Speaker 1: Before listening, ask good doctor, if your heart is healthy
Speaker 1: enough for Dallas Cowboys football. He's hanging with the Boys,
Speaker 1: broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star
Speaker 1: in Frisco. Now your host, Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, and
Speaker 1: Shannon Gross. Whoa man, it has been a long time,
Speaker 1: so long that I forgot that we moved to Mondays
Speaker 1: and that we're at eleven o'clock. I thought we were
Speaker 1: still in the afternoon. Kurt heading on Mexican time. Kurt
Speaker 1: head to text me and say, are you coming? And
Speaker 1: then I got here and we lost Douglas still in Mexico,
Speaker 1: Still in Mexico. How you boys been good? Great? Man,
Speaker 1: we've been been great. You look good? Yeah? You all good? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you look good. Nate, Yeah, man, we've just been We've
Speaker 1: just been, you know, moving along. And he took a
Speaker 1: vote while he was going. I don't love his good
Speaker 1: news bad news. Uh. I'm surprised Kurt didn't do what
Speaker 1: we talked about. Uh, you'll seat right there. That's what
Speaker 1: Kurt supposed to be. I heard, so I heard. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying we took a vote between the three three
Speaker 1: guys that were left here. For a whole week. I
Speaker 1: hear that I missed one show and Kurt actually did
Speaker 1: something and got the big man. Actually, I actually did something, Hey,
Speaker 1: National Headlines while I went out and got mister Jones,
Speaker 1: Stephen Jones, and h and we asked them some pretty
Speaker 1: good questions. I heard, I heard Nate came out hot. Well,
Speaker 1: I aren't y'all guys me as much as I'm I'm
Speaker 1: a big Cowboy fan. It may not be the first question,
Speaker 1: but it's always a sudden question. Hey man, what we're
Speaker 1: gonna do with dad? And I'm saying okay, And when
Speaker 1: he Kurt hit me with like, mister Jones gonna be on,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I gotta asks normal. I stayed away from
Speaker 1: the hard question, but I want to be able to
Speaker 1: give our fans are on his answer, you know, instead
Speaker 1: of saying, well I don't know what I well, this
Speaker 1: is what the man said, you know, so uh man,
Speaker 1: it was nice he went and got it, man, And
Speaker 1: but you know what he took off. He wanted to
Speaker 1: He wanted to get this started. You could tell how
Speaker 1: mister Jones answered the question. He wanted to get it
Speaker 1: started because I think that they're gonna have conversations with
Speaker 1: Dad's to fill him out and vice versa, and whatever comes,
Speaker 1: whether it's a reduction and pay page stay the same
Speaker 1: or whatever. I think they He wanted that to be
Speaker 1: on Dad's in his people's mind as well as his own,
Speaker 1: him and his father and coach his mind. Uh. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't know how big it was thanks to Kurt.
Speaker 1: And I don't keep saying that thanks to Kurt, because yeah,
Speaker 1: I ain't know how big it would be. And so
Speaker 1: I walked and to do some other shows and everybody like, man,
Speaker 1: that was a great podcast. What are you saying? I mean,
Speaker 1: what podcast? Yeah? And so it was nice, man. So
Speaker 1: that was a great It was a great deal. It
Speaker 1: was a great gift for what Kurt did because you know,
Speaker 1: you asked the questions and that was what important. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm on an airplane coming back from Mexico on the runway,
Speaker 1: waiting to take off, and I get a text it says,
Speaker 1: you know, being in skin or talking about your podcast
Speaker 1: on their show, and I'm like, oh, what we do wrong?
Speaker 1: What we do? Oh? Man? Then we were Yeah, guys
Speaker 1: were everywhere, Kurt, do more? Do that more? Often? Speaking
Speaker 1: of you lined up another guest today, right, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think hopefully here in a little bit, we're gonna have
Speaker 1: Michael Down's call in. I'm gonna talk a little bit.
Speaker 1: He was a part of Thurman Steves your team and
Speaker 1: at Everson Walls. With Everson Walls being up for the
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame here on Saturday, we're gonna talk to
Speaker 1: him a little bit about that and he actually, let's go, Curt,
Speaker 1: let's go. I'm looking forward to getting his thoughts too.
Speaker 1: He was he was a stud state safety as well,
Speaker 1: so I'd like to hear what he kind of thinks
Speaker 1: about the current secondary as well. Let's go. But wow,
Speaker 1: it's just been help you enjoyed yourself? Man, Not for
Speaker 1: real because because you're gone. No, no, no no, because
Speaker 1: uh we we we've we haven't heard from the fans.
Speaker 1: One thing we haven't heard from the fans left, should
Speaker 1: we should we hear from them? Yeah, from the fans.
Speaker 1: I'm for real because we we we we planned even
Speaker 1: last week, but then when missus Jones took off with it,
Speaker 1: it takes precedent. Yeah, so we we was like, wow,
Speaker 1: you know so eight eight eight eight five five two
Speaker 1: two nine seven, I don't even have anything to write
Speaker 1: with I'm about the bar this eight eight eight, eight
Speaker 1: five five two two nine seven. Yeah. So we went
Speaker 1: to the Senior Bowl, and you know, I was, how
Speaker 1: was that? Man? It's always nice And this is the
Speaker 1: first time that I did not have a position, I
Speaker 1: mean a true position. Like one year was looking at
Speaker 1: offensive linement, look at you know, one next year to
Speaker 1: look at look at the quarterbacks, or look at this
Speaker 1: position where you just locked in, you know, uh, looking
Speaker 1: at a certain position. Whereas this year here, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm maintaining that we needed, we need every position whatever. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we needed, we needed all we need. We need playmakers,
Speaker 1: We need guys that can make a difference. We need
Speaker 1: guys that if something happened to one eyes frontline guys
Speaker 1: that they can least fill the role for a game
Speaker 1: or two and will not have a major disaster. You know,
Speaker 1: who are some of the guys that that people were
Speaker 1: some of the buzz buzz name but you know, the
Speaker 1: the Josh Allens and the Baker Mayfields that that that was,
Speaker 1: you know, and I didn't even realize that Josh Allen
Speaker 1: was kind of there at first. You know, he threw
Speaker 1: reil the first day. Second day was Baker Mayfield kind
Speaker 1: of did it. Baker Mayfield got some pop to him,
Speaker 1: He got some some swag to him, or some bizzares,
Speaker 1: whatever words you want to call it. You know, he
Speaker 1: he got a little bit of that about him. But uh,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you his his little partner or the
Speaker 1: running back. I can't, I can't think of his name.
