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Speaker 2: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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Speaker 2: be happy.

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Speaker 1: You want to be happy for day Edith State?

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Speaker 2: Is that?

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Speaker 1: Woom woom?

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Speaker 2: And then and Tye, welcome back to the solid verbal,

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Speaker 2: Boys and girls, my name is ty hilden Brand, joining

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Speaker 3: My man Dan Rubinstein, sir, how are you?

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Speaker 1: I want to be up front right here, Ty, do

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Speaker 1: not tell me what happened in the Notre Dame Clemson game.

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Speaker 2: My DVR fine, done, done, done, thought I would give

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Speaker 1: I'm okay, Ty. I had a had a fun December

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Speaker 1: twenty ninth, December to remember, would you say yes?

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Speaker 1: For some people, that's for sure. Some people will get

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Speaker 1: into that. I had a very good time watching certain

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Speaker 1: but I imagine it'd probably be wise to check in

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Speaker 1: on playoff games first. So I'm ready when you are

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Speaker 1: how are you otherwise?

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Speaker 3: I'm good, good.

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Speaker 2: Otherwise, people just tend to think that I'm despondent here. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: in light of Notre Dame's crush that I just think

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Speaker 2: it's funny twenty seven point defeat.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk about Notre Dame and Clemson in Alabama and

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Speaker 2: Oklahoma here momentarily. But as you said, we haven't recorded

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Speaker 2: in a week because we pre recorded our final two

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Speaker 2: Bowl preview shows. So it's good to be back recording

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Speaker 2: with you early on a Sunday morning, shaking off the rust.

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Speaker 1: Please forgive us if we're a bit rusty.

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Speaker 2: Before we go any further, I do want to give

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Speaker 2: a shout out to a gentleman whose entry is titled

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Speaker 2: Rookie Draft in our solid verbal bull pool. Looks like

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Speaker 2: his name is Joe. Joe is currently in first place.

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Speaker 2: He's in the hundredth percentile nationally. I haven't had a

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Speaker 2: the other folks around the country playing in the ESPN

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Speaker 2: Capitol One Bowl Mania Confidence Pool, but suffice to say,

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Speaker 2: Joe is looking pretty sturdy now as we head into

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Speaker 2: the final home stretch, still games to be played on

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Speaker 2: New Year's Day.

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Speaker 1: A bunch that we previewed on our shows. Go back

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Speaker 1: and listen to those.

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Speaker 2: Not to mention the national championship between Clemson and Alabama,

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Speaker 2: but Joe looking pretty strong at the current moment.

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Speaker 1: Joe. By the way, if you would like to use

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Speaker 2: All right, well, let's get into it. We had fun

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Speaker 2: on Twitter last evening. We had fun on social media

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Speaker 2: We went live on the Gram twice. Seemed like that

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Speaker 2: be played at a championship game to be played. Let's

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Speaker 2: start though, with Clemson thirty, Notre Dame three. Most importantly,

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Speaker 2: did you catch Sean McDonough mentioning a softer Brian Kelly?

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Speaker 2: There were people tweeting about that comment who had no

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Speaker 2: That said, Notre Dame had a few plays is that

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Speaker 1: Were they actually difference making plays though, like the so

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Speaker 2: And again I'm prefacing all this by saying, I don't

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Speaker 1: What Notre Dame wanted to do out there. Yeah, there is,

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Speaker 2: Look no further than a guy like Dexter Lawrence right

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Speaker 2: on a normal team. Yes, emphasis on normal team. That's

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Speaker 2: an enormous blow to lose a defensive lineman of his caliber.

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Speaker 1: No, it's totally true, and it's almost why. And this

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Speaker 1: Seemed okay at times, but it got torched at times,

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Speaker 2: Clemson's defense was more than Notre Dame could handle, took

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Speaker 2: Ian Book truly was under assault the whole game. This

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 2: The interesting point to me is the contrast that I

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Speaker 2: With Book, there's certainly room to grow and fine tune

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Speaker 3: Sure, With Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 2: and it's like, oh, he just discovered he could, you know,

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Speaker 1: Wow. And I just kept thinking, well, it's true, it's true. Fact, Okay,

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Speaker 2: Me was thinking watching this game, if it wasn't a

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Speaker 2: Brian Kelly. Because Books got two years left, there's a

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Speaker 2: to himself, do I have to make another change?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean I don't. I mean, who is that

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Speaker 2: offer in a way that Trevor Lawrence is still growing

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Speaker 1: I am not ready to crown Trevor Lawrence in that

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Speaker 1: way because I am still old enough to remember Deshaun

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Speaker 1: you know, going into that big of a situation with Clemson.

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Speaker 1: a Clemson fan, the future is incredibly bright. The receivers,

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Speaker 2: The final score here was forty five to thirty four.

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Speaker 3: So the lay of the land is this.

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Speaker 3: They looked a lot better on offense.

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Speaker 2: Kyler Murray looked a lot like the Heisman Trophy winner

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Speaker 1: What is it about Oklahoma's defense that gives you any

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Speaker 1: It's not great. He looked. He just looks sensational. He

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and we have when we look at whether it's

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Speaker 1: mega day of all of these New Year six games

438
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Speaker 1: on the same day with the old structure of you know,

439
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Speaker 1: sec AC and the Orange Bowl or whatever, Sugar Bowl,

440
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,200
Speaker 1: and then you it's an actual just plus one of

441
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Speaker 1: having some sort of BCS esque situation where you're like,

442
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Speaker 1: all right, all these New Year six games have happened,

443
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 1: and it's going to be Alabama Clemson again, so at

444
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 1: least we could get this full exciting day of it

445
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 1: instead of just like, all right, this is these two

446
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 1: games that we know what's going to happen.

447
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Speaker 2: I do feel weird about the fact that the playoffs

448
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,959
Speaker 2: are played on December twenty ninth, yeah, and not on

449
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 2: New Year's date. And again, this is like a separate

450
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 2: podcast altogether. If we want to go there, maybe we

451
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 2: can do that in the offseason. It feels weird to

452
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,439
Speaker 2: me that the biggest games aren't being played on New

453
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Speaker 2: Year's Day.

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Speaker 1: I just, yeah, I want that day. I want that

455
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Speaker 1: New Year's Day. And I know the Rose Bowl refuses

456
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Speaker 1: to leave and that's fine. Put everything on New Year's

457
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Speaker 1: Day and just at the end of it, say, okay,

458
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Speaker 1: we're gonna cause I the more games we get in

459
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Speaker 1: these NFL stadiums, it's I mean, obviously you get that

460
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Speaker 1: with sugar and orange and everything like that, but I

461
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Speaker 1: just I want that day, ty, I want that day,

462
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 1: that that mega six game spectacular where everybody's in the

463
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Speaker 1: same place. You know, something's on ABC, S, i'mings on Fox,

464
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Speaker 1: I'm going the ESPN. You know, it's just where we

465
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Speaker 1: that's like our holiday, and that's what I want. So

466
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Speaker 1: there you go. It is Alabama, it is Clemson.

