WEBVTT - Jets-Patriots Game Preview (12/28) 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:05.800 Like game on the world. You played to win the 0:00:05.880 --> 0:00:18.800 games a Jet touchdown. You're listening to the Official Jets 0:00:18.800 --> 0:00:26.760 podcast Jets three sixty production. The end of the regular 0:00:26.800 --> 0:00:30.639 season is near. Ethan Greenberg and Eric Allen here in 0:00:30.720 --> 0:00:34.400 studio for the final time, bringing you the Jets Official 0:00:34.479 --> 0:00:37.800 Podcast game preview. Let me tell you something, Oh tell 0:00:37.840 --> 0:00:40.160 me tell me. I have no problem with the good 0:00:40.159 --> 0:00:43.240 people of New England. With that being said, I can't 0:00:43.280 --> 0:00:46.720 wait to get home the Jets Patriots at Gillette Stadium 0:00:46.720 --> 0:00:50.239 New Year's Eve, but I want to spend the New 0:00:50.320 --> 0:00:54.280 year back home. Glatz Stadium is not the place where 0:00:54.320 --> 0:00:57.920 I want to end short. Yes, when the Patriots, I 0:00:57.920 --> 0:01:00.640 mean the Patriots don't really rest their players any way 0:01:00.680 --> 0:01:02.520 in previous years when they locked it up, but they 0:01:02.560 --> 0:01:05.080 still have something to play for. We are the twelve 0:01:05.120 --> 0:01:08.720 and three. I think someone said that this is the 0:01:08.800 --> 0:01:12.280 eighth consecutive year in which the Patriots have won twelve 0:01:12.480 --> 0:01:15.800 or more games. Very impressive. There are any call is 0:01:15.800 --> 0:01:18.039 gonna go against the New England Patriots. I don't know. 0:01:18.080 --> 0:01:19.760 That's a good question. That's a wait and see games. 0:01:19.800 --> 0:01:21.839 So we're in the press box on Sunday. I'm looking 0:01:21.920 --> 0:01:24.960 up it sure look like Buffalo Bills wide receiver Televin 0:01:24.959 --> 0:01:28.160 Benjamin had a touchdown, but that was overrolled and Jets 0:01:28.160 --> 0:01:31.360 fans know a thing or two about that, But I digress. 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:34.160 And Steelers fans know a thing or two about that 0:01:34.200 --> 0:01:36.760 as well from the previous week. But we're not here 0:01:36.760 --> 0:01:40.240 to talk about Patriots, the Steelers, the Bills. We're here 0:01:40.280 --> 0:01:42.880 to talk about the New York Jets. E A. When 0:01:42.880 --> 0:01:45.800 you take a second and and look back and almost 0:01:45.800 --> 0:01:49.520 reflect on this season, It's been a very interesting season 0:01:49.560 --> 0:01:51.960 for me because I think if you're a fan, you know, 0:01:52.160 --> 0:01:56.640 expectations from the outside we're not high, and early on 0:01:56.720 --> 0:01:59.840 in the season this team exceeded those expectations. I still 0:02:00.000 --> 0:02:02.240 think they exceeded those expectations. But when you look at 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:05.680 the next level, there's a lot of reason for Jets 0:02:05.680 --> 0:02:08.359 fans to be excited moving forward. Well, I think externally 0:02:08.400 --> 0:02:11.720 the expectations were very low. I don't think the expectations 0:02:11.720 --> 0:02:15.440 were low inside this building. Remember the Jets, after recovering 0:02:15.480 --> 0:02:17.560 from an only too start, they won three in a row, 0:02:17.840 --> 0:02:20.960 number three and two, and uh, you know, unfortunately for 0:02:21.000 --> 0:02:24.800 the Green and White, Josh McCown went down in Denver, 0:02:24.960 --> 0:02:28.160 and right now they're five and time. Last year, um, 0:02:28.200 --> 0:02:30.560 they finished up with a five and eleven record, and 0:02:30.600 --> 0:02:32.840 even if they lose to the Patriots this Sunday, this 0:02:32.919 --> 0:02:37.959 is this season has a completely different feel. I think 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:41.840 the Jets are building something here. Chemistry and culture are 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:45.720 very important in the National Football League. Can't win without 0:02:45.760 --> 0:02:48.720 those two things, and we've seen that from the Jets 0:02:48.760 --> 0:02:53.120 throughout this season. Again last Sunday against the l A Chargers, 