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Speaker 1: Ron An Aian.

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Speaker 2: The problem with turbo cars is in the case of

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Speaker 2: the Ford, in the case of the escape, you can

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Speaker 2: buy two parts. You can buy a wastecap management solenoid,

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Speaker 2: or you can buy the whole turbo baby. You know

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Speaker 2: it's this or everything.

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Speaker 3: The Car Doctor in your experience, does it just one

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Speaker 3: that goes on those engines.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems to be. It just seems to be

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Speaker 2: one that you know. There's a few bulletins about it.

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Speaker 2: Nothing specific do they cite. They just say repair the

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Speaker 2: effected cylinder.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the radio home of ron Anian, the Car Doctor.

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Speaker 1: Since nineteen ninety one, this is where car owners the

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Speaker 1: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair.

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Speaker 1: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up

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Speaker 1: the phone and call in.

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Speaker 2: The garage doors are open, but I am here to

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Speaker 2: take your calls at eight five five five six hundred

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Speaker 1: Running.

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Speaker 2: You just see in the news recently that Kia is

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Speaker 2: recalling four hundred and twenty seven thousand. Tell you write

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Speaker 2: SUVs because there's a defect. The vehicle may roll away

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Speaker 2: while they're parked. And the reason that caught my eye well, obviously,

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Speaker 2: you know, there's a lot of reasons why that caught

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Speaker 2: my eye. But we've been talking about this lately that

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Speaker 2: we're noticing certain manufacturers like Toyotas. We had a customer

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Speaker 2: with a twenty one Toyota RAF four where push button

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Speaker 2: car you know start stop, not start stop technology, but

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Speaker 2: the stop start push button on the dash foot, on

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Speaker 2: the brake, push the button, it starts. You can shut

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Speaker 2: that vehicle off in gear and get out of the car,

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Speaker 2: and it will not be in parking. The parking break

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Speaker 2: doesn't set. That car will roll away. And I've noticed

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Speaker 2: a few of them, and it's lately I've been I've

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Speaker 2: been checking Dodge pickup trucks. Well, I mean the late

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Speaker 2: model Ram. I should say it's not Dodge, it's a

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Speaker 2: Ram now, but late model Ram will not allow you

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Speaker 2: to shut off the vehicle unless it is in park.

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Speaker 2: And I think that's smart. I think I think Dodge,

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Speaker 2: I think Ram, whoever they want to be called, should

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Speaker 2: be commended for that. I think that's a smart move

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Speaker 2: because the scenario becomes, you know, think about it. You

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Speaker 2: get in the vehicle and you've got your key fob

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Speaker 2: device whatever it is, it's your electronic key, it's in

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Speaker 2: your pocket. If you're not thinking, and so many of

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Speaker 2: us are not lately, We're just going to shut the

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Speaker 2: Or maybe the phone rings. Gee you think you think

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Speaker 2: the phone interferes with driving? Nah, and you get out

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Speaker 2: of the vehicle on the phone, shut it off, and

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Speaker 2: you know, is it in park? You have to be

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Speaker 2: sure it's in park. And you know, I started talking

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Speaker 2: to some higher ups at different car companies about this

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Speaker 2: and they said, well, yeah, but the warning on the

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Speaker 2: you think people are paying attention to that. You're counting

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Speaker 2: on that to tell people what to do. No way,

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Speaker 2: So this article came out or this recall came out.

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Speaker 2: According to documents published by National Highway Traffic Safety Administration,

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Speaker 2: the intermediate shaft and right front drive shaft of certain

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty through twenty four teller riides may not be

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Speaker 2: fully engaged. What this means is if the axle becomes

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Speaker 2: disconnected the vehicle, it'll go into park. It will go

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Speaker 2: into mechanical park inside the transmission, but the axle won't

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Speaker 2: hold it and allow the vehicle to roll over time.

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Speaker 2: This can lead to unintended vehicle movement while the cars

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Speaker 2: are in park, increasing crash risks. Key America decided to

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Speaker 2: recall all twenty through twenty three model year and select

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Speaker 2: twenty four model year Teller rides earlier this year. At

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Speaker 2: the time, no injuries or crashes were reported improper assembly.