467
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Speaker 2: It's a lot what we expected to be honest, but

468
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 2: they will be playing on January seventh. We will of

469
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 2: course be having a full preview of that game where

470
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Speaker 2: we're going to deep dive each team. But for the interim,

471
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Speaker 2: huge wins for both Alabama and Clemson, definitely showing their

472
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Speaker 2: metal against quality opponents here in the College football Playoff

473
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Speaker 2: semi finals.

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Speaker 1: How far away do you think Notre Dame is from

475
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Speaker 1: scoring a touchdown? Are they that far? Seriously? Oh Man

476
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Speaker 1: of weathering a huge loss somewhere.

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Speaker 2: Their line was overwhelmed by Clemson. Their line was overwhelmed

478
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Speaker 2: for sure. And ian Book is not, like you said,

479
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 2: ian Book is not the kind of quarterback who's going

480
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 2: to stretch the field. You saw what he tried to

481
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 2: stretch the field. You could show a movie on that football.

482
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Speaker 2: That's how long hung up in the air. So not. No,

483
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Speaker 2: I don't think they're that far off from scoring eight touchdown.

484
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 2: I think they're pretty far off from consistently being able

485
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Speaker 2: to beat a team like Clemson, which is what they

486
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Speaker 2: need to do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, fair enough. And we should also mention

488
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Speaker 1: the Big Tens scoreless streak in the College Football Playoff

489
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Speaker 1: lives on another year. Big Ten has not scored a

490
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Speaker 1: point since Ohio State beat Oregon. And I tweeted this

491
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Speaker 1: out that the Midwest finally scores a point with Notre Dame.

492
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Speaker 1: Big moment, Dan, I cried a single tier, but still

493
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Speaker 1: no touchdowns since January twelfth, twenty fifteen for the Midwest

494
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Speaker 1: and the College Football Playoff.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of offensive disappointment, Dan, Yes, let's turn the page

496
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Speaker 2: and let's talk about some of the other bowl games.

497
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Speaker 3: And let's start.

498
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Speaker 1: I'm ready. Let's start with the cheese at Bowlding. Oh

499
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Speaker 1: you rascal.

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Speaker 2: Let's start with the cheese At Bowl. So a bunch

501
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:56,920
Speaker 2: of games transpired between the time of our last recording

502
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:01,160
Speaker 2: and this show up, which is the cheese At Bowl,

503
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 2: where we had seventeen points in total, nine interceptions in total,

504
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 2: and overtime. To sum this one up, let me quote

505
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Speaker 2: directly from our text thread, something that you sent to

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Speaker 2: me early Thursday morning.

507
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Speaker 1: Quote, Holy s I won't use the expletive.

508
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Speaker 2: TCU one, Daniel did shout out to anybody out there

509
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Speaker 2: who watched this game in real time, in its entirety,

510
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 2: TCU the victor again ten to seven, went almost exactly

511
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:37,919
Speaker 2: as we expected. Grayson mulestein mule stuff. I don't know

512
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Speaker 2: how you say it. The senior quarterback for TCU went

513
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Speaker 2: seven of twenty for twenty seven yards and four touchdowns.

514
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Speaker 1: Chunk of that coming at the end, but.

515
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 2: Yes, and somehow did so in a winning effort. I

516
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 2: didn't even have a sound for in a winning effort, Dan.

517
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Speaker 1: It would just you would have to reverse the.

518
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 2: So it just goes up at the end one point

519
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 2: three five yards per attempt for great.

520
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Speaker 3: I can't even say it.

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00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 1: Mules mules, mule mules, like yeah, something like that. Yeah,

522
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Speaker 1: him one, I can't imagine we're going to be repeating

523
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 1: this name after today's show. One point three five yards

524
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 1: per attempt QBR one point seven in this game, this

525
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: game was truly terrific. And I understand the appeal of

526
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 1: watching a game like this. This you know, it's it's

527
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 1: basically the whole game was bringing the shortstop into pitch

528
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 1: in the twenty third inning.

529
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Speaker 3: That's right.

530
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 1: That was That was essentially or when like a team

531
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 1: is has seven guys foul out and they have to

532
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 1: play three on five, That's what this entire game was.

533
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 1: And I was inundated with tweets predictably, so like, you

534
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 1: have to make this your dramatic drive chart. You have

535
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,199
Speaker 1: to read all of the possessions in this game. You

536
00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 1: have to to spotlight this game with your with your

537
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 1: pal Divorgak in the New World Symphony. Of course, that's

538
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 1: what you got to do. Let me tell you something, ty, I,

539
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 1: like many people, I try to prepare, I try to train.

540
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,360
Speaker 1: I try to get my head in the right mindset

541
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Speaker 1: for doing something like this because we've gone through a

542
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 1: lot of bad drives, We've gone through a lot of

543
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:25,159
Speaker 1: bad games offensively throughout this season, and it all is

544
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 1: going to culminate in something. I just didn't know what

545
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,640
Speaker 1: it was going to be. And then when I saw

546
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 1: that Cal and TCU were playing a bowl game, when

547
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 1: these two offenses were getting together, I got with my

548
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 1: friend super Frog okay, and I got with my friend

549
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 1: Oski yep, and we hit the mountains. We bundled up,

550
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: We took our cars to the frozen tundra of Russia,

551
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 1: Siberia in the middle of winter cold. And we had

552
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 1: to prepare you. They had to prepare me. They were

553
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 1: my training partners, and we were fighting against offensive competency.

554
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 1: We knew offensive competency was in the lab, was in

555
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 1: the gym, lifting, you know, having his his electrolytes tested.

556
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 3: Doing like Saquon Barkley style squat.

557
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 1: Yes squats, sprinting around the inside track. But there I

558
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: was with Osci and super Frog, chopping wood, pulling sleds,

559
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 1: trudging through the snow, and just preparing myself for a

560
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 1: cheese it bowl of a lifetime tie. I was doing

561
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,959
Speaker 1: all of the unorthodox things. It's getting my mind right.

562
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 1: I was getting my legs right, doing some yoga, was

563
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 1: doing yoga outside. And then the game happened tie, and

564
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 1: it did not disappoint I was writing Tie. I was like, Oh,

565
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 1: this is this is what the this is what the

566
00:29:55,120 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 1: long nights with the wheelbarrows trained me for. So without

567
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 1: further ado, punt, punt, punt, interception, touchdown, punt, interception, interception, interception, interception, punt, punt, punt, downs, interception,

568
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Speaker 1: end of half interception, punt, punt, punt, touchdown, punt, punt, punt, punt, interception, downs,

569
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Speaker 1: punt downs, interception, field go.

570
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 3: That's like your opus right there.

