1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to Wired to Hunt's rut Fresh Radio, bringing you 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: the latest reports from the whitetail Woods, presented by First Light, 3 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: creating proven versatile hunting apparel for the stand, saddle or blind. 4 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: First Light Go Farther, Stay Longer, and now your hosts 5 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: ca C. Smith and Tyler Jones. 6 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:24,240 Speaker 2: The country's in a holding pattern with hot weather and 7 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 2: potential bad weather depending on where you're at. 8 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 3: But if you know where the deer are, you can 9 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 3: get on them. 10 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 4: This is rot Fresh. 11 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 3: Let's go. 12 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:48,160 Speaker 4: What's going on, y'all. 13 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 2: Welcome to Refresh Radio, brought to you about First Light 14 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 2: year Casey Smith, Tyler Jones. We're interviewing deer experts from 15 00:00:55,560 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 2: around the country that know exactly what the watchailer doing 16 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 2: on your property, and they'll tell you what trees stand 17 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 2: to be in here in just a few minutes. 18 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 4: But all jokes aside. 19 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 2: I feel like we've got some pretty valuable information this week, 20 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 2: and thankful for it. 21 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 4: Tyler, you've been deer hunting as well. I have, man, 22 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 4: just tell me what you have learned about deer in 23 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 4: the past week. So I have I have. I have 24 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 4: one thing that I it was solidified as it wasn't 25 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 4: necessarily learned because I learned this in twenty twenty one. 26 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 4: I solidified a thing that I came up with a 27 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:39,199 Speaker 4: couple of years back called the thermal stall, oh and 28 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 4: the ts I think it was, which we decided that TSS, 29 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 4: which is a you know, shotgun shell is also it 30 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 4: stands for a turkey snood chooter on the way back. 31 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 4: But the thermal stall is a thing that deer do, 32 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 4: at least in a certain part of the country. I 33 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 4: have seen this happen, and I would imagine it translates 34 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 4: to many places in the country where a deer will 35 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 4: move into cover and stop and not do hardly anything 36 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 4: and not go anywhere even in the daylight of the 37 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 4: morning until the thermal action begins to start, and then 38 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 4: the deer will move into that thermal wind to betting 39 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 4: and potentially up to three quarters of a mile of 40 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 4: movement in broad daylight. But as long as they have 41 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 4: that thermal head, you know, working into their nose, they 42 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 4: feel pretty good about it. So we confirmed that that 43 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 4: was a thing that's happening right now. And I think 44 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,679 Speaker 4: it's an early season thing a lot too for a 45 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 4: couple of reasons, right because you don't have the rut. 46 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 4: Going on, the rut changes a lot of this, right. 47 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 4: And then also in the early season, we still have 48 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 4: these kind of warm days and you start to see 49 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 4: where the nights will cool off some. And I think 50 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 4: that what that means is there's a lot of thermal 51 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 4: action and also your wind will die at that time 52 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 4: as well. A lot of times, so as the as 53 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 4: the earth heats up during the morning, you see where 54 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 4: a thermal rise will start to create a wind, and 55 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 4: then you've got a windy day, and then that wind 56 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 4: as it cools off and the sun sinks lower, will 57 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 4: start to die out, and then you will find where 58 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 4: your thermal will really fall. And I think it's emphasized 59 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 4: in September and October especially. 60 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, makes sense, man, you know, I think that I've 61 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 2: seen this happen. And if you're hunting public land, it 62 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 2: gets tough because a lot of times where the deer 63 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 2: doing that at is a place you can't access. But 64 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 2: if you hunt private land, maybe you can, maybe you 65 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 2: can't because you don't have as much access because there's 66 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 2: a lot more public land a lot of times. So 67 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 2: it's I think it's what a lot of people call 68 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 2: staging areas. 69 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,119 Speaker 4: Sometimes you think about it in the evening a lot more. 70 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 4: That's probably that's probably where you know, that's probably what 71 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 4: the term means. I think a lot of people have 72 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 4: always talked about staging areas though, and more of a 73 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 4: sense of cover. Yeah, it's like, so I'm gonna stage 74 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 4: here prior to leaving out to this beanfield. And maybe 75 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 4: that's what it is. I don't know too, but it 76 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:07,119 Speaker 4: could be that that staging area these people are seeing, 77 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 4: they're just not realizing it's because of thermals. 78 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, there's there's potential there that at least I'm 79 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 2: just going to speak for my own personal experiences. I've 80 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 2: always thought about staging areas very remediately on my own 81 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 2: part and just thinking, oh, they got there too early, 82 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 2: so they're waiting until it gets dark to go out there. 83 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 2: But deer really don't do very many things unintentionally, you know, 84 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 2: They're very intentional with almost every. 85 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 4: Step they take. Pretty much only goal is to survive. 