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Speaker 1: Appreciate you coming on the show. Man. We've been wanting

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Speaker 1: you to come on here and just talk about your greatness.

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Speaker 1: If you did the thing in this and you one

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Speaker 1: of the guys that we need to talk about and

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Speaker 1: let the basketball world know what you brought to.

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Speaker 2: The tay, I appreciate you. Know. The good thing might

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Speaker 2: be being retired. You're a better player today and women

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Speaker 2: you're playing right. That's the case for me. Let us

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Speaker 2: tell it. You know, I'm glad to be here. Glad

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Speaker 2: to be here. Man. Thanks.

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Speaker 1: When you first got to the league, who was the

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Speaker 1: first person to bust you up?

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Speaker 2: You richer league?

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Speaker 3: You ain't.

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Speaker 2: First you wanted to come standing up? Say you heard

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Speaker 2: some relate rel You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: Get you so you can't be. You can't be.

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Speaker 4: You say you tell he always signed bro Ain't nobody

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Speaker 4: said you bust the ass first?

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Speaker 2: If you want, like regular, he's in game iummer league

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Speaker 2: games with no official record. You know what I'm saying, Kobe,

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Speaker 2: we can say Kobe sixty quarters today official lea.

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Speaker 3: You know you know what you just did.

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Speaker 1: I'm never going to hear the end. I'm never gonna.

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Speaker 3: You hear me.

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Speaker 2: You remember this, don't you so the first play that's

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Speaker 2: long beach pyramid. Yeah, I'm like nervous. You know, that

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Speaker 2: was my first summer league game, and I don't know

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Speaker 2: if you expect me.

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Speaker 3: You can wait to uk.

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Speaker 2: First of all, let first play, drop Q, first play,

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Speaker 2: and I'm all right, he's my way in the game.

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Speaker 2: Hell no, y'all put me in the mixer right away.

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Speaker 3: Listen, listen, this is the thing that you gotta.

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Speaker 2: Well tome the NBA moment. I will never forget that.

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Speaker 4: This was the thing though, because we didn't play summer

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Speaker 4: league going to tie rookie year, so we played after it.

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Speaker 4: So they telling us, you know how you've been in

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Speaker 4: the league. So they telling you like, hey listen, hey coach,

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Speaker 4: You're like, hey, listen, guys, all right, guys, like this dad,

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Speaker 4: we only put this together for you, guys. This is

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Speaker 4: go out there and place. So like were like, what,

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Speaker 4: like hold up so we could do whatever. The guy

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Speaker 4: was like, boy Jojo and key key pull has entered

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Speaker 4: the bull field and we pulling all the sudden, like

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Speaker 4: we every game, we getting them up. So like that's

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Speaker 4: why when you said the first guy start, he did

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Speaker 4: the same thing that Eddie and Tyson's they first game.

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Speaker 3: We said we knew you.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, we was like to get him.

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Speaker 4: And you gotta think for me, it was my chance

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Speaker 4: to get some get back from that Duke ship because

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Speaker 4: that wasn't cool.

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Speaker 3: Y'all came to Chicago and thirty that that.

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Speaker 2: Was so funny. Well, you know the thing like they

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Speaker 2: tried to put me against you in the media, got

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Speaker 2: another lesson. Yeah, very early that they were trying to

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Speaker 2: make storylines. You know how about all these young guys

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Speaker 2: and they were drafted over you. You know, Eddie Curry

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Speaker 2: and Tyson were drafted over you at the time. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: it is what it is, guys, like, I'm happy to

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Speaker 2: be I'm happy to be here.

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Speaker 4: Yo, yo, yo, we live on location Miami, Florida.

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Speaker 3: Baby.

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Speaker 4: We came down to South Beach, me and the blackest

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Speaker 4: one we in South Beach Black, Yes, sir, hey man.

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Speaker 4: We came down here to get one of the Miami

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Speaker 4: Heat alumniw Duke alumni.

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Speaker 3: Yo. If being a.

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Speaker 4: Star in your role was a person my main man,

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Speaker 4: right here is the picture of perfect. We got Shane Battie,

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Speaker 4: a champion, gold medalist, All leg College Champion, Player of

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Speaker 4: the year all type accolades.

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Speaker 3: Man, y'all get in here and check this out. Man.

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Speaker 3: We live presented by Sleeper.

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Speaker 1: Birmingham, Michigan. But you went to Country Day? How does

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Speaker 1: that happen?

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Speaker 2: The funny thing? So see Web went to country Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I've lived in Birmingham, Michigan, east side of Birmingham, very

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Speaker 2: and I was in sixth grade public school and my

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Speaker 2: mom she said, look, I want you to go to

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Speaker 2: Country Day. And I didn't know what County Day was.

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Speaker 2: And at the time, I had this football stadium right

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Speaker 2: on thirteen Mile Road and I pay football and I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 2: I want to go there. So, like I had no idea,

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Speaker 2: like trikey Web, I had no idea about Country Day

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Speaker 2: I wanted to go there. The rest is history.

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Speaker 1: So you played football, So when did you stop playing football?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 2: I was the nineteen ninety pump passing Kickstate champion. I

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Speaker 2: used to have a cannon a leg. I could do

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Speaker 2: I love football, and in seventh grade I was six',

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Speaker 2: four so it's tight. End so, imagine you, KNOW i

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Speaker 2: was Like, KELSEY i Was Jimmy, graham like Before Jimmy,

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Speaker 2: graham you. Know and so get in the red zone

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Speaker 2: and you, know in middle, school all the dvs are.

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Speaker 3: Like, right everybody's SO i know exactly what you talking.

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Speaker 2: About so dread, ball and SO i loved. It and

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Speaker 2: THEN i was a. Kicker one, game our fourth, GAME

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Speaker 2: i kicked. OFF i ran on the. Field you, know

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Speaker 2: kick off. Squads kids don't play. Right SO i go

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Speaker 2: down and make a. Tackle this big clumsy dude falls

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Speaker 2: on my. Knee and so the first play the, Game i'm, like,

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Speaker 2: damn this is really. Hurts, Yeah SO i played the whole,

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Speaker 2: game caught touched on. Pass i'm, like, damn like it really.

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Speaker 2: Hurts go to the doctor AND i had a fractured.

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Speaker 2: Tibia dang full leg. CAST i mean they don't even

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Speaker 2: AND i, said that's it right every TIME i walked

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Speaker 2: BUT i walked away from. FOOTBALL i still love football.

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Speaker 1: Though once you got the country to day and they

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Speaker 1: start telling you about the ones they came before, you

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Speaker 1: you start getting familiar with the. History what did it mean, to,

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Speaker 1: like you, know play varsity and start on that.

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Speaker 2: Team and, look SO i walked in contrary the first

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Speaker 2: day in seventh, Grade everyone's, like, oh you, know you're

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Speaker 2: Next Sea. Web so it was because Because i'm six,

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Speaker 2: FOUR i, know LIKE i knew seab because he was

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Speaker 2: part of The fab. Five AND i love The fab.

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Speaker 2: Sea web the first.

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Speaker 2: Know, so SO i show up first day of. School

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Speaker 2: Coach keer never heard of. Me, here here's this, Dude

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Speaker 2: chris Webber. LEAVES i stepped in first, day six y. Four,

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Speaker 2: yeah and his first message to me is you're your own,

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Speaker 2: Dude you're your own. Player chris, was you, know once

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Speaker 2: a left time. Player he didn't know IF i was

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Speaker 2: gonna be good or. Not you never, play but he,

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Speaker 2: you and you never have to Be. Chris you got

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Speaker 2: to be the Best Shane Battier and SO i was

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Speaker 2: like super super blessed to go to a place WHERE

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Speaker 2: i could just be.

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Speaker 4: Me so when when you got, there did it take

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Speaker 4: long for you to? Adapt and did you hit it

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Speaker 1: Away?

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Speaker 2: Yeah that was pretty good. MAN i was LIKE i

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Speaker 2: was dunking in seventh grade AND i Remember hoopscoop. Magazine,

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Speaker 2: yeah you know to get In hoopscoop, man you don't even,

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Speaker 2: know you don't even. Know AND i was the FOURTH

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Speaker 2: i was the fourth best sixth grader my. Year, Okay

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Speaker 2: Shae cotton number.

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Speaker 4: Yeah Esteban, Weaver, oh people sleep on. Him they talk

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Speaker 4: About shid a, lot But esteban was a crazy killer

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Speaker 2: No Edmund, Saunders oh yeah out Of. Connecticut, YEAH i

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Speaker 2: was four And Jason Jaron. Cowns so like that's the

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Speaker 2: hell of a, class you, KNOW i mean like back,

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Speaker 2: now and that was like the biggest, thing like what you're?

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Speaker 2: Ranking what's your? Number and THEN i used to read

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Speaker 2: the one that Had kobe And andy Hollow way and

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Speaker 2: like all these, Cats LIKE i grew up watching, it

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Speaker 2: and so you saw these lists and you saw these

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Speaker 2: LIKE i didn't think it was real first of. All

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Speaker 2: SO i never believed. It And i'm, like, MAN i

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Speaker 2: don't want to. FAIL i Don't SO i fear was

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Speaker 2: the biggest motivator for. Me you, KNOW i had success

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Speaker 1: About time you senor. Came, yeah class was loaded at,

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Speaker 1: McDonald's like it was loaded in McDonald's names THAT i was, LIKE.

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Speaker 2: I mean my class L. O t, Mac, Baron Elton Ron,

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Speaker 2: Know Chris burgess was was a medicine high school, record you,

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Speaker 2: Know Kenny, Gregory yeah, Right Humphrey. Hum so you KNOW

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Speaker 2: AND i walked, by, like, man this was it was.

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Speaker 1: Crazy was a lot of crazy careers.

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Speaker 2: And like that was like the last time before people

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Speaker 2: so OBVIOUSLY t mac WENT T. Max you, know his

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Speaker 2: assent was, Crazy like no one knew who he was

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Speaker 4: DID i remember THERE i was that was the craziest

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Speaker 4: he fucking took that thing by. Storm it was. Crazy it's.

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Speaker 1: Crazy it was. Crazy you, know how was you won

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Speaker 1: your sophomore year and you come back when your junior,

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Speaker 1: year how was like them years for you leading up

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Speaker 1: to like you back to back? Champs the summertimes is

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Speaker 1: different now that's when kind of a you kind of

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Speaker 2: That, yeah you, know LIKE i was never. Satisfied you,

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Speaker 2: know we. WON i played with Both sea webs little,

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Speaker 2: Brothers jason And, david so.

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Speaker 3: We played Against.

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Speaker 2: David, yeah we had some squads and like our practices

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Speaker 2: were tougher than our games and country it was like

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Speaker 2: was super competitive classroom playing, field you, know so you always.

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Speaker 2: Worked it was a collage. Prep it was you, KNOW

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Speaker 2: i was lucky in high. SCHOOL i was a ball

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Speaker 2: boy for The. PISTONS i love The pistons growing, up you,

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Speaker 2: KNOW i grew up with the bad. Boys, Okay jodie

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Speaker 2: And isaiah and The worm and you, know all these

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Speaker 3: In ninety one came, well you, know.

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Speaker 2: We feel that The bulls had to pay their, dues

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Speaker 2: Right so it's a circle of. Life circle of, life you.

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Speaker 3: Glorious, yeah. Man but like So i'm in high.

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Speaker 2: School i'm watching these guys And i'm, like, man LIKE

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Speaker 4: That's one of the coolest things That i've come to

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Speaker 4: he's telling stories about Knowing, yeah these guys knowing them.

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Speaker 4: Before they Really, LIKE i think that's dope because we all,

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Speaker 4: you a different type of. Way and LIKE i always, think, like,

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Speaker 4: that to be numerous stories and then to see some

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Speaker 2: Pudding AND i mean you're off From, midwest so you,

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Speaker 3: Work there was no.

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Speaker 2: Was it was about the, work about the, work you,

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Speaker 2: you just put the work.

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Speaker 1: In, man you, know could have been anybody. Else get

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Speaker 1: you what's THAT i. Do that's a good.

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Speaker 2: One that's good. One it Was duke Of. Carolina so

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Speaker 3: Yeah it's always it's either.

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Speaker 3: Else it's them.

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Speaker 3: Base, no it was Either, well it's.

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Speaker 2: Funny so it. Is just got To Michigan state WHEN

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Speaker 1: It he was.

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Speaker 2: Great he's, like is now you know? Tough and it

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Speaker 2: TIME i see, HIM i, say you, know you messed.

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Speaker 2: Up he's like we're talking About he's, like you came

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Speaker 3: Ten oh.

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Speaker 2: No and THEN i Got Dean smith And coach k

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Speaker 2: a small for, man you gotta shoot. Threes And i'm,

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Speaker 2: Like i'm of those dudes. Osophy that's true. Story that's true.

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Speaker 2: Story but, uh you, KNOW i Love Coach. Smith he was,

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Speaker 2: unbelievable you. Know and every player ever played For Coach

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Speaker 2: smith said he changed your. Life and SO i didn't

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Speaker 2: SAY i Loved, carolina BUT i Loved Coach. Smith but

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Speaker 2: it was always it was always. Duke people always ask

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Speaker 2: i played for a lot of great. Coaches he knew

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Speaker 2: what button to. Push some of my, Teammates i'm not saying,

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Speaker 2: names they needed to kick in the ass every, day

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Speaker 2: him because he knew that's what they. Needed some guys

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Speaker 2: need to be hugged every. Day he hugged. Them not a,

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Speaker 2: lot but he hugged. Them and for, me they started

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Speaker 2: in high school and recruited. Me he, knew like my

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Speaker 2: button was just being an unbelievable, competitor and SO i

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Speaker 2: and all that. Stuff And Coach kate, Said, Yo i'm

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Speaker 2: not gonna promise you. Minutes i'm not gonna promise you playing.

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Speaker 2: Time i'm not gonna promise you. Anything promise you one,

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Speaker 2: thing the opportunity to earn playing time.

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Speaker 3: Every day in.

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Speaker 2: Practice and if you're good, enough you'll, play you'll.

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Speaker 1: Play that talking to.

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Speaker 3: Me you're talking to.

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Speaker 2: Me, WELL i don't know About Treasure, land About, WOJO

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Speaker 2: i don't know about Seaunc, CLAD i don't know about.

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Speaker 2: Brand but when death, Subtles i'm gonna be. There and

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Speaker 2: so he had, me and so my first, Day i'm

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Speaker 2: gonna show. You i'm gonna show you every single day

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Speaker 2: That i'm the. Dude so he had me in high

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Speaker 3: Single what was it like knowing y'all recruiting class was fucking?

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Speaker 1: Crazy?

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Speaker 4: Sing, like what was that feeling like when y'all coming

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Speaker 4: when y'all come, together how was y'all looking at each

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Speaker 4: with whoever else was? Doing that freshman class was? Crazy

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Speaker 4: it Was how was that when y'all like committing in.

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Speaker 4: and y'all get, There like what was that like when

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Speaker 3: Collection to Du like what was y'all thinking and talking?

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Speaker 2: Well people ask, me like what makes pros? Different AND

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Speaker 2: i think the thing we all had two different levels

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Speaker 2: was irrational. Confidence, yeah you, know that's all that superability

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Speaker 2: that we can't be were. Irrational we're, young we think

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Speaker 2: we're it. Right so, like you, Know Elton brand's coming

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Speaker 2: In Chris. Burgess you know this guy like, MAN i

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Speaker 2: hope you. Play you, KNOW i hope you.

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Speaker 3: Play.

