WEBVTT - Hour 2 – ABS Improvements, Pat Forde

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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Radio Hour two.

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<v Speaker 2>On this Wednesday, Dan and the Danets. Dan Patrick Show

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<v Speaker 2>got off to a different, strange, maybe curious start to

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<v Speaker 2>the show because I turned off a basketball game last

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<v Speaker 2>night Texas Tech and Cincinnati only because of the sound,

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<v Speaker 2>the sound of the rim every time these players missed

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<v Speaker 2>a shot, I couldn't take it. So then I'm watching

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<v Speaker 2>Duke Duke against Notre Dame and I'm thinking, uh, what

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<v Speaker 2>happened here? I mean at Notre Dame. Notre Dame hasn't

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<v Speaker 2>lost a game that badly at home. I got to

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<v Speaker 2>get this straight. I think it's eighteen ninety eight. Eighteen, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen ninety eight. Notre Dame lost by forty four points,

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<v Speaker 2>worst home loss since they lost to Chicago First Regiment

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<v Speaker 2>sixty four to eight. That was in eighteen ninety eight.

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<v Speaker 2>They had a good team back then. Chat of the

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<v Speaker 2>Day brought to you by Penane America, the official trading

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<v Speaker 2>cards of the program. The second Regiment was really good

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<v Speaker 2>as well for that Chicago team. Uh So we did

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<v Speaker 2>reach out to Texas Tech as you would expect the

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<v Speaker 2>IT team, because I needed, you know, some kind of

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<v Speaker 2>investigation into the sound of the rim there. If I

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<v Speaker 2>was a big time recruit as much as Texas Tech

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<v Speaker 2>loves their basketball and that environment's great, I wouldn't go

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<v Speaker 2>there because of the sound of the rim.

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<v Speaker 3>And you may change your mind after you hear the

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<v Speaker 3>report Texas Tech Basketball. The Deputy ad Jonathan Butro sent

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<v Speaker 3>down staffers. They checked both rims and both are functioning properly.

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<v Speaker 3>They went back and listened to the broadcast and they

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<v Speaker 3>think it's Mike implication amplification and it was not anything

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<v Speaker 3>wrong with the rims.

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<v Speaker 2>Here we go.

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<v Speaker 3>He added that he will ask, Yeah, blame the networks, classics.

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<v Speaker 2>Not my fault, blame the TV.

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<v Speaker 4>Well.

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<v Speaker 3>He also said he's going to ask the shooters on

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<v Speaker 3>the team to stop missing.

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<v Speaker 2>You. I couldn't take it. They didn't miss that many shots.

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<v Speaker 2>They scored any points. Well, Cincinnati missed shots. Yeah, now

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<v Speaker 2>that was the problem. I'm just going I can't take it.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I can accept the little think in you know,

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<v Speaker 2>college World Series, but this being a you know shooter,

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<v Speaker 2>I had a problem with it. And I'm going on,

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<v Speaker 2>let me let me check on the Duke game and

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<v Speaker 2>I go there is no game there. I was waiting

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<v Speaker 2>for Hannah Hidalgo to come out on the floor for

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<v Speaker 2>Notre Dame to help him out. Yes, Todd, can you

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<v Speaker 2>watch a.

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<v Speaker 5>Basketball game with no audio? Or was it because you said,

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<v Speaker 5>like you kind of you rather stop watching it all

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<v Speaker 5>together than to maybe just.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, trying to familiarize myself with these teams. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>Cincinnati just had a big win against Kansas. Like I'm

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<v Speaker 2>trying to learn. You know, who's my sleeper? You know

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<v Speaker 2>that eight nine game. You know I'm gonna pick? Who

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<v Speaker 2>am I picking? Twelve five? You gotta get ready?

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<v Speaker 6>How you do a crash course like that in these

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<v Speaker 6>last week.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying, Yes, I'm trying. Yeah, I should just call

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<v Speaker 2>up Jay Billis and say, you know, just download me

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<v Speaker 2>on what's going on.

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<v Speaker 6>We'll pick three ones at a two.

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<v Speaker 2>Eight seven seven three DP show. More phone calls coming up.

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<v Speaker 2>We're being inundated with annoying sounds in sports Tyler sitting by,

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<v Speaker 2>he'll take your phone calls. We'll talk to Pat Forty,

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<v Speaker 2>our good budding from Sports Illustrated and he was over

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<v Speaker 2>in Italy covering the Olympics. We'll talk to him about

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<v Speaker 2>that experience here in a little bit. We'll also bring

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<v Speaker 2>back some of the sounds some of the interviews yesterday

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<v Speaker 2>with the gms at the Combine, which I always find

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<v Speaker 2>fun and fascinating because there's really pressing questions that they

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<v Speaker 2>need to answer, and the gms normally don't get in

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<v Speaker 2>front of the media, so they're not as media as savvy,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm always looking for maybe just a little crack

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<v Speaker 2>in the window there. Hey, wait a minute, what's he

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<v Speaker 2>really saying here about Kyler Murray or two a tongue

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<v Speaker 2>of ioloa or Aaron Rodgers. So we'll have some of

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<v Speaker 2>that for you coming up. Stat of the Day is

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<v Speaker 2>whole question from the first hour seat.

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<v Speaker 7>And and then hour two honors the uh more annoying sound

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<v Speaker 7>in sports a tenny rim in basketball or the metal

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<v Speaker 7>bat in baseball. It's gotten back and forth. It's been

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<v Speaker 7>about a fifty one percent swinging either way between the

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<v Speaker 7>tenny rim or the metal bat.

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<v Speaker 2>Very very close, full quest, All right, super close.

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<v Speaker 7>Then we have another one here from Todd would you

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<v Speaker 7>prefer having an automated system that calls balls and strikes

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<v Speaker 7>on every MLB pitch.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes or no, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Would lean towards yes. I think you could make this

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<v Speaker 2>not theatrical, but you could make this part of the

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<v Speaker 2>broadcast where you're looking up at the jumbo tron and

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to be able to see what is a

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<v Speaker 2>ball and a strike. You don't need the umpire to

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<v Speaker 2>call out ball or strike because soon as the pitch

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<v Speaker 2>is thrown, you'll look at the jumbo tron and you'll

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<v Speaker 2>be able to tell if it's a ball or strike

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<v Speaker 2>if the batter doesn't swing. And I think we're getting

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<v Speaker 2>closer to this because what we're finding out is, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the automatic balls and strikes you know nobody has. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no human element to that of you know, that

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<v Speaker 2>guy is a Hall of Famer, I'm going to give

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<v Speaker 2>him that pitch, or that pitcher he's a Hall of Famer,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to give him that pitch. You don't have that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just here the parameters for a strike zone. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>the TV coverage already gives you sort of a strike zone.