86 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, so they do weird things all the time because 87 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 2: they know to do a weird thing, right, Like they 88 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 2: just they move just a little bit just for no reason, 89 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 2: right and whatever. And so I think that there's a 90 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 2: region the reason that you have a staging area, and 91 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 2: it's probably in some senses at least because they know 92 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 2: they can stay there and get a good whiff of 93 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 2: stuff before they move out. 94 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 4: You know another thing that I should we should maybe 95 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 4: debunk a little bit here is that I think, to 96 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 4: go with your point of deer doing weird things, I 97 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 4: think when you see a buck that's old, that gets old, 98 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 4: a big buck, I think a lot of times people 99 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 4: like to be like, oh, it's an old smart buck. 100 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 4: And I think deer very instinctual, and instead of that 101 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 4: buck actually being smart, I think whatever his instincts are, 102 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 4: or whatever his personality traits are. Not to personify a deer, 103 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 4: but like you know what, I mean, his character characteristics, 104 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 4: how he thinks about, how he goes about whatever. I 105 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 4: think that those things, if he doesn't do things that 106 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 4: are similar to other deer, or if he does things 107 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 4: that are kind of odd because of his personality traits 108 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 4: or whatever you want to say, that makes him hard 109 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 4: to kill. And that's why he gets old. It's not 110 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 4: because he's a smart deer. You know, he's probably hasn't 111 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 4: like necessarily, I mean, they can definitely learn some things 112 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 4: if they have the potential to learn. Yeah, sure, but 113 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 4: it's not. It's more that I think a lot of 114 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 4: times a deer gets old is because he does weird things, 115 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 4: and he goes to weird places and he prefers weird 116 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 4: betting and stuff like that. You know, I think there's 117 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 4: definitely ability to learn. So I'm not trying to really 118 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 4: de bonk. I'm just kind of being a little bit uh, 119 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 4: you know, flip side of the court here. 120 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 2: I do think it's funny how I thought about this 121 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 2: the other day. I was watching something or listening to something. 122 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 2: Somebody said, Oh, he's just a smart old buck because 123 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:27,919 Speaker 2: he did a thing that like almost like would it 124 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 2: imply that the deer predicted there would be a guy 125 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 2: that true? Yep, that's right. And it's like that's just 126 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:36,919 Speaker 2: not how they're thinking, you know. You know, but have 127 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 2: you ever watched The Prices Right. 128 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 4: It's been a minute. 129 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, when you're sick, when you're a kid, The Prices 130 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 2: Right was on about eleven, you know, and you got 131 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 2: to watch that and there was a game on there 132 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:48,239 Speaker 2: called Plinko. 133 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 4: You're familiar to Plinko. Yeah, I feel like they dropped 134 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 4: this thing. It looks like a big old shot the 135 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 4: armored catfish, is it? No, that's that's a pleco So 136 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 4: glad you brought that up though. That was cool. 137 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 2: So plinko essentially is the representation of a bell curve 138 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 2: on an individual basis. So, but you have the ability 139 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 2: to manipulate depending on where you drop the puck. But effectively, 140 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 2: if you drop the puck right in the middle, say that, uh, 141 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 2: that figuratively is the birth of a deer. Okay, And 142 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 2: that deer that that puck is likely maybe likely isn't 143 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 2: the right word. The highest odds of that thing is 144 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 2: hitting right in the very middle. But because of the 145 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 2: bell curve principle, you'll have times whenever that's going to 146 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 2: hit way on the outside margins. 147 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 4: Okay. 148 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 2: And that's kind of what you're talking about when deer 149 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 2: characteristics A I would say the majority of deer are 150 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 2: going to have characteristics that get them killed or shot, 151 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 2: which are the same thing. 152 00:07:52,720 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 5: Sometimes. Yeah, it depends on get killed or nicked you know, 153 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 5: at an earlier age. But on these margins out here, 154 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 5: and those margins, it's not a circle ride, it's a 155 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 5: linear graph. And so in these margins you got deer 156 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 5: that survived are really old age and it's way less 157 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 5: than it is in that middle hump. Okay, And I 158 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 5: like this example because in the margins in my mind, 159 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 5: there are a deer that are living way out in 160 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 5: the middle of nowhere that are like a real secluded 161 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 5: and they get real wary because they're old and they've 162 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 5: outwitted the coyotes to time or two and they might 163 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 5: not ever see a person. 164 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 4: And then on the other end of. 165 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 2: The scale, there's a deer like we have on trail 166 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 2: camera that's six years old and lives between two neighborhoods 167 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:43,079 Speaker 2: that also has figured out a niche and maybe it's 168 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 2: not even figured out, but where his puck landed on 169 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 2: Plinko was in a spot that he gets to survive 170 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 2: to be an old age. 171 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like that deer can live, like I said, 172 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 4: between two neighborhoods and never get shot even though there's 173 00:08:54,960 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 4: people hunting around him, because like because for whatever, like okay, 174 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 4: you know how some people are like night owls and 175 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 4: some people are morning people, right, that might be the 176 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 4: characteristic that keeps him alive, Like he might be for 177 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 4: whatever reason, he might just like not be very diurnal 178 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:11,199 Speaker 4: at all. 179 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 2: Exactly it And it's not that he learned it, but 180 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 2: it's just because you know, his twin from the womb 181 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 2: maybe even was a buck that liked to daylight walk, 182 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 2: uh huh, and it got killed. And in this book 183 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 2: just because of his nature likes to not time walk. 184 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, you live. He might be warm natured, you know 185 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 4: what I mean. It's like people that like hot nature, 186 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 4: they always want the ac on, you know, Well that 187 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 4: deer just wants the nighttime ac on. You know, it 188 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 4: could be so many things, And I think that that's 189 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 4: what's cool about deer is because we will never know that, 190 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 4: like we will never actually figure deer out. And that's 191 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 4: what makes this stuff so much fun. Man. 192 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 2: Well, if your deer are warm natured, it doesn't seem 193 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 2: like it's going to be a great week for you 194 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 2: because everybody, I think most people at least talked about 195 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 2: how we have a warming trend coming up over the 196 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 2: next week. But we do have some details about how 197 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 2: you could potentially still get on deer in your neck 198 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 2: of the woods. Tyler, who do we have this week? 199 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 4: So we're gonna hear from Logan right in Wisconsin, one 200 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:06,079 Speaker 4: of the best deer hunting states of all time, potentially 201 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,439 Speaker 4: the best deer hunter of all time. Uh. And then 202 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 4: we also have Jared Mills from Iowa right down the road. 203 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 2: Uh. 204 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 4: Eli House is going to be in Alabama. He's been 205 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 4: doing some cool stuff, so we're gonna get a little 206 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 4: bit of that pre red Alabama action. And then we've 207 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 4: got Jay Gaylord from Hunter's Advantage. He's been in Oklahoma 208 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:27,559 Speaker 4: chasing the hard masked drop that's happening there and he's 209 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 4: gonna be telling us how to get on deer. All right. 