WEBVTT - AJ Hawk

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<v Speaker 1>We Yes, we took a victory shot. Now when did

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<v Speaker 1>the victory shot start?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know the origin of when he started

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<v Speaker 2>doing it in Green Bay? Maybe I think really early

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<v Speaker 2>on in Green Bay. And it was always before the

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<v Speaker 2>game though before it always gives a little toast, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it does his whole thing. Do you know what the

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<v Speaker 2>toast is? Do you know what the hot toast is?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think I know what the toast is,

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<v Speaker 1>but again, I'm now I'm nervous to mess up something

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<v Speaker 1>else about Keith. It's really quick, play hard, play safe,

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<v Speaker 1>just win the fucking game.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go. And then he would slam his little

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<v Speaker 2>shot glass.

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<v Speaker 1>He would slam. He would take a shot and then

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<v Speaker 1>throw it onto the ground.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah it Hi, I'm Ajhawk and I plan on taking

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<v Speaker 2>all of Brian's money in Lake Tahoe.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi everybody, and welcome back to Off the Beat. I

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<v Speaker 1>am your host, Brian Baumgartner, and today ding the bells,

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<v Speaker 1>Ding dong, the witch is dead. We have an NFL

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<v Speaker 1>legend on the podcast. Guys, I can't tell you how

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<v Speaker 1>excited I am to talk to my old friend, the

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<v Speaker 1>one and only AJ Hawk. Now we know that the

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<v Speaker 1>best offense is a good defense. I think someone said

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<v Speaker 1>that once, and well AJ shows that more than anyone.

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<v Speaker 1>You might know him from his time on the greatest

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<v Speaker 1>NFL team of all time, the Green Bay Packers. No,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not up for debate. The all time leading tackler

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<v Speaker 1>for the Green Bay Packers. He played from two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and six to twenty fourteen. I'm talking one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>fifty eight consecutive regular season games. Yes, you heard that right,

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<v Speaker 1>and during that time he won a Super Bowl, then

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<v Speaker 1>went on to play for the Bengals, the Falcons, and

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<v Speaker 1>since retiring from the sport, well, AJ has launched quite

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<v Speaker 1>an impressive career as a sports analyst for Fox Sports

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<v Speaker 1>ESPN and most notably, as a co host on the

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<v Speaker 1>Pat McAfee Show. So if you don't know him from sports, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you likely know him from entertainment. Today, we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>dive into his career, what drew him into football, the

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<v Speaker 1>entertainment side of sports, and why he will always consider

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<v Speaker 1>himself a Packer. I'm excited. Are you excited? I'm excited? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>here we go a jay Hawk. Everyone. Bubble and squeak.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it.

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<v Speaker 3>Bubble and Squeakna.

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<v Speaker 2>Bubble and squeak.

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<v Speaker 1>I cook it every month, left over from the ninety.

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<v Speaker 3>Four what's up? Ajay?

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<v Speaker 2>What's up? Brian? How you doing?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm good?

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<v Speaker 2>How are you great? You know, same old just I've

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<v Speaker 2>been listening, man, I text you like a month or

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<v Speaker 2>two ago. I think about I've been listening to a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of the stuff you do. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I really appreciate that, you know before. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>it feels like I've been doing this now for seventeen years.

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<v Speaker 1>But before this, I was on your podcast, the Hawk

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<v Speaker 1>Cast back in the day.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct. Yeah, I don't know when that. I have to

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<v Speaker 2>go back and look exactly the month in what year

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<v Speaker 2>that was. But yeah, I started doing that while I

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<v Speaker 2>was still playing. And I I mean, you know, bruh,

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<v Speaker 2>like other people don't know. But you know, like I've

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<v Speaker 2>seen every episode of the Office five thousand times. My

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<v Speaker 2>wife and I still watch it. Hey, what's going on?

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<v Speaker 2>What do we have to watch? Not a whole lot,

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<v Speaker 2>and then we always just come back to the Office,

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, like that's that's our thing that holds

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<v Speaker 2>our family together. My young kids love it too, so

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<v Speaker 2>are huge fan? Are they watching it now?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I got a twelve ten seven and six year old,

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<v Speaker 2>and we've we've opened it up to everybody. Everyone loves it.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone dies laughing because you know, I realize your kids

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<v Speaker 2>like watching them when they're seeing when their parents laugh

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<v Speaker 2>and think something's funny. So my my six year old

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<v Speaker 2>sees us laughing at you know, Meredith, your boobs are

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<v Speaker 2>showing like that's a common thing in my in my

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<v Speaker 2>uh in my household. From my young kids, that's like

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<v Speaker 2>their favorite. They think that's the funniest thing ever.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, now do they want are they are they

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<v Speaker 1>allowed to watch every episode?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we've thought about that. We started to wonder like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>should we like be better parents and say there's some

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<v Speaker 2>episodes that should I don't. Are there any episodes that

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<v Speaker 2>you can think of that they should not be allowed

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<v Speaker 2>to watch? Because it's almost beyond them. I think some

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<v Speaker 2>of the humor, the things that may be wrong or

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<v Speaker 2>bad for kids to see.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, well, I mean the one that pops to mind.

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<v Speaker 1>And I only bring it up because it's I mean

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<v Speaker 1>it it is historic, as I as I have been taught,

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<v Speaker 1>we were the first half hour television show, right, so

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<v Speaker 1>comedy half hour television show to have that really deep

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<v Speaker 1>man's voice come on at the beginning and say the

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<v Speaker 1>following program may be unsuitable for children under thirteen. You

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<v Speaker 1>were discretion advised? Yes, can you guess the episode? It

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<v Speaker 1>was very early on?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I think especially early on in some of

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<v Speaker 2>those episodes.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, let me just say this. Dwight says the

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<v Speaker 1>word clytoris.

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<v Speaker 2>Really what is this? What?

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<v Speaker 3>It's still on?

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<v Speaker 1>The sexual sexual harassment episode and Michael brings in the

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<v Speaker 1>sex doll and at the end there's a long exchange

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<v Speaker 1>where Dwight is asking. He goes to Toby and asks

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<v Speaker 1>him a lot of questions.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, some of that stuff, I see some of it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's a bit beyond my kid's comprehension. Right now,

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<v Speaker 2>we'd have to have a little conversation if they really

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<v Speaker 2>dug deep into what was going on.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we'll stop talking about the office in a second.

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<v Speaker 1>But I have a question, because I get this all

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<v Speaker 1>the time, people who say they watch it over and

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<v Speaker 1>over and over again, they say, except for one episode,

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<v Speaker 1>Scott's Todts, Oh, scott Scott's Todds people too uncomfortable for

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<v Speaker 1>some people. Yeah, I think it hits a little too

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<v Speaker 1>close to home or something.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that might I get it. Yeah, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>do make myself. I guess it's not the first one

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<v Speaker 2>I go to because it's such an unbelievable episode. But

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<v Speaker 2>the acting and writing is so unbel like, it's so

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<v Speaker 2>crazy that you do feel horrendous. You feel just it

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<v Speaker 2>is tough. You're right, that's probably my least watched episode honestly.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Uh well, look, you and Laura, your wife. I

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<v Speaker 1>have gotten the privilege of getting to know you through

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<v Speaker 1>visiting Green Bay, and of course are exploits on the

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<v Speaker 1>golf course, the golf course, your brother as well. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to talk about your dad. I mean, I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I know oh everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's awesome. And you do, Brian, you do?

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<v Speaker 2>Like do you?

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<v Speaker 3>You?

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty much? Have You've done like pregame victory shots with

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<v Speaker 2>my family. You've done. You've been involved in every kind

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<v Speaker 2>of tradition that I think my family has.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, well, let's go back early for you growing

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<v Speaker 1>up in Cattering, Ohio. Attended Centerville High School. Now, how

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<v Speaker 1>close to Columbus is that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's about hour and fifteen minute drive.

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<v Speaker 1>Not too bad, right, And your dad, I know played

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<v Speaker 1>college football.

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, he's gonna. Oh, I'm so pumped you said that.

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<v Speaker 2>Please keep it in. He did not play college He

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<v Speaker 2>didn't play any college sports. We joke about his athletic

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<v Speaker 2>ability a lot. So really, I'm so happy you said that.

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<v Speaker 2>So he's gonna he's gonna claim that. He's gonna say

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<v Speaker 2>he did now because he heard you try to say

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<v Speaker 2>he played college football. He played baseball in high school

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<v Speaker 2>and football, but didn't play in college.

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<v Speaker 3>I so the oh did he go to Ohio University?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, went to Ohio University and was like a radio

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<v Speaker 2>TV major and had like you know, was had a

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<v Speaker 2>fake name, J. T. Hawkins and it was a radio DJ.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, here's the thing. He must be.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you always say everything you hear, you read

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<v Speaker 1>on the internet is not true. He must be trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get it out there that he played linebacker at

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<v Speaker 1>Ohio University, because how would I have known that he

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<v Speaker 1>went to Ohio University. I don't remember that conversation, but

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<v Speaker 1>that's what it. That's what it says. Very interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>We never know, you know, with everything going on right

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<v Speaker 2>like the deep fakes, I mean the Tom Cruise deep

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<v Speaker 2>fake videos, I don't know which one's Tom and which

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<v Speaker 2>one's whoever this other guy or whatever it's computer animated.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I know you guys spend a lot of time

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<v Speaker 1>analyzing those videos in your current employment. We'll talk about

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<v Speaker 1>that later. So your dad was was not an athlete,

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<v Speaker 1>so that was so how did you get into sports?

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<v Speaker 3>Was it important to your dad? Was this something that

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<v Speaker 3>was important to your family?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, so I'm the youngest. You Actually, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if you've met my oldest brother, youngest of three

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<v Speaker 2>and so.

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<v Speaker 3>I know Ryan.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, my oldest brother, Matt cohen Burke, he played

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<v Speaker 2>high school and not in college. But my middle brother, Ryan,

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<v Speaker 2>he played quarterback at Ohio. You so that might be

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<v Speaker 2>sticking in your head. That may be why you have

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of the football on your brain with

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<v Speaker 2>my family.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I have that here.

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<v Speaker 1>Keith Hawk played linebacker at Ohio University, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go with it.

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<v Speaker 2>And he did. It was too far back to check

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<v Speaker 2>the records, anyway, You're right, I think he did. Think

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<v Speaker 2>he I think he had a couple of huge games

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<v Speaker 2>that he must have blown his knee out early, you

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<v Speaker 2>know the end of his career.

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<v Speaker 1>Did So, why why was sports so important to you?

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<v Speaker 2>Growing? It's really all we did or all we knew.

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<v Speaker 2>I just I knew what my two older brothers were doing.

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<v Speaker 2>And my middle brother Ryan, he's two years older than me.

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<v Speaker 2>We just grew up playing football, baseball, and basketball. That's

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<v Speaker 2>just what we did and I never really thought of

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<v Speaker 2>anything else. We just did it because it was fun

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<v Speaker 2>and our free time, that's what our free time. We're

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<v Speaker 2>playing roller played hockey in the park and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was a good era, a good time to

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<v Speaker 2>grow up. I'm I was born nineteen. I'm thirty nine

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<v Speaker 2>years old right now, and that time growing up was awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that's all we did was go outside and play

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<v Speaker 2>different sports. But I just wanted to be like my brothers.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, both of them played and they were good,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I was always constantly just chasing them and

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to kind of have what they had.

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty much the moment where it becomes well, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>hobby or it's an activity. It's something that you do,

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<v Speaker 1>and then there's a choice that you want to pursue

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<v Speaker 1>it more for a career or beyond that sort of

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<v Speaker 1>activity phase. When did that come for you? When did

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<v Speaker 1>you realize this was something that you could do in college?

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<v Speaker 1>End or beyond man.

