Speaker 1: Misspelling with Tory Spelling and iHeartRadio podcast, Matthew.
Speaker 2: Lawrence, Brian Austin Green, My friend, how are you? Thank
Speaker 2: you so much for doing this? Please?
Speaker 3: Are you kidding?
Speaker 4: So you were the first one that came to mind
Speaker 4: when this came about. I had this idea of, since
Speaker 4: Tory is not feeling great, of doing this this couple
Speaker 4: episodes for and really making it a celebration of Toy
Speaker 4: because she's so loved by the people that know her
Speaker 4: and that have spent time around her. And I know
Speaker 4: you spent so much time around her because our storylines
Speaker 4: were together, and I know that you know, we used
Speaker 4: to imber on a daily basis. I would always have
Speaker 4: people asking me, so, what's Toy like? And how is
Speaker 4: that it's the boss's daughter and all of that, And
Speaker 4: I was always so shocked, and I loved the fact
Speaker 4: that I could genuinely say to people that if you
Speaker 4: didn't know that Toy was the boss's daughter, you would
Speaker 4: never know it by being on set and being around her,
Speaker 4: because it was never it was never a card that
Speaker 4: she played, It was never anything that she flexed. Right,
Speaker 4: how was it for you coming because you came in?
Speaker 4: Was it the first season.
Speaker 3: When no, it was the beginning of the second season yep,
Speaker 3: and just real quickly I got involved. I had never
Speaker 3: seen the show. Okay, the first year I knew about it,
Speaker 3: but I had never seen it. And my agent called
Speaker 3: and said, they want to see you about possibly playing
Speaker 3: the father of one of the people on the show.
Speaker 3: I don't even think I ever told you this, and
Speaker 3: I didn't. I was doing other things. And I kind
Speaker 3: of went, I don't think so, because you remember the
Speaker 3: first year was not that great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for the show. Nobody was, nobody was watching it.
Speaker 2: We were like far from a hit. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And so I said to my agent, I don't know,
Speaker 3: you know, he said, listen, you've never played a father before.
Speaker 2: I think, just go talk to them. It'll be good.
Speaker 3: So I went and I sat with the guys who
Speaker 3: are now some of them my friends, and we talked
Speaker 3: about it was supposed to be one episode and I said,
Speaker 3: whose father would.
Speaker 2: I be playing?
Speaker 3: And they said Brian Austin Green and I said, who
Speaker 3: I'm in? Did you really well, if you you remember this,
Speaker 3: you were how old were you when you did Circus
Speaker 3: of the Stars twelve? Okay that's when we met. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we rehearsed that summer. I walked the high wire. You
Speaker 3: did some easy thing where they flipped you in the air.
Speaker 2: Don't say easy, are you crazy? I did a teterboard
Speaker 2: my friend that I had to wear pink tights. Okay, yes, okay,
Speaker 2: well like sparkles on them. So let's that's even the
Speaker 2: playing field a little bit.
Speaker 3: I'll show you the picture of my costume. Forget about
Speaker 3: the big tights.
Speaker 2: And bad as mine, but okay, go ahead.
Speaker 3: Anyway, I was being sarcastic. That thing you did was insane. Anyway,
Speaker 3: So we spent a few weeks together during rehearsals, and
Speaker 3: I loved you and I got to know your mom.
Speaker 3: It was great. So when they said your father, I
Speaker 3: was like, oh, I'm so in and you don't. You
Speaker 3: don't remember this, and I'll get to Tory in the second.
Speaker 3: You don't remember this. But my first day on the show,
Speaker 3: I walked into the makeup trailer and you were sitting
Speaker 3: in the makeup chair, and you stood up and came
Speaker 3: over and we hugged each other and it was great.
Speaker 3: And I believe you said to me, how old were
Speaker 3: you then? Like second? Seventeen seventeen? Yes, I believe you
Speaker 3: said to me. I said, how are you doing? I
Speaker 3: know you're doing great, and you said, I just closed
Speaker 3: on a house.
Speaker 2: I went, wait, what what? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Anyway, I have very vivid memories of you guys.
Speaker 2: I remember that.
Speaker 4: I don't remember telling you that I closed on a house,
Speaker 4: but I remember that. I remember clearly when you came
Speaker 4: in because I someone had mentioned your name that you
Speaker 4: were coming in to play my dad, and I was
Speaker 4: excited about it because we did get along so well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when we were doing Circus at the Stars.
Speaker 3: Yep, here's the amazing thing you asked about. What was
Speaker 3: it like for me on the show. I had already
Speaker 3: done a lot of work, and to be around the
Speaker 3: group of you, all you guys from that point, and
Speaker 3: then going forward nine years and seeing people don't realize.
Speaker 2: What you are.
Speaker 3: I mean, it was great you were working and getting
Speaker 3: famous and making money, but people never realized. I always
Speaker 3: used to talk about it, all the things that you
Speaker 3: had to go through in dealing with all of that stuff,
Speaker 3: and nobody more so than Tory, as you said, nobody,
Speaker 3: nobody because of.
Speaker 2: Who her dad was.
Speaker 3: And now I'm going to tell you a great story
Speaker 3: about Tory Okay. I loved all of you, well almost
Speaker 3: all of you, but that's another.
Speaker 2: Story, that's another podcast.