210 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 4: I've got Logan right here. He's been up in Wisconsin 211 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 4: doing some hunting. Logan, what's been going on? Man? 212 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 6: Oh, it's it's been pretty good, honestly, really good, good hunting. 213 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 4: We kill good hunting. 214 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 6: Kill the buck on Friday, my girlfriend did, and I 215 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 6: just no complaints when you kill one, you know. 216 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 4: The first week in October, sure thing, dude. What's the 217 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 4: weather been like up there? 218 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 3: Up until last week? 219 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:58,439 Speaker 7: Midweek we got a cold. 220 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 6: Front that kind of pushed in. It had been like 221 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 6: eighty upper seventies, eighties, and then it dropped down to 222 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 6: sixty five last week for a couple of days and 223 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 6: we were able to sink out. 224 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 4: So that cold front was was was that why you 225 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 4: left out to hunt or is that why the deer 226 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 4: changed what they were doing and gave you a shot? 227 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 7: Well a little bit of both. 228 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 6: My girlfriend coaches high school volleyball, so her schedule is 229 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:30,199 Speaker 6: atrocious for trying to get out deer hunting, especially with 230 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:32,319 Speaker 6: a two year old kid at home. 231 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 4: And she had off Friday, Saturday. 232 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 6: Sunday that weekend, and we had planned to hunt it 233 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:43,439 Speaker 6: already and it just happened to be a cold front 234 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 6: pushing through at the same time, which was you know, 235 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 6: having sent I guess. 236 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 3: So, was that your student still doing like a bid 237 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 3: to feed thing? 238 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:53,479 Speaker 4: Yeah? 239 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 6: I would say we hunted pretty much in the bedroom 240 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 6: with a pretty good area for buff betting, especially I 241 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,199 Speaker 6: would say early October I. 242 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 4: Hunted that general area. So yeah, I mean we were 243 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 4: on top of deer. 244 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 6: We actually jumped what we assumed was the target buck 245 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 6: that we went in there to kill. And on the 246 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 6: walk in where we were in like within twenty yards 247 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 6: of where we were going to set up, and I 248 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 6: heard one sounded like a freight train getting out of there, 249 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 6: and we were pretty discouraged, but got up in the tree, 250 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 6: saw a out of deer and had this one come 251 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 6: through about six o'clock, so an hour before and illegal here. Wow, man, 252 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 6: so how did you know the bed was there? So 253 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 6: this is a I've talked to you about it before, 254 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 6: but this is a little tiny twenty acre property that 255 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,839 Speaker 6: I hunt and pretty much the whole thing is to 256 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:58,839 Speaker 6: cover and the general area in the early months, I 257 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 6: would say end of September to mid October. It seems 258 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 6: like in the past few years it's really narrowed down 259 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,199 Speaker 6: that it's where the where the bucks like to be 260 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 6: vetted within them about one hundred yard radio so where 261 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 6: we were. 262 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 4: So in the next week or so, do you think 263 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:17,319 Speaker 4: that you would still stay close to bedding or are 264 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 4: you going to start doing some more movement get you know, 265 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:21,319 Speaker 4: where you're gonna be able to, you know, get a 266 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 4: shot at them, closer to food sources and that kind 267 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 4: of thing. 268 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 6: I think. I think scrapes you're going to be killer 269 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 6: in the next week or so. Is like it's it's 270 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 6: hot today up here, and it's supposed to be pretty 271 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 6: mild for the next few days and then by the 272 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 6: weekend we're looking at another pretty good cold push with 273 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:44,679 Speaker 6: some lows in the in the upper thirties. But you 274 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:48,199 Speaker 6: know enough to enough to get them deer really really 275 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,199 Speaker 6: starting to think about it for sure? 276 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 4: Man, have you seen any scrapes opened up so far? 277 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, I would say over the So I hunted, actually 278 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 6: I got to hunt Friday with her. I hunted Saturday 279 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 6: afternoon and Sunday morning and afternoon and saw I don't know, 280 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 6: probably a dozen scrapes when I was bouncing around between 281 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 6: checking cameras and hunting. So there they started thinking about it. 282 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:12,679 Speaker 4: That's awesome, dude. So scrapes in the next week or so, 283 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 4: what do you think in the next week, based off 284 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 4: of weather or moon or anything like that, or just 285 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 4: even time and time of year, what do you think 286 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 4: the deer the buck movement will be like on a 287 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 4: scale of one to ten. 288 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 6: With the cold push, I'll give it an eight. I'm 289 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 6: a I'm a I'm a big October guy, though I 290 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 6: don't believe in no. 291 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 4: No October, little man. So Halloween, you're gonna be trick 292 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 4: or treating or you're gonna be hunting. 293 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 6: Ideally hunting, but not in not in this state. I'm 294 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 6: hoping to be tagged out in Wisconsin Halloween. 