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:55.640 who will remain in the playoff race. The Jets were 0:02:55.639 --> 0:02:57.440 in that ball game to the very end. I think 0:02:57.520 --> 0:03:01.520 they proved an even beggar point green and the loss 0:03:01.560 --> 0:03:04.560 against the New Orleans Saints where they went in there, 0:03:04.600 --> 0:03:07.920 they forced three takeaways. It was twenty four nineteen in 0:03:07.960 --> 0:03:12.400 the final moments. The Jets can play with anybody, including 0:03:13.040 --> 0:03:15.600 they forementioned New England Patriots. The next step for them 0:03:15.600 --> 0:03:19.160 in two thousand and eighteen is winning a few of 0:03:19.160 --> 0:03:21.600 those games that went the other way. The Jets wrapped 0:03:21.720 --> 0:03:24.880 up there four and four slate at MetLife Stadium. There 0:03:24.960 --> 0:03:28.120 was an average of seven points that they lost by 0:03:28.160 --> 0:03:33.840 at MetLife Stadium. Yeah, yeah, they're those all one score games, right. 0:03:33.880 --> 0:03:36.720 If you look back Carolina in Atlanta on New England 0:03:37.240 --> 0:03:40.080 and in l A and all four of which have 0:03:40.240 --> 0:03:44.320 the potential to be playoff teams, and the Jets have 0:03:44.400 --> 0:03:46.640 played very well at home. We talked about this, but 0:03:46.880 --> 0:03:50.840 and you just mentioned that that moving forward, Um, this 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:53.400 team really sets something. And I think you can see that. 0:03:53.760 --> 0:03:56.600 And obviously you don't want to think in these terms, 0:03:56.640 --> 0:04:00.000 but I think it's a different ballgame in New Orleans 0:04:00.000 --> 0:04:03.600 and at home last weekend if McCown is playing and 0:04:03.680 --> 0:04:07.880 he's healthy, because the offense was clicking on all cylinders 0:04:07.880 --> 0:04:09.600 at the time he went down the or the week 0:04:09.640 --> 0:04:13.920 before he went Deny the anomaly of the season. Yeah, 0:04:13.920 --> 0:04:15.680 I agree with that. I think the Denver game was 0:04:15.720 --> 0:04:18.560 the Jets worst performance. I think you ask anybody inside 0:04:18.560 --> 0:04:20.600 the building, they do all like all those sentiments. With 0:04:20.640 --> 0:04:24.280 that being said, McCown was tremendous this season for the 0:04:24.360 --> 0:04:29.840 Jet sixties seven percent past or amassed twenty three touchdowns. Uh. 0:04:29.880 --> 0:04:32.440 He was a leader in the locker room. Uh. Bryce 0:04:32.480 --> 0:04:35.800 Patty is making good plays at times and then at 0:04:35.839 --> 0:04:39.120 times he's missing throws and you feel his frustration. We 0:04:39.160 --> 0:04:42.080 saw that Sunday in the postgame news conference. You know, Yeah, 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:44.680 it's frustrating, it's it's it's really frustrating. I think that 0:04:45.440 --> 0:04:48.599 um mentally, I know exactly where I want to go 0:04:48.600 --> 0:04:50.680 with the ball and and it's just my my feet 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:54.240 are are faster. Um, they're not as relaxed as my mind. 0:04:54.279 --> 0:04:55.839 Is that that makes sense? So you know his team 0:04:55.920 --> 0:04:58.040 is there's better as offenses, there's better and and I 0:04:58.080 --> 0:05:01.000 know I can make those plays. And so um, you 0:05:01.080 --> 0:05:03.040 know we got next week and uh, you know I'm 0:05:03.080 --> 0:05:05.240 gonna grow from this, learn from this, um just like 0:05:05.320 --> 0:05:08.360 always do and and takes positive with the positive and 0:05:08.800 --> 0:05:10.560 and and work on the things that I need to 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:12.320 work on them. And what makes it tough is that 0:05:12.720 --> 0:05:15.480 Petty prepares hard. He's not a guy just comes in 0:05:15.760 --> 0:05:19.800 and you know, punches his time card in and out. 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:22.560 He's a guy who it means so much to him 0:05:22.720 --> 0:05:26.000 right now. So I'd really like, from a personal standpoint 0:05:26.080 --> 0:05:29.000 and from an organizational standpoint, I'd like for him to 0:05:29.080 --> 0:05:31.760 go out and play well against the New England Patriots. 