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Speaker 1: This is the ultimate Kaban Wall and we are Conway.

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Speaker 2: And what up. Welcome to another edition of the Action

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Speaker 2: Network Fantasy Flex Podcast. I am your host, Chris Raybond.

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Speaker 2: Here as always with Sean Kerner. Today we're going to

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Speaker 2: be talking about the late round quarterbacks, the quarterbacks outside

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Speaker 2: the Top twelve. Be sure to check out our Top

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Speaker 2: twelve Quarterback episode with none.

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Speaker 1: Other than Evan Silva.

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Speaker 2: And today to talk about the late round quarterbacks, we

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Speaker 2: have a very very special guest, a man that I

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Speaker 2: have admired in the industry for a long time. He's

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Speaker 2: provided me with some great advice. We've taken shots of Hennessy.

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Speaker 2: I think it was together, yeah, South, but it's Jeff

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Speaker 2: Ratcliffe of FTN, Fantasy dot Com, Serious XAM and CBS Sports.

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Speaker 3: Jeff, glad to see you, Thanks for coming on.

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Speaker 1: How you doing it was Jamison? Oh, it's definitely j

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Speaker 2: I was like I mean those are my hendy drinking days,

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Speaker 2: so you know, I was like, I know it was

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Speaker 2: something dark, but.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, everything's good, my man. I'm excited. It's crazy. Julia

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Speaker 1: is the fastest month in the calendar year every single year.

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Speaker 1: And now we're staring at training camp, which means we're

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Speaker 1: basically staring at fantasy football draft season.

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Speaker 2: It feels official, you know, as we record this. The

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Speaker 2: NBA Finals just ended. Shouts to the Milwaukee Buck for

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Speaker 2: messing up my Phoenix Suns future.

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Speaker 3: But I'm glad to see Jannis get one.

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Speaker 2: But I just want to get right into this these quarterbacks,

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Speaker 2: so you know, Sean, everything go with you before we

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Speaker 2: before we get right into this. Hows everything going, Man,

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Speaker 2: everything is good.

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Speaker 4: I'm glad Goscol is over so we get one hundred

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Speaker 4: percent NFL rabon back.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Maybe I'll know the difference between the AFC North and

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Speaker 2: the AFC Central this year, I mean, the lack of

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Speaker 2: the AFC Central. All right, all right, Jeff, I want

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Speaker 2: to get your before we jump into like, you know,

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Speaker 2: quarterback by quarterback, which is what we're gonna do and

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Speaker 2: talk about all these guys. Just a general question for you,

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Speaker 2: like what's your overall strategy at quarterback and fantasy this season?

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Speaker 3: Are you going to be a weight round guy?

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Speaker 2: I know Silva came on the show and he kind

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Speaker 2: of talked about how last year it kind of felt

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Speaker 2: a little more like the middle round, you know, not

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Speaker 2: the true weight round guys, but the middle round guys

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Speaker 2: So so how are you approaching the position in twenty

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Speaker 1: Well, certainly not drafting quarterbacks early, and unfortunately people just

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Speaker 1: aren't going to learn their lesson on this one. Last year,

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Speaker 1: you know, we're coming out of the pandemic. We're wearing

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Speaker 1: me about his draft. He goes, yeah, Christian McCaffrey in

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Speaker 1: the pack Mahomes banged up. You know, we've seen this

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Speaker 1: also draft Kirk Cousins, Matt Ryan, something like that, where

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's very really well put. And I actually

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Speaker 2: have a follow up on this, and Sean, since you

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Speaker 2: know we already heard, they already heard our kind of

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Speaker 2: where this podcast is valuable, where we're talking about, you know,

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Speaker 2: Because I think Jeff he said a good point, like

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Speaker 2: that should we be ranking these guys lower in our

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Speaker 1: So I'm just kind of some more thoughts on that

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Speaker 5: Yet.

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Speaker 1: I think even the precursor to what you're saying here

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Speaker 1: so I will have my tiers obviously. Okay, I could

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Speaker 1: Rankings are very binary, and Sean, you know, Chris, you

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Speaker 1: eight eight. But there's really no difference between these guys.

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Speaker 1: The difference is so granular that it now comes down

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Speaker 1: it might be. That's exactly true.

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Speaker 2: And Sean, any thoughts on that, just how people kind

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Speaker 2: of you know, going off with what Jeff said, how

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Speaker 2: they navigate that, you know when they see your rankins

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Speaker 2: and it's just like you may not actually take the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm big on tiers and quarterbacks. I go in

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Speaker 4: every draft with just an overall plan where if one

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Speaker 4: it comes to quarterback, especially if we're talking about one

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Speaker 4: quarterback leagues, you have sort of a built in high floor,

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Speaker 4: and that's called the waiver Wire. I do my streaming

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Speaker 4: article every week. I've been able to stream anything between

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Speaker 4: the QB six to the QB ten. So just always

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Speaker 4: remember that you have a safety that it's the waiver wire.

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Speaker 4: And yeah, you might have to start off streaming Derek

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's that's a tough start. He probably

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Speaker 2: the He's not for everyone, but this specific type of player,

435
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Speaker 2: which is a quarterback that even if you draft him,

436
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Speaker 2: you may just be using them for one or two weeks,

437
00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,960
Speaker 2: because that's kind of the nature of the beast. Like

438
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Speaker 2: you're hoping you hit on a guy that sticks, but

439
00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,480
Speaker 2: you get to stick. You want a guy that's gonna

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Speaker 2: kind of start hot, and Lawrence does start with at Houston.

441
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Speaker 2: Denver's a really tough one in week two within Arizona, Cincinnati, Tennessee.

