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Speaker 2: There you go. And then he would slam his little

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Speaker 2: Yeah it Hi, I'm Ajhawk and I plan on taking

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Speaker 1: Hi everybody, and welcome back to Off the Beat. I

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Speaker 1: Ding dong, the witch is dead. We have an NFL

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Speaker 1: himself a Packer. I'm excited. Are you excited? I'm excited? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: here we go a jay Hawk. Everyone. Bubble and squeak.

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Speaker 1: I love it.

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Speaker 3: Bubble and Squeakna.

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Speaker 2: What's up? Brian? How you doing?

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Speaker 3: I'm good?

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Speaker 2: How are you great? You know, same old just I've

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Speaker 2: been listening, man, I text you like a month or

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Speaker 1: Well, I really appreciate that, you know before. I mean

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Speaker 1: So even though you go to Ohio State, you end up,

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Speaker 2: But yeah, going in, I knew, hopefully this is this

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Speaker 1: First off, let me say this, I want to say

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Speaker 2: them tough in the playoffs. Georgia, Man, you guys got

438
00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:32,640
Speaker 2: a good thing going down there.

439
00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,879
Speaker 1: Brian, Do you wish you had gone to Georgia instead

440
00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,920
Speaker 1: of Ohio State? No, because you'd be a better You'd

441
00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:43,200
Speaker 1: be a more successful person had you done that.

442
00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:44,760
Speaker 2: You didn't even go to Georgia.

443
00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:49,320
Speaker 1: I know, I know, but I didn't play football. Mu right, Hey,

444
00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:53,119
Speaker 1: if that's right. If I had played football, yep, I

445
00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:54,160
Speaker 1: would have gone to Georgia.

446
00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,159
Speaker 2: Would you? Did you play football at all?

447
00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:56,600
Speaker 3: Growing up?

448
00:20:57,600 --> 00:20:58,200
Speaker 2: Just a little?

449
00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I you know, I had my bad leg

450
00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:05,359
Speaker 1: situation pretty early before before I really had the opportunity

451
00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,440
Speaker 1: to get into it. But if I had, I would

452
00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,760
Speaker 1: have gone to Georgia. That's That's really all I have

453
00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:12,800
Speaker 1: to say about that. Oh why am I a Packer?

454
00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:14,560
Speaker 1: You know why I'm a Packers fan because of you.

455
00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,679
Speaker 2: Not me. It came on for me.

456
00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:35,439
Speaker 4: But okay.

457
00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,760
Speaker 1: AJ gets drafted fifth by the Packers in two thousand

458
00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,960
Speaker 1: and six and in twenty ten or following the twenty

459
00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:47,040
Speaker 1: ten season, wins the Super Bowl in Dallas, Texas. I

460
00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,120
Speaker 1: call that the Ice Bowl because there was so much

461
00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,760
Speaker 1: ice out you guys didn't have to deal with. We

462
00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:56,280
Speaker 1: couldn't hardly get to the stadium, But I was there.

463
00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:01,240
Speaker 1: I saw you play the all time leading tackler for

464
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:05,440
Speaker 1: the green Bay Packers nine seasons twenty six to fourteen.

465
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,679
Speaker 1: If my math is right, eight years, nine seasons with

466
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,680
Speaker 1: the Packers. Do you consider yourself a Packer?

467
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,360
Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely, I technically got played eleven years. I played

468
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,640
Speaker 2: one year with Cincinnati after my nine in green Bay,

469
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 2: and then I got a season with Atlanta the year

470
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:21,520
Speaker 2: they went to the Super Bowl, which had a great

471
00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:23,200
Speaker 2: experience there. By the way, I was only there a month.

472
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,399
Speaker 2: Awesome experience. Loved all the coaches. Still talk to a

473
00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,639
Speaker 2: lot of them, but yeah, always really always a Packer.

474
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's interesting. Your experience in Atlanta was great, and

475
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:34,000
Speaker 1: you still communicate with them.

476
00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,240
Speaker 2: Dan Quinn was the head coach. I love that guy.

477
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:40,520
Speaker 2: Jeff Olbrick is now the Jets defensive coordinator where our

478
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,960
Speaker 2: buddy Aaron Rodgers is at, and Aaron loves Jeff. I

479
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:46,159
Speaker 2: knew Olbrick would enjoy having him there. He was the

480
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,399
Speaker 2: linebacker coach at the time in Atlanta, and I was

481
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:52,679
Speaker 2: there four games and they were awesome. I learned so

482
00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:54,720
Speaker 2: much and just really maybe it was just because I

483
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:56,240
Speaker 2: was old and I wasn't even playing it on playing

484
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 2: I was already doing working as like an analyst on

485
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,119
Speaker 2: FS one, doing some games by then. But they had

486
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,800
Speaker 2: a bunch of guys go down one week and tried

487
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,199
Speaker 2: to bring me in there, and maybe just because I

488
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,120
Speaker 2: was older and I knew, I was like, oh, this

489
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,440
Speaker 2: is like a really cool experience, and so I took

490
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,440
Speaker 2: a bunch of notes, tried to see how they ran things.

