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Speaker 1: knob Off Uh, we have the best NFL story of

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Speaker 1: the day and the most expensive NFL story of the day.

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Speaker 1: Dealer with choice, Mike Harman, which one you want to

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Speaker 1: do first? You know I love business. The buggestive sport

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Speaker 1: intrigues me to no end. Well, let's go to dollars

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Speaker 1: and cents. What if the well you sound like you're

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Speaker 1: I'll take dollars and cents for fifty please, Alex.

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Speaker 2: What if it's what if it's a story about.

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Speaker 1: Losing a lot of money? Well, even better, then it's

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Speaker 1: we can point and mock. Okay, So kind of a

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Speaker 1: shocker because despite the fact they have now hit forty

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Speaker 1: four million subscribers, the streaming service Peacock, which you remember,

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Speaker 1: gives you all the NBA games that you know, we.

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Speaker 2: Get you know, very very late at night.

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Speaker 1: Late at night, deep into the night, and does it

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Speaker 1: auto serve you a show afterwards? I like, do you

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Speaker 1: get the latest SVU or or something like that.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that you do. I know you do.

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Speaker 2: Judging by this story, I don't think you do. Well.

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Speaker 1: You'd think you'd like to auto autopie stack together if

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Speaker 1: someone's falling asleep. I believe this is the only streaming

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Speaker 1: service that has sports as as a part of the parv.

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Speaker 2: It's arm that has lost money.

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Speaker 1: Quarterly losses for Peacock shot up to over half a

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Speaker 1: billion dollars. Comcast revealed in its quarterly earnings call on Thursday,

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Speaker 1: they reported losses of five hundred and fifty million dollars

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Speaker 1: during the fourth quarter of twenty twenty five. Now why

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Speaker 1: is this a big deal, Because according to reports, the

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Speaker 1: reason for this loss is money that was spent for

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Speaker 1: NBA rights and the NFL games from this year. That's

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Speaker 1: why they are now five hundred and fifty million dollars

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Speaker 1: live programming. Peacock gets in on it and gets what

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Speaker 1: they lost half a billion dollars on the NFL and

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Speaker 1: the NBA.

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Speaker 2: Well, a couple things about it.

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Speaker 1: First off holiday holiday holiday folks might have had other

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Speaker 2: Sorry, when you talk about the NFL game.

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Speaker 1: As for the NBA, we've talked about the the product

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Speaker 1: lot of great games. Tonight we had Mark Aguire get

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Speaker 1: the Rookies and everything else. But you you're getting a

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Speaker 1: lesser package overall, right, because it's late at night, it's

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Speaker 1: usually lesser games. Most of the Marquee stuffs going to

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Speaker 1: ABC ESPN. So you're you're still just getting your your

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Speaker 2: No, no, that's gonna cost you a bit more. I mean.

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Speaker 1: The thing is is Peacock has never made money, and

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Speaker 1: it's stunning. Their losses were in like the eight hundred

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Speaker 1: But this is what you watch that on Apple Plus.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't help the people at Peacock. What it shows

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Speaker 1: And instead here they are five five hundred and fifty

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Speaker 2: Then the sports fees are at the at the head

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Speaker 1: I mean really it's I used to think that streaming

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Speaker 1: But I always thought that, you know what, there's gonna

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Speaker 1: But instead, when I see stories like this and I

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Speaker 2: Through the conversation here.

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Speaker 1: You have things that are lost leaders that you just say, Okay,

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lose the Costco chick because I like

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Speaker 1: No no, But the point is they're being sued because they

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Speaker 1: getting a free chicken before It's all so okay. I

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Speaker 1: what do you do. You go grab one of those.

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Speaker 1: You fight people who are loading up their cart with

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Speaker 1: If you just fed me the skin off of that

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Speaker 1: While I filibuster and talk for a moment here. But

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Speaker 1: it's the idea that you have a product that gets

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Speaker 1: and you're gonna buy a bunch of other crack. Right.

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Speaker 1: It's it's the steel second base promotion at Taco Bell

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Speaker 1: taco please. Yeah, there might be one in a thousand

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Speaker 1: And whether that gets or not. I really thought you

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Speaker 2: chicken now. The best NFL story of the day.

