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Speaker 1: Smell us now, lady, Welcome to Meet Eater Trivia podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Meet Eater Radio Live. It's eleven am Mountain Time.

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Speaker 2: That's noon o'clock for our friends in Grand Murray, Minnesota,

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Speaker 2: on Thursday, July tenth, and we're live for Meet Eater,

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Speaker 2: HQ and Bozeman. I'm your host, Spencer, joined today by

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Speaker 2: Callen Mark. On today's show, Callen Mark will fill us

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Speaker 2: in on the latest outdoor legislation. Then we'll be joined

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Speaker 2: by Bradley Pooler for one minute fishing in Tennessee. After

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Speaker 2: that we'll play The Price Is Right, and finally we'll

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Speaker 2: end the episode with some show and tell. Callen Mark

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Speaker 2: back so fresh from a trip that I can still

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Speaker 2: smell the Alaska on you two boys doing there.

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Speaker 3: It's good smell. We were in the Arctic National Widlife Refuge.

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Speaker 2: Okay, tell me more.

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Speaker 1: Brooks Ranch. We kind of started on the waters that

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Speaker 1: would be draining to the south of the Brooks Ranch.

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Speaker 1: And this was super cool because it was like the

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Speaker 1: start of the convergence of caribou, the porcupine herd caribou.

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Speaker 1: And then this is a very spoiled kid trip. We

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Speaker 1: got a lot, We got picked up and dropped off

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Speaker 1: three different times.

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Speaker 3: And when we got there there there was no deliverable.

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Speaker 3: We just had to go experience it.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But we got picked up and flew on the

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Speaker 1: same route that these caribou were migrating on. And it

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Speaker 1: was awesome because you like, in the first valley, the

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Speaker 1: first creek that we camped on, these caribou would dump

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Speaker 1: off the top of this super high ridge skylined, so

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Speaker 1: you'd be like, oh, there they are, and then five

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Speaker 1: minutes later they'd be down the river valley and then

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Speaker 1: they would turn north and they were just motoring like

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Speaker 1: they weren't grazing along for the most part. They were

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Speaker 1: just following these ancient Cariboo paths. And then we got

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Speaker 1: picked up, followed those paths in the air through the

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Speaker 1: Brooks Range and dropped off on the north facing slopes.

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Speaker 1: And you could tell it was north facing because it

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Speaker 1: was just the Arctic Ocean to the north of US.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and taking a step back for folks that aren't familiar,

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Speaker 3: the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge is a nineteen point six

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Speaker 3: million acre wildlife refuge, the largest wildlife refuge. I believe

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Speaker 3: we have one of the very I think the second

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Speaker 3: largest piece of public land in our system and quite

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Speaker 3: possibly the most intact eCos second to what second to

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Speaker 3: the Western Arctic also knows the National Petroleum Reserve Alaska,

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Speaker 3: which is just to the west of it, and that's

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Speaker 3: twenty three million acres I think. But this is I

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Speaker 3: think arguably the most most intact ecosystem we have left

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Speaker 1: It is, which makes it probably one of the most

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Speaker 1: intact ecosystems left in the.

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Speaker 3: World, in the world stunning diverse area. Ause he mentioned

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Speaker 3: where we started out on the south slope of the

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Speaker 3: Brooks Range, which is the northern more excuse me, northernmost

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Speaker 3: then becomes this tundra ecosystem, and as cal said, you

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Speaker 3: So we had epic mountain vistas and river bottoms, and

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Speaker 3: then the second half of the trip we had this

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Speaker 3: immense grassland like the whole time we were there, especially

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Speaker 3: that second half of the trip. When you look over

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Speaker 3: this millions of acres grassland that is undeveloped, untouched all

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Speaker 3: few weeks there would be maybe two hundred thousand caribou

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Speaker 3: out there. It was a moment in which I thought

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Speaker 3: to myself, this is a little bit like what Lewis

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Speaker 3: and Clark experienced, you know, two hundred years ago or

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Speaker 3: whatever it was. I've always wondered that when you go

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Speaker 3: across the grasslands today in North Dakota or eastern Montana,

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Speaker 3: I always thought, what was this like? It would have

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Speaker 3: been so amazing to see this vast, undeveloped grassland and

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Speaker 3: all these creatures. And we got to sit on a

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Speaker 3: mountain and look over a grassland like that, a tundra

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Speaker 3: ecosystem like that now and see four We thought we

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Speaker 2: Yeah, to add some perspective, thirty thousand square miles. That's

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Speaker 2: the size of South Carolina that you guys are talking about.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, which is way cooler because there's very few people.

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Speaker 2: And there's a reason this is more relevant now than

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Speaker 2: maybe in the past, what were you guys doing.

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Speaker 3: There, Well, we were there to be able to experience

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Speaker 3: this is a place that has been hotly debated for

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Speaker 3: a long time. It was first created in nineteen sixty

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Speaker 3: as about a nine million acre refuge. In nineteen eighty

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Speaker 3: and at that time, because of all the political horse

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Speaker 3: up to development. That one point five million acres is

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Speaker 3: this coastal plane area that me and kel were just

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Speaker 3: talking about. That is where these caribou going calve. This

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Speaker 3: is where migratory birds from all fifty states go. This

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Speaker 3: is where the largest land based polar bear denning sites,

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Speaker 3: the most polar bear denning sites are in Alaska. Y's

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Speaker 3: here as well. That's this place that ever since nineteen

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Speaker 2: A place any American could go hunt, fish.

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Speaker 3: Caribou hunt, yeah, hole nine yards all that stuff.

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Speaker 1: I mean the reason that it's so pristine, right is

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Speaker 1: because it's remote. It's a it's tough to get to.

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Speaker 1: It's expensive to get to. But that's the only limitation

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Speaker 1: that that people would have, is like it is just

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Speaker 1: time and expense to get up there. So we we were.

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Speaker 1: I left Missoula, Montana, at like seven thirty at night,

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Speaker 1: and I was standing on the ground in the refuge

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Speaker 1: at our first camp at like one thirty in the

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Speaker 3: It's not impossible to get to.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but it's you know, it kind of

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Speaker 1: gets referred to as like the Serengetti because it has

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Speaker 1: this giant convergence of biomass. Three hundred and fifty different

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Speaker 1: species of migratory birds show up there, which makes it

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Speaker 1: like this birding hot spot. And oddly enough, that's that's

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Speaker 1: certain species that they're they're cataloging and their burning apps

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Speaker 1: that porcupine caribou heard their migration. If you take like

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Speaker 1: the furthest extent, right, it's what is it twenty five

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Speaker 3: Yeah, twenty Well I think it's a total of twenty

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think, in short, it was the wildest,

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Speaker 3: most spectacular place I've ever seen. Me and kel were

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Speaker 1: And pretty much anybody that you talk to that has

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Speaker 1: and I was just like, oh my god, I don't

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Speaker 1: just like almost pointless, right because it's so big. But

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Speaker 3: So yeah, so to date, you know, it's been debated,

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Speaker 3: And now in twenty seventeen, a similar reconciliation bill passed

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Speaker 3: And then I had to look at it knowing that

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Speaker 3: if my kids ever got back here, it's very likely

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Speaker 3: that it would not be the same, because in a

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Speaker 3: that the bill as it will, it could be dramatically different.

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Speaker 3: And that's the first time I've ever been so starkly

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Speaker 1: It's kind of an interesting thing, right because these are

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Speaker 1: just leases, it's not mandated development. The previous leases that

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Speaker 1: And those Western Arctic sales are a lot closer to

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Speaker 1: And it's not just the one Chilean mine that has

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Speaker 3: As I understand it, there's not been a single mine

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Speaker 1: Which makes sense. Like you're especially in this area, it's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's the opposite of the Arctic National Wildlife

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Speaker 2: And despite it being the most visited, you'll still have

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's remote, it's vast, it's gorgeous. I had

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Speaker 3: I think that's just something to get on people's radar.

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Speaker 3: The Roadless Rule protects fifty eight point five million acres

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Speaker 3: We're going to protect those with this roadless rule. There's

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Speaker 3: but with this layer of roadless protection, which now I

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Speaker 1: And This one's kind of more so spoken in terms

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Speaker 1: Let's say the fastest I don't even believe eighteen months,

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Speaker 2: You can't harvest your Christmas tree within like I don't know,

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Speaker 1: So that's a setback, that's right there. Yeah, Yeah, good regulation.