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<v Speaker 2>I never really thought of playing in college, like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So when I was young, the goal, the dream was

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<v Speaker 2>to play for my high school team. Go you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Friday night Ohio high school football. It was a big deal, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I say it all the time. I remember watching the

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<v Speaker 2>varsity team when I was fourth fifth grade, going to

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<v Speaker 2>games and hearing them walk into the stadium from the

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<v Speaker 2>locker room because they're wearing metal tip spikes. I wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>allowed to wear metal tip until you get in high school.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's a big deal. That was always my dream,

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<v Speaker 2>my goal and everything. And I was lucky that my

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<v Speaker 2>older two brothers played there. I got to play two

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<v Speaker 2>years with my middle brother Ryan, so my freshman year

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<v Speaker 2>he was a junior. My sophomore he's a senior, and

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<v Speaker 2>he was the starting quarterback for four straight years there,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I got to play running back with him too,

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<v Speaker 2>both of us on the offensive side of the ball

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<v Speaker 2>for a little bit. It was It was awesome. But

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't really think about college until late in my

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<v Speaker 2>high school career. Probably my brother had been he's was

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<v Speaker 2>getting recruited to play quarterback. He went to Miami of

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<v Speaker 2>Ohio first and went there as a quarterback in the

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<v Speaker 2>same class as Ben Roethlisberger, and he ended up transferring

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<v Speaker 2>to OHIOU and started for a couple of years there.

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<v Speaker 2>But he actually, yeah, he came into OU, and Ben

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<v Speaker 2>actually red shirted, and my brother came and started playing

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<v Speaker 2>right away and was like doing a little slot receiver

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<v Speaker 2>trick plays all this stuff, and then Ben came in

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<v Speaker 2>and Ben became Ben and so it all worked out,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's friends with him and everything, and we love him.

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<v Speaker 2>But I was watching him getting recruited. I was going

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<v Speaker 2>on some of those recruiting trips with him around on

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<v Speaker 2>the MAC and schools like Northwestern Indiana, places like that.

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<v Speaker 2>And then going into my senior year in high school,

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<v Speaker 2>I went to Ohio State's camp and they hadn't offered

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<v Speaker 2>me a scholarship yet, and a lot of guys had

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<v Speaker 2>been offered. I guess that we're going to be coming

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<v Speaker 2>in and I did what I guess. I did enough

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<v Speaker 2>at that camp to get a scholarship ball for from

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<v Speaker 2>Jim Tressel, and I committed right away and it was

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<v Speaker 2>never a question of me going anywhere else. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>then I was very lucky to go to o Higo

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<v Speaker 2>State at a great time as well.

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<v Speaker 1>You were a big Ohio State fan as a kid

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<v Speaker 1>growing up, right, Yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Was, but compared to like the rest of not the rest,

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<v Speaker 2>but of a lot of people in Ohio, they probably

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<v Speaker 2>technically couldn't say I was like a die hard fan,

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<v Speaker 2>like I'd loved Ohio State. I looked at it like

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<v Speaker 2>it was a fantasy world. It was never real to me,

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<v Speaker 2>like you could go there and play there. I didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't go to a game until I was like

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<v Speaker 2>a sophomore in high school being recruited. That's the first

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<v Speaker 2>time I went to a high of state game, just

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<v Speaker 2>because I feel like on weekends we had our own games,

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<v Speaker 2>our own stuff happening. But yeah, I knew if I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to play in college and I had a chance

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<v Speaker 2>there was even a sliver of hope to play at

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<v Speaker 2>Ohio State, I was gonna do whatever it took to

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<v Speaker 2>get there. So yeah, I knew I wasn't gonna go

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<v Speaker 2>anywhere else.

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<v Speaker 1>When you signed to go to Ohio State, was it

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<v Speaker 1>as a linebacker?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it was as a linebacker, But then there's four

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<v Speaker 2>linebackers come in just in my class alone, and one

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<v Speaker 2>of them was the USA Toda player of the Year,

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<v Speaker 2>like I was kind of an afterthought kind of, I think,

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<v Speaker 2>And they said linebacker, and then people claim there's a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of coaches that thought it meant when it put

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<v Speaker 2>me at fullback too.

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<v Speaker 1>So were you a late bloomer? And I'm not even

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<v Speaker 1>saying that as a joke, Like.

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<v Speaker 2>N No, I wasn't. I don't think I was. No,

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't a late bloomer. I actually so. I committed

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<v Speaker 2>to Ohio State going into my senior year of high

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<v Speaker 2>school football. My first game my senior year, I was

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<v Speaker 2>the punter. Ran was running a fake punt, playing in

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<v Speaker 2>my foot in the ground, and a dude just took

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<v Speaker 2>his helmet and ran it right through my knee and

0:13:50.480 --> 0:13:52.480
<v Speaker 2>popped my knee straight back, and I tore my PCL

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<v Speaker 2>and then a bunch of cartilage. So I got it

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<v Speaker 2>scoped and just cleaned the cartridge out, rehab my PCL

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<v Speaker 2>and came back and played the last like three or

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<v Speaker 2>four games my high school my senior year. Lucky, I

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<v Speaker 2>was already committed and they didn't pull my scholarship, so

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<v Speaker 2>that was a big I thought for sure I was done.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, Oh, there's no way they're gonna they're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna give my scholarship to someone else. But luckily they

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<v Speaker 2>never even waiver.

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<v Speaker 1>So even though you go to Ohio State, you end up,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, winning a national championship with Ohio State.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you at that time think this that you were

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<v Speaker 1>gonna pursue it beyond college or was it just a

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<v Speaker 1>step for you?

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<v Speaker 2>It was definitely a dream, Yeah, that'd be cool to

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<v Speaker 2>play in the NFL someday. It didn't really become a

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<v Speaker 2>reality until later way down the road. I think in

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<v Speaker 2>college though.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, guys, he ends up winning the Lombardi Award. You're

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<v Speaker 1>an All American twice. I mean, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>you're being modest right now or if if this is

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<v Speaker 1>really where your mindset was. I'm trying to find that

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<v Speaker 1>moment for you, where for you it clicked or was

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<v Speaker 1>it just gradual. Was it just one play at a time,

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<v Speaker 1>one year at a time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it was gradual. I think you just

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<v Speaker 2>how I've always tried to just be I'm pretty consistent,

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<v Speaker 2>which is boring. Like I have no problem eating the

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<v Speaker 2>very similar foods day after day, the same thing. I

0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:19.480
<v Speaker 2>don't need a bunch of variety. I do I'm kind

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<v Speaker 2>of a creature of habit I think, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not definitely not the biggest guy or the fastest dude,

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<v Speaker 2>but I know like I'm not gonna quit and I'll

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<v Speaker 2>be there. And luckily too. When I was young, especially

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<v Speaker 2>in college, I didn't think about anything. Now that I'm older,

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<v Speaker 2>I think back on different things, I was like, Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>I was truly in the moment. I didn't I legit

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<v Speaker 2>was not really thinking very far ahead at all, like

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<v Speaker 2>just hey, what do we gotta do today? And then

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<v Speaker 2>let's just keep it moving. And I had a great

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<v Speaker 2>time too. I loved it. Made so many great friends

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<v Speaker 2>in college that still live around me now and now

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<v Speaker 2>our kids play together.

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<v Speaker 1>What a great lesson that is, though. I mean that

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<v Speaker 1>because that's it's very surprising with all of the people

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<v Speaker 1>that I talk to. For most people, they begin to

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<v Speaker 1>look ahead, and it sounds to me like for you,

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<v Speaker 1>you were, Yeah, you were just truly.

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<v Speaker 2>Naive, very naive. I think I didn't think of it.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean in a good way, though. I'm very glad

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<v Speaker 2>I was, because I didn't realize that until I came

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<v Speaker 2>back to a game when I was three or four

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<v Speaker 2>years into the league. I came back during a bye

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<v Speaker 2>week and I was watching it. It was a night

0:16:22.880 --> 0:16:25.840
<v Speaker 2>game in Ohio State, and I remember tapping my wife

0:16:25.840 --> 0:16:27.840
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, is this what it looks like? Like?

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<v Speaker 2>What I was like, is this what it looks like?

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<v Speaker 2>She's like, yeah, this is football. These are games. And

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<v Speaker 2>I was so scared for these dudes, Like I was

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<v Speaker 2>so nervous for him. I was like, in my head,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking, do these guys know like every single play,

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<v Speaker 2>the whole game can hinge on what mistake you make

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<v Speaker 2>or a great play you make, Like there's so much

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<v Speaker 2>on the line here. I felt like watching from the stands.

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<v Speaker 2>I never really thought about that before until I was

0:16:49.800 --> 0:16:52.400
<v Speaker 2>there in that moment, and then it made me realize, geez,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad that I never thought about any of that

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<v Speaker 2>when I was playing. We were honestly just just goofballs,

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<v Speaker 2>having fun and join ourselves.

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<v Speaker 1>That's so interesting. I mean, what, there's one hundred thousand

0:17:03.920 --> 0:17:07.000
<v Speaker 1>people there, and clearly, when you're at home, you you

0:17:07.119 --> 0:17:12.919
<v Speaker 1>must feel, like feel the sound that that many people creates.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's so interesting for you that different perspective because

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<v Speaker 1>you're in the moment, you're down there and you may

0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:22.720
<v Speaker 1>hear or acknowledge that there are people that are watching.

0:17:23.640 --> 0:17:27.040
<v Speaker 1>But like you said, not being a fixture at Ohio

0:17:27.160 --> 0:17:30.679
<v Speaker 1>State games before you went right, like, not really being

0:17:30.760 --> 0:17:34.800
<v Speaker 1>there on that other side probably takes some pressure off

0:17:35.280 --> 0:17:36.520
<v Speaker 1>now that I'm paid about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think in the moment, don't you think some of

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<v Speaker 2>the best golfers are dumb as a rock because they

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<v Speaker 2>don't ever think about their bad shot. They don't They're

0:17:43.200 --> 0:17:46.520
<v Speaker 2>not walking up to their ball on the eighteenth fairway knowing, hey,

0:17:46.560 --> 0:17:48.040
<v Speaker 2>if I get up and down from here, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>win whatever, whatever gigantic tournament, a major. They're legit. Just

0:17:52.680 --> 0:17:54.880
<v Speaker 2>they're walking, well, look at that tree, Oh, look at

0:17:54.880 --> 0:17:57.240
<v Speaker 2>that that's cool. And then they both knock it to

0:17:57.280 --> 0:17:59.199
<v Speaker 2>two feet and tap it in and call it a day. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>if you could have that brain in golf especially, you

0:18:02.920 --> 0:18:04.159
<v Speaker 2>can win a lot of tournaments.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you and I know for sure there are great

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<v Speaker 1>golfers who are not very smart.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that is lots of Yeah, it pays. It pays

0:18:12.000 --> 0:18:14.440
<v Speaker 2>to not be very smart out there. In certain ways,

0:18:14.440 --> 0:18:17.080
<v Speaker 2>they are very maybe whatever their intelligence is, other ways

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<v Speaker 2>that they helped turn it on.

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<v Speaker 1>When you're at Ohio State, you are focused on criminology.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I wanted to be a cop. You wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>be a cop. Yeah, that was that was the plan. Yeah,

0:18:30.440 --> 0:18:33.160
<v Speaker 2>so crime I took. I mean it's basically, yeah, criminology,

0:18:33.240 --> 0:18:36.199
<v Speaker 2>sociology major. Took a lot of sociology classes. Didn't have

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of math to take. That was definitely part

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<v Speaker 2>of it. Numbers just don't work. My brain does not

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<v Speaker 2>compute numbers. And I've known that for a long time. Yeah,

0:18:43.200 --> 0:18:43.520
<v Speaker 2>me too.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so you uh so you start becoming named in

0:18:48.560 --> 0:18:51.439
<v Speaker 1>All American in the country, and you win the Lombardi Award,

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<v Speaker 1>and so at some point you start turning your attention

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<v Speaker 1>towards the draft, right and like playing football beyond right?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, definitely, uh yeah. Going into my senior year, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess I didn't. I luckily didn't think about it

0:19:05.560 --> 0:19:07.159
<v Speaker 2>too much, but I knew, yeah, hopefully if I go

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<v Speaker 2>out here and play well, I could be a first

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<v Speaker 2>round pick. Hopefully that was the thought. And we won,

0:19:11.080 --> 0:19:13.359
<v Speaker 2>and we want to win a national championship. I got

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<v Speaker 2>there my freshman year and rode the coattails of guys

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<v Speaker 2>and got to start one game and play all the

0:19:18.800 --> 0:19:22.560
<v Speaker 2>special teams and everything, and play in spots and other games.

0:19:22.560 --> 0:19:25.560
<v Speaker 2>But we had an unbelievable group of like of older

0:19:25.600 --> 0:19:26.960
<v Speaker 2>guys that I got to learn from. But yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to go do it as a senior, and we

0:19:28.680 --> 0:19:30.520
<v Speaker 2>weren't able to do that. My senior year we lost

0:19:30.560 --> 0:19:33.120
<v Speaker 2>two games and weren't able to win the national championship.