571
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Speaker 1: Dan, Oh my god, ty my spleen hurts. How many

572
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 1: times did you practice that? Be honest? Zero times? No,

573
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 1: come on, zero times, I'm telling you zero. Wow, my

574
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 1: side really does hurt. I took some hits doing that.

575
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 2: Would you rather see your team in a cheese its

576
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 2: style bowl, a slop fest, or have your bowl game

577
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 2: be straight up canceled like the first responders bul slop fests?

578
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 1: One hundred percent people are going to remember the cheese

579
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 1: It Bowl fondly for screwed up reasons, but having to

580
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 1: travel and go through the motions, and you know it's

581
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 1: your last game if you're a senior, if you're what

582
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 1: it's Boise State and BC and have it just called

583
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 1: it's so deflating. We're at least the cheese At Bowl.

584
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 1: You can always say I was there when Graham Mules

585
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: seen whatever completed that third pass or whatever he ended

586
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:22,479
Speaker 1: up with. There's something where Grayson, not Graham, sort of

587
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 1: sickeningly fun.

588
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 2: The cheese At Bull enters into the rarefied air of

589
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 2: the two thousand and eight Sun Bowl with this showing

590
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 2: in ten to seven your final score. For what it's worth,

591
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 2: the Arizona Bull didn't do much better yesterday sixteen to

592
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 2: thirteen in favor of Nevada. But nonetheless the cheese At

593
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 2: Bull a crowd favored among our solid verbal listeners.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, theah, the one you'd be pointed out by the way, Yeah,

595
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: go ahead, We're moving on. Shewohl. Alona Lua had a

596
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 1: baller of a game. It was almost two hundred on

597
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 1: the ground, and I assume you saw Justin Rodgers, who's

598
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 1: a big heralded young freshman quarterback for TCU. He came

599
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 1: in for one snap and they pointed out he doesn't

600
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 1: have full use of his foot. Good, but they put

601
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: him in a game. Okay, did not work out super well?

602
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 3: All right?

603
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 2: As I mentioned, the First Responder Bowl between Boston College

604
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 2: and Boise was canceled due to weather. I believe the

605
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 2: first time in the history of college football that a

606
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 2: bowl game has been straight up canceled. Boston College led

607
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 2: seven to nothing with about five or so minutes left

608
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Speaker 2: in the first quarter.

609
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 3: Then the weather came.

610
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 2: There was a long lightning delay for about ninety minutes,

611
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 2: and they called it off, which you know, sucks for

612
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 2: the players and certainly the fans who paid to get there.

613
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 2: I did see that both schools said that they're going

614
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 2: to offer refunds, yeah, for tickets that were purchased through

615
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 2: their athletic departments. But you hate to see that. A

616
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 2: sad way for Brett Rippon to end his career at Boise.

617
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 2: But you know, the coaches seem to be okay with it.

618
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 2: They seem to think that it was done for the

619
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 2: right reasons, to certainly keep player safety at front of mine.

620
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Speaker 1: So yeah, there you go.

621
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Speaker 2: I did see in our confidence pool that they just

622
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 2: wipe this one away, and so like, if you're me

623
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 2: and you put thirty six or something on Boise, they

624
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 2: actually just took the game away entirely. And now instead

625
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 2: of having forty one confidence points available, the max that

626
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 2: you could have available is forty, which I think was

627
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 2: a quat move.

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Speaker 1: All right, So yeah, them is the breaks with the

629
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Speaker 1: confidence pool. There's always going to be some some sort

630
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 1: of risk with these games, and unfortunately, mostly for the

631
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Speaker 1: players and fans and everybody.

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00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,719
Speaker 2: Involves, didn't happen. Did not happen. So look, there were

633
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 2: a bunch of Bowl games. As I said, that went on.

634
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 2: We're not going to go through each of them individually,

635
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 2: but instead, I think highlights some of the things that

636
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 2: really jumped out to you and I like the cheese

637
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 2: at bull and first responderable. Of course, let's talk about

638
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 2: Army hanging seventy on Houston and the ramifications of.

639
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: That that escalated very quickly, both on and off the field.

640
00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 2: Yes, a fifty six point margin of VIC for Army

641
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 2: ties the FBS record for largest margin ever in a

642
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 2: Bowl game. You have to go back to the iconic

643
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,240
Speaker 2: gmac ballback in I think two thousand and eight. Everyone

644
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 2: remembers that game.

645
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 1: Back.

646
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll be honest with you here, I was really

647
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:19,720
Speaker 2: workshopping a bit about Army ordering a code red on Houston,

648
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 2: and then I remembered that A few good men was

649
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 2: about the Marine corps.

650
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 1: So I scrapped a Yeah, you were working the clubs

651
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 1: with that joke. You were tested out. You had a

652
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: whole list of Yeah, it's too bad it didn't work out.

653
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 3: I was trying.

654
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 2: Regardless, what Army did to Houston was cold blooded, possibly illegal,

655
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 2: and awesome. It was good to see Army going out

656
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 2: on a real high note. A great eleven win season.

657
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean including the ballgame. Yes, they were a

658
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 1: ten to two team that won the bowl game, and

659
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 1: thus we can call them an eleven win at least

660
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: right now. Eleven win team.

661
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 2: And looks like major apple White maybe feeling the effects

662
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:54,720
Speaker 2: of that on the Houston side.

663
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, it appears he's out. And the rumor is the

664
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: not so held secret rumor is that Dana Holgerson, who

665
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 1: I think it's sort of been time for he and

666
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 1: West Virginia to go their separate ways, certainly with his

667
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 1: experience at Texas and he was at Houston. Is the

668
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,280
Speaker 1: big name rumored. Should everything play out like it appears

669
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 1: it's going to play out at the time of this

670
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 1: recording Sunday morning, he's going to be the guy for

671
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:25,280
Speaker 1: the Cougars and a really just a bad look for Houston.

672
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 1: And obviously we can't speak to any sort of internal

673
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 1: acrimony between major apple White and the powers that be

674
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: both within the athletic department and those that pull the

675
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: strings with the athletic department at Houston. But real strange

676
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: to be fired based on a bowl result that what

677
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: is the Armed Forces Bowl? Yeap, So I have to

678
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 1: assume there's just a lot more at play here than

679
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 1: just being embarrassed by a good Army team. By the way,

680
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 1: you know how many points Colgate allowed to Army, maybe

681
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 1: twenty eight and Houston allowing seventy. In the wake of this,

682
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: can o'brill's resigned and I assume that's a procedural thing,

683
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 1: resigned and looks to be or I don't even know

684
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 1: if it's official taking the job at Florida State, the

685
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator job at Florida State, which, okay, that might

686
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: indicate Willie Tagger is not in that safe a spot

687
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 1: if he has to make a move like that all

688
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 1: of a sudden. So obviously Walt Bell leaves Florida State

689
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 1: for the UMAs job, and there was an opening. But okay,

690
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 1: so that's that's Houston, all right.

691
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:29,879
Speaker 2: Where else do we want to go. What else did

692
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 2: out to you?