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Speaker 2: Four out of those five weeks, if you just had

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Speaker 2: kind of the average NFL quarterback, you would probably start

444
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Speaker 2: them against four of those five defenses. So this is

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Speaker 2: a spot where Trevor Lawrence, you know, week one, he

446
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Speaker 2: can get off to a hot start.

447
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Speaker 1: At Houston and kind of keep it rolling.

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Speaker 2: So I do like taking a gamble with him on

449
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Speaker 2: the upside, especially if he's going outside the top twelve.

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Speaker 1: So I am hopeful.

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Speaker 3: That Lawrence can get some things going, like move on.

452
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Speaker 2: To Matt Ryan, Jeff what do we make of Ryan

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Speaker 2: without his long time you know, number one?

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Speaker 1: And Julio Jones.

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Speaker 2: But at the same time, not everything was bad, you

456
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Speaker 2: know for Matt Ryan. Yes, he lost Julio that's never great.

457
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Speaker 2: But you did get Arthur Smith who really kind of

458
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Speaker 2: turned around Ryan Tanneil's career and made him into just

459
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Speaker 2: an efficient beast, especially in the red zone. And you

460
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Speaker 2: also get Kyle Pitts, one of the best tight end

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Speaker 2: prospects that we've seen in a long time. So I

462
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Speaker 2: guess how all the how do all these things offset?

463
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Speaker 2: And where do you have Ryan heading into twenty twenty one?

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Speaker 1: Actually have him right at this spot in ADP. There's

465
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Speaker 1: we have to be careful with Arthur Smith because you know,

466
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Speaker 1: if you just say, okay, well he's coming from Tennessee.

467
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Speaker 1: Ran the ball a lot, Yeah, of course he did.

468
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Speaker 1: He had Derrick Henry. What do you if you didn't

469
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Speaker 1: do that, which is what they did earlier in Henry's career.

470
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Speaker 1: It was a bit foolish and it didn't work. So, yeah,

471
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Speaker 1: of course he ran the ball a lot. He now

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Speaker 1: has Mike Davis. That that's a big drop off. Mike

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Speaker 1: Davis doesn't even have a four yard per Carrie average

474
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Speaker 1: over the course of his career. Sure the fantasy crowd

475
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Speaker 1: is going to look back and say, what about the

476
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Speaker 1: Fantasy Numbers bro. He wasn't really that good for Carolina either.

477
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Speaker 1: He certainly was put into a tough spot and he

478
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Speaker 1: did a serviceable job. But really, where is his best assets?

479
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Speaker 1: Probably in a passing game, not in the run game.

480
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Speaker 1: We could see a little bit of quadri olison. By

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Speaker 1: the way people looking at Javian Hawkins. Javian Hawkins is

482
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Speaker 1: Tarik Cohen. He's like a poor man stere Cohen. His

483
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,200
Speaker 1: nickname was even PlayStation Tarik Cohens was the human joystick

484
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,879
Speaker 1: at the college level. They're very similar type players. So

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Speaker 1: I could only see him contributing in that area if

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Speaker 1: he is on the roster, which he's far from guaranteed

487
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Speaker 1: to make. So I do see a lot of passing

488
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Speaker 1: this game. And the nice thing, Yes Julio is out,

489
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Speaker 1: but the torch was kind of passed last year. Anyway,

490
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Speaker 1: the games where Julio was sidelined, Calvin Ridley was like

491
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Speaker 1: an automatic double digitari guy. I know he didn't have

492
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Speaker 1: it every single game, but the games he did would

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Speaker 1: he have like nine targets in those games?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: So you have that. You mentioned Kyle Pitts, who rookie

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Speaker 1: tight ends. Yes, ordinarily we have a rookie tight end

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Speaker 1: come in and we say, all right, pump the brakes.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna take a little bit of time. Give it

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Speaker 1: to at least year three. Then we'll officially judge whether

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Speaker 1: or not he's a success or failure. But I think

501
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Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts is going to buck that trend and step

502
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Speaker 1: right into the number two role because otherwise it's Russell Gage.

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Speaker 1: And I know, like people are gonna like hate tweet

504
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Speaker 1: me over this, Like if you have Russell Gage in

505
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Speaker 1: your dynasty leagues. We know what Russell Gage is. He's

506
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Speaker 1: a slot receiver. He's a low upside slot receiver who

507
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,159
Speaker 1: can do a little bit on the outside. But do

508
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Speaker 1: we really expect him to just take over ninety percent

509
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Speaker 1: of Julio shares? No, those shares are largely going to

510
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Speaker 1: go to Pitts and Ridley will take the rest and

511
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Speaker 1: he's going to be a target monster. So I actually

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Speaker 1: don't mind Matt Ryan relatively high floor guy. The thing

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Speaker 1: about Matt Ryan, though, is I don't think he's a

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Speaker 1: type of quarterback who you win a Fantasy championship with,

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Speaker 1: So he could be a tied me over, you know,

516
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Speaker 1: as Sean just alluded, to earlier. You're working that waiver

517
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Speaker 1: wire and then you land on somebody like Jalen Hurts

518
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Speaker 1: at the end of the season. Well, Matt Ryan can

519
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Speaker 1: certainly get you to that point. He probably won't win

520
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Speaker 1: you many games, but he won't lose you many You'll

521
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Speaker 1: keep pace at the position. Yeah, Matt Ryan.

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Speaker 2: I think without Julio, that's the big difference because Matt

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Speaker 2: Ryan actually, you know last year he was what the

524
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Speaker 2: quarterback twelve, but he had snuck in a couple of

525
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Speaker 2: those like top five seasons over the past few years,

526
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Speaker 2: but that of course was with Julio. I do think

527
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Speaker 2: I was I remember watching Ryan last year and just

528
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 2: thinking to myself, like, this dude's downfall is that he

529
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Speaker 2: throws to Russell Gage, Like Russell Gage is Julio Joe.

