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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio Hour two.

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Speaker 2: On this Wednesday, Dan and the Danets. Dan Patrick Show

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Speaker 2: got off to a different, strange, maybe curious start to

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Speaker 2: the show because I turned off a basketball game last

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Speaker 2: night Texas Tech and Cincinnati only because of the sound,

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Speaker 2: the sound of the rim every time these players missed

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Speaker 2: a shot, I couldn't take it. So then I'm watching

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Speaker 2: Duke Duke against Notre Dame and I'm thinking, uh, what

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Speaker 2: happened here? I mean at Notre Dame. Notre Dame hasn't

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Speaker 2: lost a game that badly at home. I got to

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Speaker 2: get this straight. I think it's eighteen ninety eight. Eighteen, yeah,

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Speaker 2: eighteen ninety eight. Notre Dame lost by forty four points,

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Speaker 2: worst home loss since they lost to Chicago First Regiment

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Speaker 2: sixty four to eight. That was in eighteen ninety eight.

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Speaker 2: They had a good team back then. Chat of the

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Speaker 2: Day brought to you by Penane America, the official trading

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Speaker 2: cards of the program. The second Regiment was really good

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Speaker 2: as well for that Chicago team. Uh So we did

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Speaker 2: reach out to Texas Tech as you would expect the

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Speaker 2: IT team, because I needed, you know, some kind of

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Speaker 2: investigation into the sound of the rim there. If I

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Speaker 2: was a big time recruit as much as Texas Tech

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Speaker 2: loves their basketball and that environment's great, I wouldn't go

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Speaker 2: there because of the sound of the rim.

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Speaker 3: And you may change your mind after you hear the

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Speaker 3: report Texas Tech Basketball. The Deputy ad Jonathan Butro sent

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Speaker 3: down staffers. They checked both rims and both are functioning properly.

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Speaker 3: They went back and listened to the broadcast and they

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Speaker 3: think it's Mike implication amplification and it was not anything

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Speaker 3: wrong with the rims.

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Speaker 2: Here we go.

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Speaker 3: He added that he will ask, Yeah, blame the networks, classics.

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Speaker 2: Not my fault, blame the TV.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 3: He also said he's going to ask the shooters on

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Speaker 3: the team to stop missing.

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Speaker 2: You. I couldn't take it. They didn't miss that many shots.

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Speaker 2: They scored any points. Well, Cincinnati missed shots. Yeah, now

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Speaker 2: that was the problem. I'm just going I can't take it.

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Speaker 2: Like I can accept the little think in you know,

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Speaker 2: college World Series, but this being a you know shooter,

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Speaker 2: I had a problem with it. And I'm going on,

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Speaker 2: let me let me check on the Duke game and

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Speaker 2: I go there is no game there. I was waiting

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Speaker 2: for Hannah Hidalgo to come out on the floor for

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Speaker 2: Notre Dame to help him out. Yes, Todd, can you

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Speaker 2: watch a.

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Speaker 5: Basketball game with no audio? Or was it because you said,

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Speaker 5: like you kind of you rather stop watching it all

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Speaker 5: together than to maybe just.

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Speaker 2: Well, trying to familiarize myself with these teams. You know,

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati just had a big win against Kansas. Like I'm

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Speaker 2: trying to learn. You know, who's my sleeper? You know

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Speaker 2: that eight nine game. You know I'm gonna pick? Who

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Speaker 2: am I picking? Twelve five? You gotta get ready?

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Speaker 6: How you do a crash course like that in these

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Speaker 6: last week.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying, Yes, I'm trying. Yeah, I should just call

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Speaker 2: up Jay Billis and say, you know, just download me

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Speaker 2: on what's going on.

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Speaker 6: We'll pick three ones at a two.

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Speaker 2: Eight seven seven three DP show. More phone calls coming up.

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Speaker 2: We're being inundated with annoying sounds in sports Tyler sitting by,

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Speaker 2: he'll take your phone calls. We'll talk to Pat Forty,

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Speaker 2: our good budding from Sports Illustrated and he was over

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Speaker 2: in Italy covering the Olympics. We'll talk to him about

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Speaker 2: that experience here in a little bit. We'll also bring

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Speaker 2: back some of the sounds some of the interviews yesterday

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Speaker 2: with the gms at the Combine, which I always find

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Speaker 2: fun and fascinating because there's really pressing questions that they

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Speaker 2: need to answer, and the gms normally don't get in

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Speaker 2: front of the media, so they're not as media as savvy,

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Speaker 2: and I'm always looking for maybe just a little crack

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Speaker 2: in the window there. Hey, wait a minute, what's he

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Speaker 2: really saying here about Kyler Murray or two a tongue

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Speaker 2: of ioloa or Aaron Rodgers. So we'll have some of

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Speaker 2: whole question from the first hour seat.