0:19:33.480 --> 0:19:36.239
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, going in, I knew, hopefully this is this

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<v Speaker 2>is the plan to play after this. I knew I

0:19:38.760 --> 0:19:40.920
<v Speaker 2>definitely wanted to. I had the desire. And then after

0:19:40.920 --> 0:19:44.440
<v Speaker 2>the season, I was stayed in school and worked out

0:19:44.440 --> 0:19:47.520
<v Speaker 2>there and then would fly out and have you go

0:19:47.520 --> 0:19:49.399
<v Speaker 2>go to the combine and then fly out and have

0:19:49.520 --> 0:19:52.200
<v Speaker 2>visits the month like leading up to the draft and

0:19:52.280 --> 0:19:54.160
<v Speaker 2>other teams and doing all I was still in school

0:19:54.160 --> 0:19:56.000
<v Speaker 2>when I was doing all of that, and then got

0:19:56.119 --> 0:19:57.520
<v Speaker 2>drafted by the Packers.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, drafted fifth by the Green Bay Packers. You had

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<v Speaker 1>another line of first round defensive picks by the Green.

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<v Speaker 2>Bay by the Green Bay Packers, I do have Why

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<v Speaker 2>are you a Packers fan, Briy, I I don't know if.

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<v Speaker 1>First off, let me say this, I want to say

0:20:16.600 --> 0:20:18.480
<v Speaker 1>that it was a mistake, but it wasn't. I woke

0:20:18.560 --> 0:20:23.440
<v Speaker 1>up today and I put on the University of Georgia shirt.

0:20:23.520 --> 0:20:26.360
<v Speaker 2>I respect for that squad. They're great, Kirby Smart, They're

0:20:26.359 --> 0:20:28.720
<v Speaker 2>a great team. High of State played them tough, played

0:20:28.760 --> 0:20:31.679
<v Speaker 2>them tough in the playoffs. Georgia, Man, you guys got

0:20:31.720 --> 0:20:32.640
<v Speaker 2>a good thing going down there.

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<v Speaker 1>Brian, Do you wish you had gone to Georgia instead

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<v Speaker 1>of Ohio State? No, because you'd be a better You'd

0:20:38.920 --> 0:20:43.200
<v Speaker 1>be a more successful person had you done that.

0:20:43.560 --> 0:20:44.760
<v Speaker 2>You didn't even go to Georgia.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I know, but I didn't play football. Mu right, Hey,

0:20:49.600 --> 0:20:53.119
<v Speaker 1>if that's right. If I had played football, yep, I

0:20:53.119 --> 0:20:54.160
<v Speaker 1>would have gone to Georgia.

0:20:54.320 --> 0:20:56.159
<v Speaker 2>Would you? Did you play football at all?

0:20:56.160 --> 0:20:56.600
<v Speaker 3>Growing up?

0:20:57.600 --> 0:20:58.200
<v Speaker 2>Just a little?

0:20:58.400 --> 0:21:00.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I you know, I had my bad leg

0:21:00.880 --> 0:21:05.359
<v Speaker 1>situation pretty early before before I really had the opportunity

0:21:05.400 --> 0:21:08.440
<v Speaker 1>to get into it. But if I had, I would

0:21:08.440 --> 0:21:10.760
<v Speaker 1>have gone to Georgia. That's That's really all I have

0:21:10.800 --> 0:21:12.800
<v Speaker 1>to say about that. Oh why am I a Packer?

0:21:12.840 --> 0:21:14.560
<v Speaker 1>You know why I'm a Packers fan because of you.

0:21:15.320 --> 0:21:17.679
<v Speaker 2>Not me. It came on for me.

0:21:18.119 --> 0:21:35.439
<v Speaker 4>But okay.

0:21:36.880 --> 0:21:39.760
<v Speaker 1>AJ gets drafted fifth by the Packers in two thousand

0:21:39.800 --> 0:21:42.960
<v Speaker 1>and six and in twenty ten or following the twenty

0:21:43.040 --> 0:21:47.040
<v Speaker 1>ten season, wins the Super Bowl in Dallas, Texas. I

0:21:47.119 --> 0:21:49.120
<v Speaker 1>call that the Ice Bowl because there was so much

0:21:49.160 --> 0:21:52.760
<v Speaker 1>ice out you guys didn't have to deal with. We

0:21:52.800 --> 0:21:56.280
<v Speaker 1>couldn't hardly get to the stadium, But I was there.

0:21:57.600 --> 0:22:01.240
<v Speaker 1>I saw you play the all time leading tackler for

0:22:01.320 --> 0:22:05.440
<v Speaker 1>the green Bay Packers nine seasons twenty six to fourteen.

0:22:05.520 --> 0:22:08.679
<v Speaker 1>If my math is right, eight years, nine seasons with

0:22:08.800 --> 0:22:11.680
<v Speaker 1>the Packers. Do you consider yourself a Packer?

0:22:12.080 --> 0:22:15.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Absolutely, I technically got played eleven years. I played

0:22:15.400 --> 0:22:17.640
<v Speaker 2>one year with Cincinnati after my nine in green Bay,

0:22:17.680 --> 0:22:19.760
<v Speaker 2>and then I got a season with Atlanta the year

0:22:19.800 --> 0:22:21.520
<v Speaker 2>they went to the Super Bowl, which had a great

0:22:21.560 --> 0:22:23.200
<v Speaker 2>experience there. By the way, I was only there a month.

0:22:23.280 --> 0:22:25.399
<v Speaker 2>Awesome experience. Loved all the coaches. Still talk to a

0:22:25.480 --> 0:22:28.639
<v Speaker 2>lot of them, but yeah, always really always a Packer.

0:22:28.680 --> 0:22:32.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's interesting. Your experience in Atlanta was great, and

0:22:32.880 --> 0:22:34.000
<v Speaker 1>you still communicate with them.

0:22:34.080 --> 0:22:36.240
<v Speaker 2>Dan Quinn was the head coach. I love that guy.

0:22:36.600 --> 0:22:40.520
<v Speaker 2>Jeff Olbrick is now the Jets defensive coordinator where our

0:22:40.560 --> 0:22:42.960
<v Speaker 2>buddy Aaron Rodgers is at, and Aaron loves Jeff. I

0:22:43.000 --> 0:22:46.159
<v Speaker 2>knew Olbrick would enjoy having him there. He was the

0:22:46.160 --> 0:22:48.399
<v Speaker 2>linebacker coach at the time in Atlanta, and I was

0:22:48.400 --> 0:22:52.679
<v Speaker 2>there four games and they were awesome. I learned so

0:22:52.800 --> 0:22:54.720
<v Speaker 2>much and just really maybe it was just because I

0:22:54.720 --> 0:22:56.240
<v Speaker 2>was old and I wasn't even playing it on playing

0:22:56.280 --> 0:22:59.000
<v Speaker 2>I was already doing working as like an analyst on

0:22:59.160 --> 0:23:02.119
<v Speaker 2>FS one, doing some games by then. But they had

0:23:02.119 --> 0:23:04.800
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of guys go down one week and tried

0:23:04.840 --> 0:23:07.199
<v Speaker 2>to bring me in there, and maybe just because I

0:23:07.240 --> 0:23:09.120
<v Speaker 2>was older and I knew, I was like, oh, this

0:23:09.160 --> 0:23:12.440
<v Speaker 2>is like a really cool experience, and so I took

0:23:12.440 --> 0:23:14.440
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of notes, tried to see how they ran things.

0:23:14.480 --> 0:23:16.439
<v Speaker 2>It was just a cool like it was almost like

0:23:16.520 --> 0:23:18.399
<v Speaker 2>watching like different ways, like hey, there's a lot of

0:23:18.400 --> 0:23:21.040
<v Speaker 2>different ways where you can lead and you can run

0:23:21.240 --> 0:23:24.080
<v Speaker 2>an organization or a team or how you interact, and

0:23:24.080 --> 0:23:25.280
<v Speaker 2>it was just really cool. They had a lot of

0:23:25.280 --> 0:23:27.600
<v Speaker 2>good people there. Kyle Shanahan was the offensive coordinator. I mean,

0:23:27.600 --> 0:23:29.640
<v Speaker 2>it was littered with stars everywhere.

0:23:30.320 --> 0:23:33.680
<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about the Packers for a little bit.

0:23:34.359 --> 0:23:37.359
<v Speaker 1>Your greatest memory of being in Green Bay.

0:23:38.720 --> 0:23:42.879
<v Speaker 2>I mean Super Bowl is tough to top that, it

0:23:43.000 --> 0:23:47.479
<v Speaker 2>really is. But if being like weirdly not, I don't know,

0:23:48.320 --> 0:23:52.399
<v Speaker 2>I'm not some I'm not into mystical crazy like getting

0:23:52.440 --> 0:23:55.840
<v Speaker 2>real deep talk or anything, but honestly, the coolest thing

0:23:55.840 --> 0:23:57.840
<v Speaker 2>about Green Bay and my wife and I this is

0:23:57.840 --> 0:24:00.000
<v Speaker 2>the thing we missa just the people, like the guys

0:24:00.359 --> 0:24:03.359
<v Speaker 2>and their wives and girlfriends and their kids. Like we

0:24:03.440 --> 0:24:05.480
<v Speaker 2>had a really special thing there for a long time.

0:24:05.520 --> 0:24:07.000
<v Speaker 2>We feel like we should have won more super Bowl

0:24:07.040 --> 0:24:10.920
<v Speaker 2>It's no question, but especially that Super Bowl year. Man,

0:24:10.960 --> 0:24:13.440
<v Speaker 2>our team was so close and we didn't We didn't

0:24:13.480 --> 0:24:15.840
<v Speaker 2>even know it at the time, but yeah, just looking back,

0:24:16.400 --> 0:24:18.919
<v Speaker 2>just really special people that we still communicate with. My

0:24:18.960 --> 0:24:22.560
<v Speaker 2>wife still takes trips with Green Bay girls every single

0:24:22.640 --> 0:24:24.480
<v Speaker 2>year and we try to meet up as much as

0:24:24.480 --> 0:24:26.280
<v Speaker 2>we can, so I think the order we get, the

0:24:26.280 --> 0:24:28.320
<v Speaker 2>more we realize how special it was and kind of

0:24:28.320 --> 0:24:29.679
<v Speaker 2>grow to appreciate that stuff.

0:24:29.920 --> 0:24:32.520
<v Speaker 1>I've said many times, if you don't have a team,

0:24:32.680 --> 0:24:34.720
<v Speaker 1>if you don't have a reason to hate Green Bay,

0:24:35.240 --> 0:24:40.280
<v Speaker 1>if you go to Green Bay, it's hard. It's really

0:24:40.400 --> 0:24:44.680
<v Speaker 1>hard not to root for them, because the experience really

0:24:45.000 --> 0:24:50.119
<v Speaker 1>is singular in all of sports. I'm gonna tell I'm

0:24:50.160 --> 0:24:53.400
<v Speaker 1>gonna give one. There's many examples, but one, because I'm

0:24:53.440 --> 0:24:56.800
<v Speaker 1>talking to you. I was in Green Bay for a game,

0:24:57.160 --> 0:25:01.000
<v Speaker 1>your dad, your brother, who I knew well from our

0:25:01.040 --> 0:25:05.280
<v Speaker 1>golfing days, and your dad was there. And now I

0:25:05.320 --> 0:25:07.119
<v Speaker 1>don't want to I don't want to screw something else

0:25:07.240 --> 0:25:10.840
<v Speaker 1>up about your dad. But your dad bought a house, right,

0:25:11.000 --> 0:25:16.159
<v Speaker 1>Your family bought one of the houses directly adjacent to

0:25:16.920 --> 0:25:21.320
<v Speaker 1>lambeau Field, essentially to stay in because they wanted to

0:25:21.320 --> 0:25:22.280
<v Speaker 1>come out and see games.

0:25:22.359 --> 0:25:25.760
<v Speaker 2>Right, yep. Yeah, when I got drafted, I was freshly new.

