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Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal Come that for me. I'm

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Speaker 2: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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Speaker 1: You want to be happy for Dake Edo State?

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Speaker 3: Is that? Whoo whoom?

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Speaker 1: And Dan and Ty.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to the solid verbel boys and girls. My

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Speaker 3: name is Ty hilden Brand jointing me way over there,

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Speaker 3: back where he started from. His name is Dan Rubinstein

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Speaker 3: out there in beautiful southern California.

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Speaker 1: Dan, how are you you know? Ty?

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Speaker 2: Life is good out west. I'll say it again, I've

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Speaker 2: said it before. It's about sixty degrees. Had a great

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Speaker 2: Italian meal last night. Been weirdly staying on East Coast time. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 2: now hold on pause.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how how do you do that?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 2: I be going to sleep around nine pm, be waking

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Speaker 2: nine pm normally, right, So basically I'm just sleeping a

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Speaker 2: little bit more than okay, right, no complaints, Yeah saying

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Speaker 2: I'm right now in my childhood bedroom at my folks

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Speaker 3: What is the weather situation in southern California right now?

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Speaker 1: Not bad?

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Speaker 2: Tie, It's not like tropical but I was out in

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Speaker 1: I was about seventy five degrees. It's about sixty degrees tie,

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Speaker 1: no rain, going to San Francisco for a couple days,

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Speaker 2: And I'm going to Chicago next week, so it's about

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Speaker 3: Welcome back in with Dan and I. We run a

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Speaker 3: little podcast you might have heard of. We talk college football.

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Speaker 3: It is the Solid Verbal. Our schedule from this point forward.

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Speaker 3: a preview show. We'll talk about all sorts of recaps

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Speaker 3: to our Twitter feed, our Facebook page, our Instagram account,

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Speaker 3: our website Solid verbal dot com. We do have a

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Speaker 3: at a minimum, Daniel, we promise to deliver content to

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Speaker 1: Really get it up a good one window before, a

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Speaker 3: We will have more details forthcoming on the live show

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Speaker 3: That would be correct. Yeah, got something cool. Not ready

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Speaker 2: I cannot wait for you to unleash your beast Tye.

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Speaker 2: I cannot, nor can I, Dan. Let's get right into it.

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Speaker 1: I'm never allowed to cut that here. Xavier Thomas.

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Speaker 2: I think, a defensive end as is kJ Henry, a

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Speaker 2: Davos Swiney was incorrect. I don't know that there's anything

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Speaker 2: So we have Ohio State, Georgia, Texas, and Georgia has

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Speaker 1: An incredible story.

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Speaker 2: By the way, Alabama in a shakra is finishing strong

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Speaker 2: Impressive given it it's Lincoln Riley's I don't even know

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Speaker 2: pretty cool accomplishment from Lincoln Riley. Auburn, Clemson, Washington, who

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Speaker 2: I believe brings in two blue chip quarterbacks, so always

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Speaker 2: to Dan Mullen, so you know you have to look admire.

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Speaker 2: I guess the thinking of Emery Jones like, Wow, Urban

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Speaker 2: warmer weather. Let me let's go back to Georgia. We'll

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Speaker 2: get to Emory Jones here. But okay, Georgia I thought

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Speaker 2: in this recruiting class was Justin Fields. Justin Fields is

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Speaker 3: We've also got Dalvin Cook's little brother, James Cook. We've

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Speaker 3: got Jamari Sallier on the line, Cade Mays on the line,

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Speaker 1: What I don't get.

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Speaker 1: What is the allure of going to Georgia.

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Speaker 2: Well, he's from Georgia, so there is the idea of

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Speaker 1: Knowledge of the inner workings of his brain.

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Speaker 2: But if he feels that he felt most at home

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Speaker 2: ago now with Zach Mettenberger and Aaron Murray, and that

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Speaker 2: ultimately worked out for everybody. Aaron Murray had a record

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Speaker 1: He played for the Titans.

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Speaker 2: He played for the Titans. It you know, Aaron Murray's

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Speaker 2: so at a certain point, I mean Washington signed too.

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Speaker 2: I think Texas signed a couple of well regarded quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: So who am I?

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's always the brightest decision. I think

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Speaker 2: Justin Fields had an opportunity at Florida State and given

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Speaker 2: Maybe he was more of a Jimbo guy. I get it,

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Speaker 2: feels like it'll be entertaining. What a ridiculous class for Georgia.

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Speaker 3: It feels like it'll be entertaining and to your point, yeah,

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Speaker 3: two reasons. A, you may have watched Florida play quarterback

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Speaker 1: To run that system.

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Speaker 3: But Emory Jones to me seems like he fits more

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't think this class is complete. They're

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Speaker 2: pretty good defensive class. It's pretty balanced. I know Damian

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Speaker 2: his new staff they're still forging very new and quick

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Speaker 1: So it's sort of it seems fluid.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk about penn State. Penn State's a program obviously

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Speaker 3: sounds like James Franklin's going to give him some time

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Speaker 3: They also add in a big bodied five star wide

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Speaker 3: most interesting nugget I saw all day regarding Penn State

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Speaker 3: the previous four years before coach Franklin, Penn State had

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Speaker 3: four and five star recruits. Say what you want about Franklin,

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Speaker 3: but Franklin's been really good at going out getting new

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Speaker 1: Up in his image.

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Speaker 3: On the recruiting trail, he's been a dogged recruiter and

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Speaker 3: he's done a hell of a job. The numbers speak

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Speaker 2: Wow, that it is incredible, and the best teams went

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Brian in the end of Joe Pass.

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Speaker 2: So certainly, I don't think that's a commentary on what

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Speaker 2: It looks like his name is Sean Clifford, if I'm

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Speaker 3: Some other tidbits that I found interesting for the first

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Speaker 1: He was a safety.

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Speaker 3: But the fact that they're doing it to the first

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Speaker 3: over year. Last year, Texas in a bit of a

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Speaker 3: state of flux after they got rid of Charlie Strong

440
00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,520
Speaker 3: and hired Tom Herman. Now Tom Herman has a full

441
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Speaker 3: recruiting cycle, and it seems like, again a really good

442
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Speaker 3: class for Texas.

443
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Speaker 1: Yes, looks like an excellent class for Texas. And you're right.

444
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 2: And I know there have been sort of stories trickling out,

445
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,760
Speaker 2: at least rumors that you know, perhaps Tom Herman's rubbing

446
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,080
Speaker 2: high school coaches and recruits in Texas the wrong way.

447
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,520
Speaker 2: But if you look at his class and worked outracting

448
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,399
Speaker 2: enough talents all right, Notre.

449
00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:31,439
Speaker 3: Dame shamelessly, I need to talk about Notre Dame a

450
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Speaker 3: defensive focus, Okay, I think so far, Houston, Griffith, Derek

451
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:41,879
Speaker 3: Allen in the defensive backfield, Jack Lamb, Shane Smith, Matthew Bauer,

452
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:46,880
Speaker 3: some other talent along the linebacking Corps, defensive line, offensive line,

453
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,720
Speaker 3: got two big wide out. The big name to watch

454
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,400
Speaker 3: is going to be Phil Jerkovic. He is the dual

455
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,960
Speaker 3: threat guy that we mentioned on the last show. He's

456
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Speaker 3: from Western PA. A big kid, a little bit of

457
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Speaker 3: a wonky delivery, kind of reminds me of Henry from

458
00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:04,119
Speaker 3: rook of the Year, okay, a little bit, but talented guy,

459
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 3: a good runner, a good passer.

460
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Speaker 1: He's enrolling early.

461
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Speaker 3: I don't think you'll see him jump up from number

462
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:16,000
Speaker 3: four on the depth chart to any serious contention with

463
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Speaker 3: Brandon Wimbush.

464
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:18,680
Speaker 1: But he's an.

465
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Speaker 3: Exciting prospect and a name that I would expect you'd

466
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Speaker 3: hear a lot about before long. Certainly, if it's not

467
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Speaker 3: in twenty eighteen, then he starts getting mentions for Time

468
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Speaker 3: twenty nineteen. After Wimbush could be an interesting bet for you.

469
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Speaker 2: So we have Avery Davis, Ian Book Ian book number

470
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:39,360
Speaker 2: docop yep right and Wimbush, you know entrenched. We assume

471
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,159
Speaker 2: as a starter and listen the drive for fifty one

472
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Speaker 2: percent tie.

473
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Speaker 3: It starts today, It starts today. It starts today. Oh okay,

474
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 3: what else is going on? What other nuggets?

475
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Speaker 2: I would assume Alabama's going to keep building. They got

476
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Speaker 2: a big speed rusher from Baltimore to sort of ink today.

477
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,960
Speaker 2: His name is I am going to screw this up,

478
00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 2: but I think it's Aabbi A no, yeah, sure, from Baltimore,

479
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 2: a highly coveted defensive end. It looks like a lot

480
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 2: of defense, especially along the defensive line. Cameron Lattu. I

481
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 2: know a defensive end from out West in Utahs who's

482
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,639
Speaker 2: pretty well regarded. Tommy Brown, an offensive lineman from out West.

483
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:16,399
Speaker 2: I know a lot of teams in the Pac twelve

484
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,959
Speaker 2: wanted him. So it looks like a very solid class.

485
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,440
Speaker 2: And honestly, if his class only finishes like number four,

486
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 2: number five, that's still given the attrition on the coaching

487
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:31,919
Speaker 2: staff for Alabama these past couple of years, Ray Cristobal losing,

488
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 2: Jeremy Pruett, Lane Kiffen, and Steve Starkesian like this is

489
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,919
Speaker 2: the fact that they're able to overhaul and the power

490
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Speaker 2: of Alabama and the power of Nick Saban. It shouldn't

491
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 2: come as a surprise to anybody, but still it's easier

492
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 2: said than done, and they are consistently doing it.

493
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Speaker 3: They're consistently among the top in the country. I don't

494
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,640
Speaker 3: expect that would change anytime soon. But you did talk

495
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Speaker 3: about coaching attrition, and it was a very active coaching

496
00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 3: carousel this season. Do we have any sen for the

497
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 3: newer coaches out there now? They fared at least on

498
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Speaker 3: day one of this new signing period.

499
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Speaker 2: Well, we mentioned Dan Mullen and how things seem pretty

500
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 2: solid in Gainesville Willie Taggart. I would imagine it's sort

501
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 2: of resting in the weeds right now. Their class is

502
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,439
Speaker 2: very low, but I know they're working on those former

503
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 2: Oregon commitments from the state of Florida, and it looks

504
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 2: like at least a couple of them we'll be making

505
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Speaker 2: the switch to Florida state. And I know as of

506
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 2: the time we're recording this thing, there's a talented safety

507
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 2: from southern California.

508
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 1: Who they feel good about. We'll see.

509
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 2: I think his last name is wood Bay. Jalen would

510
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,639
Speaker 2: Bay maybe and he's also looking at USC and Ohio State.

511
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 2: So what I would imagine is Willy Taggart is right

512
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 2: fully so counting on getting a number of visits and

513
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 2: a lot of time to sway some undecided kids in January,

514
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 2: maybe a couple more during this signing period. So I

515
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 2: would imagine it's sort of a distance race right now

516
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 2: for Florida State. Chip Kelly has managed to hold on

517
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 2: to at least a couple of big guys at UCLA.

