1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Oh, welcome in our number two Clay 3 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 1: Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out 4 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: with us as we roll through the program. A lot 5 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: to discuss, including the fact that we are on the 6 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: eve of the Is it the fourth Now I'm starting 7 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: to lose track. I think it's the fourth Republican primary debate, 8 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: right It'll be taking place in Tuscolosa, Alabama. Our friend 9 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: Megan Kelly is going to be the primary primary moderator 10 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 1: for that debate. I think she'll do a fantastic job. 11 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 1: And I think my one advice on moderation would be 12 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 1: when conflict flares, steer into it. So we will see 13 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: how that all goes. I'm sure we'll be breaking it 14 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 1: down for you a lot tomorrow. But I teased as 15 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: we went to break the fact that Liz Cheney has 16 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: got a new book out, and I honestly, and I 17 00:00:56,560 --> 00:01:03,319 Speaker 1: mean this completely honestly, who read Liz Cheney's book? I mean, 18 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: I understand there are people out there who find her 19 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 1: to be a convenient foil for Trump, and so she 20 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: is the good Republican and she runs around and they 21 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: pat her on her head. She gets trounced in Wyoming. 22 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: She has no political future, and now she's writing a 23 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 1: book and she's selling something that I think. 24 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 2: Media should call out. 25 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: Honestly, no matter what side of the aisle, you're on 26 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: the idea that we are not going to have elections, 27 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: and this is Remember was that Michael Beschlows I think 28 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: buck who was the Who's the historian? And I've read 29 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:44,479 Speaker 1: some of his books and now I wish I had 30 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: it because he's so much of a hypochondriac in the 31 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: modern society. I believe he said if Republicans win the 32 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two election, maybe we can go grab this 33 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: on MSNBC, basically that they would be lining up firing 34 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: squads and just randomly killing people. And you've seen was 35 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: it our buddy Joe Scarborough who said that Trump, if 36 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: he wins election, is going to be executing people. And 37 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: now Liz Cheney and I believe we have the audio 38 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: from Liz Cheney and our roster here. Liz Cheney is 39 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: now saying if Trump wins election, wins the election, there 40 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 1: will be no more elections, which is such a flagrantly 41 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: I think crazy lie that it has to be called out. 42 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 1: And a part of me thinks that she's smart enough 43 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 1: because she's got a book coming out, that she's just 44 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 1: desperate to get attention. But this is so indefensible to me, 45 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: whether you're a Democrat, Republican, whatever, to say if the 46 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: person wins who I don't want to win, there will 47 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: be no more elections in America is just frankly indefensible. 48 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: Here's what she said. 49 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 3: A vote for Donald Trump may mean the last election 50 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 3: that you ever get to vote in. And again, I 51 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 3: don't say that lightly. I think is heartbreaking that that's 52 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 3: where we are. But people have to recognize that a 53 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 3: vote for Donald Trump is a vote against the Constitution. 54 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 4: I mean, as much as Biden is a buffoon and 55 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 4: the authoritarian tendencies of the Democrat Party during COVID, we're 56 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 4: on display for all and everything else. 57 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 2: Notice how we don't sit here saying. 58 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 5: If Biden wins the election, the country's over. If Biden 59 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 5: gets four more years, everything. 60 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 4: You know, what a bunch of cry babies. And I 61 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 4: know she's technically a Republican, but she's really a Democrat. 62 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 4: What you end up seeing is that people who go 63 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:40,119 Speaker 4: full anti Trump basically always end up as Democrats. I'm 64 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 4: not saying that means you can't want someone else the primary, 65 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 4: of course that's totally fine. But I mean people that 66 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 4: just hate Trump, hated his four years, hate everything about him, 67 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 4: they tend to become Democrats. That's what ends up happening. 68 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 4: And the hysteria that has created your Clay, I mean, 69 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 4: whether it's Morning Joe or Liz Cheney or any of 70 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 4: these individuals who are out there making this case, I 71 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 4: think it's because it creates a false, unbreakable self righteousness 72 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 4: for the left going into this election where they don't 73 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 4: even have to psychologically and emotionally, they don't even have 74 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 4: to engage with Joe Biden's a terrible president, Joe Biden 75 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 4: is bad for all the things that matter in this country. 