Speaker 3: I loved most of you. Anyway. I lived in the
Speaker 3: house at that time. I shared a house, a huge
Speaker 3: house on Mulholland Drive, and the top floor of the
Speaker 3: house it was four floors. It went into the hill
Speaker 3: on Mulholland Drive by the Hollywood sign. I had the
Speaker 3: bottom two floors and a couple that owned the house
Speaker 3: had the top two floors. I had a separate entrance
Speaker 3: and it was amazing. Anyway. The deep Paul Thomas, who
Speaker 3: owned the house, was a director, and for the summer
Speaker 3: they did a house swap with a family from Scotland,
Speaker 3: from Edinburgh, Scotland, and that family came over. This was
Speaker 3: the third or fourth year, I think, so around ninety
Speaker 3: four or five. Only from Scotland came over. And the
Speaker 3: day I came up from my place and walked out
Speaker 3: to the driveway, the family had just gotten there and
Speaker 3: they had a sixteen year old daughter.
Speaker 2: I believe she was Oh boy prime. Okay.
Speaker 3: I didn't say a word, and Paul and Debbie hadn't
Speaker 3: told them anything except somebody was sharing the house with them.
Speaker 3: I walked out into the driveway and this young lady
Speaker 3: lost her mind. The first thing she said was, oh
Speaker 3: my god, Beverly Hills. That's what they called it over there. Yeah, anyway,
Speaker 3: I talked to her and over the next couple days,
Speaker 3: and finally I went upstairs and I said to her,
Speaker 3: are you busy tomorrow? And she said no, I said,
Speaker 3: you're coming to work with me. Well, she didn't sleep
Speaker 3: the whole night. She was waiting for me. At seven
Speaker 3: in the morning. The next morning, we drive to work
Speaker 3: and once again, she gets out of the car with
Speaker 3: me and we go to the makeup trailer and I
Speaker 3: went into the makeup trailer and Tory was in there.
Speaker 3: I get choked up thinking about this. Tory was in there,
Speaker 3: and I introduced her to the makeup people and to Tory,
Speaker 3: and this young girl could barely breathe that she was
Speaker 3: standing in front of Tory and I told her that
Speaker 3: she was from Scotland and they were here. And Tory
Speaker 3: finished and she stood up and she took this girl's
Speaker 3: hand and said, come with me, and they disappeared.
Speaker 2: She took her all over.
Speaker 3: All the sets. She took her into the peach pit
Speaker 3: and Joey was in there, and I forget who else
Speaker 3: she took pictures of this girl with everybody. I didn't
Speaker 3: see them for an hour. I had no idea where
Speaker 3: they were.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 3: Her parents told me that night it was the greatest day.
Speaker 2: Of her life.
Speaker 3: And it was all because of how I get choked up,
Speaker 3: how amazing Tory was, how wonderful and kind, and those
Speaker 3: are the things when I think of Tory, I always
Speaker 3: think of that story right away, and just being with
Speaker 3: her all the time. She was never not that way
Speaker 3: in nine years, none of you were. Tory was never,
Speaker 3: ever one time anything but loving and kind and funny
Speaker 3: and wonderful. Yeah, I just I love all of you,
Speaker 3: But Tori is really something.
Speaker 4: I let me just let me just point out that,
Speaker 4: you know, as you are giving her her well deserved
Speaker 4: flowers for that, you're the one that made that happen.
Speaker 2: So let's just like, let's just sit on that for
Speaker 2: a minute.
Speaker 4: You like, you can say, well, but the reality is
Speaker 4: that girl was at our set because you brought her there.
Speaker 4: So what an amazing story that you shared of toy,
Speaker 4: But what an amazing.
Speaker 2: Story of you.
Speaker 4: And it's one of it's honestly one of the things
Speaker 4: that I loved about our cast, and that experience was
Speaker 4: for as big as it was that story that you're
Speaker 4: telling me of Toy grabbing her hand and walking around
Speaker 4: the set and introducing her to everyone and taking pictures.
Speaker 2: That happened daily.
Speaker 4: We had people that would come to set daily and
Speaker 4: it was it started becoming a challenge for us of
Speaker 4: who from the cast was going to see this person
Speaker 4: first and give them that day and it was make
Speaker 4: a wish kids, It was friends, you know, friends of
Speaker 4: cast members or guest stars, or it was that. It
Speaker 4: was We tried to make everyone feel welcome that was there,
Speaker 4: and Tory was God. She was always at the front
Speaker 4: of that line. She was one of the ones that
Speaker 4: we would battle with to be there first.
Speaker 2: So it was a great story.
Speaker 4: It was a great story, amazing We loved working with you.
Speaker 4: I'm so glad that the job with you went from
Speaker 4: one episode to nine years because we had this amazing
Speaker 4: family and you were absolutely a part of it. And
Speaker 4: I love you, my friend, and thank you so much
Speaker 4: for coming in and sharing that about Toy. This is
Speaker 4: again like I really wanted this, this show to be
Speaker 4: this really fun look back from people that knew Tori
Speaker 4: and loved her for fans. I think I think fans
Speaker 4: should know what amazing human being you're a fan of.
Speaker 3: Well, what what as you said about me? The same
Speaker 3: goes back to you, pl because this is exactly why
Speaker 3: I love you the most, not only what you did
Speaker 3: for my friend Sarah, who's the biggest nine O two
Speaker 3: one Oh fan, Hi Sarah, Hi Sarah birthday, and that
Speaker 3: that meant more than anything in the world. I heard
Speaker 3: that you did a twenty second video. But here's the
Speaker 3: amazing thing before I go, when we think that was
Speaker 3: nineteen ninety one, ninety two, maybe was my first day
Speaker 3: on the show, So that is thirty four years ago.
Speaker 2: And here you and I are. So I'm still quick here.