518
00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,879
Speaker 2: He got a big receiver from State of Oregon to

519
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,119
Speaker 2: down a couple couple days ago, Chase Coda, who's an

520
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:08,119
Speaker 2: Oregon legacy, and they flipped a big USC linebacker, Bo

521
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 2: Calvert linebacker commitment jimbo Fisher at techs A and M.

522
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,879
Speaker 2: It's been sort of an offensive line and receiver focus

523
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 2: right now. And obviously he's still putting together staff, they're

524
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,679
Speaker 2: still working on bowl preparation whatever, So I imagine he

525
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 2: will be making an attempt to at least flip or

526
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 2: get in the ears of a number of kids in

527
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Speaker 2: Texas in January. Mario Christobal a couple of late defensive

528
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 2: line signings today that were not surprises, I don't think,

529
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 2: but they committed and signed today. But he was the

530
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,400
Speaker 2: big thing for Crista Ball and his staff aside from

531
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Speaker 2: keeping this staff basically together other than the assistance that

532
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,639
Speaker 2: Willie Tagger brought over from USF, is that he held

533
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 2: on to a couple of really big fish, including Tyler Shuck,

534
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:50,919
Speaker 2: who is considered to be and that's how you pronounce

535
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 2: a ty sho u g h shuck, like what you

536
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 2: would do to an oyster. Sure, so he's from Arizona

537
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 2: and the top player there. So a top quarterback decide

538
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,400
Speaker 2: to stay with Oregon. That was a huge need after

539
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,239
Speaker 2: we saw what Oregon did with their backup quarterbacks this

540
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 2: past year. Chad Morris signed perhaps the best name in

541
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Speaker 2: the twenty eighteen class and it's the best player in

542
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 2: this class. Bumper cool, Bumper Bumper. The thumper had inside

543
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 2: linebacker and he has a quarterback in this class, which

544
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 2: always helps to sort of get a kid from day one.

545
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,160
Speaker 2: Jeremy Pruitt couple blue chip defensive lineman up front. Big

546
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 2: dudes has a California quarterback coming in not necessarily a

547
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 2: blue chip, but he has managed.

548
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: To hold on to him. JT.

549
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,400
Speaker 2: Shrout Scott Frost had a late speaking of Tennessee. Blue

550
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,919
Speaker 2: chip quarterback Adrian Martinez, who I actually think is from California,

551
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:39,640
Speaker 2: had committed to Tennessee and maybe.

552
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 1: Cal before that. He's coming to Nebraska.

553
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 2: So Scott Frost gets his blue chip quarterback in a

554
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,360
Speaker 2: solid defensive class and obviously has the assistance coming over

555
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 2: from UCF. So there is not a lot to learn

556
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:51,880
Speaker 2: and sort of about working together and recruiting with them.

557
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 1: Herm Edwards has oh no, don't talk about her not much.

558
00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 3: What is going on at AS So the last time

559
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 3: I think we talked about Herm Edwards and the ASU debacle,

560
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:11,360
Speaker 3: ASU sort of bought in to what seems to be

561
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 3: like a multi level marketing scheme.

562
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 1: Basically that they had cracked the code.

563
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:21,919
Speaker 3: They hacked the matrix on a new athletics model, and

564
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,199
Speaker 3: it seemed as if the bedrock of that model was

565
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 3: bringing in Herm to manage from a higher level, to

566
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 3: retain the coordinators that were with Todd Graham in twenty

567
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 3: seventeen and to sort of plot a forward. Well, when

568
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 3: we last left our heroes, that was the case. Now

569
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 3: both coordinators are essentially gone and it's looking more and

570
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 3: more like a bit of a tire fire out there

571
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 3: in Tempe.

572
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 2: Indeed, and Todd Graham is still coaching Bowl game the

573
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 2: last time I checked, So all sorts of weirdness. No,

574
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 2: it's not a particularly great class. Maybe they finished strong.

575
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 2: Maybe they identify some diamonds in the rough once they

576
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 2: get their coordinator situation in order.

577
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 1: But it was strange herm.

578
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 2: Edwards spending the final contact week I guess, of the

579
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 2: recruiting period before signing day, working at ESPN, not making

580
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 2: in home visits. It was very strange that as soon

581
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 2: as you're hired, especially with this new early signing day,

582
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 2: you should be living on a plane. You should be

583
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 2: living in airports and in living rooms and on rental

584
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 2: car back seats whatever. And her Edwards was just, you know,

585
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:27,959
Speaker 2: talk about the NFL on ESPN.

586
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 3: They out hipstered themselves or something with this decision.

587
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 1: Yeah.

588
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 2: I mean everybody's talking about how we ASU is remodeling

589
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 2: and restructuring to be like an NFL team. They just

590
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 2: didn't tell everybody it was to be the Brown Brown. Wow,

591
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 2: they're Cleveland South on a more positive please something. I

592
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 2: say that just because we admire him from Afar, New

593
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 2: York's one true team Fordham and of course your alma mater,

594
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 2: pen States very own. Joe Morehead a very good he's

595
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 2: He's been able to hold onto a very good wide receipts,

596
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 2: including the number one Juco receiver in the country, Stephen Gidrey,

597
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 2: who at one point was going to go to LSU.

598
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 2: Jalen Maiden, a dual threat quarterback, is going to Mississippi State.

599
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 2: He of course is the younger brother of I want

600
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 2: to say, a former alb or not form, but a

601
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 2: current Alabama corner Jared Maiden. So an intriguing class to

602
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 2: start things out. We'll see hoping for the best for

603
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 2: competitive team for Joe Morehead.

604
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 1: What is it it's.

605
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 2: More cow bell that we're talking more more cow bell,

606
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 2: more cow bell. Yeah, that's right, that's what we're.

607
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 1: Going otherwise around the country. Just in general. Well, any

608
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: thoughts about any of those guys classes.

609
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 3: It's good to see Joemo holding it together at Mississippi State.

610
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 3: He's going to be an interesting guy to follow because

611
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 3: he is so smart with the x's and o's. I

612
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 3: think he'll give some teams, at least one team, one

613
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 3: higher level team in the SEC West some trouble come September.

614
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 2: Yes, Maryland got and this is not a recruit, but

615
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 2: Byron Cowart, the former number one overall Believe player in

616
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 2: the twenty I want to say fifteen class who followed

617
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 2: Will muss Champ from Florida to Auburn for his one

618
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 2: year as a defensive coordinator is now transferring to Maryland's.

619
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 2: So I think he's from Florida, went to Auburn, now

620
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 2: it's transferring to Maryland. And Maryland, by the way, the

621
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 2: Terps for all their top twenty bitten yet.

622
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 3: They have a top twenty class right now, could get higher.

623
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 3: So I saw that I saw in Maryland's. I saw

624
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 3: Virginia Tech as having a really good class. I saw

625
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 3: that Minnesota is kind of on the cusp of having

626
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 3: its first ever top twenty five class now under PJ.

627
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: Fleck.

628
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 3: So some interesting names and teams to follow as we

629
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 3: again plot ahead here. It is the early signing period.

630
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 3: Now there is more recruiting. There will be more announcements,

631
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 3: certainly when we roll around to February in twenty eighteen,

632
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 3: but for now, I think that's a pretty good breakdown

633
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 3: of what's going on around college football.

634
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean USC is sort of lurking on the

635
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 2: outside there around thirty, but I imagine they're going to

636
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 2: have a pretty big jump as they closed more and more,

637
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 2: and certainly they're going to get them later on in

638
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 2: today and tomorrow, in the following day and in February.

639
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 2: So I anticipate them say they will close strong. Excuse me,

640
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 2: and just quickly a note about we said the term

641
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 2: blue chip and top kid and all these things a lot,

642
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 2: and I know a lot of people are quick to

643
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 2: say things like the star rankings don't matter. Look at

644
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 2: this team and this specific player who is a two

645
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 2: star and a three star like that. That's fine. There

646
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 2: are exceptions. But because we've gotten better and better about

647
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 2: seeing more film and you know, there are more more

648
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 2: eyes on film because of YouTube and Huddle and all

649
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 2: these things, that the star rankings have never actually been

650
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 2: more I would say, more accurate and definitely more thorough.

651
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 2: And you know our pal button. There's a business around it. Now,

652
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 2: sure you know there is a business, and we're follow

653
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 2: the money, right, follow the money. There's more being poured

654
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 2: into evaluating these kids, and I think as a whole,

655
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Speaker 2: and we've talked to Brandon Hoffman, we talked to Bud Elliott.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna put out probably in February, are much awaited

657
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Speaker 2: show on how recruiting works, And in that show we

658
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 2: talk pretty extensively about why recruiting rankings have gotten much

659
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Speaker 2: more accurate over the last fifteen.

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Speaker 1: To twenty years.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, a lot of it is because of the

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Speaker 3: resource and there's just so much there's such an infrastructure

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Speaker 3: around rating these kids that it doesn't matter per se,

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Speaker 3: but it's definitely a pretty accurate indication of how someone's

665
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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there's more camps, there's seven on seven, there's

667
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Speaker 2: the big you know, the Nike opening out in Portland,

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Speaker 2: where you get to see a top offensive lineman from say,

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670
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Speaker 2: things because of level of competition at a certain place,

671
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Speaker 2: you wouldn't necessarily always get to see and quickly tie

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Speaker 2: blue chips. So four and five star kids are almost

673
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Speaker 2: one thousand percent more likely to be drafted in the

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Speaker 2: first round than non blue chips.

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Speaker 1: So that's why starts. It's definitely that is more likely.

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Speaker 2: Five stars are about thirty three times as likely to

677
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Speaker 2: be all Americans as two stars are, and there are

678
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Speaker 2: a lot of two stars, and yet the five stars

679
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Speaker 2: just get those spots, they grab those spots. So and

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Speaker 2: national championship wise, and these are teams, you know, the

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Speaker 2: teams that we've spent the most time on Ohio State, Georgia, Alabama,

682
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Speaker 2: Notre Dame. These are teams that have been in the

683
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Speaker 2: national championship recently, have won national championships recently. And every

684
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Speaker 2: national champion in the ratings era so since, like Rivals

685
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Speaker 2: and Scout in ESPN and twenty four to seven blah

686
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 2: blah blah, have put out rankings on everybody. Every national

687
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,720
Speaker 2: champion has had at least fifty percent of their team

688
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Speaker 2: be a blue chip recruit or above. I guess so

689
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Speaker 2: a four or five star. So it's it's the data

690
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Speaker 2: is pretty clear at this point. I think I think

691
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Speaker 2: the data is very clear. Let's leave it at that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for recruiting again, this is going to be a

693
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Speaker 3: bit of a fluid situation. It's really only day one

694
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Speaker 3: again of this new early signing period. Much intrigue about

695
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Speaker 3: where it leaves the state of recruiting in college football.

696
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Speaker 3: We'll do our best to cover it along the way here,

697
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Speaker 3: perhaps talk about it next week before we get into

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Speaker 3: some of our Bigger Bowl previews. But for now, that

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Speaker 3: seems to be the lay of the land. Dan, Before

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Speaker 3: Before we talk about Lane Kiffen and his colossal fifty

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Speaker 3: Verbal terms and conditions do apply. What we want to

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Speaker 3: Bowl games that have already taken place. We won't waste

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Speaker 3: too much time talking about this, Dan, but as you know, we've.