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Speaker 2: Improper assembly is suspected to be the cause of the

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Speaker 2: shaft engagement problem. With the recall covering tellur IDEs that

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Speaker 2: were manufactured between January of twenty nineteen and October of

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Speaker 2: twenty three three. KEYA estimates that one percent have the defect.

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Speaker 2: To remedy this recall, documents dealers will update the affected

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Speaker 2: some shop management programs will tell us that now Mitchell

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Speaker 2: Mitchell one, our shop management program will tell us that

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Speaker 2: they've just added a feature recently where every vehicle it

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Speaker 2: taken a large step towards keeping us keeping everybody safe

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Speaker 2: by doing that. But you can do that on your

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Speaker 2: own as well. More information at mitchell one dot com,

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Speaker 2: by the way, but you can do that yourself. Go

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Speaker 2: a spot there you can plug in your seventeen digit VIN.

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Speaker 2: If you can't find your VN, it's on that metal

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Speaker 2: on your vehicle title, or it's on your registration and

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Speaker 2: plug it in. It will tell you as your vehicle

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Speaker 2: subject to any recalls, are there any open recalls? Which,

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Speaker 2: by the way, if you're purchasing a used vehicle, one

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Speaker 2: of the best things you can do to research is

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Speaker 2: go out to KNITS National Highway Traffic Safety Authority and

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Speaker 2: plug in that seventeen digit VN and it will tell you, hey,

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Speaker 2: there's open recails, there are no recalls, et cetera. So,

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Speaker 2: but if you're driving a Kiya, if you're driving, to

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Speaker 2: tell your ride it may slip away and you should

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Speaker 2: be getting a recall notice shortly according to this piece

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Speaker 2: of information. So hello and welcome Ron and Andy and

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Speaker 2: the car doctor. Aren't we all happy? Now? Well we

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Speaker 2: are if we're not driving a Kiya. But in any event,

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Speaker 2: let's let's go to the phones and get this hour going.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Esther in Ocean City, Maryland. Esther, Welcome

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Speaker 2: to the car doctor. How can I help?

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Speaker 4: Yes? Hi, hi, Well, I was asked to call back.

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Speaker 4: I had told you about a week ago with regard

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Speaker 4: to an HVAC control unit. Oh, this is my two

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Speaker 4: thousand Corvette three Corvette. Yes, absolutely, and I did find one,

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Speaker 4: and I was asked to call back so other people

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Speaker 2: Sure, where did you? Where did you find refreshes? Again

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Speaker 2: with the problemster in case somebody may not have heard that, show.

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Speaker 4: My control unit wasn't working?

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Speaker 2: Right? And this was a two thousand crime so old right?

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Speaker 2: This was a two thousand and three anniversary edition Corvette?

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Speaker 4: Correct?

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Speaker 2: Right? And where did you find the part? You were

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Speaker 2: looking for a heater of ventilation AC control head. Where

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Speaker 2: did you end up finding the part? What did you use?

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Speaker 4: Out of Marshville, Ohio? I went on the internet. I

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Speaker 4: did check the ones that you told me about, but

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Speaker 4: I wasn't successful, gotcha, So I went on the internet,

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Speaker 4: excuse me, and I found one at J and J

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Speaker 4: Auto Wrecking.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 4: Their phone number is eight hundred four two five one

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Speaker 4: five five five. They're open Monday through Friday nine to

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Speaker 4: Capital N Capital J capital ocapital dot com. And I

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Speaker 4: worked with a gentleman by the name of Andrew. Their

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Speaker 4: their item. They gave us sixty day warranty, but if

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Speaker 4: you leave a positive review, they will extend that warranty

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Speaker 2: Wow, Esther, Esther, you should be doing you should be

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Speaker 2: doing commercials for them. I think you just did. It's okay,

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Speaker 2: you know what.

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Speaker 4: I'd rather have help someone else as well. But they

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Speaker 4: were very very good to deal with.

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Speaker 2: Well, we appreciate you getting back to us and letting

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Speaker 2: us know and letting everybody else know. We're glad your

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Speaker 2: car is ready for the road. Now you can go

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Speaker 2: to car shows spring us here right there you go,

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Speaker 2: So thanks, Esther, You're very welcome. You enjoy the ride.