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Speaker 2: MAN i really up here for you. Everybody so when

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Speaker 2: you go to a place Like, duke everyone thinks For Grant,

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Speaker 2: hill everyone thinks Of Christian. Lanner everyone thinks they're gonna

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Speaker 2: have that. Career and it's that belief that makes you,

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Speaker 2: Good but it's also that belief that sometimes doesn't let

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Speaker 2: you see yourself for who you. Are LIKE i knew

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Speaker 2: WHO i. WAS i was always comfortable WHO i. WAS

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Speaker 2: i was not super, athletic a little bit of, bounce you,

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Speaker 2: know way back, when BUT i knew no one was

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Speaker 2: gonna think. Me no one's gonna work me and when

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Speaker 2: my time would, come my time would. Come it. Did

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Speaker 2: but those, practices, Man i'm telling, you they were. Wars

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Speaker 2: coach k just would unlock the, gym roll out the,

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Speaker 2: balls and, say all, right wants to. Play and that's

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Speaker 2: Why i've never been part of anything that had that level.

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Speaker 2: Competition every, day every, day every there was not a day,

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Speaker 2: off and so you just were just you were like a.

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Speaker 2: Soldier you're wired to.

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Speaker 1: Compete what was your first experience the duke In North? Carolina, Again, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I'm not just.

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Speaker 4: GAME i want to know the leader BECAUSE i didn't

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Speaker 4: hear stories about the in between campus.

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Speaker 2: The parties, instead like you know the. List, yeah it's

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Speaker 2: a it's a weird, week fir as crazy as you

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Speaker 2: think The rover, is it's even, crazier you. KNOW i

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Speaker 2: mean you have like little kids like third fourth grade

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Speaker 2: getting fights at school that.

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Speaker 1: Week dude's.

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Speaker 2: Better No carolina's been like fist. Fights, right you can

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Speaker 2: go to the store like like it's it's you. McCoy's

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Speaker 2: you're on one side or the. Other there's not like.

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Speaker 4: You heard like like people employees of each other's schools

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Speaker 4: are fans of the opposite. School, yeah like lunch people

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Speaker 4: custodians and, something and they might see, you let's say

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Speaker 4: something all the.

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Speaker 2: Day. Huh so like Now duke was like cool and

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Speaker 2: so like people like you see people Wearing duke stuff

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Speaker 2: like back in nineteen ninety, Nine like, no you, know

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Speaker 2: So duke wasn't. Cool so like people hate.

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Speaker 3: Us, yeah, YEAH i was one of those people that

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Speaker 3: part of the.

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Speaker 2: Deal that's part of the. DEAL i got. It but

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Speaker 2: that week there's an extra amount of. Intensity and so

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Speaker 2: normally you've been joking around. Whatever coach cave and said

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Speaker 2: on more than one, occasion you don't fuck with this. Game,

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Speaker 2: yeah you respect this, game you respect the history like.

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Speaker 2: That you. Know it was like so the first time

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Speaker 2: we played it was the only TIME i ever lost

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Speaker 2: by double digits in. College so they. Advanced they Had

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Speaker 2: antoine right at the Old Laja, nactar Ji Amon. Williams

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Speaker 2: they played six, guys but then they Were, jeff you,

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Speaker 2: know they were two shads already. Gone we were. One

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Speaker 2: there were. TWO i, mean it was as hyped as

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Speaker 2: it could be IN espn And Dicky, dicky it was.

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Speaker 2: Crazy so the first game was, there so driving over,

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Speaker 2: there it's only twelve minute ride, right twelve. Minutes literally

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Speaker 2: we know all each. Other we could pick up in

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Speaker 2: the fall and. Everything so it's not like we don't

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Speaker 2: know this. Cat we know. Everybody we. Know there's no,

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Speaker 2: secrets it's just a. Matter and you walk into this

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Speaker 2: The Dean, dome and it's just like this nauseating blue,

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Speaker 2: man like it makes you want to take a. Nap all,

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Speaker 2: right the whole thing is, blue all. RIGHT i Respect

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Speaker 2: caroline almost went. There you walk in there, like, MAN

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Speaker 2: i don't take a. Nap but they kicked our. Ass

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Speaker 2: and that was the game Where i've never seen a

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Speaker 2: miss dunk get On Sports. Center that was the game

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Speaker 2: they threw that threw it off the backboard from halfport

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Speaker 2: And vince and missed it and it was. Insane and

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Speaker 2: after that, game it was the only time coach yelled at.

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Speaker 2: Me so next, DAY i mean film sessions with coach

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Speaker 2: K i mean you caught. HELL i mean he went after.

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Speaker 2: You and so LIKE i was pretty good, PLAYER i

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Speaker 2: was starting at the. Time and he gets to me

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Speaker 2: and he goes And, Baddie.

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Speaker 5: I'm mister All, American i'm mister everybody loves. Me i'm,

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Speaker 5: Soft i'm, WEAK i get kicked By Brendan haywood's ass.

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Speaker 2: Like it was going at. Me and you, Know i'm

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Speaker 2: a good kid AND i never got in trouble on

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Speaker 2: high school and coach k is just no one ever

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Speaker 2: talked to me that. Way and SO i left. That i'm,

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Speaker 2: like no one is ever going to talk to me

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Speaker 2: that way. Again that was my. Goal and we got

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Speaker 2: a great rematch last game of the year and camera

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Speaker 2: And wojo's senior. Night we beat. Him but the, rivalry

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Speaker 2: you can talk about, it but until you're in, it you,

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Speaker 2: know you don't know what it's.

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Speaker 1: About how was your first experience an. Attorney, YEAH i

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Speaker 1: got high. Expectations expect you know when it's fun.

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Speaker 2: FUN i mean that's why you go to school like,

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Speaker 2: that and you walk in it's something you grew up

433
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Speaker 2: watching and dreaming. About you're finally in. IT i think

434
00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:08,520
Speaker 2: our first game is Goast radford and the selection committee

435
00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,760
Speaker 2: did is dirty and they put us In. Lexington so we.

436
00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:12,119
Speaker 3: Go we go To.

437
00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,960
Speaker 2: Lexington we all Know Kentucky Haytes. Duke so we got

438
00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,680
Speaker 2: our practice day and everyone's there just booming us the entire,

439
00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:21,439
Speaker 2: time and a coach kid is like we got to embrace.

440
00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,760
Speaker 2: It you got embrace you. Know and the cool thing About, Duke,

441
00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:26,960
Speaker 2: look we won a lot of games four. YEARS i

442
00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:30,920
Speaker 2: was one hundred and thirty one and. Fifteen, yeah it's

443
00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,120
Speaker 2: a lot of, wins a lot of wins most ever

444
00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,760
Speaker 2: to that point in a four year. Period and if

445
00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:38,440
Speaker 2: you were, soft that wasn't the place for. You And

446
00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,240
Speaker 2: coach k was today he, said you got to enjoy

447
00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,080
Speaker 2: people giving you your best. Shot because when the schedule

448
00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,920
Speaker 2: comes out Every, august people say when we Playing. Duke

449
00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,840
Speaker 2: and so whether you're PLAYING nca AND, t whether you're

450
00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:53,480
Speaker 2: Playing North Carolina, state whether you're Playing, carolina that game

451
00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:55,480
Speaker 2: is always circling a. Red so you got to like

452
00:20:55,600 --> 00:21:00,760
Speaker 2: expect the best. Shot, yeah every sing. Off not, Man

453
00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:04,480
Speaker 2: i'm playing you know this whack. Team and so it's a.

454
00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,879
Speaker 2: Standard and so you're so used to just being at

455
00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:11,160
Speaker 2: this level all the, time not taking any nights. Off but,

456
00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:14,320
Speaker 2: like as a, competitor that's what you live, for. Right

457
00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:16,320
Speaker 2: we saw it, all we heard it, all we've been

458
00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,639
Speaker 2: ever and we kept. Winning so like that was the

459
00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,840
Speaker 2: best thing about winning all those games was we were

460
00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,760
Speaker 2: expected to, Win we got people's best shot and we still.

461
00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,600
Speaker 1: Won was the plan to stay four years that went good.

462
00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:32,480
Speaker 2: Enough to, Leave, YEAH i could.

463
00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:33,320
Speaker 3: Go you, know.

464
00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:36,639
Speaker 2: It was it was some years that you had a

465
00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,359
Speaker 2: good junior. Year SO i had a good. YEAR i

466
00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,520
Speaker 2: Was All american in average about, nineteen and that probably

467
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,360
Speaker 2: could have came up. Then, honestly like it was more

468
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,399
Speaker 2: important to me to be an impact player WHEN i

469
00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,880
Speaker 2: got to the league AND i felt LIKE i wasn't there,

470
00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:50,879
Speaker 2: yet AND i was LIKE i was power forward in, college,

471
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,399
Speaker 2: remember you, KNOW i shot threes LIKE i was LIKE

472
00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:55,920
Speaker 2: i was just stretched four, Essentially and SO i knew

473
00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:57,840
Speaker 2: like IF i went to the, league, Like, Okay i'm

474
00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:59,800
Speaker 2: in the, league but it cost, me like you, know

475
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,280
Speaker 2: ten million bucks for that one extra year could have squeaked.

476
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,080
Speaker 2: Out but at the, Time i'm, like it matters to

477
00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:06,919
Speaker 2: me THAT i want to. START i want to be

478
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,439
Speaker 2: a good pro for a long, time and so that

479
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,800
Speaker 2: last year of work was really. IMPORTANT i worked With Chip.

480
00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:17,240
Speaker 3: England, yeah that's, right.

481
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:20,000
Speaker 1: He.

482
00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:23,080
Speaker 3: Did we worked through him getting when we came out

483
00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:23,359
Speaker 3: into the.

484
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,960
Speaker 4: Draft every day we would go TO tg And Dango

485
00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 4: chip well vice.

486
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:29,800
Speaker 3: Versa it would be the chip of. Him we would

487
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:34,320
Speaker 3: like the machine be a. Machine, YEAH i mean shout out.

488
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,359
Speaker 2: Tip, yeah, man that changed my. Life he was the

489
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,439
Speaker 2: most important guy from my individual game because my freshman

490
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,280
Speaker 2: YEAR i shot four for twenty eight from three four

491
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,399
Speaker 2: for twenty, eight, right And ship, said, look if you

492
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,879
Speaker 2: want to play in the, league got change. It and

493
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:52,439
Speaker 2: so Imagine i'm starting At duke all. RIGHT i was

494
00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,920
Speaker 2: all first team defense and changing my shot in college

495
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,439
Speaker 2: and so the leap of faith of going through that,

496
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,119
Speaker 2: process BUT i knew for WHERE i wanted to, BE

497
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 2: i had to do.

498
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 1: It let me ask you, this winning the championship your senior,

499
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 1: year did it make them full years worth? It?

500
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah oh, yeah it would have been worth. REGARDLESS i, mean,

501
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 2: yeah when you, win you, say oh, YEAH i told you.

502
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 2: So but like WHAT i learned my, Readiness yeah it

503
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:23,720
Speaker 2: was great three one, absolutely but you realize it's it

504
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 2: really is about the, journey you, know and taking advantage

505
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,200
Speaker 2: of the. Opportunity and SO i.

506
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 4: WAS i. WAS i was super proud of that this.

507
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,720
Speaker 4: SITUATION i want to go back to your sophomore year two.

508
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:37,119
Speaker 4: Things tell me what your if your first impression was

509
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 4: when my bro ir bro Aka Ferrari corey mcgetti came.

510
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 3: To The tell me did he come in Like jimmy.

511
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 2: Was the first one and.

512
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 3: Done who was this? Dude do you hear?

513
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 4: Me corey came in Like jimmy Superfly, snooker did me

514
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 4: top rope muscles?

515
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 3: Already this, DUDE i mean walking on.

516
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 2: AIR i mean he was so, strong so. Athletic everything

517
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 2: he did was like it was. Unbelievable i've Known.

518
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 4: Corey see sixth grade and he's been like he was

519
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,440
Speaker 4: the kid that like everything he does, sweet like everything

520
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 4: like paulsing in their finger rolling like you say he

521
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,200
Speaker 4: was in seventh eighth. Grade he was six three sings.

522
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,440
Speaker 4: Before he was dunking before. Everybody. Everything he was? Special

523
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:23,680
Speaker 4: how was coach K?

524
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:29,439
Speaker 1: Corey? Though? CORY i know some, Story cory's gonna do.

525
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 1: It you don't say fuck the. Play i'm just gonna.

526
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 1: DRIVE i sell you this so So coach k Rolled corey,

527
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:40,640
Speaker 1: out came off the, bench you know six MAN. Yep

528
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:42,879
Speaker 1: if it was Good, corey he let the. Spind if

529
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 1: it was Bad, Corey corey.

530
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 2: Comes down next to me and you knew right away

531
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 2: that wasn't like it was either a Good corey or Bad.

532
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 3: Cory he was. Good he was.

533
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 2: REALLY i mean the game Against florida comes, out he dunks,

534
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:55,919
Speaker 2: It he's slapping the.

535
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,680
Speaker 4: Backboard it was the best PART i. SAW i messed

536
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:00,880
Speaker 4: with him to this day about. That the best part

537
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:06,679
Speaker 4: about that. Play the man boom swings. Up he swung

538
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:11,639
Speaker 4: up like it was a, look then pulled itself out

539
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 4: the way up to the very top of the back

540
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 4: boy boom like he wanted to punch through the back.

541
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,159
Speaker 3: Boy the rep call a.

542
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,440
Speaker 2: Tech he came down talking about WHAT i, Said, bro

543
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 2: what are you talking?

544
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 4: About what.

545
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 2: Did the absolute most on national?

546
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 3: TEAM i.

547
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 2: LAUGHED i thought it was, funny you, KNOW i thought

548
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 2: Coach gason it was gonna Get froim or even coach

549
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 2: k thought it was funny because because it Was, corey

550
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 2: it was completely. Organic it wasn't like he was, trying

551
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,919
Speaker 2: like he just was in the. Moment so he was.

552
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 3: Great.

553
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:44,679
Speaker 2: Though so after our sophomore, year the first time anyone

554
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,879
Speaker 2: From duke went to the draft, early So elton Will

555
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 2: avery flew of everybody With Trajan. Corey so like the,

556
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:58,640
Speaker 2: coaches the coaches stuff so worried that like Only Chris

557
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 2: carrowell and They james and me were gonna. Back and

558
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,119
Speaker 2: so they're, like we have to Have corey. Back we

559
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 2: have to Have corey. Back and so they did a

560
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,679
Speaker 2: man hunt trying it to talk To. Corey to a,

561
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 2: man they were knocking on the dorm. Room corey saw

562
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 2: them and didn't want to talk to. Him jumps in his.

563
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 2: Closet he's hiding from the coaches because he knew he

564
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,880
Speaker 2: was doing the league and he didn't want to deal

565
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 2: with the. Coaches, yeah Wo joe And Chris collins banging

566
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:21,879
Speaker 2: on the.

567
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:26,160
Speaker 3: Door, corey that class you better not be in that clubs.

568
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 1: In the.

569
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:33,119
Speaker 2: Closet it was the funniest the. Funnies SO i was.

570
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 2: Happy so, like you, know see Whatll nate AND i were, like, Man,

571
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 2: corey great, man, man you'n be so good. MAN i

572
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,439
Speaker 2: don't care what they. Say you gotta. Go so it

573
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:45,159
Speaker 2: worked out for all of.

574
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 1: Us your senior, year you play With, Boozer Chris, Duhun

575
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 1: Jason williams And Mike. Dunnley Jason williams don't get talked

576
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 1: about this much because fortunately he went through what he went.

577
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:59,640
Speaker 1: Through but just tell, us, like how Dope Jason williams

578
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:00,439
Speaker 1: will he.

579
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:00,880
Speaker 3: Was a bad.

580
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 2: Man when he got in a, roll he could shoot.