530
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Speaker 2: So like, I really hope that Kyle Pits gets down,

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Speaker 2: and I think he will. But you know, we have

532
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Speaker 2: like even a George Kittle, you know, in year one

533
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Speaker 2: it was like it was good, it was above average,

534
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Speaker 2: but it wasn't you know, a thousand yards. So I think,

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Speaker 2: you know that we do have to kind of worry

536
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Speaker 2: a little bit, you know, with if Gage is going

537
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:40,920
Speaker 2: to see that much work.

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Speaker 3: But Rashan, what do you think of Matty Ice?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think, you know, Arthur Smith. I think one

540
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:48,920
Speaker 4: of the things that he'll help Matt Ryan with he'll

541
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Speaker 4: probably dial up more play action. You know, back in

542
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Speaker 4: his twenty sixteen MVP season, he led the league in

543
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Speaker 4: play auction at twenty eight percent, But the last two

544
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,880
Speaker 4: seasons he's finished outside of the So I think that's

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Speaker 4: where Arthur Smith might help. We could see more twelve personnel.

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Speaker 4: I think, you know, they could use Kyle Pitts more

547
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Speaker 4: as a receiver, and they still have Hayden Hurst. I

548
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,479
Speaker 4: still think Hayden Hurst is a pretty good tight end.

549
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 4: So I think the loss of Julio hurts, but you know,

550
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:18,399
Speaker 4: Kyle Pitts will help mitigate that a bit. But I

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Speaker 4: view Matt Ryan is a good like two QB league

552
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Speaker 4: super flex formats, like you kind of do value a

553
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Speaker 4: high floor quarterback in that slot, whereas you know a

554
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Speaker 4: single QB league. You know, I already mentioned I prefer

555
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 4: to take upside or play the waiver wire, so I'm

556
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Speaker 4: passing on him in you know, more traditional formats, but

557
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:40,680
Speaker 4: certainly super flex leagues. Matt Ryan's a great high floor

558
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Speaker 4: pick and.

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Speaker 2: Jeff before we move on from Ryan, because I think

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Speaker 2: I'm interested in you guys take on this as well.

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Speaker 1: We've seen a.

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Speaker 3: Pattern with Matt Ryan eight years past.

563
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:57,919
Speaker 2: First year with Kyle Shanahan twenty one touchdowns, sixteen interceptions,

564
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 2: very disappointing season, just about fifteen fantasy points a game.

565
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 2: The next year, year two in the system, thirty eight touchdowns,

566
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Speaker 2: just seven picks, about twenty two fantasy points a game.

567
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:13,199
Speaker 2: Then you know, Sarkesian comes in. It happens again, twenty touchdowns,

568
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Speaker 2: twelve picks, about fourteen fantasy points a game. Year two

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Speaker 2: thirty five touchdowns, seven picks, about twenty two fantasy points

570
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Speaker 2: per game. So is this is this gonna is Matt

571
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Speaker 2: Ryan at this point? Or is this just the kind

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Speaker 2: of guy, Jeff that you know, even though there's no

573
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Speaker 2: pandemic this year because it was no pandemic but back

574
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Speaker 2: and then either like, is this should we be scared

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Speaker 2: that Matt Ryan may take a year even in this

576
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Speaker 2: new system, it was pretty stable the last two years

577
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Speaker 2: eighteen point seven, eighteen point six.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know, I don't think that it's gonna

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Speaker 1: you know, at this point, I don't think he's gonna

580
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Speaker 1: have a dramatic fallouf because of a system, but it

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Speaker 1: may be because of the talent. Like if Kyle Piss

582
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Speaker 1: is not able to and you mentioned a thousand yards

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Speaker 1: that's only been done once by a rookie tight end

584
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Speaker 1: in NFL history Dicka Baby dick a nineteen sixty one.

585
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 1: But even eight hundred yards like that's lofty for our

586
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Speaker 1: rookie tight end. Remember TJ. Howkinson a top ten pick,

587
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,400
Speaker 1: amazing in Week one and then really not much else

588
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 1: from there on out. And yes he ended the season

589
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 1: on injured reserve, but still it's tough. It's really really tough.

590
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,880
Speaker 1: But the thing that Pitts does have to his advantage

591
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,640
Speaker 1: is he is essentially he can play a wide receiver

592
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 1: esque role out there. He's just a complete mismatch. So

593
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Speaker 1: I don't think, No, I wouldn't expect a major drop

594
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Speaker 1: off from last year's numbers in facts, you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: just taking a peek at my projections. I mean, they're

596
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 1: really similar to last year's numbers. Obviously add the extra

597
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Speaker 1: game in, but generally speaking, I have just the slightest

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00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 1: uptick in a fantasy points per game, but not enough

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Speaker 1: to really move the needle from where he was last.

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Speaker 2: Year, Sean, And is it that factor in forew at all?

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Speaker 2: Like the you know, Matt Ryan's previous fill starts in

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Speaker 2: new systems.

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Speaker 4: A little bit, And you know, I forgot to mention

604
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Speaker 4: that when it comes over like the Ryan Tannel comparisons

605
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,199
Speaker 4: in this offense, I mean, Matt Ryan offers zero rushing upside,

606
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 4: so we're not going to see those goal line designed

607
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,400
Speaker 4: runs with him. So it's not Apple's apples. So that's

608
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,120
Speaker 4: why I think we'll probably just see the typical Matt Ryan.

609
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 4: I don't expect too much difference one way or the other.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I'm I am a little bit worried

611
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Speaker 2: and I and this is coming from somebody I have

612
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 2: a lot of respect for Arthur Smith. I even wrote

613
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 2: a whole you know piece on him last year about

614
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 2: how like not not enough people knew his name considering

615
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:31,679
Speaker 2: what the Titans were doing. But remember those last two years, uh,

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00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 2: you know, when he was stable, that was Dirk Cutter.

