1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:03,559 Speaker 1: This is a young team. We're on the cuff. 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 2: They're hungry to get better. 3 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 3: Pierce letting rise, spin to barrels his way down on 4 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:10,559 Speaker 3: the forty one yard line. Want to run by Piers. 5 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 4: These are the type of guys, the type of men 6 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 4: that we want in our locker room. 7 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 3: Send us up the question, Harris, Game day. 8 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 2: Is every day. 9 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 4: Love the energy stop by Stingley Portray. 10 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 3: Texans have the ball on the pit and if. 11 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 2: You want it, you gotta go work it now. 12 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: It's Texans all xys. 13 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 3: We are working tonight, Texans here on the Honday Texans 14 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 3: Radio Studio at NRG Stadium, Mark Vandermere with you with 15 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 3: John Harris and joining us as always on a Thursday night, 16 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 3: and by always I mean ninety nine point nine percent 17 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 3: of the time. John McClain, the General, and good evening, gentlemen. 18 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 3: Let's rock. We are alive. We've got a lot to 19 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 3: go over here tonight, including but not limited to comments 20 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 3: that Mark Berman made to d B City on the 21 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 3: Deep slamt Podcas Berman a guest on the Deep Slant 22 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 3: podcast with his retirement coming up, and talking about breaking 23 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 3: a certain story about a certain thirty second franchise in 24 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 3: the league. But we'll get it to that in a 25 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 3: few moments. Let's get it too OTAs. John. Welcome to 26 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 3: the show, John McClean, and of course you two, John Harris. 27 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 3: But John McClain, tell me your thoughts on OTAs. You've 28 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 3: had a few days to digest the information. What is 29 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,119 Speaker 3: your Give me a couple of your biggest takeaways from 30 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 3: what you saw. 31 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 2: Well, first of all, thank you guys for having me on. 32 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 2: Mark Berman's last day on KRIV channel twenty six is 33 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 2: June to twelfth, And Mark's been one of my best 34 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 2: friends for forty years. And I will say this, he 35 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 2: is the best reporter I've ever seen print or broadcast, 36 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 2: and he's the hardest worker. And Houston sports fans are 37 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 2: going to miss a lot without Mark Burmant reporting on 38 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 2: local sports, high school, college, and every pro sport in town. Anyway, 39 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 2: my takeaways from OTA's OTAs are about about learning mentally. 40 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 2: I've never seen one thing happen in OTA in forty 41 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 2: seven years of ad anything do with whether the player 42 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 2: played in regular season unless he got hurt, or how 43 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 2: he played. And when you got a new coach, new coordinators, 44 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 2: it's all about the mental you know, they don't do 45 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 2: much work. And but we're going to be watching CJ. Stroud. 46 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 2: You know Davis Mills is going to be the starter. 47 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 2: They're not just kind of gift raps strout the job 48 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 2: to Miko said's not the way they operate. And Stroud 49 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 2: he said, I don't want anything. He said, I've always 50 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 2: had to work. I don't want anything given to me. 51 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 2: I want to earn it. And Mills says, I've been 52 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 2: competing ever since I got here, and I'm happy to 53 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 2: continue to compete. But we know, we all know he's 54 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 2: going to start and these I'm opening. He starts that 55 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 2: first game at Baltimore. Let him have baptismal by fire, 56 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 2: and that way he and Anthony Richardson can square off 57 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 2: when they play the first home game against Andy, and 58 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 2: if they win, people will actually be happy they beat 59 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 2: the Colts this time. 60 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: Very true. 61 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,679 Speaker 4: General two parter one. Nothing to do with the Texans too, 62 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 4: I guess something to do with the Texans. 63 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 1: What would be the one. 64 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 4: Piece of advice you would give to Mark Berman in 65 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 4: his retirement? Second question, what's the biggest non quarterback storyline 66 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 4: as we go through OTA's on into training camp. 67 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 2: Well, first of all, John Berman said, I'm not going 68 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 2: to retire like you did, because you didn't retire, You 69 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 2: only retired from the chronicle. And I said, well, what 70 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 2: my plan was. My last day was on March thirty first, 71 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 2: and I was going to continue to do the radio 72 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 2: and work a little bit on the website. I didn't 73 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 2: know that the website was going to grow into three 74 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 2: columns and three podcasts. But I love talking on the radio, 75 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 2: love being on Texans Radio. And then mattress Mack called 76 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 2: me and offered me a job. Networked great for ten months. 77 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:00,839 Speaker 2: Was a lot of fun. And now I'm just back 78 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 2: to doing the website. And so Berman says, you know 79 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 2: he when he retires, he's going to retire, and I say, yeah, 80 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 2: you never know who's going to call you too. There 81 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 2: may be somebody call you and say, Mark, I'm interested 82 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:18,039 Speaker 2: in you doing this, and I'll pay you that. And 83 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 2: I know he wants to get away from that daily grind. 84 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 2: And as far as a position, I would say one 85 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 2: that has a humongous effect on the offense is center, 86 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 2: because you're going to have a rookie quarterback in CJ. 87 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 2: Stroud and I did a column with Juice Scrugs about 88 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 2: they had already started working before the rookie mini camp 89 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:45,359 Speaker 2: on their relationship because it's really important, as you guys know, 90 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 2: for a center and a quarterback to have a good 91 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 2: rapport off the field, in the locker room meetings, everything, 92 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 2: because they you know, they spend more time with each 93 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 2: other than they spend with their wives or girlfriends, and 94 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 2: that's going to be very important. Now it's good Quizinsberry's job, 95 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 2: and they drafted two centers who can play guard. But 96 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 2: you don't trade back into the second round for a 97 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 2: predominant center if you don't expect him to get that job. 98 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 2: And so I think it's going to be great watching 99 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 2: Quizon Barry and Scrugs and maybe Patterson a lot. I 100 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 2: think he'll be a guard. Those guys compete in the 101 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 2: off season program. We're in phase three. Then I can't 102 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:32,119 Speaker 2: wait for training camp to get here because that means 103 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 2: preseasons here, which means they're getting closer to the season. 104 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 2: But there's several but I really like want to keep 105 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 2: a close eye on center. 106 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 3: John McLean joining us all right, general the running back position. 107 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 3: Want to get into this a little bit because I'm 108 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 3: excited about it. I'm excited to have Singletary here and 109 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 3: Xavier Valida, the rookie from Arizona State. Your thoughts on 110 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 3: them and how they might divvy up carries. Is it 111 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 3: going to be game situation stuff? How much action does 112 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 3: Singletary really get? He was the leading rusher on a 113 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 3: thirteen to three Buffalo Bills team last year. 114 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 2: He started for the Bills for three and a half years. 