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Speaker 7: And and then hour two honors the uh more annoying sound

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Speaker 7: in sports a tenny rim in basketball or the metal

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Speaker 7: bat in baseball. It's gotten back and forth. It's been

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Speaker 2: Very very close, full quest, All right, super close.

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Speaker 7: Then we have another one here from Todd would you

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Speaker 7: prefer having an automated system that calls balls and strikes

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Speaker 7: on every MLB pitch.

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Speaker 6: Yes or no, I.

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Speaker 2: Would lean towards yes. I think you could make this

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Speaker 2: not theatrical, but you could make this part of the

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Speaker 2: broadcast where you're looking up at the jumbo tron and

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Speaker 2: you're going to be able to see what is a

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Speaker 2: ball and a strike. You don't need the umpire to

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Speaker 2: be able to tell if it's a ball or strike

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Speaker 2: if the batter doesn't swing. And I think we're getting

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Speaker 2: closer to this because what we're finding out is, you know,

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Speaker 2: the automatic balls and strikes you know nobody has. You know,

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Speaker 2: there's no human element to that of you know, that

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Speaker 2: guy is a Hall of Famer, I'm going to give

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Speaker 2: him that pitch, or that pitcher he's a Hall of Famer,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to give him that pitch. You don't have that.

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Speaker 2: It's just here the parameters for a strike zone. Now,

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Speaker 2: the TV coverage already gives you sort of a strike zone.

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Speaker 2: You get to see it. But once again, you have

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Speaker 2: to understand that camera is not right behind the pitcher,

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Speaker 2: so you don't get a true strike zone. You may

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Speaker 2: go both it's a strike, but in reality it might

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Speaker 2: not be. With the automatic the ABS system, I'm all

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Speaker 2: for it. Let's do it. Put it in place. Now

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Speaker 2: you still need everybody gets caught up with it's a robot.

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Speaker 2: It's not a robot. All it is is a system

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Speaker 2: just like tennis has. Tennis doesn't have any robots, but

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Speaker 2: they have the same parameters of ball in or out.

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Speaker 2: And if you have it, you have to have an

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Speaker 2: umpire there for fair and foul, you know, something on

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Speaker 2: the mound or you know if a batter chips catcher's glove,

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Speaker 2: you know, plays at the plate. You still have to

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Speaker 2: have an umpire there. Take it, take the balls and

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Speaker 2: strikes out of this and make it a production where

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Speaker 2: you put it up on the Jumbo tron and everybody

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Speaker 2: gets to follow along with it. And I think you

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Speaker 2: would be surprised. There was a there were five consecutive

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Speaker 2: calls in a game yesterday where the umpire missed all

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Speaker 2: five in a row. Because they show what the strike

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Speaker 2: then he got the six to one right and then

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Speaker 2: the crowd cheered. So you can have what you think

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Speaker 2: is a strike zone. I don't want your strike zone.

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Speaker 2: I want our strike zone. Everybody's strike zone. Now, it

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Speaker 2: does change if Altuve or Aaron Judge is up, you

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Speaker 2: have to adjust. But they're able to do this, and

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Speaker 2: they're doing it in the minor leagues, they're doing it

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Speaker 2: in spring training. I'm okay with it. Get the call right.

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Speaker 2: If I can get the call correct, and these umpires

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Speaker 2: do an amazing job because I'm looking at you know,

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Speaker 2: maybe they get ninety six percent of the calls right.

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Speaker 2: That's really at a high level. But if you can

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Speaker 2: get all of them right, balls and strikes, why wouldn't

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Speaker 2: you do that? And I go back to all of

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Speaker 2: the gambling money. You got to get these things right. Now.

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Speaker 2: You still have the human element play at the plate

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Speaker 2: with the Blue Jays and the Dodgers, you still have

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Speaker 2: to have the home plate umpires. So it's not a robot,

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Speaker 2: it's just overhead big brother watching. Yeah, Paul.

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Speaker 3: So with this new ABS challenge, we got this from

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Speaker 3: and I'll be Each team starts the game with two challenges.

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Speaker 3: When the batter wants to challenge it, he taps his

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Speaker 3: helmet and a challenge it. So if he gets it wrong,

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Speaker 3: they're down to one challenge. If he gets it wrong again,

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Speaker 3: they're down to zero. But at BT you talked about it.