693
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: Okay, real quickly, we talked about Army, We talked about

694
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: the cheese at Bowl. I thought Troy did a really

695
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 1: nice job with what Sawyer and BJ Smith in their

696
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 1: backfield taking down a pretty difficult Buffalo team, especially on offense.

697
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 1: It was Paul Johnson going out with the whimper against

698
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 1: Minnesota and know a lot of people are like, man,

699
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 1: he's gonna gonna rush for six hundred yards and this

700
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 1: quick lane bowl against Minnesota. Turns out the dude who

701
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: was going to be running for many yards was Mohammed

702
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: Ibrahim for Minnesota. Really nice win for PJ. Fleck and

703
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 1: the Gophers. Any thoughts about the thought of an ending

704
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 1: for your Georgia Tech.

705
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, when I said some people said that Georgia Tech

706
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 2: was going to run for six hundred yards, I was

707
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 2: one of those people.

708
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: Yes, I was trying to be cool.

709
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 2: I was all in on Georgia Tech. And perhaps I

710
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 2: should have known better. That's going to be a recurring

711
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 2: theme here as we go through some of my.

712
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 3: Highlights rough defense.

713
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 2: There were some games here where it was a little

714
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 2: bit more obvious, certainly in hindsight, who I should have

715
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 2: picked and this might be one of them.

716
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: Yes, outside of that. Jalen Ferguson, who you correctly spotlighted

717
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,760
Speaker 1: in our preview of Louisiana Tech Hawaii as being a dude,

718
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,800
Speaker 1: to the shock of nobody in America and the broader

719
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: world at large, was a dude. Yeah, play ball. Really

720
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 1: cool to see that, Daniel Jones, your guy hanging just

721
00:37:55,880 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: a ton on the worst uniformed team of the bowl season.

722
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 2: Temple out Danny Jones, Man, he is working hard for

723
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:05,280
Speaker 2: that first round grade.

724
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:10,280
Speaker 1: Yes, he very much is working hard. Either's some times

725
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: I wish it was a more consistent career at Duke.

726
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: Wish there weren't games where Duke just like got weirdly

727
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 1: and randomly schalacked. But we're still talking about what an

728
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 1: eight to nine win Duke team. That's fine, Dan.

729
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 2: Is Is Daniel Jones going to be that quarterback? We're

730
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 2: not going to plunge into any deep level of NFL

731
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 2: analysis here, right, Is he going to be that quarterback

732
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 2: like Josh Allen last year who everyone talked themselves into

733
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 2: as a first round caliber talent.

734
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 1: Well, I think Daniel Jones has accomplished things in college

735
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: more so than Josh Allen did that was strictly physical,

736
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 1: and I think people look at Daniel Jones as, you know,

737
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 1: being athletic, having a nice arm, a good decision maker

738
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,879
Speaker 1: most of the time, and had the tutelage at Duke

739
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 1: that you know, he's coached by the Mannings guy and

740
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 1: everything like that. So there's something about that angle. I

741
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 1: think it's more like a Kyle Bowler Trent Edwards. We're

742
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 1: just like, oh, it's not a great year, but this

743
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:07,280
Speaker 1: guy seems to have all the measures.

744
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 3: You can throw eighty yards on his knees.

745
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And so I think it's more apt to that.

746
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:15,240
Speaker 1: I think he could be fine.

747
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 2: If my team in the NFL, and I'm a Giants fan,

748
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 2: if the Giants end up drafting Daniel Jones, I'm gonna

749
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 2: be pissed.

750
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 1: A Ryan Nasib type.

751
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,800
Speaker 3: I'd be happier with Ryan Nassib than Daniel Jones.

752
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: Wasn't he on the Giants? Is he still on the Giants?

753
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 3: I don't know he was for a while.

754
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 1: Okay, beyond that, I'll go to a quarterback who actually

755
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: I think has a pretty high ceiling byus, Zach Wilson.

756
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: Not a great year for BYU's offense. They were a

757
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: nightmare in twenty seventeen though simply being below average. That's

758
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 1: a win win for the Cougars true freshman Zach Wilson

759
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 1: eighteen of eighteen in their win over I think it

760
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 1: was Western Michigan, and I think he was committed to

761
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 1: Boise State, and so as a true freshman, you know,

762
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 1: having the season he did, which much more good than not.

763
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 1: Kind of a cool thing to pay attention to moving forward,

764
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 1: because BYU does play a lot of Power five teams

765
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: and should be a team to at least pay attention

766
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 1: to on whatever level you're interested in. Jonathan Taylor tailback tie, Yeah,

767
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: big game. I don't even know if you know a

768
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 1: guy goes over two hundred yards in a bowl game

769
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 1: against a top level name in Miami. I can't say

770
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: top level anything else that The story is still what

771
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 1: the hell happened to this Miami team? Right?

772
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 2: Oh?

773
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 3: Man Mark rickt has lost all control?

774
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: Would you say that Miami has gone bank ricked? No?

775
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 3: No, no, talk about in the club scene with jokes.

776
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 1: I know, I know I tried and I failed. Yeah,

777
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 1: and I admit that freely Miami was there was the

778
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 1: whole thing when the Cosy Perry and snapchat and a

779
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 1: screen grab from earlier on in the season. So he's

780
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 1: not starting. Milake Roser is not good. Coasy Perry came

781
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 1: in for a little bit not good. It was just

782
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: and this is something that I think we glossed over

783
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 1: that and maybe we sort of mentioned off handedly. But

784
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 1: if there were ever a team where you're just like, listen,

785
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 1: list Miami has a pretty good defense. There's talent all

786
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,280
Speaker 1: over this defense. But if ever there were a team

787
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 1: that had a yes, we're at the game, but we're

788
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 1: not really at the game, Miami was such a good

789
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 1: candidate with the way they finished out their season, we

790
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:24,280
Speaker 1: did not hit that. Can you pick Miami?

791
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 3: Did you switch?

792
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 1: I almost certainly did yes, because of the defense and

793
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 1: my points per drive theory of defensive teams. And by

794
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 1: the way, it's like nineteen and seven.

795
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 2: Well I switched my pick from Wisconsin to Miami after

796
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 2: her that King Khne is going to be getting the start.

797
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, and who didn't do much? No, it didn't do much.

798
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 1: You didn't have to. No. So Pinstripe Bowl for the

799
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: ages Baylor does everything, gets everything.

800
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 2: From This is another one where I got dunked on

801
00:41:57,719 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 2: by my own logic.

802
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was pret pretty much before we were good

803
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 1: for the title. Yeah, dunked on by my own logic.

804
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 1: I've been there for a while.

805
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 2: But this is one of those games where I was

806
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 2: all in on Baylor. I really wanted to take them,

807
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 2: and then I talked myself out of it because on

808
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 2: paper it seemed like Vandy was way better. But Baylor

809
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 2: had that level of pluck that I required in a

810
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 2: game like this, and I wish I would have taken him.