115 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 2: They didn't make a lot of effort to keep him. 116 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 2: He signed a one year deal here. Very smart on 117 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 2: his part. He's a terrific receiver, and I would suspect 118 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 2: that Pierce because of his style. You know, as you 119 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 2: guys know, he is a physical runner. He runs into contact, 120 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 2: not away from it. And I think it's good that 121 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 2: he didn't get a lot of use at Florida because 122 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 2: that's kind of protected him. We saw last year what 123 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 2: happens when he went down for the last four games 124 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 2: and they were almost destituted and neck Cassario made a 125 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:45,359 Speaker 2: really good signing to get Singletary, who can run and catch, 126 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 2: and I watched the highlight film of him. He's very elusive. 127 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 2: I've watched him a lot because they're in a lot 128 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 2: of National TV games, but they had depth at running back. 129 00:06:54,680 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 2: So I'm guessing it'll be like sixty forty, sixty five, 130 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 2: thirty five early. But it's hard for any back to 131 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 2: stay healthy for seventeen games in an eighteen week season. 132 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 2: You know, you hope eventually it's going to be more 133 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 2: than that. You think about the guys with the Chiefs 134 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 2: and the Eagles. They had to do preseason, they had 135 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 2: to do a lot, but then they had seventeen games, 136 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 2: then they had to playoffs in the super Bowl, and 137 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 2: so you got to have two running backs and have 138 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 2: his Validay or somebody else. They've got to have a 139 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 2: third guy ready to be elevated in case one of 140 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 2: the other two gets hurt. And I think we'd be 141 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 2: stupid to think one of the first two are not 142 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 2: going to get that They're not gonna get hurt. One 143 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 2: or both are destined to miss some time general. 144 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 4: How much of a concern do you have, because of 145 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 4: course it gets brought up. I was talking to Mike 146 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 4: Dempsey down Jacksonville today about this, and he asked me, 147 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 4: what's your concern level if CJ. Stohn is not the 148 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 4: starter in Week one? Is there any concern there if 149 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 4: he's not the start in week one. Look, I know 150 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 4: he's a number two of our pick. I know he 151 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 4: should be the starter. But if he's not, do you 152 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 4: have any concern if that happens? 153 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 2: Kind of like Deshaun Watson wasn't. There's a lot of 154 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 2: like Patrick Malmes wasn't. There's a lot of quarterbacks who 155 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 2: didn't start the first game. Excuse me, and I have 156 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 2: no concern whatsoever. A lot of it would have to do. Now, 157 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 2: if he's missing passes, if he's overthrowing guys, I don't 158 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 2: think that's gonna happen. He was accurate. I mean he 159 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 2: was great throwing at the Combine, greatest pro date. He 160 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 2: was accurate in his two seasons started Ohio State and 161 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 2: everybody said, yeah, but he had great receivers. Did he 162 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:44,319 Speaker 2: have anything to do with those receivers being great? Could 163 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 2: anybody have thrown them the ball and they would all 164 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 2: called all those passes for all those yards and touchdowns. 165 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:55,839 Speaker 2: You know, Marvin Harrison Junior didn't do squat his first year. Now, 166 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 2: he's a great player. He may be the best player 167 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 2: in college football next season, but I'll guarantee you his 168 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 2: relationship is on field rapport that CJ. Stroud helped him 169 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 2: become a great receiver, and I think it's very unfair 170 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 2: to leave leave that out when people are looking for 171 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 2: reasons not to go with Stroud. But I've seen so 172 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 2: many people that I trust in the NFL, former GMS coaches, 173 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 2: players who all think Stroud is a perfect fit for 174 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 2: the Texans, for Demiko Ryans, but mainly for the offense. 175 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 2: Bobby Slowick is slowly just putting in that is you 176 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 2: know what they played with forty nine ers, what they 177 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 2: played here with Kobyak where he's going to be able 178 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 2: to roll a little bit right and left because with 179 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 2: he has motion. When he did that Ohio State, he 180 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 2: is almost unbeat up, unstoppable. So I can't wait to 181 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 2: see him if they hold him out the first game 182 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 2: like they did Watson. To me, it doesn't mean squat. 183 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 3: I don't have the rep count in front of me, 184 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 3: but it felt like Stroud, even though he didn't get 185 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 3: those first team reps for the most part, was getting 186 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 3: maybe more reps than Mills. It just felt that way. 187 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 3: Maybe I was wrong, and maybe I should count them 188 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 3: next time I observe practice. But general, one thing the 189 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 3: Texans are really good at. We're really good at last 190 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:18,199 Speaker 3: year they are elite in special teams and average drive 191 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 3: star for the opponent. The kickoff rule. I hate this, 192 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 3: not just for the Texans, but for the entire league, 193 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 3: where you can fair catch or kick off and take 194 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 3: it out to the twenty five yard line. Your thoughts 195 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:31,439 Speaker 3: on why they're doing this, And I got one more 196 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,199 Speaker 3: for you lopped on top of that, Why not get 197 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 3: rid of onside kicks if you're going to do this, 198 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 3: If you're going to do this in the name of safety, 199 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 3: why are you keeping the on side kick, which I'm 200 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 3: all right keeping, But why are you keeping that and 201 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:47,119 Speaker 3: getting rid of kickoff returns? Allowing this fair catch malarkey. 202 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 2: It's a lot of controversy over theirs. They do it 203 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 2: in the name of keeping players healthy. I heard Rich 204 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 2: McKay today doing an interview. He's the head of the 205 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 2: competition committee that recommended it. You know, it's a one 206 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 2: year meant a lot of people like the XFL rule 207 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 2: where you put the two teams right on top of 208 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 2: each other, they run five yards and they're closer to 209 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 2: making the tackle. It's hard to argue against safety. It 210 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 2: looks like they want to get rid of the kickoff. 211 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 2: Rich McKay said, no, it's not. We'll never get rid 212 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:23,319 Speaker 2: of the kickoff. It's too exciting. Well, it's not exciting anymore. 213 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 2: Number One kickers have gotten so much better at directional kicking, 214 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 2: at kicking the balls sideways, end over end, getting a 215 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 2: hang time. And the Texans have a great guy doing 216 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 2: at Kymie Fairbarn has done a tremendous job. Now, Frank 217 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 2: Ross had number one special teams in the NFL last year. 218 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 2: They'll adjust and they'll still be good. They got continuity 219 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 2: on the kicking. You know, you got the greatest snaper ever. 220 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 2: They've got a good kicker. They've got a punter who's 221 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 2: still the only free agent. Casario gave a three year 222 00:11:56,760 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 2: contract to and his contracts up after this season. Cam 223 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 2: Johnston's done a terrific job. But I think that's the 224 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 2: one thing people don't need to worry about. And I 225 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 2: think with Tank Dell returning punts, you know he is 226 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 2: going to be a tremendous returner if he don't get 227 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 2: it cremated creamed by somebody coming down the field when 228 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 2: he's five to eight and one sixty five. Let me 229 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 2: ask you guys a question. This is a column I 230 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 2: wrote to Dates on sports Radio six ' ten dot com. Okay, 231 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 2: I wrote about Davis Mills yesterday. I wrote about Strap, 232 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 2: but I don't think they signed Case Keenam to be 233 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 2: inactive on game days and to be the emergency quarterback. 