Speaker 1: Let me find him. It's a little running back, bron
Speaker 1: for real, for real. I think his name is Flowers,
Speaker 1: the running back, fullback, tight end? Didn't brother, Oh was
Speaker 1: that the big guy the tight end? Yeah, if you
Speaker 1: want to Demetrius Flowers, Oklahoma, and uh, it's a guy.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you pronounced this name. Look at number
Speaker 1: thirty one, Timmy, Timmy, his name Flowers. Tell me number
Speaker 1: thirty one's name ogobania acaranquo sounds good. I want you
Speaker 1: to ask broadest about him. I want you to ask
Speaker 1: that young man that sits over opposite broughdest This was
Speaker 1: the naturally meanest guy out there. He's he's a devis
Speaker 1: event for Oklahoma, but he's an outside linebacker. He's a
Speaker 1: Sam linebacker. And he when he did the run defense
Speaker 1: one on one, gets offen his lineman. He was the
Speaker 1: meanest when he did pass rush. He was the meanest
Speaker 1: when they did a team He was just mean. He
Speaker 1: was just irritated about everything, about everything. How long has
Speaker 1: it been since his team's had just a nasty guy,
Speaker 1: just a mean nasty that can play. Yeah, probably rat Yeah,
Speaker 1: probably rat lift. You know, for me, it was for me,
Speaker 1: it was James Washington. For me when I played, you know,
Speaker 1: we called him drive by because any given moment, Bro,
Speaker 1: you can spray the field were either verbally or physically.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, and and uh and this is the
Speaker 1: main thing about James Washington. Graduated from Youth SLA with honors.
Speaker 1: Works for you, sela just the smartest, one of intelligent guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: one of intelligent guys in the world. Get on the
Speaker 1: football field. You're like, this dude ain't never the thug. Yeah,
Speaker 1: serious man, And that's what we need, you know. And
Speaker 1: you got to have that guy, you you got to
Speaker 1: have that guy that plays within the rules of the game.
Speaker 1: But you know, he's always gonna be on the edge.
Speaker 1: You know, he's always gonna be on the edge. Woods
Speaker 1: be that guy. He could be, Well, we'll see, we'll see,
Speaker 1: because he's still in the learning stages because you know
Speaker 1: he wind up as our slot guy. And that ain't
Speaker 1: no joke. That takes. That takes some time to h
Speaker 1: get used to. And so we'll see. But I'm telling you, uh,
Speaker 1: that guy can't pronounce his name. And I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: even try to mess up this kid. He's out. He's
Speaker 1: a defensive end six one two four the from Oklahoma.
Speaker 1: He I'm serious. Now, he got something in him. He
Speaker 1: got something in him now. Whether he can play or
Speaker 1: not on this level, I know he can. He may
Speaker 1: not be a great rush defensive end, but I know
Speaker 1: one thing he can run. He got some attitude and
Speaker 1: you can play him at sam linebacker probably and then
Speaker 1: still let him get in on some pass rush. You know,
Speaker 1: he's nice man, He nice? I mean, And uh, you
Speaker 1: brought up running back while ago. Would you guys be
Speaker 1: mad if they took a running back in the first round? Yes?
Speaker 1: Whoa first round? No? No? No, no, no, third round?
Speaker 1: Be more more like it. Now, I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 1: another guy that uh, And I'm just giving you guys
Speaker 1: that just jumped at me. Her Will Hernandez sixty three
Speaker 1: UTAP guy offensive guard sixty three, three thirty has some
Speaker 1: decent feet, has some nice feet. And see, I don't
Speaker 1: I don't have rounds. I don't know rounds like you
Speaker 1: know said he's dish round. So we'll bring him on,
Speaker 1: you know, let him tell you what projected rounds. These
Speaker 1: guys go at. But when he put his hands on it,
Speaker 1: he was a spark plug, a little spark flug with
Speaker 1: his arms, probably along with his table. And uh, he's
Speaker 1: got a kind of a mean streak too. What's more
Speaker 1: important for you for a guy coming out of college
Speaker 1: to have good feet? As offensive line? When I look
Speaker 1: at officers line from from the from the kicker to
Speaker 1: the Loyd's offensive lineman, feet is the key because all
Speaker 1: of this each other's feet. Yeah, feet is the key
Speaker 1: to all of this. Oh Douglas, I heard you, you
Speaker 1: know so uh yeah, and even Rex when it's fetish feet, yeah,
Speaker 1: he right, feet is the key to all of it.
Speaker 1: And uh when I when I look at guys, you know,
Speaker 1: uh the flowers, Uh it's Kyle Bellinger, Arizona State. He
Speaker 1: is a guy I talked to. I talked to Mike,
Speaker 1: the guy that does the TV. Mike Marshall compiled a
Speaker 1: great list I had to go through. I talked to him.
Speaker 1: They didn't use this guy running back number twenty eight.
Speaker 1: Make sure I'm right. I don't want to be wrong.
Speaker 1: Make sure I'm right. Make sure I'm right. Yeah, Arizona
Speaker 1: State number twenty seven. They did not use him a
Speaker 1: lot his senior year at Arizona State. But in the combine,
Speaker 1: every other ball was going in for the North. Every
Speaker 1: other ball in practice was going to him, whether it
Speaker 1: was running out of the backfield or catching the ball
Speaker 1: out of the backfield. Like I said, I don't I
Speaker 1: don't have no where they should be drafted that. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying guys that jumped out to me, or guys
Speaker 1: that they brought the attention to me through somebody else,
Speaker 1: and I look at them and then and then and
Speaker 1: they stayed on my mind, you know so, Uh, I
Speaker 1: think it was disadvantage. Just the first time I can
Speaker 1: remember since I've been here that none of the coaches
Speaker 1: went that I know of. Well, put us at a
Speaker 1: disadvantage of all. No, No, because a lot of teams,
Speaker 1: the Ravens are known for this. Uh, the Bengals are
Speaker 1: known for this. And now the Bengals coaches have something
Speaker 1: to say. But normally your scouts set the board and
Speaker 1: if they have somebody that's super nice or super good,
Speaker 1: they would say, hey, coach, where you think about this guy?
Speaker 1: They're coach watched the film, the coach doesn't that said,
Speaker 1: I have to be there. What we preach around here
Speaker 1: is our scouting combined. Our scouting department knows what our
Speaker 1: coaches want. So coaches need to get themselves together. We
Speaker 1: got four or five sixty new coaches. They need to
Speaker 1: be getting to know each other so when they get
Speaker 1: on the field they can translate this stuff to the players.