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Speaker 3: If you get it right when you challenge, you keep

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Speaker 3: your two challenges, and you keep going forward with two challenges.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I like it. Once again, if we have the technology,

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Speaker 2: use the technology, and baseball has the technology, but we

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Speaker 2: get once again, I said this yesterday. We we think

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Speaker 2: it's part of the charm of baseball that you know,

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Speaker 2: that guy has his own strike zonner. Hey, that guy

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Speaker 2: what out, but he called him out. You know, the

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Speaker 2: neighborhood play at Second Bay. Let's just get these calls right,

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Speaker 2: nothing wrong. You still have the human element of this.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if they'll get to and you could,

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Speaker 2: you know, have a reviewable play if there's a force

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Speaker 2: out and you think they missed it, or a tag up,

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Speaker 2: you know for a fly ball sack fly and you

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Speaker 2: can still review that. You can question that. But balls

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Speaker 2: and strikes, let's implement it.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean it's been tested in Triple A, you know, right,

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Speaker 7: So it's not sneaking up on anybody within baseball, and

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Speaker 7: they know exactly how well it works and how it

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Speaker 2: Pitch clockworked, right, nobody's complaining about that. There are a

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Speaker 2: lot of things that were introduced to Major League Baseball

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Speaker 2: the last couple of years, and I'm okay with ABS. No,

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Speaker 2: I just I think we the word robot was you

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Speaker 2: know that was introduced. I go, no, No, it's not robotic.

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Speaker 2: All it is is a camera is going to watch.

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Speaker 2: Just make sure that all of the ballparks have the

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Speaker 2: same technology, the same equipment. That's the only thing that

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Speaker 2: I would guard against, because there are times when you'll

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Speaker 2: watch an NFL game they don't have the same number

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Speaker 2: of cameras at a game that let's say it's the

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Speaker 2: Packers against the cow Boys, Well they're gonna have more

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Speaker 2: cameras there, or a playoff game. You just want to

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Speaker 2: make sure that each game is featuring the same kind

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Speaker 2: of equipment. Yes, Todd, So the technology.

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Speaker 5: Will will tell the umpire what to call. The umpire

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Speaker 5: will still be able to announce the balls and strikes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if he wants to go, they're gonna put it

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Speaker 2: up on the jumbo tron or they'll say it in

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Speaker 2: his ear, you know, be like strike ball, because because

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Speaker 2: you do that, great.

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Speaker 5: Ye hit cah, I was still gonna have like those

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Speaker 5: sound effects from the umpire, even though it's being told

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Speaker 5: by a computer deciding whether it's a bust paper.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you can do that if you want, because I

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Speaker 2: would you kind of miss that. I like when you

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Speaker 2: do that. Yeah, but you miss the grown man in

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Speaker 2: a baseball uniform going out to home plate and kicking

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Speaker 2: dirt on an umpire. Yes.

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Speaker 5: I love what a manager loses their mind. Then they

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Speaker 5: just start throwing bats and balls from the dugout and

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Speaker 5: they get right in the face and cursing out the

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Speaker 5: ump and they got to be held back, and another

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Speaker 5: ump is like trying to calm him down.

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Speaker 6: I just think that's great. I'd love it.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't happen anymore.

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Speaker 6: It's very sad that it doesn't.

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Speaker 2: No, No, it's not sad. First of all, you got

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Speaker 2: to a grown man in a baseball uniform. That's always weird.

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Speaker 3: Yes, paul I looked back at the rules for this

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Speaker 3: It's in the language. The manager and the other players

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Speaker 9: Move on?

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Speaker 2: Move on soon, too soon, move on?

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Speaker 7: Andy Reid should be doing, oh, you know, calling the

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Speaker 8: oh you know with the finger. Oh, replay that replay

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Speaker 2: Uh JJ in Florida, Hi JJ. Woods on your mind, Dan, good.

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Speaker 1: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: More I'll on the hold.

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Speaker 10: I thought of another one, and it's sort of if

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Speaker 2: I'm okay with that. That's exciting. I mean, I don't

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Speaker 5: Yes, Tom, what's gonna happen like in the playoffs or

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Speaker 2: I know, I know it could be. Oh hold on,

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Speaker 2: he tapped his head.

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Speaker 6: You can't get that moment back because he tapped his head.

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Speaker 6: It's over.

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Speaker 2: Just ruined the whole last picture of the last ball.

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Speaker 2: Didn't that happen?

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Speaker 3: In the Super Bowl twenty eight three comeback, Tom Brady

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Speaker 2: The video before. I don't think you scored a touchdown.

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Speaker 2: like Malcolm Butler should have been MVP. Don't get me started. Uh,

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Speaker 2: Steven in New York? Hi, Steven, Hey, how's it going, Dan?

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Speaker 2: Good Bude.

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Speaker 9: Best sound in sports is during COVID MMA like UFC.

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Speaker 2: Where you're hearing what everything.

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Speaker 9: Just yeah, pretty much everything just to contact from the cists,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know when you hear a punch, I get

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Speaker 2: how you survive this? H Do you think is that

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Speaker 7: Like to be able to survive hits like that and

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Speaker 9: Oh?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I've never been punched like that, Yes, Todd,

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Speaker 5: A De la Hoya fight many years ago in La

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Speaker 6: It's very difficult to.

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Speaker 2: Look at it.