491
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,439
Speaker 2: It was just a cool like it was almost like

492
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,399
Speaker 2: watching like different ways, like hey, there's a lot of

493
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 2: different ways where you can lead and you can run

494
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 2: an organization or a team or how you interact, and

495
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 2: it was just really cool. They had a lot of

496
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 2: good people there. Kyle Shanahan was the offensive coordinator. I mean,

497
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,640
Speaker 2: it was littered with stars everywhere.

498
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,680
Speaker 1: I want to talk about the Packers for a little bit.

499
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,359
Speaker 1: Your greatest memory of being in Green Bay.

500
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:42,879
Speaker 2: I mean Super Bowl is tough to top that, it

501
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:47,479
Speaker 2: really is. But if being like weirdly not, I don't know,

502
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:52,399
Speaker 2: I'm not some I'm not into mystical crazy like getting

503
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 2: real deep talk or anything, but honestly, the coolest thing

504
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 2: about Green Bay and my wife and I this is

505
00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 2: the thing we missa just the people, like the guys

506
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,359
Speaker 2: and their wives and girlfriends and their kids. Like we

507
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 2: had a really special thing there for a long time.

508
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 2: We feel like we should have won more super Bowl

509
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,920
Speaker 2: It's no question, but especially that Super Bowl year. Man,

510
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,440
Speaker 2: our team was so close and we didn't We didn't

511
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 2: even know it at the time, but yeah, just looking back,

512
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,919
Speaker 2: just really special people that we still communicate with. My

513
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 2: wife still takes trips with Green Bay girls every single

514
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 2: year and we try to meet up as much as

515
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 2: we can, so I think the order we get, the

516
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 2: more we realize how special it was and kind of

517
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:29,679
Speaker 2: grow to appreciate that stuff.

518
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 1: I've said many times, if you don't have a team,

519
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 1: if you don't have a reason to hate Green Bay,

520
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 1: if you go to Green Bay, it's hard. It's really

521
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:44,680
Speaker 1: hard not to root for them, because the experience really

522
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:50,119
Speaker 1: is singular in all of sports. I'm gonna tell I'm

523
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,400
Speaker 1: gonna give one. There's many examples, but one, because I'm

524
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 1: talking to you. I was in Green Bay for a game,

525
00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 1: your dad, your brother, who I knew well from our

526
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 1: golfing days, and your dad was there. And now I

527
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,119
Speaker 1: don't want to I don't want to screw something else

528
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 1: up about your dad. But your dad bought a house, right,

529
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:16,159
Speaker 1: Your family bought one of the houses directly adjacent to

530
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 1: lambeau Field, essentially to stay in because they wanted to

531
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 1: come out and see games.

532
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 2: Right, yep. Yeah, when I got drafted, I was freshly new.

533
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 2: Hewed got married right before camp and I didn't even

534
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 2: know it, but yeah, he got the house and he said, we, well,

535
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 2: obviously I want to come to every game and I

536
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 2: want to bring friends, and I'm not going to do

537
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 2: that too. You're a new Hewed, Like, I'm not going

538
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,719
Speaker 2: to stay with you guys. And obviously, yeah, that was like,

539
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 2: I guess that was very nice of him, But it

540
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,400
Speaker 2: was like a he and my mom were in college again.

541
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,399
Speaker 2: They'd have different couples come up every weekend and have party,

542
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 2: like they had the greatest weekends for home games. It was.

543
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 2: It was a great idea.

544
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 1: So if you've never been, the houses are literally right

545
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 1: there next to the fairly small parking lot, and before

546
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 1: the game, you tailgate house to house, and really what

547
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 1: it is is garage to garage. There was one house

548
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 1: that I always go to that had literally had put

549
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 1: in a urinal like bathroom with a urinal in the

550
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 1: in the garage there and TVs everywhere. Your Dad's was

551
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 1: not as glamorous. I think when I was there, it

552
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 1: was minus eight degrees and we were on folding chairs

553
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 1: in the garage, in the garage that was not heated

554
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:35,640
Speaker 1: in any way. But we yes, we took a victory shot. Now,

555
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,719
Speaker 1: when did the victory shot start?

556
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 2: I don't even know the origin of when he started

557
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 2: doing it in Green Bay? Maybe I think really early

558
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 2: on in Green Bay. And it was always before the

559
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,639
Speaker 2: game though before it always gives a little toast and

560
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 2: it does his whole thing. Do you know what the

561
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 2: toast is? Do you know what the hot toast is?

562
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 1: I mean, I think I know what the toast is,

563
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 1: But again I'm now I'm nervous to mess up something

564
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:04,120
Speaker 1: else about Keith. It's really quick, play hard, play safe,

565
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 1: just win the fucking game.

566
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 2: There you go. And then he would slam his little

567
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 2: shot glass.

568
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 1: He would slam. He would take a shot and then

569
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 1: throw it onto the ground.

570
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:14,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was it. Yeah. I don't know how. I

571
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,880
Speaker 2: think it started early on in Green Bay, I guess yeah.

572
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, what an incredible thing for you to have your

573
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 1: family be able to be a part of that those

574
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 1: nine years in Green Bay and have that experience. Clearly

575
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 1: they they love it. Do they still have the house?

576
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,719
Speaker 2: No, they sold it shortly after my time was up.

577
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 2: They didn't have any trouble selling that thing. Yeah. It

578
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,360
Speaker 2: was only like two, like probably three streets over from Lambeau.

