1 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntire. What is up 2 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: straight firefam, It's me Jason McIntyre. 3 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 2: Straight Fire for. 4 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: Monday, October twenty third, Folks, it was a phenomenal weekend 5 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 1: in sports. Holy cow. NFL Sunday was fantastic. Listen. I 6 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: know I say never get too high, never get too low, 7 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: but I'm on a bit of a high. It was 8 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: an awesome week in gambling. I don't know if you 9 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: guys saw I posted a couple of multi team teasers 10 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: I hit in the NFL. The picks were great, three 11 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: and one in the contest, Niners tonight Riding High Jets 12 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: were on a by so I could really lock in 13 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 1: to all the games about. The only blemish is Nickoxa, 14 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: the soccer team I own. I got smashed for nothing. 15 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: Guy got a red card. It was ugly. I was frustrated, 16 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: and we stink. We're last in the entire league. But 17 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: fortunately there is good news on the NFL front. Miami 18 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: Dolphins come back down to earth. The Buffalo Bills suddenly 19 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: look ordinary. One of my summer takes starting to look good. 20 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: If that's some other interesting stuff, I mean, there's a 21 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: lot of places to start. I actually would like to 22 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:16,119 Speaker 1: work in some Caleb Williams stuff. USC. I'm seeing some 23 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 1: real crazy stuff. Guys getting out of pocket now, you 24 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 1: know Caleb Williams. Everybody's riding high. A couple of losses 25 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: people want to bash, and we will get into that 26 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:26,479 Speaker 1: also Kansas City Chiefs. But I'm gonna start with Sunday 27 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: Night Football because if you guys remember, I think the 28 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: first two weeks of this podcast, the first two weeks 29 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 1: of the NFL season, I was like raving about the 30 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens were good, they had some potential, but the 31 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins were the team that really jumped out offensively 32 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: doing They're doing stuff nobody else is doing. The weather's 33 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: warm in September, they're looking fast. Miami Dolphins came out 34 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: of the gate strong. I love what I see. Mike 35 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: McDaniels awesome, and they ran into that roadblock in Buffalo. 36 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: We knew that was coming, and they ran to do 37 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: another one last night in Philadelphia. Temperature a little colder, right, 38 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: temperatures I think a high forties, low fifties outdoors, loud, 39 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: lubricated Philadelphia fan base that's about to celebrate the Phillies hopefully, 40 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: going to the World Series here, maybe facing the Rangers 41 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: Game seven, Rangers Astros. A little MLB plug there. Yes, 42 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: I did watch it, and I saw the Grand Slam, 43 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: and I'm watching Miami Philly, and I had Philly in 44 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 1: the game minus two and a half, minus three, and 45 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 1: I just I watched Miami and folks, the numbers here 46 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: like you can score seventy on Denver and have seven 47 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: hundred yards and oh we torched Carolina, we dropped forty two. 48 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: Step up and play a Super Bowl contender in Buffalo 49 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: and you get smashed. And then you step up and 50 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: play a Super Bowl contender in Philly and you get waxed. 51 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 1: Miami's offense, ladies and gentlemen, twelve first downs, two hundred 52 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:53,519 Speaker 1: and forty four yards of offense, third down money down 53 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: four of eleven. They had one trip to the red zone, 54 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: this juggernaut of an offense. One trip to the red zone. 55 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 1: They got, you know, some troubles on the offensive line. 56 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: I believe they had three guys out on the line. 57 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: Couldn't really run the football. Do they miss eight chan 58 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: certainly the guy's a rookie. Now he's electric, and he 59 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 1: lit up the New York Giants in Denver, whooped the 60 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: damn do who hasn't been lighting those guys up, Although 61 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 1: the Giants have kind of turned the corner defensively, but 62 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins kind of look like a bit of 63 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: a paper tiger. Temperatures only getting colder. And if you 64 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,519 Speaker 1: can't run the football in Philly and you can't really 65 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: run when it matters in a close game against Buffalo, 66 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: you gonna be able to do it in January in Cincinnati, 67 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: in frigid Arrowhead. I just I don't know about Miami anymore. 68 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: I know they're gonna score points, they're great for fantasy, 69 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: and they're probably gonna be in the mix for a 70 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: playoff spot. I will say this, Rob, I looked up 71 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: the schedule for the Miami Dolphins, and they had buy 72 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: many metrics. The toughest schedule in the league. The rest 73 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: of the way, I think it's Bengals and Ravens have 74 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: the toughest. They gotta face New England this week. They're 75 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: gonna be double digit favorites the rematchless ones in South Beach. 76 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: Then they host the Chiefs, then it's the layup against 77 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: the Raiders. They've got to face the Jets two more 78 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: times the Dolphins, Ravens, and Bills. That ending schedule against 79 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: for the elite defenses in the NFL Jets, Cowboys, Ravens, 80 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 1: Bills will be difficult if they're not at nine or 81 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: ten wins. I don't know that they're gonna get They're 82 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: gonna lock in as a playoff spot. This Miami team 83 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: just I mean again, I'm not bashing them because this 84 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: was expected, but we now know the book on Miami. 85 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 1: They can't really stop the run. They got pushed around 86 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage. Jalen Hurts made some great 87 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: plays when it mattered. Now I'll say this, Jalen Hurts 88 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 1: had two colossal screw ups. A fumble in his like 89 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:39,919 Speaker 1: what his own twenty five yard line led to a 90 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: field goal, and then just a horrible pick six. I 91 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 1: know it was deflected, but like bro, read the guy 92 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 1: jumping in your face and I was run back. Other 93 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: than that, Miami they probably don't hit double digits, folks. 94 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 1: I mean, that's how bad and lopside of this game was. 95 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 1: I don't know, Rob, Maybe I'm being too harsh on Miami, 96 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 1: but I see Philadelphia as good and this was expected. 97 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: Philadelphia is gonna have some problems coming up here, and 98 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: we'll see. But I do like this Eagles team a lot. 99 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm not totally out of Miami. I could 100 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: still see them getting to the playoffs and winning a game. 101 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: But I don't see them rob having the ability to 102 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 1: go to a Cincinnati, a Baltimore, a Buffalo in January 103 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 1: when the temperatures are in the twenties and pulling off 104 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 1: the win. I just don't see it. 105 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 2: I will respectfully disagree with you, Okay. I think last 106 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 2: night's game said more about the Philadelphia Eagles than they 107 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 2: did about the Mammi Dolphins. If I'm a Dolphins fan, 108 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 2: the lost to Buffalo a few weeks ago was a 109 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 2: lot hurt more, I think than the lost last night 110 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 2: at Philadelphia, And for two reasons. You brought it up 111 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 2: right off the top. If you're gonna play the Philadelphia 112 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 2: Eagles and that monstrous offensive and defensive lines that they have, 113 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 2: like they're easily the best offensive line defensive line, they're 114 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 2: right up there, maybe top two or three at worst. 