WEBVTT - Hangin' With The 'Boys: Michael Downs Calls In

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<v Speaker 1>Before listening, ask good doctor, if your heart is healthy

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<v Speaker 1>enough for Dallas Cowboys football. He's hanging with the Boys,

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<v Speaker 1>broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star

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<v Speaker 1>in Frisco. Now your host, Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, and

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<v Speaker 1>Shannon Gross. Whoa man, it has been a long time,

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<v Speaker 1>so long that I forgot that we moved to Mondays

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<v Speaker 1>and that we're at eleven o'clock. I thought we were

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<v Speaker 1>still in the afternoon. Kurt heading on Mexican time. Kurt

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<v Speaker 1>head to text me and say, are you coming? And

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<v Speaker 1>then I got here and we lost Douglas still in Mexico,

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<v Speaker 1>Still in Mexico. How you boys been good? Great? Man,

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<v Speaker 1>we've been been great. You look good? Yeah? You all good? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you look good. Nate, Yeah, man, we've just been We've

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<v Speaker 1>just been, you know, moving along. And he took a

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<v Speaker 1>vote while he was going. I don't love his good

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<v Speaker 1>news bad news. Uh. I'm surprised Kurt didn't do what

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about. Uh, you'll seat right there. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>Kurt supposed to be. I heard, so I heard. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just saying we took a vote between the three three

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<v Speaker 1>guys that were left here. For a whole week. I

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<v Speaker 1>hear that I missed one show and Kurt actually did

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<v Speaker 1>something and got the big man. Actually, I actually did something, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>National Headlines while I went out and got mister Jones,

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<v Speaker 1>Stephen Jones, and h and we asked them some pretty

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<v Speaker 1>good questions. I heard, I heard Nate came out hot. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I aren't y'all guys me as much as I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a big Cowboy fan. It may not be the first question,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's always a sudden question. Hey man, what we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do with dad? And I'm saying okay, And when

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<v Speaker 1>he Kurt hit me with like, mister Jones gonna be on,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I gotta asks normal. I stayed away from

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<v Speaker 1>the hard question, but I want to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>give our fans are on his answer, you know, instead

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<v Speaker 1>of saying, well I don't know what I well, this

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<v Speaker 1>is what the man said, you know, so uh man,

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<v Speaker 1>it was nice he went and got it, man, And

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<v Speaker 1>but you know what he took off. He wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>He wanted to get this started. You could tell how

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<v Speaker 1>mister Jones answered the question. He wanted to get it

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<v Speaker 1>started because I think that they're gonna have conversations with

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<v Speaker 1>Dad's to fill him out and vice versa, and whatever comes,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's a reduction and pay page stay the same

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever. I think they He wanted that to be

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<v Speaker 1>on Dad's in his people's mind as well as his own,

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<v Speaker 1>him and his father and coach his mind. Uh. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know how big it was thanks to Kurt.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't keep saying that thanks to Kurt, because yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I ain't know how big it would be. And so

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<v Speaker 1>I walked and to do some other shows and everybody like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>that was a great podcast. What are you saying? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>what podcast? Yeah? And so it was nice, man. So

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<v Speaker 1>that was a great It was a great deal. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a great gift for what Kurt did because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you asked the questions and that was what important. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on an airplane coming back from Mexico on the runway,

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<v Speaker 1>waiting to take off, and I get a text it says,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, being in skin or talking about your podcast

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<v Speaker 1>on their show, and I'm like, oh, what we do wrong?

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<v Speaker 1>What we do? Oh? Man? Then we were Yeah, guys

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<v Speaker 1>were everywhere, Kurt, do more? Do that more? Often? Speaking

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<v Speaker 1>of you lined up another guest today, right, Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>think hopefully here in a little bit, we're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Down's call in. I'm gonna talk a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a part of Thurman Steves your team and

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<v Speaker 1>at Everson Walls. With Everson Walls being up for the

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<v Speaker 1>Hall of Fame here on Saturday, we're gonna talk to

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<v Speaker 1>him a little bit about that and he actually, let's go, Curt,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go. I'm looking forward to getting his thoughts too.

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<v Speaker 1>He was he was a stud state safety as well,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'd like to hear what he kind of thinks

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<v Speaker 1>about the current secondary as well. Let's go. But wow,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just been help you enjoyed yourself? Man, Not for

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<v Speaker 1>real because because you're gone. No, no, no no, because

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<v Speaker 1>uh we we we've we haven't heard from the fans.

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<v Speaker 1>One thing we haven't heard from the fans left, should

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<v Speaker 1>we should we hear from them? Yeah, from the fans.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm for real because we we we we planned even

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<v Speaker 1>last week, but then when missus Jones took off with it,

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<v Speaker 1>it takes precedent. Yeah, so we we was like, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>you know so eight eight eight eight five five two

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<v Speaker 1>two nine seven, I don't even have anything to write

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<v Speaker 1>with I'm about the bar this eight eight eight, eight

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<v Speaker 1>five five two two nine seven. Yeah. So we went

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<v Speaker 1>to the Senior Bowl, and you know, I was, how

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<v Speaker 1>was that? Man? It's always nice And this is the

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<v Speaker 1>first time that I did not have a position, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean a true position. Like one year was looking at

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<v Speaker 1>offensive linement, look at you know, one next year to

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<v Speaker 1>look at look at the quarterbacks, or look at this

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<v Speaker 1>position where you just locked in, you know, uh, looking

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<v Speaker 1>at a certain position. Whereas this year here, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm maintaining that we needed, we need every position whatever. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we needed, we needed all we need. We need playmakers,

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<v Speaker 1>We need guys that can make a difference. We need

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<v Speaker 1>guys that if something happened to one eyes frontline guys

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<v Speaker 1>that they can least fill the role for a game

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<v Speaker 1>or two and will not have a major disaster. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>who are some of the guys that that people were

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<v Speaker 1>some of the buzz buzz name but you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>the Josh Allens and the Baker Mayfields that that that was,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and I didn't even realize that Josh Allen

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of there at first. You know, he threw

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<v Speaker 1>reil the first day. Second day was Baker Mayfield kind

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<v Speaker 1>of did it. Baker Mayfield got some pop to him,

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<v Speaker 1>He got some some swag to him, or some bizzares,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever words you want to call it. You know, he

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<v Speaker 1>he got a little bit of that about him. But uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna tell you his his little partner or the

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<v Speaker 1>running back. I can't, I can't think of his name.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me find him. It's a little running back, bron

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<v Speaker 1>for real, for real. I think his name is Flowers,

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<v Speaker 1>the running back, fullback, tight end? Didn't brother, Oh was

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<v Speaker 1>that the big guy the tight end? Yeah, if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to Demetrius Flowers, Oklahoma, and uh, it's a guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna let you pronounced this name. Look at number

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<v Speaker 1>thirty one, Timmy, Timmy, his name Flowers. Tell me number

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<v Speaker 1>thirty one's name ogobania acaranquo sounds good. I want you

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<v Speaker 1>to ask broadest about him. I want you to ask

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<v Speaker 1>that young man that sits over opposite broughdest This was

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<v Speaker 1>the naturally meanest guy out there. He's he's a devis

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<v Speaker 1>event for Oklahoma, but he's an outside linebacker. He's a

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<v Speaker 1>Sam linebacker. And he when he did the run defense

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<v Speaker 1>one on one, gets offen his lineman. He was the

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<v Speaker 1>meanest when he did pass rush. He was the meanest

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<v Speaker 1>when they did a team He was just mean. He

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<v Speaker 1>was just irritated about everything, about everything. How long has

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<v Speaker 1>it been since his team's had just a nasty guy,

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<v Speaker 1>just a mean nasty that can play. Yeah, probably rat Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>probably rat lift. You know, for me, it was for me,

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<v Speaker 1>it was James Washington. For me when I played, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we called him drive by because any given moment, Bro,

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<v Speaker 1>you can spray the field were either verbally or physically.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you, and and uh and this is the

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<v Speaker 1>main thing about James Washington. Graduated from Youth SLA with honors.

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<v Speaker 1>Works for you, sela just the smartest, one of intelligent guy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>one of intelligent guys in the world. Get on the

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<v Speaker 1>football field. You're like, this dude ain't never the thug. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>serious man, And that's what we need, you know. And

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<v Speaker 1>you got to have that guy, you you got to

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<v Speaker 1>have that guy that plays within the rules of the game.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, he's always gonna be on the edge.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he's always gonna be on the edge. Woods

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<v Speaker 1>be that guy. He could be, Well, we'll see, we'll see,

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<v Speaker 1>because he's still in the learning stages because you know

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<v Speaker 1>he wind up as our slot guy. And that ain't

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<v Speaker 1>no joke. That takes. That takes some time to h

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<v Speaker 1>get used to. And so we'll see. But I'm telling you, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>that guy can't pronounce his name. And I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>even try to mess up this kid. He's out. He's

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<v Speaker 1>a defensive end six one two four the from Oklahoma.

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<v Speaker 1>He I'm serious. Now, he got something in him. He

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<v Speaker 1>got something in him now. Whether he can play or

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<v Speaker 1>not on this level, I know he can. He may

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<v Speaker 1>not be a great rush defensive end, but I know

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<v Speaker 1>one thing he can run. He got some attitude and

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<v Speaker 1>you can play him at sam linebacker probably and then

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<v Speaker 1>still let him get in on some pass rush. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's nice man, He nice? I mean, And uh, you

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<v Speaker 1>brought up running back while ago. Would you guys be

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<v Speaker 1>mad if they took a running back in the first round? Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Whoa first round? No? No? No, no, no, third round?

