1 00:00:03,789 --> 00:00:09,189 Speaker 1: Dubb Dynasty is a production of iHeartMedia and the NBA. 2 00:00:09,469 --> 00:00:12,588 Speaker 2: Hard We backs off on Tom's hold and he exploded 3 00:00:12,629 --> 00:00:19,909 Speaker 2: it go. That was brilliant, every bit as good as 4 00:00:20,029 --> 00:00:23,029 Speaker 2: Richmond's move in the first half. Pretty miraculous move. He 5 00:00:23,149 --> 00:00:25,029 Speaker 2: left Isaiah just nailed to the floor. 6 00:00:25,109 --> 00:00:29,069 Speaker 3: It got the entire Warriors bench on its feet. 7 00:00:29,069 --> 00:00:30,629 Speaker 2: The killer Crossole. 8 00:00:31,789 --> 00:00:34,509 Speaker 1: Slices and dice perfections. 9 00:00:35,709 --> 00:00:37,708 Speaker 3: Five minutes to go on the third seal by. 10 00:00:37,629 --> 00:00:38,629 Speaker 2: Redford behind the left. 11 00:00:38,669 --> 00:00:39,589 Speaker 4: The hardaway, by the. 12 00:00:39,589 --> 00:00:43,189 Speaker 2: Way, lays it up in there. Ron hagens better than 13 00:00:43,229 --> 00:00:44,269 Speaker 2: Needle the wrichment. 14 00:00:43,989 --> 00:00:44,949 Speaker 5: He does can. 15 00:00:46,349 --> 00:00:47,668 Speaker 2: Richmond opened from nineteen. 16 00:00:48,149 --> 00:00:48,789 Speaker 6: He kills it. 17 00:00:49,069 --> 00:00:51,949 Speaker 2: He had a new season high for Mitt Richmond. 18 00:00:52,789 --> 00:00:54,189 Speaker 4: Nolle runs out another rebound. 19 00:00:54,189 --> 00:00:56,069 Speaker 2: He's opened from the perimeter down it. 20 00:00:58,749 --> 00:01:01,989 Speaker 7: It's tip cold and standing intercepts a mask and the 21 00:01:02,029 --> 00:01:06,589 Speaker 7: Warriors tip won game, the first Golden State playoff win 22 00:01:06,789 --> 00:01:11,749 Speaker 7: at the Forum since nineteen sixty nine. The series is 23 00:01:11,908 --> 00:01:13,548 Speaker 7: tied at one game apiece. 24 00:01:14,669 --> 00:01:17,029 Speaker 1: Those were some highlights from one of the more popular 25 00:01:17,068 --> 00:01:21,509 Speaker 1: Golden State Warrior teams that previously mentioned. Run TMC squad 26 00:01:21,869 --> 00:01:25,269 Speaker 1: led by Tim Hardway, Mitch Richmond, and Chris mok The 27 00:01:25,268 --> 00:01:28,148 Speaker 1: one that kickstarted my love for the NBA and a 28 00:01:28,188 --> 00:01:30,988 Speaker 1: team that was beloved just as much as any of 29 00:01:30,988 --> 00:01:35,469 Speaker 1: the championship Warriors. Since I'm Israel Gutierrez and this is 30 00:01:35,548 --> 00:01:47,509 Speaker 1: dubb Dynasty. Those run TMC Warriors reached the second round 31 00:01:47,549 --> 00:01:50,868 Speaker 1: of the playoffs in nineteen ninety one, beating David Robinson's 32 00:01:50,869 --> 00:01:53,629 Speaker 1: Spurs in the first round, then losing to the eventual 33 00:01:53,709 --> 00:01:57,588 Speaker 1: Western Conference champ, the LA Lakers. The team didn't get 34 00:01:57,669 --> 00:02:00,389 Speaker 1: much of a chance to build on that momentum because 35 00:02:00,389 --> 00:02:03,789 Speaker 1: the innovative head coach Don Nelson was also a bit 36 00:02:03,829 --> 00:02:07,349 Speaker 1: of a mad scientist. He saw a new age six 37 00:02:07,349 --> 00:02:10,349 Speaker 1: foot eight point forward named Billy Owens who'd been drafted 38 00:02:10,349 --> 00:02:13,469 Speaker 1: by the Sacramento Kings, and Nelson had to have them. 39 00:02:14,429 --> 00:02:17,549 Speaker 1: So he traded Mitch Richmond for Owens and tinkered with 40 00:02:17,549 --> 00:02:21,108 Speaker 1: the chemistry that already seemed ideal. But what we all 41 00:02:21,189 --> 00:02:23,829 Speaker 1: saw in those couple of run TMC years was a 42 00:02:23,829 --> 00:02:26,829 Speaker 1: glimpse into the future. Nelson got the most of his 43 00:02:26,909 --> 00:02:30,429 Speaker 1: small ball approach, it appeared, but maybe there was more. 44 00:02:31,508 --> 00:02:34,549 Speaker 1: Was run TMC really just a decade's early preview of 45 00:02:34,589 --> 00:02:37,309 Speaker 1: the famous death lineup? You'll hear about several more times 46 00:02:37,309 --> 00:02:42,229 Speaker 1: in this series. Chris Mullin himself certainly credits Nelson for 47 00:02:42,269 --> 00:02:42,788 Speaker 1: his vision. 48 00:02:43,228 --> 00:02:46,029 Speaker 8: Don Nelson was an innovator way ahead of his time. 49 00:02:46,069 --> 00:02:49,909 Speaker 8: As you said Israel, he had implemented that similar system 50 00:02:49,909 --> 00:02:52,909 Speaker 8: in Milwaukee. A great, great team in Milwaukee with Marcus 51 00:02:52,948 --> 00:02:57,949 Speaker 8: Johnson's City, Moncrief, Bob Lanier, Paul Pressey, Brian Winters. They 52 00:02:57,989 --> 00:03:01,108 Speaker 8: had a really, really good team. But Nelly was still 53 00:03:01,189 --> 00:03:03,828 Speaker 8: using bigs. He had Bob Lanier a Hall of Fame center. 54 00:03:04,549 --> 00:03:08,709 Speaker 8: When he came to Golden State, Nelly went almost exclusively small. 55 00:03:08,829 --> 00:03:12,149 Speaker 8: You know you referenced that San Antonio series, you know, 56 00:03:12,189 --> 00:03:15,109 Speaker 8: that's that particular series. In the first round was five games. 57 00:03:15,508 --> 00:03:17,749 Speaker 8: We lost the first game, we got blown out, and 58 00:03:17,829 --> 00:03:21,349 Speaker 8: Nelly came in the locker room and said, we got him. 59 00:03:21,668 --> 00:03:23,189 Speaker 2: So what Kyle Like, what do you mean we got him? 60 00:03:23,269 --> 00:03:24,108 Speaker 9: He just blew us out. 61 00:03:25,069 --> 00:03:29,189 Speaker 8: So they had David Robinson, Terry Cummings, Sean Elliott. They 62 00:03:29,228 --> 00:03:33,829 Speaker 8: were a big traditional NBA team. Larry Brown was the coach. Nellie. 63 00:03:34,108 --> 00:03:37,509 Speaker 8: The next game he started Mitch tim and I with 64 00:03:37,629 --> 00:03:39,709 Speaker 8: Rod Higgins and Mario Ellie. 65 00:03:40,669 --> 00:03:47,269 Speaker 4: That's right, Mario Eli making his first NBA start once 66 00:03:47,269 --> 00:03:49,909 Speaker 4: he got Don Nelson has backing up as a lot 67 00:03:49,909 --> 00:03:50,949 Speaker 4: of laa six. 68 00:03:50,749 --> 00:03:53,269 Speaker 7: Foot five John camp Powder out of America in the 69 00:03:53,349 --> 00:03:56,749 Speaker 7: National twenty seven year old rookie by way of the CBA. 70 00:03:57,149 --> 00:04:01,309 Speaker 8: That was his answer to go extremely small. We wound 71 00:04:01,429 --> 00:04:02,749 Speaker 8: up winning the next three games. 72 00:04:03,069 --> 00:04:06,749 Speaker 7: Gold and State Lawyers advance to the semi finals to 73 00:04:06,829 --> 00:04:11,629 Speaker 7: play the Los Angeles Lakers. This is their eighth con 74 00:04:11,789 --> 00:04:16,749 Speaker 7: second win counting regular season here at the Coliseum. They 75 00:04:16,829 --> 00:04:21,429 Speaker 7: lost the opener and then swiftly the next three. Larry 76 00:04:21,469 --> 00:04:28,149 Speaker 7: Brown and the Spurs could never solve the small, quick line. 77 00:04:27,988 --> 00:04:30,988 Speaker 2: Up and the big three of Golden State. 78 00:04:31,549 --> 00:04:34,269 Speaker 8: So yes, way ahead of his time. A lot of 79 00:04:34,269 --> 00:04:37,308 Speaker 8: teams are playing small now. You see four out, one, 80 00:04:37,389 --> 00:04:39,948 Speaker 8: eight or five out at times, trying to spread the 81 00:04:39,949 --> 00:04:42,789 Speaker 8: floor outside of three point line, penetrate the paint, off 82 00:04:42,829 --> 00:04:48,068 Speaker 8: the dribble, kickoff for threes. But Nellie, you know, Nelly 83 00:04:48,229 --> 00:04:55,909 Speaker 8: was old school teaching principles before he took plays. Spacing, pace, 84 00:04:56,509 --> 00:04:58,789 Speaker 8: attack off the dribble, don't overdrible. If you don't beat 85 00:04:58,829 --> 00:05:00,709 Speaker 8: you man at three dribbles, give it up. You know 86 00:05:00,748 --> 00:05:03,109 Speaker 8: he didn't like guys over dribbling. But if you straight 87 00:05:03,149 --> 00:05:06,669 Speaker 8: lines and beat your man, go make a play. But 88 00:05:06,909 --> 00:05:11,389 Speaker 8: always Nelly always liked balance of attack. He loved he didn't. 89 00:05:11,469 --> 00:05:13,188 Speaker 8: He liked a three point shot. We didn't shoot as 90 00:05:13,189 --> 00:05:15,549 Speaker 8: many back then. We shoot it, but we didn't. But 91 00:05:15,669 --> 00:05:20,909 Speaker 8: he loved. He would always preach shoot open shots as opposed. 92 00:05:21,029 --> 00:05:23,308 Speaker 8: You know now you see with the defense is taking 93 00:05:23,349 --> 00:05:26,349 Speaker 8: away his free point line in the layup, all that 94 00:05:26,428 --> 00:05:29,868 Speaker 8: real estate in between, which analytics says is a bad shot. 95 00:05:30,509 --> 00:05:31,828 Speaker 2: Nellie would call those layups. 96 00:05:34,709 --> 00:05:38,629 Speaker 1: The small ball philosophy wasn't Don Nelson's alone, He just 97 00:05:38,669 --> 00:05:41,669 Speaker 1: happened to be the most committed to it yet. In 98 00:05:41,748 --> 00:05:45,068 Speaker 1: the big picture. While Nelly's tiny teams were fun to 99 00:05:45,109 --> 00:05:50,549 Speaker 1: watch and occasionally surpassed expectations, the fatal flaws always remained true. 100 00:05:51,229 --> 00:05:55,229 Speaker 1: Small teams didn't defend well enough, and eventually, when defenses 101 00:05:55,269 --> 00:05:59,109 Speaker 1: reached playoff level, some of those jump shots either won't 102 00:05:59,109 --> 00:06:03,508 Speaker 1: be open or just won't fall. It's why by the 103 00:06:03,549 --> 00:06:07,509 Speaker 1: start of the twenty fourteen fifteen season, the Warriors had 104 00:06:07,509 --> 00:06:10,669 Speaker 1: made a handful of adjustments to what was widely viewed 105 00:06:10,669 --> 00:06:15,269 Speaker 1: as the classic dreaded jump shooting team. Part of what 106 00:06:15,469 --> 00:06:19,669 Speaker 1: unlocked Steph Curry's potential wasn't just two full strength ankles. 107 00:06:20,589 --> 00:06:23,188 Speaker 1: It was the Warriors moving on from a more stable 108 00:06:23,269 --> 00:06:29,709 Speaker 1: body but less sustainable game in monte Ellis, well, they. 109 00:06:29,748 --> 00:06:33,789 Speaker 4: Gave it right back to Ellis Elvans for the how 110 00:06:33,909 --> 00:06:36,229 Speaker 4: pretty is he in the open boy? 111 00:06:39,189 --> 00:06:42,389 Speaker 2: Check it out? Never booked at. 112 00:06:42,269 --> 00:06:46,629 Speaker 3: The bath mante Ellis. 113 00:06:45,109 --> 00:06:48,549 Speaker 10: Great breed anticipation by monte. 114 00:06:48,469 --> 00:06:53,229 Speaker 2: Ux cut about it. Ellis Aldrick just left it. We 115 00:06:53,389 --> 00:06:54,828 Speaker 2: can't leave Vonta Ellis. 