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Speaker 1: Got a bullpool going on.

755
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:24,720
Speaker 3: We've had what seven games already that have been played.

756
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Speaker 1: We've got one that's going on.

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Speaker 3: I think as we speak and record our podcast this evening,

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Speaker 3: let me run through those very quickly, because we've.

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Speaker 2: Got we want to take like an hour to discuss

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Speaker 3: Here is what transpired so far in bowl season. We

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Speaker 3: had North Carolina A and T twenty one to fourteen

764
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Speaker 3: over Grambling Boise thirty eight to twenty eight over Oregon.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk about the seven turnovers in a minute. Sure,

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Speaker 3: Troy wins by twenty fifty to thirty over North Texas.

767
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Speaker 3: Georgia State gets their first bowlwin over Western Kentucky by

768
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Speaker 3: a twenty seven to seventeen final. Marshall wins thirty one

769
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Speaker 3: to twenty eight in a close one over Colorado State,

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Speaker 3: Middle Tennessee by five over Arkansas State and the Red Wolves.

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Speaker 3: And as I mentioned a few moments ago, Florida Atlantic

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Speaker 3: and Lane Kiffen fifty to three over the akron Zips. Okay,

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Speaker 3: before we talk about Lane's ten year contract, you want.

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Speaker 1: To talk about Cherubundy Tart Cherry's I.

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Speaker 3: Want to talk about seven turnovers in the Las Vegas Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Sure, Okay.

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Speaker 2: So I can't speak in great detail this to this game,

778
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Speaker 2: because that was when Cameron Guy Dave was getting ready,

779
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Speaker 2: and so I was in the room with him and

780
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Speaker 2: his friends, and then the wedding happened, and so I

781
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Speaker 2: was back and forth.

782
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Speaker 1: So this was watched on a TV.

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Speaker 2: Part of the time, on my phone part of the time,

784
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Speaker 2: not at all. Part of the time I can tell

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Speaker 2: you this, Oregon did not look particularly good. Not sound

786
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Speaker 2: like you missed a whole lot, Dan, No, I missed

787
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Speaker 2: Brett Rippen completing a lot of passes and a couple picks.

788
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Speaker 2: Oregon did a pretty good job against the run. Justin

789
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Speaker 2: Herbert looked just flat, just did not look I mean,

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Speaker 2: this was a lot of the Oregon offense. Royce Freeman

791
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 2: was there but didn't play, which was a little bit strange.

792
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 2: And Oregon just they couldn't run it at all. They

793
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Speaker 2: kept going three and out. I'm not going to ask

794
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 2: you to play the music because it hurts me so

795
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Speaker 2: much about, you know, the drive performances of Oregon. But

796
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Speaker 2: if you look at the chart, I'm seeing punt punt, fumble, fumble, punt, interception, reception, fumble, punt,

797
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Speaker 2: punt punt to start out their first nine or ten drives.

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Speaker 2: So it maybe it was a literal hangover for Oregon.

799
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Speaker 2: Maybe it was getting used tomorrow Christobal, But the fact

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Speaker 2: of the matter remains from Justin Herbert on down, this

801
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Speaker 2: was was a pretty ugly performance.

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Speaker 3: Though.

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Speaker 2: I will say, Ty, you say Oregon lost by ten,

804
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Speaker 2: but I see Oregon's offense and Oregon's defense all knotted

805
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Speaker 2: up at fourteen because Oregon's offense only scored fourteen two

806
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Speaker 2: quick defensive touchdowns before halftime or else this game would

807
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 2: have been superbly ugly for the Ducks. So great win

808
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 2: from Boise State. Brett Reppin was really good. The defense

809
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 2: they kept showing Boise's middle linebacker it seemed like a

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Speaker 2: thousand times and you know rightfully so he was very good.

811
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Speaker 2: But good win for Boise to finish out the year

812
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Speaker 2: winning their conference and beating a major team.

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Speaker 3: And on the Florida Atlantic front, I mentioned Lane Kiffin

814
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Speaker 3: now has a ten year contract with FA. We don't

815
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Speaker 3: know what his buyout is yet, but what it amounts

816
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Speaker 3: to is basically, FA you will take him as coach

817
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 3: for as long as he wants to stay in Boca,

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Speaker 3: and that's fine.

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Speaker 1: Under bucks yeah, undred bucks. I mean, look, this was

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Speaker 1: a pretty good year for Florida Atlantic. Yeh.

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Speaker 3: They obviously win the bowl game, finished with what eleven

822
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:48,240
Speaker 3: wins something crazy. This was a good year for Lane Kiffin.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if and when he'll move on. At

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Speaker 3: some point he probably will. A ten year contract that

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00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 3: keeps him there through twenty twenty seven is certainly a

826
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Speaker 3: bit of a leap of faith.

827
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Speaker 1: However, when you're FAU.

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Speaker 3: You gotta try stuff, and I admire it. He did

829
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Speaker 3: a good job this season. In the bowl game went

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Speaker 3: forward a bunch on fourth down, was trying to I

831
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Speaker 3: guess get back at what was it the ad for Akron,

832
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Speaker 3: whom Lane claimed had some trash talk for the Owls, Owls,

833
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Speaker 3: Owls fifty to three was your final score?

834
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they finished the season winning what ten straight games

835
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Speaker 1: after losing a cup. I mean to you know, Navy

836
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,720
Speaker 1: in Wisconsin and the Buffalo loss is sort of inexcusable.

837
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: But yeah, hell of a year for FAU.

838
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Speaker 2: And at some point some team, be it at a

839
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Speaker 2: bigger group of five place or a power five place,

840
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 2: will know perhaps the Lane Kiffin is not healthy for them, but.

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Speaker 1: They just have that craving tie.

842
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:48,399
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Lane Kiffin will end up somewhere all right.

844
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Speaker 4: On that note again, the week at long last, we

845
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Speaker 4: get to our bowl previews, Dan, Yeah, we've got one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight,

846
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 4: nine to ten games to discuss here this evening.

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Speaker 3: Hope everyone's doing well in their bowl pool. Perhaps on

848
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Speaker 3: our next show we'll give everyone an update as to

849
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Speaker 3: where the standings are in our confidence pool for.

850
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Speaker 1: Now, though.

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Speaker 3: Let's start with the Foster Farms Bowl. They played this

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Speaker 3: one in Levi's Stadium in Santa Clara, California. Is played

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00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 3: on December twenty seventh at eight thirty pm on Fox.

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Speaker 1: It is a close matchup.

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Speaker 3: And I say close because the Arizona Wildcats are only

856
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 3: about a field goal favorite over the perdu A boiler Makers. Daniel,

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Speaker 3: what is our gift situation for the Foster Farms Bowl time?

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Speaker 2: I'm glad you asked, so perdue players Arizona players be

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Speaker 2: walking away with a fossil Watch solid Yeah, Sony XB

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Speaker 2: nine fifty and one on extra based noise canceling headphones.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's a mouthful.

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Speaker 2: I think that's a great gift. I would love to

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Speaker 2: have that, especially big Bluetooth here, big Bluetooth year if

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Speaker 2: you're a Purdue player got a long flight on back

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Speaker 2: to Indiana.

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Speaker 1: Sony headphone sound like a good thing to.

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Speaker 2: Have a timbuckto backpack, ty, I have a timbucktoo, messenger

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Speaker 1: It's a good bag. I gotta tell you. Good bag. Coin.

870
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 2: So there's that a coin coin coin it just says

871
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 2: the word coin, not bit, just a regular coin, regular

872
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 2: ass coin. And this game is it's Santa Clair, right,

873
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 2: It's not San Francisco Levi's State By Stadium, which is

874
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 2: a bit of a bummer. I'd much rather played at

875
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 2: and T good garlic fries and a twenty five dollars

876
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 2: Apple iTunes gift card. So okay, I'm thinking this isn't

877
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 2: like the B plus A minus rank not bad.

878
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 3: It's not bad at all. This is a potentially fun game.

879
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,879
Speaker 3: Everyone knows about Khalil Tait. He's gonna have a hard

880
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:02,399
Speaker 3: time running in this game if he brings his arm.

881
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 3: The arm could be a problem for Purdue. Purdue has

882
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:10,240
Speaker 3: not been great against the pass, but perdue very quietly

883
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 3: a top thirty defense sort of been my pet team

884
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:18,320
Speaker 3: all year. They've not disappointed me, unlike Notre Dame. I

885
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 3: didn't really have any expectations for Purdue right, and therefore

886
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 3: I've never been disappointed by them the entire year through.

887
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:26,240
Speaker 1: So I'm inclined to go Purdue.

888
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 3: Here plus the points, let's take him outright to the

889
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:31,320
Speaker 3: tune of twenty confidence points.

890
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 1: Whooa Tyler, I dig it?

891
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, Arizona, they had the big win against Wazoo, but

892
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:40,439
Speaker 2: aside from that, there was nothing that big. The loss

893
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 2: to ASU in the Territorial Cup was not great. You

894
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 2: mentioned Khalil Tate. The rest of the backfield's wonderful. The

895
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 2: defense is pretty bad, but they do a good job

896
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 2: keeping bigger passes in front. But that's not how perdue wins.

897
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,959
Speaker 2: You know, Purdue had, you know, losing to Rutgers in Nebraska.

898
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 2: Not a great way to sort of back half of

899
00:45:57,760 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 2: the season. You know, they had good wins against Ohio,

900
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 2: do in Iowa, in Indiana early on. But yeah, you're right,

901
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 2: that defense is great, especially against the run, just completely

902
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 2: lights out, and they did. They ran pretty well, so

903
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,720
Speaker 2: I with the ability to run and stop the run,

904
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 2: I think Purdue is in a good position. I like

905
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 2: the Boilers here, not as confident because I think Khalil

906
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 2: Tate can bust something or six. So I'm gonna say

907
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,479
Speaker 2: Purdue with about a thirteen to fourteen confidence level.

908
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 3: I'm feeling confident in Purdue in their defense and in

909
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 3: my boy Elijah Sindelar Cindela. I'm going Purdue here. I

910
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 3: think the sindelarity happens in this game. It's Cinularity. Yeah,

911
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 3: thank you. Let's go Purdue outright. We agree, we let's go.

912
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 2: To the Academy Sports and Outdoors Texas Bowl.

913
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 3: That's a weird sponsor, Dan.

914
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't sound like they probably had to pay

915
00:46:58,200 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 2: a lot.

916
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:03,760
Speaker 3: Academy Sports and Outdoors Texas Bowl in the nurg Energy

917
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:07,879
Speaker 3: Stadium in Houston. Also on December twenty seventh, this one

918
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 3: at nine pm on ESPN. We've got the Misura Tigers

919
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:17,919
Speaker 3: a three point favorite over the Texas Longhorns.

920
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 1: Dan, what's the gift situation here? Please? I had to

921
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 1: learn what Academy Sports was.

922
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,800
Speaker 2: It's sort of like somewhere between a Dick's Sporting Goods

923
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 2: and a Cabella's Sporting Goods hunting stuff kind of thing

924
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 2: like that.