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Speaker 3: this whole conversation comes down to, is like, we absolutely

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Speaker 3: need resources. We need to utilize natural resources. Our public

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Speaker 3: lands are multiple use public lands are tremendous places for

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Speaker 3: that to happen when it's done carefully and appropriately. But

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Speaker 3: at the same time, there are hundreds of millions of

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Speaker 3: acres of our public land open to resource extraction and done.

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Speaker 3: So the last handful of places that we have that aren't,

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Speaker 3: the few places that are still either roadless or in

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Speaker 3: a intact place, are just as rare and precious of

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Speaker 3: a resources, gold, oil, or any kind of resource out there.

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Speaker 3: And I think that there's a whole lot of momentum

448
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Speaker 3: across the entire world of civilization pushing us to develop, develop, develop,

449
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Speaker 3: develop that's going to happen. There's only a handful of

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Speaker 3: communities of people who care about maybe preserving some of

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Speaker 3: these last few spots. So those of us who do

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Speaker 3: care about wildlife or wild places, it's kind of incumbent

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Speaker 3: on us to try to tap the brakes on some

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Speaker 3: of this stuff where we still have that chance, because

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Speaker 3: we're not ever going to get it back.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean roads, just like a trail, does

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Speaker 1: roads bring people? I mean that's you know, a lot

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Speaker 1: of the timber harvest that was done in the seventies

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Speaker 1: was heavily government subsidized sixties and seventies because it was

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Speaker 1: the government that was paying for the roads. And the

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Speaker 1: idea right was like, oh, yeah, it's going to be

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Speaker 1: a better recreation corridors for people to get into these areas,

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Speaker 1: which which is absolutely true true, but that's what made

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Speaker 1: that timber marketable at that time. So I'm still real

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Speaker 1: confused as to how some of these things are going

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Speaker 1: to actually work with you know, like Doze was all

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Speaker 1: everybody could talk about only a few short weeks ago, right,

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Speaker 1: and that's about like rolling back the amount of government expense.

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Speaker 1: At the same time, a lot of these big projects

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Speaker 1: only happened because the government was paying for them to happen,

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Speaker 1: at least in some.

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Speaker 4: Part or portion.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: The funny thing speaking of that, all this talk about

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Speaker 3: how we need to increase revenues from our public lands

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Speaker 3: because of the budget issues and deficit issues and all that,

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Speaker 3: while folks are making that claim to justify opening these

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Speaker 3: places up to development. Also in that bill they have

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Speaker 3: reduced the royalties on oiled really on extraction. So the

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Speaker 3: folks who are going to take these resources off our

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Speaker 3: public lands are paying the taxpayers in the nation less

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Speaker 3: for that resource. That's not helping the whole budget causes.

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Speaker 2: It Sure, all things worth considering. If you're listening to

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Speaker 2: the show, those are your public lands on they're precious.

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Speaker 1: Nobody ever brings up revising the mining Act.

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Speaker 3: Man, there's an easy win.

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Speaker 1: Nobody ever brings up.

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Speaker 2: All right, we got a few plugs to do before

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Speaker 2: we get on with the rest of the show. Marcus,

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Speaker 2: there's a collab among some of our partners that I

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Speaker 2: know you specifically are very excited about. Tell us about that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you've already had a list of me jaw

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Speaker 3: for a while. But I'll keep this one quick. Our

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Speaker 3: pals at Moultrie and on Ex are working together now,

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Speaker 3: which is pretty fun. Very simply put, you can now

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Speaker 3: connect your Moultrie Trail cameras to your Onyx Hunt app,

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Speaker 3: so they work together so that when you go into

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Speaker 3: your Moultary app and you log in with your Onx account,

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Speaker 3: when I head out there and I go set up

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Speaker 3: a new moultr camera like I did a month or

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Speaker 3: so ago before I took off for Idaho, it will

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Speaker 3: automatically drop a pin on my map showing where my

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Speaker 3: camera is, which is pretty nice, so I can always

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Speaker 3: see it, and then I can actually click on that

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Speaker 3: pin and see the photos pulled in from my multi

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Speaker 3: cameras in the same place. Very convenient, So very convenient.

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Speaker 3: Some really cool different ways you can use that, and

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Speaker 3: you can dive into the details a little bit more.

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Speaker 3: But if you use Moultree cameras and if you use

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Speaker 3: the Onyx Hunt app, this is a great way to

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Speaker 3: get the best of both worlds in one place and

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Speaker 3: keep your trail camera data and your hunt plan data

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Speaker 3: a little bit more easily accessible on top of mind.

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Speaker 2: And it's just getting harder and harder to lose a

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Speaker 2: trail camera. The amount of trail cameras I come across

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Speaker 2: in the woods that have clearly been there for a

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Speaker 2: decade and not visited, you know, for about that same

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Speaker 2: amount of time. It happens too often.

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Speaker 3: If only there was an app that would show me

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Speaker 3: where I lost the cheese to the lock that attached

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Speaker 3: my camera to the tree. Yeah, I need that one.

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Speaker 1: Whitetail guy problems, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, one more plug. The new hats they are in

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Speaker 2: the store July twelfth, two days from now. Marcus has

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Speaker 2: one right now, wired to hard words. I've got a

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Speaker 2: bison hat. I'm pretty thrilled about these, and they're gonna

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Speaker 2: be available stored at them meadeater dot com in two days.

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Speaker 2: All right, We have now served our audience a big

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Speaker 2: heaping plate of vegetables. When I think about content, I

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Speaker 2: think about the content is vegetables, meat or candy. We've

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Speaker 2: just given you a big old helping of vegetables, which

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00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 2: is good. You need to eat your vegetables the rest

533
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Speaker 2: of the show. Though, we got meat and candy coming

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Speaker 2: at you. You guys, go to that, Okay. Our next

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Speaker 2: segment is one Minute Fishing. Do I feel lucky?

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Speaker 3: We'll do you punk, Go ahead make my cast.

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Speaker 2: This week, our wrangler is Bradley Pooler aka find in

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Speaker 2: Fish on Instagram. He's on a creek in northern Tennessee

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Speaker 2: and fishing for a donation to the Cumberland River Compact. Bradley,

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 5: How hey, folks, I'm so stoked to be here. Thanks

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Speaker 5: for having me, guys.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for being here. Bradley, you run one of my

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Speaker 2: favorite accounts on Instagram. You make some of the most

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Speaker 2: unique fishing content on the internet. Tell folks what find

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Speaker 2: in Fish is, man.

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Speaker 5: That's that's super kind of you. Thank you. It's a

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00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 5: pretty simple concept. Basically, when you're out fishing, and you

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Speaker 5: see a snag lure, then you just try to retrieve

556
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 5: it and then fish it like right there where you

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00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 5: found it on that body of water. It's just like

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Speaker 5: a super fun way. It's a like try different different

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Speaker 5: lures and challenge yourself, you know, in ways that you

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Speaker 5: wouldn't normally.

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Speaker 2: So, yeah, how did this lure recycling endeavor of your start?

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Speaker 5: Well? Man, I grew up fishing as a little kid,

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Speaker 5: but kind of phased out of it when I was older,

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Speaker 5: and I picked it back up in twenty twenty when

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Speaker 5: the pandemic started, as you know, so many people did then.

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Speaker 5: And so while I was out, you know, visiting all

567
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Speaker 5: these new places trying to relearn how to fish, I

568
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Speaker 5: just couldn't help. But notice like every single place had

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Speaker 5: a lowre hanging out of a tree or that somebody

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Speaker 5: had like dropped on the bank or something. And it

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Speaker 5: just became like this big scavenger hunt treasure.

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Speaker 2: Okay, how many how many lures do you think you

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Speaker 2: found it?

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Speaker 6: Now?

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Speaker 5: I got crazier and crazier started with just my oh

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Speaker 5: probably I think like three hundred and sixty over the

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Speaker 5: three to four years that I have been doing it.

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Speaker 5: And that's like before the posting, you know, or after

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Speaker 5: the posting. Sorry. So I've found a lot in those

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Speaker 5: first years.

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Speaker 2: And what's the biggest snag of lures you've come across, man?

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Speaker 5: I I think probably it was in North Alabama visiting

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Speaker 5: my in laws. We found like big old rats nest

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Speaker 5: a line up in a tree. Pulled the pole out,

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Speaker 5: tried to pull on it, and you could just see

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Speaker 5: all the trees. I don't remember how many lures I

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Speaker 5: got out of that, but it was like it was

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Speaker 5: a sizeable wad of line that we pulled out of

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Speaker 5: the tree.