116 00:06:56,069 --> 00:06:59,469 Speaker 4: Ellis doing what he does best. Yeah, what he does best. 117 00:06:59,189 --> 00:07:04,948 Speaker 5: Is score, though you cannot give him any space at all. 118 00:07:04,988 --> 00:07:07,229 Speaker 1: Ellis had been a nice piece of the We Believe 119 00:07:07,308 --> 00:07:09,869 Speaker 1: Warriors team that upset the Dallas Mavericks in the first 120 00:07:09,949 --> 00:07:12,109 Speaker 1: round of the playoffs in two thousand and seven. For 121 00:07:12,229 --> 00:07:14,909 Speaker 1: more about that team a little later, and by the 122 00:07:14,949 --> 00:07:18,429 Speaker 1: time Curry was drafted, Ellis had graduated to the team's 123 00:07:18,509 --> 00:07:23,509 Speaker 1: leading scorer and seemingly its centerpiece. But during Curry's rookie year, 124 00:07:23,909 --> 00:07:26,949 Speaker 1: the six foot three Ellis infamously told the Bay Area 125 00:07:26,989 --> 00:07:30,229 Speaker 1: media before the season ever started that he couldn't play 126 00:07:30,229 --> 00:07:34,589 Speaker 1: with Curry, not in the Kobe Bryant era anyway, saying, quote, 127 00:07:34,909 --> 00:07:37,469 Speaker 1: you can't put two small guys out there and try 128 00:07:37,509 --> 00:07:39,509 Speaker 1: to play the one in the two. When you've got 129 00:07:39,549 --> 00:07:42,989 Speaker 1: big two guards in the league, you just can't do it. Okay, yes, 130 00:07:43,029 --> 00:07:45,949 Speaker 1: we're gonna move up and down fast, but eventually the 131 00:07:45,989 --> 00:07:49,229 Speaker 1: game is gonna slow down. You can't do it. So 132 00:07:49,309 --> 00:07:51,949 Speaker 1: count Ellis is a disbeliever and small ball if you will. 133 00:07:52,509 --> 00:07:55,189 Speaker 1: But he was correct in a way. He didn't say 134 00:07:55,189 --> 00:07:57,829 Speaker 1: the front court had to be huge. He just said 135 00:07:57,909 --> 00:08:01,269 Speaker 1: two small guards couldn't survive in the NBA when the 136 00:08:01,309 --> 00:08:05,189 Speaker 1: game slows down, so happens. At the same season Ellis 137 00:08:05,189 --> 00:08:08,349 Speaker 1: got traded, the Warriors were playing a six foot five 138 00:08:08,469 --> 00:08:12,069 Speaker 1: rookie two guard off the bench named Klay Thompson, who 139 00:08:12,109 --> 00:08:14,709 Speaker 1: was about to prove to be the real reason Ellis 140 00:08:14,789 --> 00:08:18,829 Speaker 1: was expendable. It would be a prophetic statement from Ellis then, 141 00:08:19,389 --> 00:08:21,669 Speaker 1: because even after leading the Dubs and scoring for two 142 00:08:21,709 --> 00:08:25,349 Speaker 1: plus seasons, the Warriors would trade their most popular player. 143 00:08:26,029 --> 00:08:29,509 Speaker 1: This was during Steph Curry's most injury shortened season, a 144 00:08:29,549 --> 00:08:32,709 Speaker 1: time when Golden State was still uncertain just how that 145 00:08:32,789 --> 00:08:35,349 Speaker 1: right ankle of Curries would hold up after an off 146 00:08:35,389 --> 00:08:38,429 Speaker 1: season of repair and care. And it was for a 147 00:08:38,469 --> 00:08:41,589 Speaker 1: player who had never averaged as much as sixteen points 148 00:08:41,589 --> 00:08:44,269 Speaker 1: a game in a season, a player who only had 149 00:08:44,349 --> 00:08:47,149 Speaker 1: five playoff games of experience to his name, and who 150 00:08:47,189 --> 00:08:49,989 Speaker 1: wouldn't play the rest of that season and miss a 151 00:08:49,989 --> 00:08:52,949 Speaker 1: good portion of the following year because of injuries as well. 152 00:08:53,429 --> 00:08:57,989 Speaker 1: That sounds like a gamble, to say the least. It 153 00:08:58,069 --> 00:09:00,509 Speaker 1: was no surprise at all that the Warriors fans took 154 00:09:00,549 --> 00:09:05,149 Speaker 1: it terribly when Golden State, still supposedly writing the excitement 155 00:09:05,149 --> 00:09:09,189 Speaker 1: and potential of new ownership, traded Ellis to Milwaukee for 156 00:09:09,189 --> 00:09:13,989 Speaker 1: former number one overall pick Andrew Bogan. David Lee had 157 00:09:13,989 --> 00:09:19,429 Speaker 1: already experienced the organizational makeover and survived. This trade reaction 158 00:09:20,309 --> 00:09:21,309 Speaker 1: was quite the site. 159 00:09:21,389 --> 00:09:25,309 Speaker 3: Three years into my tenure there. It was all new executives, 160 00:09:25,389 --> 00:09:28,469 Speaker 3: all new coaching staff, all new front office, even like 161 00:09:28,509 --> 00:09:31,389 Speaker 3: the secretaries and the offices were different. The only people 162 00:09:31,629 --> 00:09:33,029 Speaker 3: left on the team where me and Steph were the 163 00:09:33,109 --> 00:09:35,469 Speaker 3: only two people that were held over. And so you know, 164 00:09:35,509 --> 00:09:37,229 Speaker 3: we could see that when they were bringing people in, 165 00:09:37,309 --> 00:09:39,629 Speaker 3: it mattered to them that the team that there were 166 00:09:39,709 --> 00:09:42,629 Speaker 3: chemistry guys that could build a culture, and that was 167 00:09:42,629 --> 00:09:46,629 Speaker 3: something that I think previously the ownership felt was lacking 168 00:09:46,669 --> 00:09:49,029 Speaker 3: a little bit. They had some talent along the way, 169 00:09:49,029 --> 00:09:50,149 Speaker 3: but not everybody yet along. 170 00:09:50,189 --> 00:09:52,829 Speaker 1: Real well, the fans of the team weren't getting along 171 00:09:52,869 --> 00:09:58,309 Speaker 1: with Warriors decision makers. I not to sound dramatic, but 172 00:09:58,349 --> 00:10:01,469 Speaker 1: according to Golden State fans, the Ellis trade was the 173 00:10:01,509 --> 00:10:04,389 Speaker 1: worst thing to happen to the franchise ever, and they 174 00:10:04,389 --> 00:10:05,189 Speaker 1: were loud about it. 175 00:10:06,149 --> 00:10:08,309 Speaker 3: I'll never forget going out at halftime they said, oh, 176 00:10:08,309 --> 00:10:10,229 Speaker 3: we're going to introduce, you know, the new ownership, Joe 177 00:10:10,269 --> 00:10:12,109 Speaker 3: Lakeup's going to give a speech. And him getting up 178 00:10:12,109 --> 00:10:14,069 Speaker 3: there and after making that trade, he was booed off 179 00:10:14,069 --> 00:10:16,189 Speaker 3: the court and I mean just sitting there and Boot 180 00:10:16,229 --> 00:10:17,869 Speaker 3: and Pa and the fans are yelling at them because 181 00:10:17,869 --> 00:10:20,349 Speaker 3: they were such monteo as fans. Rightfully, So and so 182 00:10:20,429 --> 00:10:22,669 Speaker 3: Boga came in and not only did he arrive to 183 00:10:23,109 --> 00:10:25,589 Speaker 3: the booze, but also didn't play his first year because 184 00:10:25,629 --> 00:10:26,829 Speaker 3: he was coming off of an injury. 185 00:10:27,229 --> 00:10:30,349 Speaker 1: What Lee didn't recall, That's how jarring the booze were 186 00:10:30,989 --> 00:10:35,709 Speaker 1: with the fans. Did this during Chris Mullen's jersey retirement ceremony. 187 00:10:36,109 --> 00:10:36,869 Speaker 4: I think we have one. 188 00:10:36,789 --> 00:10:39,629 Speaker 5: Other thing to do that Noway, he saved the rest 189 00:10:39,709 --> 00:10:40,189 Speaker 5: for last. 190 00:10:40,589 --> 00:10:42,829 Speaker 1: Let's bring up the owner of the Gold's dead Warriors. 191 00:10:43,189 --> 00:10:54,269 Speaker 1: Mister Joe Laiell, what. 192 00:10:59,229 --> 00:11:05,549 Speaker 10: Tonight? How we got that over with tonight is about 193 00:11:05,789 --> 00:11:19,309 Speaker 10: two things. Embracing history and respect the Warrior's ownership, the 194 00:11:19,349 --> 00:11:22,789 Speaker 10: current Warriners our owners I think it's very important to 195 00:11:22,869 --> 00:11:26,149 Speaker 10: embrace history. Something has been done in the past, perhaps 196 00:11:26,269 --> 00:11:32,589 Speaker 10: as well. And when you speak of Warrior's history, there's no. 197 00:11:32,469 --> 00:11:40,789 Speaker 1: One Chris Mullen himself would try to come to Lake 198 00:11:40,829 --> 00:11:41,429 Speaker 1: Ofb's rescue. 199 00:11:43,269 --> 00:11:43,669 Speaker 2: I got I. 200 00:11:43,669 --> 00:11:43,949 Speaker 3: Got it. 201 00:11:45,549 --> 00:11:47,229 Speaker 2: As the greatest fans in the NBA. 202 00:11:47,349 --> 00:11:51,989 Speaker 8: As everyone stated, sometimes change is inevitable and it's gonna 203 00:11:52,029 --> 00:11:52,589 Speaker 8: work out. 204 00:11:52,509 --> 00:12:00,109 Speaker 2: Just fine. 205 00:11:58,509 --> 00:12:03,189 Speaker 8: With your support and patience and use that passion and 206 00:12:03,229 --> 00:12:04,349 Speaker 8: the direction. 207 00:12:04,349 --> 00:12:05,669 Speaker 3: This thing is going in the right way. 208 00:12:06,309 --> 00:12:07,349 Speaker 8: I've got great con. 209 00:12:07,229 --> 00:12:12,429 Speaker 10: Since Joe Mark Jackson, everything will work out just fine, 210 00:12:12,709 --> 00:12:14,909 Speaker 10: just a little bit of patience, use that. 211 00:12:14,909 --> 00:12:23,509 Speaker 1: Passion that's so cringe worthy you don't even need to 212 00:12:23,589 --> 00:12:26,549 Speaker 1: see it to feel it. It was such a sudden 213 00:12:26,589 --> 00:12:29,829 Speaker 1: turn from optimism in twenty ten when Lake bought the 214 00:12:29,869 --> 00:12:34,229 Speaker 1: team to this just two years later. But just as 215 00:12:34,269 --> 00:12:37,989 Speaker 1: shocking about that clip was how precient Chris Mullin was. 216 00:12:38,989 --> 00:12:41,749 Speaker 1: The Warriors not only turned it around, but they were 217 00:12:41,789 --> 00:12:44,869 Speaker 1: a mere three seasons away from a championship and the 218 00:12:44,909 --> 00:12:49,029 Speaker 1: start of one of the most incredible runs in NBA history. 219 00:12:49,069 --> 00:12:52,189 Speaker 1: It's among the greatest. I told you sos in sports. 220 00:12:53,949 --> 00:12:56,669 Speaker 1: Larry Riley, the same riot who pulled the trigger on 221 00:12:56,789 --> 00:13:00,349 Speaker 1: drafting Curry, would get full throated blamed for moving on 222 00:13:00,389 --> 00:13:02,709 Speaker 1: from the twenty six year old Ellis so hastily. 223 00:13:03,549 --> 00:13:07,749 Speaker 11: We had just made the drunk and mister Joe lakem 224 00:13:07,829 --> 00:13:11,749 Speaker 11: walked out to the court and boy here it just 225 00:13:11,989 --> 00:13:15,749 Speaker 11: rained with booze and the media went not so they 226 00:13:15,789 --> 00:13:18,909 Speaker 11: were on my case. Larry Riley doesn't know what he's doing, 227 00:13:19,509 --> 00:13:23,149 Speaker 11: And there were all kinds of times like that. The 228 00:13:23,349 --> 00:13:26,549 Speaker 11: reason that I thought we could do it was I 229 00:13:26,589 --> 00:13:30,589 Speaker 11: still saw Clay as a player who wished about me, 230 00:13:31,149 --> 00:13:35,829 Speaker 11: and I thought losing Mintey opened the door for Clay Thompson. 