925
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 1: There's a gift.

926
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 2: Suite Academy Sports, an outdoors gift card which seems pretty good,

927
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:38,280
Speaker 2: seems relevant, Adidas Duffel bag and a belt buckle.

928
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 3: They're doing the Texas thing, aren't they?

929
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 1: The I thing?

930
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 2: If it's just like the buckle is some sort of

931
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 2: like the Texas Star or something like that, that's pretty good.

932
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 2: If it's an Academy Sports logo, nobody's gonna wear that.

933
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 3: Where would you wear a Texas belt buckle right now

934
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 3: in your everyday life?

935
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 1: Would you wear that to work?

936
00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 2: If it were like a star or like some sort

937
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 2: of horns, some sort of cowboy type thing, you would

938
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 2: wear that with your cowboy boots to work. I probably

939
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 2: would not. Maybe I would wear it to something like

940
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 2: the Piesmen as just sort of a goof. But I

941
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 2: don't see myself wearing I think a belt buckle would

942
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,399
Speaker 2: overwhelm my pretty weak waist, so.

943
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 3: I would agree with that. Yeah, mind as well. So Dan, Look,

944
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 3: this game is in Texas, which means it's a virtual

945
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 3: home game. It's called the Texas Bowl for crying out loud,

946
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 3: so at least that I think favors the Longhorns. But

947
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 3: while nobody was paying attention, Missouri was ripping off six

948
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,879
Speaker 3: in a row. They close out the year. They put

949
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 3: an offense together forty three touchdowns for Drew Locke at quarterback,

950
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 3: a good rushing attack with ish witter Jamon Moore as

951
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 3: the senior leader on an otherwise young wide receiving corps.

952
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 1: There was a lot to like there.

953
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 3: However, if the boys in the truck could could just

954
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 3: lay down that bed of classical music for.

955
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 1: Me, yeah. Oh wow, Dan.

956
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 3: Here's the S and P rank of each of the

957
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 3: teams that Missouri beat this season.

958
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm excited.

959
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 3: Not ranked ninety eight one, nineteen eighty seven.

960
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 1: One oh seven, eighty one, ninety two.

961
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 3: Not the toughest of competition there in their seven victories

962
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 3: that I.

963
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 1: Just describe and not their fault, not their fault. Necessarily,

964
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 1: they beat who was in front of them in the

965
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 1: second half of the year. But you're right, Vanderbilt was

966
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:44,879
Speaker 1: their signature wave.

967
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 3: They played three teams inside the top forty, and they

968
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:52,399
Speaker 3: got mulled by all of them. I am absolutely going

969
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 3: to take Texas in this football games home game. I

970
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 3: don't feel superbly confident about it, but quite honestly, I

971
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 3: backed myself into a corner with some of my other

972
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,359
Speaker 3: confidence picks. So we're gonna go Texas. We're gonna stand

973
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 3: by them outright, and we're just gonna go with twenty

974
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 3: one confidence points on it.

975
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:15,760
Speaker 2: I just agree, mostly because Texas's big win was Iowa

976
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:19,320
Speaker 2: State with Jacob park by not a lot, West Virginia

977
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 2: with mostly no Will Greer, Kansas State.

978
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 1: I don't.

979
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 2: I don't love Texas. They finished the season losing to

980
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 2: Texas Tech. Relative to their talents, that offense was kind

981
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 2: of a nightmare. I don't know who's starting at quarterback

982
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 2: in this game. The defense was terrific, particularly against the run.

983
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 2: Their past defense was good, but really they were led

984
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 2: by their rush defense. Missouri is gonna throw the ball

985
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:46,359
Speaker 2: around a ton and I listen, their past d is

986
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:49,439
Speaker 2: not bad. Missouri's their rush. They could not stop the run.

987
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 2: Texas couldn't run the ball. That sort of cancels everything out.

988
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:55,400
Speaker 2: So probably me, it's a definite problem. I think I

989
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 2: like Drew Locke. I think I like the Misszuo momentum,

990
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,839
Speaker 2: the mizentum. So I think I'm gonna go Miszoo here.

991
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 2: Not with a lot of confidence picks, but upper teens,

992
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 2: maybe seventeen eighteen points.

993
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 1: I'm going to MISSOI we disagree. Let's move on. Let's

994
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:09,399
Speaker 1: talk about the Military Bowl. Up.

995
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 2: Got one thing because this is a podcast for service.

996
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 2: If you are going to this game, if you're going

997
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 2: to be in Houston, Houston's an outstanding food city, you

998
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 2: should eat everything you can possibly eat. My recommendation maybe

999
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,839
Speaker 2: the best sit down Mexican meal I've ever had. Hugos

1000
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:27,399
Speaker 2: Hugo go to Hugos, So friggin' great.

1001
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 3: Let's move on to the Military Bowl presented by Northrop.

1002
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 3: Is it grummin or Grumman? I always get the rumming, grumming.

1003
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 3: It's a second em in there, huh. They play it

1004
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 3: at Memorial Stadium in Annapolis. They play it on December

1005
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:46,240
Speaker 3: twenty eighth at one point thirty in the PM Eastern

1006
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 3: standard Eastern daylight time, whatever it is on ESPN Standard.

1007
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 1: I believe we're in right now.

1008
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:55,280
Speaker 3: We've got Virginia about a one one and a half

1009
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:59,320
Speaker 3: point favorite over the Navy midshipmen, who are again playing

1010
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 3: a home game. The numbers dan They say that this

1011
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:05,800
Speaker 3: one is just about dead even I guess it favors

1012
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:09,399
Speaker 3: Navy that they're playing on their home turf. Does the

1013
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:12,360
Speaker 3: gift situation give us any kind of lean here?

1014
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 2: So we have a Rockham socks package and under armour

1015
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 2: beanie and backpack under armour of course, based in Maryland,

1016
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,800
Speaker 2: so that sort of makes sense, and I imagine it

1017
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 2: will be cold, so that at least seems thoughtful.

1018
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:30,320
Speaker 1: But that's all I have listed.

1019
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 3: So no Lean from the gifts, huh.

1020
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 1: No real lean from the gifts now, not that I

1021
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 1: can see.

1022
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 3: Virginia played Georgia Tech earlier in the year, back at

1023
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 3: the beginning of November. They won that game forty to

1024
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 3: thirty six over the Yellow Jackets. At a minimum, we

1025
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 3: know that they can handle a marginally better version of

1026
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 3: the Navy offense. And I think when you consider the

1027
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 3: fact that the Navy defense is the sided garbage, Wow,

1028
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go Virginia here, I'm gonna go Virginia. I'm

1029
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 3: gonna go out right, I'm gonna go to the tune

1030
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 3: of twenty two confidence points.

1031
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:14,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's certainly a choice. I think I'm going to disagree. So, yes,

1032
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 2: Navy did lose to Army. Navy did finish the season what,

1033
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:24,280
Speaker 2: losing five of six. Yeah, as far as I can tell,

1034
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 2: I think Virginia also ended the season lose.

1035
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:30,879
Speaker 1: Did they also lose five of six to finish the year?

1036
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 2: They got shut out to end the year, They did

1037
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 2: get shut out by Virginia Tech.

1038
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 1: They got walloped ten.

1039
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 3: Nothing.

1040
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:42,320
Speaker 2: To me, these teams seem relatively even. I think Virginia

1041
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 2: has the advantage with Kurt Bankert throwing against a extraordinarily

1042
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 2: bad pass defense from Navy. But Navy was pretty good

1043
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 2: against the run. Virginia can't really run it, so who

1044
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 2: knows what that actually means. But I think the best

1045
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 2: thing in this game is probably still to me, even

1046
00:53:58,360 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 2: seeing the first two and a half quarters of kur

1047
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 2: Bankert versus versus Miami, which was certainly impressive, is zach Aby.

1048
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 2: He's a machine. I like him on the grounds. I

1049
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 2: like the fact that it's a home game. I don't

1050
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 2: fully trust Virginia's defense. They gave up a lot of

1051
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 2: big runs this year, so I'm gonna go with Navy.

1052
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:16,360
Speaker 2: I'm going Navy at home.

1053
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 1: Interesting. Interesting, Yeah, So in twenty twenty two, somewhere in there.

1054
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 3: The Camping World Bowl is up next. It's also on

1055
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:29,280
Speaker 3: December the twenty eighth, This one at five point fifteen.

1056
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 3: They played in Camping World Stadium in Orlando, Florida. It's

1057
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 3: on ESPN if you want to watch. It's Oklahoma State

1058
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 3: a four and a half point favorite over Virginia tech Den.

1059
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 3: What kind of gifts do they give from Camping World.

1060
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 3: I would think like a lot of portable canteens and tents,

1061
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 3: things of that.

1062
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:57,880
Speaker 2: Like I'm seeing a timely watch company watch. Fine, okay,

1063
00:54:58,040 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 2: you can use that when you go camp can you

1064
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 2: start a fire with that. Yeah, I guess you could

1065
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:06,360
Speaker 2: reflect sunlight off the face if.

1066
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:08,399
Speaker 1: You really knew what you were doing right up?

1067
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 2: Sure, and four hundred damn dollars to Best Buy. Wow,

1068
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 2: I'll take that. I will happily take that. See now,

1069
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 2: Camping World is a place. It's a retailer, right, I

1070
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:24,919
Speaker 2: think why it sounds right? Why does Camping World give

1071
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 2: a four hundred dollars gift card out to a place

1072
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 2: other than Camping World?

1073
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 1: It's a good question.

1074
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,880
Speaker 2: You got to find some thing to entertain yourself with

1075
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:39,799
Speaker 2: while you're camping. So maybe you buy some I don't know,

1076
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 2: a bluetooth speaker to listen out nature. Maybe you buy

1077
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:44,880
Speaker 2: yourself some CDs.

1078
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 1: Do CDs still exist? I have no ight. Maybe they could.

1079
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 2: You could buy a lot of things. I don't know,

1080
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 2: washing machine.

1081
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1082
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 3: Four hundred dollars isn't bad, though, the Best Buy out.

1083
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:59,400
Speaker 1: I'd rather have. I'd rather have Best Buy. I'm not

1084
00:55:59,480 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 1: questioning that.

1085
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:03,399
Speaker 3: I am legit interested in this football game because there

1086
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:08,360
Speaker 3: is definitely a strength on strength component in Oklahoma State's

1087
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:12,880
Speaker 3: offense against a really good, really legit Virginia Tech defense.

1088
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 3: What troubles me though, is when you look at Virginia

1089
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 3: Tech's offense, not any team out there can beat Pitt

1090
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 3: by only six Not only team out there can beat

1091
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:27,399
Speaker 3: Virginia by a ten to zero margin to close out

1092
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 3: the year, rivalry or not. I don't know how many

1093
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 3: points they can score on Oklahoma State because there's a

1094
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:36,800
Speaker 3: better chance than not that Oklahoma State is going to

1095
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:40,359
Speaker 3: score at least what twenty eight. I don't care how

1096
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 3: good the Tech defense is. How many points can Virginia

1097
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:48,799
Speaker 3: Tech score on offense because they've been somewhat lousy all year.

1098
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:51,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, and now no Cam Phillips. They're a leading receiver.