0:05:32.040 --> 0:05:34.640 Let's go down in Kentucky and bring in Chad Pennington. Chad, 0:05:34.720 --> 0:05:38.160 did you have a nice, warm Christmas down self? Wonderful 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:41.160 Christmas farek Carol when you really enjoyed it? Um, Well, 0:05:41.200 --> 0:05:43.120 We've had a lot of fun, and I have some 0:05:43.279 --> 0:05:48.000 family in going good more family, so always good, wonderful 0:05:48.360 --> 0:05:52.480 well wishes to you and everybody down there, of course, 0:05:52.640 --> 0:05:55.839 and Robin and the boys. Let's start off right here, 0:05:56.000 --> 0:06:00.839 big picture, How difficult week is this for Todd bullis 0:06:00.920 --> 0:06:05.080 to prepare his guys knowing that, hey, listen, the end 0:06:05.480 --> 0:06:08.080 is only a few days away. You're out of playoff 0:06:08.240 --> 0:06:11.480 contention and you're going in there and playing the Patriots. 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:16.200 This week reminds me Eric of two thousand and three 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:18.960 or six and nine and going down to Miami with 0:06:19.120 --> 0:06:22.280 no playoff implications at all. And I remember talking to 0:06:22.400 --> 0:06:25.440 the team that day before we walked out on the field, 0:06:25.520 --> 0:06:29.320 and really, what this week bulls down to, uh, has 0:06:29.440 --> 0:06:32.160 nothing to do with football. Um. It has to do 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:35.800 with you as an individual man and and taking pride 0:06:35.839 --> 0:06:38.160 in your craft and plane and what you put out 0:06:38.200 --> 0:06:40.840 there on film, and playing with each other and enjoying 0:06:40.920 --> 0:06:43.160 playing the game of football and trying to get a win. 0:06:43.279 --> 0:06:45.600 That's what it bulls down to. So that's that's what 0:06:45.720 --> 0:06:47.400 you gotta do. Going on the road, is trying to 0:06:47.720 --> 0:06:49.520 eke out of victory and feel good about to work 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:51.800 you put in brace potty much of the same and 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:54.920 start to as you saw in New Orleans. Uh, this 0:06:55.120 --> 0:06:57.679 past game against the Chargers, what do you think, Because 0:06:58.080 --> 0:07:00.240 I was watching the game from the press box here 0:07:00.279 --> 0:07:03.240 with Green's at my Life Stadium, I thought to myself, 0:07:03.880 --> 0:07:07.680 there's a few passes again where Chad is going to say, 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:10.360 those are gimmes. Those are passes you have to make 0:07:10.400 --> 0:07:14.360 in a national football league. There's no questions. Uh, there's 0:07:14.400 --> 0:07:18.400 four to six passes there that. Um, those passes are completed. 0:07:18.440 --> 0:07:21.680 And we're not talking about passes that are high level 0:07:22.600 --> 0:07:25.400 passes or reads or big time plays that have to 0:07:25.440 --> 0:07:28.280 be made by the receiver. Just simple, not easy, but 0:07:28.440 --> 0:07:33.600 simple completions to be made that certainly make the road 0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:36.600 to scoring a little bit easier for your offense. Extend 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:40.160 drives give you some breathing room. And then I thought, 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:41.800 at the end of the game, you know, there was 0:07:41.840 --> 0:07:44.040 a chance to get Robby Anderson on the back shoulder. 