115 00:05:58,200 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 2: So if you're gonna go toe to toe with them, 116 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 2: you need to be able to combat those two things. 117 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 2: Being down three offensive linemen particularly three all on the 118 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 2: same side, center, left guard, left tackle did not bode 119 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 2: well for this team. And I know that you know 120 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 2: the Tyreek Hill Jalen Waddle toa like that the show 121 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 2: is what gets all the sizzle. But deep down, this 122 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 2: team allah that Chip Kelly Oregon teams back in the day. 123 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 2: This is a running team. Like they make their bones 124 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 2: in the run game with the play action game mostered 125 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 2: eight chan and you know they're going to work back 126 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 2: in Jeff Wilson Junior here in a few weeks. You know, 127 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 2: you played a little bit last night, but I'm sure 128 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 2: he's going to be a guided monitor. They are built 129 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 2: off the run game, the misdirection, the play action, and 130 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 2: when you can't fire off the ball at all against 131 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 2: that defensive line, it really puts them in a tough 132 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 2: situation because all of those smoking merrors back door, you know, 133 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 2: RPO actions, they just don't work like they normally would. 134 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 2: That's number one, but number two on the flip side. Defensively, 135 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 2: if you're Miami, obviously you don't have the horses up 136 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 2: front to match up with their offensive line, so your 137 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 2: best way to slow down the run game is to 138 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 2: commit a lot of guys to the box and hope 139 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 2: your corners can can hold up against AJ Brown DeVonta Smith. 140 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 2: I think if the Miami Dolphins are healthy, bringing in 141 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 2: Jalen Ramsey and Xavi and Howard, both those guys are available, 142 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 2: this is a different ballgame. No, I'm not saying Miami 143 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 2: is gonna win that game, but it's definitely a lot 144 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 2: closer than you know what. They only had ten offense 145 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 2: or what ten offensive points for Miami, and it was 146 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 2: a double digit game for most of the game. So 147 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 2: if I'm Miami, I think that, you know, you take 148 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 2: some things from this game that you didn't like, you know, 149 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 2: some things that you did like, and I think you 150 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 2: move forward and kind of just flush it because this one, 151 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 2: to me is not as bad as the Buffalo loss. 152 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 2: A few beause. 153 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good point about Ramsey and Howard were missing. 154 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: The young kid spaced on his name. He got lit 155 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: up by Stefan Diggs badly a few weeks ago, and 156 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure he was the one tugging on AJ 157 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: bur rounds Cape. Yes, I said Cape, because AJ Brown 158 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: is like Superman on that awesome play downfield deep. You're right, 159 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: they don't have the horses and secondary now, but Vic 160 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: Fongio will probably what he gets those guys back in December. 161 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: This defense could look different because you can get more 162 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: pressure up front and leave your quarterbacks on islands. You 163 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: trust them, Rob You Just something you just said triggered 164 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: me to look up the stack because I remember a 165 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: lot of offensive line and defensive line penalties on the Dolphins. 166 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:31,239 Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles zero penalties, zero yards. I don't that's stunning. 167 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,959 Speaker 1: Dolphins ten penalties for seventy yards. Ten penalties and zero 168 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: on the other side, So Miami not quite buttoned up. 169 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 1: They're still injured, so it's not a total punt of 170 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: the Dolphins. It's just I think right now the version 171 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 1: we're seeing, I think they definitely have a ceiling. Football 172 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: is back. 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If you remember the podcast like this 190 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: past week, we had two gamblers on who both said 191 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: the Chiefs line felt short. I think it was Rufus 192 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: who said the Chiefs line should have been nine. I 193 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: don't think the Chargers scored in the second half, and 194 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 1: I don't want to say the Kansas City's defense it 195 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: was all about them. It was really the Kansas City offense. Rob. 196 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,079 Speaker 1: They had just to get correct three hundred and twenty 197 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 1: one passing yards in the first half. All I've been 198 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: hearing is, oh, Mahomes doesn't have the receivers, you know, 199 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: blah blah blah. Three hundred and twenty one in the 200 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:15,959 Speaker 1: first half. It was unbelievable. Mahomes did whatever he wanted. 201 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 1: Travis kelce so much for the whole. Uh. You know, 202 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: Derwin James Man, he one of the better defenders on 203 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: Travis kelce Look the numbers of five six meetings. I mean, 204 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: Travis Kelcey was open all day. He's catching passes and 205 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 1: signaling and looking for Taylor Swift in the crowd. And 206 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: I will say, yes, I know, Rob's out on the 207 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: whole Taylor Swift stuff, and people are gonna be like, oh, 208 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: that story's overplayed. Listen Taylor Swift doing like football dances 209 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: with Patrick Mahomes's girlfriend in the box. I think that's funny. 210 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 1: I think that's cool. I'm a Taylor Swift guy. I 211 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 1: know not everybody is Rob. I guess your daughter's not 212 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: yet a Swifty. But I'll just say I think right 213 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: now the Chiefs aren't super fun to watch. Defensively, they're very, 214 00:10:56,480 --> 00:11:01,959 Speaker 1: very good. I almost wonder if the most interesting thing 215 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: about them right now is Taylor Swift because it's I 216 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: don't want to say they're boring, Rob, but they're not 217 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,199 Speaker 1: the teams of Tyreek Hill and Sammy Watkins with the 218 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: huge big play boom, gotcha. You know, they like to 219 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: just the Isaiah Pacheco grounded pound and then they'll just 220 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: slowly wear you down with Chris Jones and the young cornerbacks. 221 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: They're not like a spectacular watch. Rob think about it. 222 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 1: That Detroit Lions game that wasn't a great watch. I 223 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: know they didn't have Kelsey at Denver Broncos Thursday night 224 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 1: came that was ugly. I mean, the Bears game was 225 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 1: like forty two ten. But from my point of view, 226 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: like the Chiefs aren't. They're not as sexy as they 227 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: used to be. And now fortunately Taylor Swift has kind 228 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: of juiced up the team and I find them interesting 229 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: because of Taylor Swift. It's almost like they're pulling stats now. 230 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:52,559 Speaker 1: Travis Kelcey's numbers when Taylor Swift is in attendance are massive. 231 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 1: He's putting up bigger numbers when she shows up at games. 