76 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 4: That he's corrupt, that he's obviously in declining cognition, that 77 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 4: he's too old. They don't have to deal with any 78 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 4: of that because they just go it's about the threats 79 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 4: to our democracy, and that's all they think they have 80 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 4: to deal with. 81 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 1: And also it's a slippery slope where there is no 82 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 1: end to the slope. Can you think I guess maybe 83 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 1: Kathy Griffin would be someone who actually suffered consequences for 84 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: being too far anti Trump when she held up a 85 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 1: what was supposed to be like a severed head of Trump, 86 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: other than actually crosses over clay into possible you know, 87 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 1: federal assassination threat. 88 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 4: Right now, you can't make threats against the president. 89 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 1: But in general, can you think of someone whose career 90 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 1: was hurt by being too anti Trump? I mean I 91 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: had to go all the way to Kathy Griffin in 92 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: my head to even think of someone in a media world. 93 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 1: Was there anyone who lost career opportunities or emerged from 94 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 1: the Trump presidency in a worse position because they were 95 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 1: too anti Trump? I can't think of anyone in media. 96 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:31,679 Speaker 1: I mean I'm curious. 97 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 4: In fact, one of the really troubling lessons of the 98 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 4: whole Russia collusion debacle which just you know, a little 99 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,359 Speaker 4: trip down memory lane everybody, or a little bit of 100 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 4: a trauma here. But uh, that was the biggest news 101 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 4: story in the world for about three years. Yes, the 102 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 4: single biggest news story from twenty sixteen to twenty nineteen, 103 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 4: or through twenty nineteen to the beginning of COVID was 104 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 4: Trump Russia collusion. More Front page stories than New York Times, 105 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 4: more front page storys of Washington Post, more time on 106 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:09,119 Speaker 4: CNN by far than any other story. And the entire 107 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 4: thing was a hoax. And why is that interesting or 108 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 4: why am I bringing this up now? Well, Clay, to 109 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 4: your point about did anyone suffer? People built careers on that. Yes, 110 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 4: people got pullet serprizes, people elevated themselves, built an audience, 111 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 4: and nobody cared when all was said and done that 112 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 4: the people who were saying. 113 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 5: We're going to have smoking gun evidence of Trump and 114 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 5: the Kremlin and all this. 115 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 4: Stuff was all lies and they knew it was lie. 116 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 4: They knew it was all lies. Yeah, and it's not 117 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:41,559 Speaker 4: just that this, This is my biggest fear. Everybody wants 118 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 4: to be terrified. 119 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 1: Liz Cheney says, you're not going to be able to 120 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 1: vote in ever again if Trump wins again. 121 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 2: We said yesterday on the show, and I'll reiterate it. 122 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 1: I will bet Liz Cheney one million dollars. I'll put 123 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: the cash out somewhere that we will have elections in 124 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: twenty twenty six if Donald Trump is elected. Pro isn't it, 125 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: And I'll double down on that. We will have an 126 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: election in twenty twenty eight too. 127 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 2: So I'll I'll. 128 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: Bet a million on twenty twenty six elections occurring, and 129 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: I'll double down that we'll have a presidential election in 130 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: twenty twenty eight and that Trump is not going to 131 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: try to say I'm president for life, and moreover, that 132 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: people would listen, right, I mean, is it one of 133 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: the lessons of everything surrounding Trump that even if Trump 134 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: makes arguments that are threatening, lots of other people actually 135 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: stand up to Trump and say, no, we don't think 136 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: that's the right decision. I mean, that's a big part 137 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: of everything that happened after twenty twenty, right, Like, I 138 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: think the election was rigged, and I think a lot 139 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: of Republicans do, But there were still a lot of 140 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: Republicans who said no, based on you know, the way 141 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: the courts have ruled and everything else. 142 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 2: Biden's going to be sworn in. 143 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: There wasn't some massive group of Republicans in office who 144 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: were trying to ensure that Trump never had to leave office. 145 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 4: I think that, if anything, one of the more valid 146 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 4: criticisms of Trump's first term is that he was often 147 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 4: entirely willing to compromise and triangulate on issues that he 148 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 4: did the First Step Act, for example, which now people 149 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 4: call the Jail Break Act, right, and he did this 150 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 4: out of good intentions, I understand, and the right was 151 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 4: largely on board with him. A lot of people are like, oh, 152 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 4: we're locking everybody up for like having a little bit 153 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 4: of marijuana. That's actually not really what was going on. 154 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 4: But or you look at the way that anytime there 155 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 4: was a universal injunction from any federal judge anywhere in 156 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 4: the country, no matter