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Speaker 1: There's the most expensive NFL story of the day, the

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Speaker 1: best NFL story of the day. The Eagles finally have

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Speaker 1: the guy that I guarantee you the average NFL fan

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Speaker 1: it's Sean Manyon.

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Speaker 1: how does Kenny loft and only get three point five

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Speaker 1: many Sean Manyon, Is he still the backup of Jared No, no,

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Speaker 1: And he is someone that I love this move simply because, well, simbly,

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Speaker 2: Bill Belichicken get in the whole.

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Speaker 1: No one voted not enough. At least a eleven said no.

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Speaker 2: So everybody's looking for villains. Everyone's looking for villains. The

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Speaker 1: Day three of Bill Belichick not a first ballot Pro

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Speaker 1: I can't believe it's it's this big of a deal

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Speaker 2: Why wouldn't you make yourself known. You're making us all

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Speaker 1: Who's responsible for Belichick not getting in the Hall of Fame?

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Speaker 1: Right there's two places you can say, where does a

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Speaker 2: He was the.

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Speaker 1: Second person to say, Hey, I'm part of the Belichick eleven,

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Speaker 1: That's what it is. Because it's so complex that when

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Speaker 1: if they had the opportunity to vote for I could

437
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Speaker 1: vote for the players, and I could vote for Belichicken

438
00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:22,680
Speaker 1: break Yeah, I vote for both of them, and Craft

439
00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:24,920
Speaker 1: not Brady. If I vote for Bellichicken Craft, I vote

440
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Speaker 1: for both of them. So the process is what you

441
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Speaker 1: really want to be mad at because it is too complex,

442
00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,639
Speaker 1: and let's fix that, right, Because you want to make

443
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Speaker 1: sure you're getting the best people in the Hall of

444
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Speaker 1: Fame in the timely process, and you can't always do it.

445
00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,440
Speaker 1: It's not going to be perfect. But the biggest thing

446
00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,080
Speaker 1: to say is if the process is what's broken. And

447
00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:45,560
Speaker 1: this is kind of what the voters that have talked

448
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Speaker 1: about are saying without saying it, at least that's what

449
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Speaker 1: I draw from it. They're saying when they say I

450
00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:53,879
Speaker 1: have to explain the process to you. You know, that's like, okay,

451
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Speaker 1: there's a caveat here. This is not just as simple

452
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Speaker 1: as that, because we would be doing it differently. So

453
00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:01,840
Speaker 1: the fact that that's what they want everybody to know

454
00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,240
Speaker 1: tells me that this is what needs to be changed,

455
00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,760
Speaker 1: to be doing it differently than this, so you avoid

456
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Speaker 1: the embarrassment of boy, here's the best head coach and

457
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Speaker 1: he hasn't ever seen he's not in the Hall of Fame.

458
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

459
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Speaker 2: The other is never let it go to the judges.

460
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Speaker 1: And when you've got spygate and deflate gate, well, to

461
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Speaker 1: your point yesterday and all week of the you know,

462
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Speaker 1: you got a percentage of folks that just might say

463
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Speaker 1: I don't like the guy, And all it takes is

464
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Speaker 1: one of every five to just go I really didn't

465
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Speaker 1: like Bill. Now maybe he tried to win him back

466
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Speaker 1: with the girlfriend, going to college, all of those things,

467
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Speaker 1: his appearance on.

468
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Speaker 2: Those celebration shows. But all of it to say that

469
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Speaker 2: when we go back into.

470
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Speaker 1: A category that here are the players, and to take

471
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Speaker 1: your Baseball Hall of Fame example, you're comparing baseball players

472
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Speaker 1: to baseball players, the contributors and all of that. That's

473
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Speaker 1: considered by a whole other group of people, the Veterans Committee.

474
00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:58,000
Speaker 1: That's a whole other thing, but it's still apples to apples.

