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Speaker 1: I listened to the Black Guy Who Tips podcast because

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Speaker 1: Rod and Karen are hunts. Hey, welcome to another episode

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Speaker 1: of the Black Autils podcast. I'm your host, Rod Joiners,

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Speaker 1: always by my co host Karen, and we're live on

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Speaker 1: a Sunday night, doing it late night. We sat around

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Speaker 1: all day, watched NFL.

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Speaker 2: Games, NBA games.

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Speaker 1: Yep, Hornets played at one, so we just watched the games.

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Speaker 1: None of our teams are in except for you know,

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Speaker 1: obviously the Hornet is lost. But yeah, it was a

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Speaker 1: good time, good relacs to day. And I was like,

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Speaker 1: you know, what stuff happened. I would like to talk

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Speaker 1: about it. I'd like to talk about it with somebody.

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Speaker 1: And I said, would you like to talk about it

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Speaker 1: as well? And Karen said yes, yes, So let me

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Speaker 1: throw my Cheetah hair rap.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Cheetah hair rap.

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Speaker 3: Get my audio.

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Speaker 2: Mama made this for me. I absolutely love it.

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Speaker 3: I know you have a certain age and you are

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Speaker 3: a black women.

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Speaker 1: So the official weapon of the show is a sportball

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Speaker 1: at bullet ball extreme. Let's go ahead and get into

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Speaker 1: the show. Okay, there's a bunch of stuff to talk about,

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Speaker 1: but you guys all know the main thing that we're

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Speaker 1: going to talk about. And uh, it's always got a

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Speaker 1: start with that damn coronavirus news.

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Speaker 2: It ain't going nowhere again, yeap.

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Speaker 5: Coronavia again, Look, did we go again? We got every yin.

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Speaker 5: Really need to keep a mask on hand and follow

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Speaker 5: the plan. Get the vaccine in second shots, whether woman,

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Speaker 5: the man, black guy who tips is doing their part,

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Speaker 5: but the dumbies expand niggas would rather believe a bunch

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Speaker 5: of misinformation. Fuck y'all idiots not getting shots now. We

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Speaker 5: gotta regrets. If we keep going in this direction, we

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Speaker 5: never can rest, never can't get back to the last

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Speaker 5: we be living the best. Damn fool, stopped the lion,

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Speaker 5: stop the intubation crying because it's your fucking motherfucker's dying.

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Speaker 5: Damn fool stopped the lion stopped the benilaated crying because

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Speaker 5: it's your fucking motherfucker's dying.

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Speaker 2: I do not.

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Speaker 1: Understand this shit.

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Speaker 5: I'm not a fan of this. We were like one

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Speaker 5: win from the Pandemic Championship. The fuckers want to leave

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Speaker 5: it to Game seven with Yanni Stelth to Coo Poe blocking.

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Speaker 1: Forward progression in.

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Speaker 5: Chris Middle figures to your plants, man, Tam, looks like

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Speaker 5: it's no June holiday for you and your man some

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Speaker 5: sick of black ethle tying for real. So I'm just

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Speaker 5: writing this spiece to let you know how I feel.

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Speaker 5: Fuck that COVID nineteen is unseen. It's creeping in the

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Speaker 5: air for you to breathe. Yeah, huh so, fuck that

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Speaker 5: COVID nighte seen.

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Speaker 2: It is unseen.

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Speaker 5: It's creeping in for you to breathe yet.

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Speaker 1: Coronavirus, coronavirus. That's right, coronavirus news. Let's get into it.

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Speaker 1: It's still happening. Actor vahk Magan Manga Sarian share anti

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Speaker 1: VASS conspiracy theories before dying of COVID complications. Oh no, yeah,

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Speaker 1: m hm.

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Speaker 2: COVID like rain. I told yo, it's like bitter juice.

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Speaker 2: You got you. You said too many times it's gonna

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Speaker 2: show up.

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Speaker 1: And he was on Marbles Agency Shield.

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Speaker 3: He was an actor.

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Speaker 1: He was now you said he.

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Speaker 2: Was because it was my show.

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Speaker 3: He was partying on him a second ago.

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Speaker 2: All I'm saying was you said COVID and COVID showed up.

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Speaker 2: That's your fault.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, it's just just don't change. It's because

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Speaker 3: He was seventy eight.

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Speaker 1: Which I mean that's in thee. His manager said he

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Speaker 1: was vaccinated. But he died in Burbank, California. He was

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Speaker 1: best known for starring as Cassim's Zach Hoole in the

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Speaker 1: Marvel Cinematic Universe, but also he had roles in Kirby Enthusiasm,

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Speaker 1: n CIS Los Angeles well as others. I don't really

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Speaker 1: Excuse me, but yeah, apparently he was sharing like memes

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Speaker 1: From he said LESCo branding cartoons to nineteen eighty four

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Speaker 1: author George Orwell quotes, Uh, he made his thoughts clear

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Speaker 1: on his thousands of Facebook friends.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, yeah.

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Speaker 3: He shared this meme is not about a virus.

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Speaker 1: It's about control with a puppet string attached to a

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Speaker 1: mask on a person's face, like we're being controlled by

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Speaker 1: puppets or something like by the government. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: A boy, somebody, here's what you can do with my dose, Joe,

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Speaker 1: let's go Brandon, Joe Biden bending over to pick something

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Speaker 1: up and someone photoshot the needle going into his butt.

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Speaker 1: Not very clever things. This is not a choice. This

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Speaker 1: is coercion. And it's like, in order to get across

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Speaker 2: I mean, but you've a vaccinated though.

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Speaker 1: A lot of you know, a lot of these people

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Speaker 1: have that mentality. It's a weird kind of thing I

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Speaker 1: don't relate to, which is this, Yeah, I'll get vaccinated,

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Speaker 1: but I'm gonna stand for the people who won't get vaccinated.

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Speaker 1: They're the real victims in all this.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and I think a lot of times it boils

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Speaker 2: down to a lot of people only, particularly adults, only

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Speaker 2: got vaccinated because their jobs, and some it was a requirement,

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Speaker 1: Very weird. Speaking of which, let's not leave the Marvel universe.

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Speaker 1: Marvel actress of Angeline Lily attended the DC anti VAXX protest.

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Speaker 1: You know, the woman Kwame Brown spoke at she.

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Speaker 2: Don't like money. They'll get rid of her ass that

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Speaker 2: they can put somebody else to be the waalp and

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Speaker 2: we can keep this train to pushing because she came

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Speaker 2: out before and they was like, hey, bitch, check the

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Speaker 2: over there from the Mandalorian they had basically, which I

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Speaker 2: me ain't her for you? Since so you know, it's

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Speaker 2: one of them things where you just just don't like

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Speaker 2: money and my and the mouses ain't gonna take for

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Speaker 2: so much of you nibbling that it's cheese and it's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're talking about Jennat Carano from The Mandalorian and

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Speaker 1: I think she had a sign that said vax Democrat

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Speaker 1: Just don't understand what the message is in these moments,

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Speaker 1: What is our hospital for? You know, why is it?

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Speaker 1: It only affects me, and then they go somewhere and go,

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Speaker 3: For a reason.

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Speaker 1: Come on, Uh. Two thirds of people with omicron say

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Speaker 1: not because it's a variant. Sarah Palin went to a

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Speaker 2: Nope, defeat the purpose.

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Speaker 1: Like so whenever the waiter has to walk in there,

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Speaker 2: Come on.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, that's uh. And honestly, she don't give a

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Speaker 2: What are you gonna do. You're gonna pull them out,

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Speaker 1: Ut Spot, the four legged machine made by Boss the Dynamics,

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Speaker 2: They're homeless. So the problem is to fix the homeless problem, right.

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Speaker 1: This is what the dog looks like. It doesn't like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and for me, I don't like the robot dolls

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Speaker 2: you know, somebody's protesting and y'all sending them dogs out

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Speaker 1: I'm good, What the fuck is happening on this show?

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Speaker 1: What is happening?

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Speaker 2: I could see?

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Speaker 1: I like to do a show based in facts. Karen,

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Speaker 2: You are saying that the officers are using these robot

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Speaker 2: But my thing is, Okay, you have these dogs, what's

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Speaker 1: No, So you good because that's definitely not what these

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Speaker 1: So these fucking dogs can't. Have you seen these dogs.

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Speaker 1: They're not good. They barely can walk. These are not

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah.

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Speaker 2: This is one point though, by the time we get

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Speaker 3: So here's the thing they spent this money.

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Speaker 1: I think this is probably the nicest use the police

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Speaker 1: It's mostly like they use you know, bomb shit stuff

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Speaker 1: not even us in it for that. They're using this

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Speaker 2: Sorry, y'all, I'm jumping off a cliffoot, you know. That's

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Speaker 1: Of all the things. I know, it's not gonna be

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Speaker 1: ass dogs.

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking about the upgrades.

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Speaker 3: We're not there yet anyway.

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Speaker 1: It's I mean, I guess you can debate whether it's inhumanized.

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Speaker 3: If it makes people feel dehumanized, I.

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Speaker 1: Guess that's the thing. But as a black person, do

443
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Speaker 1: you know what made me feel the humanized? Fucking cops?

444
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Speaker 1: I don't know. For a cop came up to give

445
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Speaker 1: me a coronavirus test, I probably feel the humanized. It's

446
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Speaker 1: not good.

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Speaker 3: There's no good choices left. We're in the pandemic. I

448
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Speaker 3: don't know.

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Speaker 1: I agree.

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Speaker 2: I agree.

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Speaker 3: Uh Anti Vaction.

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Speaker 1: Got kicked off the Kenney transplant list said he'd rather

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Speaker 1: die than get the vaccine.

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Speaker 3: All right, good luck.

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Speaker 2: We'll be reading about him dying well.

456
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Speaker 1: Watching the trooper who defied state vaccine man date total

457
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Speaker 1: up and kisses ass DIDs COVID nineteen nounce about right,

458
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Speaker 1: So that's what they do. Don't know why, just that's

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Speaker 1: his stay. That was a shit. In Ottawa homeless shelter,

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Speaker 1: speaking of dehumanized homeless people, the staff got harassed by

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Speaker 1: a convoy of protesters who were demanding food. Now you going,

462
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Speaker 1: why were they demanding food? Were they homeless or something? No,

463
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Speaker 1: they weren't homeless or something. They were anti vaxxers and

464
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Speaker 1: Canada has vaccine man dates on restaurants, so they made

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Speaker 1: some type of remark about, hey, they won't even let

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Speaker 1: us eat. They treating us worse than homeless people. And

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Speaker 1: then guess what they no matter of twenty four hours,

468
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Speaker 1: there has been vandalism to building, statues and memorials in

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Speaker 1: the nation's capital and at one downtown shelter.

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Speaker 6: As CTV's Jackie Perez reports, many in the community are

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Speaker 6: speaking out against these actions and finding ways to offer support.

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Speaker 6: It started as a protest for vaccine mandates and COVID

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Speaker 6: nineteen restrictions, but in the last twenty four hours, the

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Speaker 6: so called freedom Convoy has disrupted many areas in the

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Speaker 6: Damptown Core, including this homeless shelter, taking to our soup kitchen,

476
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Speaker 6: demanding meals, harassing staff and volunteers, and we had a

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Speaker 6: person who's using our services who was assaulted in responsible

478
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Speaker 6: of residents and beyond banded together offering a helping hand

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Speaker 6: and donating to the shelter. At one point Sunday, traffic

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Speaker 6: to the site was so high it crashed.

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Speaker 2: The events are un fortunate.

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Speaker 6: Often though, when difficult things happen, good things come of them,

483
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Speaker 6: and it's all just the shepherds of good Hope receiving

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Speaker 6: that community support.

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Speaker 2: So we have started to see several thousand dollars come

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Speaker 2: in since this whole episode began. Wow.

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Speaker 6: This whole episode of the Royal Canadian Legion is referring

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Speaker 6: to footage from this weekend showing a person dancing on

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Speaker 6: the tomb of the unknown soldier and vehicles person the

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Speaker 6: must War Memorial.

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Speaker 2: We must show respect at all times to the individuals

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Speaker 2: who died.

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Speaker 4: For our country and I was deeply, deeply disturbed when

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Speaker 4: I saw those images.

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Speaker 6: This weekend, disturbing images of the Terry Fox Statue by

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Speaker 6: Parliament Health surface anti.

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Speaker 7: Mass signs and upside down Canadian flags at the Terry

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Speaker 7: Fox Statue. This kind of behavior sets back any positive

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Speaker 7: movements or support that this rally might have.

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Speaker 6: Since then, many social media users say they made a

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Speaker 6: donation to the Terry Fox Foundation.

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Speaker 4: It was a very difficult day for everybody.

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Speaker 6: The Shepherds of Good Hope says the donations have more

504
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Speaker 6: than covered the meals intended for the most vulnerable. While

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Speaker 6: these protests and made the past few days challenging to

506
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Speaker 6: do their job, they say they're touched by the messages

507
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Speaker 6: of support that's been given to their staff, and this

508
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Speaker 6: is another example in the community has been outspanning.

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Speaker 2: We're very, very grateful for that.

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Speaker 6: Jackie Perez CTV News.

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Speaker 2: Wow, yep, like you said, you try and people don't

512
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Speaker 2: believe you. This is not just an American thing. You know,

513
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Speaker 2: Canada is above us. You know how people you know,

514
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,159
Speaker 2: joke about Canada and shit like that. But they have

515
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Speaker 2: their people that are anti vacs up there too. And

516
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Speaker 2: the thing that's really really fucked up is like you

517
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Speaker 2: walk into a homeless shelter. These people are trying to

518
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Speaker 2: help the least among you, and you attack the staff

519
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Speaker 2: and demand food. You don't need this food. In other words,

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Speaker 2: why are you here, up right?

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Speaker 1: And it's all because they've made they have to be victims.

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Speaker 1: They've made themselves like we're the real victims here, guys.

523
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Speaker 1: This is happening to us and nobody else. And this

524
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Speaker 1: is where you end up with that mentality. Man, it's

525
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Speaker 1: very scary of the lifts that these people will go

526
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Speaker 1: to to make themselves like they literally put like assaulted

527
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Speaker 1: a homeless person to be like m m we the

528
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Speaker 1: real victims ain't go eat a red lobster without getting vaccinated.

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Speaker 2: I know they red lobster. Get out of here, don't

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Speaker 2: nobody what's wrong.

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Speaker 1: With you and shout out to Canadians. Man. They ended

532
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Speaker 1: up flooding the site and giving them all this money

533
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 1: and stuff because they are nicer people than us.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, just sad, right because the people's like, we're

535
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 2: just trying to do our job. Well, a good thing

536
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,159
Speaker 2: for them because then they now they have more than

537
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Speaker 2: enough to be able to do their jobs and.

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Speaker 1: They need to hire some security.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm gonna say. Some of that money is

540
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 2: probably going to have to go to security and cameras

541
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Speaker 2: and shit to record these foods when they walk up

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Speaker 2: in there again.

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Speaker 1: And once again, most infuriating thing. The unvaccinated people like this.

544
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Speaker 1: They want everything. They're not just talking about bodily and

545
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 1: tying to me and chilling. They're talking about I want

546
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 1: it all. Serve me, wait on me, service me. You

547
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:51,159
Speaker 1: owe me.

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Speaker 3: It's all about me.

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Speaker 1: I'm not doing anything to help make societies safer or

550
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,159
Speaker 1: even make myself safer, but you fucking owe me, and

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00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 1: you better give me what I want or I'm gonna

552
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 1: go assault things, break things. There's an anger to this,

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Speaker 1: you know, in America and probably Canada too, and a

554
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 1: bunch of other places. It's definitely attached to the entitlement

555
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 1: within the society, and that entitlement often comes through with whiteness.

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Speaker 1: So you know, it's not you know, even in this clip,

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Speaker 1: it's no coincidence all these motherfuckers is white. Like I'm

558
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Speaker 1: not saying there's never a black or brown person involved,

559
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:30,439
Speaker 1: but it's it's definitely tied to whiteness here for sure.

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't I haven't really seen a lot

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Speaker 1: about these anti VAXX protests in Africa and stuff. I've

562
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Speaker 1: been hearing a lot of good news out of Africa

563
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 1: saying they kind of may have cracked the curve of

564
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Speaker 1: the pandemic, but we'll see. But I haven't really heard

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Speaker 1: about like in Hawaii even and these and like these,

566
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 1: these places where there's brown it's a brown culture, brown

567
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 1: people that, and it's a tourist place. White people bring

568
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 1: the shit in. Like you don't really see the resistance

569
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 1: level in that way from black and brown people in

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Speaker 1: the places we live, in the places we cover. But

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Speaker 1: I can't speak for every place, but there's something about

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Speaker 1: whiteness that is saying I am to be waited on,

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Speaker 1: and I am to be told what to do. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I am. I tell you what to do, right, I

575
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 1: tell you, including when I go to the hospital, I

576
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 1: tell the doctor what to give me and what to do.

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00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 1: They don't, you know, they don't tell me. I'm a doctor.

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Speaker 1: And here's the best thing for you, know, I say

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Speaker 1: to you.

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Speaker 2: Right, fuck your education, in your years of school and

581
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 2: that you invested in probably still patting fucking suit on that.

582
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 2: Fuck all that shit. They don't matter how much you

583
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 2: actually know how the human body works. And you could

584
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 2: probably name every bone to mine and my body and

585
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 2: know shit about me that I wouldn't even know myself.

