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Speaker 1: So we're in the press box on Sunday. I'm looking

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Speaker 1: up it sure look like Buffalo Bills wide receiver Televin

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Speaker 1: And Steelers fans know a thing or two about that

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Speaker 1: This week reminds me Eric of two thousand and three

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Speaker 1: and them, what he was the every now and then

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Speaker 1: on the old guy who would run along way in

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Speaker 1: a straight line and they would throw the ball deep

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Speaker 1: to him once in a while. Um, and you wondered

435
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Speaker 1: if he could become anything more than that. Well, he

436
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Speaker 1: has clearly become a lot more than that. If you're

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Speaker 1: a Jets fan, you gotta be excited about the receiver

438
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Speaker 1: position because if a Noonha comes back and he's healthy,

439
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Speaker 1: you're pairing him up with Curse who's been very productive,

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Speaker 1: Robbie Anderson and his emergence, Chad Hanson is flash. You're

441
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Speaker 1: still hoping our Darius Stewart comes along in a second

442
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Speaker 1: professional season. So that's a very talented position. And like

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Speaker 1: you mentioned, shoes entering two thousand and seventeen, that was

444
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Speaker 1: a monster question mark. Let me let me go to

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Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball. How far away is

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Speaker 1: this unit from being one of the better defenses in

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Speaker 1: the National Football League? And I know it's not simple

448
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Speaker 1: as far as getting that speed pass rusher and getting

449
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Speaker 1: another cornerback, but are they pretty close? Yeah? There are

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Speaker 1: some guys that I thought were place folder players that

451
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Speaker 1: I think have played well enough to make a case

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Speaker 1: that they ought to be back. And by bringing them back,

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Speaker 1: it actually allows you to address some other positions that

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Speaker 1: I didn't think they were going to have an opportunity

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Speaker 1: to address. Mc goose without saying that the safeties are

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Speaker 1: you know, probably two of their three best players defensively. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, the defensive line needs to be better, needs

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Speaker 1: to be more impactful. But I think the linebackers like

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Speaker 1: Da Mario Davis has had a year that I never

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Speaker 1: expected that he would have, and he has been a

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Speaker 1: legit tackle machine in the middle of the defense. UM

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Speaker 1: and mc claiborne has stayed healthy for entire year. We

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Speaker 1: always said about him when he was with Dallas, guys

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Speaker 1: that guy could ever just stay on the field and

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Speaker 1: play sixteen games. He obviously has the ability to be

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Speaker 1: a you know, if not a clear cut number one,

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Speaker 1: kind of a one, a number two corner. Well, he

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Speaker 1: has been a number one corner this year because he

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Speaker 1: stayed healthy all year. Now, if you're sitting in the

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Speaker 1: room kind of analyzing your defense, you're Mike macagnant looking

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Speaker 1: at it next year, going, you know, maybe we keep

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Speaker 1: the smoke Clayborn guy. You know, maybe he stays here

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Speaker 1: and he is we just compliment him with a lower

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Speaker 1: priced guy on the other side of the field. Maybe

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Speaker 1: you can look at edge rusher in free agency, or

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Speaker 1: you look at edge rusher and there are some really

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Speaker 1: good ones this year in this draft. You know, they've

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Speaker 1: got some flexibility now on defense, I think because of

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Speaker 1: some surprising performances by guys that I think you thought,

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Speaker 1: we're just kind of you know that old Bill Parcels

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Speaker 1: hold the four guy, and now you might think you're

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Speaker 1: gonna keep here longer term than we expect at the

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Speaker 1: start of the year. You know, the Jets obviously have

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Speaker 1: to play the Patriots this week. But if you're a fan,

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Speaker 1: don't you have cautious reason for optimism considering there is

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Speaker 1: a lot of money to spend free agency. I don't

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Speaker 1: think I don't buy into the philosophy that you win

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Speaker 1: championships in the spring, but you can fill some holes there.

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Speaker 1: And also you're probably most likely looking at a top ten,

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Speaker 1: top eight draft pick. Well, they're definitely gonna have I mean,

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Speaker 1: barring a monumental upset, it's an up till climb that

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Speaker 1: they're gonna win on Sunday. So if they end up

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Speaker 1: five and eleven, you're gonna draft no worse than eight.