475
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Speaker 1: It's still baseball players. It's across different time time frames

476
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:06,000
Speaker 1: in baseball history. So you're trying to make, you know,

477
00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:09,480
Speaker 1: some considerations for that. But for the NFL that we

478
00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 1: get to this point where we lump in, here are

479
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:16,359
Speaker 1: your three veteran players who again haven't played football. I

480
00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:18,159
Speaker 1: mean Roger Craig was the last of them to retire.

481
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:22,480
Speaker 1: That was nineteen ninety three. You've got Robert Kraft teams

482
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Speaker 1: going back to the Super Bowl. His team was part

483
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Speaker 1: of all the said scandals that Belichick has been involved in,

484
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 1: but he helped build the league by being an influential

485
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Speaker 1: owner and making everybody billions of dollars in their airgo

486
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Speaker 1: keeping everybody employed writing and talking about said lead, whereas

487
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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick and be goes we'll get him next year,

488
00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:50,320
Speaker 1: which to me that really still is problematic that it's like, ah, whatever,

489
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Speaker 1: he'll get there. Yeah, it's like he's a Hall of

490
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Speaker 1: Famer or he isn't, or he's a guy that we

491
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Speaker 1: need to debate more, not just a I didn't vote

492
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Speaker 1: for him this year because ah, hell back out of

493
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Speaker 1: the ballot and I can do.

494
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Speaker 2: It next year.

495
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 1: Like well, no, Like, if you're just this guy's the

496
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Speaker 1: most decorated coach of all time, if you decided he's done, like,

497
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 1: that's where the process really breaks down. I'm like, all right,

498
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Speaker 1: how is there not no matter what, a spot for him. Well,

499
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Speaker 1: it's interesting you bring that up, because this is the

500
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Speaker 1: second part of who you want to be mad at,

501
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 1: who the villain is, because the other people to blame

502
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 1: blame yourself.

503
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 2: Yeah no, because because.

504
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:30,119
Speaker 1: And I mean the the people that are upset about it,

505
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:34,920
Speaker 1: blame yourself. Because what's obvious by the by the voters here,

506
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 1: they don't care as much about putting a guy in

507
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Speaker 1: the first ballot as much as they care about getting

508
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Speaker 1: the people in they feel need to get in, right,

509
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 1: because what if what have we heard from from from

510
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 1: these people. I wanted to make sure Bob Craft got in.

511
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,919
Speaker 1: I wanted to make sure that these retired players, this

512
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,680
Speaker 1: is their last chance, Ken Anderson's last chance, right. Uh,

513
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 1: it's it's last chance for L. C. Greenwood, last chance

514
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 1: for Roger Kreig. I wanted to make sure that they

515
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Speaker 1: got in. Voters aren't looking at the every year as

516
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,719
Speaker 1: if this is the year. Here are the candidates. I'm

517
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,440
Speaker 1: putting the best people in. They know they've been doing

518
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,159
Speaker 1: this for a while, or they understand the merits, and

519
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 1: they understand the assignment, which is, let's make sure over

520
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 1: the course of our time as voters, we get as

521
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:22,920
Speaker 1: many deserving people in the Hall of Fame as possible, players, owners, coaches.

522
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 1: So they're not looking at this like, hey, this year,

523
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Speaker 1: Belichier's got to go in and oh, by the way,

524
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,920
Speaker 1: because they don't some of them don't want these guys

525
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,479
Speaker 1: falling off the bout not getting a chance, right. So

526
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 1: looking at from that, you understand that, Okay, they're thinking

527
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,639
Speaker 1: of things with a longer vision and a longer lens.

528
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Speaker 1: Because Jason Cole when he stops by with us. He

529
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Speaker 1: talked to us last week about Eli Manning and Philip

530
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Speaker 1: Rivers and he said, you know, I think they're going

531
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Speaker 1: to get in at some point, but he's talking about

532
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 1: different cycles, three and four years down the line. He's

533
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Speaker 1: as well, three years from now, when the quarterback core

534
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 1: isn't going to be that big, that's gonna be Eli's

535
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 1: best chance. Philip Rivers now pushes it by five years,

536
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,159
Speaker 1: so we have to wait for him because you know,

537
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 1: who knows when Rogers will stop and everything else. But

538
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 1: like he's looking at in three years, this is a

539
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 1: chance for these guys to get it. That's when we

540
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 1: have to get these guys into the Hall of Fame.

