WEBVTT - J Hay Day Preview + Mailbag Trade Targets 0:00:10.240 --> 0:00:11.080 What's up, everybody. 0:00:11.080 --> 0:00:14.680 Welcome back to another episode of Bucco Territory, presented to 0:00:14.760 --> 0:00:18.119 you bye the Foul Territory Network. I'm Noahile's joining me 0:00:18.160 --> 0:00:20.920 as always are my co host Platinum Key, Ak Mark 0:00:21.040 --> 0:00:25.160 and Josh Harrison, who will be the subject of discussion 0:00:25.239 --> 0:00:26.440 as we start this show. 0:00:27.040 --> 0:00:29.520 So to peel back the curtain a little bit. 0:00:29.640 --> 0:00:33.360 On Sunday after we recorded, Josh tells us Hey, I'm 0:00:33.400 --> 0:00:37.040 gonna be in Pittsburgh August seventh and eighth. They're doing 0:00:37.080 --> 0:00:42.120 something for me. It was very vague and I didn't 0:00:42.600 --> 0:00:45.600 I mean, maybe he thought he explained it. I didn't 0:00:45.640 --> 0:00:48.760 have that great of an idea. Mark probably knew a 0:00:48.760 --> 0:00:53.080 little bit more than me. And I'm sitting on my 0:00:53.200 --> 0:00:55.480 couch on Monday and I see a tweet and it 0:00:55.560 --> 0:00:59.440 says Josh Harrison. I get an email press release from 0:00:59.520 --> 0:01:03.360 the Pirate saying Josh Harrison to be honored by the Pirates. 0:01:03.400 --> 0:01:06.520 They're having him retire as a Pittsburgh Pirate. He's throwing 0:01:06.560 --> 0:01:09.360 out a first pitch. There's Josh Harrison. 0:01:09.080 --> 0:01:15.000 T shirt all all on the weekend of August seventh 0:01:15.000 --> 0:01:15.360 and eighth. 0:01:15.440 --> 0:01:18.240 I believe the first pitch is the seventh, right, Josh, 0:01:18.280 --> 0:01:19.759 And then the eighth is the T shirt. 0:01:20.120 --> 0:01:23.640 The first pitch is the eighth. Yeah, press conference, yep. 0:01:23.520 --> 0:01:24.880 Press conference is the seventh. 0:01:24.920 --> 0:01:26.640 First pitch is the eighth, and the T shirt is 0:01:26.640 --> 0:01:27.959 the eighth. There's the shirt there that. 0:01:27.880 --> 0:01:31.520 Mark just showed. Super super cool, Josh. I'll just give 0:01:31.560 --> 0:01:32.080 you a moment. 0:01:32.120 --> 0:01:33.720 I know you had some quotes in the story that 0:01:33.800 --> 0:01:35.200 ran on the Pirates website. 0:01:36.160 --> 0:01:37.880 Really really cool to see this for you. 0:01:37.920 --> 0:01:40.080 But I mean take take us through it, man, Like 0:01:40.120 --> 0:01:42.000 what was this process like and what does it mean 0:01:42.000 --> 0:01:43.520 to you? Oh? 0:01:43.560 --> 0:01:45.119 Man, it was cool. 0:01:45.400 --> 0:01:48.400 I just remember when I was there, you know in 0:01:48.480 --> 0:01:52.840 June where you know we did the little podcast together, 0:01:53.000 --> 0:01:55.360 you know, around the stadium. You know, I'm in and 0:01:55.360 --> 0:01:57.279 out and at one point I was underneath the tunnel 0:01:57.280 --> 0:01:58.960 and rant and the Bob nutting and we had a 0:01:58.960 --> 0:02:02.000 good conversation and you know, James tra Dinnis Jimmy T 0:02:02.240 --> 0:02:05.200 was right there and in that moment, you know, we 0:02:05.280 --> 0:02:06.560 had a good conversation and he. 0:02:06.600 --> 0:02:08.640 Was like, man, you know, we want to bring you 0:02:08.680 --> 0:02:09.359 back to honor you. 0:02:09.480 --> 0:02:11.639 And uh, you know you're here right now, obviously in 0:02:11.919 --> 0:02:14.200 a different space, you know, doing something different, but He's like, man, 0:02:14.240 --> 0:02:15.560 we want to bring you back to where the family 0:02:15.560 --> 0:02:17.960 can come back and just honor you and you know, 0:02:18.480 --> 0:02:19.440 retire you as a pirate. 