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Speaker 1: Welcome back. I am Dale Lally. He is Matt Williamson,

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Speaker 1: and this is the drive on Steelers Nation Radio. Matt. Uh.

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Speaker 1: The list that I wanted to go through here, uh

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Speaker 1: is actually on NFL dot com. Greg Rosenthal, with the

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Speaker 1: retirement of Tom Brady earlier this week, came up with

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Speaker 1: his rankings on the top quarterbacks of all time. And

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Speaker 1: it's actually all time Super Bowl quarterback ranking. So you

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Speaker 1: had to have at least played in a Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: to make this list, which limits it somewhat. But most

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Speaker 1: best quarterbacks have at least played in a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: And even the Marinos that didn't get back or whatever,

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Speaker 1: you know, still got to one. So yeah, so number

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Speaker 1: one on his list, he calls this goat pasture. Well,

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Speaker 1: it can't be goat pasture, the only one. That word

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Speaker 1: gets thrown around way too much. Yeah, there by definition,

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Speaker 1: there can only be one because it's the greatest of

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Speaker 1: all time. It's a singular term. Yeah you can't. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you can't have seven of them, right, But he has

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Speaker 1: Brady number one. Okay, number two? Okay, I mean I

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Speaker 1: would start the list in the Super Bowl. Euro I

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Speaker 1: guess United did play in Super Bowl, played in the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Yes, I see, I see it's good years

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Speaker 1: weren't in Super Bowl euro but there you have it,

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Speaker 1: um super quick. But I mean, there's so many Brady

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Speaker 1: numbers that are staggering. But I was looking at this

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Speaker 1: the other day. There's fifteen quarterbacks, including Ben and Bradshaw,

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Speaker 1: that have won ten or more playoff games with the

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Speaker 1: with Montana being at sixteen, he's number two, Brady's one

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Speaker 1: thirty five. You know that's Bunkers. Yeah, uh so United

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Speaker 1: number two. Joe Montana number three, Okay, I mean he

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Speaker 1: was in the goat past here before Brady showed up. Right,

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Speaker 1: two Pittsburgh guys there though in the top three. Number

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Speaker 1: four he has Peyton Manning. Number five. Yeah, number five

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Speaker 1: is another Pittsburgh guy, Dan Marino. I think Marino's tragically

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Speaker 1: underrated on quarterback all time list. If Marino played in

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Speaker 1: today's NFL, come on, man, six thousand yards would be

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Speaker 1: within reach the way he threw an aggression and right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, like, with all respect to Duper and Clayton,

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Speaker 1: they're not Swan in stal Wars Many Moss. You know

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Speaker 1: at six he has Aaron Rodgers. I'm fine with that.

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Speaker 1: Uh at seventy is Brett Farve. I don't know that

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Speaker 1: I can say that that sounds a little rich just

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Speaker 1: knowing some names that should be on the horizon here. Frankly,

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Speaker 1: I have my homes out of both those guys, right

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Speaker 1: um and climbing rapidly. He has the best second tier

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Speaker 1: guy that was the whole goat pastor, that was the

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Speaker 1: goat pastor. Yes, uh he has Steve Young at number eight. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I mean if you take Young over Aikman, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'll take el Way over both those guys. I'll take

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Speaker 1: always next at nine, Okay, I take Elway over five.

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Speaker 1: Me too, me too, could be right next to Marino Brob.

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Speaker 1: I mean he got the five Super Bowls. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean he was a superstar earlier. Another one. I always

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Speaker 1: have this Elway conversation with people like yeah, but he

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Speaker 1: threw to the three amigos. I'm like, name one of them.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I know some people, don't you want to

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Speaker 1: know Ricky Nteal, Advance, Johnson Ard you know? Uh? Ten

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Speaker 1: is Patrick Mahomes yea for now, that's up seven spots,

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Speaker 1: by the way from a guesst the previous time he

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Speaker 1: did this. Uh at eleven, he is Roger Staubach pretty

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Speaker 1: darn good. I have Roger Overboat Steeler guys at Twelvey

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Speaker 1: as Drew Brees heck of a career. I don't if

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Speaker 1: you were asking me. If you ask me, like you

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Speaker 1: put Ben Roethlisberger up against Drew Brees in a in

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Speaker 1: a in a throwing competition, right, it's not even close,

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Speaker 1: or really if you put Breeze in Pittsburgh where he

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Speaker 1: has to deal with breezes and in the dome, like

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Speaker 1: I love Drew Brees. He's trying his player, but he

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Speaker 1: had some advantages, without a doubt, without a doubt. At

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Speaker 1: thirteen he is bart Star. Fine. I mean, I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna fight on bart Star, but I'd rather play against

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Speaker 1: bart Star than many people. He's about to mention with

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Speaker 1: all the sparts Star, you know, the next group is

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Speaker 1: in or should be in the Hall of Fame. He's had.

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Speaker 1: At fourteen, France, Tarkenton, no Steelers yet it's starting to

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Speaker 1: irritate me a little. At fifteen we finally get the

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Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger. I'm fine with Ben over Bradshaw. I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure that I'm fine with Tarkenton over Bradshaw. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: sixteen is Troy Aikman, solid pyby right next to thing.