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<v Speaker 2>You get to see it. But once again, you have

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<v Speaker 2>to understand that camera is not right behind the pitcher,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's off to the right hand side of the pitcher,

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<v Speaker 2>so you don't get a true strike zone. You may

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<v Speaker 2>go both it's a strike, but in reality it might

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<v Speaker 2>not be. With the automatic the ABS system, I'm all

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<v Speaker 2>for it. Let's do it. Put it in place. Now

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<v Speaker 2>you still need everybody gets caught up with it's a robot.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not a robot. All it is is a system

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<v Speaker 2>just like tennis has. Tennis doesn't have any robots, but

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<v Speaker 2>they have the same parameters of ball in or out.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you have it, you have to have an

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<v Speaker 2>umpire there for fair and foul, you know, something on

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<v Speaker 2>the mound or you know if a batter chips catcher's glove,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, plays at the plate. You still have to

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<v Speaker 2>have an umpire there. Take it, take the balls and

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<v Speaker 2>strikes out of this and make it a production where

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<v Speaker 2>you put it up on the Jumbo tron and everybody

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<v Speaker 2>gets to follow along with it. And I think you

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<v Speaker 2>would be surprised. There was a there were five consecutive

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<v Speaker 2>calls in a game yesterday where the umpire missed all

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<v Speaker 2>five in a row. Because they show what the strike

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<v Speaker 2>zone is and he missed five in a row, and

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<v Speaker 2>then he got the six to one right and then

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<v Speaker 2>the crowd cheered. So you can have what you think

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<v Speaker 2>is a strike zone. I don't want your strike zone.

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<v Speaker 2>I want our strike zone. Everybody's strike zone. Now, it

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<v Speaker 2>does change if Altuve or Aaron Judge is up, you

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<v Speaker 2>have to adjust. But they're able to do this, and

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<v Speaker 2>they're doing it in the minor leagues, they're doing it

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<v Speaker 2>in spring training. I'm okay with it. Get the call right.

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<v Speaker 2>If I can get the call correct, and these umpires

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<v Speaker 2>do an amazing job because I'm looking at you know,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe they get ninety six percent of the calls right.

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<v Speaker 2>That's really at a high level. But if you can

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<v Speaker 2>get all of them right, balls and strikes, why wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>you do that? And I go back to all of

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<v Speaker 2>the gambling money. You got to get these things right. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>You still have the human element play at the plate

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<v Speaker 2>with the Blue Jays and the Dodgers, you still have

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<v Speaker 2>to have the home plate umpires. So it's not a robot,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just overhead big brother watching. Yeah, Paul.

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<v Speaker 3>So with this new ABS challenge, we got this from

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<v Speaker 3>and I'll be Each team starts the game with two challenges.

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<v Speaker 3>When the batter wants to challenge it, he taps his

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<v Speaker 3>helmet and a challenge it. So if he gets it wrong,

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<v Speaker 3>they're down to one challenge. If he gets it wrong again,

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<v Speaker 3>they're down to zero. But at BT you talked about it.

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<v Speaker 3>If you get it right when you challenge, you keep

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<v Speaker 3>your two challenges, and you keep going forward with two challenges.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I like it. Once again, if we have the technology,

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<v Speaker 2>use the technology, and baseball has the technology, but we

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<v Speaker 2>get once again, I said this yesterday. We we think

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<v Speaker 2>it's part of the charm of baseball that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>that guy has his own strike zonner. Hey, that guy

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<v Speaker 2>what out, but he called him out. You know, the

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<v Speaker 2>neighborhood play at Second Bay. Let's just get these calls right,

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<v Speaker 2>nothing wrong. You still have the human element of this.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if they'll get to and you could,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, have a reviewable play if there's a force

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<v Speaker 2>out and you think they missed it, or a tag up,

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<v Speaker 2>you know for a fly ball sack fly and you

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<v Speaker 2>can still review that. You can question that. But balls

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<v Speaker 2>and strikes, let's implement it.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I mean it's been tested in Triple A, you know, right,

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<v Speaker 7>So it's not sneaking up on anybody within baseball, and

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<v Speaker 7>they know exactly how well it works and how it

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<v Speaker 7>impacts the game.

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<v Speaker 2>Pitch clockworked, right, nobody's complaining about that. There are a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of things that were introduced to Major League Baseball

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<v Speaker 2>the last couple of years, and I'm okay with ABS. No,

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<v Speaker 2>I just I think we the word robot was you

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<v Speaker 2>know that was introduced. I go, no, No, it's not robotic.

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<v Speaker 2>All it is is a camera is going to watch.

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<v Speaker 2>Just make sure that all of the ballparks have the

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<v Speaker 2>same technology, the same equipment. That's the only thing that

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<v Speaker 2>I would guard against, because there are times when you'll

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<v Speaker 2>watch an NFL game they don't have the same number

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<v Speaker 2>of cameras at a game that let's say it's the

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<v Speaker 2>Packers against the cow Boys, Well they're gonna have more

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<v Speaker 2>cameras there, or a playoff game. You just want to

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<v Speaker 2>make sure that each game is featuring the same kind

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<v Speaker 2>of equipment. Yes, Todd, So the technology.

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<v Speaker 5>Will will tell the umpire what to call. The umpire

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<v Speaker 5>will still be able to announce the balls and strikes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if he wants to go, they're gonna put it

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<v Speaker 2>up on the jumbo tron or they'll say it in

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<v Speaker 2>his ear, you know, be like strike ball, because because

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<v Speaker 2>you do that, great.

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<v Speaker 5>Ye hit cah, I was still gonna have like those

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<v Speaker 5>sound effects from the umpire, even though it's being told

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<v Speaker 5>by a computer deciding whether it's a bust paper.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you can do that if you want, because I

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<v Speaker 2>would you kind of miss that. I like when you

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<v Speaker 2>do that. Yeah, but you miss the grown man in

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<v Speaker 2>a baseball uniform going out to home plate and kicking

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<v Speaker 2>dirt on an umpire. Yes.

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<v Speaker 5>I love what a manager loses their mind. Then they

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<v Speaker 5>just start throwing bats and balls from the dugout and

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<v Speaker 5>they get right in the face and cursing out the

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<v Speaker 5>ump and they got to be held back, and another

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<v Speaker 5>ump is like trying to calm him down.

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<v Speaker 6>I just think that's great. I'd love it.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't happen anymore.

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<v Speaker 6>It's very sad that it doesn't.

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, it's not sad. First of all, you got

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<v Speaker 2>to a grown man in a baseball uniform. That's always weird.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, this out of shape guy and he's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>waddle out there to home plate and he's gonna argue,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm gonna turn my hat backwards. And I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>get in your face there. It's stupid, it's hysterical, it's sad,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, grown man, I'm gonna pick up this base

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm gonna throw it.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh my god. Yes, yes, marmon, tiny correction. They're all

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<v Speaker 8>grown men that are playing Major League baseball. But it's

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<v Speaker 8>just a really grown man, old man, right. Yes, And

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<v Speaker 8>they got numbers. That was always my big Joe toy.

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<v Speaker 8>Why are you wearing number six? Why didn't have numbers?

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<v Speaker 2>Man? Yeah, now, I'm okay with I'm okay with a number.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe in bank, old managers have the same number. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but I would not want to see me in a

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<v Speaker 2>baseball uniform running out the home plate.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, paul I looked back at the rules for this

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<v Speaker 3>ABS challenge. The batter has to tap his head immediately

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<v Speaker 3>after the umpire's call of ball or strike, and if

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<v Speaker 3>you don't, they could wave it off. You can't pause. Also,

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<v Speaker 3>the dugout can't tap their heads like, hey, man, tap

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<v Speaker 3>your head, tap your head. That is not allowed.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not allowed to influence the battery exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>It's in the language. The manager and the other players

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<v Speaker 3>cannot influence the batter, so can't be any head tapping

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<v Speaker 3>from the dugout?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think the Astros will abide by that?

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<v Speaker 9>Move on?

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<v Speaker 2>Move on soon, too soon, move on?

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<v Speaker 5>You know?