0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:21.440 And I was like, oh wow, man. 0:02:21.280 --> 0:02:23.440 You know, I as I said in the you know, 0:02:23.480 --> 0:02:25.840 the article, it wasn't anything that I was like, oh, 0:02:25.840 --> 0:02:27.520 I want to retire a pirate, because you know, I 0:02:27.560 --> 0:02:29.679 wanted if something like that was to happen, I would 0:02:29.720 --> 0:02:31.920 want it to be you know, natural and organic. And 0:02:32.360 --> 0:02:34.960 it wasn't like a plan meeting underneath the tunnel with Bob. 0:02:35.000 --> 0:02:36.959 It was just I happened to be under the tunnel 0:02:37.000 --> 0:02:40.280 right before the game, and the conversation just happened, and uh, 0:02:40.440 --> 0:02:44.079 Mark was actually right there, but Mark wasn't like eavesdrop 0:02:44.080 --> 0:02:47.440 and he couldn't hear. And I think I kind of 0:02:47.440 --> 0:02:49.640 explained it a little bit, just kind of their idea 0:02:49.720 --> 0:02:51.280 because they were like, we're gonna we're gonna get some 0:02:51.360 --> 0:02:53.960 dates together and figure out, you know, which weekend might 0:02:54.000 --> 0:02:54.920 be the best. 0:02:55.120 --> 0:02:56.840 And uh that's when I kind. 0:02:56.680 --> 0:02:58.120 Of told Mark like, yeah, man, they want to bring 0:02:58.160 --> 0:02:59.959 me back and you know, like honor me as a pirate, 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:03.080 you know, the family and explaining that I thought I 0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:05.480 explained as well enough to where Sunday wouldn't have been 0:03:05.520 --> 0:03:08.880 a surprise. But you know, just like all women say, 0:03:08.880 --> 0:03:13.120 when it comes to relationships, even friendships, communication helps. But 0:03:14.160 --> 0:03:17.440 you know, definitely an honor man. As I said, you know, 0:03:17.480 --> 0:03:19.840 Pittsburgh was a second home for me and my family. 0:03:19.880 --> 0:03:23.080 They embraced me, embrace my family, and you show love 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:24.959 to my family. You got a special place in my heart. 0:03:26.480 --> 0:03:29.639 It's so awesome to see the fan reception Josh has 0:03:29.680 --> 0:03:33.240 been awesome. So many quotes like can we get this 0:03:33.280 --> 0:03:35.280 guy back on this team already? Like we need like 0:03:35.320 --> 0:03:38.560 five Josh Harrison's on this team right now. So many 0:03:38.560 --> 0:03:42.640 people just saying like this is my favorite player ever. Yeah, 0:03:42.680 --> 0:03:46.040 so it was just very special. And talk about feeling 0:03:46.600 --> 0:03:49.880 like you don't belong in a conversation, Josh, when you 0:03:49.920 --> 0:03:53.040 and Bob Nutting ran into each other in the back 0:03:53.040 --> 0:03:55.000 hallway and I'm following you around with a camera, I'm 0:03:55.040 --> 0:03:58.120 just like, I'm gonna drift away slowly because this is 0:03:58.160 --> 0:04:01.440 not a conversation I belong in. But that was pretty 0:04:01.520 --> 0:04:04.800 awesome to see. And yeah, I'm really looking forward to 0:04:05.080 --> 0:04:06.280 August seventh and eighth here. 0:04:07.600 --> 0:04:09.400 Yeah, and if I could just say a few things, 0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:12.240 I mean one, I grew up in the Josh Harrison era. 0:04:12.560 --> 0:04:15.760 That was my teen years, that was in high school. 0:04:15.800 --> 0:04:18.640 I wore number five when I played high school. Base 0:04:18.720 --> 0:04:21.279 wasn't because I wore five my whole life. But I've 0:04:21.960 --> 0:04:24.880 you know, like I related to the like a scrappy, 0:04:25.680 --> 0:04:27.239 way way worse baseball player. 0:04:27.279 --> 0:04:28.479 But I was five foot eight. 0:04:28.680 --> 0:04:32.239 I played wherever they and yeah, I tried to steal 0:04:32.279 --> 0:04:36.119 bases and hustle, and that was That was a guy 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:38.440 that this town resonated with. 0:04:38.920 --> 0:04:40.560 Was someone who wasn't in the. 0:04:40.480 --> 0:04:43.760 Top one hundred prospect magazines. He was an underdog and 0:04:43.800 --> 0:04:45.720 he did whatever he could to help the team win. 0:04:45.880 --> 0:04:49.240 And when he saw glimpses of him in eleven and 0:04:49.320 --> 0:04:52.800 twelve and thirteen, you just felt like, why didn't they 0:04:52.800 --> 0:04:54.560 play this guy more like he comes in and he 0:04:54.560 --> 0:04:56.880 helps out? And then twenty fourteen you got your shot 