Speaker 3: Oh you have no idea, But thirty four years later,
Speaker 3: you and I are looking at each other and talking
Speaker 3: about this. It is the best part of my life
Speaker 3: is the people that I worked with and loved and
Speaker 3: know and still know. And I love you more than
Speaker 3: words could say, Brian, and.
Speaker 2: I mean I love you as well. Matthew, Thank you, Okay,
Speaker 2: I'll see you soon.
Speaker 3: I love you, Tori.
Speaker 5: Darren Martin, how are you good doing?
Speaker 2: Dude?
Speaker 4: Where are you in the in the kitchen setup of
Speaker 4: your your nine o two one oh thing or is
Speaker 4: that your proper room.
Speaker 5: Oh this is just like the home office that's been
Speaker 5: converted into the nine o two one oh museum.
Speaker 2: Dude, that's so crazy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, look at young me.
Speaker 2: Right behind you there over your shoe. So for people
Speaker 2: that don't know.
Speaker 4: Darren Martin, you are the nine o two one bro.
Speaker 4: You're the keeper of the code. I I think I I.
Speaker 2: Think you're the quintessential.
Speaker 4: All knowing ambassador of nine two one oh, Like you
Speaker 4: have truly not only embraced it, but you now send
Speaker 4: me photos all the time of things that you find
Speaker 4: on eBay exactly.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm hoping the collection.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're like, dude, check out this picture. This has
Speaker 2: never been released before. Yeah, that's it's crazy. It's crazy.
Speaker 2: So how how is it for you being on this?
Speaker 4: You were you were one of the first people that
Speaker 4: I thought of when it was like, hey, we want
Speaker 4: to do this like fun celebration of Tori. I was like, Oh,
Speaker 4: Darren's got to be gotta be on here.
Speaker 2: For for sure.
Speaker 4: I mean, this is you. You already you were on
Speaker 4: the reboot. You flew to Vancouver and did that and
Speaker 4: now you are on Misspelling on her podcast talking to
Speaker 4: all sorts of nonsense about her. So tell me give
Speaker 4: us a little backstory on how it was that you
Speaker 4: first got into nine on two and Oh.
Speaker 5: Okay, it's funny. I actually came to love nine O
Speaker 5: two one oh through Save by the Bell.
Speaker 4: Okay, well, I didn't know that, and I feel like
Speaker 4: I was cheating on a little bit.
Speaker 2: But whatever's got.
Speaker 5: I was at a book fair in grade eight. Do
Speaker 5: you remember like Scholastic book fairs? Huh yeah, and they
Speaker 5: had this book meet the cast of two and oh,
Speaker 5: and I was like, oh cool. So I was like looking.
Speaker 2: Through one of the greatest books of all time.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, totally incredible. And I was flipping through and
Speaker 5: I was like, oh wow, who's this chick? And I
Speaker 5: was like, she's pretty good looking. And then I read
Speaker 5: in the description here TV experiences appearances on Save by
Speaker 5: the Bell. I was like, what did she plan on
Speaker 5: Save by the Bell? I do not remember her character?
Speaker 5: And then I put two and two together and I
Speaker 5: was like, oh, she was Violet bicker Staff. So I
Speaker 5: was like, I'm totally going to start watching this show
Speaker 5: because I love Save by the Bell and I thought
Speaker 5: she was awesome as a Violet bicker Staff, and that's
Speaker 5: how my infatuation with two started. Save by the crazy
Speaker 5: Yeah that's so.
Speaker 2: Now why.
Speaker 4: And I've always tried to figure out in my own
Speaker 4: mind why your connection with her and Donna Martin and
Speaker 4: all that. I always assumed maybe it was because you
Speaker 4: guys shared the same last name, the same initial.
Speaker 5: So it was also a Steve Martin fan.
Speaker 2: Are you you so?
Speaker 4: I assume that you had some sort of like kindred
Speaker 4: you know, we're brother and sister in a past life
Speaker 4: kind of thing, or but maybe I'm way off, maybe
Speaker 4: way off.
Speaker 5: I think it started just because I was a big
Speaker 5: fan of hers. I don't know. Donna was always on
Speaker 5: the show. She was the approachable, friendly one that was like,
Speaker 5: I don't know, almost like she didn't care who you
Speaker 5: were or your background. She was like willing to be
Speaker 5: your friend and stuff like that. Maybe that's why I
Speaker 5: gravitated towards her. I don't know. I also like Jason Priestley,
Speaker 5: loved because he was Canadian and you obviously because you
Speaker 5: dated that because.
Speaker 2: I'm on the show with you right now to say
Speaker 2: that over your shoulder, Yeah, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 5: You're like Jimney Croocket right there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you uh, you became a fan of the
Speaker 2: show what early on, like.
Speaker 5: A couple of years in yeah, years. In The first
Speaker 5: episode I watched was a season three episode, I believe. Okay,
Speaker 5: it was the episode where Andrea is having dreams that
Speaker 5: she's joining the circus and Gil Myers is like shaking
Speaker 5: the tight rope that she's walking on. That was the
Speaker 5: first episode I ever saw, Okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you went back and you rewatched the
Speaker 2: previous ones.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because that was like I think like episode eighty something,
Speaker 5: and after you guys hit like one hundred episodes and
Speaker 5: went into syndication and then they are every day after
Speaker 5: school at three o'clock. So I caught up on the
Speaker 5: first three seasons right away, and then I was caught
Speaker 5: off the broadcast by the end of season four.