586
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna tell.

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Speaker 1: You what to do. Forty year old comedian who died

588
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Speaker 1: from COVID nineteen texted brother he wished he got vaccinated.

589
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 2: We've heard that tune too.

590
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Speaker 1: Comedian Christian Cabrera has died of COVID nineteen to age

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Speaker 1: of forty. His brother Gino tald KTLA that the commut

592
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 1: you need and texted him two days before it's death

593
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 1: and admitted he regretted not getting vaccinated. I can't breathe again,

594
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 1: He texted his brother Gino read it that read the text.

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Speaker 1: I really regret not getting my vaccine. If I can

596
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Speaker 1: do it all over again, I would do it in

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Speaker 1: a heartbeat to save my life. I'm fighting for my

598
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 1: life here and I wish I had goten vaccinated. His

599
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 1: family announced the news on Wednesday in a post on Instagram.

600
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Speaker 1: We're very sad to announce that I beloved brother Christian

601
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Speaker 1: Cabrera lost his battle with COVID pneumonia and passed away

602
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Speaker 1: Friday evening after tested positive for COVID in late December.

603
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Speaker 1: He updated fans on his conditions on Instagram and being

604
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Speaker 1: here almost a wee can answer you now, not breathing

605
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 1: on my own with COVID pneumonia infection. In both loans,

606
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Speaker 1: he wrote, this has to be the worst pain I've

607
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Speaker 1: ever had in my life. Thanks for all the love

608
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 1: and prayers everyone. I can hear all your prayers in

609
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 1: my sleep. Thank you, and hope to see y'all soon.

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Speaker 1: And it's crazy because you're a comedian, So if you

611
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Speaker 1: were anti VAXs and you was just out here doing shows,

612
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 1: you're literally it's just a matter of time. M h.

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00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 1: You know, even comedians that have gotten vaccinated and stuff

614
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: have ended up getting COVID a lot of times because

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00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: it's just a matter of it's a matter of time.

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00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 1: Because you're gonna let your guard down. You're kind of

617
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: hoping that you trust some people to do the right thing.

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00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 1: It's a lot of kookie, weird people in the comedy industry,

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00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: so you never really know if they're really gonna do

620
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: the right thing. And you know, and then also just

621
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 1: you know, you're now whatever the risk factor is yours

622
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 1: has multiplied. Every time you're around an audience and they're

623
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Speaker 1: laughing or they don't have masks, or they're not vaccinated

624
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Speaker 1: or or the varying is out. Like in the Instagram

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Speaker 1: postm last year, you shared a mean when the doctor

626
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: say who's ready to take COVID nineteen vaccine? Alongside the

627
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: picture Robert Downey, Julian and Jimmy Fallon ducking down in

628
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Speaker 1: their seats, implying that they're hiding from said doctors. His

629
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Speaker 1: family started to go fund me for the late median's

630
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: widow and their son. That's always sad, ain't no joke, uh,

631
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Speaker 1: and then his friend and fellow comedian Michael Blackson said,

632
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: I appreciate everyone's support with your donations. I want to

633
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 1: make sure his family is stress free. And because he

634
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 1: is my best friend, I owe it to him the

635
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: celebration of his life, so I'll be taking care of that.

636
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 1: I told the hospital to send me the bill so

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00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 1: I could wipe my ass with it. I'm hurt and

638
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: I feel like they failed. If they feel they did

639
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: their best, their best was not good enough for me.

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00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: If doctors and nurses can be with them in the hospital,

641
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 1: they where they need to find a way for their

642
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 1: loved ones to be by their side.

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Speaker 2: No bitch, so they can't catch COVID too. The fuck

644
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 2: is this? Yeah? Yeah, like I don't are you you

645
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 2: probably not vaccinated neither, goovie gonna touch your lungs too,

646
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 2: It don't make sense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if it's that thing where I mean,

648
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Speaker 1: it's his friend. He's grieving obviously, so, but I don't,

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Speaker 1: like I said, it's that that that attitude serve me. Hospital,

650
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 1: I didn't do anything as I was supposed to do. Now,

651
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 1: come fix this, all right?

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00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 2: How is the hospital failing when the whole hospital our

653
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 2: job is to keep you alive and we've been telling

654
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Speaker 2: you from the beginning how to prevent your ass from

655
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 2: coming in your ass here in the first place, to

656
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 2: get the goddamn shot.

657
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, and honestly, like, there isn't that overworked understaff, and

658
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 1: there isn't a way for you to visit your family

659
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 1: while they're in there, because it's so fucking dangerous in there.

660
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: Like even the doctors and nurses gotta be ppped up,

661
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 1: ppeed up to do this job now.

662
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 2: Because before you could. Now, when you go into the hospital,

663
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 2: you're literally in there by yourself.

664
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: Why aren't you acknowledging what he said he should have

665
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 1: gotten vaccinated, acknowledged what he told you, Like he told

666
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 1: his family, his brother, like I should have got vaccinated.

667
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 1: I fucked up, Like he didn't go the doctors is

668
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 1: fucking up. No, it was me.

669
00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 3: I had a chance not to be here.

670
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 1: I could go back. And that's the thing. No one

671
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: wants to acknowledge. Everybody's vaccine hesitant, everybody's scared. They never

672
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 1: acknowledged these people who are openly saying I've had the

673
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: same mentality you have. I went through this, I'm dying

674
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: and I'm scared as fucking I realized I fucked up.

675
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 1: Nobody's gonna have that conversation, m.

676
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 2: And we've read several stories of people saying this. Some

677
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 2: survived and some haven't. And some of the people that

678
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 2: have survived are like some of the loudest voices now,

679
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 2: like they go harder than the people that's vaccinated. They're like, no, bitch,

680
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 2: get vaccinated.

681
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 1: T Mobile will fire unvaccinated corporate employees. According to an

682
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: internal memo, let's go Yeah. They was running up in

683
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 1: T Mobile about the five G and tearing down signs

684
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 1: and shit, and Jamb said, oh, okay, they got scared.

685
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 2: What you ain't gonna do is work here. We got

686
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 2: shit to do, and we won't have time for y'all

687
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:57,800
Speaker 2: disrupting our services.

688
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 1: Nike is a now similar plans in recent weeks.

689
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,879
Speaker 2: It's me and you had talked about this earlier. Joe

690
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 2: Biden tried to be the bad guy, y'all, but the

691
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 2: Supreme Court said no, so he was like cool. So

692
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 2: now it's up to the companies, And now the company's

693
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 2: gonna be like, bitch, I'm not scared, get vaccinated or

694
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 2: you don't have no goddamn job.

695
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 1: Two Long Island nurses accused of fortune one point five

696
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 1: million dollars in fake vaccine cards. Very lucative business that

697
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 1: seemed like they sold it all like Long Gallen. This

698
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:33,439
Speaker 1: is where they were selling it, so you know, sound

699
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 1: like a lot of like anti vax white people. So yeah,

700
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 1: they I don't know how much time they're facing and

701
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: all this stuff, but they made one point five million,

702
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 1: which is a lot of money. They were charging to

703
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 1: twenty four adults at eighty five dollars for children. I

704
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 1: don't know if they went into the business knowing it

705
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: was one point five men or they just did couldn't

706
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: stop themselves once it glew up.

707
00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, And the thing is, yes, there

708
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 2: needs to be a punishment for this, Yeah, because it

709
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 2: doesn't make sense. The shot is fucking free, I do,

710
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 2: I cannot comprehend.

711
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 1: But also it's got to be some type of violation

712
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 1: morally of their oath. I mean, you know, this is

713
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,879
Speaker 1: this is crazy what you're doing. You know, I don't

714
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 1: see this any different than uh and other types of

715
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 1: you know, enabling people with it by using your job

716
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 1: to uh exploit, exploiting your job. You're not supposed to

717
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 1: do this, Like you don't have to be pro vaccine

718
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 1: any of this ship if you're a nurse, but your

719
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: job is definitely this is definitely illegal what you.

720
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,479
Speaker 2: Did, and that much money you don't get that federal time.

721
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 1: Yeah. So Kid Rock says he's gonna cancel toward dates

722
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: if venues require a mask or COVID vaccinations. I don't

723
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 1: want to deal with that ship either.

724
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 7: He said.

725
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 2: Okay, mm hmm, about to cry.

726
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, you said, there's been a lot of talk about

727
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 1: vaccine mandates and venues, people saying I'm not going to

728
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 1: that venue because of the vaccine mandate and this, that

729
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 1: and the other. Trust me, we've done all our research

730
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,879
Speaker 1: on this, and the consistence says that it's all going

731
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 1: to be done. If there are any of these venues.

732
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: I'm not aware of any, but if there are any,

733
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 1: they're going to be gone by the time we get

734
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:19,919
Speaker 1: to your city.

735
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 3: If they're not, trust me, we don't have to worry.

736
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 1: You'll be getting your money back because I won't be

737
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 1: showing up either, he said in the clip posted his

738
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: Facebook account.

739
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 2: I'm goad fuck around and find out with Covid.

740
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 1: It's actually kind of unfortunate. We actually scratched Buffalo, New

741
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: York off the list because of that, and Toronto, Canada

742
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 1: and several other cities we were looking at.

743
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 3: I don't want to deal with that shit either.

744
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 2: Now you're not really gonna have to deal with it,

745
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 2: just the fans. It's actually safer for everybody, but you

746
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,399
Speaker 2: want them in there. Briven Covid in your face.

747
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: And he posted this new song We the People, which

748
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,320
Speaker 1: bash is President Biden and Anthony Fauci.

749
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 2: We sure he wouldn't at that rally.

750
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he was probably that brown and uh low

751
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 1: Fire and that other dude High Reds, whatever their name was.

752
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 1: We were in a wall for freedom. This is a

753
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: wa y'all might want to check out three guys on

754
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 1: if you get a chance. From a week ago, we

755
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 1: were all there and I had some fun with that song.

756
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,720
Speaker 1: Maybe there's two weeks ago now. Last study show merks

757
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: COVID nineteen pill against amicrome variant. It's active against it,

758
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 1: so it works against the amicrome variant, which people were

759
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 1: worried about because some of the mono Colonel Anybody things

760
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 1: don't work according to you know, the Florida Health Department.

761
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: So yeah, maybe maybe people will take a pill. I

762
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: mean it seems like that's more the traditional cold medicine

763
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: type of way flu medicine type of way where you

764
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 1: go get a pill, and I don't know if it's

765
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: like the one thing is, I don't know how you

766
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 1: would get these pills once they're on the market. If

767
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 1: it's gonna be like you can go get super fed,

768
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 1: or if it's gonna be like you need to go

769
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 1: to doctor be diagnosed, doctor prescribes it, then you can

770
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 1: get access to it from a pharmacy. Because if that's

771
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,479
Speaker 1: the case, I still worry about a lot of people

772
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 1: because that process takes can take a few days, and

773
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like it's very like, especially now,

774
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: how many these doctors and nurses are overworked and stuff.

775
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 1: It's probably a lot to be like, hey, I want

776
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: a doctor's appointment. I think I might have COVID. It'll

777
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 1: probably be like, okay, well, if it's not emergency room level,

778
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: you know, how what do we do? You know what

779
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So anyway, it might it might be simpler today.

780
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 1: It might be like take that home test, let us know,

781
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: we'll prescribe it over the phone. You can go pick

782
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:47,879
Speaker 1: it up. It could be simple. I have no idea.

783
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 2: I hope they do. And also, and I said before,

784
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 2: and I look at you to stick with this. You're

785
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 2: not gonna have a higher percentage, but you can have

786
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 2: a percentage of people that will take these pills. We'll

787
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:57,280
Speaker 2: still won't get that sharp.

788
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'm fine with that. Just get if the

789
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 1: pills work, and that's what that's the only thing he'll take.

790
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 1: It's better than what we have now, which is y'all

791
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: just going out being sick.

792
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 2: And I agree. And they, well, like I said, they

793
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 2: working on nasal and all these other versions too, because

794
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,240
Speaker 2: they want as many people to get this as possible.

795
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 1: All right, let's get into the other news from the

796
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 1: pandemic to the pandemic.

797
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 2: Oh shit.

798
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 1: Nick Cannon is allegedly expecting the baby boy with Johnny

799
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: Manziel's ex wife.

800
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 2: Oh shit.

801
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 1: According to tmz uh the party, he had a party

802
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 1: this afternoon in Malibu with pinking blue balloons and decorations.

803
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,320
Speaker 1: The event was filled with friends and families, so he

804
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 1: was he was there, but the photos of the two

805
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 1: seemed to draw attention, mainly because they kept holding and

806
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: hugging while Nick was captured creditling her belly bump, belly bump,

807
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 1: and many images.

808
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 2: Oh he she's not. That's that's Nick. He ain't gonna

809
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 2: miss no photo shooting.

810
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 6: M M.

811
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I don't know.

812
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 2: None of them babies got that gotta be afraid of

813
00:40:59,120 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 2: him not claiming them.

814
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 1: They kep writing articles about how eventually everyone's gonna get

815
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 1: COVID because that's just what's gonna take for the pandemic,

816
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 1: and we just need to get used to living with it.

817
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,800
Speaker 1: And I'm like, what about the pandemic? We need to

818
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: get used to being pregnant by Nick Cannon?

819
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 2: Him and Christian Thompson going Nick for Nick? Ain't it like?

820
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 1: When are we gonna admit that that's happening and that

821
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 1: we all need to stop, you know, trying to avoid

822
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 1: it and just get ready to take our turn. You know,

823
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 1: that's the reason they invented the pregnant man emoji in

824
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: the next iPhone update. Is people think it's about inclusion

825
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 1: and stuff. I'm like, no, it's just we all know it.

826
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: Eventually we will be pregnant by Nick Cannon. Oh no,

827
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 1: and it doesn't Nick Cannon doesn't. It don't matter.

828
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 3: He doesn't see gender necessarily just by racialism.

829
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 1: I don't know. Jennet Jackson forgives justin Timberlake for Super Bowl.

830
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 1: Him and I have moved on. So it's a lifetime

831
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 1: docu series. It was two parts. The whole time when

832
00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: I was watching it, I didn't get a chance to

833
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 1: watch it yet. I may or may not don't know,

834
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 1: but I don't know either. But you know, I could

835
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: see everybody live tweeting, and then I made a joke

836
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: like let me know when they get to the JD

837
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: part because Jermaine Duprix. I still just remember being like

838
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,320
Speaker 1: how and then when you find out he cheated on

839
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 1: her and that's how they broke up. It's like I

840
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 1: just remember that time my life being just questioning everything,

841
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,439
Speaker 1: like I must not have high enough goals. I don't

842
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 1: want enough things. Jamaine dupri Aut cheating on Janet Jackson.

843
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 1: Apparently it's just anything goes out this bitch. I've been

844
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:33,720
Speaker 1: dreaming too small.

845
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 3: Anyway.

846
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 1: She talked about the super Bowl obviously and said, honestly,

847
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 1: this whole thing was blown way out of proportion, and

848
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 1: of course it was an accident that should not have happened.

849
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 1: But everyone is looking for someone to blame and that's

850
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,280
Speaker 1: got to stop. Justin and I are very good friends

851
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 1: and we will always be very good friends. We spoke

852
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:55,919
Speaker 1: just a few days ago. Him and I have moved

853
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 1: on and it's time for everyone else to do the same.

854
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: Which you know, these niggas said, No, I'm not moving on.

855
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 2: They're gonna suck around, do an album, a song, or

856
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 2: some shit together. It's gonna be a bop and y'all

857
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,320
Speaker 2: gonna the mag is gonna collide.

858
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 1: Yes, Yeah, that would be amazing.

859
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 2: I would love I hope they are working on something,

860
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 2: But it's that.

861
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: Thing man grievances currency, and it's a lot of people's

862
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 1: replacement for having a personality. It's a lot of people's

863
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 1: replacement for like it's a quick way to ingratiate yourself

864
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 1: with some money. Oh we hate the same thing, you know.

865
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: And I think Justin Timilate, especially via black Twitter, really

866
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: became that like it gave everybody a place that where

867
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: the Justine because you know, Justin Timlink still had very

868
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 1: popular connections to blackness and music years after that shit happened,

869
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 1: and I think it gave a place for all the

870
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 1: people that hate Justin timber and had that kind of

871
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,879
Speaker 1: like conspiracy to find each other and be like, yeah,

872
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 1: we all agree with this. We always said this, Black

873
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 1: people don't fuck with Justin Timberlake, and it was like

874
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 1: it's always been a kind of a lie, but if

875
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 1: you get on Twitter, it's the truth, because you know,

876
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 1: it's all the loud people are agreeing. I remember back

877
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 1: in the day, you like, I don't even know how

878
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 1: many years ago, but when I first became aware of

879
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 1: and kind of was talking with ray SONI and we

880
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 1: would have her on the show and stuff, and she

881
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 1: would talk about hating Justin Timberlake, and that was not

882
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: like the mainstream opinion. Like everybody it was like, yeah,

883
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 1: I hate this nigga, and people be letting him slide.

884
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 1: So we've gone from I hate this nigga and people

885
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 1: be letting him slide to like everybody hates Justin Timberlake.

886
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 3: We never liked him.

887
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:46,280
Speaker 1: I don't even know how he got popular.

888
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 2: Had nothing to do with us, right, and that's safe,

889
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 2: it's not true.