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<v Speaker 7>I one, I think, like, just do the automated stuff

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<v Speaker 7>tapping your head, but you're only allowed to do it twice.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you get it to right, you get to

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<v Speaker 2>do it. What are we doing? Can you tap your

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<v Speaker 2>head and rub your stomach at the same time? What

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<v Speaker 2>are we doing? What we do?

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<v Speaker 7>By the way, I can't stop thinking about like Phil

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<v Speaker 7>Jackson sitting on the bench in warm ups or something,

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<v Speaker 7>or wearing his uniform still even though he's a certain age,

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<v Speaker 7>Like can you imagine if pat Riley instead of the

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<v Speaker 7>suit and slick back hair, he was in a Lakers

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<v Speaker 7>uniform or then then a heat Like what are we doing?

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<v Speaker 2>If you if you do that, if they wore warm ups,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd be okay with it, But I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>see some sixty five year old guy's legs there, yes, Todd.

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<v Speaker 5>And there and their jersey tank tap with their big

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<v Speaker 5>seventy year old muscles. That would be entertained too.

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<v Speaker 7>Andy Reid should be doing, oh, you know, calling the

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<v Speaker 7>game in a full you know, helmet pads, everything get well.

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<v Speaker 2>He looked like he did in the punt passing kick

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<v Speaker 2>contest when he was thirteen. What are we doing? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>what are we doing making these coaches where they're in uniform, Yes, Marv.

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<v Speaker 8>And baseball, we're going to get tired of guys tapping

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<v Speaker 8>their helmets like we get tired of NBA players gesturing,

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<v Speaker 8>oh you know with the finger. Oh, replay that replay

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<v Speaker 8>challenge that it's gonna get old real fast.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh JJ in Florida, Hi JJ. Woods on your mind, Dan, good.

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<v Speaker 1>Good morning.

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<v Speaker 2>More I'll on the hold.

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<v Speaker 10>I thought of another one, and it's sort of if

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<v Speaker 10>this or either gets the puck off the post or

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<v Speaker 10>the opponent, Holy that gets the puck off the boats

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<v Speaker 10>or the cross bark. That's a good chounce. But the

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<v Speaker 10>one that really gets to me is at the Toona

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<v Speaker 10>or talidated when you have the big one and fifteen

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<v Speaker 10>cars start going sideways down the turn into the wall.

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<v Speaker 9>Crack.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm okay with that. That's exciting. I mean, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>have If you're not rubbing, you're not racing.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, Tom, what's gonna happen like in the playoffs or

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<v Speaker 5>the World Series where it's the last out and instead

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<v Speaker 5>of having that moment strength, Oh wait, he tapped his head.

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<v Speaker 5>Old on, you just ruined the whole moment of any

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<v Speaker 5>I know that's gonna be horrible.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I know it could be. Oh hold on,

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<v Speaker 2>he tapped his head.

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<v Speaker 6>You can't get that moment back because he tapped his head.

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<v Speaker 6>It's over.

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<v Speaker 2>Just ruined the whole last picture of the last ball.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't that happen?

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<v Speaker 3>In the Super Bowl twenty eight three comeback, Tom Brady

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<v Speaker 3>was at the touchdown to James White to win it,

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<v Speaker 3>and they're like, we got to replay it and look at.

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<v Speaker 2>The video before. I don't think you scored a touchdown.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you're still Yeah, I don't think so, but I

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<v Speaker 2>do think he should have been MVP. Just it's just

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<v Speaker 2>like Malcolm Butler should have been MVP. Don't get me started. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>Steven in New York? Hi, Steven, Hey, how's it going, Dan?

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<v Speaker 2>Good Bude.

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<v Speaker 9>Best sound in sports is during COVID MMA like UFC.

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<v Speaker 2>Where you're hearing what everything.

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<v Speaker 9>Just yeah, pretty much everything just to contact from the cists,

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<v Speaker 9>the kicks, just not no crowds around and you can

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<v Speaker 9>just hear everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know when you hear a punch, I get

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<v Speaker 2>a fight. I mean, it's just when they connect and

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<v Speaker 2>all that power and you're just going, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>how you survive this? H Do you think is that

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<v Speaker 2>more your neck? When like when you're.

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<v Speaker 7>Like to be able to survive hits like that and

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<v Speaker 7>not get just knocked out all the time? Is that

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<v Speaker 7>like next strength?

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<v Speaker 9>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I've never been punched like that, Yes, Todd,

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<v Speaker 2>I was at.

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<v Speaker 5>A De la Hoya fight many years ago in La

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<v Speaker 5>and is when you see like the blood and the

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<v Speaker 5>swelling of the face and that kind of stuff. Even

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<v Speaker 5>though you can get an idea watching on TV, besides

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<v Speaker 5>just the actual punch in the sound, if you get

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<v Speaker 5>an up close look of what how their face is

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<v Speaker 5>getting puffy and contorted, that's a whole other story.

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<v Speaker 6>It's very difficult to.

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<v Speaker 2>Look at it.

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<v Speaker 8>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the Paul brothers got his jaw broken, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know that's when you get punched by somebody who

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<v Speaker 2>does this for a living. You know, you know there's

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<v Speaker 2>no fake stuff or maneuvering or scripted or any of

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<v Speaker 2>that stuff. He got punched, and he that will affect

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<v Speaker 2>him the rest of his life. Because that's where they

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<v Speaker 2>like they rearranged your jawline there, and he's gonna have

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<v Speaker 2>he's gonna have a few surgeries.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure he got paid a ton of money. Who's

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<v Speaker 2>the guy who hit him, Anthony Joshua. Okay, mister Joshua,

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<v Speaker 2>well dropped them. Man oh man. That one was where

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<v Speaker 2>you can go. Yeah, okay, you want to be a

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<v Speaker 2>boxing celebrity or personality, here you go. Just make sure that,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Tyson would have done that if he was

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<v Speaker 2>allowed to hit Jake Paul. What are you saying. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>saying I wish Mike would have been able to swing away. Damn.

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<v Speaker 6>I did the best they could.

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<v Speaker 2>Then, come on, thank you, Todd. We'll take a break.

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<v Speaker 2>More phone calls coming up. I got to get to

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<v Speaker 2>this NFL stuff, which I will with the GMS because

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of topics. It's too much fun. I know.

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<v Speaker 2>We are. We stumbled upon this. We're still waiting for

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<v Speaker 2>Texas Tech to come clean on these basketball rims that

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<v Speaker 2>they have. They shifted the blame to the TV people typical, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>blame us the talking hairdoos. We're gonna find out exactly

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<v Speaker 2>why these rims sound so crappy at Texas Tech. Gonna

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<v Speaker 2>have to go down there and put on I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>shooting display. We'll take a break. We'll come back after

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<v Speaker 2>He does it all cover his college basketball, college football,

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<v Speaker 2>and the Olympics. Pat forty Sports Illustrated senior writer, have

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<v Speaker 2>you been to Texas Tech like this? Rim is bothering me?

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<v Speaker 2>I turned off the game line night because of the

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<v Speaker 2>sound here. Pat, I'm such a loser.

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<v Speaker 12>It is the the one power conference school I haven't

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<v Speaker 12>been to Okay for some reason, I just can't make

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<v Speaker 12>myself rush to love it. Okay, But so I can't

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<v Speaker 12>tell you whether the rim sounds that bad in person

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<v Speaker 12>as it does on TV.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there an arena where it's noticeable to you, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>with the with like the rim sound like the clank?