581
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 2: It he could. Finish he was, strong he could, defend you,

582
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,439
Speaker 2: know he made, plays he got in the paint whenever he,

583
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 2: wanted and he made the game look really, easy you,

584
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 2: know and so LIKE i loved, him is my running,

585
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 2: mate and he was man that tournament run we had

586
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 2: in two thousand and one where he was averaging about

587
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 2: thirty people. FORGET i, mean but you, know if you're out,

588
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,919
Speaker 2: there young kid watching, this go YouTube Jason, williams all,

589
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 2: right he was.

590
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:31,919
Speaker 1: Nice you got to talk about him because he was

591
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 1: one of the ONES i just know he was gonna

592
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:35,159
Speaker 1: be just.

593
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 2: It And COACH k was on. HIM i, Mean COACH

594
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 2: k was really tough because he knew like how good he,

595
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 2: was and So jason needed tough love to, say all,

596
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 2: right like, yo and so he would always Show jason's.

597
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,959
Speaker 2: Face COACH k is really big on body, language all.

598
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 2: Right so he'd show Like jason like missing a shout

599
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 2: and make a turnover And jason wouldn't be hanging his,

600
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,639
Speaker 2: head and he'd have a clip in practice of Just

601
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 2: jason's body, language and he, said sound you the best

602
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 2: player on the. Court you got to act like. It

603
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 2: what do you think the opponent's thinking when you're like

604
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 2: going like, this it's like so like so like more

605
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 2: than anything from a skill, Standpoint coach k helped him

606
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,679
Speaker 2: just like look the. Part, yeah that was the difference For.

607
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 2: Jason you, Know i'm a small, thing but it made

608
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 2: a difference For.

609
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 4: Jay will talk about how especially it was to play At.

610
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 4: Cameron you KNOW i got to play was that my

611
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:24,160
Speaker 4: sophomore YEAR i played?

612
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 1: There what do you?

613
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 2: THINK i, MEAN i play her every, day so, like

614
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 2: what do you think walking to that?

615
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 3: GYM i felt like it was. COOL i, mean, No

616
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 3: i'm not being.

617
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 4: Disrespectful i'm saying like because it's a small, gym but

618
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 4: you gotta understand. Me coming From, chicago we played in

619
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 4: real little gyms and stuff like. That but like to

620
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 4: be in college and then we in the locker, room

621
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 4: you could hit them up there above. You you could

622
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 4: hit them jumping and doing different stuff above. You and you,

623
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 4: know they they, fans. Relentless they didn't camp, out they

624
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 4: didn't done. This and at the time WHEN i went,

625
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 4: there that was WHEN i was ON espn magazine with

626
00:28:58,720 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 4: the pen.

627
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 3: Heads they had out of this. Shit, yeah we got

628
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 3: the hammer for you right here.

629
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 4: Here i'm like and LIKE i was Like my whole

630
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 4: thing going in was Like i'm gonna straight ignore. Everything

631
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 4: i'm not gonna respond to nothing like that's what they

632
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 4: want to, do, Right So i'm gonna just sit. There

633
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 4: like it got to a point that one, kid, YELL.

634
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 1: I know, you it's only your.

635
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 3: MAN i was, like it's only a matter see.

636
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 2: IT i was Like i'm looking at my Manor i'm, like,

637
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 2: bro you hear.

638
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 4: It, like but it was like for, me it was

639
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 4: like it was. CRAZY i could see that being, like you,

640
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 4: KNOW i.

641
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 3: Could feel the whole.

642
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 4: Everything it was AN espn GAME duv and that was you,

643
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 4: know so it was everything that it. Was but for

644
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 4: me in, COLLEGE i wasn't really thinking about that, shit

645
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 4: to be, REAL i was trying to get WHERE i was,

646
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 4: going so like every stop was like boom boom. Boom

647
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 4: but LIKE i just wanted, to like for everybody to

648
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 4: play there daily BECAUSE i know it hit different for

649
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 4: that cause you know What i'm, saying y'all see the

650
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 4: fans and the du was camping out and how crazy

651
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 4: they going all week when certain games, happen and then

652
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 4: y'all feel that energy because LIKE i definitely saw that

653
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 4: in the game where because we only lost that second.

654
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 4: Year Fucking Nick corvev banked the fucking three from the

655
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 4: top of the key A. Center he banked the fucking

656
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 4: three from the top of the key banked.

657
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 3: It fuck. GAME i was, like, niked how so you?

658
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 4: Bro i'm, like, yeah fout to walk up in this

659
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 4: bus and give me one a. Camon i'm doing my,

660
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 4: stuff like you know What i'm.

661
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 3: Saying they can't handle me. Everything and then he hit

662
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 3: a fucking three from the.

663
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 4: TOP i was, like, bro some, bullshit but like you

664
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 4: know What i'm, saying, like but they rallied the ENERGY

665
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 4: i was. That so that's WHY i, say, like just from,

666
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 4: somebody you did the whole four year, deal SO i

667
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 4: know to hear from, y'all it's a different point of.

668
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 4: View you know What i'm, saying y'all ain't been there

669
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 4: for The North carolina games and all that different historical.

670
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,239
Speaker 4: Stuff so our game wasn't like. That we was just,

671
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 4: departed you know What i'm. Saying we wasn't name it,

672
00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 4: was we ranked. IT i don't even. Know it didn't.

673
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:03,239
Speaker 2: Matter SO i lost five games and four years at.

674
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 2: Home it was. Tough the crazy thing About cameron was

675
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 2: we won more games Than, laplines because none of every

676
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 2: team was The paul. Note every team had the right,

677
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 2: mentality and so especially ninety nine in two thousand and,

678
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 2: one we were rolling. Teams you could tell would look

679
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 2: down and at our end and see how we're warming,

680
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 2: up like it's due for. Real we knew it like,

681
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 2: that so we already psyched. Out so we knew if

682
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 2: we hit him with twelve to, two you, know sixteen to,

683
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 2: four it's. Over it's a crazy. Thing we LIKE i,

684
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 2: said we won more games and lamplines all we need

685
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 2: to come out and say boom and people Would that's.

686
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 3: What happened to.

687
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 4: Us you remember that would be your sophomore, year my

688
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 4: freshman year.

689
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 3: In The United.

690
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 4: States, yeah play in The United, center biggest crowd In

691
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 4: illinois basketball college basketball, history sold that bitch Out United.

692
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 4: Center jam pecked overflowed a smack. Please he said it

693
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 4: was bing bing bang bang.

694
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 3: Bang bang, baby and then it was.

695
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 2: Over you know the thing, coach and this was like

696
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,479
Speaker 2: the mentality coach k put into. Us he's, like, look

697
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 2: no one's losing their. Job they lose To. Duke think about.

698
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 2: That no one's you, know getting the article written about

699
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 2: it all you lost to, Duke it's like it's, okay

700
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 2: it's okay to lose The, duke but you got to show,

701
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 2: up you. Know it's like when The lakers were, rolling

702
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 2: like you, know The shaq And kobe and everyone else

703
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 2: champ like we tried hard next, right and so coach k,

704
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,719
Speaker 2: said look like you have to make it okay for

705
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 2: people to lose to. You that's WHY i tell young.

706
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 2: People make it so, like oh, MAN i played that, cat,

707
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 2: Yep i'm supposed to lose to. HIM i tried. Hard it's,

708
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 2: okay what's, next what's? NEXT i compete. It and so

709
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 2: so once you get people to rationalize it's okay to

710
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 2: lose to, you you've.

711
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 3: WON i never rationalized.

712
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 4: Record your senior, year, Bro well you want down there

713
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 4: every college it would there was every player of the, year, whatever,

714
00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 4: conference national, everything one national, trend like like prior to

715
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 4: getting into the, draft like just at the end of that,

716
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 4: year like you just, complete, Yo see how did you

717
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 4: feel after? That like, knowing like looking over your collegiate

718
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 4: accomplishments like ship like four YEARS i want like you

719
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 4: talked about it the most ever wins and then like

720
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 4: you tack onto that like Now i've arrived as as him. Too,

721
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 4: though like you know What i'm, SAYING i got all

722
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 4: of the idea THAT i did my, time and like you,

723
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 4: say the, freshman you said it was gonna be your

724
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 4: time would.

725
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 3: Come now it's like here and you got all these.

726
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 2: Accolades it was on the, next it was on the.

727
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 2: Next no even, no it was, hey this is, great

728
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 2: thank you appreciate. It BUT i want to point ten.

729
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 2: YEARS i was so focused, that LIKE i would, SAY

730
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 2: i want to, win and.

731
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 3: So none of the award shows it was no.

732
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 2: Like celebration she. Had, REALLY i was happy. Party you,

733
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 2: KNOW i enjoyed, myself don't get. IT i enjoyed, myself all,

734
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 2: Right BUT i never was. Satisfied AND i never, Said,

735
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 2: OKAY i made. It i've never SAID i made, it

736
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,479
Speaker 2: even like, TODAY i you, Know i'm still proud to be.

737
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 2: Better i'm still trying to figure it, out. Right SO

738
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 2: i never thought ONCE i made. IT i thought that

739
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 2: was a culmination of hard work and it was nice

740
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:14,319
Speaker 2: to be. Recognized BUT i never thought, Like, Okay i'm

741
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 2: that dude, now because ONCE i, know ONCE i won those, wars, okay, man,

742
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 2: Okay i'm fighting these these young guys for you, KNOW

743
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 2: i was in the.

744
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 1: LEAGUE i remember telling those like the trips and all. Everywhere,

745
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 1: yeah to, go it was like a mini.

746
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 3: Tour you had to.

747
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 2: Go was, Great it's. Great COLLECT i probably didn't enjoy

748
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 2: it as much AS i should. Have i've always been,

749
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 2: super super focused and like. That that was my, goal

750
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 2: my GOALS i put on the wall just you, know

751
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 2: national player of The, year national, Champion national Defensive player

752
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 2: of the, year and so looking at every single. Day

753
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 2: and so WHEN i, happened it was just, Like, okay

754
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 2: that's WHAT i put out in the, universe AND i was.

755
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 2: Rewarded what's, Next, yeah what's, next you? Know and SO i,

756
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 2: WAS i, WAS i was pretty. Psycho i'm a little

757
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 2: more relaxed, now BUT i was PRETTY i was really.

758
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 2: Focused my wife twenty. Years we dated in high school

759
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 2: and she dumped me in tenth grade and she was

760
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 2: my first, girlfriend my first, kiss and and she, said

761
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 2: you're too. SERIOUS i WANT i want to have. FUN

762
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 2: i want TO i want to hang, out you, know

763
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 2: if you're too. Serious SO i, said all, right we'll

764
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 2: be back. Here, yeah twenty, years twenty. Years love, LISTEN

765
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 2: i love, YOU i love. You wouldn't change it for,

766
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 2: anything so.

767
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 3: THAT i rational.

768
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 2: Company, yes they all come. Back that is.

769
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 1: AWESOME i mean the draft workouts you, DID i did?

770
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 2: Six he was like YOU i did?

771
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 3: Six, YEAH i was you, know did you go?

772
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 1: To who do you think he was? Going you knew

773
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 1: he was going.

774
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 2: TO i was. SCARED i hated the. DRAFT i wanted

775
00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 2: to go To atlanta. THREE i didn't think they want at,

776
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 2: me BUT i thought THAT i didn't want to go

777
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 2: number one To. WASHINGTON i didn't want to deal with

778
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 2: that with. THEM i just, didn't you, KNOW I i

779
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 2: just wanted to like he's into my, career the clip, Show,

780
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 2: Atlanta Golden, state The, nets and The. Grizz SO i

781
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 2: worked for top six teams and on draft, day like

782
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 2: all these reports came out That i'm slipping in the

783
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 2: and So i'm freaking. Out so you, Know i'm Calling

784
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 2: i'm Calling Jerry Saint, Geane i'm Calling Pete. Babcock i'm

785
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,399
Speaker 2: calling THE gms and, saying look LIKE i, Know I'm

786
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 2: i'm twenty two years, Old Like i'm going to get,

787
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 2: better Like i'm. Not you, Know i'm gonna be a good.

788
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 2: Problem i'm gonna play ten. YEARS i promise you it's

789
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 2: a good. Pick So i'm like selling myself on draft

790
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 2: night Crazy AND i was scary BECAUSE i didn't see

791
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 2: it in the teams behind, me so LIKE i probably

792
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 2: would have sipped like thirteen or. Fourteen and So i'm

793
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 2: doing the math in my head being, like oh, man LIKE.

794
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 4: I got a tight thing about youth and potential and

795
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 4: really like what you are, NOW i got.

796
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 2: IT i wasn't like upset out of high school AND

797
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 2: i got, it you, know AND i got. It and

798
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 2: so WHEN i was finally drafted By memphis six and

799
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 2: they traded For pogoshol, THREE i felt good about. That you,

800
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 2: Know grizzlies were, horrible BUT i Knew i'd get a

801
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 2: chance to, play, grow, learn and so it worked.

802
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 4: Out how was it like you being a rookie and

803
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 4: then you get a coaching change and then you get

804
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 4: like the Legendary Hubie brown who we all have, seen you,

805
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 4: know WAY i. HAD i remember Having Hubie brown basketball

806
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 4: car when he had the super curly hit as A

807
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 4: how is that like? You you know What i'm, saying

808
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 4: you somebody who definitely is knowledgeable at the, game and.

809
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 3: Know, That how was that for?

810
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 2: You the best, well first of, all WHEN i got

811
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 2: drafted by The, grizzlies So duke one hundred and thirty

812
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 2: three and, fifteen all, right, record, right no, MORE i

813
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 2: get to the Grizz the grizz have the lowest winning

814
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 2: percentage of the Four North american sports, football, basketball, football, baseball,

815
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 2: hockey so literally the worst pro franchise In North. America,

816
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 2: yeah so you talk about a team that doesn't have any,

817
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 2: culture has like no idea how to, win no, resilience no,

818
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 2: togetherness and they had just got to like one or

819
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 2: two years for, sure was for Sure, Memphis, right.

820
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 3: We play In?

821
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 2: Vancouver, yeah so, Yeah i've never been To vancouver still

822
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:22,760
Speaker 2: to this. Day and, yeah trust was. Great Trust everyone

823
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 2: said that like.

824
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 4: After getting older and really understanding what was going, on because

825
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 4: like at first we was happy when they took it

826
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:29,839
Speaker 4: and like.

827
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 3: Good we got to Go. Custins then it was like,

828
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 3: damn that was like like why did we let that?

829
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 3: Happen Like.

830
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,240
Speaker 4: Vancouver he's trying a movie In, van you, know he

831
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,839
Speaker 4: started you, Know SUPERSTAR d movie start.

832
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 2: Man, yeah you, KNOW i get To memphis and HERE i,

833
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 2: Am I'm duke. Boy So i'm talking like, guys you

834
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,919
Speaker 2: know come, on we gotta. Connect let's let's huddle, After

835
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 2: let's huddle after you, know every foul. Shot come, on come,

836
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 2: on you, know like let's for each. Other and they're,

837
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 2: like duke, boy go sit in the. Corner SO i

838
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 2: learned that lesson like, quick, quickly and SO i SO

839
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 2: i didn't give, up you, know Because i'm, like all,

840
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 2: Right i'm gonna do the right. Thing and the funny

841
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 2: thing about that locker, ROOM i never really had a

842
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 2: vet that was like my. Vet so they said you

843
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 2: got to figure out in your own all, right that's.

844
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 2: Cool and so it Was Pago sol who just got In,

845
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 2: america spoke very Little, english all. Right and then we

846
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 2: had a bunch of young guys like Strom Off swift

847
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 2: and J willrow And Brevin, knight like those guys like

848
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 2: they wanted to. Win they don't get their ass. Bustid

849
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,839
Speaker 2: jay Will is coming From sacramento and and you, know

850
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 2: and so we just started doing the right, things and

851
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 2: we started staying. Late we didn't point, fingers and we

852
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 2: stopped making excuses and so like the guys that were

853
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 2: on the, fence they actually started like behaving like like

854
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 2: a good. Culture and then the malcontents kind of like

855
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 2: self selected themselves. Out and so that's how we change the.