890
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 1: But you know a lot of people use that Super

891
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 1: Bowl as the as the crux of their argument. And

892
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 1: it always felt to me like that really wasn't even

893
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 1: about Janet and it really low key wasn't even about

894
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 1: Timberlake as far as him his actions, Like I really

895
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 1: think it just came down to a lot of black

896
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 1: girls liked him. He was like the cool white kid that.

897
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,359
Speaker 3: Everyone thought I was cute, and you know what I'm saying,

898
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 3: it was okay to be like, you.

899
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 1: Know, Justin that's the one or whatever, and he was

900
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 1: making like the black music, and it felt like he

901
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: was If we would have found out, you know, he's

902
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 1: dating a black girl, it wouldn't have been like some

903
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 1: huge shock.

904
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 3: A lot of people would have been super happy.

905
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 1: And all that shit. And it felt like that was

906
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: after that was the moment that he went like, oh no, guys,

907
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 1: I'm white. I come on.

908
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 2: He went to the woods, like it was like hay

909
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 2: pull on the Cardigan sweater and Cardogan shorts and was like,

910
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 2: I'm in the woods.

911
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 1: Well it took a while for he got to end

912
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 1: the man in the woods, because that was what a

913
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:01,879
Speaker 1: few years back. But he just had a retree of like, yeah,

914
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: I'm okay, I'm just o kid, Guys, I don't really

915
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: want to do this. And I think I had an

916
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 1: understanding as more information came out over the years, had

917
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 1: an understanding where he was coming from, because he was

918
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: a kid, and he really wasn't ready and probably never

919
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 1: would have been ready to go toe to toe with

920
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:25,800
Speaker 1: less Moon Vaz, who is honestly the real villain, and

921
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 1: got away with a lot less scrutiny from people, and

922
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,800
Speaker 1: even black people more mad at Justin Timberlake than the

923
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 1: dude who literally tried to end Jenny Jackson's career. And

924
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 1: they don't have that same smoke because I think no

925
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 1: one ever loved less Moon Vas but a lot of

926
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 1: black girls grew up and.

927
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 2: They loved Justin Yes, and if somebody bought this up

928
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 2: on wine and I didn't even think about this, they

929
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 2: were say for a lot of people, even people living

930
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 2: through that time, didn't know who that white dude was nobody,

931
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:59,720
Speaker 2: you know, and they were saying in the black community,

932
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 2: Janet was still there. She was on the essence like

933
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 2: she would do the essence. So for a lot of us,

934
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 2: she never fell out of our preview. But in like them,

935
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 2: a lot of the main white medias, all of a sudden,

936
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 2: she wasn't going on the rolling stone, she wasn't getting awards.

937
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 2: But you know, for a lot of niggas that you run,

938
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 2: they don't follow shit like that, yeah, and or they

939
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 2: don't care.

940
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 1: And one of the thing that may that makes me

941
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 1: think about and I don't know how many times we

942
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 1: have to see this before people start absorbing this lesson,

943
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 1: and maybe they never will. Probably actually probably they never will.

944
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 1: But it's something I've as I'm growing up and learning

945
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 1: as I'm getting older. It's someone I pay attention to

946
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 1: a lot, and as a person that's an actual impath,

947
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:46,839
Speaker 1: not the you know, mpath TM or whatever the LLC

948
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 1: these niggas have these days. I noticed when people are

949
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 1: saying this is how I feel, and it's the person

950
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 1: that was impacted by it, and there's a level of

951
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: importance that it gets from me because it does matter.

952
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:04,879
Speaker 3: You see what I'm saying, like it does matter.

953
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 1: You can't completely erase the person because then it's really

954
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 1: about you. And that's kind of like a narcissistic way

955
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 1: of approaching it, Like I don't care that you moved on.

956
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 1: I haven't. Well, you're a stranger and I don't know

957
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 1: you and you don't know my life and I didn't

958
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 1: ask you to be vindictive on my behalf and you

959
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 1: did that for yourself, and you want to admit it.

960
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 1: You keep throwing me in there. You know, It's like

961
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 1: how these quote unquote stands do and if you you

962
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 1: know for men sports fans, you know, they their their

963
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 1: agendas where it's like I'm gonna hate Patrick Mahomes because

964
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:40,399
Speaker 1: I'm a Drew Brees fan.

965
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 3: It's like, I don't think Drew Brees.

966
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 1: Is asking you to do that, like like like that's

967
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 1: just a thing you like to do. And then you're

968
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 1: turning it into like a cause, but it's not really

969
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 1: a cause. It's cause of you, you know what I'm saying,

970
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 1: Like it's you that wants that. And with Janet, you know,

971
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 1: she really wasn't talking shit about Justin Lake, and she

972
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 1: came out and said this, and over the years Ultimately,

973
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 1: one of the reasons on the show, we don't really

974
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 1: talk much about Justin Timberlake and shit on him and

975
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 1: bring up Janet and then talk about Justin. One of

976
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 1: the reason I refuse to do it is because, and

977
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 1: I get that where people think they're doing this out

978
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:22,839
Speaker 1: of a good place, but you're making her story about him.

979
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 1: You are making her the victim of Justin Timberlake and

980
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 1: not Janet Jackson's fucking global superstar. When we talked about

981
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 1: Janet Jackson Corey at fifty having a fucking baby, we

982
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 1: weren't on here talking about Justin Timberlake. And I don't

983
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:40,800
Speaker 1: want to. I don't want to turn her story into that.

984
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 1: If it wouldn't have been for her bringing it up

985
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 1: in this documentary herself and then watching the reaction, I

986
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 1: wouldn't be talking about this nigga in reference to her

987
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,760
Speaker 1: right now. He's not worth that much of her life.

988
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 1: He really didn't have shit to do with her being derailed, Like, Okay,

989
00:49:56,520 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 1: he's a white kid, that wouldn't totally ages were so desperate,

990
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 1: but desparate, but he didn't. He didn't have whatever it

991
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: is you supposed to have to stand up for this

992
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 1: black woman at that time. Niggas don't have that to day.

993
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,280
Speaker 1: That don't make him special, that don't make him different,

994
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,320
Speaker 1: but it definitely doesn't make him the center of her story.

995
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 1: You know, it feels weird to make him the center

996
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 1: of her story. You know, JD Jermaine Dupre dogged her out.

997
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 1: We don't even make him the center her story because

998
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 1: he ain't who the fuck is he for to Jennet,

999
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So it was kind of

1000
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 1: interesting to see that because I knew that moment was

1001
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 1: coming because unlike a lot of these people, Jenna Jackson

1002
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:41,439
Speaker 1: has been the therapy and she has done some work

1003
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 1: and she has like had to process that part of

1004
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 1: her life. These people, you know therapy LLC, therapy, TM,

1005
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 1: Pashtag therapy, but you know, misery is what they traffick in,

1006
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 1: and they like being stuck in the same place and

1007
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 1: never moving out of it. They need the grudge because

1008
00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 1: it without the grudge was the company. So it's always interesting,

1009
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 1: and this has happened multiple times. It's just the latest one.

1010
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 1: I'll probably talk about it every single time I see

1011
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,439
Speaker 1: somebody do this because I love this kind of shit,

1012
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:10,400
Speaker 1: but I love it.

1013
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:13,959
Speaker 2: She's like I moved on, like, and she has that option,

1014
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 2: she has that choice, and.

1015
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 1: You know, like, don't y'all are holding in bitterness for me.

1016
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 1: I don't even have so, Like, if y'all need that

1017
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:26,280
Speaker 1: bitterness to survive, just understand it's yours, it's not mine yours.

1018
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 1: You're not protecting me. I didn't ask you to harass

1019
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 1: this man.

1020
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 2: And you're not mad at just to stimulate. You're mad

1021
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 2: at whatever fuck nigga did something to you back when

1022
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 2: you was a teenager in your twenties. That's what you're

1023
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 2: mad at.

1024
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:39,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's Beyonce and the you know, the woman leaning

1025
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:43,439
Speaker 1: over because jay Z wanted to get order a drink

1026
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:46,320
Speaker 1: and people going, we need to harass this woman for

1027
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 1: Beyonce and Beyonce having to come out, I actually feel

1028
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:52,399
Speaker 1: bad for Janet. I feel bad for Beyonce. I feel

1029
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 1: bad for people who really were minding their own business,

1030
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 1: didn't ask us to do all this projecting and have

1031
00:51:58,640 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 1: to actually come out.

1032
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:00,479
Speaker 3: And say, can you don't stop?

1033
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:03,320
Speaker 1: Because I didn't want that and it is actually affecting

1034
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: people's lives. So can y'all move on? Because I'm I'm

1035
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 1: asking you to move on? And I love the moment

1036
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 1: of honesty and clarity that it was to see people

1037
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:13,800
Speaker 1: say no.

1038
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 2: And that's the truth, because that got nothing to do

1039
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 2: with them.

1040
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 1: That's the real them, right, the real them is. I

1041
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 1: won't move on because it was never about you, Janet.

1042
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 1: I actually don't give a fuck about you. Nope, I

1043
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:29,320
Speaker 1: don't care. I came to this story with my grudges

1044
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 1: and my baggage, and I'm carrying it through and I

1045
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 1: won't put them down even if you say, you know,

1046
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 1: you aren't carrying No, those aren't my bags you're carrying,

1047
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 1: You're carrying your own. Yeah, I'm not putting it down.

1048
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 1: I'm using to these bags.

1049
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm used to these bags and whoever's name only

1050
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 2: you just erase it and put Jennet on it, but

1051
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 2: them that Janet's bags. Baby.

1052
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:48,959
Speaker 1: So I thought that was I thought that was super

1053
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 1: wild that one moment. But you know, I probably go

1054
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 1: back and watch the whole thing at some point, or

1055
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 1: you know, I think it might be on Hulu or

1056
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:59,319
Speaker 1: something like that. I don't know, but yeah, I mean,

1057
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 1: she does with so much shit and still was so iconic,

1058
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 1: and it's just it's just interesting to see how many

1059
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 1: people are stuck you know, thinking that they're doing her

1060
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 1: favor when she's asking you, actually, you're not doing me

1061
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 1: a favor. Can you stop and for people to actually

1062
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 1: openly admit I can't stop myself. I refuse to stop myself.

1063
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 1: I actually don't care about your wishes.

1064
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 2: Yep. One a few times they're being truthful.

1065
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought that was a it was like an

1066
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 3: ugly moment of honesty, but it was.

1067
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:35,879
Speaker 1: It was a rare moment of honesty on social media

1068
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 1: where a bunch of people went, yeah, actually, fuck you

1069
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 1: Janet too.

1070
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 3: I know you thought I was a fan of yours.

1071
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 3: I'm not really.

1072
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:45,880
Speaker 1: I'm more of a fan of me having grudges than

1073
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:49,400
Speaker 1: a fan of than a fan than a fan of

1074
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 1: helping you move on. So you're saying the thing that

1075
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 1: will help you move on is to stop doing this. Nope,

1076
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:58,839
Speaker 1: Like I said, it's while I always talk about I'm

1077
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 1: a little bit wary of the idea of fans and

1078
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 1: the idea of stands, and the idea of support and

1079
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 1: the internet and social media because a lot of it

1080
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 1: isn't really support. And it's like you think it's support

1081
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 1: and it feels similar to support, but then like it's

1082
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 1: more it's like, it's more about the person. It's not

1083
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,240
Speaker 1: really about you, you know, And you have to be careful.

1084
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:24,360
Speaker 1: You know, you don't want to. You can't fall in

1085
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:27,439
Speaker 1: love with your fans and vice, you know, vice versa.

1086
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 1: You know. Parasocial relationships work both ways. You can convince

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00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 1: yourself that you're that you and your fans are family

1088
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:37,479
Speaker 1: in the community and special, and you might really feel

1089
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 1: that way. But every once in a while, something happens

1090
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 1: that just snaps that relationship where you're like, oh, wait, no,

1091
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:47,320
Speaker 1: I'm not mad about this, you know, I'm not like,

1092
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 1: I'm not upset. Why why why are y'all upset this right?

1093
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 1: Let's look, that's my friend. They're like, no, it's not.

1094
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:56,399
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, I'm just entertainment for you, not a person.

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00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:58,799
Speaker 2: No matter how you feel, these are real people. They

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00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 2: have real function and relations with these celebrities, and they

1097
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 2: don't give a fuck about how y'all feel about how

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00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 2: their images portrayed to you online.

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00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 1: So yep, I thought it was interested. Tasha Kay responds

1100
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:13,879
Speaker 1: about after Jerry orders her to pay CARDI B four

1101
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 1: million dollars in that defamation case, and she basically just

1102
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 1: doubled down he was in Yeah.

1103
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 3: She basically was like, it's not over yet, you know.

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00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 1: She said Monday's verdict came as no shock to her

1105
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:33,879
Speaker 1: husband or her legal team after spending more than three

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00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,800
Speaker 1: extremely challenging years fighting the case, but added she wouldn't

1107
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 1: change a single thing about it.

1108
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Speaker 3: I've learned so much.

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00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 1: Every moment was a credibly powerful and insightful She told

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Speaker 1: her nine hundred and ninety five one hundred thousand, so

1111
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 1: almost a million followers on YouTube. We're prepared, and we're prepared.

1112
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:56,319
Speaker 1: We were prepared for this challenge from the beginning. Dad

1113
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 1: sent her a season desist lad letter the mandaged she

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00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 1: remove the video. She responded by posting another video, reaffirming

1115
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:06,320
Speaker 1: that everything in the prior video was accurate. The complaint

1116
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 1: says she continued to tell additional false stories about Carti

1117
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:12,240
Speaker 1: to the vlogger either knew that she that the vlogger

1118
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 1: either knew weren't true or probably weren't true, and it

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00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 1: caused Carti to have anxiety and suicidal thoughts on a

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Speaker 1: daily basis, in addition to feeling like a burden to

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00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 1: her family. Which is interesting because every argument I've seen

1122
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,800
Speaker 1: that it's tried to make Carti into a villain or

1123
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:35,280
Speaker 1: bad guy. Don't mention that, and they dismiss the idea

1124
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 1: that she's They think having money and fame makes you

1125
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 1: not a person anymore, so, you know, they the it's

1126
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 1: kind of why, you know, I've come to not really

1127
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:50,280
Speaker 1: be a fan of the politics of like quote unquote

1128
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 1: representation and all this shit, because a lot of that's

1129
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 1: not really Then you're not a person no more. Now

1130
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 1: you're just the avatar for me.

1131
00:56:59,040 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 2: God.

1132
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you're the mascot. And it can switch in

1133
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:02,800
Speaker 3: a second.

1134
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 1: It just like I've decided that this other person is

1135
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:08,360
Speaker 1: the mascot in this case, and in this case some

1136
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:13,359
Speaker 1: people decide that Cardi b can this must just all

1137
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 1: be bullshit. She's fine because someone's spreading lies about you

1138
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 1: and your family shouldn't have no effect on you. If

1139
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 1: you have money or if you're famous, which obviously doesn't

1140
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 1: make sense, You'll still be a person, you know. Kiv

1141
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 1: I think it's her last name, denied the faming and

1142
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 1: invading calities privacy in the Wednesday response video. She called

1143
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 1: a verdict extremely presidential and said she was persecuted for

1144
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 1: daring to denounce negative aspects of hip hop culture glorified

1145
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:44,440
Speaker 1: by a corporate machine that promotes modern day genocide.

1146
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 2: Girl, what are you talking about?

1147
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 1: What is you talking about?

1148
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 3: We called bluff?

1149
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 1: Who called that bluff against a machine that wanted to

1150
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 1: bully me for not waving for my personal beliefs, A

1151
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 1: machine that has corporate interest to protect prostitution, drug use,

1152
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 1: some promiscuity, and to glorify the violence that reeks have

1153
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 1: it on our society and in our neighborhoods. She said,

1154
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 1: it's sold to our.

1155
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 3: Children as an it factor.

1156
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 1: This machine, this thing secured the extremely presidential video, I

1157
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 1: mean verdict against myself and my company solely off of

1158
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 1: sympathy and payola. Keep in mind also like some people

1159
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 1: defending her were trying to do it on some like

1160
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 1: woke shit, but this woman ain't. This is not some

1161
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 1: woke shit she talking about. But she's very like, this

1162
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 1: is very down on not just hip hop, but like

1163
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 1: the Cardi style of being like a positive sexual role model, prostitution,

1164
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 1: drug use, proscuity. What how do we get all the

1165
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 1: way in left field glorifying violence? Like okay?

1166
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 2: And the thing is is like if this is it,

1167
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 2: hear you want to down so be it. But it's

1168
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 2: gonna be one of them things where card is like,

1169
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 2: I tried to do everything I can, and all these

1170
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 2: people that root you on, they're going to fucking laugh

1171
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 2: at you if you have to file for bankruptcy or

1172
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 2: have to do go fund me or whatever to get

1173
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 2: these funds up to pay these people.

1174
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Speaker 3: I know y'all.

1175
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 1: May y'all maybe think this is over, but no, this

1176
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 1: is just the beginning. I would spend as many years

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00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 1: as I can to protect our right to voice our

1178
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:27,760
Speaker 1: opinions and facts on these images that are sold and

1179
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 1: pushed on them.

1180
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 2: But they're not facts.

