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Speaker 1: Misspelling with Tory Spelling and iHeartRadio podcast, Matthew.

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Speaker 2: Lawrence, Brian Austin Green, My friend, how are you? Thank

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Speaker 2: you so much for doing this? Please?

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Speaker 3: Are you kidding?

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Speaker 4: So you were the first one that came to mind

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Speaker 4: when this came about. I had this idea of, since

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Speaker 4: Tory is not feeling great, of doing this this couple

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Speaker 4: episodes for and really making it a celebration of Toy

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Speaker 4: because she's so loved by the people that know her

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Speaker 4: and that have spent time around her. And I know

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Speaker 4: you spent so much time around her because our storylines

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Speaker 4: were together, and I know that you know, we used

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Speaker 4: to imber on a daily basis. I would always have

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Speaker 4: people asking me, so, what's Toy like? And how is

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Speaker 4: that it's the boss's daughter and all of that, And

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Speaker 4: I was always so shocked, and I loved the fact

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Speaker 4: that I could genuinely say to people that if you

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Speaker 4: didn't know that Toy was the boss's daughter, you would

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Speaker 4: never know it by being on set and being around her,

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Speaker 4: because it was never it was never a card that

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Speaker 4: she played, It was never anything that she flexed. Right,

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Speaker 4: how was it for you coming because you came in?

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Speaker 4: Was it the first season.

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Speaker 3: When no, it was the beginning of the second season yep,

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Speaker 3: and just real quickly I got involved. I had never

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Speaker 3: seen the show. Okay, the first year I knew about it,

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Speaker 3: but I had never seen it. And my agent called

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Speaker 3: and said, they want to see you about possibly playing

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Speaker 3: the father of one of the people on the show.

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Speaker 3: I don't even think I ever told you this, and

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Speaker 3: I didn't. I was doing other things. And I kind

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Speaker 3: of went, I don't think so, because you remember the

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Speaker 3: first year was not that great.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for the show. Nobody was, nobody was watching it.

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Speaker 2: We were like far from a hit. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And so I said to my agent, I don't know,

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Speaker 3: you know, he said, listen, you've never played a father before.

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Speaker 2: I think, just go talk to them. It'll be good.

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Speaker 3: So I went and I sat with the guys who

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Speaker 3: are now some of them my friends, and we talked

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Speaker 3: about it was supposed to be one episode and I said,

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Speaker 3: whose father would.

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Speaker 2: I be playing?

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Speaker 3: And they said Brian Austin Green and I said, who

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Speaker 3: I'm in? Did you really well, if you you remember this,

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Speaker 3: you were how old were you when you did Circus

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Speaker 3: of the Stars twelve? Okay that's when we met. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: we rehearsed that summer. I walked the high wire. You

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Speaker 3: did some easy thing where they flipped you in the air.

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Speaker 2: Don't say easy, are you crazy? I did a teterboard

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Speaker 2: my friend that I had to wear pink tights. Okay, yes, okay,

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Speaker 2: well like sparkles on them. So let's that's even the

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Speaker 2: playing field a little bit.

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Speaker 3: I'll show you the picture of my costume. Forget about

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Speaker 3: the big tights.

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Speaker 2: And bad as mine, but okay, go ahead.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, I was being sarcastic. That thing you did was insane. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: So we spent a few weeks together during rehearsals, and

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Speaker 3: I loved you and I got to know your mom.

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Speaker 3: It was great. So when they said your father, I

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Speaker 3: was like, oh, I'm so in and you don't. You

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Speaker 3: don't remember this, and I'll get to Tory in the second.

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Speaker 3: You don't remember this. But my first day on the show,

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Speaker 3: I walked into the makeup trailer and you were sitting

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Speaker 3: in the makeup chair, and you stood up and came

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Speaker 3: over and we hugged each other and it was great.

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Speaker 3: And I believe you said to me, how old were

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Speaker 3: you then? Like second? Seventeen seventeen? Yes, I believe you

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Speaker 3: said to me. I said, how are you doing? I

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Speaker 3: know you're doing great, and you said, I just closed

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Speaker 2: I went, wait, what what? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Anyway, I have very vivid memories of you guys.