295 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 4: All right, man, So scrapes are going to be an 296 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 4: eight in the next week or so, in your opinion, Yeah, 297 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 4: up here for sure. 298 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 7: I don't know about everywhere else. 299 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Texas is gonna be different. I would, I 300 00:14:56,560 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 4: would bet you well. I appreciate the report, man, and uh, 301 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 4: maybe we'll check back in with you sometime later this year, 302 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 4: see if you're in a different state or something. 303 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. 304 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 4: Absolutely. 305 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 3: I've got Jared Mills on the phone now. 306 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 2: He's been hunting in Iowa, and uh, he actually sounds 307 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 2: like I just had some good success last night. 308 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 3: Jared, tell me, man, you shoot a big buck? 309 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 4: I did. 310 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 8: It was a good timing you and I scheduled this 311 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 8: call and then I headed to the woods and killed 312 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 8: one shortly after that, so kind of kind of cool 313 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 8: it worked out that way. 314 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 4: It's a good time to catch up. Awesome. 315 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 2: Man, tell me the next time you need a tag 316 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 2: field and we'll schedule another one. 317 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 4: You know exactly. 318 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 2: Well, you know, I know you you're a big buck killer, 319 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 2: and for you to use a tag this early in 320 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 2: the month of October, it had to be pretty special. So, uh, 321 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 2: tell me how you I guess, like, what tactic you 322 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 2: were using to target a big deer this point in 323 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 2: the month. 324 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 8: Yeah, so it was actually on my second set of 325 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 8: the season, you know here and I will open up 326 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 8: October first, and I went out the opening day, But 327 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 8: then in between then and now or then and last night, 328 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 8: I was really focusing on getting my daughter her first year, 329 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 8: which we were able to do a few days ago, 330 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 8: and then I was out of town for Buddy's wedding 331 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 8: a couple of days for a couple of days, and 332 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 8: then got back and had another cold front come through. 333 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 8: So basically I made two sits so far this year, and. 334 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 4: They have both been on the back end of a 335 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 4: cold front. 336 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 8: And to me, that's kind of key for mature year 337 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 8: in this early I would say the first half of October, 338 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 8: that's really the recipe unless you're just right on the X. 339 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 8: But to get get these deer moving in daylight, these 340 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 8: mature bucks, it takes that cold or a little bit 341 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 8: cooler than normal temperatures, I should say, to get a moving. 342 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 8: Then the other thing is just being in the right 343 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 8: spot with regards to like, you know, these mature bucks 344 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 8: are are still you know, it's it's not quite the 345 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 8: pre rut yet, so there's there's still just you know, 346 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 8: mature animals that are going to use everything in their 347 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 8: favor with their guards, you know, the wind and thermals, 348 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 8: and so last night I was on the spot that 349 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 8: one of those kind of rare scenarios where the thermals 350 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 8: and scent and terrain and everything were really good for him, 351 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:22,199 Speaker 8: but also for me in terms of how I was 352 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 8: able to get in out on on. 353 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 3: A creek ditch. 354 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 8: So it just just one of those spots where everything 355 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 8: came together. He was comfortable there, but I was still 356 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 8: able to slip in and get with him bow range. 357 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 4: That's awesome, dude. 358 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 2: So can you tell me what you mean when you 359 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 2: say the backside of a cold front? Is that a 360 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 2: specific time or is it do you just mean kind 361 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:42,880 Speaker 2: of after it's hit kind. 362 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 8: Of the first full day after it hits is usually 363 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,199 Speaker 8: I mean, that first day that it hits can be 364 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 8: really good. It just depends on when it when it 365 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 8: comes through and what the conditions are. You know, a 366 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 8: lot of times you have that first day when it's 367 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 8: coming in you have a little bit higher wind speed 368 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 8: the north or west, cooling things down, and that can 369 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:05,919 Speaker 8: be a good time too. But I've overall seen a 370 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 8: little bit more success on that first full day when 371 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 8: the you know, the pressure is up. That next day 372 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 8: the winds calm down a little bit, but it's still cooler. 373 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 8: Tempts those just I love those nights, you know, if 374 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 8: you can hear everything come in as long as you 375 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 8: don't get too light of wind that it's that it's 376 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:27,439 Speaker 8: you know, pretty variable and you get yourself in a 377 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 8: in a spot that can get you in trouble, it 378 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 8: can be killer for for this hunts just. I mean 379 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 8: you feel like you have all your senses a deer 380 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 8: or comfortable movement just because it's cooler weather. And like 381 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 8: I said, those thermal spots, if you can find a 382 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 8: spot where those light wind speeds you know, don't affect 383 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:50,120 Speaker 8: you too much because you're pulling your thermal thermals down 384 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 8: into a low spot. To me, that's as good as 385 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 8: it gets this time of year. 386 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 4: So you know, in the next I don't know, a 387 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 4: week or so, maybe as we get closer to the 388 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 4: red I know you said there really wasn't a ton 389 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:05,120 Speaker 4: of like rutting action that you're seeing. Do you think 390 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 4: things are going to pick up some or do you 391 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 4: expect it to be pretty similar to as far as 392 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 4: the dear action goes to what you've been seeing. 393 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 8: I think the only thing that's really going to hurt us, 394 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 8: and I'm kind of been kind of looking at the 395 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,439 Speaker 8: forecast here is just warmer tempts. 