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<v Speaker 1>Be more more like it. Now, I'm gonna tell you

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<v Speaker 1>another guy that uh, And I'm just giving you guys

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<v Speaker 1>that just jumped at me. Her Will Hernandez sixty three

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<v Speaker 1>UTAP guy offensive guard sixty three, three thirty has some

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<v Speaker 1>decent feet, has some nice feet. And see, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have rounds. I don't know rounds like you

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<v Speaker 1>know said he's dish round. So we'll bring him on,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, let him tell you what projected rounds. These

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<v Speaker 1>guys go at. But when he put his hands on it,

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<v Speaker 1>he was a spark plug, a little spark flug with

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<v Speaker 1>his arms, probably along with his table. And uh, he's

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<v Speaker 1>got a kind of a mean streak too. What's more

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<v Speaker 1>important for you for a guy coming out of college

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<v Speaker 1>to have good feet? As offensive line? When I look

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<v Speaker 1>at officers line from from the from the kicker to

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<v Speaker 1>the Loyd's offensive lineman, feet is the key because all

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<v Speaker 1>of this each other's feet. Yeah, feet is the key

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<v Speaker 1>to all of this. Oh Douglas, I heard you, you

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<v Speaker 1>know so uh yeah, and even Rex when it's fetish feet, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he right, feet is the key to all of it.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh when I when I look at guys, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>uh the flowers, Uh it's Kyle Bellinger, Arizona State. He

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<v Speaker 1>is a guy I talked to. I talked to Mike,

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<v Speaker 1>the guy that does the TV. Mike Marshall compiled a

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<v Speaker 1>great list I had to go through. I talked to him.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't use this guy running back number twenty eight.

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<v Speaker 1>Make sure I'm right. I don't want to be wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>Make sure I'm right. Make sure I'm right. Yeah, Arizona

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<v Speaker 1>State number twenty seven. They did not use him a

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<v Speaker 1>lot his senior year at Arizona State. But in the combine,

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<v Speaker 1>every other ball was going in for the North. Every

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<v Speaker 1>other ball in practice was going to him, whether it

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<v Speaker 1>was running out of the backfield or catching the ball

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<v Speaker 1>out of the backfield. Like I said, I don't I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have no where they should be drafted that. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just saying guys that jumped out to me, or guys

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<v Speaker 1>that they brought the attention to me through somebody else,

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<v Speaker 1>and I look at them and then and then and

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<v Speaker 1>they stayed on my mind, you know so, Uh, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it was disadvantage. Just the first time I can

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<v Speaker 1>remember since I've been here that none of the coaches

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<v Speaker 1>went that I know of. Well, put us at a

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<v Speaker 1>disadvantage of all. No, No, because a lot of teams,

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<v Speaker 1>the Ravens are known for this. Uh, the Bengals are

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<v Speaker 1>known for this. And now the Bengals coaches have something

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<v Speaker 1>to say. But normally your scouts set the board and

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<v Speaker 1>if they have somebody that's super nice or super good,

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<v Speaker 1>they would say, hey, coach, where you think about this guy?

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<v Speaker 1>They're coach watched the film, the coach doesn't that said,

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<v Speaker 1>I have to be there. What we preach around here

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<v Speaker 1>is our scouting combined. Our scouting department knows what our

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<v Speaker 1>coaches want. So coaches need to get themselves together. We

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<v Speaker 1>got four or five sixty new coaches. They need to

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<v Speaker 1>be getting to know each other so when they get

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<v Speaker 1>on the field they can translate this stuff to the players.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you can't have new coaches and then twenty

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<v Speaker 1>seven new guys and twenty and the whole and the

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<v Speaker 1>guys that's veterans not knowing what each position coach like

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<v Speaker 1>and don't like. So they needed to stay here and

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<v Speaker 1>get some knowledge on what Jason Garrett and the two

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<v Speaker 1>coordinators preferred. You know, how they're teaching what they want

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<v Speaker 1>and what's their termin Knowledgiest, Kurt, you've been doing any

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<v Speaker 1>research on the Senior Bowl? Now, I don't to be honest,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't worry about these guys too much. Chill their cowboys. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I have a hard enough time keeping up with this team,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm afraid I'm not gonna be a whole lot

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<v Speaker 1>of Trey Matthews number twenty one for ARVN. I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>saying this is what his number was. That you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he stood out a little bit, you know at the

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<v Speaker 1>Senior Bowl doing practice week. You know, just guys like

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<v Speaker 1>that man and hand guy. You know Rodison talked about

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<v Speaker 1>him number nine. He he couldn't be blocked. Really, he

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't be blocked. He couldn't be blocked. Bro not not

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, I don't watch the game, because when

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<v Speaker 1>when're talking about the Senior Ball, I didn't watch that game.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that that you know that game rally hurts

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<v Speaker 1>a player, you know, even if you don't play well.

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<v Speaker 1>There's so many factors go into getting into getting into

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<v Speaker 1>a week three four deepens man versus a four three

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<v Speaker 1>deepens avan, A one technique that's a that's a clogger

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<v Speaker 1>versus a one technique that's a mover. You know, a

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<v Speaker 1>gap player versus a guy that's that two gaps that

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<v Speaker 1>just stands the gay up and reads. It's just so

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<v Speaker 1>many things that goes into this right here that you're

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<v Speaker 1>asking these kids to learn to by time. Some of

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<v Speaker 1>them gets to the game. Someone mind is blown. Are

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<v Speaker 1>the work out its more important than the game itself? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>what the workouts does is in some scouts that confirm

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<v Speaker 1>or not confirm what they're thinking about this kid. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>for us sometimes with body where their bodies look where

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<v Speaker 1>you think, okay, god, they've been on film. These guys

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<v Speaker 1>six three looks good and then you get there and

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<v Speaker 1>find out he's six one. You know, you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you say, this guy look thick on film. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>get there and I mean thirty pounds light than I thought.

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<v Speaker 1>Was this because you got in better shape or this

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<v Speaker 1>because this besides you've been having all these pads. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you just get a you know now, like I was

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<v Speaker 1>telling Douglas that some of this stuff. You know, the

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<v Speaker 1>game can help you, but the game rally just hurts you.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. You go down there early and just watch

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<v Speaker 1>the work went out on Tuesday. It was a Tuesday

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<v Speaker 1>and Wednesday and I came on back because I mean Thursday,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I kind of you kind of see what

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<v Speaker 1>you like and who jump out at you? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>that was a weather down at Mobile. It was nice

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<v Speaker 1>for a change. Wasn't really sixty five I mean sixty

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<v Speaker 1>one fifty nine. Nice. Yeah, he gets some good old

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<v Speaker 1>salt and cooking. Uh. Yeah, I went to one of

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<v Speaker 1>the places. I don't think i'd be going back to

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<v Speaker 1>marked that. We have a story. Yeah, so I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>tell you. And it's another kid, uh from North Carolina,

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<v Speaker 1>Ant number seventy two, Brandon Parker, offensive tackle. He played

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<v Speaker 1>both sides, really he played, you know they had him

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<v Speaker 1>at both He's sixty seven. I mean he like he

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<v Speaker 1>had some nice feet. Now, all of these guards and

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<v Speaker 1>tackles for the average, on the average from the north

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<v Speaker 1>and south, they wasn't as big in this bulky and

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<v Speaker 1>as I thought the guys were last year, and they

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<v Speaker 1>weren't a stiff. Now, I don't know how these guys

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<v Speaker 1>are gonna be rated. You know, brought us and others

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<v Speaker 1>tell us how these guys are rated. But they they were.

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<v Speaker 1>They were lean guys. You know, guys that seem like

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<v Speaker 1>they can grow up in the year or two, you

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<v Speaker 1>know physically, you know, last year, like them googles could

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<v Speaker 1>one much growing to be left. You know, it was

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<v Speaker 1>already there, you know for us, mean, it's just fatties,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. Fatties. Yeah, we gotta get

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<v Speaker 1>we gotta get brought us on soon to talk a

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<v Speaker 1>little draft. Speaking of y'all doing the draft issue again

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<v Speaker 1>this year, we are, Yeah, we gotta get rolling on that. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be bigger this year because his draft is

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<v Speaker 1>being is here. Yeah, yes, so it's gonna be bigger. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>for you guys all that brought us loves that go

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<v Speaker 1>from what three hundred to five hundred. Well, it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of up to him how much he's he can how

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<v Speaker 1>much worse out? Yeah, y'all started on it yet, not

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<v Speaker 1>well he has, He's started on some of his stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, we we haven't got into the a bit

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<v Speaker 1>it too much yet. I'm gonna tell you a kid,

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<v Speaker 1>Braxton Barrels, wide receiver, a five, nine eighty six from Miami.

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<v Speaker 1>You're talking about the guy that was trying to make

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<v Speaker 1>an impression but the quarterbacks wasn't sharp with their passes.

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<v Speaker 1>This this is number eight. I would really like to

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<v Speaker 1>know where he would go because he's not a big guy.

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<v Speaker 1>But uh, this guy, man, he was trying not to

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<v Speaker 1>drop nothing. He don't care if he had to dive

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<v Speaker 1>over eight folks up uperneath the artificial turf. He didn't care.

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<v Speaker 1>He was trying to care. I'm like, why, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to see what this kid watched up there. We gotta

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<v Speaker 1>go to a quick break, but I want to ask

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<v Speaker 1>y'all a question before we go, because we've talked about

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<v Speaker 1>on this show. With your first pick, you take the

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<v Speaker 1>best player available on the board. And I just said,

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<v Speaker 1>would you be mad if they took a running back?

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<v Speaker 1>And you laughed at me, Kurt, But I did not laugh.