232 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:59,439 Speaker 1: It's it's kind of interesting. No, come on, get on board, baby. 233 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 2: Well, first off, let me correct you. My daughter is 234 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 2: a swift to the extent that a four year old 235 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 2: can be. There's a couple of songs that she knows 236 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 2: and she likes and my wife absolutely loves it that 237 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 2: they can sing along to a couple of Taylor Swift songs. 238 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 2: But to your point about the Chiefs, I tweeted out 239 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 2: during the game yesterday that this was the most complete 240 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 2: Chiefs team in the Mahomes era, and I think I 241 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 2: might've been to middle of the road there this. I'm 242 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,559 Speaker 2: gonna say it now on straight fire. This is the 243 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 2: best Kansas City Chiefs team in the Patrick Mahomes era 244 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 2: because that defense is a legitimate upper echelon union in 245 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 2: the NFL. It is a top five to seven defense 246 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,719 Speaker 2: in the NFL, and I think they're only going to 247 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 2: get better the more those young secondary players play. Fun 248 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 2: fact for you think about this, Andy Reid, Patrick Mahomes, 249 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 2: Travis Kelsey. You know that all that holy triumvirent there 250 00:12:56,360 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 2: in Kansas City? Do you know that they haven't allowed 251 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 2: a single team to score more than twenty points against 252 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 2: them this season? So even while Patrick Mahomes is I 253 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:16,199 Speaker 2: stand by this, that is a below average wide receiver room. 254 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 2: Like I no matter what, that is not great. But 255 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes with Travis Kelcey and a bunch of dudes 256 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 2: can throw for four hundred plus yards Like that says 257 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 2: a lot about him. It says a lot about Andy 258 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 2: Reid and their scheme. It says a lot about Travis 259 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 2: Kelcey and his ability to navigate the soft spots in 260 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 2: any zone that he's going against, doesn't matter. Him and 261 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes have this unreal chemistry. It's like Yokichen, Jamal 262 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 2: Murray and Denver Like it's just uncanny. But suddenly and 263 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 2: Andy Reid team is led by defense, and you know 264 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 2: that's not gonna be the case all season. You know, eventually, 265 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 2: one of these receivers is gonna pop, maybe not to 266 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 2: like a legitimate wide receiver one or even a legitimate 267 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 2: wide receiver two, but like a low end wide receiver 268 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 2: two type player. And maybe it's Rashi Rice, maybe it's 269 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 2: Sky Moore mvs had a big long touchdown there yesterday. 270 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 2: One of these guys is going to become like a 271 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 2: league average wide receiver. And as long as Patrick Mahomes 272 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 2: can stay upright, that offensive line is good, Travis Kelcey 273 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 2: is still very effective. Like, I don't know what the 274 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 2: recipe is to beat them. Yeah, Like we've seen the 275 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 2: worst version of this offense and it was the first 276 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 2: month and half of the season. I don't expect them 277 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 2: to take a I don't think I'm to throw for 278 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 2: three hundred yards and a half again, But I don't 279 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 2: expect them to take a huge step back moving forward offensively. 280 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 2: This Chiefs team is easily the best team in football 281 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 2: right now. 282 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. They Now, I went and looked up their schedule. 283 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: At quarterbacks, You're like, they haven't allowed anyone to score 284 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: over twenty one points. So it's like, Okay, they played 285 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: golf in the opener. They got twenty one, Trevor Lawrence, 286 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: Justin Fields, Zach Wilson, Kirk Cousins, Russell Wilson, and Justin Herbert. 287 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: So that's not that's not like a Baltimore Ravens opposing 288 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: slate of quarterbacks. That's that's that's tough. I think the 289 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: emergence of the offense now finding like Rice appears to 290 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: be the guy whom everybody thought it would be Sky Moore. 291 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: It's pretty clearly like where she Rice the young kid 292 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: is that dude. Even Mikole Hartman picked up from the 293 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: Jets this week. Did you see on that key third 294 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: down in the red zone? Yeah, fire, and like Tony 295 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: Romo called it, out, He's like, yeah, watch Hartman coming 296 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: across the middle. It was like bang, like Romo. I 297 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: guess he's still on his game. But yeah, I think 298 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: the Chief's far and away right now. Best team in 299 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: the AFC. Niners are dinged up. We just got where 300 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel is going to miss MNF tonight, and Trent 301 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: Williams is doubtful. Christian McCaffrey baby, so at the forty 302 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: nine ers are too beat up. I think the Chiefs 303 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: are most complete, most complete, but Rob, that's right now, 304 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: and we all know nobody wins the super Bowl in October. 305 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: Let's see where you are here in a few weeks 306 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: in December. The calendar turns to December and January. I 307 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: think that is when we'll start to know who's the best. 308 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: Because I don't know, you're seeing some of these, some 309 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: of these injuries. It feels like the Chiefs are impervious, 310 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: like they're not getting injuries. I hope that I'm not 311 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: trying to jink some or anything. But let's go to 312 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: the Ravens who have been kind of banged up and Rob. 313 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: This Ravens team, man, I don't want to say I 314 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: was wrong about them, because I don't think they're totally 315 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: locked in yet, like, but they're taking advantage of bad 316 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: opponents and they're winning kind of like Miami does. But 317 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: this was a test against the Detroit team that Detroit's 318 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: defense was number one against a run. Ravens ran for 319 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: I don't know, felt like six hundred yards of the 320 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: official number is Ravens one hundred and forty six rushing yards. 321 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: Detroit had not allowed a one hundred yard rusher, had 322 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: not a loot of one hundred yards for an opposing team. 323 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: Ravens had one hundred and the third quarter, Detroit's offense 324 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: had been a juggernaut. At halftime, it was twenty eight 325 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: nothing Jared Goff and company midway through the third quarter. 326 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: This is a crazy stat because I'm watching red zone 327 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: and they flashed off on the screen, so I take 328 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:06,360 Speaker 1: pictures of it. Midway through the third quarter yards Ravens 329 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 1: three hundred and twenty five Detroit thirteen. This was, in 330 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 1: all senses of the word an annihilation and embarrassment. I 331 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 1: feel bad saying like, hey, Detroit number one seed, I'll 332 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: take a quick twenty second time out, rob quick twenty 333 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 1: second time out. This is a week to week league. 