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Speaker 1: same of um at seventeen is Terry Bradshaw. That's sixteen

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Speaker 1: better quarterbacks and played in the Super Bowl than the

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Speaker 1: guy with four rings. A little disrespectful, a little disrespectful.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't that caretaker either in the bart Star mold right,

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Speaker 1: like people now look at Namath and wonder why he's

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Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame because you know, he threw

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Speaker 1: more interceptions in touchdowns and all that stuff. He was

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Speaker 1: a superstar. He was a superstar. Like he put the NFL,

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Speaker 1: He put the or the a FL on a map. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean he was a super Broadway Joe in New York.

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Speaker 1: I mean, like, yeah, age the game. You can't talk

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Speaker 1: can't mention you don't have to mention Len Dawson right

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Speaker 1: right A. Twenty one is Jim Kelly. Mhmm. This neighborhood's

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Speaker 1: really good players, you know. I mean, I'm not gonna fight.

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Speaker 1: Jim Kelly was pretty darn good. Twenty two is Kurt Warner.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad Eli hasn't been right. Twenty three is Kenn Anderson. Wow.

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Speaker 1: And we talked about that over the years. I mean

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Speaker 1: there's a Hall of Fame. Yeah, she would be in

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Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. Yeah. Twenty four is Kenny Stabler okay,

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Speaker 1: and then Russell Wilson. I think he's a Hall of Famer,

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Speaker 1: I said. I was asked that when he got traded

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Speaker 1: year in Denver sit didn't help, though, it hasn't helped. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it'll be an interesting one when his time comes up.

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Speaker 1: The next group is fun to watch. Mhm. So number

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Speaker 1: twenty six is Donovan McNabb Okay, not going to be

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Speaker 1: fun to watch. Twenty eight Darryl la Monica, Yeah, Bomber.

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Speaker 1: Matt Ryan not gonna be a Hall of Famer. I

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Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford. I would put him over Ryan. I would too. Um.

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Speaker 1: Thirty one is Earl whorl Okay. Thirty two Eli Manning.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad he's this low. I think he's a lot

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Speaker 1: closer to Matt Ryan than he is big brother. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Thirty three Steve McNair m hmm. I mean I think

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Speaker 1: McNabb McNair and his prime was certainly a better quarterback

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Speaker 1: than Eli Manning. Yeah. I mean he's awful to play against. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: She's just presented so many challenges for you. Thirty four

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Speaker 1: four good years though. Yeah. Um, crazy talent for a

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Speaker 1: tier this low is the next group down. Thirty five

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Speaker 1: is Cam Newton. I mean he fits that criteria. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Thirty six Joe Theisman. He was a lot better athlete

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Speaker 1: than people realized too, like watching football life not long ago,

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Speaker 1: Evan just remembers the leg breaking thirty seven Phils Sims solid. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: thirty eight Ron Jaworski, okay, I I started becoming a

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Speaker 1: Thirty nine is Joe Burrow. I would put him over

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Speaker 1: his career. Forty Drew Bledsoe also a quality player Shore

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Speaker 1: than people think. I mean, not that I'm saying he

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Speaker 1: should be in the Hall of Fame, but he was

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Speaker 1: And there's or whatever on this list too. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. But Chris Chandler, he's forty five. Wow.

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Speaker 1: Forty six is Billy Kilmer, the middle of the packs

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Speaker 1: a little night. Forty seven Brad Johnson, Oh, he won

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Speaker 1: Forty nine is Joe Flacco, Okay, I mean he had

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Speaker 1: a better career than most of them. Yeah. Well, fifty

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Speaker 1: Jeff hoss Stetler, right, won a super Bowl. Fifty one

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Speaker 1: these are guys that if you've played in a super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Ranking the Apple Time Super Bowl Quarterbacks, Yeah, fifty two

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Speaker 1: Neil o'donnald H. I mean there must be there's got

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Speaker 1: of bad ones. Uh. Fifty three Colin Kaepernick. I don't

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Speaker 1: is Jake Delhome. Yeah. Fifty five is Jared Goff who. Okay,

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Speaker 1: My takeaway here is a lot of good teams went

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Speaker 1: it here now? Getting back again? Is that is the

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Speaker 1: sub subpart quarterback. Uh. Fifty six is Doug Williams. Okay.

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Speaker 1: Fifty seven is where Jalen Hurts now comes in at

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Speaker 1: the small sample size, I mean, yeah, that's I don't

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Speaker 1: least as an m v P conversations. The last ten

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Speaker 1: comment on this group? Fifty nine is Jim McMahon man

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Speaker 1: sixty is Joe Cap with the Vikings mhmm, okay, sixty one,

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Speaker 1: this name is still stings for Steeler fans. Stan Humphreys ouch, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: didn't fare so well when he got there, No, he

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Speaker 1: did not. Sixty two Trent Dilford total caretaker. Yeah. Sixty

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Speaker 1: three Vince Ferragamo against the Stellars against the Steelers. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And then the end of the line the last three guys.

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Speaker 1: So there are sixty six quarterbacks that have started in

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Sixty four is Tony Easton, he didn't

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Speaker 1: or so well either day. It was a very rough day.

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Speaker 1: Sixty five David Woodley. Who So that was the eight

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Speaker 1: real quick on Eastan? That was the five Bears or whatever. Yeah, twelve,

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Speaker 1: fifteen bucks. It was like now when in like fifteen

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Speaker 1: grand I was so happy. Uh. I mentioned David Woodley

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Speaker 1: I don't Rex gross mu sexy rexy. Yeah, I guess

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Speaker 1: he deserves to be last. Yeah, not very good. Where

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