0:07:44.080 --> 0:07:47.560 There where possible tie touchdown there at the end of 0:07:47.600 --> 0:07:51.000 the game. So I did like Bryce with his mobility 0:07:51.120 --> 0:07:53.200 being able to move out of pockets and times, UM, 0:07:53.560 --> 0:07:55.800 I would like to see him recognize that a little 0:07:55.800 --> 0:07:59.560 bit earlier before the pocket completely collapses on him. To 0:07:59.640 --> 0:08:01.600 be able to get out when you know there's not 0:08:01.800 --> 0:08:04.640 much there um and then just be able to hit 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:07.440 those simple passes. I think you know, for the most part, 0:08:07.520 --> 0:08:10.520 it looked like the reads were pretty consistent. But it's 0:08:10.560 --> 0:08:12.880 just about being able to execute all the way through 0:08:12.960 --> 0:08:15.120 to the completion real quick. Where does that ball have 0:08:15.240 --> 0:08:18.600 to go? Judge Trail in fourteen seven fourth down, you're 0:08:18.720 --> 0:08:21.280 saying and Bryce side and after the game that that's 0:08:21.280 --> 0:08:25.280 a pass. He's got a hit, Robbie Anderson, Where and 0:08:25.520 --> 0:08:29.640 when does that ball have to go? I thought the 0:08:29.720 --> 0:08:32.800 timing of the throw and the read was correct. Uh, 0:08:32.960 --> 0:08:36.280 the defensive back was about two yards on top of Robbie, 0:08:36.400 --> 0:08:38.959 So Robbie knew in his mind that it needed to 0:08:39.000 --> 0:08:42.160 be a back shoulder throw, and so it could almost 0:08:42.240 --> 0:08:44.439 be one of those throws where he actually stopped Robbie 0:08:44.480 --> 0:08:47.400 in his tracks. He catches it and then he gets 0:08:47.440 --> 0:08:50.320 the first down, or he leaps into the end zone, 0:08:50.320 --> 0:08:52.679 dives in the enzone for a touchdown. But it's it's 0:08:52.720 --> 0:08:55.120 certainly what we call a back shoulder throw, meaning you 0:08:55.200 --> 0:08:56.959 put it to the sideline, you put it on his 0:08:57.559 --> 0:09:00.319 shoulder closest to you, not his upfield shall order, but 0:09:00.400 --> 0:09:03.400 his backfield shoulder being able to stop him let him 0:09:03.440 --> 0:09:06.319 make it. Because the defensive back had his eyes turned 0:09:06.360 --> 0:09:08.800 towards Robbie, he could not see the throw being made 0:09:08.840 --> 0:09:11.400 at all by Bryce. And so the last place you 0:09:11.440 --> 0:09:14.079 want to put that is low and away inside where 0:09:14.080 --> 0:09:16.199 your receiver doesn't have a chance to catch it. What 0:09:16.320 --> 0:09:19.600 do you like about the performance from the Jets defense 0:09:19.679 --> 0:09:23.640 that held the number seven ranks overall offense only fourteen points. 0:09:25.080 --> 0:09:29.920 I thought the defensive play um was close to being outstanding. 0:09:30.080 --> 0:09:32.600 I thought if we had the nick picked the defense 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:34.439 a little bit, I would say that there were a 0:09:34.520 --> 0:09:36.719 couple of explosion plays that they would like to have 0:09:36.880 --> 0:09:41.160 back um. But what they eliminated was they eliminated uh 0:09:41.920 --> 0:09:44.120 Philip rivers and the charges of offense being able just 0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:47.000 to collect first downs and gain that momentum. They only 0:09:47.080 --> 0:09:50.040 had two drives, which were both scoring drives. But other 0:09:50.160 --> 0:09:52.400 than that, uh, they were able to get off the 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:55.199 field on third down. They kept the rivers from just 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:58.840 collecting first downs and building some rhythm and tempo. Uh 0:09:58.920 --> 0:10:01.439 it was. I thought it was a pretty good defensive 0:10:01.480 --> 0:10:04.679 performance on the Jets, no doubt about it. Anything belal 0:10:04.800 --> 0:10:09.480 Paul does anymore surprise you, not at all. I think 0:10:09.559 --> 0:10:13.640 he has become probably my favorite. Uh just watching him 0:10:13.720 --> 0:10:18.960 play with the attitude and passion how he runs football. Uh, 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:22.840 he's just he's been so stable in such a constant 0:10:22.920 --> 0:10:25.719 force for them. Uh, it's it's been nice to see him, 0:10:26.080 --> 0:10:28.160 to see him break down. I thought the offensive line 0:10:28.400 --> 0:10:30.240 did a relatively good job of controlling the line of 0:10:30.240 --> 0:10:33.480 scrimmage and creating some scenes for him. Really impressed by 0:10:33.559 --> 0:10:37.120 the center running downfield on the on the Jonathan Harrison 0:10:37.200 --> 0:10:41.680 on the yard touchdown, of being able to get out front. Unbelievable. There. 