856
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 2: Culture and so When hube came, in that was a

857
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 2: huge part of. It he came in like ten games

858
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 2: into the, seasons like we're going back to two. Days

859
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 2: it would never fly. Today so we went back to

860
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 2: two days because like we had to get all the

861
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:05,439
Speaker 2: bad habits out of our.

862
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 3: Organization that's.

863
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 2: Gangs and so you guys would love. THIS nba back

864
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 2: to backs usually have brunch on second, day and he was, like,

865
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 2: nope going to the.

866
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 1: Gym in the.

867
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 2: Gym so we went to shoot around every day on the.

868
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 2: Road all, right.

869
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: Even if you come here one in the, morning if.

870
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 2: We have one o'clock bust at. Nine, Yeah so you

871
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 2: can imagine all these veterans being like but it was

872
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 2: about like, discipline and it was about, like, look we're,

873
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 2: professionals and you always gave Us sunday. Off if Not Sunday,

874
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 2: monday stay with your. FAMILY i, mean he really changed

875
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 2: the culture and gave us something to believe. In he's, like, look,

876
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 2: guys you know we're gonna get our ass busted this.

877
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 2: Year i'm not gonna lie next year, next but next

878
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 2: Year we're gonna win fifty, games and everyone's, like get

879
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 2: out of. Here, yeah fifty.

880
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: Games, hmmm what was your first impression of oh on the,

881
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: Court like left, hand right hands off the.

882
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 2: Power powell Killed Big. Country he killed. Him. Literally we

883
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 2: were playing our first pickup Game Big Country. Readers he

884
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 2: had back. Problem he, was you, know a, handful And

885
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 2: Big country read got mashed up Against POW's about this, Then,

886
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 2: yeah Stik fis is just dunking on, him bucking a.

887
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 2: Shot and after the, day we never Saw Big country.

888
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 2: Again literally never came. There ended his. Career But pg

889
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 2: he was so, Skilled he was so, skilled and he

890
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 2: was super. Long but he was an unbelievable. Teammate AND

891
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 2: i was there In springfield this year to support. Him

892
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 2: but he always cared about his. Teammates he always wanted

893
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 2: to do the right. Thing he always wanted to, win

894
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 2: and he was an amazing. Competitor and he was the

895
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 2: face of our team WHEN i was there In memphis

896
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 2: five years and we never got swept in the playoffs

897
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 2: three straight, years and so he took a lot of

898
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 2: heat about is he the guy to lead? Us but

899
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 2: when he went To la you, know he was WITH

900
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 2: covid and it was a different story for. Him but you,

901
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 2: know but he was A hall Of. Famer from the

902
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 2: first DAY i saw, HIM i, said this guy is he's.

903
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 2: Different he got, it got it.

904
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,240
Speaker 1: All what was it like to get? Trade your first?

905
00:41:58,239 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 1: Trade you're going To.

906
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 2: Houston being traded is is something that's hard to. Understand

907
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 2: you how many times you traded? Three how many times

908
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 2: you traded sh.

909
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 1: One time he got traded like?

910
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 3: Five yeah a?

911
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 2: Month, Right so and so like there's nothing that like

912
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 2: prepares you for that, moment right because your first emotion

913
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 2: Is i'm someone doesn't want me. Anymore, yeah shout to

914
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 2: you a little, bit you, know, like, man everybody could

915
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 2: have got.

916
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 3: Traded you traded.

917
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 2: Me, Yeah LIKE i gave you, everything, right and, so

918
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 2: LIKE i was in my basketball camp and, UH i

919
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,840
Speaker 2: was having a sponsors dinner and it came across the,

920
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 2: ticker Like Shane battier traded To.

921
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 3: Houston oh ship you found out on going to camp In.

922
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 2: Memphis WAS i was In memphis that night throwing the

923
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 2: camp AND i saw the, cross said the, sponsors excuse,

924
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:50,800
Speaker 2: ME i THINK i just got. TRADED i need to

925
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 2: go figure this, out like holed you know my people, like,

926
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 2: yeah you're head To houston and so damn SO i.

927
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 2: WAS i was, crushed like they got. Me they got

928
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 2: me BECAUSE i THOUGHT i gave everything To memphis And i'm, like,

929
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 2: man but you don't think about like someone is willing

930
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 2: to give up something of value to get, you, Right

931
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 2: so The rockets gave up the draft rights To Rudy

932
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 2: gay and so Like houston was. Pissed SO i get,

933
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 2: like loud Have rudy, game we get. Battier everything's ten

934
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 2: points a, game like people were, hot and uh so

935
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 2: LIKE i had a. Chip SO i had a chip

936
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 2: on my shoulder and it's probably WHAT i needed at the.

937
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 2: Time and so, like first of, all WHENEVER i Played,

938
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:31,800
Speaker 2: RUDY i tried to go at, him you. Know and

939
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 2: so he's a good, dude and like he was LIKE

940
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 2: i got traded back To, memphis AND i Like Rudy's

941
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 2: he's had a great. Career But i'm, LIKE i didn't

942
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 2: even against. ANYONE i, was you, KNOW i was a

943
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 2: defender and he was the one GUY i was trying

944
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 2: TO i was trying to go. Ahead but it's just

945
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 2: a really weirdly weird emotion that you're not prepared.

946
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 1: For when did you like kind of find your niss to, Be,

947
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:58,280
Speaker 1: Like i'm gonna be a. Defender you start studying offensive

948
00:43:58,280 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 1: players the WAY.

949
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 2: I just want to be on the, floor and SO

950
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 2: i WOULD i would do. Anything that's WHY i took

951
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:07,399
Speaker 2: charges and do loose, balls like, okay what WILL i.

952
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 1: Do that no one?

953
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 2: Knows would? Do ye on the basketball. Court and because

954
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 2: remember WHEN i came in the, LEAGUE i was a

955
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 2: four right and my third game IN i played With

956
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 2: Michael dickerson who was our two. Guard SO i was a.

957
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,240
Speaker 2: Three mike d was the two. Guard he has a sports.

958
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,879
Speaker 2: Herney a fifth game man In phoenix and never played.

959
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 2: Again and we were a bad. Team we had no backup,

960
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 2: too so they said you're two. Guard so HERE i

961
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 2: am rookie playing forty minutes a night guardied every two

962
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 2: in the. League, Garden Coke, Garden Ai, Garden Paul, Pierce,

963
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 2: Garden manu you named it like whoever the? Top so

964
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 2: LIKE i, learned LIKE i got my ass, beat BUT i,

965
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 2: Learned and so Like, code my Favorite cob story is

966
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 2: uh And code you, Know may You rest In peace

967
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 2: is only probably like two weeks older than, Me but

968
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:00,080
Speaker 2: like because he went out of. School you, KNOW i

969
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 2: went to school for four. Years it seemed like we

970
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 2: were a different. Agent but he's only two weeks older than.

971
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 2: Me and my rookie, year my rookie. Year HERE i am,

972
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 2: Again duke. BOY i got, HIM i Got.

973
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 1: KOBE i got. IT i got.

974
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 2: It and SO i learned What Kobe island. Is Kobe

975
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 2: island is when you're Guarding Kobe, bryant you turn around

976
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 2: and you've got no help side. Defense you're on an.

977
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 2: Island it's the only place to be this. Cat AND

978
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 2: i didn't know how to guard LIKE i would later.

979
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 2: On he scored sixty three points on me in three.

980
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 2: QUARNERS i, mean The lakers are. Good they're beating us

981
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,439
Speaker 2: so bad that he didn't even play the fourth. Quarter

982
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 2: he for sure would have had, eighty for, sure without a.

983
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 2: Doubt it was In Staples, center And i'm embarrassed because

984
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 2: he just Used and So i'm, like, MAN i gotta

985
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 2: figure this guy. Out i'm gonna see him the next ten, years, hopefully.

986
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 2: Right AND i got to figured this cat.

987
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 1: Out let me ask you, this, what out of everything

988
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 1: you studied on him and, everything what made you decide

989
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: to Like i'm just gonna take, away, right.

990
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 2: You KNOW i did. That it's not for reasons people.

991
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 2: Thought SO i knew statistically What kobe's worst shot, was

992
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 2: and it was a shot off the. Bounce he took

993
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 2: a lot of long twos off the. Dribble he's like

994
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 2: a forty two percent, shooter which is below league. Average,

995
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 2: actually you, know we'll make some legendary his finishing follow

996
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 2: a built you, know fall, drawings three, rows actually decent

997
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 2: three point. Shooter but off the bounce was his worst.

998
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 2: Shot and SO i said to, myself the only CHANCE

999
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 2: i have against this guy is to try to make

1000
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,359
Speaker 2: him take as many dribble jump shots AS i. Can,

1001
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:34,879
Speaker 2: Okay so WHEN i started a stick in my hand

1002
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 2: in the, FACE i also Knew kobe had a bigger

1003
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 2: ego than, anybody and he would go out of his

1004
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 2: way to show that the hand of the face don't,

1005
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,839
Speaker 2: Matter it don't, matter it doesn't affect. Me what's the

1006
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,280
Speaker 2: only way that he can prove to me that this doesn't,

1007
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 2: work that you do it and just keep going the

1008
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 2: shot off the. Bounce so he was doing me a

1009
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 2: favor by trying to prove me wrong that my theory

1010
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 2: and work WHICH i was more than happy to let

1011
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 2: him try to do because he wasn't trying to go

1012
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 2: to the, rack he wasn't trying to get. Fouled SO

1013
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 2: i was just trying to play moneyball with, him, yeah

1014
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 2: and just try to keep him literally to his. Weakness

1015
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 2: and whether he made or missed a.

1016
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 1: SHOT i didn't.

1017
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 2: CARE i literally didn't care if anyone made or missed a.

1018
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 2: Shot WHAT i cared about was where they took that,

1019
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 2: shot how they took that. SHOT i never tripped about

1020
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 2: anybody shooting off the. Bounce it's a hard. Shot it's

1021
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 2: a really hard shot over. Time And i've had games

1022
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 2: where Like carmelo scored fifty on on me and he

1023
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 2: had zero paint, points, zero all off the, Bounce and

1024
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 2: after the game you're, LIKE i tip my, Cap, like.

1025
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: Yeah that's WHAT i used to live with With, Mellow

1026
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 1: just LIKE i gotta live with.

1027
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 3: This just live with.

1028
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:41,320
Speaker 2: It if he's in the, paint it's.

1029
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: Over, Las, YEAH i gotta live with BECAUSE i can't

1030
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:46,320
Speaker 1: give you the rest of this. Stuff.

1031
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, so like you learn as a, defender like what

1032
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 2: to worry, about what not to worry, about and so

1033
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 2: LIKE i did not care about the results at, all

1034
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 2: which is. Hard it's hard because you're getting toasted On

1035
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 2: twitter the roadstay know you can't guard this, guy and

1036
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 2: it's like nd about, that just about like where did

1037
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 2: you make the guy take the? Shot and over the

1038
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,359
Speaker 2: long run you just gotta trust the math can work.

1039
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 4: Out here's WHERE i give you my respect because you

1040
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 4: stayed disciplined at some, point like you, say, WHOEVER i

1041
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 4: don't give a Damn Kobe. Mellows they starting to get

1042
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:20,360
Speaker 4: busy and it's starting to get out of.

1043
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 3: Here i'm about to fuck you.

1044
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 4: Up i'm gonna take one and let you know that

1045
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:26,479
Speaker 4: you ain't tricked me to get.

1046
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 3: Me it wasn't on your. Turn this was on my.

1047
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:30,240
Speaker 3: Turn it's gonna be a good fucking.

1048
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 2: Found it's gonna be want to let you, know to

1049
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 2: chill the fuck, out like you know What i'm, Saying

1050
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 2: LIKE i do. It i'm saying it ain't gonna Be,

1051
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 2: no it's gonna be a fucking hard, fact just like

1052
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 2: everything else ain't.

1053
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 4: Working you know What i'm. Saying sometimes dudes is just too.

1054
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,439
Speaker 4: GOOD i don't care if it Was, paul it was Tam.

1055
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 4: Malu events you start getting too crazy and then you

1056
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:51,720
Speaker 4: know you playing the crowd and all, This i'm starting

1057
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 4: to feel embarrassed and. Offended so NOW i got to

1058
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 4: fuck you up one good, time just to, like all,

1059
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 4: right settle the fuck down or If i'm gonna do,

1060
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 4: it and we gonna see what's, up because.

1061
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 2: Like you going BECAUSE i. Can't CLEARLY i can't do.

1062
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 2: It that's about it right.

1063
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 3: NOW i. Was that's WHY i respect.

1064
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 2: YOU i never tried TO i never you, know you,

1065
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 2: GUYS i didn't talk during. Games, YEAH i didn't, talk all.

1066
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 2: RIGHT i never wanted to piss Off, kobe give him,

1067
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,840
Speaker 2: something give these guys an. Edge oh so LIKE i

1068
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 2: did the. OPPOSITE i always, downplay, like OH i can't

1069
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:27,839
Speaker 2: guard this. Guy yeah, man he's so. Good oh, Man

1070
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 2: i'm lucky to be on the same quart as. Him

1071
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 2: and and so LIKE i knew WHAT i was. DOING

1072
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:36,320
Speaker 2: i didn't need the public. Praise But cob And Mama

1073
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 2: mentality actually wrote a page about, me AND i didn't

1074
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 2: read this until after he, passed and so like WHEN

1075
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 2: i read, it it really his passing really affected me

1076
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 2: BECAUSE i never talked To kobe outside the arena, ever

1077
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 2: not once. Exactly and So i'm getting you, know chills

1078
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 2: right now talking about. Them AND i always THOUGHT i

1079
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 2: had the conversation with like our, battles and it wasn't

1080
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 2: until after he. PASSED i read his page and the mama.

1081
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 2: Mentality they're talking About kobe, stoppers. RIGHT i never SAID

1082
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 2: i was A kobe, stopper. Right you, know that was

1083
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 2: trying to be the human yellow light For, kobe all.

1084
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 2: RIGHT i was trying to pause a little bit. Exactly

1085
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:12,239
Speaker 2: and you know he said in his, book, look no

1086
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 2: one could stop, me, essentially AND i had great muscle

1087
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 2: memory that the hand in the face trick That shane

1088
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 2: used to, do it just didn't. Work all, Right it

1089
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 2: worked a little. Bit but he said something really. Funny he,

1090
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 2: Said shane always down played his ability to play against,

1091
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 2: me AND i saw that a false, humility AND i

1092
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 2: attacked him because of. It, Hmmm And i'm, like he's, right.

1093
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 3: Right, right.

1094
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 2: Right so that like For, kobe that was the game

1095
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 2: within the game within the game that we played with each.

1096
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 2: Other it was like a meta, game like no one

1097
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 2: else knew we were playing this mind game that he

1098
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 2: KNEW i was downplaying, everything AND i knew that he

1099
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 2: thought he had no, weakness and it was like so,

1100
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 2: LIKE i never had that with anybody in, Basketball so

1101
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 2: that was super. Sad obviously when he, passed we could

1102
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,439
Speaker 2: never have that discussion and that we had this game

1103
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 2: that no one else. Played within the, Game, wow tell

1104
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 2: us about like being a.

1105
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 1: Defender how you just got extra technical with? It, yeah

1106
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 1: all the way down to the tel, percentages the areas

1107
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 1: WHERE i shouldn't have him had the, ball with all the,

1108
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 1: scores and, yeah what they find the ring to tell?