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Speaker 2: It's a pleasure to have you anytime. Bye bye. I

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Speaker 2: think Esther just did a commercial for well, listen, wherever

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Speaker 2: she found the parts. You know that that's what that's

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Speaker 2: what counts, because finding parts is becoming a full time

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Speaker 2: job now. And I say this all the time. It's

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Speaker 2: it's it's getting harder and harder and harder. Uh, you know,

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Speaker 2: we can't we can't fix cars without parts. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's it's obvious. But as simple as that sounds, you know,

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Speaker 2: we had a situation this week. We were working on

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Speaker 2: is the hot rod version of a the Magnum Wagon,

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Speaker 2: the Chrysler station wagon from that generation. And we've been

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Speaker 2: doing some front end work and repairing some of the

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Speaker 2: problems it had. It had dried out rubber bushings and

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Speaker 2: some other things going on, and we needed a we

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Speaker 2: needed lug nuts lugnuts. This came to us as they

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Speaker 2: used vehicle. The new owner purchased it out of storage.

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Speaker 2: Somebody had put it in storage. It's only got fifty

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Speaker 2: six or sixty six thousand miles on it something like that.

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Speaker 2: It's not a lot of mileage. And we needed lugnuts

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Speaker 2: and we had to get them at a Chrysler, and

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Speaker 2: And you know, sometimes it's just simple stuff. Sometimes it's

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Speaker 2: heater control head like Esther's Corvette needed, right, you know,

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Speaker 2: it's not electronics, it's lug nuts. It's all mechanical stuff.

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Speaker 2: And in this case, they were a specific lugnut the

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Speaker 2: a while to find them. So finding parts is an issue.

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Speaker 2: And sources like that that Esther cited are excellent. We're

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Speaker 2: glad that you called and told us that. Anyway, eight

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Speaker 2: five five five six zero nine nine zero zero. Running

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Speaker 2: in of the Car Doctor. We'll be back right after this.

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Speaker 2: Don't go away where vehicle not taking you where you

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Speaker 2: want to go? Oh well, call Ron. He's the expert

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Speaker 2: at making your vehicle take you where you need it.

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Speaker 1: Eight five five five six zero nine nine zero zero.

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Speaker 2: And now back to Ron. Hey, let's get over to

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Speaker 2: Phil and Maine seventeen Kia sportage. What's going on here? Phil?

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Car Doctor, Sir. How can I help?

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Speaker 4: Hey?

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Speaker 3: Roon?

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Speaker 2: That would be Bill.

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Speaker 5: That always happens to me.

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Speaker 2: That's Okay, sir, Okay, that's Tom's fingers. Tom, Tom's off

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Speaker 2: Today's He's having a rough day. So how can I

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Speaker 5: Well, I'll give you I will give you the short

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Speaker 5: of it. Twenty seventeen, Kia Sportage bought it with about

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Speaker 5: one hundred thousand miles on it mile one hundred and

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Speaker 5: three thousand, went into limp mode, got it looked at

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Speaker 5: and number two cylinder no compression. They pulled the head,

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Speaker 5: they replaced the valves, you know, basically, they had a

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Speaker 5: top job on it, then drove it for another ten

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Speaker 5: thousand and the same thing has happened again. Okay, and the

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Speaker 5: Kia won't cover the top end. The car is covered

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Speaker 5: through a class action suit for the piston rod boarnings

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Speaker 5: in twenty twenty six, but not the top end. Wondering

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Speaker 5: what I can do?

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Speaker 2: So, you know this car for everybody's information, this car

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Speaker 2: is covered under more than a few recalls and campaigns.

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Speaker 2: It's notorious. It'll set a p thirteen twenty six knock

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Speaker 2: sensor fault and then they will reprogram it with they

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Speaker 2: will reprogram it with different software to get correct knock

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Speaker 2: sensor wiring. I'm sorry, correct knock sensor reading said, it's

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Speaker 2: not setting an erroneous code and their diagnosis is correct.

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Speaker 2: They've made some changes in the software strategy.