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Speaker 2: And what's the most common lures you find in the

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Speaker 2: most commonplaces you find them?

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Speaker 5: It really varies. There's a lot. I found a good

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Speaker 5: spread of lures, but a lot of rooster tails and like,

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Speaker 5: you know, inline spinners, especially like where they're trout, you know,

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Speaker 5: stocking trout, and uh, you know jigs, like any kind

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Speaker 5: of jigs, curly tails, Bobby Garlands, that sort of thing.

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Speaker 5: And then I've kind of found a little slew of

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Speaker 5: wopper ploppers lately, which is just kind of a weird fluke,

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Speaker 5: but I'm not mad about it.

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Speaker 2: Are there any lures that get you really excited when

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Speaker 2: you come across them.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the wopper ploppers. Honestly, I just I get giddy

603
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Speaker 5: every time I find it. They're like nine plus dollars,

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Speaker 5: you know, and they're super fun to fish, super fast,

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Speaker 5: and the hits are amazing. Of course.

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Speaker 2: Okay on the water today, have you found any lures

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Speaker 2: yet this afternoon?

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Speaker 3: No, No, I haven't.

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Speaker 5: This is one of my favorite spots to fish, and

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Speaker 5: I've picked it pretty clean. Lures don't last very long here.

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Speaker 2: Good. That's good for today's one minute fishing. Tell us

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Speaker 2: about where you're at, what you're fishing for, and how

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Speaker 2: you're doing it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So I'm going to creak that feeds the Cumberland

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Speaker 5: And basically this is a pretty wide spot right here,

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Speaker 5: super shallow in the center, but it's deeper on the

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Speaker 5: side here with a little bit of shade cover. And

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Speaker 5: then I've got a little bit deeper spot over here

620
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Speaker 5: with some weed cover. So hoping that I can just

621
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Speaker 5: kind of, you know, cover around as fast as I can,

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Speaker 5: I kind of changed up my tactic a little bit.

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Speaker 5: I was gonna use a little Bobby Garland jig that

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Speaker 5: I found here a couple of weeks ago, but when

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Speaker 5: I tied myself. It was just too slow. I couldn't

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Speaker 5: get it up retries. So I've switched over to just

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Speaker 5: a little black, little black rooster tail and hopefully that's

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Speaker 5: going to give me maximum casts, you know, around here

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Speaker 5: and cover as much water as I can.

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Speaker 2: Okay, is that a rooster tail that you found?

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Speaker 5: It is not here. I don't think it came out

632
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 5: of a big box of tangled doors that I've pulled

633
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Speaker 5: off of tree. But yeah, I did find this one,

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Speaker 5: and I've got to back up one over here on

635
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Speaker 5: different rod if I need it.

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Speaker 2: So all right, Bradley, you're one minute of fishing starts

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Speaker 2: when you make that first castle.

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Speaker 5: Let's do it.

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Speaker 2: All right. Bradley's lines in the water had a very

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00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 2: audible cast. That's that's kind of him for our podcast

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Speaker 2: audience to make that so loud. He's already on a

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00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 2: second cast ten seconds in.

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Speaker 3: I like the retrieve. Is it gonna switch it up?

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Speaker 4: Though?

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Speaker 3: I'm wondering if he's gonna stick with a consistent retrieve

646
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Speaker 3: on every one of the cast or do something different.

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Speaker 2: I think if he's gonna switch it up, he's just

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00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 2: going to cast to the other side of the canoe. Oh,

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Speaker 2: there's little twitch.

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Speaker 1: Keep going, keep going.

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00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 2: Thirty seconds left.

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Speaker 3: That's amazing.

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Speaker 2: What was it, Bradley?

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Speaker 3: Let him focus, Let him focus, Get another one?

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Speaker 2: He looks panics now fifteen seconds left. Oh wow, see

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Speaker 2: if he can recover? Can he do it ten seconds ago?

657
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Speaker 2: Brad Wow?

658
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Speaker 6: Alright, final cast twitch and twitch twitch. Oh did not

659
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Speaker 6: happen today? That is your one minute? Tell us what

660
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Speaker 6: happened there on that fish?

661
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Speaker 5: Oh? Brother, he got uh. He swung over the boat

662
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Speaker 5: and then as he swung back, he just flapped his

663
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:46,280
Speaker 5: tail and he was gone.

664
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Speaker 2: It was a small bot of the water.

665
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Speaker 5: It was not It was a like kind of small

666
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 5: blue gill.

667
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Speaker 3: Like I was thinking, maybe that's pretty cool.

668
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Speaker 2: Oh man, Sorry, guys, that that was exciting. Almost happened.

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Speaker 2: We'll have you back on the show, Bradley to do.

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Speaker 5: I would love to. When you started this segment, man,

671
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 5: I was like that that is a segment I would

672
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Speaker 5: love to do someday. So thanks so much for having

673
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Speaker 5: you guys.

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Speaker 4: Oh you did great.

675
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,879
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, Thanks for making great content. Thanks

676
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Speaker 2: for cleaning up after your fellow anglers.

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Speaker 5: Oh, thank you so much.

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00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 3: Oh.

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Speaker 5: The tag is fine dot and dot phish on Instagram.

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Speaker 2: Ah there you go, Gotts check it out.

681
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Speaker 5: Watt, Thanks you guys. We'll see you later.

682
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Speaker 2: All right, we're halfway through the show. Let's take a

683
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Speaker 2: break for some listener feedback. Phil, what's the chat.

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Speaker 4: I have to say, chat's doing great today. Sometimes we're

685
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 4: a little light up questions, but we've got a got

686
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Speaker 4: a surplus right now. Let's see here. Christopher asked Cal

687
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 4: what is some good advice for getting ahead of hunting

688
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:45,359
Speaker 4: bands Washington is now going after regulating coyote hunting with

689
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,720
Speaker 4: no science. He corrected himself in a different comment.

690
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:53,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a great question, you know. I think the

691
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 1: boiler played answer is your means to being proactive is

692
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 1: securing the right to hunt and fish in your state. However,

693
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 1: it's it's always consistent education. I feel like things are

694
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 1: changing now and the state of Washington, if you're a

695
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 1: hunter or an angler, even in that state, you need

696
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 1: to be engaged because nothing is a given. So being

697
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 1: in the room and being consistent is always the best

698
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 1: way to stay ahead of this stuff, which means you

699
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: don't get activated only when times are bad and the

700
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 1: fire is on your doorstep. You got to make make

701
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: sure that you're aware and you can do that by

702
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: you know, being signed on with a bunch of different

703
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: conservation groups in their newsletters so you're aware of what's happening,

704
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Speaker 1: and then figuring out how to make the time to

705
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: show up for the comment periods in person, writing, et cetera.

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Speaker 1: So it's it's a job.

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Speaker 4: Nathan asks, does Mark have a white tailed deer season update?

708
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Speaker 4: What is he doing to prepare for the season this

709
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Speaker 4: time of year?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so the update would be, Uh, I'm on my

711
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 3: homestead of Michigan. Of course, it's going to be a

712
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 3: different year there, because for most of the last decade

713
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Speaker 3: plus more than that now, I've usually had a deer

714
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Speaker 3: or two every year coming into the new season that

715
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 3: I've known from previous years. So I'm like, I'm going

716
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,479
Speaker 3: after this year that year, I'm excited to see this dear.

717
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 3: Every dear I was interested in last year disappeared.

718
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Speaker 2: What do you think happened?

719
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Speaker 1: Using the wrong bait.

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Speaker 3: No bait, no bait kill? So maybe that is the

721
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Speaker 3: wrong bait no bait, but it is legal where I live,

722
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 3: so it is the right choice. I don't know, you

723
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 3: know more, I have a thousand theories to want to

724
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 3: show up though it's not too late for for certain

725
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 3: something will show up. But the question is will a

726
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Speaker 3: deer that I have in a history with show up

727
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 3: again after being gone for you know, twelve months. I

728
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 3: don't know. So all that's to be is that I'm

729
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 3: actually kind of excited about it because it's gonna be

730
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 3: a little bit different. It's gonna be fresh slate, gonna

731
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 3: be a bunch of mystery and going back to just

732
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 3: having fun out there, not worrying about what dear him

733
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Speaker 3: after just sitting out there in the woods, and maybe

734
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Speaker 3: spend some more time, get the boys out there with

735
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Speaker 3: me more and enjoy it in different ways.