0:04:56.920 --> 0:05:00.640 and you became a part of that era of Pirates 0:05:00.640 --> 0:05:04.120 baseball who for many people like my age who grew 0:05:04.200 --> 0:05:05.520 up watching this team. 0:05:06.120 --> 0:05:08.520 Lose year after year after year. 0:05:08.560 --> 0:05:11.320 And obviously, I think I don't think I'm miss speaking 0:05:11.360 --> 0:05:13.840 when I think what I say, that era of Pirates 0:05:13.839 --> 0:05:16.719 baseball probably didn't go as well as the players hoped 0:05:16.720 --> 0:05:19.520 it would. You guys probably hope you achieved more, but 0:05:20.320 --> 0:05:24.080 it still meant so much to baseball fans in this area, 0:05:24.200 --> 0:05:26.520 to people who just loved the pirates, who love baseball, 0:05:26.800 --> 0:05:29.279 that we finally had a team that we could support 0:05:29.320 --> 0:05:32.159 and cheer for, and Josh, you were a massive part 0:05:32.200 --> 0:05:34.400 of that. And as the guys who were part of 0:05:34.400 --> 0:05:38.200 that first wave, the Neil Walkers, the Pedro, alvarezz the 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:41.520 Andrew mccutcheins, as they went away, you were still here. 0:05:41.720 --> 0:05:43.960 You were one of the last men standing, really, you 0:05:44.040 --> 0:05:44.599 and Jordie. 0:05:44.720 --> 0:05:47.160 And it was very cool. 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:50.479 For me selfishly to watch a guy who I grew 0:05:50.560 --> 0:05:53.240 up rooting for in high school was at his first 0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:55.760 walk off home run and then my first day in 0:05:55.800 --> 0:05:58.600 a big league clubhouse, he's standing there five feet away 0:05:58.600 --> 0:06:01.359 from me. And I think you were the third professional 0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:02.360 baseball player. 0:06:02.200 --> 0:06:02.960 I ever interviewed. 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:06.360 And I told you this, like when we started the show, 0:06:06.400 --> 0:06:08.080 you were like the first guy that like kind of 0:06:08.120 --> 0:06:11.679 made me feel comfortable there, and I knew I could 0:06:11.720 --> 0:06:14.240 depend on you for that, because when you're a young 0:06:14.320 --> 0:06:16.719 kid and you're finding your way around the clubhouse, you 0:06:16.760 --> 0:06:19.360 ask the older reporters, Hey, who are the jerks and 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:21.760 who are the cool guys? And they said, hey, number 0:06:21.800 --> 0:06:25.320 five will he will not bullshit you. He might not 0:06:25.440 --> 0:06:28.760 always say what he wants to say, but he will. 0:06:28.880 --> 0:06:30.560 He will be there at his locker to give you 0:06:30.560 --> 0:06:33.600 a quote. He will do you right. And the legacy 0:06:33.600 --> 0:06:35.560 that you left on and off the field here, I 0:06:35.600 --> 0:06:38.440 think deserves to be remembered, deserves to be honored. And 0:06:38.480 --> 0:06:40.840 it is so cool as someone who got to cheer 0:06:40.839 --> 0:06:43.159 for you when he was younger, got to cover you 0:06:43.200 --> 0:06:45.440 at your tail end in Pittsburgh, and now gets to 0:06:45.480 --> 0:06:48.920 work with you. I am super, super super happy for 0:06:49.000 --> 0:06:51.880 you and proud of you and just couldn't be more 0:06:51.920 --> 0:06:54.560 thrilled that this is happening for you. Josh, congratulations. 0:06:54.600 --> 0:06:58.400 Man appreciated man, As I said, it's exciting. 0:06:59.760 --> 0:07:01.359 And you know, my kids were a little younger, so 0:07:01.480 --> 0:07:03.640 now to be a little cooler now at the twelfth 0:07:03.640 --> 0:07:06.360 and eighth, they'll they'll get to see they'll they'll really 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:08.520 get to experience the love that the city has for 0:07:08.600 --> 0:07:11.360 not only me, but just like our family because you know, 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:13.640 obviously they see pictures of them as babies and. 0:07:13.560 --> 0:07:16.000 Stuff, and like, oh yeah, I kind of remember the stadium. 