396 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 3: It's going to be for the next. 397 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 8: Six or seven days, it's going to be hotter than average, 398 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 8: and that that quickly subdues deer movement. But you know, 399 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 8: as far as the activity, it's going to keep ramping 400 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 8: up from the standpoint of what bucks are doing. And 401 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 8: I've seen a huge shift just in the last week 402 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 8: of mature buck activity. So this bucket I killed last night, 403 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 8: for example. You know, up until a week and a 404 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 8: half ago, maybe two weeks ago, he was very passive 405 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 8: and everything is hard to get good pictures of of me. 406 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:57,120 Speaker 8: Throughout the summer after velvet shit, it's hard to get 407 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 8: a good pictures of me. He's always walking in the background, 408 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 8: never coming into scrapes much. 409 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 4: You know I was. 410 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,679 Speaker 8: I'd watch a field of a bunch of bunch of 411 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:08,919 Speaker 8: bucks paired up sparring, and he'd be off on his 412 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 8: no no deer even look at him. He would just 413 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 8: be focused on feeding, doing his thing. You know, clearly 414 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 8: a different age class animal. But the last week and 415 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 8: a half two weeks has been a dramatic shifting activity 416 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 8: for him. He's been you know, marking just territory like 417 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 8: crazy in every scrape, aggressively working at just just almost 418 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 8: a light switch and activity, uh for him and and 419 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 8: other mature bucks that I have on camera too. 420 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 3: It's it's one of my favorite. 421 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 8: Things to watch that that uptick and movement and you know, 422 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 8: territorial kind of behavior from these mature bucks. And I 423 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 8: think that'll keep ramping up, especially as we entered you know, 424 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,640 Speaker 8: mid October to the late latter half when they really 425 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 8: start looking for that first at. 426 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's the time that we get really excited about. 427 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 2: So for right now at least looking forward for the 428 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 2: next week, you know, it seems like across the country 429 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 2: that the crops are coming out a little bit early, 430 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 2: but we do have these warmer temps coming up as well, 431 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 2: you know, kind of like that you know, late warm movement. 432 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 2: What do you think you're going to rate the the 433 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 2: buck movement on a scale of one to ten for 434 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,880 Speaker 2: the next week. 435 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 3: I think daylight movement. 436 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 8: I think it's going to be relatively slow, you know, 437 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 8: all trying to go with like a five. But activity 438 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 8: in general, except I think a lot of it will 439 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 8: be nighttime, but I think we're going to keep seeing 440 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 8: these bucks move around a little bit. They're just gonna 441 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 8: wait till cooler temps and that's usually you know, after 442 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 8: dark or or early mornings too. I see a lot 443 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 8: of morning activity out of bucks this time of year. 444 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 8: The problem is, most of the time the risk isn't 445 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 8: worth worth it, you know, trying to get in there 446 00:21:56,560 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 8: before them. It's just just tough to get in mornings 447 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 8: this time of year. But if you have a spot, 448 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 8: it works. I do see a lot more movement, daylight 449 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 8: movement in the mornings as opposed to the evenings this 450 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 8: time of year, just because of the temperature. 451 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, makes sense, man, Well, very cool stuff. 452 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 2: Do you. Congrats on the buck. Can't wait to see 453 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 2: it on YouTube. And I hope you have a good 454 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 2: rest of the season. 455 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you. I appreciate it. 456 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,679 Speaker 4: All right. We're talking to Eli House. He's out in 457 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 4: Alabama and he's been doing some deer hunting with traditional equipment. 458 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 8: How's that been going, Man, it's been going great. Just 459 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 8: kicking off the season. Excited for the rest of it. 460 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, did you have some success recently you want to 461 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 4: talk about? 462 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 7: I did yesterday evening. 463 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 8: Man, I just got into traditional archery, which I'm hunting 464 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 8: to the recurve. Just got into it this year and 465 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 8: had some some sick success yesterday eating on my first 466 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:09,640 Speaker 8: year with a recurve and ended up being a book. 467 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 4: So man, that's awesome, dude. I had a recurve that 468 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,239 Speaker 4: my dad bought me a while back for Christmas. One 469 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 4: year is awesome, Martin. And I was getting to shooting learning, 470 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,640 Speaker 4: you know, trying to learn best I could. About two 471 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 4: years ago a shooting live on Instagram and the boat 472 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:29,679 Speaker 4: blew up, and so I'm not doing the recurve thing anymore. 473 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 4: So kudos to you for not blowing your bow up 474 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 4: and for shooting on with it. I'm sure you had 475 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 4: to get pretty close. Huh. Yeah, man, you have to 476 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 4: get rid of close. 477 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 8: I mean, I don't really trust myself at a long 478 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 8: distance like you know some people would. 479 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 4: Sure how close was that buck? 480 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 3: He was right at ten yards? 481 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 4: Ten or eleven yard? So sorry, the computer's made a 482 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 4: much noise. I'm gonna do edit here. Things are going wild. 483 00:23:55,200 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 2: Okay, all right back on it. Uh, okay, here we go, 484 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 2: Sorry about that, here we go. So your strategy has 485 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 2: to be to be real tight on the deer if 486 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 2: you use traditional stuff. Right, So it's super early season 487 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 2: in Alabama, I would say right, because I mean you're 488 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,439 Speaker 2: looking at like December type rup dates. 489 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 3: So what are those deer doing right now? 490 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 4: Right now? 491 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 8: Our acorn crop is not good this year, So they're 492 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 8: looking for grains, they're looking for field edges, they're looking 493 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 8: for corn, any acorns they can find, whatever kind of 494 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 8: food source they can get on, they're going to be there. 495 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 2: So are you targeting like private agg fields and kind 496 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 2: of sitting up between bedd and food Basically? 