736
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Speaker 2: Give me some names though, of the deer who you

737
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Speaker 2: hope might show up.

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Speaker 3: Oh, like, if they were to show back up from

739
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Speaker 3: last year. Oh geez, there was a deer. We call

740
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Speaker 3: it my son. My kids named the deer that I

741
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Speaker 3: that we see now. So my son named this one Bulldozer.

742
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 3: And we found his match set last spring at the

743
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Speaker 3: time he was four found one of these antlers. So like,

744
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 3: very cool that my four year old found this antler

745
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 3: and he's super excited to see this deer. And we

746
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 3: were really hopeful he'd be around last year, and he

747
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 3: was around a couple of times, but disappeared in early November.

748
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Speaker 3: So if he showed back up, he'd be probably a

749
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Speaker 3: six and a half year old buck, which would be

750
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Speaker 3: a very very old buck for our heir, So that'd

751
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 3: be really cool.

752
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 2: It's gonna be any peak or like just starting to

753
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Speaker 2: get beyond it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's one of those deer that isn't gonna, you know,

755
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Speaker 3: raise a whole bunch of eyebrows when it comes to antlers.

756
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 3: But he was a massive bodied deer, like very cool,

757
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,439
Speaker 3: blind in one eye. I thought that was very very cool.

758
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 3: I'd seen him since he was a three year old,

759
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 3: so I watched him as a three, four and five years.

760
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 2: Was he blind as a three year old?

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Speaker 3: It was his I think it was late in his

762
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 3: third year. It was like December when I noticed like, oh,

763
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 3: something happened to that buck. And then the whole fourth

764
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 3: year and then fifth year you could see that very

765
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 3: obviously injured eye. So he would be the one to

766
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 3: be really excited to see. I do know that that's.

767
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Speaker 1: Hard because if you know he's coming in on one side,

768
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: it'd be better to have your tree stand on the

769
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 1: left hand side, the dead eye side. But He's only

770
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Speaker 1: going to turn to the right.

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00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 2: The biggest I do that I ever hunted one that

772
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 2: I like, got to like form a relationship with where

773
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 2: I knew he existed for a number of years. He

774
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 2: was blind to one eye, and it didn't give me

775
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Speaker 2: the advantage I needed to kill him. So it's not

776
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 2: a death sentence, No, no, it's not.

777
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 3: But but yeah, so I'd love for him to show

778
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 3: back up. And then I also drew in Iowa tag

779
00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 3: this year, so I'm very excited to go to Iowa.

780
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 3: It's been a handful of years to.

781
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 2: South North.

782
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Speaker 1: Iowa.

783
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 2: Okay, Iowa. That's a good way to put it.

784
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,720
Speaker 4: What else we got, Phil, We have a Janis asking

785
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,439
Speaker 4: is Mark Kenyan ready to pace Janis in two weeks

786
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 4: at the Crazy Mountain one hundred?

787
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 2: Yes, Janis Janus.

788
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 3: That's very exciting though, guys, I am gonna be pacing

789
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 3: Jannis for the final stretch of his hundred mile runs.

790
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 3: So my segment's just like eight, I think. But I'll

791
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 3: be with him for the final eight, the last eight

792
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:30,919
Speaker 3: miles of his hundred mile race. I will be there

793
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 3: to drag his dead body across the finish line, and

794
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 3: very honored honored to be able to be a part

795
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 3: of that with him.

796
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 2: That's probably the most important position in one hundred mile er.

797
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 3: I would imagine he told me that he thought I'd

798
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 3: be a good pacer because I'm the kind of guy

799
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 3: who would research how to be a good pacer.

800
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 2: I like that.

801
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:51,320
Speaker 3: That sounds on brand.

802
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 4: Give us a few more Phil Yeah, sure, Kyle says

803
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 4: caw will be proud that his call for public action

804
00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 4: prompted me to contact both my senators on this subject.

805
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 4: On that topic, how many calls or signatures signatures would

806
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 4: it take for him to host a round of trivia?

807
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 1: I don't think Spencer would ever trust me with that,

808
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 1: so that's more of a Spencer question.

809
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:15,280
Speaker 2: Kyle asking to host trivia, Oh.

810
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 4: No, no, I think he wants.

811
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Speaker 2: Cal has an open invite. Cal if you ever want

812
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 2: to host trivia, you come and host trivia.

813
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 1: That genuinely surprises me.

814
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 2: Spencer, Oh no, I'd happen happy to have other folks

815
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 2: in this chair. Same goes for Mark. I think Mark

816
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 2: would actually take me up on that.

817
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:37,320
Speaker 1: Okay, it happened, Kyle, though, thank you very much for

818
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 1: for calling your elected officials. The reality is, is anybody

819
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 1: in this room can scream at the top of our

820
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 1: lungs as loud as we can and as long as

821
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 1: we can, and unless other people join in, we're just

822
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,320
Speaker 1: not going to be effective. Like it is the definition

823
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 1: of a team effort, and we can't do it without you.

824
00:43:58,760 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 1: So thank you.

825
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 3: So silver lining of the whole public land sale issue

826
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 3: that we've experienced over the last couple of months is

827
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 3: that I think a whole lot of people finally did this,

828
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,359
Speaker 3: finally picked up the phone and gave folks a call.

829
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 3: I can think of so many people I've talked to

830
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 3: personally who were like, Hey, I finally did it. It

831
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 3: wasn't that bad. I think people realize that it's not

832
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,399
Speaker 3: as hard as you think. It's not intimidating, you don't

833
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 3: need to be an expert, you don't have to debate

834
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 3: anyone on the other side of the line, and it

835
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 3: can make a difference. We saw that by picking up

836
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 3: the phone and all of us from all you know,

837
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 3: from all stripes of life, we all came together and

838
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 3: made these phone calls and sent these emails, and it

839
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 3: did make a difference. And so I think hopefully to

840
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 3: your point earlier with you know, whether it be rights

841
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 3: to hunt and predator hunting, all these different things. We're

842
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 3: gonna need to keep doing that, and I think more

843
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 3: people are confident and comfortable doing that moving forward.

844
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, And in the couple days leading up to it

845
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 2: finally getting pulled from the bill, there were two things

846
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 2: that encourage me that like the tides were turning on this.

847
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 2: One was that on Twitter, which is where I get

848
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 2: my sports news, that people were tweeting about this for

849
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 2: the first time in my lifetime. It like Twitter became

850
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 2: a platform where it wasn't hunters and anglers either, who

851
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,760
Speaker 2: like cared about this thing and who were talking about

852
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 2: it and it was like trending on Twitter for a

853
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,800
Speaker 2: few days. Mike Lee was the other thing that was

854
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 2: very encouraging was Mike Lee that Giant Douchebag had tweeted

855
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 2: out that he he wondered aloud, who was funding all

856
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 2: of this, Who was who was organizing this amount of feedback?

857
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 1: I know who's paying me to try to get this stuff?

858
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 5: It was.

859
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 2: It was so overwhelming from the people listening to this

860
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 2: show and beyond that that he made the assumption that

861
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 2: there was some books shadow. Yes, right, So that's that's

862
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 2: how powerful your voices were on this message. Let's do

863
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 2: one more, Phil.

864
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 4: Okay, let's see here, Phil from Logan, I need to

865
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 4: know who's your favorite character and Lord of the Rings.

866
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 4: First person that popped into my head was that fool

867
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 4: of a took Pippin Pip and took Udal. Oh well,

868
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 4: I mean, you know that's what I said. Though I

869
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 4: know that's too obvious, but I was. I'm referring to Peregrine.

870
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 4: His ark and Return of the King is my favorite.

871
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,839
Speaker 4: And when Billy Boyd sings Stewart have Gone or It,

872
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:15,240
Speaker 4: it moves me, It stirs my bones.

873
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna need some sort of a mashup of this,

874
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 1: Phil to understand what you just said.

875
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:24,359
Speaker 4: In your spare time, I'll get to work on that.

876
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 2: Our next segment is The Price is right.

877
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 4: Here. It comes from Bozeman, Montana Media Radio's most Exciting

878
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 4: ten minutes.

879
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 2: It's the Prices right Yes, Mary, come.

880
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 4: On down, Callahan, come on down. Your next two contestants

881
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:55,240
Speaker 4: on media Radios The Prices right now. Here's your host,

882
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:57,720
Speaker 4: Spencer new Home.