231 00:13:37,149 --> 00:13:40,469 Speaker 1: There was that name, again, fitting that Clay Thompson was 232 00:13:40,589 --> 00:13:44,429 Speaker 1: rather unassuming in his college days, despite having a father, Michael, 233 00:13:44,469 --> 00:13:47,069 Speaker 1: who played in the NBA. Because it's how Clay would 234 00:13:47,109 --> 00:13:50,909 Speaker 1: somehow remain despite being a major player in a sports 235 00:13:50,909 --> 00:13:54,229 Speaker 1: soap opera. Clay would prove to be the perfect fit 236 00:13:54,269 --> 00:13:58,389 Speaker 1: alongside Kurt the anti Monte if you will, in large 237 00:13:58,389 --> 00:14:01,709 Speaker 1: part because he didn't snatch up all the attention, because 238 00:14:01,709 --> 00:14:05,429 Speaker 1: he didn't need to dribble much at all. Because if 239 00:14:05,509 --> 00:14:09,309 Speaker 1: Curry's jump shot was textbook, Clay's was biblical. 240 00:14:09,549 --> 00:14:13,229 Speaker 11: The quick release, of course is important, but then the 241 00:14:13,389 --> 00:14:18,389 Speaker 11: form and the rotation on the ball was always consistent, 242 00:14:19,269 --> 00:14:22,669 Speaker 11: and I always felt like at the point of release, 243 00:14:22,869 --> 00:14:26,229 Speaker 11: everything was right where it should be. There are some 244 00:14:26,349 --> 00:14:29,829 Speaker 11: players who have got their elbow out a little bit 245 00:14:30,389 --> 00:14:32,629 Speaker 11: when they start out, but when they get to the 246 00:14:32,669 --> 00:14:36,269 Speaker 11: point of the release, if it's consistently where it should be, 247 00:14:36,829 --> 00:14:39,869 Speaker 11: that's not even a problem. He had that point of 248 00:14:39,909 --> 00:14:42,789 Speaker 11: release where it was quick and everything was where it 249 00:14:42,909 --> 00:14:46,949 Speaker 11: should be. He wasn't making shots by luck, he was 250 00:14:47,029 --> 00:14:47,909 Speaker 11: certainly a shooter. 251 00:14:48,389 --> 00:14:52,109 Speaker 1: With the eleventh pick in the twenty eleven NBA Draft, 252 00:14:52,869 --> 00:14:53,989 Speaker 1: the Golden State. 253 00:14:53,749 --> 00:14:58,149 Speaker 7: Warriors select Clay Thompson from Washington State University. 254 00:14:58,989 --> 00:15:01,549 Speaker 12: I'm I'm extremely excited about it because I've seen Steph 255 00:15:01,549 --> 00:15:03,309 Speaker 12: play a lot, and that kid can pass the ball, 256 00:15:03,909 --> 00:15:06,509 Speaker 12: and you know, with us in the backcourd on me 257 00:15:06,589 --> 00:15:08,069 Speaker 12: on the wing, I just think we'll be able to 258 00:15:08,069 --> 00:15:10,589 Speaker 12: space to floor so well together because you can both 259 00:15:10,589 --> 00:15:13,229 Speaker 12: shoot that ball. So I'm excited. You have there and 260 00:15:13,269 --> 00:15:14,869 Speaker 12: play with a point guard like him, because I know 261 00:15:14,909 --> 00:15:16,189 Speaker 12: he really has a good knowledge. 262 00:15:15,909 --> 00:15:16,349 Speaker 3: Of the game. 263 00:15:17,909 --> 00:15:21,469 Speaker 1: Despite that praise, there was nothing obvious about Thompson that 264 00:15:21,549 --> 00:15:24,109 Speaker 1: made him the Warriors pick at number eleven that summer. 265 00:15:24,589 --> 00:15:27,309 Speaker 1: On the board was a potential star in Kawhi Leonard, 266 00:15:27,509 --> 00:15:30,829 Speaker 1: who was drafted four picks later. Drafted just ahead of 267 00:15:30,869 --> 00:15:34,709 Speaker 1: clay By the nearby Sacramento Kings was Jimmer fer Deck, 268 00:15:35,349 --> 00:15:39,509 Speaker 1: a player with splash ability but certainly not the size 269 00:15:39,669 --> 00:15:43,429 Speaker 1: or the complete game as Thompson, and had the Warriors 270 00:15:43,429 --> 00:15:45,989 Speaker 1: gone with their other choice at the time, you would 271 00:15:45,989 --> 00:15:49,069 Speaker 1: have seen Mark Keith Morris, one half of the Morris Twins, 272 00:15:49,389 --> 00:15:52,669 Speaker 1: in a Warrior's uniform, trying to be the perfect compliment 273 00:15:52,709 --> 00:15:56,189 Speaker 1: to Steph Kurt Minor. Note that seems a bit more 274 00:15:56,229 --> 00:15:59,149 Speaker 1: significant now. Jimmy Butler was also on the board for 275 00:15:59,189 --> 00:16:02,589 Speaker 1: the Warriors in that draft, but he went number thirty overall, 276 00:16:02,669 --> 00:16:05,509 Speaker 1: the last pick in the first round, to the Chicago Bulls. 277 00:16:06,709 --> 00:16:09,349 Speaker 1: When we come back the story behind how the Splash 278 00:16:09,389 --> 00:16:21,269 Speaker 1: Brothers got their name and changed the games that twenty 279 00:16:21,309 --> 00:16:25,149 Speaker 1: eleven twelve NBA season, Thompson's rookie season and the year 280 00:16:25,269 --> 00:16:28,189 Speaker 1: step suffered his worst ankle injuries, and the year the 281 00:16:28,189 --> 00:16:31,909 Speaker 1: Warriors traded Ellis also happened to be a lockout shortened season. 282 00:16:32,549 --> 00:16:35,549 Speaker 1: It was a compact season where about the only thing 283 00:16:35,589 --> 00:16:38,829 Speaker 1: that went right for Golden State was Klay Thompson finishing 284 00:16:38,869 --> 00:16:41,629 Speaker 1: sixth in the Rookie of the Year vote. Even Bogan, 285 00:16:41,949 --> 00:16:44,749 Speaker 1: who had little success in Milwaukee to start his career, 286 00:16:45,349 --> 00:16:49,149 Speaker 1: didn't think of Golden State as any sort of favorable destination. 287 00:16:49,989 --> 00:16:51,909 Speaker 9: We only went there once a year with a Milwaukee box, 288 00:16:51,949 --> 00:16:53,869 Speaker 9: so I didn't get a real good experience there, but 289 00:16:54,629 --> 00:16:59,269 Speaker 9: knew that they weren't really good. I don't have much success, 290 00:16:59,349 --> 00:17:01,629 Speaker 9: kind of a turnstall of an organization. It's kind a 291 00:17:01,629 --> 00:17:05,709 Speaker 9: similar to Milwaukee in away where people got their players 292 00:17:05,749 --> 00:17:07,469 Speaker 9: got there, they didn't want to stay there long term. 293 00:17:07,789 --> 00:17:09,269 Speaker 9: They used it as a year or two to get 294 00:17:09,309 --> 00:17:12,749 Speaker 9: their numbers up and get paid somewhere else. So that's 295 00:17:12,829 --> 00:17:14,989 Speaker 9: kind of the feel that I got when I got there, 296 00:17:15,029 --> 00:17:17,789 Speaker 9: And it was kind of you know, when we got there, 297 00:17:18,309 --> 00:17:20,989 Speaker 9: it was you know, there was a lot of fans 298 00:17:20,989 --> 00:17:23,629 Speaker 9: that were just happy to see basketball but didn't really 299 00:17:23,669 --> 00:17:27,789 Speaker 9: worry about winning. You know, it's still still sold out 300 00:17:28,029 --> 00:17:31,909 Speaker 9: most games, or was close to full at Oracle even 301 00:17:31,909 --> 00:17:35,149 Speaker 9: when they were you know, had twenty win seasons, which 302 00:17:35,189 --> 00:17:35,989 Speaker 9: was really impressive. 303 00:17:36,909 --> 00:17:40,189 Speaker 1: Basically, Boget wasn't sure if management knew what they were 304 00:17:40,229 --> 00:17:43,789 Speaker 1: doing either. It must have made for the occasional sleepless 305 00:17:43,909 --> 00:17:48,429 Speaker 1: night for the decision makers involved. The very next season, however, 306 00:17:49,029 --> 00:17:53,589 Speaker 1: more of this extended story started falling into place that 307 00:17:53,629 --> 00:17:57,908 Speaker 1: included a lovable nickname that, let's face it always adds 308 00:17:57,949 --> 00:18:00,989 Speaker 1: to the likability factor of a team right run TMC. 309 00:18:02,909 --> 00:18:05,989 Speaker 1: The Splash Brothers, as Steph Curry and Klay Thompson became 310 00:18:06,109 --> 00:18:09,189 Speaker 1: known seems like a moniker that's been around since the 311 00:18:09,269 --> 00:18:11,349 Speaker 1: day the first two stepped on the court. To get 312 00:18:11,389 --> 00:18:15,908 Speaker 1: it actually took a couple of seasons. 313 00:18:14,549 --> 00:18:17,589 Speaker 5: Les Splash Brothers getting rid of them play three. 314 00:18:18,469 --> 00:18:24,709 Speaker 1: That's the two were such obviously great shooters that their 315 00:18:24,749 --> 00:18:28,429 Speaker 1: first coach at at Tandem, Mark Jackson, would constantly make 316 00:18:28,469 --> 00:18:32,509 Speaker 1: boastful claims about them, including calling them the best backcourt 317 00:18:32,549 --> 00:18:33,829 Speaker 1: shooting pair of all time. 318 00:18:34,189 --> 00:18:36,309 Speaker 5: But we got guys that can knock down shots. When 319 00:18:36,349 --> 00:18:39,509 Speaker 5: you talk about you know, Klay Thompson and Steph Curry, 320 00:18:40,109 --> 00:18:42,549 Speaker 5: in my opinion, that the greatest shooting backcourt in the 321 00:18:42,589 --> 00:18:44,749 Speaker 5: history of the game, and I'm a guy that's just 322 00:18:44,789 --> 00:18:49,589 Speaker 5: not throwing that out there. I followed basketball my entire life, 323 00:18:50,149 --> 00:18:52,829 Speaker 5: not only played covered, but I was a fan as 324 00:18:52,869 --> 00:18:56,949 Speaker 5: a kid. I watched the great players, and these two 325 00:18:56,949 --> 00:18:59,189 Speaker 5: guys were absolutely off the charts. 326 00:19:00,109 --> 00:19:03,149 Speaker 1: The best shooting back court of all time doesn't quite 327 00:19:03,189 --> 00:19:06,589 Speaker 1: roll up off the tongue is easier. Thankfully, a game 328 00:19:06,629 --> 00:19:11,989 Speaker 1: in December twenty twelve helped condense it. The game was 329 00:19:12,029 --> 00:19:16,029 Speaker 1: against Charlotte then the Bobcats, where Stephan Clay combined for 330 00:19:16,109 --> 00:19:19,668 Speaker 1: twelve three pointers and forty seven points in a Golden 331 00:19:19,709 --> 00:19:20,349 Speaker 1: State win. 332 00:19:23,029 --> 00:19:25,749 Speaker 5: The second game in a row with Eagles, his career 333 00:19:25,869 --> 00:19:29,629 Speaker 5: pass with seven threes, he. 334 00:19:33,709 --> 00:19:40,469 Speaker 7: Does more threes in any game, and his tired career 335 00:19:40,589 --> 00:19:41,789 Speaker 7: marks in the NBA. 336 00:19:45,269 --> 00:19:48,669 Speaker 1: At halftime of that contest, a writer for the team website, 337 00:19:48,829 --> 00:19:53,029 Speaker 1: Brian Witt, updated Stephan Clay's performance with the hashtag and 338 00:19:53,389 --> 00:19:57,189 Speaker 1: splash Brothers. The team liked it and encouraged him to 339 00:19:57,229 --> 00:20:00,749 Speaker 1: continue using it, so it took off from there. David 340 00:20:00,789 --> 00:20:02,589 Speaker 1: Lee had a triple double in that game, by the way, 341 00:20:03,029 --> 00:20:05,949 Speaker 1: but I guess snow lovable nickname for him, the Splash 342 00:20:05,949 --> 00:20:10,349 Speaker 1: Brothers Moniker actually has Bay Area roots as another pair 343 00:20:10,389 --> 00:20:13,709 Speaker 1: of fake brothers because they Cansako and Mark McGuire once 344 00:20:13,789 --> 00:20:16,549 Speaker 1: dominated the sports scene as members of the Oakland Athletics. 