0:25:25.760 --> 0:25:29.000
<v Speaker 2>Hewed got married right before camp and I didn't even

0:25:29.080 --> 0:25:31.000
<v Speaker 2>know it, but yeah, he got the house and he said, we, well,

0:25:31.119 --> 0:25:34.000
<v Speaker 2>obviously I want to come to every game and I

0:25:34.000 --> 0:25:35.399
<v Speaker 2>want to bring friends, and I'm not going to do

0:25:35.440 --> 0:25:37.760
<v Speaker 2>that too. You're a new Hewed, Like, I'm not going

0:25:37.800 --> 0:25:40.719
<v Speaker 2>to stay with you guys. And obviously, yeah, that was like,

0:25:40.760 --> 0:25:42.760
<v Speaker 2>I guess that was very nice of him, But it

0:25:42.800 --> 0:25:45.400
<v Speaker 2>was like a he and my mom were in college again.

0:25:45.440 --> 0:25:48.399
<v Speaker 2>They'd have different couples come up every weekend and have party,

0:25:48.480 --> 0:25:50.359
<v Speaker 2>like they had the greatest weekends for home games. It was.

0:25:50.400 --> 0:25:51.240
<v Speaker 2>It was a great idea.

0:25:51.720 --> 0:25:55.320
<v Speaker 1>So if you've never been, the houses are literally right

0:25:55.359 --> 0:25:59.320
<v Speaker 1>there next to the fairly small parking lot, and before

0:25:59.359 --> 0:26:02.600
<v Speaker 1>the game, you tailgate house to house, and really what

0:26:02.640 --> 0:26:07.240
<v Speaker 1>it is is garage to garage. There was one house

0:26:07.320 --> 0:26:10.480
<v Speaker 1>that I always go to that had literally had put

0:26:10.560 --> 0:26:13.760
<v Speaker 1>in a urinal like bathroom with a urinal in the

0:26:14.000 --> 0:26:18.639
<v Speaker 1>in the garage there and TVs everywhere. Your Dad's was

0:26:18.720 --> 0:26:22.320
<v Speaker 1>not as glamorous. I think when I was there, it

0:26:22.480 --> 0:26:26.720
<v Speaker 1>was minus eight degrees and we were on folding chairs

0:26:27.000 --> 0:26:31.040
<v Speaker 1>in the garage, in the garage that was not heated

0:26:31.280 --> 0:26:35.640
<v Speaker 1>in any way. But we yes, we took a victory shot. Now,

0:26:35.680 --> 0:26:37.719
<v Speaker 1>when did the victory shot start?

0:26:38.440 --> 0:26:41.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't even know the origin of when he started

0:26:41.320 --> 0:26:43.560
<v Speaker 2>doing it in Green Bay? Maybe I think really early

0:26:43.600 --> 0:26:47.520
<v Speaker 2>on in Green Bay. And it was always before the

0:26:47.520 --> 0:26:49.639
<v Speaker 2>game though before it always gives a little toast and

0:26:49.840 --> 0:26:51.480
<v Speaker 2>it does his whole thing. Do you know what the

0:26:51.520 --> 0:26:53.520
<v Speaker 2>toast is? Do you know what the hot toast is?

0:26:53.960 --> 0:26:55.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think I know what the toast is,

0:26:55.760 --> 0:26:58.359
<v Speaker 1>But again I'm now I'm nervous to mess up something

0:26:58.359 --> 0:27:04.120
<v Speaker 1>else about Keith. It's really quick, play hard, play safe,

0:27:05.040 --> 0:27:06.320
<v Speaker 1>just win the fucking game.

0:27:06.680 --> 0:27:08.320
<v Speaker 2>There you go. And then he would slam his little

0:27:08.320 --> 0:27:08.800
<v Speaker 2>shot glass.

0:27:08.880 --> 0:27:11.520
<v Speaker 1>He would slam. He would take a shot and then

0:27:11.640 --> 0:27:13.000
<v Speaker 1>throw it onto the ground.

0:27:13.119 --> 0:27:14.919
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was it. Yeah. I don't know how. I

0:27:14.920 --> 0:27:17.880
<v Speaker 2>think it started early on in Green Bay, I guess yeah.

0:27:18.720 --> 0:27:22.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what an incredible thing for you to have your

0:27:22.480 --> 0:27:26.480
<v Speaker 1>family be able to be a part of that those

0:27:27.359 --> 0:27:32.080
<v Speaker 1>nine years in Green Bay and have that experience. Clearly

0:27:32.160 --> 0:27:34.399
<v Speaker 1>they they love it. Do they still have the house?

0:27:35.200 --> 0:27:38.719
<v Speaker 2>No, they sold it shortly after my time was up.

0:27:38.720 --> 0:27:41.000
<v Speaker 2>They didn't have any trouble selling that thing. Yeah. It

0:27:41.000 --> 0:27:44.360
<v Speaker 2>was only like two, like probably three streets over from Lambeau.

0:27:44.480 --> 0:27:46.320
<v Speaker 2>You could, I'm sure you could hit your driver and

0:27:46.400 --> 0:27:48.600
<v Speaker 2>hit Lambeau from their front yard if you could move

0:27:48.640 --> 0:27:53.240
<v Speaker 2>some trees. Yeah, no, for sure. How did you get

0:27:53.240 --> 0:27:55.199
<v Speaker 2>on the when you when you came over to the

0:27:55.240 --> 0:27:59.800
<v Speaker 2>house and did the pregame victory shots. Did you coordinate

0:27:59.840 --> 0:28:01.879
<v Speaker 2>that with Ryan, my brother? I think that through I

0:28:01.960 --> 0:28:03.760
<v Speaker 2>think that was through your brother. Yeah. I was gonna say,

0:28:03.760 --> 0:28:06.680
<v Speaker 2>because all of a sudden, I'm I remember I was

0:28:06.720 --> 0:28:08.159
<v Speaker 2>in the locker room, I think, and they sent me

0:28:08.160 --> 0:28:09.760
<v Speaker 2>a picture or sent me a video of you guys

0:28:09.840 --> 0:28:11.919
<v Speaker 2>doing the shot. And what's Brian doing. I didn't even

0:28:11.960 --> 0:28:15.879
<v Speaker 2>know you were going. Yeah. No, so uh.

0:28:15.960 --> 0:28:20.199
<v Speaker 1>For those of you who don't know, AJ is a

0:28:20.400 --> 0:28:25.679
<v Speaker 1>fixture at the American Century championships, which we've talked a

0:28:25.720 --> 0:28:30.240
<v Speaker 1>lot about on this podcast. In beautiful Lake Tahoe. We're

0:28:30.280 --> 0:28:33.679
<v Speaker 1>both gonna be there here in a couple of weeks,

0:28:34.320 --> 0:28:36.520
<v Speaker 1>and so we had gotten to know each other and

0:28:37.000 --> 0:28:41.960
<v Speaker 1>AJ's brother Ryan is AJ's caddy. I have a regular

0:28:42.040 --> 0:28:45.720
<v Speaker 1>caddy and Aaron had the same caddy and we would

0:28:45.760 --> 0:28:48.880
<v Speaker 1>have a caddy race on the seventeenth hole there and

0:28:49.960 --> 0:28:54.080
<v Speaker 1>I watched it fairly recently. Again it is still uh,

0:28:55.000 --> 0:28:55.800
<v Speaker 1>it's still entertaining.

0:28:55.840 --> 0:28:58.960
<v Speaker 2>There's like sixty yards of sand that they run through too.

0:28:59.040 --> 0:29:00.800
<v Speaker 2>That's the biggest thing. I think that's when their legs

0:29:00.800 --> 0:29:03.400
<v Speaker 2>start to burn trying to carry the bag and it

0:29:03.440 --> 0:29:05.960
<v Speaker 2>gets competitive, man, I know, especially year one that was

0:29:06.040 --> 0:29:06.720
<v Speaker 2>very competitive.

0:29:07.040 --> 0:29:09.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was a lot of fun. So yeah, So

0:29:09.280 --> 0:29:12.760
<v Speaker 1>I've gotten to know AJ's family and his wife there

0:29:12.840 --> 0:29:15.280
<v Speaker 1>as well. Excited to go back.

0:29:15.760 --> 0:29:19.320
<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, you're kidding me. Like it's it's amazing.

0:29:19.360 --> 0:29:21.320
<v Speaker 2>It makes me I don't play much like a whole

0:29:21.360 --> 0:29:24.560
<v Speaker 2>lot of golf, but because of Tahoe, it makes me

0:29:24.680 --> 0:29:27.080
<v Speaker 2>love go like I want I want to play, just

0:29:27.120 --> 0:29:29.400
<v Speaker 2>to get out there and try to not be horrendously

0:29:29.440 --> 0:29:32.400
<v Speaker 2>bad out there. So that's everything is geared towards Tahoe for.

0:29:32.400 --> 0:29:36.040
<v Speaker 1>Me me too. Uh do I owe you money? I

0:29:36.080 --> 0:29:38.600
<v Speaker 1>do not believe so well, Okay, I paid you. Okay,

0:29:38.880 --> 0:29:40.760
<v Speaker 1>AJ got me last year for sure.

0:29:41.320 --> 0:29:43.680
<v Speaker 2>I kept the ball in play more than I ever had. Man,

0:29:43.720 --> 0:29:45.520
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how I could. I'd have to punch

0:29:45.560 --> 0:29:49.000
<v Speaker 2>out like six hundred times each round this passion. I

0:29:49.000 --> 0:29:50.960
<v Speaker 2>still didn't play great, but I still I just put

0:29:50.960 --> 0:29:52.160
<v Speaker 2>the ball in play a little bit.

0:29:52.920 --> 0:29:55.880
<v Speaker 1>I want you to tell the story to everybody about

0:29:55.920 --> 0:30:00.320
<v Speaker 1>how it started. Aj AJ became a fixed You're in

0:30:00.360 --> 0:30:05.800
<v Speaker 1>tahole because there's a there are two very populated holes

0:30:06.280 --> 0:30:09.960
<v Speaker 1>in Lake Tahoe, a whole seven and whole seventeen. And

0:30:10.120 --> 0:30:18.160
<v Speaker 1>AJ started tackling a fan from the stands. Talk about

0:30:18.840 --> 0:30:21.880
<v Speaker 1>how that started in the first year, because all I

0:30:21.920 --> 0:30:23.960
<v Speaker 1>remember is you thinking you were going you.

0:30:23.960 --> 0:30:27.000
<v Speaker 2>Had killed the guy that was year two. I thought

0:30:27.040 --> 0:30:29.520
<v Speaker 2>he died. Year one was a great shot. It was

0:30:29.640 --> 0:30:32.280
<v Speaker 2>very clean shot. I could get the year too. Yeah.

0:30:32.360 --> 0:30:34.920
<v Speaker 2>So basically we're to seventh hole, like you said, we're

0:30:34.920 --> 0:30:37.480
<v Speaker 2>walking up to the tea box and my brother Ryan

0:30:37.560 --> 0:30:39.320
<v Speaker 2>is caddied for me every single year out there. And

0:30:39.360 --> 0:30:42.440
<v Speaker 2>that's how unbelievable that tournament in Lake Tahoe is that

0:30:42.480 --> 0:30:45.080
<v Speaker 2>he's like, someone's gonna have to kill me to get

0:30:45.080 --> 0:30:46.840
<v Speaker 2>me to not caddy for it. He just just he

0:30:46.880 --> 0:30:48.440
<v Speaker 2>didn't eve get hit any shots, but he just wants

0:30:48.480 --> 0:30:50.600
<v Speaker 2>to go. That's how cool the whole tournament is. But

0:30:50.920 --> 0:30:53.880
<v Speaker 2>we walk up to the tea box and there's a

0:30:53.880 --> 0:30:58.040
<v Speaker 2>group of guys, maybe ten dudes, bit rowdy, boozing, having

0:30:58.080 --> 0:31:00.640
<v Speaker 2>a great time, and oh, my brother, that Ryan looks

0:31:00.640 --> 0:31:02.400
<v Speaker 2>at me. He's like, hey man, this guy wants He

0:31:02.480 --> 0:31:04.360
<v Speaker 2>asked if you tackle him. And I looked at the

0:31:04.440 --> 0:31:06.840
<v Speaker 2>dude and he's a big guys like, all right, okay,

0:31:07.000 --> 0:31:10.600
<v Speaker 2>I guess yeah, why not? And I went, I like

0:31:10.640 --> 0:31:13.040
<v Speaker 2>put my shoulder directly into his ribs, like I hear

0:31:13.080 --> 0:31:14.760
<v Speaker 2>the breast go out. Oh like I could hear. It

0:31:15.040 --> 0:31:18.120
<v Speaker 2>was just the time. Whatever happened, it timed up where

0:31:18.760 --> 0:31:20.880
<v Speaker 2>everything just hit the right moment and it was a

0:31:20.880 --> 0:31:22.960
<v Speaker 2>good shot. It looked good. I didn't I thought I

0:31:22.960 --> 0:31:24.840
<v Speaker 2>was gonna rip my pants. I didn't rip my pants.