334 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 1: Everybody as bad as Detroit look this week. Let me 335 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: see who they got next week. I think I already 336 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: circled them. I do. I don't have it right in 337 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 1: front of you. But it's a week to weekly and 338 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: they're not going to be this The Lions are not 339 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 1: this bad. They're also not as great as the team 340 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: that teld like what the last three opponents to like 341 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 1: doing nothing? So what are they are? They an upper 342 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: echelon team and there's like, yes, Kansas City and San 343 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 1: fran at the top, and then there's like a next tier. 344 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: Are they in that next tier? Well, I don't know. 345 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: Baltimore seems to be in that next year. Detroit doesn't 346 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: seem to be. I don't know. It's one of those 347 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 1: moments where it's like, oh, Jared Goff outside, well, no, 348 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: Jared Goff's son, okay outside, not here? He was. I mean, 349 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,439 Speaker 1: he was awful. They couldn't protect him. I think they 350 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: sacked him five times. Here's the weird thing, rob this 351 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 1: Detroit defense. Maybe they're the paper Tiger and not the 352 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 1: Miami offense. Because all I kept hearing from Lions fans 353 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:27,640 Speaker 1: when I said, well, the Detroit run d kind can 354 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 1: be leaky. I mean, Rob, they sent me all of them. 355 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: I didn't reply to any of them. You said this 356 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 1: on the Herd. Look at this video. You're wrong. The 357 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: Detroit run defense is awesome. I mean they got run over. 358 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 1: And by the way, the secondary if you watched any 359 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: of that first half, it's guys wide open. I charted 360 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 1: nine plays of over twenty yards for the Ravens in 361 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: the first half. So then the question becomes, Rob, was 362 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 1: this Ravens performance an outlier for Baltimore or Detroit? Or 363 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 1: was this just like this is really who these teams are. 364 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: I texted my Lions buddy friend, Hey, these are the 365 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: same old e fing Lions, and he's like, well, kind 366 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 1: of looks like, you know, he's a Diard Lions fan. 367 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 1: I don't know, are they good like this? Like, you know, 368 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 1: we expected them to lose, although I thought the Lions 369 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: could win this game. And when you come out with 370 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 1: an ass kicking like this, you start to question some things. 371 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 1: But remember the last team that had got their butts 372 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 1: kicked like this was Dallas against San fran Dallas bounced 373 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: back against the Chargers. Let's see how the Lions respond 374 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 1: to some adversity. I think I think they'll be okay. 375 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 1: Remember running back rooms banged up. They need Montgomery back. 376 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: He's really really good the defense. I don't know, they 377 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 1: got a lot of questions to answer. 378 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:41,439 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, I'm willing to bet that the 379 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 2: Lions are going to be just fine because next Monday 380 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 2: night they host my Las Vegas Raiders. Oh so, if 381 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 2: there was ever a get right game on the schedule, 382 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 2: maybe I need to go bet that Josh McDaniel's in 383 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 2: company coming into town. I think you were right as 384 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,120 Speaker 2: you said circle the Detroit Lions in week eight? 385 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: Is that under ten? 386 00:19:57,880 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 2: Because I think. 387 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: I'll pull up on the line right now. 388 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 2: It's probably opened up what seven and a half eight? 389 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: Well, it depends Jimmy G's back. That matters because Hoyer, 390 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:08,439 Speaker 1: Holy cal he's terrible. 391 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Jimmy G. I don't know if he 392 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 2: still does. But last I checked, he was leaving the 393 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 2: NFL interceptions. So you know, it is what it is, Okay, 394 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 2: But as far as Baltimore, this is kind of who 395 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 2: they are. And I don't mean that like as a compliment. 396 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 2: Follow me here for a second. Yesterday on Sunday, they 397 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 2: became the first team this season to score a touchdown 398 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 2: on east of each of their first four drives. That 399 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 2: includes the San Francisco demolition of Pittsburgh in Week one, 400 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 2: that includes the seventy burger of the Miami Dolphins. Put 401 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 2: up like we've seen some massive, massive scoring numbers this season, 402 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 2: you know, here and there, and they were the first 403 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 2: ones to do it where they score a touchdowner the 404 00:20:56,359 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 2: first four drives on the flip side. That same Lamar 405 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 2: Jackson led Baltimore Ravens team inexplicably lost to Indianapolis Colts 406 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:11,880 Speaker 2: and Gardner Minshew a few weeks ago. Like, on one hand, 407 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 2: they can blow out the Lions, they can smash the 408 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns, I believe they did a few weeks ago, 409 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 2: and then they lose a game like that, Like they 410 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 2: are their peaks are right up there with anybody, right 411 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 2: up there with the Niners, the Eagles, the Chiefs. The 412 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 2: problem is is that sometimes they get into these situations. 413 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 2: I don't know if they played out of their competition 414 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 2: or because their style of play is unique and you know, 415 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 2: they're predominantly running team. And then this actually this was 416 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 2: the first time yesterday where I thought that we saw 417 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 2: that new look offense and full display where they kind 418 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 2: of sprain the ball over the plays and that was 419 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 2: awesome to see and you hope that they can do 420 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 2: that more often. But they are a more consistent roller 421 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 2: coaster team than like Buffalo. Like if Buffalo's the extreme version, 422 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 2: they're like the Disneyland version where it's like only a 423 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 2: couple of times they are gonna be a little world coaster. 424 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 2: But you know, if they can play to their capability, 425 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 2: they can absolutely wap anybody. But the problem is they 426 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 2: don't always pay that way. 427 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, and the health has been an issue for Baltimore. 428 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: They got to stay healthy in the second day. Absolutely, 429 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 1: But right now, Rob on a neutral field, who you 430 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: take in Baltimore or Buffalo. 431 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 2: Oh, Baltimore for sure. 432 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: And I think everybody would say that the Buffalo Bills 433 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 1: are not the same team that they were when they 434 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,640 Speaker 1: smashed Miami by thirty a couple of weeks ago. They're 435 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 1: just not so much has changed since then. Losing Milano. 436 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 1: I forget if he went down against in the Jacksonville 437 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: game or if. 438 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 2: It was uh yes in the Jacksonville gay yep. 439 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 1: Tredavius White must have been against Miami. But the defensive 440 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: losses have been just too much to overcome, because when 441 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: mac Jones can repeatedly deliver against you, and then after 442 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: your improbable comeback where the Bills I think had they 443 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 1: were down twenty two ten in the fourth of like 444 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:05,679 Speaker 1: six minutes left, they went touchdown Kendrick Bourne fumble touchdown 445 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 1: and Buffalo's winning, and like, holy caw, well that's a shocker. 446 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: Can mac Jones go down and get you the win? 447 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 1: Or is he going to turn it over and give 448 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 1: Buffalo a cover they don't deserve. And mac Jones went 449 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 1: right down the field Ramandre Stevenson a couple of plays 450 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 1: and it was like easy. I mean, that's not something 451 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: that mac Jones has had all season. Everything's been a 452 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: massive chore. Now they are getting a little healthier on 453 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: the offensive line, but Buffalo's defense rob it just it 454 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 1: looks kind of toothless right now, and they took advantage. 455 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 1: They cannot defend tight ends running backs out of the backfield, 456 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: like I mean, Kendrick Born had a game. The kid 457 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 1: Douglas looks kind of kind of he's got some juice, 458 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: A small kid. I don't know. I said this summer, 459 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: Buffalo's Super Bowl window was closing and it would slam shut. 460 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 1: This year, they are now sitting. I just want to 461 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,919 Speaker 1: get accurate, Rob. Are they four and three? Yes, the 462 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills are now four and three and they have 463 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 1: not looked good three straight weeks. You know, I think 464 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: it'd be silly to not be concerned. It sounds like 465 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: Buffalo fans rob Or pinning this on Ken door City 466 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, or blaming him for slow starts. Jacksonville was 467 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: a slow start. Last week against the Giants was slow, 468 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,880 Speaker 1: and then this week was a slow start again Trey. 469 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: I think they they gave up a field goal to 470 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,679 Speaker 1: the Patriots, Josh Allen throws an interception on the first play, 471 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 1: Patriots score a touchdown, ten nothing, and Josh Allen's like 472 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 1: barely warm. So the slow starts, there's something there. But 473 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: the defense just isn't what it used to be. And 474 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 1: I will just remind people this. McDermott had to do 475 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: something after that loss in the postseason to Cincinnati, and 476 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 1: what he did was he took back the defense from 477 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 1: Leslie Fraser. It still isn't clear if he just kicked 478 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,959 Speaker 1: Fraser to the curb or it was like an amicable parting, 479 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: or it was like, hey, I'm taking away play calling, 480 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: and Fraser said, well, I'm I'm not doing that. So 481 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: so one thing happened and the defense just it's not 482 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: the same. I know they bottled up Sam Howell, but 483 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: who the hell doesn't do that? I mean, Sam Howells 484 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,479 Speaker 1: is on track to be sacked. I mean the numbers 485 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: like not even believable. I think it's ninety eight. Like 486 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: they Bills sacked him like nine times. Sam Howell's on sacked, 487 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 1: on pace to be sacked ninety six times. He's been 488 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 1: sacked forty five. Like, let's stop giving Buffalo credit for 489 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: killing Washington a few weeks back. You know, I don't know. 490 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 1: Four and three schedule is not easy. I don't want 491 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 1: to say miss the playoffs raw, that's a bit too 492 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 1: hot of a take. But I'll say this that AFC 493 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 1: north the Browns one, the Steelers won, and the Ravens won. 494 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 1: Cincinnati had to buy Joe Burrow's healthier. There's a chance. 495 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: I mean, there's a scenario where I know those teams 496 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: beat each other up, but three out of those four 497 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: make the playoffs. We'll see what happens with Watson's injury. 498 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: But Kenny Pickett looked a lot better against the Rams 499 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 1: now that he's got Deontay Johnson back. The brate a 500 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 1: more Jalen Warren off the by the running back like 501 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh's good people. Okay, Cincinnati has Burrow. If I'm Buffalo, 502 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,400 Speaker 1: I'm a little nervous looking forward. You got you got 503 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 1: a bad loss on the books to the Giants. I 504 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 1: think this is a bad loss to a Patriots team 505 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: that was one and five. And then I saw, you know, 506 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 1: one of these Patriot homers, Robbie, you're ready for this 507 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 1: Patriots stat. So in the last three years, there has 508 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 1: been a team that started two and five make the playoffs. 509 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 1: In twenty twenty, Washington started two and five with Taylor 510 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 1: Heineke snuck it. Twenty twenty one, the Eagles started two 511 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: and five, and I think that's when they went to 512 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts and started running the football and they got it. 513 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: And last year the Jags started two and five and 514 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,880 Speaker 1: made the playoffs. Is there a team at two and 515 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,919 Speaker 1: five to you that looks like they could get in 516 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,159 Speaker 1: the playoffs? And don't say the Patriots because they're not 517 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,199 Speaker 1: getting in the play like, just don't go there. But 518 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: there could be one that maybe satura two and five. 519 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 1: Something magical happens when the third quarter ends and the 520 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 1: fourth quarter begins. 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Learn 534 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,719 Speaker 1: more at HubSpot dot com slash sales. 535 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,479 Speaker 2: Who else is to Well, I'll look it up right now. 536 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 2: But but while I'm looking it up, can we just can 537 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,719 Speaker 2: we put the air buddies around the Deshaun Watson in 538 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,679 Speaker 2: injury quote unquote injury because now this is the second 539 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 2: consecutive This is the second consecutive what injury again, air 540 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,679 Speaker 2: quotes that he sustained because remember he had the shoulder 541 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,880 Speaker 2: issue and I'm not saying he doesn't have a legitimate 542 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 2: shoulder rotator cuffs, deep bruise, whatever it is. But this 543 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 2: is now the second time that the Browns medical staff 544 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 2: has cleared him to return to play, and he just 545 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 2: did not play. So the shoulder, he was cleared on 546 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 2: September thirtieth, and he took him one another three weeks 547 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 2: to come back after he was already medically cleared. And 548 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 2: then we find out on Sunday from Kevin Stefanski that 549 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 2: he got the concussion protocol, cleared concussion protocol and then 550 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 2: did not return to the game. Wow, So I mean, 551 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 2: that's not a good look for Deshaun Warrison. 552 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 1: Did you see him? So Watson threw one pick on 553 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 1: the sideline and it was horrendous, Yes, Like what the 554 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: hell is that? So then the next series he's like, 555 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: eludes some pressure and throws what should have been an 556 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 1: even worse pick, but the guy dropped it. And on 557 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 1: that play was where he banged his head and they 558 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 1: pulled him out and I think Stefanski was like, yo, 559 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 1: let's just shut him down. He's not ready. He clearly 560 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 1: isn't ready. I don't know. Is that bad? WHOA? 561 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 2: I just think it's not. It's not. It can't be a. 562 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 2: It can't endear him to his teammates to know that 563 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 2: twice now he's been medically clear, because most of you 564 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 2: know how these NFL players are, like, these guys are 565 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 2: playing with torn shoulders, high ankle sprains, broken ribs. I mean, 566 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey's going to play, and they said he has 567 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,959 Speaker 2: a tear in his oblique, Like that's gotta be one 568 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 2: of the most painful injuries to have just to move 569 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 2: around and you're a running back and he's like, no, 570 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 2: I'm gonna play like it just does. Deal with it, 571 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 2: shoot me up with tore it all or whatever it takes. 