345 00:20:17,629 --> 00:20:21,109 Speaker 1: Those four giant forearms combined to hit so many home 346 00:20:21,149 --> 00:20:23,629 Speaker 1: runs for the A's that they became known as the 347 00:20:23,669 --> 00:20:28,109 Speaker 1: Bash Brothers, sending baseballs into the atmosphere and celebrating by 348 00:20:28,189 --> 00:20:33,069 Speaker 1: high fiving forearms instead of hands. The Splash Brothers didn't 349 00:20:33,069 --> 00:20:37,069 Speaker 1: have a signature celebration. Steph would certainly establish himself as 350 00:20:37,069 --> 00:20:41,389 Speaker 1: the king of the signature sellys, but they did have 351 00:20:41,789 --> 00:20:46,229 Speaker 1: a signature. They would rain jump shots, but there was 352 00:20:46,269 --> 00:20:50,269 Speaker 1: a newfound defensive element to their approach. Mark Jackson wasn't 353 00:20:50,309 --> 00:20:53,629 Speaker 1: just good at instilling confidence in players. He understood that 354 00:20:53,749 --> 00:20:57,029 Speaker 1: defense was a necessary companion to win at a high level, 355 00:20:57,269 --> 00:21:00,229 Speaker 1: and he taught it well. The Warriors had crept up 356 00:21:00,229 --> 00:21:02,549 Speaker 1: from twenty seventh in the league in defensive raiding the 357 00:21:02,589 --> 00:21:06,509 Speaker 1: previous season three spots from the bottom to fourteenth in 358 00:21:06,549 --> 00:21:10,869 Speaker 1: the twenty twelve thirteen season. It was a significant jump, 359 00:21:11,109 --> 00:21:14,669 Speaker 1: and one that propelled the Warriors into the twenty thirteen playoffs, 360 00:21:15,109 --> 00:21:18,229 Speaker 1: their first postseason since two thousand and seven and just 361 00:21:18,269 --> 00:21:20,229 Speaker 1: their second in eighteen years. 362 00:21:20,909 --> 00:21:21,908 Speaker 2: Just listen to the crowd. 363 00:21:21,949 --> 00:21:23,989 Speaker 1: You guys are the best fans in the NBA. 364 00:21:24,149 --> 00:21:24,949 Speaker 2: You deserved this as. 365 00:21:24,949 --> 00:21:25,429 Speaker 3: Much as we do. 366 00:21:25,589 --> 00:21:26,789 Speaker 4: So Hooray to go. 367 00:21:28,469 --> 00:21:30,989 Speaker 1: The six seeded Warriors beat the number three seed Denver 368 00:21:31,069 --> 00:21:34,389 Speaker 1: Nuggets in six games, a lot like that run TMC 369 00:21:34,549 --> 00:21:37,109 Speaker 1: team that upset the San Antonio Spurs back in nineteen 370 00:21:37,189 --> 00:21:40,789 Speaker 1: ninety one. This scene the moment in time the Warriors 371 00:21:40,869 --> 00:21:43,429 Speaker 1: truly made it on the NBA fan radar. 372 00:21:45,389 --> 00:21:56,309 Speaker 4: Shot clocket six, Cream put a free stepping Couriers close 373 00:21:56,429 --> 00:21:56,829 Speaker 4: four to. 374 00:21:58,469 --> 00:21:58,629 Speaker 3: Give. 375 00:21:59,269 --> 00:22:01,789 Speaker 1: It wasn't just that the team had won a playoff series, 376 00:22:02,269 --> 00:22:05,469 Speaker 1: but they did it and rather vincent fashion, and because 377 00:22:05,469 --> 00:22:07,389 Speaker 1: of an injury to David Lee in the first game, 378 00:22:07,909 --> 00:22:12,149 Speaker 1: also went with a run tnc type mentality, going small 379 00:22:12,189 --> 00:22:15,629 Speaker 1: thanks to versatile talents like Harrison Barnes and Draymond Green. 380 00:22:15,989 --> 00:22:19,429 Speaker 4: Let's jap away by Thompson's good prop by loss of that's. 381 00:22:19,269 --> 00:22:20,149 Speaker 2: Yet god. 382 00:22:22,189 --> 00:22:24,309 Speaker 4: Going and steak go to the second round. 383 00:22:25,029 --> 00:22:26,669 Speaker 2: Let's succeed keep them free. 384 00:22:28,149 --> 00:22:28,269 Speaker 11: Well. 385 00:22:28,269 --> 00:22:30,789 Speaker 3: I remember, first of all, to start that season, I 386 00:22:30,869 --> 00:22:33,589 Speaker 3: remember reading on on ESPN they had an article, you know, 387 00:22:33,669 --> 00:22:36,549 Speaker 3: the kind of season preview, and they gave us a 388 00:22:36,749 --> 00:22:39,829 Speaker 3: zero percent chance of making the playoffs, not a five percent, 389 00:22:39,909 --> 00:22:42,549 Speaker 3: not a seven zero percent chance. And I remember we 390 00:22:42,629 --> 00:22:44,269 Speaker 3: put that up in our locker room and we said, 391 00:22:44,709 --> 00:22:47,469 Speaker 3: so they're giving us no chance, and we make the playoffs. 392 00:22:47,509 --> 00:22:49,509 Speaker 3: And we saw such an improvement that year, but we 393 00:22:49,589 --> 00:22:52,229 Speaker 3: were going to face a very tough, you know, Denver team. 394 00:22:52,309 --> 00:22:53,989 Speaker 3: I mean they were stacked. They had a lot of 395 00:22:54,029 --> 00:22:55,629 Speaker 3: good big guys, they had a lot of guards that 396 00:22:55,709 --> 00:22:57,908 Speaker 3: could really play, and they had home court against us. 397 00:22:57,949 --> 00:22:59,829 Speaker 3: So we were going in saying, let's put up as 398 00:22:59,829 --> 00:23:01,789 Speaker 3: good of a fight as we can try to steal 399 00:23:01,829 --> 00:23:04,509 Speaker 3: one of these on the road. I tear my hip 400 00:23:04,549 --> 00:23:06,389 Speaker 3: flexer in the first game, and it was one of 401 00:23:06,469 --> 00:23:08,909 Speaker 3: those things that coaches like, look, you know, we're really 402 00:23:08,949 --> 00:23:10,869 Speaker 3: going to struggle, but let's try to do something different. 403 00:23:10,949 --> 00:23:13,269 Speaker 3: Let's go small ball and we'll have and we'll have 404 00:23:13,389 --> 00:23:16,349 Speaker 3: Harrison and Draymond with a little bit of boget and 405 00:23:16,469 --> 00:23:18,549 Speaker 3: let's just see what happens because Denver wants to get 406 00:23:18,549 --> 00:23:20,428 Speaker 3: out and run. Anyways, and ended up being a perfect 407 00:23:20,509 --> 00:23:23,749 Speaker 3: matchup and they won I believe, Game two, and then 408 00:23:23,989 --> 00:23:26,188 Speaker 3: came back home and took care of business in that series. 409 00:23:33,869 --> 00:23:36,069 Speaker 3: And I think that series was not only a turning 410 00:23:36,109 --> 00:23:38,909 Speaker 3: point for the franchise to kind of announce it their back, 411 00:23:39,069 --> 00:23:41,549 Speaker 3: but also it really caught the eye of a lot 412 00:23:41,629 --> 00:23:44,549 Speaker 3: of people nationally where Golden State became one of those 413 00:23:44,589 --> 00:23:47,269 Speaker 3: teams because of Stephan Clay's shooting that people were like, 414 00:23:47,829 --> 00:23:50,349 Speaker 3: while we really like watching these guys and we can't 415 00:23:50,349 --> 00:23:52,069 Speaker 3: wait to watch more of them in the future. 416 00:23:52,509 --> 00:23:55,709 Speaker 1: And they happened to convince a certain all star forward 417 00:23:56,109 --> 00:23:58,349 Speaker 1: that he might want to join the Warriors and free agency. 418 00:23:59,309 --> 00:24:02,349 Speaker 1: Andre Iguidala was a crucial member of those George Carl 419 00:24:02,469 --> 00:24:06,949 Speaker 1: coach Nuggets, but after the surprising series was over, Carl 420 00:24:07,069 --> 00:24:10,909 Speaker 1: was accusing Iguadala of passing along team secrets to the Warriors. 421 00:24:11,669 --> 00:24:15,469 Speaker 1: It was acclaim Agwadala and the Warriors readily dismissed, but 422 00:24:15,549 --> 00:24:18,149 Speaker 1: Iguadala would make his way over to Golden State that 423 00:24:18,269 --> 00:24:22,229 Speaker 1: offseason as a free agent, a move largely influenced by 424 00:24:22,269 --> 00:24:25,549 Speaker 1: the crowds he experience in Oakland during that first round series. 425 00:24:26,349 --> 00:24:29,989 Speaker 1: He also noticed a team that was breaking league stereotypes. 426 00:24:30,949 --> 00:24:33,589 Speaker 1: Defense and toughness weren't supposed to be part of a 427 00:24:33,709 --> 00:24:36,069 Speaker 1: team led by a couple of elite shooters with a 428 00:24:36,149 --> 00:24:41,269 Speaker 1: cutesy nickname. Surely Iguadala was leaking intel if these Warriors 429 00:24:41,549 --> 00:24:45,669 Speaker 1: were bullying the bullies. Andrew Bogitt is certain that wasn't 430 00:24:45,709 --> 00:24:49,589 Speaker 1: the case, however, and that George Carl was reaching for answers. 431 00:24:50,029 --> 00:24:51,389 Speaker 9: Yeah, he was trying to say that. I think that 432 00:24:51,509 --> 00:24:54,549 Speaker 9: he was leaking stuff to it was a sneach or 433 00:24:54,549 --> 00:24:58,509 Speaker 9: a spy, like leaking the game intel or scouting to us. 434 00:24:59,069 --> 00:25:01,629 Speaker 9: I didn't hear that once, So I didn't hear Mark 435 00:25:01,709 --> 00:25:05,029 Speaker 9: Jackson mention any of that to us. So yeah, I 436 00:25:05,149 --> 00:25:08,629 Speaker 9: mean it would have if I'd assume if he tom 437 00:25:08,669 --> 00:25:11,189 Speaker 9: Mark Jackson or someone on our staff and things, we'd 438 00:25:11,229 --> 00:25:14,029 Speaker 9: have it in our scating report. We never had any 439 00:25:14,069 --> 00:25:15,429 Speaker 9: of that. We didn't really need it, to be honest 440 00:25:15,469 --> 00:25:17,029 Speaker 9: with you. They are pretty predictable with what they were 441 00:25:17,069 --> 00:25:19,909 Speaker 9: going to do over the course of the series, so 442 00:25:20,069 --> 00:25:22,869 Speaker 9: we felt like we had a pretty pretty good spot. 443 00:25:22,909 --> 00:25:25,149 Speaker 9: But that was It was an interesting series on a 444 00:25:25,229 --> 00:25:27,429 Speaker 9: number of fronts. You know, they were they were a 445 00:25:27,469 --> 00:25:32,109 Speaker 9: team that we struggled with years before I got there, 446 00:25:32,149 --> 00:25:34,229 Speaker 9: and a few other guys got there, and I think 447 00:25:34,389 --> 00:25:37,989 Speaker 9: bringing some physicality and some guys that weren't scared to 448 00:25:37,989 --> 00:25:40,389 Speaker 9: stand up to those you know, Kindeth th Reid and 449 00:25:40,469 --> 00:25:43,189 Speaker 9: those kind of guys, I think was really important. And 450 00:25:43,909 --> 00:25:45,549 Speaker 9: you know, we just we just outplayed him for the 451 00:25:45,589 --> 00:25:47,949 Speaker 9: most part in that series. And you know, I think 452 00:25:47,989 --> 00:25:51,148 Speaker 9: that was you know, coming our party for a lot 453 00:25:51,189 --> 00:25:53,469 Speaker 9: of guys, but just shown that we had a versatile 454 00:25:53,549 --> 00:25:56,629 Speaker 9: group that could I mean, given night, anyone could have 455 00:25:56,749 --> 00:25:58,069 Speaker 9: fifteen twenty points. 