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00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 1: We would fight no matter the cost or left, or

1182
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 1: even if it takes years. Many of her supporters applied

1183
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 1: and chadir in the comments section of a video, with

1184
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 1: some donating money via super Chat payments. Be strong, what

1185
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 1: Snatna wrote, Stay up, Tasha said, quad Strong designs for you,

1186
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 1: but most of the other commentators either poke fund or

1187
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 1: called on her to take responsibilities. You lied, wrote Project Paula.

1188
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 1: I love these names. Another poster who identify herself as Simone, said, Tasha,

1189
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 1: are you reading these people want you to take accountability,

1190
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 1: just to own your mistake. Put yourself in other shoes

1191
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 1: nobody wants somebody to lie about them. It's disappointing to

1192
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 1: see the lack of accountability here. I think she missed

1193
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 1: a moment to rise above the situation.

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01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 5: M m all.

1195
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 2: You don't want to be you don't want to be

1196
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:17,640
Speaker 2: accountable for anything that you're saying or doing. At some

1197
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 2: point there has to be a form of accountability. And

1198
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 2: just because you were black, just because you're a black woman,

1199
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 2: does not excuse you for being accountable for your actions.

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01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so weird how people I don't.

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01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, the way people process is just kind of hard

1202
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 1: for me to follow sometimes, cause like that seems a

1203
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 1: cut and dry case of like doing some foul shit

1204
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 1: you shouldn't do.

1205
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 2: You know.

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01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 1: I was talking to a friend today, Actually in this

1207
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 1: next article it'll come up, but I'll talk to a

1208
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 1: friend today about something, and I was like, you know,

1209
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 1: a lot of times, the measurement I used when I'm

1210
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 1: like a little bit kind of wondering about some questionable

1211
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 1: shit somebody did, is what I do that with somebody

1212
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 1: I know? Do that? Would I be cool with a

1213
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 1: friend who did that? And a lot of times the

1214
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:10,000
Speaker 1: answer is like, Nah, that's it's it's that's kind of

1215
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 1: whack what you did? You know? And now I think

1216
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 1: that's okay to feel that way, like you've not a

1217
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:18,160
Speaker 1: bad person to be like that person did some whack

1218
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:20,880
Speaker 1: and now I don't. I don't want them to die.

1219
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 1: I don't not trying to hurt them, but just it's

1220
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:26,080
Speaker 1: a whack thing to do. You knew the consequences of

1221
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 1: this whack shit, and now you got to deal with

1222
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 1: the consequences. So just this next article, a recruiters was

1223
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 1: even backlash at the posting that she deliberately paid a

1224
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:37,360
Speaker 1: candidate a low offer because that's what she asked for

1225
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 1: even with the high budget. So apparently there's this woman

1226
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:48,800
Speaker 1: Mercedes Johnson who and I only say that because she

1227
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:52,360
Speaker 1: put it all out there and whatnot. She's so she's

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Speaker 1: like a professional recruiter. She works for Honeywell, and she

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01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 1: also does like some type of like coaching, career coaching

1230
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:09,280
Speaker 1: on the side kind of thing. And so in her

1231
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 1: recruiting job, she posted a Facebook post about how there

1232
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 1: was a candidate for a job. What she offered the

1233
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:22,960
Speaker 1: candidate eighty five thousand dollars for the job, but the

1234
01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 1: job had a budget of one hundred and thirty thousand dollars,

1235
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 1: she said. I offered her that because that's what she

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01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 1: asked for, and I personally don't have a bandwidth to

1237
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 1: give lessons on salary negotiation. Her lesson. Here's the lesson.

1238
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 1: Always ask for the salary you want deserve, no matter

1239
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 1: how large you think it might be. You never know

1240
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:45,400
Speaker 1: how much money a company has to work with. Hashtag

1241
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 1: be confident. So I think she was saying this as

1242
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:55,240
Speaker 1: a in her mind, a motivational thing, like you, the

1243
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 1: reader of this, whoever you are, asked for more and

1244
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 1: get more, get what you deserve, get what you.

1245
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 3: Earn, blah blah blah.

1246
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:04,520
Speaker 1: Right.

1247
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 3: Of course, that's not the way it was received.

1248
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:12,440
Speaker 1: And even the wording, I think, especially that word bandwidth,

1249
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 1: is doing a lot of work because that implies like

1250
01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 1: I could have helped this person, but I didn't feel

1251
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:24,360
Speaker 1: like it. And then I did feel like making this

1252
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 1: tweet or this post to kind of like illustrate this

1253
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 1: lesson to y'all, which I'm sorry, there's no good way

1254
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 1: to look at that. You could have helped that person

1255
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:39,680
Speaker 1: and you chose not to. I compare, I was making

1256
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 1: an analogy talking to you tonight, going to the store

1257
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 1: and I was like, it would be like me saying

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01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 1: I walked by a homeless person. He asked me, could

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01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:50,920
Speaker 1: he have a dollar? I said sure, and I gave

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01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 1: him a dollar. What he didn't know is I actually

1261
01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:57,120
Speaker 1: had four hundred dollars burning a hole in my pocket

1262
01:03:57,400 --> 01:03:59,040
Speaker 1: and I wanted to give it away. I would have

1263
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:01,560
Speaker 1: gave him four hundred dollar, but he only asked for one,

1264
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 1: so he got one dollar. The lesson for y'all is

1265
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:07,480
Speaker 1: to always ask for the most money you can get.

1266
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:11,160
Speaker 1: People would from me, and they would be rightfully so,

1267
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:15,000
Speaker 1: because there is a level of attitude that I'm saying

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01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:18,120
Speaker 1: that with. That's one I didn't have to share that,

1269
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:22,120
Speaker 1: and two, I'm saying it to make myself look better,

1270
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 1: you know, because that's ultimately what it's about.

1271
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 2: Right.

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01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:27,320
Speaker 1: There's no way to separate your sharing this on social

1273
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:28,800
Speaker 1: media because you think it puts you in some type

1274
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:31,959
Speaker 1: of good light. Even if your thing is I'm giving

1275
01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:34,080
Speaker 1: y'all the advice that I would have gave them, it's

1276
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:37,840
Speaker 1: still it's still kind of like a patting yourself on

1277
01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:42,040
Speaker 1: the back, right. But Yeah, the other thing is, you

1278
01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:44,120
Speaker 1: know that the internet's full of sharks. It's just not

1279
01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 1: they're not your friends. And I can't ignore that context

1280
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:53,600
Speaker 1: of it. You know. It's it's like I don't look

1281
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:55,520
Speaker 1: the both ways on across the street. It's like, okay,

1282
01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 1: when you get hit by the car, you knew it

1283
01:04:56,960 --> 01:04:58,960
Speaker 1: was a street though, you know.

1284
01:04:58,960 --> 01:04:59,280
Speaker 2: What I mean.

1285
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:04,720
Speaker 1: So it was hard for people to to you know,

1286
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:09,440
Speaker 1: obviously not go in on her. So they did, and

1287
01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 1: so she got she got fried, you know what I mean.

1288
01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:18,000
Speaker 1: Like Honeywell on Twitter, who's supposed to be her employer,

1289
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:20,880
Speaker 1: like d like said basically like, yeah, we need you

1290
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:22,960
Speaker 1: to go ahead and dm us because this is not

1291
01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:24,560
Speaker 1: our policy, this isn't our practice.

1292
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:28,320
Speaker 2: No company would allow you to even make that to

1293
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 2: come in online.

1294
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:32,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, she put high at Journey in the tech. That

1295
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:35,480
Speaker 1: doesn't seem right if this is about a Honeywell employee,

1296
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:38,760
Speaker 1: Please dm us more information about the posts and link

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Speaker 1: to the comments. Thank you, Steve.

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Speaker 2: And so.

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Speaker 1: Then who was this Marquise Lewis? Oh okay, So then

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Speaker 1: people just started posting to Honeywell the evidence or whatever,

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Speaker 1: and you know, frying her, making jokes people like if

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Speaker 1: you just got hired by her, make sure you ask

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Speaker 1: for a forty five thousand dollars raise today. People find

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Speaker 1: out what she worned. People were sharing that information they

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Speaker 1: found out about her, her her side hustle being this

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Speaker 1: social media consultant, talent acquisition consultant, entrepreneur, social media consultant,

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Speaker 1: and people it was like, then, why didn't you tell

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Speaker 1: the woman about the interview? You know, why would you

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Speaker 1: use the opportunity to mash her down?

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Speaker 3: Blah blah blah. And I think it's interesting because.

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Speaker 1: Everyone's in the content business now, so like something happens

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Speaker 1: to you, and it's kind of like you need to

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Speaker 1: decide is that content or not? And y' also should

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Speaker 1: be thinking about your audience. And in this case, she

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Speaker 1: decided something was content that I think is not content. Nope,

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Speaker 1: But that's like even if that is your job, because

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Speaker 1: it sounds like that's her job. Like people were kind

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Speaker 1: of being like making it seem like she personally went

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Speaker 1: out to get this woman, which isn't true. They were

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Speaker 1: making it seem like she was purposely harming this woman,

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Speaker 1: which also isn't true. You like, you can't be harmed

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Speaker 1: by potential earnings you didn't get and didn't ask for.

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Speaker 1: That's not really the same as harm. Like to me,

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Speaker 1: harming her would be like she asked for one hundred

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Speaker 1: and thirty thousand, and you said, hell, no, I'm underpinning

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Speaker 1: you on purpose, you know, so like harm like, And

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Speaker 1: this is what my friend was talking about that Well,

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Speaker 1: she has some I think she has some good points.

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Speaker 1: The language that we talk about these things with is

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Speaker 1: so hyperbolic an academic and it's reminds me that book

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Speaker 1: conflict is not abuse. The language is such an escalation.

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Speaker 1: We don't have a middle ground of she should probably

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Speaker 1: be reprimanded, she should possibly be talked to, They should

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Speaker 1: make see if this is a something where the company

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Speaker 1: doesn't want her doing this, which we don't know. I

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Speaker 1: actually think the company probably does want.

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Speaker 2: Her doing this, but saving the money.

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Speaker 1: If this is something that is against company policy for real,

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Speaker 1: for real, then looking to that and correct it, you

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And I think we don't have

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Speaker 1: that amount of nuance available to us online. So it's

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Speaker 1: either she must be fired or she didn't do anything wrong,

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Speaker 1: or we need to leave her a law.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no middle man, there's no gray area because

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Speaker 2: the thing is like a lot of shit. People are

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Speaker 2: mad at the systemic problem, not this one individual person,

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Speaker 2: but because somebody has got to be always fed through

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Speaker 2: the machine. This particular lady just happened to be the

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Speaker 2: person that got picked for this hour, and they're gonna

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Speaker 2: feed her to the machine and then when something else

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Speaker 2: happens in the next twenty four to forty eight hours,

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Speaker 2: we only we've been donna forget who.

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Speaker 3: Cause it's because it's obvious.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you have to be a fucking hit it

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Speaker 1: not to know. The obvious thing is you shouldn't say

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Speaker 1: it like like you have to be like I don't

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Speaker 1: even think I almost wouldn't make that almost didn't even

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Speaker 1: make that point this far because I don't think anyone

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Speaker 1: is stupid enough to think this was smart to share.

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Speaker 1: So so getting past the obvious, because you know, we

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Speaker 1: don't have a time machine, and it always comes down

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Speaker 1: to this, right, the only solution people have to offer

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Speaker 1: is essentially a time machine, because there's no like she

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Speaker 1: issued a long apology today. I saw it before we

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Speaker 1: went live, and you know, it's been a couple of

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Speaker 1: days or whatever since she or a day or two

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Speaker 1: since this incident. So she had created like a Twitter

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Speaker 1: account to try to explain her reasoning, and she ended

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Speaker 1: up deleting that shit.

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Speaker 2: Because no matter what, because once they on your ass,

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Speaker 2: there's nothing you are wrong. There's nothing you can say

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Speaker 2: and or do to fix the problem. And the thing is,

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Speaker 2: for a lot of people, you're talking to a lot

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Speaker 2: of people who are people don't unemployed, people are looking

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Speaker 2: for jobs, people have been a lot of people are underpaid,

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Speaker 2: overqualified for their jobs. You have a lot of people

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Speaker 2: that may have went through the same situation, and you're

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Speaker 2: dealing with all these types of people. And the anchor

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Speaker 2: is pointing out.

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Speaker 1: Also, it is content for us. Now you made it content.

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Speaker 1: This is a thing that could have done. This may

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Speaker 1: have been the kind of thing that she went and

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Speaker 1: told somebody at a HR meeting or whatever who you know,

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Speaker 1: the hiring meeting, whoever her budgeting staff is, and they

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Speaker 1: would have been like, girl, you did your thing right. Wow,

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Speaker 1: you got us this employee for this amount of money

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Speaker 1: when we had this much budgeted. Thank you. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: take this. You're gonna get a bonus. Like low key,

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Speaker 1: that's probably what that job is entails. But it has

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Speaker 1: because we operate on this like kind of place of

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Speaker 1: moral hierarchy online.

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Speaker 3: You know, we don't look at it that way.

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Speaker 1: We're looking at it like, you evil bitch, you fucking screwge,

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Speaker 1: you fucking kind could you do this to this woman?

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So that's how we're looking

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Speaker 1: at it. And honestly, to me, I'm like, you have

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Speaker 1: a lack of judgment because I could have told you

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Speaker 1: that would happen. Almost everybody can tell you what would happen,

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Speaker 1: you know, like, who how did you think this would

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Speaker 1: play out? But the other part of it, though, is

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Speaker 1: like she issues this apology and my thing was like, sure,

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Speaker 1: but nobody cares. No one's gonna believe you that. Too

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Speaker 1: many people have decided you did this out of a malicious,

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Speaker 1: evil place because they need to believe that, regardless of

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Speaker 1: you being you know, a black woman and all that

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Speaker 1: shit in this case, they need to believe that so

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Speaker 1: they can feel like they're the heroes. You have to

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Speaker 1: be the most evil, villainous woman. You can't be like y'all.

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Speaker 1: I see how I play myself, and I fucked up,

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Speaker 1: you know. She said. The perpose of that post is

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Speaker 1: that empower others not to end up like this particular candidate.

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Speaker 3: I want people to know their worth.

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Speaker 1: I made that post at the risk of my job

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Speaker 1: because it's not right that many don't know what their

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Speaker 1: skills are worth. And who knows that she still got

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Speaker 1: that job?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 3: See the wording of this is like, I don't know,

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Speaker 3: Monday gonna be an interesting.

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Speaker 2: Name, gonna be real interesting altus. A lot of folks

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Speaker 2: done got the teen chance emails and shit at your

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Speaker 2: job over the weekend. The Internet is not your friend,

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Speaker 2: and they will turn on you and they will laugh

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Speaker 2: at you when you lose everything.

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Speaker 3: I learned a lot from our recent posts.

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Speaker 1: I understand now feel now feel how my posts made

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Speaker 1: a lot of people feel, especially the candidate that was

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Speaker 1: directly impacted by my choice. It doesn't feel good, and

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Speaker 1: this should have gone differently. She deserves to be paid

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Speaker 1: what she's worth from the company, despite what she thinks

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Speaker 1: the job responsibility is are worth. While this is a

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Speaker 1: common practice in the hiring space, it should not have

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Speaker 1: been a public learning experience, but an internal one. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and that's the thing you made that public thing. It

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Speaker 1: didn't need to be, you know. I think about this

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Speaker 1: a lot when it comes to like relationship stuff where

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Speaker 1: people you see people saying stuff about relationships, and to me,

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Speaker 1: I just think that's a totally reasonable thing.

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Speaker 3: To have in a relationship. It's very normal, it's very.

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Speaker 1: Routine. Maybe you can argue whether it's healthy or not.

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Speaker 1: That really depends on people's relationships. And it can be

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Speaker 1: anything like it can be something that that people go

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Speaker 1: up for on social media. It could be something that

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Speaker 1: people hate on social media. But either way, there's things

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Speaker 1: when I hear two people talking, I'm like, you know, okay,

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Speaker 1: I can see how that will work for y'all. You know,

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Speaker 1: you know women that are like, listen, I don't give

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Speaker 1: a fuck he come home, I'm gonna have his food ready,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this, that and the other. And I'm like,

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Speaker 1: if you say that shit on Facebook, you gonna get fried.

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Speaker 1: But if that's what works for you and your man

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Speaker 1: and your relationship, and you truly do love that shit,

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Speaker 1: that's you like being Susie homemaker or whatever, there ain't

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Speaker 1: nothing wrong with that long as you feel respecting it

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Speaker 1: in your relationship, long as y'all think that's healthy, as

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Speaker 1: long as you know there's nothing abusive happening in.

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Speaker 2: Your home, good for you. Right.

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Speaker 1: But the second you tell everybody and it becomes everybody's business,

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Speaker 1: then everybody gonna bring their opinion and a lot of

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Speaker 1: these motherfuckers have had a completely different life experience than you,

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Speaker 1: completely different moral makeup. They will not see it the

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Speaker 1: way you see it. And however that affects you emotionally,

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Speaker 1: understand you low key did that to yourself because you

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Speaker 1: needed their validation. And there's nothing people like more than

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Speaker 1: taking that away from someone, like, Oh, you need me

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Speaker 1: to tell you this is good? It ain't, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Like, it could be whatever the fuck you know what

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Speaker 3: I'm saying, like unless.