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<v Speaker 1>You kind of laughed, he scoffed. What position would you

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<v Speaker 1>not be cool with them taking in the first round

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<v Speaker 1>this year? Quarterback? You'd be okay with um. You gotta

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<v Speaker 1>move up. It ain't nothing out there. You gotta up

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<v Speaker 1>and pray to pray, pray to God. Is somebody that

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<v Speaker 1>these guys are real? Yeah, you're not gonna do that,

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<v Speaker 1>but just hypothetically, So no running back and no quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>Other than that, everything's on your board, So yeah, what

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<v Speaker 1>about you, Nate, Everything's on my board. Mike Marshall was

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<v Speaker 1>saying safety, safety, because we got the new UH position coach,

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<v Speaker 1>But I think that that's out of the question because

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<v Speaker 1>he can come in and help fix what we got.

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<v Speaker 1>I think first that's what you try for. Were y'all watching,

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<v Speaker 1>We hadn't talked since since uh playoff weekend. Every time

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<v Speaker 1>y'all saw buried church, were you just like yeah, Nah,

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of get past that real quick because, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you either good enough of you not you to keep

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<v Speaker 1>this man or you don't like like hitches. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you either keep hitches or you don't or move on. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know what many people we can look back home.

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<v Speaker 1>You see a lot us. It's super Bowl a lot

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<v Speaker 1>get it together, Douglas, What do you guys? What do

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<v Speaker 1>you guys think about the Super Bowl matchup? Here's a

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<v Speaker 1>good question. Yes, Nate's probably not going to answer this.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll ask you, Kurt na Naken answer if he wants

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<v Speaker 1>Betty Will would you rather see Philly win their first

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<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl or Tom Brady just win another one? I

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<v Speaker 1>hope Philly loses for multiple reasons, but I think they

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<v Speaker 1>will burn that city down. You know what, they might

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<v Speaker 1>burn it down, whether they win or lose. It'll be

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<v Speaker 1>crazy up there. What do you what do you think hurt?

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<v Speaker 1>Who you want to see whin? I'm I'm sick of

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<v Speaker 1>the Patriots. I don't really have any So you're rooting

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<v Speaker 1>for the Eagle. I'm not rooting for anybody. You want

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<v Speaker 1>the Eagles to win, don't you don't want the Patriots

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<v Speaker 1>to win? You know It's amazing how how we we

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<v Speaker 1>we just a world of underdogs? Will a whirl of

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<v Speaker 1>for the first one? Will a world of this that another,

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<v Speaker 1>and we don't respect and winning and how hard it

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<v Speaker 1>is to accomplish that. We are witnessing something that will

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<v Speaker 1>probably never happen. Wow, way to go, Kurt. Wait, God,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad Jack Hurt taking phone call. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>you get the show. What I just called Michael Downs

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<v Speaker 1>and I got his voicemail. I bet he was calling

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<v Speaker 1>Kurt probably. So so what we have to do. What

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<v Speaker 1>we have to do is it's three teams. I went

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<v Speaker 1>with the Fighting Zimmerman's all. You know, I picked the

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<v Speaker 1>Eagles to win out of the division because of Fletcher Cops.

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<v Speaker 1>But then Fighting Zimmerman's you know, I like coach zim

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<v Speaker 1>So that's who I chose to get into the NFC

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<v Speaker 1>Championship game. But I don't wave on Tom Brady when

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<v Speaker 1>you when you you have to go take it from Tom.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to go beat Tom. And so as much

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<v Speaker 1>as I'm an NFC man in the NFC East, because

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<v Speaker 1>I believe in your division, I believe that if your

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<v Speaker 1>division strong, and if you can go through your division

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<v Speaker 1>and win any ship, prepare you for the for the

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<v Speaker 1>super Bowl. So so here we are, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>let's see what's happening, man, I mean I will finish

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<v Speaker 1>this discussion to do your thing, hurt. You want to

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<v Speaker 1>do the honors? Sure, no doubt. Hey, don't let him

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<v Speaker 1>get the big head. Now come on to welcome to us.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome right now is the great Michael Downs For those

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<v Speaker 1>fans out there who need a refresher, he was with

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<v Speaker 1>the team from what eighty one to eighty eight? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and a former teammate of Nick Nick Newton. For briefly, Michael,

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<v Speaker 1>you're joined here by Nate Newton, who you know well,

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<v Speaker 1>I assume, and Shannon Gross and our who's our? I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just bombing this great. You're doing a great job. Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to the show, Michael. Thanks for taking some time with us.

0:27:28.160 --> 0:27:33.080
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, it's my pleasure. I hadn't talked to lady

0:27:33.240 --> 0:27:38.560
<v Speaker 1>of two years. And yeah, man, I'm glad to get

0:27:38.600 --> 0:27:42.000
<v Speaker 1>to talk with you for a minute. What's up, Mike Man,

0:27:42.520 --> 0:27:44.600
<v Speaker 1>because I'm shocked you didn't come there. We had this

0:27:44.720 --> 0:27:47.520
<v Speaker 1>past summer, was it? Dak had the bollet or the

0:27:47.640 --> 0:27:51.119
<v Speaker 1>golf thing? And I saw walls and too tall and

0:27:51.240 --> 0:27:54.040
<v Speaker 1>all of that out there. So where you being? Mike?

0:27:55.320 --> 0:27:59.280
<v Speaker 1>You know, I must have not heard that one right,

0:27:59.480 --> 0:28:03.400
<v Speaker 1>because I usually try to go to those events because

0:28:03.440 --> 0:28:06.600
<v Speaker 1>that's the only time you know, we've we've seen people, yeah,

0:28:07.359 --> 0:28:11.520
<v Speaker 1>get together. So I try to go as much as

0:28:11.560 --> 0:28:14.520
<v Speaker 1>I can. But I think I just missed out on right.

0:28:14.800 --> 0:28:16.480
<v Speaker 1>What was So? What what are you doing in life

0:28:16.600 --> 0:28:19.440
<v Speaker 1>right now? Man? Before we start pepping you with other questions.

0:28:20.600 --> 0:28:24.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm working with real estate. I'm a real estate broker

0:28:25.400 --> 0:28:30.200
<v Speaker 1>and I've been doing that for probably about eighteen nineteen years.

0:28:30.800 --> 0:28:33.960
<v Speaker 1>But I'm I'm about to get out of it because

0:28:34.000 --> 0:28:40.200
<v Speaker 1>it's just, uh, it's it's a tough business, right, Wow,

0:28:41.040 --> 0:28:44.719
<v Speaker 1>eighteen nineteen years man, a graduate of Rice. I mean,

0:28:44.840 --> 0:28:47.360
<v Speaker 1>so we use a business major. You was into heavy

0:28:47.440 --> 0:28:52.880
<v Speaker 1>real estate even in college. Now I am a business major,

0:28:53.440 --> 0:28:57.840
<v Speaker 1>and you know, I've been trying to do it for

0:28:57.960 --> 0:29:01.760
<v Speaker 1>a kid and so, you know, just like everybody else,

0:29:01.800 --> 0:29:05.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean we we uh we all you know have

0:29:05.920 --> 0:29:10.080
<v Speaker 1>to do something. I have to Football's right, That's what

0:29:10.160 --> 0:29:14.680
<v Speaker 1>I've been doing. You're still in the DFW area. He's

0:29:14.680 --> 0:29:19.120
<v Speaker 1>a high schoolers from South Oak Cliffs, all right. I was.

0:29:19.280 --> 0:29:24.280
<v Speaker 1>I was born in Parkland Hospital, so I'm not going

0:29:24.360 --> 0:29:30.240
<v Speaker 1>anywhere and uh, like Nate said, I went to high

0:29:30.280 --> 0:29:35.800
<v Speaker 1>school here. Uh been here. My whole life really uh

0:29:36.560 --> 0:29:41.280
<v Speaker 1>went down the rice uh in Houston, Texas, uh for college,

0:29:41.280 --> 0:29:44.360
<v Speaker 1>and I came right back to Dallas as soon as

0:29:44.400 --> 0:29:47.520
<v Speaker 1>I could. I was. I was surprised. I mean, you

0:29:47.560 --> 0:29:49.840
<v Speaker 1>were part of that rookie class with Everson Walls, right,

0:29:49.920 --> 0:29:54.560
<v Speaker 1>so yeah, and everything gets all the glory, I guess

0:29:54.600 --> 0:29:56.960
<v Speaker 1>you'd say, because he had eleven interceptions that year. But

0:29:57.600 --> 0:30:01.000
<v Speaker 1>Michael that same season h Finnish seventh in the NFL

0:30:01.080 --> 0:30:03.800
<v Speaker 1>with seven interceptions. I think you were what second on

0:30:03.880 --> 0:30:06.480
<v Speaker 1>the team and tackles and and you were an all

0:30:06.560 --> 0:30:11.480
<v Speaker 1>rookie that year, right, yeah, I was. And uh, don't

0:30:11.560 --> 0:30:18.160
<v Speaker 1>don't forget Dennis Thurman. Dennis had nine interceptions that year

0:30:18.840 --> 0:30:22.640
<v Speaker 1>and had and as a team, I think we had

0:30:24.040 --> 0:30:29.280
<v Speaker 1>thirty some interceptions. Wow, uh cowboys that had thirty interceptions

0:30:29.320 --> 0:30:34.320
<v Speaker 1>in the last ten years combined. Man. And I tell you,

0:30:34.440 --> 0:30:37.000
<v Speaker 1>when when you told me that you wanted to talk

0:30:37.040 --> 0:30:42.320
<v Speaker 1>about the secondary, I felt a little little shot because

0:30:43.720 --> 0:30:47.680
<v Speaker 1>before I'm honest, Uh, I don't have nothing good to

0:30:47.760 --> 0:30:54.320
<v Speaker 1>say about. Well, we're not gonna we we get around

0:30:54.400 --> 0:30:59.880
<v Speaker 1>that hit. But when you when you look at this second,

0:31:00.240 --> 0:31:03.960
<v Speaker 1>without being too critical, what does this secondary need to