1099
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 2: He is out injured, so not playing in this game,

1100
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 2: not having the big weapon for Josh X, and especially

1101
00:56:57,080 --> 00:57:00,799
Speaker 2: when Virginia Tech could really run the ball with much consistency,

1102
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 2: that's hurtful. Tie, that is hurtful. We saw Oklahoma States

1103
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 2: score points against pretty much the best teams on their

1104
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 2: schedule other than you know, that weird Texas overtime game

1105
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:13,879
Speaker 2: in which they won thirteen to ten. But other than that,

1106
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 2: if they did one thing well was score.

1107
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 1: It was moved.

1108
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 2: The ball got a little ugly at times, and games

1109
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 2: like West Virginia, but they're able to turn it on late.

1110
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 2: I listen, the strength on the strength thing is very real.

1111
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 2: And I don't know if Oklahoma State had any one

1112
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 2: big signature win Iowa State late, Texas Tech late, I

1113
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 2: don't know, but they sort of go as their running

1114
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 2: backs go. Justice Hill had a mostly very good year.

1115
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 2: You know, passing game was just absurd, and Virginia Tech's defense,

1116
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 2: especially against the run, was great, which makes me think

1117
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 2: Virginia Tech has a chance. But ultimately you're right, I

1118
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 2: don't know how they consistently moved the ball. They generated

1119
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 2: some big plays, but you know, to just go drive

1120
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 2: to drive, moving the ball down the field, putting themselves

1121
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 2: in position to score. They certainly took a step back

1122
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 2: from where they were in twenty sixteen. So I'm going

1123
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 2: to Oklahoma State just because I don't know if point

1124
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 2: for point Virginia Tech can be there.

1125
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 3: I'm going to go Oklahoma State. I'm going to lay

1126
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 3: the four and a half. I'm going to take them

1127
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 3: out right to the tune of thirty five confidence points.

1128
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:18,920
Speaker 1: I was about twenty eight, twenty nine.

1129
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel pretty good about this one. Okay, let's

1130
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 3: move on to another game. On December of the twenty eighth,

1131
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 3: at nine pm on ESPN YEP, between.

1132
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 1: TCU and Stanford.

1133
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 3: TCU a two and a half point favorite in the

1134
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 3: Valero Alamo Bowl. They played in the Alamo Dome in

1135
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 3: San Antonio, Texas. Dan, let's finish strong here. Okay, if

1136
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 3: you're me, let's pick against TCU for just one more

1137
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 3: game this season?

1138
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 1: Shall we listen? That's a choice. You can make sure.

1139
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 1: We had a very public breakup back in September.

1140
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 2: I stayed friends with TCU. I don't know if that's awkward,

1141
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 2: but like, we're still cool.

1142
00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:01,959
Speaker 3: It's it's really no way to live having the paparazzi

1143
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 3: set up across the street day in and day out.

1144
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm holding firm. I am gonna go Stanford here.

1145
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 3: I am not at all confident, I am not at

1146
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 3: all interested in watching this football game. So I'm gonna

1147
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 3: go Stanford to the tune of six confidence points. I

1148
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 3: think probably a three point game one way or the other.

1149
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 3: And I just like Bryce Love more than I do

1150
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 3: anything on the TCU side, more than I do Ken Hill,

1151
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 3: more than I do Gary Patterson or the TCU defense.

1152
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 3: Let's just go Stanford. Let's hold our nose and go

1153
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 3: with the cardinal.

1154
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 1: Is he playing Bryce Love? I mean, I honestly don't know.

1155
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 2: Maybe, as far as I can tell, maybe, Yeah, so certainly.

1156
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey didn't play in his final game, but always

1157
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 2: sort of understand running backs, especially one like Bryce Love

1158
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 2: who has NFL potential to succeed given he was the

1159
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:56,920
Speaker 2: clear best home run hitter in college football this season.

1160
00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with TCU here because Stanford is like

1161
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 2: squarely like they're clearly the twenty eighth best team in

1162
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 2: the country or the you know, the twentieth best team whatever.

1163
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:13,560
Speaker 2: They do everything all right, other than Bryce Love. That

1164
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 2: was their offense. Bryce Love was their offense. They don't

1165
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 2: have a bad loss on their schedule. They didn't sort

1166
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 2: of have an off week and lose to a team

1167
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 2: like I don't know, Oregon right were down or Arizona

1168
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 2: State or something like that.

1169
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 3: Stanford's like buying an Amazon Basics branded office chair.

1170
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, like.

1171
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 3: It'll it'll it'll go up and down, but it won't recline.

1172
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 3: It's just the basics, just the bare minimum that you

1173
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 3: need to get by.

1174
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, there are a club Sandwich. Nobody has ever said

1175
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 2: you have to go out of your way and stop

1176
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:50,000
Speaker 2: your roadchip and drive forty five miles off the interstate

1177
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 2: for this club Sandwich, and that's fine. Club Sandwich, always solid,

1178
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 2: always good, always a great option. Stanford, their defense was

1179
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 2: surprisingly pretty average, especially against the run this year, but

1180
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 2: they did have the benefit of the offense just sitting

1181
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 2: on the ball, so this was a well rested defense.

1182
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 2: I assume nothing will change against TCU, who, of course

1183
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 2: speed Oklahoma State. They beat Texas, they lost in supremely

1184
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 2: ugly fashion to Iowa State. They mostly ran the ball

1185
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 2: pretty well with Darius Anderson and Kyle Hicks. Ken Hill

1186
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:20,920
Speaker 2: most certainly took a step forward this year, even though

1187
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 2: he finished the season in kind of disappointing fashion. This

1188
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 2: was still a crazy good defense. Little leaky in the back,

1189
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:29,600
Speaker 2: but that's Stanford's not the team to take advantage. I

1190
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 2: think the best thing in this game, especially considering we

1191
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 2: don't know what to expect out of Bryce Love and

1192
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:37,480
Speaker 2: his usage, is the TCU defense. So I'm rolling with

1193
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 2: the Frogs because I am an Oregon fan, and what

1194
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:43,480
Speaker 2: I have learned is not to bet against TCU in

1195
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 2: San Antonio.

1196
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 1: It's still its tie.

1197
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 3: What's our gift situation here at the Alamobile.

1198
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 2: We have let me load it up real quick, Tie,

1199
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:54,960
Speaker 2: because I was looking up things that made me sad.

1200
01:01:55,240 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 1: An Amazon Echo show. I'm out, what is the show? Show?

1201
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:02,000
Speaker 1: It's it's got the little video monitor.

1202
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 2: H Okay, it'll show you things the one. It's one

1203
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 2: hundred and seventy five dollars Amazon gift card. Okay, that's

1204
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 2: I mean, that's significant. You've get a lot of things

1205
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:17,600
Speaker 2: on Amazon. We got a couple Jody with an eye

1206
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 2: and I had a couple of gifts at our wedding

1207
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:22,960
Speaker 2: that were just like, yeah, here's like a thousand bucks

1208
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:25,200
Speaker 2: to Amazon, and I'll tell you something, Tie.

1209
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:25,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1210
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:29,920
Speaker 2: Nothing made me happier, that'll work right. Nothing made me

1211
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 2: happy living that prime life. Baby fossil watch a mini helmet.

1212
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:37,600
Speaker 2: Some Rockham socks rock them really with a strong presence.

1213
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 3: This year they should send us some. We would wear them.

1214
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 3: Come on, rom I.

1215
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 2: Would one wear the beautiful organ duck socks, those those

1216
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:46,280
Speaker 2: Nitney Lion socks for Penn State.

1217
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:49,120
Speaker 3: I think I'd be the name of Rockham socks earlier.

1218
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 3: But I would we take it back? Yeah, I take

1219
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 3: it back. I'd be willing to give them a try our.

1220
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:59,439
Speaker 1: Feet are cold and a team panoramic photo. Okay, so yeah,

1221
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 1: not bad, not bad? All right?

1222
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:04,360
Speaker 2: No where to eat in San Antonio, I apologize, but yeah,

1223
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:04,920
Speaker 2: that's cool.

1224
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:08,640
Speaker 3: The San Diego County Credit Union Holiday Bowl.

1225
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 2: This is my favorite game, not the matchup. This is

1226
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 2: my favorite bowl game I've attended played.

1227
01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:15,400
Speaker 1: Who would have guessed?

1228
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:20,680
Speaker 3: In San Diego at San Diego County Credit.

1229
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:23,160
Speaker 1: Union Stadium, it's all happening.

1230
01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 3: Who knew that the Credit Union had all this damn money?

1231
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 2: Where does so? Where does the Rose Bowl play? What

1232
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:32,400
Speaker 2: stadium they play at? The Rose Roads in?

1233
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, there just aren't as many syllables. It's the

1234
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 3: San Diego County Credit Union Stadium.

1235
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:41,640
Speaker 2: Do we no longer have the point Setia Bowl to that?

1236
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 2: By the wayside, it's gone, so so the Credit Union

1237
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:46,360
Speaker 2: just moved on up.

1238
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:47,480
Speaker 1: Full disclosure.

1239
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 3: I was all sorts of mixed up when I was

1240
01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:54,680
Speaker 3: going through making my list and I jotted down San

1241
01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:57,960
Speaker 3: Diego County credit Union point.

1242
01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:00,360
Speaker 1: Setia Bowl just out of raw happen.

1243
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then I had to go back and double

1244
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:07,080
Speaker 3: take it and triple take it, and yeah, no more

1245
01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:11,440
Speaker 3: points Setia Bowl. Enter the Holiday Bowl. San Diego County

1246
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:16,640
Speaker 3: Credit Union. I guess upgrading here getting a game this

1247
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 3: year on December of the twenty eighth at nine pm

1248
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 3: onter FS one between the Washington State squad led by

1249
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:30,919
Speaker 3: Mike Leach and Michigan State led by one Mark D'Antonio.

1250
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:34,920
Speaker 3: Wazoo is a three point favorite. As you mentioned, this

1251
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:37,960
Speaker 3: game is usually a lot of fun. I think there

1252
01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:41,200
Speaker 3: are many reasons why this one could be as well.

1253
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:43,760
Speaker 3: Let's start with the gifts. What's our gift situation.

1254
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 2: Gift situation is as follows for the Santigo Crowny Credit

1255
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:54,680
Speaker 2: Union Holiday Bowl gift suite, Fossil Watch, Ogio backpack.

1256
01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:58,919
Speaker 1: Okay, that's it. That's it. That's all I'm saying here.

1257
01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:02,600
Speaker 3: Okay, a low interest rate mortgage or something. If you're

1258
01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:08,040
Speaker 3: interested as well, I've got Wazoo to the tune of

1259
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:12,600
Speaker 3: seven confidence points. I don't have much confidence in this. Originally,

1260
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 3: you might remember, I was all in on Wazoo. Initially,

1261
01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:17,640
Speaker 3: I was all in on them. Now I'm gonna walk

1262
01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 3: it back a little because the more I think about it,

1263
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:23,440
Speaker 3: and you know, I'm right, this is like one hundred

1264
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:25,520
Speaker 3: and ninety percent the kind of game that Michigan State

1265
01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:29,960
Speaker 3: wins in the ugliest possible fashion. Oh absolutely, I'm gonna

1266
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:33,680
Speaker 3: go into the grain of that here. I'm gonna stick

1267
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:37,520
Speaker 3: with Wazoo because they were pretty good this season, especially

1268
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 3: on defense. I don't think this is the Wazoo that

1269
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:43,680
Speaker 3: we've seen in the past where they go up against

1270
01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 3: a good defense and automatically they're shut down. They can

1271
01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 3: also play defense, and Michigan State has struggled offensively. So

1272
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:53,200
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go Wazoo. But I think all told a

1273
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:57,000
Speaker 3: fun game, a good one to watch, as the Holiday

1274
01:05:57,000 --> 01:05:58,680
Speaker 3: Bowl usually is. But let's go Wazoo.