how much of a lunatic they 157 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 4: were and how unconstitutional their dic top may have been, 158 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 4: Trump said, all right, we'll see you in court. That 159 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 4: was his response. It wasn't yeah, you know, forget you. 160 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 4: I'm the one who controls the executive branch. I got 161 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 4: all the guys with the guns. We're just gonna do 162 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 4: what I say. So we've already run the we've already 163 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 4: ran the experiment. If we've already seen what a Trump 164 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 4: presidency when he is president would be. And it wasn't 165 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 4: fascistic at all, and it actually was more moderate in 166 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 4: policy than I think a lot of people on the 167 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 4: right wanted it to be. And you know, we didn't 168 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 4: get the full wall. Don't start yelling at me. But 169 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 4: we've got a lot of wall, I know, but we 170 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 4: didn't get the full wall. I mean, there's unfinished business. 171 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 2: I think there's so many interesting things here too. 172 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,719 Speaker 1: Buck about the Hitler argument, you and I have had 173 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: a lot of opportunity to be around Donald Trump. The 174 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: idea that I think there's a clip in there of 175 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: Jonah Goldberg saying if Trump were Hitler, he would have 176 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: repealed Obamacare. I mean, which is a funny line. But 177 00:09:55,480 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 1: Trump is like a super nice guy. I mean, sorry, 178 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: The idea that Trump is some evil. 179 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 2: Sinister, I mean, this. 180 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: Is one of the great untruths that I have ever seen. 181 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 1: And the idea that, after you've already had one term 182 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: where COVID happened, none of us have ever lived through 183 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:34,839 Speaker 1: a time when a president could have unless you were 184 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: alive in World War two, none of us have ever 185 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:42,599 Speaker 1: lived through a time when a president had more opportunity 186 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: to take executive power and do with it whatever he would. 187 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 2: What did Trump do during COVID. 188 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: He deferred to every governor and every mayor and let 189 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 1: them make their own choices about COVID, such that I 190 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: think many of you out there listening right now would say, 191 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 1: Trump actually didn't take enough power during COVID because a 192 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 1: lot of the lockdown states and the lockdown cities were unjustified. 193 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 1: But that was the ultimate test on how much power 194 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: did Trump want to take. He could have taken power 195 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 1: the likes of which none of us have most of 196 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 1: us have ever lived through. And Trump's natural inclination was 197 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: to let federalism rule. 198 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 4: There's a foundational fallacy in this Trump the fascist argument 199 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 4: as well, which we've laid out some of the points 200 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 4: that you can make on this, but it all comes 201 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 4: back to January sixth was an insurrection to overthrow the 202 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 4: United States government led by Trump, and that is just 203 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 4: not true. It was not an insurrection. There was no 204 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 4: plan to overthrow the government. Trump was not in on 205 00:11:56,120 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 4: the overthrowing of the government. And that is the that 206 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 4: is the sort of ignition point of the hysteria. Now 207 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 4: that's what that's what Liz Channing does, Others saying, oh, 208 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:08,839 Speaker 4: but look look at January sixth. Yeah, not only was 209 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 4: January six not an insurrection. Remember they didn't storm the 210 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 4: Capitol with with you know, assault rifles and take hostages. 211 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 4: And that's what insurrections look like in other countries just so. 212 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 4: I mean, there are insurrections that happen, and it's when 213 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 4: people use force to decapitate the government and replace it 214 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 4: with something else. I mean, you watch those videos released 215 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 4: from January sixth where people are walking around inside Capitol 216 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 4: police are like hey, like kind of waving people this way. 217 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:40,319 Speaker 2: Picture also post on social media pictures to post on selfies. 218 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 4: There's a guy with like the bear hat and the 219 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 4: horns or whatever walking around, or you know, the Viking 220 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 4: hat and the horns, you know, QAnon shaman or whatever. 221 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 4: And I understand there are people who punch police officers. 222 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 4: That's wrong, that's illegal. They shouldn't do that. But they're 223 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 4: BLM riders punching police officers, throwing bottles of yurin at them, 224 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 4: trying to blind them with lasers. 225 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 2: They did this four. 226 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 4: Months, by the thousands, and none of them were hunted 227 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,079 Speaker 4: down by the FBI six months or ten months or 228 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 4: two years later and treated like they were Osama bin laden. 