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Speaker 2: One of the Paul brothers got his jaw broken, and

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure he got paid a ton of money. Who's

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Speaker 2: well dropped them. Man oh man. That one was where

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Speaker 2: boxing celebrity or personality, here you go. Just make sure that,

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Speaker 2: I mean, Tyson would have done that if he was

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Speaker 2: saying I wish Mike would have been able to swing away. Damn.

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Speaker 6: I did the best they could.

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Speaker 2: Then, come on, thank you, Todd. We'll take a break.

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Speaker 2: We are. We stumbled upon this. We're still waiting for

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Speaker 2: Texas Tech to come clean on these basketball rims that

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Speaker 2: He does it all cover his college basketball, college football,

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Speaker 2: and the Olympics. Pat forty Sports Illustrated senior writer, have

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Speaker 2: you been to Texas Tech like this? Rim is bothering me?

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Speaker 12: It is the the one power conference school I haven't

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Speaker 12: been to Okay for some reason, I just can't make

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Speaker 12: myself rush to love it. Okay, But so I can't

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Speaker 2: Is there an arena where it's noticeable to you, uh,

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Speaker 9: Right?

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Speaker 2: It just sounds different. There's certain there's And March Madness

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Speaker 12: Yeah, well a lot of times too. March Madness like

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Speaker 12: they're bringing out new rims sometimes because you know that

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Speaker 2: You were in Italy in Milan for three weeks. So

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Speaker 12: The women's team and the women's game. I think hockey

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Speaker 12: the Gaudreau scene was incredible there in person, I ended

436
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Speaker 12: up standing behind Johnny Hockey's family during the anthem and

437
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Speaker 12: talking to his dad immediately afterward. And I mean, you

438
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Speaker 12: want to talk about an emotional scene, and just you know,

439
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:18,920
Speaker 12: it was hard for them to be there, really hard

440
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Speaker 12: for them to be there, but the pride that they had,

441
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Speaker 12: and then I think the way that they were honored

442
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Speaker 12: by the team was immensely gratifying for them.

443
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Speaker 2: How surprising was it to actually see them there?

444
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Speaker 12: I was surprised, Like I you know, again, I don't

445
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Speaker 12: know whether if I were in that situation, it would

446
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Speaker 12: have the wherewithal to be there for that. But they're

447
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Speaker 12: a hockey family. I mean, Guy Gudreau, the dad was

448
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,960
Speaker 12: a player, was a coach. They you know, hockey is

449
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 12: in their blood and so they were certainly going to

450
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:52,159
Speaker 12: be watching the games anyway. And I think, you know,

451
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Speaker 12: the the poll or the investment that the invitation that

452
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Speaker 12: was offered for them to be part of it and

453
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Speaker 12: in such a meaningful way, I think really sold him

454
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Speaker 12: on let's let's go ahead and do it. And then

455
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 12: to have it turn out that way, I mean, you know,

456
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 12: for American Americans to be pretty badly outplayed for a

457
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 12: lot of that game and still find a way to win,

458
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Speaker 12: and then to honor him who You're right, that is theatrical.

459
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Speaker 2: Pat forty Sports Illustrated senior writer and his podcast others

460
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Speaker 2: receiving votes. I was curious about some of the talent

461
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 2: at the combine. You cover college football, and best player

462
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Speaker 2: you saw this year at any position was who.

463
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Speaker 12: Maybe Jeremiah Love in terms of like I think translation

464
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 12: to NFL boy, I look at him and I think

465
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Speaker 12: that he I'd be really shocked if he missed. I

466
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,439
Speaker 12: think Fernando Mendoz is awesome. I voted for him to

467
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 12: win the Heisman. He's probably gonna be the first pick.

468
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Speaker 12: But quarterback going into the Raiders in that situation, you know,

469
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Speaker 12: best of luck to you. Ruben Bain from Miami is

470
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Speaker 12: another guy who I think is close to can't miss,

471
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 12: just incredible motor, violence, instinct, everything, and at a position

472
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,120
Speaker 12: where there's always a premium on talent for rushing the passer.

473
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Speaker 2: Ty Simpson, you know, I got to see him a

474
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Speaker 2: couple of times, like a full game, and I was

475
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Speaker 2: impressed with him. But then at the end of the year,

476
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,399
Speaker 2: you know, he fell off, the team fell off, he

477
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:27,679
Speaker 2: got hurt. But it still feels like you know, supply

478
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 2: and demand. There's one it feels like surefire quarterback, and

479
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 2: then there's a couple that I don't know. I don't Yeah,

480
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,439
Speaker 2: and that brings me to somebody is going to jump

481
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Speaker 2: in the first round probably and draft him, and in

482
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Speaker 2: any other draft he's probably not a first round pick.

483
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Speaker 9: Right.