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<v Speaker 9>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>It just sounds different. There's certain there's And March Madness

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<v Speaker 2>brings this out too, where you just hear that clank

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<v Speaker 2>and it drove me crazy last night.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, well a lot of times too. March Madness like

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<v Speaker 12>they're bringing out new rims sometimes because you know that

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<v Speaker 12>you're playing in a different arena. Maybe they're using the

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<v Speaker 12>NBA rims, but maybe they're bringing in new ones. So

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<v Speaker 12>you get all kinds of a variety I guess of

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<v Speaker 12>rim tones if you will.

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<v Speaker 2>You were in Italy in Milan for three weeks. So

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<v Speaker 2>ten years from now, the obvious is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>the men's hockey team that we'll remember, correct, Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>without question? What would be the second topic that will

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<v Speaker 2>remember from these Olympics.

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<v Speaker 12>The women's team and the women's game. I think hockey

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<v Speaker 12>that was phenomenal. I covered both of those, and the

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<v Speaker 12>intensity of that game was no less than the men's.

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<v Speaker 12>I mean, I think like the Canadian fans especially are

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<v Speaker 12>more bought in on the men's team, but they still

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<v Speaker 12>support women's hockey and hockey is their birthright sport and

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<v Speaker 12>they don't see themselves losing and having it be justifiable

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<v Speaker 12>in any way, shape or formance. Like if the US

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<v Speaker 12>doesn't win gold in basketball, right, there's no excuses, no

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<v Speaker 12>justifiable excuses. So the investment is immense there. And the

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<v Speaker 12>US and the women's tide was so dominant and blew

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<v Speaker 12>out the Canadians, and you think that's going to be

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<v Speaker 12>a walkover, and it ended up being this unbelievable dogfight

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<v Speaker 12>that really mirrored the men's. It was one to one

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<v Speaker 12>in ot going into overtime, took us spectacular goal to win.

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<v Speaker 12>So I think that one really stood out to me

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<v Speaker 12>as well. The skiing, the alpine skiing shifferent and then

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<v Speaker 12>the horrible, horrible injury to Lindsay Vaughan as well.

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<v Speaker 2>You you know, we made a movie out of the

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<v Speaker 2>miracle on ice this this hockey team. It played out

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<v Speaker 2>like it was a movie in real life that's happening here.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I could see Timothy Chalomey playing Jack Hughes

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<v Speaker 2>with his teeth cracked at the end of it. Johnny Hockey,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they bring out Goodrow's jersey, they bring out

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<v Speaker 2>his kids on the ice, you know, us against Canada.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, it just felt theatrical more than you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was going to one.

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<v Speaker 12>Hundred percent cinematic, that's for sure. I mean it was.

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<v Speaker 12>It was incredible, not just you know, the storylines, but

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<v Speaker 12>then the way the game played out, and then yes,

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<v Speaker 12>the the aftermath, the elements. First of all, yes, of

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<v Speaker 12>the the guy that scores the winning goal getting his

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<v Speaker 12>face busted open a few minutes earlier, but then yes,

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<v Speaker 12>the Gaudreau scene was incredible there in person, I ended

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<v Speaker 12>up standing behind Johnny Hockey's family during the anthem and

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<v Speaker 12>talking to his dad immediately afterward. And I mean, you

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<v Speaker 12>want to talk about an emotional scene, and just you know,

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<v Speaker 12>it was hard for them to be there, really hard

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<v Speaker 12>for them to be there, but the pride that they had,

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<v Speaker 12>and then I think the way that they were honored

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<v Speaker 12>by the team was immensely gratifying for them.

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<v Speaker 2>How surprising was it to actually see them there?

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<v Speaker 12>I was surprised, Like I you know, again, I don't

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<v Speaker 12>know whether if I were in that situation, it would

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<v Speaker 12>have the wherewithal to be there for that. But they're

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<v Speaker 12>a hockey family. I mean, Guy Gudreau, the dad was

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<v Speaker 12>a player, was a coach. They you know, hockey is

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<v Speaker 12>in their blood and so they were certainly going to

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<v Speaker 12>be watching the games anyway. And I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 12>the the poll or the investment that the invitation that

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<v Speaker 12>was offered for them to be part of it and

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<v Speaker 12>in such a meaningful way, I think really sold him

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<v Speaker 12>on let's let's go ahead and do it. And then

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<v Speaker 12>to have it turn out that way, I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 12>for American Americans to be pretty badly outplayed for a

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<v Speaker 12>lot of that game and still find a way to win,

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<v Speaker 12>and then to honor him who You're right, that is theatrical.

0:23:15.359 --> 0:23:19.360
<v Speaker 2>Pat forty Sports Illustrated senior writer and his podcast others

0:23:19.560 --> 0:23:23.320
<v Speaker 2>receiving votes. I was curious about some of the talent

0:23:23.400 --> 0:23:28.560
<v Speaker 2>at the combine. You cover college football, and best player

0:23:28.600 --> 0:23:31.560
<v Speaker 2>you saw this year at any position was who.

0:23:32.880 --> 0:23:37.280
<v Speaker 12>Maybe Jeremiah Love in terms of like I think translation

0:23:37.440 --> 0:23:41.080
<v Speaker 12>to NFL boy, I look at him and I think

0:23:41.160 --> 0:23:44.119
<v Speaker 12>that he I'd be really shocked if he missed. I

0:23:44.119 --> 0:23:46.439
<v Speaker 12>think Fernando Mendoz is awesome. I voted for him to

0:23:46.440 --> 0:23:48.600
<v Speaker 12>win the Heisman. He's probably gonna be the first pick.

0:23:49.000 --> 0:23:52.080
<v Speaker 12>But quarterback going into the Raiders in that situation, you know,

0:23:52.160 --> 0:23:56.439
<v Speaker 12>best of luck to you. Ruben Bain from Miami is

0:23:56.440 --> 0:24:00.200
<v Speaker 12>another guy who I think is close to can't miss,

0:24:00.240 --> 0:24:06.080
<v Speaker 12>just incredible motor, violence, instinct, everything, and at a position

0:24:06.119 --> 0:24:09.120
<v Speaker 12>where there's always a premium on talent for rushing the passer.

0:24:10.040 --> 0:24:13.919
<v Speaker 2>Ty Simpson, you know, I got to see him a

0:24:13.960 --> 0:24:16.720
<v Speaker 2>couple of times, like a full game, and I was

0:24:16.760 --> 0:24:20.760
<v Speaker 2>impressed with him. But then at the end of the year,

0:24:21.200 --> 0:24:23.399
<v Speaker 2>you know, he fell off, the team fell off, he

0:24:23.440 --> 0:24:27.679
<v Speaker 2>got hurt. But it still feels like you know, supply

0:24:27.720 --> 0:24:31.560
<v Speaker 2>and demand. There's one it feels like surefire quarterback, and

0:24:31.600 --> 0:24:35.200
<v Speaker 2>then there's a couple that I don't know. I don't Yeah,

0:24:35.280 --> 0:24:38.439
<v Speaker 2>and that brings me to somebody is going to jump

0:24:38.560 --> 0:24:42.479
<v Speaker 2>in the first round probably and draft him, and in

0:24:42.520 --> 0:24:45.520
<v Speaker 2>any other draft he's probably not a first round pick.

0:24:46.520 --> 0:24:46.720
<v Speaker 9>Right.