Speaker 2: That's crazy, that's amazing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so what I know, you've you've been friends now
Speaker 4: with Toy for a long time. And again, I really
Speaker 4: want this to be a celebration of Toy, Like, this
Speaker 4: is not sitting around talking about this person we knew.
Speaker 2: This is talking about a person that we know. Yes,
Speaker 2: she's she is feeling under the weather.
Speaker 4: So I've I feel like, what better way of cheering
Speaker 4: somebody up than letting them watch something of a bunch
Speaker 4: of people.
Speaker 2: Talking about how great they are?
Speaker 5: So so.
Speaker 2: How about it? This is if this was a message
Speaker 2: for Toy, you know she's going to be watching this.
Speaker 5: She's Yeah. Over the years, she's it blows my mind
Speaker 5: the amount of opportunities and things she's made happen for me.
Speaker 5: When I first met her in two thousand and nine
Speaker 5: at a book signing, I obviously had been a fan
Speaker 5: since I was like fourteen years old and drove fourteen
Speaker 5: hours to New Brunswick, Canada, to New Jersey to go
Speaker 5: to her book signing, and she was just like flaberg
Speaker 5: acid that somebody would take the time to travel that
Speaker 5: far to go meet her, and I was like super excited,
Speaker 5: and like it showed up on camera because it was
Speaker 5: being filmed by her reality show, and we didn't get
Speaker 5: the reality show in Canada, but a friend of mine
Speaker 5: in the US was like, you were just on Tori
Speaker 5: Spellen's reality show and they sent me a video of it,
Speaker 5: and I was like looking all goofy, like you just
Speaker 5: made my dreams come true. I was, and I had
Speaker 5: no idea it was even being filmed. Yeah, and yeah,
Speaker 5: so it all sat in two thousand and nine. We
Speaker 5: became friends, and that was back at the beginning stages
Speaker 5: of Twitter, okay, And so we'd like strike up a
Speaker 5: conversation on there and she'd retweet stuff like photos or
Speaker 5: like get Tori Spelling to be in this movie or
Speaker 5: something like that. She would like just like retweet me
Speaker 5: and stuff like that.
Speaker 4: Were you just flabbergasted at first, like speaking to her
Speaker 4: on Twitter and having any sort of a connection with her.
Speaker 5: It's with any of you guys, really, but yes, with her,
Speaker 5: especially the beginning, like the fact that she even knew
Speaker 5: who I was. I remember the first book Sonning I
Speaker 5: went to, she didn't really know who I was. She was,
Speaker 5: you know, honored that I was like making such a
Speaker 5: big deal of her. But by the second and third
Speaker 5: book Sunning that I went to, she knew who I
Speaker 5: was and she was tweeting me on the limo or
Speaker 5: the like, in her suv on the way to the
Speaker 5: actual event and she's like, oh, I can't wait to
Speaker 5: see DM. And the fact that she knew who I
Speaker 5: was and was like as soon as she got there,
Speaker 5: she found me in line and brought me to the
Speaker 5: front of the line, and she just just an amazing woman.
Speaker 5: And one time I went to a book signing in
Speaker 5: New York City for her, and it was my birthday weekend.
Speaker 5: I think it was twenty eleven, so I would have
Speaker 5: been Wow. I would have been probably thirty two or something,
Speaker 5: and I went to New York City for my birthday
Speaker 5: and she's like, oh, I'm doing a taping of Martha's Stewart.
Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, yeah, I tried to get standby tickets
Speaker 5: but they're completely sold out, and she's like, oh, don't
Speaker 5: worry about it, I'll get you in. So I waited
Speaker 5: outside Martha Stewart's headquarters in New York City in Chelsea
Speaker 5: and she pulls up in her SUV and brings me
Speaker 5: through security. We go up to the dressing room. I
Speaker 5: get to see Martha Stewart in this big, glass, thin
Speaker 5: conference room sitting around a table, and it was just
Speaker 5: it was insane. And she was like, Oh, Darren, you're awesome.
Speaker 5: I can't I can't believe you travel this way to
Speaker 5: kind of my book signing, and thank you for supporting
Speaker 5: me and being there for me.
Speaker 2: And yeah, so that's that's really really cool.
Speaker 5: Yeah, very cool.
Speaker 4: She's a very like I watch her because we've been
Speaker 4: doing the conventions and stuff now, and she is very
Speaker 4: committed to her fans and the people that waite in line,
Speaker 4: and she is really conscious of making it a great
Speaker 4: experience for the people that are there. And it's funny,
Speaker 4: like we're both very similar that way, and they they
Speaker 4: usually put the two of us together, our tables together,
Speaker 4: because people come and they do, you know, they want
Speaker 4: pictures with David and Donna, and we always end up
Speaker 4: with these long lines because we take.
Speaker 2: Forever to get to get through people.
Speaker 4: And I look over and she's just like chatting way
Speaker 4: and she'll be dancing, she'll be doing like doing all
Speaker 4: sorts of stuff. But it's great, Like it's I always say,
Speaker 4: you know, fans will come to these conventions and they'll
Speaker 4: wait sometimes for hours in line, and even if you
Speaker 4: can only give them forty five seconds a minute and
Speaker 4: a half, make it great, like make it unbelievable experience.
Speaker 4: So people walk away and they feel like they got
Speaker 4: way more than just your autograph on something, because you
Speaker 4: can buy that on eBay.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's not you know, and it being personalized.
Speaker 4: That's not the experience that is just like the thing
Speaker 4: you can show people of like oh I was there
Speaker 4: and look they even put my name on it.
Speaker 2: Whatever. But it's the memory of the experience that lasts.