883
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 2: Thank you. Well, this is the candy that I was

884
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 2: referring to earlier in the episode that we'd get to

885
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 2: Now this game is really simple. What do you got cals?

886
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 1: I said. If you don't sign off by saying remember

887
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 1: to get your dogs and cats neutered, I'm gonna beat.

888
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:11,760
Speaker 2: I have it in my script.

889
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 1: Thank god, thank god.

890
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 2: This game is really simple. Phil is going to tell

891
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 2: you about a product from the Meat Eater universe, and

892
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 2: you need to guess its price. The player with the

893
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 2: closest answer without going over, will be declared the winner.

894
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 2: If both players go over, then you'll both be told

895
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 2: to try again, and the chat should play along as well,

896
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 2: because whoever has the closest answer will get a shout

897
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 2: out from Phil. All right, this week all three products

898
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 2: are from Facebook marketplace. Phil tell us about the first

899
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 2: item up forbid.

900
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, we will do, and we're doing it slightly different,

901
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:49,839
Speaker 4: so so forgive me here. Let's see here. Let's start

902
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 4: today's bidding with some utility metal trays in Belgrade, Montana.

903
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 4: There's eighth of an sheets of aluminum were originally fabricated

904
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 4: as cadaver trays during COVID, but the seller says be

905
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 4: useful to any hunter as a butchering station or for

906
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 4: gear storage in the back of your truck. No more

907
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 4: allowing blood to freely flow across your kitchen table and

908
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 4: no more awkwardly crawling across the bed of your pickup

909
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 4: to reach that lantern. He also says they were great

910
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 4: great for hydroponic gardening or as shelves in your garage.

911
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,760
Speaker 4: This has us here in the studio wondering what cant

912
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 4: a cadaver or trade do?

913
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 2: That's right, Phil, this is surely a listing that'll knock

914
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 2: him dead. All right, calin Mark, what is the price

915
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 2: for one of those trays off of Facebook market? It's

916
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 2: just one trade, that's what he had the price. We're

917
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 2: just looking for one tray. If you want, he said

918
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 2: in his listing, you could get a good deal by

919
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 2: buying that whole dang set up there, buying multiple trays

920
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 2: at a time. But we're just spying one tray. And

921
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 2: these are six and a half feet long, two and

922
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 2: a half feet wide, and they're built with quote marine

923
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 2: edge that has full fluid retention.

924
00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 1: I mean that's an expensive deal. Welded aluminum.

925
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 2: Uh huh, these were designed to be cadaver trays.

926
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 4: Uh.

927
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:06,399
Speaker 2: But this this guy is sure that any outdoorsman could

928
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 2: use one of these, Cal, what would you do with

929
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 2: one of them? Trays.

930
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 1: Oh, I think that'd be a killer thing to just

931
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: haul out and put on the kitchen counter when you're

932
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 1: butcher and stuff. Sure, easy to clean, Hit it with

933
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 1: a little little blee och and you're good to go. Yeah,

934
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 1: I mean i'd take a cadaver tray.

935
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 2: Belgrade, Montana. That's uh, that's realistic.

936
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 1: Actually, yeah, boy, that's a tough one.

937
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 2: How you boys doing? Do you have an answer? Again?

938
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 2: This is just for one tray we're pricing six and

939
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 2: a half feet long, two and a half feet wide,

940
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 2: made of aluminum. And you can see in one of

941
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 2: the details of his photos he shows you his welding ability.

942
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 2: How's that weld look to you?

943
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 4: Cal Oh, it's beautiful.

944
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 2: He's a good welder.

945
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 3: But that has nothing to do with what we're purchasing

946
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 3: to no.

947
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 2: No, But it gives you some confidence in the cellar

948
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 2: that this man takes a lot of pride in his

949
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:59,439
Speaker 2: cadaver trade work. Yeah, all right, you boys have an answer? Yeah,

950
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 2: I guess, So go ahead and reveal your answers. We

951
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 2: have Mark Kenyon saying thirty five dollars, Brian Callahan saying

952
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:08,839
Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty dollars.

953
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 1: Oh, I won that I'm way low.

954
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 2: The correct answer is one hundred and fifty dollars, giving

955
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 2: Ryan Callahan the first point. He was twenty dollars off.

956
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 2: This seller says he'll cut you a deal if you

957
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:25,880
Speaker 2: buy four or more Phil. How'd the chat do?

958
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 4: We had a couple of people get it right on

959
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,839
Speaker 4: the money. We had Brendan say one to fifty, Yang

960
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 4: bren Eathan also saying one fifty.

961
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 2: Well done. Brendan and Nathan Mark.

962
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:38,439
Speaker 3: Some stainless deal trays before Cal.

963
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 1: I mean, you just know the material that's expensive. I

964
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 1: mean that's expensive, six and.

965
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:45,280
Speaker 2: A half feet of aluminum.

966
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:46,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, I supposed to be half.

967
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 2: I'll let you know, Mark. I don't think Cal's ever

968
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 2: lost this game. So really, you're coming in up against

969
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:52,800
Speaker 2: our toughest opponent.

970
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:55,919
Speaker 1: And this is intimidating. I mean, just so people don't

971
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 1: understand the context of my buying habits, I'm wearing a

972
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 1: five year old free T shirt right now, like, not

973
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 1: out there hitting the marketplace.

974
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 2: I spent a lot of time on Facebook Marketplace get well.

975
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 3: I do feel that, given what you just said there,

976
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 3: you might be the kind of person who buys their

977
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 3: clothes and stuff on Facebook Marketplace.

978
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 4: Oh, Goodwill.

979
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's hard for I avoid Goodwill because I

980
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 1: always come out of there with more stuff than I.

981
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 2: Find you in goodwill. That's what happened to me, all right,

982
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:28,800
Speaker 2: Phil tell us about the second item up forbid.

983
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 4: Next up is a pheasant print love seat with a

984
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 4: hideaway bed in Colton, South Dakota. This love seat is

985
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 4: pure Grandma core furniture aka granny chic. You know what

986
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 4: I'm talking about. It's those loud, nostalgic designs that are

987
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 4: printed with a repeating image of a rustic barn with

988
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 4: a farm plow perched outside, or an old mill with

989
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 4: a working water wheel, or a floral pattern consisting of

990
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 4: red and orange and gold flowers. But at least those

991
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 4: ugly couches were comfortable, right, No, absolutely not. The scratchy

992
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 4: fabric would give you a rash, and the wood trim

993
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 4: darms are more likely to give you a neck then

994
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 4: a good night's sleep. This particular couch is printed with

995
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 4: a flushing pheasant pattern, so you know Grandpa had to

996
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:07,919
Speaker 4: say in it's purchase. It's the perfect spot to watch

997
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 4: your favorite episode of Green Acres and the Leftovers out

998
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 4: of a country crock tub.

999
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 2: And it was off Facebook marketplace before I could message

1000
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 2: the seller to buy it myself. This listing disappeared in

1001
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:20,760
Speaker 2: just seventeen hours.

1002
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:22,399
Speaker 3: Now I want to make sure I got this right

1003
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 3: because I do think uh cost of living in the

1004
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 3: regions for sale matters. So did you say this was

1005
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 3: in South Dakota Holton, South Dakota.

1006
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 2: This is about thirty minutes outside of their biggest city,

1007
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 2: Sioux Falls. So eastern South Dakota is where this came from.

1008
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 2: It's already gone, though. I wish I could have logistically

1009
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 2: figured out how to make this my own, but I

1010
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 2: could not.

1011
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 3: I could see in some places this could go for

1012
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 3: a lot of money in one of the in the

1013
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 3: kind of like that like like like your wife is

1014
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 3: into she's kind of into like that old like boutique

1015
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 3: old stuff and making it new. Aga I do.

1016
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 2: And this is in you know, the hunting the pheasant

1017
00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 2: hunting lodge capital of the world. So what a piece

1018
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 2: Green Acres? Phil Did you love Green Acres?

1019
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 4: I don't think I've seen an episode of great but

1020
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 4: you know what song?

1021
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 1: Right?

1022
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, sure.

1023
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 7: Acres is the place to be far farm for me,

1024
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 7: farm spread out far and wide.

1025
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 1: Keep just give me that country side. There we go.

1026
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 2: We know it all right? You boys ready go ahead

1027
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 2: and reveal your answers. We have Mark saying one hundred

1028
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 2: and fifty dollars and Ryan Callahan saying sixty four dollars.