811
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 1: Nice win for Baylor, very nice win for Baylor. They

812
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 1: would go from one to eleven to technically a winning record.

813
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 1: They go six and six this year, I believe, and

814
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,359
Speaker 1: that they win their seventh in the bowl game. Kishan Vaughan,

815
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: my goodness, and a losing effort one of the all

816
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if you have the music there, but

817
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: there it is.

818
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

819
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 1: He runs all over Baylor in a losing effort, just untackleable,

820
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 1: a total monster. I think he transferred from Illinois, I

821
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 1: want to say, and you know, a crazy bright bright spot.

822
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:00,359
Speaker 1: Wazoo dinked and dunked their way to.

823
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 2: The val Let's talk about the Valero Ala mobile. I

824
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 2: have many thoughts on.

825
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:09,280
Speaker 1: This okay, ty, I am stretched and ready. Here here's

826
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 1: the good.

827
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 2: The good is that Wazoo beat Iowa State twenty twenty six.

828
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 2: The upshot on a really good season. Yeah, the upshot

829
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,760
Speaker 2: for them and eleven wins season, which is great. Gardner

830
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 2: Minshew threw for almost three hundred yards. He broke Jared

831
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 2: Goff's single season Packed Paul passing record.

832
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 1: That's all good. Only took him fifty throws.

833
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:31,919
Speaker 3: I only took him fifty throws.

834
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 2: Right. Here's the weird. Were a lot of weird bits

835
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 2: to this Ala mobile. The weird is that there were

836
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,800
Speaker 2: three turnovers within the first four minutes of this game,

837
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 2: one of which was a pick six that was called

838
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 2: back because of a phantom taunting call. I believe a

839
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 2: phantom taunting call. Or was argue with me if you want,

840
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:51,399
Speaker 2: I don't care.

841
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:52,320
Speaker 3: That wasn't taunting.

842
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: He slowed down, show the ball a little, turned around

843
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: a little.

844
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 3: That's not taunting. Get out of it.

845
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:03,359
Speaker 1: I am fine with that not being called forever and ever.

846
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 1: But it wasn't running through the tape at the real Olympics.

847
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 1: It wasn't head down, full velocity, arms pumping.

848
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 2: Fair enough, fair enough. The other weird things. In this game,

849
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:24,919
Speaker 2: Iowa State called for seven false start penalties and also

850
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 2: had two guys ejected for targeting. The first targeting was

851
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 2: clear as day, the second one, buddy, The second one

852
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 2: was extremely questionable, and it led to a weird bit

853
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 2: in the booth with Greg McElroy explained, I can't even

854
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 2: get through it. Quote the crown of the helmet is

855
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 2: bigger than it used to be. Yeah, which is like

856
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 2: an instant classic.

857
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 1: I as a rule, and I think you feel the

858
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 1: same way. We're not huge on picking on broadcasts. No, No,

859
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 1: we understand it's a tough job. You know, you like

860
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 1: your Tom Hammond, the GPA, you know a fact only

861
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,760
Speaker 1: he cares about blah blah blah. But by and large,

862
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 1: these are pros. Are These are men and women that

863
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 1: are like studied, they're prepared, they're you know, they're ready

864
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 1: to fill time if it's a blowout.

865
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:14,240
Speaker 2: McElroy was voted one of the twenty smartest college football

866
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 2: players of all time, so he's clearly well educated, way

867
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 2: smarter than you and I put together. Also, we meet

868
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 2: these people when we go to places, so we try

869
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:23,320
Speaker 2: not to be critical.

870
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,839
Speaker 1: Sure, and it's just it's a tough job because things

871
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: are bang bang and you don't the referees don't have

872
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 1: the benefit of slow mo in the moment. Obviously. The

873
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 1: disappointing thing about this game it was I think it

874
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 1: was Dave Pass, who I like alongside Bill Walton a

875
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:39,800
Speaker 1: lot of the time. I think it's just a weird pairing.

876
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 1: And Greg McElroy. I don't know who was on the sideline.

877
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 1: Was it Lougan Bill? Yeah, it was Tom Lugan, Bill,

878
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 1: Tom Lugan, Billy.

879
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 3: I love me some Lougan Bill.

880
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 1: Yes. There was just something about this game, and I

881
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: don't know if it's because Greg McElroy is at a

882
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 1: conference network where it just felt like this game was

883
00:45:55,920 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 1: being broadcast on like the Valero network, where there was

884
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: was so vanilla and there was such a sheen of

885
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 1: like got a handle to like there was just that

886
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:12,959
Speaker 1: game could have been called by an AI bot, where

887
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 1: it's just like by the letter of the law got

888
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 1: us up. Well, well, there was just there was no insight,

889
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 1: there was no personality, there was no expertise. It was

890
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 1: just it was like we were texting back and forth

891
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 1: about this and I was trying my best not to

892
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 1: tweet about it. And be snarky about it, and I

893
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 1: ultimately lost out to my better uh my better instincts

894
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 1: and tweeted out something like Greg McElroy would hand it

895
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 1: to the Aliens who just vaporized the Eastern seaboards a

896
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 1: plan and they executed. It was a rough, rough watch it.

897
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 1: I like, I don't know, does Greg McElroy do games

898
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 1: during the season. Does he does a good job?

899
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 2: He did? I just look, I can't get past the

900
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 2: crown of the helmet being bigger than it used to be.

901
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 2: That feels like something you'd read in the Art of War, right,

902
00:46:58,960 --> 00:46:59,879
Speaker 2: what does that even mean?

903
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 1: One of the things I said was it was like

904
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 1: watching announcers call a game like they were doing at

905
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 1: Universal Studios, like the Live Fear Factor. Oh my god,

906
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 1: what is he going to do next? Folks? And unfortunate

907
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 1: because this was one of the games that I was

908
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: really looking forward to to see Hakeem Butler, to see

909
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew put a cap on his season and it

910
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 1: was It was a rough television program.

911
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 2: Tye all right, Auburn destroys Perdue sixty three to fourteen.

912
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 3: A slight, oh my goodness, slight miscalculation by me.

913
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 1: This is where the defense really played a nice role.

914
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 2: I determined that Auburn wouldn't care about this game, and

915
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 2: they scored fifty six in the first half. They said,

916
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 2: an FBS Bowl record scoring fifty six first half points.

917
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:50,240
Speaker 2: The saving grace, though, if I could with a confidence pool,

918
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:52,359
Speaker 2: is that you can take chances like this but only

919
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 2: put two confidence points on it, which is what I did.

920
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 2: Our friend Peter, who runs the subreddit he picked Perdue.