234 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:39,079 Speaker 2: I don't think Case would have come back here even 235 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 2: though he lives here for that role now. Davis Mills 236 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 2: been the starter for the last two years. I don't 237 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:51,199 Speaker 2: think Mills was played that role. So I was not predicting, 238 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 2: but I think there's a good chance Mills could be 239 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 2: traded when a quarterback goes down. We know how Serio 240 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 2: likes to stockpile like fifth and sixth round draft choices. 241 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 2: I could see a team losing a quarterback, as they 242 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:08,199 Speaker 2: all will. It's inevitable, and they'll be scrambling that as 243 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 2: they get close to the season. Maybe the trade deadline, 244 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 2: the meals will be traded because I just don't see 245 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 2: those other two playing that role on game day. What 246 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 2: do y'all think? 247 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 3: All right, I'll take it first, Johnny. I think if 248 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,319 Speaker 3: you're going to bring up trade deadline as a possibility, 249 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 3: I think that changes the thinking. If you're going to 250 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 3: think about training camp, that's a different deal. Because to me, 251 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 3: just look around the league and look where Demiko just 252 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 3: was with the quarterback injury situation. I think a lot 253 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 3: of teams are going to want to keep three. The 254 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 3: new rule doesn't help you if you don't have three 255 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 3: on the fifty three. So I believe that they might 256 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 3: strongly consider and probably really want three quarterbacks on this 257 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 3: fifty three man roster. I know Case isn't exactly a 258 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 3: developmental guy, but at the same time, you have twenty 259 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 3: five starts in the last two years sunk into Davis 260 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 3: Mills and watching him grow and hoping that he gets better. 261 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:01,199 Speaker 3: I'm not saying you got to start him to manifest that, 262 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 3: but why not keep him around here for a bit 263 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 3: if everybody gets along well and you feel like he's 264 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 3: heading in the right direction, Because yeah, you drafted Stroud 265 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 3: number two, but there's no guarantee on health. Why not 266 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 3: have all that insurance. And I'm okay with all three guys, 267 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 3: And if Case doesn't like it, I don't know what 268 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 3: to say, but I believe they're gonna hang out to 269 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 3: all three. I don't know anything from Nick Asri on this, 270 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 3: but I believe they'll hang out to all three. 271 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 2: K which one do you think is going to be 272 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 2: inactive on game days and the emergency quarterback. 273 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 3: Based on what we're seeing so far, it's Case Keenum. 274 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 3: Based on what I think so far. 275 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, after one, after two, two OTAs, that's all I got. 276 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's all we have to go on. 277 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 4: I think the biggest thing is to let it play 278 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 4: out in training camp, to be honest, I mean it 279 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 4: could be a kind of a fluid situation for a while, 280 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 4: but preseason could tell you the whole the whole deal 281 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 4: because if if Davis goes out there and plays pretty 282 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 4: well in the preseason, but we all know CJ eventually 283 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 4: is going to take over. If Davis plays pretty well 284 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 4: in the preseason and that's the last time that teams 285 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 4: have seen him play, was I mean, he looked pretty 286 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 4: good in the preseason, I kind of like to look 287 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 4: at that. Yeah, maybe at the trade deadline you get something, 288 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 4: But look, the forty nine ers obviously Mark just mentioned that. 289 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 4: I mean, they know all about it, and you just 290 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 4: said it general. I don't think you can determine anything 291 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 4: really off a one ota. And sure, maybe Case didn't 292 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 4: think that he was gonna come here and be the 293 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 4: three but that might be the role that he's asked, 294 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 4: and I think they end up keeping three, and so 295 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 4: it might for a little while. It might Okay, maybe 296 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 4: Cases this week, maybe Davis is the three next week. 297 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 1: I mean, who knows. 298 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 4: But I think you'll let training camp, let this one 299 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 4: play out in training camp, because I really don't want 300 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 4: to give up on Davis until we see a little 301 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 4: bit more of what we've got. 302 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: He's only his third year. You kind of know what 303 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: Case is going to be. You kind of know what 304 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: Case is at this point, and you don't want to lose. 305 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 4: To me, the biggest thing with Case is leadership and 306 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 4: knowing this offense and helping a young actually both young quarterbacks, 307 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 4: helping two young quarterbacks navigate their way through the NFL. 308 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 4: So if Case gets the Josh McCown treatment, and you know, 309 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 4: like Josh McCown got it in what twenty twenty or 310 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 4: whatever that was, maybe that's where it ends up going. 311 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 4: But I still think Case can sling it. But I 312 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 4: don't want to give up on Davis Mills either. Look, 313 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 4: we know it's gonna be CJ. And if this is 314 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 4: the issue that we're having discussing the backup and the 315 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 4: number three quarterback. The Texans have come a long long 316 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 4: way than what they've been in the last couple of years. 317 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 2: Well, I think they will definitely have three quarterbacks. I 318 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 2: just think it's a good chance that Mills is going 319 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 2: to be traded for a pick. And doesn't mean they'd 320 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 2: be giving up on him, they just be the only 321 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 2: reason if Mills. If Stroud starts and he stinks it 322 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 2: up and he's got to go to the bench for 323 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 2: a little while like Mills did as a rookie, then 324 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 2: who do you play? And you know, it could be 325 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 2: based on the competition, it's gonna be. It's gonna be 326 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 2: fine and interesting to watch, that's for sure. And I 327 00:16:56,560 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 2: I feel bad for Mills because of what he's gone through. 328 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 2: Three head coaches, three coordinators, three quarterback coaches, three systems, 329 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 2: three play dollars, and that is almost criminal what they've 330 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 2: put him through. 331 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, Davis has been through it. 332 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 4: There's no question there were opportunities last year, you know, 333 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 4: where he could have really stepped up and grabbed that 334 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 4: position by the little ones and in the fourth quarter 335 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 4: of some key games early on, it just didn't happen, 336 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 4: and maybe that eroded his confidence a little bit, you know, 337 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 4: who's to say, But I still think there's something there 338 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 4: with Davis Mills. I think he ends up being a 339 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 4: really solid backup for a long time, and maybe he 340 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 4: gets another opportunity to be a starter, and who knows 341 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 4: what he does with it. I think Geno Smith has 342 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 4: shown everyone that if a guy is a talented thrower 343 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 4: of the football, that at some point it can come 344 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 4: together for you in the right situation. And maybe this 345 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 4: just isn't the right situation for Davis. Maybe he ends 346 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 4: up being the right situation. 