456 00:26:02,269 --> 00:26:17,869 Speaker 4: Probably tracing the town, resetting, hand off, curry off this 457 00:26:18,029 --> 00:26:23,229 Speaker 4: foot boga, little game of trust, shot cock a truck, 458 00:26:24,869 --> 00:26:27,749 Speaker 4: what get the us up in the four inside up 459 00:26:27,789 --> 00:26:28,749 Speaker 4: pick in the town. 460 00:26:29,309 --> 00:26:32,189 Speaker 9: And we could put physical you, we could outshoot you. 461 00:26:32,469 --> 00:26:33,709 Speaker 9: And I think it really started to. 462 00:26:35,589 --> 00:26:35,869 Speaker 11: For us. 463 00:26:36,229 --> 00:26:38,029 Speaker 9: It changed narrative of us. Like I think a lot 464 00:26:38,069 --> 00:26:41,429 Speaker 9: of people, you know, even even in the championship years 465 00:26:41,429 --> 00:26:43,269 Speaker 9: and whatnot, it was always like we're a running gun 466 00:26:43,349 --> 00:26:45,949 Speaker 9: team and we're just shooting a bunch of threes. People 467 00:26:45,989 --> 00:26:47,509 Speaker 9: didn't realize that we were doing a lot of grunt 468 00:26:47,549 --> 00:26:49,509 Speaker 9: work at the other end, and it kind of went unnoticed, 469 00:26:49,509 --> 00:26:51,429 Speaker 9: which was good because everyone just thought we were this 470 00:26:52,589 --> 00:26:55,309 Speaker 9: you know, d' antonio type and Phoenix Suns team that 471 00:26:55,589 --> 00:26:58,109 Speaker 9: that that soft and just wants to shoot threes. But 472 00:26:58,229 --> 00:27:00,869 Speaker 9: we weren't, and I think teams got a shop when 473 00:27:00,869 --> 00:27:02,589 Speaker 9: they came into players because they thought it would be 474 00:27:02,669 --> 00:27:05,309 Speaker 9: that easy pace with them. But defensively we will really 475 00:27:05,349 --> 00:27:05,949 Speaker 9: solid as well. 476 00:27:07,469 --> 00:27:10,789 Speaker 1: The Warriors would actually get even more solid defensively as 477 00:27:10,869 --> 00:27:14,269 Speaker 1: that Denver series progressed. That's because an injury to David 478 00:27:14,349 --> 00:27:16,549 Speaker 1: Lee in Game one kept him out of the final 479 00:27:16,629 --> 00:27:19,629 Speaker 1: game of that series and opened the door for more 480 00:27:19,749 --> 00:27:23,869 Speaker 1: Draymond Green minutes. Green was in his rookie season, still 481 00:27:23,949 --> 00:27:26,269 Speaker 1: trying to find exactly where he'd fit in next to 482 00:27:26,349 --> 00:27:29,309 Speaker 1: a former All Star like Lee and future greats like 483 00:27:29,389 --> 00:27:32,989 Speaker 1: Stephen Clay. He was irregular in the rotation, but his 484 00:27:33,109 --> 00:27:36,749 Speaker 1: minutes would vary greatly even late in his rookie season. 485 00:27:38,069 --> 00:27:42,749 Speaker 13: Shooting thirty six percent from downtown Draymond Green what moved 486 00:27:43,349 --> 00:27:50,509 Speaker 13: fading in the lane greene with an offensive rebound Thompson 487 00:27:52,509 --> 00:27:56,149 Speaker 13: Lade Thompson stay tune was took Lady hardaway. 488 00:27:56,629 --> 00:27:57,109 Speaker 4: Jack. 489 00:27:58,429 --> 00:27:59,789 Speaker 2: Chap him by Green. 490 00:28:00,709 --> 00:28:04,188 Speaker 1: Even after Green was drafted by now with Bob Myers 491 00:28:04,269 --> 00:28:08,469 Speaker 1: promoted to general manager making final draft decisions, the Warriors 492 00:28:08,509 --> 00:28:11,829 Speaker 1: weren't exactly sure how Draymond would translate to the NBA. 493 00:28:13,029 --> 00:28:15,429 Speaker 1: Riley was still assisting Myers. At the time, the team 494 00:28:15,509 --> 00:28:18,589 Speaker 1: was scouting Draymond and he noticed a winner's approach. 495 00:28:19,829 --> 00:28:21,229 Speaker 14: I'm on board of Raymond. 496 00:28:21,309 --> 00:28:25,669 Speaker 11: And here's why I go to watch I don't know 497 00:28:26,189 --> 00:28:29,589 Speaker 11: two or three times at least. I go to Ohio 498 00:28:29,669 --> 00:28:34,509 Speaker 11: State University late in the year, snow, I like predictions 499 00:28:34,549 --> 00:28:39,549 Speaker 11: that snow blowing sideways and it's an afternoon game, great crowd, 500 00:28:39,869 --> 00:28:44,029 Speaker 11: and Graymond just works and works and works. He rebounds, 501 00:28:44,349 --> 00:28:48,029 Speaker 11: he fights people. He's a winner. And I came out 502 00:28:48,109 --> 00:28:53,989 Speaker 11: of that gym shot the Stein Arena thinking, okay, if 503 00:28:54,029 --> 00:28:55,789 Speaker 11: there's a way to get to this guy. 504 00:28:56,189 --> 00:28:59,149 Speaker 14: Not maybe too high, but he is a winner. 505 00:28:59,709 --> 00:29:04,269 Speaker 11: And then there's all the criticisms about it, listens being 506 00:29:04,869 --> 00:29:09,669 Speaker 11: too small, too short, won't be able to rebound in 507 00:29:09,749 --> 00:29:14,029 Speaker 11: the NBA like he has the college doesn't make shots 508 00:29:15,229 --> 00:29:21,189 Speaker 11: and all those kind of things. Some of the shot making, Okay, 509 00:29:21,469 --> 00:29:25,989 Speaker 11: I gather it. But this guy's a winner. He plays hard, 510 00:29:26,069 --> 00:29:29,789 Speaker 11: he will defend, he will rebound. And I always felt rebounding. 511 00:29:30,149 --> 00:29:32,429 Speaker 11: If you can rebound in college and you are a 512 00:29:32,589 --> 00:29:36,669 Speaker 11: play it can't be a dud and just get some rebounds. 513 00:29:36,909 --> 00:29:38,909 Speaker 11: But if you can rebound in college and you are 514 00:29:38,949 --> 00:29:41,549 Speaker 11: a player that normally he's going to translate. 515 00:29:42,469 --> 00:29:46,509 Speaker 1: Green's game began to transform around his splashier brothers in 516 00:29:46,669 --> 00:29:50,389 Speaker 1: that Denver series. Once the second round series against the 517 00:29:50,469 --> 00:29:53,549 Speaker 1: Spurs started, Green was playing thirty eight minutes in a 518 00:29:53,629 --> 00:29:57,349 Speaker 1: double overtime game, still off the bench, effectively getting the 519 00:29:57,429 --> 00:30:00,669 Speaker 1: important minutes that token starter and fellow rookie festus A 520 00:30:00,789 --> 00:30:05,829 Speaker 1: Zili was not. Lee noticed Green's influence whether he was 521 00:30:05,949 --> 00:30:07,469 Speaker 1: on the floor with him or not. 522 00:30:08,189 --> 00:30:10,989 Speaker 3: He always had the attitude, always had the work ethic, 523 00:30:11,229 --> 00:30:14,789 Speaker 3: always had the grit, and the knowledge of the game. 524 00:30:14,909 --> 00:30:17,469 Speaker 3: Is a very smart player. But I'm not sure anybody 525 00:30:17,549 --> 00:30:20,029 Speaker 3: expected a second round pick to come in and ever 526 00:30:20,109 --> 00:30:23,909 Speaker 3: be a starter. And when given more opportunity, he played 527 00:30:23,949 --> 00:30:27,069 Speaker 3: even better. And I think it became very clear that 528 00:30:27,549 --> 00:30:31,669 Speaker 3: his relationship with Steph and his ability to find stuff 529 00:30:31,709 --> 00:30:35,149 Speaker 3: and put Steph in positions to be as productive as possible, 530 00:30:35,149 --> 00:30:38,509 Speaker 3: which with the player that Steff was becoming, that's what 531 00:30:38,629 --> 00:30:40,509 Speaker 3: we needed was a bunch of guys around that could 532 00:30:40,509 --> 00:30:42,949 Speaker 3: support Steph and make him better, and Draymond was the 533 00:30:42,989 --> 00:30:44,909 Speaker 3: perfect guy to do that. Set a lot of great 534 00:30:44,949 --> 00:30:48,229 Speaker 3: screens do all the dirty work. Steph defensively has gotten 535 00:30:48,269 --> 00:30:50,709 Speaker 3: better at the time wasn't great, and Draymond was kind 536 00:30:50,709 --> 00:30:53,109 Speaker 3: of that guy that was like, hey, when you get beat, 537 00:30:53,189 --> 00:30:55,069 Speaker 3: I'm there and then I'm back to my man. So 538 00:30:55,149 --> 00:30:57,829 Speaker 3: he did a lot of things that some people would notice, 539 00:30:58,029 --> 00:31:00,989 Speaker 3: and you know, the casual fan would notice some of it, 540 00:31:01,509 --> 00:31:04,229 Speaker 3: but when you really dove into the numbers, him with 541 00:31:04,429 --> 00:31:06,989 Speaker 3: Steph was a great combo. And I mean you've seen 542 00:31:07,069 --> 00:31:09,829 Speaker 3: that now many years since then it's proven to be 543 00:31:09,909 --> 00:31:10,229 Speaker 3: the truth. 544 00:31:11,469 --> 00:31:14,549 Speaker 1: The Warriors lost that series opener by two points after 545 00:31:14,669 --> 00:31:18,669 Speaker 1: two extra sessions. They eventually fell in six games to 546 00:31:18,789 --> 00:31:22,309 Speaker 1: a Spurs team that went onto the NBA Finals and 547 00:31:22,549 --> 00:31:25,309 Speaker 1: was a defensive rebound away in Game six of those 548 00:31:25,349 --> 00:31:28,189 Speaker 1: finals from winning it all. Who can forget that ray 549 00:31:28,229 --> 00:31:31,709 Speaker 1: Allen three pointer that changed the course of NBA history. 550 00:31:32,349 --> 00:31:37,029 Speaker 2: James Catchers clutch up with three. We'll go five sack 551 00:31:37,109 --> 00:31:42,189 Speaker 2: count Adam his three second. 552 00:31:44,829 --> 00:31:47,629 Speaker 1: Yet it was a series the Warriors felt they could 553 00:31:47,629 --> 00:31:51,109 Speaker 1: have won if that opening game had just ended differently. 554 00:31:54,829 --> 00:32:15,909 Speaker 2: Here's anoble but three time, I don't state dispersely. Is 555 00:32:15,989 --> 00:32:17,429 Speaker 2: it upset with general things? 556 00:32:17,469 --> 00:32:18,349 Speaker 4: Three point ten? 557 00:32:18,509 --> 00:32:19,069 Speaker 9: There is? 558 00:32:19,149 --> 00:32:21,469 Speaker 2: He's not upset on that three point a time of 559 00:32:21,549 --> 00:32:22,629 Speaker 2: Mark Jackson made. 560 00:32:22,429 --> 00:32:25,309 Speaker 8: Me upset with this defense because they did not communicate 561 00:32:25,349 --> 00:32:27,869 Speaker 8: and they left the man wide open. 562 00:32:29,589 --> 00:32:31,509 Speaker 1: Who knows what would have happened if the Warriors win 563 00:32:31,629 --> 00:32:35,189 Speaker 1: that game that series, maybe go on to meet Lebron 564 00:32:35,309 --> 00:32:39,629 Speaker 1: James in the NBA Finals a little earlier than scheduled. Still, 565 00:32:40,069 --> 00:32:43,629 Speaker 1: the Warriors were able to benefit by not advancing, perhaps 566 00:32:43,669 --> 00:32:46,909 Speaker 1: a theme that would continue in this story, because it 567 00:32:47,069 --> 00:32:51,589 Speaker 1: kept Iguidala extremely interested in Golden State while Andrea was 568 00:32:51,629 --> 00:32:54,709 Speaker 1: being pursued by the Nuggets, Kings, and Mavericks, all of 569 00:32:54,749 --> 00:32:57,829 Speaker 1: them effectively maxing out what they could pay him. The 570 00:32:57,909 --> 00:33:00,749 Speaker 1: Warriors were desperately trying to make room for the Do 571 00:33:00,869 --> 00:33:04,469 Speaker 1: Everything Forward. It wasn't until they could move on from 572 00:33:04,469 --> 00:33:08,029 Speaker 1: the contracts of Richard Jefferson and Andres Biadrin's Thank You 573 00:33:08,189 --> 00:33:11,869 Speaker 1: Utah Jazz, that the Warriors could finally offer Igwadala what 574 00:33:11,949 --> 00:33:14,749 Speaker 1: he needed to sign. It wasn't as much as those 575 00:33:14,789 --> 00:33:17,389 Speaker 1: other teams were offering, but it was enough to get 576 00:33:17,429 --> 00:33:22,069 Speaker 1: Iguadala into the fold. Yet the following season, despite healthy 577 00:33:22,149 --> 00:33:25,909 Speaker 1: seasons from Steph Clay and Draymond, despite the Iguadala edition, 578 00:33:26,549 --> 00:33:30,269 Speaker 1: despite another season under Mark Jacks and the additional bench 579 00:33:30,349 --> 00:33:34,069 Speaker 1: boost from Maury Spates. The Warriors still lost in the 580 00:33:34,149 --> 00:33:36,989 Speaker 1: first round in seven games to the Los Angeles Clippers. 