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Speaker 1: You put it out. If you put it out that

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Speaker 1: you need to be a strong person that's willing to

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Speaker 1: deal with that bullshit. So you know, I know I've

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Speaker 1: made I've talked about, you know, making all the meals

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Speaker 1: and floating at the clothes and all this type of shit. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and it's some nigga, Come tell me, I'm a you

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Speaker 1: a whole ass bitch. I'm totally fine dealing with that.

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Speaker 1: I knew when I said the shit, that's how some

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Speaker 1: regressive ass nigga's gonna think. Okay, cool, Well, I hope

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Speaker 1: that makes you happy. I'm gonna still be over the

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Speaker 1: phot and clothes, doing dishes and fucking cooking food. I

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Speaker 1: don't really give a fuck, but you need to be

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Speaker 1: at that place of security before you share any of

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Speaker 1: this kind of shit, right Because she even said she

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Speaker 1: she knew she would be risking her job to do this,

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, but for what, for what, my nigga,

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Speaker 1: what could have been the good? What could have been

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Speaker 1: the possible outcome of this that that made it worth

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Speaker 1: risking your job? I just don't get it. And I

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Speaker 1: don't like you care that much about the Internet and

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Speaker 1: the cloud of it that you know that puts people

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Speaker 1: in a bad position a lot of times.

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Speaker 2: Some people just gonna pick and laugh at you when

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Speaker 2: you lose your job, and people that are going to

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Speaker 2: pick and laugh at you, and people that are going

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Speaker 2: to turn it back on you and you and all

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Speaker 2: of a sudd and you're thinking you're a superhero, and

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Speaker 2: you know in their mind you're you're the bad person.

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Speaker 2: And you know for when you put things online, you

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Speaker 2: have no control over it. And once you understand that

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Speaker 2: people will actually think about the things that they put online.

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Speaker 2: Once you hit send the post, you no longer will

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Speaker 2: have control over what people choose to do or how

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Speaker 2: they choose to perceive your words.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, at best case scenario, you're well intentioned

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Speaker 1: and you misstated, you know, you misjudged something you should

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Speaker 1: tell people like, and the way you framed it, that's

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Speaker 1: the best case. Worst case scenario, you kind of would

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Speaker 1: be in a mean girl on Twitter and you kind

1509
01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:44,599
Speaker 1: of got caught out there. Anyway. She goes on to say, hope,

1510
01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:46,600
Speaker 1: for some it was a message about worth, but I

1511
01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:49,840
Speaker 1: don't take lightly the salary disparities that happen in corporations.

1512
01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:51,479
Speaker 1: It is not to be made light of.

1513
01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:54,679
Speaker 3: Wow, that was not my tent. I have to acknowledge

1514
01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:55,759
Speaker 3: the impact of my statement.

1515
01:16:56,360 --> 01:16:59,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you know another thing that I think people

1516
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:01,240
Speaker 1: didn't really think about them Maybe they did not just

1517
01:17:01,439 --> 01:17:04,200
Speaker 1: wasn't involved a conversation, but you were talking about a

1518
01:17:04,240 --> 01:17:10,840
Speaker 1: woman candidate and essentially underpaying them, which is a huge

1519
01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:12,799
Speaker 1: problem within every industry.

1520
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:15,360
Speaker 3: Almost so she would have.

1521
01:17:15,439 --> 01:17:20,120
Speaker 1: Eventually been next to her peers, her either her coworkers

1522
01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:23,479
Speaker 1: or just other people at other companies in that salary range,

1523
01:17:24,040 --> 01:17:27,360
Speaker 1: and she would have been near forty five thousand dollars underpaid.

1524
01:17:28,240 --> 01:17:31,560
Speaker 1: And we wonder how these systemic things happen. And I

1525
01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:34,759
Speaker 1: always say it's not a Sometimes it's not a systemic issue.

1526
01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:37,479
Speaker 1: A systemic issue is made up. Systems are made of people,

1527
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:41,599
Speaker 1: and it's a bunch of individual choices. So you made

1528
01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:44,560
Speaker 1: this individual choice, but it adds to the system that

1529
01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:48,120
Speaker 1: is already in place. It doesn't really make you a

1530
01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:51,439
Speaker 1: hero or any you know in this story, right, And.

1531
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:54,280
Speaker 2: Like I said, it's a systemic problem. That's the issue.

1532
01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:55,960
Speaker 1: You already have.

1533
01:17:57,560 --> 01:18:01,280
Speaker 2: A lot of jobs that don't list out. They don't

1534
01:18:01,320 --> 01:18:03,960
Speaker 2: tell you. They tell you maybe the starting, but they

1535
01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:05,519
Speaker 2: don't tell you where it max out. You have a

1536
01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:07,479
Speaker 2: lot of jobs they're very hush hushed, even though you

1537
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:11,160
Speaker 2: can talk to your your coworkers with a lot of

1538
01:18:11,160 --> 01:18:13,280
Speaker 2: people don't and a lot of that is because they

1539
01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:15,599
Speaker 2: don't want people to know their worth. And a lot

1540
01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:17,640
Speaker 2: of people don't know their worth, particularly a lot of

1541
01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:19,840
Speaker 2: black and brown people. They go in not knowing their

1542
01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:21,880
Speaker 2: worth from the beginning, like because they just don't know.

1543
01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:24,040
Speaker 2: And so for a lot of people that was a

1544
01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:25,439
Speaker 2: slap in the face. Its like, well, bitch, how was

1545
01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:27,240
Speaker 2: she supposed to know she had a maxipe hundred and

1546
01:18:27,320 --> 01:18:28,599
Speaker 2: thirty thousand dollars hundred.

1547
01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:32,160
Speaker 1: Yeah. And the other thing too, was you know, because

1548
01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:34,560
Speaker 1: my friend was like cause she was like, you know,

1549
01:18:34,720 --> 01:18:37,280
Speaker 1: it's kind of weird that would It feels like people

1550
01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:40,720
Speaker 1: are powering on this lady in a way that is

1551
01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:44,920
Speaker 1: not really about her anymore, you know which I mean, shit,

1552
01:18:44,920 --> 01:18:48,600
Speaker 1: it's the Internet, that's kind of given right, But you know,

1553
01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:50,720
Speaker 1: her thing was like, you know, I could see if

1554
01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:53,160
Speaker 1: it was for somebody doing something like racist or this,

1555
01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:56,000
Speaker 1: that and the other. And I'm like, this is sexist though,

1556
01:18:57,680 --> 01:19:00,479
Speaker 1: because you know that women are more pro to ask

1557
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:04,160
Speaker 1: for less yes, and the fact that this is your

1558
01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:06,120
Speaker 1: job and you claim to be against this type of

1559
01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:09,040
Speaker 1: disparity and you claim to be for equality and for women.

1560
01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:11,760
Speaker 1: I do feel like the onus is on you in

1561
01:19:11,840 --> 01:19:14,439
Speaker 1: that case to be like we can offer you more

1562
01:19:14,479 --> 01:19:17,840
Speaker 1: than that, you know what I'm saying, just because it's wrong,

1563
01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:21,240
Speaker 1: Like how many times are we gonna do this study

1564
01:19:21,320 --> 01:19:22,840
Speaker 1: and do this thing? And I think it's up to

1565
01:19:22,920 --> 01:19:24,840
Speaker 1: you to be if you're in a position like this,

1566
01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:28,080
Speaker 1: to know that that's wrong and it can't be like

1567
01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:30,639
Speaker 1: a up for debate type of thing. It is wrong

1568
01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:33,880
Speaker 1: to look at this woman and be like fuck you

1569
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:37,160
Speaker 1: kinda lord up, you fucked up? Dn' youha? Let me

1570
01:19:37,240 --> 01:19:40,120
Speaker 1: go tell this life lesson everybody like Nah, that's wrong.

1571
01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:42,840
Speaker 1: Since she said I hope to one day be able

1572
01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:45,960
Speaker 1: to help candidates be aware of the salary rates they

1573
01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:48,280
Speaker 1: should ask for before it ends with another forty five

1574
01:19:48,360 --> 01:19:50,880
Speaker 1: k difference in pay. Now, that seems like her kind

1575
01:19:50,920 --> 01:19:54,160
Speaker 1: of pointing out the company policy, Like and I bet

1576
01:19:54,280 --> 01:19:57,000
Speaker 1: that I would. That's why I said, I almost people

1577
01:19:57,080 --> 01:19:58,800
Speaker 1: keep thinking she should get fired and shit, and I'm like,

1578
01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:02,680
Speaker 1: it's sound from the company's point, she would be doing

1579
01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:06,599
Speaker 1: a good job, which says a lot about the whole

1580
01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:10,240
Speaker 1: system of hiring, right, because from the company's perspective, Wow,

1581
01:20:10,479 --> 01:20:14,760
Speaker 1: you say those forty five thousand dollars, but obviously that

1582
01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:18,840
Speaker 1: scenes fouled, you know, just in a life as a

1583
01:20:18,920 --> 01:20:21,519
Speaker 1: life perspective, It's like, that's kind of fucked up, right.

1584
01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:26,120
Speaker 2: And also you're talking about systemic problems. Women ask for less,

1585
01:20:26,920 --> 01:20:31,040
Speaker 2: women get paid less, women are punished the naughty salary,

1586
01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:34,519
Speaker 2: that punished for the possibility that they might get pregnant,

1587
01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:38,200
Speaker 2: that should punished for having children, leaving work early when

1588
01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:40,559
Speaker 2: the child gets sick. So it's like, when you look

1589
01:20:40,600 --> 01:20:44,200
Speaker 2: at all these oppressions that a lot of women already

1590
01:20:44,240 --> 01:20:46,960
Speaker 2: have to deal with, people are like, hey, this right here,

1591
01:20:47,080 --> 01:20:48,559
Speaker 2: I don't want to hear nothing of this shit you're

1592
01:20:48,560 --> 01:20:49,040
Speaker 2: talking about.

1593
01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:55,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, and like, like I said, you didn't have to

1594
01:20:55,280 --> 01:20:58,240
Speaker 1: share this, so this has only happened to you because

1595
01:20:58,240 --> 01:21:02,400
Speaker 1: you shared it. But and maybe you don't want to

1596
01:21:02,439 --> 01:21:04,679
Speaker 1: be the person that sacrifices and says to your company

1597
01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:08,320
Speaker 1: we need to put the whole salary range or something

1598
01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:11,320
Speaker 1: like that, like let's stop just listing the salary as

1599
01:21:11,439 --> 01:21:13,920
Speaker 1: the lowest. You know what I'm saying, Like, maybe you

1600
01:21:13,960 --> 01:21:16,080
Speaker 1: can be part of that change, because I think they

1601
01:21:16,160 --> 01:21:19,320
Speaker 1: put you in a bad position where if we're being honest,

1602
01:21:19,560 --> 01:21:22,280
Speaker 1: if let's say she never shared this, this is just

1603
01:21:22,360 --> 01:21:25,200
Speaker 1: the process. The jobs were for one hundred and thirty.

1604
01:21:25,280 --> 01:21:27,840
Speaker 1: They don't list it for one hundred and thirty. They go, well,

1605
01:21:27,880 --> 01:21:29,880
Speaker 1: what would you ask for? And then the person goes

1606
01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:34,160
Speaker 1: eighty five thousand. It's a problem within the industry that

1607
01:21:35,320 --> 01:21:38,400
Speaker 1: you are hamstrung in your job where you can't say, well,

1608
01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:42,439
Speaker 1: I just want to let you know this. The range

1609
01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:43,759
Speaker 1: for this is blank.

1610
01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:46,840
Speaker 2: I guarantee you is to get the policy for guarantee.

1611
01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:49,840
Speaker 1: Right, which is like which I think is very funny

1612
01:21:49,880 --> 01:21:53,080
Speaker 1: to see Honeywell tweet that like we would never say

1613
01:21:53,120 --> 01:21:56,160
Speaker 1: And because I'm like, would you though, because it sounded

1614
01:21:56,240 --> 01:21:58,840
Speaker 1: like she was talking around policy, because it didn't sound

1615
01:21:58,920 --> 01:22:03,040
Speaker 1: like she didn't like and I don't know if it's

1616
01:22:03,120 --> 01:22:05,000
Speaker 1: zoom or so, maybe it's being recorded and you can't

1617
01:22:05,040 --> 01:22:07,160
Speaker 1: just come out and say, but it sounded like she

1618
01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:10,000
Speaker 1: felt like, one, it wasn't her job, but then two,

1619
01:22:10,720 --> 01:22:13,840
Speaker 1: she's not supposed to be like, hang on, don't you

1620
01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:16,200
Speaker 1: mean one hundred and twenty? You know what I mean? Like,

1621
01:22:16,640 --> 01:22:18,599
Speaker 1: it sounds like she's supposed to be like, okay, well,

1622
01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:21,240
Speaker 1: eighty five thousand. She said, I'm not a risk taker,

1623
01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:23,040
Speaker 1: but I took a risk for another person. I still

1624
01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:24,599
Speaker 1: don't see how this is a risk for that person.

1625
01:22:25,400 --> 01:22:28,320
Speaker 1: I don't know what race the candidate is, so maybe

1626
01:22:28,360 --> 01:22:33,680
Speaker 1: it wasn't. Maybe it's just an application or something. All

1627
01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:35,559
Speaker 1: I know is that this candidate didn't realize what therere

1628
01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:38,000
Speaker 1: worth so much more. I just wanted to instill confidence.

1629
01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:41,040
Speaker 1: Hashtag worth, hashtag value, hashtag this is on the hashtag

1630
01:22:41,120 --> 01:22:44,040
Speaker 1: be confident. So yeah, she gonna keep getting fried. Already

1631
01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:45,960
Speaker 1: seen people be like, yeah, we don't believe you.

1632
01:22:46,160 --> 01:22:48,439
Speaker 2: So I do believe this is part of that policy

1633
01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:50,479
Speaker 2: and a part of their culture. She might just be

1634
01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:53,560
Speaker 2: the person that does seize that type of information. It

1635
01:22:53,680 --> 01:22:55,559
Speaker 2: just kind of sounds off phon, but oh okay.

1636
01:22:56,240 --> 01:22:58,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, So, like I said, I.

1637
01:22:59,600 --> 01:23:04,200
Speaker 1: I do understand, you know, the idea like this is

1638
01:23:04,240 --> 01:23:08,519
Speaker 1: an opportunity to like educate not fire her. I really do.

1639
01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:13,519
Speaker 1: I don't think she's some evil Cuella Deville character, you

1640
01:23:13,560 --> 01:23:17,080
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying that, Like, I do believe she

1641
01:23:17,400 --> 01:23:20,400
Speaker 1: thought in her original message that she was helping and

1642
01:23:20,520 --> 01:23:23,280
Speaker 1: I think you can work with that in a human being.

1643
01:23:23,800 --> 01:23:26,479
Speaker 1: And I do find that funny that it's mostly my

1644
01:23:27,439 --> 01:23:31,760
Speaker 1: super liberal you know, forgive everybody in prison, I ask

1645
01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:34,479
Speaker 1: niggas that's on some like fuck this bitch, you know,

1646
01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:38,880
Speaker 1: she need to die, be poor. Like, like, I do

1647
01:23:39,120 --> 01:23:41,519
Speaker 1: find it ironic that those are the people that are

1648
01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:45,240
Speaker 1: the most mad. But I get it though, because I

1649
01:23:45,320 --> 01:23:46,920
Speaker 1: did it. When I read it, I was mad.

1650
01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:48,240
Speaker 3: I was like, that was so stupid.

1651
01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:51,920
Speaker 1: Why did you do that? And like not even just

1652
01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:53,840
Speaker 1: why did you share it? But like, I think what

1653
01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:56,200
Speaker 1: you did was bad. I don't think that was a

1654
01:23:56,280 --> 01:23:59,840
Speaker 1: cool thing to do. And if I had that kind

1655
01:23:59,840 --> 01:24:02,160
Speaker 1: of job and I was doing a good job by

1656
01:24:02,320 --> 01:24:05,600
Speaker 1: underpaying people, I would not be happy about it, you know,

1657
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:08,880
Speaker 1: and like I said, maybe she thought that was her

1658
01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:12,519
Speaker 1: rebellion against the job by saying like this is foul,

1659
01:24:12,640 --> 01:24:15,560
Speaker 1: y'all should because they really got me hemmed up in

1660
01:24:15,640 --> 01:24:18,479
Speaker 1: this office where I can't just say ask for more.

1661
01:24:19,040 --> 01:24:21,680
Speaker 1: But if y'all here and you got you can hear

1662
01:24:21,720 --> 01:24:24,920
Speaker 1: the side of my voice, please ask for more. Maybe

1663
01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:26,680
Speaker 1: she thought she was helping and I can't give her

1664
01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:28,200
Speaker 1: that level of benefit of the doubt.

1665
01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:30,479
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's still bad luck.

1666
01:24:31,080 --> 01:24:34,639
Speaker 1: So I'm like I told my friend, I'm not saying

1667
01:24:35,120 --> 01:24:38,320
Speaker 1: she should get fired, but I'd be lying if I

1668
01:24:38,360 --> 01:24:40,920
Speaker 1: said I cared or she got fired, I'd be lying.

1669
01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:45,840
Speaker 1: I think it's that that's such bad judgment. You know,

1670
01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:48,599
Speaker 1: it's Justine Sacho on that plane, you know, like where

1671
01:24:48,600 --> 01:24:50,160
Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, you lost your job.

1672
01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:53,160
Speaker 3: I mean that sucks.