347 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 3: Who knows. 348 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 1: I mean, Case Keenum went to Minnesota in twenty seventeen. 349 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 4: He wasn't supposed to start, and then he did, and 350 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 4: he ended up having a tremendous year. So if anybody 351 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:00,640 Speaker 4: knows Case Keenum knows. General the other news coming out 352 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 4: of the spring meetings, there's a lot of it. We 353 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:06,959 Speaker 4: talked about the quarterbacks, we talked about when they came 354 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 4: over the other week, talking about either way, the kickoff 355 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 4: Thursday night football flexed. I don't feel great about this whatsoever. 356 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 4: I understand twenty eight days, it gets a lot of time. General, 357 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:20,439 Speaker 4: I don't like this flexing of Thursday night football at all. 358 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 4: What were your thoughts when you saw outside of the 359 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 4: fact that it's a you know, Amazon money thing, what 360 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:29,679 Speaker 4: are your thoughts? Oh, wow, I don't know what just happened, 361 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 4: but general Thursday night, what do you think about the flexing? 362 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 2: That's my dryer going off? 363 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: Oh, that's what I thought. 364 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 2: Well, first of all, I feel really sorry for the 365 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 2: NFL owners because they need every penny they can get. 366 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 2: We all know they're going to the poorhouse. So I 367 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 2: think that if you're a fan and like the traveling Texans, 368 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 2: you guys, see those fans, how loyal they are. They're 369 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 2: so fired up this year. Which game do they go to? 370 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 2: Do they just go early? Do they go late? What 371 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 2: if there's a city they like to go to later? 372 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 2: And then they get those tickets. Now they pay for 373 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 2: their plane, they get their hotel rooms, and then the 374 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 2: Texas get flagged and oh, there's a convention going to 375 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 2: be that the hotel and you're gonna have to pay 376 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 2: a change fee. The NFL is certainly not going to 377 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 2: pay that change fee for you, and the flight's a 378 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 2: lot more expensive. Then it just doesn't serve the fans 379 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 2: in any way possible. But you know what, We're not stupid. 380 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:31,160 Speaker 2: It's all about money. They needed their getting billions, franchises 381 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 2: worth billions. I don't blame them wanting to make more money, 382 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,959 Speaker 2: but it is definitely not fair for the fans. 383 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 3: General Mark Berman in the Deep Slant podcast, he did 384 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 3: a big interview with Deep City. It's on Houston Texans 385 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 3: dot com and the Texans app. He mentioned that when 386 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 3: the story broke about the Texans getting or Bob McNair 387 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 3: getting the Texans getting awarded the franchise, something about he 388 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 3: had it, but you ran it in the chronicle and 389 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 3: nobody noticed that it went on k r IV. 390 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 2: The story that he told Deep is the story that 391 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 2: he added and and like maybe a month before, two 392 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 2: weeks before at some point, and I had it. Berman 393 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 2: and are best friends. We give each other grief all 394 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 2: the time. And I called him and I said, the 395 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 2: chronicles running boy me near one a tomorrow and nobody's 396 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 2: going to remember it. You already had it, and sure 397 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 2: enough we ran it. One of these people called him 398 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 2: and said, what are we going to do about this? 399 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 2: He said, we had it two weeks ago. Uh, I 400 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 2: think he I think I can't remember if he told me. 401 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 2: He told Deep a story. When I called him, I said, 402 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 2: what are you doing? He said, I'm driving. I said, 403 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 2: you better put both hands on the wheel. He said why. 404 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 2: I said, because I'm about to break the story that 405 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 2: Texans hron dom Capers as their first coach. And oh man, 406 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 2: his response was not something I could say on there. 407 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:56,120 Speaker 4: All right, general, this is a the landscape from when 408 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 4: you guys uh were covering the sport, whether it was 409 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 4: the oilers, the beginning of Texas, et cetera. The landscape 410 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 4: of media has changed a lot, and you guys, you 411 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 4: guys both changed with it, whether it was Twitter, whether 412 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,120 Speaker 4: it was you know, using video the way you guys 413 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 4: have what was kind of the biggest what's kind of 414 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 4: the biggest change for both you and and Berman That 415 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 4: really allowed you guys to stay completely relevant as the 416 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 4: media world changed completely from what you guys knew back 417 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 4: in the eighties and nineties. 418 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 2: You got to be an old dog that learned. They 419 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 2: can learn new tricks. If you don't, you're out And 420 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 2: we talk about this. I'll talk about this with media 421 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 2: all the time. They are older that back back when 422 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 2: you could go in the locker room before practice and 423 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 2: hang out in the locker room you could go after practice. 424 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 2: There was no time limit. If players didn't want to 425 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:52,880 Speaker 2: talk to you, they just wouldn't talk to you, they'd 426 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 2: leave or and you could get to know them. You 427 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 2: talk to them about their families. They're all the bothers, 428 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 2: their friends and you, and they trusted you, trusted you 429 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:04,640 Speaker 2: not to say, write or broadcast something you heard off 430 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 2: the record, and that was the case. And I regret 431 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 2: that I've not been able to meet more Texans that 432 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 2: get to know them like I knew the oilers, and 433 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 2: when I'm covering guys, I'm not friends with them. But 434 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 2: after the career is over, I'm friends with a lot 435 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 2: of oilers who I covered because I just got to 436 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 2: spend more time with them. And that's just a change. 437 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 2: And I think it started. The first coach that I 438 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 2: know they wouldn't let his assistant coaches talk was Bill 439 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 2: Parcels after they won their second Super Bowl. He just 440 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 2: decided one voice, and nobody really knew why. I remember 441 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 2: the Bell Belichick shut down practice in the playoffs. Media 442 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 2: couldn't watch practice, and everybody went nuts. Media been watching 443 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:53,360 Speaker 2: practice since the invention of football. And I asked Jack Pardee, 444 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 2: who was also in the playoffs. I said that coach 445 00:22:56,320 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 2: at Cleveland, Belichick, he's shutting the media out of practice. 446 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 2: So I said, why don't you do that? Because this 447 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 2: was the playoffs only time Belichick went to the playoffs 448 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 2: in his first six years as a coach. And Party said, well, 449 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 2: you know, I played fifteen years and I was the 450 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 2: head coach of the Redskins and the Bears, and I 451 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 2: have never seen a media person affect the outcome of 452 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 2: the game ever, And if I ever do, then I'll 453 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:22,360 Speaker 2: shut down practice. And I have told so many head 454 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 2: coaches through the decades about Party, and there's some didn't 455 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 2: know who he was, and others are like, what he 456 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 2: must have been crazy, But somehow they had dynasties and 457 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 2: they won. And you still got to watch practice, doctor 458 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 2: assistant coaches and get to know the players. And I 459 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 2: regret that. You know, you roll with the times, and 460 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 2: that's just the way it is. I'll never forget another story. 