581 00:33:37,869 --> 00:33:40,389 Speaker 1: It probably should be noted that this was quite the 582 00:33:40,469 --> 00:33:44,549 Speaker 1: moment in NBA history for another reason. While the teams 583 00:33:44,549 --> 00:33:47,909 Speaker 1: were playing games three and four in Oakland, TMZ had 584 00:33:47,949 --> 00:33:52,149 Speaker 1: released audio with Clippers owner Donald Sterling making racist remarks 585 00:33:52,189 --> 00:33:55,829 Speaker 1: in a phone call with his then girlfriend Vistiviano. By 586 00:33:55,869 --> 00:33:58,029 Speaker 1: the time the teams came back to Los Angeles for 587 00:33:58,109 --> 00:34:01,669 Speaker 1: Game five, there was a strong possibility that both teams 588 00:34:01,909 --> 00:34:04,349 Speaker 1: would walk off the floor and pro test and not 589 00:34:04,509 --> 00:34:07,749 Speaker 1: play the game. It was mere monthson to Commissioner Adam 590 00:34:07,829 --> 00:34:12,949 Speaker 1: Silver's tenure, and the players were demanding action. Eventually, Sterling 591 00:34:12,989 --> 00:34:15,989 Speaker 1: would have the team taken from him, but the drama 592 00:34:16,069 --> 00:34:20,309 Speaker 1: of that moment was unmistakable. Perhaps it helped push the 593 00:34:20,349 --> 00:34:24,189 Speaker 1: Clippers to a close victory in the series. Regardless, the 594 00:34:24,269 --> 00:34:27,829 Speaker 1: Warriors took their painful l in a very chaotic series 595 00:34:28,949 --> 00:34:29,709 Speaker 1: clippings up. 596 00:34:29,909 --> 00:34:33,909 Speaker 4: Being seven and then advance to the second line. The 597 00:34:34,069 --> 00:34:38,469 Speaker 4: turns of dry the defense of the coach Trump Rivers. 598 00:34:44,229 --> 00:34:45,308 Speaker 8: There was a sis drink. 599 00:34:47,149 --> 00:34:50,069 Speaker 1: They weren't fully healthy, as Andrew Bogett missed the series 600 00:34:50,109 --> 00:34:52,989 Speaker 1: with an injury, but there was still a lingering sense 601 00:34:53,069 --> 00:34:56,748 Speaker 1: of disappointment. Hurts even more because you tasted it before. 602 00:34:56,829 --> 00:34:58,788 Speaker 9: You taste a little bit of success and you want more. 603 00:34:59,549 --> 00:35:02,469 Speaker 11: So definitely stings a little more. 604 00:35:02,469 --> 00:35:05,549 Speaker 1: In last year, the Warriors were supposed to be growing, 605 00:35:05,989 --> 00:35:08,389 Speaker 1: not being surpassed by a team with Blake Griffin and 606 00:35:08,469 --> 00:35:13,869 Speaker 1: Chris Paul. Would a change be necessary Under normal NBA timelines, 607 00:35:14,269 --> 00:35:17,429 Speaker 1: Mark Jackson would have gotten another season at least more 608 00:35:17,549 --> 00:35:20,189 Speaker 1: time to prove the first round exit was the low 609 00:35:20,269 --> 00:35:23,788 Speaker 1: point and not a downward trend. But these Warriors front 610 00:35:23,829 --> 00:35:27,869 Speaker 1: office folks didn't consider themselves traditional thinkers, not when it 611 00:35:27,949 --> 00:35:31,189 Speaker 1: came to NBA decisions, and there was enough bubbling up 612 00:35:31,309 --> 00:35:34,549 Speaker 1: internally that confirmed some of the doubts the front office 613 00:35:34,629 --> 00:35:37,909 Speaker 1: had about Jackson. So just three days after losing that 614 00:35:38,029 --> 00:35:41,789 Speaker 1: Game seven, the Warriors fired Jackson, shocking a lot of 615 00:35:41,869 --> 00:35:46,589 Speaker 1: folks within and outside the organization. Bogitt was one of them, 616 00:35:47,509 --> 00:35:49,269 Speaker 1: but he also understood the thinking. 617 00:35:49,749 --> 00:35:53,348 Speaker 9: Look, I was shocked at they made that decision because 618 00:35:53,349 --> 00:35:55,828 Speaker 9: it was a tough decision. I think as far as 619 00:35:55,829 --> 00:35:58,509 Speaker 9: the organization goes, you know, we just the Warriors had 620 00:35:58,549 --> 00:35:59,949 Speaker 9: I mean, in the playoffs for so long, there's a 621 00:35:59,989 --> 00:36:02,349 Speaker 9: lot of media noise around. They finally made the playoffs, 622 00:36:02,749 --> 00:36:07,509 Speaker 9: you know, two years in a row. But I knew 623 00:36:07,589 --> 00:36:10,349 Speaker 9: that Mark Jackson had done a great job. But I 624 00:36:10,469 --> 00:36:12,788 Speaker 9: thought that he team taking that team as far as 625 00:36:12,869 --> 00:36:15,829 Speaker 9: it can go for a number of reasons. I know 626 00:36:15,869 --> 00:36:18,309 Speaker 9: there were Smith Cord issues that marquad with the organization, 627 00:36:20,269 --> 00:36:22,029 Speaker 9: and I know the locker room was kind of split 628 00:36:22,069 --> 00:36:23,828 Speaker 9: the all guys that loved him and guys that kind 629 00:36:23,869 --> 00:36:26,589 Speaker 9: of were left on the outer I was. I was 630 00:36:26,629 --> 00:36:28,109 Speaker 9: thrown in the middle of that, saying that I was 631 00:36:28,109 --> 00:36:29,629 Speaker 9: one of the guys. I was neither here or there. 632 00:36:29,669 --> 00:36:31,429 Speaker 9: I was kind of I was always my own guy, 633 00:36:32,429 --> 00:36:34,069 Speaker 9: and there was there were some things that went on 634 00:36:34,229 --> 00:36:36,748 Speaker 9: that I didn't agree with, but I supported as part 635 00:36:36,829 --> 00:36:40,429 Speaker 9: of being part of a team. So I think that, 636 00:36:40,909 --> 00:36:44,789 Speaker 9: you know, his started coaching kind of was a springboard 637 00:36:44,869 --> 00:36:46,828 Speaker 9: for Steph getting to where he was because it gave 638 00:36:46,909 --> 00:36:48,269 Speaker 9: him a lot of confidence. He put the ball in 639 00:36:48,309 --> 00:36:50,429 Speaker 9: Steph SAMs a lot. But he was kind of an 640 00:36:50,429 --> 00:36:53,909 Speaker 9: old school New York mentality coach, where you know, if 641 00:36:53,949 --> 00:36:55,949 Speaker 9: you made the last shot, you were getting the ball 642 00:36:55,989 --> 00:36:58,629 Speaker 9: the next play, and you will We're throwing it to 643 00:36:58,749 --> 00:37:00,788 Speaker 9: you until you missed, and then you missed your shot. 644 00:37:00,909 --> 00:37:02,629 Speaker 9: All right, let's go to a clean Now, now you 645 00:37:02,709 --> 00:37:04,109 Speaker 9: get three or four touch as, we'll see how you go. 646 00:37:04,189 --> 00:37:06,189 Speaker 9: And it's just not a fun way to play. It's 647 00:37:06,229 --> 00:37:08,629 Speaker 9: a you know, the team team wasn't very involved with 648 00:37:08,829 --> 00:37:12,509 Speaker 9: very isolation based. Our defense was pretty good under Mark Jackson, 649 00:37:12,549 --> 00:37:16,909 Speaker 9: I think. But I think that that you know, from 650 00:37:16,949 --> 00:37:19,389 Speaker 9: what we understood that there were rumblings between the front 651 00:37:19,429 --> 00:37:22,149 Speaker 9: office and the coaching staff about is this a championship roster. 652 00:37:22,669 --> 00:37:25,229 Speaker 9: I believe the front office staff kind of were inclined 653 00:37:25,229 --> 00:37:27,748 Speaker 9: to say this is building towards a championship roster. I 654 00:37:27,869 --> 00:37:30,589 Speaker 9: think there were people on the coaching staff that disagree 655 00:37:30,589 --> 00:37:32,229 Speaker 9: with that as well. So the visions were a bit 656 00:37:32,309 --> 00:37:35,349 Speaker 9: distorted from what I understand, and I think the change 657 00:37:36,109 --> 00:37:39,389 Speaker 9: was had to be made for the longeviany of the franchise. 658 00:37:39,949 --> 00:37:42,989 Speaker 1: Had to be made. It's not the type of vision 659 00:37:43,029 --> 00:37:46,189 Speaker 1: you expect from team leadership, but it was the type 660 00:37:46,229 --> 00:37:49,429 Speaker 1: of vision this ownership group would need to assure this 661 00:37:49,669 --> 00:37:53,029 Speaker 1: wasn't just another two year flash in the pan. But 662 00:37:53,109 --> 00:37:56,868 Speaker 1: who would match that energy, who was capable of picking 663 00:37:56,949 --> 00:38:00,309 Speaker 1: up where Jackson left off and moving the team forward 664 00:38:00,629 --> 00:38:05,149 Speaker 1: with no setbacks on the NBA. On team, Charles Barkley 665 00:38:05,189 --> 00:38:08,349 Speaker 1: echoed the sentiments of many traditional NBA thinkers. 666 00:38:08,749 --> 00:38:11,509 Speaker 6: Or you had mentioned this last night to Charles, you know, 667 00:38:11,869 --> 00:38:14,949 Speaker 6: and we had even while Golden State was still playing, 668 00:38:15,029 --> 00:38:18,309 Speaker 6: when he was saying, Hey, I'm coaching for my life 669 00:38:18,349 --> 00:38:19,788 Speaker 6: here and that kind of thing. 670 00:38:19,869 --> 00:38:22,069 Speaker 15: I have no idea why he was coaching for his life. 671 00:38:22,629 --> 00:38:22,789 Speaker 16: You know. 672 00:38:22,909 --> 00:38:25,189 Speaker 15: They made the playoffs the one time in seventeen years 673 00:38:25,229 --> 00:38:27,829 Speaker 15: before he got there, and he got him to the 674 00:38:27,909 --> 00:38:32,388 Speaker 15: playoffs back to back years. They were not the team 675 00:38:32,429 --> 00:38:34,229 Speaker 15: that was going to beat the Clippers. The Clippers had 676 00:38:34,229 --> 00:38:36,469 Speaker 15: a better team and they were Minos Bogan. 677 00:38:37,789 --> 00:38:37,989 Speaker 2: Heeck. 678 00:38:38,109 --> 00:38:40,868 Speaker 1: Phil Jackson probably couldn't be expected to make this team 679 00:38:41,189 --> 00:38:44,748 Speaker 1: a champion within a year. But there was an executive 680 00:38:44,789 --> 00:38:47,269 Speaker 1: in Phoenix who had also been a former player and 681 00:38:47,349 --> 00:38:50,589 Speaker 1: a TV analyst, and he was interested in the job. 682 00:38:51,069 --> 00:38:54,149 Speaker 1: Steve Kerr had worked with Rick Welts in Phoenix, and 683 00:38:54,309 --> 00:38:57,149 Speaker 1: Welts was now in the business side of the Warriors franchise. 