579
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 2: You could, I'm sure you could hit your driver and

580
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 2: hit Lambeau from their front yard if you could move

581
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 2: some trees. Yeah, no, for sure. How did you get

582
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,199
Speaker 2: on the when you when you came over to the

583
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 2: house and did the pregame victory shots. Did you coordinate

584
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 2: that with Ryan, my brother? I think that through I

585
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 2: think that was through your brother. Yeah. I was gonna say,

586
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 2: because all of a sudden, I'm I remember I was

587
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,159
Speaker 2: in the locker room, I think, and they sent me

588
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 2: a picture or sent me a video of you guys

589
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,919
Speaker 2: doing the shot. And what's Brian doing. I didn't even

590
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 2: know you were going. Yeah. No, so uh.

591
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:20,199
Speaker 1: For those of you who don't know, AJ is a

592
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:25,679
Speaker 1: fixture at the American Century championships, which we've talked a

593
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 1: lot about on this podcast. In beautiful Lake Tahoe. We're

594
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,679
Speaker 1: both gonna be there here in a couple of weeks,

595
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: and so we had gotten to know each other and

596
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 1: AJ's brother Ryan is AJ's caddy. I have a regular

597
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 1: caddy and Aaron had the same caddy and we would

598
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 1: have a caddy race on the seventeenth hole there and

599
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 1: I watched it fairly recently. Again it is still uh,

600
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 1: it's still entertaining.

601
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 2: There's like sixty yards of sand that they run through too.

602
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 2: That's the biggest thing. I think that's when their legs

603
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 2: start to burn trying to carry the bag and it

604
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 2: gets competitive, man, I know, especially year one that was

605
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 2: very competitive.

606
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a lot of fun. So yeah, So

607
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: I've gotten to know AJ's family and his wife there

608
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 1: as well. Excited to go back.

609
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, you're kidding me. Like it's it's amazing.

610
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 2: It makes me I don't play much like a whole

611
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 2: lot of golf, but because of Tahoe, it makes me

612
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 2: love go like I want I want to play, just

613
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 2: to get out there and try to not be horrendously

614
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 2: bad out there. So that's everything is geared towards Tahoe for.

615
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: Me me too. Uh do I owe you money? I

616
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 1: do not believe so well, Okay, I paid you. Okay,

617
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 1: AJ got me last year for sure.

618
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 2: I kept the ball in play more than I ever had. Man,

619
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 2: I don't know how I could. I'd have to punch

620
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 2: out like six hundred times each round this passion. I

621
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 2: still didn't play great, but I still I just put

622
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 2: the ball in play a little bit.

623
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: I want you to tell the story to everybody about

624
00:29:55,920 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 1: how it started. Aj AJ became a fixed You're in

625
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: tahole because there's a there are two very populated holes

626
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 1: in Lake Tahoe, a whole seven and whole seventeen. And

627
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 1: AJ started tackling a fan from the stands. Talk about

628
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 1: how that started in the first year, because all I

629
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 1: remember is you thinking you were going you.

630
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 2: Had killed the guy that was year two. I thought

631
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 2: he died. Year one was a great shot. It was

632
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 2: very clean shot. I could get the year too. Yeah.

633
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 2: So basically we're to seventh hole, like you said, we're

634
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 2: walking up to the tea box and my brother Ryan

635
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 2: is caddied for me every single year out there. And

636
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 2: that's how unbelievable that tournament in Lake Tahoe is that

637
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 2: he's like, someone's gonna have to kill me to get

638
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 2: me to not caddy for it. He just just he

639
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 2: didn't eve get hit any shots, but he just wants

640
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 2: to go. That's how cool the whole tournament is. But

641
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 2: we walk up to the tea box and there's a

642
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 2: group of guys, maybe ten dudes, bit rowdy, boozing, having

643
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 2: a great time, and oh, my brother, that Ryan looks

644
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 2: at me. He's like, hey man, this guy wants He

645
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 2: asked if you tackle him. And I looked at the

646
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 2: dude and he's a big guys like, all right, okay,

647
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 2: I guess yeah, why not? And I went, I like

648
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 2: put my shoulder directly into his ribs, like I hear

649
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 2: the breast go out. Oh like I could hear. It

650
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 2: was just the time. Whatever happened, it timed up where

651
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 2: everything just hit the right moment and it was a

652
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 2: good shot. It looked good. I didn't I thought I

653
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 2: was gonna rip my pants. I didn't rip my pants.

654
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 2: I didn't fall down. He went down. Then he gets

655
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 2: up and I hug him and everything's great, and then

656
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 2: I realized instant, I'm like, oh my god, like am

657
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 2: I gonna get kicked out of the tournament. I was like,

658
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 2: these guys, not, are they gonna let me even play

659
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 2: like that sucks? They might be pissed. And then the

660
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 2: next hole, I'm walking and I see a couple of

661
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 2: the you know, the big the big time people with

662
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 2: the NBC American Century everybody, and I was like, hey, man,

663
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 2: I'm sorry the guy asked me to do it. I

664
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 2: wasn't whatever, and they instantly said, no, were you kidding me?

665
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 2: That was great it Look we got it on video.

666
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 2: We're gonna run it tonight on NBC or NBC whatever.

667
00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh, thank goodness. And then I tackled

668
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 2: him for man, four or five years in a row.