461 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 2: When the Packers won the Super Bowl with farm and 462 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 2: they just got good. I was covering the NFL between 463 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 2: the Others and IT and the Texans, and I was 464 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 2: in Green Bay at Ron Wolf, his office of the GM, 465 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 2: and he asked me if I want to go to 466 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 2: lunch and he said, you know, it's probably the last 467 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 2: time I'm gonna get to go to lunch with a writer. 468 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 2: Said why. He said, well, my PR guy says there's 469 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 2: something called email out there, and as soon as something happens, 470 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 2: it goes all over the country. And he said that'll 471 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 2: be too bad. And I said, yeah, that will be 472 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 2: too bad. One time, Marty Schottenheimer wouldn't let his coaches talk. 473 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 2: Now as president Pro Football Rights of America, and he 474 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 2: invited me to go to his room. It's the league 475 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 2: meetings at the Biltmore, And I said, Marty Wade Phillis 476 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 2: has been a head coach four times and he's your 477 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 2: defensive coordinator. You won't even talk to the media, So 478 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 2: why not, he said, because if they say something stupid, 479 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,159 Speaker 2: it can go all over the country immediately with email. 480 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 2: I said, why do you hire coaches that you worry 481 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 2: about saying stuff that's stupid? And he's like, uh, And 482 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,120 Speaker 2: I said, did the media help you get a head 483 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 2: coach and job when you were assistant coach? Yeah? Did 484 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 2: you talk to the media whenever you wanted? 485 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: Yeah? 486 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 2: So will you let your coaches talk? 487 00:24:58,400 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 4: No? 488 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 3: Great stuff? 489 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 2: Right? There. 490 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 3: I mean, I remember even here in the Kubiak era, 491 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 3: I'd grab assistant coaches in their office, bring them downstairs 492 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:12,679 Speaker 3: do ten minutes of radio. But you know that was me. Anyway, general, 493 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,199 Speaker 3: what do you have to promote? On Sports Radio six ten, 494 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 3: dot com and the Utopia Podcast. 495 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 2: Utopia Podcast with Sean bender Gas, We've got two up 496 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 2: in which we talk a lot about the Texans and 497 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 2: the OTAs, we talk a lot about the Astros. And 498 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 2: then I had a column. It was posted this morning 499 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 2: on Davis Mills, yesterday on CJ. Stroud, and my next 500 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 2: one will be on Monday when I'm gonna we're all 501 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 2: talking about the offense. I'm going to write about Matt 502 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 2: Burke and Tamiko Ryans's defense on Monday. 503 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 3: Very nice. Thank you very much for joining us, sir. 504 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 2: Guys, Thank you very much, and have a great weekend. 505 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 3: All right, coming up, you too, Coming up, it's Who's Better. 506 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 3: We've got opponents, we have position groups of the Texans, 507 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 3: we have far flung destinations for football games, and of 508 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 3: course something about the media. Let's get into it next. 509 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 3: Who's Better Here on Texans Radio Tixan's Radio continues. In 510 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 3: a moment, we returned to Texans all excess. Jere we 511 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 3: doing here in the Hunday Texans Radio studio, Mark VanderMeer, 512 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 3: John Harris with U Tanna play Who's better? Johnny? Let's roll? 513 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 1: There we go. 514 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 3: Who's better? Better position group for the Houston Texans in 515 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 3: twenty twenty three, the running backs or the defensive backs. Yes, 516 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 3: we're going brother against brother here within the family. Who's 517 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,160 Speaker 3: gonna be better? And I guess you have to grade 518 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 3: it on a curve relative to where you started or 519 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 3: whatever you tell me. 520 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: I mean, if it's truly, if it's truly who's better? 521 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 4: To me, it's a secondary Now, I said yesterday, I 522 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 4: do think that there is one of the one of 523 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 4: Darry Xavian, Mike Boone who mis Jared Doaks. One of 524 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 4: those guys I think is gonna urge as a really 525 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 4: solid number three weapon, and however you want to use him. 526 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 4: I think one of those guys is going to emerge. 527 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 4: But I just look at the secondary and I think, Okay, 528 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 4: they're extingly at one corner. I think is gonna end 529 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 4: up being what we thought he what we thought he 530 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,879 Speaker 4: was going to be. I think Jimmy Ward is going 531 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 4: to be a fantastic addition at safety, and of course 532 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 4: they have Jaylor Petrie kind of like running backs have 533 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,959 Speaker 4: Damian Pierce. I think the difference is a secondary has 534 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 4: Steven Nelson. And Steven Nelson last year I thought played 535 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:35,679 Speaker 4: very well and I don't think he got a lot 536 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 4: of credit for it because obviously the Texans were three 537 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:38,360 Speaker 4: thirteen and one. 538 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: But I thought he did really well last year. 539 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 4: And you know, I know, listening to Ron Hugey, you 540 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,479 Speaker 4: know he remembered him from Kansas City and covered him 541 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 4: in Kansas City. And I remember when the Texas signed 542 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 4: Steven Nelson, he was like, oh man, if they get 543 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 4: to Steven Nelson from Kansas City, this couldn't. 544 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 1: This may not be great. 545 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 4: But I don't think they got that player. I think 546 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 4: they got up developed, mature veteran who knows how to 547 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 4: play the corner position. He played it pretty well. Lovey system. 548 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 4: We'll see how it fits in into Dimiko and Matt 549 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 4: Burks system. But I think Stephen Nelson to me, is 550 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 4: kind of the difference, if you will, between them, that 551 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 4: he's established himself, but there's there's not a third running 552 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 4: back where. 553 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: You go, Okay, he's absolutely the guy. 554 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 4: The good thing is we're talking about these two groups, 555 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 4: and over the years we've been we've been kind of pushing, Hey, 556 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 4: we need the secondary to be better, we need the 557 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 4: running backs to be better. 558 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: Well, those two. 559 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 4: Position groups have improved immensely, immensely with bordering on elite 560 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 4: talent and free agents that have come in in Nelson's 561 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 4: case and hopefully have come in in Jimmy Ward's case 562 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 4: and turned that whole thing around in the back end. 563 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 4: So yeah, the secondary, you throw in Desmond King, Tavier Thomas, 564 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 4: I mean you can go, you can go a good 565 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 4: six to seven deep back there. And who's to say 566 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 4: whether I got that Kendall Sheffield can show a little 567 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 4: bit more in this system that maybe he did in 568 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 4: Lovey's system. I mean, that's a guy could fly. He's 569 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 4: got starts in the league too. So I think the secondary, 570 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 4: and maybe there's just because they're more bodies, there are 571 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 4: more guys you could talk about. I do think the 572 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 4: running backs are gonna be a really solid group Pearson 573 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 4: Singletary together, But the third guy's gotta emerge in a 574 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 4: seventeen game season, must emerge for this offense to get 575 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 4: to a different level. 