497 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 8: Yes, I've got a piece of private that one of 498 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 8: my buddies lets me hunt on that is just basically 499 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 8: pastor land. He runs cows on it, and it's got 500 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,959 Speaker 8: some you know, thick pine ridges running out around it, 501 00:24:58,080 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 8: and I try to get in between them and the 502 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 8: in the pasture land and on some of the field 503 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 8: edges of the pastors. I have some food plots that 504 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 8: I put in with just you know, five or six 505 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 8: way blends whatever and anything to kind of try to 506 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 8: attract deer. 507 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 3: How are you keeping the cows out of that food plot? 508 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 4: Oh? 509 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 8: Well, he's only got cows on certain certain pieces of 510 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 8: the property, so thankfully they're not back there, you know, 511 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 8: destroying it and keeping everything ate down. 512 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 4: Yeah for sure. 513 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 2: So did you have you know, eyes on deer or 514 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 2: did you go in blind or pre scout this or 515 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 2: how did you figure out, you know, kind of how 516 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 2: to get in between them. 517 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 4: Yeah. 518 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 8: So I've hunted the property for three or four years. 519 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 8: I actually took my biggest deer ever off of the 520 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 8: property two years ago with my rifle. So I've kind 521 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,880 Speaker 8: of learned how what the deer do and what days 522 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,679 Speaker 8: you know, certain bucks you can pattern to certain days, 523 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 8: and what the pressure I've learned, and I don't know 524 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 8: if it plays any part in it, but I've kind 525 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 8: of went off pressure this year, Like on the high 526 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 8: pressure days early season, I tend to see more deer 527 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 8: and I run a cell cam too on it, so 528 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 8: I kind of that helps you a lot, keeping up 529 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,479 Speaker 8: with you know, what wind direction he's coming in on, 530 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 8: what the pressure is that day, what time all that. 531 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 4: So sure, So next week or so is what's the 532 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 4: barometric pressure gonna gonna look like? Good or bad? 533 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,160 Speaker 8: It's supposed to supposed to be in the thirties after 534 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 8: tomorrow tonight. 535 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 7: It's supposed to get down. 536 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 8: It's been like high eighties every day on lows in 537 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 8: like the mid sixties. But this next week it's supposed 538 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,439 Speaker 8: to get down low fifties and a few days in 539 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 8: the upper forties. So I'm supposed to be high pressure 540 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 8: and I'm excited about it. It's the first cold front 541 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,360 Speaker 8: of the year. Season just opened, so I figure it's 542 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 8: going to get pretty good. 543 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, what what what do you think you'll be doing 544 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 4: if you're trying to target a buck in the next 545 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 4: week or so. What's the key? Is it going to 546 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 4: be similar to what you're doing or something different? 547 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 8: It's probably going to be pretty similar. It's still early season. 548 00:26:56,760 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 8: Come come rut or really right there, beginning of November, 549 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,159 Speaker 8: I'll start hitting some public and going and searching for 550 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 8: a monster. 551 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 2: If you end up with a frost pretty soon, does 552 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 2: that kind of change the way those food plots work? 553 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 8: Oh yeah, I like to I like to frost seed 554 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 8: some of my food plots with like clover and that 555 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 8: that tends to work pretty well. 556 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 4: Or either or either you know, cut it down. 557 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 8: As soon as that first hit frost hits a clover patch, 558 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 8: the deer hammer. 559 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 2: It really yep, interesting, gotcha? So there's even some tactic 560 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 2: as to what the plant and when to do it 561 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:36,439 Speaker 2: for what they're going to hit. 562 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. 563 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 2: So whenever you talking about transition to this public stuff 564 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 2: here pretty soon, are you trying to make adjustments to 565 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 2: the way people are using the properties or you still 566 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 2: like just looking for regular bed to feed stuff. 567 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,959 Speaker 8: I will when when I make my transition to public 568 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,400 Speaker 8: I'm looking that's when I start hunting signs, scrapes, funnels, 569 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 8: stuff like that. Even before I rut every hits, those 570 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 8: bucks are still gonna be up on their food or 571 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 8: on their foot or on their feet sorry, checking for 572 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 8: you know, who's hitting, what's great and what buck's doing what, 573 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 8: whether they're on the dose yet or not? 574 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, got you cool. 575 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 2: So if you're looking at the next week here, you know, 576 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 2: there's a there's a big system in the Gulf. I 577 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:19,679 Speaker 2: don't know if it's gonna bring you any moisture, but 578 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 2: it might actually, you know, kind of give you some 579 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 2: weird wind directions I would imagine for normal Right, and 580 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 2: then you calculate that in with just the kind of 581 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 2: those cool temperatures that you said are on the way. 582 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 2: How do you expect the dear move it's going to 583 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 2: be on a scale of one to ten over the 584 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 2: next week. 585 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 4: Man. 586 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 8: With the cooler weather, I expected to be on a 587 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 8: scale of one to ten around the six or seven, 588 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 8: to be honest, compared to what they've been doing, you know, 589 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 8: mainly night time movement. It being as hot as it 590 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 8: has been. I don't think the hurricane is going to 591 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 8: have too much of an effect on them. But I could 592 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 8: be completely wrong, but I figure it's going to be 593 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 8: on a on a six or seven. 