WEBVTT - Going Bowling: Part 3

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the solid verbal Come that for me. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a man, I'm forty.

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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<v Speaker 2>be happy.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to be happy for Dake Edo State?

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<v Speaker 3>Is that? Whoo whoom?

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<v Speaker 1>And Dan and Ty.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome back to the solid verbel boys and girls. My

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<v Speaker 3>name is Ty hilden Brand jointing me way over there,

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<v Speaker 3>back where he started from. His name is Dan Rubinstein

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<v Speaker 3>out there in beautiful southern California.

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<v Speaker 1>Dan, how are you you know? Ty?

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<v Speaker 2>Life is good out west. I'll say it again, I've

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<v Speaker 2>said it before. It's about sixty degrees. Had a great

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<v Speaker 2>Italian meal last night. Been weirdly staying on East Coast time. Okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>now hold on pause.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, how how do you do that?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>I be going to sleep around nine pm, be waking

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<v Speaker 2>up about six am, but you go to sleep at

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<v Speaker 2>nine pm normally, right, So basically I'm just sleeping a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit more than okay, right, no complaints, Yeah saying

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<v Speaker 2>I'm right now in my childhood bedroom at my folks

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<v Speaker 2>place out in the valley in LA.

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<v Speaker 3>What is the weather situation in southern California right now?

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<v Speaker 1>Not bad?

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<v Speaker 2>Tie, It's not like tropical but I was out in

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<v Speaker 2>Palm Springs for camera guy Dave's wedding and that was

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<v Speaker 2>that was very nice.

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<v Speaker 1>I was about seventy five degrees. It's about sixty degrees tie,

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<v Speaker 1>no rain, going to San Francisco for a couple days,

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<v Speaker 1>just going on a tour. That's toasty, baby, it is.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm going to Chicago next week, so it's about

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<v Speaker 2>to take a turn, about to take a seventeen degrees

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<v Speaker 2>turned for the worst.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome back in with Dan and I. We run a

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<v Speaker 3>little podcast you might have heard of. We talk college football.

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<v Speaker 3>It is the Solid Verbal. Our schedule from this point forward.

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<v Speaker 3>At a minimum, we've got a show next Wednesday where

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<v Speaker 3>we'll talk about our final wave of bowl games, including

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<v Speaker 3>the playoffs, the big playoffs, and at a minimum, we'll

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<v Speaker 3>be doing at least past the Friday before the National Championship,

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<v Speaker 3>a preview show. We'll talk about all sorts of recaps

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<v Speaker 3>and whatnot. So your best bet to figure out what

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to be dropping shows is to stay tuned

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<v Speaker 3>to our Twitter feed, our Facebook page, our Instagram account,

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<v Speaker 3>our website Solid verbal dot com. We do have a

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<v Speaker 3>bit of a modified schedule here over the holidays, but

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<v Speaker 3>at a minimum, Daniel, we promise to deliver content to

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<v Speaker 3>people who might be on the road for Christmas, who

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<v Speaker 3>might be on the road for New Year's perhaps you're

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<v Speaker 3>on the road to a New Year's Day Bowl game

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<v Speaker 3>or a playoff game. The verbal will be with you

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<v Speaker 3>live in living color.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think we're going to try to do the

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<v Speaker 2>same thing we did last year, as for like attacking

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<v Speaker 2>the National Championship game, whichever two teams are in it

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<v Speaker 2>from a few different angles with a few different people.

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<v Speaker 2>We will record some of it before we actually get

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<v Speaker 2>out to Atlanta, and a couple more and when we

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<v Speaker 2>get out to Atlanta, So hopefully we can have that

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<v Speaker 2>show up later on in the day Friday, so you

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<v Speaker 2>can listen to it all weekend before the game.

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<v Speaker 1>Really get it up a good one window before, a

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<v Speaker 1>good window before.

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<v Speaker 3>We will have more details forthcoming on the live show

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<v Speaker 3>the additional lot of tickets for January six. We're also

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<v Speaker 3>working on something a little special in the lab that

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<v Speaker 3>we can't reveal quite yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Ooh, that would be probably earlier on in the weekend ish.

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<v Speaker 3>That would be correct. Yeah, got something cool. Not ready

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<v Speaker 3>to unleash the beast yet, but that is as we

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<v Speaker 3>say in the industry, a tease, Daniel.

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<v Speaker 2>I cannot wait for you to unleash your beast Tye.

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<v Speaker 2>I cannot, nor can I, Dan. Let's get right into it.

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<v Speaker 1>We have Bret news. Daniel.

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<v Speaker 3>Just because you went out to the West Coast does

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<v Speaker 3>not mean you can escape the hotbed of news that

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<v Speaker 3>we have brewing here in the college football world. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>as some of you might have noticed from reading the interwebs,

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<v Speaker 3>college football has a new early sign period. It sort

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<v Speaker 3>of changes the schedule as we know it, at least

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<v Speaker 3>on the recruiting side of things. That new early signing

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<v Speaker 3>period is between today, which is December twentieth, when we're recording,

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<v Speaker 3>and on Friday, December twenty second. Between now and then,

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<v Speaker 3>guys are going to be signing all over the place.

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<v Speaker 3>If you want more details on the whares and the

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<v Speaker 3>whys and the hows of the new schedule, I would

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<v Speaker 3>advise it was very instructive for me to read Bud

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<v Speaker 3>Elliott's piece out on esp Nation. He's been writing about it,

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<v Speaker 3>he's been guessing about how things might change from this

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<v Speaker 3>point forward, given some of the formatting adjustments that they've

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<v Speaker 3>made in college football. But if you really want to

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<v Speaker 3>deep dive and get more info on the new signing period.

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<v Speaker 3>Dan bud Elliott's a good resource for you.

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<v Speaker 1>My main takeaway.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that the new signing period is basically the new

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<v Speaker 3>signing day.

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<v Speaker 2>Right Yeah, Nineteen of the top twenty five, at least

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<v Speaker 2>for the blue chip guy right now, nineteen of the

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<v Speaker 2>top twenty five on twenty four to seven's composite rankings

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<v Speaker 2>have signed or I think are expected to sign maybe

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen twenty twenty one. We're recording this evening time East

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<v Speaker 2>Coast time on Wednesday, so who knows what will happen

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<v Speaker 2>in the next few hours today, in the next couple

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<v Speaker 2>of days. We apologize this show once again is not live,

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<v Speaker 2>so there it seems like an overwhelming majority at least

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<v Speaker 2>of the top kids will sign, though there's I think

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<v Speaker 2>a good chunk of them that will wait until February

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<v Speaker 2>to take more visits, which certainly is an advantage for

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<v Speaker 2>kids that are deciding between a number of schools, have

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of options, and honestly, a lot of these

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<v Speaker 2>guys are just finishing up their high school playoff time

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<v Speaker 2>and haven't had time these past few weeks. As it's

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<v Speaker 2>the clock has sort of ticked down to this early

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<v Speaker 2>national signing day to take their last visit or too.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think there are some guys that are waiting

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<v Speaker 2>to do that. There's some you know people be it

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<v Speaker 2>for Stanford or Notre Dame or UCLA or took Northwestern

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<v Speaker 2>that have to wait on. Some academics that I have

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<v Speaker 2>not fully come in the final or I guess the

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<v Speaker 2>second to last semester in high school. And it affects

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a number of kids just coaching changes that

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<v Speaker 2>are happening. So you have coaches scrambling a lot quicker

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<v Speaker 2>than they used to before an early February signing day.

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<v Speaker 2>You have teams in early bowl games. I know just

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<v Speaker 2>from somebody that is you know, as I am following Oregon,

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<v Speaker 2>this was where this past weekend was supposed to be

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<v Speaker 2>a huge recruiting weekend and could not be so anymore

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<v Speaker 2>because of the Las Vegas Ball the Bowl. So there's

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<v Speaker 2>a number of pieces that are being shuffled across the

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<v Speaker 2>deck because of this early signing period. And I also

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<v Speaker 2>get tie why you know, some people prefer this, I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think coaches fully prefer it, but maybe kids

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<v Speaker 2>who have been committed for a long time. They just

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<v Speaker 2>want to get the process over, move on with either

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of their high school career as a as

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<v Speaker 2>a student, just as a kid for the last few months,

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<v Speaker 2>or getting ready to enroll as an early enroll lead

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<v Speaker 2>in their college of choice.

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<v Speaker 1>So it definitely is a different dynamic.

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<v Speaker 3>What's interesting to me is now we've got this new

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<v Speaker 3>early signing period. I think they're going to try and

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<v Speaker 3>fashion this as the more elaborate of the two. The

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<v Speaker 3>one in February does not go away. It's still there,

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<v Speaker 3>but it does seem as if there's more of a

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<v Speaker 3>push to ink guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>What's interesting to me is that we don't fully know

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<v Speaker 3>the effects of this new schedule quite yet. Nobody really

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<v Speaker 3>knows how it's going to shake out. It might take

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<v Speaker 3>a few recruiting cycles to figure out what this is

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<v Speaker 3>going to be, how this needs to be modified to

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<v Speaker 3>be more effective in the future. One early read though,

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<v Speaker 3>and Bud Elliott, God bless him, he's been predicting this

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<v Speaker 3>since I think the summertime. He said a while back

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<v Speaker 3>he thought small schools might see a benefit from this, because,

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<v Speaker 3>as you know, there are a lot of these fringe

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<v Speaker 3>guys who traditionally have waited around to see if they

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<v Speaker 3>get offered from bigger programs. In this setup, it almost

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<v Speaker 3>forces them to make a decision earlier in the process,

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<v Speaker 3>and in a lot of cases that'll be to a

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<v Speaker 3>place like ECU or Kansas over waiting around to go

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<v Speaker 3>to Texas, waiting around to see if he gets something

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<v Speaker 3>from Florida, so on and so forth. So again, a

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<v Speaker 3>lot remains to be seen about how this whole thing

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<v Speaker 3>shakes out. It is interesting though, that we're kind of

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<v Speaker 3>flying blind through at least cycle number one of this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it affects guys who perhaps have had injuries

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<v Speaker 2>later on in their career. Sure, yeah, your tape isn't

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<v Speaker 2>fully out. I know Florida allegedly asked, I think ECU.

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<v Speaker 2>That would be ECU, not TCU. East Carolina's their quarterback.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I believe signee or at least commit to sort

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<v Speaker 2>of hold off. Whereas if you're a three star kid,

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<v Speaker 2>even a promising three star kid who might be fringe,

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<v Speaker 2>power five, group of five, whatever the case may be,

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<v Speaker 2>when you're not as in demand, you want to grab

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<v Speaker 2>that spot. So I know, I was talking to our

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<v Speaker 2>pal Yogi Roth about this. Carter Bradley who is the

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<v Speaker 2>son of former I think Jacksonville Jaguar head coach Gus Bradley,

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<v Speaker 2>Bradley promising young quarterback, I think a high three star

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<v Speaker 2>kid instead of waiting on perhaps to see if a

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<v Speaker 2>bigger program misses on a quarterback of choice, and they

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<v Speaker 2>have some big programs who have missed this past few

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<v Speaker 2>weeks for quarterbacks scrambling late. He signed with Toledo because

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<v Speaker 2>that is a guaranteed spot. I guess he feels the

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<v Speaker 2>most wanted there. I can't speak to his exact feelings,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, certainly Toledo promising program with Logan Woodside

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<v Speaker 2>succeeding Jason kandall just getting an extension. So guys are

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<v Speaker 2>just they're grabbing those spots and they don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>be backup plans because sometimes backup plans don't work out.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, those spots don't open up like schools are

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<v Speaker 2>thinking that they might. So yeah, I think you're totally

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<v Speaker 2>right that those three star kids who ordinarily might get

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<v Speaker 2>that last second Ohio State or UCLA off or something

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<v Speaker 2>like that, they're not waiting. They're grabbing their spot and

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<v Speaker 2>they're moving on with their lives.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, a bird in hand right versus two in the bush.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's what we're going to see, at least

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<v Speaker 3>again as it relates to some of these fringe guys

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<v Speaker 3>who could wait around and get an offer from a

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<v Speaker 3>bigger school. The other thing that seems obvious is that

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<v Speaker 3>there's a downside for you and I and you alluded

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<v Speaker 3>to this. But we are once a week podcast, and

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<v Speaker 3>given the fact that this is a rolling three day thing,

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to do our best to cover a thirty

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<v Speaker 3>thousand foot view. For now, We're going to give you

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<v Speaker 3>major storylines and team rankings and key names and things

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<v Speaker 3>like that. We will come back in February we'll talk

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<v Speaker 3>to you about how things all ended up. Keep in

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<v Speaker 3>mind that we are still trying to figure this whole

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<v Speaker 3>thing out as well. So with that being said, Daniel,

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<v Speaker 3>after at least one day of this new signing period,

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<v Speaker 3>give me a sense for how the team rankings are looking.

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<v Speaker 3>Any surprises are What are the early takeaways from how

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<v Speaker 3>teams are doing now?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think there's all that much in the way

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<v Speaker 2>of surprises. Ohio State has been putting together a behemoth

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<v Speaker 2>of a class. Clemson has. When I say finished, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean they have sort of approached the end of the

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<v Speaker 2>cycle in a very strong fashion. I think they've ended

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<v Speaker 2>up with four of the top nine recruits in the country.

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<v Speaker 2>Trevor Lawrence, who a lot of people have been very

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<v Speaker 2>intrigued by for a number of years now, A big

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<v Speaker 2>quarterback from I want to say, Georgia, great hair, sixty

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<v Speaker 2>six two fifteen and unbelievable head of hair.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm never allowed to cut that here. Xavier Thomas.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, a defensive end as is kJ Henry, a

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<v Speaker 2>defensive end from the Clemson class.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Jackson Carmen.

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<v Speaker 2>Who was the sort of early story of the day

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<v Speaker 2>for you know, seemingly exciting reasons, but honestly not all

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<v Speaker 2>that exciting because it was he told a story about

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<v Speaker 2>urban Meyer allegedly being on the down side the back

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<v Speaker 2>half of his career. According to Dabos Swinney during his recruitment,

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<v Speaker 2>Jackson Carmen being the number one recruit in the state

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<v Speaker 2>of Ohio, a giant offensive lineman. I don't know that

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<v Speaker 2>Davos Swiney was incorrect. I don't know that there's anything

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<v Speaker 2>so controversial about a coach pointing something out that may

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<v Speaker 2>be true, and there's some solid evidence that you could

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<v Speaker 2>point to. I suppose just the fact that Ohio, a

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<v Speaker 2>huge high school football state, lost the number one recruit

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<v Speaker 2>to a school in the South.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's pretty significant.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, big one, big one. That was one of the

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<v Speaker 3>true surprises of the day. What's the top ten.

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<v Speaker 2>So we have Ohio State, Georgia, Texas, and Georgia has

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<v Speaker 2>finished extraordinarily, so I want to talk about it next

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<v Speaker 2>the end. Yeah, a lot of linemen, five star linemen

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<v Speaker 2>just coming to Georgia in droves. Texas may have I

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<v Speaker 2>know our pal Budd said this maybe the best defensive

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<v Speaker 2>back class anybody's had ever. They got a commitment from

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<v Speaker 2>a five star kid named Anthony Cook, so they're in

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<v Speaker 2>the top. They'll probably finish top two, three, four somewhere

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<v Speaker 2>in there. Penn State has finished very strong. Micah Parsons,

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<v Speaker 2>who you remember. Recently Ohio State had to stop recruiting

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<v Speaker 2>as part of a self imposed disciplinary thing for improper

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<v Speaker 2>contact with Kirkirk Street on the game day sets.

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<v Speaker 1>An incredible story.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, Alabama in a shakra is finishing strong

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<v Speaker 2>and should continue to climb. Miami's had a very strong

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<v Speaker 2>class this whole time. Notre Dame a very strong class Oklahoma.