617
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 1: Who had been his coordinator before.

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00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 2: So we really don't know, like we really don't know

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Speaker 2: if that like kind of affected him. So I think

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Speaker 2: there's I would say there's a wider range of outcomes

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Speaker 2: I'll put it that way. This year for Ryan, like

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00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 2: he may have one of those really disgusting seasons, Like

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Speaker 2: like we've seen a couple of times, he could still

624
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Speaker 2: have that that that huge season. You know, we know

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00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 2: he's capable of that. The Falcons defense shouldn't be very good,

626
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Speaker 2: but I think there's a wider range of outcomes with Matt.

627
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Speaker 2: Ryan starts to year against Philadelphia, so you know, you

628
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 2: can probably live with it for at least a week.

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Speaker 5: Now back to the show.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's move on to Baker Mayfield. Jeff Mayfield finished

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Speaker 2: at QB sixteen last year.

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Speaker 1: He's going at.

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Speaker 3: QB sixteen in the Fantasy pros consensus.

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Speaker 2: I thought he made a lot of big step forward

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Speaker 2: last year, but now he gets an improved defense. You know,

666
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Speaker 2: in that system, they don't necessarily throw a ton if

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Speaker 2: they don't have to. Uh So, how do you see Baker?

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Speaker 2: Kind of his number is kind of shaken out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right. I am a little bit lower in

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Speaker 1: terms of passing attempts on him. I actually had once

671
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Speaker 1: viewed him as a late round upside guy, and now

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of viewing him as more of a late round,

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Speaker 1: higher floor safe guy who doesn't necessarily have that high ceiling.

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Speaker 1: I will say this and do me a favor. If

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Speaker 1: you're listening to this right now, don't turn this off

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Speaker 1: as I'm talking. Okay, Odell Beckham, Oh, don't turn it off.

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Speaker 1: I told you don't turn it off. He gets Odell

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Speaker 1: Beckham back. And here's what we know. And I know

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Speaker 1: the detractors are going to say, Odell Beckham has stunk

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Speaker 1: with the Browns. Look at Baker's numbers. They were better

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Speaker 1: without him last year. Okay, what are we using to

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Speaker 1: base this on. We're using a season of Freddy Kitchens.

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Speaker 1: Look yourself in a mirror and say that you're doing

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Speaker 1: that logically, we're using a season of Freddie Kitchens and

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Speaker 1: seven weeks in a COVID year with a new head coach.

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Speaker 1: I don't think we can base anything on any of that.

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Speaker 1: And I don't think that it was Odell Beckham off

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Speaker 1: the field that caused the team to suddenly gel and

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Speaker 1: turn and around. Was the fact that they basically got

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Speaker 1: out of what was essentially the preseason in the NFL

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Speaker 1: last year. So getting Beckham back, if Beckham is healthy,

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Speaker 1: I think we're finally at a point where now they

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Speaker 1: can unleash that tandem in addition to what else they

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Speaker 1: have in that offense. Of course, you know they have

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Speaker 1: Jarvis Landry, who is your steady Eddy over the middle.

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Speaker 1: In the short and intermediate. You have about twenty five

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Speaker 1: viable tight ends on that team last night checked and

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Speaker 1: then the run game, plus Kareem Hunt out of the backfield,

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Speaker 1: and the occasional nice Nick Chubb reception. Nick Chubb better

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Speaker 1: catching passes than we let on to him to be.

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Speaker 1: I think overall a really good situation. But you're right

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Speaker 1: in the wrong game scripts. There's going to be some

703
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Speaker 1: bad weeks for fantasy purposes because they're going to get

704
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Speaker 1: out to a lead and it's going to be Chubb

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Speaker 1: and Hunt all day long. And as you mentioned, the

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Speaker 1: defense is pretty solid as well, so they're probably going

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Speaker 1: to hold serve. So you do have to keep that

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Speaker 1: in mind with Baker Mayfield if you're going to draft him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's it really comes down to the

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Speaker 2: game scripts, because I do agree. I think it's supporting

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Speaker 2: cast is there. It's silly to trash Beckham, Like obviously

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Speaker 2: Beckham is not what he once was. You know, I

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Speaker 2: don't think he's gonna take you know, like a double

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Speaker 2: digit touchdown guy just taking things to the house like

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Speaker 2: he was for.

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Speaker 3: Eli, but still an above averager seaver Sean.

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Speaker 1: The Browns, you know.

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Speaker 3: As Jeff mentioned, game scripts are gonna be a thing.

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Speaker 2: They start at KC and then they play Houston, who

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Speaker 2: you would figure a different kind of game script but

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Speaker 2: just a weak defense, and then Chicago at Minnesota at

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Speaker 2: the Chargers. Does Baker kind of fit into your quarterback

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Speaker 2: plan if you're waiting.

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Speaker 4: On QB Sean certainly for two QB or super flex leagues.

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Speaker 4: Jeff Aredy mentioned it, but I do consider him, you know,

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Speaker 4: a high floor quarterback. I don't think he has top

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Speaker 4: ten upside because of all the reasons we mentioned. You know,

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Speaker 4: they have a great offensive line, great running game arguably

729
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Speaker 4: be the best in the NFL, and an improved defense,

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Speaker 4: So that that hurts his upside. Well, we'll probably know

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Speaker 4: which weeks he will go off though because of that.

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Speaker 4: But we saw Kevin Stefanski let Baker you know, air

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Speaker 4: it out the final six games last year and he

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Speaker 4: put up QB eight numbers, so we do know he

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Speaker 4: has that upside. But he had a lot of bad

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Speaker 4: luck last year. You know, Odell Beckham missed nine games.

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Speaker 4: There were a couple of home games where they had

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Speaker 4: like thirty plus mile n hour wins. I had to

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Speaker 4: like lower his passing yard projection by like fifty yards.

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Speaker 4: And then Week sixteen the COVID game where literally all

741
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Speaker 4: of his wide receivers were OUTE. So you know, he

742
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Speaker 4: had a few games just wiped out his fancy value.

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Speaker 4: So hopefully he'll see better luck this year. He's a

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Speaker 4: good bet to play all seventeen games. He doesn't scramble

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Speaker 4: much like we can bank on his health, I feel,

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Speaker 4: so I view him as a high, high floor QB

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Speaker 4: that you can take later on in two QB super

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Speaker 4: flex formats.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's go to Deshaun Watson.

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Speaker 2: Now, last time I looked at the odds for Watson, Jeff,

751
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Speaker 2: they weren't very good of him starting for the Texans

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Speaker 2: this year. What do you make of this guys? He

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Speaker 2: in your plans at all? Just a guy you're just

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Speaker 2: not touching. This is the guy that should be on

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Speaker 2: the waiver wire until we know more like, how are

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Speaker 2: you approaching Watson who obviously has that top five upside

757
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Speaker 2: when he's on the field, but we just have no

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Speaker 2: idea what's going on with him right now.

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Speaker 1: So I've seen him drafted in a bunch of industry drafts.

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Speaker 1: But the nice thing is, by the time fantasy draft

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Speaker 1: season rolls around, we're in the heart of it, in

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Speaker 1: the mid August late August, we're gonna know because the

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Speaker 1: scenario is going to play out right in front of

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Speaker 1: us if he gets an indication that he's going to

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Speaker 1: be placed on commissioners Exempt, and if you're on Commissioner's exempt,

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Speaker 1: you get paid, So it would be smart for him

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Speaker 1: to show up report to camp. He would immediately be

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Speaker 1: placed on commissioners Exempt and then he'd start collecting paychecks.

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Speaker 1: If that does not happen, he has made his intentions

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Speaker 1: extremely clear. He will never play for the Texans ever again,

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Speaker 1: so it is in their best interest to then try

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Speaker 1: and get whatever they can for him. There are some

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Speaker 1: destinations we've heard, Philadelphia, Denver, Miami. A lot of teams

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Speaker 1: still could be interested. Now. I know the response from

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Speaker 1: people might be, well, what about suspension? A suspension will

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Speaker 1: very likely happen if he's not placed on Commissioner's exempt. However,

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Speaker 1: it will not happen until twenty twenty two. Because the

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Speaker 1: NFL lets the legal proceedings play out. Watson will not

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Speaker 1: be deposed until after the Super Bowl, so all of

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one could play out and he could, in

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Speaker 1: theory be on a team. Now, the challenge here is

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Speaker 1: you're not trading for a player at really almost any

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Speaker 1: other position. You're trading for the most important position, the

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Speaker 1: player who needs to know the offense asap. And I

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Speaker 1: don't know how that happens that quickly, So I guess

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Speaker 1: you know, to answer the question here, he's not in

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Speaker 1: my plans. I don't think he's going to play this year,

788
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Speaker 1: but I've been wrong about these things in the past,

789
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Speaker 1: and as we know in the NFL, anything can certainly happened.

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Speaker 1: The one thing I do know, though, it's not going

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Speaker 1: to be with the texts. It'll be with somebody else

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Speaker 1: if he does in fact play this season. But I

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Speaker 1: think the likelihood of commissioner is exempt is pretty strong.

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Speaker 1: Of course, we're going to have to wait about a

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Speaker 1: week to find that out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think Sean, on a last pot, I

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Speaker 2: ask you, you know your odds of Watson finishing is

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Speaker 2: a top twelve QB and you put it at fifteen

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Speaker 2: to twenty percent, So I guess kind of flipping this

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Speaker 2: question around, what are the odds of him going on

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Speaker 2: Commissioners exempt?

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Speaker 3: Is it like somewhere in the ad to eighty five percent.

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Speaker 1: Range for you?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that has to be pretty high. But

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Speaker 4: at the end of the day, I mean, who the

806
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Speaker 4: hell knows his ADP here is QB seventeen. That's probably

807
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Speaker 4: a little bit too rich for me. I think that

808
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Speaker 4: you know, it's all about how much risk you're willing

809
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Speaker 4: to take on what format you're in. But there's so

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Speaker 4: much uncertainty. Hear, he definitely shouldn't be on the waiver wire,

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Speaker 4: like he should be on someone's bench. You know, he's

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Speaker 4: a top five QB that you could stash and just

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Speaker 4: wait and see or best ball format, so you can

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Speaker 4: get him as your QB three late in the draft,

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Speaker 4: where typically you don't expect much from those players anyway,

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Speaker 4: So when it comes to him, it's just the price

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00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,280
Speaker 4: has to be right for you with uncertain your morals,

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Speaker 4: if you want to take a guy like that, like

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Speaker 4: it's a personal choice, but at QB seventeen, I'm probably passing.

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Speaker 2: Jeff, I got a shout. I asked you this after.

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Speaker 2: But here's a question for you. You have Aaron rodd

822
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Speaker 2: you're in an industry league or a high stakes league.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you're in a just a high stakes best ball

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Speaker 2: league right now, there's something on the line, even if

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Speaker 2: you're drafting right now, Jeff, what's your choice? Either you

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Speaker 2: have to take one of these two on your team,

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Speaker 2: either Aaron Rodgers at QB eight or Deshaun Watson at

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Speaker 2: QB seventeen.