0:31:24.880 --> 0:31:27.080
<v Speaker 2>I didn't fall down. He went down. Then he gets

0:31:27.160 --> 0:31:29.680
<v Speaker 2>up and I hug him and everything's great, and then

0:31:29.720 --> 0:31:31.960
<v Speaker 2>I realized instant, I'm like, oh my god, like am

0:31:32.000 --> 0:31:33.440
<v Speaker 2>I gonna get kicked out of the tournament. I was like,

0:31:33.480 --> 0:31:35.080
<v Speaker 2>these guys, not, are they gonna let me even play

0:31:35.160 --> 0:31:38.040
<v Speaker 2>like that sucks? They might be pissed. And then the

0:31:38.080 --> 0:31:40.960
<v Speaker 2>next hole, I'm walking and I see a couple of

0:31:40.960 --> 0:31:43.560
<v Speaker 2>the you know, the big the big time people with

0:31:43.520 --> 0:31:46.560
<v Speaker 2>the NBC American Century everybody, and I was like, hey, man,

0:31:46.600 --> 0:31:48.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry the guy asked me to do it. I

0:31:48.680 --> 0:31:52.040
<v Speaker 2>wasn't whatever, and they instantly said, no, were you kidding me?

0:31:52.080 --> 0:31:53.560
<v Speaker 2>That was great it Look we got it on video.

0:31:53.960 --> 0:31:57.280
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna run it tonight on NBC or NBC whatever.

0:31:57.800 --> 0:31:59.800
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, oh, thank goodness. And then I tackled

0:31:59.840 --> 0:32:02.480
<v Speaker 2>him for man, four or five years in a row.

0:32:02.520 --> 0:32:05.160
<v Speaker 2>And now it's funny, we've kind of like we started

0:32:05.200 --> 0:32:07.200
<v Speaker 2>we arm wrestled one year after that, like we're all

0:32:07.200 --> 0:32:09.640
<v Speaker 2>growing up, we're all getting old, I guess because now

0:32:09.760 --> 0:32:12.320
<v Speaker 2>their group has grown as well, like they've all there's

0:32:12.320 --> 0:32:14.560
<v Speaker 2>more and more people every year with their group and

0:32:14.760 --> 0:32:17.640
<v Speaker 2>the company they have, and then now it's it's hilarious.

0:32:17.640 --> 0:32:17.800
<v Speaker 4>Now.

0:32:17.800 --> 0:32:20.479
<v Speaker 2>I just last year when I was out there, we

0:32:20.520 --> 0:32:22.600
<v Speaker 2>saw them and we just kind of we didn't do

0:32:22.640 --> 0:32:23.880
<v Speaker 2>anything it. I think it was the first year, we

0:32:23.880 --> 0:32:26.160
<v Speaker 2>didn't do anything like physical, no arm wrestling, no weird

0:32:26.240 --> 0:32:29.360
<v Speaker 2>bubble wrestling thing. We did one year. I didn't tackle him,

0:32:29.360 --> 0:32:31.479
<v Speaker 2>I didn't hit him, and we're like, oh man, how

0:32:31.520 --> 0:32:33.400
<v Speaker 2>you doing. Like he's like cots of kids, and it's like, wow,

0:32:33.440 --> 0:32:36.600
<v Speaker 2>we're really we've grown up together. Like once a year

0:32:36.600 --> 0:32:39.280
<v Speaker 2>I see these people and I started going. I was

0:32:39.320 --> 0:32:41.920
<v Speaker 2>probably twenty five when I first started going. I'm almost

0:32:41.960 --> 0:32:44.520
<v Speaker 2>forty now. So yeah, like we've watched each other grow

0:32:44.600 --> 0:32:46.800
<v Speaker 2>up through this whole thing, and our bond of me

0:32:46.880 --> 0:32:48.160
<v Speaker 2>getting to tackle that guy.

0:32:48.680 --> 0:32:53.080
<v Speaker 1>Well, that's what is so special about that week, right,

0:32:53.160 --> 0:32:55.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean you and I getting to know each other.

0:32:55.960 --> 0:32:58.880
<v Speaker 1>They I mean just like odd couples. And I'm I'm

0:32:58.960 --> 0:33:00.920
<v Speaker 1>not I'm not even making a joke. You and this

0:33:01.000 --> 0:33:04.880
<v Speaker 1>guy that the relationships started by you tackling him and

0:33:04.920 --> 0:33:07.680
<v Speaker 1>almost killing him. The second year, it's so great. I

0:33:07.680 --> 0:33:09.240
<v Speaker 1>can't wait to be there.

0:33:09.720 --> 0:33:11.320
<v Speaker 2>You've been playing a lot too. I listened to the show.

0:33:11.320 --> 0:33:14.200
<v Speaker 2>I know you've been playing a lot. Well see how

0:33:14.240 --> 0:33:15.080
<v Speaker 2>you hitting it? Hitting good?

0:33:15.160 --> 0:33:15.240
<v Speaker 4>Right?

0:33:15.280 --> 0:33:16.640
<v Speaker 2>You probably scratch.

0:33:16.360 --> 0:33:18.960
<v Speaker 3>Now listen, I got here. I'll tell you this. I

0:33:19.000 --> 0:33:20.840
<v Speaker 3>got some clubs showing up today.

0:33:20.800 --> 0:33:23.800
<v Speaker 1>Are you a guy now or what I you know

0:33:23.840 --> 0:33:30.120
<v Speaker 1>what I am of course p XG man kaboom baby, kaboom. Yeah.

0:33:30.120 --> 0:33:32.040
<v Speaker 1>If you're gonna come at me, you better you better

0:33:32.040 --> 0:33:34.560
<v Speaker 1>get the best. That's all I'm saying I got this

0:33:34.680 --> 0:33:38.000
<v Speaker 1>year is you're actually now that you have ESPN money,

0:33:38.040 --> 0:33:40.080
<v Speaker 1>Maybe we double the bet this year, maybe we make

0:33:40.120 --> 0:33:41.840
<v Speaker 1>it a little more expensive.

0:33:42.040 --> 0:33:44.640
<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right? Oh was that an Okay, Yeah, I'm

0:33:44.680 --> 0:33:48.080
<v Speaker 2>in I'll do it all right the time. You're way

0:33:48.120 --> 0:33:50.080
<v Speaker 2>more consistent than.

0:33:50.160 --> 0:33:52.320
<v Speaker 1>You beat me last year. You beat me last year,

0:33:52.480 --> 0:33:54.160
<v Speaker 1>but you I remember paying you.

0:33:54.200 --> 0:33:56.560
<v Speaker 2>It was horrible. It was horrible. It was a great,

0:33:56.960 --> 0:33:59.360
<v Speaker 2>great night, it really knows it was. It was my

0:33:59.400 --> 0:34:03.320
<v Speaker 2>first time were finishing in the positive numbers. Ever, there

0:34:03.320 --> 0:34:05.040
<v Speaker 2>you go. So I need some strokes then, is what

0:34:05.080 --> 0:34:05.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to say.

0:34:06.960 --> 0:34:09.560
<v Speaker 1>You won last All right, I'll say this is actually

0:34:09.640 --> 0:34:11.520
<v Speaker 1>it works exactly the opposite.

0:34:12.239 --> 0:34:13.359
<v Speaker 3>You won last year.

0:34:14.000 --> 0:34:16.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure you hadn't off. I'm sure you got a

0:34:16.120 --> 0:34:18.000
<v Speaker 2>bunch of bad breaks and the ball bounced out of

0:34:18.000 --> 0:34:18.960
<v Speaker 2>bounds and things like that.

0:34:20.880 --> 0:34:23.000
<v Speaker 1>No, by the way, I do have to tell everyone this.

0:34:23.200 --> 0:34:25.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure they're bored of hearing of our golf but

0:34:25.120 --> 0:34:27.200
<v Speaker 1>let me tell you this, aj almost killed me once.

0:34:27.600 --> 0:34:29.759
<v Speaker 1>This is not this is not a joe.

0:34:31.040 --> 0:34:31.160
<v Speaker 4>Uh.

0:34:31.320 --> 0:34:35.640
<v Speaker 1>They've redone the course, the old number eight. I am

0:34:36.160 --> 0:34:42.319
<v Speaker 1>legitimately mid green, chipping out of the rough. I had

0:34:42.560 --> 0:34:44.440
<v Speaker 1>was not in the bunker there on the left, but

0:34:44.480 --> 0:34:47.800
<v Speaker 1>I was just on top of it, and I am chipping,

0:34:49.120 --> 0:34:55.880
<v Speaker 1>and suddenly I hear and I was like, what the

0:34:56.239 --> 0:34:59.440
<v Speaker 1>what was that? And you were on the tee and

0:34:59.480 --> 0:35:01.720
<v Speaker 1>had driven So this is where you have the advance

0:35:01.800 --> 0:35:04.439
<v Speaker 1>that is not this is not a driveable par four,

0:35:04.480 --> 0:35:07.000
<v Speaker 1>by the way, but it was a par four that

0:35:07.120 --> 0:35:09.799
<v Speaker 1>you just got a hold of and it went in

0:35:09.840 --> 0:35:12.200
<v Speaker 1>the right direction, which sometimes for you it doesn't.

0:35:12.680 --> 0:35:15.400
<v Speaker 2>And you almost killed me sometimes. I mean, if I

0:35:15.400 --> 0:35:17.080
<v Speaker 2>would have known that, I'm sure we would have yelled for.

0:35:17.320 --> 0:35:19.640
<v Speaker 2>Did anyone yell for? Maybe they gave me the go ahead,

0:35:19.680 --> 0:35:23.160
<v Speaker 2>they said, hey, we're good to go. That's Unfortunately we've

0:35:23.239 --> 0:35:25.240
<v Speaker 2>hit over the head of people in our group before.

0:35:25.560 --> 0:35:26.799
<v Speaker 2>Can you know if you can't see him, if they're

0:35:26.840 --> 0:35:30.120
<v Speaker 2>running over the little swell yet i'd something. I guess, patience,

0:35:30.160 --> 0:35:31.799
<v Speaker 2>you gotta just quit an extra beat.

0:35:32.239 --> 0:35:35.400
<v Speaker 1>You're reckless, You're reckless.

0:35:35.480 --> 0:35:37.960
<v Speaker 2>I disagree. I disagree you and Pa both.

0:35:56.680 --> 0:35:59.120
<v Speaker 3>Do you love what you're doing now?

0:36:00.120 --> 0:36:00.480
<v Speaker 4>I do.

0:36:00.719 --> 0:36:04.080
<v Speaker 2>I absolutely love what I'm doing now with Pat mcafeel

0:36:04.120 --> 0:36:06.239
<v Speaker 2>on the Pat on his show, The Pat McAfee Show,

0:36:06.400 --> 0:36:08.480
<v Speaker 2>five days a week. And I never really thought I

0:36:08.560 --> 0:36:11.239
<v Speaker 2>was going to commit to anything five days a week

0:36:11.320 --> 0:36:13.560
<v Speaker 2>like that consistent. Honestly, when I first got into like

0:36:13.600 --> 0:36:15.479
<v Speaker 2>media stuff, I was doing a lot of serious XM

0:36:15.560 --> 0:36:19.840
<v Speaker 2>radio and yeah, doing like analysts work on games, traveling

0:36:19.880 --> 0:36:21.120
<v Speaker 2>to college games a lot.

0:36:21.280 --> 0:36:23.600
<v Speaker 1>So you were traveling with that, you were traveling to

0:36:23.680 --> 0:36:26.400
<v Speaker 1>games cover of years Fox Sports, Yeah.

0:36:26.000 --> 0:36:27.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I did some a bunch of stuff from

0:36:27.640 --> 0:36:31.040
<v Speaker 2>the Conference USA games that I was doing for a

0:36:31.040 --> 0:36:34.359
<v Speaker 2>couple of years after that, different online stuff. And then

0:36:34.360 --> 0:36:37.960
<v Speaker 2>when I started getting doing work with Pat, and then

0:36:38.000 --> 0:36:41.880
<v Speaker 2>when I started going basically five days a week, probably

0:36:41.960 --> 0:36:44.400
<v Speaker 2>three years ago, I stopped going to games on weekends.