0:07:16.040 --> 0:07:19.360 But like, you know, it's just funny because even when 0:07:19.400 --> 0:07:21.360 I was, everybody's like, man, I see pictures of the 0:07:21.360 --> 0:07:23.320 girls because you know, my wife Brittany post them all 0:07:23.360 --> 0:07:25.920 the time. They're like, man, they're getting so big, and uh, 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:28.800 it'll be funny because when we get there, as you 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:31.720 talk about, undersize, no, my oldest will make us feel 0:07:31.760 --> 0:07:32.200 kind of short. 0:07:32.240 --> 0:07:33.520 She's almost as tall as us. 0:07:34.320 --> 0:07:38.080 That's awesome. That's awesome, man, Yeah, and it's that's that's 0:07:38.120 --> 0:07:41.200 just cool. That's cool that. I mean, you deserve to 0:07:41.200 --> 0:07:43.400 be a pirate, like you know, I know you were. 0:07:43.520 --> 0:07:46.680 You have a whole bunch of jerseys behind you. But 0:07:46.760 --> 0:07:49.800 Josh Harrison is a Pittsburgh pirate. That's that's how it is. 0:07:49.880 --> 0:07:52.200 That's I mean, he went into the Hall of pretty 0:07:52.240 --> 0:07:56.880 good as a friend's right as he as he you know, 0:07:57.000 --> 0:08:00.440 officially wraps it up that that that that's the book 0:08:00.560 --> 0:08:03.040 end of your chapter, of the chapter of your life. 0:08:03.080 --> 0:08:07.520 So congratulations again, Josh. We'll wrap it up there. We'll 0:08:07.520 --> 0:08:10.560 obviously talk more about it whenever it happens at PNC 0:08:10.680 --> 0:08:13.480 Park soon, so August seventh and eighth, make sure you're there. 0:08:13.480 --> 0:08:15.200 It's going to be a special day at the Ballyard. 0:08:15.800 --> 0:08:16.880 We're gonna take a quick break. 0:08:16.920 --> 0:08:19.280 When we come back, we get into our trade mail bag, 0:08:19.280 --> 0:08:22.720 which we do every Wednesday. 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He got hit 0:09:56.960 --> 0:10:00.240 in the wrist with a pitch, left the game, and 0:10:00.360 --> 0:10:04.240 if he is out for I mean literally anytime, even 0:10:04.280 --> 0:10:07.320 if you put him on like anything longer than a week, 0:10:08.440 --> 0:10:12.800 you really need to consider adding a right handed bat 0:10:13.240 --> 0:10:16.240 to this roster. It was something we talked about on 0:10:16.280 --> 0:10:19.160 the last show. Anyway, I believe it was just you know, 0:10:19.200 --> 0:10:21.040 where where do you put a guy? 0:10:21.240 --> 0:10:24.000 Right? Well, now you kind of have that. 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:27.280 Answer, and even if Valdez is only going to miss 0:10:27.320 --> 0:10:28.959 a couple of weeks you come back. 0:10:29.679 --> 0:10:31.960 There's still a spot for him. It's Azuna spot. 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:37.720 So I guess right now the clear spot is outfield. 0:10:37.920 --> 0:10:42.080 So we have two targets that we looked at, Mark, 0:10:42.120 --> 0:10:43.880 you can go ahead and start it off with the 0:10:43.880 --> 0:10:44.679 one that you picked. 0:10:45.000 --> 0:10:46.480 Yeah, So yeah. 0:10:46.520 --> 0:10:49.240 The first suggestion that we got from our listeners was 0:10:49.360 --> 0:10:53.360 Joe Adele, and he's had quite the interesting MLB career. 0:10:53.360 --> 0:10:56.280 He got off to a pretty slow start after being 0:10:56.520 --> 0:10:59.640 a highly ranked prospect, and then really started to figure 0:10:59.640 --> 0:11:02.320 things out out finally in twenty twenty five. Last year, 0:11:02.600 --> 0:11:06.000 he hit thirty seven home runs, had an ops of 0:11:06.040 --> 0:11:09.040 seven seventy eight, and looked like he was really starting 0:11:09.080 --> 0:11:13.640 to figure things out. However, in twenty twenty six, it's 0:11:14.160 --> 0:11:19.040 kind of been a slight regression back. So not exactly 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:21.760 the prettiest statcast page that we have pulled up here, 0:11:22.600 --> 0:11:26.120 but if