669
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 2: And now it's funny, we've kind of like we started

670
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 2: we arm wrestled one year after that, like we're all

671
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 2: growing up, we're all getting old, I guess because now

672
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 2: their group has grown as well, like they've all there's

673
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 2: more and more people every year with their group and

674
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 2: the company they have, and then now it's it's hilarious.

675
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 4: Now.

676
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,479
Speaker 2: I just last year when I was out there, we

677
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 2: saw them and we just kind of we didn't do

678
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 2: anything it. I think it was the first year, we

679
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 2: didn't do anything like physical, no arm wrestling, no weird

680
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 2: bubble wrestling thing. We did one year. I didn't tackle him,

681
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,479
Speaker 2: I didn't hit him, and we're like, oh man, how

682
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 2: you doing. Like he's like cots of kids, and it's like, wow,

683
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 2: we're really we've grown up together. Like once a year

684
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 2: I see these people and I started going. I was

685
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 2: probably twenty five when I first started going. I'm almost

686
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 2: forty now. So yeah, like we've watched each other grow

687
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 2: up through this whole thing, and our bond of me

688
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 2: getting to tackle that guy.

689
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: Well, that's what is so special about that week, right,

690
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: I mean you and I getting to know each other.

691
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 1: They I mean just like odd couples. And I'm I'm

692
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 1: not I'm not even making a joke. You and this

693
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: guy that the relationships started by you tackling him and

694
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: almost killing him. The second year, it's so great. I

695
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 1: can't wait to be there.

696
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 2: You've been playing a lot too. I listened to the show.

697
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 2: I know you've been playing a lot. Well see how

698
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 2: you hitting it? Hitting good?

699
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 4: Right?

700
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 2: You probably scratch.

701
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 3: Now listen, I got here. I'll tell you this. I

702
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 3: got some clubs showing up today.

703
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 1: Are you a guy now or what I you know

704
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 1: what I am of course p XG man kaboom baby, kaboom. Yeah.

705
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 1: If you're gonna come at me, you better you better

706
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 1: get the best. That's all I'm saying I got this

707
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 1: year is you're actually now that you have ESPN money,

708
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: Maybe we double the bet this year, maybe we make

709
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 1: it a little more expensive.

710
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 2: Okay, all right? Oh was that an Okay, Yeah, I'm

711
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 2: in I'll do it all right the time. You're way

712
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 2: more consistent than.

713
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 1: You beat me last year. You beat me last year,

714
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 1: but you I remember paying you.

715
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 2: It was horrible. It was horrible. It was a great,

716
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 2: great night, it really knows it was. It was my

717
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 2: first time were finishing in the positive numbers. Ever, there

718
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 2: you go. So I need some strokes then, is what

719
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 2: I'm trying to say.

720
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 1: You won last All right, I'll say this is actually

721
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: it works exactly the opposite.

722
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:13,359
Speaker 3: You won last year.

723
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 2: I'm sure you hadn't off. I'm sure you got a

724
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 2: bunch of bad breaks and the ball bounced out of

725
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 2: bounds and things like that.

726
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 1: No, by the way, I do have to tell everyone this.

727
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: I'm sure they're bored of hearing of our golf but

728
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: let me tell you this, aj almost killed me once.

729
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 1: This is not this is not a joe.

730
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 4: Uh.

731
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 1: They've redone the course, the old number eight. I am

732
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 1: legitimately mid green, chipping out of the rough. I had

733
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 1: was not in the bunker there on the left, but

734
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,800
Speaker 1: I was just on top of it, and I am chipping,

735
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 1: and suddenly I hear and I was like, what the

736
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 1: what was that? And you were on the tee and

737
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,720
Speaker 1: had driven So this is where you have the advance

738
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,439
Speaker 1: that is not this is not a driveable par four,

739
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 1: by the way, but it was a par four that

740
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 1: you just got a hold of and it went in

741
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 1: the right direction, which sometimes for you it doesn't.

742
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 2: And you almost killed me sometimes. I mean, if I

743
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 2: would have known that, I'm sure we would have yelled for.

744
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 2: Did anyone yell for? Maybe they gave me the go ahead,

745
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 2: they said, hey, we're good to go. That's Unfortunately we've

746
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,240
Speaker 2: hit over the head of people in our group before.

747
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 2: Can you know if you can't see him, if they're

748
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 2: running over the little swell yet i'd something. I guess, patience,

749
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 2: you gotta just quit an extra beat.

750
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 1: You're reckless, You're reckless.

751
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 2: I disagree. I disagree you and Pa both.

752
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 3: Do you love what you're doing now?

753
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 4: I do.

754
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 2: I absolutely love what I'm doing now with Pat mcafeel

755
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 2: on the Pat on his show, The Pat McAfee Show,

756
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 2: five days a week. And I never really thought I

757
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 2: was going to commit to anything five days a week

758
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 2: like that consistent. Honestly, when I first got into like

759
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,479
Speaker 2: media stuff, I was doing a lot of serious XM

760
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 2: radio and yeah, doing like analysts work on games, traveling

761
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 2: to college games a lot.

762
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: So you were traveling with that, you were traveling to

763
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 1: games cover of years Fox Sports, Yeah.