1673
01:24:54,479 --> 01:24:56,679
Speaker 2: You just the person of the minute, and I try

1674
01:24:56,720 --> 01:24:59,160
Speaker 2: to tell you tomorrow morning we'd be talking about something

1675
01:24:59,240 --> 01:24:59,920
Speaker 2: that somebody else.

1676
01:25:00,160 --> 01:25:02,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's the perfect Facebook meme because it's like

1677
01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:03,000
Speaker 3: a rut.

1678
01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:07,280
Speaker 1: It's a rush act test where like depending on what

1679
01:25:07,800 --> 01:25:13,040
Speaker 1: information you decide is probable didn't that determines how you

1680
01:25:13,080 --> 01:25:14,720
Speaker 1: feel about it. You know, if you want to make

1681
01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:17,519
Speaker 1: it seem like she just didn't understand. You can say that,

1682
01:25:17,680 --> 01:25:19,240
Speaker 1: and then you can feel bad for her. If you

1683
01:25:19,280 --> 01:25:22,840
Speaker 1: want to say she maliciously underpaid this woman to harm her,

1684
01:25:23,479 --> 01:25:25,840
Speaker 1: you can say that. Finding out that it wasn't even

1685
01:25:25,880 --> 01:25:28,880
Speaker 1: in person. She don't even know the person's race. To me,

1686
01:25:29,040 --> 01:25:31,040
Speaker 1: that tells me a lot. And this is like a

1687
01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:33,760
Speaker 1: pushing paper type of thing, and she thought she could

1688
01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:36,320
Speaker 1: drop some bars and it wasn't even the personal way

1689
01:25:36,360 --> 01:25:39,360
Speaker 1: that we are thinking of an interview. What she like,

1690
01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:41,680
Speaker 1: quote unquote tried to harm this person. I don't even

1691
01:25:41,680 --> 01:25:45,960
Speaker 1: think that crossed her mind, but whatever. Snoop Dogg is

1692
01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:48,680
Speaker 1: impressed about cancel culture. I wish a motherfucker would try

1693
01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:49,200
Speaker 1: to cancel me.

1694
01:25:49,439 --> 01:25:51,679
Speaker 2: Of course, he ain't pressed about it. He black and old.

1695
01:25:52,680 --> 01:25:54,800
Speaker 3: He said, the cancel community is not bigger than.

1696
01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:55,479
Speaker 1: My fan base.

1697
01:25:56,240 --> 01:25:59,439
Speaker 2: Nope, I tell y'all.

1698
01:25:59,520 --> 01:26:02,080
Speaker 1: Nope. Yeah. He was talking about the Baby and Dave

1699
01:26:02,200 --> 01:26:05,519
Speaker 1: Chappelle as examples of people that's recently been.

1700
01:26:07,479 --> 01:26:08,400
Speaker 3: Trying to be canceled.

1701
01:26:08,439 --> 01:26:10,240
Speaker 1: They said, you know, he said their fans still love

1702
01:26:10,280 --> 01:26:11,919
Speaker 1: and support them despite all that outrage.

1703
01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:18,599
Speaker 2: I'm not arguing with him, and I'm not gonna lie

1704
01:26:18,640 --> 01:26:19,679
Speaker 2: that wine is flames.

1705
01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:23,160
Speaker 1: Oh, there you go. The wine is flames. Scaren's commentary

1706
01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:27,599
Speaker 1: on that for you, Spotify finally responds to the Joe

1707
01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:32,640
Speaker 1: Rogan controversy. Oh and for me, he's absolutely right.

1708
01:26:32,720 --> 01:26:34,320
Speaker 3: Oh man, A snoop dog is right.

1709
01:26:34,439 --> 01:26:38,799
Speaker 1: He's not cancelable. But neither of those other people. And honestly,

1710
01:26:39,000 --> 01:26:41,519
Speaker 1: I think the people that say that shit like fuck

1711
01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:44,719
Speaker 1: cancel culture are the ones that really get the real pass.

1712
01:26:45,840 --> 01:26:48,400
Speaker 1: It's always the people that kind of want to please

1713
01:26:48,640 --> 01:26:51,320
Speaker 1: and want to be seen as good people and do

1714
01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:54,160
Speaker 1: all this. They're not really secure with themselves and they

1715
01:26:54,240 --> 01:26:58,080
Speaker 1: do all this, like trying to make amends and all

1716
01:26:58,120 --> 01:27:02,360
Speaker 1: this shit. These people are say this, they're not They're

1717
01:27:02,439 --> 01:27:05,360
Speaker 1: not going to forgive these people. It's like that woman

1718
01:27:05,439 --> 01:27:07,160
Speaker 1: in the last thing. The first thing people said was

1719
01:27:07,200 --> 01:27:10,840
Speaker 1: this is fake. You can't you you're not getting forgiven, doc.

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01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:15,840
Speaker 1: So you almost better off arriving at the fuck y'all

1721
01:27:15,880 --> 01:27:19,160
Speaker 1: point right away so that you don't so that you

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01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:21,120
Speaker 1: can be like, yeah, y'all don't have power over me.

1723
01:27:21,640 --> 01:27:23,240
Speaker 1: I think I can go down a list of people

1724
01:27:23,360 --> 01:27:26,000
Speaker 1: that not not Now I'm not even talking about that.

1725
01:27:26,120 --> 01:27:29,360
Speaker 1: They got canceled and they came back I'm not even

1726
01:27:29,360 --> 01:27:31,280
Speaker 1: talking about that list. I'm talking about another list that

1727
01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:34,080
Speaker 1: people don't talk about, the list where they go fuck

1728
01:27:34,160 --> 01:27:35,120
Speaker 1: you right away.

1729
01:27:35,120 --> 01:27:37,559
Speaker 2: Yes, kiss my ass, and they just keep it trucking.

1730
01:27:38,240 --> 01:27:41,000
Speaker 1: That list of people who I, by the way, not

1731
01:27:41,479 --> 01:27:44,080
Speaker 1: don't look up to them, don't think that the heroes,

1732
01:27:44,439 --> 01:27:46,320
Speaker 1: don't think it's a good way to act or any

1733
01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:53,479
Speaker 1: of this shit matrix. But those people absolutely are the

1734
01:27:53,600 --> 01:27:58,200
Speaker 1: ones who seem to be the least affected by all

1735
01:27:58,280 --> 01:28:03,240
Speaker 1: this shit. It's fifty Cent, it's Little Devar, it's your

1736
01:28:03,280 --> 01:28:07,160
Speaker 1: Snoop Dogs, it's Dave Chappelle. They continue to be extremely

1737
01:28:07,240 --> 01:28:12,960
Speaker 1: successful in a way that's so interesting because the industries

1738
01:28:13,400 --> 01:28:15,839
Speaker 1: and the people that claim to have all these morals

1739
01:28:15,920 --> 01:28:18,720
Speaker 1: and take a stand in black squares for this day

1740
01:28:18,920 --> 01:28:24,120
Speaker 1: and and you know, hashtag this whatever, they those are

1741
01:28:24,200 --> 01:28:26,880
Speaker 1: the same companies that say that shit. Those are the

1742
01:28:26,960 --> 01:28:30,080
Speaker 1: same celebrities that wear those shirts, and they be all

1743
01:28:30,160 --> 01:28:33,000
Speaker 1: up in the videos of them people because those people said,

1744
01:28:33,320 --> 01:28:35,640
Speaker 1: I just don't care. I'm not playing that game, and

1745
01:28:35,680 --> 01:28:37,200
Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck. If you don't like me,

1746
01:28:37,600 --> 01:28:40,000
Speaker 1: I'll find people who do. And there's nothing you'll ever

1747
01:28:40,040 --> 01:28:42,280
Speaker 1: be able to do to me. And for the most part,

1748
01:28:42,920 --> 01:28:44,000
Speaker 1: they're one hundred percent.

1749
01:28:43,960 --> 01:28:47,040
Speaker 2: Right, Yes they are, while everybody else walking on the eggshells.

1750
01:28:47,080 --> 01:28:48,320
Speaker 2: They living in best lives.

1751
01:28:49,040 --> 01:28:51,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, ironically. Yeah, And if you fucking.

1752
01:28:53,040 --> 01:28:56,360
Speaker 1: Capitulate, if you blink, then that's when you start seeing

1753
01:28:56,400 --> 01:28:58,439
Speaker 1: people really lose shit. But it's always when they go,

1754
01:28:58,680 --> 01:29:02,679
Speaker 1: I'm not blinking that It just yeah, like they really

1755
01:29:02,760 --> 01:29:06,519
Speaker 1: call society's bluff on all this shit. They like, like

1756
01:29:07,000 --> 01:29:09,599
Speaker 1: there's something like I said, I'm not this is not praise.

1757
01:29:09,680 --> 01:29:12,759
Speaker 1: This is just the way I'm seeing it. There's something

1758
01:29:12,800 --> 01:29:16,040
Speaker 1: about Dave Chappelle that called the bluff of a company

1759
01:29:16,160 --> 01:29:18,880
Speaker 1: like Netflix that claims to be about inclusion. He called

1760
01:29:18,920 --> 01:29:23,160
Speaker 1: their bluff. He said, you're a corporation, and I know

1761
01:29:23,479 --> 01:29:28,080
Speaker 1: that corporately, you don't really give a fuck about this.

1762
01:29:29,160 --> 01:29:30,960
Speaker 1: You give a fuck about how much money I can

1763
01:29:31,000 --> 01:29:32,680
Speaker 1: make you, how much prestige it gives you to be

1764
01:29:32,760 --> 01:29:36,639
Speaker 1: around me. That's more powerful than all this other shit.

1765
01:29:37,560 --> 01:29:40,559
Speaker 1: And he called their bluff and he was right, because

1766
01:29:40,720 --> 01:29:43,400
Speaker 1: they're gonna they're probably negotiating to get more specials today

1767
01:29:43,400 --> 01:29:43,920
Speaker 1: if they could.

1768
01:29:44,640 --> 01:29:46,200
Speaker 3: They don't give a fuck, None of them do.

1769
01:29:48,160 --> 01:29:52,920
Speaker 1: And that's just the corporations a snoop Dogg and fifty

1770
01:29:52,960 --> 01:29:58,560
Speaker 1: Cent called out your bluff person listening like they like,

1771
01:29:58,680 --> 01:30:00,360
Speaker 1: they're not just talking about the Super Bowl own shit

1772
01:30:00,479 --> 01:30:03,200
Speaker 1: in the NFL. They're talking about you person that's listening.

1773
01:30:04,800 --> 01:30:07,240
Speaker 2: Shit, but you do you on power chapping them A

1774
01:30:07,320 --> 01:30:11,599
Speaker 2: forty five. I see y'all niggles and the same people.

1775
01:30:12,040 --> 01:30:14,679
Speaker 2: You know they talk about Snoop Dogg. You will still

1776
01:30:14,800 --> 01:30:16,960
Speaker 2: pop some gin and juice. You will still rock that

1777
01:30:17,040 --> 01:30:18,879
Speaker 2: shit they calling out y'all niggles.

1778
01:30:19,760 --> 01:30:21,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's that's what happens.

1779
01:30:22,040 --> 01:30:26,800
Speaker 1: Like that's at least so I like there's something about

1780
01:30:26,840 --> 01:30:31,880
Speaker 1: that that is deeply ironic. It's just like it's because

1781
01:30:31,920 --> 01:30:34,400
Speaker 1: they said, yeah, I don't care, like A Seasons already

1782
01:30:34,439 --> 01:30:37,479
Speaker 1: cared too much. He's wanted to explain himself and he

1783
01:30:37,600 --> 01:30:40,280
Speaker 1: was trying to hey listen and because like I said,

1784
01:30:40,360 --> 01:30:44,160
Speaker 1: we don't have we don't have any level of nuance online.

1785
01:30:44,200 --> 01:30:46,719
Speaker 1: So it's gotta be death penalty for everybody. It can't

1786
01:30:46,760 --> 01:30:50,400
Speaker 1: be asease Like, you know that was fucked up. Do

1787
01:30:50,479 --> 01:30:53,760
Speaker 1: you understand how you fucked up? Okay? Cool, were moving on,

1788
01:30:54,479 --> 01:30:57,560
Speaker 1: You're doing TV shows, you're doing stand up and we

1789
01:30:57,840 --> 01:30:59,880
Speaker 1: and you admitted you fucked up. And you wrote this

1790
01:31:00,200 --> 01:31:04,160
Speaker 1: beautiful thing about it. And the woman that was involved said, hey,

1791
01:31:04,640 --> 01:31:07,160
Speaker 1: he's not a bad guy. It's just kind of a misunderstanding.

1792
01:31:07,160 --> 01:31:09,599
Speaker 1: And I'm putting this out there not because I want

1793
01:31:09,640 --> 01:31:11,800
Speaker 1: to see him destroy It didn't matter. None of that matter.

1794
01:31:12,520 --> 01:31:14,720
Speaker 1: We only have the nuclear option when it comes to

1795
01:31:14,760 --> 01:31:19,040
Speaker 1: these people. And so it was funny seeing that because

1796
01:31:19,080 --> 01:31:22,439
Speaker 1: he cared, he was the one that really had to

1797
01:31:22,520 --> 01:31:26,479
Speaker 1: go away, stepped away from all his projects just now

1798
01:31:26,640 --> 01:31:28,800
Speaker 1: two three years later, trying to I think he just

1799
01:31:28,840 --> 01:31:31,519
Speaker 1: put out his first stand up special since all that

1800
01:31:31,560 --> 01:31:35,040
Speaker 1: shit happened and stuff. And it's kind of like, oh,

1801
01:31:35,320 --> 01:31:39,679
Speaker 1: because you gave a fuck, because these other people would

1802
01:31:39,720 --> 01:31:41,760
Speaker 1: have been out Luis c K would have been torn

1803
01:31:41,800 --> 01:31:43,519
Speaker 1: right now and would have been like, fuck all these people.

1804
01:31:43,920 --> 01:31:46,280
Speaker 1: I'm over here now with the people that say fuck cancel.

1805
01:31:46,000 --> 01:31:49,599
Speaker 2: Culture, yep, and not caring. And the thing is, human

1806
01:31:49,640 --> 01:31:54,599
Speaker 2: beings are complicated creatures. We all enjoyed shit from people

1807
01:31:54,680 --> 01:31:57,080
Speaker 2: that have done fucked up and foul shit in their

1808
01:31:57,160 --> 01:32:01,200
Speaker 2: lives public in propably, and we all draw our lines

1809
01:32:01,320 --> 01:32:04,560
Speaker 2: at different places, you know. And I understand that I

1810
01:32:04,720 --> 01:32:08,040
Speaker 2: am complex when it comes to certain things. A lot

1811
01:32:08,120 --> 01:32:12,200
Speaker 2: of particularly the Internet makes people, makes people sound like

1812
01:32:13,520 --> 01:32:17,280
Speaker 2: if you enjoy some shit that somebody does, you endoyce everything,

1813
01:32:17,560 --> 01:32:21,280
Speaker 2: you endorse everything they do, and that's a false statement. Yeah.

1814
01:32:21,479 --> 01:32:25,439
Speaker 1: So it's interesting, man, because, like I think, it's in

1815
01:32:25,560 --> 01:32:27,600
Speaker 1: a I don't know how to put it, but in

1816
01:32:27,680 --> 01:32:31,560
Speaker 1: a way, it's refreshingly honest to see authentic people be

1817
01:32:31,680 --> 01:32:34,519
Speaker 1: authentic and go, I'm just a piece of shit and

1818
01:32:34,640 --> 01:32:37,200
Speaker 1: y'all happen to like me. I don't owe you shit,

1819
01:32:37,360 --> 01:32:40,240
Speaker 1: and you can be mad about it because it feels

1820
01:32:40,280 --> 01:32:42,720
Speaker 1: more honest than the phony shit that people do all

1821
01:32:42,760 --> 01:32:45,960
Speaker 1: the time and keep getting quote unquote exposed because they're

1822
01:32:46,000 --> 01:32:49,280
Speaker 1: really just humans and they're just saying the things they

1823
01:32:49,360 --> 01:32:51,840
Speaker 1: think they should say because they don't want to get

1824
01:32:51,880 --> 01:32:55,880
Speaker 1: in trouble quote unquote. And I think even if if

1825
01:32:55,960 --> 01:32:59,040
Speaker 1: people were being honest with themselves as fans, you actually

1826
01:32:59,120 --> 01:33:02,040
Speaker 1: don't like that person. That's why you call so many

1827
01:33:02,040 --> 01:33:05,120
Speaker 1: people phony and fake and this and that and the other,

1828
01:33:05,160 --> 01:33:08,880
Speaker 1: because you can't believe them. You, Like, I know, deep down,

1829
01:33:09,040 --> 01:33:10,439
Speaker 1: how could anyone feel this way?

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01:33:11,160 --> 01:33:11,320
Speaker 6: You know?

1831
01:33:11,640 --> 01:33:14,400
Speaker 1: And like I said, maybe it's because my age and

1832
01:33:14,439 --> 01:33:17,880
Speaker 1: the way we grew up, but I do like a

1833
01:33:18,040 --> 01:33:22,320
Speaker 1: person that's like, this is me. So if you don't

1834
01:33:22,439 --> 01:33:24,080
Speaker 1: like me, at least you know you don't like me.