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Speaker 1: You may draft seventh, you may draft six, depending on

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Speaker 1: what happens in front of you with these other teams

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Speaker 1: that are kind of right in your pocket of the draft,

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Speaker 1: and whether or not you know they win or lose

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Speaker 1: games this weekend, but who knows last weekend of the season.

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Speaker 1: You know, teams sometimes don't have anything to play for.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes teams, you know, kind of rise up in a

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Speaker 1: dead atmosphere and win a game you never expected them

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Speaker 1: to win. Um, they've got options and uh. And I

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Speaker 1: think that's the best thing that you can say about

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Speaker 1: where they're going to be drafting. Well, Bob was susan

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Speaker 1: they'll be calling the cotton Ball Classic Friday night USC

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Speaker 1: in Ohio State eight thirty start on ESPN, and that

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Speaker 1: he'll make his way with the team to Gilatte Stadium

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Speaker 1: on Sunday for a little New Year's Eve Jets Patriots

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Speaker 1: class is always shoots me. Pre shit. Bob was shoosing

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Speaker 1: the voice of the Jets something. I didn't know the

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Speaker 1: voice of hold here at one Jet You didn't know

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Speaker 1: that you never called the switchboard no ever, that's stunning

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Speaker 1: to the voice of hold here at one Jets Drive. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you get a highlighter two from Bob was shusing one

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Speaker 1: of the finest broadcasters in the game, and I think

516
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Speaker 1: he doesn't tremendous job on college basketball and college football.

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Speaker 1: If you need any advice for probably food sightseeing across America,

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Speaker 1: I think Bob has you covered. Listen. He's been to

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Speaker 1: a lot of places he's up in their Remember that

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00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 1: movie with George Clooney. I do, Yeah, I did see them. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So Boba Shusan is a guy you want to get

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Speaker 1: stranded with inside an airport because he knows, he knows

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Speaker 1: the spots, he knows the spots where we're gonna go,

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Speaker 1: how to get up there at the front of the

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Speaker 1: line and things like that. So with Schusing, this is

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Speaker 1: gonna be a busy time for him because I don't

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Speaker 1: make his way with the team to Gillette Stadium and

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Speaker 1: then it's college basketball season and or way we go.

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Speaker 1: Something that Bob said that I just want to highlight

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Speaker 1: here is the effort from this Jets team. And I

531
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Speaker 1: know we talked about it with Chad Pennington, but no

532
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Speaker 1: matter what has transpired throughout this season, the Jets have

533
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: always come out on Sunday and put their best foot forward.

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Speaker 1: And you've got to give credit to the coaching staff

535
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Speaker 1: and the players for coming out each and every week,

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Speaker 1: no matter what happened last Sunday short week. I know

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Speaker 1: there's a twenty four hour rule winter loss that has

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Speaker 1: been installed here and it's really shown on Sunday. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's just a professional approach. I mean This is the

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Speaker 1: bottom line, from the top on down. It starts with

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Speaker 1: Todd Bowles and what he instilled in this team back

542
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Speaker 1: in the spring. With that being said, nobody's happy that

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Speaker 1: they're going into New England with a five and ten record. UM,

544
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 1: but Shoes is right. There's only one game you can

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Speaker 1: point to in the two thousand seventeen seasons said who

546
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 1: they weren't in it, they didn't have a chance, and

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00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: that was Denver and that game was an anomaly for

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Speaker 1: the Jets this season. With that being said, uh, you're

549
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 1: seeing some young guys developed in front of your eyes.

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Speaker 1: We've talked about it numerous times here in the podcast.

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Speaker 1: Robbie Anderson sixty nine yards away from his first thousand

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Speaker 1: yards season. It's gonna be tough against the Patriots because

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Speaker 1: you talked about their secondary before. The safeties are growing

554
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Speaker 1: up before our eyes, and Marcus May and Jamal Adams,

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Speaker 1: Eli McGuire is contributed in the backfield. And we'd also

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Speaker 1: be remiss if we didn't mention the offensive lined up

557
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Speaker 1: because last week West Johnson did not start. Jonathan Harrison

558
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Speaker 1: did a great job up front, Brunt Quality filled in

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Speaker 1: at right tackle for Brandon Shall and how about the

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00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 1: coda does are stepping in at right guard for Brian Winter.