229 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 4: And that's what's happened to January sixth protesters. So you know, 230 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 4: it just turns into hysteria. Pile the top, hysteria, lies 231 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 4: the top lies, and. 232 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 2: You're gonna see more of this. 233 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 4: I mean, the twenty twenty four election is going to 234 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 4: be the most overheated and politically hysterical, you know, and 235 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 4: not in a funny way, but in a you know, 236 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 4: full of hysteria way the contest that we've ever seen. 237 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 2: And it's because of so many of. 238 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 4: These of these lies that are still told and that 239 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 4: I think have been internalized by many of the biggest 240 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 4: forces and voices in the Democrat Party. And like I said, 241 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 4: it's their justification for everything. We're gonna say, you're trying 242 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:47,559 Speaker 4: to lock up Donald Trump, They're gonna. 243 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 2: Say he deserves it. The insurrection, Oh my gosh. 244 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 4: They are out of their minds. And you know, look, 245 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 4: people are frustrated these days too, and I get it 246 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 4: because when the Biden economy stinks and everything is more expensive. 247 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 4: So they're trying to tell you right now, and they're 248 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 4: gonna tell you a lot more in twenty twenty four. 249 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 2: Oh, we're gonna bring. 250 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 4: Costs down and maybe the interest rates will come down. 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I'm gonna take you down a 281 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 4: little trip through memory lane here for a seconds, because 282 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 4: while Liz Cheney is saying that our democracy will be 283 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 4: destroyed or our republic will end, YadA, YadA, et cetera, 284 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 4: et cetera, unless we defeat Donald Trump, here she was. 285 00:15:55,160 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 4: This was back when Rush was, of course the EiV host, 286 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 4: the guy getting it all done. But here he is 287 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 4: talking to Liz Cheney back in twenty sixteen. 288 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 2: A little throwback for you. 289 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 6: Play Fresh and Wyoming. There is no question for us 290 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 6: that Hillary Clinton would be devastating and far far worse 291 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 6: than Donald Trump. And we've got to unify behind him 292 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 6: and make sure Hillary Clinton's not elected. I mean, she 293 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 6: is a felon. 294 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 4: Well interesting, she actually technically isn't a fellon, although she 295 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 4: should be many times over. But Clay, it's just the 296 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 4: exaggerations and the extreme. Oh my gosh, it's all over 297 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 4: if I don't get my way in politics. At some 298 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 4: point it feels, I would hope to people it just 299 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 4: comes across as childish, or it should come across to 300 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 4: the emotionally stable as childish. 301 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: In the last segment, Michael Bechelo's of him saying, well, 302 00:16:58,320 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: we'll play that. 303 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 2: In the we'll play that in the next segments. 304 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: A little bit long, but I do think it is 305 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 1: perfectly emblematic of how much they've lost their minds. And 306 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: that is great that Liz Cheney was on with Rush saying, 307 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: oh my goodness, we have to be all in on 308 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 1: uh on Trump, and by the way, should also mention 309 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 1: as we continue to mention for the last you know, 310 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: several months at the primary season have been playing out. 311 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:26,959 Speaker 1: Rush never endorsed anyone in a primary, and there's this 312 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: everybody kind of forgets. 313 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 2: I know many of you out there listening. 314 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 1: No, because the power of this show is so substantial 315 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 1: that weighing in in a Republican primary on behalf of 316 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 1: a particular candidate through these airwaves he thought was inappropriate. 317 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 2: So everybody wants to argue, oh. 318 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: Rush would have been all in on Trump, or Rush 319 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 1: would have been all in on DeSantis, Rush would have 320 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: been sitting back waiting to see what you, all of 321 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 1: the American people would have voted for, and then he 322 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:56,199 Speaker 1: would have done what we're going to do, which is 323 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 1: be all in to fight as hard as we can 324 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:02,360 Speaker 1: for whomever than nominee ends up being to. 325 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:05,120 Speaker 2: Make sure that we go ahead and fight our white riot. 326 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 2: Now we were just talking about the economy. 327 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 4: There's obviously a lot of high prices, a lot of headwinds, 328 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 4: a lot of challenges out there, but there is one 329 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 4: sector that is just booming AI, Artificial intelligence, and people 330 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 4: who know about this sector and know which stocks are 331 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:22,919 Speaker 4: going to benefit from it a lot can make a 332 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 4: lot of money. 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We're rolling through Tuesday 345 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: edition of the program on the eve of the fourth 346 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: Republican Debate, which we've taken place tomorrow in Tuscolosa, Alabama, 347 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: and we were just playing use some Liz Cheney cuts. 348 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, we're not even going to have elections 349 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 1: if Trump were to win, and I wanted to make 350 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 1: sure that we didn't forget Michael Beschlos on MSNBC saying 351 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 1: that if the Republicans won in twenty twenty two, what 352 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: might be next is firing lines executing political opponents. This 353 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 1: is what passes for actual news on MSNBC and opinion. 