1029
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 2: The correct answer. It's seventy five dollars, giving Ryan Callahan

1030
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:43,320
Speaker 2: the second point just eleven dollars off the correct answer.

1031
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 1: What screws me up is what I think it's listed

1032
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 1: for versus what i'd offer.

1033
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 2: Sure rtt sixty four dollars. Pretty good deal. And it's

1034
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 2: a hideaway bed on top of that.

1035
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm walking away with that thing at right and

1036
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 1: fifty no more.

1037
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 2: Like I said, it disappeared in seventeen hours. There must

1038
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:03,360
Speaker 2: have been some real demand. All right, Cal has already

1039
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 2: wrapped up the victory, but we'll see if he can

1040
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 2: get a clean sweep and make Mark run around the

1041
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 2: building naked ass this tradition really quick.

1042
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 4: We had Odie the Good Shepherd with seventy five, Real

1043
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 4: with seventy five, and Spencer two point Oho with seventy five.

1044
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 2: Well done, you three, all right, Phil tell us about

1045
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 2: the third item up forbid today.

1046
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:28,479
Speaker 4: Our final item today is first light gear that's being

1047
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:31,879
Speaker 4: sold by a former Meat Eater employee. He's got four

1048
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:34,839
Speaker 4: items available, including a brand new Refuge parka, a brand

1049
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:38,400
Speaker 4: new Lzie jacket, a like new Sanctuary two point zero jacket,

1050
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 4: and a like new Kiln hoodie. He says it's great

1051
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 4: gear and he's happy to provide references, including from some

1052
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 4: folks who actually work at First Light, no kidding. And

1053
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 4: you can feel good about your purchase because it's helping

1054
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:50,439
Speaker 4: him fund a down payment to his first home.

1055
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, he says, these items are priced to move. It's

1056
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 2: almost as though he got them for free, had a

1057
00:54:56,800 --> 00:55:00,800
Speaker 2: discounted ray cal and mark what is his asking price

1058
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 2: for those four pieces together? All four together, it was

1059
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:11,320
Speaker 2: a refuge parka Elz jacket, Sanctuary two point zero jacket,

1060
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 2: and Kilm hoodie.

1061
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 3: That's a lot.

1062
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 2: I pull those four items.

1063
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 3: Together, price to go. And he's trying to buy a house.

1064
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 2: He's trying to buy a house, he says. And I

1065
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 2: like this individual, so I'm not gonna rat him out

1066
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 2: too bad.

1067
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 4: Just who it is.

1068
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:28,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like someone's gonna snoop this guy out

1069
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 3: and he's gonna get alas.

1070
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 2: It's gone, it's sold. You'll never You'll never solve this mystery.

1071
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 2: What is the asking price for these four first Light items?

1072
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:42,720
Speaker 2: Kel loves that Refuge Park. I know it.

1073
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's burly, it's amazing. I mean, I

1074
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 1: let snort use it as like a blind dog bit

1075
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 1: what a compliment a whole year because it wasn't like

1076
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:55,320
Speaker 1: cold enough for me to wear it, but I wanted

1077
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 1: to get the wear and tear in there, so like

1078
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:02,319
Speaker 1: dog pieing and muff and all the stuff. And it's

1079
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 1: still totally waterproof and it's a great, great jacket.

1080
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:09,799
Speaker 2: Again, it's a Refuge parka LZ jacket, Sanctuary two point

1081
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:13,800
Speaker 2: zero jacket, and a like new Kiln hoodie. You boys

1082
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,720
Speaker 2: have your answer, yeah, yeah, go ahead and reveal your answer.

1083
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:20,280
Speaker 2: We have Ryan Callahan Callahan saying five hundred and fifty dollars.

1084
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 2: Mark Kenyon says five hundred dollars. The correct answer is

1085
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:29,760
Speaker 2: seven hundred and fifty dollars. Giving Ryan Callahan the third

1086
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:33,319
Speaker 2: point and the clean sweep now purchase new, they'd be

1087
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 2: worth over fourteen hundred dollars. Yeah, you're getting these at

1088
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 2: fifty percent off.

1089
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:39,839
Speaker 4: You had been in the chat with six fifty, who

1090
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 4: I think was the closest.

1091
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 2: Oh, well done, Ben, I like that guy.

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Speaker 6: All right.

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00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 2: That's the end of today's game of Price is Right.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for playing along, and remember to help control the

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00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 2: pet population. Have your pets spaded neutered?

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00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:54,799
Speaker 1: Love that great job.

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00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,880
Speaker 2: Drew Carrey. He's been hosting Prices Right for eighteen years now.

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00:56:57,880 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 2: If you'd like to feel old.

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00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:02,799
Speaker 1: I've never that's ever watched Drew Carey Prices Right.

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00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 3: Did you ever watch Drew carry On? Whose line is

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00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 3: it anyway?

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00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 1: No?

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00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:08,359
Speaker 3: No, that's what I used to watch.

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00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 2: I'd liked Drew carry On The Drew Carrey.

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00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 4: Show, Cleveland Rot.

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00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, an amazing, amazing intro. That that was when people

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00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 2: cared about the music that played, uh for the the

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00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 2: intro of their.

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00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 4: Scop good stuff. Coorey Graph dances through the streets.

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00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 2: Well, and they had to change who's that President's of

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00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 2: the United States of America?

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00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 4: I think so?

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00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, And then they had to change that intro a

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00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 2: few times.

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00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 4: Oh I didn't I didn't know this all right.

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00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 2: Our next segment is show and tell.

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00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 7: Man shot down.

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00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 2: Man, shot down.

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00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 3: Man?

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00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 2: A short.

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00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 1: Spencer, Spencer have a doctor's appointment and in three.

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00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 2: Minutes, all right, caw, what did you bring to show?

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00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 2: The classroom today.

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00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 1: What were we supposed to bring, span, sir Jeezu. I

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00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 1: brought a good attitude, okay, and uh.

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00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 4: Somehow worse than the shoe last time.

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00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 3: Did you ever I'm.

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00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 1: Wearing flip flops today?

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00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 3: Does caliber open emails?

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00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 1: I do. There's just a lot of them, A lot

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00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 1: of them.

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00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 1: As I nervously scan for I have.

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00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 2: A piece.

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00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 4: I can tell you more about this.

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00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 1: Track P.

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00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:30,919
Speaker 5: Four.

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00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 4: I bought it for cow so you can have a

1139
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 4: more compact setup for his remote podcast interviews. Because he's

1140
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 4: a man. He's a man on the road. He's busy.

1141
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 2: Someday that's gonna end up in good Will.

1142
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 1: Out out there and long and lonesome.

1143
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 2: All right, Marcus, what did you bring for show and tell?

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00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 3: I brought a very small caribou antler from the Arctic

1145
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 3: National Wow. We were finding all sorts of caribou sheds

1146
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 3: throughout our adventure that we told everybody about, and some

1147
00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 3: big ones. But I got to thinking, man, I can't.

1148
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 3: Maybe I could bring one big one home. It'd be

1149
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 3: a little bit of a hassle. But the problem is

1150
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 3: you can't bring one home of anything in my household

1151
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 3: because I've got two sons oh, if you've got one,

1152
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 3: you've got none. So I wasn't gonna bring two huge

1153
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 3: caribous sheds back with everything else. So I decided to

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00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 3: search out the smallest antlers I could find.

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00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 2: How many antlers did you guys see? Oh jeez, I

1156
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 2: mean quite a few, but put a number on it.

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00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 1: I've found three moose antlers.

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00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I mean how I at the Arctic National

1159
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 2: Wildlife right, okay.

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00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, yep, but total antlers. I mean we just we

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00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 3: wouldn't even go pick them up. You would just see

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00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 3: them offrom the distance. I would say, you know, more

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00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 3: than fifty.

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00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably brought home in the smallest one.

1165
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 3: So I brought the two smallest ones I could find,

1166
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 3: and this is one of them. And the boys were

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00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 3: very excited with them, and they keep them in their

1168
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 3: bedroom now and it feels pretty, uh pretty zotic to them,

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00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 3: a cariboul antler that they can touch and feel and say,

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00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 3: the dad found this in Alaska and kind of a

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00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:58,000
Speaker 3: fun story for them to.

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Speaker 2: I can't believe their peddicle is even that even at

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01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 2: their their youngest antler development age.

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01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 1: Well yeah, and I mean that that could have been

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01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 1: an off a cow.