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<v Speaker 2>Impressive given it it's Lincoln Riley's I don't even know

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<v Speaker 2>if it's his first full class because he took over

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<v Speaker 2>in June, you want to say June. So certainly a

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<v Speaker 2>pretty cool accomplishment from Lincoln Riley. Auburn, Clemson, Washington, who

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<v Speaker 2>I believe brings in two blue chip quarterbacks, so always

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<v Speaker 2>interesting there, including one of whom was an Oregon commitment

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<v Speaker 2>to Mark Helfrich. Michigan is finishing pretty well. Oregon has

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<v Speaker 2>fallen from that top six or seven perch, but they're

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<v Speaker 2>still in the top fifteen. Florida got a huge commitment

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<v Speaker 2>from an Ohio state quarterback, Emery James. Emery Jones, Yeah

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<v Speaker 2>to Dan Mullen, so you know you have to look admire.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess the thinking of Emery Jones like, Wow, Urban

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<v Speaker 2>Meyer's gonna run me a lot. I better go to

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<v Speaker 2>Dan Mullen, Who's going to run me a lot in

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<v Speaker 2>warmer weather. Let me let's go back to Georgia. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>get to Emory Jones here. But okay, Georgia I thought

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<v Speaker 2>was a pretty big story. One of the hot names

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<v Speaker 2>in this recruiting class was Justin Fields. Justin Fields is

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<v Speaker 2>a quarterback. Originally it sounded like he was going to

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<v Speaker 2>Penn State. He decommitted from Penn State. He ends up

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<v Speaker 2>signing with Georgia. Also at Georgia, we've got one of

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<v Speaker 2>the top running backs, Zamir White.

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<v Speaker 3>We've also got Dalvin Cook's little brother, James Cook. We've

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<v Speaker 3>got Jamari Sallier on the line, Cade Mays on the line,

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<v Speaker 3>probably the best offensive line class in the entire country,

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<v Speaker 3>and at least according to twenty four to seven's composite,

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<v Speaker 3>six five star recruits on the board for Georgia just

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<v Speaker 3>in day one, what is day one of this new

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<v Speaker 3>early signing period. That is a haul and a half

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<v Speaker 3>for Kirby Smart, who clearly now after making the playoff,

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<v Speaker 3>after having a good recruiting class a year ago, seems like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>this is what it's going to be year in and

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<v Speaker 3>year out. Maybe not quite as high as we're seeing

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<v Speaker 3>this year, but if you're a Georgia fan, you've got

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of reason to be really excited.

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<v Speaker 1>What I don't get.

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<v Speaker 3>Though, not to take all the air out of the

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<v Speaker 3>room here, but if you're justin fields and you see

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<v Speaker 3>that Jake from he is a freshman starting could potentially

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<v Speaker 3>lead the Dogs to a national championship.

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<v Speaker 1>What is the allure of going to Georgia.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, he's from Georgia, so there is the idea of

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<v Speaker 2>staying somewhere close. I mean, what is the allure of

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<v Speaker 2>any five star coming in a year after another blue

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<v Speaker 2>ship quarterback? We've seen it at other places, to a

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<v Speaker 2>tag of below has gotten on the field at Alabama

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<v Speaker 2>after you know, Jalen Hurts succeeded to a pretty crazy

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<v Speaker 2>extent as a true freshman. The honestly, what did why

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<v Speaker 2>did Jake from go when Jacob Eeson was there? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>transfers happen, injuries happened, you know, life happens. And if

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<v Speaker 2>Justin Fields truly felt and I say, this is somebody

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<v Speaker 2>who has never spoken to him, has no insider.

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<v Speaker 1>Knowledge of the inner workings of his brain.

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<v Speaker 2>But if he feels that he felt most at home

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<v Speaker 2>at Georgia, like the coaches at Georgia the most, and

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<v Speaker 2>feels like he has an honest to goodness shot to

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<v Speaker 2>compete at some point, probably doesn't expect to come in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty eighteen and win the job. But if he expects

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<v Speaker 2>to come in and prove himself, and I again no

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<v Speaker 2>inside knowledge of anybody's brain. But Jacob Eeson, who knows

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<v Speaker 2>how long he is for Athens after seeing perhaps some

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<v Speaker 2>writing on the wall with Jake From's success as a

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<v Speaker 2>true freshman. Life happens and you just got to follow

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<v Speaker 2>your heart. You remember Georgia did this a few years

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<v Speaker 2>ago now with Zach Mettenberger and Aaron Murray, and that

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<v Speaker 2>ultimately worked out for everybody. Aaron Murray had a record

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<v Speaker 2>setting career for the Dogs, and Zach Mettenberger went on

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<v Speaker 2>to have a pretty good transfer.

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<v Speaker 1>He played for the Titans.

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<v Speaker 2>He played for the Titans. It you know, Aaron Murray's

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<v Speaker 2>brother got on The Bachelor. I watched It's all happening. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so at a certain point, I mean Washington signed too.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Texas signed a couple of well regarded quarterbacks.

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<v Speaker 2>Michigan has a couple of pretty good quarterbacks in this

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<v Speaker 2>class and Guinea numbers and all of these guys are

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<v Speaker 2>ultra competitive and believe that they can come in and

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<v Speaker 2>just powerwash the depth chart.

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<v Speaker 1>So who am I?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's always the brightest decision. I think

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<v Speaker 2>Justin Fields had an opportunity at Florida State and given

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<v Speaker 2>the coaching change. Maybe he was turned off.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe he was more of a Jimbo guy. I get it,

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<v Speaker 2>I get why you want to go where you want

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<v Speaker 2>to go. I don't know if he really saw an

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<v Speaker 2>opportunity that he really loved elsewhere. So either way, it

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<v Speaker 2>feels like it'll be entertaining. What a ridiculous class for Georgia.

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<v Speaker 3>It feels like it'll be entertaining and to your point, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>an incredible haul. Let's stay in the SEC and briefly

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<v Speaker 3>talk about Florida flipping Emery Jones from Ohio State. Emory

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<v Speaker 3>Jones a dual threat quarterback. It's a big deal for

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<v Speaker 3>two reasons. A, you may have watched Florida play quarterback

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<v Speaker 3>this season, and B Emory Jones sort of fits in

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<v Speaker 3>perfectly with the system that Dan Mullen wants to run

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<v Speaker 3>it Florida definitely. I mean they also signed for safeties,

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of tight ends, some linemen. Maybe not quite

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<v Speaker 3>as much sex appeal else where where, although it was

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<v Speaker 3>a very strong class in its own right. But Emory

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<v Speaker 3>Jones getting him from Ohio State, I think gives Dan

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<v Speaker 3>Mullen someone he's going to start from day one.

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<v Speaker 1>To run that system.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know where it leaves a guy like a

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<v Speaker 3>Felipe Franks who played a lot this year.

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<v Speaker 1>He was only a true freshman.

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<v Speaker 3>But Emory Jones to me seems like he fits more

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<v Speaker 3>with what Dan Mullen wants to do in Gainesville.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I don't think this class is complete. They're

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<v Speaker 2>what a top fifteen class right now. In the Emory

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<v Speaker 2>Jones thing is huge, and they have a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>let's see, when you look at their commitments, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>pretty good defensive class. It's pretty balanced. I know Damian

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<v Speaker 2>Pierce is a well regarded running back, but there's still

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<v Speaker 2>time to add more more players because Dan Mullen and

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<v Speaker 2>his new staff they're still forging very new and quick

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<v Speaker 2>relationships with high school coaches and recruits that perhaps they

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<v Speaker 2>weren't in on at Mississippi State or wherever any of

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<v Speaker 2>these assistants were last year.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's sort of it seems fluid.

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<v Speaker 2>But he signed a good chunk of these guys and

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<v Speaker 2>there's a healthy percentage of blue chips. Looks like maybe

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<v Speaker 2>perhaps scoot a little bit more on defense, depending on

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<v Speaker 2>where a couple of athletes end up. But yeah, all

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<v Speaker 2>in all, it seems like a successful first stab at

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<v Speaker 2>things for Dan Mullen and the Florida staff.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's talk about penn State. Penn State's a program obviously

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<v Speaker 3>near and dear to my heart. They get a top

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<v Speaker 3>pass rusher in Micah Parsons, who is from Pennsylvania. It

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<v Speaker 3>sounds like James Franklin's going to give him some time

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<v Speaker 3>at middle linebacker in the spring. We'll see how that

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<v Speaker 3>pans out for him, but he's a very talented player.

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<v Speaker 3>They also add in a big bodied five star wide

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<v Speaker 3>out from New Jersey, Justin Shorter. He's going to major

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<v Speaker 3>in engineering Dan Cookie, so he'll be a nice addition

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<v Speaker 3>to get Ricky Slayd from Virginia, a five star all

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<v Speaker 3>purpose back. And they also flip Jahad Dotson, a four

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<v Speaker 3>star wide out from right up the road for me

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<v Speaker 3>here in Nazareth, Pennsylvania. He flipped over from UCLA. The

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<v Speaker 3>most interesting nugget I saw all day regarding Penn State

0:20:02.359 --> 0:20:04.840
<v Speaker 3>came from our friend Bruce Feldman, who said that in

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<v Speaker 3>the previous four years before coach Franklin, Penn State had

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<v Speaker 3>seventeen combined four and five stars signees in the four

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<v Speaker 3>years with Franklin. Penn State now has signed forty five

0:20:20.160 --> 0:20:23.200
<v Speaker 3>four and five star recruits. Say what you want about Franklin,

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<v Speaker 3>but Franklin's been really good at going out getting new

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<v Speaker 3>coordinators when he knew he need to change his system,

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<v Speaker 3>and also building this program somewhat from the ground.

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<v Speaker 1>Up in his image.

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<v Speaker 3>On the recruiting trail, he's been a dogged recruiter and

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<v Speaker 3>he's done a hell of a job. The numbers speak

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<v Speaker 3>for themselves. Forty five Dan.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, that it is incredible, and the best teams went

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<v Speaker 2>with the best players. That is sort of a reality

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<v Speaker 2>of things. And on the same token, you understand why

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<v Speaker 2>Penn State may have been radioactive.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Brian in the end of Joe Pass.

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<v Speaker 2>So certainly, I don't think that's a commentary on what

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<v Speaker 2>Penn State can do to attract And things look as

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<v Speaker 2>good as they can in state college. And I know

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<v Speaker 2>they had a quarterback come in last year, right, not

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<v Speaker 2>in this class, a more of a pro style guy.

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<v Speaker 2>It looks like his name is Sean Clifford, if I'm

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<v Speaker 2>pronouncing that correctly. So, No, it's good times.

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<v Speaker 3>Some other tidbits that I found interesting for the first

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<v Speaker 3>time since twenty thirteen you mentioned Texas and what they're

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<v Speaker 3>doing in the defensive backfield. They signed the top recruit

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<v Speaker 3>in the state of Texas.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a safety.

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<v Speaker 3>But the fact that they're doing it to the first

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<v Speaker 3>time since twenty thirteen is I don't know, what's a

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<v Speaker 3>testament to something. It's a feel good story if you're

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<v Speaker 3>a Texas fan. It's a gentleman by the name of

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<v Speaker 3>bj Foster. He gives them. You know, I guess a

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<v Speaker 3>frontman in their class of right now, what is like

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<v Speaker 3>four safeties, four defensive backs. It's a top five class

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<v Speaker 3>at worst. And I think if you compare that year

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<v Speaker 3>over year. Last year, Texas in a bit of a

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<v Speaker 3>state of flux after they got rid of Charlie Strong

0:22:02.760 --> 0:22:05.520
<v Speaker 3>and hired Tom Herman. Now Tom Herman has a full

0:22:05.560 --> 0:22:09.000
<v Speaker 3>recruiting cycle, and it seems like, again a really good

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<v Speaker 3>class for Texas.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, looks like an excellent class for Texas. And you're right.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know there have been sort of stories trickling out,

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<v Speaker 2>at least rumors that you know, perhaps Tom Herman's rubbing

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<v Speaker 2>high school coaches and recruits in Texas the wrong way.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you look at his class and worked outracting

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<v Speaker 2>enough talents all right, Notre.

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<v Speaker 3>Dame shamelessly, I need to talk about Notre Dame a

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<v Speaker 3>defensive focus, Okay, I think so far, Houston, Griffith, Derek

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<v Speaker 3>Allen in the defensive backfield, Jack Lamb, Shane Smith, Matthew Bauer,

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<v Speaker 3>some other talent along the linebacking Corps, defensive line, offensive line,

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<v Speaker 3>got two big wide out. The big name to watch

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<v Speaker 3>is going to be Phil Jerkovic. He is the dual

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<v Speaker 3>threat guy that we mentioned on the last show. He's

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<v Speaker 3>from Western PA. A big kid, a little bit of

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<v Speaker 3>a wonky delivery, kind of reminds me of Henry from

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<v Speaker 3>rook of the Year, okay, a little bit, but talented guy,

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<v Speaker 3>a good runner, a good passer.

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<v Speaker 1>He's enrolling early.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think you'll see him jump up from number

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<v Speaker 3>four on the depth chart to any serious contention with

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<v Speaker 3>Brandon Wimbush.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's an.

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<v Speaker 3>Exciting prospect and a name that I would expect you'd

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<v Speaker 3>hear a lot about before long. Certainly, if it's not

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<v Speaker 3>in twenty eighteen, then he starts getting mentions for Time

0:23:28.560 --> 0:23:32.320
<v Speaker 3>twenty nineteen. After Wimbush could be an interesting bet for you.

0:23:32.440 --> 0:23:35.520
<v Speaker 2>So we have Avery Davis, Ian Book Ian book number

0:23:35.560 --> 0:23:39.360
<v Speaker 2>docop yep right and Wimbush, you know entrenched. We assume

0:23:39.520 --> 0:23:42.159
<v Speaker 2>as a starter and listen the drive for fifty one

0:23:42.240 --> 0:23:42.800
<v Speaker 2>percent tie.

0:23:42.960 --> 0:23:47.080
<v Speaker 3>It starts today, It starts today. It starts today. Oh okay,

0:23:47.119 --> 0:23:49.240
<v Speaker 3>what else is going on? What other nuggets?

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<v Speaker 2>I would assume Alabama's going to keep building. They got

0:23:51.520 --> 0:23:55.919
<v Speaker 2>a big speed rusher from Baltimore to sort of ink today.

0:23:55.960 --> 0:23:57.960
<v Speaker 2>His name is I am going to screw this up,

0:23:58.040 --> 0:24:02.280
<v Speaker 2>but I think it's Aabbi A no, yeah, sure, from Baltimore,

0:24:02.320 --> 0:24:05.840
<v Speaker 2>a highly coveted defensive end. It looks like a lot

0:24:05.880 --> 0:24:08.720
<v Speaker 2>of defense, especially along the defensive line. Cameron Lattu. I

0:24:08.760 --> 0:24:11.280
<v Speaker 2>know a defensive end from out West in Utahs who's

0:24:11.280 --> 0:24:14.639
<v Speaker 2>pretty well regarded. Tommy Brown, an offensive lineman from out West.

0:24:14.720 --> 0:24:16.399
<v Speaker 2>I know a lot of teams in the Pac twelve

0:24:16.960 --> 0:24:19.959
<v Speaker 2>wanted him. So it looks like a very solid class.

0:24:20.040 --> 0:24:23.440
<v Speaker 2>And honestly, if his class only finishes like number four,

0:24:23.560 --> 0:24:27.800
<v Speaker 2>number five, that's still given the attrition on the coaching

0:24:27.840 --> 0:24:31.919
<v Speaker 2>staff for Alabama these past couple of years, Ray Cristobal losing,

0:24:32.000 --> 0:24:35.560
<v Speaker 2>Jeremy Pruett, Lane Kiffen, and Steve Starkesian like this is

0:24:36.640 --> 0:24:38.919
<v Speaker 2>the fact that they're able to overhaul and the power

0:24:38.960 --> 0:24:41.080
<v Speaker 2>of Alabama and the power of Nick Saban. It shouldn't

0:24:41.119 --> 0:24:44.600
<v Speaker 2>come as a surprise to anybody, but still it's easier

0:24:44.640 --> 0:24:47.040
<v Speaker 2>said than done, and they are consistently doing it.