354 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 2: Listen to this cut. 355 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 7: We could be six days away from losing our rule 356 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 7: of law and losing a situation where we have elections 357 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,959 Speaker 7: that we all can rely on. You know, those are 358 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 7: the foundation stones of a democracy and a historian fifty 359 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 7: years from now, if historians are allowed to rive in 360 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:59,120 Speaker 7: this country, and if there are still free publishing houses 361 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 7: and a free press, which I'm not certain of, but 362 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 7: If that is true, a historian will say what was 363 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 7: at stake tonight and this week was the fact whether 364 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 7: we will be a democracy in the future, whether our 365 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 7: children will be arrested and conceivably killed. We're on the 366 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 7: edge of a brutal authoritarian system and it could be 367 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 7: a week away. 368 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 4: Can I mean, I mean, look, it's it's insane, and 369 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 4: it's it's shameful to say those kinds of things. One 370 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 4: of the problems we have now though, in the in 371 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 4: the Trump era, because of the anti Trump voices, and 372 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 4: you come across this on the right a little bit too. 373 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 4: I will just say it without naming any names or anything, but, uh, 374 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:46,239 Speaker 4: catastrophism breeds more catastrophism because it's really hard to get 375 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 4: anyone's attention when one group of people, or when one 376 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:53,400 Speaker 4: person is standing on their platform and shouting about how. 377 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,679 Speaker 5: This is the end of America and we're all going 378 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 5: to be put in camps and everything is falling apart, 379 00:20:58,600 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 5: and you're saying. 380 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 4: Look, there's bad stuff happening. We've got to address it. 381 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 4: We've got to you know, see this challenge head on. 382 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 4: But you know, I still believe in the resilience of 383 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 4: the system set up by the founders, YadA YadA. A 384 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 4: lot of people go, shut up, you, you're not the 385 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 4: real deal. The guy who says America is gonna end tomorrow, 386 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 4: that's who I need to listen to. And then it 387 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 4: doesn't end tomorrow, and then six months goes by and 388 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 4: the same person is saying, Oh, America is gonna end. 389 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 2: Unless I get my way on this. 390 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 4: You know, this is an unfortunate reality of a political 391 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 4: commentary in this current era, and the anti Trump stuff 392 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 4: has just has just put it on steroids. 393 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 2: It's just taken it to a new level. I don't 394 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:37,880 Speaker 2: think you can. 395 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 4: I don't think anybody Clay would even listen to you 396 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 4: on an MSNBC panel unless you said that Trump is 397 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 4: an existential threat to America. 398 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:44,880 Speaker 6: Yeah. 399 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: But the problem I think Democrats are having is there 400 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 1: is a boy who cried Wolf scenario at play, and 401 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: I think Trump is now benefiting from that because when 402 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 1: Michael Beschlos is saying, if we don't win the mid terms, 403 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,679 Speaker 1: there may not be an election. It's one thing if 404 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:05,719 Speaker 1: that is a died in the wool, hardcore American political opinionist, 405 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: and you're like, Okay, that person is just trying to 406 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 1: ensure that they continue to get a paycheck by selling 407 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 1: the most hyperbolic version of panic that you can get 408 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 1: on the left wing in this country. But for a 409 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,679 Speaker 1: historian like he starts off by saying, if we still 410 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 1: have historians and you're allowed to publish in this country 411 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,239 Speaker 1: in fifty years, which I'm not sure of that I'm 412 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 1: paraphrasing him there. I mean, we had elections, and I 413 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: think it's always important, and this is why being a 414 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: history nerd is I think helpful in this era. We 415 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: legitimately had elections during the Civil War and World War 416 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: Two over whether those wars should continue. Eighteen sixty four, 417 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 1: Lincoln against McClellan, Abraham Lincoln buck ran against the former 418 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 1: Union Army head. I mean, that's a pretty crazy thing 419 00:22:56,480 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 1: to think about. And then in nineteen forty four Roosevelt FDR. 420 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 1: Who was obviously not well and close to death himself, 421 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: won an election to ensure that we continue to fight 422 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 1: World War two. To its conclusion, I just the idea 423 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,239 Speaker 1: that you would argue, oh my goodness, whatever happens in 424 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, or whatever happens in twenty twenty four, 425 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:27,360 Speaker 1: America is going to be destroyed. Is frankly, just it's 426 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:32,400 Speaker 1: foreign to every notion of rational, rational sanity that exists 427 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 1: based on all of American history so far. That doesn't 428 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: mean that you cannot say we're in perilous times when 429 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 1: you're trying to put the chief political adversary of the 430 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: president in prison. I don't think that's a good president 431 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 1: to be setting. But I actually think Americans as a 432 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 1: whole are going to end up supporting Republicans and Trump 433 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: if he's the nominee more because of this attack that's 434 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 1: being levied by the chief political opposition. 