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01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:10,360
Speaker 3: So female sitting.

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Speaker 4: Point, Brent says, it's the antler from the Grinches dog.

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01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, it's pretty good.

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01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 2: It does look like Yeah.

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01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I won Dad of the Week award with these.

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01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:23,440
Speaker 2: Now, how did you decide which son got which antler?

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01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 3: That was a little bit of like a push and

1183
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 3: shove and see who grabbed what first. Oh. I stayed

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01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 3: out of that one.

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01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 2: Uh huh.

1186
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 3: But they were both happy with what they ended up with.

1187
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 3: And uh, I'm very excited to bring those back and

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01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 3: show their buddies here in a month or so.

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01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 2: You see how easy that is. Cal. You must have

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01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 2: one hundred antlers at your house.

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01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 3: You could have brought I do.

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Speaker 1: I got a billion things going through my brain at

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01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:47,440
Speaker 1: every second, though, too, so it was hard to keep

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01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 1: it straight.

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Speaker 3: I thought, Cal, I thought you were going to bring

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01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 3: your mooseshed, because I did have. Cal's got a cool

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01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 3: moosehed story from our trip, if we have time to

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Speaker 3: tell it.

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Speaker 1: I packed a huge moose shed home all the way

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01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 1: only was here to look at yeah, and I just yeah.

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01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 3: But the way you found it, well, we flew.

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01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 5: Over it.

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01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:09,919
Speaker 1: And somebody in the plane made the comment like, oh,

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01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 1: that's a hikeable distance from camp. You No, not me.

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01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:16,920
Speaker 1: But when we landed the whole time, I was like,

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01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:21,000
Speaker 1: that's a lot further away. You'd cover a lot of

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01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 1: ground on a plane, right, And yeah, So I just

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01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 1: started hiking and eventually did did come across it, but

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01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 1: also found like an old caribou deadhead that was faced

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01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 1: down in the muskeg and the antlers were like sinking

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01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 1: into the muskeg, like it's going to be a fossil

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01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:43,960
Speaker 1: here in another thousand years, you know. And yeah, real,

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01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 1: real cool, just big long slog. But found that brought

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01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 1: it all the way back.

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01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 2: I wish I could see it. Yeah, I'd love to

1216
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 2: be holding that thing right now.

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01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 1: Yeah. It impressed the hell out of the ups driver

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01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 1: the other day.

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01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:59,240
Speaker 2: So all right, My Show and Tell item is a stamp.

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01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 2: This is a stamp that my wife got me this year,

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01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:04,680
Speaker 2: the last time we were in New York City. And

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01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 2: this is a book stamp so that I can stamp

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Speaker 2: all of my books. It says from the Library of Spencer,

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01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:15,760
Speaker 2: New Arth. It's got a shirtless Smoky the Bear on

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01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:19,080
Speaker 2: there who's holding a shovel. And this way, when Mark

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01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:22,440
Speaker 2: Kenyon wants to borrow a book from me, he knows

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01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 2: that he has to give it back. There's no arguing

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01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 2: because all of my books now have this stamp in them.

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01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 3: Thank you for doing this, Spencer, because all of my

1230
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 3: friends think I'm the biggest nerve in the world. Oh,

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01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:38,360
Speaker 3: I have something similar. Instead of an ink stamp, I've

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01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:43,480
Speaker 3: got one of the things where having ye press it

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01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 3: presses a crest onto my book that shows from the

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01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:48,960
Speaker 3: library of Mark Kenyon. And they think I'm a total goober.

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01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 3: So thank you my wife joining me in this.

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01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:55,320
Speaker 2: So this is one of my favorite gifts I've ever gone.

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01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:58,960
Speaker 2: It's Smoky the Bear telling everyone that that is my

1238
01:02:59,080 --> 01:02:59,640
Speaker 2: damn book.

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01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:01,160
Speaker 6: All right.

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01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:03,120
Speaker 2: That brings us to the end of the show. Let's

1241
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:05,480
Speaker 2: get some final feedback from the listeners. Phil what's the

1242
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 2: chat have to say?

1243
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:06,960
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1244
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 4: Question from Mark. He says, we started planning out an

1245
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:12,959
Speaker 4: Alaska caribou hunt in five years and this new bill

1246
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 4: is putting a wrench in it. My dad says we

1247
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:18,040
Speaker 4: shouldn't hunt them because we'd be putting additional stress on

1248
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:19,600
Speaker 4: the herd. And then he followed it up with just

1249
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:20,920
Speaker 4: like general thoughts from you.

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01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:26,520
Speaker 3: Guys man the Porcupine caribou herd, which is the herd

1251
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 3: here in the refuge where this is happening, is one

1252
01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:33,040
Speaker 3: of the only caribou herds that's not in decline right now.

1253
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:36,560
Speaker 3: Most others are plummeting. This one has been doing pretty

1254
01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:40,920
Speaker 3: decent at the moment. But this could change things. I

1255
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 3: mean it could. We just don't know yet when all

1256
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:46,360
Speaker 3: this is going to start happening and what that's going

1257
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 3: to look like. So I guess I'm going to put

1258
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:51,040
Speaker 3: my faith in the Alaska fishing game and hope that

1259
01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 3: they are going to adjust taggle allocations if things start

1260
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:59,240
Speaker 3: going nose down. But I would be keeping tabs on it.

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01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:02,280
Speaker 1: Oh and the other thing is like people need to

1262
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:06,360
Speaker 1: go up and see this area and have these adventures.

1263
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:11,240
Speaker 1: Once you do, you can't think, oh, man, this would

1264
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:17,040
Speaker 1: be better if we were developing it for anything other

1265
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:20,040
Speaker 1: than what it's constantly doing, which is, you know, creating

1266
01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 1: unbelievable amounts of life. Right, So I think it's important

1267
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:25,800
Speaker 1: that you go on that hunt.

1268
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:28,320
Speaker 2: Also, a lot can change in five years. A lot

1269
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 2: can change in six months, which is about the amount

1270
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:34,040
Speaker 2: of time that's taken for this big, beautiful bill to happen.

1271
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:37,040
Speaker 2: For the Trump administration. Also, I think probably one of

1272
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:40,000
Speaker 2: the hardest parts for people to plan in Alaska hunt

1273
01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:43,280
Speaker 2: or trip is just saving the money. So I don't know,

1274
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 2: keep planning that trip for five years from now.

1275
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's there's a heck of a lot of

1276
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:49,720
Speaker 3: stuff to do up there even if the caribou hunt

1277
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 3: doesn't happen for one reason or another. There's amazing rafting opportunities,

1278
01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:56,640
Speaker 3: hiking opportunities, backpacking, bird watching. I mean, see it one

1279
01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:57,160
Speaker 3: way or another.

1280
01:04:57,360 --> 01:05:01,160
Speaker 4: Yeap, Carl as Spencer your favorite bar in Yankton?

1281
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 2: Oh glad you asked, Carl the ice House. That's just

1282
01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:07,240
Speaker 2: like a classic answer. I think everyone who's been to

1283
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:09,560
Speaker 2: Yankton and ben to a bar there, that's their favorite bar.

1284
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 2: It's right next to the Missouri River. You've got great scenery,

1285
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:16,040
Speaker 2: and then when you finish your drink, you order a bottle.

1286
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:18,560
Speaker 2: Of course, you get to smash that bottle against the

1287
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:22,600
Speaker 2: building underneath their patty. It's very satisfying experience. It's very

1288
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 2: motivating to have that next beer, not in the recycling

1289
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:29,400
Speaker 2: their home, recycling it right back to the earth under

1290
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:32,400
Speaker 2: that porch. Okay, what else you got, Phil.

1291
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 4: Jeremy says, question for the crew, I'm about to take

1292
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:36,560
Speaker 4: a mate in his first real hunt, do I put

1293
01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:38,440
Speaker 4: him up front and give him the best cracker as

1294
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:40,440
Speaker 4: a watch and learn approach better.

1295
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:48,000
Speaker 1: Feel it out, very dynamic situation. My only thing that

1296
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:50,960
Speaker 1: I would tell you have to do is put that

1297
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:54,520
Speaker 1: person in a situation where they can try to make

1298
01:05:54,560 --> 01:06:00,200
Speaker 1: their own informed decisions. You know, it's just not very

1299
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:03,920
Speaker 1: impactful if you are doing all the hunting and then

1300
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:09,160
Speaker 1: you're like, hey, pull the trigger right, y'all. I'll put

1301
01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:12,560
Speaker 1: them in a position to where they'd start learning the

1302
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:15,760
Speaker 1: hunting and have to make some of those decisions along

1303
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:17,880
Speaker 1: the way.