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Speaker 2: That's been done. So who did the head? Was it

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Speaker 5: No, it was the people who sold it to me.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so you know, going back to the shop that

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Speaker 2: You know, how did the failure occur? In? Just what

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Speaker 5: You? Yeah, they did a complete head resurface? Okay, I

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Speaker 5: did I did see a borscope picture of the whatever

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Speaker 2: Okay, So is the second one like that as well?

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Speaker 5: Yeah. In both instances, the check engine light came on

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Speaker 2: Limped you home. So you know, think of it like this.

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Speaker 2: do that, right, bill, and they do your they do

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Speaker 2: There's always a reason, right, It just it just doesn't

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Speaker 5: Well, that's what I'm wondering because I've done extensive research

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Speaker 5: to clean it out, right, So I'm wondering if there's

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Speaker 2: Well, So is this the result of because this is

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Speaker 2: But then why is it cylinder to Again, what's particular

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Speaker 2: usually what puts carbon deposits in these engines? All right?

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Speaker 2: Because here think of it like this, there's no there's

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Speaker 2: what else is there that could possibly be Could it

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Speaker 2: be oil? Right?

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Speaker 5: Well, that would that would be my suspicion.

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Speaker 2: Right, that would be my suspicion. Do we have a

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Speaker 5: Understood?

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Speaker 2: Could we have sticky rings in cylinder number two allowing

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Speaker 2: It's not exactly perfect where all the all the charge

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Speaker 2: There's reversion and exhaust. There's reversion and intake where flow

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Speaker 2: Could you know, I would like to know what the

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Speaker 5: Well, they're going to give me some pictures of that

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Speaker 2: Just sure you can email me. Just email them to

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Speaker 2: me Ron at cardoctorshow dot com. It's easy. We'll do that,

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Speaker 2: all right.

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Speaker 5: And I had one other quick question. Sure is there

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Speaker 5: brand name. I'll just say spraying and now use a

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Speaker 2: What are we talking about.

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Speaker 5: Into the vacuum side of the PCV valve?

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Speaker 2: Sure? Why not? You know, why not? I'll tell you what?

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Speaker 2: How about how about some CRC. CRC makes some CRC.

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Speaker 2: Get you got a local AutoZone? Oh yeah, get that?

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Speaker 2: You know I love Aozon. You can go down there, boy,

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Speaker 2: you can look at fuel system cleaners to your heart's content.

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Speaker 2: They've got one of everything. Right, And let's go down

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Speaker 2: actually do a GDI, a gas direct injection cleaning service

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's not going to affect the fuel control

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Speaker 5: because I know they change those at one time and

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Speaker 2: Said spray right, right, And it's not necessarily a spray,

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Speaker 2: it's usually a kit. CRC makes a formula that is

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Speaker 2: But I would ask them how they considered all those

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Speaker 2: Civic and oldie but a goodie. We're talking about oldies here.

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Speaker 2: So what's going on here? Rich? How's this car? It's old,

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Speaker 2: it's not starting and I think it's a fuel problem.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know if it's actually.

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Speaker 2: The fuel pump or the every place to relay that

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Speaker 5: And oh the rain.

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Speaker 2: So let me so when you say it's a no start,

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Speaker 2: is this it cranks but it doesn't start exactly all right,

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Speaker 2: So this is a crank no start condition when it

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Speaker 2: other way. Have you checked it for spark?

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 2: I have, and it has spark, right, all right? So,

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Speaker 5: I haven't done plugged it.

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Speaker 1: I haven't tested it like that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, repect the relay.

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Speaker 5: Part.

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Speaker 2: All right. How do you know it's the right relay

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Speaker 2: since there's so many of them down.

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Speaker 4: There by the part number?

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Speaker 2: Okay? All right? Just asking so you know, just asking,

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Speaker 2: do you have any propane?

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Speaker 5: No? No, not right now?

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Speaker 2: No, No, I'm just saying could you feed it an

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Speaker 2: alternate fuel source? Hmm right, well the vehicle run on

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Speaker 2: an alternate fuel source just to see it start. All right.