541
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 1: So all the voters have the people they want and

542
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,200
Speaker 1: they believe that should get in the Hall of Fame.

543
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 1: They don't care as much about first ballot as much

544
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Speaker 1: as they care about getting the guys in. And you

545
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 1: know that because of the care that some of them

546
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 1: are talking about with some of these players, right, these

547
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,200
Speaker 1: are guys all been covering the NFL for forty years.

548
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,119
Speaker 1: These are the guys that showed up in two thousand

549
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 1: when mo Lewis hit Drew Bledsoe and all of a sudden,

550
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,440
Speaker 1: Tom Brady comes in and boy, look, Belichick's a genius. Right,

551
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,160
Speaker 1: these guys are going back to when else Green was? Hey,

552
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 1: what was he? How important of a linebacker was he

553
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:45,880
Speaker 1: with the steel curtain?

554
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 2: Right does he? Why does he fall behind Jack Hammond?

555
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 2: Jack Lambert?

556
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:49,439
Speaker 1: Right?

557
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:50,640
Speaker 2: Where is he is?

558
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 1: He?

559
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 2: Was he better than mel Blunt? Was he more big?

560
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:53,239
Speaker 3: Like?

561
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 1: That's what these guys are debating, and that's what they think.

562
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Speaker 1: So to understand that, really the only person that's got

563
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,199
Speaker 1: a big problem with is because yeah, what are they

564
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 1: all saying? Belichick is gonna get in?

565
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 2: Now?

566
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,120
Speaker 1: We all think that we're saying that because it's gonna

567
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,199
Speaker 1: be a year protest from them, I'll vote for him

568
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 1: in a year. But when you hear Gregorian and and

569
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 1: and Chapel say he'll get in next year, like they're thinking,

570
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 1: I'm they're thinking of the philosophy of well, next year,

571
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 1: when we don't have to choose from these three guys

572
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 1: and Bob craft Is and whatever, it's gonna be easier

573
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Speaker 1: to vote him in next year because of what the

574
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Speaker 1: what the the the sheet looks like of who's getting

575
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Speaker 1: in this year and who is not, so that's really

576
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Speaker 1: the two things you want to say.

577
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 2: Who are the villains in this?

578
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,679
Speaker 1: It's okay you can blame the process and blame yourself

579
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 1: because you're the only ones to think, well, the guy's

580
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 1: got to get his a first ballot, right, guy gets

581
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame as Hall of Famer, it

582
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. We want to have the big differential. Well

583
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 1: this guy was and not. You know, this guy's unanimous

584
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 1: first ballot. But hall of Famer is still a Hall

585
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 1: of Famer. They don't say you in and say yeah.

586
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 1: And of course remember Ken Anderson, who was a last gas,

587
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 1: last ditch, last chance hotel Hall of Fame in twenty

588
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 1: twenty five. Nobody says it that way. Yeah, the last verson.

589
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 1: He's still be doctor. And the same thing here.

590
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 2: No matter when you get in, you're a Hall of Famer.

591
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 1: And certainly folks have taken aim at many of my

592
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:15,919
Speaker 1: White Sox Hall of famers Baines and Andrew Jones, amongst others.

593
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 2: You didn't even laugh, but because I.

594
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 1: Was thinking about can I get into my my laughing

595
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 1: at you? Because you signed Jared Kellnick today, I don't

596
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 1: think he's making much. It'll be okay, I knew that

597
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,159
Speaker 1: was happening. He's gonna be starting in left field for

598
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 1: you and hitting third. Oh no, it could be.

599
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 2: I mean that could spends laughing think about that. No, no, no,

600
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 2: I take it all with the grain of salt. You

601
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 2: lost pien Alonzo, You'll win like four games. I'm laughing

602
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 2: like I'm in the theater with Max Katie. Why I'm

603
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 2: case smoking.