1304
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:19,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wouldn't argue with that. I would also say,

1305
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:23,160
Speaker 3: I mean, it depends on what their exposure is to

1306
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:26,400
Speaker 3: the experience preceding this one hunt, Like if they have

1307
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 3: if they're coming right off the couch and have done

1308
01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:30,640
Speaker 3: nothing out of here like this, I would say that's

1309
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:33,080
Speaker 3: probably it'd be a lot to throw you right into

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01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 3: the fire right away and tell you, hey, you're hunting

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01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 3: and shoot. It might be worth letting them tag along

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01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:39,920
Speaker 3: for a while. But I've had plenty of times where

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01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:42,200
Speaker 3: someone's been exploring these things.

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Speaker 2: On their own.

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01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:44,920
Speaker 3: They've been dabbling, they've been testing, they've been watching they've

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01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:46,720
Speaker 3: been thinking about it and they just need someone with

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01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:49,600
Speaker 3: them for that final step to really go on a

1318
01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:54,040
Speaker 3: real hunt. But they've been slowly getting there. In that case,

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01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:56,200
Speaker 3: then yeah, give them those opportunities. But I agree with

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01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 3: what you're saying, Ko.

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01:06:57,000 --> 01:07:00,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think when I'm with an inexperienced hunter, top

1322
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:02,800
Speaker 2: things I noticed that they struggle with is the speed

1323
01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:05,480
Speaker 2: of things. Whether it's like now you have to be

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01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:08,920
Speaker 2: really slow and like treat each one of these moments

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01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:10,560
Speaker 2: like it really matters, or now you got to go

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01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 2: really fast, like you got to make a decision, you

1327
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:14,600
Speaker 2: got to get to this spot, you have to like

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01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:16,280
Speaker 2: do this next thing. So I think if you can

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01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:18,560
Speaker 2: get them to tag along and just watch and try

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01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:21,200
Speaker 2: to get a feel for when things need to be slow,

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01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:22,840
Speaker 2: you go slow. When things need to be fast, you

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01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:25,200
Speaker 2: go fast, it's just gonna put them in a better position.

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01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:29,000
Speaker 4: Cool, do a couple more. Uh where was the one?

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:31,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, Nate asks, He's well. First, he says, he's chasing

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01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:33,680
Speaker 4: his first buck in South Dakota this year. What time

1337
01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:35,640
Speaker 4: of year do you know a buck is looking like

1338
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:37,400
Speaker 4: it's gonna be a big one? Is there a saying

1339
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:39,560
Speaker 4: like with corn me high by fourth of July.

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01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:42,240
Speaker 1: Oh you shuah, I should come up with one right now,

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01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:44,120
Speaker 1: you know.

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Speaker 3: For me, usually in July you're like, okay, that's probably

1343
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:50,280
Speaker 3: gonna be a good one. But really, once once August hits,

1344
01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:52,200
Speaker 3: then you know, like, oh yeah, like that, you know

1345
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:54,720
Speaker 3: what a buck's gonna be once August rolls around, and

1346
01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:57,000
Speaker 3: then by at least you know places I spend time

1347
01:07:57,040 --> 01:07:59,040
Speaker 3: by mid August, they're basically what they're gonna be. They

1348
01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:02,800
Speaker 3: start hardening from mid August, from mid August on and

1349
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:05,440
Speaker 3: then peel velvet that first week of September, give or

1350
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:07,880
Speaker 3: take you know a little bit. So yeah, in July

1351
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:09,960
Speaker 3: you're getting like a general sense of who I think so,

1352
01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:11,960
Speaker 3: and then August you know, so yeah.

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01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:15,560
Speaker 2: In July you're probably looking at antlers that have like

1354
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:19,479
Speaker 2: a hot dog shape almost they're like still bulbous. You'll

1355
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:21,600
Speaker 2: have a good idea. I don't think you're going to

1356
01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:24,360
Speaker 2: be surprised if you get a book on trail camera

1357
01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:27,080
Speaker 2: two weeks from now. I don't think you're going to

1358
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:29,680
Speaker 2: be shocked in August at what that deer looks like.

1359
01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:31,719
Speaker 2: So you'll have a good idea right now.

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01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:32,880
Speaker 1: Cool.

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01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:35,240
Speaker 4: Just to follow up on the book talk Spencer asks

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01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:38,120
Speaker 4: if anything's if anybody is reading anything good in any

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01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:40,000
Speaker 4: book recommendations.

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Speaker 3: The Quiet World by Douglas Brinkley would be one I'd

1365
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:47,719
Speaker 3: recommend for anyone who's been intrigued by our conversation today.

1366
01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:52,479
Speaker 3: That book's all about the history of public lands and

1367
01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:57,559
Speaker 3: wildlife and conservation in Alaska. Fascinating history of how the

1368
01:08:57,640 --> 01:09:01,240
Speaker 3: Alaska we know today came to be. The many battles

1369
01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:03,360
Speaker 3: like what we've been talking about today have been happening

1370
01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:07,400
Speaker 3: for decades and decades, various iterations of it. Super interesting,

1371
01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:10,320
Speaker 3: very interesting characters. Many of the names that you've heard

1372
01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:14,640
Speaker 3: in podcasts on meat or within films or wherever it

1373
01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:18,120
Speaker 3: might be, stuff like Eldo Leopold, Bob Marshall, Olas Muri,

1374
01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:23,400
Speaker 3: John Muir, Theodore Roosevelt. All these people had a really

1375
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:26,519
Speaker 3: integral part of Alaska's history as well that I think

1376
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:28,120
Speaker 3: most people don't know. I didn't know a lot of

1377
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:31,040
Speaker 3: this stuff, even as someone who's written about this extensively.

1378
01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:35,920
Speaker 3: So fascinating and a pretty page turner of a history book.

1379
01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:38,599
Speaker 3: So that's The Quiet World by Douglas Brinkley.

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01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:42,479
Speaker 2: I'm on my twenty sixth book of the year right now,

1381
01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:46,559
Speaker 2: it's the Pirates Code. It's all about pirates. It's okay,

1382
01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 2: it's fine. It's gonna be like a three and a

1383
01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:50,080
Speaker 2: half star book for me when I'm done. I think

1384
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:52,880
Speaker 2: the best thing I've read at is of late Ridgeline.

1385
01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:55,880
Speaker 2: We had Michael punk on the Mediater podcast a few

1386
01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:58,920
Speaker 2: years ago. He also wrote The Revenant. That is a

1387
01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:02,559
Speaker 2: great work of historical fiction. Would would recommend that to

1388
01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:06,400
Speaker 2: anyone who is interested in in that subject matter. Also,

1389
01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:08,680
Speaker 2: Wolf Island. I bought that book while I was at

1390
01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:12,559
Speaker 2: Isle Royale and I loved it. It was to read

1391
01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:18,080
Speaker 2: list really really fascinating stuff. And a book always feels

1392
01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:20,320
Speaker 2: like it's stronger when it has a first hand account.

1393
01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:23,920
Speaker 2: And this is written by one of those biologists who

1394
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:27,360
Speaker 2: was one of the first people to work on the

1395
01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:31,759
Speaker 2: moose and wolf relationship of Isle Royale. It's a great reader,

1396
01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:33,759
Speaker 2: especially if you're interested in that part of the world.

1397
01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:37,040
Speaker 3: David meach Right or Max something like that. Nb H.

1398
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:42,759
Speaker 1: Heck, yeah, I just got The Warriors Garden by Richard

1399
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:46,920
Speaker 1: Ryan in the mail, so I'm gonna start digging digging

1400
01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:47,280
Speaker 1: through that.

1401
01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:51,160
Speaker 2: My next book was actually recommended by Phil's wife, Adrian.

1402
01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:56,200
Speaker 2: The feather thief. So I'm very excited about that. One's interesting.

1403
01:10:56,240 --> 01:10:59,240
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's like a three day book. Good it's

1404
01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:00,040
Speaker 1: a fast.

1405
01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:02,000
Speaker 2: One, all right. That brings us to the end of

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01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:06,559
Speaker 2: the show. Thanks Cal, Thanks Marcus. Thanks back here next week.

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Speaker 2: Good time now