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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, Sex lies and videotape, will

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Speaker 1: secret sex recordings sink Diddy aka Sean Puffy comes this

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Speaker 1: as Diddy spends the last seventy two hours trying really

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Speaker 1: hard to look nonchalant. I'll tell you this, if a

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Speaker 1: in armored trucks and wearing kevlar, I'd be worried. I'm

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Speaker 1: Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being

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Speaker 1: with us here at Crime Stories and on MSM. Where

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Speaker 1: is Diddy? He's spending the last seventy two hur hours

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Speaker 1: looking very not concerned about the ongoing sex trafficking investigation

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Speaker 1: instigated by the federal government Homeland security investigators piling into

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Speaker 1: a simultaneous search of two Diddy locations. Seemingly that doesn't

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Speaker 1: bother him. As a matter of fact, he reposted one

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Speaker 1: of his music videos titled Victory Okay, what was that?

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Speaker 1: At the very end a woman writhing up and down

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Speaker 1: on a stripper pole, seemingly in a cage, and then

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Speaker 1: you see a cutaway of Sean Puffy Combs on the

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Speaker 1: run from apparently federal agents. Wow, I don't know that

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Speaker 1: this is a good time to repost that, but he did. Guys,

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Speaker 1: take a listen to this.

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Speaker 2: While initial reports indicated that Combs may have left the country,

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Speaker 2: it appears the mogul has remained in Miami since the raids.

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Speaker 2: Combs was seen taking his teen daughters to Top Golf

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Speaker 2: and stopping by a restaurant in the days after the searches.

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Speaker 2: Over the Easter holiday, Combs posted several photos of his

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Speaker 2: youngest daughter Love. Most recently, the rapper was caught on

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Speaker 2: camera riding his bike to South Beach. Combs was all smiles,

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Speaker 1: As Seanpavi, Combs gets warnings from behind bars that his

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Speaker 1: life is in danger, he goes for a bye ride

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Speaker 1: with me an all star panel to make sense of

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Speaker 1: what we know right now. But first of Kila Brantley,

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Speaker 1: investigative reporter with Dailymail dot Com, on the story from

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Speaker 1: the very beginning, Kila, what's the latest?

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Speaker 3: Thanks for having me, Nancy. Things have just gone from

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Speaker 3: bad to worse for Diddy, and now not only is

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Speaker 3: he being accused of misconduct, but his son is being accused.

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Speaker 3: Now his son, Christian King Colmbs. He's only twenty six

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Speaker 3: years old, and he was named in a lawsuit by

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Speaker 3: a young woman twenty five year old named Grace, who

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Speaker 3: was working on a yacht in December twenty twenty two

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Speaker 3: when she says that Christian Combs assaulted her, that he's

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Speaker 3: tried groping her, that he trapped her in a room,

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Speaker 3: came to stop it that she was finally released. She

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Speaker 3: said that she was forced to take a tequila shot,

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Speaker 3: and there's actual audio of that incident where she asks

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Speaker 3: is this drugged? And he says, take the tequila shot?

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Speaker 1: Okay, wait, where did the video come from?

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Speaker 3: So it's an audio that was a transcript of the

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Speaker 3: audio was included in the thirty one page lawsuit. So

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Speaker 3: apparently I'm not sure who exactly was recording, but there

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I've got a lawsuit, right, it's a whopper,

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Speaker 1: it's huge. Joining me very quickly, and I want to

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Speaker 1: circle back to you, Kela about Sean Puffy Combs aka

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Speaker 1: Ditty Spinning, Spinning, Spinning, I mean, this guy is a

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Speaker 1: master promoter. That's what he has done to become a

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Speaker 1: He spends he spends it right and that's what he's

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Speaker 1: doing right now. Every move he makes in the public anyway,

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Speaker 1: is for a reason. To Bernarda Villa Loona Banara via

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Speaker 1: Loana criminal defense attorney, former prosecutor at via Loona Law

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Speaker 1: dot com, BERNARDA, thank you for being with us. Here's