921
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:00,360
Speaker 2: He told me he put thirty nine points on the

922
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:04,240
Speaker 2: boiler Makers here. Wow, so maybe not the best strategiery

923
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 2: from our friend Peter. Shout out to the hoff Big

924
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 2: win for Auburn, Big game for Jared Stidham, who's going

925
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 2: pro clearly trying to goose his own NFL prospects. Fifteen

926
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 2: of twenty one, three seventy three and five touchdowns through

927
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:20,439
Speaker 2: the air. Nice game for Auburn, Nice game for him

928
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 2: as they win in resounding fashion.

929
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 1: They lose, They lose a lot on both sides, and

930
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 1: I just want to throw this in here, ty as

931
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 1: somebody who roots for a team that opens their twenty

932
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:34,240
Speaker 1: nineteen with Auburn on a neutral field. Yeah, Jared Sidham,

933
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 1: it's time. Mm hmm, yep. Making the right choice. Great job,

934
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 1: nothing left to proof. I would definitely maximize.

935
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 2: Now, speaking of SEC teams with big w's in their

936
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 2: bowl game, let's talk a little bit about Florida forty

937
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 2: one to fifteen over Michigan.

938
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 3: A great moment for Dan Mullen.

939
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 2: Really curious by the way, to see how they look

940
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 2: in twenty nineteen because the Gators are really young, They've

941
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 2: got weapons on offense, they've got players on defense. Quarterbacks

942
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 2: still obviously an open question. And then if you're Michigan,

943
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 2: clearly this is not the way you want to close

944
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 2: out your season. And I'm sure it's more wood for

945
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 2: the fire of the hardball haters. I don't really put

946
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 2: much stock in it. I think I should have paid

947
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 2: better attention to my own rule and taken Florida because

948
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 2: of that motivation gap that we talked about in our

949
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 2: preview shows. Michigan was just a heart beat away from

950
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 2: beating in the playoff. There was never a chance that

951
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 2: they were going to be up for this game. Dan,

952
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 2: I missed it. I should have picked Florida. Yeah, no,

953
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 2: this was a motivation game.

954
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:35,879
Speaker 1: We talked about this and looking at the teams that

955
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,760
Speaker 1: even if they are better defensively that there's a motivation

956
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,840
Speaker 1: gap and Florida, I mean, first year coach, free money,

957
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: you know, having a nice season, beating LSU and you know,

958
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 1: making a New Year's six game, and you're one of

959
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:51,879
Speaker 1: the Dan Mullen era. Yes, it's a situation where they're

960
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,280
Speaker 1: playing so much looser than whoever they're playing most likely,

961
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,359
Speaker 1: and we whiffed on it. They ran the ball really well,

962
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 1: Felibe Franks made some impressive throws. They don't turn the

963
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:05,240
Speaker 1: ball over or they release Felipe Franks doesn't and Michigan wise,

964
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 1: they just they looked flat. They made mistakes, They couldn't

965
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 1: run the ball, certainly not having what they didn't have

966
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 1: the starting right tackle they'd have Karan higged in defensively,

967
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:17,359
Speaker 1: no Rashan, Gary Aubrey, Solomon, Devin Bush like they took

968
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 1: some key hits. But this goes with the depth playing

969
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:25,919
Speaker 1: such a huge role. Michigan should not be twenty six

970
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:29,760
Speaker 1: points worse than Florida, even with filling in some gaps,

971
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 1: and they just they looked out class. And I don't know,

972
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 1: I don't know what to say about Michigan's ceiling beyond

973
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 1: I think we've seen it think this is it. If

974
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 1: this is what they're going to look like on offense,

975
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 1: is if this is this is the plan moving forward. Yeah,

976
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:51,479
Speaker 1: they're gonna threaten double digit wins. And that's that all right.

977
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 2: Florida again forty one to fifteen over Michigan. Some other

978
00:50:55,719 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 2: highlights for me yesterday, Virginia shuts out how South Carolina

979
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 2: twenty eight to nothing. They were eleven for seventeen on

980
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,800
Speaker 2: third downs. They held South Carolina to two of thirteen

981
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 2: on third downs. And Bryce Perkins again looking real, real

982
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 2: solid for Bronco mendon Hall. I'm excited to see what

983
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 2: he does next season.

984
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, Virginia quietly and it's a weird accar for sure,

985
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:21,840
Speaker 1: but they get to eight wins and it was a

986
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:25,839
Speaker 1: disaster coming in for Bronco Menden Hall in Charlottesville, and

987
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 1: so to get what he's gotten in the who's have

988
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 1: gotten out of Bryce Perkins? Alama das A Kias has

989
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: a nice game again, He's just every week, it seems.

990
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:36,879
Speaker 1: And I should point out Virginia had the better points

991
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 1: for drive defense coming into this. Oh my god, you

992
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 1: you're insufferable. Just well, yeah, that's that's on our podcast, Charter.

993
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 1: But Yeah, it was. It was a very impressive day

994
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:53,359
Speaker 1: for Virginia and I think this was what the belk

995
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:55,879
Speaker 1: ball belk ball mean game. And I had this game

996
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 1: on mute unfortunately because I was watching with some Michigan people.

997
00:51:58,880 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 3: But that's fired.

998
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:03,320
Speaker 1: Wow, I know, I know, but really strong way to

999
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:05,720
Speaker 1: end the season for Virginia. Hey, let's stay in the ACC.

1000
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 2: Wake overcame an eighteen point deficit to edge out Memphis

1001
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 2: in the Birmingham Bull Nice effort here from Jamie Newman,

1002
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 2: Wake's quarterback. He is back next season along with Sam Hartman.

1003
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 2: So Wake has two quarterbacks who have proven that they

1004
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 2: cold play at a pretty high level. Again, nice win

1005
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 2: here for Wake. And what else in the ACC? Oh,

1006
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:32,240
Speaker 2: Syracuse pulling away Yes in the second half from West Virginia.

1007
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:35,879
Speaker 2: They won the Camping World Bowl and congratulations they get

1008
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 2: to ten wins for the very first time since two

1009
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 2: thousand and one.

1010
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 3: I don't know if you watched any of this game.

1011
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 2: It was getting real heated, real heated, and at one

1012
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 2: point I tweeted out that I thought there was going

1013
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 2: to be a fight because it seemed like there were

1014
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 2: a lot of helmets flying around and weird stuff going down.

1015
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 1: But a nice win here for QS. Somebody tweeted out

1016
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 1: that just the phrase getting chippy should be a fantasy thing,

1017
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 1: which absolutely one, yes, it will become a fantasy thing

1018
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 1: because that is the go to phrasing for some fighting.

1019
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 1: And I thought Jack Allison made some throws wasn't super

1020
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:15,839
Speaker 1: accurate for West Virginia. And my initial instinct when looking

1021
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:18,839
Speaker 1: at Syracuse and getting to ten wins including the Bowl,

1022
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 1: even a nine and three Syracuse season is incredible. My

1023
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 1: original instinct was, well, they didn't really play anybody in

1024
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 1: the non conference I guess it was a Notre Dame

1025
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 1: year as an ACC team. So outside of that, you know,

1026
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 1: it's Wagner and Western Michigan and Yukon whatever, and the

1027
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 1: ACC was down, and like there's just some contexts. You know,

1028
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:39,839
Speaker 1: North Carolina's down, and Wake isn't great, Louisville down year

1029
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:42,360
Speaker 1: to say like, okay, it was a perfect storm for

1030
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:44,359
Speaker 1: Syracuse to go nine and three, but you know what,

1031
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 1: screw that. Syracuse had a really good year. Eric Dungee

1032
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,720
Speaker 1: had a really nice career, was beat up it seemed

1033
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:52,840
Speaker 1: like every other week, and fought through a lot of pain.

1034
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 1: Really cool story to see to see Cuse finish as

1035
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 1: a top twenty team and get to ten including the

1036
00:53:58,160 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 1: bowl game.

1037
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 2: So there are eleven games, not including the National Championship

1038
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 2: yet to be played. Those games, of course, start on

1039
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 2: New Year's Rock and Eve at high noon with Cincinnati

1040
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 2: and Virginia Tech. It extends all the way through the

1041
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 2: Sugar Bowls. You're plague at eight forty five Eastern on

1042
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 2: New Year's Day between Texas and Georgia down there in

1043
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 2: New Orleans. We will be back on Wednesday to recap

1044
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 2: a lot of these games here that obviously we can't

1045
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 2: recap at the current moment, and then we'll be back

1046
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 2: on Sunday to preview the big one, the National Championship

1047
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 2: between Clemson and Alabama. Right now, the points spread is

1048
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 2: six points in favor of the Crimson Tide. You're over

1049
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:44,359
Speaker 2: under about sixty hovering right around there, fifty nine and

1050
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 2: a half on my screen at time of recording. So

1051
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,919
Speaker 2: got a lot more college football to discuss here. It's

1052
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:52,840
Speaker 2: been a fun bowl season so far, with a lot

1053
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 2: of intriguing storylines. It all culminated yesterday with of course,

1054
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 2: the playoff, which you know, personally I wish would have

1055
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:02,840
Speaker 2: went a little bit differently. However, it wasn't unexpected in

1056
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 2: the end when we've got Clemson in Alabama now set

1057
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 2: the square off again for the fourth time in as

1058
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:07,840
Speaker 2: many years.

1059
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,320
Speaker 1: And if you haven't yet, we previewed the games. So

1060
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 1: if you're listening to this Sunday Monday and you're wondering

1061
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 1: about previews for the games on Monday and Tuesday, we've

1062
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 1: done those. Those are in our playoff previews. I think

1063
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 1: it is it only five? We did five Bowl previews? No,

1064
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 1: I know, But is show number five the one with

1065
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 1: the games on Monday and Tuesday or is there a

1066
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 1: little bit of four in there as well?

1067
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 2: The fourth one include The fourth show includes three games

1068
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 2: I believe from year's Eve, and then the rest of

1069
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 2: the games are in Bowl preview number five.

1070
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 1: Are there specific games, as we say, we're not previewing them,

1071
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 1: but that you are particularly looking forward to With these

1072
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 1: last few matchups.

1073
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:48,839
Speaker 2: It'd be a lot easier for me to make some

1074
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 2: of my arguments if Georgia got dismantled by Texas in

1075
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 2: the Sugar Bowl, or or if Washington were to take

1076
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 2: the screws to Ohio State, I would feel much better

1077
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,839
Speaker 2: about my standing for the next eight months or so

1078
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:03,359
Speaker 2: in dealing with.

1079
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 3: Notre Dame didn't deserved.

1080
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 2: I would feel much better if those two situations came

1081
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:11,399
Speaker 2: to pass. I don't think either will, but yeah, I'll

1082
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 2: be watching those games. I think Washington Ohio State's a

1083
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:18,400
Speaker 2: fun matchup. UCF to me is intriguing just because so

1084
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 2: many players on the LSU side are going to be

1085
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 2: sitting out, even more so than what we discussed in

1086
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 2: our Bowl preview. There's a bunch of guys in that

1087
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 2: defense weren't playing in this game.

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00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,320
Speaker 1: I think that's the narrative Bowl. There's a lot of

1089
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 1: narrative on the line with LSU UCF, with LSU beating

1090
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 1: Georgia and UCF potentially winning what twenty twenty sixth straight game.

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00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 1: NC State texts A and M to me, has an

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00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:43,719
Speaker 1: opportunity to just be a flat out fun game, as

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00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 1: does MISSOO, Oklahoma State and Stanford Pitt. If Pitt can

1094
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 1: run the ball and Stanford's throwing it, I think you

1095
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:52,240
Speaker 1: get a lot of a good matchup of different types

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00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 1: of offensive success. So I'm hoping for the best. That

1097
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 1: game's got some serious cheese at Bowl potential. It also

1098
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:00,839
Speaker 1: does have some cheese at Bowl potential. I mean it's

1099
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:04,240
Speaker 1: the Sun Bowl and it's the kind of bowl. They're like, ooh,

1100
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:06,720
Speaker 1: things are not happening in any sort of fun college

1101
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 1: football way. But that's fine. That's we need. We need

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00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 1: some of those to balance out everything else. My only

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00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 1: question to you now, Ty is one, how'd Christmas go?

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00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 1: Christmas is good? Yeah, because we haven't recorded since. No.

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00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 1: Do you want to review any any of the gifts

1106
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 1: you got others? Do you want to review it? Gifts

1107
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 1: people got you? You've sent me one of your gifts.

1108
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 1: I think you were super excited for not something I

1109
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 1: would have anticipated you getting for Christmas. You got a

1110
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 1: hedge trimmer.

1111
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 3: I'm Susie homemaker. Now you know that you.

1112
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 1: Got a big old yard. You gotta you gotta trim. Yeah.

1113
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 1: Did you have a hedge trimmer before? That is now

1114
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 1: being replaced?

1115
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 3: No?

1116
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 1: God, no, no, what did you get anything else? Of note?

1117
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 2: No? Well, what I was The way I was going

1118
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 2: to answer that question is by just saying, it's always

1119
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 2: more exciting to give the gifts to the little kids

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00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 2: than it is to receive gifts as an adult. So

1121
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 2: that was that was fun giving some Harry Potter gifts

1122
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 2: to my niece and nephew, and you know the outrage

1123
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 2: that ensued when one got something that the other wanted.

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00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 3: That was exciting, That was exciting.

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00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 1: What were they like action figures with what kind of

1126
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 1: Harry Potter stuff?

1127
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 2: Well, no, we're talking Harry Potter Legos versus Star Wars Legos.

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00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 3: And my nephew.

1129
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 1: So glad you brought this up.

1130
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 2: My nephew wanted the Harry Potter Quidditch set mm hmm,

1131
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 2: and my niece got it. And so after she recognized

1132
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 2: that he wanted her gift, she had the wherewithal to

1133
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 2: hold her hands up above her head and yelvy injustice,

1134
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 2: which really only made things worse for the little guy.

1135
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 2: But that was fun to watch from afar. They are

1136
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 2: just it was perfect.

1137
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 1: I love Legos and I had a question for you, ty,

1138
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 1: Is it too late for me and Legos? No? God, no,

1139
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 1: are you kidding me? I am. I'm a proud member

1140
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 1: of the Open Floor Globe. Our friends Ben Golliver and

1141
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 1: Andrew Sharp they're both into Legos. Yeah, no, there's it

1142
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 1: almost like they treat it like meditation, like it centers them. Yeah,

1143
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 1: just like, Okay, I can focus on this thing and

1144
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 1: my mind is only on this thing. And I haven't

1145
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 1: thought about Legos in a long time, but I was

1146
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 1: going to ask you if any Legos were involved. And man,

1147
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 1: I'd love to build like just a giant gas station.

1148
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 1: I want to build a space shuttle. I want to

1149
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 1: build the Sphinx like that's as like the further and

1150
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 1: further we get into a world of like apps and

1151
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 1: tablets and Roku, Apple whatever, Apple watches. All I want

1152
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 1: to do is build a space shuttle. It's all I

1153
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:34,680
Speaker 1: want out of life. So the problem is Jody with

1154
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 1: an eye bless her. We live in a New York apartment,

1155
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 1: and anytime I even buy a pair of shoes, she's like,

1156
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 1: what the hell is going on? We do not have

1157
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 1: room for this tiny plant, and so to bring in

1158
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:48,439
Speaker 1: a giant box of Legos would probably not go over

1159
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 1: super well. So I'm glad your your niece and nephew

1160
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 1: are Lego maniacs in training.

1161
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 2: New Year's plans, New Year's plans. I think we're going

1162
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 2: with a solid wife's brother's place.

1163
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, you're not doing like that prefix one hundred

1164
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 1: dollars ahead. No no, no, no, I try balloons.

1165
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 2: Now, A lot of people were asking us about this

1166
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 2: on Yeah the Instagram feed. Both you and I are

1167
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 2: of the same mind that New Year's Eve is wildly overrated.

1168
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 1: If I make it to ten thirty, that might be

1169
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 1: the upset of Bowl season. New Year's Eve, We're going

1170
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 1: to a five thirty dinner because we're going with the

1171
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 1: family with little kids, and that's what time little kids eat,

1172
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 1: and your your pal Dan does not et five thirty dinners.

1173
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 1: So that'll be around halftime into the Red Box Bowl,

1174
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 1: which I guess I'll just DVR find some way to catch.

1175
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 1: I'm not all that broken over missing part of that,

1176
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 1: so I'll watch games, we'll get some I don't know,

1177
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 1: we're gonna get Chinese food or Japanese food or something

1178
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 1: like that, and then watch whatever I missed and go

1179
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 1: to sleep at a reasonable hour. New Year's Day. I'm

1180
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 1: gonna make my New Year's Day dip watch games around here.

1181
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 1: Maybe I have a couple friends over nothing all that exciting.

1182
01:00:58,040 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 3: Fair enough.

1183
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 2: Let me close out with an anecdote from my watching

1184
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 2: the Notre Dame playoff loss with Mama.

1185
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 1: H Oh, Yes, how is she?

1186
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 3: My h is fine?

1187
01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 1: My h was perturbed by the showing by Notre Dame yesterday. Obviously,

1188
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:17,440
Speaker 1: again we're Mike Brave people. Now, we are Mike Brave people.

1189
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 2: So as you might expect, if you read my Twitter account,

1190
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 2: you could tell that I was pretty active on the

1191
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:28,439
Speaker 2: Twitter sphere, as I guess is somewhat of an expectation now,

1192
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 2: being so we do this show and we're noted fans

1193
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:35,080
Speaker 2: of our particular teams. But I wasn't talking quite as

1194
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 2: much to Mama H as I think mom H would

1195
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 2: have liked. Mom H was kind of left out to

1196
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 2: dry watching this game, and I was quiet, kind of

1197
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:44,640
Speaker 2: trapped in my own little little cyber world. And so

1198
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 2: at one point she says to me, what are you

1199
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 2: doing over there? You? What are you so enthralled with

1200
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 2: over there? And I said, well, I'm on Twitter? So

1201
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 2: what you What are you doing on Twitter? I said,

1202
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 2: I'm reading, I'm tweeting about the game. She looks at

1203
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:00,080
Speaker 2: me with this face.

1204
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 1: And she says, why, what.

1205
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 2: The f are you going to say? And I thought

1206
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:11,920
Speaker 2: to myself, Wow, that's really a great model for Twitter.

1207
01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:14,840
Speaker 1: I'm constantly I use it less. This is not to

1208
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:17,760
Speaker 1: pat myself on my own back, but I use it less.

1209
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 1: And then when I check in and you miss like

1210
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 1: when something becomes a thing, when everybody starts cracking a

1211
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 1: joke about the same thing or is outraged about the

1212
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 1: same thing. The only thing that strikes me is, you

1213
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 1: know what, I'm pretty glad I miss this. I'm pretty

1214
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 1: glad all these other people have so much time on

1215
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:35,000
Speaker 1: their hands that they can just like live tweet, Twitter

1216
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:38,000
Speaker 1: and I somehow manage to do something a little bit

1217
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:41,480
Speaker 1: more productive, not that much more productive, but Twitter stuff.

1218
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:44,439
Speaker 3: Why what the f are you going to say?

1219
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 2: Getting dunked on by your bomb as your team is

1220
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:49,840
Speaker 2: getting dunked on by a clearly superior opponent in the

1221
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 2: Clemson Tigers.

1222
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, what are you gonna say? There's not much there.

1223
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:56,520
Speaker 2: On that note. Thank you for tuning into the show.

1224
01:02:56,960 --> 01:03:00,080
Speaker 2: My name is Ty, his name is Dan. We are

1225
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 2: the Solid Verbal. If you haven't yet subscribed, you can

1226
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 2: find us at iTunes, dot com, slash Solid Verbal, or

1227
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 2: anywhere where you get your podcast. You can also find

1228
01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 2: us on social media Twitter, Facebook, Instagram.

1229
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 3: Stay tuned.

1230
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:15,600
Speaker 2: Over the next couple days and weeks, we'll be talking

1231
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 2: more about these bowl games and certainly the national championship.

1232
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 2: On January the seventh, between Yes, the Clemson Tigers and

1233
01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 2: Alabama Crimson Tide in the meantime, for that guy over

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01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 2: there in New York City, for myself tie here in

1235
01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 2: eastern Pennsylvania. Thanks again for listening to the show. Enjoy

1236
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:35,760
Speaker 2: the rest of your week and your weekend.

1237
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:36,560
Speaker 3: We'll talk to you soon.

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01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 1: In the meantime, stay solid, he