435 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 436 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,159 Speaker 4: I like to think that I'm an optimist in the 437 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 4: long run, but I'm a pessimist in the short run. 438 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 4: Is and I see the problems that lie immediately ahead, 439 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 4: and I think we should address them. But overall, this 440 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:17,400 Speaker 4: experiment known as America has been moving along pretty well 441 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 4: for quite some time. And I think that the people 442 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:23,959 Speaker 4: that throw around this hysteria about, you know, the end 443 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 4: of the country. I mean, I'll be clear, I think Democrats. 444 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,120 Speaker 4: My fear with Democrats is that they and the left 445 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 4: in general in America is that they have unfortunately accelerated 446 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 4: dramatically the pace at which they make this country worse. 447 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 4: Than it would otherwise be for the people who are 448 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 4: alive today and for the generations that are going to 449 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 4: be born tomorrow. I think that Democrats make things more dangerous, 450 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 4: make us more poor, make us less free, all these things. 451 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,639 Speaker 4: But to constantly argue that, you know, the country is 452 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 4: on the brink of collapse because of them, I think 453 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:02,360 Speaker 4: seeds them more power than they deserve, or seeds them, 454 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 4: you know, more ability to induce fear that I'm willing 455 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 4: to give them. And the fact that they have resorted 456 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 4: to this against Donald Trump. Everything is catastrophism. Everything is 457 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 4: the truly the end of the country as we know. 458 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 4: And that is what they say. Existential, a word they 459 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 4: overuse chronically, everything climate change existential, Donald Trump existential, you know, 460 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 4: the war on trans people existential. I sit here and say, 461 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,880 Speaker 4: what really is the message of the Democrat Party Clay 462 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 4: going into twenty twenty four or other than hysteria across 463 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 4: the board. They push hysteria on everything, that women will 464 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 4: be you know, enslaved to their wombs and the Handmaid's 465 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 4: Tale because of abortion, that Donald Trump is the great 466 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 4: destructor of the American Republic and will create fascism, that 467 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 4: you know, white nationalism is the only force in America 468 00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 4: that seeks to have a secure border, even though you 469 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 4: look at a lot of minorities in America and they 470 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 4: actually want a secure border too. But just put that aside. 471 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 4: It doesn't matter. It's always hysteria and madness. And I 472 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 4: think that that's one of the primary problems of the 473 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 4: I'm just gonna say this. I think that emotional and 474 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 4: psychological instability may be the single most unifying factor among 475 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 4: the factions of the Democrat Party today. Basically, they're a 476 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 4: little to a lot crazy, and that's why they think 477 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 4: a lot of the things they. 478 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 2: Do, no doubt. 479 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 1: What do you think about playing the Steven A clip 480 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: when we come back of him attacking woke culture, which 481 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,919 Speaker 1: I think is pretty significant because we played besch Low. 482 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: So let's see if we can play stephen A here 483 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: in the next little bit. We'll break that down for you. 484 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,640 Speaker 1: By the way, Congressman Byron Donald's going to join us 485 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: in the third hour. The decision not to include Florida 486 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 1: State has blown up and turned into a political issue now, 487 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: particularly for the state of Florida. For those of you 488 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 1: who pay attention to the college football playoff, we'll talk 489 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 1: with Congressman By Nonds about that choice. 490 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:02,360 Speaker 2: He's a big Seminole fan. 491 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 1: When we come back in the meantime, look holiday season. 