1109
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:21,760
Speaker 1: YOU i Know paul when he go, left he stepped

1110
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 1: back every. Time, yeah so sent them. Right, well everybody's got.

1111
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 1: Strength everyone's got a. Weakness, yeah.

1112
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:30,399
Speaker 2: EVERYBODY i don't care who you, are even the great.

1113
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 2: Ones they do something at legal average level or. Lower

1114
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 2: you's got to find out what that. Is, Yeah LIKE

1115
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 2: i never watched. FILM i didn't FEEL i knew a

1116
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 2: guy to the percentile by watching. Film SO i never watched.

1117
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 2: Film BUT i got every percentage of every shot he

1118
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:50,840
Speaker 2: took for his entire, career going, left going, right off the,

1119
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 2: bounce off the catch. Right how many times did he

1120
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 2: get followed going right versus going? Left in the, posts

1121
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 2: go over left, shoulder the right shoulder? Right how often

1122
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 2: is he get fouled. There and SO i can look

1123
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 2: at this huge stack of data THAT i, got AND

1124
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:07,720
Speaker 2: i could isolate in you, know a couple of. Minutes,

1125
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 2: OKAY i gotta just gotta Keep mell out of the,

1126
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 2: paint hopefully going. Right, Okay and that's the game, plan,

1127
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 2: Right and so you learn what's important what's. Not, like,

1128
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 2: look as a, defender when you follow someone put them

1129
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 2: at the, line it's always bad. Answer so even the

1130
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:23,879
Speaker 2: worst three throw shooter sixty, percent that's worth one point

1131
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 2: two points every time they go to the three throw

1132
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:27,240
Speaker 2: line every. Time all, Right they're not doing that anywhere,

1133
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 2: else but maybe you, know at the, rim, Right so

1134
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 2: it's just like finding all these small edges all over

1135
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:35,799
Speaker 2: the court and just exploiting them again and again and.

1136
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 2: Again and it might not show up in a, quarter

1137
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 2: it might not show up in a. Game over the

1138
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 2: course of a of a, season you play the same,

1139
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 2: guy they'll always go towards their. Average always over the

1140
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 2: course of a, lifetime they'll always go towards that. Average

1141
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 2: and So i'm trying to push them towards their their.

1142
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 2: Lesage and so like, AGAIN i was playing the long.

1143
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 2: GAME i wasn't playing for a quarter or AGAIN i

1144
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 2: was playing for a.

1145
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:59,879
Speaker 1: Career, yeah that's different when you get. That they don't

1146
00:52:59,920 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 1: know too many guys that get that deep in technical

1147
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 1: there's a lot of guys that's really that deep and

1148
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 1: technic all the way down to the. Percentage it's a

1149
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 1: lot of guys that just watch a lot of game,

1150
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:11,319
Speaker 1: table watched lead past all the, time and they just

1151
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 1: know what everything is going. On but when you really

1152
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 1: dig and dive into, it that's a whole nother Rem.

1153
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 2: RIGHT a lot of guys don't want they don't want

1154
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 2: to deal with the. NUMBERS i think it's it's, like,

1155
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 2: man it's like school. Again BUT i just saw it,

1156
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 2: like wouldn't you want the answers to the test before

1157
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 2: you took it straight?

1158
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 1: Up?

1159
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 2: Right and that's what it. WAS i have the answers

1160
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 2: to the test BEFORE i take? It, well why why

1161
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 2: WOULDN'T i use it?

1162
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 3: Straight that's what that's definitely did you feel that did

1163
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 3: you feel.

1164
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,319
Speaker 1: That Your houston teams y'all should have went further than

1165
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 1: what y'all, went, like you, know kind of injuries kind

1166
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 1: of came, well like different.

1167
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 2: Situations, yeah so my first year In, houston T mac Y'all,

1168
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 2: Rayfer Luther Head Truck, hayes and we HAD.

1169
00:53:57,960 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 3: I Love.

1170
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 1: Lou you.

1171
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:04,240
Speaker 2: Know we lost in a around one matchup Against utah

1172
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:07,839
Speaker 2: game seven at, home which rarely ever, happens all, Right

1173
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 2: and that's when they had you, Know booze And Memo

1174
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:15,399
Speaker 2: kerr and and De Will. Carol they were good, man

1175
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 2: like really really really good. Team so like he just you,

1176
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:21,840
Speaker 2: know AND i had never been in the. PLAYOFFS i

1177
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 2: NEVER i never won a game till that year in the,

1178
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 2: playoffs and so you always, think, Like i'll be, Back

1179
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 2: we'll be, back you. Know we got next, year and

1180
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 2: next year really never came because we were always hurt

1181
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 2: obviously With yao and his foot problems and T mac

1182
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 2: and so they were never healthy at the same. Time

1183
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 2: and so we had so much talent In, houston, Man

1184
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:42,879
Speaker 2: so we had some really good. Teams we Got Ron

1185
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 2: ron and we got you, Know Bonzie bombond you know

1186
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 2: you've been doing, it you. Know so we had so

1187
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 2: much talent In, houston but we just never put it.

1188
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 2: Together and it's not the one. There we Beat portland

1189
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:56,919
Speaker 2: in the first, round the first TIME i ever got

1190
00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 2: to the second. Round but that's like the one thing

1191
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 2: in my. Career wish we could have.

1192
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 4: Done tell me about like coming back To memphis for

1193
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 4: the second, time and you, know you had been there

1194
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 4: and you were an integral part of like you, know

1195
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 4: changing that culture and getting them any type of culture

1196
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:12,880
Speaker 4: in the. Beginning but like you come back now and

1197
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 4: they got this grid and grind culture where it's you,

1198
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 4: know it's really blue collar fitting the, city and this

1199
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 4: whole city is behind. You got Z, bo you got

1200
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 4: Ta Tony marc or so you, know you got the whole,

1201
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:29,799
Speaker 4: cast the guys it was, There like how was that

1202
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 4: coming back to that team after being there for so

1203
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:33,280
Speaker 4: many years.

1204
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:36,720
Speaker 2: Before we talked about getting traded AND i WAS i was. Pissed,

1205
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 2: okay my wife was actually in bedrest at the time

1206
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 2: with her second, child and SO i get traded back

1207
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:44,879
Speaker 2: To memphis for it all. Started SO i go there

1208
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 2: alone because then it's trade deadline at the end of the.

1209
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 2: Year So i'm sitting there by myself in the one

1210
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 2: one bedroom. Apartment i'm about to be free agent the next,

1211
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 2: summer so you, Know i'm, LIKE i want to play

1212
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 2: well to be a free. Agent but it was great

1213
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 2: to go back to the place WHERE i started and, like,

1214
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 2: look we never won one playoff game WHEN i was

1215
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 2: there over, twelve and so that team was like really.

1216
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 2: GOOD i, mean you talk about bully ball With marcosol

1217
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 2: and Z bo doing, it and he was doing, it you,

1218
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 2: Know ta was locking up. Everything and my, colleague you,

1219
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 2: know just run. Around and So Rudy gay got hurt that,

1220
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 2: year so that they didn't have a small. Forward SO

1221
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 2: i came in to you, know plug, in and we

1222
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:27,839
Speaker 2: got into the eight seed and we were feisty eight,

1223
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 2: seed and The spurs were not happy that they saw.

1224
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 2: Us and so the day we had game, one it

1225
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 2: was a twelve o'clock tip In San, antonio early, game

1226
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 2: first playoff game of the other, weekend AND i ended

1227
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 2: up hitting the shot that won the. Game and so

1228
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 2: my three point like a minute left was the. Difference

1229
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 2: and so to go back To memphis and to hit

1230
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 2: the winning shot and a franchise WHERE i grew, up

1231
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 2: it was like an unbelievable. Day it got. BETTER i

1232
00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:59,839
Speaker 2: was in the locker room, afterwards AND i thought that

1233
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 2: the trainers trying to get me come. Back a few

1234
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 2: beers in the locker room and playoff. Win and so someone, said,

1235
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 2: Hey SHANE a having a. Kid i'm, like, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1236
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:10,799
Speaker 2: yeah held. True i'll be back there a. Second and

1237
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:12,759
Speaker 2: all of a, sudden one of My Steve novak from The,

1238
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 2: spurs comes in and, Said christina just called. Me he's in,

1239
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 2: labor And i'm, like let's. Go and so my brother

1240
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 2: in law drove me To houston and my beautiful Daughter

1241
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 2: louise was born that. Day so you talk about like

1242
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 2: the best day of my, Life i'm, sorry sorry to my, Son,

1243
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 2: zeke but the best day of my life was.

1244
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 1: And.

1245
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 2: Welcoming thank. You, sorry you know what it, is but it.

1246
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 2: WAS i had a great time going back playing For

1247
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 2: lionel and we beat The, spurs lose a triple overtime

1248
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 2: game to The thunder the next, round should have beat,

1249
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 2: them lost to them in game, seven and uh we

1250
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 2: could have been a finals run as an eight.

1251
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 1: Seed, YEAH i remember. That that was a good. Year

1252
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 1: it was good.

1253
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 4: Year how was it when you got the opportunity to

1254
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 4: go come To miami with the heat and you already

1255
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 4: you know What i'm, saying they have already been, assembled

1256
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 4: and you knowing the possibilities that lie, ahead and just

1257
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 4: the guys that you going to team up. With what

1258
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 4: was your mindset going and coming to this.

1259
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 2: Team when they first got, TOGETHER i rolled my eyes,

1260
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 2: Like i'm sure everyone else, There i'm not gonna LIE.

1261
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 3: I had a chance to be on the, team AND

1262
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 3: i still was LIKE i was, LIKE i.

1263
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 2: Roll my, hey this full, Disclosure and if they would

1264
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 2: have Beaten, dallas there's no WAY i would have gone,

1265
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 2: There no. WAY i wasn't ring chasing for the. Team

1266
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 2: BUT i was a free agent for the first time

1267
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 2: in my career in twenty. ELEVEN i never picked my.

1268
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 2: TEAM i signed a six year extension with the grizz

1269
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 2: and So i'd never been a free. Agent they lose To,

1270
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 2: dallas and then SO i KNEW i was either going

1271
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 2: to go To San antonio Or. Miami AND i, Said

1272
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 2: miami sounds kind of.

1273
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 1: Nice definitely.

1274
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 2: Too SO i hadn't won all right for WHAT i

1275
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 2: wanted to do in. LIFE i THOUGHT i had to

1276
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 2: win a championship just BECAUSE i won on every, level

1277
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 2: and so it. WAS i never Thought i'd live In. Miami,

1278
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 2: YEAH i.

1279
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 4: Mean here he is living in Beautiful. Miami so many years.

1280
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:06,920
Speaker 3: Later you.

1281
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 2: LAUGH i mean The gorilla.

1282
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 3: And Coral gab was everybody On.

1283
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 2: Halloween you, think like the reputation of the heat Is

1284
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 2: i'm gonna do nothing but ride a stationary. Bike i'm

1285
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 2: gonna Be land's. Armstrong you come into practice and you

1286
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:22,200
Speaker 2: see these all these, bikes, right and so you're just

1287
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 2: like to the, school all you hear is like the heat,

1288
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 2: culture heat. Culture he and so you think it's, Like

1289
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 2: i'm just going to ride a bike for you, know

1290
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 2: thirty miles a, day and it's, like oh, MAN i

1291
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 2: want to. Hoop and it's, very very different than what

1292
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 2: the perception is on the. Outside you would you agree with.

1293
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 4: That, oh, NO i would, Agree BUT i would agree

1294
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 4: also that some of the STORIES i want to damn,

1295
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 4: right like tell me your your life and your lifestyle

1296
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 4: and changed when you came.

1297
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 2: Here, YEAH i MEAN i. Was i've always been pretty,

1298
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 2: clean but you know you stayed up a little. Straighter

1299
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 2: when you walk in that in that, building you feel.

1300
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 2: Me you feel.

1301
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:54,920
Speaker 4: It it's not, everybody it's not plus for. Everybody that

1302
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 4: would they say when they say this ain't, fairy but

1303
00:59:57,320 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 4: that is a.

1304
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 2: Fact but if you buy, in you do go.

1305
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 1: Here, NO i, Agree but what was the Temperature because

1306
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:07,680
Speaker 1: they just came off of loss in the finals and

1307
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 1: their finals it seemed like D wade And lebron didn't

1308
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 1: figure it out where both of the games got.

1309
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 2: Watered, yeah my, turn your, turn my, turn your turn.

1310
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 2: TURN i don't, know you, know we all saw it.

1311
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 2: Well the climate was AND i had never been a

1312
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 2: part of. This I'm i'm From, detroit So i'm, like you,

1313
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 2: Know i'm pretty. Staid the first thing we do is

1314
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 2: the preseason video, shoot which is In. Miami it's always

1315
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:32,880
Speaker 2: like it's like it is a real video.

1316
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 4: SHOOT i was not used to. That it's like a music. Video,

1317
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 4: yes what? Bro the preseason joint is literally a. Video

1318
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:45,960
Speaker 4: it's like no other way to put, it like a

1319
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:48,440
Speaker 4: music video with the, Team like you gotta wear a

1320
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 4: certain type of, theme and it's a whole situation to

1321
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 4: it in this lights camera action and it's.

1322
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 2: Everything i'm, like what AM i? Doing they they put

1323
01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:02,600
Speaker 2: two polo shirts in my locker And i'm, like, okay it's,

1324
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 2: Cool Like i'll wear this, One like no where them.

1325
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:05,840
Speaker 2: Both i'm, like what.

1326
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 3: Are you talking?

1327
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:08,800
Speaker 2: About Like i'm not a two polo kind of. Guy

1328
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:12,320
Speaker 2: like you, Know i'm From, Burnham, michigan for goodness, Sakes

1329
01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 2: i'm out here And i'm.

1330
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 1: Like what DID i?

1331
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:17,560
Speaker 2: Do what DID i? Do who AM? I but SO

1332
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:19,280
Speaker 2: i wasn't feeling it at, First LIKE i did not

1333
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:22,280
Speaker 2: feel LIKE i belonged. HERE i don't Speak. SPANISH i

1334
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 2: felt like everyone Spuck. SPANISH i felt like an. Idiot

1335
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 2: And i'm, LIKE i made a. MISTAKE i should have

1336
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 2: gone To. SANTONIO i should have Gone San. Antonio and

1337
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 2: JUST i know what that. Is but the guys were always,

1338
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:37,440
Speaker 2: great the guys in the locker, room they really really

1339
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:39,800
Speaker 2: for as much as it was about all this crazy,

1340
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:42,920
Speaker 2: stuff and they were really good dudes and great. Teammates the.

1341
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 2: Climate i'll never forget. This so it was the lockout

1342
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 2: year and so quick training. Camp we opened the Season

1343
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:53,760
Speaker 2: Christmas night In Dallas Ring. Night, okay that's the game

1344
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 2: everyone wanted to. See and Obviously MAVs played great and

1345
01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 2: they earned that. Championship But i'll never. FORGET i never

1346
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 2: forget being in the tunnel and because we don't want

1347
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:04,720
Speaker 2: to see them get their rings and just LIKE i

1348
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 2: could feel the heavy breathing AND i could feel just the.

1349
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 2: Edge you could feel the edge of everyone on that,

1350
01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:15,400
Speaker 2: team from the coaching staff right the pat, RILEY i,

1351
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:19,800
Speaker 2: mean and, like oh we went in this and that's

1352
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 2: WHEN i, Knew i'm, LIKE i made the right. Choice

1353
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 2: we went BECAUSE i had never been a part of

1354
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 2: that team that was that. Hungry we came out that,

1355
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:27,680
Speaker 2: NIGHT i think we were Four hope at night and

1356
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 2: it was, like, okay it's. Home so it Was i'll

1357
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 2: never forget that moment looking.