576 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 3: All Right, who's better Johnny Texans opponent the New York 577 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 3: Jets or Texans preseason opponent the Miami Dolphins the way 578 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 3: they are now, Dolphins top five offense, last year, Jets 579 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 3: top five defense, but now they have Aaron Rodgers. Who's better? 580 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 3: I don't think it's a ridiculous question. The Dolphins should 581 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 3: be pretty good second year of the system with Mike 582 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 3: McDaniel running the show. 583 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 4: Oh no, I'm gonna say the Dolphins, okay, because because 584 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 4: I think the Yeah, I think Rogers and what he's 585 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 4: got offensively. Look, there's still questions about Breese Hall, whether 586 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 4: Breese comes back and when he comes back off that 587 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 4: torn a cl I mean, we'll see it, will more 588 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 4: than likely see him when we. 589 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: Face the Jets in December. 590 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 4: But early on, you know where Weinsbury's Hall, What's what's 591 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 4: he what's his status? 592 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: Of course, the receivers I think. 593 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 4: Improved and lobuhold Allen's ard walked out or went to 594 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 4: practice the other day and it was not anything bad. 595 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 4: He just got hit in an area that you know, 596 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 4: we don't like to get hitt in as guys. So 597 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 4: he's gonna be okay. I think the offense for the 598 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 4: Jets will be better. I think the big key for 599 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 4: both is the offensive line for both. But you add 600 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 4: Devon a Chain from out of A and M to 601 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 4: Miami's offense, I think Miami's offense is scarier, and I 602 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 4: think the Jets defense is really really good now. They 603 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 4: like I said the other night, they need to get 604 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 4: Quinn Williams back. That's a big deal for the Jets 605 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 4: figuratively and literally. They need him back. He's a game 606 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 4: changer in the middle. If they don't have him, I 607 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 4: think the Miami Dolphin, the Miami Dolphin defense might be 608 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 4: overall better because you got Jalen Phillips, who's emerging out 609 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 4: on the edge. You added Jalen Ramsey at corner to 610 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 4: go with Xavian Howard, and you've already got Javon Holland 611 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 4: at safety, who I think is already one of the 612 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 4: top ten safeties in the league, if not higher top seven, 613 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 4: top five. So you've got playmakers on the Miami side. 614 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 4: I can't believe I will say this. I'm happy that 615 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,479 Speaker 4: we're facing Aaron Rodgers and the Jets as opposed to Miami. 616 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 4: I think Miami a second year McDaniel, Mike McDaniel's offense 617 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 4: in his team. 618 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 1: I think the pieces they've added I think makes Miami 619 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: scary good. 620 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 4: So that could be a dark horse to get in 621 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 4: the top three in the AFC, the Miami Dolphins, because 622 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 4: you know, look, Buffalo they'll be there, Kansas City will 623 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 4: definitely be there if Burrow stays healthy. 624 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 1: Cincinnati will be in that mix. 625 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 4: But I think Miami adding Jalen Ramsey was big in 626 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 4: the secondary, and I think continued development of some of 627 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 4: their young players Christian Wilkins, Jalen Phillips, John Holland. I 628 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 4: think that's gonna make that a complete football team that's 629 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 4: tough to beat this year. 630 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 3: Well, they're doing the two jiu jitsu training and that 631 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 3: to help the Miami Dolphins as well. They'll be here 632 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 3: for the only home preseason game that the Texans have 633 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 3: in the twenty twenty three slate. All right, who's better, 634 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 3: Let's do this now. You don't have to go back 635 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 3: to where they were projected to finish when they were 636 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 3: coming out of college or to be in the NFL 637 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 3: when they were coming out of college. It's based on 638 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 3: where they are right now. Johnny Better quarterback to start 639 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 3: a franchise with at this moment, would it be and 640 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 3: these are recently highly drafted quarterbacks, would it be Justin 641 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 3: Herbert or Trevor Lawrence? Their numbers are remarkably similar except 642 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 3: for the yards, which is a big exception. But Herbert's 643 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 3: team doesn't run the ball as well as the Jaguars do. 644 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 3: With Eta, we talked about him last night a little bit, 645 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 3: I believe, but they have really similar numbers tds to picks, 646 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 3: yards per attempt, that kind of thing. Who would be 647 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 3: a better quarterback to start a franchise with? I know 648 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 3: Herbert at a bad second half of that playoff game, 649 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 3: but Lawrence had a bad first half of that playoff game. 650 00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 3: What do you think? 651 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, these two are really interesting to me. This is 652 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 4: a great question. Mark this really close because you you 653 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 4: know how much I think of Justin Herbert. I think 654 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 4: Herbert came into the league and just he tore it up. 655 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 4: I mean when he was at Oregon, it felt like 656 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 4: they had the reins on him the whole time, and 657 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 4: they finally, by the time he got the Senior Bowl 658 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 4: unleashed him. And you're like, what, this guy has throwing 659 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 4: acumen that we didn't think he had. And I even 660 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 4: thought he was gonna be good. I didn't think he 661 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 4: was gonna be this good. We all thought Trevor was 662 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 4: gonna be good. I'm gonna give the edge to Trevor 663 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 4: for one, one particular reason, and it's kind of an 664 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 4: intangible I think Trevor I don't want to use the 665 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 4: word cocky, but I get the feeling that Jacksonville believes 666 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 4: it can win every single game, not because solely of 667 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 4: the talent of Trevor Lawrence. I think they look at 668 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 4: him and think that guy will find a way to 669 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 4: just win this ballgame. 670 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 1: They believe in him, and he's got a confidence in arringance. 671 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 4: There was a little dust up at the end of 672 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 4: the Titans Jaguars game and Jeffrey Simmons and I think 673 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 4: it was Tier Tart. 674 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 1: Maybe they're kind of getting after the Jaguar. 675 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:12,839 Speaker 4: Line the game that was in Tennessee, and Lawrence got 676 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 4: in between both of them and they were yapping to Lawrence, 677 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 4: and you saw him point up at the scoreboard and 678 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 4: it was thirty six twenty two. He pointed up at 679 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 4: the scoreboard and both Titans you kind of just kind 680 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 4: of dropped their head and moved away. 681 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 1: It was as if to say, look, you're not gonna 682 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 1: mess with us. 683 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 4: He's that guy for them, and I think they they 684 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 4: believe that entire community believes. 685 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 1: That they're gonna win games solely because Trevor Lawrence is there. 686 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 4: I think the Chargers believe they can be good and 687 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 4: the offense can be good because Justin Herbert's there. I 688 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 4: don't know if they totally buy into the fact that, oh, yeah, 689 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,959 Speaker 4: he is. I mean, he's the leader, there's no question. 