484
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Speaker 12: There's a very low supply of good quarterbacks this year,

485
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Speaker 12: and so he becomes more valuable, and you know, I agree, Look,

486
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,439
Speaker 12: there are times I thought he played exceptionally well. He

487
00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 12: would have great games where he would have great stretches

488
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,159
Speaker 12: of but then by the end of the season he

489
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,399
Speaker 12: was not very effective. It looked like he lost a

490
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Speaker 12: lot of his confidence. You know, against Indiana he looked

491
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 12: completely perplexed, confused, overwhelmed, and then he ended up getting hurt,

492
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Speaker 12: you know.

493
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Speaker 2: Quarterback.

494
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Speaker 12: To me, it's such a learning positions. You know, the

495
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 12: very few guys just come in and are ready to

496
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 12: go right away. And so I think you look at

497
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 12: ty Simpson and think, yeah, he can get there, but

498
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 12: are you gonna thrust him into a bad position early

499
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,639
Speaker 12: and risk you know, fracturing his confidence even further than

500
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Speaker 12: it seemed like it happened at Alabama. I don't know,

501
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 12: you know, that's one of those things. That's why they

502
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 12: pay gms to kind of do that calculus of how

503
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,360
Speaker 12: soon do we need somebody who's probably not ready.

504
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Speaker 2: I don't know if it's an aberration. I don't know

505
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 2: if it's just a stretch here, but it suddenly feels

506
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 2: like college football runs through the Big Ten and not

507
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 2: the SEC. If you're the SEC, you don't have tech money,

508
00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 2: some have oil money. But how do you counter the

509
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:02,159
Speaker 2: Big Ten moving forward?

510
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 12: It's a great question because there really is been. There

511
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 12: has been an undeniable shift, right. They've won three different

512
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 12: three straight national champions who with three different teams the

513
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,719
Speaker 12: kind of thing the SEC used to do. The SEC

514
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 12: hasn't had a team in the championship game the last

515
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Speaker 12: three years. And yes, the pockets tend to be deeper

516
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 12: with alumni bases at those huge, relatively academically prestigious Midwestern universities, Eastern,

517
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,120
Speaker 12: you know some to the West too, they're all over

518
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,399
Speaker 12: the place now with the Big ten. I think what

519
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 12: you have to do is get back to proof of

520
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 12: concept and say we will pay you enough so that

521
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 12: you're getting you're getting a good college living, but we're

522
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 12: gonna get you to the NFL where you're gonna make

523
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Speaker 12: a great college living.

524
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Speaker 2: You've got to be able.

525
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Speaker 12: To show we're gonna put guys in the first round

526
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Speaker 12: and we're gonna get you those contracts, and you're gonna

527
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 12: be rich regardless of You're gonna be kind of rich

528
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,120
Speaker 12: in college, and then you're gonna be filthy rich afterwards

529
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Speaker 12: because you've played at Georgia or you've played at Alabama,

530
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Speaker 12: or you played at Texas.

531
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Speaker 2: But is as simple as some have suggested that hey,

532
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 2: you paid players. Now everybody gets paid, therefore you don't

533
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 2: have that advantage.

534
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Speaker 12: No, no, no, no, that you know, the oversimplifications of

535
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 12: all these things are kind of humorous, you know. I mean,

536
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 12: there has been a shift, but that doesn't mean nobody

537
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 12: else was cheating.

538
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 13: I'm relatively aware of what was going on at various

539
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:29,119
Speaker 13: different schools, NCAA investigations, what the parking lots looked like

540
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 13: in a lot of those football powers that weren't in

541
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Speaker 13: the SEC.

542
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 12: Come on, now, it's not that simple to would degree. Yeah,

543
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 12: but it's not the factor.

544
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 2: Okay, you not to name the school, but is there

545
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 2: one you know that maybe was egregious in what they

546
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 2: were doing? He got a story.

547
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Speaker 12: I mean, I think there are plenty of them in

548
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 12: the state of Texas, none of which used to be

549
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 12: in the SEC until recently. The West Coast certainly. I mean, look,

550
00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 12: USC got hit pretty hard. Miami had some spectacular scandals.

551
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 12: Everybody remembers Devin Shapiro there. Clemson had some stuff going

552
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 12: on back in the day. So you know, it's happened.

553
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 12: It's been around at various places. So I'm not here

554
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 12: to say that everybody else was clutching their pearls pristinely

555
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 12: while the SEC was wheeling and dealing.

556
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 2: Okay, but should USC have been punished as harshly as

557
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 2: they were for the Reggie Bush situation in retrospect.

558
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 12: No, no, But that doesn't mean that there wasn't financial

559
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 12: reward for going to school there at a time when

560
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 12: that was not part of the rules. But no, the

561
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,639
Speaker 12: penalty was oversized. And that's Look, the history of the

562
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 12: NCAA hey has been incredibly inefficient punishment punctuated with overinforcement.