0:24:46.800 --> 0:24:50.080
<v Speaker 12>There's a very low supply of good quarterbacks this year,

0:24:50.119 --> 0:24:54.360
<v Speaker 12>and so he becomes more valuable, and you know, I agree, Look,

0:24:54.400 --> 0:24:57.439
<v Speaker 12>there are times I thought he played exceptionally well. He

0:24:57.440 --> 0:24:59.760
<v Speaker 12>would have great games where he would have great stretches

0:24:59.760 --> 0:25:02.159
<v Speaker 12>of but then by the end of the season he

0:25:02.280 --> 0:25:04.399
<v Speaker 12>was not very effective. It looked like he lost a

0:25:04.400 --> 0:25:08.080
<v Speaker 12>lot of his confidence. You know, against Indiana he looked

0:25:08.119 --> 0:25:12.920
<v Speaker 12>completely perplexed, confused, overwhelmed, and then he ended up getting hurt,

0:25:14.000 --> 0:25:14.199
<v Speaker 12>you know.

0:25:14.320 --> 0:25:14.800
<v Speaker 2>Quarterback.

0:25:14.960 --> 0:25:17.720
<v Speaker 12>To me, it's such a learning positions. You know, the

0:25:18.160 --> 0:25:20.280
<v Speaker 12>very few guys just come in and are ready to

0:25:20.359 --> 0:25:23.040
<v Speaker 12>go right away. And so I think you look at

0:25:23.080 --> 0:25:25.720
<v Speaker 12>ty Simpson and think, yeah, he can get there, but

0:25:26.520 --> 0:25:29.080
<v Speaker 12>are you gonna thrust him into a bad position early

0:25:29.320 --> 0:25:32.639
<v Speaker 12>and risk you know, fracturing his confidence even further than

0:25:32.640 --> 0:25:35.399
<v Speaker 12>it seemed like it happened at Alabama. I don't know,

0:25:35.520 --> 0:25:37.040
<v Speaker 12>you know, that's one of those things. That's why they

0:25:37.040 --> 0:25:40.040
<v Speaker 12>pay gms to kind of do that calculus of how

0:25:40.080 --> 0:25:42.360
<v Speaker 12>soon do we need somebody who's probably not ready.

0:25:42.560 --> 0:25:44.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it's an aberration. I don't know

0:25:44.800 --> 0:25:47.760
<v Speaker 2>if it's just a stretch here, but it suddenly feels

0:25:47.800 --> 0:25:50.520
<v Speaker 2>like college football runs through the Big Ten and not

0:25:50.600 --> 0:25:57.359
<v Speaker 2>the SEC. If you're the SEC, you don't have tech money,

0:25:57.400 --> 0:26:00.760
<v Speaker 2>some have oil money. But how do you counter the

0:26:00.800 --> 0:26:02.159
<v Speaker 2>Big Ten moving forward?

0:26:02.800 --> 0:26:05.080
<v Speaker 12>It's a great question because there really is been. There

0:26:05.080 --> 0:26:07.600
<v Speaker 12>has been an undeniable shift, right. They've won three different

0:26:07.600 --> 0:26:09.600
<v Speaker 12>three straight national champions who with three different teams the

0:26:09.640 --> 0:26:12.719
<v Speaker 12>kind of thing the SEC used to do. The SEC

0:26:12.760 --> 0:26:15.840
<v Speaker 12>hasn't had a team in the championship game the last

0:26:15.880 --> 0:26:20.120
<v Speaker 12>three years. And yes, the pockets tend to be deeper

0:26:21.160 --> 0:26:29.040
<v Speaker 12>with alumni bases at those huge, relatively academically prestigious Midwestern universities, Eastern,

0:26:29.440 --> 0:26:31.120
<v Speaker 12>you know some to the West too, they're all over

0:26:31.119 --> 0:26:33.399
<v Speaker 12>the place now with the Big ten. I think what

0:26:33.480 --> 0:26:35.320
<v Speaker 12>you have to do is get back to proof of

0:26:35.440 --> 0:26:39.240
<v Speaker 12>concept and say we will pay you enough so that

0:26:39.320 --> 0:26:42.320
<v Speaker 12>you're getting you're getting a good college living, but we're

0:26:42.320 --> 0:26:43.879
<v Speaker 12>gonna get you to the NFL where you're gonna make

0:26:43.920 --> 0:26:45.000
<v Speaker 12>a great college living.

0:26:45.440 --> 0:26:46.600
<v Speaker 2>You've got to be able.

0:26:46.400 --> 0:26:49.439
<v Speaker 12>To show we're gonna put guys in the first round

0:26:49.680 --> 0:26:52.000
<v Speaker 12>and we're gonna get you those contracts, and you're gonna

0:26:52.040 --> 0:26:54.800
<v Speaker 12>be rich regardless of You're gonna be kind of rich

0:26:54.840 --> 0:26:57.120
<v Speaker 12>in college, and then you're gonna be filthy rich afterwards

0:26:57.160 --> 0:26:59.840
<v Speaker 12>because you've played at Georgia or you've played at Alabama,

0:27:00.119 --> 0:27:01.359
<v Speaker 12>or you played at Texas.

0:27:01.600 --> 0:27:05.640
<v Speaker 2>But is as simple as some have suggested that hey,

0:27:05.840 --> 0:27:10.040
<v Speaker 2>you paid players. Now everybody gets paid, therefore you don't

0:27:10.080 --> 0:27:11.160
<v Speaker 2>have that advantage.

0:27:11.680 --> 0:27:15.159
<v Speaker 12>No, no, no, no, that you know, the oversimplifications of

0:27:15.440 --> 0:27:18.200
<v Speaker 12>all these things are kind of humorous, you know. I mean,

0:27:18.240 --> 0:27:20.280
<v Speaker 12>there has been a shift, but that doesn't mean nobody

0:27:20.280 --> 0:27:20.960
<v Speaker 12>else was cheating.

0:27:21.720 --> 0:27:24.560
<v Speaker 13>I'm relatively aware of what was going on at various

0:27:24.600 --> 0:27:29.119
<v Speaker 13>different schools, NCAA investigations, what the parking lots looked like

0:27:29.200 --> 0:27:31.560
<v Speaker 13>in a lot of those football powers that weren't in

0:27:31.600 --> 0:27:32.159
<v Speaker 13>the SEC.

0:27:32.880 --> 0:27:37.040
<v Speaker 12>Come on, now, it's not that simple to would degree. Yeah,

0:27:37.040 --> 0:27:38.440
<v Speaker 12>but it's not the factor.

0:27:38.600 --> 0:27:40.920
<v Speaker 2>Okay, you not to name the school, but is there

0:27:41.160 --> 0:27:44.960
<v Speaker 2>one you know that maybe was egregious in what they

0:27:44.960 --> 0:27:46.840
<v Speaker 2>were doing? He got a story.

0:27:47.600 --> 0:27:49.000
<v Speaker 12>I mean, I think there are plenty of them in

0:27:49.040 --> 0:27:50.840
<v Speaker 12>the state of Texas, none of which used to be

0:27:51.080 --> 0:27:57.080
<v Speaker 12>in the SEC until recently. The West Coast certainly. I mean, look,

0:27:57.200 --> 0:28:01.639
<v Speaker 12>USC got hit pretty hard. Miami had some spectacular scandals.

0:28:01.680 --> 0:28:06.000
<v Speaker 12>Everybody remembers Devin Shapiro there. Clemson had some stuff going

0:28:06.000 --> 0:28:09.000
<v Speaker 12>on back in the day. So you know, it's happened.