572 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 2: I'm gonna play. So that that's gotta be, you know, difficult. 573 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 2: Looking at your two and five situations. 574 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 1: Here, it's very slim pickings. 575 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 2: Can I count the two and four teams just because 576 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 2: they haven't played enough games, whether you give me that 577 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,080 Speaker 2: like that for a second. 578 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 1: Okay, go for it. 579 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 2: Okay, So the qualifying teams would be the Patriots, the Titans, 580 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 2: the Chargers. 581 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 1: Maybe the Giants, Denver, Denver Broncos and five Oh yes. 582 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 2: Two and five Denver bron No, okay, the Vikings, the Packers, 583 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 2: the Bears, and that's it. 584 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 1: Packers are awful right now? 585 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 2: Oh my god. I mean, if if I had to 586 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 2: pick one, I would probably go the Vikings because you know, 587 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 2: I love me some Kirk Cousins. 588 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 1: Well, they got to lose tonight. They might not get 589 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 1: to two and five. 590 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 2: Well, I think they're probably gonna lose. I don't know, Okay, 591 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 2: So let's say they don't lose, or let's say that 592 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 2: they win. So pick a different team? Can I pick 593 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 2: the Chicago Bears? After what? What was it? Tea Bag? 594 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 2: That's his nickname her on Twitter hashtag tea Bag. Apparently 595 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 2: I didn't know if that was that. I like the 596 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 2: cut of his jib man, and I saw him a 597 00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 2: little bit last week against Carolina and what he did 598 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 2: the Raiders. The one thing I'll say about him is this, 599 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 2: the moment did not look too big for him in 600 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 2: either of those two games. He did not look like 601 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 2: an undrafted rookie quarterback, you know, taking his first snaps 602 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 2: at a high level football. He looked like a rookie, 603 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 2: but he didn't look scared. And that's more than you 604 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 2: can say for a lot of these guys. Brian Hoyer 605 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 2: looks scared, right, Desmond Raider at times looks scared. Bryce 606 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 2: Young even at times looks scared like he's afraid to 607 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 2: pull the trigger. Okay, and that kid didn't. So I 608 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 2: guess if I had to pick one, I can't pick 609 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 2: the Vikings. Give me the Chicago Bears. 610 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 1: That nickname is killer. I'm cracking over here, So I did. 611 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: I was on the Bears in the contest. I mean 612 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 1: the easy, easy winner. Sorry to your Raiders, but basically 613 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 1: they it was like, we're just gonna go by. If 614 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: this is there, great take it. If not, tuck and run. 615 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: He had zero pass attempts over fifteen air yards. We 616 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 1: don't want to risk anything. Basically, it was the most basic. 617 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 1: There was very little tape on this kid, so clearly 618 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 1: the Raiders did not know what to expect. That they 619 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 1: weren't ready for his wheels. I think the Chargers will 620 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 1: be ready. I've already bet this. That was the first 621 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 1: bet that I made. I bet the Chargers nine and 622 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 1: a half is a big number. They are at home 623 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 1: at so FI against the Bears. Now, if Chicago's plucky early, 624 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: that could be a Bear's crowd. We heard Steelers. I 625 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 1: had a Steelers buddy who was there, was like, dude, 626 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 1: it is at least seventy percent Steelers. The only problem 627 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 1: is the number is nine and a half. Is that 628 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 1: too rich for your blood? Chargers favorable? 629 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 2: Hell? Yeah? Why would you trust the Chargers giving up nine? 630 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 1: This is a fade of tea bags. I think Bosa 631 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 1: and Mack are going to come after them. I think 632 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 1: Staley will cook up some stuff I think the Chargers 633 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 1: would handle. Now. I will be in attendance for that game. 634 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 1: I don't know what our podcast schedule will be next, 635 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 1: by the way, next three Sundays. I I've got it. 636 00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 1: I've got it up against it. I we'll see unless 637 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 1: I somehow back out of Jets Raiders in Vegas. But 638 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 1: the Herd staff told me I cannot fly back Monday morning. 639 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 1: I have to fly back Sunday night. So we'll see. 640 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 1: But yeah, the Chargers were the first bet. All right, 641 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 1: real quick, Rob, I want to wrap up before we 642 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 1: get the best bet. I need a word on Kayleb 643 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 1: Williams did you watch any of that train wreck? 644 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 2: Yes? 645 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 1: On Sunday night. Okay, did you read the Bill Plashki 646 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 1: column in the LA Times. 647 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 2: Not his most recent I read the one where he 648 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 2: said they were going to go twelve and zero and 649 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 2: now obviously that didn't work out. Yes, but no, I haven't. 650 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 1: Read his in supposed breakthrough USC season. Lincoln Riley has 651 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 1: been a bust. And I mean he Plashki, who's an 652 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 1: LA columnist, old school guy, just eviscerates Lincoln Riley and listen, 653 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: there's a lot to hammer him for the number that 654 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 1: is shocking here. So after twenty two games, Clay Helton, 655 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 1: who nobody liked, was seventeen and five. After twenty two games, 656 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley is you guessed it? Seventeen to five? And 657 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 1: Clay Helton did not have Caleb Williams or anyone in 658 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 1: his stratosphere. Williams and I said this after the Notre 659 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 1: Dame game, and you know, cowhard staff was like, we 660 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 1: got to talk about this, and they pulled my tweets 661 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 1: and put it on the show and Colin's like, Jay, 662 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 1: you need to settle down, come on, and I'm just 663 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 1: I was saying stuff like listen, it looks like Caleb 664 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 1: Williams in his camp are spending so much time looking 665 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 1: at the NFL standings and where he's going to go 666 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 1: and mock drafts and what about this and I don't 667 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 1: want to go here and all this and not that 668 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:40,280 Speaker 1: they almost had like lost focus. And I thought Caleb 669 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 1: was way way off in the Notre Dame game, like 670 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 1: didn't know what was coming, ill prepared. And then came Utah, 671 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 1: and you know what's coming in Utah And this was 672 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 1: the first game in his career he did not have 673 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 1: a touchdown pass. He did have a good touchdown run 674 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 1: there late to give him the lead, and the defense 675 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 1: melted and stinks and the DC should be fired or 676 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 1: reassigned or whatever, real damn soon. I'm not off to 677 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,320 Speaker 1: Caleb Williams Droum. He's obviously a very special talent and 678 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 1: the skills are there, but once people start doing some puncturing, 679 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 1: they start coming up with this stuff like this. Oh, look, 680 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 1: Caleb Williams is amazing, amazing when facing non top twenty 681 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,840 Speaker 1: five teams, you know, the dregs of the PAC twelve. 