1835
01:33:24,920 --> 01:33:26,560
Speaker 1: If you like me at least you know you do

1836
01:33:26,880 --> 01:33:29,960
Speaker 1: like me. But what you don't have is my representative

1837
01:33:30,000 --> 01:33:32,720
Speaker 1: out here fake and the font right, and then you

1838
01:33:32,880 --> 01:33:35,040
Speaker 1: having to decipher like when I'm being real and when

1839
01:33:35,040 --> 01:33:37,640
Speaker 1: I'm not. I fuck with that and you know it's

1840
01:33:37,680 --> 01:33:41,040
Speaker 1: something that Yeah, it's something that we strive to create

1841
01:33:41,120 --> 01:33:41,639
Speaker 1: with this show.

1842
01:33:42,400 --> 01:33:43,599
Speaker 3: So like, if you like our.

1843
01:33:43,600 --> 01:33:45,360
Speaker 1: Stances and you like our point of view and you

1844
01:33:45,520 --> 01:33:48,680
Speaker 1: like the jokes and stuff, then that's us. But we

1845
01:33:48,760 --> 01:33:51,519
Speaker 1: didn't run this though a fucking focused test group. We didn't.

1846
01:33:52,120 --> 01:33:53,960
Speaker 1: We weren't sitting up here being like okay, but this

1847
01:33:54,120 --> 01:33:56,360
Speaker 1: next segment kind of contradicts where we just talked and

1848
01:33:56,439 --> 01:34:01,000
Speaker 1: we just are like we're human. You listen, you understand that.

1849
01:34:01,960 --> 01:34:04,000
Speaker 2: And if you don't like us, you're just don't guess what.

1850
01:34:04,080 --> 01:34:04,920
Speaker 2: We'll be just fine.

1851
01:34:05,120 --> 01:34:07,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we didn't. We don't wake up trying to

1852
01:34:07,960 --> 01:34:10,280
Speaker 1: like piss people off, you know, that's not the purpose.

1853
01:34:10,600 --> 01:34:14,160
Speaker 1: But also but mostly because that wouldn't be authentic, that's

1854
01:34:14,240 --> 01:34:17,080
Speaker 1: not necessarily like, mostly because that's just not who we are.

1855
01:34:17,200 --> 01:34:18,080
Speaker 1: There's some people that are.

1856
01:34:18,120 --> 01:34:20,519
Speaker 2: Like that anyway, Yes, they wake up. How can I

1857
01:34:20,640 --> 01:34:22,160
Speaker 2: make somebody bad today? That's their gym.

1858
01:34:22,360 --> 01:34:27,400
Speaker 1: Speaking of which, Spotify said they finally spoke out on

1859
01:34:27,479 --> 01:34:30,400
Speaker 1: Joe Rogan and they said they won't censor, but we

1860
01:34:30,479 --> 01:34:34,200
Speaker 1: do have rules, so they plan to start putting content

1861
01:34:34,320 --> 01:34:36,600
Speaker 1: warnings before podcast.

1862
01:34:38,240 --> 01:34:38,559
Speaker 2: Mkay.

1863
01:34:43,520 --> 01:34:45,720
Speaker 1: Megan and Harry were the ones that got in the

1864
01:34:45,800 --> 01:34:48,200
Speaker 1: really comment it sounds like because you know, they got

1865
01:34:48,280 --> 01:34:50,519
Speaker 1: a twenty five million dollar deal with Spotify, so they

1866
01:34:50,600 --> 01:34:53,720
Speaker 1: reached out to express concerns about Joe Ruggins misinformation on

1867
01:34:53,800 --> 01:34:54,360
Speaker 1: this podcast.

1868
01:34:54,520 --> 01:34:57,040
Speaker 2: Come on, you don't want the Prince and princess to

1869
01:34:57,160 --> 01:34:58,760
Speaker 2: be like, hey, what were we talking about over here?

1870
01:34:58,920 --> 01:35:00,760
Speaker 1: They pay him one hundred million, they pay them twenty

1871
01:35:00,800 --> 01:35:05,160
Speaker 1: five though. Don't get it twisted right. And also because

1872
01:35:05,800 --> 01:35:08,719
Speaker 1: Spotify is losing some of the music, Neil Young, Joni Mitchell,

1873
01:35:08,800 --> 01:35:15,519
Speaker 1: Bruce Springsteen, guitarist Nils Lofgren have all take their music off.

1874
01:35:17,320 --> 01:35:19,960
Speaker 1: Brene Brown said she's pausing her channel, and The Food

1875
01:35:20,000 --> 01:35:22,560
Speaker 1: Fighter's Dave Girl is also rumored to be leaving the platform.

1876
01:35:23,040 --> 01:35:24,800
Speaker 1: It's a lot of rumors like that, though we don't

1877
01:35:24,840 --> 01:35:25,479
Speaker 1: know for sure.

1878
01:35:25,560 --> 01:35:30,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, And also they were saying that it

1879
01:35:30,320 --> 01:35:33,720
Speaker 2: was they looked at the quarter numbers and like some

1880
01:35:33,880 --> 01:35:36,679
Speaker 2: of the Netflix, the world is only but so big,

1881
01:35:37,120 --> 01:35:40,800
Speaker 2: so you know, y'all, basically you have capped out, so

1882
01:35:41,000 --> 01:35:45,599
Speaker 2: numbers will actually start plateauing the falling because you can

1883
01:35:45,680 --> 01:35:47,600
Speaker 2: only get so many people. So they were sending some

1884
01:35:47,600 --> 01:35:49,320
Speaker 2: of the numbers were going down for subscribers.

1885
01:35:49,360 --> 01:35:52,600
Speaker 3: Anyway, it's becoming clear to me.

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01:35:53,040 --> 01:35:54,840
Speaker 1: It's become clear to me that we have abligation to

1887
01:35:54,960 --> 01:35:58,759
Speaker 1: do more to provide balance and access to wildly accepted

1888
01:35:59,360 --> 01:36:03,639
Speaker 1: information from medical scientific communities guiding us through the unprecedented time.

1889
01:36:03,840 --> 01:36:07,400
Speaker 1: Spotify chief executive Daniel x in the online statement, these

1890
01:36:07,479 --> 01:36:13,040
Speaker 1: issues are incredibly complex, so they're gonna put a content

1891
01:36:13,120 --> 01:36:17,519
Speaker 1: advisory to all podcasts episodes that discuss COVID. This advisory

1892
01:36:17,560 --> 01:36:20,720
Speaker 1: will direct listeners to our dedicated COVID nineteen hub, a

1893
01:36:20,840 --> 01:36:24,360
Speaker 1: resource that provides easy access to data driven facts, up

1894
01:36:24,400 --> 01:36:28,040
Speaker 1: to day information as shared by scientists, physicians, academics, and

1895
01:36:28,080 --> 01:36:30,160
Speaker 1: public health authorities around the world, as well as links

1896
01:36:30,200 --> 01:36:33,439
Speaker 1: to trusted sources. This new effort to combat misinformation will

1897
01:36:33,520 --> 01:36:35,960
Speaker 1: roll out to countries around the world in the coming days.

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01:36:36,280 --> 01:36:38,360
Speaker 1: To our knowledge is content advisors, the first of us

1899
01:36:38,400 --> 01:36:43,120
Speaker 1: come by major podcast platform. They're also exploring ways to

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01:36:43,160 --> 01:36:45,960
Speaker 1: promote his platform rules so that content creators better understand

1901
01:36:46,000 --> 01:36:51,679
Speaker 1: the expectations. Yeah, I think when you paid Joe Rogan

1902
01:36:51,720 --> 01:36:54,160
Speaker 1: one hundred million dollars for what he was already doing,

1903
01:36:55,400 --> 01:36:59,120
Speaker 1: the expectations are that I'm gonna be doing what the

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01:36:59,160 --> 01:36:59,880
Speaker 1: fuck I was already.

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01:37:01,560 --> 01:37:04,160
Speaker 2: Mm hm, y'all just gonna smack a parental vibe, parental

1906
01:37:04,240 --> 01:37:06,240
Speaker 2: advisor me over it. That's all that's all this is

1907
01:37:06,320 --> 01:37:06,519
Speaker 2: to me.

1908
01:37:07,320 --> 01:37:07,559
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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01:37:08,160 --> 01:37:10,679
Speaker 2: So you know, it's like, you know what you're getting into.

1910
01:37:11,240 --> 01:37:14,880
Speaker 2: You're complaining, Well, we told you basically, that's all they're saying.

1911
01:37:16,200 --> 01:37:18,080
Speaker 1: So and I think that's about all it's gonna be done.

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01:37:18,280 --> 01:37:22,080
Speaker 3: You know, it's too much money and last story is

1913
01:37:22,120 --> 01:37:23,040
Speaker 3: getting late here, we're.

1914
01:37:22,880 --> 01:37:25,719
Speaker 1: Gonna wrap up. I know, y'all need to go to bed. Okay,

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01:37:27,200 --> 01:37:29,040
Speaker 1: I'll see you chatroom hanging in there.

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01:37:28,960 --> 01:37:30,280
Speaker 2: With us, ain't they hanging tight?

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01:37:30,520 --> 01:37:33,240
Speaker 1: Forty five people late on a Sunday night having a

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01:37:33,280 --> 01:37:38,639
Speaker 1: good time. A one. So actually shouldn't end on the story.

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01:37:38,640 --> 01:37:40,960
Speaker 1: It's a sad story. But there was a woman who

1920
01:37:41,160 --> 01:37:43,479
Speaker 1: jumped from a New York City high rise and She's

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Speaker 1: been identified as Miss USA twenty nineteen chess league christ

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01:37:48,800 --> 01:37:53,000
Speaker 1: Christian mm hmm, yeah, a beautiful black woman. So, you

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01:37:53,080 --> 01:37:55,120
Speaker 1: know a lot of people have been sharing this story

1924
01:37:55,200 --> 01:37:58,120
Speaker 1: on social media and stuff she did. She did, she

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01:37:58,240 --> 01:38:01,680
Speaker 1: left a note, but didn't why she did it. We

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01:38:01,840 --> 01:38:04,880
Speaker 1: know she struggled with somewhat of her mental health because

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01:38:04,960 --> 01:38:07,960
Speaker 1: she posted about it a year ago, talking about, you know,

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Speaker 1: what she was doing to make through the pandemic and

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Speaker 1: all this stuff. The main thing I wanted to point

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Speaker 1: out here was there's a lot of that check on

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Speaker 1: your strong friends. There's a lot of uh, you know,

1932
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Speaker 1: every time someone dies by suicide, there's always like this.

1933
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Speaker 1: We could have prevented this if we would have been

1934
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Speaker 1: different to each other, and if we would have cared

1935
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Speaker 1: to have more empathy and all that stuff. Right, So

1936
01:38:36,320 --> 01:38:38,240
Speaker 1: maybe this is a good one to end on. So

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Speaker 1: here's my question to you, as an audience member, as

1938
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Speaker 1: a person listening to the sound of my voice, have

1939
01:38:47,120 --> 01:38:51,559
Speaker 1: you been and I don't mean checking on your strong

1940
01:38:51,600 --> 01:38:55,479
Speaker 1: friends shit, I think that's bullshit. I mean, have you

1941
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Speaker 1: been treating people with that that gentleness that we all

1942
01:39:01,920 --> 01:39:06,200
Speaker 1: need right now, the same gentleness you would love to

1943
01:39:06,360 --> 01:39:09,840
Speaker 1: have when you fuck up, not just in the good

1944
01:39:09,920 --> 01:39:12,000
Speaker 1: days when you're a good person and we all get

1945
01:39:12,040 --> 01:39:14,639
Speaker 1: gold stars, but in the days when you do make

1946
01:39:14,720 --> 01:39:17,880
Speaker 1: that mistake, in the days when you do share that

1947
01:39:18,040 --> 01:39:20,160
Speaker 1: thing and it don't go the way you thought.

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Speaker 5: You know.

1949
01:39:21,400 --> 01:39:23,240
Speaker 1: One of the things I thought was interesting about that

1950
01:39:23,400 --> 01:39:27,400
Speaker 1: lady who did the recruiting you that hr thing that

1951
01:39:27,600 --> 01:39:33,160
Speaker 1: was so stupid, was a lot of anger was directed

1952
01:39:33,200 --> 01:39:36,240
Speaker 1: at the fact that we were correcting her and she

1953
01:39:36,400 --> 01:39:40,120
Speaker 1: didn't want to hear it. And I'm like, have you

1954
01:39:40,200 --> 01:39:42,439
Speaker 1: ever had a thousand people try to correct you?

1955
01:39:43,120 --> 01:39:46,400
Speaker 2: Come on, people don't understand. If you've never been on

1956
01:39:46,479 --> 01:39:49,320
Speaker 2: the receiving end of that, you cannot comprehend it the

1957
01:39:49,439 --> 01:39:52,320
Speaker 2: brain and you're just not made for that.

1958
01:39:52,600 --> 01:39:54,720
Speaker 1: And not just they want you to get it, you

1959
01:39:54,840 --> 01:39:58,759
Speaker 1: have to get it immediately from strangers on the internet

1960
01:39:58,840 --> 01:40:01,560
Speaker 1: who you shared this shit with first place, right, so

1961
01:40:02,240 --> 01:40:04,320
Speaker 1: you and and actually you didn't even share it with

1962
01:40:04,439 --> 01:40:06,240
Speaker 1: all of them, like it went viral. So there's a

1963
01:40:06,280 --> 01:40:09,639
Speaker 1: bunch of people you even less know than normal, right,

1964
01:40:10,360 --> 01:40:12,320
Speaker 1: And they're not all being kind, and they're not all

1965
01:40:12,400 --> 01:40:14,439
Speaker 1: being fortunate. Some of them are gonna be mocking you.

1966
01:40:14,520 --> 01:40:19,360
Speaker 1: Some are then yeah, Yeah, some of them call you

1967
01:40:19,439 --> 01:40:22,720
Speaker 1: out your name. It's not gonna necessarily respectful. Some of

1968
01:40:22,760 --> 01:40:25,040
Speaker 1: them are gonna you know, you look that they're trying

1969
01:40:25,080 --> 01:40:28,679
Speaker 1: to get your fired. It's not. It escalates quickly. People

1970
01:40:28,680 --> 01:40:32,160
Speaker 1: are using language of escalation and abuse and tying you

1971
01:40:32,280 --> 01:40:35,760
Speaker 1: the systemic injustice in a way that you as an

1972
01:40:35,840 --> 01:40:40,519
Speaker 1: individual cannot You cannot be responsible for all of it

1973
01:40:40,640 --> 01:40:44,519
Speaker 1: and at the same time you cannot be affected by

1974
01:40:44,560 --> 01:40:47,360
Speaker 1: all of it. Right, So I say all that to say,

1975
01:40:47,520 --> 01:40:52,840
Speaker 1: like when you when I see something like this, I

1976
01:40:52,880 --> 01:40:55,920
Speaker 1: think about people's like mental health and the things that

1977
01:40:56,040 --> 01:41:00,200
Speaker 1: affect them, and how social media affects us are and

1978
01:41:00,360 --> 01:41:08,880
Speaker 1: how we're connected. But it's this outpouring of empathy and

1979
01:41:09,040 --> 01:41:14,000
Speaker 1: regret that only occurs when the body is cold and

1980
01:41:15,760 --> 01:41:20,640
Speaker 1: people don't see any level of connection to you know,

1981
01:41:21,160 --> 01:41:24,080
Speaker 1: the fact that we've held a grudge for Justin Timberlate

1982
01:41:24,200 --> 01:41:26,880
Speaker 1: for fifteen years that somebody never asked us to have

1983
01:41:27,600 --> 01:41:32,599
Speaker 1: and we were adding him on Twitter and he could

1984
01:41:32,600 --> 01:41:35,479
Speaker 1: say good morning, it was like fuck you. H Like

1985
01:41:37,960 --> 01:41:41,040
Speaker 1: if he were to harm himself somehow, if he were

1986
01:41:41,080 --> 01:41:45,640
Speaker 1: to take his own life, the narrative would change. And

1987
01:41:45,800 --> 01:41:48,320
Speaker 1: it feels like a lot of people holding knives behind

1988
01:41:48,360 --> 01:41:52,120
Speaker 1: their backs when someone dies and goes who did this? Now,

1989
01:41:52,160 --> 01:41:55,040
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that's what happened to this lady or

1990
01:41:55,120 --> 01:42:00,120
Speaker 1: this woman, but it does make me think about the

1991
01:42:00,200 --> 01:42:04,400
Speaker 1: connections we have to each other. And I don't know,

1992
01:42:04,520 --> 01:42:06,280
Speaker 1: I can't help but feel like that shit is fake

1993
01:42:06,520 --> 01:42:12,800
Speaker 1: when whenever people do this hindsight, like, guys, we all

1994
01:42:12,920 --> 01:42:14,880
Speaker 1: struggle and we need to en It's like, but dude,

1995
01:42:15,800 --> 01:42:18,680
Speaker 1: you I've been on the side of like, yo, this,

1996
01:42:19,000 --> 01:42:22,200
Speaker 1: this person could be going through some things. Maybe you know,

1997
01:42:23,040 --> 01:42:26,519
Speaker 1: everybody should lighten up a little bit. No, that's bad,

1998
01:42:26,680 --> 01:42:29,080
Speaker 1: that's the wrong thing to do. Keep that to your

1999
01:42:29,160 --> 01:42:32,439
Speaker 1: motherfucking self. We'm over here, angry, we piling on, and

2000
01:42:32,560 --> 01:42:34,600
Speaker 1: you in the way, Rod, shut the fuck up with

2001
01:42:34,600 --> 01:42:35,679
Speaker 1: all that empathy bullshit.