563
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 12: Basically every once in a while when they finally get somebody,

564
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 12: they overdo it. And I think us he's probably the

565
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 12: biggest example of that.

566
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Speaker 2: Well, look back to Jim Tressel. Yeah, that was over

567
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 2: tattoos and players, you know, giving trading in their equipment

568
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 2: to get you know, like sure costume is.

569
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Speaker 12: To trust a light about it, and that's what That's what.

570
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 2: I always get you.

571
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 12: Yeah, the the economics of it, we are pretty laughable

572
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 12: by what we're looking at today.

573
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 2: The number one storyline in college basketball is what.

574
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Speaker 12: Uh to me? It is this unbelievable freshman class and

575
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 12: whether or not they can get over against some of

576
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Speaker 12: the more experienced teams in front of them like Michigan

577
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 12: and Arizona's got a really good freshman cope, But Michigan

578
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 12: has got this kind of juggernaut team that's not relying

579
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 12: on the young guys. But then Duke's got Boozer And

580
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 12: I mean, so so many different teams have great freshman players.

581
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 12: Kansas has Peterson. You know, there's like eight really good freshmen.

582
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Speaker 12: Can they Can they take a team to a national

583
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 12: championship in March? I in in April? I think Florida

584
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 12: look out for them. They're coming together at the right time.

585
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 12: And that is not a freshman dependent team either. So

586
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 12: can the veteran teams beat the freshman led star teams?

587
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 2: The Darren Peterson situation, what do you make of this?

588
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 2: That he might be the best player in college basketball?

589
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 2: But I would not be drafting him until I got

590
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 2: further explanation into do you really love basketball?

591
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Speaker 12: Yeah, that would be my point exactly. If I'm an

592
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 12: NBAGM Like, they're gonna be ten good freshmen coming out,

593
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 12: and do you want one who's gonna be like, Eh,

594
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 12: I'm not playing today, you know or tomorrow. Check back

595
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 12: on Thursday. We'll see you know. I'm gonna take myself

596
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 12: out of games that you're gonna make a massive investment

597
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 12: in somebody who hasn't proved what you said, does he

598
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 12: how much does he like basketball? How much does he

599
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 12: want to play? How much does he want to compete

600
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 12: when he's out there? Who he's really good? But I'd

601
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 12: be looking at these other guys and saying, Yeah, they're

602
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 12: playing forty minutes and they're playing every game, and I

603
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 12: kind of like that more.

604
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Speaker 2: When does tournament expansion start?

605
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 12: They're still pushing for it for twenty twenty seven. I

606
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 12: would expect it to probably happen then and they'll go

607
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 12: to seventy six and it'll be terrible. But you know,

608
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 12: that's what Charlie Baker wants, that's what a lot of

609
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 12: other people want. They're trying to, you know, dredge some

610
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,479
Speaker 12: more money out of the broadcast deal for this, but

611
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 12: they also want to make everybody happy by getting more

612
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 12: teams in the tournament. I think it's a terrible development.

613
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 12: I don't think it helps the tournament in any way.

614
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 12: But I think it's coming, whether it's twenty seven or beyond.

615
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 12: There's been a lot of backlash that's pushed it back.

616
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Speaker 12: I thought it could be this year, and now it's

617
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 12: a maybe probably for next year. So the backlash is

618
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 12: at least forestalled things a bit.

619
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Speaker 2: Okay, but what happens first college basketball expansion or college

620
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 2: football playoff expansion?

621
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Speaker 12: Oh, college football playoff expansion is certainly coming sixteen, hopefully

622
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:53,959
Speaker 12: enough this ridiculous twenty four. They may be, may coincide,

623
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 12: may both be in twenty twenty seven. You know, that

624
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 12: might be what we're looking at here. But you know,

625
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 12: I like twelve. I think twelve is great and has

626
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 12: been really good from the last two years. Happy to

627
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 12: see it again in twenty twenty six. But they want sixteen.

628
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 12: And if it's a choice between sixteen or twenty four,

629
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 12: I'll run to sixteen.

630
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 2: It's about money, pat, I mean, all these years it

631
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 2: was one versus two, and then we went to four

632
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 2: and I was happy at four. Yeah, you know, we

633
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 2: doubled the size of the playoffs. Now you go to twelve.

634
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 2: I'm happy with twelve. But they're looking at all the

635
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 2: money here. That's college basketball, all of the money. That's

636
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 2: what it's all about. And it's not a question of if.

637
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 2: But when we have expansion. Now you know, we had

638
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 2: Jim Beaheim on who's he suggested ninety six teams in

639
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 2: the NC DOUBLEA Tournament. I mean, come on, every coach

640
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 2: would want expansion, do ensure they get into the postseason.

641
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 2: But after a while, I mean I grew up when

642
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 2: it was thirty two teams in the NC DOUBLEA Tournament

643
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 2: and seemed like a lot back then.