682 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:27,359 Speaker 1: He's gonna hang big numbers on Arizona and whoever else. 683 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:32,400 Speaker 1: But When Caleb Williams is playing top twenty five teams Utah, 684 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:38,439 Speaker 1: Notre Dame, his completion percentage drops off twenty percentage points 685 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 1: to fifty one percent. He's averaging one hundred and seventy 686 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,760 Speaker 1: two yards passing a game, and he's got six touchdowns 687 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 1: and six interceptions. Listen, He's not a West Coast kid 688 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 1: who's soft and will struggle if he goes to cold Chicago. 689 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 1: He's not one of those guys. He's from the DC area. Okay. 690 00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 1: I like Cayler Williams a lot. I think he's got 691 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 1: a great chance. But you know how Josh Allen has 692 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 1: gotten into those yolo things where he just thinks he 693 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 1: can make stuff happen and chuck it. I'm seeing a 694 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 1: lot of that with Caleb Williams. And his offensive line stinks. Okay, 695 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:16,759 Speaker 1: it's terrible, but it's almost like every play is just 696 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 1: freelancing rob And I like Killer Williams a lot. I 697 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,400 Speaker 1: still think he's going to be a really really, really 698 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 1: really good pro. But it feels like he's not dropping 699 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 1: back and going through progressions and make the play. It's like, Oh, 700 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 1: this isn't there. Oh they took that away. Let me 701 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 1: just run around and try to scramble, Like, listen, you 702 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 1: can do that in the PAC twelve. You can't do 703 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 1: that in the NFL. It will not work. Like there 704 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,240 Speaker 1: is a ceiling on that stuff. We're seeing Lamar Jackson 705 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 1: win really nicely from the pocket. It's taken a few years. 706 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 1: And just to add and I'm not bashing Caleb Williams, 707 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,440 Speaker 1: I just need to be clear. But Drake May is 708 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,719 Speaker 1: looking really really good. And I know they lost to 709 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,239 Speaker 1: UVA and UVa's future and how does that happen? Drake 710 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 1: Bay couldn't get the win? Like stop with the wins, 711 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,920 Speaker 1: Like watch the poison in the pocket. Look at the 712 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 1: arm strength he's delivering, all the throws, tight windows. He 713 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,799 Speaker 1: now has a stud receiver who's probably gonna be at 714 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 1: first round picked that kid, Ted Walker is off the 715 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,439 Speaker 1: charts good. But Rob, I don't know. Am I being 716 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,880 Speaker 1: too harsh on Caleb after two losses? The losses are 717 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 1: not all about him, But it's like I haven't seen 718 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 1: total greatness. And I know everybody's had struggles. Trevor Lawrence 719 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 1: had a couple of bad games at Clemson, Andrew luck 720 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 1: had some bad games at Stanford. I just I'm starting 721 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:44,279 Speaker 1: to not question the greatness, but just maybe we need 722 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:45,799 Speaker 1: to slow down. This guy is not going to be 723 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:50,279 Speaker 1: some transformative, massive superstar right out of the gate, Like 724 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:51,279 Speaker 1: it's gonna take some time. 725 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think anybody who was thinking that was foolish 726 00:37:56,160 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 2: because history tells us none of these guys are transformative 727 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 2: superstar that out of the gate. Pick your favorite quote 728 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:08,320 Speaker 2: unquote can't miss quarterback. They all struggled. I believe Trevor 729 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 2: Lawrence was five and twenty to start his career. I 730 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:14,719 Speaker 2: think Peyton Manning threw more interceptions than touchdowns his his 731 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 2: rookie year. Andrew Luck came out of the gate and 732 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:19,960 Speaker 2: they I believe they won ten games or eleven games, 733 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 2: made the playoffs, but he had a turn. He had 734 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:23,759 Speaker 2: an interception problem early in his career, even all the 735 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:25,520 Speaker 2: way to the end of his career because he retired early. 736 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 2: Like there's no such thing as a sure thing when 737 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,400 Speaker 2: it comes to NFL quarterbacks. And I just wanted to 738 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 2: update the stats because that number you read about Caleb 739 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 2: Williams versus top five or top twenty five teams, that's 740 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,719 Speaker 2: actually been updated because this is now the sixth team 741 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,040 Speaker 2: that he's played that hit that criteria, so instead of 742 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:45,719 Speaker 2: throwing for one seventy two, he's actually don for one 743 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 2: eighty four. So we can't short tange in that extra. 744 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:49,319 Speaker 1: Twelve years twelve yard. 745 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,319 Speaker 2: Yea, that's a big deal for Kayleb Willis. But the 746 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:55,560 Speaker 2: same thing. Six touchdown, six picks not great look when 747 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,440 Speaker 2: you watch him play. And because I live in the 748 00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 2: West Coast, I'm able to watch a lot of Kayleb 749 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,800 Speaker 2: Williams because play a lot of you know, five pm, 750 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,560 Speaker 2: seven pm start times here in the West, that's kind 751 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 2: of late for some people in the East Coast. The 752 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 2: comparisons to Patrick Mahomes are spot on because early Patrick 753 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:19,240 Speaker 2: Mahomes played exactly the way Caylens Williams does now, freelancing 754 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,920 Speaker 2: his best stuff, his off platform scramble scramble, scramble, and 755 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,440 Speaker 2: make a ridiculous throw to a streaking Tyreek hill. Kyleb 756 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:30,839 Speaker 2: Williams is all those same things. The comparisons to even 757 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,719 Speaker 2: a young Aaron Rodgers type, you know, Aaron Rodgers was 758 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,520 Speaker 2: probably further advanced than this, but Aaron Rodgers, you know, 759 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:40,160 Speaker 2: back then, his best stuff was off schedule because he 760 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,919 Speaker 2: could just make things happen, extend plays with his feet 761 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,080 Speaker 2: and then fire like a forty yard rope down the 762 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,799 Speaker 2: sidelines over the defender's you know, helmet, Like that's what 763 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 2: he was. Cayler Williams is like that. And to your point, 764 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:55,080 Speaker 2: he doesn't play within the structure of the offense, at 765 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 2: least not yet. That's not what he does. So if 766 00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:01,200 Speaker 2: you're expecting him to go to a team that's gonna 767 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,719 Speaker 2: ask him to play like that, you're probably gonna be disappointed. 