1358
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 4: Around that was the same season that y'all. Did is

1359
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:37,440
Speaker 4: this when y'all went on the crazy.

1360
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:38,280
Speaker 2: Winds that was next.

1361
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 1: Year so we won the chip Beat Oklahoma.

1362
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 2: City we came. Back it was. Dynamic you, know everywhere we,

1363
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 2: went people were in the.

1364
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:47,200
Speaker 3: Heatles it was the.

1365
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 2: Heatles we'd show up at a hotel In la and

1366
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 2: two o'clock in the morning and there would just be you,

1367
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:54,680
Speaker 2: know fifty sixty people just want to See bron AND

1368
01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:56,920
Speaker 2: d AND cb just want to see him going to

1369
01:02:56,920 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 2: shoot around sixty people. Outside it was. Nuts so we

1370
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 2: had found with. It we knew, that like we, said

1371
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 2: like ignore the, noise what people were saying on the.

1372
01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:05,720
Speaker 2: Outside no matter.

1373
01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 4: How many games did y'all win into winn streak twenty

1374
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:13,040
Speaker 4: seven and tell me how did the now legendary was?

1375
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 3: It was it the one blood light before before the,

1376
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 3: game the.

1377
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:19,560
Speaker 2: Story of that winning. STREAK i get credit for it.

1378
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:21,560
Speaker 4: Because you got a bunch of free. Beers YEAH i,

1379
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:22,840
Speaker 4: DID i did tell me that.

1380
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:28,439
Speaker 2: Story so the winning, streak we had a noon tip

1381
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 2: off In. Toronto you know those, games this, tough tough

1382
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 2: game to, win. Right it was the day Before Super,

1383
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:34,560
Speaker 2: bowl or was the day Of Super, bowl, sorry and

1384
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 2: we all love, football and So brown was gonna get

1385
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 2: a plane and we're because they didn't have A tv

1386
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:40,800
Speaker 2: in the, plane you want to get playing with THE

1387
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 2: tv spek watching the. Game so the heater, like, no, no,

1388
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 2: no let's have a party with. Stakes we got a

1389
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:47,200
Speaker 2: back to back Playing charlotte's next day back In. Miami

1390
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:51,120
Speaker 2: so they did this awesome party at The Real Sports

1391
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:54,480
Speaker 2: bar In, toronto great, place and go all. Out well

1392
01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:56,720
Speaker 2: that was the. Year it was The niners in The

1393
01:03:56,800 --> 01:04:00,160
Speaker 2: ravens and they had that big power outage. Problem AS

1394
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:03,160
Speaker 2: i started drinking The canadian beer and for a, While

1395
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 2: i'm like feeling it AND i take off Like Colin,

1396
01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:09,200
Speaker 2: caper Next jersey off the. Mannequin i'm running around and

1397
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:12,200
Speaker 2: people just like people THOUGHT i was. Crazy they they

1398
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 2: thought it was a. Square but they're, like you, Know,

1399
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:17,560
Speaker 2: shane actually is pretty. Wild and it's on the. Bus

1400
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:20,440
Speaker 2: i'm feeling. It i'm feeling the, group AND i get

1401
01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 2: up AND i start, talking giving a speech LIKE i

1402
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:24,000
Speaker 2: like to do, sometimes and all of a, SUDDEN i

1403
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 2: see the entire bus just turn and look at, me

1404
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:28,520
Speaker 2: And i'm telling them we got to like reach out

1405
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:30,960
Speaker 2: and touch the. WORLD i touched the, people you, know

1406
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:33,200
Speaker 2: not in a weird, way but like through, basketball we

1407
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:35,720
Speaker 2: have a chance to change the, world touch the. People

1408
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 2: and so that became to touch the people's. Speech and after,

1409
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 2: that we won the next twenty six games in a,

1410
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:46,040
Speaker 2: row and we were, rolling absolutely having a great. Time

1411
01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 2: that's when we launched The Harlem shake. Video right uh

1412
01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:53,320
Speaker 2: when WE i mean everybody. Was we were just rolling

1413
01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 2: and so it was like the most fun time to

1414
01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:58,480
Speaker 2: be on AN nba team because we were, good and

1415
01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:00,640
Speaker 2: we knew we were, good and and we were feeling.

1416
01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:04,760
Speaker 1: It then you're doing a championship that second, Year San

1417
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 1: antonio come, in you, know well known. CHAMPS i know

1418
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:12,880
Speaker 1: what they're. Doing they almost lose that. Year, yeah how

1419
01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:16,480
Speaker 1: was it coming off that year Playing San antonio a

1420
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 1: hard series like, that and then coming back the next?

1421
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:21,560
Speaker 2: Year, yeah it was really. Hard that was an unbelievable.

1422
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 2: Series level of basketball that year with The. Spurs unbelievable you,

1423
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:28,840
Speaker 2: know iconic moments With ray shot And tony hits a

1424
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 2: game winner In game one and hit six strees In game.

1425
01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:35,400
Speaker 2: Seven uh so like like but like coming back the

1426
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:38,200
Speaker 2: next year playing that same, team we didn't have the

1427
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 2: same edge we, knew but The spurs. Did so that

1428
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 2: the EDGE i talked about the heat had Against dallas

1429
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:47,800
Speaker 2: that was. Felt we felt, it and so not that

1430
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:50,680
Speaker 2: we weren't, mad but we're just like they wanted it.

1431
01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:53,720
Speaker 4: More tell me, this LIKE i always say when people

1432
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:56,760
Speaker 4: talk about That Ray allen, Shot like to, me it's

1433
01:05:56,840 --> 01:06:00,360
Speaker 4: like it's more than just like, oh like tell me

1434
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 4: from a players, standpoint.

1435
01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:05,720
Speaker 3: Being in that moment and going from.

1436
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:09,280
Speaker 4: Watching the celebration about the start and then like literally

1437
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 4: truthfully in your heart thinking and believing that it's over to,

1438
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:19,080
Speaker 4: complete like you, know like to, see like explain that to,

1439
01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:22,080
Speaker 4: me like how that because LIKE i can't even imagine.

1440
01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:24,800
Speaker 3: A fast away emotions go from like.

1441
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:27,120
Speaker 4: Being so down and then LIKE i want to ask

1442
01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:29,680
Speaker 4: LIKE tp or one of, them like how it goes

1443
01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:33,240
Speaker 4: for them being like then you're gonna explain that to

1444
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:35,760
Speaker 4: me seeing the ropes going around Like i'm seeing this at,

1445
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:36,439
Speaker 4: home we watch.

1446
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:38,800
Speaker 3: It i'm like it's, over like and then like.

1447
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:40,120
Speaker 1: Just, what you, know people.

1448
01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:42,480
Speaker 2: LEFT i was in the game so too on the,

1449
01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:44,960
Speaker 2: bench and So i'm trying to be super, positive you,

1450
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:46,960
Speaker 2: know come, on, y'all come, on like you know how

1451
01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:49,560
Speaker 2: like you, said like you don't really believe. It i'm,

1452
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:52,280
Speaker 2: like come, on, y'all come, on come, on like want,

1453
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:55,800
Speaker 2: stop come, on come on. Now AND i didn't look

1454
01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:58,520
Speaker 2: around too, often but obviously people are leaving the game

1455
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:01,600
Speaker 2: and just, say you had that feeling of like. Finality

1456
01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:04,360
Speaker 2: AND i don't know if people were, rationalizing like what

1457
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:06,080
Speaker 2: are you going to say in the media after the

1458
01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:09,439
Speaker 2: game and you are making excuses and who's getting, blamed

1459
01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:13,360
Speaker 2: whos getting? Traded BUT i think because we went through

1460
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:17,040
Speaker 2: so much adversity starting With dallas the year, before you,

1461
01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:19,600
Speaker 2: know finally getting over the hump with The, thunder we

1462
01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:23,120
Speaker 2: had a really strong, team strong, culture and we believed

1463
01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:25,600
Speaker 2: and you, know it helps have the best, player you,

1464
01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:29,160
Speaker 2: know and we're in the, world you, know in, uniform

1465
01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:32,200
Speaker 2: and so we came out of that, huddle you, Know,

1466
01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:34,800
Speaker 2: lebron this is the first shot we get the rebound

1467
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 2: and makes the second. One it was. Deep it was

1468
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:39,120
Speaker 2: no one talks about that. Three the one Before, ray

1469
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:41,160
Speaker 2: it was, big it was. Deep we got a. Chance

1470
01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:43,160
Speaker 2: we got a, chance and then when we came down

1471
01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:46,880
Speaker 2: it happened so fast that it was hard to. Process

1472
01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 2: BUT i remember being on the bench and missed the,

1473
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:53,920
Speaker 2: SHOT cb got the, board threw it out and Like

1474
01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:57,200
Speaker 2: ray is such a. Technician like people are just, like

1475
01:07:57,200 --> 01:07:58,840
Speaker 2: how do you do? It it's like It's ray L,

1476
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:01,000
Speaker 2: like of course you can do it. Right if you

1477
01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:02,200
Speaker 2: ever saw him, shoot.

1478
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:06,080
Speaker 4: You're like it wasn't like the best part was Like

1479
01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:09,520
Speaker 4: ray was like. Races like we talked about How ray,

1480
01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 4: Was LIKE i, said to shot a million, Times that's

1481
01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:12,640
Speaker 4: What i'm. Saying he was, Like i've. Done he was,

1482
01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 4: like set my. Feet he's like THAT'S i work on

1483
01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 4: it every. DAY i know how to get my feet.

1484
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:19,160
Speaker 4: Said he was like everything was just boom boom.

1485
01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:25,639
Speaker 2: Boom but when that ball left his, Hand i'm, like it's.

1486
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:30,120
Speaker 2: GOOD i go, oh that's ALL i, Say.

1487
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:31,400
Speaker 1: Like what just?

1488
01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 2: Happened and so they missed a shot like people forget

1489
01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 2: like they could have.

1490
01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:36,639
Speaker 3: WON i missed.

1491
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:40,240
Speaker 2: One, yeah just sending the regulation and you know at that,

1492
01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:42,639
Speaker 2: point you're, like we're team of. Destiny, yeah we can't

1493
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:46,840
Speaker 2: lose this, game and played great overtime one and we

1494
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:49,680
Speaker 2: knew Like santonio came, back and like that's a devastating.

1495
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:53,679
Speaker 2: Loss you're going from yellow ropes To game seven on the, road,

1496
01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:57,320
Speaker 2: crazy and they gave us everything they. Could, man they

1497
01:08:57,320 --> 01:08:58,920
Speaker 2: were winning most of the. Game and let me.

1498
01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 1: Ask, you tell us like the mental and the physical

1499
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:05,200
Speaker 1: that you have to go to to go all the

1500
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:07,479
Speaker 1: way to a finals three years in a.

1501
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:09,960
Speaker 2: Row, yeah, well you don't turn it. On you don't

1502
01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:12,320
Speaker 2: turn it. On you, know it starts like in the.

1503
01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:16,160
Speaker 2: Summer you understand it's a, journey, right and so when

1504
01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:18,400
Speaker 2: you have a really really good, team a championship, team

1505
01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:20,840
Speaker 2: you know you're not tripping over the small. Things it's

1506
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:23,280
Speaker 2: almost like a maturity to that. Team and you know

1507
01:09:23,320 --> 01:09:25,559
Speaker 2: it's a long, haul so you're not. Trippling you lost

1508
01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:27,080
Speaker 2: three in a, row four in a, row all, right,

1509
01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:30,479
Speaker 2: guys let's and so you just build that habit of

1510
01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:33,040
Speaker 2: like just. Resiliency all, right let's do what we, do

1511
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:35,439
Speaker 2: because once you get in the, playoffs you're not someone.

1512
01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:37,960
Speaker 2: New you are who you. Are the work's already been, done,

1513
01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 2: right but you got to be the best version of.

1514
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:44,040
Speaker 2: Yourself and that's just a habit and understanding how long

1515
01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:45,960
Speaker 2: it is not getting too high and not getting too.

1516
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:50,439
Speaker 2: Low but it's like, okay time we're tested and we

1517
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:51,240
Speaker 2: got to be ready for.

1518
01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:53,880
Speaker 4: It tell me this, Though like tell me how? Much

1519
01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:56,679
Speaker 4: because listen and all of. THAT i can only think

1520
01:09:56,720 --> 01:10:01,720
Speaker 4: about spoke talk about how AND i know his intensity

1521
01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:03,840
Speaker 4: is you know What i'm, Saying, like talk about how

1522
01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:07,960
Speaker 4: his relentlessness and how much that impacted that because he's.

1523
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:08,920
Speaker 1: Relentless you know What i'm.

1524
01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:11,040
Speaker 3: Saying he don't. Care bo don't.

1525
01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:12,960
Speaker 4: Care he don't care if you, mad if you, mad

1526
01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:15,080
Speaker 4: if the guy is, mad, bow don't give a. Fuck

1527
01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:19,040
Speaker 4: he got one thing is we're trying to. WIN i

1528
01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:21,240
Speaker 4: had time for whoever feeld. HAVE i don't give a.

1529
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:24,080
Speaker 4: Fuck and he gonna so like talk about how much

1530
01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:26,000
Speaker 4: he impacted that tenacity and.

1531
01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:33,960
Speaker 2: That, yeah that outlook super super. Intense obviously, guy everything is.

1532
01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:36,720
Speaker 2: Vigorous but like doesn't get enough credit for that. Group

1533
01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:39,519
Speaker 2: that's a hard, group all. Right you walk in that locker.

1534
01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:41,880
Speaker 2: Room you got hall of, famers you, know and even

1535
01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:45,720
Speaker 2: guys Like Rashard lewis me like we've been, around so you.

1536
01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:48,200
Speaker 2: Can't you can't b s. Us all, right if you

1537
01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:50,960
Speaker 2: don't come, correct we're gonna call you and. Spo to his,

1538
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:53,800
Speaker 2: credit was always. Prepared he was always, prepared which is

1539
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:56,799
Speaker 2: number one for coach if you're dealing with great players

1540
01:10:56,800 --> 01:11:00,519
Speaker 2: who have. Ideas if you're not, prepared you're. Gone so

1541
01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:05,400
Speaker 2: and he talked about mental stability actually ironically and having

1542
01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:08,240
Speaker 2: it and practicing, it and so he didn't really and

1543
01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:11,920
Speaker 2: now He's eric. Spoke back, then he wasn't. Spoke you

1544
01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:15,600
Speaker 2: know What i'm, Saying like he's spell. Now he was

1545
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:19,120
Speaker 2: trying to figure it. Out, yeah BUT i give him

1546
01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:21,600
Speaker 2: a lot of credit for dealing with the egos in the,

1547
01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:26,240
Speaker 2: room still stay true to his. Convictions and He's hall Of.

1548
01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:29,120
Speaker 4: Famer now that's the one THING i got mad respect

1549
01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:32,080
Speaker 4: for him for because that year that they, lost it

1550
01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:35,960
Speaker 4: was all type of Rumors pat comeback and this that and,

1551
01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:38,599
Speaker 4: third and to pack, Credit pat had his back.

1552
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:38,960
Speaker 3: And held him.

1553
01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:43,360
Speaker 4: Down and to expose credit LIKE i, mean anybody knows

1554
01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:44,720
Speaker 4: he was never not a.

1555
01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:45,760
Speaker 2: Worker that's what he.