684 00:38:58,429 --> 00:39:01,469 Speaker 1: Welts knew Kerr was the type of person Golden State wanted, 685 00:39:02,029 --> 00:39:05,549 Speaker 1: one who already understood the relationship the Warriors business side 686 00:39:05,629 --> 00:39:11,268 Speaker 1: and basketball side wanted to maintain. This was perhaps even 687 00:39:11,349 --> 00:39:13,869 Speaker 1: more so than the drafting of Steph Curry, which was 688 00:39:13,949 --> 00:39:18,069 Speaker 1: partially out of the Warrior's hands. The most important decision 689 00:39:18,229 --> 00:39:21,509 Speaker 1: this ownership group would make. Choosing the next leader of 690 00:39:21,589 --> 00:39:25,389 Speaker 1: this group would either unlock this collection of talent or 691 00:39:25,429 --> 00:39:27,589 Speaker 1: it would be the one that would eventually crush this 692 00:39:27,709 --> 00:39:31,989 Speaker 1: group's potential and have players with relatively short careers turning 693 00:39:32,069 --> 00:39:35,788 Speaker 1: elsewhere to find their success. That's how fragile these things are. 694 00:39:35,949 --> 00:39:41,509 Speaker 1: The NBA no pressure after the break. How does Steve 695 00:39:41,629 --> 00:39:46,069 Speaker 1: Kerr keep a fractured team together? And his controversial move 696 00:39:46,269 --> 00:39:47,669 Speaker 1: that was the key to the season. 697 00:39:59,549 --> 00:40:04,669 Speaker 16: You know, I wasn't in the meeting meeting where he 698 00:40:04,789 --> 00:40:07,989 Speaker 16: sat down and came in famously with his binder that 699 00:40:08,149 --> 00:40:11,189 Speaker 16: basically he had, you know, laid out everything that he 700 00:40:11,349 --> 00:40:12,868 Speaker 16: was going to do with the Warriors, and I think 701 00:40:12,949 --> 00:40:15,549 Speaker 16: blew Bob and blew Joe Lake ofm Away. 702 00:40:16,949 --> 00:40:20,069 Speaker 1: That's Rick Wilts Warriors team president at the time. 703 00:40:21,829 --> 00:40:23,709 Speaker 17: But I, like I said, I had the benefit of 704 00:40:23,749 --> 00:40:26,549 Speaker 17: being around it for a few years and observing how 705 00:40:26,669 --> 00:40:31,869 Speaker 17: he interacted with everybody, with players, coaches, people in the office, 706 00:40:32,069 --> 00:40:36,748 Speaker 17: and I knew that again, like as a human being, 707 00:40:36,869 --> 00:40:40,189 Speaker 17: we were getting a really special person who knew a 708 00:40:40,269 --> 00:40:43,748 Speaker 17: whole bunch about basketball, and you know, in terms of 709 00:40:44,269 --> 00:40:47,669 Speaker 17: a face of the franchise, in terms of you know, 710 00:40:47,869 --> 00:40:51,149 Speaker 17: how we knew the Warriors would be presented to the world, 711 00:40:51,269 --> 00:40:53,949 Speaker 17: and how important he would be to that. It was 712 00:40:54,029 --> 00:40:56,549 Speaker 17: everything you could have, you could hope for. He's a champion, 713 00:40:58,149 --> 00:41:02,589 Speaker 17: he had an amazing has an amazing personality. He's a 714 00:41:02,709 --> 00:41:07,509 Speaker 17: great community cater. He treats everybody incredibly well. I mean 715 00:41:08,309 --> 00:41:11,309 Speaker 17: I always remember him walking around the office in Phoenix, 716 00:41:11,469 --> 00:41:13,789 Speaker 17: like he would have a five minute conversation with the 717 00:41:13,869 --> 00:41:16,989 Speaker 17: receptionist before he would ever, you know, come in come 718 00:41:17,029 --> 00:41:20,309 Speaker 17: into the business offices. So like, he treats everybody with 719 00:41:20,469 --> 00:41:27,349 Speaker 17: such respect and honesty and like a genuine, uh desire 720 00:41:27,509 --> 00:41:31,149 Speaker 17: to form a relationship and have it be successful. And 721 00:41:31,229 --> 00:41:34,549 Speaker 17: I think all those things you know for a coach 722 00:41:34,789 --> 00:41:38,748 Speaker 17: are incredibly valuable x's and know's. It was a little 723 00:41:38,749 --> 00:41:41,469 Speaker 17: bit of a risk, right, but I think it. 724 00:41:41,509 --> 00:41:42,069 Speaker 3: Worked out for it. 725 00:41:42,869 --> 00:41:46,069 Speaker 1: Kerr was also being pursued by the actual Phil Jackson, 726 00:41:46,269 --> 00:41:48,109 Speaker 1: who was an executive with the New York Knicks at 727 00:41:48,149 --> 00:41:50,788 Speaker 1: the time. The Warriors were also considering to stand Van 728 00:41:50,869 --> 00:41:54,948 Speaker 1: Gundy a coaching free agent, but Kerr eventually turned down 729 00:41:55,069 --> 00:41:58,309 Speaker 1: Jackson and the Knicks and Joe Lacob and the Warriors 730 00:41:58,749 --> 00:41:59,948 Speaker 1: eventually chose Kerk. 731 00:42:00,309 --> 00:42:02,748 Speaker 18: We picked Steve Kerr when we interviewed him, he was 732 00:42:02,829 --> 00:42:06,469 Speaker 18: incredibly He's obviously very very smart. He had been around 733 00:42:06,669 --> 00:42:11,509 Speaker 18: incredibly great coaches, has five rings. We all felt confident 734 00:42:11,909 --> 00:42:14,229 Speaker 18: that he was the right guy to turn good into great, 735 00:42:14,309 --> 00:42:16,669 Speaker 18: even though he had not coached before. 736 00:42:17,269 --> 00:42:20,748 Speaker 14: I always loved the Warriors brand. I thought they were 737 00:42:20,909 --> 00:42:26,149 Speaker 14: similar to the Sonics in that, you know, basketball crazy 738 00:42:26,309 --> 00:42:33,309 Speaker 14: West Coast town with like, you know, really strong basketball history, 739 00:42:35,429 --> 00:42:38,829 Speaker 14: you know, both at the collegiate level, and you know 740 00:42:38,949 --> 00:42:41,709 Speaker 14: the talent that had come out of the Bay, you know, 741 00:42:41,869 --> 00:42:45,229 Speaker 14: going back to you know Bill Russell and Casey Jones, 742 00:42:45,309 --> 00:42:48,269 Speaker 14: and but then the you know, the the championship in 743 00:42:48,349 --> 00:42:51,989 Speaker 14: the seventies, much like the Sonics, you know, captivating a 744 00:42:52,029 --> 00:42:55,868 Speaker 14: whole region. Every time I came to to Golden State 745 00:42:56,149 --> 00:42:59,069 Speaker 14: as a player to play the Warriors, even though the 746 00:42:59,149 --> 00:43:01,869 Speaker 14: team was rarely good, there was always a buzz in 747 00:43:01,949 --> 00:43:05,349 Speaker 14: the building. It just felt felt really like this is 748 00:43:05,389 --> 00:43:10,149 Speaker 14: a special event, and so My perception of the Warriors 749 00:43:10,309 --> 00:43:13,069 Speaker 14: was probably similar to Joe lakeabs when he bought the team. 750 00:43:13,229 --> 00:43:19,069 Speaker 14: It's a sleeping giant, and so I was excited. My 751 00:43:19,189 --> 00:43:22,748 Speaker 14: daughter was a student at Cal at the time. When 752 00:43:22,789 --> 00:43:24,909 Speaker 14: they offered me the job, It's like, Wow, I get 753 00:43:24,949 --> 00:43:28,669 Speaker 14: to you know, you get to go coach Steph Curry 754 00:43:28,749 --> 00:43:32,069 Speaker 14: and go watch my daughter play volleyball at Cal. That's 755 00:43:32,149 --> 00:43:35,589 Speaker 14: not a bad thing. So it all was such a 756 00:43:35,669 --> 00:43:40,589 Speaker 14: perfect fit for me, being a California native and been 757 00:43:40,709 --> 00:43:44,789 Speaker 14: being so excited about coaching staff and coaching the Warriors. 758 00:43:44,869 --> 00:43:47,268 Speaker 14: It was an amazing opportunity. 759 00:43:49,589 --> 00:43:52,949 Speaker 1: An opportunity. He had a detailed plan for it, hence 760 00:43:53,029 --> 00:43:55,389 Speaker 1: the finder Wick Welts mentioned, Kerk brought with him to 761 00:43:55,429 --> 00:43:58,709 Speaker 1: the Internet and one curR knew he had to start 762 00:43:58,869 --> 00:44:02,309 Speaker 1: immediately that included a trip to the other side of 763 00:44:02,389 --> 00:44:06,669 Speaker 1: the world to visit was starting center Andrew Bok. There were, 764 00:44:07,109 --> 00:44:10,589 Speaker 1: as Bogan mentioned earlier, very big fans of Mark Jackson 765 00:44:10,709 --> 00:44:15,429 Speaker 1: still in Lockwood, so Kerr wasn't just introducing himself but 766 00:44:15,629 --> 00:44:18,669 Speaker 1: making sure he didn't isolate any players who might have 767 00:44:18,829 --> 00:44:19,829 Speaker 1: questioned the decision. 768 00:44:20,029 --> 00:44:21,629 Speaker 9: Yeah, when Steve got hired, I mean the first thing 769 00:44:21,709 --> 00:44:23,589 Speaker 9: he did he went and visited all the guys. He 770 00:44:23,629 --> 00:44:26,149 Speaker 9: actually threw out to Australia for literally forty eight hours 771 00:44:27,549 --> 00:44:29,908 Speaker 9: just to meet with myself face to face and say hello. 772 00:44:30,069 --> 00:44:32,309 Speaker 9: And he knew that it was a bit of frustration 773 00:44:32,509 --> 00:44:36,149 Speaker 9: with the way things went the previous two years, you know, 774 00:44:36,269 --> 00:44:39,828 Speaker 9: with the way we finished seasons off, and he kind 775 00:44:39,869 --> 00:44:43,789 Speaker 9: of wanted to reiterate his kind of commitment to myself 776 00:44:43,909 --> 00:44:46,669 Speaker 9: starting and being an integral part of the defensive unit 777 00:44:46,789 --> 00:44:48,629 Speaker 9: and role and all that kind of stuff. So that 778 00:44:48,749 --> 00:44:52,669 Speaker 9: was important. And then once once training camp started, it was, 779 00:44:53,789 --> 00:44:55,549 Speaker 9: you know, the biggest thing Steve did. He knew that 780 00:44:55,709 --> 00:44:59,069 Speaker 9: Mark Jackson was well liked by some guys in the 781 00:44:59,109 --> 00:45:01,869 Speaker 9: locker room, so he didn't want to come in and 782 00:45:01,949 --> 00:45:04,069 Speaker 9: say kind of throw the the baby out of the 783 00:45:04,109 --> 00:45:05,748 Speaker 9: bath water, like we did a lot of good things 784 00:45:05,829 --> 00:45:08,069 Speaker 9: under Mark Jackson, Like our defense was very good. We're 785 00:45:08,069 --> 00:45:09,589 Speaker 9: going to tweak some things here and there, but we 786 00:45:09,709 --> 00:45:11,908 Speaker 9: want to keep that same philosophies at the same court 787 00:45:11,949 --> 00:45:15,229 Speaker 9: offensively and then run Adams out of our assistant oversaw 788 00:45:15,309 --> 00:45:17,349 Speaker 9: that made and tweaks, but we kept a lot of 789 00:45:17,389 --> 00:45:21,629 Speaker 9: that the same Offensively was where he really wanted to 790 00:45:21,709 --> 00:45:24,909 Speaker 9: change things. And he really, you know, analytically, they got 791 00:45:24,949 --> 00:45:28,189 Speaker 9: some numbers and our passes per possession as a group, 792 00:45:28,229 --> 00:45:30,629 Speaker 9: we're really poor under Mark Jackson, which leads into what 793 00:45:30,709 --> 00:45:34,629 Speaker 9: I said. We were very isolation based, and our turnovers 794 00:45:34,749 --> 00:45:37,828 Speaker 9: were another big thing. We'd have periods where we all 795 00:45:37,909 --> 00:45:41,389 Speaker 9: get loose with the ball. And his biggest thing was 796 00:45:41,509 --> 00:45:43,789 Speaker 9: if we can limit turnovers and get him down to 797 00:45:43,869 --> 00:45:46,469 Speaker 9: a smaller number, just by three or four turnovers a game, 798 00:45:46,549 --> 00:45:50,549 Speaker 9: which is ten points at both ends, and we share 799 00:45:50,549 --> 00:45:51,949 Speaker 9: the ball a bit more. We would try to get 800 00:45:51,949 --> 00:45:53,909 Speaker 9: we always try to get at least fort to five possession, 801 00:45:53,989 --> 00:45:57,989 Speaker 9: but passes per possession. We've got a chance win the championship. 