0:28:09.040 --> 0:28:12.000
<v Speaker 12>It's been around at various places. So I'm not here

0:28:12.040 --> 0:28:15.760
<v Speaker 12>to say that everybody else was clutching their pearls pristinely

0:28:15.760 --> 0:28:17.480
<v Speaker 12>while the SEC was wheeling and dealing.

0:28:17.600 --> 0:28:21.280
<v Speaker 2>Okay, but should USC have been punished as harshly as

0:28:21.320 --> 0:28:24.399
<v Speaker 2>they were for the Reggie Bush situation in retrospect.

0:28:24.440 --> 0:28:28.359
<v Speaker 12>No, no, But that doesn't mean that there wasn't financial

0:28:28.400 --> 0:28:30.600
<v Speaker 12>reward for going to school there at a time when

0:28:30.640 --> 0:28:33.879
<v Speaker 12>that was not part of the rules. But no, the

0:28:34.560 --> 0:28:37.639
<v Speaker 12>penalty was oversized. And that's Look, the history of the

0:28:37.760 --> 0:28:44.840
<v Speaker 12>NCAA hey has been incredibly inefficient punishment punctuated with overinforcement.

0:28:45.200 --> 0:28:47.760
<v Speaker 12>Basically every once in a while when they finally get somebody,

0:28:47.840 --> 0:28:50.440
<v Speaker 12>they overdo it. And I think us he's probably the

0:28:50.440 --> 0:28:51.520
<v Speaker 12>biggest example of that.

0:28:51.600 --> 0:28:54.920
<v Speaker 2>Well, look back to Jim Tressel. Yeah, that was over

0:28:55.000 --> 0:28:59.000
<v Speaker 2>tattoos and players, you know, giving trading in their equipment

0:28:59.080 --> 0:29:02.160
<v Speaker 2>to get you know, like sure costume is.

0:29:02.160 --> 0:29:04.560
<v Speaker 12>To trust a light about it, and that's what That's what.

0:29:06.080 --> 0:29:07.040
<v Speaker 2>I always get you.

0:29:07.320 --> 0:29:10.520
<v Speaker 12>Yeah, the the economics of it, we are pretty laughable

0:29:10.560 --> 0:29:11.760
<v Speaker 12>by what we're looking at today.

0:29:12.240 --> 0:29:15.120
<v Speaker 2>The number one storyline in college basketball is what.

0:29:16.720 --> 0:29:20.160
<v Speaker 12>Uh to me? It is this unbelievable freshman class and

0:29:20.320 --> 0:29:23.080
<v Speaker 12>whether or not they can get over against some of

0:29:23.120 --> 0:29:27.600
<v Speaker 12>the more experienced teams in front of them like Michigan

0:29:27.760 --> 0:29:30.520
<v Speaker 12>and Arizona's got a really good freshman cope, But Michigan

0:29:30.560 --> 0:29:33.120
<v Speaker 12>has got this kind of juggernaut team that's not relying

0:29:33.200 --> 0:29:36.120
<v Speaker 12>on the young guys. But then Duke's got Boozer And

0:29:37.640 --> 0:29:40.920
<v Speaker 12>I mean, so so many different teams have great freshman players.

0:29:41.000 --> 0:29:46.040
<v Speaker 12>Kansas has Peterson. You know, there's like eight really good freshmen.

0:29:46.240 --> 0:29:49.320
<v Speaker 12>Can they Can they take a team to a national

0:29:49.400 --> 0:29:53.800
<v Speaker 12>championship in March? I in in April? I think Florida

0:29:53.960 --> 0:29:56.120
<v Speaker 12>look out for them. They're coming together at the right time.

0:29:56.160 --> 0:29:58.840
<v Speaker 12>And that is not a freshman dependent team either. So

0:29:59.320 --> 0:30:02.400
<v Speaker 12>can the veteran teams beat the freshman led star teams?

0:30:03.360 --> 0:30:07.560
<v Speaker 2>The Darren Peterson situation, what do you make of this?

0:30:07.720 --> 0:30:10.840
<v Speaker 2>That he might be the best player in college basketball?

0:30:11.320 --> 0:30:14.560
<v Speaker 2>But I would not be drafting him until I got

0:30:14.560 --> 0:30:18.160
<v Speaker 2>further explanation into do you really love basketball?

0:30:19.080 --> 0:30:21.000
<v Speaker 12>Yeah, that would be my point exactly. If I'm an

0:30:21.080 --> 0:30:27.200
<v Speaker 12>NBAGM Like, they're gonna be ten good freshmen coming out,

0:30:27.560 --> 0:30:30.600
<v Speaker 12>and do you want one who's gonna be like, Eh,

0:30:30.640 --> 0:30:34.200
<v Speaker 12>I'm not playing today, you know or tomorrow. Check back

0:30:34.240 --> 0:30:37.440
<v Speaker 12>on Thursday. We'll see you know. I'm gonna take myself

0:30:37.480 --> 0:30:40.760
<v Speaker 12>out of games that you're gonna make a massive investment

0:30:40.760 --> 0:30:43.040
<v Speaker 12>in somebody who hasn't proved what you said, does he

0:30:43.080 --> 0:30:44.840
<v Speaker 12>how much does he like basketball? How much does he

0:30:44.920 --> 0:30:46.880
<v Speaker 12>want to play? How much does he want to compete

0:30:46.920 --> 0:30:49.720
<v Speaker 12>when he's out there? Who he's really good? But I'd

0:30:49.760 --> 0:30:51.480
<v Speaker 12>be looking at these other guys and saying, Yeah, they're

0:30:51.520 --> 0:30:53.440
<v Speaker 12>playing forty minutes and they're playing every game, and I

0:30:53.480 --> 0:30:54.400
<v Speaker 12>kind of like that more.

0:30:55.280 --> 0:30:58.640
<v Speaker 2>When does tournament expansion start?

0:31:00.040 --> 0:31:02.960
<v Speaker 12>They're still pushing for it for twenty twenty seven. I

0:31:03.000 --> 0:31:05.320
<v Speaker 12>would expect it to probably happen then and they'll go

0:31:05.360 --> 0:31:08.360
<v Speaker 12>to seventy six and it'll be terrible. But you know,

0:31:08.440 --> 0:31:10.640
<v Speaker 12>that's what Charlie Baker wants, that's what a lot of

0:31:10.680 --> 0:31:13.080
<v Speaker 12>other people want. They're trying to, you know, dredge some

0:31:13.120 --> 0:31:16.479
<v Speaker 12>more money out of the broadcast deal for this, but

0:31:16.520 --> 0:31:19.440
<v Speaker 12>they also want to make everybody happy by getting more

0:31:19.480 --> 0:31:21.920
<v Speaker 12>teams in the tournament. I think it's a terrible development.

0:31:22.000 --> 0:31:24.120
<v Speaker 12>I don't think it helps the tournament in any way.

0:31:24.720 --> 0:31:27.280
<v Speaker 12>But I think it's coming, whether it's twenty seven or beyond.

0:31:27.760 --> 0:31:29.680
<v Speaker 12>There's been a lot of backlash that's pushed it back.

0:31:29.720 --> 0:31:32.000
<v Speaker 12>I thought it could be this year, and now it's

0:31:32.040 --> 0:31:35.600
<v Speaker 12>a maybe probably for next year. So the backlash is

0:31:35.600 --> 0:31:37.400
<v Speaker 12>at least forestalled things a bit.

0:31:37.640 --> 0:31:41.600
<v Speaker 2>Okay, but what happens first college basketball expansion or college

0:31:41.600 --> 0:31:43.200
<v Speaker 2>football playoff expansion?