Speaker 1: You know, you can't have new coaches and then twenty
Speaker 1: seven new guys and twenty and the whole and the
Speaker 1: guys that's veterans not knowing what each position coach like
Speaker 1: and don't like. So they needed to stay here and
Speaker 1: get some knowledge on what Jason Garrett and the two
Speaker 1: coordinators preferred. You know, how they're teaching what they want
Speaker 1: and what's their termin Knowledgiest, Kurt, you've been doing any
Speaker 1: research on the Senior Bowl? Now, I don't to be honest,
Speaker 1: I don't worry about these guys too much. Chill their cowboys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I have a hard enough time keeping up with this team,
Speaker 1: so I'm afraid I'm not gonna be a whole lot
Speaker 1: of Trey Matthews number twenty one for ARVN. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying this is what his number was. That you know,
Speaker 1: he stood out a little bit, you know at the
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl doing practice week. You know, just guys like
Speaker 1: that man and hand guy. You know Rodison talked about
Speaker 1: him number nine. He he couldn't be blocked. Really, he
Speaker 1: couldn't be blocked. He couldn't be blocked. Bro not not
Speaker 1: like I said, I don't watch the game, because when
Speaker 1: when're talking about the Senior Ball, I didn't watch that game.
Speaker 1: I mean that that you know that game rally hurts
Speaker 1: a player, you know, even if you don't play well.
Speaker 1: There's so many factors go into getting into getting into
Speaker 1: a week three four deepens man versus a four three
Speaker 1: deepens avan, A one technique that's a that's a clogger
Speaker 1: versus a one technique that's a mover. You know, a
Speaker 1: gap player versus a guy that's that two gaps that
Speaker 1: just stands the gay up and reads. It's just so
Speaker 1: many things that goes into this right here that you're
Speaker 1: asking these kids to learn to by time. Some of
Speaker 1: them gets to the game. Someone mind is blown. Are
Speaker 1: the work out its more important than the game itself? Well,
Speaker 1: what the workouts does is in some scouts that confirm
Speaker 1: or not confirm what they're thinking about this kid. You know,
Speaker 1: for us sometimes with body where their bodies look where
Speaker 1: you think, okay, god, they've been on film. These guys
Speaker 1: six three looks good and then you get there and
Speaker 1: find out he's six one. You know, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: you say, this guy look thick on film. You know,
Speaker 1: get there and I mean thirty pounds light than I thought.
Speaker 1: Was this because you got in better shape or this
Speaker 1: because this besides you've been having all these pads. You know,
Speaker 1: you just get a you know now, like I was
Speaker 1: telling Douglas that some of this stuff. You know, the
Speaker 1: game can help you, but the game rally just hurts you.
Speaker 1: You know. You go down there early and just watch
Speaker 1: the work went out on Tuesday. It was a Tuesday
Speaker 1: and Wednesday and I came on back because I mean Thursday,
Speaker 1: you know, I kind of you kind of see what
Speaker 1: you like and who jump out at you? You know,
Speaker 1: that was a weather down at Mobile. It was nice
Speaker 1: for a change. Wasn't really sixty five I mean sixty
Speaker 1: one fifty nine. Nice. Yeah, he gets some good old
Speaker 1: salt and cooking. Uh. Yeah, I went to one of
Speaker 1: the places. I don't think i'd be going back to
Speaker 1: marked that. We have a story. Yeah, so I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you. And it's another kid, uh from North Carolina,
Speaker 1: Ant number seventy two, Brandon Parker, offensive tackle. He played
Speaker 1: both sides, really he played, you know they had him
Speaker 1: at both He's sixty seven. I mean he like he
Speaker 1: had some nice feet. Now, all of these guards and
Speaker 1: tackles for the average, on the average from the north
Speaker 1: and south, they wasn't as big in this bulky and
Speaker 1: as I thought the guys were last year, and they
Speaker 1: weren't a stiff. Now, I don't know how these guys
Speaker 1: are gonna be rated. You know, brought us and others
Speaker 1: tell us how these guys are rated. But they they were.
Speaker 1: They were lean guys. You know, guys that seem like
Speaker 1: they can grow up in the year or two, you
Speaker 1: know physically, you know, last year, like them googles could
Speaker 1: one much growing to be left. You know, it was
Speaker 1: already there, you know for us, mean, it's just fatties,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Fatties. Yeah, we gotta get
Speaker 1: we gotta get brought us on soon to talk a
Speaker 1: little draft. Speaking of y'all doing the draft issue again
Speaker 1: this year, we are, Yeah, we gotta get rolling on that. Well,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be bigger this year because his draft is
Speaker 1: being is here. Yeah, yes, so it's gonna be bigger. Yeah,
Speaker 1: for you guys all that brought us loves that go
Speaker 1: from what three hundred to five hundred. Well, it's kind
Speaker 1: of up to him how much he's he can how
Speaker 1: much worse out? Yeah, y'all started on it yet, not
Speaker 1: well he has, He's started on some of his stuff.
Speaker 1: But yeah, we we haven't got into the a bit
Speaker 1: it too much yet. I'm gonna tell you a kid,
Speaker 1: Braxton Barrels, wide receiver, a five, nine eighty six from Miami.
Speaker 1: You're talking about the guy that was trying to make
Speaker 1: an impression but the quarterbacks wasn't sharp with their passes.
Speaker 1: This this is number eight. I would really like to
Speaker 1: know where he would go because he's not a big guy.
Speaker 1: But uh, this guy, man, he was trying not to
Speaker 1: drop nothing. He don't care if he had to dive
Speaker 1: over eight folks up uperneath the artificial turf. He didn't care.
Speaker 1: He was trying to care. I'm like, why, I want
Speaker 1: to see what this kid watched up there. We gotta
Speaker 1: go to a quick break, but I want to ask
Speaker 1: y'all a question before we go, because we've talked about
Speaker 1: on this show. With your first pick, you take the
Speaker 1: best player available on the board. And I just said,
Speaker 1: would you be mad if they took a running back?
Speaker 1: And you laughed at me, Kurt, But I did not laugh.
Speaker 1: You kind of laughed, he scoffed. What position would you
Speaker 1: not be cool with them taking in the first round
Speaker 1: this year? Quarterback? You'd be okay with um. You gotta
Speaker 1: move up. It ain't nothing out there. You gotta up
Speaker 1: and pray to pray, pray to God. Is somebody that
Speaker 1: these guys are real? Yeah, you're not gonna do that,
Speaker 1: but just hypothetically, So no running back and no quarterback.
Speaker 1: Other than that, everything's on your board, So yeah, what
Speaker 1: about you, Nate, Everything's on my board. Mike Marshall was
Speaker 1: saying safety, safety, because we got the new UH position coach,
Speaker 1: But I think that that's out of the question because
Speaker 1: he can come in and help fix what we got.
Speaker 1: I think first that's what you try for. Were y'all watching,
Speaker 1: We hadn't talked since since uh playoff weekend. Every time
Speaker 1: y'all saw buried church, were you just like yeah, Nah,
Speaker 1: I kind of get past that real quick because, uh,
Speaker 1: you either good enough of you not you to keep
Speaker 1: this man or you don't like like hitches. You know,
Speaker 1: you either keep hitches or you don't or move on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because you know what many people we can look back home.