1556
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:47,880
Speaker 4: Was he was gonna put his damn head down and

1557
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:49,960
Speaker 4: work his ass off and that was what you couldn't

1558
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:52,400
Speaker 4: do nothing but respect about. It WHEN i look back

1559
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:54,559
Speaker 4: at because you, know my year there was like his

1560
01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:56,840
Speaker 4: second years. Ago so you know What i'm, saying like

1561
01:11:56,880 --> 01:11:59,880
Speaker 4: he was and you could, see, like like you, said

1562
01:11:59,880 --> 01:12:04,000
Speaker 4: that Wasn't we've seen people fold under that type of

1563
01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:06,439
Speaker 4: pressure with those type of players and those type of.

1564
01:12:06,479 --> 01:12:09,240
Speaker 4: Expectations and then you got Big pat sitting in the

1565
01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:11,880
Speaker 4: big it was that was a fucking lot to deal.

1566
01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:14,479
Speaker 4: With and so to see him handle that and they you,

1567
01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:16,960
Speaker 4: know our knew players that were here to hear about

1568
01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:21,360
Speaker 4: how things were being handled like, stupid respectful spoke people.

1569
01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:24,320
Speaker 2: Forget so the year before our first, championship we're down

1570
01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:28,080
Speaker 2: three to two At Boston game, six eat your conference.

1571
01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:31,920
Speaker 2: Finals so that's a big. Ticket you're crazy and Ag

1572
01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:35,040
Speaker 2: so like we, knew we knew we lose that. Game

1573
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:38,080
Speaker 2: we all have new addresses next. Year you, know there

1574
01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:40,920
Speaker 2: are articles on the paper that day, saying, okay The heat.

1575
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:43,320
Speaker 2: Lose who's the first to? Go so we, knew we.

1576
01:12:43,439 --> 01:12:47,320
Speaker 2: Knew lebron goes out and you know went crazy. Goals

1577
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:51,360
Speaker 2: the lists come back Be Boston game, seven tough, games

1578
01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:54,880
Speaker 2: championship and so like people are, like oh, yeah of

1579
01:12:54,880 --> 01:12:56,800
Speaker 2: course the, heat we're gonna win. It but, like to

1580
01:12:56,840 --> 01:12:58,439
Speaker 2: be a true, champion you got to be pushed to

1581
01:12:58,560 --> 01:13:01,160
Speaker 2: like the absolute. Element and we did that two years

1582
01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:03,439
Speaker 2: In Old boston And San, antonio and that's what makes

1583
01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:04,120
Speaker 2: it that much.

1584
01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:09,880
Speaker 4: Sweeter i'm not the Biggest duke, fan but, okay come,

1585
01:13:09,920 --> 01:13:13,080
Speaker 4: on like what you're doing right. Now so you're not

1586
01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:16,240
Speaker 4: the Biggest duke. Fan you Weren't duke. Fans i'm not

1587
01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:19,400
Speaker 4: a du. Fan i'm not the biggest dude. Fan like

1588
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:21,439
Speaker 4: if you say you're not the biggest dude fan and

1589
01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:22,040
Speaker 4: you're still a.

1590
01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:22,400
Speaker 2: Fan.

1591
01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:25,800
Speaker 1: THOUGH i got guys that came d LIKE i Like,

1592
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:28,120
Speaker 1: KYRIE i Like cory MCGE i LIKE i like all

1593
01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:31,519
Speaker 1: those guys Like, DUKE i Like. Carlos i'm not the

1594
01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:36,080
Speaker 1: Biggest duke. Fan but a big moment in basketball that

1595
01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:38,600
Speaker 1: was a dope MOMENT i felt For duke was the

1596
01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:40,960
Speaker 1: moment where he had all the former players come back

1597
01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:44,200
Speaker 1: to his last. Game how was that? Experience if you

1598
01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:46,160
Speaker 1: let me say my, questions then it'll be all. Right

1599
01:13:46,439 --> 01:13:51,200
Speaker 1: so how was that for you to experience? That because

1600
01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:53,840
Speaker 1: it was dope to see on the outside looking in

1601
01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:57,360
Speaker 1: and to see what you're a part. Of another, question

1602
01:13:57,520 --> 01:14:02,320
Speaker 1: what does it mean to be affiliated a? Dukery you,

1603
01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:06,440
Speaker 1: know To Dukie, DUKIE i don't even know.

1604
01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:10,280
Speaker 2: That we're in a room like this big and you

1605
01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:14,000
Speaker 2: look around and you See Grant, hill you See Bobby hurle,

1606
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:16,920
Speaker 2: that you See Jay, will you see everyone who's done,

1607
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:20,919
Speaker 2: it done it. Done you know when you're, like remember

1608
01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:24,760
Speaker 2: like us growing, up you're, like, man LIKE i hope one,

1609
01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:28,519
Speaker 2: day LIKE i do. It you, know we don't know

1610
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:29,880
Speaker 2: what it takes until you actually do.

1611
01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:30,200
Speaker 1: It you.

1612
01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:32,280
Speaker 2: Know now it's, like, okay yeah it was, obvious big

1613
01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:34,559
Speaker 2: shooting for long and we're pretty. Good but you just

1614
01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:36,640
Speaker 2: have an appreciation for all the people who do it

1615
01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:39,720
Speaker 2: at a high, level right under the, pressure under the.

1616
01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:44,400
Speaker 2: Lights and for me going To duke with the, tradition

1617
01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:47,040
Speaker 2: that's WHY i went To. DUKE i wanted to do

1618
01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:50,400
Speaker 2: What Johnny dawkins. DID i wanted to do What Grant hill.

1619
01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:52,880
Speaker 2: DID i wanted not only to uphold that, TRADITION i

1620
01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:55,439
Speaker 2: wanted to be the next person in that. Line and

1621
01:14:55,479 --> 01:14:58,320
Speaker 2: then When Jason tatum comes behind, me When kyrie comes behind,

1622
01:14:58,360 --> 01:15:00,240
Speaker 2: me they see me as an old. HEAD i don't

1623
01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:01,519
Speaker 2: say That i'm going to be part of. That you,

1624
01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:04,560
Speaker 2: know that's, special you, know and we all hope and

1625
01:15:04,720 --> 01:15:06,640
Speaker 2: athletics and in life that we're part of something that

1626
01:15:06,680 --> 01:15:09,479
Speaker 2: means something that, yeah you know WHAT i put the work.

1627
01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:11,800
Speaker 2: In i'm part of this fraternity and that's the cool.

1628
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:15,639
Speaker 1: Part that was crazy to witness and, see even though

1629
01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:17,640
Speaker 1: you ain't see one that, GAME i know that was

1630
01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:20,880
Speaker 1: that was. Sad, yeah but to see all y'all on the,

1631
01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:22,920
Speaker 1: court all y'all come out and see them faces and

1632
01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:25,320
Speaker 1: see the group you. With you usually see that on

1633
01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:28,080
Speaker 1: the wall with all the name but to have everybody

1634
01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:28,320
Speaker 1: in the.

1635
01:15:28,360 --> 01:15:30,799
Speaker 2: Building you'll never see the, Game you'll never see crazy

1636
01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:34,479
Speaker 2: like that again, again and we appreciated that.

1637
01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:35,160
Speaker 3: MOMENT i was.

1638
01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:38,280
Speaker 1: Looking back on your career and you the one on

1639
01:15:38,479 --> 01:15:41,920
Speaker 1: every level that you can win. On it's only a

1640
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:44,400
Speaker 1: few in the history of the game that they one

1641
01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:47,920
Speaker 1: on every. Level looking back on, it do you go

1642
01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:50,400
Speaker 1: through the memories of all the way from high school

1643
01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:54,519
Speaker 1: winning them championships to college and THE nba experiences.

1644
01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:57,040
Speaker 2: You had super grateful first of all to have amazing.

1645
01:15:57,080 --> 01:16:00,160
Speaker 2: Teammates if you't have great, teams, right just ALL i

1646
01:16:00,200 --> 01:16:01,640
Speaker 2: was part of great, Team LIKE i THINK i was

1647
01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:03,680
Speaker 2: had a good role on those, teams and it was

1648
01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:06,360
Speaker 2: a large part of those. Teams BUT i had amazing,

1649
01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:10,640
Speaker 2: teammates amazing coaches to be on the journey. With and

1650
01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:13,280
Speaker 2: that's why we, play, Man that's why we play to.

1651
01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:15,000
Speaker 1: Win how your trophy case look?

1652
01:16:15,120 --> 01:16:15,320
Speaker 3: Like you?

1653
01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:18,559
Speaker 1: Got used to go to your trophies from like high.

1654
01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:21,240
Speaker 2: SCHOOL i got some big ones in high. SCHOOL i

1655
01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:24,680
Speaker 2: don't Think mexico. Anymore but you know that was a

1656
01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:30,240
Speaker 2: humble bag right. There Mom's mom's got back in back In, Birmingham.

1657
01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:35,920
Speaker 2: MICHIGAN i got the real. Deal you did a nice

1658
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:39,280
Speaker 2: job my trophy. Case So i'm very proud of the.

1659
01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:41,240
Speaker 2: Collection but it's not about the.

1660
01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:44,920
Speaker 4: Trophies tell me this, though like things Like kobe mentioning

1661
01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:47,160
Speaker 4: you in the book about your defending like you, know

1662
01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:50,320
Speaker 4: making defensive, Teams like how much pride do you taking those?

1663
01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:53,639
Speaker 3: Things because like we, played we. Knowed like to.

1664
01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:56,559
Speaker 4: Win any kind of award in THE nba is a

1665
01:16:56,680 --> 01:17:00,600
Speaker 4: huge deal because this is the best period doing it

1666
01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:04,040
Speaker 4: in the world and be acknowledged that you were one of.

1667
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:06,160
Speaker 3: Those best out of the, Best like that's a.

1668
01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:08,439
Speaker 4: Big deal and you did it multiple, times and that's

1669
01:17:08,520 --> 01:17:11,600
Speaker 4: like your identity as a player and you known and

1670
01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:14,280
Speaker 4: revered as, That, like does how much pride that you taking? It,

1671
01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:17,240
Speaker 4: because like you talked about, it you came in playing

1672
01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:19,479
Speaker 4: powerful and not being able to do, it so.

1673
01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:20,720
Speaker 3: You kind of learned those things on the.

1674
01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:23,599
Speaker 4: Fly so like that's the accolading itself to blossom into

1675
01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:26,680
Speaker 4: that when you yourself were, Unsure, like how do you

1676
01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:27,320
Speaker 4: look back at?

1677
01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:31,920
Speaker 2: It from that, Standpoint i'm super. PROUD i never that's

1678
01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:35,320
Speaker 2: his true. STORY i never saw Any articlaus in, blog

1679
01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:38,160
Speaker 2: any picture and thought that was. ME i thought it

1680
01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:42,000
Speaker 2: was like some other dude swear. Toy it was always somebody.

1681
01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:44,840
Speaker 2: Else AND i was always SCARED i had imposter. Syndrome

1682
01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:49,080
Speaker 2: they're gonna find OUT i can't. Play, no that was my,

1683
01:17:49,160 --> 01:17:52,200
Speaker 2: fear that they're gonna find Out i'm a, Fraud like

1684
01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:54,400
Speaker 2: they're gonna take all this stuff. Away and SO i was,

1685
01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:58,240
Speaker 2: LIKE i, was, man you talk about just work because

1686
01:17:58,240 --> 01:18:00,479
Speaker 2: you were scared that was? Me, Yeah AND i NEVER

1687
01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:03,479
Speaker 2: i never THOUGHT i was that dude ever. Ever, EVER

1688
01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:06,360
Speaker 2: i don't know if that was where that came. From

1689
01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:08,800
Speaker 2: my parents were super humble, people and my mom always

1690
01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:10,800
Speaker 2: told me to tell me there's always someone better than,

1691
01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:13,519
Speaker 2: you AND i respected. That so looking back at it

1692
01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:15,400
Speaker 2: now And i'm a high school coach, NOW i coach my,

1693
01:18:15,479 --> 01:18:18,320
Speaker 2: son and you, KNOW i just want him to know

1694
01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:21,120
Speaker 2: how good he, is, yeah and give him the confidence

1695
01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:24,640
Speaker 2: that like my parents did THAT i never. Had and

1696
01:18:24,680 --> 01:18:26,360
Speaker 2: So i'm just super grateful of my career and my

1697
01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:29,200
Speaker 2: run and just every DREAM i ever had in this

1698
01:18:29,320 --> 01:18:30,040
Speaker 2: game came.

1699
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:32,479
Speaker 1: True when did you fall in love with? Defense when

1700
01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:33,559
Speaker 1: did like who taught?

1701
01:18:33,640 --> 01:18:33,800
Speaker 3: You?

1702
01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:33,920
Speaker 2: Like?

1703
01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:38,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, like oh? Defense is it all the guys that? Shooting,

1704
01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:40,760
Speaker 1: yeah you got some of them guys that be on the,

1705
01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:42,680
Speaker 1: court be, like, NO i want to go out all

1706
01:18:42,760 --> 01:18:43,920
Speaker 1: the best player first.

1707
01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:46,600
Speaker 2: Grade you, KNOW i was foot on everybody, else SO

1708
01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:48,599
Speaker 2: i blocked everyone. SHOTS i was always a good shot.

1709
01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:51,880
Speaker 2: Blocker i'm an UNDERRATED nba shot. Blocker WHEN i, RETIRED

1710
01:18:51,880 --> 01:18:54,640
Speaker 2: i was number one hundred all times block. SHOT i

1711
01:18:54,640 --> 01:18:58,599
Speaker 2: ever think THAT i was shot blocker for someone who's

1712
01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:02,800
Speaker 2: always said he was on too. Unathletic, no, look. MAN

1713
01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:05,720
Speaker 2: i grew up In, Birmingham. MICHIGAN i grew up, mixed

1714
01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:07,680
Speaker 2: tall and. Poor, allright was the only kid in. TOWN

1715
01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:10,160
Speaker 2: i had a black, dad white. MOM i had no role,

1716
01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:12,599
Speaker 2: models no one looked like. Me no one could. RELATE

1717
01:19:14,080 --> 01:19:16,800
Speaker 2: i was super, tall foot on everybody. Else they all

1718
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:19,559
Speaker 2: thought that you, know flunked a few. Grades all. RIGHT

1719
01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:21,760
Speaker 2: i was. POOR i didn't have, anything all. RIGHT i had,

1720
01:19:21,800 --> 01:19:24,040
Speaker 2: nothing you, know iron on patches of my. Jeans and

1721
01:19:24,080 --> 01:19:27,360
Speaker 2: so the only place THAT i ever felt at home

1722
01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:30,840
Speaker 2: was a. Recess and WHEN i helped my team win

1723
01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:34,400
Speaker 2: by blocking everyone, shot my friends wanted me. Around they didn't.

1724
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:35,760
Speaker 2: CARRY i was. MIXED i didn't. CARRY i was, POOR

1725
01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:38,519
Speaker 2: i Didn't carroll was freakily, tall, right and so LIKE

1726
01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:40,720
Speaker 2: i learned it WHEN i was in. Kindergarten like, man

1727
01:19:40,720 --> 01:19:43,680
Speaker 2: WHEN i, win people like, me, Right and so my

1728
01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:46,200
Speaker 2: entire life has been about how DO i make my team?

1729
01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:48,880
Speaker 2: Better and that's from just trying to fit. In my

1730
01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:50,760
Speaker 2: defense came FROM i just want to fit. IN i

1731
01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:52,120
Speaker 2: want to BE i just want to be. Loved and

1732
01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:55,080
Speaker 2: it sounds, weird but like get out there and play. Hard, yeah,

1733
01:19:55,439 --> 01:19:57,000
Speaker 2: yeah ask you.

1734
01:19:57,120 --> 01:20:00,240
Speaker 1: This you, know players get to the league and you

1735
01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:02,599
Speaker 1: know they we signed With jordan and some guys signed

1736
01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:05,439
Speaker 1: with the d to, somebody how did you get the

1737
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:06,519
Speaker 1: oak was The oakley?