764
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I did some a bunch of stuff from

765
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 2: the Conference USA games that I was doing for a

766
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 2: couple of years after that, different online stuff. And then

767
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 2: when I started getting doing work with Pat, and then

768
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 2: when I started going basically five days a week, probably

769
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 2: three years ago, I stopped going to games on weekends.

770
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 2: And my kids have gotten order and I'm already like

771
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 2: assistant coach on a lot of their teams and stuff,

772
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 2: so I can't weekends would be tough. I think if

773
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 2: I was gone for fourteen straight weekends.

774
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: Well, you're a smart guy, you're an engaging guy, but

775
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,720
Speaker 1: you know, this is a this is a hard business.

776
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 1: I know, oh to break into talk to me about

777
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 1: meeting Pat and how this came about to join as

778
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 1: a co host on the Pat McAfee show.

779
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 2: I mean, it was super organic. I don't even know

780
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 2: the first time he started his show. He had his

781
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 2: podcast first, when he was still playing for the Colts. Yeah,

782
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 2: and he asked me to come on. Now, were you friends? No? No,

783
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 2: I didn't even know each other. The first time we

784
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 2: really met in person actually when I was I was

785
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 2: on the Bengals for my one season with the Bengals,

786
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 2: he was on the Colts. We played a preseason game.

787
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 2: We were both captains that game, and that's like when

788
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 2: we officially, Oh hey, what's up?

789
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 4: Man?

790
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 2: Like I knew of him and what he was doing,

791
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 2: and then somehow we started. I came on a show

792
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 2: and it was awesome, you know he was. He's very

793
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 2: unique and super talented and smart and funny in different

794
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 2: way than anybody. So we kind of had a It

795
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 2: was always fun. I would keep I would come on

796
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 2: there every once in a while and ask me to

797
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 2: come on and be on for twenty thirty minutes and

798
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 2: enjoy it. Never thought anything of it. And then he

799
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 2: was with Barstool and they asked me to join he

800
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 2: and guy named Jerry Thornton for a podcast. We'd record

801
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 2: it every Sunday night after the Sunday night football game

802
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 2: and we would just recap and talk about all the

803
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 2: games that happened that day. Honestly, we really enjoyed it.

804
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 2: I loved it. It was really fun. And then after

805
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 2: that I would go on a show a little bit.

806
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know, once every couple of weeks maybe,

807
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 2: and then right before, right as COVID hit, I was like, man,

808
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:21,240
Speaker 2: we should do something, like everything's shutting down, there's no sports,

809
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 2: there's nothing. We should do something more consistently. And then

810
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 2: after that he would go live on YouTube and I

811
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 2: would join him. It's called McAfee and Hawk Sports Talk,

812
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 2: and that's how it all started. I did it like

813
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 2: three days a week, and that eventually became five days

814
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,240
Speaker 2: a week. And now yeah, and it's awesome, h Paton.

815
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,359
Speaker 2: You got to know the boys, and it's just how

816
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:46,240
Speaker 2: it's where it is now is ridiculous, Like it's bizarre,

817
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 2: and it's the most fun I've ever had by far

818
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 2: doing anything. When it comes to I guess you could

819
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,800
Speaker 2: call it in the media job it's not for me.

820
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,760
Speaker 2: It's yeah, it's fun, it's really fun.

821
00:38:56,280 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: Well, it is entertainment. It's groundbreaking in a lot of ways,

822
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 1: and not surprising. The number of viewers and subscribers five

823
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: days a week on YouTube is over two million people.

824
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 1: The latest reports I heard is that you personally have

825
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 1: a one hundred million dollar contract a year at ESPN

826
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 1: the next twenty years. You got some good sources, Brian,

827
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: which is really impressive. That you have managed to take

828
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: this little, this little side job and turn it into

829
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: an empire is incredible. I was going down the rabbit

830
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: hole about all of the information about the contract and oh,

831
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 1: there's all kind of I know, it very entertaining. Are

832
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 1: you excited? Just announced in May you guys are going

833
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:56,240
Speaker 1: to be moving to the original mothership ESPN, same show,

834
00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 1: but no bad words. That's that's no eff company, just words,

835
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:02,879
Speaker 1: just no F word.

836
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 2: And then Pat offered that up to them as like

837
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 2: a negotiation, not a negotiation, as like goodwill, like hey,

838
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 2: won't say the F word, try not to say it

839
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 2: as much, but everything else is out there, and they, yeah,

840
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 2: they want the show, they want us to do the

841
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 2: real show. And he Pat was talking to a bunch

842
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 2: of different people on where to take it or where

843
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 2: you could go with it, And that was always his

844
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 2: first thing from the jump, like you don't have any

845
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 2: you have no creative control over this. He's always had

846
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 2: complete ownership of it. And that's how it is going there.

847
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 2: And it's gonna be on from noon to two on

848
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 2: ESPN like the big ESPN, the main main deal, and

849
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 2: it'll be yeah, and then we'll keep going on YouTube

850
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 2: after that twelve to two times.

851
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 1: Now will you will you be on from twelve to two?

852
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 1: Are you still going to come in an hour late?

853
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,720
Speaker 1: I know that's a good question. That's what's cool funny

854
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 1: about the show. We don't it's pretty uh spontaneous. We

855
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 1: don't sit there and draw out a box and B

856
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: block and C block and do all this stuff. It's

857
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 1: very organic and it's very like instan off our instincts.