Speaker 1: You see a lot us. It's super Bowl a lot
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Speaker 1: get it together, Douglas, What do you guys? What do
Speaker 1: you guys think about the Super Bowl matchup? Here's a
Speaker 1: good question. Yes, Nate's probably not going to answer this.
Speaker 1: I'll ask you, Kurt na Naken answer if he wants
Speaker 1: Betty Will would you rather see Philly win their first
Speaker 1: Super Bowl or Tom Brady just win another one? I
Speaker 1: hope Philly loses for multiple reasons, but I think they
Speaker 1: will burn that city down. You know what, they might
Speaker 1: burn it down, whether they win or lose. It'll be
Speaker 1: crazy up there. What do you what do you think hurt?
Speaker 1: Who you want to see whin? I'm I'm sick of
Speaker 1: the Patriots. I don't really have any So you're rooting
Speaker 1: for the Eagle. I'm not rooting for anybody. You want
Speaker 1: the Eagles to win, don't you don't want the Patriots
Speaker 1: to win? You know It's amazing how how we we
Speaker 1: we just a world of underdogs? Will a whirl of
Speaker 1: for the first one? Will a world of this that another,
Speaker 1: and we don't respect and winning and how hard it
Speaker 1: is to accomplish that. We are witnessing something that will
Speaker 1: probably never happen. Wow, way to go, Kurt. Wait, God,
Speaker 1: I'm glad Jack Hurt taking phone call. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: you get the show. What I just called Michael Downs
Speaker 1: and I got his voicemail. I bet he was calling
Speaker 1: Kurt probably. So so what we have to do. What
Speaker 1: we have to do is it's three teams. I went
Speaker 1: with the Fighting Zimmerman's all. You know, I picked the
Speaker 1: Eagles to win out of the division because of Fletcher Cops.
Speaker 1: But then Fighting Zimmerman's you know, I like coach zim
Speaker 1: So that's who I chose to get into the NFC
Speaker 1: Championship game. But I don't wave on Tom Brady when
Speaker 1: you when you you have to go take it from Tom.
Speaker 1: You have to go beat Tom. And so as much
Speaker 1: as I'm an NFC man in the NFC East, because
Speaker 1: I believe in your division, I believe that if your
Speaker 1: division strong, and if you can go through your division
Speaker 1: and win any ship, prepare you for the for the
Speaker 1: super Bowl. So so here we are, you know, and
Speaker 1: let's see what's happening, man, I mean I will finish
Speaker 1: this discussion to do your thing, hurt. You want to
Speaker 1: do the honors? Sure, no doubt. Hey, don't let him
Speaker 1: get the big head. Now come on to welcome to us.
Speaker 1: Welcome right now is the great Michael Downs For those
Speaker 1: fans out there who need a refresher, he was with
Speaker 1: the team from what eighty one to eighty eight? Yes,
Speaker 1: and a former teammate of Nick Nick Newton. For briefly, Michael,
Speaker 1: you're joined here by Nate Newton, who you know well,
Speaker 1: I assume, and Shannon Gross and our who's our? I'm
Speaker 1: just bombing this great. You're doing a great job. Welcome
Speaker 1: to the show, Michael. Thanks for taking some time with us.
Speaker 1: Thank you, it's my pleasure. I hadn't talked to lady
Speaker 1: of two years. And yeah, man, I'm glad to get
Speaker 1: to talk with you for a minute. What's up, Mike Man,
Speaker 1: because I'm shocked you didn't come there. We had this
Speaker 1: past summer, was it? Dak had the bollet or the
Speaker 1: golf thing? And I saw walls and too tall and
Speaker 1: all of that out there. So where you being? Mike?
Speaker 1: You know, I must have not heard that one right,
Speaker 1: because I usually try to go to those events because
Speaker 1: that's the only time you know, we've we've seen people, yeah,
Speaker 1: get together. So I try to go as much as
Speaker 1: I can. But I think I just missed out on right.
Speaker 1: What was So? What what are you doing in life
Speaker 1: right now? Man? Before we start pepping you with other questions.
Speaker 1: I'm working with real estate. I'm a real estate broker
Speaker 1: and I've been doing that for probably about eighteen nineteen years.
Speaker 1: But I'm I'm about to get out of it because
Speaker 1: it's just, uh, it's it's a tough business, right, Wow,
Speaker 1: eighteen nineteen years man, a graduate of Rice. I mean,
Speaker 1: so we use a business major. You was into heavy
Speaker 1: real estate even in college. Now I am a business major,
Speaker 1: and you know, I've been trying to do it for
Speaker 1: a kid and so, you know, just like everybody else,
Speaker 1: I mean we we uh we all you know have
Speaker 1: to do something. I have to Football's right, That's what
Speaker 1: I've been doing. You're still in the DFW area. He's
Speaker 1: a high schoolers from South Oak Cliffs, all right. I was.
Speaker 1: I was born in Parkland Hospital, so I'm not going
Speaker 1: anywhere and uh, like Nate said, I went to high
Speaker 1: school here. Uh been here. My whole life really uh
Speaker 1: went down the rice uh in Houston, Texas, uh for college,
Speaker 1: and I came right back to Dallas as soon as
Speaker 1: I could. I was. I was surprised. I mean, you
Speaker 1: were part of that rookie class with Everson Walls, right,
Speaker 1: so yeah, and everything gets all the glory, I guess
Speaker 1: you'd say, because he had eleven interceptions that year. But
Speaker 1: Michael that same season h Finnish seventh in the NFL
Speaker 1: with seven interceptions. I think you were what second on
Speaker 1: the team and tackles and and you were an all
Speaker 1: rookie that year, right, yeah, I was. And uh, don't
Speaker 1: don't forget Dennis Thurman. Dennis had nine interceptions that year
Speaker 1: and had and as a team, I think we had
Speaker 1: thirty some interceptions. Wow, uh cowboys that had thirty interceptions
Speaker 1: in the last ten years combined. Man. And I tell you,
Speaker 1: when when you told me that you wanted to talk
Speaker 1: about the secondary, I felt a little little shot because
Speaker 1: before I'm honest, Uh, I don't have nothing good to
Speaker 1: say about. Well, we're not gonna we we get around
Speaker 1: that hit. But when you when you look at this second,
Speaker 1: without being too critical, what does this secondary need to
Speaker 1: do to become better. Is that our front end need
Speaker 1: to rush better to give them more opportunities? Are Is
Speaker 1: it some some little things that you see that they
Speaker 1: can improve on. Yeah, you did that. That's not the
Speaker 1: number one thing, is uh just getting more pressure on
Speaker 1: the quarterback? Uh? And but also you know the guys
Speaker 1: out there in the secondary, Uh, they just need to
Speaker 1: be more aggressive. And I don't know, you know, if
Speaker 1: they play zone or man and man or whatever, because
Speaker 1: it's really kind of hard to tell from from tv. Uh,
Speaker 1: but I think they need to be more aggressive on
Speaker 1: their end and uh, you know, and that and that's
Speaker 1: kind of easy to sit up somebody you're saying being
Speaker 1: more aggressive, like, uh, one, don't one coverage, just get
Speaker 1: closer to the guy, press up on them a little bit. Uh,
Speaker 1: Is that what you're saying there? Yeah, and you know
Speaker 1: it's not all about just interceptions, but you know you
Speaker 1: got knocked downs too, and so um, I just I
Speaker 1: just I just see, you know, watching the game from television,
Speaker 1: Like I said before, Uh, the guys, you know, the
Speaker 1: wide receivers touching passes and defensive black is not even
Speaker 1: close to him, you know, and men, even though it's
Speaker 1: the same thing I tell people we don't have. We
Speaker 1: don't make the windows small enough for the court for
Speaker 1: the opposing quarterbacks, you know, because a lot of times
Speaker 1: you can scare a quarterback off just being in the
Speaker 1: right presentity, right presentity of whether player at in the angle,
Speaker 1: at the quarterback look at it, and that I'll make
Speaker 1: them go away. Sometimes that's what they do to day
Speaker 1: is a lot of times, you know. But I'm with
Speaker 1: you one hundred percent, man. So, but is it anything
Speaker 1: positive that you do see? Do you like the young
Speaker 1: group of guys. Do you think in time they get aggressive?