0:31:44.120 --> 0:31:47.960
<v Speaker 12>Oh, college football playoff expansion is certainly coming sixteen, hopefully

0:31:48.080 --> 0:31:53.959
<v Speaker 12>enough this ridiculous twenty four. They may be, may coincide,

0:31:54.040 --> 0:31:56.240
<v Speaker 12>may both be in twenty twenty seven. You know, that

0:31:56.320 --> 0:31:59.800
<v Speaker 12>might be what we're looking at here. But you know,

0:31:59.880 --> 0:32:02.480
<v Speaker 12>I like twelve. I think twelve is great and has

0:32:02.480 --> 0:32:05.120
<v Speaker 12>been really good from the last two years. Happy to

0:32:05.120 --> 0:32:09.800
<v Speaker 12>see it again in twenty twenty six. But they want sixteen.

0:32:10.080 --> 0:32:12.440
<v Speaker 12>And if it's a choice between sixteen or twenty four,

0:32:12.680 --> 0:32:13.800
<v Speaker 12>I'll run to sixteen.

0:32:14.520 --> 0:32:17.800
<v Speaker 2>It's about money, pat, I mean, all these years it

0:32:17.920 --> 0:32:20.600
<v Speaker 2>was one versus two, and then we went to four

0:32:21.200 --> 0:32:24.440
<v Speaker 2>and I was happy at four. Yeah, you know, we

0:32:24.520 --> 0:32:27.400
<v Speaker 2>doubled the size of the playoffs. Now you go to twelve.

0:32:27.920 --> 0:32:31.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm happy with twelve. But they're looking at all the

0:32:31.160 --> 0:32:35.280
<v Speaker 2>money here. That's college basketball, all of the money. That's

0:32:35.320 --> 0:32:39.480
<v Speaker 2>what it's all about. And it's not a question of if.

0:32:39.520 --> 0:32:42.480
<v Speaker 2>But when we have expansion. Now you know, we had

0:32:42.560 --> 0:32:46.040
<v Speaker 2>Jim Beaheim on who's he suggested ninety six teams in

0:32:46.120 --> 0:32:50.800
<v Speaker 2>the NC DOUBLEA Tournament. I mean, come on, every coach

0:32:50.840 --> 0:32:53.920
<v Speaker 2>would want expansion, do ensure they get into the postseason.

0:32:54.200 --> 0:32:56.640
<v Speaker 2>But after a while, I mean I grew up when

0:32:56.640 --> 0:32:59.440
<v Speaker 2>it was thirty two teams in the NC DOUBLEA Tournament

0:32:59.600 --> 0:33:01.560
<v Speaker 2>and seemed like a lot back then.

0:33:02.160 --> 0:33:04.360
<v Speaker 12>Yeah, and they expanded to forty it was like, whoa.

0:33:04.400 --> 0:33:06.080
<v Speaker 2>And then they went to forty eight. Whoa?

0:33:06.320 --> 0:33:07.560
<v Speaker 6>You know, I thought.

0:33:07.320 --> 0:33:10.600
<v Speaker 12>Sixty four was the absolute sweet spot, fantastic. You know,

0:33:10.640 --> 0:33:13.720
<v Speaker 12>they went there in nineteen eighty five, the seeding one

0:33:13.760 --> 0:33:16.600
<v Speaker 12>through sixteen, everybody played the same number of games. It

0:33:16.680 --> 0:33:18.720
<v Speaker 12>was perfect. Then they started junking it up more, and

0:33:18.720 --> 0:33:21.360
<v Speaker 12>they're going to continue to junk it up more. Never

0:33:21.440 --> 0:33:24.160
<v Speaker 12>listen to the coaches. Don't look that's a great coach.

0:33:24.200 --> 0:33:26.480
<v Speaker 12>It doesn't mean he knows what's good for college basketball,

0:33:26.760 --> 0:33:30.720
<v Speaker 12>what's good for coaches? They all only think of themselves.

0:33:31.080 --> 0:33:33.960
<v Speaker 12>They never think of anything outside of this is my

0:33:34.120 --> 0:33:36.920
<v Speaker 12>worldview right here, these binoculars, these blinders.

0:33:37.400 --> 0:33:39.959
<v Speaker 2>I love it. You're fired up, already ready to go.

0:33:40.200 --> 0:33:43.440
<v Speaker 2>I love it so on March. Thank you, Pat, Good

0:33:43.480 --> 0:33:45.720
<v Speaker 2>to talk to you all right, you too, man, Pat

0:33:45.760 --> 0:33:49.360
<v Speaker 2>forty Sports Illustrated senior writer back from the Olympics, covers

0:33:49.400 --> 0:33:54.320
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0:34:08.840 --> 0:34:10.719
<v Speaker 2>I mentioned a couple of things in the first hour

0:34:10.719 --> 0:34:14.200
<v Speaker 2>of the program, the sound of the Rims at Texas

0:34:14.200 --> 0:34:17.040
<v Speaker 2>Tech with the game against Cincinnati last night, and I

0:34:17.080 --> 0:34:21.520
<v Speaker 2>also brought up Connor Griffin. So yesterday I see, you know,

0:34:21.719 --> 0:34:24.560
<v Speaker 2>spring training baseball. You're kind of flipping around looking for

0:34:24.600 --> 0:34:28.160
<v Speaker 2>something to watch, and there's Connor Griffin, nineteen years of age,

0:34:28.239 --> 0:34:34.000
<v Speaker 2>hit two bombs. First teenager to make his debut on

0:34:34.239 --> 0:34:37.720
<v Speaker 2>opening day. Maybe he'll be able to do this since

0:34:38.440 --> 0:34:44.000
<v Speaker 2>Ken Griffy Junior in nineteen eighty nine. Steat of the day,

0:34:44.280 --> 0:34:47.960
<v Speaker 2>stat of the days, stead of the day, stat of

0:34:48.000 --> 0:34:52.040
<v Speaker 2>the day? Here comes? Here comes that? What stat of

0:34:52.120 --> 0:34:57.359
<v Speaker 2>the day. But Connor Griffin is a six to four

0:34:57.520 --> 0:35:00.360
<v Speaker 2>shortstop with the Pirates and trying to be I'm the

0:35:00.400 --> 0:35:04.400
<v Speaker 2>first teenager and to be on the opening day roster

0:35:04.520 --> 0:35:10.320
<v Speaker 2>since Junior did it for the Mariners in nineteen eighty nine. Okay,

0:35:11.480 --> 0:35:15.200
<v Speaker 2>it was good. It was fun to see yesterday. Granted

0:35:15.239 --> 0:35:17.480
<v Speaker 2>it's spring training. There are times when you'll watch spring

0:35:17.520 --> 0:35:21.200
<v Speaker 2>training and I've gone to spring training probably for thirty

0:35:21.239 --> 0:35:24.200
<v Speaker 2>five to forty years, and you'll see somebody and you go, man,

0:35:24.320 --> 0:35:26.760
<v Speaker 2>that guy's really good. And then all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't hear from the guy, and he's back in

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<v Speaker 2>the minor leagues.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, Paulie Ken Griffie's debut in eighty nine. He was

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen years, one hundred and thirty three days old. He

0:35:35.960 --> 0:35:37.520
<v Speaker 3>had three at bats. He did get a hit. In

0:35:37.640 --> 0:35:40.960
<v Speaker 3>his rookie year, he hit two sixty four with sixteen

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<v Speaker 3>homers sixty one ribies.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, didn't the Orioles. Orioles had a prospect. His dad

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<v Speaker 2>played in the major leagues Jackson Holliday. Yes, but he

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't on the regular He wasn't on the opening day roster,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think he was a teenager. He really struggled

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<v Speaker 2>when he came up. He wasn't ready. Then they sent

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<v Speaker 2>him back down.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh, I just wanted I just wanted to hear one

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<v Speaker 6>more time.