Speaker 2: And Tori is so.
Speaker 4: Aware of that, and she's so good and uh personable
Speaker 4: as far as just sitting with people and making sure
Speaker 4: that everyone has the best experience that they possibly can
Speaker 4: and not and not for the reason of.
Speaker 2: How she's perceived. Like you, you meet people like that
Speaker 2: sometimes that are just aware of.
Speaker 4: Like, oh, I'm being watched right now, so I better
Speaker 4: be really kind and you know, and nice to everyone.
Speaker 4: She is genuinely a kind, loving, considerate person and you
Speaker 4: you are very much the same way. So it's not
Speaker 4: surprising to me that you guys are friends and know
Speaker 4: each other, and it's it's been fun for me because
Speaker 4: I came into this convention game late, as you know,
Speaker 4: but it's been fun getting to know you and seeing
Speaker 4: how this all works and realizing just how much of
Speaker 4: a player you are within the history of this show now.
Speaker 4: And I know that's crazy to hear because you started
Speaker 4: just as a fan of it, and I get it.
Speaker 4: Fan of Star Wars, Like, we have this conversation all
Speaker 4: the time. You're always like, dude, if you know, if
Speaker 4: Luke Skywalker invited you over to do is how, you'd
Speaker 4: be out of your mind.
Speaker 5: You'd be yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: But it's amazing to see now because I am in
Speaker 4: this from a different perspective. You know, we're not on
Speaker 4: set making this show anymore.
Speaker 2: The show.
Speaker 4: It's now twenty five years after the fact, and we're
Speaker 4: still talking about it and we're still sharing these stories.
Speaker 4: So it's really cool to see how you have come
Speaker 4: up within this world and now you are a major
Speaker 4: part of this world as well, not just with your
Speaker 4: room of stuff.
Speaker 5: You know, that's right, it does it. I pinch myself
Speaker 5: and people anytime there's anything non out who related in
Speaker 5: the news or like somebody's in a movie or something,
Speaker 5: I get like three or four text from different people
Speaker 5: friends of mine. They're like, oh, this is on. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 5: I'm totally aware that this.
Speaker 2: Is a totally yeah. Have you talked to anyone I did?
Speaker 4: I actually talked to Brian last night. He was yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: that's that's got to be a trip.
Speaker 5: That's really it's a trip. It's I don't even have to. Like,
Speaker 5: I know, I keep using the words surreal, but my
Speaker 5: brain can't use I can't think of any other word
Speaker 5: that adequately describes how far out it is. Like if
Speaker 5: fourteen year old me would have known back then, when
Speaker 5: the show was in its heyday, that I would actually
Speaker 5: know you guys and be friends with you guys and
Speaker 5: just communicate with you guys instead of like writing fan
Speaker 5: letters like I used to. Yeah, it's just it's unfathomable,
Speaker 5: Like I can't wrap my head around it.
Speaker 4: It's it's uh, it's like a really amazing reminder of
Speaker 4: even though this world is incredibly large and the population
Speaker 4: is massive, how small it can still be because I
Speaker 4: think like minded people attract like minded people. So it's again,
Speaker 4: it's like I said to you before, it's no surprise
Speaker 4: to me knowing Tory as well as I do that
Speaker 4: you that you two became friends and now you are
Speaker 4: friends with all of us the.
Speaker 2: Way you are.
Speaker 5: It's not You're going to make me cry. Dude.
Speaker 4: When I hear that I'm going somewhere and You're going
Speaker 4: to be at the convention, it's like Darren's gonna be
Speaker 4: That's fucking awesome, Like it's you know, it's it's a
Speaker 4: celebration on on our side too, because we know how
Speaker 4: fucking lucky we are to have someone that is as
Speaker 4: passionate about the show, you know.
Speaker 2: And that's that's the thing that that I'm aware of,
Speaker 2: is that like, as as as fun as it is
Speaker 2: for you to be around me, it's that passion of
Speaker 2: the show. Like the show was this thing.
Speaker 4: And I wish that we were all friends during the
Speaker 4: time when we were making the show, because you for
Speaker 4: sure would have been by set and hanging out and
Speaker 4: doing all that. But it was amazing to be in
Speaker 4: Vancouver and to have you be a part of that.
Speaker 4: That was that was really cool. And that is uh,
Speaker 4: that's I've seen that picture before from fans of like,
Speaker 4: you know, oh this was yeah exactly there you know,
Speaker 4: yeah on the mug and then just the one of
Speaker 4: like when they were shooting your close ups and everything
Speaker 4: and it was just you and the crowd.
Speaker 2: It was really cool. Yeah, So dude, thank you so
Speaker 2: much for being here.
Speaker 4: If you wanted just a quick message to to Tori
Speaker 4: just before before you go anything.
Speaker 5: Yeah, totally, toy. You know, I love you and I'm
Speaker 5: thinking of you and I'm hoping you feel better really
Speaker 5: soon and get back to your normal chaotic life which
Speaker 5: you strive. You strive with chaos. You've always said that,
Speaker 5: and I believe it, and I hope you're doing well
Speaker 5: and feeling better and I just love you and uh
Speaker 5: thinking about you.
Speaker 2: Ah, dude, Darren Martin, you're the man. So so good
Speaker 2: to see you, brother. Yeah, nice, and you talk soon.
Speaker 2: But Randy Spelling, what's here? We are, Brian, we are.
Speaker 2: How you doing fantastic? So this is so your sister
Speaker 2: is uh is sick, she's not feeling great.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so.