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Speaker 1: the reality. Sean Puffy Combs has been dragged into another

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Speaker 1: lawsuit claiming sex attack on his son because it occurred

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Speaker 1: on ditties seanpafy c coms yacht Okay. And the allegation

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Speaker 1: But what I want to ask you about, Bernarda Violona

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Speaker 1: is the audio tape that Caleb Brantley's talking about. Can

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Speaker 1: I see Bernarda. Please Bernarda to get a video or

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Speaker 1: in audio tape, even if it's a nine to one

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Speaker 1: or whoever wants to bring it in, has to go

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Speaker 1: through a series of evidentiary hoops. In fact, it's laid

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Speaker 1: have to prove veracity. You've got to show who made

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Speaker 1: when I say who made it, where did it come from?

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Speaker 1: That's got to be even in court before it can

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Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely so, Nancy. What it seems like is that

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Speaker 1: to his house after the trial, but I believe you're

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so supposedly it was Little Rod. Ronnie Jones was

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Speaker 5: the one who made this recording.

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Speaker 4: Which calls into question is why he was making a

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Speaker 4: and he wanted evidence of it. Interestingly enough, that the

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Speaker 4: But this is very damning evidence because usually in cases

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Speaker 4: like this, Nancy, what's the number one defense, credibility, believe ability.

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Speaker 5: She's making it up. This is a money.

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Speaker 4: Grap But here you have an actual audio recording that

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Speaker 4: is actually what happened. There is nothing missing from that recording,

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Speaker 4: and will be able to meet the birden to have

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Speaker 4: that piece of evidence move into evidence if it's in

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Speaker 5: So that hurdle is going to be met.

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Speaker 4: But this is very damaging against his son, also damaging

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Speaker 4: against Didi because it can even possibly go in if

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Speaker 4: the federal prosecutors are looking at a reco charge can

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Speaker 4: go in as one of those acts.

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Speaker 1: You're throwing around a lot of legal phrases when you

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Speaker 1: say rico, it's a typically referred to as racketeering. But

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Speaker 1: what she means as an organized conspiracy, it doesn't have

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Speaker 1: sex trafficking. And you know, BERNARDA. Vielona, I like what

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Speaker 1: Now this as it span spinning out, Caleb Brantley joining

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Speaker 1: me dailymail dot Com. The Instagram model Jade Ramie denies

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Speaker 1: a sex worker. So the fans are not going to

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Speaker 1: But I see a litmus test here when you say, hey,

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Speaker 1: you're lying on me. That's slander, that's libel. Are you

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Speaker 1: a complete defense. So let's just see if a lawsuit

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Speaker 1: Cobs being a spindmaster, a powerhouse in the music industry,

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Speaker 1: largely because he is not only talented, but a genius

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Speaker 1: at marketing. This promoter is putting out there his actions

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Speaker 1: implying a lot. He's viking, he's smiling. Come to me, Liz.

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Speaker 1: let go of the handlebars and just went freestyle. Hey look, mom,

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Speaker 1: the world. Biking, smiling, drinking wine. Translation, I'm not worried.

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Speaker 3: As you can see, these allegations go back decades, and

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Speaker 3: When he tells people to cover things up, they do it.

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Speaker 3: So for him, obviously things have gotten much worse. He's

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Speaker 3: But for him, this is just another issue that he's

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Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy, Grace, Scott, and Johnson joining me

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Speaker 1: forensic psychologists thirty two years dealing with sex predators at

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Speaker 1: Forensicconsultation dot org. Scott, thank you for being with us.