690 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 4: But do they believe in him the way that Jacksonville does. 691 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 4: I don't think so, and I think that would be 692 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,760 Speaker 4: the difference to me, because both of them every single 693 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,840 Speaker 4: piece of physical talent you could want in a quarterback 694 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 4: those two guys have. I just think Trevor's got a 695 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 4: little bit of, as they say, bleep in his system. 696 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,400 Speaker 1: He's got that. I don't know if Justin's got that 697 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,239 Speaker 1: quite yet. Maybe he gets it, Maybe it's there and 698 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 1: he just hasn't unearthed it yet. 699 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,719 Speaker 4: Maybe we just don't see it enough because we don't 700 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,359 Speaker 4: play the Chargers every year, although we have the last 701 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,800 Speaker 4: couple of years. I just think Trevor's that guy, and 702 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:21,840 Speaker 4: I think we're gonna be feeling the pain of that 703 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 4: for a long time. As I was reminded today by 704 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 4: Mike Dempsey and Jacksonville, I told him that Trevor could 705 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:31,239 Speaker 4: just take the year off, and you know he'd your 706 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 4: demand from him, Mark, and that's Trevor, just take the 707 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 4: year off so we don't see him twice. But Mike 708 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 4: said no, he wasn't gonna talk to him and tell 709 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,879 Speaker 4: him that, which I thought was very rude of Mike 710 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 4: to say that. But yeah, so Trevor's gonna be there 711 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 4: twice a year, and that's not good. 712 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,360 Speaker 3: I used to wish this for Andrew Luck and it worked, 713 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 3: and sometime for Trevor Lawrence not to get hurt, but 714 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 3: just to take a year off or maybe retire just 715 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 3: for safety reasons and to protect his hair so he 716 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 3: doesn't get split ends and that kind of thing. Would 717 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 3: hate to see that happen, Johnny. So see if that 718 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 3: can come through. And you know, the Chargers need to 719 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,720 Speaker 3: run the football a lot better. So do the Texans. 720 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 3: By the way, we think about Pierce all the time 721 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 3: and how good he looked, the Texans still finished second 722 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,279 Speaker 3: to last in rushing yard direct that's gonna change this year. 723 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 3: Hot take hot prediction right, there that will definitely change, 724 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,759 Speaker 3: all right, A couple of quickies for you. Who's better 725 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:25,439 Speaker 3: The Steelers are toying with the idea or lobbying or something. 726 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 3: I didn't read the whole story, but who cares. They 727 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,760 Speaker 3: would like to play a game in Ireland. Better location 728 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,240 Speaker 3: to play a game in your opinion, Ireland or Germany. 729 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,800 Speaker 3: Where would you want to go, Johnny, Ireland or Germany 730 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 3: to play a game. We're gonna have games in Germany, 731 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:41,320 Speaker 3: we did last year, we will this year. But what 732 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 3: about Ireland? 733 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,240 Speaker 1: I think they would be a great spot. 734 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 4: UCF and Penn State played there in fourteen, which is 735 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:52,800 Speaker 4: supposed to be O'Leary v. O'Brien, which is an irishman's dream, seemingly, 736 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 4: but then Bill took the Texans job, and I can't 737 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 4: remember for I think O'Leary coached that team at that point, 738 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:06,279 Speaker 4: but he was gone shortly thereafter. Anyhow, Nebraska Northwestern played 739 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,759 Speaker 4: there last year, so I think Ireland has been shown, 740 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 4: you know for the college game. 741 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,800 Speaker 1: Hey, yeah, I'd much rather go to Germany. 742 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 4: It sounds it and it just feels when you watch 743 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,759 Speaker 4: a game in Germany, And I don't know, maybe it's 744 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 4: because there's been a game in Germany versus an NFL 745 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 4: game in Ireland. The passion for the German from the 746 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 4: German fans is incredible. I remember when the Ryan Fire 747 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 4: was in the World League of American Football and it 748 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:35,839 Speaker 4: was always passionate. The Frankfurt Galaxy, I think it felt 749 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,879 Speaker 4: like it was a it was a Premier League game 750 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:40,440 Speaker 4: on steroids. 751 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,840 Speaker 1: I mean, it was just crazy and chance and everything. 752 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,280 Speaker 4: So I think I'd want to experience that in Germany, 753 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,640 Speaker 4: although I think either one is pretty good, but I'll 754 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:50,759 Speaker 4: go to Germany with Alan Mark. 755 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:55,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I'd pick Ireland actually, and maybe it's 756 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,320 Speaker 3: because of the way my mother felt about the Germans 757 00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 3: having grown up in the Netherlands. Sorry Germans, she said, it, 758 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 3: not me, all right. A media partner for the NFL 759 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:09,080 Speaker 3: is back. You thought they were gone, but they're back. 760 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 3: Who are they? Other stuff going on around the league 761 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 3: as well. We'll get to it next here on Texans Radio. 762 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,440 Speaker 3: Stay tuned for more on the Houston Texans and the 763 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 3: NFL on Texans All Excess. Tixans Radio is back. Sometimes 764 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,839 Speaker 3: I just like reading little headlines from Pro Football Talk, 765 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:34,719 Speaker 3: including this one Davante Adams. Things get taken out of context. 766 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 3: I love everybody here, and I could label this as 767 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,719 Speaker 3: things my ten year old might say, Hey, I got 768 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 3: to take it out of context. I really do love 769 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 3: everybody here, all right, Johnny, I'm gonna phrase this as 770 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,360 Speaker 3: a who's better kind of thing? Are you ready for this? 771 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 2: All right? 772 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:57,400 Speaker 3: Better return when you thought it was over, Case Keenum 773 00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 3: coming out of the Deer Blind in two thousand fourteen, 774 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:06,320 Speaker 3: or direct TV is back actually, just to do the 775 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,480 Speaker 3: bars and restaurants and that kind of stuff. The big 776 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 3: public place is because it's hard to negotiate or work 777 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 3: the YouTube arrangement in those locales. I think I know 778 00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:16,480 Speaker 3: the answer to this one. 779 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 1: Wow, it's direct TV. 780 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,400 Speaker 3: They it's gotta be Case. Come on, I'll never forget 781 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 3: him beating the Ravens and all that. We talked about 782 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:26,840 Speaker 3: that on a recent show now, but that was the 783 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 3: complete It's apples and oranges and peas or something, all right, 784 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 3: But the direct TV thing is interesting. 785 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, very much so. No, I will always be Case. 786 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 1: I'm just kidding with that. But I just didn't. 787 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,880 Speaker 4: When Case came back, there was a part of me 788 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 4: that felt like, well, yeah, it's Case. He's gonna figure 789 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 4: it out. I don't know why I felt that. It's 790 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,360 Speaker 4: still I don't want to minimize what he did, but 791 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 4: that story was great. I was so glad he told 792 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:55,120 Speaker 4: us that story because it confirmed everything that we knew 793 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 4: and then some. 794 00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,759 Speaker 1: But direct TV is back, huh. I didn't see that today. Mark, 795 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,120 Speaker 1: direct TV is back. Good for them. 796 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:08,400 Speaker 3: Here's the thing. It's hard to get the YouTube. I 797 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,160 Speaker 3: want to call it the DirecTV deal, but it's a 798 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,400 Speaker 3: Sunday ticket deal. It's hard to get the Sunday ticket 799 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:17,959 Speaker 3: deal into bars and restaurants. DirecTV already has the infrastructure 800 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 3: for that, so they're gonna do it. They need to 801 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:24,120 Speaker 3: charge separately for it because they charge. If you own 802 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,600 Speaker 3: a bar, restaurant, sports bar, or whatever, you get charged 803 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:31,279 Speaker 3: at different rate than if you have a residence and 804 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,480 Speaker 3: you're buying the Sunday ticket package. So that's how it goes. 805 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:35,800 Speaker 3: I've never had Sunday ticket I have Red Zone obviously, 806 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,120 Speaker 3: but I've never had the Sunday ticket package. 