0:24:47.200 --> 0:24:50.760
<v Speaker 3>They're consistently among the top in the country. I don't

0:24:50.840 --> 0:24:53.640
<v Speaker 3>expect that would change anytime soon. But you did talk

0:24:53.680 --> 0:24:57.080
<v Speaker 3>about coaching attrition, and it was a very active coaching

0:24:57.160 --> 0:25:00.720
<v Speaker 3>carousel this season. Do we have any sen for the

0:25:00.760 --> 0:25:03.960
<v Speaker 3>newer coaches out there now? They fared at least on

0:25:04.040 --> 0:25:05.600
<v Speaker 3>day one of this new signing period.

0:25:06.000 --> 0:25:08.560
<v Speaker 2>Well, we mentioned Dan Mullen and how things seem pretty

0:25:08.560 --> 0:25:11.600
<v Speaker 2>solid in Gainesville Willie Taggart. I would imagine it's sort

0:25:11.640 --> 0:25:13.800
<v Speaker 2>of resting in the weeds right now. Their class is

0:25:13.880 --> 0:25:16.439
<v Speaker 2>very low, but I know they're working on those former

0:25:16.760 --> 0:25:19.320
<v Speaker 2>Oregon commitments from the state of Florida, and it looks

0:25:19.359 --> 0:25:21.280
<v Speaker 2>like at least a couple of them we'll be making

0:25:21.280 --> 0:25:24.000
<v Speaker 2>the switch to Florida state. And I know as of

0:25:24.119 --> 0:25:26.840
<v Speaker 2>the time we're recording this thing, there's a talented safety

0:25:26.840 --> 0:25:28.359
<v Speaker 2>from southern California.

0:25:27.880 --> 0:25:29.240
<v Speaker 1>Who they feel good about. We'll see.

0:25:29.280 --> 0:25:31.359
<v Speaker 2>I think his last name is wood Bay. Jalen would

0:25:31.359 --> 0:25:34.639
<v Speaker 2>Bay maybe and he's also looking at USC and Ohio State.

0:25:34.840 --> 0:25:38.840
<v Speaker 2>So what I would imagine is Willy Taggart is right

0:25:38.880 --> 0:25:42.320
<v Speaker 2>fully so counting on getting a number of visits and

0:25:42.400 --> 0:25:46.520
<v Speaker 2>a lot of time to sway some undecided kids in January,

0:25:46.560 --> 0:25:48.800
<v Speaker 2>maybe a couple more during this signing period. So I

0:25:48.800 --> 0:25:52.040
<v Speaker 2>would imagine it's sort of a distance race right now

0:25:52.119 --> 0:25:55.040
<v Speaker 2>for Florida State. Chip Kelly has managed to hold on

0:25:55.119 --> 0:25:57.280
<v Speaker 2>to at least a couple of big guys at UCLA.

0:25:57.400 --> 0:25:59.879
<v Speaker 2>He got a big receiver from State of Oregon to

0:26:00.240 --> 0:26:03.119
<v Speaker 2>down a couple couple days ago, Chase Coda, who's an

0:26:03.119 --> 0:26:08.119
<v Speaker 2>Oregon legacy, and they flipped a big USC linebacker, Bo

0:26:08.280 --> 0:26:13.280
<v Speaker 2>Calvert linebacker commitment jimbo Fisher at techs A and M.

0:26:13.400 --> 0:26:15.879
<v Speaker 2>It's been sort of an offensive line and receiver focus

0:26:16.000 --> 0:26:18.320
<v Speaker 2>right now. And obviously he's still putting together staff, they're

0:26:18.359 --> 0:26:21.679
<v Speaker 2>still working on bowl preparation whatever, So I imagine he

0:26:21.720 --> 0:26:24.800
<v Speaker 2>will be making an attempt to at least flip or

0:26:24.840 --> 0:26:26.280
<v Speaker 2>get in the ears of a number of kids in

0:26:26.320 --> 0:26:29.960
<v Speaker 2>Texas in January. Mario Christobal a couple of late defensive

0:26:29.960 --> 0:26:33.920
<v Speaker 2>line signings today that were not surprises, I don't think,

0:26:33.960 --> 0:26:37.000
<v Speaker 2>but they committed and signed today. But he was the

0:26:37.040 --> 0:26:39.400
<v Speaker 2>big thing for Crista Ball and his staff aside from

0:26:39.520 --> 0:26:42.600
<v Speaker 2>keeping this staff basically together other than the assistance that

0:26:42.640 --> 0:26:45.639
<v Speaker 2>Willie Tagger brought over from USF, is that he held

0:26:45.640 --> 0:26:48.800
<v Speaker 2>on to a couple of really big fish, including Tyler Shuck,

0:26:48.840 --> 0:26:50.919
<v Speaker 2>who is considered to be and that's how you pronounce

0:26:50.960 --> 0:26:54.320
<v Speaker 2>a ty sho u g h shuck, like what you

0:26:54.359 --> 0:26:58.320
<v Speaker 2>would do to an oyster. Sure, so he's from Arizona

0:26:58.320 --> 0:27:00.320
<v Speaker 2>and the top player there. So a top quarterback decide

0:27:00.320 --> 0:27:02.400
<v Speaker 2>to stay with Oregon. That was a huge need after

0:27:02.400 --> 0:27:05.239
<v Speaker 2>we saw what Oregon did with their backup quarterbacks this

0:27:05.320 --> 0:27:09.600
<v Speaker 2>past year. Chad Morris signed perhaps the best name in

0:27:09.640 --> 0:27:12.919
<v Speaker 2>the twenty eighteen class and it's the best player in

0:27:12.960 --> 0:27:17.280
<v Speaker 2>this class. Bumper cool, Bumper Bumper. The thumper had inside

0:27:17.280 --> 0:27:20.080
<v Speaker 2>linebacker and he has a quarterback in this class, which

0:27:20.080 --> 0:27:21.960
<v Speaker 2>always helps to sort of get a kid from day one.

0:27:22.080 --> 0:27:25.160
<v Speaker 2>Jeremy Pruitt couple blue chip defensive lineman up front. Big

0:27:25.280 --> 0:27:28.080
<v Speaker 2>dudes has a California quarterback coming in not necessarily a

0:27:28.119 --> 0:27:29.919
<v Speaker 2>blue chip, but he has managed.

0:27:29.640 --> 0:27:30.520
<v Speaker 1>To hold on to him. JT.

0:27:30.600 --> 0:27:34.400
<v Speaker 2>Shrout Scott Frost had a late speaking of Tennessee. Blue

0:27:34.440 --> 0:27:37.919
<v Speaker 2>chip quarterback Adrian Martinez, who I actually think is from California,

0:27:37.960 --> 0:27:39.640
<v Speaker 2>had committed to Tennessee and maybe.

0:27:39.480 --> 0:27:41.720
<v Speaker 1>Cal before that. He's coming to Nebraska.

0:27:41.760 --> 0:27:43.879
<v Speaker 2>So Scott Frost gets his blue chip quarterback in a

0:27:43.920 --> 0:27:47.360
<v Speaker 2>solid defensive class and obviously has the assistance coming over

0:27:47.359 --> 0:27:49.879
<v Speaker 2>from UCF. So there is not a lot to learn

0:27:49.960 --> 0:27:51.880
<v Speaker 2>and sort of about working together and recruiting with them.

0:27:51.920 --> 0:27:56.760
<v Speaker 1>Herm Edwards has oh no, don't talk about her not much.

0:27:57.080 --> 0:28:01.000
<v Speaker 3>What is going on at AS So the last time

0:28:01.960 --> 0:28:06.280
<v Speaker 3>I think we talked about Herm Edwards and the ASU debacle,

0:28:07.480 --> 0:28:11.360
<v Speaker 3>ASU sort of bought in to what seems to be

0:28:12.200 --> 0:28:14.200
<v Speaker 3>like a multi level marketing scheme.

0:28:14.359 --> 0:28:17.200
<v Speaker 1>Basically that they had cracked the code.

0:28:17.200 --> 0:28:21.919
<v Speaker 3>They hacked the matrix on a new athletics model, and

0:28:22.000 --> 0:28:25.199
<v Speaker 3>it seemed as if the bedrock of that model was

0:28:25.240 --> 0:28:28.320
<v Speaker 3>bringing in Herm to manage from a higher level, to

0:28:28.480 --> 0:28:33.080
<v Speaker 3>retain the coordinators that were with Todd Graham in twenty

0:28:33.119 --> 0:28:38.040
<v Speaker 3>seventeen and to sort of plot a forward. Well, when

0:28:38.040 --> 0:28:40.680
<v Speaker 3>we last left our heroes, that was the case. Now

0:28:41.240 --> 0:28:44.400
<v Speaker 3>both coordinators are essentially gone and it's looking more and

0:28:44.440 --> 0:28:46.480
<v Speaker 3>more like a bit of a tire fire out there

0:28:46.520 --> 0:28:47.640
<v Speaker 3>in Tempe.

0:28:47.400 --> 0:28:50.240
<v Speaker 2>Indeed, and Todd Graham is still coaching Bowl game the

0:28:50.280 --> 0:28:53.640
<v Speaker 2>last time I checked, So all sorts of weirdness. No,

0:28:53.760 --> 0:28:56.360
<v Speaker 2>it's not a particularly great class. Maybe they finished strong.

0:28:56.400 --> 0:28:58.920
<v Speaker 2>Maybe they identify some diamonds in the rough once they

0:28:58.960 --> 0:29:01.440
<v Speaker 2>get their coordinator situation in order.

0:29:01.480 --> 0:29:02.960
<v Speaker 1>But it was strange herm.

0:29:02.880 --> 0:29:07.840
<v Speaker 2>Edwards spending the final contact week I guess, of the

0:29:08.080 --> 0:29:12.240
<v Speaker 2>recruiting period before signing day, working at ESPN, not making

0:29:12.280 --> 0:29:15.520
<v Speaker 2>in home visits. It was very strange that as soon

0:29:15.520 --> 0:29:17.880
<v Speaker 2>as you're hired, especially with this new early signing day,

0:29:18.200 --> 0:29:20.280
<v Speaker 2>you should be living on a plane. You should be

0:29:20.360 --> 0:29:22.960
<v Speaker 2>living in airports and in living rooms and on rental

0:29:23.040 --> 0:29:26.120
<v Speaker 2>car back seats whatever. And her Edwards was just, you know,

0:29:26.360 --> 0:29:27.959
<v Speaker 2>talk about the NFL on ESPN.

0:29:28.120 --> 0:29:30.920
<v Speaker 3>They out hipstered themselves or something with this decision.

0:29:32.000 --> 0:29:32.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:29:32.400 --> 0:29:35.720
<v Speaker 2>I mean everybody's talking about how we ASU is remodeling

0:29:35.760 --> 0:29:38.200
<v Speaker 2>and restructuring to be like an NFL team. They just

0:29:38.240 --> 0:29:41.680
<v Speaker 2>didn't tell everybody it was to be the Brown Brown. Wow,

0:29:42.200 --> 0:29:47.120
<v Speaker 2>they're Cleveland South on a more positive please something. I

0:29:47.160 --> 0:29:49.680
<v Speaker 2>say that just because we admire him from Afar, New

0:29:49.760 --> 0:29:52.120
<v Speaker 2>York's one true team Fordham and of course your alma mater,

0:29:52.200 --> 0:29:55.680
<v Speaker 2>pen States very own. Joe Morehead a very good he's

0:29:55.960 --> 0:29:58.480
<v Speaker 2>He's been able to hold onto a very good wide receipts,

0:29:58.480 --> 0:30:01.600
<v Speaker 2>including the number one Juco receiver in the country, Stephen Gidrey,

0:30:01.640 --> 0:30:03.800
<v Speaker 2>who at one point was going to go to LSU.

0:30:04.080 --> 0:30:07.200
<v Speaker 2>Jalen Maiden, a dual threat quarterback, is going to Mississippi State.

0:30:07.240 --> 0:30:09.680
<v Speaker 2>He of course is the younger brother of I want

0:30:09.680 --> 0:30:11.680
<v Speaker 2>to say, a former alb or not form, but a

0:30:11.680 --> 0:30:17.080
<v Speaker 2>current Alabama corner Jared Maiden. So an intriguing class to

0:30:17.120 --> 0:30:19.480
<v Speaker 2>start things out. We'll see hoping for the best for

0:30:19.560 --> 0:30:21.120
<v Speaker 2>competitive team for Joe Morehead.

0:30:21.280 --> 0:30:22.000
<v Speaker 1>What is it it's.

0:30:22.000 --> 0:30:24.920
<v Speaker 2>More cow bell that we're talking more more cow bell,

0:30:25.120 --> 0:30:26.840
<v Speaker 2>more cow bell. Yeah, that's right, that's what we're.

0:30:26.760 --> 0:30:30.960
<v Speaker 1>Going otherwise around the country. Just in general. Well, any

0:30:30.960 --> 0:30:33.840
<v Speaker 1>thoughts about any of those guys classes.

0:30:34.640 --> 0:30:38.160
<v Speaker 3>It's good to see Joemo holding it together at Mississippi State.

0:30:38.240 --> 0:30:41.200
<v Speaker 3>He's going to be an interesting guy to follow because

0:30:41.200 --> 0:30:43.080
<v Speaker 3>he is so smart with the x's and o's. I

0:30:43.120 --> 0:30:46.160
<v Speaker 3>think he'll give some teams, at least one team, one

0:30:46.280 --> 0:30:50.440
<v Speaker 3>higher level team in the SEC West some trouble come September.

0:30:50.600 --> 0:30:53.920
<v Speaker 2>Yes, Maryland got and this is not a recruit, but

0:30:54.240 --> 0:30:58.360
<v Speaker 2>Byron Cowart, the former number one overall Believe player in

0:30:58.400 --> 0:31:01.560
<v Speaker 2>the twenty I want to say fifteen class who followed

0:31:01.560 --> 0:31:04.080
<v Speaker 2>Will muss Champ from Florida to Auburn for his one

0:31:04.160 --> 0:31:07.000
<v Speaker 2>year as a defensive coordinator is now transferring to Maryland's.

0:31:07.320 --> 0:31:09.920
<v Speaker 2>So I think he's from Florida, went to Auburn, now

0:31:09.960 --> 0:31:12.280
<v Speaker 2>it's transferring to Maryland. And Maryland, by the way, the

0:31:12.360 --> 0:31:15.440
<v Speaker 2>Terps for all their top twenty bitten yet.

0:31:15.320 --> 0:31:17.520
<v Speaker 3>They have a top twenty class right now, could get higher.

0:31:17.680 --> 0:31:20.000
<v Speaker 3>So I saw that I saw in Maryland's. I saw

0:31:20.120 --> 0:31:23.080
<v Speaker 3>Virginia Tech as having a really good class. I saw

0:31:23.120 --> 0:31:27.800
<v Speaker 3>that Minnesota is kind of on the cusp of having

0:31:27.800 --> 0:31:30.560
<v Speaker 3>its first ever top twenty five class now under PJ.

0:31:30.720 --> 0:31:31.040
<v Speaker 1>Fleck.

0:31:31.160 --> 0:31:35.280
<v Speaker 3>So some interesting names and teams to follow as we

0:31:36.040 --> 0:31:38.960
<v Speaker 3>again plot ahead here. It is the early signing period.

0:31:39.000 --> 0:31:42.200
<v Speaker 3>Now there is more recruiting. There will be more announcements,

0:31:43.000 --> 0:31:46.680
<v Speaker 3>certainly when we roll around to February in twenty eighteen,

0:31:46.760 --> 0:31:51.720
<v Speaker 3>but for now, I think that's a pretty good breakdown

0:31:51.720 --> 0:31:53.240
<v Speaker 3>of what's going on around college football.

0:31:53.960 --> 0:31:56.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean USC is sort of lurking on the

0:31:56.120 --> 0:31:58.160
<v Speaker 2>outside there around thirty, but I imagine they're going to

0:31:58.240 --> 0:32:00.400
<v Speaker 2>have a pretty big jump as they closed more and more,

0:32:00.440 --> 0:32:02.680
<v Speaker 2>and certainly they're going to get them later on in

0:32:02.880 --> 0:32:05.640
<v Speaker 2>today and tomorrow, in the following day and in February.