0:10:41.920 --> 0:10:44.679 You gotta you gotta love that. So Balal had hundred 0:10:44.720 --> 0:10:47.400 forty five yards on nineteen carries. He's now got a 0:10:47.640 --> 0:10:51.280 season career high in terms of rushing and also rushed 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:55.400 touchdowns with five. So again, that guy continues to produce. 0:10:55.640 --> 0:10:59.400 Big picture Jamal Adams, what have you seen from him 0:10:59.480 --> 0:11:01.960 through fifth team games? What do you like and where 0:11:02.160 --> 0:11:06.040 might you have to improve? Well, let's put both of 0:11:06.080 --> 0:11:09.640 those rookies in their safeties. Just I mean to to 0:11:09.720 --> 0:11:11.559 be able to for those both of those guys to 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:15.320 come in mayn Adams and play as consistent of they 0:11:15.600 --> 0:11:19.400 as they have played as rookies. UH a lot on 0:11:19.559 --> 0:11:23.280 their play mentally, being able to transfer the mental from 0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:26.439 the chalk board in the classroom into the physical and 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:29.400 also play that mental game on the field as well. 0:11:30.000 --> 0:11:33.120 I've been really really impressed. Uh. First of all, I'm 0:11:33.160 --> 0:11:37.600 impressed with their aggressiveness. Typically, sometimes when you see younger 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:40.439 players get that action that early in the year and 0:11:40.480 --> 0:11:44.040 in their career, although they may have the ability because 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:46.640 they're thinking so much, it really slows them down and 0:11:46.720 --> 0:11:50.160 how they play. But these guys, for the most part, 0:11:50.559 --> 0:11:55.800 have played aggressive from day one. They've played fast. Although 0:11:56.040 --> 0:11:58.240 they know they're going to make mistakes, it doesn't seem 0:11:58.320 --> 0:12:00.400 to follow them as much. They just try to learn 0:12:00.520 --> 0:12:03.599 through those mistakes and play through those mistakes. And so 0:12:03.920 --> 0:12:07.760 I think, UM, from an evaluation standpoint, although I haven't 0:12:07.800 --> 0:12:10.480 just sat down and looked at them in depth, both 0:12:10.559 --> 0:12:14.520 of those rookie safeties have played extremely well. May It's 0:12:14.520 --> 0:12:17.120 been a phenomenal coming up and playing the run as 0:12:17.320 --> 0:12:21.160 as Adams. I know, UH Jamal was getting questions about 0:12:21.280 --> 0:12:24.240 getting beat by Antonio Gates. A lot of people have 0:12:24.320 --> 0:12:28.959 gotten beat by Antonio Gates throughout his career. UM, and 0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:34.600 I think in time, you're gonna see him. Maybe there 0:12:34.640 --> 0:12:36.480 were a couple of times this year where he was 0:12:36.760 --> 0:12:39.520 maybe a half to step away. Maybe maybe he's there 0:12:39.600 --> 0:12:42.839 to make those plays in the future. Well, there's no 0:12:42.960 --> 0:12:45.600 question if you look at the Gates touchdown. First of all, 0:12:45.720 --> 0:12:49.160 that was the perfect row and it was an amazing catch. 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:51.880 Even though it looked simple and easy, it really wasn't. 0:12:51.960 --> 0:12:54.000 It was exactly where the ball needed to be and 0:12:54.040 --> 0:12:57.160 the only place that could be. It was pretty decent coverage. 0:12:57.200 --> 0:13:00.400 He slightly got beat by about six inches, but when 0:13:00.440 --> 0:13:02.320 you have two Hall of Famers in Gates and rivers, 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:05.320 six inches mean the tuchdown. And so I think, um, 0:13:06.120 --> 0:13:08.760 when you look at coverage skills for safeties, that's really 0:13:08.840 --> 0:13:11.959 a craft that has learned when you're in the NFL, 0:13:12.200 --> 0:13:14.679 because the safeties really have to do a lot more 0:13:14.800 --> 0:13:17.000 one on one man demand covering and have a lot 0:13:17.120 --> 0:13:21.160 more responsibilities, uh in the NFL compared to college where 0:13:21.160 --> 0:13:23.400 they can just kind of roam free, and I have 0:13:23.520 --> 