Speaker 1: How would you look at that? You know? The only
Speaker 1: thing that I I song that I could appreciate was,
Speaker 1: you know, cornerbacks traditionally don't make tackles, and but uh,
Speaker 1: those guys, uh were cockling more than I've seen, you know,
Speaker 1: in a few years from Cowboy second day. So I
Speaker 1: do get them credit for that and just kind of
Speaker 1: hope that they can continue to make the tackles but
Speaker 1: get close to those. Why I achieved was as well, right,
Speaker 1: our guys had to come in this year as rookies
Speaker 1: and kind of you know, sink or swim. What was
Speaker 1: that like for you and Everson that first year. I mean,
Speaker 1: did you ever feel in over your head or was
Speaker 1: it just getting go? You know? And I know Everson
Speaker 1: will will back me up on this. Um. We came
Speaker 1: in under coaching Landry obviously, and that scheme was was
Speaker 1: very difficult to understand because we you know, we might
Speaker 1: line up in one way and by the time the
Speaker 1: ball snaw, you know, we gotta adjust and and do
Speaker 1: something else. And uh, I mean that was all the time,
Speaker 1: and and talking about the famous flex exactly. Yeah. And
Speaker 1: and the flex was you know good in this day. Uh,
Speaker 1: but it was it was difficult. You know. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of guys that I saw when I were coming
Speaker 1: in that I thought good athletes, but they didn't make
Speaker 1: the team because um, you know, they didn't pick it up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I couldn't pick it up. And and and coach Landry
Speaker 1: was a stickler about you know, like if you if
Speaker 1: you can't understand this, you can't play that bottom line.
Speaker 1: And so we are when we came in. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: we just I can speak for myself that it was difficult,
Speaker 1: but somehow I understood it. And uh and as a safety,
Speaker 1: you know, we were responsible for helping on the linebackers
Speaker 1: to make the adjustments, you know, to tell everybody they
Speaker 1: were changed, and we're going over there. We're wanted, you know,
Speaker 1: gonna do this and so um. You know, I'm not
Speaker 1: saying I'm I was smarter than anything anybody else. It
Speaker 1: just once I got it, I got it. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm you men. I want to say it, but I
Speaker 1: knew my second year. But if we wouldn't change offensive
Speaker 1: line coaches, I've never been here, bro really, because the
Speaker 1: offense was sent you it was to the point, Mike,
Speaker 1: I understand totally saying. It was to the point where
Speaker 1: as an offensive lineman, if a got moved six or
Speaker 1: seven inches one way or the other, it almost changed
Speaker 1: our whole blocking scheme. If you line up in trips
Speaker 1: three wire receivers the one side, uh, and then you
Speaker 1: motion one of them, guys, our whole secondary would literally
Speaker 1: start screaming stuff out, not only to themselves, which most
Speaker 1: of them knew it, but to the linebackers. Like you said,
Speaker 1: you know, then you know that I'm not here. I'm
Speaker 1: not backing you up. I'm over here now. So I
Speaker 1: used to I used to marvel at guys who would survive.
Speaker 1: It wasn't about where you athletic enough? Gil Brent was
Speaker 1: bringing in athletic guys, but where you from the shoulders up?
Speaker 1: Smart enough to stay here? Right? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, we
Speaker 1: had the best athletes. Believe me, we had to go
Speaker 1: get you off a tennis court. They was getting the
Speaker 1: best athletes. Well, Michael, what do you think about everything
Speaker 1: Wall's nomination near for Hall of Fame? I think that's
Speaker 1: been a long time coming. Yeah, I really do. And
Speaker 1: you know, everything has has done something that no better
Speaker 1: about in the league have done. And that's uh with
Speaker 1: the interceptions, Uh, you lead the league and interceptions three
Speaker 1: separate seasons. Uh, I mean that's uh, that's spectacular, right. Yeah.
Speaker 1: You know when I first met Everson Man, you know,
Speaker 1: some people call Arry, but you would never meet the
Speaker 1: more confident guy and his abilities and who he not
Speaker 1: just as ability is on the football, but who he
Speaker 1: is as a man. If you meet him, you're gonna
Speaker 1: You're gonna meet a guy that feels good about itself
Speaker 1: in his situation, you know. And uh, you know how
Speaker 1: Mike is, um being humble about Walls wouldn't be that helpball,
Speaker 1: you know. And they they I agree with you, and
Speaker 1: and and I was I was just thinking this weekend
Speaker 1: about Everson and I did a memory just popped up
Speaker 1: because and I remembered Everson getting beat UH on pass
Speaker 1: and I can't even remember who who, what team was
Speaker 1: or whatever, but you know, he came over UH to
Speaker 1: the bench and sat down on the bench and he
Speaker 1: just got beat for a touchdown or something. And all
Speaker 1: he said was man and and you know, and I
Speaker 1: kind of expected him to say something marath and you know,
Speaker 1: blame somebody or they've classed or whatever. All he said
Speaker 1: was man and and And to me that was confidence
Speaker 1: because he couldn't believe that happened to him, right, he
Speaker 1: could not believe it. Man, That man was man, I
Speaker 1: got beat Like man, this dude, really, you know, so, oh,
Speaker 1: I understand totally what you're saying is uh, I look back, man,
Speaker 1: and you guys just with great guys. Man, y'all y'all
Speaker 1: played with great confidence. And and I'm this is what
Speaker 1: was so unique was once again a rookie like myself
Speaker 1: or anybody else, that was the first time with coach
Speaker 1: Landry in this schemes because Coach Langer was the offensive
Speaker 1: coordinator and the defensive coordinator. Because he was able to
Speaker 1: look at film and come in on Monday and tell
Speaker 1: and we Mike, they don't know. He's sitting in front
Speaker 1: of each other offensively and defensive, and he coach Landry
Speaker 1: would call you out from the whole team in front
Speaker 1: of the whole team. You remember that, Mike, Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: you know. It used to be funny. Man. Like Belichick
Speaker 1: does with his team, he would call you had to
Speaker 1: be responsible for your teammates. And they're gonna call that
Speaker 1: right here, Randy. The Sporters took it because it was
Speaker 1: so weird. I listened to the defense. It was so weird.