you look into his splits, that's where he 0:11:26.200 --> 0:11:29.760 becomes intriguing for the pirates. Here he has a nine 0:11:29.800 --> 0:11:32.560 to fifty one OPS against left handed pitching this year. 0:11:33.080 --> 0:11:36.120 We were just talking last episode. We need that right 0:11:36.120 --> 0:11:40.920 handed back basically just for left handed pitching. So adding, yeah, 0:11:41.040 --> 0:11:43.360 Joe Delin might not look great when he's playing every 0:11:43.400 --> 0:11:45.640 day against right yes, right now, but if you use 0:11:45.679 --> 0:11:47.720 him the right way, he could be pretty effective for 0:11:47.760 --> 0:11:51.400 this team. He's currently making five point two million this year. 0:11:51.880 --> 0:11:54.600 He's about to enter his last year of arbitration next year, 0:11:56.200 --> 0:11:58.520 so it would be a U. You get one more 0:11:58.720 --> 0:12:01.640 year out of him, add some out field depth. It 0:12:01.720 --> 0:12:05.360 is kind of expensive for the Pirates' standards, I'd say, 0:12:05.480 --> 0:12:06.120 you don't think. 0:12:06.000 --> 0:12:11.240 So, no, I okay, yeah as much? Yeah, yeah, And 0:12:11.480 --> 0:12:13.520 obviously the Blue Jay's eights some of his deal. 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:15.760 But right right, yeah, and I guess you're only paying 0:12:15.760 --> 0:12:18.959 for the second half, right, so so yeah, I mean 0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:21.800 there's a lot to like about Joe Adell. I wouldn't 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:26.280 necessarily be going like paying crazy price. I think he's 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:30.320 he would be relatively affordable, and the Angels aren't in 0:12:30.400 --> 0:12:33.640 a place where they want to hang on to him, 0:12:33.960 --> 0:12:37.160 so it's an option. Uh, But I wouldn't be like 0:12:38.280 --> 0:12:41.960 running to make this trade this afternoon before we get 0:12:42.000 --> 0:12:46.720 an injury Updates on Valdez. But it's certainly an option 0:12:48.040 --> 0:12:49.560 or you thought, or yeah, go. 0:12:49.559 --> 0:12:52.000 Ahead, no, go ahead. 0:12:51.200 --> 0:12:54.800 Josh, I was gonna say, just kind of hitting on 0:12:55.160 --> 0:12:58.000 as you said, you don't want to rush to want 0:12:58.000 --> 0:13:00.480 to make a move. Let's wait to see what you know, 0:13:00.559 --> 0:13:02.960 what's going on without theirs, but you obviously want to have, 0:13:03.120 --> 0:13:08.480 you know, some ideas in mind. And Joe, as you said, 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:11.440 just showing his information. Left handed pitching is something that 0:13:11.440 --> 0:13:13.600 they need help with. And we know s Merlin was 0:13:14.400 --> 0:13:18.280 it is mashing, you know, lefties, so and. 0:13:18.280 --> 0:13:19.760 About one of the only people that is. 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:22.559 So if you are going to get somebody, you need 0:13:22.600 --> 0:13:24.679 somebody that has shown that they're going to hit left 0:13:24.679 --> 0:13:29.760 handed pitching. But at the same time, you still want 0:13:29.760 --> 0:13:32.160 to be weary about just jumping in and grab something 0:13:33.120 --> 0:13:36.040 because at the end of the day, he's. 0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:37.120 Got one year left arbitration. 0:13:37.200 --> 0:13:39.640 Who knows, I mean, angels aren't really in it. But 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:42.480 I mean at the same time, market for the outfield, 0:13:42.520 --> 0:13:45.120 who really know, I mean, we really don't know what. 0:13:45.080 --> 0:13:45.800 It is right now. 0:13:45.880 --> 0:13:49.000 Obviously we had Washington and Boston trade with early in 0:13:49.080 --> 0:13:51.400 counter need, but that was a need, you know, need 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:55.040 based trade. But I mean most trades are, but it's 0:13:55.080 --> 0:13:57.080 just a matter of how high they're going to go 0:13:57.840 --> 0:13:59.599 or or you know, they're really gonna hold on to 0:13:59.679 --> 0:14:02.400 them doing that. The outfield, you know, situation is kind 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:04.800 of you know, I don't want to say bizarre, but 0:14:04.880 --> 0:14:07.719 can be kind of slim. So I wouldn't want to 0:14:07.760 --> 0:14:09.960 rush to give up too much for somebody that you 0:14:10.080 --> 0:14:12.200 might only view as you know what. 