0:13:26.920 to worry about quarterbacks that really know what they're doing 0:13:27.440 --> 0:13:30.360 with their eyes and their reads. So that's something that 0:13:30.440 --> 0:13:33.839 will come through experience and repetition. That's our standing point, 0:13:33.960 --> 0:13:36.319 right there Green's Chad, What do you expect from these 0:13:36.360 --> 0:13:39.560 two safeties in the final week of the two thousand 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:42.360 seventeen season, because they've had three very tough tests and 0:13:42.480 --> 0:13:44.920 Drew Brees, Philip Rivers and now Tom Brady for the 0:13:45.000 --> 0:13:47.959 second matchup in consecutive weeks. And not only that, but 0:13:48.040 --> 0:13:50.800 what do you expect from an effort perspective from this 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:54.439 Jets team to close out the season. I think their 0:13:54.480 --> 0:13:57.640 effort will be outstanding. I have not had any problem 0:13:57.760 --> 0:14:00.880 or issue with their effort all year, and I think 0:14:00.920 --> 0:14:03.200 that as a testament to coach Bowls and his staff 0:14:03.640 --> 0:14:07.400 how they prepare this team. Regardless of the circumstances in 0:14:07.440 --> 0:14:11.040 the situation um there, effort will will be there and 0:14:11.200 --> 0:14:13.199 they will do everything in their power to try to 0:14:13.240 --> 0:14:15.959 win this football game. Uh So, I don't think we're 0:14:15.960 --> 0:14:18.160 gonna watch a team that will lay down and quit. 0:14:18.600 --> 0:14:21.920 If they do, I will be extremely surprised and very disappointed. 0:14:21.960 --> 0:14:24.080 I just don't think this is the makeup of this team, 0:14:24.480 --> 0:14:29.480 nor this staff, and so I expect a great effort. Um. Obviously, 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:33.160 these safeties will be stressed once again facing Tom Brady 0:14:33.240 --> 0:14:36.840 New England Patriots, Rob Bronkowski, all of that they will 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:39.160 be stressed and what you would like to see. You'd 0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:41.720 like to see like these two young safeties go back, 0:14:41.760 --> 0:14:44.040 look at their notebook and what they learned from their 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:47.080 first matchup, and then see if they can improve. Knowing 0:14:47.160 --> 0:14:49.440 that there will be some plays that will be made, 0:14:49.480 --> 0:14:52.720 there's no question about it, that's inevitable, But can they improve? 0:14:52.920 --> 0:14:55.800 And you hope as a staff and for coach Bowls 0:14:55.880 --> 0:14:58.600 that these two safeties and really all of your players, 0:14:58.640 --> 0:15:01.360 but especially like two guys like this, they should have 0:15:01.800 --> 0:15:05.240 mounds of notebooks already piled up just from this season 0:15:05.320 --> 0:15:08.000 and the notes that they should have been taken learning 0:15:08.080 --> 0:15:10.720 how to be better than learning from their mistakes, because 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:13.160 they certainly have a chance to be outstanding in the future. 0:15:13.320 --> 0:15:15.800 Plenty on the line for the Patriots at Gillette Stadium. 0:15:16.200 --> 0:15:19.280 If they win, they clinch number one seed in the 0:15:19.440 --> 0:15:22.360 a f C. No law lost between these two teams. 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:25.840 And Chad Pennington notes, Chad, happy new Year to you 0:15:25.920 --> 0:15:28.880 and your family. We look forward to recapping not only 0:15:28.960 --> 0:15:32.880 weeks seventeen next week in two thousand and eighteen, but 0:15:33.080 --> 0:15:36.280 looking ahead to the future. Absolutely, guys, Happy new year, 0:15:36.560 --> 0:15:40.600 all right, always good hearing from CP. Later in the podcast, 0:15:40.680 --> 0:15:42.920 we're actually gonna be joined by the voice of the Jets, 0:15:43.280 --> 0:15:46.440 Bob was Shusen Greens. I think Pennington was on the 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:49.880 market again with his analysis saying that this is a 0:15:50.000 --> 0:15:53.560 test of manhood this week. Who are you as a 0:15:53.640 --> 0:15:57.320 man and as a professional. The Jets don't need any motivation. 