0:36:44.400 --> 0:36:46.400
<v Speaker 2>And my kids have gotten order and I'm already like

0:36:46.440 --> 0:36:48.560
<v Speaker 2>assistant coach on a lot of their teams and stuff,

0:36:48.560 --> 0:36:51.000
<v Speaker 2>so I can't weekends would be tough. I think if

0:36:51.000 --> 0:36:53.160
<v Speaker 2>I was gone for fourteen straight weekends.

0:36:53.920 --> 0:36:57.120
<v Speaker 1>Well, you're a smart guy, you're an engaging guy, but

0:36:57.440 --> 0:36:59.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, this is a this is a hard business.

0:36:59.719 --> 0:37:02.400
<v Speaker 1>I know, oh to break into talk to me about

0:37:03.040 --> 0:37:07.040
<v Speaker 1>meeting Pat and how this came about to join as

0:37:07.080 --> 0:37:08.799
<v Speaker 1>a co host on the Pat McAfee show.

0:37:09.239 --> 0:37:12.120
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it was super organic. I don't even know

0:37:12.200 --> 0:37:14.840
<v Speaker 2>the first time he started his show. He had his

0:37:15.400 --> 0:37:18.120
<v Speaker 2>podcast first, when he was still playing for the Colts. Yeah,

0:37:18.160 --> 0:37:21.520
<v Speaker 2>and he asked me to come on. Now, were you friends? No? No,

0:37:21.840 --> 0:37:23.120
<v Speaker 2>I didn't even know each other. The first time we

0:37:23.160 --> 0:37:26.000
<v Speaker 2>really met in person actually when I was I was

0:37:26.080 --> 0:37:28.480
<v Speaker 2>on the Bengals for my one season with the Bengals,

0:37:28.520 --> 0:37:30.200
<v Speaker 2>he was on the Colts. We played a preseason game.

0:37:30.239 --> 0:37:32.799
<v Speaker 2>We were both captains that game, and that's like when

0:37:32.800 --> 0:37:34.160
<v Speaker 2>we officially, Oh hey, what's up?

0:37:34.160 --> 0:37:34.319
<v Speaker 4>Man?

0:37:34.360 --> 0:37:35.880
<v Speaker 2>Like I knew of him and what he was doing,

0:37:36.200 --> 0:37:38.560
<v Speaker 2>and then somehow we started. I came on a show

0:37:38.640 --> 0:37:41.279
<v Speaker 2>and it was awesome, you know he was. He's very

0:37:41.360 --> 0:37:44.000
<v Speaker 2>unique and super talented and smart and funny in different

0:37:44.000 --> 0:37:46.600
<v Speaker 2>way than anybody. So we kind of had a It

0:37:46.680 --> 0:37:48.279
<v Speaker 2>was always fun. I would keep I would come on

0:37:48.320 --> 0:37:49.480
<v Speaker 2>there every once in a while and ask me to

0:37:49.520 --> 0:37:51.080
<v Speaker 2>come on and be on for twenty thirty minutes and

0:37:51.160 --> 0:37:53.440
<v Speaker 2>enjoy it. Never thought anything of it. And then he

0:37:53.560 --> 0:37:57.480
<v Speaker 2>was with Barstool and they asked me to join he

0:37:57.600 --> 0:38:00.520
<v Speaker 2>and guy named Jerry Thornton for a podcast. We'd record

0:38:00.520 --> 0:38:03.000
<v Speaker 2>it every Sunday night after the Sunday night football game

0:38:03.040 --> 0:38:05.160
<v Speaker 2>and we would just recap and talk about all the

0:38:05.200 --> 0:38:07.880
<v Speaker 2>games that happened that day. Honestly, we really enjoyed it.

0:38:07.880 --> 0:38:09.840
<v Speaker 2>I loved it. It was really fun. And then after

0:38:09.880 --> 0:38:12.040
<v Speaker 2>that I would go on a show a little bit.

0:38:12.440 --> 0:38:14.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't know, once every couple of weeks maybe,

0:38:14.880 --> 0:38:17.839
<v Speaker 2>and then right before, right as COVID hit, I was like, man,

0:38:17.880 --> 0:38:21.240
<v Speaker 2>we should do something, like everything's shutting down, there's no sports,

0:38:21.239 --> 0:38:24.440
<v Speaker 2>there's nothing. We should do something more consistently. And then

0:38:24.480 --> 0:38:27.080
<v Speaker 2>after that he would go live on YouTube and I

0:38:27.080 --> 0:38:29.520
<v Speaker 2>would join him. It's called McAfee and Hawk Sports Talk,

0:38:29.840 --> 0:38:31.480
<v Speaker 2>and that's how it all started. I did it like

0:38:31.840 --> 0:38:36.560
<v Speaker 2>three days a week, and that eventually became five days

0:38:36.560 --> 0:38:39.240
<v Speaker 2>a week. And now yeah, and it's awesome, h Paton.

0:38:39.560 --> 0:38:42.359
<v Speaker 2>You got to know the boys, and it's just how

0:38:42.400 --> 0:38:46.240
<v Speaker 2>it's where it is now is ridiculous, Like it's bizarre,

0:38:46.239 --> 0:38:48.719
<v Speaker 2>and it's the most fun I've ever had by far

0:38:48.840 --> 0:38:51.200
<v Speaker 2>doing anything. When it comes to I guess you could

0:38:51.239 --> 0:38:53.800
<v Speaker 2>call it in the media job it's not for me.

0:38:53.880 --> 0:38:55.760
<v Speaker 2>It's yeah, it's fun, it's really fun.

0:38:56.280 --> 0:39:00.920
<v Speaker 1>Well, it is entertainment. It's groundbreaking in a lot of ways,

0:39:01.200 --> 0:39:06.480
<v Speaker 1>and not surprising. The number of viewers and subscribers five

0:39:06.560 --> 0:39:09.160
<v Speaker 1>days a week on YouTube is over two million people.

0:39:09.800 --> 0:39:13.560
<v Speaker 1>The latest reports I heard is that you personally have

0:39:13.840 --> 0:39:18.080
<v Speaker 1>a one hundred million dollar contract a year at ESPN

0:39:18.560 --> 0:39:21.799
<v Speaker 1>the next twenty years. You got some good sources, Brian,

0:39:21.960 --> 0:39:26.160
<v Speaker 1>which is really impressive. That you have managed to take

0:39:26.200 --> 0:39:29.680
<v Speaker 1>this little, this little side job and turn it into

0:39:29.760 --> 0:39:35.560
<v Speaker 1>an empire is incredible. I was going down the rabbit

0:39:35.600 --> 0:39:40.000
<v Speaker 1>hole about all of the information about the contract and oh,

0:39:40.040 --> 0:39:44.160
<v Speaker 1>there's all kind of I know, it very entertaining. Are

0:39:44.160 --> 0:39:49.560
<v Speaker 1>you excited? Just announced in May you guys are going

0:39:49.640 --> 0:39:56.240
<v Speaker 1>to be moving to the original mothership ESPN, same show,

0:39:56.719 --> 0:40:01.560
<v Speaker 1>but no bad words. That's that's no eff company, just words,

0:40:02.160 --> 0:40:02.879
<v Speaker 1>just no F word.

0:40:02.920 --> 0:40:04.759
<v Speaker 2>And then Pat offered that up to them as like

0:40:04.840 --> 0:40:08.560
<v Speaker 2>a negotiation, not a negotiation, as like goodwill, like hey,

0:40:08.640 --> 0:40:10.640
<v Speaker 2>won't say the F word, try not to say it

0:40:10.680 --> 0:40:13.680
<v Speaker 2>as much, but everything else is out there, and they, yeah,

0:40:13.719 --> 0:40:15.200
<v Speaker 2>they want the show, they want us to do the

0:40:15.239 --> 0:40:17.600
<v Speaker 2>real show. And he Pat was talking to a bunch

0:40:17.600 --> 0:40:20.279
<v Speaker 2>of different people on where to take it or where

0:40:20.280 --> 0:40:22.400
<v Speaker 2>you could go with it, And that was always his

0:40:22.440 --> 0:40:24.600
<v Speaker 2>first thing from the jump, like you don't have any

0:40:24.640 --> 0:40:27.640
<v Speaker 2>you have no creative control over this. He's always had

0:40:27.640 --> 0:40:31.120
<v Speaker 2>complete ownership of it. And that's how it is going there.

0:40:31.120 --> 0:40:33.239
<v Speaker 2>And it's gonna be on from noon to two on

0:40:33.920 --> 0:40:37.360
<v Speaker 2>ESPN like the big ESPN, the main main deal, and

0:40:37.440 --> 0:40:40.080
<v Speaker 2>it'll be yeah, and then we'll keep going on YouTube

0:40:40.080 --> 0:40:41.239
<v Speaker 2>after that twelve to two times.

0:40:41.880 --> 0:40:44.040
<v Speaker 1>Now will you will you be on from twelve to two?

0:40:44.080 --> 0:40:45.719
<v Speaker 1>Are you still going to come in an hour late?

0:40:46.040 --> 0:40:48.720
<v Speaker 1>I know that's a good question. That's what's cool funny

0:40:48.719 --> 0:40:51.920
<v Speaker 1>about the show. We don't it's pretty uh spontaneous. We

0:40:51.920 --> 0:40:54.759
<v Speaker 1>don't sit there and draw out a box and B

0:40:54.760 --> 0:40:56.680
<v Speaker 1>block and C block and do all this stuff. It's

0:40:56.760 --> 0:40:59.480
<v Speaker 1>very organic and it's very like instan off our instincts.

0:40:59.480 --> 0:41:01.439
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, there's still a bunch we haven't even really

0:41:01.440 --> 0:41:03.879
<v Speaker 1>thought about that. We'll figure out here in the next

0:41:03.920 --> 0:41:06.920
<v Speaker 1>month or two. I mean, I was thinking about this

0:41:07.200 --> 0:41:10.000
<v Speaker 1>knowing I was going to talk to you today. You're

0:41:10.360 --> 0:41:15.759
<v Speaker 1>like smart, like a fox. Everybody else is in studio

0:41:16.640 --> 0:41:20.440
<v Speaker 1>looking at Pat with his cut off. What do you

0:41:20.440 --> 0:41:25.319
<v Speaker 1>call them tank top shirts on roaming around, pacing back

0:41:25.360 --> 0:41:30.240
<v Speaker 1>and forth and guess where AJ is AJ is in Columbus, Ohio.

0:41:31.000 --> 0:41:32.719
<v Speaker 1>How in the world is that?

0:41:32.880 --> 0:41:32.960
<v Speaker 3>Just?

0:41:33.400 --> 0:41:37.120
<v Speaker 1>So here's what I thought. What I thought was, tell

0:41:37.160 --> 0:41:39.360
<v Speaker 1>me if I'm right that it was the start of

0:41:39.440 --> 0:41:42.840
<v Speaker 1>COVID and that's just that became what you did and

0:41:42.880 --> 0:41:45.360
<v Speaker 1>then you just stuck with it or did you just

0:41:45.400 --> 0:41:47.160
<v Speaker 1>say I'm not leaving Yo?

0:41:47.440 --> 0:41:49.759
<v Speaker 2>It was it was COVID. I'm here like I knew, Like,

0:41:49.800 --> 0:41:52.360
<v Speaker 2>there's no way I was. I have four kids, we

0:41:52.440 --> 0:41:56.319
<v Speaker 2>built a house in Columbus well a while ago, and yeah,

0:41:56.360 --> 0:41:59.080
<v Speaker 2>there's no I mean, it would be if I could

0:41:59.120 --> 0:42:01.160
<v Speaker 2>be in studio every day with everybody. It's awesome and

0:42:01.200 --> 0:42:03.560
<v Speaker 2>it's very fun in studio, it's just not possible for

0:42:03.680 --> 0:42:06.680
<v Speaker 2>me and I drive there during the season. Since Pat's

0:42:06.719 --> 0:42:10.279
<v Speaker 2>on game day as well, he leaves Friday mornings, I'll

0:42:10.360 --> 0:42:13.040
<v Speaker 2>drive in every Friday during the season. I'll drive to

0:42:13.040 --> 0:42:16.600
<v Speaker 2>Indianapolis and go host a show from studio while Pat

0:42:16.680 --> 0:42:18.759
<v Speaker 2>comes onto the show from the game day set. So

0:42:18.800 --> 0:42:21.560
<v Speaker 2>I'll do that every Friday, and then unfortunately, the only

0:42:21.640 --> 0:42:23.640
<v Speaker 2>time I'm really even at when I go to India

0:42:23.640 --> 0:42:26.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm at the studio is when Pat's out of town basically,

0:42:26.520 --> 0:42:28.360
<v Speaker 2>so it's fun when I can actually get there and

0:42:28.360 --> 0:42:30.200
<v Speaker 2>we're in studio and we do stuff together, that's when

0:42:30.239 --> 0:42:34.200
<v Speaker 2>we obviously we love that, right, you know? It was funny.