0:31:04.080 --> 0:31:06.440
<v Speaker 1>do to become better. Is that our front end need

0:31:06.520 --> 0:31:09.480
<v Speaker 1>to rush better to give them more opportunities? Are Is

0:31:09.520 --> 0:31:12.040
<v Speaker 1>it some some little things that you see that they

0:31:12.080 --> 0:31:16.160
<v Speaker 1>can improve on. Yeah, you did that. That's not the

0:31:16.280 --> 0:31:20.640
<v Speaker 1>number one thing, is uh just getting more pressure on

0:31:20.720 --> 0:31:27.520
<v Speaker 1>the quarterback? Uh? And but also you know the guys

0:31:27.560 --> 0:31:32.080
<v Speaker 1>out there in the secondary, Uh, they just need to

0:31:32.160 --> 0:31:37.160
<v Speaker 1>be more aggressive. And I don't know, you know, if

0:31:37.200 --> 0:31:41.400
<v Speaker 1>they play zone or man and man or whatever, because

0:31:41.440 --> 0:31:46.200
<v Speaker 1>it's really kind of hard to tell from from tv. Uh,

0:31:47.040 --> 0:31:52.360
<v Speaker 1>but I think they need to be more aggressive on

0:31:52.840 --> 0:31:57.840
<v Speaker 1>their end and uh, you know, and that and that's

0:31:57.920 --> 0:32:00.560
<v Speaker 1>kind of easy to sit up somebody you're saying being

0:32:00.600 --> 0:32:03.680
<v Speaker 1>more aggressive, like, uh, one, don't one coverage, just get

0:32:03.800 --> 0:32:07.040
<v Speaker 1>closer to the guy, press up on them a little bit. Uh,

0:32:07.840 --> 0:32:11.320
<v Speaker 1>Is that what you're saying there? Yeah, and you know

0:32:12.320 --> 0:32:17.160
<v Speaker 1>it's not all about just interceptions, but you know you

0:32:17.280 --> 0:32:23.920
<v Speaker 1>got knocked downs too, and so um, I just I

0:32:24.080 --> 0:32:28.480
<v Speaker 1>just I just see, you know, watching the game from television,

0:32:28.520 --> 0:32:34.240
<v Speaker 1>Like I said before, Uh, the guys, you know, the

0:32:34.400 --> 0:32:39.520
<v Speaker 1>wide receivers touching passes and defensive black is not even

0:32:39.640 --> 0:32:42.520
<v Speaker 1>close to him, you know, and men, even though it's

0:32:42.560 --> 0:32:46.680
<v Speaker 1>the same thing I tell people we don't have. We

0:32:46.800 --> 0:32:50.360
<v Speaker 1>don't make the windows small enough for the court for

0:32:50.440 --> 0:32:53.840
<v Speaker 1>the opposing quarterbacks, you know, because a lot of times

0:32:53.920 --> 0:32:56.320
<v Speaker 1>you can scare a quarterback off just being in the

0:32:56.480 --> 0:33:00.480
<v Speaker 1>right presentity, right presentity of whether player at in the angle,

0:33:00.520 --> 0:33:02.160
<v Speaker 1>at the quarterback look at it, and that I'll make

0:33:02.200 --> 0:33:04.320
<v Speaker 1>them go away. Sometimes that's what they do to day

0:33:04.400 --> 0:33:08.760
<v Speaker 1>is a lot of times, you know. But I'm with

0:33:08.920 --> 0:33:13.520
<v Speaker 1>you one hundred percent, man. So, but is it anything

0:33:13.800 --> 0:33:16.320
<v Speaker 1>positive that you do see? Do you like the young

0:33:16.400 --> 0:33:19.320
<v Speaker 1>group of guys. Do you think in time they get aggressive?

0:33:19.360 --> 0:33:23.040
<v Speaker 1>How would you look at that? You know? The only

0:33:23.160 --> 0:33:28.240
<v Speaker 1>thing that I I song that I could appreciate was,

0:33:29.840 --> 0:33:38.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, cornerbacks traditionally don't make tackles, and but uh,

0:33:38.760 --> 0:33:46.000
<v Speaker 1>those guys, uh were cockling more than I've seen, you know,

0:33:46.160 --> 0:33:49.880
<v Speaker 1>in a few years from Cowboy second day. So I

0:33:50.040 --> 0:33:54.600
<v Speaker 1>do get them credit for that and just kind of

0:33:54.680 --> 0:33:57.960
<v Speaker 1>hope that they can continue to make the tackles but

0:33:58.680 --> 0:34:02.040
<v Speaker 1>get close to those. Why I achieved was as well, right,

0:34:02.680 --> 0:34:04.440
<v Speaker 1>our guys had to come in this year as rookies

0:34:04.520 --> 0:34:06.600
<v Speaker 1>and kind of you know, sink or swim. What was

0:34:06.640 --> 0:34:08.560
<v Speaker 1>that like for you and Everson that first year. I mean,

0:34:08.760 --> 0:34:10.239
<v Speaker 1>did you ever feel in over your head or was

0:34:10.280 --> 0:34:16.080
<v Speaker 1>it just getting go? You know? And I know Everson

0:34:16.239 --> 0:34:20.439
<v Speaker 1>will will back me up on this. Um. We came

0:34:20.560 --> 0:34:29.000
<v Speaker 1>in under coaching Landry obviously, and that scheme was was

0:34:29.360 --> 0:34:35.600
<v Speaker 1>very difficult to understand because we you know, we might

0:34:35.719 --> 0:34:40.320
<v Speaker 1>line up in one way and by the time the

0:34:40.800 --> 0:34:45.600
<v Speaker 1>ball snaw, you know, we gotta adjust and and do

0:34:45.800 --> 0:34:50.040
<v Speaker 1>something else. And uh, I mean that was all the time,

0:34:50.280 --> 0:34:55.560
<v Speaker 1>and and talking about the famous flex exactly. Yeah. And

0:34:55.840 --> 0:34:59.680
<v Speaker 1>and the flex was you know good in this day. Uh,

0:35:02.400 --> 0:35:05.279
<v Speaker 1>but it was it was difficult. You know. There's a

0:35:05.440 --> 0:35:10.000
<v Speaker 1>lot of guys that I saw when I were coming

0:35:10.080 --> 0:35:18.440
<v Speaker 1>in that I thought good athletes, but they didn't make

0:35:18.520 --> 0:35:25.560
<v Speaker 1>the team because um, you know, they didn't pick it up. Yeah,

0:35:25.560 --> 0:35:28.080
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't pick it up. And and and coach Landry

0:35:28.960 --> 0:35:32.520
<v Speaker 1>was a stickler about you know, like if you if

0:35:32.560 --> 0:35:39.080
<v Speaker 1>you can't understand this, you can't play that bottom line.

0:35:39.880 --> 0:35:46.080
<v Speaker 1>And so we are when we came in. Uh, you know,

0:35:46.160 --> 0:35:51.640
<v Speaker 1>we just I can speak for myself that it was difficult,

0:35:52.280 --> 0:35:59.320
<v Speaker 1>but somehow I understood it. And uh and as a safety,

0:35:59.640 --> 0:36:04.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, we were responsible for helping on the linebackers

0:36:05.000 --> 0:36:09.239
<v Speaker 1>to make the adjustments, you know, to tell everybody they

0:36:09.560 --> 0:36:12.680
<v Speaker 1>were changed, and we're going over there. We're wanted, you know,

0:36:12.880 --> 0:36:18.600
<v Speaker 1>gonna do this and so um. You know, I'm not

0:36:18.840 --> 0:36:22.800
<v Speaker 1>saying I'm I was smarter than anything anybody else. It

0:36:22.960 --> 0:36:26.600
<v Speaker 1>just once I got it, I got it. You know,

0:36:27.120 --> 0:36:29.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm you men. I want to say it, but I

0:36:30.200 --> 0:36:33.680
<v Speaker 1>knew my second year. But if we wouldn't change offensive

0:36:33.719 --> 0:36:36.520
<v Speaker 1>line coaches, I've never been here, bro really, because the

0:36:36.640 --> 0:36:41.279
<v Speaker 1>offense was sent you it was to the point, Mike,

0:36:41.320 --> 0:36:44.399
<v Speaker 1>I understand totally saying. It was to the point where

0:36:44.760 --> 0:36:47.239
<v Speaker 1>as an offensive lineman, if a got moved six or

0:36:47.280 --> 0:36:50.080
<v Speaker 1>seven inches one way or the other, it almost changed

0:36:50.120 --> 0:36:54.600
<v Speaker 1>our whole blocking scheme. If you line up in trips

0:36:55.200 --> 0:36:59.360
<v Speaker 1>three wire receivers the one side, uh, and then you

0:36:59.560 --> 0:37:03.640
<v Speaker 1>motion one of them, guys, our whole secondary would literally

0:37:03.719 --> 0:37:07.960
<v Speaker 1>start screaming stuff out, not only to themselves, which most

0:37:08.000 --> 0:37:10.640
<v Speaker 1>of them knew it, but to the linebackers. Like you said,

0:37:11.320 --> 0:37:14.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, then you know that I'm not here. I'm

0:37:14.080 --> 0:37:17.360
<v Speaker 1>not backing you up. I'm over here now. So I

0:37:17.520 --> 0:37:22.040
<v Speaker 1>used to I used to marvel at guys who would survive.

0:37:22.239 --> 0:37:25.520
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't about where you athletic enough? Gil Brent was

0:37:25.560 --> 0:37:29.680
<v Speaker 1>bringing in athletic guys, but where you from the shoulders up?