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Speaker 1: You know, I prosecuted a lot of eight cases, a

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Speaker 1: can't even count them all, Scott. And sometimes the defendant

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Speaker 1: comes into corney looks really worried, okay, sweating, fidgety, can't

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Speaker 6: Right, and part of that narcissism and psychopath traits of

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Speaker 6: being able to portray themselves is socially great and then

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Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, an associate of Sean Puffy

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Speaker 1: comes aka Didty, has released a highlight reel of Sean

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Speaker 1: Puffy cums lavish parties. This emerges with combst partying with

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Speaker 7: As rumors swirl around the sex trafficking allegations against Sean

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Speaker 7: Ditty Comb's. Many celebrities in Comb's circle have remained silent. Others,

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Speaker 7: especially those named in Rodney Jones lawsuit, have rushed to

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Speaker 7: the rappers defense. Producer Stevie j posted a highlight reel

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Speaker 7: A list attendees. While the post purports to indicate what

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Speaker 1: so I guess the point is all of these A

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Speaker 1: listeners are partying with Combs. You think the fans care?

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Speaker 1: Everybody parties with Puff. That's Stevie Jay's visual reminder, STEVEEJ

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Speaker 1: today is this video showing star after star after star

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Speaker 1: you think the fans care?

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Speaker 6: Absolutely not, because this is just him portraying this socially normal,

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Speaker 1: thank you for being with us keeping video seriously. I mean,

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Speaker 8: That's what people do. People keep videos to look back on,

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Speaker 8: I'm not remend just people had to have they keep

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Speaker 3: You know what?

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Speaker 1: I got bigger problems in the Dayton timestamp Barry Golden.

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Speaker 1: Of course you're right, Yes, of course you're right. Evidentiarily

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Speaker 1: I need to shrink. And you're a forensic psychologist. What

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Speaker 6: Seize yes and out of narcissism, they keep these videos

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Speaker 1: Nobody's been tried, nobody's been found guilty. In fact, Sean

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Speaker 6: Well, it's one way to not only keep the victim quiet,

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Speaker 1: Why do you keep saying that you and Barry Golden reminiscing, like, hey,

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Speaker 9: Yes, I see a pattern here that we see a

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Speaker 3: Now that clearly hasn't worked out for Diddy. And this

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to go back out to Brett Brown,

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Speaker 3: to have blackmail on these high powered people that he

430
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Speaker 3: had these videos of, And in an Epstein esque fashion,

431
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Speaker 3: you know, it worked out. Maybe we would have had lawsuits,

432
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Speaker 3: maybe we would have had raids and federal investigations years

433
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 3: ago if he didn't have these videos for potential blackmail

434
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Speaker 3: on these high powered people.

435
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Speaker 1: Well it goes beyond that. Guys. This is incredible to me.

436
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 1: But in the last hours, the alleged victims lawyer has

437
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 1: been attacked in claims that the victims are out to

438
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 1: quote embarrass SBC Sean Puffy Combs, completely ignoring the hell

439
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 1: that sex trafficking victims go through. Oh no, yeah, that

440
00:28:56,280 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 1: didn't happen. Don't look there, look over here. Did he's embarrassed? Listen?

441
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 2: Tyrone Blackburn, the lawyer representing both Rodney Jones and Grace Omarquay,

442
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 2: the latest of Suecombs, is accused of improperly filing several

443
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 2: lawsuits to quote garner media attention, embarrassed defendants with salacious allegations,

444
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 2: and pressure defendants to settle quickly. Judge Denise Code has

445
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Speaker 2: referred Blackburn to the New York Federal Court's Grievance Committee,

446
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Speaker 2: which has the power to disbar Blackburn. Sean and Justin

447
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 2: Comb's lawyer, Aaron Dyer stated, the latest filing by Blackburn

448
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 2: is quote filled with the same kind of manufactured lies

449
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Speaker 2: and irrelevant facts we've come to expect from Blackburn. We

450
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Speaker 2: will be filing a motion to dismiss this outrageous claim.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's analyze what we just heard. Okay, killib Brantley.

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Speaker 1: Let me understand this. I was used to it as

453
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Speaker 1: a prosecutor. Every big trial I had, I would get

454
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Speaker 1: a claim that I needed to be thrown off the case.