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Speaker 1: Which one you take? Rogers? I don't see a scenario

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Speaker 1: where he sits out, and you know the whole Like

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Speaker 1: Adam Schefter thing yesterday, that was kind of weird because

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Speaker 1: that was two months old, that news that, like they

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Speaker 1: offered him the contract and he didn't want to. It

834
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Speaker 1: was a very weird scenario, even with people at ESPN

835
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Speaker 1: calling that out, like Tony Kornheiser calling that out from Schefter,

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Speaker 1: that's so odd. But you know, I digress. I think

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Speaker 1: there's there's no way they trade the reigning MVP. The

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Speaker 1: you know, they're gonna have a shareholders meeting in five days,

839
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Speaker 1: which we know they Their whole organization is very different

840
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Speaker 1: than pretty much any other NFL organization where it's a

841
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 1: lot of the community members who are shareholders, so they're

842
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 1: gonna have to answer to those folks. But I think

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00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 1: there's really one option for Rogers. I mean, yes, he

844
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Speaker 1: could hold out. I don't see that as viable. He

845
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,240
Speaker 1: could retire, but do we really think he's going to retire.

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Speaker 1: I think he's gonna play. It'll be a shock in

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Speaker 1: Kobe situation for this year, and then eventually they're going

848
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:34,800
Speaker 1: to at the end of the season before free agency,

849
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Speaker 1: trade them away, get their picks and then Rogers will

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Speaker 1: be I don't know, in Denver or wherever he ends up.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, Rogers for me, I think he's playing this year, Ron.

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Speaker 4: Rogers, but I wouldn't like it, but you're forcing me.

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Speaker 1: I think you can play.

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Speaker 4: They just don't fit my draft plans because I like

855
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Speaker 4: taking the uncertainty of a rookie having a really good

856
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Speaker 4: year other than you know, as opposed to this Rogers

857
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Speaker 4: situation with the Watson situation. Too much uncertainty that I

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Speaker 4: don't like.

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Speaker 1: Hey, you know what's funny, guys?

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Speaker 2: Last year the cliche was if you were hosting a

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Speaker 2: podcast was guys, can you believe me?

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Speaker 1: Like the pandemic?

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Speaker 2: And then you say some cliche that has to do

864
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 2: with something ridiculous that happened because of the pandemic. But

865
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 2: this is non pandemic related. But what are the chances

866
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 2: we would be sitting here? Aaron Rodgers was the QB

867
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 2: two last year, Deshaun Watson was a QB five, and

868
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,839
Speaker 2: we're sitting here as draft season approach. It's like, yeah,

869
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 2: none of these guys are in my draft plan really, like,

870
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:29,720
Speaker 2: you know, like that's that's.

871
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 1: Kind of nuts man.

872
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 2: In regards to the question, I would probably go Watson

873
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 2: because I just feel like I can I can.

874
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 3: Live with a zero at that QB seventeen pick, like

875
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 3: at where.

876
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 2: He's going, Whereas like Jeff as you mentioned that that

877
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 2: like middle tier QB eight, you're still like that's like

878
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 2: prime position to make or break your draft. And I

879
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,720
Speaker 2: really don't want to have Rogers make or breaking my draft,

880
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 2: as I guess would, so so that's the only reason

881
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 2: I choose Watson, and I'd eat it if I had to.

882
00:40:58,600 --> 00:40:58,919
Speaker 1: I could.

883
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 2: I felt like I feel like I could at that spot.

884
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 2: Let's go to another guy who Jeff really surprised last

885
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 2: year didn't quite you know, do with Rogers and Watson did,

886
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 2: because who can but for a guy that doesn't really

887
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 2: run much, a guy who only had one rushing touchdown

888
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 2: in one hundred and fifty six yards rushing, Kirk Cousins

889
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 2: had a pretty good year. Finished his the QB eleven,

890
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 2: thirty five touchdowns, thirteen picks. You mentioned you're not as

891
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 2: high on Justin Jefferson as probably the industry did. That

892
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:30,919
Speaker 2: kind of translate to kirk Cousins.

893
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,240
Speaker 1: Well, I think I'm actually like on par with everybody

894
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 1: in terms of Justin Jefferson. He is coming off of

895
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 1: the greatest stargulary the greatest statistical rookie season of any

896
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: wide receiver in NFL history, by the way, just to reminder,

897
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen, he was the second best receiver on

898
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 1: his college team. Of course, the best receiver now is

899
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: going to play for the Cincinnati Bengals. But I think

900
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 1: it was a little bit of an outlier year though.

901
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 1: When you look at it thirty five passing scores, you

902
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: know Adam Felen was off the charts in terms of efficiency.

903
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 1: So I think we see a little bit of statistical regression,

904
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 1: and just a reminder to everybody, even the people in

905
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 1: the cheap seats, regression does not mean get worse. It

906
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 1: is not the opposite of progress. It means moved to

907
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 1: the average. Okay, that's all we're trying to say with this.

908
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,359
Speaker 1: I think Kirk Cousins, generally speaking, probably doesn't get enough

909
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 1: credit for how solid he's been over the course of

910
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 1: his career. But I think also that's sort of the

911
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 1: best way of describing him solid. I don't think last

912
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 1: year was repeatable as a top twelve guy. I have

913
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 1: him at sixteen though, and I'm perfectly fine grabbing Kirk

914
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 1: Cousins and what is definitely going to be more of

915
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 1: a run heavy offense, but as a guy who has

916
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 1: a relatively high floor and he you know, she showed

917
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 1: he can catch fire for a little stretches. He's done

918
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:50,879
Speaker 1: it in each of the last two years here where

919
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 1: he's had nice little runs of you know, several weeks

920
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 1: in a row of top ten performances. Sean, you know,

921
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 1: what are.