644
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 12: Yeah, and they expanded to forty it was like, whoa.

645
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 2: And then they went to forty eight. Whoa?

646
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 6: You know, I thought.

647
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 12: Sixty four was the absolute sweet spot, fantastic. You know,

648
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 12: they went there in nineteen eighty five, the seeding one

649
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 12: through sixteen, everybody played the same number of games. It

650
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 12: was perfect. Then they started junking it up more, and

651
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 12: they're going to continue to junk it up more. Never

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Speaker 12: listen to the coaches. Don't look that's a great coach.

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Speaker 12: It doesn't mean he knows what's good for college basketball,

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Speaker 12: what's good for coaches? They all only think of themselves.

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Speaker 12: They never think of anything outside of this is my

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Speaker 12: worldview right here, these binoculars, these blinders.

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Speaker 2: I love it. You're fired up, already ready to go.

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Speaker 2: I love it so on March. Thank you, Pat, Good

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Speaker 2: to talk to you all right, you too, man, Pat

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Speaker 2: forty Sports Illustrated senior writer back from the Olympics, covers

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Speaker 2: college football, college basketball, and his podcast called Others Receiving Books.

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Speaker 2: We'll take a break. Your phone calls coming up next.

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Speaker 2: I mentioned a couple of things in the first hour

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Speaker 2: of the program, the sound of the Rims at Texas

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Speaker 2: Tech with the game against Cincinnati last night, and I

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Speaker 2: also brought up Connor Griffin. So yesterday I see, you know,

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Speaker 2: spring training baseball. You're kind of flipping around looking for

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Speaker 2: something to watch, and there's Connor Griffin, nineteen years of age,

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Speaker 2: hit two bombs. First teenager to make his debut on

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Speaker 2: opening day. Maybe he'll be able to do this since

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Speaker 2: Ken Griffy Junior in nineteen eighty nine. Steat of the day,

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Speaker 2: stat of the days, stead of the day, stat of

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Speaker 2: the day? Here comes? Here comes that? What stat of

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Speaker 2: the day. But Connor Griffin is a six to four

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Speaker 2: shortstop with the Pirates and trying to be I'm the

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Speaker 2: first teenager and to be on the opening day roster

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Speaker 2: since Junior did it for the Mariners in nineteen eighty nine. Okay,

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Speaker 2: it was good. It was fun to see yesterday. Granted

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Speaker 2: it's spring training. There are times when you'll watch spring

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Speaker 2: training and I've gone to spring training probably for thirty

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Speaker 2: five to forty years, and you'll see somebody and you go, man,

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Speaker 2: that guy's really good. And then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 2: you don't hear from the guy, and he's back in

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Speaker 2: the minor leagues.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Paulie Ken Griffie's debut in eighty nine. He was

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Speaker 3: nineteen years, one hundred and thirty three days old. He

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Speaker 3: had three at bats. He did get a hit. In

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Speaker 3: his rookie year, he hit two sixty four with sixteen

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Speaker 3: homers sixty one ribies.

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Speaker 2: Okay, didn't the Orioles. Orioles had a prospect. His dad

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Speaker 2: played in the major leagues Jackson Holliday. Yes, but he

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Speaker 2: wasn't on the regular He wasn't on the opening day roster,

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Speaker 2: and I think he was a teenager. He really struggled

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Speaker 2: when he came up. He wasn't ready. Then they sent

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Speaker 2: him back down.

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Speaker 6: Oh, I just wanted I just wanted to hear one

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Speaker 6: more time.

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Speaker 2: Connor Griffin. Yeah, Andrew in Washington, Hi Andrew, thanks for holding.

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Speaker 4: Good morning, Dan Dennet, thanks for taking my call.

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Speaker 14: Just a couple of comments on a few podcasts that

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Speaker 14: have come out, and then also, I don't know a

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Speaker 14: bad sound in sports, but hey, if you get a chance,

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Speaker 14: any of our listeners get a chance to any of

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Speaker 14: your listeners get a chance to listen to a twelve

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Speaker 14: fifteen podcast before the Break with Christen's Syracuse on it.

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Speaker 4: That was great. He's a number one fan, such a

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Speaker 4: nice guy. Also the podcast, Todd, great job. I hope

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Speaker 4: that that saving a bite Burger girl does not slip

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Speaker 4: into your d M, because I don't know what you

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Speaker 4: would do after twenty three years of marriage, still happily married,

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Speaker 4: as you reminded us three.

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Speaker 2: Or four times on the podcast.

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Speaker 4: Also, we're sound in sports right now. Lebron James missing

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Speaker 4: a game winning shot again, I mean Orlando Magic team.

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you they had more, just want they had

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Speaker 4: two offensive rebounds before window Carter put in the game

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Speaker 4: winning shot.