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Speaker 2: I remember that.

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Speaker 4: I don't remember telling you that I closed on a house,

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Speaker 4: but I remember that. I remember clearly when you came

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Speaker 4: in because I someone had mentioned your name that you

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Speaker 4: were coming in to play my dad, and I was

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Speaker 4: excited about it because we did get along so well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when we were doing Circus at the Stars.

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Speaker 3: Yep, here's the amazing thing you asked about. What was

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Speaker 3: it like for me on the show. I had already

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Speaker 3: done a lot of work, and to be around the

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Speaker 3: group of you, all you guys from that point, and

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Speaker 3: then going forward nine years and seeing people don't realize.

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Speaker 2: What you are.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it was great you were working and getting

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Speaker 3: famous and making money, but people never realized. I always

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Speaker 3: used to talk about it, all the things that you

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Speaker 3: had to go through in dealing with all of that stuff,

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Speaker 3: and nobody more so than Tory, as you said, nobody,

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Speaker 2: Who her dad was.

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Speaker 3: And now I'm going to tell you a great story

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Speaker 3: about Tory Okay. I loved all of you, well almost

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Speaker 3: all of you, but that's another.

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Speaker 2: Story, that's another podcast.

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Speaker 3: I loved most of you. Anyway. I lived in the

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Speaker 3: house at that time. I shared a house, a huge

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Speaker 3: house on Mulholland Drive, and the top floor of the

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Speaker 3: house it was four floors. It went into the hill

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Speaker 3: bottom two floors and a couple that owned the house

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Speaker 3: and it was amazing. Anyway. The deep Paul Thomas, who

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Speaker 3: owned the house, was a director, and for the summer

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Speaker 3: they did a house swap with a family from Scotland,

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Speaker 3: from Edinburgh, Scotland, and that family came over. This was

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Speaker 3: the third or fourth year, I think, so around ninety

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Speaker 3: four or five. Only from Scotland came over. And the

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Speaker 3: they had a sixteen year old daughter.

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Speaker 2: I believe she was Oh boy prime. Okay.

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Speaker 3: I didn't say a word, and Paul and Debbie hadn't

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Speaker 3: told them anything except somebody was sharing the house with them.

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Speaker 3: I walked out into the driveway and this young lady

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Speaker 3: my god, Beverly Hills. That's what they called it over there. Yeah, anyway,

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Speaker 3: I talked to her and over the next couple days,

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Speaker 3: you're coming to work with me. Well, she didn't sleep

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Speaker 3: in the morning. The next morning, we drive to work

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Speaker 3: and once again, she gets out of the car with

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Speaker 3: I get choked up thinking about this. Tory was in there,

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Speaker 3: she was from Scotland and they were here. And Tory

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Speaker 3: finished and she stood up and she took this girl's

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Speaker 2: She took her all over.

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Speaker 3: All the sets. She took her into the peach pit

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Speaker 3: and Joey was in there, and I forget who else

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Speaker 3: she took pictures of this girl with everybody. I didn't

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Speaker 3: see them for an hour. I had no idea where

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Speaker 2: It was.

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Speaker 3: Her parents told me that night it was the greatest day.

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Speaker 2: Of her life.

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Speaker 3: And it was all because of how I get choked up,

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Speaker 3: how amazing Tory was, how wonderful and kind, and those

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Speaker 3: think of that story right away, and just being with

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Speaker 3: her all the time. She was never not that way

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Speaker 3: in nine years, none of you were. Tory was never,

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Speaker 3: and wonderful. Yeah, I just I love all of you,

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Speaker 3: But Tori is really something.

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Speaker 4: I let me just let me just point out that,

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Speaker 4: you know, as you are giving her her well deserved

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Speaker 4: flowers for that, you're the one that made that happen.

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Speaker 2: So let's just like, let's just sit on that for

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Speaker 4: You like, you can say, well, but the reality is

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Speaker 4: that girl was at our set because you brought her there.

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Speaker 4: So what an amazing story that you shared of toy,

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Speaker 4: But what an amazing.

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Speaker 2: Story of you.

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Speaker 4: And it's one of it's honestly one of the things

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Speaker 4: for as big as it was that story that you're

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Speaker 4: telling me of Toy grabbing her hand and walking around

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Speaker 2: That happened daily.

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Speaker 4: We had people that would come to set daily and

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Speaker 4: it was it started becoming a challenge for us of

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Speaker 4: first and give them that day and it was make

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Speaker 4: a wish kids, It was friends, you know, friends of

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Speaker 2: So it was a great story.

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Speaker 4: It was a great story, amazing We loved working with you.

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Speaker 4: I'm so glad that the job with you went from

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Speaker 4: one episode to nine years because we had this amazing

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Speaker 4: I love you, my friend, and thank you so much

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Speaker 4: for coming in and sharing that about Toy. This is

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Speaker 4: again like I really wanted this, this show to be

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Speaker 4: this really fun look back from people that knew Tori

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Speaker 4: and loved her for fans. I think I think fans

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Speaker 4: should know what amazing human being you're a fan of.

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Speaker 3: Well, what what as you said about me? The same

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Speaker 3: goes back to you, pl because this is exactly why

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Speaker 3: I love you the most, not only what you did

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Speaker 3: for my friend Sarah, who's the biggest nine O two

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Speaker 3: one Oh fan, Hi Sarah, Hi Sarah birthday, and that

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Speaker 3: that meant more than anything in the world. I heard

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Speaker 3: that you did a twenty second video. But here's the

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Speaker 3: amazing thing before I go, when we think that was

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Speaker 3: nineteen ninety one, ninety two, maybe was my first day

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Speaker 3: on the show, So that is thirty four years ago.

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Speaker 2: And here you and I are. So I'm still quick here.

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Speaker 3: Oh you have no idea, But thirty four years later,

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Speaker 3: you and I are looking at each other and talking

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Speaker 3: about this. It is the best part of my life

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Speaker 3: is the people that I worked with and loved and

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Speaker 3: know and still know. And I love you more than

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Speaker 3: words could say, Brian, and.

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Speaker 2: I mean I love you as well. Matthew, Thank you, Okay,

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Speaker 2: I'll see you soon.

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Speaker 3: I love you, Tori.

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Speaker 5: Darren Martin, how are you good doing?

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Speaker 2: Dude?

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Speaker 4: Where are you in the in the kitchen setup of

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Speaker 4: your your nine o two one oh thing or is

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Speaker 4: that your proper room.

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Speaker 5: Oh this is just like the home office that's been

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Speaker 5: converted into the nine o two one oh museum.

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Speaker 2: Dude, that's so crazy.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, look at young me.

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Speaker 2: Right behind you there over your shoe. So for people

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Speaker 2: that don't know.

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Speaker 2: So how how is it for you being on this?

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Speaker 4: I mean, this is you. You already you were on

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Speaker 5: Okay, it's funny. I actually came to love nine O

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Speaker 5: I was at a book fair in grade eight. Do

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Speaker 5: You're like Jimney Croocket right there.

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Speaker 5: A couple of years in yeah, years. In The first

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Speaker 5: Yeah, because that was like I think like episode eighty something,

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Speaker 2: That's crazy, that's amazing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so what I know, you've you've been friends now

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Speaker 2: This is talking about a person that we know. Yes,

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Speaker 4: So I've I feel like, what better way of cheering

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Speaker 2: How about it? This is if this was a message

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Speaker 5: She's Yeah. Over the years, she's it blows my mind

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Speaker 5: the news or like somebody's in a movie or something,

443
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 5: I get like three or four text from different people

444
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 5: friends of mine. They're like, oh, this is on. I'm like, yeah,

445
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 5: I'm totally aware that this.

446
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,919
Speaker 2: Is a totally yeah. Have you talked to anyone I did?

447
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 4: I actually talked to Brian last night. He was yeah, yeah,

448
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 4: that's that's got to be a trip.

449
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,920
Speaker 5: That's really it's a trip. It's I don't even have to. Like,

450
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,200
Speaker 5: I know, I keep using the words surreal, but my

451
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 5: brain can't use I can't think of any other word

452
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 5: that adequately describes how far out it is. Like if

453
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 5: fourteen year old me would have known back then, when

454
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 5: the show was in its heyday, that I would actually

455
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 5: know you guys and be friends with you guys and

456
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,880
Speaker 5: just communicate with you guys instead of like writing fan

457
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 5: letters like I used to. Yeah, it's just it's unfathomable,

458
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 5: Like I can't wrap my head around it.

459
00:26:56,119 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 4: It's it's uh, it's like a really amazing reminder of

460
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 4: even though this world is incredibly large and the population

461
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 4: is massive, how small it can still be because I

462
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 4: think like minded people attract like minded people. So it's again,

463
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,880
Speaker 4: it's like I said to you before, it's no surprise

464
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 4: to me knowing Tory as well as I do that

465
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 4: you that you two became friends and now you are

466
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 4: friends with all of us the.

467
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 2: Way you are.

468
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 5: It's not You're going to make me cry. Dude.

469
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,199
Speaker 4: When I hear that I'm going somewhere and You're going

470
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 4: to be at the convention, it's like Darren's gonna be

471
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 4: That's fucking awesome, Like it's you know, it's it's a

472
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 4: celebration on on our side too, because we know how

473
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 4: fucking lucky we are to have someone that is as

474
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 4: passionate about the show, you know.

475
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 2: And that's that's the thing that that I'm aware of,

476
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 2: is that like, as as as fun as it is

477
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 2: for you to be around me, it's that passion of

478
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,160
Speaker 2: the show. Like the show was this thing.

479
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 4: And I wish that we were all friends during the

480
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 4: time when we were making the show, because you for

481
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,399
Speaker 4: sure would have been by set and hanging out and

482
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 4: doing all that. But it was amazing to be in

483
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 4: Vancouver and to have you be a part of that.

484
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 4: That was that was really cool. And that is uh,

485
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 4: that's I've seen that picture before from fans of like,

486
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 4: you know, oh this was yeah exactly there you know,

487
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 4: yeah on the mug and then just the one of

488
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 4: like when they were shooting your close ups and everything

489
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 4: and it was just you and the crowd.

490
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 2: It was really cool. Yeah, So dude, thank you so

491
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 2: much for being here.

492
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 4: If you wanted just a quick message to to Tori

493
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 4: just before before you go anything.

494
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, totally, toy. You know, I love you and I'm

495
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 5: thinking of you and I'm hoping you feel better really

496
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 5: soon and get back to your normal chaotic life which

497
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 5: you strive. You strive with chaos. You've always said that,

498
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 5: and I believe it, and I hope you're doing well

499
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 5: and feeling better and I just love you and uh

500
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 5: thinking about you.

501
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 2: Ah, dude, Darren Martin, you're the man. So so good

502
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 2: to see you, brother. Yeah, nice, and you talk soon.

503
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 2: But Randy Spelling, what's here? We are, Brian, we are.

504
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 2: How you doing fantastic? So this is so your sister

505
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 2: is uh is sick, she's not feeling great.

506
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so.

507
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 4: So iHeart asked me to kind of step up and

508
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 4: take over for her for a couple of weeks while

509
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 4: she's recovering, which we want her to do, like we

510
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 4: really want her to take the time recover, get you know,

511
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 4: get aheads up. I'm I'm assuming she's learned by this

512
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 4: at fifty two that drinking diet doctor pepper all day

513
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 4: long instead of water is not really the way to go.

514
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 2: And that's the low hanging fruit, right, that's the like

515
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 2: that is water is the low hanging drink. You drink water.

516
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 4: It's like, you know, if they're into the environment, you

517
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 4: don't use plastic straws like it's just one of those

518
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 4: like it's one of those simple fixes.

519
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 2: So here we are we uh, I know she is,

520
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,719
Speaker 2: like she's detoxing with the family.

521
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 4: You know, they're still dealing with some residual stuff from

522
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 4: the mold that she dealt with before.

523
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 2: There's a whole bunch of stuff. So I figured I

524
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 2: had the idea.

525
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 4: Of, like, why don't we make this a celebration of

526
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 4: Tory instead of me trying to step in and do

527
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 4: what Toy does, because Toy is very unique in what

528
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 4: she does. She you know, uh, I will not talk

529
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 4: to William Shatner about anal. That's just no place that

530
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go, yeah, exactly. So so

531
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 4: I was like, okay, fair, So what is a what

532
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 4: is a good way then for this to this to

533
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 4: accomplish what it is they want and kind of paid

534
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 4: tribute to her and I, you know, she has so

535
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 4: positively affected so many people in her life, and I

536
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 4: think it would just be great for her to be

537
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 4: able to sit down and watch this and go, oh man,

538
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 4: this was really cool. All of these people reaching out

539
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 4: talking to Brian doing this kind of sit down thing. So, uh,

540
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 4: that's why you're here, because you nobody knows Toy better

541
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 4: than you do. I mean, you know, I like I

542
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 4: know Toy pretty well. Yeah, because it's been from a

543
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 4: young age.

544
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: You have been around, She's been in your life, your

545
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: entire life, so I've seen it all.

546
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 2: So yeah, what are your What are some of the

547
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 2: things that growing up watching Toy?

548
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 4: What are some of the things that you really picked

549
00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 4: up from her that have carried through into your adult life.

550
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 1: Hmmm, gosh, there's so many things. I mean, she is

551
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 1: five years older, and so I was the little brother

552
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 1: who idolized my older sister and wanted to, you know,

553
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 1: be cool and dress cool. So I copied so many

554
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 1: things from how she dressed and how she talked to

555
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: She was always I don't know if people know this

556
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 1: about Tori, but she was always a really good writer.

557
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: She was super creative. She always drew figures and dreads

558
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 1: like she was she was a pretty good artist. She

559
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: was just very, very very creative, and I think we

560
00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 1: all had that. Our dad had that in many ways,

561
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: you know, producing shows and writing as well. My mom

562
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: had that, She's done so many different things, and Tory

563
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: very much had that. So something that I always wanted

564
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 1: to carry with me is the wave that she would

565
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: create in the world. And so that was one of

566
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 1: the things, like that she would write poems, right, and

567
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 1: then we ended up writing our parents' anniversary poems and

568
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 1: my mom still has them framed around the house. And

569
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say there was competition, but also healthy competition.

570
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 2: There was healthy competition. I would assume.

571
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 4: Competition of like, you know, not that I'm gonna like

572
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 4: outdo you because you suck and I'm better than you,

573
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,239
Speaker 4: but like, hey, this is let's see who can come

574
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 4: up with some cooler things. And then you guys would

575
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 4: sort of cheer each other on and do that. I

576
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 4: would assume, yeah, well, a.

577
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 1: Little rise to the occasion situation, right, like oh she

578
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 1: wrote that for the anniversary. Wow, when she framed it,

579
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 1: and that was really good, So you know, next year

580
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 1: I'll do something. It was kind of like that. Yeah,

581
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 1: And then interestingly enough humor, so Tori start you would

582
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 1: know this better than me. There was a time on

583
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 1: the show where she started to find her comedic timing

584
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 1: and her voice, and she infused more of that into

585
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: Donna Martin. Sure, and when she did that, because she

586
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 1: was always funny. She always had that side to her,

587
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 1: but she started to play around with that more just

588
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 1: in life and bring that out. So her and I

589
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 1: always had this funny banter, especially when I got older

590
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 1: and I started to know who I was and she

591
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: was sort of more rooted in who she was. We'd

592
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 1: play around with humor and I would I would see

593
00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 1: her just socially being her more and using her humor

594
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: in situations, either to diffuse or people would come up

595
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 1: on the street and she would make jokes. And you know,

596
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:12,879
Speaker 1: because you both have this, you're so caring with people,

597
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 1: so good with people, whether they're fans or people that

598
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 1: you talk to, you both always try to make them

599
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 1: feel good and you know, lift them up again. So

600
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: I watched her do that, and that was a piece

601
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,720
Speaker 1: I feel like, I you know, a bits and pieces

602
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 1: like ooh, I like that. I'm gonna I'm gonna take

603
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 1: that with me.

604
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 2: Ooh, I like that.

605
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: And that was one of them. Is her ability to

606
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 1: use humor while connecting with others.

607
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 4: Do you do you feel like that is something then

608
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 4: that has carried into your professional life. I mean, being

609
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 4: a life coach, you have to connect with people on

610
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 4: a very human.

611
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 2: Level. And make people feel comfortable in opening up to you.

612
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 4: So is that is that a skill that had carried

613
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:04,720
Speaker 4: over into that or has it sort of been separate

614
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 4: where you're like, no, I've got to I've got to

615
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 4: keep it a little more PG and a little more.

616
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 2: Right up the middle for my clients and.

617
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: That well, I will say this, our humor is different,

618
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,760
Speaker 1: okay the way sure like I wouldn't.

619
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 4: Also, she had William Shatter on and and she talked

620
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 4: about anal like let's you know, like, let's write very

621
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 4: very different.

622
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 1: But Tory is willing to go there and ruffle feathers.

623
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 1: I mean, that is one thing that I appreciate about her.

624
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: She's willing to get in there and have those conversations

625
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: where it's just not as much my style. But she

626
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 1: can be a rule breaker, And I think I was

627
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 1: always the one where I didn't want to break the

628
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,439
Speaker 1: rules and I wanted to follow exactly this is being

629
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,439
Speaker 1: told how it is and what to do. And she'd

630
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 1: be like no, And I look at her and go,

631
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,800
Speaker 1: what do you mean, right? No, Randy, why do you

632
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 1: think that is?

633
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 2: Because that's not like her. If you look at her.

634
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 4: The things that she normally does, like what is sort

635
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 4: of in her wheel that is not She's not normally

636
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 4: someone that crosses people or is in the confrontation in

637
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:26,399
Speaker 4: any way. So what is it about then that side

638
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 4: where she feels you think she feels free to be

639
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 4: that way.

640
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: That's a good question because there's a real juxtaposition I

641
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 1: think inside of her as the people please her and

642
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: we both have that, but then this other side where

643
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 1: she's like, I'm not going to be told what to

644
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 1: do or how to do it. I want to do

645
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 1: it my way, and following that, and I think there's

646
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: probably a battle there a lot of I.

647
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 2: Don't want to hurt anyone.

648
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 1: I don't want to confront this, I don't want to

649
00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:01,320
Speaker 1: deal with something that's really uncomfortable. But also that comes

650
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: out of you know, I don't I don't want to

651
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: hurt someone. So I don't think her her breaking the

652
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 1: rules comes out of a place of I'm doing this

653
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 1: because I'm gonna hurt anyone or it's gonna affect anyone negatively, right,

654
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 1: For sure, I think it's more of there are certain

655
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: times where she has her certainty where she's like, no,

656
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,320
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna do this, and she goes with it.

657
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 2: Toy. Tori has a really unique way of.

658
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 4: Being self deprecating enough to where when she does push

659
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 4: for something she wants, she's so.

660
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 2: Like outwardly.

661
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 4: Opposes herself in general that you kind of feel like

662
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 4: you want to give her the win on this, Like

663
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 4: it's very it's very smart what she does. Like she

664
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 4: it's I think she learned at an early at an

665
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 4: early age with the I don't know if it was

666
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,479
Speaker 4: with the show, with you know, finding an audience, because

667
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 4: I know she had she was up against a lot.

668
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 4: I mean, she honestly is one of the first NEPO

669
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 4: babies you really look at that like was that was

670
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 4: so thrown in her face and so thrown around. I

671
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 4: think she figured out a way though, of being comfortable

672
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 4: in who she wanted to be and then making it

673
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,800
Speaker 4: seem like I'm a mess, so just give you this

674
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 4: little bit of something that makes me feel comfortable. So

675
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 4: people went, Okay, yeah, we'll give you a little space,

676
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 4: you know, we'll let we'll let you run a little bit.

677
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it very well could be. I mean, I

678
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 2: don't know if it was so predetermined.

679
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I don't think it's I don't think it's

680
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 4: premeditated at all. I think it's like sub some subconscious thing. Yeah,

681
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 4: but it's you know, like you're subconscious when you when

682
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 4: you figure out how to get away with things, then

683
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:56,240
Speaker 4: you're then it starts becoming autopilot for you. Like she's

684
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 4: she's very much on autopilot in a lot of ways

685
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 4: because she figured out what kind of gets her, what

686
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 4: what she means.

687
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's amazing, it's amazing. She's so fun to be around.

688
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 2: She is, she's.

689
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: Soused that she is a fun person, and it's it's

690
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:14,359
Speaker 1: really interesting. I tell her this a lot of how

691
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 1: magnetic she is. I don't think she realizes and sees

692
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 1: herself as accurately as some other people do, because I've

693
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 1: been around her where I just I you know, I

694
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 1: watch I watch people, and I watch her. Yeah, and

695
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 1: people are drawn to her. It's not just the celebrity

696
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 1: or them knowing her. She has this magnetism and likability

697
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 1: that I'm sure was really hard to see yourself accurately.

698
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: When she did get so much of the Aaron Spelling's daughter,

699
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: and she only has this job because of him, I mean,

700
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 1: she really got it pretty rough.

701
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, she had she had to really create above and

702
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 4: beyond a reason why she was there where people would go, oh,

703
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 4: nobody else could have delivered this in this way, like

704
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 4: it had nothing to do with the fact that it

705
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 4: was Aaron's daughter, like it was. She had to she

706
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 4: had a lot to prove to people. But god, what

707
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 4: what an amazing job she did. Shannon used to always

708
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 4: say that nobody in her life made her laugh the

709
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 4: way your sister did. Nobody Shannon would laugh in a

710
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 4: certain way where it just like, because Tory says things

711
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 4: that are so dumb funny, sometimes you're like, oh, my god,

712
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 4: I can't believe that you just.

713
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 2: Said that, and you just went there again.

714
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 4: William Shatner and anal like, that's just a weird that's

715
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:44,280
Speaker 4: a combination that you wouldn't normally put together.

716
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 1: You know, Hey, so you saw Shannon and Tory together?

717
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 1: Could would you watch that happen?

718
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 2: Yeah? All the time?

719
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 4: It was, And it was really great to see because

720
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 4: they didn't they hadn't spoken for a while when the

721
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:01,320
Speaker 4: show was done and Shannon went and was doing Charmed,

722
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 4: and then when that was done, and then Shannon was

723
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 4: kind of on her own, and then we all got

724
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:10,879
Speaker 4: together again for the reboot and Shannon and Tory really

725
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:16,959
Speaker 4: reconnected again, and it was so great to watch Shan

726
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 4: enjoy that relationship and see the things where I was like, god,

727
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 4: I remember when I was like eighteen and nineteen on set,

728
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 4: and that's exactly what I would see when we would

729
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,439
Speaker 4: all be like going out to Roxbury and just being

730
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 4: kids and like going out.

731
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 2: It was the it was they picked up where they

732
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,359
Speaker 2: left off. It was really it was really cool to see.

733
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 1: I'm happy to hear that from Shannon's side because I

734
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:44,320
Speaker 1: saw from Tory's side reconnecting with Shannon what an impact

735
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:45,359
Speaker 1: that had on her.

736
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the reminder of the.

737
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 1: Strength that Shannon held and exuded, and what a great

738
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 1: role model that was for Tory to be like, oh oh,

739
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 1: I forgot because Shannon would just remind her, like, Toy,

740
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 1: you are you are strong, own it and.

741
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 4: It's such an important time in her life too. Like you,

742
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 4: it's to me, there are no coincidences. Everything happens the

743
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:16,800
Speaker 4: way they're supposed to. And to look at the fact

744
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 4: that Shannon Tory reconnect reconnected when they did, and then

745
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 4: Tory now is single with the kids and all that,

746
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 4: but she is in this place now of like really

747
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 4: figuring out how to take control of what it is

748
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 4: she wants and realizing that the buck stops at her,

749
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:40,280
Speaker 4: that there is nobody that she can point the finger

750
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 4: at anymore or no. And that's so much that I

751
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 4: know came from Shannon, because Shannon was always the one

752
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 4: that was like, stop fucking doing what you're doing. Like

753
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 4: she was very blunt about it, but she was blunt

754
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 4: because she cared, like it wasn't it wasn't just her

755
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,359
Speaker 4: being difficult, it was that was how. That was one

756
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 4: of the ways that Shannon was such an amazing friend

757
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,399
Speaker 4: to both of us. So it's so cool to see

758
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 4: Toy now going into the world with the much more

759
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:16,320
Speaker 4: responsible outlook on all of it. Like she's the choices

760
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,760
Speaker 4: that she's making now, She's like, no, these are choices

761
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,760
Speaker 4: because I want to set myself up for the second

762
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 4: act of my life, Like I want to do this

763
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:24,399
Speaker 4: the right way.

764
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.

765
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: Some of my favorite things to watch my girls and

766
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: I will look at it, or her cooking video she'll

767
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 1: share she's excited to make a recipe and I know

768
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 1: it's so simple and ridiculous, but her and I, I'll

769
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 1: cook something and I'll go, what do you think of

770
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 1: this what do you think it is? And we sort

771
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 1: of toggle back and forth, and it's just fun at

772
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: this stage of life that you know she's there when

773
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: she can cooking and making these meals and enjoying that

774
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:59,720
Speaker 1: part with the kids at this point because we connected

775
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: over food so much from childhood. That was one thing

776
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 1: that was always front and center was food.

777
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 2: Who do you think is the better cook of you two?

778
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 1: I think we should see I think there should be

779
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 1: an episode somewhere somehow where we go down and she

780
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:20,879
Speaker 1: makes a meal and I make a meal.

781
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 4: Because I don't know how to answer that. So so

782
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 4: then that's something that we uh that we try and

783
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 4: set up this year. We try and set up a

784
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 4: live cooking challenge between you two and we'll pick what

785
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,800
Speaker 4: we'll have. Yeah, we'll have someone come in though that

786
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 4: is a true chef like Curtis Stone or somebody like that,

787
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 4: to taste tests between the two and give their honest

788
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 4: opinion of which one is better.

789
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 2: My heart's beating fast. I'm so excited. I want to

790
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 2: show your heart techniques.

791
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 4: We'll see, we'll see if we can get some cookware

792
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 4: from Gordon Ramsay. Yes, that hex cloud is fantastic. Yeah

793
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:01,280
Speaker 4: you like the hex Clad I know. Yeah, yeah, we'll

794
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,359
Speaker 4: run that and uh and we'll do something really fun

795
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 4: that way. Dude, your sister loves you to death, which

796
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 4: I is totally understandable. She is absolutely in awe of

797
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 4: who you've become and the way you care yourself and

798
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 4: the way you are with your kids and your wife

799
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:25,800
Speaker 4: and your life. And and then I know that she

800
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,720
Speaker 4: just means the world to you. I've seen you two together,

801
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 4: so I think it's amazing. Thank you for coming on

802
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 4: and doing this. I hope she enjoys watching this little bit,

803
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 4: this little slice of insanity we get, we get a

804
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 4: bunch of these.

805
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 2: I've got a couple more, a couple more people I

806
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 2: want to hit up. Yeah, slices of insanity. I love it. Yeah,

807
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,320
Speaker 2: thank you for asking me to do this.

808
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 1: And the challenge is on.

809
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 2: Oh dude, the challenge is no, we're going to do this,

810
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,359
Speaker 2: the challenges. We're going to do this for sure. Yeah. Yeah,

811
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 2: I love you man. Good to see you too, brother.

812
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 2: All right later