455
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Speaker 1: Why it varied, and the judge needed to be thrown

456
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Speaker 1: off the case, and the investigator needed to be thrown

457
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Speaker 1: off the SAK case. Everybody needs to get thrown off

458
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Speaker 1: the case, right, Okay, we see it happen in a

459
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Speaker 1: lot of high profile cases. And here's the beginning claims

460
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Speaker 1: being made on the alleged victims lawyer that he's the

461
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Speaker 1: bad guy, and now there's actually going to be what

462
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Speaker 1: a mini hearing on it. I mean, this is so

463
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Speaker 1: bass Awkwards. The alleged victim's lawyer is getting a complaint

464
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Speaker 1: on him. You know what, I might give it a

465
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Speaker 1: shred of analysis, but that the fact that the Feds

466
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 1: just searched spc's homes armed with assault weapons, that kind

467
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Speaker 1: of corroborates what the victim's lawyer is saying. Oh, there's

468
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Speaker 1: some new video out. I do not want to look

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Speaker 1: out my kitchen window and see this. Oh hey, did

470
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Speaker 1: you just see that drone? They use drones to precede

471
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Speaker 1: them to make sure he's hiding around a corner with

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Speaker 1: an M six steing. So what about this, Caleb Brantley,

473
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Speaker 1: The victims lawyers are under attack.

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Speaker 3: I mean, clearly, it just looks like it's a distraction

475
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Speaker 3: and they're trying to attack the lawyer's credibility, trying to

476
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Speaker 3: go after anything they can to prolong what will eventually

477
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Speaker 3: likely be a trial that they're going to throw anything

478
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Speaker 3: that they can to really distract everyone, to just deny, deny, deny,

479
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 3: go for credibility and hope that something sticks and gets

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Speaker 3: him off on a technicality.

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Speaker 6: This is very common of psychopaths to use projection and

482
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Speaker 6: put everything off on everyone else and gas lighting. You know,

483
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 6: look at how the victim's really not credible and they're

484
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 6: everything everyone. That's what they're good at is blaming to defer,

485
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Speaker 6: looking at their own client.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, and yes, Bernardo Vilona, and I want to

487
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Speaker 1: hear from you and from Brown from sas BERNARDA. I mean,

488
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Speaker 1: any good prosecutor has been threatened with getting thrown off

489
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Speaker 1: the case, taken off the case, prosecutorial misconduct, blah blah

490
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. I mean, if you've tried cases, they're

491
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Speaker 1: going to come after you because they're between a rock

492
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Speaker 1: and heartspot and they'll do anything. They'll even say their

493
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Speaker 1: own lawyer, who's swent blood, sweat and tears for them,

494
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Speaker 1: they'll say he he, she is ineffective because there's nowhere

495
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Speaker 1: else to go. So I'm not surprised at all the

496
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Speaker 1: victims lawyers are being attacked.

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Speaker 5: I'm not surprised that the victim's lawyer being attacked.

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Speaker 4: However, Nancy, let's be clear in this case, who gave

499
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Speaker 4: Diddy and his attorneys the attack is a federal district

500
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Speaker 4: court judge.

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Speaker 5: This is Judge Denise Colet.

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Speaker 10: Who plainly said that she has great concern and pause

503
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Speaker 10: in this attorney Tybrone Blackburn, because he has filed in

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Speaker 10: at least five different federal cases, some cases that have

505
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Speaker 10: insufficient and that supposedly she said that Blackburn has a

506
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Speaker 10: history of bringing these cases for social publicity to get

507
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Speaker 10: a money grab.

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Speaker 4: So that's why a federal district court judge we're talking

509
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Speaker 4: about a judge here is the one who made the

510
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Speaker 4: complaint to the Bar Committee, to the Bar Association. So

511
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Speaker 4: in terms of normally you hear about attorneys being attacked,

512
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,719
Speaker 4: judges being attacked, But when you have a judge saying

513
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Speaker 4: this about an attorney, I think we have to look

514
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Speaker 4: at it even more clearly and give it some more weight.

515
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Speaker 4: And remember this is also the same district court judge

516
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Speaker 4: in the same district where these lawsuits have been filed.