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Speaker 2: Then the other question I've got is have you tested

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Speaker 2: Check for power at either the injectors or the idle

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Speaker 2: if you look at a wiring diagram, gets powered up

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Speaker 2: low voltage, go to the PGM I relay. Do you

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Speaker 2: have low voltage there? If you have low voltage going

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Speaker 2: into the relay, all right, So instead of just replacing it,

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Speaker 2: a we could have a bad or corroded ignition switch.

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Speaker 2: So it will it will duplicate a bad relay, but

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Speaker 2: it won't be It'll be the voltage is actually low.

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Speaker 2: All right, right, and let's start there. I mean, and

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Speaker 2: this is, well, you've changed the relay with a Honda part.

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Speaker 2: Although new doesn't mean good I could put you through

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Speaker 2: the way it's connected, not the electrical connector, but how

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Speaker 2: it's tucked up under the dash. We used to let

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Speaker 2: it would actually cause the car to shut off. And

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Speaker 2: I guess it's possible even with a new part. New

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Speaker 2: means never ever worked in my world. All right, But

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Speaker 2: you know, before we go that far and go all

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Speaker 2: the way around and say, hey, we got a bad

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Speaker 2: Do we hear the relay, feel the relay click under

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Speaker 2: And then when it doesn't start, what does that voltage become?

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Speaker 2: before the relay that's feeding it is the ignition switch itself.

436
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:54,080
Speaker 5: Cognition switch.

437
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:57,200
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, now, please don't go out and just

438
00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,840
Speaker 2: change the ignition switch. You got to check voltage, all right.

439
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:04,760
Speaker 2: I know it's tempting. So otherwise the cycle continues and

440
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:06,960
Speaker 2: we end up in the wrong place. All right, kiddo,

441
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 2: all right, thank you, you're very welcome. You need more,

442
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:10,119
Speaker 2: you know where to find me.

443
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 4: Great, thank you, you're very welcome.

444
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 2: Be well. Yeah, it's it's it's a diagnostic step, right,

445
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 2: it's a diagnostic routine. The PGM, the PGMFI relay is

446
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 2: very common back in the day. You know. Sometimes it

447
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,680
Speaker 2: was also the spread of the terminals. Sometimes the connectors

448
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 2: were corroded. But if we're gonna if we're gonna guess,

449
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 2: we gotta stop guessing. We got to start testing. And

450
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 2: that's just very very important. You know, that just makes

451
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 2: me nervous. So you know, you got to know. We

452
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 2: had a twenty sixteen Camaross in the shop this week.

453
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:46,120
Speaker 2: I'll tell you this story real quick. And I tell

454
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,200
Speaker 2: you this story because it's about maintenance, all right. It's

455
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 2: about I don't care how old or new something is.

456
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 2: It's still a machine. It still needs basic care. We

457
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 2: had a twenty sixteen Camaross that came in for four tires, which,

458
00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 2: by the way, is no cheap proper position either. Their

459
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 2: they're run flats, their thirty five series tires. They are

460
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,880
Speaker 2: very heavy and very very stiff sidewall. You know. Of course,

461
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,479
Speaker 2: our new Hunter tire machine handled it, gobbled it up

462
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 2: like it was nothing. And in any event, we noticed

463
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 2: that while driving going around corners, the rear end start

464
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:25,639
Speaker 2: at the hop and bounce thirty nine mile twenty sixteen Camaross. Now,

465
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,879
Speaker 2: logic would say that, gee, it's you know, the fluid

466
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 2: and the rear differential is worn out. Of course, General

467
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,160
Speaker 2: Motors says that the fluid doesn't need changing until sixty

468
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,360
Speaker 2: thousand miles. So you know, how could that be? Well,

469
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,919
Speaker 2: we pulled out a small sample of rear dift fluid

470
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,959
Speaker 2: and sure enough it was just beat up and black

471
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,120
Speaker 2: and ugly. And we did a thorough change of rear

472
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 2: dift fluid, added the pose additive that GM calls for,

473
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 2: and the problem solved. And the reason I tell you

474
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,680
Speaker 2: this is not to just bore you with something about, hey,

475
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 2: we changed gurial oil and we fixed the problem. But

476
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,360
Speaker 2: I think the real answer is that the rear end

477
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:08,479
Speaker 2: of a twenty sixteen Camaross takes a little over a

478
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 2: quart of fluid one court a court and a quarter

479
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:16,439
Speaker 2: to be exact. That's staggering, all right, You've got a

480
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 2: six point one I think it is leader engine up front.