0:15:57.360 --> 0:16:00.240 They're playing the Patriots enough set. This is one of 0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:04.440 the classic a f C East battles Jets Patriots, I 0:16:04.480 --> 0:16:06.760 mean throughout the years when you think about it, and 0:16:07.520 --> 0:16:11.200 for anyone that was on this team last season, which 0:16:11.320 --> 0:16:14.040 is a handful of guys, there's a pretty sour taste 0:16:14.040 --> 0:16:16.160 from the last time the Green and White made their 0:16:16.200 --> 0:16:19.880 way up to Foxborough, especially for Brice exactly because I 0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:23.400 heard in that game brace Petty's season two thousand sixteen 0:16:23.480 --> 0:16:25.880 season where he made four stars appear in six games 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:28.880 it ended at Giltte Stadium. See, you know this is 0:16:28.920 --> 0:16:31.320 gonna mean a lot to him. So let's see if 0:16:31.360 --> 0:16:34.200 the Jet can get some offensive momentum going against the 0:16:34.280 --> 0:16:37.840 Patriots defense. Who I'll tell you what. They don't jump 0:16:37.960 --> 0:16:41.160 off the screen etch as far as anything they do, 0:16:41.800 --> 0:16:44.360 but they tend not to give up a lot of points. 0:16:44.440 --> 0:16:48.320 It's the classic bend but don't break defense. Well, when 0:16:48.400 --> 0:16:52.400 you look at the Patriots defensively the twenty nine overall 0:16:52.480 --> 0:16:54.840 in the league. But you could also make the argument 0:16:54.960 --> 0:16:57.480 that other teams are playing from behind vote for the 0:16:57.520 --> 0:16:59.360 majority of the time, so they're giving up a lot 0:16:59.400 --> 0:17:02.840 of yards and from that aspect, that's the ben but 0:17:03.040 --> 0:17:06.680 don't break defense. But the Patriots have a talented secondary. 0:17:06.760 --> 0:17:08.359 I don't think there's a doubt about that. When you 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:13.159 look at Malcolm Butler's Stefan Gilmore, who has underperformed in 0:17:13.320 --> 0:17:15.239 his first season, Well, you're just looking at it from 0:17:15.240 --> 0:17:18.280 the money value. I think he's at ups and downs. 0:17:18.400 --> 0:17:20.840 I don't know. I think a lot of people if 0:17:20.880 --> 0:17:23.320 you ask him Buffalo how he played last year, a 0:17:23.440 --> 0:17:25.359 lot of people would say didn't play that well. So 0:17:25.720 --> 0:17:27.760 at some point we're gonna be looking at Gilmore and 0:17:27.880 --> 0:17:31.400 saying he is who we thought he was. Yeah. Well, 0:17:31.720 --> 0:17:34.480 the one guy in the Patriots secondary that goes overlooked 0:17:34.560 --> 0:17:37.920 maybe in the national I is Patrick Chung and I 0:17:38.000 --> 0:17:39.800 think that he's one of the guys that you just 0:17:39.880 --> 0:17:42.480 have to look out for because he can cover, he 0:17:42.560 --> 0:17:45.000 can stop the run. Well, he's he's done a good job. 0:17:48.359 --> 0:17:51.720 Of course, they know the system. But regardless, I think 0:17:51.800 --> 0:17:53.640 that you'll end up seeing a lot of ground game 0:17:53.720 --> 0:17:57.600 this week because the Patriots have yielded a hundred fifteen 0:17:57.680 --> 0:18:00.920 yards on the ground per games. Well, all that the 0:18:00.960 --> 0:18:04.000 old that is just Bill Belichick tries to take away 0:18:05.200 --> 0:18:07.840 what you do, Bust. And right now, if you're watching 0:18:07.880 --> 0:18:13.760 the Jets offensively, it's bloop yards rushing against the Chargers 0:18:13.800 --> 0:18:16.600 on nineteen carries. He's up to a season career high. 0:18:16.680 --> 0:18:20.320 I think he's got seven four yards rushing, five touchdowns 0:18:20.359 --> 0:18:22.240 on the ground, and he's all of a sudden averaging 0:18:22.320 --> 0:18:26.119 four point three yards of pop. So I wouldn'nticipate the 0:18:26.160 --> 0:18:29.600 Patriots loan knack box and trying to have Petty beat him. 0:18:29.680 --> 0:18:32.480 He's someone that knows a thing or two about the 0:18:32.560 --> 0:18:35.359 Patriots and a thing or two about this Jets team. 0:18:35.480 --> 0:18:38.640 Bob was shoes in Big Game, Bob, So let's catch 0:18:38.760 --> 0:18:41.040 up with him while he makes his debut on the 0:18:41.119 --> 0:18:44.520 official Jets podcast game Preview before he takes on some 0:18:44.640 --> 0:18:54.439 college games this week. Choose. Hey, hey buddy, it's E. A. Greenberg. Hey, 0:18:54.520 --> 0:18:58.320 Bob good Man, how are you people call the complex? 