0:32:05.680 --> 0:32:09.840
<v Speaker 2>So I anticipate them say they will close strong. Excuse me,

0:32:10.080 --> 0:32:13.600
<v Speaker 2>and just quickly a note about we said the term

0:32:13.720 --> 0:32:16.000
<v Speaker 2>blue chip and top kid and all these things a lot,

0:32:16.080 --> 0:32:17.720
<v Speaker 2>and I know a lot of people are quick to

0:32:17.720 --> 0:32:20.880
<v Speaker 2>say things like the star rankings don't matter. Look at

0:32:20.960 --> 0:32:23.520
<v Speaker 2>this team and this specific player who is a two

0:32:23.640 --> 0:32:27.000
<v Speaker 2>star and a three star like that. That's fine. There

0:32:27.000 --> 0:32:30.440
<v Speaker 2>are exceptions. But because we've gotten better and better about

0:32:30.480 --> 0:32:32.920
<v Speaker 2>seeing more film and you know, there are more more

0:32:32.960 --> 0:32:35.280
<v Speaker 2>eyes on film because of YouTube and Huddle and all

0:32:35.320 --> 0:32:37.960
<v Speaker 2>these things, that the star rankings have never actually been

0:32:38.680 --> 0:32:41.080
<v Speaker 2>more I would say, more accurate and definitely more thorough.

0:32:41.320 --> 0:32:44.240
<v Speaker 2>And you know our pal button. There's a business around it. Now,

0:32:44.840 --> 0:32:47.320
<v Speaker 2>sure you know there is a business, and we're follow

0:32:47.360 --> 0:32:51.480
<v Speaker 2>the money, right, follow the money. There's more being poured

0:32:51.520 --> 0:32:55.000
<v Speaker 2>into evaluating these kids, and I think as a whole,

0:32:55.440 --> 0:32:58.040
<v Speaker 2>and we've talked to Brandon Hoffman, we talked to Bud Elliott.

0:32:58.320 --> 0:33:03.000
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna put out probably in February, are much awaited

0:33:03.080 --> 0:33:06.400
<v Speaker 2>show on how recruiting works, And in that show we

0:33:06.480 --> 0:33:11.520
<v Speaker 2>talk pretty extensively about why recruiting rankings have gotten much

0:33:11.560 --> 0:33:13.760
<v Speaker 2>more accurate over the last fifteen.

0:33:13.440 --> 0:33:14.160
<v Speaker 1>To twenty years.

0:33:14.320 --> 0:33:16.800
<v Speaker 3>And yeah, a lot of it is because of the

0:33:16.880 --> 0:33:20.120
<v Speaker 3>resource and there's just so much there's such an infrastructure

0:33:20.160 --> 0:33:24.360
<v Speaker 3>around rating these kids that it doesn't matter per se,

0:33:24.920 --> 0:33:28.920
<v Speaker 3>but it's definitely a pretty accurate indication of how someone's

0:33:28.960 --> 0:33:30.520
<v Speaker 3>going to translate to the next level.

0:33:31.040 --> 0:33:33.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's there's more camps, there's seven on seven, there's

0:33:33.880 --> 0:33:36.000
<v Speaker 2>the big you know, the Nike opening out in Portland,

0:33:36.000 --> 0:33:39.240
<v Speaker 2>where you get to see a top offensive lineman from say,

0:33:39.280 --> 0:33:42.320
<v Speaker 2>Tennessee against the top defensive lineman from Utah. Those are

0:33:42.360 --> 0:33:45.040
<v Speaker 2>things because of level of competition at a certain place,

0:33:45.080 --> 0:33:48.200
<v Speaker 2>you wouldn't necessarily always get to see and quickly tie

0:33:48.240 --> 0:33:51.240
<v Speaker 2>blue chips. So four and five star kids are almost

0:33:51.240 --> 0:33:53.560
<v Speaker 2>one thousand percent more likely to be drafted in the

0:33:53.600 --> 0:33:55.480
<v Speaker 2>first round than non blue chips.

0:33:56.480 --> 0:33:59.360
<v Speaker 1>So that's why starts. It's definitely that is more likely.

0:34:00.040 --> 0:34:02.320
<v Speaker 2>Five stars are about thirty three times as likely to

0:34:02.360 --> 0:34:05.400
<v Speaker 2>be all Americans as two stars are, and there are

0:34:05.400 --> 0:34:07.840
<v Speaker 2>a lot of two stars, and yet the five stars

0:34:08.880 --> 0:34:11.480
<v Speaker 2>just get those spots, they grab those spots. So and

0:34:11.800 --> 0:34:14.400
<v Speaker 2>national championship wise, and these are teams, you know, the

0:34:14.440 --> 0:34:17.680
<v Speaker 2>teams that we've spent the most time on Ohio State, Georgia, Alabama,

0:34:18.480 --> 0:34:20.000
<v Speaker 2>Notre Dame. These are teams that have been in the

0:34:20.040 --> 0:34:23.960
<v Speaker 2>national championship recently, have won national championships recently. And every

0:34:24.280 --> 0:34:28.040
<v Speaker 2>national champion in the ratings era so since, like Rivals

0:34:28.040 --> 0:34:30.239
<v Speaker 2>and Scout in ESPN and twenty four to seven blah

0:34:30.280 --> 0:34:34.120
<v Speaker 2>blah blah, have put out rankings on everybody. Every national

0:34:34.200 --> 0:34:37.720
<v Speaker 2>champion has had at least fifty percent of their team

0:34:38.120 --> 0:34:41.239
<v Speaker 2>be a blue chip recruit or above. I guess so

0:34:41.280 --> 0:34:45.920
<v Speaker 2>a four or five star. So it's it's the data

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<v Speaker 2>is pretty clear at this point. I think I think

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<v Speaker 2>the data is very clear. Let's leave it at that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, for recruiting again, this is going to be a

0:34:56.800 --> 0:34:59.759
<v Speaker 3>bit of a fluid situation. It's really only day one

0:35:00.440 --> 0:35:04.480
<v Speaker 3>again of this new early signing period. Much intrigue about

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<v Speaker 3>where it leaves the state of recruiting in college football.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll do our best to cover it along the way here,

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<v Speaker 3>perhaps talk about it next week before we get into

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<v Speaker 3>some of our Bigger Bowl previews. But for now, that

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<v Speaker 3>seems to be the lay of the land. Dan, Before

0:35:21.560 --> 0:35:24.960
<v Speaker 3>we go any further, yes, before we talk about Bowl games,

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<v Speaker 3>Before we talk about Lane Kiffen and his colossal fifty

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<v Speaker 3>talk about. I want to talk about some of the

0:38:10.480 --> 0:38:14.520
<v Speaker 3>Bowl games that have already taken place. We won't waste

0:38:14.560 --> 0:38:17.640
<v Speaker 3>too much time talking about this, Dan, but as you know, we've.

0:38:17.440 --> 0:38:19.640
<v Speaker 1>Got a bullpool going on.

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<v Speaker 3>We've had what seven games already that have been played.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got one that's going on.

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<v Speaker 3>I think as we speak and record our podcast this evening,

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<v Speaker 3>let me run through those very quickly, because we've.

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<v Speaker 2>Got we want to take like an hour to discuss

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<v Speaker 2>the chamellable, right. Sure, of course, we really want to

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<v Speaker 2>stretch out our national our natural body geometries.

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<v Speaker 3>Here is what transpired so far in bowl season. We

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<v Speaker 3>had North Carolina A and T twenty one to fourteen

0:38:47.120 --> 0:38:50.920
<v Speaker 3>over Grambling Boise thirty eight to twenty eight over Oregon.

0:38:50.960 --> 0:38:54.040
<v Speaker 3>We'll talk about the seven turnovers in a minute. Sure,

0:38:54.280 --> 0:38:58.440
<v Speaker 3>Troy wins by twenty fifty to thirty over North Texas.

0:38:58.640 --> 0:39:02.400
<v Speaker 3>Georgia State gets their first bowlwin over Western Kentucky by

0:39:02.440 --> 0:39:06.440
<v Speaker 3>a twenty seven to seventeen final. Marshall wins thirty one

0:39:06.480 --> 0:39:09.200
<v Speaker 3>to twenty eight in a close one over Colorado State,

0:39:09.640 --> 0:39:13.360
<v Speaker 3>Middle Tennessee by five over Arkansas State and the Red Wolves.

0:39:13.920 --> 0:39:17.440
<v Speaker 3>And as I mentioned a few moments ago, Florida Atlantic

0:39:17.480 --> 0:39:24.400
<v Speaker 3>and Lane Kiffen fifty to three over the akron Zips. Okay,

0:39:25.239 --> 0:39:28.680
<v Speaker 3>before we talk about Lane's ten year contract, you want.

0:39:28.560 --> 0:39:30.759
<v Speaker 1>To talk about Cherubundy Tart Cherry's I.

0:39:30.719 --> 0:39:33.239
<v Speaker 3>Want to talk about seven turnovers in the Las Vegas Bowl.

0:39:33.800 --> 0:39:34.560
<v Speaker 1>Sure, Okay.

0:39:34.600 --> 0:39:37.319
<v Speaker 2>So I can't speak in great detail this to this game,

0:39:37.360 --> 0:39:39.800
<v Speaker 2>because that was when Cameron Guy Dave was getting ready,

0:39:40.160 --> 0:39:42.200
<v Speaker 2>and so I was in the room with him and

0:39:42.239 --> 0:39:45.239
<v Speaker 2>his friends, and then the wedding happened, and so I

0:39:45.360 --> 0:39:46.080
<v Speaker 2>was back and forth.

0:39:46.120 --> 0:39:48.120
<v Speaker 1>So this was watched on a TV.

0:39:48.000 --> 0:39:49.719
<v Speaker 2>Part of the time, on my phone part of the time,

0:39:49.800 --> 0:39:51.640
<v Speaker 2>not at all. Part of the time I can tell

0:39:51.640 --> 0:39:54.800
<v Speaker 2>you this, Oregon did not look particularly good. Not sound

0:39:54.880 --> 0:39:57.600
<v Speaker 2>like you missed a whole lot, Dan, No, I missed

0:39:57.719 --> 0:40:00.880
<v Speaker 2>Brett Rippen completing a lot of passes and a couple picks.

0:40:01.440 --> 0:40:04.359
<v Speaker 2>Oregon did a pretty good job against the run. Justin

0:40:04.400 --> 0:40:07.880
<v Speaker 2>Herbert looked just flat, just did not look I mean,

0:40:08.080 --> 0:40:10.120
<v Speaker 2>this was a lot of the Oregon offense. Royce Freeman

0:40:10.239 --> 0:40:12.960
<v Speaker 2>was there but didn't play, which was a little bit strange.

0:40:13.400 --> 0:40:17.680
<v Speaker 2>And Oregon just they couldn't run it at all. They

0:40:17.760 --> 0:40:19.640
<v Speaker 2>kept going three and out. I'm not going to ask

0:40:19.680 --> 0:40:21.440
<v Speaker 2>you to play the music because it hurts me so

0:40:21.560 --> 0:40:24.480
<v Speaker 2>much about, you know, the drive performances of Oregon. But

0:40:24.520 --> 0:40:30.160
<v Speaker 2>if you look at the chart, I'm seeing punt punt, fumble, fumble, punt, interception, reception, fumble, punt,

0:40:30.200 --> 0:40:34.040
<v Speaker 2>punt punt to start out their first nine or ten drives.

0:40:34.080 --> 0:40:37.560
<v Speaker 2>So it maybe it was a literal hangover for Oregon.

0:40:37.640 --> 0:40:40.040
<v Speaker 2>Maybe it was getting used tomorrow Christobal, But the fact

0:40:40.080 --> 0:40:43.839
<v Speaker 2>of the matter remains from Justin Herbert on down, this

0:40:44.000 --> 0:40:45.600
<v Speaker 2>was was a pretty ugly performance.

0:40:45.680 --> 0:40:45.839
<v Speaker 3>Though.

0:40:45.840 --> 0:40:48.759
<v Speaker 2>I will say, Ty, you say Oregon lost by ten,

0:40:49.320 --> 0:40:52.640
<v Speaker 2>but I see Oregon's offense and Oregon's defense all knotted

0:40:52.719 --> 0:40:57.799
<v Speaker 2>up at fourteen because Oregon's offense only scored fourteen two

0:40:57.880 --> 0:41:00.719
<v Speaker 2>quick defensive touchdowns before halftime or else this game would

0:41:00.719 --> 0:41:04.000
<v Speaker 2>have been superbly ugly for the Ducks. So great win

0:41:04.040 --> 0:41:06.920
<v Speaker 2>from Boise State. Brett Reppin was really good. The defense

0:41:06.920 --> 0:41:09.640
<v Speaker 2>they kept showing Boise's middle linebacker it seemed like a

0:41:09.640 --> 0:41:12.879
<v Speaker 2>thousand times and you know rightfully so he was very good.

0:41:13.360 --> 0:41:15.359
<v Speaker 2>But good win for Boise to finish out the year

0:41:15.360 --> 0:41:17.160
<v Speaker 2>winning their conference and beating a major team.

0:41:18.239 --> 0:41:22.640
<v Speaker 3>And on the Florida Atlantic front, I mentioned Lane Kiffin

0:41:22.719 --> 0:41:25.640
<v Speaker 3>now has a ten year contract with FA. We don't

0:41:25.680 --> 0:41:28.560
<v Speaker 3>know what his buyout is yet, but what it amounts

0:41:28.600 --> 0:41:31.279
<v Speaker 3>to is basically, FA you will take him as coach

0:41:31.280 --> 0:41:33.200
<v Speaker 3>for as long as he wants to stay in Boca,

0:41:33.280 --> 0:41:34.040
<v Speaker 3>and that's fine.

0:41:33.920 --> 0:41:37.840
<v Speaker 1>Under bucks yeah, undred bucks. I mean, look, this was

0:41:37.880 --> 0:41:40.560
<v Speaker 1>a pretty good year for Florida Atlantic. Yeh.

0:41:40.560 --> 0:41:44.680
<v Speaker 3>They obviously win the bowl game, finished with what eleven

0:41:44.719 --> 0:41:48.240
<v Speaker 3>wins something crazy. This was a good year for Lane Kiffin.

0:41:48.760 --> 0:41:50.600
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if and when he'll move on. At

0:41:50.600 --> 0:41:54.239
<v Speaker 3>some point he probably will. A ten year contract that

0:41:54.360 --> 0:41:58.520
<v Speaker 3>keeps him there through twenty twenty seven is certainly a

0:41:58.520 --> 0:41:59.680
<v Speaker 3>bit of a leap of faith.

0:42:00.280 --> 0:42:01.879
<v Speaker 1>However, when you're FAU.

0:42:01.560 --> 0:42:04.200
<v Speaker 3>You gotta try stuff, and I admire it. He did

0:42:04.239 --> 0:42:07.640
<v Speaker 3>a good job this season. In the bowl game went

0:42:07.680 --> 0:42:11.120
<v Speaker 3>forward a bunch on fourth down, was trying to I

0:42:11.120 --> 0:42:13.920
<v Speaker 3>guess get back at what was it the ad for Akron,

0:42:14.600 --> 0:42:20.520
<v Speaker 3>whom Lane claimed had some trash talk for the Owls, Owls,

0:42:21.120 --> 0:42:24.440
<v Speaker 3>Owls fifty to three was your final score?

0:42:24.920 --> 0:42:27.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they finished the season winning what ten straight games

0:42:27.960 --> 0:42:30.040
<v Speaker 1>after losing a cup. I mean to you know, Navy

0:42:30.080 --> 0:42:32.720
<v Speaker 1>in Wisconsin and the Buffalo loss is sort of inexcusable.

0:42:32.719 --> 0:42:35.520
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, hell of a year for FAU.

0:42:35.760 --> 0:42:39.440
<v Speaker 2>And at some point some team, be it at a

0:42:39.760 --> 0:42:42.560
<v Speaker 2>bigger group of five place or a power five place,

0:42:43.160 --> 0:42:46.560
<v Speaker 2>will know perhaps the Lane Kiffin is not healthy for them, but.