1738
01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:10,600
Speaker 3: Deal how did you Get WHEN i saw you in

1739
01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:14,400
Speaker 3: the Magazine Weird joys you had THE.

1740
01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:17,040
Speaker 2: I never THOUGHT i would Wear oakley. Shoes it's not

1741
01:20:17,080 --> 01:20:20,960
Speaker 2: something you do, about. Right and at the, Time nike

1742
01:20:21,080 --> 01:20:24,200
Speaker 2: wasn't really paying a lot of, players you, know so they, Said,

1743
01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:26,280
Speaker 2: sha we love, you we love you in the, stable

1744
01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:28,679
Speaker 2: we'll give, you give me some. Merch i'm like that's,

1745
01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:30,960
Speaker 2: Great like that's.

1746
01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:31,920
Speaker 3: Great so that's.

1747
01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:34,720
Speaker 2: Great and then my friends With oakley, said we're thinking

1748
01:20:34,680 --> 01:20:36,640
Speaker 2: about low from the shoe and we'll pay you in

1749
01:20:36,680 --> 01:20:39,360
Speaker 2: The american. DOLLARS i, said, Well i'm also a, capitalist

1750
01:20:39,439 --> 01:20:42,960
Speaker 2: SO i know as much AS i love The nike took.

1751
01:20:43,040 --> 01:20:45,680
Speaker 2: THEM i, said you, know with this, STEAL i can

1752
01:20:45,720 --> 01:20:47,160
Speaker 2: Buy nike gear that's even.

1753
01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:50,160
Speaker 3: Better took The chronicles of, riding and.

1754
01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:55,080
Speaker 2: If you know, Me i'll try. Anything so the shoes

1755
01:20:55,080 --> 01:20:57,679
Speaker 2: didn't make, it but, LIKE i have my own shoe

1756
01:20:57,800 --> 01:21:04,080
Speaker 2: And i'll wear. It AND i wore that led me

1757
01:21:04,160 --> 01:21:05,840
Speaker 2: to go To china WHEN i played for The, rockets

1758
01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:07,599
Speaker 2: AND i Wore chinese basketball SHOOT i was the first

1759
01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:09,320
Speaker 2: got to Wear. Peak you see peak now if you

1760
01:21:09,360 --> 01:21:11,840
Speaker 2: got the. League SO i Wore peak basketball shootes for

1761
01:21:11,840 --> 01:21:15,439
Speaker 2: ten years And i'm way more famous In china THAN

1762
01:21:15,439 --> 01:21:18,000
Speaker 2: i am In, america just just just by the wrong.

1763
01:21:18,120 --> 01:21:20,240
Speaker 2: Numbers so LIKE i tell people LIKE i have them

1764
01:21:20,240 --> 01:21:23,880
Speaker 2: own commercials In. China, shoot, yes it was, great was.

1765
01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:27,200
Speaker 2: GREAT i loved. It, Yeah i'm not afraid to go

1766
01:21:27,240 --> 01:21:28,599
Speaker 2: outside the box when it comes.

1767
01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:31,679
Speaker 1: To straight, up if you had four other players out

1768
01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:34,320
Speaker 1: of all the teammates that you play, with to make

1769
01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:38,480
Speaker 1: a five man so y'all to go against.

1770
01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:40,400
Speaker 3: Keep me to the league or you're going With duke.

1771
01:21:40,479 --> 01:21:44,600
Speaker 1: Too now the, league just, league just the. League teammates

1772
01:21:44,880 --> 01:21:46,479
Speaker 1: in their prime in the primer WHEN i play with

1773
01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:48,840
Speaker 1: them in the, prime, okay all the players and they

1774
01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:53,680
Speaker 1: prime for other. Players you gotta add yourself to the.

1775
01:21:53,680 --> 01:21:54,400
Speaker 1: Tame this is.

1776
01:21:54,479 --> 01:21:57,479
Speaker 2: Hard i'm sure it's gonna go borrow WHEN i say,

1777
01:21:57,520 --> 01:22:03,280
Speaker 2: this it's gonna be lebron. Y'allol AND i gotta go

1778
01:22:03,479 --> 01:22:07,559
Speaker 2: d W a With tamac off the. Bench that's, hard

1779
01:22:07,680 --> 01:22:13,320
Speaker 2: he got that's, hard, y'all. Y'all and For hall of

1780
01:22:13,360 --> 01:22:17,320
Speaker 2: famers in The hall Of, famer off the, Bench i'm

1781
01:22:17,360 --> 01:22:19,519
Speaker 2: rolling that spot against, anybody you, know against the.

1782
01:22:19,560 --> 01:22:22,479
Speaker 4: Monsters it's gonna. Be we're gonna have a recognized here's

1783
01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:22,880
Speaker 4: been some.

1784
01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:28,200
Speaker 1: Contestants, okay put that team up start bench, Trade, okay

1785
01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:33,439
Speaker 1: who do you? Start who do you Mane tam mac

1786
01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:40,240
Speaker 1: k d, Oh Dominique.

1787
01:22:40,280 --> 01:22:47,120
Speaker 2: WILKINS i gotta Start katie because he's like the third greatest.

1788
01:22:47,120 --> 01:22:51,519
Speaker 2: PLAYER i had a guard matter respect for kat bench

1789
01:22:51,600 --> 01:22:54,479
Speaker 2: team actors Because katie is in the conversation And i'll Trade.

1790
01:22:54,520 --> 01:22:57,559
Speaker 1: Nick nick didn't.

1791
01:22:57,320 --> 01:22:59,960
Speaker 2: Shoot well enough to get a. Spot you just SAY

1792
01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:03,519
Speaker 2: A kd was the third who was the. First Two

1793
01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:10,320
Speaker 2: the TOUGHEST i ever had to guard Were Kobe LEBRON. Kd,

1794
01:23:10,760 --> 01:23:16,280
Speaker 2: Okay kobe because he was mentally, MENTALLY i, mean look

1795
01:23:16,479 --> 01:23:19,040
Speaker 2: LIKE i Caught lebron before he, shoot like you got

1796
01:23:19,040 --> 01:23:21,000
Speaker 2: To miami and learn to, Shoot like before he just

1797
01:23:21,040 --> 01:23:22,360
Speaker 2: put his head down and just try to run you.

1798
01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:24,120
Speaker 2: Over so like if you got to, step it's. Over

1799
01:23:24,160 --> 01:23:26,040
Speaker 2: he can't do nothing about. It right when he gets

1800
01:23:26,040 --> 01:23:28,720
Speaker 2: downhill in. Transition he's the greatest transition player of all. Time,

1801
01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:32,320
Speaker 2: Right SO i caught him before he really could, shoot

1802
01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:34,680
Speaker 2: so you gap him and you could bait him into

1803
01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:38,680
Speaker 2: those those those long you, know Bron bron fadeaway. Jumpers you,

1804
01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:41,479
Speaker 2: KNOW i think he's much better. Shooter. Now look But

1805
01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:44,000
Speaker 2: kobe just, MENTALLY i, mean just when you play like

1806
01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:45,519
Speaker 2: in a conference for a long. TIME i don't know

1807
01:23:45,520 --> 01:23:47,639
Speaker 2: how you guys feel about, this but like you see

1808
01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:49,880
Speaker 2: a guy four times a, year like you just know,

1809
01:23:49,920 --> 01:23:50,559
Speaker 2: that you just know.

1810
01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:52,000
Speaker 1: That, dude you know What i'm.

1811
01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:54,120
Speaker 2: Saying, like guys you played twice a. Year it's like

1812
01:23:54,160 --> 01:23:56,360
Speaker 2: you you see him and they're they're tough. Matchups but

1813
01:23:56,439 --> 01:23:59,400
Speaker 2: LAST i might for the rest of it, exactly but you,

1814
01:23:59,439 --> 01:24:00,920
Speaker 2: KNOW i know What i'm going To, LA i know

1815
01:24:01,000 --> 01:24:03,120
Speaker 2: What i'm going To denver to Play. Carmela i'm Knowing

1816
01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:05,519
Speaker 2: i'm going to you, know, okay see to PLAY kd

1817
01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:07,920
Speaker 2: and you see those guys and you're gonna see him, again,

1818
01:24:08,080 --> 01:24:10,760
Speaker 2: Right so you can never get to have a good.

1819
01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:12,960
Speaker 2: Game you've got a bad, Game, like, MAN i gotta

1820
01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:16,280
Speaker 2: see this guy. Again But kobe just mentally was the

1821
01:24:16,320 --> 01:24:19,360
Speaker 2: best CHALLENGE i played. Against And, KATIE i couldn't affect a.

1822
01:24:19,360 --> 01:24:22,400
Speaker 2: Shot so even even with those even even even with

1823
01:24:22,479 --> 01:24:23,720
Speaker 2: the hand of the, Face like.

1824
01:24:24,160 --> 01:24:27,400
Speaker 4: See once he gets to that spot and he raises,

1825
01:24:27,479 --> 01:24:30,799
Speaker 4: up you're at his. Waist, yeah and it's. Cheating, Yeah

1826
01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:34,479
Speaker 4: i'm not telling you a. Story you're at his waist

1827
01:24:34,520 --> 01:24:37,720
Speaker 4: and he is unaffected unless you're gonna literally hit him

1828
01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:38,080
Speaker 4: and find.

1829
01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:38,639
Speaker 3: Him he's.

1830
01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:41,080
Speaker 2: Unaffected he admitted that at least the hand of the

1831
01:24:41,080 --> 01:24:42,920
Speaker 2: face bothered him a little. Bit so, like that's a

1832
01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:45,000
Speaker 2: win for. Me i'll take, that all, Right but he

1833
01:24:45,160 --> 01:24:46,760
Speaker 2: was still as a.

1834
01:24:46,760 --> 01:24:50,080
Speaker 1: Handful i'll just love to give. Back how was it

1835
01:24:50,080 --> 01:24:51,760
Speaker 1: for you to start the battle to Take?

1836
01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:54,760
Speaker 2: Charge, yeah so very proud of The batty To Take Charge.

1837
01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:57,120
Speaker 2: Foundation we've been in existence for over a. Decade we

1838
01:24:57,240 --> 01:25:01,880
Speaker 2: just passed three million dollar mark in college scholarships and

1839
01:25:02,240 --> 01:25:06,240
Speaker 2: programming for kids in overlooked. Areas all, Right, like, LOOK

1840
01:25:06,280 --> 01:25:09,000
Speaker 2: i was very lucky to be six, eight pretty, skilled

1841
01:25:09,120 --> 01:25:11,800
Speaker 2: and SO i had opportunity through, basketball all, Right BUT

1842
01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:14,439
Speaker 2: i knew there are millions of kids out there who liked,

1843
01:25:14,439 --> 01:25:16,840
Speaker 2: me who got the, talent the, drive the dog in.

1844
01:25:16,880 --> 01:25:19,840
Speaker 2: Them they need a, platform they need some, resources new,

1845
01:25:19,960 --> 01:25:22,479
Speaker 2: chances need. Chance give me a, chance and Then i'll

1846
01:25:22,479 --> 01:25:25,479
Speaker 2: do the. Rest so my wife And nia highly started

1847
01:25:25,479 --> 01:25:29,040
Speaker 2: this foundation to find those kids and give them a college,

1848
01:25:29,120 --> 01:25:32,400
Speaker 2: education give them, scholarships and give them a. Platform and

1849
01:25:32,479 --> 01:25:35,920
Speaker 2: now we have PhD, candidates we have, attorneys we have medical,

1850
01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:38,800
Speaker 2: professionals we have people that are changing the. World and

1851
01:25:38,840 --> 01:25:41,960
Speaker 2: SO i was lucky people took a chance on me

1852
01:25:42,000 --> 01:25:44,240
Speaker 2: and gave me. Opportunities SO i think it's up to

1853
01:25:44,280 --> 01:25:46,400
Speaker 2: all of us to find young people and give.

1854
01:25:46,240 --> 01:25:46,840
Speaker 1: Them those same.

1855
01:25:46,920 --> 01:25:51,479
Speaker 4: Chances you say you from humble beginnings and, everything BECAUSE

1856
01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:54,280
Speaker 4: i know you. Do smart, guy take care of your.

1857
01:25:54,360 --> 01:25:56,120
Speaker 4: CATS i don't know how this question is going to,

1858
01:25:56,200 --> 01:26:00,240
Speaker 4: go BUT i don't want to hear the question is

1859
01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:02,800
Speaker 4: not to say, like, YEAH i got mom due to the,

1860
01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:04,840
Speaker 4: house SO i took care of. Mom AND i want

1861
01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:08,639
Speaker 4: to know What shane Battie a did to treat.

1862
01:26:08,760 --> 01:26:11,720
Speaker 3: Himself first big, purchase it was like whether it was a,

1863
01:26:11,800 --> 01:26:15,160
Speaker 3: watch it was a, car not a, house and nothing like.

1864
01:26:15,160 --> 01:26:19,360
Speaker 2: That my first, purchase but TO i Bought Golden tea

1865
01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:22,360
Speaker 2: the video. GAME i never had a video. Game, actually,

1866
01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:23,880
Speaker 2: yeah that.

1867
01:26:24,280 --> 01:26:27,360
Speaker 4: Was that was like that was especially back in the

1868
01:26:27,400 --> 01:26:30,160
Speaker 4: early two thousand that was. Like that was that was

1869
01:26:30,200 --> 01:26:33,080
Speaker 4: like you don't walk with regular. People now everybody got that,

1870
01:26:33,120 --> 01:26:34,519
Speaker 4: type but like back then that was that.

1871
01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:36,519
Speaker 2: Was And i'm not a big car, guy but From

1872
01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:38,960
Speaker 2: detroit and so the FIRST carver, GOT i only had

1873
01:26:39,000 --> 01:26:40,760
Speaker 2: it for like two weeks before it. Died and it

1874
01:26:40,800 --> 01:26:44,400
Speaker 2: was nineteen eighty Three Lincoln mark. Four this thing was like.

1875
01:26:44,600 --> 01:26:47,559
Speaker 2: Went this thing was, LIKE i don't, know thirty feet,

1876
01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:50,960
Speaker 2: long went vices AND i put leopard prince seats inside

1877
01:26:50,960 --> 01:26:57,720
Speaker 2: of it and the. Ladies Man, memphis it was Very.

1878
01:26:57,840 --> 01:27:02,679
Speaker 2: MEMPHIS i used to all this thing yellow butter butter yellow.

1879
01:27:03,240 --> 01:27:05,720
Speaker 3: Yellow that.

1880
01:27:05,880 --> 01:27:08,200
Speaker 2: THING i sold. It and this is the biggest to

1881
01:27:08,240 --> 01:27:10,240
Speaker 2: take of my. LIFE i want that car. BACK i loved.

1882
01:27:10,240 --> 01:27:13,439
Speaker 2: It no power steering somethitting.

1883
01:27:13,479 --> 01:27:17,479
Speaker 1: There that is.

1884
01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:25,040
Speaker 3: Awesome that the leopard seeds is. Classic you got a

1885
01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:25,680
Speaker 3: picture of us.

1886
01:27:25,640 --> 01:27:33,200
Speaker 2: Too no yo, somewhere pap you. Somewhere but, yeah it.

1887
01:27:33,320 --> 01:27:35,920
Speaker 1: WAS i can't believe. That that is.

1888
01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:37,800
Speaker 3: Crazy, yeah that's.

1889
01:27:37,880 --> 01:27:42,759
Speaker 4: Awesome well, man we definitely appreciate the one and Only

1890
01:27:42,880 --> 01:27:44,439
Speaker 4: Shane battier pulling up.

1891
01:27:44,479 --> 01:27:48,920
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1892
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1893
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1894
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1899
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