492 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 1: I know a lot of you out there thinking about 493 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: what you're gonna get everybody for Christmas. My third grader 494 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 1: is homesick from school right now. Buck, I was just 495 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 1: downstairs in the last hour. I think he's gonna be fine. 496 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 1: Just got a little fever. He didn't seem too upset 497 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: to be home from school, let's just put it that way. 498 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,239 Speaker 1: He's been watching Super Mario Brothers and playing with his 499 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: toy so it's not a bad day. But he told 500 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 1: me when I went downstairs, he said, Dad, I just 501 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,679 Speaker 1: got you the best present ever. 502 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 2: I said, oh, that's awesome. I'm really excited about it. 503 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 2: What is it? 504 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,719 Speaker 1: He said, I can't tell you right now. It's the 505 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: best Christmas present ever. I said, okay, I'm excited to 506 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 1: see what my third grader got for me. But if 507 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: you're out there right now and you're thinking to yourself, 508 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 1: I got to make sure that I get the best 509 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 1: Christmas presents ever. Legacy Box is the answer a lot 510 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:51,439 Speaker 1: of you. 511 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 6: Man. 512 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 1: There's so many of you out there that have tough 513 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 1: people to shop for people that you've gotten a tie 514 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: for eight consecutive years? How many years as dad gott 515 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 1: in a sweater? How about socks? 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Play and Buck. 546 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 4: Want to take some of your calls and also you 547 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 4: will get you Clay mentioned his Stephen A Smith conversation. 548 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 2: I'll leave it ap you. 549 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 4: So you want to dive in now or you want 550 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 4: to lead that into some one of the segments in 551 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 4: the next hour. 552 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 2: It's your your call. Here, let's take let's we'll play 553 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 2: it in the next hour. 554 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: Let's take some of these calls from people who want 555 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: away in on what you like so far. 556 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 4: James in Odessa, Texas, where I believe high school football 557 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 4: is very revered, James, thanks for being with us. 558 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 8: Hey, guys, yes, it is. As a matter of fact, 559 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 8: you know, try to get as quick as a can. 560 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 8: It's easy for the majority of us to sluff off. 561 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 8: And I'm not saying you guys are, but I'm just 562 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 8: thinking about people in general. It's easy for Republicans, in 563 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 8: my opinion, to just slough off. Well what Liz Cheney 564 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 8: saying and some of the other liberals are saying that 565 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 8: about Trump, and there'll never be elections again. It's easy 566 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 8: for us to say, no, big deal, that's stupid. No 567 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 8: one's gonna believe it. But remember Clay and you talk 568 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 8: about this pretty religiously and Buck two, five to ten 569 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 8: thousand people in five or six states are going to 570 00:30:55,080 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 8: decide this election. So they only need to get a 571 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 8: super small percent of people to drink some of that 572 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 8: kool aid, Yeah, to change this election. 573 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's true. 574 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 8: We can't just totally disregard it. 575 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 1: Oh, we don't disregard it, to be clear, We just 576 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 1: we're playing it for you because we look, the argument 577 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 1: is going to be twofold. Trump is hitler I e 578 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 1: America is going to fall apart. 579 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 2: That's one. 580 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 1: Two is I just want you all to know. Two 581 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: is going to be as we see it right now 582 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 1: eleven months out. What Buck said that basically America is 583 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 1: going to turn into a a You know, if you're pregnant, 584 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 1: they're going to put you in prison if you have 585 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 1: an abortion. That's going to be the entire Democrat argument 586 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 1: as we see. 587 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 2: It right now. Trump. If Trump's the nominatee Trump is. 588 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 1: Hitler, and they're going to put you in chains if 589 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: you're a woman and you want to have an abortion. 590 00:31:55,920 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 1: That's their argument because everything else they fail on. We're 591 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 1: you gonna argue the border, You're gonna argue crime, You're 592 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 1: gonna argue the economy. They're trying to argue the economy 593 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 1: with bidnomics. It's a disaster. You're gonna argue that we're 594 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 1: gonna be at war. We're basically in a world war now, 595 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 1: a small level one but one in the Middle East 596 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 1: and one in and one also in Europe. Buck, I 597 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 1: don't know if you paid attention to this. We may 598 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 1: have a war coming in Latin America. Have you seen 599 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 1: that Venezuela may invade take back, Yeah, take back this 600 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 1: oil rich area. They just I think ninety four percent 601 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 1: of Venezuelan's voted that that is still part of Venezuela. 