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:14.480 I mean, somebody that's not really in your future plans. 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:19.640 But he would address the initial need if s Marlin 0:14:19.800 --> 0:14:22.800 was to miss you know, some substantial time, so keep 0:14:22.880 --> 0:14:26.680 them in your back pocket. But I wouldn't rush. There 0:14:26.680 --> 0:14:29.840 may be some better options that may make sense. I'm 0:14:29.880 --> 0:14:32.560 not really sure. I haven't really looked into it. But 0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:34.240 at the same time, he's a twenty seven year old 0:14:34.280 --> 0:14:36.560 that you know, you mentioned his first couple years of 0:14:36.560 --> 0:14:37.520 struggle with twenty seven. 0:14:37.560 --> 0:14:39.120 You know, when I was playing, was considered your prime. 0:14:39.160 --> 0:14:41.400 Maybe he's just starting to figure some things out, so 0:14:41.440 --> 0:14:41.920 you never know. 0:14:43.480 --> 0:14:45.960 See, that's where I will disagree. I just I don't 0:14:45.960 --> 0:14:48.800 think Joe Adell's that good. I think he is a 0:14:48.800 --> 0:14:52.800 good platoon player if you look, I mean, you know, 0:14:53.880 --> 0:14:56.720 if he was evaluated in nineteen seventy, he would have 0:14:56.760 --> 0:14:59.480 been very, very very well valued. 0:15:00.120 --> 0:15:02.200 But his defensive metrics. 0:15:02.240 --> 0:15:04.000 And it's funny because a lot of people when they 0:15:04.000 --> 0:15:05.480 hear Joe Adell, they think of that game he had 0:15:05.520 --> 0:15:09.280 this year where he wrapped Yeah. Yeah, he's a really 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:11.000 bad defender, Like if you look, oh. 0:15:10.920 --> 0:15:13.720 No, he's Yeah. He's had his struggles in the outfield 0:15:13.720 --> 0:15:14.000 for sure. 0:15:14.040 --> 0:15:19.880 Yeah yeah, And I would argue, I mean he's regressed, 0:15:20.000 --> 0:15:22.400 like he had thirty seven home runs last last year 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:24.960 he had an ops of like seven seventy or something 0:15:25.000 --> 0:15:25.360 like that. 0:15:27.040 --> 0:15:31.800 He's not going to do that much. I mean, Joe Joe. Yeah. 0:15:32.240 --> 0:15:34.720 Well that's my thing is Joe Adell might be better 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:38.920 on this team. He has more like and you can 0:15:38.960 --> 0:15:41.080 platoon him. I think Jo Adell is a really good 0:15:41.080 --> 0:15:43.880 platoon player. And it's just the kind of question, is 0:15:44.680 --> 0:15:46.560 that year, that additional year ConTroll? 0:15:46.640 --> 0:15:48.920 Do you need him next year? Like because this. 0:15:48.880 --> 0:15:50.960 Whole that's where I was, That's where I was going 0:15:51.000 --> 0:15:51.320 with it. 0:15:51.480 --> 0:15:55.160 Yeah, no, I agree, that's if he played another position, 0:15:55.640 --> 0:15:57.640 like if you could play first base or third base 0:15:57.680 --> 0:16:02.480 and outfield, maybe that extra year control because they're just 0:16:02.560 --> 0:16:05.360 like they already have platoon guys for the outfield as is, 0:16:05.440 --> 0:16:07.240 and they're all going to be back next year, every 0:16:07.280 --> 0:16:10.800 single one of them. So so I'll flip over to 0:16:10.840 --> 0:16:13.040 mine now, and it's Taylor Ward. And that's why I 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:15.280 think Taylor Ward's a little bit more attractive of an 0:16:15.320 --> 0:16:16.640 option one. 0:16:17.800 --> 0:16:20.320 He's just I mean, he's really good against. 