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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. What is up, ladies and gentlemen. It's me

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Speaker 1: Jason McIntyre joined by my main man, LeVar Arrington. What's happening,

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Speaker 1: Jane Matt. Yeah, we are filling in on the Dan

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Speaker 1: Patrick Show live from Los Angeles. A gorgeous Tuesday? Is

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Speaker 1: today Tuesday? Or Onesday? Nah day? July six? I'm feeling

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Speaker 1: a baby, I am. I had a great July fourth weekend.

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Speaker 1: How about you, LaVar? How was it? Yeah? Man, it

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Speaker 1: was really good, and you know it was actually good

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Speaker 1: what day and time it is. I mean, feeling pretty

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Speaker 1: good man, happy to be on radio. Well, it's not

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Speaker 1: used to the NBA Finals starting this late usually right now.

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Speaker 1: You know, we just sifted through NBA free agency and

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Speaker 1: we're getting used to, like, oh, NFL camps are opening up.

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Speaker 1: It now everything's pushed back, So NBA Finals start tonight,

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Speaker 1: Sons and Bucks. We'll get to your interest level in

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Speaker 1: dealership today, uh LeVar Ryton. I will start off by

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Speaker 1: asking you other than how your summer's gone so far,

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Speaker 1: as I just got back from Hawaii, which was very cool.

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Speaker 1: Yeah I was. I was a little aggressive on the Instagram,

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Speaker 1: but it was good to be good to be on

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Speaker 1: a flight and vacation again. I'll start with this, you know,

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Speaker 1: like the NBA Finals kickoff tonight. The Suns are heavy favorites,

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Speaker 1: Jannis listed as doubtful. What's your interest level? Man, Like,

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Speaker 1: are you blocking off three hours tonight for the game

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Speaker 1: or are you just like I'll pick it up in

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Speaker 1: the second half and see what's going on. No, I'm

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Speaker 1: definitely pumped up to see see the game. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think it's a great matchup. J Mac Listen, We've

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Speaker 1: had plenty of debates on Dispute and other shows that

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Speaker 1: that we have done together, and you know, looking at

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Speaker 1: how things have unfolded in the NBA playoffs this year,

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Speaker 1: I'm excited to see some new faces, some new energy,

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Speaker 1: some new fans, you know, the the approach to this

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Speaker 1: finals is h kind of it just breaks the norm.

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Speaker 1: And for that alone, I'm really excited to see. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm a fan of Booker. Um, We're seeing the

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Speaker 1: emergence of Middleton. He came up short last year when

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Speaker 1: Jannis had uh an injury take place, but then now

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Speaker 1: you see the addition of PJ. Tucker and Drew Holliday.

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Speaker 1: It just changed the dynamic of this team. Um. There's

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Speaker 1: a toughness about him that that was not present last

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Speaker 1: last playoff year. So to see to see the Milwaukee

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Speaker 1: Bucks with a former two time back to back MVP

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Speaker 1: not even playing in the finals. Um, and then obviously

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Speaker 1: the Chris Paul story, along with with with Devin Booker

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Speaker 1: and a few others, the emergence of Aiden. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm just really excited about it. Mac. What about you? Wow, Leavar.

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Speaker 1: I gotta be honest, I'm a little surprised that you,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you went deep there. I thought this would

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Speaker 1: be like, you know, we'll see what happens. DeAndre Ayton

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Speaker 1: ooh exciting. Uh Man, Let's be honest, this is the

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Speaker 1: first time in a decade, LaVar that Steph Curry or

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Speaker 1: Lebron will not be featured in the finals. Wow a decade. Okay,

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Speaker 1: We're used to greatness and the legends and all time greats,

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Speaker 1: and now we're settled for Chris Paul versus Drew Holliday.

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Speaker 1: I mean, come on, Drew Holliday got lit up by

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Speaker 1: Trey Young for forty eight points in Game one last series. Like,

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Speaker 1: I just it's tough for me to think the Bucks

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Speaker 1: have a chance here without Jannis Um. I will watch obviously, Listen,

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie to you, guys. Um As someone

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Speaker 1: who bought into a soccer team recently, I'm very into

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Speaker 1: Euro twenty twenty. The soccer has been phenomenal. Wimbled in

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Speaker 1: a little less so. But these NBA finals are a

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Speaker 1: tough sell for me. LeVar. You know what I started yesterday.

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Speaker 1: I broke out my NFL depth charts and started going

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Speaker 1: into every single team I started in your favorite division,

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Speaker 1: the NFC East. I'm just like, you know, listen, the

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Speaker 1: finals are good, They're gonna be fun. Hopefully we'll get

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Speaker 1: some good basketball, but um, you know, maybe Kendall Jenner

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Speaker 1: will show up. To support d book in the valley

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Speaker 1: and I'm sure you know the networks will us entertaining

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Speaker 1: part of the finals, but that will come on. Listen,

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Speaker 1: when we could get a Kardashian um adjacent into the finals,

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Speaker 1: come on, that's huge, you know something. Some things will

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Speaker 1: stay the same. Then a finals. You got to sell

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Speaker 1: it to the casual fan man uh And LaVar, I'm

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Speaker 1: a big Devin Booker fan. I mean, the guy is

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Speaker 1: a phenomenal player. But when you tossed in the Kendall

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Speaker 1: Chris Paul in the light? Like you know? It's I don't,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, LaVar. I mean, I'm not. I'm a

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Speaker 1: big NBA guy. You know that We've had many sparring

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Speaker 1: battles on the NBA. But LaVar, I'll keep it one

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Speaker 1: hundred with you right now. This is a Sun Suite. Hmmm.

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Speaker 1: I don't buy it. I don't, I do not buy it.

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Speaker 1: I will say this from my perspective, I do believe

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Speaker 1: that this is obviously Chris Paul's biggest opportunity to solidify

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Speaker 1: a brilliant career. I don't I don't foresee this being

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Speaker 1: a yearly thing for Chris Hall in the Suns. I

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Speaker 1: think they're really a really good team. I think they

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Speaker 1: have a ton of great talent on this team. I

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Speaker 1: think it's a very well balanced team. But it's just

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Speaker 1: very difficult to be a repeat team going to the

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Speaker 1: NBA Finals. And I just think that this if just

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Speaker 1: for one series, one season, the brilliance of Chris Paul's

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Speaker 1: career is on display for everyone to see in a series.

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Speaker 1: I think that there is a lot riding on him

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Speaker 1: playing well and these Suns playing well, and I think

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Speaker 1: that there's a tremendous entertainment value to that. But with

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Speaker 1: that being said, the Milwaukee Bucks, even without Jannis, could

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Speaker 1: be the kryptonite to a magical season for this Sun's team.

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Speaker 1: So I'm interested to watch because you know what, you

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Speaker 1: very well could be correct. This could be a sweep series,

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Speaker 1: but you could very well be way way way off

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Speaker 1: because I think that there's something about this Milwaukee Bucks team,

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Speaker 1: Because I think that there was something about that Atlanta

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Speaker 1: by both teams. Matter of fact, I think all three

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Speaker 1: teams that we're talking about, the Sons, the Milwaukee Bucks,

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Speaker 1: and the Atlanta Hawks that unfortunately for Hawks fans, it

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Speaker 1: came to a screechy holt in an end. But Milwaukee

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Speaker 1: earned that series. They won it without there. They're a superstar.

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Speaker 1: And to me, I think it goes without saying this

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Speaker 1: is going to be a super entertaining series. I don't

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Speaker 1: see it being a sweep. I actually see this being

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Speaker 1: a dog fight series. And and think about it again,

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Speaker 1: for the Phoenix Sons, what the last time they had

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Speaker 1: this opportunity was with with kJ and and Dad Marley

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Speaker 1: And then the Milwaukee Bucks, what's been been since the seventies,

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Speaker 1: since then they've had one and that's a title town.

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Speaker 1: Don't forget the Green Bay Packers are there. They're coming

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Speaker 1: years straight. So these are both fan bases that that

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Speaker 1: would love to see their basketball teams solidify a championship,

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Speaker 1: and I think there's a lot of cool little story

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Speaker 1: lines that are going to play outdoor series. So LeVar,

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Speaker 1: let's be honest. I'm not being a hater, Okay, I'm

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Speaker 1: just okay, facts in reality here, Okay, I got you.

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Speaker 1: If Anthony Davis just not go down, do the Sons

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Speaker 1: beat the Lakers? It was too one say yeah, I

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Speaker 1: did not say yeah, I see Okay, Okay. If Jamal

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Speaker 1: remember Jamal Murray what he did in the bubble last year,

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Speaker 1: that Denver Nuggets team. If I researched, I did love

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Speaker 1: the Denver Nuggets team to do well before Jamal Murray

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Speaker 1: went down. All right. Finally, if Kawhi Leonard plays in

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Speaker 1: of the paper clips more than anybody else do. For me,

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Speaker 1: I say, if if Donovan Mitchell stays healthy and Rudy

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Speaker 1: a coaching adjustment to what they did to Rudy Gobert

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Speaker 1: in that series. I say, I say, the Utah Jazz

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Speaker 1: thought that they would be. But you know, there's a

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Speaker 1: whole lot of butts and would have, could have, should

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Speaker 1: have And that's what makes sports so amazing. Jay Matthew,

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Speaker 1: you know this, you know, And so for what it's worth,

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Speaker 1: that's why you played the games is because things happen,

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Speaker 1: and competitive edges are everywhere and they come from everywhere,

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Speaker 1: and you get those opportunities every once in a while

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Speaker 1: where you don't have to go through a Kawhi Leonard

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Speaker 1: it happen to Trey Young. Jannis is still probably not

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Speaker 1: a lot of ways that series could have fell apart

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Speaker 1: I have a podcast Daily Straight Fire, and I didn't

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Speaker 1: say they were healthy. You know what I said, LaVar,

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Speaker 1: The Suns had the easiest path to the finals in

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Speaker 1: NBA history. And of course Phoenix Suns hate my guts,

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Speaker 1: death threats on the Instagram DM. People just so angry

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Speaker 1: that you're being honest. And again, these are just the

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Speaker 1: Who cares? They will look back and laugh, and LaVar,

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Speaker 1: you know this playing in the NFL. In the moment, yes,

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Speaker 1: the Suns had the easiest path. But five years from now,

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Speaker 1: in that series. Five years ago Anthony Davis went down

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Speaker 1: and get people to just forget okay, and all it's

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Speaker 1: first time in NBA Finals history. I believe the Bucks

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Speaker 1: then of course just Choke City by my Knicks. Uh,

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Speaker 1: upset when Barkley could not pull it off. And thunder

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Speaker 1: Dan and Kevin Johnson, those were those were strong teens.

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Speaker 1: me Jason McIntyre in with my main man, LeVar Arrington,

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Speaker 1: have you been too happy Valley in a minute? You know,

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Speaker 1: You should always check if you're doing those things before

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Speaker 1: you start speaking your own private personal conversation comments because

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Speaker 1: your media always got to assume as a hot mic.

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Speaker 1: And I say that to say, he who is void

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00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 1: of sin cast the first stone. So in the end,

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Speaker 1: if you're gonna tell me all the outrage that's connected

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Speaker 1: to a minority woman speaking on not getting an opportunity

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Speaker 1: because of something that in the in she's absolutely correct

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00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 1: in what she's saying. A lot of what has taken place,

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00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 1: a lot of the opportunities that some people have received

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Speaker 1: is because of pressure from what took place in our

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Speaker 1: country in terms of the social unrest that was taking place,

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00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,160
Speaker 1: the Black Lives Matter movement and different things that we're

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00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 1: taking place. So if you're having a personal conversation about

436
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 1: why you felt something happened the way that it happened,

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00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,680
Speaker 1: let me tell you something. There's a lot worse things

438
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 1: she could have said. Oh yeah, there were a lot

439
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 1: worse things she could have said in that personal moment, certainly,

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00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 1: but levard this is where it gets complicated. Obviously, Maria

441
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,439
Speaker 1: Taylor was outraged when she heard it, and she did

442
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 1: not take Rachel Nichols calls and texts. And this is

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00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,640
Speaker 1: where it gets weird. For ESPN. All of a sudden,

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00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 1: it became a divide among their whole NBA crew. Okay,

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00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 1: are you on the Rachel side or are you on

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00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 1: the Maria Taylor side? And the NBA, according to the

447
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:01,239
Speaker 1: New York Kinds, the NBA Countdown crew started to say, well,

448
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: I'm not going on the jump some show that Rachel

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00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 1: Nichols has. And then there were the people from the

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00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 1: Jump who were like, well, I like Maria, I know her,

451
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 1: can I can I still do both? And I was like, oh,

452
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 1: so yesterday Kendrick Perkins was scheduled to go on the

453
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,959
Speaker 1: jump with Richard Jefferson. Side note, I know Richard Jefferson

454
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 1: a little bit. He owns a yoga studio out here.

455
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 1: I go to it, we talk, blah blah blah. So

456
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,640
Speaker 1: Richard Jefferson and Kendrick Perkins appear and all these people

457
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 1: on social media, largely African American fans on Twitter, are

458
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 1: like outrage at them. How could you go on that

459
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 1: show with her and not side with Maria Taylor? And

460
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 1: now it's become like a racial issue. So ESPN is

461
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 1: back into a corner. What do we do? And of

462
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 1: course complicating matters, LaVar, And you know and I know

463
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 1: about contract talks. Maria Taylor's contract is up at ESPN,

464
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 1: and everybody is talked about it a lot. Here is

465
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 1: the apology audio right with the contract talk coming up.

466
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 1: New York Post is writing about it. Here is the

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00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: apology audio from Rachel Nichols yesterday on the job. So

468
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 1: the first thing they teach you in journalism school is

469
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 1: don't be the story. And I don't plan to break

470
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 1: that rule today or distract from a fantastic finals. But

471
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 1: I also don't want to let this moment pass without

472
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,719
Speaker 1: saying how much I respect, how much I value our

473
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:18,959
Speaker 1: colleagues here at ESPN, how deeply, deeply sorry I am

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00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:23,399
Speaker 1: for disappointing those I heard, particularly Maria Taylor, and how

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00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 1: grateful I am to be part of this outstanding team.

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Speaker 1: M LeVar, I don't know that's I don't find the

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00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 1: genuine necessary nature, but it comes out after the New

478
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: York Times. Yeah, it's kind of whack cheese. But but

479
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: in in the end, she's she's doing what she feels

480
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 1: as professionally what she's supposed to do. Um and and

481
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: she's got to deal with the repercussions of what happened.

482
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 1: I mean, that's just we're all held accountable for any

483
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 1: missteps that we may have. LeVar. Let's be she didn't

484
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 1: in the initial audio, she didn't really bash Maria Taylor.

485
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 1: She was more ticked off that she was losing her

486
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: job to someone who doesn't have the experience, hasn't done enough,

487
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 1: Like I don't know, you could quibble in whether or

488
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 1: not she earned it, but that's what she was ticked off.

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00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 1: She's like, I like Maria, have her take someone else's job,

490
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 1: not mine, right, So it's not like she was bashing Taylor.

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00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 1: But of course, you know how this is. I did

492
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: still become like a white black issue and females backbiting

493
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 1: and like, man, that shows you how crazy, but that

494
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:34,479
Speaker 1: shows you how soft and how just into like, there

495
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 1: are a lot of messed ups things going on in

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00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 1: the racial stratosphere of our culture, and this isn't one

497
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 1: of them. This isn't one of them because here's and

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00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: the whole cast of Stone deal. What I was getting

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00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 1: at is, if if we could listen to the conversations

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Speaker 1: that these people that are outraged with Rachel Nichols, what

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00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 1: they say in their private time, I'm sure that we

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00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 1: would be able to extract, extrapolate some some conversation that

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00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 1: would be less than flattering and probably racial, racial undertones

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00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 1: or overtones to what the conversations are now. With me

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00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 1: saying that that's not me justifying Rachel Nichols getting caught

506
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 1: out there talking trash, but what I will say is

507
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 1: is that when you look at situations like these, it's

508
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 1: now become it's now become the trend to do cancel culture.

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00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 1: So now all of a sudden, it's like, call for

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00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 1: Rachel Nichols job or she shouldn't have the opportunity she's

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00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 1: she's a brilliant She's a brilliant reporter, brilliant uh you

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00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 1: know analysts with what she does. She hosts well, I

513
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 1: mean I've been interviewed by her. I think she does

514
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 1: a fine job of interviewing UM and I look at

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00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 1: Maria Taylor and I think that she is an up

516
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 1: and coming superstar in this business. So in the end,

517
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 1: if somebody said if Rachel you know, not if she

518
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 1: said some things that weren't all flattering about Maria Taylor.

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00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 1: You know, for what it's worth, this is still America.

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00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 1: You can say what you you you feel, and you

521
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: have to be prepared to deal with the repercussions of

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00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 1: things that you may say. If it's so egregious or

523
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 1: so derogatory, or so hate driven that it core you know,

524
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: something new to happen, you know you're losing your job.

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00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 1: A lot of this has to do with ego, right,

526
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 1: of course it does. Rachel Nichols, she's been around the wild.

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00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 1: She initially had to leave ESPN to go to CNN

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00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 1: to get her own show, and then she comes back

529
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 1: to ESPN and gets her own shows she couldn't have

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00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 1: one initially ESPN. So like she's been in the business

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00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 1: for a while now, Maria Taylor has worked up Sideline

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00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 1: Reporter or two wherever. She is now host of NBA

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00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 1: and other shows. And who cares how she's got in there? Correct, Yeah,

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00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: I don't care. If it's because she's black and now

535
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 1: it's time to give black people more opportunities. So what

536
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: if that's what she needed to use, then use it. Yeah,

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00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 1: you know, LaVar. How many people listening right now are like, Oh,

538
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 1: Levar's only on there because he played in the NFL.

539
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 1: And this McIntire guy, why the hell is he hosting

540
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 1: Dan Patrick? What has he done? And then you know people, oh, wait,

541
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 1: he did do that, and now okay, got it, and

542
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,239
Speaker 1: like everybody's gonna make excuses why you should not be there,

543
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 1: But guess what, you earned it. You got there. You

544
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 1: fought and claude and worked your butt off to get

545
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 1: where you are, and you don't want to give that up, right,

546
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 1: And I can understand what Rachel Nichols is pissed. I have,

547
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 1: Jay Mac. I'll have moments where I might hate on

548
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 1: another guy that's in the business. I've never done that.

549
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 1: I had I of course I've done that everybody. We're human, man,

550
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 1: Come on, let me let's spin it for work at

551
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 1: this I work at this thing here. I worked my

552
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 1: my my tail off to be as good as I

553
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: can possibly be. And you know some people that I

554
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 1: see get ahead, you know, it's like they're not met

555
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 1: in the work. Is that person putting in the work. So, LaVar,

556
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: you are president of ESPN for the next three minutes, Okay,

557
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: you have to decide this situation how what is a

558
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 1: smart resolution or a resolution attempt? And again, ego is

559
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 1: the keyword here. I don't want to quote the salary

560
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: numbers that Maria Taylor is allegedly asking for. They've been

561
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 1: written about in multiple places, but they are probably numbers

562
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: that you made on your rookie contract with the Washington

563
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 1: Redskins at the time or in that ballpark, which you know,

564
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna rip her on the Dan Patrick Show

565
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 1: for that, but that's out there. What do you do

566
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 1: as a potential solution if you're ESPN, how do you

567
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 1: resolve this? Well? I think that you have to have

568
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 1: already resolved it. If I'm the president, I've already resolved it.

569
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: I've already had conversations with all parties involved, and we're

570
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: moving forward, upward and onward. This is not this is

571
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:08,280
Speaker 1: not a situation that is volatile enough to derail what's

572
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 1: going on at ESPN. I do find it to be

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00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 1: very very intriguing that the admission from from from Rachel

574
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:24,720
Speaker 1: Nichols actually kind of highlights the pressure that they're feeling

575
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 1: from you know, for um, using using black people. I

576
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:34,839
Speaker 1: would assume that's that's you know, um what it is? Um.

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00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: It definitely, it definitely raises a flag in terms of

578
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:47,280
Speaker 1: how are we looking at Maria Taylor. You know, because

579
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: in the end, if if another minority is calling out

580
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:56,280
Speaker 1: another minority and the minority being that it's a black woman,

581
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: not just a woman like she's already had to deal

582
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: with some of the same issues that Maria Taylor has

583
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: had to deal with. So for her not to have

584
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 1: sensitivities towards it at a higher clip, that says to

585
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 1: me that she's looking at this as a very real issue,

586
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 1: that this is why she got passed over or didn't

587
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: get the job, or got it taken away from her

588
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:25,800
Speaker 1: for this very very real issue that's taking place in

589
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:30,240
Speaker 1: terms of race relations and minority relations as it applies

590
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 1: specifically to one racial group. So, if I'm the president

591
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: of ESPN right now, he had better have had the

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00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 1: conversations with both both parties, both Maria Taylor and with

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00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 1: Rachel Nichols, because I don't see this being horrible enough

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00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 1: where you get rid of Rachel Nichols for this, and

595
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 1: if you do, you're setting a very very dangerous precedence

596
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 1: on how things are done. And how they're managed and

597
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: how they're governed, especially in the way that this audio

598
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: was you know, how it was captured. So I would

599
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 1: say the only challenge of that is we're in the

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00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 1: middle of the NBA Finals and obviously this is a

601
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 1: heavy lifting for everyone involved, and it's you know, you

602
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 1: don't want to derail the coverage by bringing them in

603
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 1: and having some kind of sit down, peace treaty if

604
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: you will. You want to know the bigger issue, though,

605
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: Jay Mac, what's a bigger issue. The bigger issue is

606
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:31,240
Speaker 1: not what ESPN does. The bigger issue here is because

607
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: cancel society, cancel culture is running so rampant, you gotta

608
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 1: wonder and worry about what's going to happen in terms

609
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: of Rachel's reputation and how that'll be handled. Well, that's

610
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,879
Speaker 1: and that's a big thing. The biggest thing social media.

611
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: And again I say I've been saying this for several years. Guys.

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00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 1: I've worked with people who let social media get to

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00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: their head. And LeVar you, you and I know this.

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00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 1: You've got a family. At the end of the day,

615
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 1: when you're done talking about sports and reading about sports,

616
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,359
Speaker 1: you go to your family and you hang with them.

617
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 1: And you're not talking about sports. You talk about life

618
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:05,320
Speaker 1: and what's on the schedule and how you have to

619
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: take somebody to swim practice and that normal life stuff.

620
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 1: If you don't have that outlet, and at the end

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Speaker 1: of the day, all you're doing is reading social media

622
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: and you're on Twitter and you're on Facebook and all

623
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: this crap leavart that gets in your head, and I've

624
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 1: seen it getting people's head. Yeah, you end up thinking

625
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 1: that it's everything in the world that a bunch of

626
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 1: jabronies with uh no avatar, you know, an idiot phase

627
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 1: seventy three on Twitter, that's their handle. They're bashing you

628
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: like that matters. It doesn't mean a damn thing. And

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00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,320
Speaker 1: you've really got to put the social media away. And

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00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: I'm hopeful. I know, Maria Taylor's pretty young. I don't

631
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: know how many if Rachel Nichols says kids or whatever.

632
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 1: But if you don't have an outlet at the end

633
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,800
Speaker 1: of the day to get away from this nonsense, it

634
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Speaker 1: is really bad news. I've seen it. Trash about it

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Speaker 1: and talk trash about Yeah, I'll talk trash about you

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Speaker 1: all the time that I got it. I know, I've

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Speaker 1: worked with the massive trash talkers. You know, it's it's

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Speaker 1: it can be a nightmare, but ultimately, like I know

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Speaker 1: you're a good guy and you know you've got to listen.

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Speaker 1: We gotta have thick skin. We got in this business man.

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Speaker 1: You know it's media. It's me when you're when you're

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Speaker 1: hosting one of the biggest radio show. Because we are

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Speaker 1: right now in the country. I've got to be ready

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Speaker 1: to open social media in an hour because I'm not

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Speaker 1: doing it now. Somebody, those guys suck people, You're the worst.

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Speaker 1: You suck and they spelt you're wrong because you know

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Speaker 1: that's what these people do. Um. But anyway, I know

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Speaker 1: some people would be like, what do you guys, how

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Speaker 1: is that even a topic? LaVar? I think that is

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Speaker 1: one of these spiciest topics in sports right now. Oh

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Speaker 1: and we're talking about it. And you know what, you're

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Speaker 1: the host, I'm co hosting with you. You're driving the show.

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Speaker 1: You can choose what you want to talk about, and

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Speaker 1: you know what they can do. They can choose whether

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Speaker 1: they want to listen or not go from there. That's

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Speaker 1: how this whole thing can's out there right now in

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Speaker 1: the radio. Are not great? That big said coming up next.

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Speaker 1: You know Aaron Rodgers. Did you hear what Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: said about the Green Bay Packers. I mean it's recent.

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Speaker 1: I think he'd happened in the last couple of hours.

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Speaker 1: He's he's doing golf. I guess he's playing golf. Today's

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Speaker 1: is he playing golf today? Swoll? I'm gonna start calling

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Speaker 1: you LaVar swoll Errington because I know TJ. Housvenzada has

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Speaker 1: been getting at you to get after it all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, now you start showing up on the Graham

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Speaker 1: just jacked. Yeah, I'm getting it in man. You know,

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Speaker 1: all my kids we're all in the weight room, so

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Speaker 1: they got me going. Now. Aaron Rodgers not in the

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Speaker 1: weight room, but he's doing something else's offseason to help

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Speaker 1: his rift with the Packers front office. Will day about

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Speaker 1: that next year on The Dan Patrick Show. Nice Thanks

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Speaker 1: for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure

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Speaker 1: to catch us live every weekday morning nine until noon

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Speaker 1: eastern six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, and

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Speaker 1: you can find us on the iHeartRadio app at FSR

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Speaker 1: or stream us live on the Peacock app. Back here

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Speaker 1: on The Dan Patrick Show, He's LaVar Arrington. I'm Jason McIntyre. Big,

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Speaker 1: big story developing in college athletics, LaVar, I love this.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to it next hour. Name, image and likeness.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw the news that just

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Speaker 1: came out one college in the ACC. Every football player

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Speaker 1: is going to be getting paid by a certain company.

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Speaker 1: It is awesome. I love to see it. I haven't

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Speaker 1: seen one hater on this topic yet, but we'll do

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Speaker 1: that at the top of next hour. But we have

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Speaker 1: to talk. LaVar. Listened as the NBA season comes to

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Speaker 1: a close. You know what that means and al everybody's

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Speaker 1: favorite sports topic in America football and Aaron Rodgers came

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Speaker 1: out this week had said something He's got his big

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Speaker 1: golf matchup today later today against Bryson dus sham Swoll

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Speaker 1: aka Bryson d Rambeau. I mean, he's got a million

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Speaker 1: nicknames because he's so jacked. But LaVar, I'm curious your thoughts.

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers came out and said that he is focusing

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Speaker 1: on his mental health and happiness soft season. Your thoughts,

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Speaker 1: I mean I think he should, That's why. I mean

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Speaker 1: my first my initial thought is and if you know me,

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Speaker 1: you know that mental health and mental mental rehab is

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Speaker 1: big for me. You know, I'm a mentor, I am

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Speaker 1: a coach, I am a parent, and so to me,

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Speaker 1: this has been a topic that I have been hitting

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Speaker 1: the drum for for a lot of time. You know

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Speaker 1: what I mean, j Mac Like, it's it's just one

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Speaker 1: of those things where you know, guys, it should become

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Speaker 1: easier to talk about taking care of yourself mentally, just

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Speaker 1: like it's easy to talk about taking care and rehabbing

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Speaker 1: yourself physically. Yeah, it's it's super important. I'll just say this, LaVar.

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Speaker 1: You know, I went to Hawaii recently and the first

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Speaker 1: the whole week, I was not on Twitter, but I

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Speaker 1: thought of it as digital therapy. When you go on vacation,

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Speaker 1: you sit at a pool or on the beach, you

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Speaker 1: ead a book and you don't pick up your phone,

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Speaker 1: or you try not to. Everybody needs that, LeVar. I'm

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Speaker 1: proud of Aaron Rodgers forgetting it, and I think you

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Speaker 1: you're doing a great job with all of it as well.

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Speaker 1: You know, the mentor ships, that's huge. Your kids need it,

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Speaker 1: mandeed shouldn't be a stigma, Definitely not. Kevin Loves talked

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Speaker 1: about it. Paul George Aaron Rodgers. I like it. Put

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Speaker 1: it out there, guys. All right, coming up next hour, name,

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Speaker 1: image and likeness. Guys, this is a huge topic. I

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Speaker 1: can't wait. We're diving into a next Leavar Arrington, Jmac

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Speaker 1: on The Dan Patrick Show. Be sure to catch the

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Speaker 1: live edition of The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine

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