604
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 1: A cigarette cigar and just hanging out. But that whole

605
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 1: grid of I've got to have this five year plan

606
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 1: of how voting is a problem. The fact that you

607
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 1: do have most of these folks and even Jason Golden

608
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 1: himself as one of the old guys, yes, is that

609
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 1: you do have the electorate is folks that have been

610
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: watching forty years, which is good, but it also is

611
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 1: not quite the different lens right to take the perspective

612
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,679
Speaker 1: of folks that have been at it maybe the last

613
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 1: ten years, maybe look at the game a little differently

614
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,640
Speaker 1: on all of those things, and you decide how much

615
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,120
Speaker 1: you love or hate that. The change that they made

616
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 1: with the bylaws to where coaches only wait a year.

617
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 1: Jimmy Johnson went off of that and his expletive tirades

618
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 1: about that. But you think about the coaches that are

619
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 1: piling up as well. Right, you got backlogs everywhere based

620
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 1: on how you've done this, And now you start looking

621
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 1: at the future classes. Some automatic guys, guys like Adrian Peterson,

622
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 1: But does Zeno take off the field so he gets in,

623
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 1: Gronkowski and Breeze and Fitzgerald and all these guys walk in.

624
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 1: So there's only so many spots available for the rest

625
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 1: of them. And when we get to these contributors and coaches,

626
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 1: like the worst thing is they and they tried to

627
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: bring it up with Greenwood, like he's not even gonna

628
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: be there, right, and and all all of those And

629
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 1: for me, Steve McMichael going in from a hospital bed

630
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 1: with people around him, when not only was the guy

631
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer thirty years prior, who's.

632
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 2: A member of the Four Horsemen, ad Rick Flair do

633
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 2: his speech.

634
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 1: Exit out bout of Fresca, Exit swallow Dome. So you

635
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 1: want who the villains are, Bill Belichick not getting in?

636
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 1: Those are your villains. Time not to find out what's

637
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 1: trending in the wide world of sports. So someone who

638
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 1: will tell you that her favorite of Rachel's boyfriends on

639
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 1: Friends was Ross but it was really Paulo Carol.

640
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 5: You know, I didn't love Paolo, I'm not gonna lie,

641
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 5: but I did like.

642
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 2: I like josh Ua, Joshua, josh Ua, josh Ua Joshua,

643
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 2: and of course Brad Pittott. Yeah yeah, but they weren't

644
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.

645
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 1: Of course, I think there's actually didn't they They were

646
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 1: dating when he agreed to do it, and they had

647
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 1: woken up by the time they filmed the episode.

648
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 2: No, No, I don't think so. I think they were

649
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 2: still together.

650
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 5: I also think josh Ua and her were dating, and

651
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 5: that's why that guy was on the show like at

652
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 5: the time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, So all I had to do was date

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Speaker 2: one of them men on the show. That's all you

655
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Speaker 2: had to do. See, you missed an opportunity. I would

656
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Speaker 2: have dated Missus Geller to get on the show.

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Speaker 5: Judy Geller. Yeah yeah, yeah, he would just show he

658
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Speaker 5: was early, Oh yeah, very early on right.

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Speaker 2: He stalked Phoebe. Yeah yeah, he stalked Phoebe.

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Speaker 5: It all comes back, guys, at all. It's like a rolodex.

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Speaker 5: I just got to go through the seasons and figure

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Speaker 5: it out. Uh. This match between Carlos Akraz and Alexander

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Speaker 5: z Vedev may go five hours. They just in the

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Speaker 5: first set, Alcaaz won it. The second set, Alcaz just

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Speaker 5: tied it at six games apiece, so they're in a tiebreak.

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Speaker 5: And I know the tie breaks are different depending on

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Speaker 5: the tournament, but I think at the Million Open it's

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Speaker 5: the first to ten points in the tie break.

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Speaker 2: So this is still the second set.

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Speaker 5: They've been at it for ninety minutes ish so far

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Speaker 5: and we're still in the second set.

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Speaker 1: We still have the other semifinal coming up, like after

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Speaker 1: this is little.

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Speaker 5: First, Yes, which is gonna start I think at three

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Speaker 5: thirty eastern time, right, Well.

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Speaker 2: You're right.