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Speaker 1: How about Jonathan Harrison leading the way on blouse fifty

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Speaker 1: seven yard top Colvin Beacham calls him Harry said, Harry

563
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Speaker 1: was leading away. That's what I call m. I also

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Speaker 1: just want to throw in a couple more names that

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Speaker 1: you talk. It's about talking about Anderson the safeties and

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Speaker 1: Jamal Adams marks may. How about someone to me like

567
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Speaker 1: Jordan Jenkins because last season he came on at the

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Speaker 1: end of the season, in the final four games, and

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Speaker 1: he said when he was cleaning out his locker and

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Speaker 1: he spoke to the media, which is about a year ago,

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Speaker 1: a little over a year ago to date, is that

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Speaker 1: towards the end of the season he started getting a

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Speaker 1: little nastier, a little meaner. And then he gets a

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Speaker 1: new position coach and Kevin Green this year and the

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Speaker 1: Bulldog has taken off in his second year and a

576
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Speaker 1: lot of the things that he does I don't think

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Speaker 1: show up in a statue sheet. But you know what

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Speaker 1: you're gonna get out of him, and he's he gives

579
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Speaker 1: a ten percent every play and you gotta I admire

580
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 1: that for he plays a tough position. He's a guy

581
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Speaker 1: who's typically set in the edge, playing over the tight end.

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Speaker 1: He's done a fine job. He's stout against the run,

583
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Speaker 1: turning things inside. The Jets have been a better rushed

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Speaker 1: defense throughout the year. They played very well against the

585
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Speaker 1: run against the Chargers. UH Darren Ly has made steps

586
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Speaker 1: in second season. Those are two guys who are part

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Speaker 1: part of this foundation moving forward. You talked about McCown before. Offensively,

588
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: we'll have to see what happens with him in the

589
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Speaker 1: off season. With she was an address the quarterback position

590
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: to Mario O'Davis is another guy who's contract is up

591
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 1: who came in and played awfully while for this team.

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00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: Mike mcagnet got him in a swap for Colvin Prior.

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Speaker 1: I don't think Calvin Prior is even with the team

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Speaker 1: right now. I know he's not with the Browns. Calvin

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Speaker 1: Prior was released from the Jaguars injured reserve right and

596
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Speaker 1: then the defensive line right now. The Jets. UH decided

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Speaker 1: to sit Mohammed Wokerson for second consecutive game coach's decision,

598
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Speaker 1: but UH and Leonard Williams went down for a second

599
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 1: consecutive week against the Saints was a concussion. Against the

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00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 1: Chargers was lower back injury. But guys like Xavier Cooper

601
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 1: and Mike Panell I think they're quitting themselves well, and

602
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Speaker 1: we'll have to see what happens this Sunday where the

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Speaker 1: Jets season comes to an end of again Jets Patriots,

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Speaker 1: Gillette Stadium, one pm on New Year's Eve. I mean, well,

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Speaker 1: what else did you ask for? It's crazy that the

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Speaker 1: football season is coming to you know, if you're you're

607
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 1: if you're a Jets fan, your eye is already appointed

608
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Speaker 1: to the off season with Tad Bowls. Will put these

609
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 1: guys through a good week of practice, they'll be ready

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Speaker 1: to go. Uh, and I anticipate a good effort win

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Speaker 1: or loss. But then if you're a Jets fan, you

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00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 1: can turn the page and we're gonna talk about it

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Speaker 1: next week on the podcast Greens. There's so many things

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Speaker 1: will look forward to. Uh. The Jets have financial flexibility,

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Speaker 1: They'll be in a good position in the draft to

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Speaker 1: have a number of early draft picks in two thousand

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Speaker 1: and eighteen in April coming up, So there's so much

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Speaker 1: to get to next week. But yeah, but we'll save

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Speaker 1: it from next week. That's a little teas. Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: better make sure to tune in next week because even

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Speaker 1: though the game previews are coming to a close, we

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Speaker 1: don't stop here on the Official Jets Podcast. But again

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Speaker 1: for the final time, signing off from a game preview again,

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Speaker 1: Jets Patriots this Sunday, one pm, Gillette Stadium, putting a

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Speaker 1: bow on two thousand seven year, Everybody, New Year, and

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Speaker 1: Ferreric Allen, I'm Ethan Greenberg can see in the bott