602 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 2: Anyway. My point is, we gonna have a war in 603 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 2: Latin America. We could have a. 604 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 1: War in the Middle East, we could have a war 605 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 1: in Europe. They're gonna run on Trump is Hitler and 606 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 1: abortion is women are gonna go to prison if they 607 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 1: have abortions. That's what they're gonna run on. You should 608 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 1: know it, and it will work some. 609 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 4: I think that the both sides of the presidential election 610 00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 4: at least can be assumed to be over well, then 611 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 4: we dug in and not going to be a whole 612 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 4: lot of shift or change. No one really seems to 613 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 4: think that in an aggregate vote or a total vote 614 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,719 Speaker 4: sense that there's going to be some kind of a 615 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 4: blowout here, maybe the electoral College. Based on what we're 616 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 4: seeing for these numbers with Trump right now, I don't 617 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 4: know how Democrats can tell themselves that this is going 618 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 4: to do anything other than get worse, unless they really 619 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 4: think that they remember they have put this legal, this 620 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 4: legal ambush into play in place over many many months, 621 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 4: really many years actually, this has been going on, and 622 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 4: I think it's easy for us to get a little 623 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 4: bit used to. Okay, well, this is now just the reality, 624 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 4: and people understand that this is happening. McClay. They held 625 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 4: all of these prosecutions so that they would occur, at 626 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 4: least theoretically. I agree with you that some will be 627 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 4: delayed for the election year. If word of something like that, 628 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 4: what could possibly turn all these numbers around. 629 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 2: The only other. 630 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 4: Option I think you could think of is just the 631 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 4: absolute avalanche of anti Trump propaganda. Once that gets turned on, 632 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 4: once they take all the speakers to eleven, then it 633 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 4: will just be enough to drag Joe across the finish line. 634 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 4: But that's putting a lot of faith in their media apparatus. 635 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I saw a stat here from Axios this morning, 636 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 1: Buck where it's said just forty nine percent of eighteen 637 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,879 Speaker 1: to twenty nine year olds right now are saying they 638 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 1: definitely plan to vote. In twenty nineteen, it was fifty 639 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 1: seven percent who said that they were definitely going to vote. 640 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,839 Speaker 1: And younger Black voters and younger Hispanic voters are even 641 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 1: less likely to vote than younger white voters. Why does 642 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,799 Speaker 1: that matter? My theory, I think we got to stake 643 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 1: bet on this. My theory is that because they granted 644 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,720 Speaker 1: that will be way all turnout to the last election. 645 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 1: That's right as an aggregate number, Yes, yeah, that is. 646 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 1: Whatever they said to number was like one hundred and 647 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,399 Speaker 1: fifty six million votes something like that. We'll figure it out. 648 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 1: We'll look at the twenty twenty number. I think there 649 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 1: will be fewer people voting in twenty twenty four than 650 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 1: voted in twenty twenty, which I actually think helps Trump 651 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 1: because I think if you showed up to vote in 652 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, a lot of that was oh my god, 653 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 1: Trump hysteria. I think that's a hard they're going to try. 654 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 1: I think that's a harder bill to sell in twenty 655 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:25,360 Speaker 1: four than it was. 656 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 4: Way they sold the Trump hysteria in twenty twenty, before 657 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 4: they had video of people storming the Capitol and my 658 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:34,840 Speaker 4: January sixth and all this stuff. 659 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:36,839 Speaker 2: I don't know that it's a harder sell. 660 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 4: I worry that we're lulling ourselves into a little bit 661 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 4: of a false sense of security because of where the 662 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 4: polls are right now. They're going to make this the 663 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,759 Speaker 4: January sixth end of democracy election. I get it as 664 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 4: crazy as it is. 665 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 2: To you and me. I don't know how that plays 666 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:53,880 Speaker 2: with that middle one percent. 667 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:58,320 Speaker 1: I think, well, that's true, but COVID was a huge 668 00:35:58,360 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 1: part of the hysteria. 669 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 2: Working in twenty twenty and. 670 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 1: Presuming that we don't have another virus suddenly emerge from China, 671 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,839 Speaker 1: as long as there isn't a COVID like virus which 672 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 1: nobody could have predicted, you know, four months out like 673 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 1: we are now from March of twenty twenty at the time, 674 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 1: if we were doing this show four years ago, I 675 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,399 Speaker 1: think that played into the hysteria. COVID made people think 676 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 1: the end times are here. It did if you were 677 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,320 Speaker 1: of that mindset. And I think it's gonna be harder 678 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,919 Speaker 1: to re up that. And I think I'm hopeful. Maybe 679 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,840 Speaker 1: I'm totally wrong. I think kids have also gotten a 680 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 1: little smarter, I believe it or not. I know your optimism. 681 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 1: I do think some of these kids, when I see 682 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,919 Speaker 1: that they're not showing up, I think they're buying into 683 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:47,760 Speaker 1: the hype less 684 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 4: Oh man, your cynicism needs to go way, way up.