1275
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:02,320
Speaker 2: One of the three or four games that's not on

1276
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:04,919
Speaker 2: the ESPN family of networks, this is a Fox game.

1277
01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:07,920
Speaker 1: So maybe Gus Johnson will be calling this game. I

1278
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:08,200
Speaker 1: don't know.

1279
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:11,520
Speaker 2: I don't know what his basketball responsibilities are. And by

1280
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 2: the way, I just remembered something when we were talking

1281
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 2: about the point Setia Bowl. I believe it was the

1282
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:19,400
Speaker 2: point Setia Bowl between San Diego State and Navy.

1283
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:22,160
Speaker 1: Was that the one with that flooding. I was gonna say,

1284
01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:24,840
Speaker 1: like the morning of like Bowl officials like, ooh, so

1285
01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:27,960
Speaker 1: the field and stadium might be flooded.

1286
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:30,160
Speaker 3: We have four inches of water on the plane, sir.

1287
01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:30,880
Speaker 1: This we are.

1288
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:35,480
Speaker 2: We are up to our shids. So may may the

1289
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:38,400
Speaker 2: point Setia Bowl rest in peace. It's in the same stadium.

1290
01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:40,320
Speaker 2: I don't know if there will be Pacific Life commercials.

1291
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:43,120
Speaker 2: I miss you know, the whale, No whale, Hopefully there are.

1292
01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:47,760
Speaker 2: I have Michigan State here. I think their defense and

1293
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:50,600
Speaker 2: as good as Washington State's defense also clearly is with

1294
01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 2: or without Alex Grinch. Moving forward, we'll see, but he'll

1295
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:56,520
Speaker 2: at least be coaching in this game. I think Michigan

1296
01:06:56,520 --> 01:07:00,600
Speaker 2: State's defense, the fact that Brian Lawurki was pretty accurate,

1297
01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:03,919
Speaker 2: pretty efficient, didn't throw down field a ton, although Ben

1298
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:08,040
Speaker 2: State fans might disagree with the downfield assessment because he

1299
01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:10,040
Speaker 2: hit some big ones in that game. Michigan State, of

1300
01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:12,880
Speaker 2: course beat Michigan, Iowa and Penn State. They didn't have

1301
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:16,040
Speaker 2: a bad loss, even though they had ugly losses like

1302
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:19,160
Speaker 2: to Notre Dame and the triple overtime once in Northwestern

1303
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:23,120
Speaker 2: was pretty heartbreaking and just the murderous rampage that Ohio

1304
01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:25,200
Speaker 2: State went on. They didn't lose to a bad team,

1305
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:28,840
Speaker 2: so that's at least a positive from where they were

1306
01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:30,960
Speaker 2: in twenty sixteen. They couldn't really run, which is a

1307
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:34,720
Speaker 2: little bit surprising. But yeah, the conservative passing game and

1308
01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:37,360
Speaker 2: really good defense mostly worked for Michigan State. Wazoo took

1309
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:40,720
Speaker 2: a step back offensively even with the win over USC

1310
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:43,880
Speaker 2: and a shorthanded Oregon. It was I think a pretty

1311
01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:46,160
Speaker 2: disappointing year all in all for Luke Fox, who got

1312
01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:49,520
Speaker 2: benched a couple of times. But yeah, that defense was

1313
01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:52,439
Speaker 2: flat out awesome this year. Hercules Matava was the best

1314
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:56,880
Speaker 2: defensive player in the Pac twelve. So I'm a little

1315
01:07:56,880 --> 01:08:00,440
Speaker 2: bit more confident in Michigan State, as you said, perhaps

1316
01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 2: winning ugly seventeen sixteen type thing, maybe mid twenties confidence.

1317
01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:09,400
Speaker 3: Right now, we must move quickly through the final four

1318
01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:11,200
Speaker 3: bowls that we have on the slate here.

1319
01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:11,960
Speaker 1: This evening a.

1320
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:14,840
Speaker 3: Little bit of a longer show. Thank you for hanging

1321
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:18,160
Speaker 3: with us. Had a bunch of recruiting stuff to talk about,

1322
01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:21,479
Speaker 3: some other bull results that we needed to recap very quickly.

1323
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:22,880
Speaker 3: It is ultimately free content.

1324
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:24,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, and if you're listening to the show in an

1325
01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:27,360
Speaker 2: airport or on a plane right now, remember to hydrate

1326
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:30,920
Speaker 2: when you're traveling. Stay hydrated. It'll it'll help your mood.

1327
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:33,680
Speaker 2: I know, things are getting rough, stay hydrated, to get

1328
01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:36,160
Speaker 2: some caffeine. Happy to be here with you for the ride.

1329
01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:37,880
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the Belk Bowl.

1330
01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:40,839
Speaker 3: They play it at Bank of America Stadium in Charlotte,

1331
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:44,200
Speaker 3: North Carolina. It's on December the twenty ninth at one

1332
01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:48,519
Speaker 3: pm on ESPM. We've got Wake Forest and the Wolford

1333
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:54,280
Speaker 3: Wagon A three point, pretty much home favorite now Oliver

1334
01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:57,960
Speaker 3: Texas A and M. Keep in mind that A and

1335
01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:01,800
Speaker 3: M lost their coach. They did get Jimbo Fisher. But

1336
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:04,320
Speaker 3: you know how I feel about teams when they lose

1337
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:08,439
Speaker 3: their coach. So I'm naturally inclined to go with Wake

1338
01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:13,680
Speaker 3: Forest here to the tune of twenty five confidence points. Dan,

1339
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:15,160
Speaker 3: you know I've been a big fan of the Wolford

1340
01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:17,880
Speaker 3: Wagon all season. Sure, I don't know if A and

1341
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:21,920
Speaker 3: M cares at all about this game, so my inclination

1342
01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:24,840
Speaker 3: is go Wake I'm coming in heavy with twenty five

1343
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:26,679
Speaker 3: confidence points. What's our gift situation?

1344
01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:34,360
Speaker 2: Shopping trip to the Nordstrom department Belk department stores. I

1345
01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:36,440
Speaker 2: don't even know if there is a Nordstrom in North Carolina.

1346
01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:40,880
Speaker 2: Maybe there is Fossil Watch getting in on the action.

1347
01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:44,200
Speaker 1: That's it. That is it? And once again, ty if

1348
01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:45,960
Speaker 1: I may, if you are going to the Belk Bowl

1349
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:49,320
Speaker 1: and you're gonna be in Charlotte, may I recommend Futo

1350
01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:51,240
Speaker 1: Bhuta Ramen. Yeah.

1351
01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:52,599
Speaker 2: We had some people that went to the a SEC

1352
01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:56,800
Speaker 2: Championship game that reported back and supposedly one of them

1353
01:09:57,240 --> 01:09:58,360
Speaker 2: played our show.

1354
01:09:58,800 --> 01:09:59,840
Speaker 1: Did you see this? I did?

1355
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:03,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, played our show talking about this ramin spot, which

1356
01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:07,160
Speaker 2: we cannot stress enough does not pay us a single sentence, Nope,

1357
01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:10,919
Speaker 2: to talk about how delicious are organic? This is all organic,

1358
01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:13,519
Speaker 2: but we do expect a lot of free roman if

1359
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:15,280
Speaker 2: either one of us, if we ever go to North

1360
01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:19,800
Speaker 2: Carolina gout saying we love this place anyway. Yeah, those

1361
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:22,080
Speaker 2: are the two items, And I think you hit the

1362
01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:24,000
Speaker 2: nail on the head. I'm going wake here. They had

1363
01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:26,320
Speaker 2: nice wins this year. They beat Louisville, they beat NC State,

1364
01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:29,639
Speaker 2: The Wolford wagon was rolling when he was healthy, decent

1365
01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:32,479
Speaker 2: defense despite the loss of Mike Galko. So I'm going

1366
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:34,880
Speaker 2: wake here. I know even with text say and I

1367
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:37,280
Speaker 2: didn't really have a bad loss after that UCLA game

1368
01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:39,920
Speaker 2: to like a bad team on their schedule. Once Nick

1369
01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:42,240
Speaker 2: Starkle came back, it was sort of a different dynamic

1370
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:43,840
Speaker 2: but yeah, I'm going wake here.

1371
01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:48,519
Speaker 3: Moving on, Let's go to the Hyundai Sun Bowl. They

1372
01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:50,960
Speaker 3: play this one in the Sun Bowl Dan they do

1373
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:55,200
Speaker 3: So Texas, December of the twenty nine to three.

1374
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:56,320
Speaker 1: Pm on CBS.

1375
01:10:56,400 --> 01:10:59,720
Speaker 3: We've got North Carolina State the Wolfpack, a six and

1376
01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:04,719
Speaker 3: a half half point favorite over new look, new model,

1377
01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:10,280
Speaker 3: cracking the coaching administrative matrix that is Arizona State.

1378
01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:16,200
Speaker 1: Arizona State lost their.

1379
01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:19,880
Speaker 3: Coach and they are, as we've mentioned time and time again,

1380
01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:23,880
Speaker 3: they're currently embroiled in this very weird, odd coaching transition.

1381
01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:26,880
Speaker 3: None of us has ever seen anything quite like this.

1382
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:30,120
Speaker 3: But you said earlier that Todd Graham's going to coach the.

1383
01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:33,280
Speaker 1: Bull game, right, he is his final game with the Devils.

1384
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:37,800
Speaker 3: So we've got two equal and opposite forces at play here.

1385
01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:43,960
Speaker 3: We've got perhaps players trying to send out Todd Graham

1386
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:46,920
Speaker 3: on a high note, but we've got most of them

1387
01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:49,120
Speaker 3: probably playing in a game they couldn't care less about.

1388
01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:52,639
Speaker 3: North Carolina State, on the other hand, I think wants

1389
01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:55,280
Speaker 3: to close out the year strong. I think they're trying

1390
01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:58,400
Speaker 3: to build for the future, and there's too much uncertainty

1391
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:03,240
Speaker 3: the whole Arizona State thing that I think senior leadership

1392
01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:06,120
Speaker 3: on the part of Ryan Finley and others at North

1393
01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:09,120
Speaker 3: Carolina State will take over. I like them here to

1394
01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:12,639
Speaker 3: the tune of thirty confidence points, Stan See, I was right.

1395
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:13,519
Speaker 1: There with you before.

1396
01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:16,840
Speaker 2: I remembered a certain thing, and that is that I

1397
01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:21,519
Speaker 2: am very bad at picking games. And my guy, I

1398
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:25,479
Speaker 2: think this is a good Costanza game, Kastancy. Remember your

1399
01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:29,040
Speaker 2: Costan's a theory of you know everything that you feel,

1400
01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:32,599
Speaker 2: everything that your gut tells you to follow the exact opposite.