802 00:45:58,029 --> 00:46:00,109 Speaker 9: And you know, you hear all coaches come in, new 803 00:46:00,189 --> 00:46:02,549 Speaker 9: coaches and you get to every team and every team 804 00:46:02,589 --> 00:46:06,069 Speaker 9: says championship three. But did we really believe it at 805 00:46:06,109 --> 00:46:06,389 Speaker 9: that time? 806 00:46:06,469 --> 00:46:06,869 Speaker 14: I don't know. 807 00:46:07,789 --> 00:46:09,589 Speaker 9: I kind of believe was still a little bit away, 808 00:46:09,709 --> 00:46:11,189 Speaker 9: like maybe I have to prove ourselves, get into a 809 00:46:11,269 --> 00:46:13,908 Speaker 9: conference finals, take out bumps, some bruises, and then maybe 810 00:46:13,949 --> 00:46:14,348 Speaker 9: who knows. 811 00:46:14,789 --> 00:46:17,709 Speaker 1: This wasn't the typical spot for a new coach, much 812 00:46:17,789 --> 00:46:20,989 Speaker 1: less a first time coach. Normally a coach is being 813 00:46:21,069 --> 00:46:24,109 Speaker 1: replaced because the organization has struggled and needs a reset, 814 00:46:24,869 --> 00:46:28,469 Speaker 1: and with said reset comes room for air. This job 815 00:46:28,549 --> 00:46:34,109 Speaker 1: came with expectations immediately, maybe not championship expectations, but some 816 00:46:34,389 --> 00:46:36,788 Speaker 1: level of proof that the team was in fact better 817 00:46:37,069 --> 00:46:39,589 Speaker 1: than the group that advanced to the conference semifinals two 818 00:46:39,669 --> 00:46:43,229 Speaker 1: seasons earlier. The job also came with a high standard, 819 00:46:43,269 --> 00:46:47,549 Speaker 1: the Jackson set, which Kerve found to be the largest obstacle. 820 00:46:48,029 --> 00:46:53,789 Speaker 14: I think the biggest challenge was replacing a very popular coach. 821 00:46:53,909 --> 00:46:57,269 Speaker 14: You know, Mark Jackson had done a great job, really 822 00:46:57,389 --> 00:47:01,509 Speaker 14: had flipped the culture of the Warriors, turned them into 823 00:47:01,589 --> 00:47:05,189 Speaker 14: a defensive minded team for the first time, and who knows, 824 00:47:05,909 --> 00:47:09,109 Speaker 14: who knows how long, And I know Mark was very 825 00:47:09,149 --> 00:47:11,069 Speaker 14: popular with the players for a good reason. He had 826 00:47:11,109 --> 00:47:15,429 Speaker 14: done a great job and really empowered Steph and Clay 827 00:47:15,589 --> 00:47:19,828 Speaker 14: to become the stars that they became. And so when 828 00:47:19,869 --> 00:47:22,749 Speaker 14: I got the job, it was it was really unique circumstances. 829 00:47:22,829 --> 00:47:25,469 Speaker 14: You know, usually you don't get a job like this 830 00:47:26,869 --> 00:47:29,869 Speaker 14: where a team is on the rise and has this 831 00:47:30,109 --> 00:47:35,229 Speaker 14: kind of hope right away. And so I just felt 832 00:47:35,309 --> 00:47:37,109 Speaker 14: like the biggest thing was to earn the trust of 833 00:47:37,149 --> 00:47:41,349 Speaker 14: the players, to really respect the job that Mark and 834 00:47:41,429 --> 00:47:44,269 Speaker 14: his staff had done, and let the players know that, 835 00:47:44,669 --> 00:47:47,349 Speaker 14: you know, we were we were here to try to 836 00:47:47,389 --> 00:47:50,069 Speaker 14: help them take the next step, not not tear anything 837 00:47:50,149 --> 00:47:52,549 Speaker 14: down because they had already built something really strong. 838 00:47:53,069 --> 00:47:56,749 Speaker 1: How strong would be the question? Strong enough to convince 839 00:47:56,869 --> 00:47:59,109 Speaker 1: Andre Gudala he should come off the bench for the 840 00:47:59,149 --> 00:48:02,709 Speaker 1: first time in his career, a player who was still 841 00:48:02,749 --> 00:48:05,589 Speaker 1: in his prime and who just took a discounted rate 842 00:48:05,749 --> 00:48:10,349 Speaker 1: to play in Golden State. Apparently so, at least that 843 00:48:10,549 --> 00:48:13,229 Speaker 1: was it with Dolla's assessment, because he made the move 844 00:48:13,349 --> 00:48:17,229 Speaker 1: to the bench with no complaints. Kerr leaning on a 845 00:48:17,309 --> 00:48:20,309 Speaker 1: veteran to make a sacrifice, a vet who happened to 846 00:48:20,309 --> 00:48:24,069 Speaker 1: play at Karazama Mater Arizona was also a veteran like 847 00:48:24,229 --> 00:48:25,589 Speaker 1: move from the rookie coach. 848 00:48:26,269 --> 00:48:33,748 Speaker 14: Well, I mean, Andrea was the unsung hero of that 849 00:48:33,949 --> 00:48:37,549 Speaker 14: whole season. You know he's he was the guy who 850 00:48:37,589 --> 00:48:43,069 Speaker 14: gave up his starting job right away in the first game, 851 00:48:43,709 --> 00:48:46,268 Speaker 14: first game, first time in his entire career he'd ever 852 00:48:46,349 --> 00:48:49,109 Speaker 14: come off the bench eight hundred and something games played, 853 00:48:49,269 --> 00:48:52,069 Speaker 14: and that first night was the first time he had 854 00:48:52,109 --> 00:48:54,749 Speaker 14: ever done it. So I took a leap of faith 855 00:48:54,829 --> 00:48:57,109 Speaker 14: on his part to trust me when I came to 856 00:48:57,229 --> 00:49:02,509 Speaker 14: him with the idea. But I think also that he 857 00:49:02,709 --> 00:49:05,629 Speaker 14: was at a place in his career where he had 858 00:49:05,749 --> 00:49:07,989 Speaker 14: done everything else. He had been an All Star and 859 00:49:08,109 --> 00:49:11,269 Speaker 14: made max money, and he wanted to win in the 860 00:49:11,349 --> 00:49:13,989 Speaker 14: worst way, and so he was willing to trust me. 861 00:49:14,069 --> 00:49:17,069 Speaker 14: I think because of our connection to loud Olsen and 862 00:49:17,509 --> 00:49:20,189 Speaker 14: U of A, and you know, having both played in 863 00:49:20,309 --> 00:49:27,268 Speaker 14: that program, we shared a very similar basketball perspective and philosophy, 864 00:49:27,469 --> 00:49:31,949 Speaker 14: so he trusted me. It didn't take that long, but 865 00:49:32,029 --> 00:49:34,109 Speaker 14: it did take a couple of months, I would say, 866 00:49:34,189 --> 00:49:35,949 Speaker 14: for him to get comfortable in his role. 867 00:49:36,989 --> 00:49:40,229 Speaker 1: Iguadala's role would famously change at the very end of 868 00:49:40,309 --> 00:49:43,829 Speaker 1: curse first season because the Warriors had all the pieces 869 00:49:43,869 --> 00:49:47,149 Speaker 1: in place. They'd set themselves up with a roster they 870 00:49:47,189 --> 00:49:49,909 Speaker 1: were fond of and a coach they thought would get 871 00:49:49,949 --> 00:49:52,789 Speaker 1: the most out of everyone involved, but they'd have to 872 00:49:52,909 --> 00:49:57,189 Speaker 1: face months and months of doubt. Charles Barkley, the default 873 00:49:57,309 --> 00:50:00,069 Speaker 1: voice of the NBA, set the tone back in the 874 00:50:00,269 --> 00:50:04,909 Speaker 1: pre playoffs conference call, saying, quote, they had a terrific season, 875 00:50:05,429 --> 00:50:07,989 Speaker 1: but I don't like jump shooting teams. I don't think 876 00:50:08,029 --> 00:50:10,189 Speaker 1: you can make enough Jumpers to win four series in 877 00:50:10,229 --> 00:50:13,069 Speaker 1: a row. I've said that for twenty five years, not 878 00:50:13,309 --> 00:50:17,829 Speaker 1: just now. I think you physically manhandle them inside. Barkley's 879 00:50:17,829 --> 00:50:21,149 Speaker 1: theory would certainly be tested throughout Kerr's first playoff run, 880 00:50:21,869 --> 00:50:25,629 Speaker 1: and the Warriors would eventually have to face the ultimate Goliad. 881 00:50:26,829 --> 00:50:29,269 Speaker 1: If it was physicality that would bring down the Warriors, 882 00:50:29,749 --> 00:50:32,789 Speaker 1: the six foot eight face and frame of the NBA 883 00:50:33,189 --> 00:50:36,389 Speaker 1: Lebron James would certainly be the person to expose it 884 00:50:36,869 --> 00:50:38,189 Speaker 1: on the next dub dynasty. 885 00:50:39,789 --> 00:50:42,069 Speaker 3: I remember we saw him get it going in the 886 00:50:42,149 --> 00:50:46,109 Speaker 3: third as we'd come into the time out and he's like, Hey, 887 00:50:46,149 --> 00:50:48,989 Speaker 3: I want to run this play and stuff's losen. He goes, David, 888 00:50:49,149 --> 00:50:51,308 Speaker 3: We're not running any place. He's like, play, let's see 889 00:50:51,309 --> 00:50:52,549 Speaker 3: how far we can take this thing. 890 00:50:53,629 --> 00:50:55,749 Speaker 9: It was just still humming, and I think our defense 891 00:50:55,869 --> 00:50:58,989 Speaker 9: was elite. Our rotations were a lead up bench was elite, 892 00:50:59,069 --> 00:51:00,749 Speaker 9: like it will just feed in such perfectly. 893 00:51:01,269 --> 00:51:03,069 Speaker 15: There were a lot of people who doubted sort of 894 00:51:03,669 --> 00:51:05,428 Speaker 15: the way that they were approaching the game. 895 00:51:05,509 --> 00:51:10,109 Speaker 8: Beginnick, it was just this crescendo that started to build 896 00:51:10,669 --> 00:51:12,349 Speaker 8: and it just didn't stop. 897 00:51:13,509 --> 00:51:15,589 Speaker 14: You know, this team had been in the playoffs, the 898 00:51:15,629 --> 00:51:18,469 Speaker 14: previous two years, so they already had playoff experience, so 899 00:51:18,509 --> 00:51:21,469 Speaker 14: it wasn't like I was preaching something that they weren't 900 00:51:21,589 --> 00:51:24,069 Speaker 14: totally aware of, but there was a lot to get 901 00:51:24,149 --> 00:51:27,029 Speaker 14: through to understand how hard it was still it seems. 902 00:51:30,429 --> 00:51:33,429 Speaker 1: Dub Dynasty is a production of iHeartMedia and the NBA. 903 00:51:33,989 --> 00:51:38,709 Speaker 1: For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 904 00:51:38,949 --> 00:51:40,309 Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts.