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Speaker 2: And welcome back to George and Ore along with Joe Diamond.
Speaker 2: We're going to take calls next hour with Joe as
Speaker 2: we talk about the Haunted paranormal. Joe, tell us about
Speaker 2: your mind reading abilities. How did you master that?
Speaker 3: Well? I grew up watching many different kinds of you know,
Speaker 3: Tales of the Unexplained shows and many of your listeners.
Speaker 3: Nothing nothing super ironically out of the ordinary there. But
Speaker 3: the people that really kind of stuck out to me
Speaker 3: were the people like, you know, the amazing Creskin and
Speaker 3: Uri Geller, and people like Darren Brown in the UK
Speaker 3: was just becom popular when I was a teenager, and
Speaker 3: lots of other people. I found books on people such
Speaker 3: as David Hole, who there's a great book on him
Speaker 3: called super Psychic where he had his own radio show
Speaker 3: in Chicago or in He started in Chicago performing on stage,
Speaker 3: but then had his own radio show out of I believe, Pennsylvania.
Speaker 3: But he would just people would call in and just
Speaker 3: make these, you know, ask him questions like where did
Speaker 3: I lose this object? And he would just tell them
Speaker 3: just plainly say, oh, it's in the drawer in the
Speaker 3: table across the room for you second draw down, and
Speaker 3: they that would be where the necklace was. And I
Speaker 3: was always fascinated with the you know, the power of
Speaker 3: the mind and everything from.
Speaker 1: Hope there Joe to being.
Speaker 3: Able to you know, look at someone's palm and read
Speaker 3: the lines and tell their fortunes. So I give as
Speaker 3: much of that as I could. Unfortunately, I went to
Speaker 3: a very very strict religious school that kind of looked
Speaker 3: down on all of that, which didn't allow me to
Speaker 3: do it as much as I wanted. But at the
Speaker 3: same time, every time they said, you know, oh, don't
Speaker 3: get into that stuff, they could lead to you know,
Speaker 3: other things that just made me want to do it more.
Speaker 3: And so I got books on you know, books on
Speaker 3: everything again from contact, mind reading to there's a lot
Speaker 3: of techniques such as again like PAULM.
Speaker 2: Street and Taro, did yourself teach yourself.
Speaker 3: To a large extent, Yes, I did manage to have
Speaker 3: some great mentors. Uh. In the Chicagoland area. There was
Speaker 3: a gentleman by the name of Marshall Brodein who in
Speaker 3: the Chicagoland area people would remember him as a whizzo
Speaker 3: the Wacky Wizard, and he was famous for selling something
Speaker 3: called a TV magic cards. But a lot of people
Speaker 3: don't know as he spent most of his career as
Speaker 3: they legitimate uh stage hypnotist. And while I don't do
Speaker 3: any like trance work or anything like that, he worked
Speaker 3: with me a lot about how to stand on stage
Speaker 3: and how to talk to an audience. And he turned
Speaker 3: me on to a lot of like these very highly
Speaker 3: specialized books that you had to like kind of you
Speaker 3: can just go to the library and get You had
Speaker 3: to know someone who could you know, set you up
Speaker 3: with the right set of tools or materials and such.
Speaker 3: And he really encouraged me to look into the works
Speaker 3: of previous psychic entertainers and mind readers and uh, to
Speaker 3: really go down down that path. And uh yeah, and
Speaker 3: that was that was a big, big aspect of it.
Speaker 3: I still I still sink to a lot of myself
Speaker 3: the techniques. The big area where other people insights come
Speaker 3: in is from the show aspect how to stage something,
Speaker 3: whether to keep the person I'm reading in the audience
Speaker 3: around stage, for example, or if I bring four people
Speaker 3: on stage, do I stand them all in a row
Speaker 3: to my left, all in a road of my right too,
Speaker 3: to the left to to the middle. If if you
Speaker 3: watch the old you know, just for example, like crestin
Speaker 3: shows or just clips of Uri Gellar from his early
Speaker 3: TV appearances. Uri was a huge, huge influence on me,
Speaker 3: and I was enjoyed a when I had my own
Speaker 3: radio show a few years back, I had the pleasure
Speaker 3: of talking with him and he's he's incredible. I mean,
Speaker 3: it was, it was it was just a dream come
Speaker 3: true to.
Speaker 1: Talk with.
Speaker 3: Girl. Oh, absolutely absolutely, and and he she has the
Speaker 3: ability to just talk to you as if you are
Speaker 3: the only person in the world, and it's not that
Speaker 3: the the most important person in the world at that moment.
Speaker 3: And he he's got so many you know, clips of
Speaker 3: him online of he just knows how to position people
Speaker 3: on stage or how to just kind of take over
Speaker 3: a show and just see people in the you know,
Speaker 3: whether whether he is you know, legitimate or not. And
Speaker 3: I agree with you, but just his showmanship of knowing
Speaker 3: how to stand and how to handle people in a situation.
Speaker 3: There's a great shot of him just from the early seventies,
Speaker 3: in his early early career when he's super young and
Speaker 3: he's just standing with a bunch of people holding their
Speaker 3: keys out and spoons out for him to bend, and
Speaker 3: he's just spending you know one thing. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: But I mean just that image of you know, all
Speaker 3: all those things around him, like just being in I
Speaker 3: still don't know of anyone. There's been lots of people
Speaker 3: who have copied his you know abilities, whether you know,
Speaker 3: legitimately or fraudulently, but I don't think anyone has been
Speaker 3: as compelling as him while doing it. And you know
Speaker 3: that's and that to me is the big A big
Speaker 3: aspect too, is you know, you know, whether or not
Speaker 3: it's kind of like juggling. You know, we all have
Speaker 3: the ability to sit down and practice juggling three balls,
Speaker 3: but when someone can do four than five, and then
Speaker 3: it's nive and it's shame thoughts, and they're taking the
Speaker 3: human capability to a place that we never could have
Speaker 3: imagined for entertainment. I mean, that is very very much.
Speaker 3: And someone can just sit there and just you know,
Speaker 3: do a stunt and be like, you know, balance a
Speaker 3: share on their chain and go, oh, you can tell
Speaker 3: I don't have a life, or they can say, hey,
Speaker 3: I'm want of a few people in the world that
Speaker 3: can do this thing with this kind of chair. Do
Speaker 3: you all want to see it and really get people
Speaker 3: excited for it? And that's that's very much what I
Speaker 3: try to bring to, you know, all of my shows
Speaker 3: and really try to, you know, try to learn when
Speaker 3: I when I read these old books or watchall equips,
Speaker 3: I'm not looking to you know, copy them, but I'm
Speaker 3: looking to see, like, you know, again, how they handle
Speaker 3: a microphone and how to uh project their humanity to
Speaker 3: an audience and so forth, and the so a lot
Speaker 3: of that I'm very much self self taught on when
Speaker 3: it comes to, uh that aspect.
Speaker 2: In the places that are haunted that you've been to, Joe,
Speaker 2: have you ever been scared?
Speaker 3: I've definitely been freaked out. I don't think I've ever
Speaker 3: been scared as in like scared to my life or
Speaker 3: scared that I was going to be possessed or anything
Speaker 3: like that. I've definitely had moments of uh wow or
Speaker 3: oh oh God, Okay, Nope, I'm done, you know, I'm done.
Speaker 3: I'm i gotta step away for a moment. Uh. There
Speaker 3: was a there was a point of one of my
Speaker 3: recent trips to the UH which Stock Operas is actually
Speaker 3: down on the on the ground floor, and uh, there
Speaker 3: is there is an object called a ghost light, which
Speaker 3: many theaters will have to just put out when they
Speaker 3: close up the theater for the night. There's lots of
Speaker 3: different tales and folklore about it. And uh, the superstition
Speaker 3: is is that you're leaving the ghost out for the
Speaker 3: ghosts and the theater. It's also a stay supercaution. It
Speaker 3: allows whoever comes in, uh to the little next they
Speaker 3: don't have to be in this massive, giant dark room
Speaker 3: by themselves and try and tumble around for a light switch.
Speaker 3: And uh, I was they had set it out and
Speaker 3: I had forgotten something. So I went back in, grabbed
Speaker 3: my shoulder bag, just looked at the ghost light and
Speaker 3: I just said, are you excited for Halloween as I am?
Speaker 3: And the light just kind of right at that moment
Speaker 3: almost on c just kind of a few times, and
Speaker 3: then grew a little brighter and then went back with
Speaker 3: the usual you know, hue or intensity, and I just said,
Speaker 3: I will take that at yes, thank you, and I
Speaker 3: always say thank you. And I left it at that,
Speaker 3: and I've definitely felt, you know, I felt I wouldn't
Speaker 3: say I was scared at that moment but I definitely
Speaker 3: had a little bit of the goosebumps, and it's definitely
Speaker 3: the kind of feeling I want to try to give
Speaker 3: people in the show. And I've definitely noticed other people
Speaker 3: when they've a place like that, definitely heightened these feelings
Speaker 3: for and other people. In fact, i'll spoil this much too.
Speaker 3: The second the second act of the show, the opening
Speaker 3: line of it is, We're going to wait for everything
Speaker 3: to get super quiet, step out as long as possible,
Speaker 3: and just say you feel that, don't you. You don't
Speaker 3: have to be psychic to know that there's something about
Speaker 3: this place, and you genuinely don't. Just being in that
Speaker 3: space genuinely it genuinely affects you. And yeah, I mean
Speaker 3: you'd have to. I can't imagine it not affecting you
Speaker 3: on that level, especially this week, especially coming up on
Speaker 3: how Night, and I have noticed there's certain places where
Speaker 3: it definitely increases or it impacts the abilities of that
Speaker 3: most people do tend to actually have.
Speaker 2: There's no question about that. Then what is it about
Speaker 2: the Midwest that's so many places?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's yeah, we've got well, well for starters,
Speaker 3: we've got two major cities, Like I'm I'm right in between.
Speaker 3: I'm equal distance from Chicago and Milwaukee, so a lot
Speaker 3: of a lot of stuff there. I mean, I think
Speaker 3: a big thing at least with this specific town. Uh,
Speaker 3: it's got a lot going for it because again it's
Speaker 3: a it's where Orson Wells grew up and he brought
Speaker 3: so much and he even said in many energews he
Speaker 3: considered woodstock Holm and I don't know, and Ray Bradberry's
Speaker 3: from this area as well. I think it's just you know,
Speaker 3: at night, all the all the cornfields just look like,
Speaker 3: you know, empty black voids who kind of like the sky.
Speaker 3: So it's like, again that's your mind runs with lots
Speaker 3: of uh, lots of imaginations there. But also you know,
Speaker 3: there's there's more people out here than I think people
Speaker 3: realize outside of the cities, and there's lots of history
Speaker 3: here as well. I'm also not far from where the
Speaker 3: Beasts of Gray Road has been spotted many times as well,
Speaker 3: although I have not gone. I have not gone looking
Speaker 3: for that. I tend to human beings freak me out
Speaker 3: enough in their minds. I haven't gone looking for any
Speaker 3: cryptis actively. Yet.
Speaker 2: Do the places that you've been in increase people's abilities
Speaker 2: psychic abilities, for example, Does it enhance it?
Speaker 3: Definitely? And I've seen that happen major definitely with the
Speaker 3: opera house. Now part of that could have been I
Speaker 3: will play a little bit of skepticism on this because
Speaker 3: I do think, you know, skepticism can can be healthy,
Speaker 3: especially when it comes to celepathy, because I think so
Speaker 3: many people have kind of blinded themselves to and bed testing,
Speaker 3: specifically with telepathy for some reason. I haven't fully decided
Speaker 3: for myself why that is. However, when I did a
Speaker 3: prinsimage what we did last time I was on the
Speaker 3: show where I thought of a memory and I projected
Speaker 3: it out to listeners. I do that on a version
Speaker 3: of that on stage as well. And normally, like in
Speaker 3: a banquet hall, like a corporate events or in other
Speaker 3: smaller theaters, I don't get about seventy percent coverage with
Speaker 3: everyone in that room, and in this theater we had
Speaker 3: about ninety five percent coverage with four hundred and eleven people.
Speaker 3: We had just about there was only a handful of
Speaker 3: people who did not receive any correct thoughts when we
Speaker 3: were doing that experiment of four hundred and eleven people.
Speaker 2: Statistics is that, oh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, and it's like, I mean, these were people
Speaker 3: who had you know, now, granted it was a larger
Speaker 3: sample time, was it so? Could have there been more
Speaker 3: group social pressure to say they had gotten it right? Maybe?
Speaker 3: I don't know, there's gonna be We're going to kind
Speaker 3: of take that a step further in the second half
Speaker 3: as well and see what other people can sense about
Speaker 3: the building without We're going to do it under a
Speaker 3: slightly more stringent conditions. And I don't want to say
Speaker 3: too much more about it because I told you what
Speaker 3: we were going to be testing with. If someone were
Speaker 3: to listen to you know, go to America's Sperience Manager
Speaker 3: dot com, get tickets, make their way to see the show,
Speaker 3: and that they knew what was going to happen, that
Speaker 3: would of course influence it. So I don't want to
Speaker 3: go too much in depth with that. But we will
Speaker 3: have much more, much more concise proof as to whether
Speaker 3: or not people can sense things about that building and
Speaker 3: its history, and see if we can get even more
Speaker 3: specific with even even more people.
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