Speaker 1: I'm like, why wouldn't he take a step inside when
Speaker 1: the play going outside? But he had to take that
Speaker 1: step inside because the linebacker was going outside on the
Speaker 1: initial read. Now you had to take your steps first,
Speaker 1: you know what. I ain't think, man, this don't make
Speaker 1: no sense. I see the ball going outside. Hey, Michael,
Speaker 1: do you have a a podcast friendly Nate Newton story
Speaker 1: that you can share with us? There we go, Nah, Gus,
Speaker 1: I can't imagine that all these old veterans on the
Speaker 1: team and a young Nate Newton what he think about?
Speaker 1: I was quiet my first year and a half two years.
Speaker 1: I was quiet. Basically, that's true, Michael. I couldn't learn nothing,
Speaker 1: that is true. But I I don't I don't know
Speaker 1: if this is a good one or not. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: Uh the season that Nate came in, and you know,
Speaker 1: we had uh run for these and all that bench
Speaker 1: press and and uh so you know, to be competitive
Speaker 1: and and par uh there was offensive lineman versus offensive lineman,
Speaker 1: and Nate ended up being the fastest um offensive lineman
Speaker 1: on on our team, and and and and you know,
Speaker 1: and a lot of guys and kind of the wond
Speaker 1: like I ain't got through right, but but we was
Speaker 1: like they ain't gonna give him a chance to start
Speaker 1: or anything. And uh and that was kind of like
Speaker 1: the the joke you know that that that season. But
Speaker 1: we were impressed with me just because athletically, you know,
Speaker 1: I offensive line was around two seventy two sixty yeah,
Speaker 1: two sixty three hundred, the fastest fastest guy, fastest offensive
Speaker 1: lineman on the team, and athletic, I mean, just had
Speaker 1: it all. We saw Mike. Excuse me, so, Mike, but
Speaker 1: see that what I was saying. It took a couple
Speaker 1: of years for you to learn this system and That's
Speaker 1: why I said athletic didn't have nothing to do it
Speaker 1: with it when you first came into coach Landry. Since
Speaker 1: that's why when I saw Downs, I saw Walls, I
Speaker 1: saw Dennis. All these guys were smart, smart players. You know,
Speaker 1: they knew the system. They knew how to uh fornago
Speaker 1: within the system because they didn't always play exactly how
Speaker 1: coach Nanager wanted it, but they had to be smart
Speaker 1: to say, Okay, well this is what I saw, and
Speaker 1: this is what I told a guy, you know, and
Speaker 1: the offense was basically the same. Guys will sit up
Speaker 1: like they're gonna cut him. He don't know the system,
Speaker 1: they're gonna cut him. You know. Well, I'm glad you
Speaker 1: verified because Nate's been telling us from zero to forty
Speaker 1: yards he can beat anybody from zero to ten yards. Bad.
Speaker 1: I extended about forty forty yards like I could be
Speaker 1: sucked up. So, Mike, do you do you do you
Speaker 1: keep in touch with the guys of your when you
Speaker 1: came in like Dennis, and I know you talked to everything,
Speaker 1: but do you keep up with you guys? Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's kind of difficult to keep in touch. But
Speaker 1: like I we were talking about earlier about golf. That's
Speaker 1: where I see, you know, most of the guys that
Speaker 1: I played with, and you know Dave Donley, you know,
Speaker 1: he he can play golf every day if they let him.
Speaker 1: And so, uh, you know, I get to see him
Speaker 1: and of course every son and uh you know ta yeah,
Speaker 1: I see two tall uh a lot um And I
Speaker 1: can't think of you getting old. Yeah you say that
Speaker 1: as a joke, but yeah, hey, Michael, how is in
Speaker 1: your eyes? How is the game changed from when you
Speaker 1: first came into the league to what it is now?
Speaker 1: You know, I think it's it's more because of cool more,
Speaker 1: you know, because all the rules and regulations that have changed.
Speaker 1: And like um, and I can't remember what they called it,
Speaker 1: but when you make a tackle from on the guy
Speaker 1: from behind and you pulled horse collar pars collar, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we we did that every week, you know, so we
Speaker 1: things like that, uh, you know, And and I'm kind
Speaker 1: of glad they changed it because you can't hurt somebody,
Speaker 1: you know, tackling that way. But it's just more physical.
Speaker 1: And I and when I looked back in the seventies,
Speaker 1: you know, with Roger start Back and mail Renflow and
Speaker 1: those guys. Uh, it was the same thing. It was.
Speaker 1: It was more physical, uh than it is now. So
Speaker 1: that's that's that's it is. Uh. Do you there were
Speaker 1: so many interceptions within your era and you had more
Speaker 1: than than than most any one of your era as
Speaker 1: a group. Do you think there are so few now
Speaker 1: because the NFL is so risk averse on offense or
Speaker 1: are people just not talented in that regard the cornerbacks? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would. I would say it's a little bit of both.
Speaker 1: Um and not that we were that athletes per se,
Speaker 1: but um, we when we thought about we we wanted
Speaker 1: to accept it. We didn't we didn't want to knock
Speaker 1: it down or or whatever, and so you know, my
Speaker 1: mindset was was just different. You know. Uh. We would
Speaker 1: talk before the game about trying to make the interceptions
Speaker 1: and I don't you know, I don't know if they
Speaker 1: do that now because I haven't been around the guys,
Speaker 1: but I mean that was on our mind and so
Speaker 1: I think along with having a good defensive line, but
Speaker 1: our mindset as well created an atmosphere for you worth
Speaker 1: getting more interceptions than anything else. You know, Like we
Speaker 1: talked about earlier, with everything in one year, everything getting
Speaker 1: the leveling and then it's getting nine and I get seven.