0:42:34.280 --> 0:42:36.400
<v Speaker 1>I was doing some research here and I went on

0:42:36.440 --> 0:42:39.479
<v Speaker 1>the YouTube for the Pat McAfee show, and I saw,

0:42:39.840 --> 0:42:43.560
<v Speaker 1>like two days ago, there was a screenshot. It was

0:42:43.600 --> 0:42:47.400
<v Speaker 1>the same, the same exact picture, and I thought, oh,

0:42:47.440 --> 0:42:52.480
<v Speaker 1>did they upload the wrong video on both No, you guys,

0:42:52.640 --> 0:42:55.560
<v Speaker 1>you were just wearing the same thing. You guys, don't

0:42:55.280 --> 0:42:58.560
<v Speaker 1>You don't think about wardrobe there at the Pat McAfee show.

0:42:59.080 --> 0:43:02.040
<v Speaker 2>No, it's very I guess you could say I'm simple

0:43:02.239 --> 0:43:04.080
<v Speaker 2>like that. And I used to try. I used to

0:43:04.120 --> 0:43:06.879
<v Speaker 2>wear different different shirts or whatever, and then Pat would

0:43:06.880 --> 0:43:09.040
<v Speaker 2>always wear his black tank top. And so for the

0:43:09.160 --> 0:43:10.960
<v Speaker 2>last year or two, I don't know, I have like

0:43:10.960 --> 0:43:13.279
<v Speaker 2>four or five shirts that I wear on the show.

0:43:13.360 --> 0:43:15.800
<v Speaker 2>They're all either a black long sleeve or a hoodie.

0:43:16.200 --> 0:43:19.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he goes that's true. He goes color. Sometimes he's

0:43:19.880 --> 0:43:23.280
<v Speaker 1>got a purple one that really pops everyone's.

0:43:22.920 --> 0:43:24.799
<v Speaker 2>While he does have a colorful one, but yeah, no,

0:43:24.840 --> 0:43:26.640
<v Speaker 2>his go to is a black tank top everyone he

0:43:26.960 --> 0:43:29.080
<v Speaker 2>wore T shirts for I don't know, a couple of

0:43:29.120 --> 0:43:30.759
<v Speaker 2>weeks stretch there. He thought he was gonna wear T

0:43:30.800 --> 0:43:32.319
<v Speaker 2>shirts and he couldn't do it. He didn't like it.

0:43:32.360 --> 0:43:36.280
<v Speaker 1>I guess interesting. I got to ask you, I'm curious

0:43:36.280 --> 0:43:38.359
<v Speaker 1>about this with the change over to ESPN. You know

0:43:38.400 --> 0:43:40.800
<v Speaker 1>we're not You're not going to change anything except except

0:43:40.840 --> 0:43:43.880
<v Speaker 1>the use of the F word. Has anyone talked to

0:43:43.960 --> 0:43:47.600
<v Speaker 1>you about your signature prop?

0:43:48.160 --> 0:43:49.759
<v Speaker 3>I guess what do you mean?

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<v Speaker 2>The cigar?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

0:43:51.920 --> 0:43:56.360
<v Speaker 2>No issues? That's another good question, Brian, that's another great question. No,

0:43:56.360 --> 0:44:01.040
<v Speaker 2>no one said anything to me, bully me. I enjoy it. Well,

0:44:01.600 --> 0:44:04.880
<v Speaker 2>keep me focused, keep me focused? Is that right? Well?

0:44:04.960 --> 0:44:08.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm a naturally like I can get, you know, off

0:44:08.640 --> 0:44:10.600
<v Speaker 2>track if it gives me something to do. I'm not

0:44:10.640 --> 0:44:13.839
<v Speaker 2>fidgeting like I'm a fidgitor kind of always doing something

0:44:13.960 --> 0:44:16.520
<v Speaker 2>look around, And that definitely keeps me locked in. And

0:44:16.560 --> 0:44:18.600
<v Speaker 2>I enjoy it. And it's really the only time I

0:44:18.600 --> 0:44:21.520
<v Speaker 2>smoke cigars is on the show. Really, it feels right

0:44:21.560 --> 0:44:23.680
<v Speaker 2>to when I'm doing the show to have a cigar

0:44:23.719 --> 0:44:26.640
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, yeah, I don't. It's definitely not a prop.

0:44:26.840 --> 0:44:29.279
<v Speaker 2>It's not a gimmick. I should say it's yeah, I

0:44:29.440 --> 0:44:30.840
<v Speaker 2>know it just turned into it.

0:44:30.880 --> 0:44:33.600
<v Speaker 1>I didn't mean a gimmick. I really literally meant a prop.

0:44:33.680 --> 0:44:36.480
<v Speaker 1>And what you just said to me is actually that

0:44:36.680 --> 0:44:42.919
<v Speaker 1>is a huge actor trick. Really, Yeah, that you if

0:44:42.920 --> 0:44:47.000
<v Speaker 1>you have a prop, you have something to focus some

0:44:47.080 --> 0:44:50.120
<v Speaker 1>of your energy on. I'll tell you James Spader. I mean,

0:44:50.160 --> 0:44:51.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if he would like me saying this

0:44:51.800 --> 0:44:54.040
<v Speaker 1>or if he even agrees, but I used to watch

0:44:54.160 --> 0:44:58.480
<v Speaker 1>James Spader, and I mean he he knew how to

0:44:58.520 --> 0:45:02.560
<v Speaker 1>work a spiral notebook. No, I mean he yeah, I

0:45:02.560 --> 0:45:04.960
<v Speaker 1>mean when he's going to open it or close it

0:45:05.120 --> 0:45:07.520
<v Speaker 1>or write something, or how he holds it, you know,

0:45:07.520 --> 0:45:10.040
<v Speaker 1>how he would hold it in his hand, and he

0:45:10.080 --> 0:45:12.640
<v Speaker 1>would think about all of these. I mean he worked

0:45:12.680 --> 0:45:15.200
<v Speaker 1>props better than any actor I've ever seen. I will

0:45:15.239 --> 0:45:17.839
<v Speaker 1>say that. So it actually makes a lot of sense

0:45:17.880 --> 0:45:20.359
<v Speaker 1>what you're saying, that you have this cigar you can

0:45:20.400 --> 0:45:22.600
<v Speaker 1>go to if you need a moment to think or

0:45:22.840 --> 0:45:25.240
<v Speaker 1>process or yeah, makes a lot of sense.

0:45:25.480 --> 0:45:28.000
<v Speaker 2>And it's always it's like anything like smoking's like it's

0:45:28.000 --> 0:45:30.520
<v Speaker 2>about like it's a whole process. I gotta you know,

0:45:30.680 --> 0:45:33.480
<v Speaker 2>I cut it. I got it sometimes everyone's very particular.

0:45:33.520 --> 0:45:35.200
<v Speaker 2>I stab it a bunch if you feel like the

0:45:35.200 --> 0:45:37.759
<v Speaker 2>poll is not enough and all that. So I enjoy it.

0:45:37.960 --> 0:45:40.080
<v Speaker 2>I definitely enjoy it. And it keeps me. It does

0:45:40.160 --> 0:45:41.960
<v Speaker 2>kind of keep me on track, I really think. So.

0:45:42.600 --> 0:45:45.520
<v Speaker 1>It's interesting, though. I wonder if the Mothership is going

0:45:45.560 --> 0:45:47.200
<v Speaker 1>to say anything about that.

0:45:47.840 --> 0:45:48.800
<v Speaker 2>Man, I don't know.

0:45:49.160 --> 0:45:51.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm just bringing these things up. I don't know, it'll

0:45:51.880 --> 0:45:54.600
<v Speaker 1>be interesting. I can't really thought about that. I can't

0:45:54.600 --> 0:45:59.320
<v Speaker 1>wait to see the transition. I can't wait. And I hope, God,

0:45:59.400 --> 0:46:02.440
<v Speaker 1>you've been so successful. I hope you just stick with it.

0:46:02.719 --> 0:46:06.040
<v Speaker 1>I hope it is the same. I really do. We will. Yeah,

0:46:06.080 --> 0:46:08.120
<v Speaker 1>I think padd will make it the same. Yeah, I

0:46:08.160 --> 0:46:08.600
<v Speaker 1>agree with you.

0:46:08.680 --> 0:46:09.960
<v Speaker 2>It's gonna have to be What do you mean it's

0:46:09.960 --> 0:46:12.400
<v Speaker 2>gonna I don't think we know any anything else.

0:46:12.960 --> 0:46:16.440
<v Speaker 1>Well, well, that's a great point. You're a smart guy.

0:46:16.960 --> 0:46:19.840
<v Speaker 1>You're not fooling me. You're a smart guy. But yeah,

0:46:20.000 --> 0:46:23.480
<v Speaker 1>I get it. There's well, there's a reason it works.

0:46:23.880 --> 0:46:27.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's authentic. It's real. No one's there's no plan.

0:46:28.000 --> 0:46:30.200
<v Speaker 2>We're just there. We're just doing it, having fun.

0:46:30.400 --> 0:46:33.279
<v Speaker 1>You're just doing it just like you're playing football. Take

0:46:33.280 --> 0:46:35.359
<v Speaker 1>it a play at a time, take it a month

0:46:35.360 --> 0:46:37.000
<v Speaker 1>at a time. That's the game at a time, a

0:46:37.040 --> 0:46:37.600
<v Speaker 1>year at a time.

0:46:38.200 --> 0:46:38.319
<v Speaker 4>Man.

0:46:38.440 --> 0:46:41.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so smart. Helpful for golf too.

0:46:41.000 --> 0:46:43.960
<v Speaker 2>By the way, be dumber. We've got to be dumber

0:46:43.960 --> 0:46:47.920
<v Speaker 2>on the golf course. Yeah, be dumber. I'm not mentioning

0:46:47.960 --> 0:46:50.640
<v Speaker 2>any names.

0:46:50.520 --> 0:46:53.880
<v Speaker 1>Playing football or what you're doing. Now, what do you

0:46:53.880 --> 0:46:54.840
<v Speaker 1>get more joy from?

0:46:55.480 --> 0:46:58.360
<v Speaker 2>That's a good question. That's a very good question. I

0:46:58.360 --> 0:47:02.480
<v Speaker 2>mean football, anyone I'd played. I'd played football until I

0:47:02.640 --> 0:47:05.279
<v Speaker 2>was dead, if you could, I mean, I but I

0:47:05.320 --> 0:47:08.920
<v Speaker 2>understand the game my body do. I understand you can't physically.

0:47:09.400 --> 0:47:11.960
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, football is awesome, man. But now, I mean

0:47:12.239 --> 0:47:15.280
<v Speaker 2>what I'm doing now, like I would my technically my job.

0:47:15.640 --> 0:47:18.520
<v Speaker 2>With what I do with Pat, I hope to do

0:47:18.560 --> 0:47:21.880
<v Speaker 2>it for the next one hundred years. Honestly, I love it,

0:47:21.920 --> 0:47:22.480
<v Speaker 2>I really do.

0:47:23.360 --> 0:47:27.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's so great. I'm so happy for you. I

0:47:27.120 --> 0:47:32.080
<v Speaker 1>mean again, where we started, AJ Like Pat had had

0:47:32.080 --> 0:47:36.320
<v Speaker 1>the podcast before you even retired, so you were thinking ahead,

0:47:37.200 --> 0:47:37.600
<v Speaker 1>my friend.