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Speaker 1: I want to be clear that the order the judges

518
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 1: filed against the alleged victims lawyer lawyer Blackburn was about

519
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: an entirely separate case. It's just bubble back up into

520
00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 1: the media consciousness because that lawyer Blackburn is also representing

521
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: some of Diddy's alleged victims. Now Judge Coates ruling happened

522
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Speaker 1: as it relates to a case about a year ago,

523
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Speaker 1: a legal malpractice lawsuit that Blackburn filed last year, and

524
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Speaker 1: he was referred to a grievance committee then for the

525
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Speaker 1: Southern District of New York. But now Bernarda everybody's talking

526
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Speaker 1: about it because he's also representing spc's alleged victims.

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Speaker 11: Yes, Tyrone Blackburn, who has huge credibility issues in that

528
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Speaker 11: Southern District, in that federal district courthouse where he's now

529
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Speaker 11: filed these two lawsuits, having to deal with Sean Puffy Colms.

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Speaker 5: It's a big issue.

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Speaker 4: If he's really looking to do what's in the best

532
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Speaker 4: entrance of his clients, of the victims of the complainants,

533
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Speaker 4: he should step aside and allow somebody else to represent

534
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Speaker 4: him because he has huge credibility issues. And while we're

535
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Speaker 4: talking about the Southern District in dot court, attorney's talk,

536
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 4: judges talk, and his credibility is on the line. You're

537
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 4: talking about this order that's been placed a year before

538
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 4: anything came out, having to deal with Puffy, and here

539
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 4: we have him at the center stage with these two laws.

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00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 5: WIT's having to deal with Sean Puffy Culms.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you know what, Bernarda Violona. You can find Bernanda

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Speaker 1: at vilonalaw dot com. BERNARDA. I don't know that I

543
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 1: agree with everything that you said, but I can tell

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Speaker 1: you this much. If these cases go in front of

545
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Speaker 1: a jury, you think the jury's going to hear from

546
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: attorney Blackbird. No, they're not. It's the alleged victim's credibility

547
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 1: that matters, not the lawyers. If the victims are telling

548
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 1: the truth, bam, the jury's not going to hear about

549
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 1: a grievance file in another case against the lawyer.

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Speaker 5: But yes, Nancy.

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Speaker 1: In the last days, new video has emerged, new footage

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Speaker 1: of the searches of Comes' home, and we're learning a

553
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: lot Pumelin and security investigators searching with drones with weapons

554
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 1: pulled automatic weapons inside comes His home. What does that

555
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 1: mean to you, Bernardo, that.

556
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Speaker 12: Whatever that probable cause affidavit stated, it's stated they it

557
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 12: gave him great pause, that whoever is inside of the

558
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 12: house is armed, that there are weapons there that law

559
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,879
Speaker 12: enforcement needs to proceed with caution for them to have

560
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,359
Speaker 12: gone through the level of having.

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Speaker 5: Armed, armed officers marshals to go to that house.

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Speaker 4: Not even that, but how about that armored vehicle that

563
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 4: pulled up to the mansion in order to execute that

564
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 4: search warrant. So I'm curious to see what isn't that

565
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 4: affidavit that allowed them to come in full force like

566
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Speaker 4: that to execute a search warrant at Ditty's home.

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Speaker 1: That is Bernardo vi Alona, correct, the former prosecutor turned

568
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:04,720
Speaker 1: defense attorney who's very familiar with the incident in ninety

569
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Speaker 1: nine when Sean Puffy Comes aka Diddy and his hitch

570
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 1: people shot up a nightclub and he and Jennifer Lopez

571
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: aka j Lo were hauleded to the police precinct. Guns

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00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: remember bang bang, And as a matter of fact, guns

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Speaker 1: were found in comes his homes. You darn't right. They're

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Speaker 1: wearing body armor and they're armed, and they're using drones.

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Speaker 1: This guy has more money than all of those agents

576
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Speaker 1: and you and me put together. I don't know what

577
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Speaker 1: kind of gun stash he's got or what's going on

578
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 1: in that home. If I were going that home on

579
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Speaker 1: a search I would be wearing a helmet and body armor. Two,

580
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Speaker 1: I would use a drone too. I mean it's not

581
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Speaker 1: in common. Barry Golden, formerly with the US Marshall Service,

582
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Speaker 1: what about it.