0:16:20.080 --> 0:16:22.240 Lefties as well. He is an eight sixty four ohps 0:16:22.280 --> 0:16:23.360 against left handed pitching. 0:16:23.560 --> 0:16:25.680 He's a true rental. He's a present or I just. 0:16:25.680 --> 0:16:28.440 Said Fresno State because I see that on the page there. 0:16:28.560 --> 0:16:30.320 He's a free agent at the end of this year, 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:34.960 and he's a guy the Pirates have looked into before, 0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:36.960 like he was one of their trade targets in twenty 0:16:36.960 --> 0:16:39.600 twenty four. I don't know if they gave him a 0:16:39.640 --> 0:16:43.320 serious look this offseason. He got traded pretty early, uh 0:16:43.400 --> 0:16:44.960 in the offseason. It was one of like the first 0:16:45.000 --> 0:16:47.120 big moves made. But I mean, that's a better looking 0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:50.440 savant page. And Taylor Ward also has a little bit 0:16:50.440 --> 0:16:51.720 more positional flexibility. 0:16:51.760 --> 0:16:54.680 He has played third base in the past. 0:16:54.800 --> 0:16:56.720 And I mean, I don't know how great of a 0:16:56.760 --> 0:16:59.560 third baseman. Yeah, But at the same time, they've got 0:16:59.560 --> 0:17:05.640 a second right now, all right, So it's like if 0:17:05.640 --> 0:17:09.119 you're looking at if the Valdez thing isn't like season ending, 0:17:09.520 --> 0:17:12.159 I think Ward makes a lot more sense because he 0:17:12.320 --> 0:17:15.119 theoretically does come with the second place you can play. 0:17:15.359 --> 0:17:18.320 You can play both corner outfield positions. I'm where Adell 0:17:18.480 --> 0:17:22.560 is just right field and you're not stuck with him. 0:17:22.600 --> 0:17:26.200 And I mean his salary this year is like twelve million, 0:17:26.359 --> 0:17:28.160 but I mean it's not going to be that much 0:17:28.200 --> 0:17:29.800 because it's at the end of the year. 0:17:30.119 --> 0:17:30.520 I don't know. 0:17:30.680 --> 0:17:32.639 I like Ward a lot more. What about you guys? 0:17:33.920 --> 0:17:34.520 Go ahead, Josh. 0:17:35.680 --> 0:17:39.080 I'm just said he's more attractive to me on on 0:17:39.200 --> 0:17:43.800 paper just giving his body a work, you know, just 0:17:44.000 --> 0:17:46.520 from LA to Baltimore. He's a guy that you know 0:17:46.640 --> 0:17:48.560 is gonna have good at bats. He's a patient hitter. 0:17:48.800 --> 0:17:52.680 I think he would make this line up better. And obviously, 0:17:52.720 --> 0:17:55.919 if you're you're missing Valdez, you want somebody that is 0:17:56.000 --> 0:17:58.200 going to be established. 0:17:59.520 --> 0:18:02.400 You know, not that s Merlin is established, but you. 0:18:02.320 --> 0:18:04.760 Know he's on a run to where like you want 0:18:04.760 --> 0:18:07.640 to replace with replace him with somebody if he's hurt 0:18:07.960 --> 0:18:10.720 that you know has a body of work that you 0:18:10.760 --> 0:18:13.080 can you know, kind of trust and get behind. And 0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:15.720 it's one of the reasons why between the two that 0:18:15.800 --> 0:18:17.720 we're talking about, you know, Joe has been kind of 0:18:18.240 --> 0:18:21.119 you know here and not that Taylor Ward's numbers are like, oh, 0:18:21.119 --> 0:18:23.000 he's the greatest player. But you know what you're getting 0:18:23.000 --> 0:18:25.080 with him a guy as a patient hitter. He can 0:18:25.160 --> 0:18:27.400 drive the ball out the park when he's a he's 0:18:27.440 --> 0:18:32.680 a good ball player, and it's one of those things 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:34.200 where you know, he's a free agent athe in the season. 0:18:34.640 --> 0:18:37.560 The twelve million is pretty much halfway through, So I 0:18:37.560 --> 0:18:41.439 don't think it's anything, as you mentioned, too much of 0:18:41.440 --> 0:18:43.760 an obstacle. I just think the obstacle that you run 0:18:43.800 --> 0:18:45.639 into is what I mentioned with Joe Odell is the 0:18:45.680 --> 0:18:50.480