0:42:46.520 --> 0:42:48.120
<v Speaker 1>They just have that craving tie.

0:42:48.239 --> 0:42:48.399
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:42:48.480 --> 0:42:51.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Lane Kiffin will end up somewhere all right.

0:42:51.680 --> 0:42:59.239
<v Speaker 4>On that note again, the week at long last, we

0:42:59.280 --> 0:43:07.160
<v Speaker 4>get to our bowl previews, Dan, Yeah, we've got one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight,

0:43:07.960 --> 0:43:12.120
<v Speaker 4>nine to ten games to discuss here this evening.

0:43:12.640 --> 0:43:15.880
<v Speaker 3>Hope everyone's doing well in their bowl pool. Perhaps on

0:43:15.920 --> 0:43:18.520
<v Speaker 3>our next show we'll give everyone an update as to

0:43:18.560 --> 0:43:22.839
<v Speaker 3>where the standings are in our confidence pool for.

0:43:22.840 --> 0:43:23.239
<v Speaker 1>Now, though.

0:43:23.320 --> 0:43:26.600
<v Speaker 3>Let's start with the Foster Farms Bowl. They played this

0:43:26.640 --> 0:43:31.600
<v Speaker 3>one in Levi's Stadium in Santa Clara, California. Is played

0:43:31.640 --> 0:43:35.360
<v Speaker 3>on December twenty seventh at eight thirty pm on Fox.

0:43:36.280 --> 0:43:38.400
<v Speaker 1>It is a close matchup.

0:43:38.520 --> 0:43:41.719
<v Speaker 3>And I say close because the Arizona Wildcats are only

0:43:41.760 --> 0:43:47.600
<v Speaker 3>about a field goal favorite over the perdu A boiler Makers. Daniel,

0:43:47.600 --> 0:43:50.080
<v Speaker 3>what is our gift situation for the Foster Farms Bowl time?

0:43:50.120 --> 0:43:54.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm glad you asked, so perdue players Arizona players be

0:43:54.280 --> 0:43:58.560
<v Speaker 2>walking away with a fossil Watch solid Yeah, Sony XB

0:43:58.719 --> 0:44:02.560
<v Speaker 2>nine fifty and one on extra based noise canceling headphones.

0:44:02.600 --> 0:44:03.560
<v Speaker 1>Oh that's a mouthful.

0:44:04.239 --> 0:44:06.000
<v Speaker 2>I think that's a great gift. I would love to

0:44:06.040 --> 0:44:09.839
<v Speaker 2>have that, especially big Bluetooth here, big Bluetooth year if

0:44:09.840 --> 0:44:12.000
<v Speaker 2>you're a Purdue player got a long flight on back

0:44:12.040 --> 0:44:12.680
<v Speaker 2>to Indiana.

0:44:13.480 --> 0:44:15.839
<v Speaker 1>Sony headphone sound like a good thing to.

0:44:15.800 --> 0:44:19.480
<v Speaker 2>Have a timbuckto backpack, ty, I have a timbucktoo, messenger

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0:44:22.640 --> 0:44:26.040
<v Speaker 1>It's a good bag. I gotta tell you. Good bag. Coin.

0:44:26.719 --> 0:44:31.040
<v Speaker 2>So there's that a coin coin coin it just says

0:44:31.080 --> 0:44:34.840
<v Speaker 2>the word coin, not bit, just a regular coin, regular

0:44:34.880 --> 0:44:37.319
<v Speaker 2>ass coin. And this game is it's Santa Clair, right,

0:44:37.320 --> 0:44:40.360
<v Speaker 2>It's not San Francisco Levi's State By Stadium, which is

0:44:40.360 --> 0:44:42.120
<v Speaker 2>a bit of a bummer. I'd much rather played at

0:44:42.200 --> 0:44:45.200
<v Speaker 2>and T good garlic fries and a twenty five dollars

0:44:45.239 --> 0:44:49.160
<v Speaker 2>Apple iTunes gift card. So okay, I'm thinking this isn't

0:44:49.200 --> 0:44:51.400
<v Speaker 2>like the B plus A minus rank not bad.

0:44:52.320 --> 0:44:55.080
<v Speaker 3>It's not bad at all. This is a potentially fun game.

0:44:55.480 --> 0:44:58.879
<v Speaker 3>Everyone knows about Khalil Tait. He's gonna have a hard

0:44:58.920 --> 0:45:02.399
<v Speaker 3>time running in this game if he brings his arm.

0:45:03.280 --> 0:45:06.719
<v Speaker 3>The arm could be a problem for Purdue. Purdue has

0:45:06.719 --> 0:45:10.240
<v Speaker 3>not been great against the pass, but perdue very quietly

0:45:10.880 --> 0:45:14.400
<v Speaker 3>a top thirty defense sort of been my pet team

0:45:14.600 --> 0:45:18.320
<v Speaker 3>all year. They've not disappointed me, unlike Notre Dame. I

0:45:18.320 --> 0:45:21.400
<v Speaker 3>didn't really have any expectations for Purdue right, and therefore

0:45:21.400 --> 0:45:24.799
<v Speaker 3>I've never been disappointed by them the entire year through.

0:45:24.840 --> 0:45:26.240
<v Speaker 1>So I'm inclined to go Purdue.

0:45:26.239 --> 0:45:29.840
<v Speaker 3>Here plus the points, let's take him outright to the

0:45:29.840 --> 0:45:31.320
<v Speaker 3>tune of twenty confidence points.

0:45:31.719 --> 0:45:34.839
<v Speaker 1>Whooa Tyler, I dig it?

0:45:35.960 --> 0:45:38.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Arizona, they had the big win against Wazoo, but

0:45:38.520 --> 0:45:40.439
<v Speaker 2>aside from that, there was nothing that big. The loss

0:45:40.480 --> 0:45:42.920
<v Speaker 2>to ASU in the Territorial Cup was not great. You

0:45:42.960 --> 0:45:45.480
<v Speaker 2>mentioned Khalil Tate. The rest of the backfield's wonderful. The

0:45:45.560 --> 0:45:48.560
<v Speaker 2>defense is pretty bad, but they do a good job

0:45:48.600 --> 0:45:51.560
<v Speaker 2>keeping bigger passes in front. But that's not how perdue wins.

0:45:51.680 --> 0:45:54.959
<v Speaker 2>You know, Purdue had, you know, losing to Rutgers in Nebraska.

0:45:55.080 --> 0:45:57.719
<v Speaker 2>Not a great way to sort of back half of

0:45:57.760 --> 0:45:59.800
<v Speaker 2>the season. You know, they had good wins against Ohio,

0:46:00.080 --> 0:46:02.960
<v Speaker 2>do in Iowa, in Indiana early on. But yeah, you're right,

0:46:02.960 --> 0:46:05.960
<v Speaker 2>that defense is great, especially against the run, just completely

0:46:06.080 --> 0:46:09.000
<v Speaker 2>lights out, and they did. They ran pretty well, so

0:46:09.280 --> 0:46:12.720
<v Speaker 2>I with the ability to run and stop the run,

0:46:13.400 --> 0:46:15.400
<v Speaker 2>I think Purdue is in a good position. I like

0:46:15.440 --> 0:46:18.440
<v Speaker 2>the Boilers here, not as confident because I think Khalil

0:46:18.440 --> 0:46:22.600
<v Speaker 2>Tate can bust something or six. So I'm gonna say

0:46:22.600 --> 0:46:25.479
<v Speaker 2>Purdue with about a thirteen to fourteen confidence level.

0:46:25.800 --> 0:46:30.520
<v Speaker 3>I'm feeling confident in Purdue in their defense and in

0:46:30.800 --> 0:46:36.680
<v Speaker 3>my boy Elijah Sindelar Cindela. I'm going Purdue here. I

0:46:36.719 --> 0:46:43.239
<v Speaker 3>think the sindelarity happens in this game. It's Cinularity. Yeah,

0:46:43.280 --> 0:46:48.160
<v Speaker 3>thank you. Let's go Purdue outright. We agree, we let's go.

0:46:48.120 --> 0:46:51.920
<v Speaker 2>To the Academy Sports and Outdoors Texas Bowl.

0:46:53.840 --> 0:46:55.360
<v Speaker 3>That's a weird sponsor, Dan.

0:46:56.320 --> 0:46:58.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it doesn't sound like they probably had to pay

0:46:58.200 --> 0:46:58.600
<v Speaker 2>a lot.

0:46:59.000 --> 0:47:03.760
<v Speaker 3>Academy Sports and Outdoors Texas Bowl in the nurg Energy

0:47:03.840 --> 0:47:07.879
<v Speaker 3>Stadium in Houston. Also on December twenty seventh, this one

0:47:07.880 --> 0:47:11.759
<v Speaker 3>at nine pm on ESPN. We've got the Misura Tigers

0:47:12.440 --> 0:47:17.919
<v Speaker 3>a three point favorite over the Texas Longhorns.

0:47:17.960 --> 0:47:20.600
<v Speaker 1>Dan, what's the gift situation here? Please? I had to

0:47:20.640 --> 0:47:22.000
<v Speaker 1>learn what Academy Sports was.

0:47:22.040 --> 0:47:24.800
<v Speaker 2>It's sort of like somewhere between a Dick's Sporting Goods

0:47:24.840 --> 0:47:27.759
<v Speaker 2>and a Cabella's Sporting Goods hunting stuff kind of thing

0:47:27.760 --> 0:47:28.040
<v Speaker 2>like that.

0:47:28.600 --> 0:47:29.440
<v Speaker 1>There's a gift.

0:47:29.239 --> 0:47:34.000
<v Speaker 2>Suite Academy Sports, an outdoors gift card which seems pretty good,

0:47:34.440 --> 0:47:38.280
<v Speaker 2>seems relevant, Adidas Duffel bag and a belt buckle.

0:47:39.040 --> 0:47:40.640
<v Speaker 3>They're doing the Texas thing, aren't they?

0:47:40.880 --> 0:47:41.759
<v Speaker 1>The I thing?

0:47:42.400 --> 0:47:44.840
<v Speaker 2>If it's just like the buckle is some sort of

0:47:44.880 --> 0:47:48.239
<v Speaker 2>like the Texas Star or something like that, that's pretty good.

0:47:48.320 --> 0:47:51.680
<v Speaker 2>If it's an Academy Sports logo, nobody's gonna wear that.

0:47:52.280 --> 0:47:55.480
<v Speaker 3>Where would you wear a Texas belt buckle right now

0:47:55.480 --> 0:47:56.200
<v Speaker 3>in your everyday life?

0:47:56.200 --> 0:47:57.160
<v Speaker 1>Would you wear that to work?

0:47:57.560 --> 0:47:59.759
<v Speaker 2>If it were like a star or like some sort

0:47:59.760 --> 0:48:04.080
<v Speaker 2>of horns, some sort of cowboy type thing, you would

0:48:04.080 --> 0:48:07.560
<v Speaker 2>wear that with your cowboy boots to work. I probably

0:48:07.640 --> 0:48:10.040
<v Speaker 2>would not. Maybe I would wear it to something like

0:48:10.080 --> 0:48:14.840
<v Speaker 2>the Piesmen as just sort of a goof. But I

0:48:14.880 --> 0:48:18.719
<v Speaker 2>don't see myself wearing I think a belt buckle would

0:48:18.760 --> 0:48:21.399
<v Speaker 2>overwhelm my pretty weak waist, so.

0:48:21.400 --> 0:48:24.040
<v Speaker 3>I would agree with that. Yeah, mind as well. So Dan, Look,

0:48:24.719 --> 0:48:27.200
<v Speaker 3>this game is in Texas, which means it's a virtual

0:48:27.320 --> 0:48:30.520
<v Speaker 3>home game. It's called the Texas Bowl for crying out loud,

0:48:30.640 --> 0:48:35.600
<v Speaker 3>so at least that I think favors the Longhorns. But

0:48:36.000 --> 0:48:40.000
<v Speaker 3>while nobody was paying attention, Missouri was ripping off six

0:48:40.040 --> 0:48:42.879
<v Speaker 3>in a row. They close out the year. They put

0:48:42.920 --> 0:48:46.560
<v Speaker 3>an offense together forty three touchdowns for Drew Locke at quarterback,

0:48:47.120 --> 0:48:51.200
<v Speaker 3>a good rushing attack with ish witter Jamon Moore as

0:48:51.239 --> 0:48:55.279
<v Speaker 3>the senior leader on an otherwise young wide receiving corps.

0:48:55.600 --> 0:48:57.000
<v Speaker 1>There was a lot to like there.

0:48:58.239 --> 0:49:02.160
<v Speaker 3>However, if the boys in the truck could could just

0:49:02.320 --> 0:49:04.560
<v Speaker 3>lay down that bed of classical music for.

0:49:04.640 --> 0:49:09.120
<v Speaker 1>Me, yeah. Oh wow, Dan.

0:49:09.200 --> 0:49:11.319
<v Speaker 3>Here's the S and P rank of each of the

0:49:11.360 --> 0:49:13.040
<v Speaker 3>teams that Missouri beat this season.

0:49:13.560 --> 0:49:14.400
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I'm excited.

0:49:15.320 --> 0:49:21.440
<v Speaker 3>Not ranked ninety eight one, nineteen eighty seven.

0:49:22.000 --> 0:49:27.680
<v Speaker 1>One oh seven, eighty one, ninety two.

0:49:30.320 --> 0:49:34.759
<v Speaker 3>Not the toughest of competition there in their seven victories

0:49:34.760 --> 0:49:35.400
<v Speaker 3>that I.

0:49:35.239 --> 0:49:38.239
<v Speaker 1>Just describe and not their fault, not their fault. Necessarily,

0:49:38.239 --> 0:49:39.759
<v Speaker 1>they beat who was in front of them in the

0:49:39.800 --> 0:49:43.600
<v Speaker 1>second half of the year. But you're right, Vanderbilt was

0:49:43.640 --> 0:49:44.879
<v Speaker 1>their signature wave.

0:49:45.000 --> 0:49:48.040
<v Speaker 3>They played three teams inside the top forty, and they

0:49:48.080 --> 0:49:52.399
<v Speaker 3>got mulled by all of them. I am absolutely going

0:49:52.440 --> 0:49:56.080
<v Speaker 3>to take Texas in this football games home game. I

0:49:56.120 --> 0:49:59.680
<v Speaker 3>don't feel superbly confident about it, but quite honestly, I

0:49:59.719 --> 0:50:02.279
<v Speaker 3>backed myself into a corner with some of my other

0:50:02.320 --> 0:50:05.359
<v Speaker 3>confidence picks. So we're gonna go Texas. We're gonna stand

0:50:05.360 --> 0:50:07.920
<v Speaker 3>by them outright, and we're just gonna go with twenty

0:50:07.960 --> 0:50:09.200
<v Speaker 3>one confidence points on it.

0:50:09.800 --> 0:50:15.760
<v Speaker 2>I just agree, mostly because Texas's big win was Iowa

0:50:15.840 --> 0:50:19.320
<v Speaker 2>State with Jacob park by not a lot, West Virginia

0:50:19.360 --> 0:50:21.960
<v Speaker 2>with mostly no Will Greer, Kansas State.

0:50:23.040 --> 0:50:23.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't.

0:50:23.360 --> 0:50:25.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't love Texas. They finished the season losing to

0:50:25.360 --> 0:50:29.440
<v Speaker 2>Texas Tech. Relative to their talents, that offense was kind

0:50:29.440 --> 0:50:31.920
<v Speaker 2>of a nightmare. I don't know who's starting at quarterback

0:50:31.960 --> 0:50:35.520
<v Speaker 2>in this game. The defense was terrific, particularly against the run.

0:50:36.040 --> 0:50:39.200
<v Speaker 2>Their past defense was good, but really they were led

0:50:39.200 --> 0:50:41.239
<v Speaker 2>by their rush defense. Missouri is gonna throw the ball

0:50:41.280 --> 0:50:46.359
<v Speaker 2>around a ton and I listen, their past d is

0:50:46.440 --> 0:50:49.439
<v Speaker 2>not bad. Missouri's their rush. They could not stop the run.