0:18:58.440 --> 0:19:01.040 This is the voice they here that is true. I'm 0:19:01.080 --> 0:19:05.480 the voice of Hold the Voice, the Hold the Voice 0:19:05.560 --> 0:19:10.399 on ESPN, one of the most beloved Jets within the 0:19:10.600 --> 0:19:14.320 entire organization. Bob without a doubt. All right, Bob, let's 0:19:14.400 --> 0:19:17.560 dive into a week seventeen. Here Jets travel up to 0:19:17.920 --> 0:19:20.800 Gillette Stadium to Foxboro to take on the Patriots, who 0:19:20.840 --> 0:19:23.200 still have something to play for. How tough of a 0:19:23.320 --> 0:19:26.000 test do you think this is? And what kind of 0:19:26.160 --> 0:19:28.400 effort do you expect from this Jets team that's given 0:19:28.440 --> 0:19:31.520 each team their best shot each week? Um, you know, 0:19:31.680 --> 0:19:34.200 one more opportunity to play a game, and there's no 0:19:34.440 --> 0:19:36.760 team that I think anybody in the NFL much less. 0:19:36.760 --> 0:19:39.199 The Jets enjoys beating more of the Patriots. So if 0:19:39.480 --> 0:19:41.800 they could pull off what will be a monumental upset, 0:19:41.920 --> 0:19:44.080 be a fun way to end the season. Patriots, course, 0:19:44.200 --> 0:19:46.679 if they beat the Jets secure the one seed, they 0:19:46.720 --> 0:19:49.320 have every reason to play hard in this game. Shows 0:19:49.359 --> 0:19:51.919 what do you make a Bryce Potty two starts here 0:19:51.920 --> 0:19:54.440 in two thousand seventeen. You know, he looks like a 0:19:54.520 --> 0:19:58.480 guy that he is very smart. He is a great 0:19:58.560 --> 0:20:01.200 guy in the locker room. He's exactly the kind of 0:20:01.280 --> 0:20:06.720 guy you want on your team, but he is inexperienced. 0:20:07.040 --> 0:20:09.960 I understand from his standpoint, he probably thinks it comes 0:20:10.000 --> 0:20:14.679 from playing time. It comes with opportunities. But the question 0:20:14.960 --> 0:20:19.000 is how much of those opportunities can you afford to 0:20:19.080 --> 0:20:21.720 give a growing quarterback. So I think the bottom line 0:20:21.760 --> 0:20:24.160 is gift to get through this last game and Bryce 0:20:24.240 --> 0:20:27.960 gets one more opportunity to do what we all grow 0:20:28.080 --> 0:20:30.240 up dreaming that you get a chance to do, and 0:20:30.280 --> 0:20:32.200 that is play in the NFL, and he'll have a 0:20:32.280 --> 0:20:34.160 chance to put something on tape, either for the Jets 0:20:34.359 --> 0:20:36.760 or maybe for a different team. But I think the 0:20:36.840 --> 0:20:39.480 wide angle lens is the Jets need a different story 0:20:39.560 --> 0:20:42.000 to tell next year at quarterback. How do you think 0:20:42.080 --> 0:20:46.240 the Jets attack this Patriots team on offense last week 0:20:46.320 --> 0:20:48.320 and the week before in New Orleans really got the 0:20:48.400 --> 0:20:50.720 ground game going? Yeah, they have to run the ball. 0:20:50.920 --> 0:20:53.679 I mean, the only chance you have with Bryce Petiot 0:20:53.760 --> 0:20:56.400 quarterback is off of play action. And the only chance 0:20:56.480 --> 0:20:59.000 you have for play action to work is if you 0:20:59.080 --> 0:21:01.920 have a running game that is threatening the other team. 0:21:02.560 --> 0:21:04.320 So I mean, personally, I would like to see a 0:21:04.359 --> 0:21:07.160 lot more below Pal. I think Pal at this point 0:21:07.240 --> 0:21:10.800 has earned to be the seventy percent of the game 0:21:10.880 --> 0:21:13.119 running back. He's the one guy that has shown an 0:21:13.160 --> 0:21:16.720 explosive quality. Um. You know, he's made some big plays 0:21:17.119 --> 0:21:19.440 and so you know, I would I would think that 0:21:19.520 --> 0:21:21.639 that that's kind of the twofold answer A. You have 0:21:21.720 --> 0:21:23.560 to run the ball, and to run the ball, it 0:21:23.560 --> 0:21:28.400