922
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 2: Your thoughts on Cousins is sixteen do you have him

923
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 2: higher or loward and sixteen where Jeff has them?

924
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 4: I think it depends on format. We've been saying that,

925
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 4: but like I have him QB seventeen, he's much more

926
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 4: valuable and a two QB super flex head to head,

927
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 4: season long format where you know exactly what you're gonna

928
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 4: get each week. We talked about all the time, where

929
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 4: you know you only have to beat one opponent, so

930
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 4: having a stable second quarterback helps you out. Whereas you

931
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 4: know best ball you're not going to get those spiked

932
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 4: weeks that you really need, so I fade him in

933
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 4: best ball. But you know he's in a you know,

934
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 4: run heavy offense, but he has great pass catchers, so

935
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 4: you know he has a very high weekly floor, but

936
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 4: he doesn't offer any rushing upside, so you know, very

937
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 4: limited ceiling. He's probably gonna play all seventeen games. Again,

938
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 4: this helps you out in season long formats where you're

939
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 4: starting two quarterbacks. So I consider him like a really

940
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 4: good pick in a two QB format.

941
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, good picking two QB format, And i'd argue one

942
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 2: of the better, like if you're just waiting and punting

943
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 2: the position, one of the better guys to kind of

944
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,959
Speaker 2: pick up early season as well. Minnesota starts at Cincinnati,

945
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 2: at Arizona, and then home for Seattle, So three games

946
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 2: I think where Yeah, it's a pretty decent schedule because

947
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,720
Speaker 2: you've got the road game, so it's not just like, Okay,

948
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:12,399
Speaker 2: you get up big and you take the air out

949
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 2: of the ball. I feel like on the road it's

950
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 2: a little shootouts are a little more probable for a

951
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 2: team that may not otherwise have them. So I'm like,

952
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 2: Cousins is kind of a punt, you know, late round quarterbacks,

953
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 2: early season streamer pick.

954
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 1: Let's go on to Justin Fields now, he's.

955
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 2: You know, obviously we're using a Fantasy pros consensus adp

956
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,320
Speaker 2: ADPs are going to differ by sight, but the bottom

957
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 2: line is people are taking Justin Fields is pretty Seriously,

958
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 2: it's considering where we are now in the offseason, Jeff,

959
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 2: what are your thoughts on fields? How many games do

960
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 2: you think he's gonna start? Do you think he's worth

961
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 2: taking at this ADP nineteen consensus, Given that we don't

962
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,800
Speaker 2: know that fact as of now.

963
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 1: I think that's a huge factor here. And also I

964
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 1: think there's probably a lot of people who watch the

965
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: college football semi final game against Clemson and we're like,

966
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 1: this is the guy that was the best game of

967
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:07,839
Speaker 1: his career. There's no doubt about it. He was a

968
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 1: monster in that game. He made some big boy throws,

969
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 1: he took a big hit, he was running all over

970
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 1: the field. He showed the versatility to be a modern

971
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: quarterback in the NFL and the skill set to be

972
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:20,720
Speaker 1: a strong fantasy option. Unfortunately, his head coach is Matt Naggi,

973
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 1: who has made it abundantly clear that Andy Dalton will

974
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 1: be the starter in Week one. And there are some

975
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 1: coaches who say that and you're like, yeah, all right,

976
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 1: we'll see Nope, Matt Naggy is one hundred percent on

977
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 1: this one. It's going to be Andy Dalton. So why

978
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: would you you know? First and foremost, against the Rams.

979
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 1: Why would you start justin fields in that game? So

980
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 1: I think a viable over under. I don't know what

981
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:45,280
Speaker 1: you think about this sean week six and a half,

982
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 1: because you know, if you're gonna start Andy Dalton in

983
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 1: week one, you're probably gonna lose that game. Okay, you

984
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,439
Speaker 1: give him Week two Bengals, Maybe that's a winnable game,

985
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 1: all right, back to the Browns and None that feels

986
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 1: like a loss. Then you get the Lions. That's a

987
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 1: winnable game. If you get out of the first month

988
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 1: of the season. I was gonna say September, but technically

989
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 1: I guess at October third is the week four. If

990
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: you get out of that two and two, you're probably

991
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 1: still sticking with Andy Dalton for the Raiders game and

992
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 1: maybe for the Packers game. But after that, after Week six,

993
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 1: they have this stretch into their by the Buccaneers, the

994
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 1: forty nine Ers, and the Steelers. Steelers may have some

995
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 1: trouble along that offensive line, but the defense is still

996
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 1: pretty potent, especially in terms of the pass rush. So

997
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: if he's not in there before that point, it could

998
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 1: be after the bye before we finally see him. Now,

999
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 1: I don't think that happens. I actually think Week five

1000
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 1: is when he takes over. But there is that risk,

1001
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:39,760
Speaker 1: and there's always that risk, and he's not a top

1002
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 1: five quarterback where there's the extreme pressure to get him

1003
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 1: on the field. Now he's the top he's eleven. He

1004
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 1: was pick eleven, but they don't have that same pressure. Also,

1005
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 1: let's note that fields early in his career. This will

1006
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: be good for fantasy. He'll kind of be like how

1007
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 1: Josh Allen was early in his career. He's gonna have

1008
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 1: to lean on his physical talents because the game is

1009
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 1: going to be too fast for him. His coach in

1010
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 1: college has he even noted this, saying, you know, he

1011
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 1: still has some developing to do. So it's something that

1012
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to know it there. But I just

1013
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 1: don't think it's worth the price point for a guy

1014
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: who's probably not gonna be a Week one starter and

1015
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:17,879
Speaker 1: may not start until October. Yeah, I totally agree.