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Speaker 2: But you also had Luca who passed up the shot.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know, it's not this isn't going as

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Speaker 2: scripted there. Thanks for the phone call. Andrew. Yeah, you're watching,

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Speaker 2: and you know everybody's trying to figure out what everybody's doing.

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Speaker 2: And when you have a ball dominant player, it's really

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Speaker 2: tough to play with a player like that because you

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Speaker 2: want to let them do what they do. But then

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Speaker 2: you got to be ready when they're going to pass

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Speaker 2: you the ball. And Luca can get his shot anywhere.

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Speaker 2: And now you've got Austin Reeves who's a legitimate star,

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Speaker 2: and then you got Lebron who is still holding onto

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Speaker 2: his stardom as maybe a number one option even though

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Speaker 2: he's probably the third option on that team. But it

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Speaker 2: comes down to defense. So, like I say, with any

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Speaker 2: of these sports, what do you do in crunch time?

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Speaker 2: You got to play defense. You got to get a stop.

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Speaker 2: And this Laker team, there'll be a curiosity in the postseason,

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Speaker 2: but they won't be a threat. I just can't see

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Speaker 2: it happening. And I touched on this with Reggie Miller

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Speaker 2: about Luca. He complains constantly, and it's kind of sad

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Speaker 2: to see because you know, what are you twenty six

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Speaker 2: years of age? You know older guys will complain. The

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Speaker 2: younger guys usually don't, but you know, Luca's elevated into

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Speaker 2: a top five player. It's just after a while it's

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Speaker 2: kind of embarrassing for that player that not every call

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Speaker 2: is going to go your way, and you get that

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Speaker 2: feeling of he's like almost every time something goes wrong,

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Speaker 2: it feels like somebody else is to blame. Yes, Marvin,

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Speaker 2: and the.

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Speaker 8: Big issue is speaking of lack of defense. Luca's over

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Speaker 8: there arguing with the ress and the other team is

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Speaker 8: already on the offensive end. No, you're right, and now

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Speaker 8: you know you're at a disadvantage. It's four and five

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Speaker 8: now because you're sitting there arguing with the ref and

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Speaker 8: it's the NBA open shots.

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Speaker 6: That's practice for these guys.

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Speaker 2: But you gotta have at least some effort. Just give

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Speaker 2: me a little effort. You're not a lockdown defender, but

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Speaker 2: you can't be an embarrassment on the defensive end.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Paulie, if you were a star player, would you

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Speaker 3: totally go the other way and ease off officials and

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Speaker 3: pick your spots?

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Speaker 2: Well, Reggie Miller told us, and he said, look, I

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Speaker 2: was a whiner, a crier, and it doesn't help. I

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Speaker 2: can't imagine it helping you if you're out there constantly complaining.

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Speaker 2: I don't know these officials are going to go shut

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Speaker 2: up like they're human too, Like you're complaining that they're

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Speaker 2: not doing their job well. And I can't imagine that

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Speaker 2: official is going to go, Man, all right, I want

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Speaker 2: Lebron to like me or Luca to like me.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, seen, I think there's a reason that the saying exists.

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Speaker 7: The squeaky wheel gets the oil, right, isn't that the grease,

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Speaker 7: the grease whatever, same thing.

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Speaker 2: You get the point.

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Speaker 7: I think there's a reason for that, and I think

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Speaker 7: it's why you see so many players being demonstrative.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm going by what Reggie said. He said it

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Speaker 2: didn't help him and he would complain and whine all

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Speaker 2: the time. But I mean, Luca, it's it is. I'm

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Speaker 2: surprised when he doesn't complain. That's how often it happens. Yes, Marv.

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Speaker 8: And it's something as small as he makes a shot

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Speaker 8: and his arms are in the air. Yeah, man, just

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Speaker 8: get back on defense.

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Speaker 2: I know he wants to plead his case while the

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Speaker 2: other team is going down on a you know, five

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Speaker 2: on four.

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Speaker 6: Yes, Hub, And if the whining did help, then you're

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Speaker 6: like being an enagbler.

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Speaker 5: Now you're thinking like, oh, if you start giving him

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Speaker 5: calls because he's whining, then you're just encouraging it even more.

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Speaker 6: The more I whine, looks like they're gonna give me

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Speaker 6: a couple more.

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Speaker 2: Calls here now, Okay. Growing up in the Bird and

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Speaker 2: Magic and Larry and Jordan Eira, those guys complained a

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Speaker 2: lot and then it felt like they got calls. So

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Speaker 2: maybe it's a generation watching previous generation going well, that's

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Speaker 2: what you do. You just complain, I'll get those calls.

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Speaker 2: Final Hour on the way, we'll talk about the combine

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Speaker 2: and the pressing questions that these gms are facing right

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Speaker 2: now in the month of February. Final Hour, right after

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Speaker 2: this Dan and the dan Nette dan Patrick's show,