594 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 4: That's good, man, It's it's going to get pretty good. 595 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 4: So picking up into maybe a seven in Alabama this 596 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 4: week coming up. 597 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 8: Man. 598 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 4: I appreciate the report, Eli, and I hope you get 599 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 4: to shoot a bunch of more deer this year. I 600 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 4: hope so too. Man. 601 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 2: I've got Jake gay Lord with Hunter's Advantage on the 602 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 2: phone right now. He has been doing some hunting up 603 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 2: in Oklahoma. What's happening, dude, Oh? 604 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 7: Not a lot, not a lot. What's been going on 605 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 7: with you guys? 606 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 2: Well, right now, we're just all laughing and having a 607 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 2: good time in East Texas. 608 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 3: But we've been doing some hunting here and there and everywhere, 609 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 3: you know. 610 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 2: But it is that time of year when we're all 611 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,479 Speaker 2: thinking about deer, and quite honestly, a lot of us 612 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 2: are getting overly enthusiastic about what's going on in the 613 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 2: deer woods because we're ready, we're itching to get out. 614 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 3: And you have been out right and there in Oklahoma. 615 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 9: Yep, yep, yep. 616 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 4: Yeah. 617 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 3: So are you seeing good deer movement currently? 618 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 9: Well, if you looked on any Oklahoma hunting pages, you 619 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 9: would think the deer movement is outstanding. But where I've 620 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 9: been hunting, you know, we kind of hunt the more 621 00:29:55,080 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 9: mountainous regions of Oklahoma and you know, generally in the state, 622 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 9: like it has lower deer density and so you kind 623 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 9: of expect not to see that many deer and it's 624 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 9: kind of a quality over quantity situation. But that's just 625 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 9: kind of where we hunt, where we like to stick with. 626 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 9: But long story short, you know, the movement hasn't been 627 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 9: too good. It's kind of been in the nineties towards 628 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 9: the evening and you know, the mosquito really love. 629 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 4: It, but you're not some of it, yeah for sure. 630 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 2: So since you're you know, doing a lot of that 631 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 2: mountain hunting, I'm sure that you got acorns on the brain. 632 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 2: And that's kind of how a lot of that stuff 633 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 2: rotates this year, this time of year, right, you're just 634 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 2: looking for hot feed or what are you doing up there? 635 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 4: Exactly? 636 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 9: Yeah, So down there, it's kind of like monotonous pines, 637 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 9: and every now and then you get those those nice 638 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 9: little oak flats and it can kind of almost get 639 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 9: a little overwhelming trying to find, you know, that particular 640 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 9: feed tree or however you want to. 641 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 7: Go about it. 642 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 9: But it's what we like to do is it's kind 643 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 9: of the bed to food pattern. I guess simplified, that's 644 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 9: what it is. But we tend to hug up more 645 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 9: towards the bedding on where we think they're all betting 646 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 9: at and try to cut them off between like that 647 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 9: oak flat and maybe that five six year old clear 648 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 9: cut that is now all overgrown. And that's that's kind 649 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 9: of where we seems like they can bet anywhere, but 650 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 9: that's kind of where we'd like to pinpoint them. 651 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 4: I hate to give away, you know, high quality info, 652 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 4: but have you ever killed one on a pine cone pattern? 653 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 4: I have not. I have not. I don't think so. 654 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 4: So you don't think they hate those things? 655 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 7: I haven't. I haven't really thought about that too. 656 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 4: Okay, I'm just making sure you know acorns are in 657 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 4: a pine piney wood scenario or the thing you should 658 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 4: be looking for. 659 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 9: But in all, honestly, as an Oklahoma and you know, 660 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 9: we're forty eighths in education here, I think so. 661 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 4: That's good honesty there. 662 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 8: Man. 663 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 4: We can trust this report, we know. So okay, so 664 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 4: what about does does moon or weather affect you coming 665 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 4: up or you're looking at any of that stuff? 666 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 7: Man, I think this is where the hate's going to 667 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 7: come in. 668 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 9: But I don't really pay any attention to anything other 669 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 9: than the winds particularly, and you know down there you 670 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 9: get in those bowls and it's swirling, and so we 671 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 9: have a thing where it's like if you're hunting the 672 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 9: wrong spot and the wrong wind, you just you know, 673 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 9: do a one eighty in your tree standing there the 674 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 9: other way. 675 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, I've heard Christians say that it's funny. You know 676 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 4: what about uh what about like scrapes or anything? Is 677 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 4: that something you're thinking about sometime soon? 678 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 7: Oh yeah, yeah, we'll go. 679 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 9: In, uh look for that sign, whether that be scrapes 680 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 9: or rubs and down we had. It's kind of it's 681 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 9: kind of hit and miss. You don't see as much 682 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 9: sign as you do. Like normally it's you know, it's 683 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 9: not an ag an ag spot by no means. It 684 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 9: seems like we grow rocks more times than not. But 685 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,239 Speaker 9: so it's kind of harder to see the sign. But 686 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 9: that's kind of what we look for. Is every now 687 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 9: and then, down those old two tracks, you'll see some 688 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 9: pretty good uh scrapes or rubs, and you kind of 689 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 9: just hunt off those. 690 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 7: Is how we like to narrow down those areas. 691 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 2: So here in mid October, you're actually moving around and 692 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 2: doing a lot of d season scouting. 693 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 4: You're not kind of sitting out and just observing. 