0:50:49.520 --> 0:50:52.719
<v Speaker 2>Texas couldn't run the ball. That sort of cancels everything out.

0:50:52.719 --> 0:50:55.400
<v Speaker 2>So probably me, it's a definite problem. I think I

0:50:55.520 --> 0:50:57.759
<v Speaker 2>like Drew Locke. I think I like the Misszuo momentum,

0:50:57.800 --> 0:51:00.839
<v Speaker 2>the mizentum. So I think I'm gonna go Miszoo here.

0:51:00.920 --> 0:51:03.440
<v Speaker 2>Not with a lot of confidence picks, but upper teens,

0:51:03.520 --> 0:51:05.080
<v Speaker 2>maybe seventeen eighteen points.

0:51:05.160 --> 0:51:07.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to MISSOI we disagree. Let's move on. Let's

0:51:07.640 --> 0:51:09.399
<v Speaker 1>talk about the Military Bowl. Up.

0:51:09.400 --> 0:51:11.920
<v Speaker 2>Got one thing because this is a podcast for service.

0:51:12.600 --> 0:51:14.200
<v Speaker 2>If you are going to this game, if you're going

0:51:14.239 --> 0:51:16.680
<v Speaker 2>to be in Houston, Houston's an outstanding food city, you

0:51:16.719 --> 0:51:19.920
<v Speaker 2>should eat everything you can possibly eat. My recommendation maybe

0:51:19.920 --> 0:51:22.839
<v Speaker 2>the best sit down Mexican meal I've ever had. Hugos

0:51:23.000 --> 0:51:27.399
<v Speaker 2>Hugo go to Hugos, So friggin' great.

0:51:27.719 --> 0:51:30.840
<v Speaker 3>Let's move on to the Military Bowl presented by Northrop.

0:51:31.840 --> 0:51:34.920
<v Speaker 3>Is it grummin or Grumman? I always get the rumming, grumming.

0:51:35.920 --> 0:51:39.600
<v Speaker 3>It's a second em in there, huh. They play it

0:51:39.640 --> 0:51:43.400
<v Speaker 3>at Memorial Stadium in Annapolis. They play it on December

0:51:43.440 --> 0:51:46.240
<v Speaker 3>twenty eighth at one point thirty in the PM Eastern

0:51:46.880 --> 0:51:50.640
<v Speaker 3>standard Eastern daylight time, whatever it is on ESPN Standard.

0:51:50.680 --> 0:51:51.640
<v Speaker 1>I believe we're in right now.

0:51:51.719 --> 0:51:55.280
<v Speaker 3>We've got Virginia about a one one and a half

0:51:55.320 --> 0:51:59.320
<v Speaker 3>point favorite over the Navy midshipmen, who are again playing

0:51:59.360 --> 0:52:02.560
<v Speaker 3>a home game. The numbers dan They say that this

0:52:02.600 --> 0:52:05.800
<v Speaker 3>one is just about dead even I guess it favors

0:52:05.920 --> 0:52:09.399
<v Speaker 3>Navy that they're playing on their home turf. Does the

0:52:09.440 --> 0:52:12.360
<v Speaker 3>gift situation give us any kind of lean here?

0:52:13.160 --> 0:52:18.719
<v Speaker 2>So we have a Rockham socks package and under armour

0:52:18.800 --> 0:52:23.360
<v Speaker 2>beanie and backpack under armour of course, based in Maryland,

0:52:23.400 --> 0:52:25.800
<v Speaker 2>so that sort of makes sense, and I imagine it

0:52:25.840 --> 0:52:28.960
<v Speaker 2>will be cold, so that at least seems thoughtful.

0:52:28.960 --> 0:52:30.320
<v Speaker 1>But that's all I have listed.

0:52:30.560 --> 0:52:34.080
<v Speaker 3>So no Lean from the gifts, huh.

0:52:33.239 --> 0:52:35.560
<v Speaker 1>No real lean from the gifts now, not that I

0:52:35.560 --> 0:52:36.480
<v Speaker 1>can see.

0:52:37.880 --> 0:52:41.200
<v Speaker 3>Virginia played Georgia Tech earlier in the year, back at

0:52:41.239 --> 0:52:44.200
<v Speaker 3>the beginning of November. They won that game forty to

0:52:44.239 --> 0:52:48.279
<v Speaker 3>thirty six over the Yellow Jackets. At a minimum, we

0:52:48.400 --> 0:52:53.880
<v Speaker 3>know that they can handle a marginally better version of

0:52:54.360 --> 0:52:57.400
<v Speaker 3>the Navy offense. And I think when you consider the

0:52:57.400 --> 0:53:02.120
<v Speaker 3>fact that the Navy defense is the sided garbage, Wow,

0:53:02.280 --> 0:53:05.480
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna go Virginia here, I'm gonna go Virginia. I'm

0:53:05.520 --> 0:53:07.520
<v Speaker 3>gonna go out right, I'm gonna go to the tune

0:53:07.560 --> 0:53:09.960
<v Speaker 3>of twenty two confidence points.

0:53:10.200 --> 0:53:14.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's certainly a choice. I think I'm going to disagree. So, yes,

0:53:14.480 --> 0:53:19.040
<v Speaker 2>Navy did lose to Army. Navy did finish the season what,

0:53:19.239 --> 0:53:24.280
<v Speaker 2>losing five of six. Yeah, as far as I can tell,

0:53:24.440 --> 0:53:28.520
<v Speaker 2>I think Virginia also ended the season lose.

0:53:28.600 --> 0:53:30.879
<v Speaker 1>Did they also lose five of six to finish the year?

0:53:31.000 --> 0:53:33.759
<v Speaker 2>They got shut out to end the year, They did

0:53:33.800 --> 0:53:35.600
<v Speaker 2>get shut out by Virginia Tech.

0:53:35.680 --> 0:53:37.440
<v Speaker 1>They got walloped ten.

0:53:37.560 --> 0:53:37.840
<v Speaker 3>Nothing.

0:53:39.680 --> 0:53:42.320
<v Speaker 2>To me, these teams seem relatively even. I think Virginia

0:53:42.360 --> 0:53:46.480
<v Speaker 2>has the advantage with Kurt Bankert throwing against a extraordinarily

0:53:46.520 --> 0:53:49.759
<v Speaker 2>bad pass defense from Navy. But Navy was pretty good

0:53:49.760 --> 0:53:51.960
<v Speaker 2>against the run. Virginia can't really run it, so who

0:53:52.040 --> 0:53:55.040
<v Speaker 2>knows what that actually means. But I think the best

0:53:55.040 --> 0:53:58.200
<v Speaker 2>thing in this game is probably still to me, even

0:53:58.360 --> 0:53:59.920
<v Speaker 2>seeing the first two and a half quarters of kur

0:54:00.080 --> 0:54:04.120
<v Speaker 2>Bankert versus versus Miami, which was certainly impressive, is zach Aby.

0:54:04.200 --> 0:54:06.719
<v Speaker 2>He's a machine. I like him on the grounds. I

0:54:06.840 --> 0:54:10.239
<v Speaker 2>like the fact that it's a home game. I don't

0:54:10.280 --> 0:54:13.160
<v Speaker 2>fully trust Virginia's defense. They gave up a lot of

0:54:13.160 --> 0:54:15.160
<v Speaker 2>big runs this year, so I'm gonna go with Navy.

0:54:15.320 --> 0:54:16.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm going Navy at home.

0:54:16.400 --> 0:54:22.680
<v Speaker 1>Interesting. Interesting, Yeah, So in twenty twenty two, somewhere in there.

0:54:22.840 --> 0:54:26.279
<v Speaker 3>The Camping World Bowl is up next. It's also on

0:54:26.360 --> 0:54:29.280
<v Speaker 3>December the twenty eighth, This one at five point fifteen.

0:54:29.719 --> 0:54:33.480
<v Speaker 3>They played in Camping World Stadium in Orlando, Florida. It's

0:54:33.520 --> 0:54:36.520
<v Speaker 3>on ESPN if you want to watch. It's Oklahoma State

0:54:37.600 --> 0:54:41.920
<v Speaker 3>a four and a half point favorite over Virginia tech Den.

0:54:42.400 --> 0:54:46.160
<v Speaker 3>What kind of gifts do they give from Camping World.

0:54:46.200 --> 0:54:51.239
<v Speaker 3>I would think like a lot of portable canteens and tents,

0:54:51.680 --> 0:54:52.279
<v Speaker 3>things of that.

0:54:52.400 --> 0:54:57.880
<v Speaker 2>Like I'm seeing a timely watch company watch. Fine, okay,

0:54:58.040 --> 0:54:59.440
<v Speaker 2>you can use that when you go camp can you

0:54:59.440 --> 0:55:03.880
<v Speaker 2>start a fire with that. Yeah, I guess you could

0:55:03.960 --> 0:55:06.360
<v Speaker 2>reflect sunlight off the face if.

0:55:06.200 --> 0:55:08.399
<v Speaker 1>You really knew what you were doing right up?

0:55:08.640 --> 0:55:14.040
<v Speaker 2>Sure, and four hundred damn dollars to Best Buy. Wow,

0:55:14.600 --> 0:55:17.120
<v Speaker 2>I'll take that. I will happily take that. See now,

0:55:17.239 --> 0:55:21.960
<v Speaker 2>Camping World is a place. It's a retailer, right, I

0:55:21.960 --> 0:55:24.919
<v Speaker 2>think why it sounds right? Why does Camping World give

0:55:25.880 --> 0:55:28.200
<v Speaker 2>a four hundred dollars gift card out to a place

0:55:28.280 --> 0:55:29.440
<v Speaker 2>other than Camping World?

0:55:31.760 --> 0:55:32.600
<v Speaker 1>It's a good question.

0:55:32.800 --> 0:55:35.880
<v Speaker 2>You got to find some thing to entertain yourself with

0:55:36.080 --> 0:55:39.799
<v Speaker 2>while you're camping. So maybe you buy some I don't know,

0:55:39.840 --> 0:55:43.120
<v Speaker 2>a bluetooth speaker to listen out nature. Maybe you buy

0:55:43.160 --> 0:55:44.880
<v Speaker 2>yourself some CDs.

0:55:45.000 --> 0:55:47.040
<v Speaker 1>Do CDs still exist? I have no ight. Maybe they could.

0:55:48.760 --> 0:55:50.160
<v Speaker 2>You could buy a lot of things. I don't know,

0:55:51.080 --> 0:55:54.640
<v Speaker 2>washing machine.

0:55:53.600 --> 0:55:54.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

0:55:54.520 --> 0:55:56.640
<v Speaker 3>Four hundred dollars isn't bad, though, the Best Buy out.

0:55:56.640 --> 0:55:59.400
<v Speaker 1>I'd rather have. I'd rather have Best Buy. I'm not

0:55:59.480 --> 0:55:59.920
<v Speaker 1>questioning that.

0:56:00.320 --> 0:56:03.399
<v Speaker 3>I am legit interested in this football game because there

0:56:03.480 --> 0:56:08.360
<v Speaker 3>is definitely a strength on strength component in Oklahoma State's

0:56:08.440 --> 0:56:12.880
<v Speaker 3>offense against a really good, really legit Virginia Tech defense.

0:56:13.920 --> 0:56:17.400
<v Speaker 3>What troubles me though, is when you look at Virginia

0:56:17.400 --> 0:56:20.719
<v Speaker 3>Tech's offense, not any team out there can beat Pitt

0:56:20.760 --> 0:56:23.719
<v Speaker 3>by only six Not only team out there can beat

0:56:23.800 --> 0:56:27.399
<v Speaker 3>Virginia by a ten to zero margin to close out

0:56:27.400 --> 0:56:30.160
<v Speaker 3>the year, rivalry or not. I don't know how many

0:56:30.160 --> 0:56:33.640
<v Speaker 3>points they can score on Oklahoma State because there's a

0:56:33.680 --> 0:56:36.800
<v Speaker 3>better chance than not that Oklahoma State is going to

0:56:36.840 --> 0:56:40.359
<v Speaker 3>score at least what twenty eight. I don't care how

0:56:40.360 --> 0:56:44.600
<v Speaker 3>good the Tech defense is. How many points can Virginia

0:56:44.640 --> 0:56:48.799
<v Speaker 3>Tech score on offense because they've been somewhat lousy all year.

0:56:49.000 --> 0:56:51.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and now no Cam Phillips. They're a leading receiver.

0:56:51.360 --> 0:56:53.239
<v Speaker 2>He is out injured, so not playing in this game,

0:56:53.320 --> 0:56:57.080
<v Speaker 2>not having the big weapon for Josh X, and especially

0:56:57.080 --> 0:57:00.799
<v Speaker 2>when Virginia Tech could really run the ball with much consistency,

0:57:01.680 --> 0:57:05.200
<v Speaker 2>that's hurtful. Tie, that is hurtful. We saw Oklahoma States

0:57:05.200 --> 0:57:07.960
<v Speaker 2>score points against pretty much the best teams on their

0:57:08.000 --> 0:57:11.080
<v Speaker 2>schedule other than you know, that weird Texas overtime game

0:57:11.440 --> 0:57:13.879
<v Speaker 2>in which they won thirteen to ten. But other than that,

0:57:14.680 --> 0:57:16.840
<v Speaker 2>if they did one thing well was score.

0:57:16.960 --> 0:57:17.520
<v Speaker 1>It was moved.

0:57:17.560 --> 0:57:19.520
<v Speaker 2>The ball got a little ugly at times, and games

0:57:19.560 --> 0:57:21.680
<v Speaker 2>like West Virginia, but they're able to turn it on late.

0:57:22.480 --> 0:57:25.040
<v Speaker 2>I listen, the strength on the strength thing is very real.

0:57:25.360 --> 0:57:27.840
<v Speaker 2>And I don't know if Oklahoma State had any one

0:57:27.960 --> 0:57:31.200
<v Speaker 2>big signature win Iowa State late, Texas Tech late, I

0:57:31.240 --> 0:57:34.480
<v Speaker 2>don't know, but they sort of go as their running

0:57:34.520 --> 0:57:37.560
<v Speaker 2>backs go. Justice Hill had a mostly very good year.

0:57:37.840 --> 0:57:42.880
<v Speaker 2>You know, passing game was just absurd, and Virginia Tech's defense,

0:57:43.000 --> 0:57:46.000
<v Speaker 2>especially against the run, was great, which makes me think

0:57:46.160 --> 0:57:51.360
<v Speaker 2>Virginia Tech has a chance. But ultimately you're right, I

0:57:51.400 --> 0:57:54.120
<v Speaker 2>don't know how they consistently moved the ball. They generated

0:57:54.160 --> 0:57:57.040
<v Speaker 2>some big plays, but you know, to just go drive

0:57:57.120 --> 0:57:59.320
<v Speaker 2>to drive, moving the ball down the field, putting themselves

0:57:59.320 --> 0:58:02.200
<v Speaker 2>in position to score. They certainly took a step back

0:58:02.240 --> 0:58:04.560
<v Speaker 2>from where they were in twenty sixteen. So I'm going

0:58:04.560 --> 0:58:07.640
<v Speaker 2>to Oklahoma State just because I don't know if point

0:58:07.680 --> 0:58:09.360
<v Speaker 2>for point Virginia Tech can be there.

0:58:09.640 --> 0:58:12.480
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to go Oklahoma State. I'm going to lay

0:58:12.480 --> 0:58:14.480
<v Speaker 3>the four and a half. I'm going to take them

0:58:14.480 --> 0:58:17.200
<v Speaker 3>out right to the tune of thirty five confidence points.

0:58:16.880 --> 0:58:18.920
<v Speaker 1>I was about twenty eight, twenty nine.

0:58:19.000 --> 0:58:21.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I feel pretty good about this one. Okay, let's

0:58:21.760 --> 0:58:25.000
<v Speaker 3>move on to another game. On December of the twenty eighth,

0:58:25.040 --> 0:58:28.720
<v Speaker 3>at nine pm on ESPN YEP, between.