858
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,439
Speaker 1: So yeah, there's still a bunch we haven't even really

859
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,879
Speaker 1: thought about that. We'll figure out here in the next

860
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 1: month or two. I mean, I was thinking about this

861
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: knowing I was going to talk to you today. You're

862
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 1: like smart, like a fox. Everybody else is in studio

863
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 1: looking at Pat with his cut off. What do you

864
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 1: call them tank top shirts on roaming around, pacing back

865
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:30,240
Speaker 1: and forth and guess where AJ is AJ is in Columbus, Ohio.

866
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 1: How in the world is that?

867
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 3: Just?

868
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 1: So here's what I thought. What I thought was, tell

869
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 1: me if I'm right that it was the start of

870
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 1: COVID and that's just that became what you did and

871
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 1: then you just stuck with it or did you just

872
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 1: say I'm not leaving Yo?

873
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 2: It was it was COVID. I'm here like I knew, Like,

874
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 2: there's no way I was. I have four kids, we

875
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 2: built a house in Columbus well a while ago, and yeah,

876
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 2: there's no I mean, it would be if I could

877
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 2: be in studio every day with everybody. It's awesome and

878
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 2: it's very fun in studio, it's just not possible for

879
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 2: me and I drive there during the season. Since Pat's

880
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 2: on game day as well, he leaves Friday mornings, I'll

881
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 2: drive in every Friday during the season. I'll drive to

882
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 2: Indianapolis and go host a show from studio while Pat

883
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 2: comes onto the show from the game day set. So

884
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 2: I'll do that every Friday, and then unfortunately, the only

885
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 2: time I'm really even at when I go to India

886
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 2: I'm at the studio is when Pat's out of town basically,

887
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 2: so it's fun when I can actually get there and

888
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 2: we're in studio and we do stuff together, that's when

889
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 2: we obviously we love that, right, you know? It was funny.

890
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 1: I was doing some research here and I went on

891
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,479
Speaker 1: the YouTube for the Pat McAfee show, and I saw,

892
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 1: like two days ago, there was a screenshot. It was

893
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 1: the same, the same exact picture, and I thought, oh,

894
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: did they upload the wrong video on both No, you guys,

895
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 1: you were just wearing the same thing. You guys, don't

896
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 1: You don't think about wardrobe there at the Pat McAfee show.

897
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 2: No, it's very I guess you could say I'm simple

898
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 2: like that. And I used to try. I used to

899
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,879
Speaker 2: wear different different shirts or whatever, and then Pat would

900
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 2: always wear his black tank top. And so for the

901
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 2: last year or two, I don't know, I have like

902
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 2: four or five shirts that I wear on the show.

903
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,800
Speaker 2: They're all either a black long sleeve or a hoodie.

904
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, he goes that's true. He goes color. Sometimes he's

905
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:23,280
Speaker 1: got a purple one that really pops everyone's.

906
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 2: While he does have a colorful one, but yeah, no,

907
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 2: his go to is a black tank top everyone he

908
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 2: wore T shirts for I don't know, a couple of

909
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 2: weeks stretch there. He thought he was gonna wear T

910
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 2: shirts and he couldn't do it. He didn't like it.

911
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:36,280
Speaker 1: I guess interesting. I got to ask you, I'm curious

912
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,359
Speaker 1: about this with the change over to ESPN. You know

913
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,800
Speaker 1: we're not You're not going to change anything except except

914
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 1: the use of the F word. Has anyone talked to

915
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 1: you about your signature prop?

916
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 3: I guess what do you mean?

917
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 2: The cigar?

918
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 4: Oh?

919
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 2: No issues? That's another good question, Brian, that's another great question. No,

920
00:43:56,360 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 2: no one said anything to me, bully me. I enjoy it. Well,

921
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 2: keep me focused, keep me focused? Is that right? Well?

922
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 2: I'm a naturally like I can get, you know, off

923
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 2: track if it gives me something to do. I'm not

924
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 2: fidgeting like I'm a fidgitor kind of always doing something

925
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 2: look around, And that definitely keeps me locked in. And

926
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 2: I enjoy it. And it's really the only time I

927
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 2: smoke cigars is on the show. Really, it feels right

928
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 2: to when I'm doing the show to have a cigar

929
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 2: and I'm like, yeah, I don't. It's definitely not a prop.

930
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 2: It's not a gimmick. I should say it's yeah, I

931
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 2: know it just turned into it.

932
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 1: I didn't mean a gimmick. I really literally meant a prop.

933
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: And what you just said to me is actually that

934
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:42,919
Speaker 1: is a huge actor trick. Really, Yeah, that you if

935
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: you have a prop, you have something to focus some

936
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 1: of your energy on. I'll tell you James Spader. I mean,

937
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 1: I don't know if he would like me saying this

938
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: or if he even agrees, but I used to watch

939
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 1: James Spader, and I mean he he knew how to

940
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: work a spiral notebook. No, I mean he yeah, I

941
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 1: mean when he's going to open it or close it

942
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: or write something, or how he holds it, you know,

943
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 1: how he would hold it in his hand, and he

944
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 1: would think about all of these. I mean he worked

945
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 1: props better than any actor I've ever seen. I will

946
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 1: say that. So it actually makes a lot of sense

947
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,359
Speaker 1: what you're saying, that you have this cigar you can

948
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 1: go to if you need a moment to think or

949
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,240
Speaker 1: process or yeah, makes a lot of sense.

950
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 2: And it's always it's like anything like smoking's like it's

951
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 2: about like it's a whole process. I gotta you know,

952
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 2: I cut it. I got it sometimes everyone's very particular.

953
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 2: I stab it a bunch if you feel like the

954
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 2: poll is not enough and all that. So I enjoy it.

955
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 2: I definitely enjoy it. And it keeps me. It does

956
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 2: kind of keep me on track, I really think. So.

957
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: It's interesting, though. I wonder if the Mothership is going

958
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: to say anything about that.

959
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:48,800
Speaker 2: Man, I don't know.

960
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 1: I'm just bringing these things up. I don't know, it'll

961
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 1: be interesting. I can't really thought about that. I can't

962
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:59,320
Speaker 1: wait to see the transition. I can't wait. And I hope, God,

963
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 1: you've been so successful. I hope you just stick with it.

964
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 1: I hope it is the same. I really do. We will. Yeah,

965
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: I think padd will make it the same. Yeah, I

966
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: agree with you.

967
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 2: It's gonna have to be What do you mean it's

968
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 2: gonna I don't think we know any anything else.

969
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 1: Well, well, that's a great point. You're a smart guy.

970
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 1: You're not fooling me. You're a smart guy. But yeah,

971
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 1: I get it. There's well, there's a reason it works.

972
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's authentic. It's real. No one's there's no plan.

973
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 2: We're just there. We're just doing it, having fun.

974
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 1: You're just doing it just like you're playing football. Take

975
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,359
Speaker 1: it a play at a time, take it a month

976
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: at a time. That's the game at a time, a

977
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 1: year at a time.

978
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 4: Man.

979
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, so smart. Helpful for golf too.

980
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 2: By the way, be dumber. We've got to be dumber

981
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 2: on the golf course. Yeah, be dumber. I'm not mentioning

982
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 2: any names.

983
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 1: Playing football or what you're doing. Now, what do you

984
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 1: get more joy from?

985
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 2: That's a good question. That's a very good question. I

986
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 2: mean football, anyone I'd played. I'd played football until I

987
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 2: was dead, if you could, I mean, I but I

988
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 2: understand the game my body do. I understand you can't physically.

989
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 2: But yeah, football is awesome, man. But now, I mean

990
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,280
Speaker 2: what I'm doing now, like I would my technically my job.

991
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 2: With what I do with Pat, I hope to do

992
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 2: it for the next one hundred years. Honestly, I love it,

993
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 2: I really do.

994
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so great. I'm so happy for you. I

995
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 1: mean again, where we started, AJ Like Pat had had

996
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:36,320
Speaker 1: the podcast before you even retired, so you were thinking ahead,

997
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 1: my friend.

998
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was just I was a fan of other

999
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 2: podcasts too, and I didn't I did know that I

1000
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 2: wanted to do something in the media where whatever that

1001
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 2: might be. But I honestly from being a fan of

1002
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 2: listening to podcasts, that's what made me start my own,

1003
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 2: and I knew, yeah, this is also it's a way

1004
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 2: you can reach out and speak to cool people like

1005
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 2: it's hey, come on, brob, you want to come on

1006
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 2: my podcast? Like that's it, and always like wow, they're

1007
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 2: actually the actually here, like this is cool. I'm actually

1008
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 2: doing this so early on especially, and that's yeah, I'm

1009
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:08,399
Speaker 2: glad I did it. I'm not like a super I'm

1010
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 2: not naturally an outgoing dude that just talks all the time.

1011
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,439
Speaker 2: That's not who I am. But I definitely talk way

1012
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 2: more now than I did when I was in high

1013
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 2: school or college, that's for sure.

1014
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 1: Well, you're on one of the largest sports entertainment shows

1015
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 1: in the world right now, or at least in the

1016
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 1: United States. That alone makes you an expert. There are

1017
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 1: four teams in the AFC East. List them in the

1018
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,439
Speaker 1: order that they're going to finish the season this year.

1019
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 2: Come on, now, I'm not doing predictions. I can't prea

1020
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:39,800
Speaker 2: to predictions yet. It's early.

1021
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 1: That's why I said, But I'm talking to you now,

1022
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 1: how are the Jets going to be?

1023
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 2: How about that? I mean, the Jets should be awesome,

1024
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 2: don't you think they? Before Aaron got there, they had

1025
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 2: a really really good team. And now Aaron's there, So

1026
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 2: let's see how far I can go, man, I mean

1027
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 2: that's what I think. It's gonna be very interesting. Does

1028
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 2: it worry you that everything seems to be so awesome

1029
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 2: and so positive now and everyone everyone's so happy? Does

1030
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:10,280
Speaker 2: that scare you?

1031
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 3: No?

1032
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 1: I'm just interested to see how it plays out.

1033
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 2: You know, Okay? If I did? Yeah, I mean, of

1034
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:17,439
Speaker 2: course I would pick the Jets to win the ANFC East,

1035
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 2: wouldn't you. I mean, there's a lot of good teams

1036
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 2: over there. There's a lot of good teams over there.

1037
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 2: Who would you pick? Okay? Are the Dolphins? No, you're

1038
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 2: gonna say that. I think everyone's saying the Patriots are

1039
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 2: gonna come in last, aren't they? Yeah?

1040
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 1: East, that would be that would be general consensus.

1041
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, then probably you'd probably I mean, yeah, Jets, Bill's Dolphins,

1042
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 2: Patriots or I would imagine a lot of people would

1043
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 2: do or they go Bill's Jets? Maybe? Yeah? Are you

1044
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 2: gonna go to some games?

1045
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 1: New York Dolphins are are unknown? Look, I hope to

1046
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 1: go back to Green Bay and maybe check out New York.

1047
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm gonna go everywhere this year. Yeah,

1048
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go everywhere. You said, you're a packer. You

1049
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 1: still root for Green Bay?

1050
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll never not root for him. But it does

1051
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 2: feel different without Aaron there. It will feel different, no question.

1052
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 2: But yeah, all my all the people that keep be

1053
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 2: connected to the Packers are still there. And they're the

1054
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 2: equipment staff, the training staff, doctors, all those people that

1055
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 2: don't turn over, like coaches and everyone else.

1056
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a special place, man, it's a it's a

1057
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 1: special place, you know. I have, over the last couple

1058
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 1: of years, done some hosting on Good Morning Football, and

1059
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 1: I am jealous of what you get to do now.

1060
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: The time that I spend over there, I love it.

1061
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 1: I love hanging out and talking about sports.

1062
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 2: It's fun, right.

1063
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, But they're not gonna let they They won't let

1064
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 1: me sit in my what does Pat always say, in

1065
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:47,800
Speaker 1: your library above your garage or your loft or whatever

1066
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 1: he says. Yeah, yeah, they're not gonna let They're not

1067
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 1: gonna let me do that.

1068
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:53,839
Speaker 2: I don't know though they might you could, especially now

1069
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 2: that now it's normal to have remote stuff on big

1070
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,839
Speaker 2: time Network TV, Like there's people that are doing full

1071
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 2: shows from addicts like this. So that's luckily the timing

1072
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 2: worked out for me too to be able to stay.

1073
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 1: Here, right, That's what I figured, dude. I'm so happy

1074
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: for you and your success. Just one of the great guys,

1075
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 1: and I feel so lucky to call you and consider

1076
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 1: you a friend. And I'm just so happy for you

1077
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 1: and the success that you have had with Pat on

1078
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 1: that show. And I know you guys are just gonna

1079
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:32,800
Speaker 1: kill it on ESPN. So congratulations, it's awesome.

1080
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 2: Thank you, man, I do I really really appreciate that.

1081
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Speaker 2: It's the connections you make from playing in the deal

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Speaker 2: in Tahoe, playing in the golf in anyone. I'm sure

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Speaker 2: people break get annoyed listening to people talk about Tahoe,

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Speaker 2: but it's like, yeah, it's sorry, Bud, like it's it's awesome,

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Speaker 2: but just it's the people. It's everybody. All the guys

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Speaker 2: and girls that play in the event are cool because

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Speaker 2: if you're a douche, they don't invite you back, Like

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Speaker 2: if you're a turd and they don't, you don't come back.

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Speaker 2: And that's the thing. So everybody's like, man, this is

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Speaker 2: really cool. I want to come back next year and

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Speaker 2: that's what I've been doing for like twelve years.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really fun. I can't wait. July fourteenth through

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Speaker 1: the sixteenth on various NBC, my Mothership networks and sports

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Speaker 1: stations and on the mother Ship I know on Saturday

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Speaker 1: and Sunday. Check it out AJ Hawk, myself and many

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Speaker 1: many more.

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Speaker 2: AJ.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to see you and give you a

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Speaker 1: hug and maybe have a beverage and tons of laughs

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Speaker 1: and the normal bet, the normal bet. I'm making the

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Speaker 1: normal bet right now. I'll see you. I'll see you

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Speaker 1: really soon. AJ, thanks for coming on.

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Speaker 2: Great seeing you brides appreciate it. I'm a fan of

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Speaker 2: the show obviously. Thank you for having me on. Man

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Speaker 2: appreciate it. Kim not wait to see you in Tahoe.

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Speaker 1: AJ, You're the best, and more importantly, you always make

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Speaker 1: me laugh, so thank you for that.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for the packer love.

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Speaker 2: That's what she said.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that even works, but AJ, thank

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Speaker 1: you for coming on today. Listeners, you can find AJ

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Speaker 1: on Yeah, the Pat McAfee show. He and Pat are incredible.

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Speaker 1: Be sure to check them out. And as always, you

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Speaker 1: know where I'll be this time next week.

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Speaker 3: That's right sitting right.

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Speaker 1: Here in your drums lobes.

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Speaker 3: I'm in your ears.

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Speaker 2: I'll see you next week.

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Speaker 1: Off the Beat is hosted and executive produced by me

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Speaker 1: Brian Baumgartner, alongside our executive producer Ling Lee. Our senior

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Speaker 1: producer is Diego Tapia. Our producers are Liz Hayes, Hannah Harris,

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Speaker 1: and Emily Carr. Our talent producer is Ryan Papa Zachary,

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Speaker 1: and our intern is Thomas Olsen. Our theme song Bubble

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