694 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 2: Uh. 695 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,479 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's that's typically what we like to do. 696 00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 9: We like to bounce around in October to kind of 697 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 9: narrow down the spots for where we want to sit, 698 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 9: you know, come November when the movement's actually really good 699 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 9: and we're we're actually smarter than the deer for once. 700 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's it's hard to do sometimes, man, especially 701 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 4: in Oklahoma. But I actually don't know how smart the 702 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 4: deer are in Oklahoma, but the people is what I 703 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 4: was referring to. Right. Yeah, one way, So in the 704 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 4: next week or so, are you gonna are you going 705 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 4: to kind of employ the same patterns here or are 706 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 4: you gonna do you expect anything to change in the 707 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 4: way you hunt or in the kind of actions of 708 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 4: the deer. 709 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 9: I mean, So next week we're suposed to get a 710 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 9: pretty good little cold front coming through, right So it's 711 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 9: been in the nineties, and I think starting Monday or 712 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 9: Tuesday it's supposed to be high as sixties and like 713 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 9: lower forties. 714 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 7: So that's going to be pretty darn nice. So and 715 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 7: all that'll do is just keep me on my feet 716 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 7: a little. 717 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 9: Bit longer to walk to the next spot, you know, 718 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 9: report gets too hot and I'm just tired and shoving 719 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 9: up a tree right there. Yeah, yeah, kind of on 720 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 9: that same pattern, you know, try to find those oak 721 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 9: flats and look for sign and basically just try to 722 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 9: find the most you know, the most diversity all in 723 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 9: one spot that also has that that good betting around. 724 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, and that's good. That's a good tip man 725 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 4: for that kind of a lot of people. That's relatable, 726 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 4: you know, find diversity. So in the next week, with 727 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 4: some colder temps coming in, but similar action as far 728 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:17,400 Speaker 4: as deer go, Uh, is this going to be you know, 729 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 4: on a scale of one to ten. Is this going 730 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 4: to be a good report or bad report? What number 731 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 4: were we looking at here? Uh? 732 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 7: Man, I want to keep it honest. 733 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 9: I mean, just specifically for where we hunt, it's probably 734 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,360 Speaker 9: going to be a probably a three or four. With 735 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,439 Speaker 9: the colder temperatures, you know, it could turn into a five, 736 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 9: but we'll just make it a median number and go 737 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 9: with four. 738 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 7: How about that. 739 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:38,760 Speaker 4: I like it, man. It's kind of like the opposite 740 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,799 Speaker 4: of a Midwest six. It works, that's real realistic. I 741 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 4: appreciate that too. 742 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,359 Speaker 2: You know, like everybody's so enthusiastic this time of year, 743 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 2: but man, guys, it's not November tenth, right, So it's 744 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 2: just you know, take take a. 745 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 3: Breath and realize what we're working with. 746 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 2: But you can kill deer on you know, days that 747 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 2: are ranked a point five, you know, if you know 748 00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 2: what you're doing. So Jake, appreciate the good, honest report, man, 749 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:01,840 Speaker 2: and I hope you have a great season. 750 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 7: Hey, I appreciate y'all having me. 751 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 9: And one last thing, if I could say real quick, 752 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 9: I know, as hunters, we all like to hunt and 753 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:12,799 Speaker 9: stuff like that, and we focus on those record book books, 754 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:14,720 Speaker 9: whether that be Pope and Young or Boone and Crockett. 755 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 9: But you know, I think we need to take that 756 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 9: back and focus on that good book and keep God 757 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:19,799 Speaker 9: first of the season. 758 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:24,320 Speaker 2: Absolutely, brother, Thanks for that. Yeah, I really enjoyed this 759 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,399 Speaker 2: week's reports, and I think it's because we actually had 760 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 2: some realistic numbers and it there are some unrealistic ones too, 761 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:35,360 Speaker 2: but I appreciate the optimism from the unrealistic, guys. I 762 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 2: also appreciate the realism from the true numbers of Like, hey, guys, 763 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,240 Speaker 2: it's still early the October, right, but it's all fun 764 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 2: either way. 765 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:46,759 Speaker 4: Guys. A great thing go. 766 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 2: Check out right now is our friend Mark Kenyon had 767 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 2: a pretty epic hunt for dear he called the wine 768 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 2: wide nine, which happened to not be a nine point. 769 00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,319 Speaker 2: The only way you're going to figure out how that 770 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,720 Speaker 2: happened to go is to go check out that video 771 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 2: that we have posted a link below. And then also 772 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 2: I barely owned. Tyler Jones had a hunt for the 773 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 2: wide and massive and gigantic ten in Kansas as well 774 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 2: last year, and that hunt just went live on the 775 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 2: Element channel. 776 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 4: If you can hang a ring on it, he was 777 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 4: an eleven, you know, actually he broke a brow times. 778 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 8: And how about that that's true. 779 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 3: You know, I always look at deer just for what 780 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:27,759 Speaker 3: their frame is. 781 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 4: Like. 782 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,319 Speaker 3: If a deer is missing brow times, I don't count. 783 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:32,400 Speaker 3: He's still an eight to me. 784 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just eight without browse, which is weird, right. 785 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 2: Deer math is a strange thing. It's kind of like 786 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 2: chicken math, a girl math, all that stuff weird. But 787 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,879 Speaker 2: Tyler puts one of the best shots I've ever seen 788 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:44,799 Speaker 2: a person put on a deer. 789 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 4: On this deer uh and uh, it's just epic footage. 790 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:48,239 Speaker 1: Go check it out. 791 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 2: If you haven't, we'd really appreciate that. Guys, it's time 792 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 2: to get out and go hunting. Take it easy, you know, 793 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 2: don't do anything too crazy, you know, make an observation, 794 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,239 Speaker 2: sit or whatever. But if you got the high anchor 795 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 2: and just get out there in a big mix of 796 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:02,400 Speaker 2: maybe you'll kill it. 797 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:02,799 Speaker 4: And I don't know. 798 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 2: We've talked to a couple guys this week that absolutely 799 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 2: we're finding a way to have. 800 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 4: Some success and you can do it too. 801 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 2: This is rut fresh, Keep it fresh.