Speaker 1: You don't you don't see that no more. Now there's
Speaker 1: a generation of cowboy fans that can't even imagine that
Speaker 1: kind of productivity coming from the cornerbacks. M Yeah, and
Speaker 1: so I I think a lot of it has to
Speaker 1: do with, you know, the way you think. You know,
Speaker 1: if you if you if you just trying to survive, yeah,
Speaker 1: and make a tackle or knock it down, then that's
Speaker 1: probably what you're gonna do. Uh. But you know, we
Speaker 1: and and and I think everything and I kind of
Speaker 1: started up and off. Our first game in eighty one
Speaker 1: was against the red Skins and and in DC, and
Speaker 1: uh I made the first interception. I made an interception
Speaker 1: and uh um, I think within two minutes, you know
Speaker 1: that they were on the field. Uh And and Everson
Speaker 1: wasn't starting at that time, but Everson made two interceptions.
Speaker 1: You know, he was he was a nickel owner and
Speaker 1: he had two interceptions. So we and we won the game,
Speaker 1: of course, but um, just the first game of the year.
Speaker 1: We got a couple of rookies, well actually we had
Speaker 1: Lyon Feller's was a rookie as well. And and we
Speaker 1: I think we ended up with three interceptions. Maybe it
Speaker 1: was four, but that kind of set us the pace too,
Speaker 1: you know what was gonna go on because that's you know,
Speaker 1: we felt good. Yeah, so that was that was fun,
Speaker 1: I mean, and it actually started that first game of
Speaker 1: the year and it went on, you know, for the
Speaker 1: whole um season for your career too. Well, Michael, we
Speaker 1: appreciate you hanging out with us for a few minutes.
Speaker 1: This was really cool to have you on. And uh,
Speaker 1: we'll hopefully talk to you soon. Kurse got your numbers,
Speaker 1: so maybe we can get you on in the future things. Mike.
Speaker 1: Good to hear your voice. I was glad. I would
Speaker 1: be glad to do that. And they always good to
Speaker 1: hear from you, man. So let's let's try to hook
Speaker 1: up something, all right. Maybe we can get you in
Speaker 1: here in the studio so you can actually hang out
Speaker 1: with Nate a little bit. Yeah, I'll do that. It's
Speaker 1: one's going to go to Mexico. Man. Well, I thank you, Mike,
Speaker 1: all right, all right, take care. Let's take a quick break.
Speaker 1: And we got about seven or eight minutes left and
Speaker 1: I want to get you know what, don't just go
Speaker 1: ahead and finish the show. Okay, I want to get
Speaker 1: back into what Nate was saying while ago, because I
Speaker 1: agree with Nate. What's that the Tom Brady argument? Everybody's
Speaker 1: sick and tired of Tom Brady winning. And I'm sitting
Speaker 1: you know what, do something about it. We were witnessing
Speaker 1: greatness like I actually used to. I used to be
Speaker 1: the same way. And then I realized how good this
Speaker 1: cat is. Like at halftime, we were watching the game
Speaker 1: at the sports bar on the property there in Mexico. Halftime,
Speaker 1: I was like, they've been outplayed the whole game. They
Speaker 1: can't move the balls, like the y'all realize they're winning
Speaker 1: the game. The Patriots are gonna win this game. Like
Speaker 1: there was no doubt in my mind. That's how good
Speaker 1: he is. And let me tell you how funny this is.
Speaker 1: And and this is when I really really noticed it.
Speaker 1: The Seattle Seahawks. You could have ran the ball in
Speaker 1: one yard. You want to be super smart, get an interception,
Speaker 1: lose the Super Bowl. You are Atlanta winning the game.
Speaker 1: Oh he had to was run the ball, which you
Speaker 1: want to be. Oh, we're gonna see to who we are.
Speaker 1: We're gonna pass the ball. Guess what The Patriots Okay,
Speaker 1: you want to do it like that, Thank you. We
Speaker 1: just go want to mention and stop your passing game
Speaker 1: or not that you get an end zone. Guess what
Speaker 1: they lose the game? Now you got a run game.
Speaker 1: That's awesome. You've been mixing it up. The young quarterback
Speaker 1: Bortles have been playing lights out. Guess what you're doing.
Speaker 1: First down? You run the ball getting no yards. They're like,
Speaker 1: oh they dummies run the ball again getting no ya.
Speaker 1: Don't you think you should pass on first down? Just
Speaker 1: up one time, try to get seven yards to the
Speaker 1: one and too. So guess what Jacksonville lose. Now, let's
Speaker 1: see what flets the cocks and the balls gonna do.
Speaker 1: Y Nick flos and the balls just flets the cocky.
Speaker 1: They're not giving the Eagles a much chance. It seems like, oh,
Speaker 1: what's the spread? I don't even look. I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: I haven't looked at it all. Look it up. I
Speaker 1: think if the Eagles get on top, they can do
Speaker 1: it differently. I think if the Eagles get on top,
Speaker 1: they can do it differently than than most teams because
Speaker 1: they are defensive minded team, but they also can run
Speaker 1: the ball with you with a gi and the big
Speaker 1: guy that they got from New England. I can't think
Speaker 1: of his name, but Lunt So I think they can
Speaker 1: run the ball equals well. And then Clement's got number thirty.
Speaker 1: Heal a nice guy. All my man gotta do is
Speaker 1: not panic. Nick Foles, just don't panic like uh my
Speaker 1: boy to fight him's case. Kingdom finally showed up the truth.
Speaker 1: It took him sixteen took away eighteen games, and the
Speaker 1: true case Kingdom finally show And I'll tell you what, man,
Speaker 1: I bet Carson Wentz is just sick because you know
Speaker 1: how hard it is to get to him. He got
Speaker 1: that team to a super Bowl. He knew he hadn't
Speaker 1: played the last what three games, and him to sit
Speaker 1: there and watch and just know like this, this could
Speaker 1: have been my shot. It might have been his only chance.
Speaker 1: So but I with you, Nate, like I just I'm
Speaker 1: just appreciate. I appreciate what you see. I appreciate, you know,
Speaker 1: like even the Golden State Warriors, you know, Kevin and
Speaker 1: Kevin Garnett. He he's so loed. He well where he
Speaker 1: was once setting out for him. So I'll tell you what, man,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna leave the Thunder. You gonna
Speaker 1: play for Detroit, I'm gonna show everybody who I am.