768 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,960 Speaker 2: Like he's at his best when he's playing that backyard 769 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 2: stile and maybe you can break it out of him 770 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 2: in a couple of years in his NFL career, the 771 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 2: same way that Andy Reid did to Patrick Mahomes. But 772 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,719 Speaker 2: you're gonna have to live with that to start off with. 773 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:19,799 Speaker 2: And so I'm still high on him. I still think 774 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,319 Speaker 2: he's gonna be obviously a franchise quarterback. I hope my 775 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,760 Speaker 2: Raiders can get him. But if you thought coming into 776 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,120 Speaker 2: this season, even before these last threeks where he struggled, 777 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:29,640 Speaker 2: that you thought he was gonna be a cat miss 778 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,839 Speaker 2: surefire whoever gets him is gonna win ten games, then no, 779 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:33,719 Speaker 2: he's not that at all. 780 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:37,480 Speaker 1: And we should add Mahomes sat for a year nobody 781 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,440 Speaker 1: said when they were drafting him, oh that's our franchise guy. No, 782 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 1: I don't remember that being said at all. Obviously they 783 00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:44,759 Speaker 1: liked him a lot. And oh, by the way, that 784 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:46,719 Speaker 1: this guy named Andy Reid who knows a little bit 785 00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,840 Speaker 1: about offense. I mean, we'll see where Caleb EN's up, 786 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 1: but you know the pressure will be on him. It 787 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,800 Speaker 1: will not be on Drake Bay because he's going second. 788 00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:00,520 Speaker 1: Likely It's gonna be fascinating. By the way, Bears could 789 00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,320 Speaker 1: did get a dub. I think they have two wins 790 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 1: now or one. 791 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:05,640 Speaker 2: They have two, two and five. Remember then my two 792 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:07,880 Speaker 2: and five pick Tea Bags. 793 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:14,279 Speaker 1: So five Carolina winless. Bears have that and Arizona fell 794 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:18,240 Speaker 1: to one and six. Nice cover by Seahawks, way too close. 795 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,359 Speaker 1: I think Arizona's gonna we'll see. 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He 828 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:22,040 Speaker 1: is making money while you do it. Here's your best bet. 829 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:27,040 Speaker 1: All right, we'll quickly wrap up lengthy Monday Pod Monday 830 00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,520 Speaker 1: Night Football. I don't even know if this is a 831 00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,880 Speaker 1: good one, Niners Vikings. I do have a fear, because 832 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,280 Speaker 1: I did. I'm already looked at the lines for next week. 833 00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,319 Speaker 1: I did tell you I bet the Chargers. The other 834 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:46,200 Speaker 1: game that I got was no, No, it was not 835 00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:47,920 Speaker 1: philed I thought it was Philadelphia. I did not take 836 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:51,440 Speaker 1: Philly against Washington again. I might go back to the Saints. 837 00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:55,920 Speaker 1: Well against the Colts. It's gonna be tough the stomach. 838 00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:59,240 Speaker 1: But I looked ahead at the schedule in San France 839 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:04,399 Speaker 1: plays since Natty next week, and that's obviously a big game, 840 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:12,279 Speaker 1: super Bowl potential preview. How locked inner they against Minnesota, 841 00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:17,200 Speaker 1: a team that stinks, a team that is down Justin Jefferson. 842 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,640 Speaker 1: I just wonder if San Franz just goes in, does 843 00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:26,520 Speaker 1: just enough and wins seventeen thirteen in a game that 844 00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:28,480 Speaker 1: should not be that close and they don't cover, you know, 845 00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:30,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I think San fran is a better side. 846 00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,320 Speaker 1: This dipped down a six and a half on Sunday 847 00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,200 Speaker 1: when it was ruled the debos out and Trent Williams 848 00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:37,920 Speaker 1: is questionable, But then you look at the Vikings, You're like, 849 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:38,880 Speaker 1: Vikings can't take. 850 00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:39,360 Speaker 2: Advantage of that. 851 00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:44,760 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan should have his way with this Flores defense. Flora. 852 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,280 Speaker 1: You know, Flores did a good job last week against 853 00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:51,879 Speaker 1: Justin Fields and Badgin, which that's not saying anything I think, 854 00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:55,360 Speaker 1: SA I do worry about these primetime games getting weird. 855 00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:59,520 Speaker 1: Weird stuff happens that Jacksonville Saint's game Thursday just strange 856 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:04,239 Speaker 1: as hell. I'll ride with Brock Perdy. I wonder if 857 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,959 Speaker 1: there is added pressure on perty coming off as first 858 00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:10,640 Speaker 1: regular season loss. Remember they win that game, Rob if 859 00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,200 Speaker 1: the kid hits the kick from forty one, So and 860 00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:16,080 Speaker 1: this is probably seven and a half eight instead of 861 00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:20,560 Speaker 1: seven or six and a half. I like the Niners here, 862 00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,760 Speaker 1: I'll go Niners twenty three, Vikings fourteen. 863 00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:29,400 Speaker 2: That feels right to me. And to your point, I 864 00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,840 Speaker 2: actually need that kind of score because in order for 865 00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,000 Speaker 2: me to avoid falling to two and five in my 866 00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:37,000 Speaker 2: fantasy league, I need thirty five combined points in Brandon 867 00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:40,440 Speaker 2: Iuk and TJ. Hockinson. So I need some scoring out 868 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,600 Speaker 2: of the field. A seventeen thirteen game is not going 869 00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:43,560 Speaker 2: to get it done for me. 870 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,919 Speaker 1: So you'll need like three touchdowns between these two those two, yes, 871 00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:49,760 Speaker 1: between the two of them. That's doable. Does your opponent 872 00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:51,400 Speaker 1: have anybody? 873 00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,640 Speaker 2: No? So I'm down thirty four thirty four and a 874 00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,240 Speaker 2: half heading into tonight's games. And you know what's frustrated 875 00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:58,600 Speaker 2: I want to get off on a tangent, is that 876 00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:00,640 Speaker 2: I have the second highest scoring team in the league 877 00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,040 Speaker 2: and if I do not get thirty five points from 878 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:06,520 Speaker 2: hackets and I will fall to two and five. So 879 00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:08,880 Speaker 2: that's frustus. He sucks fantasy. 880 00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:14,280 Speaker 1: Last year you were talking trash, right, I remember, Yeah, 881 00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,920 Speaker 1: I'm in a league where I set it was a 882 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,200 Speaker 1: last second decision. Jameis and Williams, Oh, he could only 883 00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:22,160 Speaker 1: hits it. He hits one, Bob boom. I should start 884 00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,520 Speaker 1: him over Josh Downs. I think the brown secondary Zenzel 885 00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:28,560 Speaker 1: wardle lock him up. Josh Downs touchdown in the opening drive, 886 00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,200 Speaker 1: finishes with twenty three fantasy points. Jamis and Williams a 887 00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:34,239 Speaker 1: friggin goose egg. So I'm nursing a lead. I have 888 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:38,480 Speaker 1: Ray Ray McCleod in a pinch. Could he get a 889 00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:40,680 Speaker 1: reverse for a touchdown? Is that because he's going to 890 00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:45,200 Speaker 1: be playing the debo role, you know. I mean, we'll see, 891 00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,359 Speaker 1: but I also need it to win though. Well I'm 892 00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,400 Speaker 1: up like like twelve or something. But he has he 893 00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,520 Speaker 1: has Jordan Addison. I don't know, maybe I should. You 894 00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:56,640 Speaker 1: know what I could do is I could put in 895 00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:00,000 Speaker 1: the kid Mason in play, the running back in play 896 00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:04,960 Speaker 1: Ray Ray McLeod. Oh no, I can't rob damn it. 897 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:08,200 Speaker 1: I think I started Ray Ray at receiver. This is 898 00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,200 Speaker 1: just amateur hour on my part. Wait, let me look 899 00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:14,000 Speaker 1: at it. I know everybody cares about my fantasy team. Mother. 900 00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:15,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, because it might make more sense to go with 901 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,760 Speaker 2: Mason and take like the floor of four points rather 902 00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:20,560 Speaker 2: than the risk of a goose egg from Ray Ray 903 00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:21,960 Speaker 2: McLeod it's receiver. 904 00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a loss anyways, All right back tomorrow on 905 00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:28,920 Speaker 1: straight fire. Talk to you then,