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Speaker 8: They did exactly what they're supposed to. That is standard

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Speaker 8: up rating procedure. You go in heavy, you go in

585
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Speaker 8: armed with body armor ready. They brought in the armored

586
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 8: vehicles just in case you don't want to pull up

587
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 8: in front of a residence and all of a sudden

588
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 8: somebody walks out and starts shooting at you. So law

589
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 8: enforcement is taking a safety approach. They go in heavy, command,

590
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Speaker 8: the control their then allegations of excessive force. I didn't

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Speaker 8: see an excessive force there. The sons were brought out,

592
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Speaker 8: they were searched, their hands were put behind their head. Okay,

593
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Speaker 8: you even saw the agents just put their hands on

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Speaker 8: one of the Sun's head and walk them backwards. And

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Speaker 8: then yes, they were handcuffed outside. Just so everybody is safe.

596
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Speaker 8: Nobody does any stupid movements, nobody reaches for anything that

597
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Speaker 8: is standard operating for procedure for law enforcement. I've done

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Speaker 8: that so many times. I can't even tell you how

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Speaker 8: many times that is done by the FBI. HSI atf

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Speaker 8: US marshals and dea. That's what they do. I didn't

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Speaker 8: see any allegation of the session force. They did it

602
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 8: by the book, okay. And yes they use drones because

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Speaker 8: when you have allegations of guns in there, let's put

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Speaker 8: somebody that non human in there to give us eyes

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00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 8: on the inside of that property. Now we know what

606
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 8: we're going into, okay, and it's clear and it's safe.

607
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 8: And now law enforcement moves in there, command and control

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Speaker 8: control that home, and now you can search the entire

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Speaker 8: house without any problems with anybody.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the last thing I want is another agent shot dead,

611
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 1: just affecting a search between various rap artists is an

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Speaker 1: ongoing feud erupting in violence. As a matter of fact.

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Speaker 1: Tokela Brandtley joining us from dailymail dot Com, sug Night

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Speaker 1: warning comes his quote life is in danger during a

615
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 1: prison call. Apparently should Night via the prison phone actually

616
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Speaker 1: does a podcast from behind bars and in that warns

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Speaker 1: Sean Puffy Comb's AKA Ditty his life is in danger.

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Speaker 1: What's that about?

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Speaker 3: Well, Shude Knight is behind bars and he was targeted

620
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 3: and eventually did end up in prison. So this is

621
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Speaker 3: just a warning to ditty that they will get you

622
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Speaker 3: if they want to get you as they did him,

623
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Speaker 3: and he's tying all these different cases to him. They're

624
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Speaker 3: tying the Tupac case to him because he does have

625
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 3: a history of guns, of drugs, of beef with these

626
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Speaker 3: other artists. So it's all culminating now in these cases

627
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Speaker 3: and these raids, and it's just a warning that he

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Speaker 3: can end up behind bars and his life is in danger.

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Speaker 1: The death Roareckers founder states quote, I tell you what, Puffy,

630
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Speaker 1: your life is in danger because you know the secrets

631
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Speaker 1: who's involved in that little secret room you guys are

632
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Speaker 1: participating in. That was from collect Call podcasts that he

633
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Speaker 1: actually records words over the phone from behind prison bars. Guys,

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Speaker 1: let's stop and remember American hero firefighter Adam Finnceth just forty,

635
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Speaker 1: the firefighter paramedic shot along with Officer Matthew Rouge and

636
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Speaker 1: Officer Paul Elmstrand. They were responding to a domestic violence call.

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Speaker 1: An Iraqi veteran finished two tours, survived by grieving wife

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Speaker 1: Tara and two children, Liam and Nora. American hero firefighter

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Speaker 1: Adam finn sth Thank you to all of our guests,

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Speaker 1: but especially to you for being with us, Nancy Gray

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Speaker 1: signing off goodbye friend,