0:58:28.320 --> 0:58:29.680
<v Speaker 1>TCU and Stanford.

0:58:29.760 --> 0:58:32.840
<v Speaker 3>TCU a two and a half point favorite in the

0:58:33.000 --> 0:58:36.360
<v Speaker 3>Valero Alamo Bowl. They played in the Alamo Dome in

0:58:36.440 --> 0:58:43.120
<v Speaker 3>San Antonio, Texas. Dan, let's finish strong here. Okay, if

0:58:43.160 --> 0:58:47.040
<v Speaker 3>you're me, let's pick against TCU for just one more

0:58:47.040 --> 0:58:47.760
<v Speaker 3>game this season?

0:58:47.760 --> 0:58:50.880
<v Speaker 1>Shall we listen? That's a choice. You can make sure.

0:58:51.320 --> 0:58:53.840
<v Speaker 1>We had a very public breakup back in September.

0:58:54.160 --> 0:58:56.520
<v Speaker 2>I stayed friends with TCU. I don't know if that's awkward,

0:58:56.640 --> 0:58:57.800
<v Speaker 2>but like, we're still cool.

0:58:58.160 --> 0:59:01.959
<v Speaker 3>It's it's really no way to live having the paparazzi

0:59:02.000 --> 0:59:04.240
<v Speaker 3>set up across the street day in and day out.

0:59:04.280 --> 0:59:08.040
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I'm holding firm. I am gonna go Stanford here.

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<v Speaker 3>I am not at all confident, I am not at

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<v Speaker 3>all interested in watching this football game. So I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>go Stanford to the tune of six confidence points. I

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<v Speaker 3>think probably a three point game one way or the other.

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<v Speaker 3>And I just like Bryce Love more than I do

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<v Speaker 3>anything on the TCU side, more than I do Ken Hill,

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<v Speaker 3>more than I do Gary Patterson or the TCU defense.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's just go Stanford. Let's hold our nose and go

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<v Speaker 3>with the cardinal.

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<v Speaker 1>Is he playing Bryce Love? I mean, I honestly don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe, as far as I can tell, maybe, Yeah, so certainly.

0:59:43.640 --> 0:59:47.200
<v Speaker 2>Christian McCaffrey didn't play in his final game, but always

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<v Speaker 2>sort of understand running backs, especially one like Bryce Love

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<v Speaker 2>who has NFL potential to succeed given he was the

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<v Speaker 2>clear best home run hitter in college football this season.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go with TCU here because Stanford is like

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<v Speaker 2>squarely like they're clearly the twenty eighth best team in

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<v Speaker 2>the country or the you know, the twentieth best team whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>They do everything all right, other than Bryce Love. That

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<v Speaker 2>was their offense. Bryce Love was their offense. They don't

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<v Speaker 2>have a bad loss on their schedule. They didn't sort

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<v Speaker 2>of have an off week and lose to a team

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<v Speaker 2>like I don't know, Oregon right were down or Arizona

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<v Speaker 2>State or something like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Stanford's like buying an Amazon Basics branded office chair.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, like.

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<v Speaker 3>It'll it'll it'll go up and down, but it won't recline.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just the basics, just the bare minimum that you

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<v Speaker 3>need to get by.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there are a club Sandwich. Nobody has ever said

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<v Speaker 2>you have to go out of your way and stop

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<v Speaker 2>your roadchip and drive forty five miles off the interstate

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<v Speaker 2>for this club Sandwich, and that's fine. Club Sandwich, always solid,

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<v Speaker 2>always good, always a great option. Stanford, their defense was

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<v Speaker 2>surprisingly pretty average, especially against the run this year, but

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<v Speaker 2>they did have the benefit of the offense just sitting

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<v Speaker 2>on the ball, so this was a well rested defense.

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<v Speaker 2>I assume nothing will change against TCU, who, of course

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<v Speaker 2>speed Oklahoma State. They beat Texas, they lost in supremely

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<v Speaker 2>ugly fashion to Iowa State. They mostly ran the ball

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<v Speaker 2>pretty well with Darius Anderson and Kyle Hicks. Ken Hill

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<v Speaker 2>most certainly took a step forward this year, even though

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<v Speaker 2>he finished the season in kind of disappointing fashion. This

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<v Speaker 2>was still a crazy good defense. Little leaky in the back,

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<v Speaker 2>but that's Stanford's not the team to take advantage. I

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<v Speaker 2>think the best thing in this game, especially considering we

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what to expect out of Bryce Love and

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<v Speaker 2>his usage, is the TCU defense. So I'm rolling with

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<v Speaker 2>the Frogs because I am an Oregon fan, and what

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<v Speaker 2>I have learned is not to bet against TCU in

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<v Speaker 2>San Antonio.

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<v Speaker 1>It's still its tie.

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<v Speaker 3>What's our gift situation here at the Alamobile.

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<v Speaker 2>We have let me load it up real quick, Tie,

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<v Speaker 2>because I was looking up things that made me sad.

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<v Speaker 1>An Amazon Echo show. I'm out, what is the show? Show?

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's got the little video monitor.

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<v Speaker 2>H Okay, it'll show you things the one. It's one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and seventy five dollars Amazon gift card. Okay, that's

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's significant. You've get a lot of things

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<v Speaker 2>on Amazon. We got a couple Jody with an eye

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<v Speaker 2>and I had a couple of gifts at our wedding

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<v Speaker 2>that were just like, yeah, here's like a thousand bucks

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<v Speaker 2>to Amazon, and I'll tell you something, Tie.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing made me happier, that'll work right. Nothing made me

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<v Speaker 2>happy living that prime life. Baby fossil watch a mini helmet.

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<v Speaker 2>Some Rockham socks rock them really with a strong presence.

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<v Speaker 3>This year they should send us some. We would wear them.

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<v Speaker 3>Come on, rom I.

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<v Speaker 2>Would one wear the beautiful organ duck socks, those those

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<v Speaker 2>Nitney Lion socks for Penn State.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I'd be the name of Rockham socks earlier.

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<v Speaker 3>But I would we take it back? Yeah, I take

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<v Speaker 3>it back. I'd be willing to give them a try our.

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<v Speaker 1>Feet are cold and a team panoramic photo. Okay, so yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>not bad, not bad? All right?

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<v Speaker 2>No where to eat in San Antonio, I apologize, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's cool.

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<v Speaker 3>The San Diego County Credit Union Holiday Bowl.

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<v Speaker 2>This is my favorite game, not the matchup. This is

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<v Speaker 2>my favorite bowl game I've attended played.

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<v Speaker 1>Who would have guessed?

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<v Speaker 3>In San Diego at San Diego County Credit.

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<v Speaker 1>Union Stadium, it's all happening.

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<v Speaker 3>Who knew that the Credit Union had all this damn money?

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<v Speaker 2>Where does so? Where does the Rose Bowl play? What

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<v Speaker 2>stadium they play at? The Rose Roads in?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, there just aren't as many syllables. It's the

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<v Speaker 3>San Diego County Credit Union Stadium.

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<v Speaker 2>Do we no longer have the point Setia Bowl to that?

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<v Speaker 2>By the wayside, it's gone, so so the Credit Union

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<v Speaker 2>just moved on up.

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<v Speaker 1>Full disclosure.

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<v Speaker 3>I was all sorts of mixed up when I was

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<v Speaker 3>going through making my list and I jotted down San

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<v Speaker 3>Diego County credit Union point.

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<v Speaker 1>Setia Bowl just out of raw happen.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and then I had to go back and double

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<v Speaker 3>take it and triple take it, and yeah, no more

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<v Speaker 3>points Setia Bowl. Enter the Holiday Bowl. San Diego County

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<v Speaker 3>Credit Union. I guess upgrading here getting a game this

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<v Speaker 3>year on December of the twenty eighth at nine pm

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<v Speaker 3>onter FS one between the Washington State squad led by

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<v Speaker 3>Mike Leach and Michigan State led by one Mark D'Antonio.

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<v Speaker 3>Wazoo is a three point favorite. As you mentioned, this

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<v Speaker 3>game is usually a lot of fun. I think there

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<v Speaker 3>are many reasons why this one could be as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's start with the gifts. What's our gift situation.

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<v Speaker 2>Gift situation is as follows for the Santigo Crowny Credit

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<v Speaker 2>Union Holiday Bowl gift suite, Fossil Watch, Ogio backpack.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's it. That's it. That's all I'm saying here.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, a low interest rate mortgage or something. If you're

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<v Speaker 3>interested as well, I've got Wazoo to the tune of

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<v Speaker 3>seven confidence points. I don't have much confidence in this. Originally,

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<v Speaker 3>you might remember, I was all in on Wazoo. Initially,

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<v Speaker 3>I was all in on them. Now I'm gonna walk

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<v Speaker 3>it back a little because the more I think about it,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, I'm right, this is like one hundred

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<v Speaker 3>and ninety percent the kind of game that Michigan State

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<v Speaker 3>wins in the ugliest possible fashion. Oh absolutely, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>go into the grain of that here. I'm gonna stick

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<v Speaker 3>with Wazoo because they were pretty good this season, especially

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<v Speaker 3>on defense. I don't think this is the Wazoo that

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<v Speaker 3>we've seen in the past where they go up against

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<v Speaker 3>a good defense and automatically they're shut down. They can

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<v Speaker 3>also play defense, and Michigan State has struggled offensively. So

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna go Wazoo. But I think all told a

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<v Speaker 3>fun game, a good one to watch, as the Holiday

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<v Speaker 3>Bowl usually is. But let's go Wazoo.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the three or four games that's not on

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<v Speaker 2>the ESPN family of networks, this is a Fox game.

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<v Speaker 1>So maybe Gus Johnson will be calling this game. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what his basketball responsibilities are. And by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, I just remembered something when we were talking

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<v Speaker 2>about the point Setia Bowl. I believe it was the

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<v Speaker 2>point Setia Bowl between San Diego State and Navy.

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<v Speaker 1>Was that the one with that flooding. I was gonna say,

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<v Speaker 1>like the morning of like Bowl officials like, ooh, so

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<v Speaker 1>the field and stadium might be flooded.

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<v Speaker 3>We have four inches of water on the plane, sir.

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<v Speaker 1>This we are.

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<v Speaker 2>We are up to our shids. So may may the

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<v Speaker 2>point Setia Bowl rest in peace. It's in the same stadium.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if there will be Pacific Life commercials.

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<v Speaker 2>I miss you know, the whale, No whale, Hopefully there are.

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<v Speaker 2>I have Michigan State here. I think their defense and

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<v Speaker 2>as good as Washington State's defense also clearly is with

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<v Speaker 2>or without Alex Grinch. Moving forward, we'll see, but he'll

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<v Speaker 2>at least be coaching in this game. I think Michigan

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<v Speaker 2>State's defense, the fact that Brian Lawurki was pretty accurate,

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<v Speaker 2>pretty efficient, didn't throw down field a ton, although Ben

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<v Speaker 2>State fans might disagree with the downfield assessment because he

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<v Speaker 2>hit some big ones in that game. Michigan State, of

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<v Speaker 2>course beat Michigan, Iowa and Penn State. They didn't have

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<v Speaker 2>a bad loss, even though they had ugly losses like

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<v Speaker 2>to Notre Dame and the triple overtime once in Northwestern

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<v Speaker 2>was pretty heartbreaking and just the murderous rampage that Ohio

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<v Speaker 2>State went on. They didn't lose to a bad team,

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<v Speaker 2>so that's at least a positive from where they were

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty sixteen. They couldn't really run, which is a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit surprising. But yeah, the conservative passing game and

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<v Speaker 2>really good defense mostly worked for Michigan State. Wazoo took

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<v Speaker 2>a step back offensively even with the win over USC

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<v Speaker 2>and a shorthanded Oregon. It was I think a pretty

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<v Speaker 2>disappointing year all in all for Luke Fox, who got

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<v Speaker 2>benched a couple of times. But yeah, that defense was

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<v Speaker 2>flat out awesome this year. Hercules Matava was the best

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<v Speaker 2>defensive player in the Pac twelve. So I'm a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit more confident in Michigan State, as you said, perhaps

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<v Speaker 2>winning ugly seventeen sixteen type thing, maybe mid twenties confidence.

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<v Speaker 3>Right now, we must move quickly through the final four

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<v Speaker 3>bowls that we have on the slate here.

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<v Speaker 1>This evening a.

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<v Speaker 3>Little bit of a longer show. Thank you for hanging

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<v Speaker 3>with us. Had a bunch of recruiting stuff to talk about,

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<v Speaker 3>some other bull results that we needed to recap very quickly.

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<v Speaker 3>It is ultimately free content.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and if you're listening to the show in an

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<v Speaker 2>airport or on a plane right now, remember to hydrate

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<v Speaker 2>when you're traveling. Stay hydrated. It'll it'll help your mood.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, things are getting rough, stay hydrated, to get

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<v Speaker 2>some caffeine. Happy to be here with you for the ride.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about the Belk Bowl.

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<v Speaker 3>They play it at Bank of America Stadium in Charlotte,

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<v Speaker 3>North Carolina. It's on December the twenty ninth at one

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<v Speaker 3>pm on ESPM. We've got Wake Forest and the Wolford

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<v Speaker 3>Wagon A three point, pretty much home favorite now Oliver

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<v Speaker 3>Texas A and M. Keep in mind that A and

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<v Speaker 3>M lost their coach. They did get Jimbo Fisher. But

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<v Speaker 3>you know how I feel about teams when they lose

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<v Speaker 3>their coach. So I'm naturally inclined to go with Wake

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<v Speaker 3>Forest here to the tune of twenty five confidence points. Dan,

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<v Speaker 3>you know I've been a big fan of the Wolford

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<v Speaker 3>Wagon all season. Sure, I don't know if A and

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<v Speaker 3>M cares at all about this game, so my inclination

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<v Speaker 3>is go Wake I'm coming in heavy with twenty five

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<v Speaker 3>confidence points. What's our gift situation?

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<v Speaker 2>Shopping trip to the Nordstrom department Belk department stores. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't even know if there is a Nordstrom in North Carolina.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe there is Fossil Watch getting in on the action.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it. That is it? And once again, ty if

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<v Speaker 1>I may, if you are going to the Belk Bowl

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<v Speaker 1>and you're gonna be in Charlotte, may I recommend Futo

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<v Speaker 1>Bhuta Ramen. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>We had some people that went to the a SEC

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<v Speaker 2>Championship game that reported back and supposedly one of them

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<v Speaker 2>played our show.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you see this? I did?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, played our show talking about this ramin spot, which

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<v Speaker 2>we cannot stress enough does not pay us a single sentence, Nope,

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about how delicious are organic? This is all organic,

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<v Speaker 2>but we do expect a lot of free roman if

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<v Speaker 2>either one of us, if we ever go to North

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<v Speaker 2>Carolina gout saying we love this place anyway. Yeah, those

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<v Speaker 2>are the two items, And I think you hit the

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<v Speaker 2>nail on the head. I'm going wake here. They had

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<v Speaker 2>nice wins this year. They beat Louisville, they beat NC State,

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<v Speaker 2>The Wolford wagon was rolling when he was healthy, decent

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<v Speaker 2>defense despite the loss of Mike Galko. So I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>wake here. I know even with text say and I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't really have a bad loss after that UCLA game

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<v Speaker 2>to like a bad team on their schedule. Once Nick

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<v Speaker 2>Starkle came back, it was sort of a different dynamic

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<v Speaker 2>but yeah, I'm going wake here.

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<v Speaker 3>Moving on, Let's go to the Hyundai Sun Bowl. They

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<v Speaker 3>play this one in the Sun Bowl Dan they do

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<v Speaker 3>So Texas, December of the twenty nine to three.

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<v Speaker 1>Pm on CBS.

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<v Speaker 3>We've got North Carolina State the Wolfpack, a six and

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<v Speaker 3>a half half point favorite over new look, new model,

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<v Speaker 3>cracking the coaching administrative matrix that is Arizona State.

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<v Speaker 1>Arizona State lost their.