481
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:20,680
Speaker 2: I think it's six to one or six y two

482
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 2: six ' two I'm sorry, six point two leader engine

483
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 2: putting out all kinds of horsepower and torque, and you're

484
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 2: throttling that thing going down the road, and you expect

485
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,879
Speaker 2: one court of fluid to hold up over the lifetime

486
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 2: or at least still sixty thousand miles and not wear out.

487
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 2: You know, you've got to do service. You've got to

488
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,160
Speaker 2: do maintenance. It's important. I mean listen, If you don't,

489
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 2: the rearrange you break is going to be you know,

490
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,719
Speaker 2: the car, and then the wallet you break is going

491
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 2: to be your own when you have to repair the

492
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 2: major component. So you know, don't fall into the trap

493
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 2: of gee, I'm driving a new car. It never needs anything.

494
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 2: Driving a new car means you've just earned the right

495
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,400
Speaker 2: and the responsibility to maintain should you want to do so,

496
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:05,160
Speaker 2: to be safe and reliable out on the road. So

497
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 2: the owner of the Camaro was very happy we solved

498
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 2: this problem. He didn't even know we had a problem,

499
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 2: which he just assumed that it was the way the

500
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,679
Speaker 2: vehicle was supposed to feel because he drove it so infrequently.

501
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 2: It's a summertime car only, and you know, he kind

502
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 2: of got used to it and didn't realize it had

503
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 2: been going on for a couple of thousand miles, which

504
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:24,919
Speaker 2: was spread out over the course of a couple of

505
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 2: years because he doesn't really drive it a lot. So

506
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 2: just be aware, all right, there's a reason, and don't

507
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 2: be afraid to ask your mechanic. Hey, it's only got

508
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,679
Speaker 2: forty thousand miles on it. Are there any fluids we

509
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 2: should be doing now? Because early is better than later?

510
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,119
Speaker 2: In my book eight five five five six zero nine

511
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 2: nine zero zero, I'm run an aading of the car doctor.

512
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 2: I'll be cruising back right after this. Don't go away,

513
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:57,919
Speaker 2: walk back running in of the car doctor. We had

514
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 2: a I want to tell you this story real quick.

515
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 2: We had a customer this week with a twenty nineteen

516
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 2: Toyota Rev. Four and it was in for maintenance thirty

517
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,880
Speaker 2: thousand mile maintenance, Yeah, thirty five thousand something like that.

518
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 2: And we went through and we did our usual you know,

519
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 2: fuel system cleaning and wiper blades and you know, change

520
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 2: the oil rotator of the tires. The vehicle is you know,

521
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 2: now going on five going on six years old. They

522
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 2: got it early. They got it late twenty eighteen, so

523
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 2: it's getting older, and he had asked about a battery.

524
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 2: He wanted a fresh battery in it because the vehicle,

525
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 2: you know, because of age, and they're getting ready to

526
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 2: go take some trips this summer. They're going to travel

527
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 2: out west, and they didn't want to, you know, take

528
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,439
Speaker 2: a chance of getting stuck on the road somewhere, so

529
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 2: I had to put a battery in it. You know,

530
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:41,400
Speaker 2: it's not easy even looking up a battery anymore because

531
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 2: there's so many specific questions that have to be asked,

532
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 2: and all the electronic catalogs don't they don't seem to

533
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,239
Speaker 2: be correct, I gotta tell you. And of late, you know,

534
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:54,880
Speaker 2: we've been using Auto Batteries dot com as our reference

535
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 2: resource strictly for battery applications. I mean, we've used it

536
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 2: in the past, we've been using it in the ass

537
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 2: for a long long time for other information. But they

538
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 2: they're making it easy because they ask a couple of simple,

539
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 2: basic questions. Do you have start stop technology, which this

540
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 2: vehicle did, although you wouldn't know it to look at it.