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<v Speaker 2>Connor Griffin. Yeah, Andrew in Washington, Hi Andrew, thanks for holding.

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<v Speaker 4>Good morning, Dan Dennet, thanks for taking my call.

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<v Speaker 14>Just a couple of comments on a few podcasts that

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<v Speaker 14>have come out, and then also, I don't know a

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<v Speaker 14>bad sound in sports, but hey, if you get a chance,

0:36:26.480 --> 0:36:28.800
<v Speaker 14>any of our listeners get a chance to any of

0:36:28.840 --> 0:36:30.560
<v Speaker 14>your listeners get a chance to listen to a twelve

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<v Speaker 14>fifteen podcast before the Break with Christen's Syracuse on it.

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<v Speaker 4>That was great. He's a number one fan, such a

0:36:36.200 --> 0:36:39.880
<v Speaker 4>nice guy. Also the podcast, Todd, great job. I hope

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<v Speaker 4>that that saving a bite Burger girl does not slip

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<v Speaker 4>into your d M, because I don't know what you

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<v Speaker 4>would do after twenty three years of marriage, still happily married,

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<v Speaker 4>as you reminded us three.

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<v Speaker 2>Or four times on the podcast.

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<v Speaker 4>Also, we're sound in sports right now. Lebron James missing

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<v Speaker 4>a game winning shot again, I mean Orlando Magic team.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll tell you they had more, just want they had

0:37:00.280 --> 0:37:03.839
<v Speaker 4>two offensive rebounds before window Carter put in the game

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<v Speaker 4>winning shot.

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<v Speaker 2>But you also had Luca who passed up the shot.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't know, it's not this isn't going as

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<v Speaker 2>scripted there. Thanks for the phone call. Andrew. Yeah, you're watching,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know everybody's trying to figure out what everybody's doing.

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<v Speaker 2>And when you have a ball dominant player, it's really

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<v Speaker 2>tough to play with a player like that because you

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<v Speaker 2>want to let them do what they do. But then

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<v Speaker 2>you got to be ready when they're going to pass

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<v Speaker 2>you the ball. And Luca can get his shot anywhere.

0:37:34.960 --> 0:37:38.680
<v Speaker 2>And now you've got Austin Reeves who's a legitimate star,

0:37:39.280 --> 0:37:42.520
<v Speaker 2>and then you got Lebron who is still holding onto

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<v Speaker 2>his stardom as maybe a number one option even though

0:37:45.960 --> 0:37:48.600
<v Speaker 2>he's probably the third option on that team. But it

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<v Speaker 2>comes down to defense. So, like I say, with any

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<v Speaker 2>of these sports, what do you do in crunch time?

0:37:57.040 --> 0:37:59.280
<v Speaker 2>You got to play defense. You got to get a stop.

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<v Speaker 2>And this Laker team, there'll be a curiosity in the postseason,

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<v Speaker 2>but they won't be a threat. I just can't see

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<v Speaker 2>it happening. And I touched on this with Reggie Miller

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<v Speaker 2>about Luca. He complains constantly, and it's kind of sad

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<v Speaker 2>to see because you know, what are you twenty six

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<v Speaker 2>years of age? You know older guys will complain. The

0:38:23.800 --> 0:38:27.200
<v Speaker 2>younger guys usually don't, but you know, Luca's elevated into

0:38:27.200 --> 0:38:30.759
<v Speaker 2>a top five player. It's just after a while it's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of embarrassing for that player that not every call

0:38:35.640 --> 0:38:38.799
<v Speaker 2>is going to go your way, and you get that

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<v Speaker 2>feeling of he's like almost every time something goes wrong,

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<v Speaker 2>it feels like somebody else is to blame. Yes, Marvin,

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<v Speaker 2>and the.

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<v Speaker 8>Big issue is speaking of lack of defense. Luca's over

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<v Speaker 8>there arguing with the ress and the other team is

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<v Speaker 8>already on the offensive end. No, you're right, and now

0:38:57.440 --> 0:38:59.319
<v Speaker 8>you know you're at a disadvantage. It's four and five

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<v Speaker 8>now because you're sitting there arguing with the ref and

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<v Speaker 8>it's the NBA open shots.

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<v Speaker 6>That's practice for these guys.

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<v Speaker 2>But you gotta have at least some effort. Just give

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<v Speaker 2>me a little effort. You're not a lockdown defender, but

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<v Speaker 2>you can't be an embarrassment on the defensive end.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, Paulie, if you were a star player, would you

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<v Speaker 3>totally go the other way and ease off officials and

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<v Speaker 3>pick your spots?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Reggie Miller told us, and he said, look, I

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<v Speaker 2>was a whiner, a crier, and it doesn't help. I

0:39:30.239 --> 0:39:35.000
<v Speaker 2>can't imagine it helping you if you're out there constantly complaining.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know these officials are going to go shut

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<v Speaker 2>up like they're human too, Like you're complaining that they're

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<v Speaker 2>not doing their job well. And I can't imagine that

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<v Speaker 2>official is going to go, Man, all right, I want

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<v Speaker 2>Lebron to like me or Luca to like me.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, seen, I think there's a reason that the saying exists.

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<v Speaker 7>The squeaky wheel gets the oil, right, isn't that the grease,

0:39:59.520 --> 0:40:01.399
<v Speaker 7>the grease whatever, same thing.

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<v Speaker 2>You get the point.

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<v Speaker 7>I think there's a reason for that, and I think

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<v Speaker 7>it's why you see so many players being demonstrative.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm going by what Reggie said. He said it

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<v Speaker 2>didn't help him and he would complain and whine all

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<v Speaker 2>the time. But I mean, Luca, it's it is. I'm

0:40:18.400 --> 0:40:23.959
<v Speaker 2>surprised when he doesn't complain. That's how often it happens. Yes, Marv.

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<v Speaker 8>And it's something as small as he makes a shot

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<v Speaker 8>and his arms are in the air. Yeah, man, just

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<v Speaker 8>get back on defense.

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<v Speaker 2>I know he wants to plead his case while the

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<v Speaker 2>other team is going down on a you know, five

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<v Speaker 2>on four.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, Hub, And if the whining did help, then you're

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<v Speaker 6>like being an enagbler.

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<v Speaker 5>Now you're thinking like, oh, if you start giving him

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<v Speaker 5>calls because he's whining, then you're just encouraging it even more.

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<v Speaker 6>The more I whine, looks like they're gonna give me

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<v Speaker 6>a couple more.

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<v Speaker 2>Calls here now, Okay. Growing up in the Bird and

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<v Speaker 2>Magic and Larry and Jordan Eira, those guys complained a

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<v Speaker 2>lot and then it felt like they got calls. So

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<v Speaker 2>maybe it's a generation watching previous generation going well, that's

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<v Speaker 2>what you do. You just complain, I'll get those calls.

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<v Speaker 2>Final Hour on the way, we'll talk about the combine

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<v Speaker 2>and the pressing questions that these gms are facing right

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<v Speaker 2>now in the month of February. Final Hour, right after

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<v Speaker 2>this Dan and the dan Nette dan Patrick's show,