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<v Speaker 3>Coach and they are, as we've mentioned time and time again,

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<v Speaker 3>they're currently embroiled in this very weird, odd coaching transition.

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<v Speaker 3>None of us has ever seen anything quite like this.

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<v Speaker 3>But you said earlier that Todd Graham's going to coach the.

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<v Speaker 1>Bull game, right, he is his final game with the Devils.

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<v Speaker 3>So we've got two equal and opposite forces at play here.

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<v Speaker 3>We've got perhaps players trying to send out Todd Graham

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<v Speaker 3>on a high note, but we've got most of them

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<v Speaker 3>probably playing in a game they couldn't care less about.

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<v Speaker 3>North Carolina State, on the other hand, I think wants

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<v Speaker 3>to close out the year strong. I think they're trying

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<v Speaker 3>to build for the future, and there's too much uncertainty

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<v Speaker 3>the whole Arizona State thing that I think senior leadership

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<v Speaker 3>on the part of Ryan Finley and others at North

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<v Speaker 3>Carolina State will take over. I like them here to

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<v Speaker 3>the tune of thirty confidence points, Stan See, I was right.

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<v Speaker 1>There with you before.

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<v Speaker 2>I remembered a certain thing, and that is that I

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<v Speaker 2>am very bad at picking games. And my guy, I

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<v Speaker 2>think this is a good Costanza game, Kastancy. Remember your

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<v Speaker 2>Costan's a theory of you know everything that you feel,

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<v Speaker 2>everything that your gut tells you to follow the exact opposite.

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<v Speaker 3>The opposite must be true if the opposite must be true,

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<v Speaker 3>Sam and swim up the stream right. Absolutely, to me,

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<v Speaker 3>it's NC State is solid. They're the type of team

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<v Speaker 3>that beats teams that have cracks. They have an efficient

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<v Speaker 3>senior quarterback who doesn't screw up a whole lot. They've

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<v Speaker 3>got good skill talent. They've got a great edge rusher.

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<v Speaker 3>They just sort of have their act together. In Arizona State,

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<v Speaker 3>they have this lame duck coach who has already been fired.

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<v Speaker 3>There is something about Arizona State being such a bad

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<v Speaker 3>pick that I can't stop loving. Wow, I can't stop loving.

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<v Speaker 3>They have a really good receiver in the kil Harry Right. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>Their defense struggled a bit against the run, but it's

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<v Speaker 3>not like NC State is this huge running team. I

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<v Speaker 3>like to Mario Richard, he's a pretty good running back.

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<v Speaker 3>The offense was fine this year.

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<v Speaker 2>They beat They were like, I don't know, they were

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<v Speaker 2>maybe three and a half plays from going nine and three.

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<v Speaker 3>We were really excited about ASU for a moment in

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<v Speaker 3>time this season.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, they beat Oregon, fully healthy Oregon. They beat Washington,

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<v Speaker 2>they beat Utah, Arizona the territorial. If you had told

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<v Speaker 2>me before the season, Arizona State is beating Oregon, Washington.

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<v Speaker 1>Utah, Arizona.

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<v Speaker 2>That feels like such a successful year. And I get

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<v Speaker 2>the Todd Graham things.

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<v Speaker 1>Is such a bad pick. I love it. It's tantalizing.

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<v Speaker 1>Tie wow.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that's also the Costanza thing right where yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he couldn't help but be in love with a woman

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<v Speaker 2>who hated his guts.

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<v Speaker 3>All Right, I'm gonna go n C State here, But

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<v Speaker 3>I love the cut of your jib on this one, Dan.

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<v Speaker 1>I really do. I'm going Arizona left. They got a

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<v Speaker 1>lame du coach. They're burning out of control out there

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<v Speaker 1>in Tempe, but you're gonna go with them anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going with them anyway it may. It makes so

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<v Speaker 2>little sense.

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<v Speaker 3>I have to It's one the kind of thing that

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<v Speaker 3>only happens in bowl season. Is what's our gift situation?

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, before we move on to the next

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<v Speaker 3>bowl game.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah, there is a gift suite. There is Timely Watch Company.

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<v Speaker 2>I love this sort of very cold war between Timely

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<v Speaker 2>and Fossil. Yeah, so you get a Timely Watch Company watch,

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<v Speaker 2>Majestic pro Base, fleece, pullover, pro Base Ogio, Politian Polyton backpack,

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<v Speaker 2>under armour cap and a coin and just go eat

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<v Speaker 2>Mexican food and nel passo Lovely Town.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's move on.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's go to the Franklin American Mortgage Music City Bowl,

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<v Speaker 3>competing only at the San Diego County Credit Union Holiday

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<v Speaker 3>Bowl for most syllables in a bowl game. They play

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<v Speaker 3>this one in Nissan Stadium in Nashville, Tennessee. Also on

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<v Speaker 3>December twenty ninth, this one at four thirty pm Eastern

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<v Speaker 3>time on ESPN. We got the Northwestern Wildcats, we got

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<v Speaker 3>the Kentucky Wildcats, we got the Wildcat Bowl Dan. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>a whole lot of Wildcat and going on here. Northwestern

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<v Speaker 3>seven and a half point favorite, I am not a

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<v Speaker 3>Northwestern believer.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been a big fan of the quiet.

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<v Speaker 3>Storm motto for their nine and three season, and I

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<v Speaker 3>realized they won their last seven games. They beat Iowa,

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<v Speaker 3>they beat Michigan State. By all accounts, it was a

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<v Speaker 3>pretty good year. Yeah, there's something about Northwestern that I

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<v Speaker 3>can't buy into. Hook line and sinker. I'm definitely going

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<v Speaker 3>Kentucky plus the seven and a half. I think I'm

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<v Speaker 3>gonna go the Kentucky Wildcats outright to the tune of

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<v Speaker 3>twelve confidence points. So I'm not feeling uber confident here,

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<v Speaker 3>but but I'm going to ride Benny Sneill one more time.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's go at Kentucky Wildcats twelve confidence points.

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<v Speaker 2>Have fun with that defense, have fun rooting for that

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<v Speaker 2>which was a disaster the second half a year, giving

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<v Speaker 2>up about forty points a game. Yeah, Kentucky beats Southern Miss,

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<v Speaker 2>they beat missoo early on. They lose to Florida, which

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<v Speaker 2>not a good year to lose to Florida. This is

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<v Speaker 2>not anything that you can be okay with. They lose

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<v Speaker 2>three of Florida and the season. The offense pretty decent.

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<v Speaker 2>You mentioned Benny Snell. They were fishing enough with Stephen

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<v Speaker 2>Johnson through the air. Northwestern really didn't. I mean the

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<v Speaker 2>Duke loss wasn't great. Their bottom half of college football,

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<v Speaker 2>but some pretty decent wins in Iowa, Michigan State, and Purdue.

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<v Speaker 2>Justin Jackson now a record setting workhorse for Northwestern. Clayton

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<v Speaker 2>Thorson a little sloppier than I think people are expecting,

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<v Speaker 2>didn't do too much downfield. I think Northwestern is solid

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<v Speaker 2>enough to win this game. I'm going Northwestern. And if

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<v Speaker 2>you were going to Nashville, if you've not spent a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of time in Nashville, I have not spent enough time,

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<v Speaker 2>nearly enough time in Nashville as I should be spending.

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<v Speaker 2>Princess Hot Chicken, go to the original. If you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>get hot Chicken, you are going you should be going

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<v Speaker 2>to Princes. And if you order the Hot Variety tie,

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to struggle in the bathroom the next morning.

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<v Speaker 1>That is just what I'm told will happen. What's our

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<v Speaker 1>gift situation here?

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<v Speaker 2>Our gift situation in the what are we talking? Music City,

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<v Speaker 2>Bawl music City? Gift Sweet, gift Sweet, and we're back

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<v Speaker 2>to fossil Ooh, coming at you timely and finally longer

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<v Speaker 2>marathon show this evening talking all things recruiting and bowls

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<v Speaker 2>and bowl recaps and Fossil watches the Cold War between

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<v Speaker 2>fossil and timely mm hmmm always On December the twenty ninth,

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<v Speaker 2>at five point thirty CBS Sports Network, the.

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<v Speaker 3>Nova Home Loans Arizona Bowl. They play this one in

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<v Speaker 3>Tucson at Arizona Stadium. Utah State and New Mexico State.

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<v Speaker 3>New Mexico State is a four point dog here, but

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going with them?

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<v Speaker 1>Is this something like their first bowl game? Yeah? Did

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<v Speaker 1>I read that correctly? They got bowl eligible the.

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<v Speaker 2>Last game of the year against I want to say

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<v Speaker 2>South Alabama to get to six and six. They have

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<v Speaker 2>not been to a bowl game in at least the

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<v Speaker 2>modern era. I don't believe.

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<v Speaker 1>So hell yeah, New Mexico.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's go to New Mexico State here, sixteen confidence points, dan.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't this also an Aggie Bowl? Isn't Utah State also

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<v Speaker 1>the Aggies? We've got a double aggie situation. Yeah, double

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<v Speaker 1>ag um. Yeah. New Mexico State's okay. This is the

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<v Speaker 1>most okay bowl matchup.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Utah States defense pretty good, offense isn't great? Everything's sort

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<v Speaker 1>of okay. They didn't have a really good win.

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<v Speaker 2>They lose to a pretty down air force this year.

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<v Speaker 2>Tyler Rodgers had a nice year for New Mexico State. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, decent enough offense for those Aggies. Jillian Scott

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<v Speaker 2>was a good receiver. Their past defense was rough New

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<v Speaker 2>Mexico States. I'm I'm gonna go to Mexico State. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna go with what feels right in my heart.

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<v Speaker 3>What is our gift situation here? To close it out?

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<v Speaker 2>Our gift situation at the WHO Nova Home loans Dan, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>Nova Home loans. They're giving away a gift suite, a

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<v Speaker 2>watch unclear what brand?

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<v Speaker 1>Unclear? Uh, an Ogo backpack, and a beanie.

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<v Speaker 2>I do not have a Tucson food recommendation, but I

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<v Speaker 2>assume there's good Mexican food there there. You have not

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<v Speaker 2>too far from Nogalls, Mexico.

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<v Speaker 3>WHO ten Bowl games, seven recaps, a bunch of recruiting news.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I ask you one question before we go? Sure?

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<v Speaker 2>Just because it's been a long marathon show that has

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<v Speaker 2>covered so many different aspects of college football between recaps, previews,

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<v Speaker 2>recruiting coaching news, whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, can you very quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>Explain to me the New York Times story about aliens.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, Dan, just because let's I want to

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<v Speaker 2>I want to do this right. People might be listening

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<v Speaker 2>and weird places.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe they're from a city and going out somewhere rural

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<v Speaker 2>to see family, or they're from somewhere rural and the

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<v Speaker 2>ConA was explain to me what everybody should know about this?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you not read the story?

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<v Speaker 2>I only started reading it and I pocketed it, and

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted I wanted to be surprised by your explanation.

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<v Speaker 3>I am all in on the alien story from the

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<v Speaker 3>New York What is going on? Apparently, not to get

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<v Speaker 3>too deep in the political weeds, but apparently there has

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<v Speaker 3>been this covert investigative operation.

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<v Speaker 1>To study UFOs, to study UFOs.

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<v Speaker 2>This is from the Pentagon. This is who it's through

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<v Speaker 2>that department.

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<v Speaker 3>It's from an official US government outfit of some sort.

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<v Speaker 3>They're studying UFOs. There was a video posted, a video

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<v Speaker 3>submitted through the New York Times from back in two

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<v Speaker 3>thousand and four. I think it was a Navy pilot

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<v Speaker 3>spotted what amounts to a UFO off the San Diego coast.

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<v Speaker 3>I saw interviews with the gentlemen seemed like a straight shooter,

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't drunk, wasn't on drugs, had a good night's sleep

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<v Speaker 3>the night before, and clear as Day described what he

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<v Speaker 3>saw as a forty foot long white tic tac hovering

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<v Speaker 3>above the surface and moving in ways that no one

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<v Speaker 3>had ever seen anything move before. And he's convinced it

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<v Speaker 3>was some sort of unidentified flying object. As they got

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<v Speaker 3>close to it, it disappeared.

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<v Speaker 1>What could it be? What is the prevailing theory of

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<v Speaker 1>smart people? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a smart person, and I'm going to contend that

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<v Speaker 3>it was some sort of UFO.

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<v Speaker 1>We are not alone. I'm very excited.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw the video and it was like a weird

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<v Speaker 2>like it was just going in a line against the wind,

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<v Speaker 2>right right right, It was against the wind, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was started doing like rotating forward.

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<v Speaker 3>You only get part of the story if you read

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<v Speaker 3>the New York Times piece. What you really need to

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<v Speaker 3>do is go on Reddit.

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<v Speaker 1>You need to go on Reddit.

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<v Speaker 3>You need to go on the UFO threads, you need

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<v Speaker 3>to go on the physics threads. I've been there for

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<v Speaker 3>the last couple of days, and I'm telling you, Dan,

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<v Speaker 3>this is a thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>That was the Texas Tech Cal Holiday Bowl that year.

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<v Speaker 2>That was the game that Cal ended up in because

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<v Speaker 2>Mac Brown was campaigning against Cal.

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<v Speaker 1>It was an Aaron Rodgers game. Yeah. Interesting? Interesting? And

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<v Speaker 1>has Mac Brown ever said anything about no a UFO

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<v Speaker 1>off the coast of San Diego?

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<v Speaker 4>Never?

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting? Very interesting. This is a big deal for me

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<v Speaker 1>this week. You know this. You know, I'm into space

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<v Speaker 1>and I wanted was it a Mike Leach game?

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<v Speaker 3>It was Michae Leach could have been flying that thing

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<v Speaker 3>for all we know. Oh my god, it all is

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<v Speaker 3>starting to add up. TI. Thank you to everyone for

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<v Speaker 3>bearing with us through at a minimum eighty minutes of

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<v Speaker 3>college football content. Talked recruiting, talked bowl recaps, talked Lane

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<v Speaker 3>Kiffin's ten year contract, talked about the Cold War between

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<v Speaker 3>Timely and Fossil, and most importantly, we preview ten Bowl games. Dan,

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, oh my god, Ty, do you know who

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<v Speaker 3>the MVP of that game was?

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<v Speaker 1>Who? Sonny Comby?

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<v Speaker 4>What?

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<v Speaker 1>Sonny Comby?

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<v Speaker 2>Current TCU offensive coordinator on the very same episode in

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<v Speaker 2>which you have said that you are breaking up with TCU.

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<v Speaker 2>Also was the starting quarterback for Texas Tech. And the

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<v Speaker 2>the truth is out there, Dan, that's so weird.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so weird.

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<v Speaker 3>We will talk more about this, okay in the postseason.

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<v Speaker 3>So we're going to do at least one other show

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<v Speaker 3>recapping Bowl games, previewing the big ones that lie ahead,

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<v Speaker 3>and then as we get into twenty eighteen, will not

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<v Speaker 3>only recap the playoffs, but we're going to put together

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<v Speaker 3>a big preview show talking about what you can all

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<v Speaker 3>expect on January eighth for the National Championship. Again, we're

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<v Speaker 3>going to be in Atlanta. We're going to be doing

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<v Speaker 3>a live show. Keep your eyes and ears peeled for

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<v Speaker 3>more information on when you can buy that second run

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<v Speaker 3>of tickets if you're interested in coming to the show.

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<v Speaker 1>And also you might want to pay.

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<v Speaker 3>Attention to your social feeds for some other stuff that

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<v Speaker 3>we might have cooking up in the lab right or

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<v Speaker 3>I'm excited, I'm pumped for that guy over there, my

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<v Speaker 3>good friend Dan Rubinstein, and beautiful southern California for myself,

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<v Speaker 3>Tie Hildebrand over here in blustery, in wintery and soon

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<v Speaker 3>to be perhaps white Christmas, e eastern Pennsylvania. Thanks again

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<v Speaker 3>for tuning in. Have a happy holidays wherever you might be.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll catch you all on the flip side in the meantime,

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<v Speaker 3>stay soft taste