Speaker 1: That's stupid. Why not go to the Warriors. You can
Speaker 1: get what I'm saying. And so my greatness thing is
Speaker 1: simple to this right here. Birthhead, Rex Birthhead, He's like
Speaker 1: He called New England. Hey, man, coach, I know you
Speaker 1: know how to use me. He called Belisha, I know
Speaker 1: you know how to use me. Let me come play
Speaker 1: for y'all. Why would Rex Birkhead League one play? Said, man,
Speaker 1: let me go to Cleveland. Let me show everybody who
Speaker 1: I am. Yea. The people that criticize those people or
Speaker 1: the same people that would do it exactly like they're Oh, man,
Speaker 1: I would never do that. You don't want to win
Speaker 1: a super Bowl? People hope that the day of I'm
Speaker 1: gonna build this team is over that went out? Would
Speaker 1: call free agency made that obsolete. When you give a
Speaker 1: guy a chance to say, I'm gonna make twenty five
Speaker 1: million dollars a year next to a guy that's gonna
Speaker 1: help me win a Super Bowl or NBA Championship or
Speaker 1: Baseball World Series versus nah, I'm gonna take twenty five
Speaker 1: meal and just go over him and be a statistical
Speaker 1: genius and lose the rest of my career. Come on, man,
Speaker 1: it happens though a lot of guys look at the money. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they go for the money. They used the budding. I
Speaker 1: mean that first contract after my rookie one. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get the money and then I'm gonna go play. Gotta
Speaker 1: go even you gotta play. And it depends on how
Speaker 1: much money we're talking about, like if if it's if
Speaker 1: it's brother. Basketball is different. You don't have to even
Speaker 1: have this debate. Football, you have to have a fate
Speaker 1: depending on who's got what up under the cap. You
Speaker 1: don't have to have a debate. In basketball. People can
Speaker 1: know that your contract coming up and they're gonna dump
Speaker 1: for you know, they started playing in a couple of years.
Speaker 1: The Warrior's right. Okay, they saw two years ago that
Speaker 1: Durant was coming up, so they the great Uh Jerry West, Hey,
Speaker 1: look man, we need for you to do like you
Speaker 1: did when you win and got shocked. We need for
Speaker 1: you to do that when you win and got this
Speaker 1: guy Paul Kasaul. He did this ain't something Jerry West
Speaker 1: just started doing. He knows how to go talk to
Speaker 1: a dude and they're like, Hey, we need for you
Speaker 1: to go get Durant. And so they all the madly
Speaker 1: knew the guys they was getting in trading for they
Speaker 1: already making. And even if they knew, if they would
Speaker 1: have failed and not got the rant, the t would
Speaker 1: have still been good enough to be challenging for NBA Championship.
Speaker 1: They just wanted to seal the faith of the rest
Speaker 1: of the league, you know, not me. And I get
Speaker 1: an arguments with guys about this because Lebron is fighting
Speaker 1: a battle by himself. Because I tell people saying, y'all
Speaker 1: keep looking at the NFC of the East Finals. Lebron
Speaker 1: ain't looking at the East. He looking at how can
Speaker 1: I be the Warriors? And so most fans you ought
Speaker 1: to be satisfied. No losers are satisfied. Winners want to win.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys should be looking how to beat the Patriots,
Speaker 1: on how to beat the but it steps. It's always steps.
Speaker 1: That's why Lebron left Cleveland. He knew he couldn't make
Speaker 1: that happen in Cleveland, so he left and went to
Speaker 1: Miami and learned from one of the great guys that
Speaker 1: what's the gym for the I can't think of the
Speaker 1: gym for that. Pat Rollins one of the best that
Speaker 1: building the team and nothing. And he showed his cat
Speaker 1: how to build a team. Then he took off. He
Speaker 1: went back to Cleveland and put him a team in place.
Speaker 1: But he know like, oh man, I can't beat I
Speaker 1: can't beat Durant. I had it, I had it. I
Speaker 1: figured out how to get Lotok Curry, how to how
Speaker 1: to play him, But you can't figure out how to
Speaker 1: play U Kevin Durant. He needed another. That's why he
Speaker 1: wanted Paul George because he needed somebody that could stand up,
Speaker 1: play defense and pressure. I'm on the other end when
Speaker 1: it's time for him to play defense. So when you're
Speaker 1: building a team and you and you in the right league,
Speaker 1: the NBA is the right league. If you're trying to
Speaker 1: build a quick fit, instant team, the NBA is the
Speaker 1: right league. But you still got some preparation. It's four
Speaker 1: and a half Patriots. That's it. It's dropped a little bit.
Speaker 1: It was I think it opened like a five or six,
Speaker 1: and how it's four and a half? Who you got? Patriots?
Speaker 1: Tired of him? Think's gonna win? N I ain't going
Speaker 1: against Tom Brady, ain't going against the people that you
Speaker 1: can get any excuse you want until you take it,
Speaker 1: and even next year, you gotta take it twice. For
Speaker 1: me to be the man, you gotta beat the man twice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you got used the man who you got, Douglas. Like
Speaker 1: the brothers said in the street, you could be bad.
Speaker 1: You can talk that over the police, y'all. You want
Speaker 1: to the pool, ye over? That's right? Yeah, that used
Speaker 1: the man who you got. Oh, I'm gonna I'm gonna
Speaker 1: take that wisdom from Nate and apply it to my life.
Speaker 1: But I will go with the Patriots all four unanimous.
Speaker 1: And that's why that's why the Eagles get has got
Speaker 1: a chance, right, that's all. They played the game right now.
Speaker 1: I don't believe me. If if that Monday, if they win,
Speaker 1: if the Eagles win, I'm gonna be excited because the
Speaker 1: NFC East one. So I'm kind of like that. If
Speaker 1: I love my division, I hate my division, but I
Speaker 1: love my division. I hate the Eagles. Can't stand in
Speaker 1: New York Giants, I do something bad to the Red skin.
Speaker 1: But if we win a Super Bowl, I'm down with
Speaker 1: the East. There you go, Well, I missed you guys.
Speaker 1: Glad you're back. Good news is I'll be back next Monday. Good.
Speaker 1: I think you can get us another guest. See what
Speaker 1: we can do. You only seem to be able to
Speaker 1: do that whenever I'm not here. Doesn't have to be
Speaker 1: next week. But he's got to get James Washington. That
Speaker 1: guy's name has come up so much and we know
Speaker 1: he's a good guest. Who's drive by Jane Washes found
Speaker 1: another dude in the Senior Bowl. Well, Kurt, thanks, Well, no,
Speaker 1: Douglas gotta find us somebody. Everybody that got somebody except
Speaker 1: Douglas really really challenge. That's what she said. I pull
Speaker 1: them out the closet, pull them out. Whoa that kind
Speaker 1: of show? Now, Douglas Douglas, thanks for pushing the buttons
Speaker 1: with a guess. Thanks for right, Thanks for bringing it
Speaker 1: as usual. Kent, thanks for pushing the buttons. We will
Speaker 1: It's eleven o'clock on Mondays, even o'clock. Try to be
Speaker 1: on top. I will be here on fooling around with
Speaker 1: some young ladies. That been No. I will do the work.
Speaker 1: So we will see you guys. That's X meet yeah
Speaker 1: next Monday. Hang you with the boys. This has been
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