0:37:29.719 --> 0:37:34.880
<v Speaker 1>Smart enough to stay here? Right? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, we

0:37:35.080 --> 0:37:37.880
<v Speaker 1>had the best athletes. Believe me, we had to go

0:37:38.000 --> 0:37:39.800
<v Speaker 1>get you off a tennis court. They was getting the

0:37:39.840 --> 0:37:43.720
<v Speaker 1>best athletes. Well, Michael, what do you think about everything

0:37:43.760 --> 0:37:46.040
<v Speaker 1>Wall's nomination near for Hall of Fame? I think that's

0:37:46.080 --> 0:37:50.040
<v Speaker 1>been a long time coming. Yeah, I really do. And

0:37:52.040 --> 0:37:57.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, everything has has done something that no better

0:37:57.360 --> 0:38:01.880
<v Speaker 1>about in the league have done. And that's uh with

0:38:02.040 --> 0:38:07.160
<v Speaker 1>the interceptions, Uh, you lead the league and interceptions three

0:38:07.760 --> 0:38:16.120
<v Speaker 1>separate seasons. Uh, I mean that's uh, that's spectacular, right. Yeah.

0:38:16.280 --> 0:38:20.719
<v Speaker 1>You know when I first met Everson Man, you know,

0:38:21.440 --> 0:38:23.120
<v Speaker 1>some people call Arry, but you would never meet the

0:38:23.200 --> 0:38:26.520
<v Speaker 1>more confident guy and his abilities and who he not

0:38:26.680 --> 0:38:28.440
<v Speaker 1>just as ability is on the football, but who he

0:38:28.640 --> 0:38:31.080
<v Speaker 1>is as a man. If you meet him, you're gonna

0:38:31.120 --> 0:38:33.960
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna meet a guy that feels good about itself

0:38:34.040 --> 0:38:37.799
<v Speaker 1>in his situation, you know. And uh, you know how

0:38:37.920 --> 0:38:41.800
<v Speaker 1>Mike is, um being humble about Walls wouldn't be that helpball,

0:38:44.880 --> 0:38:49.840
<v Speaker 1>you know. And they they I agree with you, and

0:38:50.160 --> 0:38:53.320
<v Speaker 1>and and I was I was just thinking this weekend

0:38:54.960 --> 0:39:02.279
<v Speaker 1>about Everson and I did a memory just popped up

0:39:03.040 --> 0:39:10.280
<v Speaker 1>because and I remembered Everson getting beat UH on pass

0:39:10.320 --> 0:39:12.600
<v Speaker 1>and I can't even remember who who, what team was

0:39:12.760 --> 0:39:18.200
<v Speaker 1>or whatever, but you know, he came over UH to

0:39:18.360 --> 0:39:21.640
<v Speaker 1>the bench and sat down on the bench and he

0:39:21.840 --> 0:39:26.239
<v Speaker 1>just got beat for a touchdown or something. And all

0:39:26.320 --> 0:39:29.800
<v Speaker 1>he said was man and and you know, and I

0:39:30.560 --> 0:39:35.279
<v Speaker 1>kind of expected him to say something marath and you know,

0:39:35.880 --> 0:39:41.640
<v Speaker 1>blame somebody or they've classed or whatever. All he said

0:39:41.760 --> 0:39:51.040
<v Speaker 1>was man and and And to me that was confidence

0:39:51.520 --> 0:39:55.680
<v Speaker 1>because he couldn't believe that happened to him, right, he

0:39:55.760 --> 0:39:58.120
<v Speaker 1>could not believe it. Man, That man was man, I

0:39:58.200 --> 0:40:03.600
<v Speaker 1>got beat Like man, this dude, really, you know, so, oh,

0:40:03.600 --> 0:40:09.640
<v Speaker 1>I understand totally what you're saying is uh, I look back, man,

0:40:09.960 --> 0:40:13.560
<v Speaker 1>and you guys just with great guys. Man, y'all y'all

0:40:13.600 --> 0:40:17.400
<v Speaker 1>played with great confidence. And and I'm this is what

0:40:17.680 --> 0:40:25.280
<v Speaker 1>was so unique was once again a rookie like myself

0:40:25.400 --> 0:40:27.719
<v Speaker 1>or anybody else, that was the first time with coach

0:40:27.840 --> 0:40:30.240
<v Speaker 1>Landry in this schemes because Coach Langer was the offensive

0:40:30.280 --> 0:40:34.200
<v Speaker 1>coordinator and the defensive coordinator. Because he was able to

0:40:34.440 --> 0:40:38.040
<v Speaker 1>look at film and come in on Monday and tell

0:40:38.239 --> 0:40:40.600
<v Speaker 1>and we Mike, they don't know. He's sitting in front

0:40:40.600 --> 0:40:43.640
<v Speaker 1>of each other offensively and defensive, and he coach Landry

0:40:43.680 --> 0:40:46.560
<v Speaker 1>would call you out from the whole team in front

0:40:46.560 --> 0:40:49.120
<v Speaker 1>of the whole team. You remember that, Mike, Oh yeah,

0:40:50.040 --> 0:40:53.799
<v Speaker 1>you know. It used to be funny. Man. Like Belichick

0:40:53.920 --> 0:40:56.200
<v Speaker 1>does with his team, he would call you had to

0:40:56.280 --> 0:40:59.640
<v Speaker 1>be responsible for your teammates. And they're gonna call that

0:41:00.040 --> 0:41:03.120
<v Speaker 1>right here, Randy. The Sporters took it because it was

0:41:03.200 --> 0:41:06.840
<v Speaker 1>so weird. I listened to the defense. It was so weird.

0:41:07.160 --> 0:41:09.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, why wouldn't he take a step inside when

0:41:09.640 --> 0:41:11.960
<v Speaker 1>the play going outside? But he had to take that

0:41:12.040 --> 0:41:15.040
<v Speaker 1>step inside because the linebacker was going outside on the

0:41:15.080 --> 0:41:17.840
<v Speaker 1>initial read. Now you had to take your steps first,

0:41:18.360 --> 0:41:19.880
<v Speaker 1>you know what. I ain't think, man, this don't make

0:41:19.960 --> 0:41:26.120
<v Speaker 1>no sense. I see the ball going outside. Hey, Michael,

0:41:26.160 --> 0:41:31.080
<v Speaker 1>do you have a a podcast friendly Nate Newton story

0:41:31.200 --> 0:41:35.240
<v Speaker 1>that you can share with us? There we go, Nah, Gus,

0:41:36.800 --> 0:41:39.600
<v Speaker 1>I can't imagine that all these old veterans on the

0:41:39.680 --> 0:41:42.520
<v Speaker 1>team and a young Nate Newton what he think about?

0:41:42.560 --> 0:41:44.680
<v Speaker 1>I was quiet my first year and a half two years.

0:41:44.760 --> 0:41:50.200
<v Speaker 1>I was quiet. Basically, that's true, Michael. I couldn't learn nothing,

0:41:53.360 --> 0:41:56.800
<v Speaker 1>that is true. But I I don't I don't know

0:41:56.880 --> 0:41:59.200
<v Speaker 1>if this is a good one or not. Oh yeah,

0:42:00.120 --> 0:42:06.880
<v Speaker 1>Uh the season that Nate came in, and you know,

0:42:07.000 --> 0:42:12.600
<v Speaker 1>we had uh run for these and all that bench

0:42:12.680 --> 0:42:19.160
<v Speaker 1>press and and uh so you know, to be competitive

0:42:19.239 --> 0:42:25.840
<v Speaker 1>and and par uh there was offensive lineman versus offensive lineman,

0:42:26.840 --> 0:42:35.600
<v Speaker 1>and Nate ended up being the fastest um offensive lineman

0:42:36.920 --> 0:42:41.160
<v Speaker 1>on on our team, and and and and you know,

0:42:41.239 --> 0:42:43.000
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of guys and kind of the wond

0:42:43.239 --> 0:42:49.600
<v Speaker 1>like I ain't got through right, but but we was

0:42:49.680 --> 0:42:53.400
<v Speaker 1>like they ain't gonna give him a chance to start

0:42:53.560 --> 0:42:57.360
<v Speaker 1>or anything. And uh and that was kind of like

0:42:57.520 --> 0:43:03.840
<v Speaker 1>the the joke you know that that that season. But

0:43:04.239 --> 0:43:09.840
<v Speaker 1>we were impressed with me just because athletically, you know,

0:43:10.640 --> 0:43:17.200
<v Speaker 1>I offensive line was around two seventy two sixty yeah,

0:43:17.280 --> 0:43:27.480
<v Speaker 1>two sixty three hundred, the fastest fastest guy, fastest offensive

0:43:27.560 --> 0:43:36.160
<v Speaker 1>lineman on the team, and athletic, I mean, just had

0:43:36.239 --> 0:43:39.480
<v Speaker 1>it all. We saw Mike. Excuse me, so, Mike, but

0:43:39.560 --> 0:43:41.279
<v Speaker 1>see that what I was saying. It took a couple

0:43:41.280 --> 0:43:43.839
<v Speaker 1>of years for you to learn this system and That's

0:43:43.880 --> 0:43:45.920
<v Speaker 1>why I said athletic didn't have nothing to do it

0:43:46.080 --> 0:43:49.080
<v Speaker 1>with it when you first came into coach Landry. Since

0:43:49.200 --> 0:43:52.400
<v Speaker 1>that's why when I saw Downs, I saw Walls, I

0:43:52.480 --> 0:43:57.640
<v Speaker 1>saw Dennis. All these guys were smart, smart players. You know,

0:43:57.840 --> 0:44:01.040
<v Speaker 1>they knew the system. They knew how to uh fornago

0:44:01.120 --> 0:44:05.120
<v Speaker 1>within the system because they didn't always play exactly how

0:44:05.200 --> 0:44:07.439
<v Speaker 1>coach Nanager wanted it, but they had to be smart

0:44:07.520 --> 0:44:09.120
<v Speaker 1>to say, Okay, well this is what I saw, and

0:44:09.160 --> 0:44:11.719
<v Speaker 1>this is what I told a guy, you know, and

0:44:11.800 --> 0:44:14.839
<v Speaker 1>the offense was basically the same. Guys will sit up

0:44:14.880 --> 0:44:17.200
<v Speaker 1>like they're gonna cut him. He don't know the system,

0:44:18.320 --> 0:44:21.400
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna cut him. You know. Well, I'm glad you

0:44:21.640 --> 0:44:24.720
<v Speaker 1>verified because Nate's been telling us from zero to forty

0:44:24.760 --> 0:44:28.839
<v Speaker 1>yards he can beat anybody from zero to ten yards. Bad.

0:44:28.880 --> 0:44:32.120
<v Speaker 1>I extended about forty forty yards like I could be

0:44:32.239 --> 0:44:36.480
<v Speaker 1>sucked up. So, Mike, do you do you do you

0:44:36.680 --> 0:44:40.120
<v Speaker 1>keep in touch with the guys of your when you

0:44:40.280 --> 0:44:43.680
<v Speaker 1>came in like Dennis, and I know you talked to everything,

0:44:43.760 --> 0:44:47.080
<v Speaker 1>but do you keep up with you guys? Yeah, you know,

0:44:47.560 --> 0:44:52.000
<v Speaker 1>it's it's kind of difficult to keep in touch. But

0:44:52.320 --> 0:44:56.719
<v Speaker 1>like I we were talking about earlier about golf. That's

0:44:56.800 --> 0:44:59.480
<v Speaker 1>where I see, you know, most of the guys that

0:44:59.560 --> 0:45:02.759
<v Speaker 1>I played with, and you know Dave Donley, you know,

0:45:02.880 --> 0:45:06.520
<v Speaker 1>he he can play golf every day if they let him.

0:45:07.160 --> 0:45:10.120
<v Speaker 1>And so, uh, you know, I get to see him

0:45:10.280 --> 0:45:18.200
<v Speaker 1>and of course every son and uh you know ta yeah,

0:45:18.320 --> 0:45:24.480
<v Speaker 1>I see two tall uh a lot um And I

0:45:24.600 --> 0:45:33.680
<v Speaker 1>can't think of you getting old. Yeah you say that

0:45:33.800 --> 0:45:40.840
<v Speaker 1>as a joke, but yeah, hey, Michael, how is in

0:45:41.000 --> 0:45:43.239
<v Speaker 1>your eyes? How is the game changed from when you

0:45:43.360 --> 0:45:45.879
<v Speaker 1>first came into the league to what it is now?

0:45:48.760 --> 0:45:54.080
<v Speaker 1>You know, I think it's it's more because of cool more,

0:45:56.080 --> 0:46:01.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, because all the rules and regulations that have changed.

0:46:02.000 --> 0:46:05.840
<v Speaker 1>And like um, and I can't remember what they called it,

0:46:06.160 --> 0:46:09.560
<v Speaker 1>but when you make a tackle from on the guy

0:46:09.920 --> 0:46:14.840
<v Speaker 1>from behind and you pulled horse collar pars collar, Yeah,

0:46:15.520 --> 0:46:22.480
<v Speaker 1>we we did that every week, you know, so we

0:46:23.040 --> 0:46:28.879
<v Speaker 1>things like that, uh, you know, And and I'm kind

0:46:28.920 --> 0:46:32.160
<v Speaker 1>of glad they changed it because you can't hurt somebody,

0:46:33.360 --> 0:46:39.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, tackling that way. But it's just more physical.

0:46:39.320 --> 0:46:44.040
<v Speaker 1>And I and when I looked back in the seventies,

0:46:44.800 --> 0:46:48.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, with Roger start Back and mail Renflow and

0:46:48.400 --> 0:46:53.279
<v Speaker 1>those guys. Uh, it was the same thing. It was.

0:46:53.600 --> 0:47:00.520
<v Speaker 1>It was more physical, uh than it is now. So

0:47:02.280 --> 0:47:06.400
<v Speaker 1>that's that's that's it is. Uh. Do you there were

0:47:06.440 --> 0:47:10.040
<v Speaker 1>so many interceptions within your era and you had more

0:47:10.120 --> 0:47:13.600
<v Speaker 1>than than than most any one of your era as

0:47:13.640 --> 0:47:17.319
<v Speaker 1>a group. Do you think there are so few now

0:47:17.440 --> 0:47:22.600
<v Speaker 1>because the NFL is so risk averse on offense or

0:47:23.680 --> 0:47:29.200
<v Speaker 1>are people just not talented in that regard the cornerbacks? Yeah,

0:47:29.280 --> 0:47:33.200
<v Speaker 1>I would. I would say it's a little bit of both.

0:47:34.200 --> 0:47:41.359
<v Speaker 1>Um and not that we were that athletes per se,

0:47:41.480 --> 0:47:47.720
<v Speaker 1>but um, we when we thought about we we wanted

0:47:47.800 --> 0:47:50.759
<v Speaker 1>to accept it. We didn't we didn't want to knock

0:47:50.800 --> 0:47:55.880
<v Speaker 1>it down or or whatever, and so you know, my

0:47:55.960 --> 0:48:00.680
<v Speaker 1>mindset was was just different. You know. Uh. We would

0:48:00.719 --> 0:48:07.000
<v Speaker 1>talk before the game about trying to make the interceptions

0:48:07.239 --> 0:48:10.120
<v Speaker 1>and I don't you know, I don't know if they

0:48:10.280 --> 0:48:13.400
<v Speaker 1>do that now because I haven't been around the guys,

0:48:14.360 --> 0:48:18.160
<v Speaker 1>but I mean that was on our mind and so

0:48:18.400 --> 0:48:24.239
<v Speaker 1>I think along with having a good defensive line, but

0:48:25.440 --> 0:48:34.160
<v Speaker 1>our mindset as well created an atmosphere for you worth

0:48:34.560 --> 0:48:38.719
<v Speaker 1>getting more interceptions than anything else. You know, Like we

0:48:38.880 --> 0:48:44.319
<v Speaker 1>talked about earlier, with everything in one year, everything getting

0:48:44.360 --> 0:48:48.320
<v Speaker 1>the leveling and then it's getting nine and I get seven.

0:48:49.840 --> 0:48:52.799
<v Speaker 1>You don't you don't see that no more. Now there's

0:48:52.800 --> 0:48:56.080
<v Speaker 1>a generation of cowboy fans that can't even imagine that

0:48:56.320 --> 0:49:01.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of productivity coming from the cornerbacks. M Yeah, and

0:49:01.760 --> 0:49:05.759
<v Speaker 1>so I I think a lot of it has to

0:49:05.920 --> 0:49:11.840
<v Speaker 1>do with, you know, the way you think. You know,

0:49:12.440 --> 0:49:17.359
<v Speaker 1>if you if you if you just trying to survive, yeah,

0:49:17.400 --> 0:49:21.319
<v Speaker 1>and make a tackle or knock it down, then that's

0:49:21.360 --> 0:49:26.920
<v Speaker 1>probably what you're gonna do. Uh. But you know, we

0:49:28.000 --> 0:49:32.080
<v Speaker 1>and and and I think everything and I kind of

0:49:32.160 --> 0:49:36.839
<v Speaker 1>started up and off. Our first game in eighty one

0:49:37.160 --> 0:49:42.800
<v Speaker 1>was against the red Skins and and in DC, and

0:49:43.200 --> 0:49:48.480
<v Speaker 1>uh I made the first interception. I made an interception

0:49:48.600 --> 0:49:54.279
<v Speaker 1>and uh um, I think within two minutes, you know

0:49:54.520 --> 0:50:00.280
<v Speaker 1>that they were on the field. Uh And and Everson

0:50:00.440 --> 0:50:06.839
<v Speaker 1>wasn't starting at that time, but Everson made two interceptions.

0:50:07.840 --> 0:50:10.759
<v Speaker 1>You know, he was he was a nickel owner and

0:50:10.920 --> 0:50:16.000
<v Speaker 1>he had two interceptions. So we and we won the game,

0:50:16.080 --> 0:50:21.719
<v Speaker 1>of course, but um, just the first game of the year.

0:50:23.040 --> 0:50:26.640
<v Speaker 1>We got a couple of rookies, well actually we had

0:50:26.960 --> 0:50:31.800
<v Speaker 1>Lyon Feller's was a rookie as well. And and we

0:50:33.640 --> 0:50:37.239
<v Speaker 1>I think we ended up with three interceptions. Maybe it

0:50:37.520 --> 0:50:42.480
<v Speaker 1>was four, but that kind of set us the pace too,

0:50:43.440 --> 0:50:48.160
<v Speaker 1>you know what was gonna go on because that's you know,

0:50:48.680 --> 0:50:58.120
<v Speaker 1>we felt good. Yeah, so that was that was fun,

0:50:58.200 --> 0:51:02.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, and it actually started that first game of

0:51:02.160 --> 0:51:05.759
<v Speaker 1>the year and it went on, you know, for the

0:51:05.840 --> 0:51:11.800
<v Speaker 1>whole um season for your career too. Well, Michael, we

0:51:11.880 --> 0:51:14.400
<v Speaker 1>appreciate you hanging out with us for a few minutes.

0:51:14.440 --> 0:51:17.880
<v Speaker 1>This was really cool to have you on. And uh,

0:51:19.680 --> 0:51:22.160
<v Speaker 1>we'll hopefully talk to you soon. Kurse got your numbers,

0:51:22.200 --> 0:51:24.239
<v Speaker 1>so maybe we can get you on in the future things. Mike.