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Speaker 5: If it doesn't, it was supposed to start at three

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Speaker 5: thirty eastern times, So we'll see.

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Speaker 2: We will see what happens. But yes, this is the

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Speaker 2: semi final. In the NBA, all the games have wrapped up.

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Speaker 5: The last one was the Timberwolves beating the Thunder one

682
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Speaker 5: twenty three to one eleven.

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Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards with twenty six points in that one.

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Speaker 5: Dylan Brooks a villain, you guys talking about villains.

685
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Speaker 2: He had forty points, eight rebounds.

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Speaker 5: The Suns beat the Pistons one fourteen to ninety six.

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Speaker 5: The Nuggets outscored the Nets one oh seven to one

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Speaker 5: oh three.

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Speaker 2: Brooklyn has lost seven in a row.

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Speaker 5: Michael Porter Junior in the loss, had thirty eight points

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Speaker 5: and ten rebounds. In Dallas, the Hornet survived one twenty

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Speaker 5: three to one twenty one against the Mavericks. Konkiniple led

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Speaker 5: the way for Charlotte.

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Speaker 2: He had thirty four points. He hit the game winning

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Speaker 2: free throws. He had eight threes in the win. And

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Speaker 2: Cooper Flag had forty nine points.

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Speaker 5: That's the most points ever by a teenager in the NBA.

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Speaker 2: And I think he fouled on the final.

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Speaker 5: Play throw yes, and then the ball got wedged in,

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Speaker 5: so it's like he couldn't have even gone in and

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Speaker 5: been a three point play, but the ball became a

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Speaker 5: little weggie.

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Speaker 2: It was over a turnover. He had turned over the ball.

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Speaker 2: They got it fast, lay up.

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Speaker 5: He tried to stop them and then he fouled them.

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Speaker 5: But you know what, ain't gonna them. He defeated the

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Speaker 5: Bulls went sixteen to one thirteen. Rockets crush the Hawks

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Speaker 5: one of four to eighty six, Wizards over the Bucks

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Speaker 5: one on nine to ninety nine, and the seventy six

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Speaker 5: Ers won it on a Tyrese Maxi layup against the

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Speaker 5: Kings won thirteen to one eleven. Maxie ended with forty

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Speaker 5: points and eight assists. When it comes to the NFL,

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Speaker 5: Patriots quarterback who's dealing with the shoulder injury, did take

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Speaker 5: some reps at practice on Wednesday as he prepares for

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Speaker 5: the Super Bowl. By the way, New England has chosen

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Speaker 5: to wear the all white uniforms and the Seahawks are

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Speaker 5: gonna wear they're all Navy home uniforms even though they're

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Speaker 5: going to be the away team at the Super Mull

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Speaker 5: Eagles found their new offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 2: It's Packers quarterback.

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Speaker 5: Coach Sean Ammannon, who played nine seasons as a backup

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Speaker 5: quarterback in the NFL. In the NHL, some games still

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Speaker 5: going on. Stars and Golden Knights are tied up four

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Speaker 5: in overtime late in the third period, Connects up on

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Speaker 5: the Ducks to zero. Also late in the third period

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Speaker 5: where the Kraken lead the Maple Leaves five to two. Also,

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Speaker 5: it's my mom's birthday, guys, so happy.

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Speaker 2: Birthday time, Happy birthday.

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Speaker 5: Yes, Felise yeats thoughts shots, absolutely absolutely, I hope she's

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Speaker 5: got her her share tonight, but I'm gonna buy her

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Speaker 5: one tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Jason Smith Mike Harmon live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios.

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Speaker 1: Coming up next, we get into an absolute legendary performance

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Speaker 1: tonight and break it down.

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Speaker 2: Keep it right here, Jason and Mike Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith

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Speaker 3: Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven

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Speaker 3: pm Pacific.

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Speaker 1: Well, it sounds like the same beat from UH Intergalactic

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Speaker 1: by Beastie Boys Intergalactic Planet, Terry Planet Arry, Intergalactic Data.

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Speaker 2: And where they get it from.