Speaker 4: So iHeart asked me to kind of step up and
Speaker 4: take over for her for a couple of weeks while
Speaker 4: she's recovering, which we want her to do, like we
Speaker 4: really want her to take the time recover, get you know,
Speaker 4: get aheads up. I'm I'm assuming she's learned by this
Speaker 4: at fifty two that drinking diet doctor pepper all day
Speaker 4: long instead of water is not really the way to go.
Speaker 2: And that's the low hanging fruit, right, that's the like
Speaker 2: that is water is the low hanging drink. You drink water.
Speaker 4: It's like, you know, if they're into the environment, you
Speaker 4: don't use plastic straws like it's just one of those
Speaker 4: like it's one of those simple fixes.
Speaker 2: So here we are we uh, I know she is,
Speaker 2: like she's detoxing with the family.
Speaker 4: You know, they're still dealing with some residual stuff from
Speaker 4: the mold that she dealt with before.
Speaker 2: There's a whole bunch of stuff. So I figured I
Speaker 2: had the idea.
Speaker 4: Of, like, why don't we make this a celebration of
Speaker 4: Tory instead of me trying to step in and do
Speaker 4: what Toy does, because Toy is very unique in what
Speaker 4: she does. She you know, uh, I will not talk
Speaker 4: to William Shatner about anal. That's just no place that
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go, yeah, exactly. So so
Speaker 4: I was like, okay, fair, So what is a what
Speaker 4: is a good way then for this to this to
Speaker 4: accomplish what it is they want and kind of paid
Speaker 4: tribute to her and I, you know, she has so
Speaker 4: positively affected so many people in her life, and I
Speaker 4: think it would just be great for her to be
Speaker 4: able to sit down and watch this and go, oh man,
Speaker 4: this was really cool. All of these people reaching out
Speaker 4: talking to Brian doing this kind of sit down thing. So, uh,
Speaker 4: that's why you're here, because you nobody knows Toy better
Speaker 4: than you do. I mean, you know, I like I
Speaker 4: know Toy pretty well. Yeah, because it's been from a
Speaker 4: young age.
Speaker 1: You have been around, She's been in your life, your
Speaker 1: entire life, so I've seen it all.
Speaker 2: So yeah, what are your What are some of the
Speaker 2: things that growing up watching Toy?
Speaker 4: What are some of the things that you really picked
Speaker 4: up from her that have carried through into your adult life.
Speaker 1: Hmmm, gosh, there's so many things. I mean, she is
Speaker 1: five years older, and so I was the little brother
Speaker 1: who idolized my older sister and wanted to, you know,
Speaker 1: be cool and dress cool. So I copied so many
Speaker 1: things from how she dressed and how she talked to
Speaker 1: She was always I don't know if people know this
Speaker 1: about Tori, but she was always a really good writer.
Speaker 1: She was super creative. She always drew figures and dreads
Speaker 1: like she was she was a pretty good artist. She
Speaker 1: was just very, very very creative, and I think we
Speaker 1: all had that. Our dad had that in many ways,
Speaker 1: you know, producing shows and writing as well. My mom
Speaker 1: had that, She's done so many different things, and Tory
Speaker 1: very much had that. So something that I always wanted
Speaker 1: to carry with me is the wave that she would
Speaker 1: create in the world. And so that was one of
Speaker 1: the things, like that she would write poems, right, and
Speaker 1: then we ended up writing our parents' anniversary poems and
Speaker 1: my mom still has them framed around the house. And
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say there was competition, but also healthy competition.
Speaker 2: There was healthy competition. I would assume.
Speaker 4: Competition of like, you know, not that I'm gonna like
Speaker 4: outdo you because you suck and I'm better than you,
Speaker 4: but like, hey, this is let's see who can come
Speaker 4: up with some cooler things. And then you guys would
Speaker 4: sort of cheer each other on and do that. I
Speaker 4: would assume, yeah, well, a.
Speaker 1: Little rise to the occasion situation, right, like oh she
Speaker 1: wrote that for the anniversary. Wow, when she framed it,
Speaker 1: and that was really good, So you know, next year
Speaker 1: I'll do something. It was kind of like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And then interestingly enough humor, so Tori start you would
Speaker 1: know this better than me. There was a time on
Speaker 1: the show where she started to find her comedic timing
Speaker 1: and her voice, and she infused more of that into
Speaker 1: Donna Martin. Sure, and when she did that, because she
Speaker 1: was always funny. She always had that side to her,
Speaker 1: but she started to play around with that more just
Speaker 1: in life and bring that out. So her and I
Speaker 1: always had this funny banter, especially when I got older
Speaker 1: and I started to know who I was and she
Speaker 1: was sort of more rooted in who she was. We'd
Speaker 1: play around with humor and I would I would see
Speaker 1: her just socially being her more and using her humor
Speaker 1: in situations, either to diffuse or people would come up
Speaker 1: on the street and she would make jokes. And you know,
Speaker 1: because you both have this, you're so caring with people,
Speaker 1: so good with people, whether they're fans or people that
Speaker 1: you talk to, you both always try to make them
Speaker 1: feel good and you know, lift them up again. So
Speaker 1: I watched her do that, and that was a piece
Speaker 1: I feel like, I you know, a bits and pieces
Speaker 1: like ooh, I like that. I'm gonna I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: that with me.
Speaker 2: Ooh, I like that.
Speaker 1: And that was one of them. Is her ability to
Speaker 1: use humor while connecting with others.
Speaker 4: Do you do you feel like that is something then
Speaker 4: that has carried into your professional life. I mean, being
Speaker 4: a life coach, you have to connect with people on
Speaker 4: a very human.
Speaker 2: Level. And make people feel comfortable in opening up to you.
Speaker 4: So is that is that a skill that had carried
Speaker 4: over into that or has it sort of been separate
Speaker 4: where you're like, no, I've got to I've got to
Speaker 4: keep it a little more PG and a little more.
Speaker 2: Right up the middle for my clients and.
Speaker 1: That well, I will say this, our humor is different,
Speaker 1: okay the way sure like I wouldn't.
Speaker 4: Also, she had William Shatter on and and she talked
Speaker 4: about anal like let's you know, like, let's write very
Speaker 4: very different.
Speaker 1: But Tory is willing to go there and ruffle feathers.
Speaker 1: I mean, that is one thing that I appreciate about her.
Speaker 1: She's willing to get in there and have those conversations
Speaker 1: where it's just not as much my style. But she
Speaker 1: can be a rule breaker, And I think I was
Speaker 1: always the one where I didn't want to break the
Speaker 1: rules and I wanted to follow exactly this is being
Speaker 1: told how it is and what to do. And she'd
Speaker 1: be like no, And I look at her and go,
Speaker 1: what do you mean, right? No, Randy, why do you
Speaker 1: think that is?
Speaker 2: Because that's not like her. If you look at her.
Speaker 4: The things that she normally does, like what is sort
Speaker 4: of in her wheel that is not She's not normally
Speaker 4: someone that crosses people or is in the confrontation in
Speaker 4: any way. So what is it about then that side
Speaker 4: where she feels you think she feels free to be
Speaker 4: that way.
Speaker 1: That's a good question because there's a real juxtaposition I
Speaker 1: think inside of her as the people please her and
Speaker 1: we both have that, but then this other side where
Speaker 1: she's like, I'm not going to be told what to
Speaker 1: do or how to do it. I want to do
Speaker 1: it my way, and following that, and I think there's
Speaker 1: probably a battle there a lot of I.
Speaker 2: Don't want to hurt anyone.
Speaker 1: I don't want to confront this, I don't want to
Speaker 1: deal with something that's really uncomfortable. But also that comes
Speaker 1: out of you know, I don't I don't want to
Speaker 1: hurt someone. So I don't think her her breaking the
Speaker 1: rules comes out of a place of I'm doing this
Speaker 1: because I'm gonna hurt anyone or it's gonna affect anyone negatively, right,
Speaker 1: For sure, I think it's more of there are certain
Speaker 1: times where she has her certainty where she's like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna do this, and she goes with it.
Speaker 2: Toy. Tori has a really unique way of.
Speaker 4: Being self deprecating enough to where when she does push
Speaker 4: for something she wants, she's so.
Speaker 2: Like outwardly.
Speaker 4: Opposes herself in general that you kind of feel like
Speaker 4: you want to give her the win on this, Like
Speaker 4: it's very it's very smart what she does. Like she
Speaker 4: it's I think she learned at an early at an
Speaker 4: early age with the I don't know if it was
Speaker 4: with the show, with you know, finding an audience, because
Speaker 4: I know she had she was up against a lot.
Speaker 4: I mean, she honestly is one of the first NEPO
Speaker 4: babies you really look at that like was that was
Speaker 4: so thrown in her face and so thrown around. I
Speaker 4: think she figured out a way though, of being comfortable
Speaker 4: in who she wanted to be and then making it
Speaker 4: seem like I'm a mess, so just give you this
Speaker 4: little bit of something that makes me feel comfortable. So
Speaker 4: people went, Okay, yeah, we'll give you a little space,
Speaker 4: you know, we'll let we'll let you run a little bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it very well could be. I mean, I
Speaker 2: don't know if it was so predetermined.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I don't think it's I don't think it's
Speaker 4: premeditated at all. I think it's like sub some subconscious thing. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but it's you know, like you're subconscious when you when
Speaker 4: you figure out how to get away with things, then
Speaker 4: you're then it starts becoming autopilot for you. Like she's
Speaker 4: she's very much on autopilot in a lot of ways
Speaker 4: because she figured out what kind of gets her, what
Speaker 4: what she means.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's amazing, it's amazing. She's so fun to be around.
Speaker 2: She is, she's.
Speaker 1: Soused that she is a fun person, and it's it's
Speaker 1: really interesting. I tell her this a lot of how
Speaker 1: magnetic she is. I don't think she realizes and sees
Speaker 1: herself as accurately as some other people do, because I've
Speaker 1: been around her where I just I you know, I
Speaker 1: watch I watch people, and I watch her. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: people are drawn to her. It's not just the celebrity
Speaker 1: or them knowing her. She has this magnetism and likability
Speaker 1: that I'm sure was really hard to see yourself accurately.
Speaker 1: When she did get so much of the Aaron Spelling's daughter,
Speaker 1: and she only has this job because of him, I mean,
Speaker 1: she really got it pretty rough.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she had she had to really create above and
Speaker 4: beyond a reason why she was there where people would go, oh,
Speaker 4: nobody else could have delivered this in this way, like
Speaker 4: it had nothing to do with the fact that it
Speaker 4: was Aaron's daughter, like it was. She had to she
Speaker 4: had a lot to prove to people. But god, what
Speaker 4: what an amazing job she did. Shannon used to always
Speaker 4: say that nobody in her life made her laugh the
Speaker 4: way your sister did. Nobody Shannon would laugh in a
Speaker 4: certain way where it just like, because Tory says things
Speaker 4: that are so dumb funny, sometimes you're like, oh, my god,
Speaker 4: I can't believe that you just.
Speaker 2: Said that, and you just went there again.
Speaker 4: William Shatner and anal like, that's just a weird that's
Speaker 4: a combination that you wouldn't normally put together.
Speaker 1: You know, Hey, so you saw Shannon and Tory together?
Speaker 1: Could would you watch that happen?
Speaker 2: Yeah? All the time?
Speaker 4: It was, And it was really great to see because
Speaker 4: they didn't they hadn't spoken for a while when the
Speaker 4: show was done and Shannon went and was doing Charmed,
Speaker 4: and then when that was done, and then Shannon was
Speaker 4: kind of on her own, and then we all got
Speaker 4: together again for the reboot and Shannon and Tory really
Speaker 4: reconnected again, and it was so great to watch Shan
Speaker 4: enjoy that relationship and see the things where I was like, god,
Speaker 4: I remember when I was like eighteen and nineteen on set,
Speaker 4: and that's exactly what I would see when we would
Speaker 4: all be like going out to Roxbury and just being
Speaker 4: kids and like going out.
Speaker 2: It was the it was they picked up where they
Speaker 2: left off. It was really it was really cool to see.
Speaker 1: I'm happy to hear that from Shannon's side because I
Speaker 1: saw from Tory's side reconnecting with Shannon what an impact
Speaker 1: that had on her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the reminder of the.
Speaker 1: Strength that Shannon held and exuded, and what a great
Speaker 1: role model that was for Tory to be like, oh oh,
Speaker 1: I forgot because Shannon would just remind her, like, Toy,
Speaker 1: you are you are strong, own it and.
Speaker 4: It's such an important time in her life too. Like you,
Speaker 4: it's to me, there are no coincidences. Everything happens the
Speaker 4: way they're supposed to. And to look at the fact
Speaker 4: that Shannon Tory reconnect reconnected when they did, and then
Speaker 4: Tory now is single with the kids and all that,
Speaker 4: but she is in this place now of like really
Speaker 4: figuring out how to take control of what it is
Speaker 4: she wants and realizing that the buck stops at her,
Speaker 4: that there is nobody that she can point the finger
Speaker 4: at anymore or no. And that's so much that I
Speaker 4: know came from Shannon, because Shannon was always the one
Speaker 4: that was like, stop fucking doing what you're doing. Like
Speaker 4: she was very blunt about it, but she was blunt
Speaker 4: because she cared, like it wasn't it wasn't just her
Speaker 4: being difficult, it was that was how. That was one
Speaker 4: of the ways that Shannon was such an amazing friend
Speaker 4: to both of us. So it's so cool to see
Speaker 4: Toy now going into the world with the much more
Speaker 4: responsible outlook on all of it. Like she's the choices
Speaker 4: that she's making now, She's like, no, these are choices
Speaker 4: because I want to set myself up for the second
Speaker 4: act of my life, Like I want to do this
Speaker 4: the right way.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Some of my favorite things to watch my girls and
Speaker 1: I will look at it, or her cooking video she'll
Speaker 1: share she's excited to make a recipe and I know
Speaker 1: it's so simple and ridiculous, but her and I, I'll
Speaker 1: cook something and I'll go, what do you think of
Speaker 1: this what do you think it is? And we sort
Speaker 1: of toggle back and forth, and it's just fun at
Speaker 1: this stage of life that you know she's there when
Speaker 1: she can cooking and making these meals and enjoying that
Speaker 1: part with the kids at this point because we connected
Speaker 1: over food so much from childhood. That was one thing
Speaker 1: that was always front and center was food.
Speaker 2: Who do you think is the better cook of you two?
Speaker 1: I think we should see I think there should be
Speaker 1: an episode somewhere somehow where we go down and she
Speaker 1: makes a meal and I make a meal.
Speaker 4: Because I don't know how to answer that. So so
Speaker 4: then that's something that we uh that we try and
Speaker 4: set up this year. We try and set up a
Speaker 4: live cooking challenge between you two and we'll pick what
Speaker 4: we'll have. Yeah, we'll have someone come in though that
Speaker 4: is a true chef like Curtis Stone or somebody like that,
Speaker 4: to taste tests between the two and give their honest
Speaker 4: opinion of which one is better.
Speaker 2: My heart's beating fast. I'm so excited. I want to
Speaker 2: show your heart techniques.
Speaker 4: We'll see, we'll see if we can get some cookware
Speaker 4: from Gordon Ramsay. Yes, that hex cloud is fantastic. Yeah
Speaker 4: you like the hex Clad I know. Yeah, yeah, we'll
Speaker 4: run that and uh and we'll do something really fun
Speaker 4: that way. Dude, your sister loves you to death, which
Speaker 4: I is totally understandable. She is absolutely in awe of
Speaker 4: who you've become and the way you care yourself and
Speaker 4: the way you are with your kids and your wife
Speaker 4: and your life. And and then I know that she
Speaker 4: just means the world to you. I've seen you two together,
Speaker 4: so I think it's amazing. Thank you for coming on
Speaker 4: and doing this. I hope she enjoys watching this little bit,
Speaker 4: this little slice of insanity we get, we get a
Speaker 4: bunch of these.
Speaker 2: I've got a couple more, a couple more people I
Speaker 2: want to hit up. Yeah, slices of insanity. I love it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: thank you for asking me to do this.
Speaker 1: And the challenge is on.
Speaker 2: Oh dude, the challenge is no, we're going to do this,
Speaker 2: the challenges. We're going to do this for sure. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I love you man. Good to see you too, brother.
Speaker 2: All right later