0:51:24.360 --> 0:51:27.279
<v Speaker 1>Good to hear your voice. I was glad. I would

0:51:27.400 --> 0:51:30.560
<v Speaker 1>be glad to do that. And they always good to

0:51:31.040 --> 0:51:35.239
<v Speaker 1>hear from you, man. So let's let's try to hook

0:51:35.360 --> 0:51:36.840
<v Speaker 1>up something, all right. Maybe we can get you in

0:51:36.920 --> 0:51:38.560
<v Speaker 1>here in the studio so you can actually hang out

0:51:38.600 --> 0:51:42.040
<v Speaker 1>with Nate a little bit. Yeah, I'll do that. It's

0:51:42.080 --> 0:51:46.920
<v Speaker 1>one's going to go to Mexico. Man. Well, I thank you, Mike,

0:51:47.040 --> 0:51:50.360
<v Speaker 1>all right, all right, take care. Let's take a quick break.

0:51:50.640 --> 0:51:53.120
<v Speaker 1>And we got about seven or eight minutes left and

0:51:53.120 --> 0:51:54.840
<v Speaker 1>I want to get you know what, don't just go

0:51:54.880 --> 0:51:57.279
<v Speaker 1>ahead and finish the show. Okay, I want to get

0:51:57.320 --> 0:51:59.920
<v Speaker 1>back into what Nate was saying while ago, because I

0:52:00.120 --> 0:52:04.880
<v Speaker 1>agree with Nate. What's that the Tom Brady argument? Everybody's

0:52:04.920 --> 0:52:07.319
<v Speaker 1>sick and tired of Tom Brady winning. And I'm sitting

0:52:07.360 --> 0:52:10.160
<v Speaker 1>you know what, do something about it. We were witnessing

0:52:10.280 --> 0:52:12.840
<v Speaker 1>greatness like I actually used to. I used to be

0:52:12.920 --> 0:52:15.520
<v Speaker 1>the same way. And then I realized how good this

0:52:15.719 --> 0:52:18.480
<v Speaker 1>cat is. Like at halftime, we were watching the game

0:52:18.520 --> 0:52:21.960
<v Speaker 1>at the sports bar on the property there in Mexico. Halftime,

0:52:22.040 --> 0:52:26.120
<v Speaker 1>I was like, they've been outplayed the whole game. They

0:52:26.160 --> 0:52:28.600
<v Speaker 1>can't move the balls, like the y'all realize they're winning

0:52:28.600 --> 0:52:30.400
<v Speaker 1>the game. The Patriots are gonna win this game. Like

0:52:30.480 --> 0:52:32.480
<v Speaker 1>there was no doubt in my mind. That's how good

0:52:32.520 --> 0:52:34.920
<v Speaker 1>he is. And let me tell you how funny this is.

0:52:36.000 --> 0:52:38.880
<v Speaker 1>And and this is when I really really noticed it.

0:52:41.160 --> 0:52:44.360
<v Speaker 1>The Seattle Seahawks. You could have ran the ball in

0:52:44.560 --> 0:52:47.480
<v Speaker 1>one yard. You want to be super smart, get an interception,

0:52:47.920 --> 0:52:52.479
<v Speaker 1>lose the Super Bowl. You are Atlanta winning the game.

0:52:53.000 --> 0:52:54.400
<v Speaker 1>Oh he had to was run the ball, which you

0:52:54.400 --> 0:52:55.960
<v Speaker 1>want to be. Oh, we're gonna see to who we are.

0:52:56.040 --> 0:53:00.480
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna pass the ball. Guess what The Patriots Okay,

0:53:01.160 --> 0:53:02.759
<v Speaker 1>you want to do it like that, Thank you. We

0:53:02.920 --> 0:53:05.000
<v Speaker 1>just go want to mention and stop your passing game

0:53:05.600 --> 0:53:07.840
<v Speaker 1>or not that you get an end zone. Guess what

0:53:08.200 --> 0:53:11.279
<v Speaker 1>they lose the game? Now you got a run game.

0:53:11.480 --> 0:53:14.440
<v Speaker 1>That's awesome. You've been mixing it up. The young quarterback

0:53:14.880 --> 0:53:17.719
<v Speaker 1>Bortles have been playing lights out. Guess what you're doing.

0:53:17.800 --> 0:53:20.719
<v Speaker 1>First down? You run the ball getting no yards. They're like,

0:53:20.800 --> 0:53:24.000
<v Speaker 1>oh they dummies run the ball again getting no ya.

0:53:24.160 --> 0:53:26.040
<v Speaker 1>Don't you think you should pass on first down? Just

0:53:26.160 --> 0:53:29.400
<v Speaker 1>up one time, try to get seven yards to the

0:53:29.520 --> 0:53:33.799
<v Speaker 1>one and too. So guess what Jacksonville lose. Now, let's

0:53:33.840 --> 0:53:36.640
<v Speaker 1>see what flets the cocks and the balls gonna do.

0:53:37.400 --> 0:53:39.680
<v Speaker 1>Y Nick flos and the balls just flets the cocky.

0:53:40.440 --> 0:53:42.640
<v Speaker 1>They're not giving the Eagles a much chance. It seems like, oh,

0:53:42.680 --> 0:53:44.399
<v Speaker 1>what's the spread? I don't even look. I'm not sure.

0:53:44.440 --> 0:53:45.800
<v Speaker 1>I haven't looked at it all. Look it up. I

0:53:45.920 --> 0:53:48.080
<v Speaker 1>think if the Eagles get on top, they can do

0:53:48.160 --> 0:53:50.759
<v Speaker 1>it differently. I think if the Eagles get on top,

0:53:50.800 --> 0:53:53.240
<v Speaker 1>they can do it differently than than most teams because

0:53:54.000 --> 0:53:56.879
<v Speaker 1>they are defensive minded team, but they also can run

0:53:56.920 --> 0:53:59.080
<v Speaker 1>the ball with you with a gi and the big

0:53:59.200 --> 0:54:02.359
<v Speaker 1>guy that they got from New England. I can't think

0:54:02.400 --> 0:54:04.960
<v Speaker 1>of his name, but Lunt So I think they can

0:54:05.040 --> 0:54:08.040
<v Speaker 1>run the ball equals well. And then Clement's got number thirty.

0:54:08.400 --> 0:54:10.920
<v Speaker 1>Heal a nice guy. All my man gotta do is

0:54:10.960 --> 0:54:14.920
<v Speaker 1>not panic. Nick Foles, just don't panic like uh my

0:54:15.040 --> 0:54:18.600
<v Speaker 1>boy to fight him's case. Kingdom finally showed up the truth.

0:54:19.080 --> 0:54:21.880
<v Speaker 1>It took him sixteen took away eighteen games, and the

0:54:21.960 --> 0:54:25.680
<v Speaker 1>true case Kingdom finally show And I'll tell you what, man,

0:54:25.719 --> 0:54:29.160
<v Speaker 1>I bet Carson Wentz is just sick because you know

0:54:29.280 --> 0:54:32.120
<v Speaker 1>how hard it is to get to him. He got

0:54:32.239 --> 0:54:34.319
<v Speaker 1>that team to a super Bowl. He knew he hadn't

0:54:34.320 --> 0:54:37.440
<v Speaker 1>played the last what three games, and him to sit

0:54:37.480 --> 0:54:40.080
<v Speaker 1>there and watch and just know like this, this could

0:54:40.120 --> 0:54:42.320
<v Speaker 1>have been my shot. It might have been his only chance.

0:54:42.880 --> 0:54:48.160
<v Speaker 1>So but I with you, Nate, like I just I'm

0:54:48.200 --> 0:54:52.520
<v Speaker 1>just appreciate. I appreciate what you see. I appreciate, you know,

0:54:54.400 --> 0:54:57.920
<v Speaker 1>like even the Golden State Warriors, you know, Kevin and

0:54:58.040 --> 0:55:03.800
<v Speaker 1>Kevin Garnett. He he's so loed. He well where he

0:55:04.160 --> 0:55:08.480
<v Speaker 1>was once setting out for him. So I'll tell you what, man,

0:55:08.640 --> 0:55:13.839
<v Speaker 1>you know what, I'm gonna leave the Thunder. You gonna

0:55:13.840 --> 0:55:16.279
<v Speaker 1>play for Detroit, I'm gonna show everybody who I am.

0:55:16.480 --> 0:55:20.600
<v Speaker 1>That's stupid. Why not go to the Warriors. You can

0:55:20.680 --> 0:55:23.320
<v Speaker 1>get what I'm saying. And so my greatness thing is

0:55:23.360 --> 0:55:30.000
<v Speaker 1>simple to this right here. Birthhead, Rex Birthhead, He's like

0:55:30.320 --> 0:55:33.480
<v Speaker 1>He called New England. Hey, man, coach, I know you

0:55:33.600 --> 0:55:35.719
<v Speaker 1>know how to use me. He called Belisha, I know

0:55:35.880 --> 0:55:38.319
<v Speaker 1>you know how to use me. Let me come play

0:55:38.360 --> 0:55:42.560
<v Speaker 1>for y'all. Why would Rex Birkhead League one play? Said, man,

0:55:42.680 --> 0:55:44.960
<v Speaker 1>let me go to Cleveland. Let me show everybody who

0:55:44.960 --> 0:55:47.480
<v Speaker 1>I am. Yea. The people that criticize those people or

0:55:47.520 --> 0:55:50.719
<v Speaker 1>the same people that would do it exactly like they're Oh, man,

0:55:50.800 --> 0:55:52.319
<v Speaker 1>I would never do that. You don't want to win

0:55:52.360 --> 0:55:58.759
<v Speaker 1>a super Bowl? People hope that the day of I'm

0:55:58.800 --> 0:56:02.080
<v Speaker 1>gonna build this team is over that went out? Would