1401
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 3: The opposite must be true if the opposite must be true,

1402
01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:38,800
Speaker 3: Sam and swim up the stream right. Absolutely, to me,

1403
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:41,280
Speaker 3: it's NC State is solid. They're the type of team

1404
01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:44,080
Speaker 3: that beats teams that have cracks. They have an efficient

1405
01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:46,599
Speaker 3: senior quarterback who doesn't screw up a whole lot. They've

1406
01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:48,799
Speaker 3: got good skill talent. They've got a great edge rusher.

1407
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:51,360
Speaker 3: They just sort of have their act together. In Arizona State,

1408
01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:53,919
Speaker 3: they have this lame duck coach who has already been fired.

1409
01:12:54,880 --> 01:12:58,160
Speaker 3: There is something about Arizona State being such a bad

1410
01:12:58,280 --> 01:13:04,400
Speaker 3: pick that I can't stop loving. Wow, I can't stop loving.

1411
01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:09,559
Speaker 3: They have a really good receiver in the kil Harry Right. Yeah,

1412
01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:12,360
Speaker 3: Their defense struggled a bit against the run, but it's

1413
01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:16,040
Speaker 3: not like NC State is this huge running team. I

1414
01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:18,120
Speaker 3: like to Mario Richard, he's a pretty good running back.

1415
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:19,719
Speaker 3: The offense was fine this year.

1416
01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:23,280
Speaker 2: They beat They were like, I don't know, they were

1417
01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:25,800
Speaker 2: maybe three and a half plays from going nine and three.

1418
01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:30,200
Speaker 3: We were really excited about ASU for a moment in

1419
01:13:30,240 --> 01:13:31,040
Speaker 3: time this season.

1420
01:13:31,240 --> 01:13:35,439
Speaker 2: Sure, they beat Oregon, fully healthy Oregon. They beat Washington,

1421
01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:38,559
Speaker 2: they beat Utah, Arizona the territorial. If you had told

1422
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:43,080
Speaker 2: me before the season, Arizona State is beating Oregon, Washington.

1423
01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:43,600
Speaker 1: Utah, Arizona.

1424
01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:47,240
Speaker 2: That feels like such a successful year. And I get

1425
01:13:47,280 --> 01:13:48,120
Speaker 2: the Todd Graham things.

1426
01:13:48,240 --> 01:13:51,000
Speaker 1: Is such a bad pick. I love it. It's tantalizing.

1427
01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:51,879
Speaker 1: Tie wow.

1428
01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:54,439
Speaker 2: I mean that's also the Costanza thing right where yeah,

1429
01:13:54,479 --> 01:13:56,559
Speaker 2: he couldn't help but be in love with a woman

1430
01:13:56,600 --> 01:13:57,719
Speaker 2: who hated his guts.

1431
01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:01,519
Speaker 3: All Right, I'm gonna go n C State here, But

1432
01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:03,559
Speaker 3: I love the cut of your jib on this one, Dan.

1433
01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:08,000
Speaker 1: I really do. I'm going Arizona left. They got a

1434
01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:12,080
Speaker 1: lame du coach. They're burning out of control out there

1435
01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:13,679
Speaker 1: in Tempe, but you're gonna go with them anyway.

1436
01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:16,640
Speaker 2: I'm going with them anyway it may. It makes so

1437
01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:17,439
Speaker 2: little sense.

1438
01:14:17,479 --> 01:14:19,920
Speaker 3: I have to It's one the kind of thing that

1439
01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:23,240
Speaker 3: only happens in bowl season. Is what's our gift situation?

1440
01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:25,280
Speaker 3: By the way, before we move on to the next

1441
01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:25,760
Speaker 3: bowl game.

1442
01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:30,120
Speaker 2: Ah, there is a gift suite. There is Timely Watch Company.

1443
01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:32,799
Speaker 2: I love this sort of very cold war between Timely

1444
01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:36,439
Speaker 2: and Fossil. Yeah, so you get a Timely Watch Company watch,

1445
01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:47,080
Speaker 2: Majestic pro Base, fleece, pullover, pro Base Ogio, Politian Polyton backpack,

1446
01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:49,920
Speaker 2: under armour cap and a coin and just go eat

1447
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:51,679
Speaker 2: Mexican food and nel passo Lovely Town.

1448
01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:53,200
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on.

1449
01:14:53,320 --> 01:14:57,639
Speaker 3: Let's go to the Franklin American Mortgage Music City Bowl,

1450
01:14:58,439 --> 01:15:01,599
Speaker 3: competing only at the San Diego County Credit Union Holiday

1451
01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:04,840
Speaker 3: Bowl for most syllables in a bowl game. They play

1452
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:08,240
Speaker 3: this one in Nissan Stadium in Nashville, Tennessee. Also on

1453
01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:11,719
Speaker 3: December twenty ninth, this one at four thirty pm Eastern

1454
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:16,240
Speaker 3: time on ESPN. We got the Northwestern Wildcats, we got

1455
01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:20,639
Speaker 3: the Kentucky Wildcats, we got the Wildcat Bowl Dan. Yeah,

1456
01:15:20,680 --> 01:15:23,880
Speaker 3: a whole lot of Wildcat and going on here. Northwestern

1457
01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:26,599
Speaker 3: seven and a half point favorite, I am not a

1458
01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:27,599
Speaker 3: Northwestern believer.

1459
01:15:28,680 --> 01:15:30,520
Speaker 1: I've been a big fan of the quiet.

1460
01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:35,000
Speaker 3: Storm motto for their nine and three season, and I

1461
01:15:35,080 --> 01:15:38,120
Speaker 3: realized they won their last seven games. They beat Iowa,

1462
01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:40,760
Speaker 3: they beat Michigan State. By all accounts, it was a

1463
01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:44,400
Speaker 3: pretty good year. Yeah, there's something about Northwestern that I

1464
01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:48,920
Speaker 3: can't buy into. Hook line and sinker. I'm definitely going

1465
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:52,000
Speaker 3: Kentucky plus the seven and a half. I think I'm

1466
01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:55,160
Speaker 3: gonna go the Kentucky Wildcats outright to the tune of

1467
01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:59,040
Speaker 3: twelve confidence points. So I'm not feeling uber confident here,

1468
01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:02,840
Speaker 3: but but I'm going to ride Benny Sneill one more time.

1469
01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:06,240
Speaker 3: Let's go at Kentucky Wildcats twelve confidence points.

1470
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:08,880
Speaker 2: Have fun with that defense, have fun rooting for that

1471
01:16:10,439 --> 01:16:15,240
Speaker 2: which was a disaster the second half a year, giving

1472
01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:18,360
Speaker 2: up about forty points a game. Yeah, Kentucky beats Southern Miss,

1473
01:16:18,439 --> 01:16:20,760
Speaker 2: they beat missoo early on. They lose to Florida, which

1474
01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:22,760
Speaker 2: not a good year to lose to Florida. This is

1475
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:25,280
Speaker 2: not anything that you can be okay with. They lose

1476
01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:27,599
Speaker 2: three of Florida and the season. The offense pretty decent.

1477
01:16:27,640 --> 01:16:29,719
Speaker 2: You mentioned Benny Snell. They were fishing enough with Stephen

1478
01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:32,920
Speaker 2: Johnson through the air. Northwestern really didn't. I mean the

1479
01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:36,439
Speaker 2: Duke loss wasn't great. Their bottom half of college football,

1480
01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:39,400
Speaker 2: but some pretty decent wins in Iowa, Michigan State, and Purdue.

1481
01:16:39,880 --> 01:16:43,120
Speaker 2: Justin Jackson now a record setting workhorse for Northwestern. Clayton

1482
01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:46,040
Speaker 2: Thorson a little sloppier than I think people are expecting,

1483
01:16:46,160 --> 01:16:49,360
Speaker 2: didn't do too much downfield. I think Northwestern is solid

1484
01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:51,800
Speaker 2: enough to win this game. I'm going Northwestern. And if

1485
01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:53,479
Speaker 2: you were going to Nashville, if you've not spent a

1486
01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:55,880
Speaker 2: lot of time in Nashville, I have not spent enough time,

1487
01:16:55,920 --> 01:16:58,240
Speaker 2: nearly enough time in Nashville as I should be spending.

1488
01:16:58,880 --> 01:17:01,679
Speaker 2: Princess Hot Chicken, go to the original. If you're gonna

1489
01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:04,080
Speaker 2: get hot Chicken, you are going you should be going

1490
01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:07,240
Speaker 2: to Princes. And if you order the Hot Variety tie,

1491
01:17:08,360 --> 01:17:10,240
Speaker 2: you're going to struggle in the bathroom the next morning.

1492
01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:13,200
Speaker 1: That is just what I'm told will happen. What's our

1493
01:17:13,200 --> 01:17:14,160
Speaker 1: gift situation here?

1494
01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:18,320
Speaker 2: Our gift situation in the what are we talking? Music City,

1495
01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:21,599
Speaker 2: Bawl music City? Gift Sweet, gift Sweet, and we're back

1496
01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:30,759
Speaker 2: to fossil Ooh, coming at you timely and finally longer

1497
01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:36,080
Speaker 2: marathon show this evening talking all things recruiting and bowls

1498
01:17:36,080 --> 01:17:39,639
Speaker 2: and bowl recaps and Fossil watches the Cold War between

1499
01:17:39,680 --> 01:17:44,400
Speaker 2: fossil and timely mm hmmm always On December the twenty ninth,

1500
01:17:44,439 --> 01:17:47,760
Speaker 2: at five point thirty CBS Sports Network, the.

1501
01:17:47,880 --> 01:17:52,080
Speaker 3: Nova Home Loans Arizona Bowl. They play this one in

1502
01:17:52,120 --> 01:17:58,040
Speaker 3: Tucson at Arizona Stadium. Utah State and New Mexico State.

1503
01:17:58,360 --> 01:18:04,000
Speaker 3: New Mexico State is a four point dog here, but

1504
01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:04,960
Speaker 3: I'm going with them?

1505
01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:08,479
Speaker 1: Is this something like their first bowl game? Yeah? Did

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Speaker 1: I read that correctly? They got bowl eligible the.

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Speaker 2: Last game of the year against I want to say

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01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:14,920
Speaker 2: South Alabama to get to six and six. They have

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01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:17,360
Speaker 2: not been to a bowl game in at least the

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01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:18,519
Speaker 2: modern era. I don't believe.

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Speaker 1: So hell yeah, New Mexico.

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Speaker 3: Let's go to New Mexico State here, sixteen confidence points, dan.

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Speaker 1: Isn't this also an Aggie Bowl? Isn't Utah State also

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01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:30,280
Speaker 1: the Aggies? We've got a double aggie situation. Yeah, double

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01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:38,040
Speaker 1: ag um. Yeah. New Mexico State's okay. This is the

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01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:39,679
Speaker 1: most okay bowl matchup.

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01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:41,240
Speaker 2: You know.

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01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:44,400
Speaker 1: Utah States defense pretty good, offense isn't great? Everything's sort

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01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:45,720
Speaker 1: of okay. They didn't have a really good win.