2002
01:42:36,040 --> 01:42:37,719
Speaker 2: We don't want to hear it. You are not allowed

2003
01:42:37,760 --> 01:42:41,360
Speaker 2: to expressing the pictures and the torches, right, And so.

2004
01:42:41,439 --> 01:42:43,720
Speaker 1: I've been on that, you know, to the point where

2005
01:42:43,720 --> 01:42:45,840
Speaker 1: I really stop sharing. I go to the podcast to share.

2006
01:42:45,880 --> 01:42:49,120
Speaker 1: I don't share even in the articles I shared on

2007
01:42:49,280 --> 01:42:53,559
Speaker 1: my page and stuff. I let everyone else fight yeah comments, yeah,

2008
01:42:53,600 --> 01:42:56,679
Speaker 1: because I because I don't one, I don't necessarily share

2009
01:42:56,720 --> 01:42:58,640
Speaker 1: things because I already feel away. Sometimes I don't know

2010
01:42:58,680 --> 01:42:59,120
Speaker 1: how to feel.

2011
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Speaker 3: But then also like.

2012
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Speaker 1: I've seen the reaction, and I'm always too long, I'm

2013
01:43:06,920 --> 01:43:14,760
Speaker 1: always uh. I always feel people sound the most like

2014
01:43:16,160 --> 01:43:19,639
Speaker 1: how I authentically feel after a tragedy like this happens,

2015
01:43:20,280 --> 01:43:23,920
Speaker 1: that's the most I feel like, Okay, maybe y'all get it,

2016
01:43:25,400 --> 01:43:28,160
Speaker 1: but it's like they wake up the next day and

2017
01:43:28,200 --> 01:43:31,599
Speaker 1: they forgot, or it's like the next person doesn't count,

2018
01:43:31,800 --> 01:43:35,240
Speaker 1: like I don't know, it's just I don't know. There's something.

2019
01:43:36,680 --> 01:43:40,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's something to it that just you know, even

2020
01:43:40,160 --> 01:43:40,639
Speaker 3: the thing.

2021
01:43:40,560 --> 01:43:44,160
Speaker 1: Where like because this used to fool me a lot,

2022
01:43:44,320 --> 01:43:47,320
Speaker 1: but but now I see right through the ship and

2023
01:43:50,120 --> 01:43:54,240
Speaker 1: and and and I understand it now. But it's this

2024
01:43:54,439 --> 01:43:57,560
Speaker 1: narcissism that masquerades is empathy. And what I mean by that,

2025
01:43:57,720 --> 01:44:03,160
Speaker 1: if you're a person that can only feel empathy when

2026
01:44:03,240 --> 01:44:08,559
Speaker 1: the person looks like a mirror, that's not really empathy.

2027
01:44:08,640 --> 01:44:14,160
Speaker 1: That's narcissism. That's that's you saying you feel, that's you

2028
01:44:14,360 --> 01:44:16,880
Speaker 1: wanting that for yourself, not really you know. That's like

2029
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Speaker 1: me going, man, y'all, I just can't stop thinking about

2030
01:44:22,400 --> 01:44:24,760
Speaker 1: how fucked up it is that Bill Cotton is in jail.

2031
01:44:25,000 --> 01:44:28,560
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he shouldn't. I'm not saying he What

2032
01:44:28,680 --> 01:44:30,719
Speaker 1: I'm saying is just he in jail, and i feel

2033
01:44:30,800 --> 01:44:32,720
Speaker 1: bad for him as a black man, and I'm like,

2034
01:44:33,600 --> 01:44:37,760
Speaker 1: that's more like narcissism. That's not really like, that's not

2035
01:44:37,920 --> 01:44:40,880
Speaker 1: because you wouldn't have that for like Harvey Weinstein, right,

2036
01:44:41,000 --> 01:44:44,080
Speaker 1: because he ain't a black man and you you are,

2037
01:44:44,320 --> 01:44:46,439
Speaker 1: so all of a sudden, it's like, fuck that nigga,

2038
01:44:46,439 --> 01:44:49,799
Speaker 1: he can go to jail, right. Empathy is is different,

2039
01:44:50,120 --> 01:44:52,479
Speaker 1: and it kind of sucks. It's not always good. It's

2040
01:44:53,240 --> 01:44:55,640
Speaker 1: I feel bad for anybody going to jail. And then

2041
01:44:55,640 --> 01:44:59,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, yeah, but some niggas gotta go, you know,

2042
01:45:00,560 --> 01:45:03,120
Speaker 1: you know, but I'm gonna feel bad. I'm like, it

2043
01:45:03,200 --> 01:45:05,599
Speaker 1: don't make me happy to see him go. But it's like, nigga,

2044
01:45:05,600 --> 01:45:09,640
Speaker 1: you had to go, right. But that's the closest that

2045
01:45:09,760 --> 01:45:12,720
Speaker 1: people get to kind of talking saying talking in the

2046
01:45:12,800 --> 01:45:15,120
Speaker 1: language I feel on the inside, Like I said, and

2047
01:45:15,160 --> 01:45:18,240
Speaker 1: I'm excusing the checking your strong friendship because that's that's

2048
01:45:18,280 --> 01:45:21,640
Speaker 1: some other bullshit that's not even really that that's just

2049
01:45:21,720 --> 01:45:24,120
Speaker 1: coming from a place of people wanting to blame folks,

2050
01:45:24,160 --> 01:45:26,760
Speaker 1: and that's that's not really cool at all. When someone

2051
01:45:27,360 --> 01:45:31,320
Speaker 1: text on life or dies by suicide, that's not cool

2052
01:45:31,360 --> 01:45:33,600
Speaker 1: that all to blame all the people around them, Like

2053
01:45:33,720 --> 01:45:36,439
Speaker 1: y'all don't know people's brain chemistry, mental health history, any

2054
01:45:36,439 --> 01:45:39,680
Speaker 1: of that shit. But yeah, it just made me think

2055
01:45:39,720 --> 01:45:42,720
Speaker 1: about that, Like we are all impacting on each other,

2056
01:45:43,680 --> 01:45:47,800
Speaker 1: imprinting on each other, and the things we do have

2057
01:45:49,000 --> 01:45:53,559
Speaker 1: it affects us. We're social creatures. And I think every

2058
01:45:53,600 --> 01:45:56,360
Speaker 1: time we take a moment to be unkind directly to

2059
01:45:56,479 --> 01:45:58,800
Speaker 1: a person, like not even on some tangential shit like

2060
01:45:59,120 --> 01:46:02,080
Speaker 1: I'm not rediculous. I think if I know ray J

2061
01:46:02,280 --> 01:46:04,240
Speaker 1: does something ridiculous and you don't be like this nigga coon,

2062
01:46:04,320 --> 01:46:07,080
Speaker 1: and that's fine, that's like who can. But I think

2063
01:46:07,080 --> 01:46:09,840
Speaker 1: it's different than like seeking our ray J to tell

2064
01:46:09,920 --> 01:46:13,000
Speaker 1: him kill yourself. Nigga, you was taking a picture with Trump.

2065
01:46:13,040 --> 01:46:16,479
Speaker 1: I think that's a different thing. And I think even

2066
01:46:16,600 --> 01:46:20,760
Speaker 1: those people, when the moment happens that something bad or

2067
01:46:20,800 --> 01:46:24,560
Speaker 1: tragic happens, pulls this fake empathy bullshit. And it's so

2068
01:46:24,840 --> 01:46:29,200
Speaker 1: fake because you because if you believed it, you you

2069
01:46:29,400 --> 01:46:33,080
Speaker 1: carry yourself that way, you be a little more gentful general,

2070
01:46:33,200 --> 01:46:36,639
Speaker 1: or at least a little more thoughtful. You'd be like, yeah,

2071
01:46:36,720 --> 01:46:39,280
Speaker 1: I can see how this. You know, it's people talking

2072
01:46:39,320 --> 01:46:41,680
Speaker 1: bad about Chad with Boseman's weight and his body, and

2073
01:46:41,760 --> 01:46:44,160
Speaker 1: then he dies and they go, we need to be

2074
01:46:44,280 --> 01:46:47,200
Speaker 1: careful how we talk about people because you never know.

2075
01:46:47,800 --> 01:46:50,160
Speaker 1: And then some some other celebrity has something similar and

2076
01:46:50,200 --> 01:46:53,639
Speaker 1: you see, oh this this nigga looked like he died,

2077
01:46:53,680 --> 01:46:57,040
Speaker 1: he's sick. This nigga eat some food. Well look at

2078
01:46:57,080 --> 01:46:59,920
Speaker 1: it like you know, like you see it and you're like, oh,

2079
01:47:00,160 --> 01:47:04,080
Speaker 1: so you so you didn't learn shit? Allren't. But those

2080
01:47:04,080 --> 01:47:05,800
Speaker 1: people will never be on the Summer Jam screen. So

2081
01:47:05,840 --> 01:47:07,040
Speaker 1: I guess it's just how they operate.

2082
01:47:07,320 --> 01:47:07,679
Speaker 2: Agreed.

2083
01:47:08,560 --> 01:47:10,160
Speaker 3: All right, y'all that's it for this episode.

2084
01:47:10,920 --> 01:47:13,000
Speaker 1: Just gonna end it. There something think about, you know,

2085
01:47:13,160 --> 01:47:16,200
Speaker 1: something I was thinking about all day and once again

2086
01:47:16,320 --> 01:47:20,679
Speaker 1: not saying this woman is directly related to those things,

2087
01:47:20,760 --> 01:47:22,519
Speaker 1: but just it made these are what it made me

2088
01:47:22,640 --> 01:47:25,880
Speaker 1: think about. So don't feel like I'm I'm not blaming

2089
01:47:25,920 --> 01:47:28,639
Speaker 1: anybody for this woman's death. We don't even know what happened.

2090
01:47:28,640 --> 01:47:31,519
Speaker 1: And like I said, no one understands people's brain chemistry.

2091
01:47:32,160 --> 01:47:34,439
Speaker 1: But it did make me think, like, how many people

2092
01:47:34,479 --> 01:47:39,000
Speaker 1: are we impacting with our words when we when we

2093
01:47:39,160 --> 01:47:40,599
Speaker 1: could use a lighter touch.

2094
01:47:41,320 --> 01:47:47,000
Speaker 2: Yes, And maybe it's just me on the outside looking in. Uh,

2095
01:47:48,800 --> 01:47:53,960
Speaker 2: people underestimate how much the pandemic has affected us. We've

2096
01:47:54,000 --> 01:47:56,160
Speaker 2: been in this shit for like two years, pushing you know,

2097
01:47:56,280 --> 01:47:59,200
Speaker 2: pretty soonerly three years we've been in this pandemic, and

2098
01:47:59,479 --> 01:48:02,560
Speaker 2: I've seen people get meaner and meaner. That's just just

2099
01:48:02,720 --> 01:48:05,320
Speaker 2: in general, just bumping into each other, being around each other,

2100
01:48:05,520 --> 01:48:09,080
Speaker 2: just interacting with people and not having the compassion and

2101
01:48:09,120 --> 01:48:12,000
Speaker 2: the understanding that you don't really know what people are

2102
01:48:12,080 --> 01:48:15,519
Speaker 2: dealing with, and a lot of the things they deal with,

2103
01:48:15,680 --> 01:48:18,080
Speaker 2: they just lash out online because for some people that's

2104
01:48:18,120 --> 01:48:20,840
Speaker 2: their only reached it outside world, particularly if they're at

2105
01:48:20,920 --> 01:48:23,360
Speaker 2: home alone and they you know, can't you know, be

2106
01:48:23,479 --> 01:48:24,559
Speaker 2: around family and friends.

2107
01:48:25,120 --> 01:48:27,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's enough people out there that genuinely do

2108
01:48:27,800 --> 01:48:30,439
Speaker 1: terrible shit. Mm hm, Like, I don't think you have

2109
01:48:30,560 --> 01:48:34,240
Speaker 1: to stretch to find people. If you're stretching to make

2110
01:48:34,280 --> 01:48:37,240
Speaker 1: shit fit, you should think about what's going on inside yourself.

2111
01:48:38,040 --> 01:48:40,200
Speaker 1: Think about it for a second, Like why am I

2112
01:48:40,400 --> 01:48:43,280
Speaker 1: here that I can kind of see this person's point,

2113
01:48:43,320 --> 01:48:46,840
Speaker 1: But I've decided they must be evil and a villain

2114
01:48:47,120 --> 01:48:50,800
Speaker 1: because I need that, so you need that. It's James

2115
01:48:50,880 --> 01:48:54,800
Speaker 1: Barwin saying to white people, I'm not a nigga, but

2116
01:48:54,920 --> 01:48:57,200
Speaker 1: you need the question why do you need a nigger?

2117
01:48:58,040 --> 01:49:01,240
Speaker 1: Why do you need that concept? Yeah, to feel good

2118
01:49:01,280 --> 01:49:07,759
Speaker 1: about you? And I think ultimately our need for niggers

2119
01:49:09,120 --> 01:49:12,960
Speaker 1: in our lives somebody to to detegrate.

2120
01:49:15,000 --> 01:49:15,040
Speaker 2: It.

2121
01:49:17,240 --> 01:49:24,200
Speaker 1: It transcends race, gender, or sexual orientation, all that, It

2122
01:49:24,360 --> 01:49:28,320
Speaker 1: transcends everything because something inside of us needs that to

2123
01:49:28,520 --> 01:49:32,479
Speaker 1: feel like we're good. And a lot of times it's

2124
01:49:32,560 --> 01:49:34,160
Speaker 1: not that simple, That's all I'm saying.

2125
01:49:34,200 --> 01:49:34,880
Speaker 3: Sometimes it is.

2126
01:49:35,479 --> 01:49:38,160
Speaker 1: There's plenty of examples where it's that simple. But a

2127
01:49:38,280 --> 01:49:41,400
Speaker 1: lot of times I find people trying to like fit

2128
01:49:41,520 --> 01:49:43,519
Speaker 1: shit into that, and I just know that it's not

2129
01:49:43,760 --> 01:49:46,599
Speaker 1: good for us, man, and none of us is here forever.

2130
01:49:46,760 --> 01:49:51,759
Speaker 1: But you know, don't just check on your strong friends.

2131
01:49:51,840 --> 01:49:56,000
Speaker 1: Matter of fact, don't even check on yourself. You know,

2132
01:49:57,080 --> 01:49:59,280
Speaker 1: like check on yourself. How you act, why are you

2133
01:49:59,360 --> 01:50:02,519
Speaker 1: acting to how why are you acting the way you're acting?

2134
01:50:03,560 --> 01:50:03,720
Speaker 2: Why?

2135
01:50:04,000 --> 01:50:06,599
Speaker 1: You know, why do you need that person to suffer?

2136
01:50:07,080 --> 01:50:10,960
Speaker 1: Why do you need that thing today? Why does the

2137
01:50:11,040 --> 01:50:13,280
Speaker 1: ultimate solution have to be the only solution all the time.

2138
01:50:13,720 --> 01:50:16,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I've come to a conclusion where sometimes I

2139
01:50:16,320 --> 01:50:19,400
Speaker 2: realize I'm not okay, like all tru sidelight, you know,

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Speaker 2: it's times where I am literally not okay, and for

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Speaker 2: various types of things. You know, maybe I know for me,

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Speaker 2: I am an outdoorsy I need the somen type of person.

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Speaker 2: And if I sit in this house too long, I'll

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Speaker 2: I'll just feel my mood change and I'm not as happy,

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Speaker 2: and then I go outside and I'll be fine. But

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Speaker 2: a lot of times people having these feelings and things

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Speaker 2: around them are changing, and they're dealing with various things.

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Speaker 2: They're dealing with stress, and they don't ask themselves what

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Speaker 2: is wrong and why am I feeling like this? Because

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Speaker 2: that right there will for most people, will change your

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Speaker 2: attitude and how you interact with people if you ask

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Speaker 2: myself what's going on with me today?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think people we'd all be served to do that,

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Speaker 1: not just and I'm not just talking to you out

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Speaker 1: all of us. Yes, So you know, I have a

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Speaker 1: friend that you know, I saw I'm kind of acting

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Speaker 1: differently online and like reached out like yo, you you good,

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Speaker 1: you know, and they were like and I'm going through this,

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Speaker 1: and I'm going through that. I'm like, okay, cause it's

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Speaker 1: kind of showing with your behavior. And they were like, well,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm kind of using this to distract myself

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Speaker 1: or whatever. I was like, well, as long as you

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Speaker 1: love no, because I'm not the friend to tell anybody

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Speaker 1: what to do, but I am the friend to be

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Speaker 1: like you good, that's what you're sure you want to

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Speaker 1: do that? All right? Cool if that's what you think.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, it's definitely it's definitely something you know to

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Speaker 1: be aware of. So I hope people are aware of that.

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Speaker 1: All right, y'all, We'll be back soon ish, Like I said,

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Speaker 1: as the schedule allows. We thought about I had a

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Speaker 1: lot on my mind, and it was like, Karen, you

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Speaker 1: mind recording, and she wanted to record, and I thank

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Speaker 1: you for that because I just wanted to kind of

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Speaker 1: talk about these things.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, y'all.

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Speaker 1: Talk to you all later until then. I love you.

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Speaker 2: I love you too. Why