807 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:38,640 Speaker 1: I don't need it. 808 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,080 Speaker 3: I do Texans games on the air, and when I'm 809 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 3: not doing a Texans game, I'm at home watching Red Zone. 810 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 3: I mainline it. It's intravenous. I don't leave the couch. 811 00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:50,320 Speaker 3: It's a problem, really, So there it is. I'm not 812 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,000 Speaker 3: gonna watch much this year because we have all these 813 00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:55,000 Speaker 3: noon starts, right, so I guess I'll watch a little 814 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,040 Speaker 3: when I get home. But the afternoon window doesn't have 815 00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:58,719 Speaker 3: as many games, so it's not as much of a 816 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,400 Speaker 3: must as opposed to when the Texans are in a 817 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,000 Speaker 3: buy or whatever and I'm just sitting down at noon 818 00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 3: and I'm surgically attached to the couch for the next 819 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,040 Speaker 3: seven hours. Because that's just how it goes. But that 820 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,440 Speaker 3: is how it goes. Indeed, Direct TV is back for 821 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:17,719 Speaker 3: bars and restaurants, Johnny the app viewing experience. I think 822 00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,400 Speaker 3: YouTube is going to do fine with this, although they 823 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:24,040 Speaker 3: did point they changed something today. They made an announcement 824 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,840 Speaker 3: that I think the four screen thing you had to 825 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,640 Speaker 3: charge extra. I'm going to butcher this, but they made 826 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,160 Speaker 3: it more affordable to get all the amenities or more 827 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:35,440 Speaker 3: of the amenities from the Sunday ticket package the way 828 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:36,759 Speaker 3: they are laying it out, So I don't know if 829 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 3: they're having problems selling it or not. I haven't seen 830 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:42,239 Speaker 3: much marketing. Look I am who I am. I haven't 831 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,759 Speaker 3: seen any YouTube marketing of the Sunday ticket package, which 832 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,239 Speaker 3: is interesting. Have you have you seen any ads come 833 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:49,560 Speaker 3: across your screens? 834 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,319 Speaker 4: Well, because I have YouTube TV, Yeah, I see them 835 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,920 Speaker 4: until I see because I have them, so I get 836 00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 4: emails all the time. Hey, I don't know if we 837 00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 4: told you this, but you can get Sunday ticket Now. 838 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:03,439 Speaker 4: I don't that I've seen outside of that, but hard 839 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,560 Speaker 4: for me to know, just because I get emails all 840 00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,560 Speaker 4: the time. That's a Sunday ticket. But I did that 841 00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:13,320 Speaker 4: quad box thing, Yeah, the multiview thing during the NCAA tournament. 842 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 1: Now they controlled it. They didn't allow me to do 843 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:19,160 Speaker 1: it back back back back with PlayStation View. 844 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,680 Speaker 4: I had PlayStation View and I could pick what I 845 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:25,160 Speaker 4: wanted to put in the quad box and that was awesome. 846 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,279 Speaker 4: This with the NCAA tournament was awesome. But you they 847 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,160 Speaker 4: would give you options. They would say, you can get 848 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,920 Speaker 4: these two games in a like a dual box. You 849 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,160 Speaker 4: could get this one that has three games going on, 850 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:38,319 Speaker 4: or you can get this one that had four if 851 00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:39,840 Speaker 4: you had four games going on. But they would do 852 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,759 Speaker 4: it for you, which I didn't love that part of it, 853 00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,000 Speaker 4: but they were just experimenting with it for the first time. 854 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:48,200 Speaker 1: So if they have that. 855 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,320 Speaker 4: If you have the multiview with Sunday Ticket and you 856 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:56,000 Speaker 4: now can watch four games at once. That's not quite 857 00:42:56,440 --> 00:43:00,399 Speaker 4: Red Zone, but man, that's pretty sweet if. 858 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:00,840 Speaker 1: You can do that. 859 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,320 Speaker 4: I won't get it, because, like you, I'm with you 860 00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,120 Speaker 4: every Sunday, and I don't know that I want it 861 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,800 Speaker 4: just for the two or three weekends that you know, 862 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:10,680 Speaker 4: at home with a bye week or whatever the case 863 00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,560 Speaker 4: might be. So and I'd rather keep that job, so 864 00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:15,360 Speaker 4: I don't want to sit on the couch for twelve 865 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,440 Speaker 4: hours just going I can't leave the couch because Sunday 866 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,239 Speaker 4: Tickets IV is stuck in my arm because I'm taking 867 00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:22,280 Speaker 4: it intraveniously. 868 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,640 Speaker 3: Uh, Premier League. Do they do something like that with 869 00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:27,319 Speaker 3: Premier League? Because there're a lot of games on at 870 00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,400 Speaker 3: the same time in the Premier League as well, So 871 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:31,360 Speaker 3: not if they have a package like that. 872 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:33,640 Speaker 1: No, not yet. Not yet. 873 00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,560 Speaker 4: NCAA tournament was kind of the first Foray for YouTube, 874 00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:38,919 Speaker 4: but I think they've been playing with this for a while. 875 00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,040 Speaker 1: I think college football is where they want to go 876 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:41,560 Speaker 1: next with it. 877 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:43,840 Speaker 4: But man, if they do that with Sunday Ticket, but 878 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,160 Speaker 4: then again, I don't want them going to Sunday Ticket 879 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,879 Speaker 4: when that thing is not scrub perfectly working the way 880 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:53,160 Speaker 4: that it needs to. Because I think the fans will 881 00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,040 Speaker 4: love think fans will love the multi view. If you 882 00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,239 Speaker 4: got big sixty five seventy inch TV year at home 883 00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,080 Speaker 4: and you get I mean you get four games and 884 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,000 Speaker 4: Mark it was really easy. Like if I wanted the 885 00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:05,480 Speaker 4: sound on one, I would just slide my finger on 886 00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,360 Speaker 4: my remote from one game to the next and the 887 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,200 Speaker 4: sound is seconds later. 888 00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:10,759 Speaker 1: This sound was a different game, it was. 889 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,640 Speaker 3: Sometimes they get frustrated. Sometimes you get frustrated with red 890 00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,040 Speaker 3: Zone because I want the game to breathe a little bit, 891 00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,920 Speaker 3: and they'll pull away from it. But that's okay. I 892 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,120 Speaker 3: figure it out. I live with it anyway. That's it 893 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,480 Speaker 3: for the show tonight. Tomorrow night, we're gonna have some 894 00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,600 Speaker 3: of that Mark Berman conversation with Dbcity, which is up 895 00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,359 Speaker 3: on Houston Texans dot com and the Texans app right now. 896 00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,759 Speaker 3: And I just finished off a podcast. I recorded it 897 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:34,760 Speaker 3: today with John Lopez. I'm gonna put it out tomorrow. 898 00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:39,520 Speaker 3: It is fun stuff. It is gonna be good. Enjoy 899 00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,000 Speaker 3: that over the weekend. I will let you know on 900 00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:45,839 Speaker 3: Twitter when it's gonna drop. As they say, Johnny, Thanks 901 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,800 Speaker 3: a lot for being with us as always, John McClain 902 00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,680 Speaker 3: as well, Thank you Chris for producing. Have a great 903 00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,200 Speaker 3: evening everyone. This show will be up on podcasts soon. 904 00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:59,920 Speaker 3: Enough Go Texans. This is Texans Radio on Sports Radios 905 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:00,480 Speaker 3: six ten