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio The Rick Rubin Jason, how much wax

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Speaker 1: is in your ears? Just listen Nothing, Listen to listen

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Speaker 1: to drum in the bass. It's the same planet Nothing,

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Speaker 1: Intergalactic Planet, Terry Planet, Terry Intergalactic.

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Speaker 2: I mean trying to parse it out. You're just running

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Speaker 2: up a hill. Anyway. I like my sugar with coffee

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Speaker 2: and cream. So Uh. Tonight we had an epic game

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Speaker 2: in the NBA.

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Speaker 1: UH Cooper Flag and Conkin Upple, former teammates at Duke

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Speaker 1: Big Showdown. Look, the other team is very good, but

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Speaker 1: Flag goes for forty nine. Couple goes for thirty four,

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Speaker 1: Flag most points in a game by a teenager in

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Speaker 1: NBA history with his forty nine. He hit shots at

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Speaker 1: the end, heat check shots that were just incredible and

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00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: they almost pulled it off. He foul Kneppl at the

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Speaker 1: end with the free throws to win the game. Like

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Speaker 1: this was an incredible battle between these two guys where

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Speaker 1: teammates last year at Duke. And there's two things to

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Speaker 1: take away from this, right The fun one is this

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Speaker 1: is that shouldn't this be when Cooper Flag and Kan

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Speaker 1: kinepl hit the rookie wall? Should that this is more

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Speaker 1: games than they've ever played. We're getting into forty. Some

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Speaker 1: get shouldn't they be hitting the rookie game? Maybe that's

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Speaker 1: after this last gas.

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Speaker 2: Beffort and hey I need a week, let you know.

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Speaker 2: But this is when when.

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Speaker 1: You see rookies who have a big start, they get

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Speaker 1: into and they kind of hit the rookie wall.

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Speaker 2: Like maybe VJ. Edgecumb is gonna hit the rookie wall

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Speaker 2: a little bit. Now. Well, now that Joel and b

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Speaker 2: starting to play more, he wants to be in charge.

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Speaker 1: Now you see that now, except Cooper Flag and these

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Speaker 1: guys are just continuing to play at this high level

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Speaker 1: and they're expanding it. And that's a that's a real

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Speaker 1: rare thing. Like you you don't see that happen where

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Speaker 1: rookies do that. You see sometimes you get a dip

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Speaker 1: for a bunch of games. Maybe they get injured because

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00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 1: again they've played too many their muscles aren't used to

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Speaker 1: bodies not used to it. But here's Flagg and Keneup

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Speaker 1: going for you know, combining for eighty three points in

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Speaker 1: a game. Again, both teams are bad, but still the

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Speaker 1: show they put on, it didn't matter. Do you think

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Speaker 1: you had something to do with the fact that they

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Speaker 1: took Mark Aguire's jersey and raised to the raptors a

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Speaker 1: guy who nearly scored twenty thousand points his NBA career. Well,

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Speaker 1: it was the first round pick out of DePaul Cooper.

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Speaker 1: Flag almost had twenty thousand to night. Yeah he los

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Speaker 1: that big a deal. Wow, it doesn't matter. I mean

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Speaker 1: they put on one hell of a show. I mean

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Speaker 1: George Day would have been fired. It doesn't matter who

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Speaker 1: wins this game because both teams think it matters. This

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Speaker 1: is where Flag and conconepl Okay, both teams can say

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Speaker 1: we got our guys right. You know if this game

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Speaker 1: was this game on Peacock, maybe a few more people

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Speaker 1: watched it.

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Speaker 2: Ah. But here's the other.

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Speaker 1: Take on this, right, because this is because this is

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Speaker 1: this is where I go after seeing this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, put your get your take on me? Is that? Boy?

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Speaker 1: What kind of an epic fail did Duke have in

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Speaker 1: the NCAA tournament when they lost to Hughes. You couldn't

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Speaker 1: win the title with these guys.

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Speaker 2: We talked about the Ohio State squad.

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Speaker 1: Exactly what I said, Right, how did Ohio State epic fail?