541
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,439
Speaker 2: You wouldn't know unless you operated this vehicle. There was

542
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,239
Speaker 2: no button anywhere that said hey, start stop you know

543
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 2: other than that. And then if you looked at the

544
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 2: top of the original battery, in very small letters, almost hieroglyphics,

545
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 2: it said start top technology only, so we knew that

546
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 2: the vehicle was a start stop. But Auto Batteries dot

547
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 2: Com helped us find the right battery for this vehicle.

548
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 2: And this is key because that AGM battery is more money.

549
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 2: It is they're typically fifty to seventy five dollars higher

550
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 2: than a conventional flooded battery. That we were able to

551
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 2: get source documentation from auto Batteries dot Com and give

552
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 2: it to the customer and let them see it, and

553
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 2: you know, okay, this is why, this is why this

554
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 2: battery is more money. This is what this battery does

555
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 2: versus a conventional flooded battery, which is important, you know

556
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 2: from just knowledge, right. I always tell you guys, knowledge

557
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 2: is power, So it's important. So again, thanks to auto

558
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 2: Batteries dot Com, we were able to look something up

559
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 2: correctly and educate a customer, just like we try to

560
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 2: educate you guys each and every week. So it's important.

561
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 2: Let's go in the shop. Courtesy of az Pro, AutoZone

562
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 2: and other folks over at azpro dot com. But we

563
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 2: had a twenty thirteen Hyundai Santa Fe this week that

564
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 2: had a loud whirring noise. That was the description on

565
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 2: the work order, and it was in my rack, and

566
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 2: it happened the louder it got louder the more you

567
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 2: drove the vehicle. It would start to whistle and whirr,

568
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 2: and we took the belt off. I took the belt

569
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 2: off because I knew it was something in the belt

570
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 2: area and the noise went away. You know, prior to

571
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 2: taking it off, I had put the mechanic stethoscope. I

572
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 2: listened very carefully to the individual components, and it was

573
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 2: loudest at one of the idler pulleys. There is you know,

574
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 2: two what I consider two idler pulleys and a belt

575
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 2: tension or pulley on this vehicle. So it was loudest

576
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 2: from this one belt idler pulley. So I looked up,

577
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 2: I looked at a belt idler. I went out to

578
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 2: AutoZone azpro dot com and I looked it up, and

579
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 2: you know, they said, it's this idler and this belt. Okay, great,

580
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 2: had it shipped over to us and not through the

581
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 2: fault of AutoZone, but because of the way the manufacturer

582
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 2: indexes the part, it was the wrong diameter pulley and

583
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 2: I kind of went round and round and we kicked

584
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 2: it around and we talked about it, trying to reference

585
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 2: the right one. And then I got an idea, and

586
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 2: you can do this, And this is why I tell

587
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 2: you this story. We got a hold of the original

588
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 2: Hyundai part I gotta I gotta blow up picture and

589
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 2: it's easy to you go online, Hundai Parts online, whatever,

590
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:46,479
Speaker 2: and I found the correct part with the correct Hyundai

591
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 2: part number. It said, you know, it's it's this one,

592
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 2: not that one, even though they were pointing to what

593
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 2: I thought was the wrong pulley. You know, it's interesting

594
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 2: what you can do with part numbers at AutoZone pro,

595
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,719
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, at azpro dot com, at the auto zone website,

596
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 2: and you know, I was able to reference part numbers

597
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 2: by doing an interchange, pulling in that part number, and

598
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 2: it brought me to the correct manufacturer pully part number

599
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 2: that I needed, even though it's not listed by application.

600
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 2: And I blame the manufacturer. I want to make that

601
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 2: clear that they don't have an indexed right and I

602
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 2: was able to order the right Pulley from azpro dot com.

603
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,479
Speaker 2: They sent it over and the car got fixed. So,

604
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 2: like I keep telling you, sometimes it's a parts game,

605
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 2: and trying to find the right ones it's becomes more

606
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 2: difficult each and every day. So but thanks to az

607
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 2: pro azpro dot com, it makes our job a whole

608
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 2: lot easier and it can to you as well. I'm

609
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 2: running any in the car, doctor, I'll be back right

610
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 2: after this. Don't go away. Welcome back. Look at that.