0:47:37.680 --> 0:47:39.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was just I was a fan of other

0:47:39.239 --> 0:47:41.360
<v Speaker 2>podcasts too, and I didn't I did know that I

0:47:41.400 --> 0:47:44.880
<v Speaker 2>wanted to do something in the media where whatever that

0:47:45.000 --> 0:47:47.640
<v Speaker 2>might be. But I honestly from being a fan of

0:47:47.719 --> 0:47:50.319
<v Speaker 2>listening to podcasts, that's what made me start my own,

0:47:50.640 --> 0:47:52.719
<v Speaker 2>and I knew, yeah, this is also it's a way

0:47:52.760 --> 0:47:54.839
<v Speaker 2>you can reach out and speak to cool people like

0:47:54.840 --> 0:47:56.759
<v Speaker 2>it's hey, come on, brob, you want to come on

0:47:56.760 --> 0:47:59.160
<v Speaker 2>my podcast? Like that's it, and always like wow, they're

0:47:59.200 --> 0:48:01.640
<v Speaker 2>actually the actually here, like this is cool. I'm actually

0:48:01.719 --> 0:48:04.960
<v Speaker 2>doing this so early on especially, and that's yeah, I'm

0:48:05.000 --> 0:48:08.399
<v Speaker 2>glad I did it. I'm not like a super I'm

0:48:08.440 --> 0:48:12.279
<v Speaker 2>not naturally an outgoing dude that just talks all the time.

0:48:12.320 --> 0:48:14.439
<v Speaker 2>That's not who I am. But I definitely talk way

0:48:14.440 --> 0:48:16.640
<v Speaker 2>more now than I did when I was in high

0:48:16.640 --> 0:48:17.960
<v Speaker 2>school or college, that's for sure.

0:48:18.640 --> 0:48:21.680
<v Speaker 1>Well, you're on one of the largest sports entertainment shows

0:48:21.840 --> 0:48:24.200
<v Speaker 1>in the world right now, or at least in the

0:48:24.320 --> 0:48:29.200
<v Speaker 1>United States. That alone makes you an expert. There are

0:48:29.239 --> 0:48:33.120
<v Speaker 1>four teams in the AFC East. List them in the

0:48:33.320 --> 0:48:35.439
<v Speaker 1>order that they're going to finish the season this year.

0:48:35.480 --> 0:48:37.920
<v Speaker 2>Come on, now, I'm not doing predictions. I can't prea

0:48:38.000 --> 0:48:39.800
<v Speaker 2>to predictions yet. It's early.

0:48:39.920 --> 0:48:41.920
<v Speaker 1>That's why I said, But I'm talking to you now,

0:48:42.520 --> 0:48:43.640
<v Speaker 1>how are the Jets going to be?

0:48:44.080 --> 0:48:47.200
<v Speaker 2>How about that? I mean, the Jets should be awesome,

0:48:47.719 --> 0:48:50.759
<v Speaker 2>don't you think they? Before Aaron got there, they had

0:48:50.800 --> 0:48:54.000
<v Speaker 2>a really really good team. And now Aaron's there, So

0:48:55.120 --> 0:48:57.759
<v Speaker 2>let's see how far I can go, man, I mean

0:48:57.800 --> 0:49:01.160
<v Speaker 2>that's what I think. It's gonna be very interesting. Does

0:49:01.200 --> 0:49:03.960
<v Speaker 2>it worry you that everything seems to be so awesome

0:49:04.000 --> 0:49:06.920
<v Speaker 2>and so positive now and everyone everyone's so happy? Does

0:49:06.960 --> 0:49:10.280
<v Speaker 2>that scare you?

0:49:10.320 --> 0:49:10.480
<v Speaker 3>No?

0:49:10.600 --> 0:49:13.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm just interested to see how it plays out.

0:49:13.560 --> 0:49:15.560
<v Speaker 2>You know, Okay? If I did? Yeah, I mean, of

0:49:15.600 --> 0:49:17.439
<v Speaker 2>course I would pick the Jets to win the ANFC East,

0:49:17.440 --> 0:49:19.520
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't you. I mean, there's a lot of good teams

0:49:19.520 --> 0:49:21.440
<v Speaker 2>over there. There's a lot of good teams over there.

0:49:21.480 --> 0:49:24.239
<v Speaker 2>Who would you pick? Okay? Are the Dolphins? No, you're

0:49:24.239 --> 0:49:26.640
<v Speaker 2>gonna say that. I think everyone's saying the Patriots are

0:49:26.680 --> 0:49:28.680
<v Speaker 2>gonna come in last, aren't they? Yeah?

0:49:28.680 --> 0:49:31.560
<v Speaker 1>East, that would be that would be general consensus.

0:49:31.680 --> 0:49:35.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, then probably you'd probably I mean, yeah, Jets, Bill's Dolphins,

0:49:35.280 --> 0:49:37.040
<v Speaker 2>Patriots or I would imagine a lot of people would

0:49:37.040 --> 0:49:41.120
<v Speaker 2>do or they go Bill's Jets? Maybe? Yeah? Are you

0:49:41.120 --> 0:49:41.920
<v Speaker 2>gonna go to some games?

0:49:41.960 --> 0:49:46.080
<v Speaker 1>New York Dolphins are are unknown? Look, I hope to

0:49:46.120 --> 0:49:48.920
<v Speaker 1>go back to Green Bay and maybe check out New York.

0:49:49.120 --> 0:49:52.560
<v Speaker 1>And you know, I'm gonna go everywhere this year. Yeah,

0:49:52.600 --> 0:49:55.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go everywhere. You said, you're a packer. You

0:49:55.520 --> 0:49:56.560
<v Speaker 1>still root for Green Bay?

0:49:56.760 --> 0:49:59.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'll never not root for him. But it does

0:49:59.520 --> 0:50:03.160
<v Speaker 2>feel different without Aaron there. It will feel different, no question.

0:50:04.120 --> 0:50:06.360
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, all my all the people that keep be

0:50:06.400 --> 0:50:08.799
<v Speaker 2>connected to the Packers are still there. And they're the

0:50:08.800 --> 0:50:12.680
<v Speaker 2>equipment staff, the training staff, doctors, all those people that

0:50:12.760 --> 0:50:14.719
<v Speaker 2>don't turn over, like coaches and everyone else.

0:50:15.239 --> 0:50:18.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a special place, man, it's a it's a

0:50:18.200 --> 0:50:21.360
<v Speaker 1>special place, you know. I have, over the last couple

0:50:21.360 --> 0:50:25.239
<v Speaker 1>of years, done some hosting on Good Morning Football, and

0:50:25.600 --> 0:50:28.480
<v Speaker 1>I am jealous of what you get to do now.

0:50:28.680 --> 0:50:32.200
<v Speaker 1>The time that I spend over there, I love it.

0:50:32.920 --> 0:50:37.000
<v Speaker 1>I love hanging out and talking about sports.

0:50:37.080 --> 0:50:37.799
<v Speaker 2>It's fun, right.

0:50:38.160 --> 0:50:40.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, But they're not gonna let they They won't let

0:50:40.280 --> 0:50:43.920
<v Speaker 1>me sit in my what does Pat always say, in

0:50:43.960 --> 0:50:47.800
<v Speaker 1>your library above your garage or your loft or whatever

0:50:47.840 --> 0:50:50.239
<v Speaker 1>he says. Yeah, yeah, they're not gonna let They're not

0:50:50.239 --> 0:50:51.040
<v Speaker 1>gonna let me do that.

0:50:51.560 --> 0:50:53.839
<v Speaker 2>I don't know though they might you could, especially now

0:50:53.960 --> 0:50:57.080
<v Speaker 2>that now it's normal to have remote stuff on big

0:50:57.120 --> 0:50:59.839
<v Speaker 2>time Network TV, Like there's people that are doing full

0:50:59.840 --> 0:51:03.560
<v Speaker 2>shows from addicts like this. So that's luckily the timing

0:51:03.560 --> 0:51:05.200
<v Speaker 2>worked out for me too to be able to stay.

0:51:04.960 --> 0:51:10.200
<v Speaker 1>Here, right, That's what I figured, dude. I'm so happy

0:51:10.239 --> 0:51:14.680
<v Speaker 1>for you and your success. Just one of the great guys,

0:51:15.440 --> 0:51:19.600
<v Speaker 1>and I feel so lucky to call you and consider

0:51:19.680 --> 0:51:23.040
<v Speaker 1>you a friend. And I'm just so happy for you

0:51:24.160 --> 0:51:27.000
<v Speaker 1>and the success that you have had with Pat on

0:51:27.040 --> 0:51:29.400
<v Speaker 1>that show. And I know you guys are just gonna

0:51:29.440 --> 0:51:32.800
<v Speaker 1>kill it on ESPN. So congratulations, it's awesome.

0:51:32.840 --> 0:51:35.960
<v Speaker 2>Thank you, man, I do I really really appreciate that.

0:51:36.040 --> 0:51:38.719
<v Speaker 2>It's the connections you make from playing in the deal

0:51:38.719 --> 0:51:41.000
<v Speaker 2>in Tahoe, playing in the golf in anyone. I'm sure

0:51:41.040 --> 0:51:44.160
<v Speaker 2>people break get annoyed listening to people talk about Tahoe,

0:51:44.239 --> 0:51:47.520
<v Speaker 2>but it's like, yeah, it's sorry, Bud, like it's it's awesome,

0:51:47.560 --> 0:51:50.520
<v Speaker 2>but just it's the people. It's everybody. All the guys

0:51:50.560 --> 0:51:54.200
<v Speaker 2>and girls that play in the event are cool because

0:51:54.200 --> 0:51:56.120
<v Speaker 2>if you're a douche, they don't invite you back, Like

0:51:56.160 --> 0:51:59.000
<v Speaker 2>if you're a turd and they don't, you don't come back.

0:51:59.080 --> 0:52:01.400
<v Speaker 2>And that's the thing. So everybody's like, man, this is

0:52:01.400 --> 0:52:03.560
<v Speaker 2>really cool. I want to come back next year and

0:52:03.600 --> 0:52:05.360
<v Speaker 2>that's what I've been doing for like twelve years.

0:52:07.280 --> 0:52:11.959
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's really fun. I can't wait. July fourteenth through

0:52:12.080 --> 0:52:19.240
<v Speaker 1>the sixteenth on various NBC, my Mothership networks and sports

0:52:19.239 --> 0:52:22.160
<v Speaker 1>stations and on the mother Ship I know on Saturday

0:52:22.200 --> 0:52:26.760
<v Speaker 1>and Sunday. Check it out AJ Hawk, myself and many

0:52:26.840 --> 0:52:27.359
<v Speaker 1>many more.

0:52:27.960 --> 0:52:28.200
<v Speaker 2>AJ.

0:52:28.320 --> 0:52:30.239
<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to see you and give you a

0:52:30.280 --> 0:52:33.200
<v Speaker 1>hug and maybe have a beverage and tons of laughs

0:52:33.320 --> 0:52:36.880
<v Speaker 1>and the normal bet, the normal bet. I'm making the

0:52:36.920 --> 0:52:40.279
<v Speaker 1>normal bet right now. I'll see you. I'll see you

0:52:40.360 --> 0:52:42.359
<v Speaker 1>really soon. AJ, thanks for coming on.

0:52:42.960 --> 0:52:44.880
<v Speaker 2>Great seeing you brides appreciate it. I'm a fan of

0:52:44.880 --> 0:52:47.160
<v Speaker 2>the show obviously. Thank you for having me on. Man

0:52:47.200 --> 0:53:01.000
<v Speaker 2>appreciate it. Kim not wait to see you in Tahoe.

0:53:01.840 --> 0:53:05.719
<v Speaker 1>AJ, You're the best, and more importantly, you always make

0:53:05.800 --> 0:53:07.239
<v Speaker 1>me laugh, so thank you for that.

0:53:07.680 --> 0:53:09.279
<v Speaker 3>Thanks for the packer love.

0:53:09.640 --> 0:53:10.479
<v Speaker 2>That's what she said.

0:53:11.480 --> 0:53:14.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that even works, but AJ, thank

0:53:14.080 --> 0:53:17.160
<v Speaker 1>you for coming on today. Listeners, you can find AJ

0:53:17.560 --> 0:53:23.600
<v Speaker 1>on Yeah, the Pat McAfee show. He and Pat are incredible.

0:53:23.719 --> 0:53:27.319
<v Speaker 1>Be sure to check them out. And as always, you

0:53:27.400 --> 0:53:29.840
<v Speaker 1>know where I'll be this time next week.

0:53:29.960 --> 0:53:31.200
<v Speaker 3>That's right sitting right.

0:53:31.080 --> 0:53:34.600
<v Speaker 1>Here in your drums lobes.

0:53:35.040 --> 0:53:35.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm in your ears.

0:53:36.280 --> 0:53:37.320
<v Speaker 2>I'll see you next week.

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