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01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:48,000
Speaker 2: They lose to a pretty down air force this year.

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01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:52,240
Speaker 2: Tyler Rodgers had a nice year for New Mexico State. Uh,

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01:18:52,360 --> 01:18:55,360
Speaker 2: you know, decent enough offense for those Aggies. Jillian Scott

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01:18:55,400 --> 01:18:59,000
Speaker 2: was a good receiver. Their past defense was rough New

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01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:01,760
Speaker 2: Mexico States. I'm I'm gonna go to Mexico State. I'm

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01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:03,840
Speaker 2: gonna go with what feels right in my heart.

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01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:06,400
Speaker 3: What is our gift situation here? To close it out?

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01:19:06,720 --> 01:19:12,400
Speaker 2: Our gift situation at the WHO Nova Home loans Dan, Yes,

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01:19:12,800 --> 01:19:15,800
Speaker 2: Nova Home loans. They're giving away a gift suite, a

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01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:17,719
Speaker 2: watch unclear what brand?

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01:19:19,360 --> 01:19:23,400
Speaker 1: Unclear? Uh, an Ogo backpack, and a beanie.

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01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:26,960
Speaker 2: I do not have a Tucson food recommendation, but I

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01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:29,880
Speaker 2: assume there's good Mexican food there there. You have not

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01:19:29,920 --> 01:19:31,720
Speaker 2: too far from Nogalls, Mexico.

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01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:38,240
Speaker 3: WHO ten Bowl games, seven recaps, a bunch of recruiting news.

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01:19:38,640 --> 01:19:40,960
Speaker 1: Can I ask you one question before we go? Sure?

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01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:43,360
Speaker 2: Just because it's been a long marathon show that has

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01:19:43,400 --> 01:19:47,559
Speaker 2: covered so many different aspects of college football between recaps, previews,

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01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:49,200
Speaker 2: recruiting coaching news, whatever.

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01:19:49,640 --> 01:19:52,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, can you very quickly.

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01:19:51,680 --> 01:19:54,679
Speaker 2: Explain to me the New York Times story about aliens.

1541
01:19:55,080 --> 01:19:58,040
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Dan, just because let's I want to

1542
01:19:58,160 --> 01:20:00,000
Speaker 2: I want to do this right. People might be listening

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01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:01,320
Speaker 2: and weird places.

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01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:01,519
Speaker 3: You know.

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01:20:01,520 --> 01:20:03,599
Speaker 2: Maybe they're from a city and going out somewhere rural

1546
01:20:03,640 --> 01:20:05,560
Speaker 2: to see family, or they're from somewhere rural and the

1547
01:20:05,640 --> 01:20:09,200
Speaker 2: ConA was explain to me what everybody should know about this?

1548
01:20:09,280 --> 01:20:10,679
Speaker 1: Did you not read the story?

1549
01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:12,880
Speaker 2: I only started reading it and I pocketed it, and

1550
01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:15,760
Speaker 2: I wanted I wanted to be surprised by your explanation.

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01:20:16,080 --> 01:20:17,800
Speaker 3: I am all in on the alien story from the

1552
01:20:17,840 --> 01:20:20,920
Speaker 3: New York What is going on? Apparently, not to get

1553
01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:23,400
Speaker 3: too deep in the political weeds, but apparently there has

1554
01:20:23,479 --> 01:20:27,680
Speaker 3: been this covert investigative operation.

1555
01:20:28,040 --> 01:20:31,200
Speaker 1: To study UFOs, to study UFOs.

1556
01:20:31,280 --> 01:20:33,960
Speaker 2: This is from the Pentagon. This is who it's through

1557
01:20:34,040 --> 01:20:34,800
Speaker 2: that department.

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01:20:35,439 --> 01:20:40,439
Speaker 3: It's from an official US government outfit of some sort.

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01:20:40,479 --> 01:20:45,679
Speaker 3: They're studying UFOs. There was a video posted, a video

1560
01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:49,320
Speaker 3: submitted through the New York Times from back in two

1561
01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:52,719
Speaker 3: thousand and four. I think it was a Navy pilot

1562
01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:57,320
Speaker 3: spotted what amounts to a UFO off the San Diego coast.

1563
01:20:57,840 --> 01:21:01,479
Speaker 3: I saw interviews with the gentlemen seemed like a straight shooter,

1564
01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:04,200
Speaker 3: wasn't drunk, wasn't on drugs, had a good night's sleep

1565
01:21:04,240 --> 01:21:08,000
Speaker 3: the night before, and clear as Day described what he

1566
01:21:08,080 --> 01:21:11,920
Speaker 3: saw as a forty foot long white tic tac hovering

1567
01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:14,439
Speaker 3: above the surface and moving in ways that no one

1568
01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:19,280
Speaker 3: had ever seen anything move before. And he's convinced it

1569
01:21:19,320 --> 01:21:22,559
Speaker 3: was some sort of unidentified flying object. As they got

1570
01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:24,360
Speaker 3: close to it, it disappeared.

1571
01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:28,600
Speaker 1: What could it be? What is the prevailing theory of

1572
01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:30,960
Speaker 1: smart people? I don't know.

1573
01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:32,960
Speaker 3: I'm a smart person, and I'm going to contend that

1574
01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:34,160
Speaker 3: it was some sort of UFO.

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01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:39,240
Speaker 1: We are not alone. I'm very excited.

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01:21:39,240 --> 01:21:40,799
Speaker 2: I saw the video and it was like a weird

1577
01:21:40,880 --> 01:21:43,880
Speaker 2: like it was just going in a line against the wind,

1578
01:21:43,960 --> 01:21:46,360
Speaker 2: right right right, It was against the wind, and it

1579
01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:48,360
Speaker 2: was started doing like rotating forward.

1580
01:21:48,760 --> 01:21:50,880
Speaker 3: You only get part of the story if you read

1581
01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:53,120
Speaker 3: the New York Times piece. What you really need to

1582
01:21:53,160 --> 01:21:54,200
Speaker 3: do is go on Reddit.

1583
01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:56,200
Speaker 1: You need to go on Reddit.

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01:21:56,600 --> 01:21:58,920
Speaker 3: You need to go on the UFO threads, you need

1585
01:21:58,960 --> 01:22:02,439
Speaker 3: to go on the physics threads. I've been there for

1586
01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:05,360
Speaker 3: the last couple of days, and I'm telling you, Dan,

1587
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:06,599
Speaker 3: this is a thing.

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01:22:06,640 --> 01:22:06,880
Speaker 1: Man.

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01:22:07,040 --> 01:22:10,360
Speaker 2: That was the Texas Tech Cal Holiday Bowl that year.

1590
01:22:11,080 --> 01:22:13,360
Speaker 2: That was the game that Cal ended up in because

1591
01:22:13,360 --> 01:22:15,920
Speaker 2: Mac Brown was campaigning against Cal.

1592
01:22:16,680 --> 01:22:21,760
Speaker 1: It was an Aaron Rodgers game. Yeah. Interesting? Interesting? And

1593
01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:25,160
Speaker 1: has Mac Brown ever said anything about no a UFO

1594
01:22:25,280 --> 01:22:26,519
Speaker 1: off the coast of San Diego?

1595
01:22:26,800 --> 01:22:27,080
Speaker 4: Never?

1596
01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:32,240
Speaker 1: Interesting? Very interesting. This is a big deal for me

1597
01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:35,120
Speaker 1: this week. You know this. You know, I'm into space

1598
01:22:36,280 --> 01:22:38,080
Speaker 1: and I wanted was it a Mike Leach game?

1599
01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:41,200
Speaker 3: It was Michae Leach could have been flying that thing

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01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:43,360
Speaker 3: for all we know. Oh my god, it all is

1601
01:22:43,400 --> 01:22:47,080
Speaker 3: starting to add up. TI. Thank you to everyone for

1602
01:22:47,200 --> 01:22:51,080
Speaker 3: bearing with us through at a minimum eighty minutes of

1603
01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:55,800
Speaker 3: college football content. Talked recruiting, talked bowl recaps, talked Lane

1604
01:22:55,880 --> 01:22:59,439
Speaker 3: Kiffin's ten year contract, talked about the Cold War between

1605
01:22:59,479 --> 01:23:03,360
Speaker 3: Timely and Fossil, and most importantly, we preview ten Bowl games. Dan,

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01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:06,559
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh my god, Ty, do you know who

1607
01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:08,000
Speaker 3: the MVP of that game was?

1608
01:23:08,760 --> 01:23:10,839
Speaker 1: Who? Sonny Comby?

1609
01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:11,320
Speaker 4: What?

1610
01:23:12,479 --> 01:23:13,200
Speaker 1: Sonny Comby?

1611
01:23:13,640 --> 01:23:18,080
Speaker 2: Current TCU offensive coordinator on the very same episode in

1612
01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:20,800
Speaker 2: which you have said that you are breaking up with TCU.

1613
01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:24,120
Speaker 2: Also was the starting quarterback for Texas Tech. And the

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01:23:24,120 --> 01:23:27,120
Speaker 2: the truth is out there, Dan, that's so weird.

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01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:28,160
Speaker 1: It's so weird.

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01:23:28,240 --> 01:23:32,800
Speaker 3: We will talk more about this, okay in the postseason.

1617
01:23:34,120 --> 01:23:36,000
Speaker 3: So we're going to do at least one other show

1618
01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:40,120
Speaker 3: recapping Bowl games, previewing the big ones that lie ahead,

1619
01:23:40,160 --> 01:23:42,640
Speaker 3: and then as we get into twenty eighteen, will not

1620
01:23:42,720 --> 01:23:45,080
Speaker 3: only recap the playoffs, but we're going to put together

1621
01:23:45,120 --> 01:23:48,080
Speaker 3: a big preview show talking about what you can all

1622
01:23:48,240 --> 01:23:52,960
Speaker 3: expect on January eighth for the National Championship. Again, we're

1623
01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:54,920
Speaker 3: going to be in Atlanta. We're going to be doing

1624
01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:58,080
Speaker 3: a live show. Keep your eyes and ears peeled for

1625
01:23:58,160 --> 01:24:00,880
Speaker 3: more information on when you can buy that second run

1626
01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:03,280
Speaker 3: of tickets if you're interested in coming to the show.

1627
01:24:04,160 --> 01:24:07,000
Speaker 1: And also you might want to pay.

1628
01:24:06,920 --> 01:24:09,680
Speaker 3: Attention to your social feeds for some other stuff that

1629
01:24:09,720 --> 01:24:11,720
Speaker 3: we might have cooking up in the lab right or

1630
01:24:13,439 --> 01:24:17,960
Speaker 3: I'm excited, I'm pumped for that guy over there, my

1631
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:21,759
Speaker 3: good friend Dan Rubinstein, and beautiful southern California for myself,

1632
01:24:21,800 --> 01:24:27,439
Speaker 3: Tie Hildebrand over here in blustery, in wintery and soon

1633
01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:31,519
Speaker 3: to be perhaps white Christmas, e eastern Pennsylvania. Thanks again

1634
01:24:31,600 --> 01:24:35,280
Speaker 3: for tuning in. Have a happy holidays wherever you might be.

1635
01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:37,879
Speaker 3: We'll catch you all on the flip side in the meantime,

1636
01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:51,480
Speaker 3: stay soft taste