611
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 2: I hit the button. We're doing good today, Tom. We

612
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 2: almost made it through the whole hour. I'm impressed. Although

613
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 2: there's some weird things that have been happening in studio today,

614
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 2: hasn't there It's been like it's almost like this is

615
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 2: Halloween and it's not the weirdest thing was that bowl

616
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 2: of pretzels you brought out? You like that bullet press.

617
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, they're good. I'm telling you that's why

618
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 2: I brought him out, because you're here. You'll eat most

619
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 2: of them. I just had a few, so because when

620
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 2: I do that, I tend to finish the bag and

621
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 2: I can't do that. I'm trying to be good. I

622
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 2: want to answer an email from Kevin Kevin's a regular listener.

623
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 2: He's written in before and he's always got some great

624
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 2: questions and some great issues. I suspect Kevin's a tech.

625
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,719
Speaker 2: He writes and he says, Hey, Ron, good afternoon. I've

626
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 2: recently changed the gear race shoo on my two thousand

627
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 2: and two forty one to fifty van. I went from

628
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 2: a stock three fifty five to a four to ten gear.

629
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 2: What needs to be done to correct this binometer? I

630
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 2: have a Solace pro, but don't think I can do

631
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 2: calibrations with it. Thanks for any input. Love the radio show.

632
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 2: Listen to the podcast every week and he gives me

633
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 2: his vent and I wrote back, and I wanted to

634
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 2: do it up here on air because I thought everybody

635
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 2: could benefit from this, because you know, changing gear rati

636
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 2: always is even though it's it's I don't want to

637
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 2: say it's a thing of the past. It's not that

638
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 2: common anymore, right, we don't. We don't see many people

639
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 2: doing that, and you know somebody does that. I want

640
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 2: to give them their their due and their their information

641
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 2: that they're requesting. I think that takes a priority in

642
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 2: my mind. And I told Kevin, I said, I don't

643
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 2: think his soulist Pro will do calibrations either. And it's

644
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 2: not because of the tool, but more because of the

645
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 2: vehicle and the way the vehicle is set up. The

646
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 2: vehicles needs. You know, in the shop, I've got a

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Speaker 2: Triton snap On Triton and I've got to snap On

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Speaker 2: Zeus Plus and you know, they're part of my arsenal,

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Speaker 2: but they don't allow me to do that particular reset

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Speaker 2: or calibration either. But that's because it's a two thousand

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Speaker 2: and two. That's that's the technology that's there. You know.

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Speaker 2: I suggested to him to call snap On tech support

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Speaker 2: and ask they'll be able to tell him, and you know,

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Speaker 2: just make sure he's got current level software and stuff.

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Speaker 2: That always helps. I think Kevin's answer, and if anybody

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Speaker 2: else is doing this, I think the answer for this

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Speaker 2: is in what Ford calls as built data. When you

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Speaker 2: flash a Ford Let's say, for example, the old engine

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Speaker 2: computer that you're trying to install software in or from

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Speaker 2: is damaged. I mean, that's why you're changing and replacing

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Speaker 2: the PCM a lot of times, right, Or it's an

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Speaker 2: accident vehicle. The vehicle was hit and the PCM was crushed,

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Speaker 2: so you can't extract the old data out of it,

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Speaker 2: and that's where the information such as gear ratio, transmission type,

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Speaker 2: tire size is usually stored. So you can go to

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Speaker 2: a motorcraft website via Ford and look up as built

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Speaker 2: data using your specific VN so it will tell you

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Speaker 2: you plug in your vent, it will show you the

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Speaker 2: software profile that Ford used to build that vehicle when

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Speaker 2: they assembled it coming off the line. And then what

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Speaker 2: happens is there will be options for certain things, just

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Speaker 2: as there were options on the Ford assembly line. If

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Speaker 2: four to ten was a stocked ear ratio, which I

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Speaker 2: believe it was, you check that box instead of three

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Speaker 2: fifty five. Now when you put it together, it will

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Speaker 2: not not only alter sponometer calibration, but it will also

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Speaker 2: change how the transmission shifts and reacts to that different

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Speaker 2: gear ratio as well. So using as built data is

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Speaker 2: the absolute correct way to go. I'm ronnin Ady and

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Speaker 2: the car Doctor reminding you until the next time. Good

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Speaker 2: mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See y