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Speaker 1: They're gonna have four guys taking the top fifteen of

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Speaker 1: the draft, maybe they would have five if Jeremiah Smith

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Speaker 1: was going to the NFL. Four in the top fifteen,

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Speaker 1: maybe five in the first round overall, and they couldn't

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Speaker 1: even win the big ten. Come on, man, like that's

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Speaker 1: an epic fail. You have these guys who are showing

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Speaker 1: you they are treating the NBA like this is just

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Speaker 1: our dominance at the next level, and you couldn't win the.

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Speaker 2: NCAA championship with them. Last year you lost to Houston

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Speaker 2: in a game.

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Speaker 1: You led Houston by ten points, but their smothering defense

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Speaker 1: was too big a deal. And you are like, that's

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Speaker 1: an epic fail by Duke man. I mean because you

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Speaker 1: hat other guy. You got other guys on the NBA

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Speaker 1: that were on this team, but these were your two

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Speaker 1: big stars. How did Duke not win the title last year?

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Speaker 1: How did you fall short with these two?

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Speaker 2: How did that happen? Do you have John Shire's number?

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but that's a question.

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Speaker 1: Is sending him screenshots today of Hey coach Duke practice tomorrow?

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Speaker 1: Hey John Jason Smith Fox Sports Radio. Did you watch

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Speaker 1: the game? Like, oh yeah, watch the game was awesome?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: At what point did you realize you did a bad

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Speaker 1: coaching job last year? That was coming off a thirty

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Speaker 1: one point win against Louisville on Monday night? What's the

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Speaker 1: next first question in the next presser? So John got

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Speaker 1: two guys that are already running rough shot over the NBA.

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Speaker 1: Did you watch the game last night with Cooper and

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Speaker 1: con Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah great? Oh so hi to vote m Yeah?

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Speaker 1: At what point did you realize there may be somebody

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Speaker 1: else coaching the team might have won the championship?

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Speaker 2: How do you think you misused them a year ago?

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Speaker 1: How can you tell me just how you went like

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Speaker 1: ten minutes without a field goal against Houston with these

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00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 1: two guys like ten minutes, man, ten minutes without a

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Speaker 1: field goal?

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Speaker 2: How did that happen? Because he either.

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Speaker 1: Has to really blame himself or he really attacks the

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Speaker 1: other three guys.

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Speaker 2: That were on the course. Here's my other one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Hey, John shioh Jason Smith, Fox Sports Radio, Hey, Jason,

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Speaker 1: what do you got?

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Speaker 2: Hey? You see Cooper and con last night?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 2: Man? What game is great? Because?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they combined. You see theys combined for eighty three

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00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 1: points last night an NBA game. Yeah, that was amazing.

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Speaker 1: How did you only score sixty seven with your whole

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00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,959
Speaker 1: team against Houston in that semi final game?

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Speaker 2: Can you tell me?

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Speaker 1: Can you tell me college players commit to defense? Jason

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Speaker 1: h At one point watching that game, did you realize, Wow,

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Speaker 1: you really made Kelvin Sampson's career by losing that game

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Speaker 1: to him last year?

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Speaker 2: Can you can you tell me? I mean really?

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Speaker 1: I mean that would be my question for John Shire.

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Speaker 1: That would be the one. I would go right to

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Speaker 1: that one. You like one more? You got one more?

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Speaker 1: Like somebody else? One more?

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Speaker 2: Al right?

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Speaker 1: Good? Just over you're the over aggressive kid in the front.

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Speaker 1: It's like I got a lot of these I mean this, look,

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Speaker 1: it was a it was a fun game to watch.

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Speaker 1: And you see these guys, you look, you see that, Hey,

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Speaker 1: the next generation of stars. Maybe the NBA is in

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Speaker 1: good hands. Maybe Duke not so much. Maybe I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna pickhim my braat now, no matter what, because if

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Speaker 1: you can't win with these guys, why am I picking

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Speaker 1: you this? Maybe Nico wasn't as big a dope as

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Speaker 1: he was made out to be. Exit out via Fresca

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Speaker 1: exit swelling Dome. Coming up next. If your team meets

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Speaker 1: a quarterback this offseason, there's a forty million dollar guy that's.

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Speaker 2: Gonna be available. That's next. Fox