0:56:02.120 --> 0:56:07.279
<v Speaker 1>call free agency made that obsolete. When you give a

0:56:07.360 --> 0:56:09.920
<v Speaker 1>guy a chance to say, I'm gonna make twenty five

0:56:10.000 --> 0:56:13.399
<v Speaker 1>million dollars a year next to a guy that's gonna

0:56:13.400 --> 0:56:16.480
<v Speaker 1>help me win a Super Bowl or NBA Championship or

0:56:17.040 --> 0:56:20.719
<v Speaker 1>Baseball World Series versus nah, I'm gonna take twenty five

0:56:20.840 --> 0:56:23.680
<v Speaker 1>meal and just go over him and be a statistical

0:56:23.800 --> 0:56:26.879
<v Speaker 1>genius and lose the rest of my career. Come on, man,

0:56:27.320 --> 0:56:30.799
<v Speaker 1>it happens though a lot of guys look at the money. Yeah,

0:56:30.920 --> 0:56:32.480
<v Speaker 1>they go for the money. They used the budding. I

0:56:32.560 --> 0:56:35.200
<v Speaker 1>mean that first contract after my rookie one. I'm gonna

0:56:35.200 --> 0:56:38.200
<v Speaker 1>get the money and then I'm gonna go play. Gotta

0:56:38.200 --> 0:56:39.799
<v Speaker 1>go even you gotta play. And it depends on how

0:56:39.880 --> 0:56:42.600
<v Speaker 1>much money we're talking about, like if if it's if

0:56:42.640 --> 0:56:45.480
<v Speaker 1>it's brother. Basketball is different. You don't have to even

0:56:45.640 --> 0:56:48.200
<v Speaker 1>have this debate. Football, you have to have a fate

0:56:48.280 --> 0:56:51.160
<v Speaker 1>depending on who's got what up under the cap. You

0:56:51.200 --> 0:56:53.680
<v Speaker 1>don't have to have a debate. In basketball. People can

0:56:53.800 --> 0:56:56.439
<v Speaker 1>know that your contract coming up and they're gonna dump

0:56:56.560 --> 0:56:59.960
<v Speaker 1>for you know, they started playing in a couple of years.

0:57:00.200 --> 0:57:03.279
<v Speaker 1>The Warrior's right. Okay, they saw two years ago that

0:57:03.440 --> 0:57:07.839
<v Speaker 1>Durant was coming up, so they the great Uh Jerry West, Hey,

0:57:07.880 --> 0:57:11.239
<v Speaker 1>look man, we need for you to do like you

0:57:11.320 --> 0:57:13.040
<v Speaker 1>did when you win and got shocked. We need for

0:57:13.080 --> 0:57:14.480
<v Speaker 1>you to do that when you win and got this

0:57:14.680 --> 0:57:17.680
<v Speaker 1>guy Paul Kasaul. He did this ain't something Jerry West

0:57:17.760 --> 0:57:20.600
<v Speaker 1>just started doing. He knows how to go talk to

0:57:20.720 --> 0:57:22.760
<v Speaker 1>a dude and they're like, Hey, we need for you

0:57:22.920 --> 0:57:25.600
<v Speaker 1>to go get Durant. And so they all the madly

0:57:25.640 --> 0:57:28.080
<v Speaker 1>knew the guys they was getting in trading for they

0:57:28.160 --> 0:57:30.640
<v Speaker 1>already making. And even if they knew, if they would

0:57:30.640 --> 0:57:32.919
<v Speaker 1>have failed and not got the rant, the t would

0:57:32.920 --> 0:57:36.440
<v Speaker 1>have still been good enough to be challenging for NBA Championship.

0:57:36.600 --> 0:57:38.360
<v Speaker 1>They just wanted to seal the faith of the rest

0:57:38.400 --> 0:57:41.520
<v Speaker 1>of the league, you know, not me. And I get

0:57:41.600 --> 0:57:47.480
<v Speaker 1>an arguments with guys about this because Lebron is fighting

0:57:47.520 --> 0:57:50.760
<v Speaker 1>a battle by himself. Because I tell people saying, y'all

0:57:50.880 --> 0:57:56.080
<v Speaker 1>keep looking at the NFC of the East Finals. Lebron

0:57:56.160 --> 0:57:59.480
<v Speaker 1>ain't looking at the East. He looking at how can

0:57:59.560 --> 0:58:04.600
<v Speaker 1>I be the Warriors? And so most fans you ought

0:58:04.640 --> 0:58:10.919
<v Speaker 1>to be satisfied. No losers are satisfied. Winners want to win.

0:58:11.720 --> 0:58:13.520
<v Speaker 1>The Cowboys should be looking how to beat the Patriots,

0:58:13.600 --> 0:58:17.440
<v Speaker 1>on how to beat the but it steps. It's always steps.

0:58:17.480 --> 0:58:20.440
<v Speaker 1>That's why Lebron left Cleveland. He knew he couldn't make

0:58:20.520 --> 0:58:22.920
<v Speaker 1>that happen in Cleveland, so he left and went to

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<v Speaker 1>Miami and learned from one of the great guys that

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<v Speaker 1>what's the gym for the I can't think of the

0:58:29.840 --> 0:58:32.120
<v Speaker 1>gym for that. Pat Rollins one of the best that

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<v Speaker 1>building the team and nothing. And he showed his cat

0:58:35.080 --> 0:58:37.000
<v Speaker 1>how to build a team. Then he took off. He

0:58:37.080 --> 0:58:39.360
<v Speaker 1>went back to Cleveland and put him a team in place.

0:58:39.600 --> 0:58:42.800
<v Speaker 1>But he know like, oh man, I can't beat I

0:58:42.920 --> 0:58:45.440
<v Speaker 1>can't beat Durant. I had it, I had it. I

0:58:45.560 --> 0:58:48.760
<v Speaker 1>figured out how to get Lotok Curry, how to how

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<v Speaker 1>to play him, But you can't figure out how to

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<v Speaker 1>play U Kevin Durant. He needed another. That's why he

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<v Speaker 1>wanted Paul George because he needed somebody that could stand up,

0:58:58.040 --> 0:59:01.400
<v Speaker 1>play defense and pressure. I'm on the other end when

0:59:01.480 --> 0:59:04.160
<v Speaker 1>it's time for him to play defense. So when you're

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<v Speaker 1>building a team and you and you in the right league,

0:59:08.040 --> 0:59:10.640
<v Speaker 1>the NBA is the right league. If you're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>build a quick fit, instant team, the NBA is the

0:59:13.720 --> 0:59:18.480
<v Speaker 1>right league. But you still got some preparation. It's four

0:59:18.480 --> 0:59:21.200
<v Speaker 1>and a half Patriots. That's it. It's dropped a little bit.

0:59:21.600 --> 0:59:23.360
<v Speaker 1>It was I think it opened like a five or six,

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<v Speaker 1>and how it's four and a half? Who you got? Patriots?

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<v Speaker 1>Tired of him? Think's gonna win? N I ain't going

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<v Speaker 1>against Tom Brady, ain't going against the people that you

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<v Speaker 1>can get any excuse you want until you take it,

0:59:40.200 --> 0:59:43.600
<v Speaker 1>and even next year, you gotta take it twice. For

0:59:43.720 --> 0:59:46.880
<v Speaker 1>me to be the man, you gotta beat the man twice. Yeah,

0:59:46.960 --> 0:59:49.800
<v Speaker 1>you got used the man who you got, Douglas. Like

0:59:49.920 --> 0:59:52.360
<v Speaker 1>the brothers said in the street, you could be bad.

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<v Speaker 1>You can talk that over the police, y'all. You want

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<v Speaker 1>to the pool, ye over? That's right? Yeah, that used

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<v Speaker 1>the man who you got. Oh, I'm gonna I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>take that wisdom from Nate and apply it to my life.

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<v Speaker 1>But I will go with the Patriots all four unanimous.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why that's why the Eagles get has got

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<v Speaker 1>a chance, right, that's all. They played the game right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe me. If if that Monday, if they win,

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<v Speaker 1>if the Eagles win, I'm gonna be excited because the

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<v Speaker 1>NFC East one. So I'm kind of like that. If

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<v Speaker 1>I love my division, I hate my division, but I

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<v Speaker 1>love my division. I hate the Eagles. Can't stand in

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<v Speaker 1>New York Giants, I do something bad to the Red skin.

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<v Speaker 1>But if we win a Super Bowl, I'm down with

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<v Speaker 1>the East. There you go, Well, I missed you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Glad you're back. Good news is I'll be back next Monday. Good.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you can get us another guest. See what

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<v Speaker 1>we can do. You only seem to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>do that whenever I'm not here. Doesn't have to be

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<v Speaker 1>next week. But he's got to get James Washington. That

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<v Speaker 1>guy's name has come up so much and we know

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<v Speaker 1>he's a good guest. Who's drive by Jane Washes found

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<v Speaker 1>another dude in the Senior Bowl. Well, Kurt, thanks, Well, no,

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<v Speaker 1>Douglas gotta find us somebody. Everybody that got somebody except

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<v Speaker 1>Douglas really really challenge. That's what she said. I pull

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<v Speaker 1>them out the closet, pull them out. Whoa that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of show? Now, Douglas Douglas, thanks for pushing the buttons

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<v Speaker 1>with a guess. Thanks for right, Thanks for bringing it

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<v Speaker 1>as usual. Kent, thanks for pushing the buttons. We will

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<v Speaker 1>It's eleven o'clock on Mondays, even o'clock. Try to be

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<v Speaker 1>on top. I will be here on fooling around with

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<v Speaker 1>some young ladies. That been No. I will do the work.

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<v Speaker 1>So we will see you guys. That's X meet yeah

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<v Speaker 1>next Monday. Hang you with the boys. This has been

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