1016
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 2: I think that the schedule itself is is it kind

1017
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 2: of wends itself to somewhere and at week four to

1018
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 2: six range. I actually had Week four scheduled against Detroit

1019
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 2: because I don't think Andy Dalton's winning that, you know,

1020
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 2: revenge game against Cincinnati. I think they start zero to

1021
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,320
Speaker 2: three and they give Fields the easy Week four start

1022
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 2: against the Lions, like because when you live down the line, Yeah,

1023
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 2: it gets tougher and tougher.

1024
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 3: I'm Sean, what are your thoughts on on Justin Fields?

1025
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm with you. You know about Week four is

1026
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 4: when I have him taking over. I think, you know,

1027
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 4: the fact that we have a preseason this year may help. Like,

1028
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 4: if he looks really good, it's gonna be hard to

1029
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 4: keep him on the bench, whereas last year you can

1030
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 4: kind of hide your rookies a little bit more. I'm

1031
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 4: a bit worried that, you know, Matt Magie was on

1032
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 4: the Chiefs when they decided to sit Patrick Mahomes out

1033
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 4: for pretty much the entire rookie season behind Alex Smith.

1034
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 4: I'm hoping that doesn't happen here because that was.

1035
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 3: That was that was ownership that was coming from upstairs.

1036
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 2: That wasn't like I think Matt and Aggie probably more

1037
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 2: than anyone, knew that.

1038
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 1: I didn't. Patrick Mahomes, yeah, he was there when it happened.

1039
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 4: Hopefully, you know, even though lux Smith is really good

1040
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 4: that year, hopefully he doesn't, you know, use that as

1041
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 4: a blueprint. But yeah, I think you know, Fields is

1042
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 4: too good not to start, and you know Jeff mentioned it,

1043
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 4: but rookie quarterbacks who you know are dual threat quarterbacks,

1044
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 4: they can kind of overcome their inefficiencies when it comes

1045
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 4: to passing and put up QB one value. So I'm

1046
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 4: very interested in him as like a you know, a

1047
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 4: bench stash where maybe you punt that quarterback and you

1048
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 4: plan on streaming to start the season. Draft justin Field

1049
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 4: just sit on your bench. Actually, I would probably prefer

1050
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:49,760
Speaker 4: stashing Trey Lance. I think he probably has a higher

1051
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 4: ceiling and is in a better system. But I think

1052
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 4: either rookie quarterback, like based on the rushing ability, it

1053
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 4: makes sense to stash them just based on their upside.

1054
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Jeff, I'm I actually want to just stay

1055
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 2: on Lance because I think Fields in Lance and natural comparisons,

1056
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 2: both guys can move around. Both guys. We don't have

1057
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 2: a hard number of starts that we can project at

1058
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:14,800
Speaker 2: this point. So where are you on Fields versus Lance?

1059
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 2: Who are in some ADPs, I'm seeing Lance going on

1060
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:20,359
Speaker 2: a few spots lower. Where do you come in on

1061
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,839
Speaker 2: that kind of the value of each of those guys

1062
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 2: compared to each other.

1063
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: You know, it's weird. I actually have it reversed this.

1064
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 1: ADP has Fields at nineteen and then Lance at twenty three.

1065
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 1: I have Lance at eighteen in my rankings right now,

1066
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,840
Speaker 1: and then Fields at twenty three. I think Lance starts

1067
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 1: in week one, and I know that may be very bullish,

1068
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 1: and I'm not trying to be hot takee because I

1069
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 1: try to be the furthest thing from that. I'm not

1070
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 1: trying to get your clicks or anything like that. I

1071
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:48,359
Speaker 1: just think the writing is on the wall for this.

1072
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 1: You have the team making a power move up the

1073
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 1: board because they were stuck with basically the same quarterback

1074
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: that Kyle Shanahan's been stuck with for pretty much his

1075
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,799
Speaker 1: entire career, going back to the last time he had

1076
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 1: any sort of upside was probably RG three and unfortunately

1077
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 1: that didn't end very well. But Lance is not RG three.

1078
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 1: He may be able to run, and RG three was

1079
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:15,320
Speaker 1: able to run, but Lance turns into almost a running

1080
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 1: back when he runs. It's kind of crazy. They may

1081
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 1: have the real sum of that in you can't lower

1082
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 1: the shoulder on defenders all the time, but then he

1083
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 1: has the ability to make big boy throws. And the

1084
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 1: thing that really clinchhit for the team they've come out

1085
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:31,760
Speaker 1: and set it is the fact that his football IQ

1086
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 1: is through the roof. Now, yes, he played it North

1087
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 1: Dakota State, but basically there, as we know from Carson Wentz,

1088
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 1: that's a pro style offense, so he already has a

1089
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 1: leg up there. Yes, maybe playing against a lower level

1090
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 1: of competition, but I always say about those you know

1091
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:49,839
Speaker 1: FCS guys, division two guys, even Division three guys, if

1092
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 1: they're playing at that level, they better utterly dominate the competition.

1093
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 1: And that's what he did in twenty nineteen. He didn't

1094
00:50:56,000 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 1: throw a single interception in twenty nineteen, utterly dominated the petition.

1095
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 1: And we don't know what last year would have been like, Yes,

1096
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 1: he played one game, but whatever, we're going to toss

1097
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 1: that out because they didn't play unfortunately, so a lot

1098
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 1: of people may not know him like they know justin fields.

1099
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:17,839
Speaker 1: But for fantasy purposes, in that offense with those weapons Deebo,

1100
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 1: Samuel Brand and I George Kittle, the run game with

1101
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 1: oh Trey Sermon, not rahiemos, Sir Trey Sermon. Maybe even

1102
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 1: the little Eli Mitchell for you there, Matt Brad at

1103
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 1: two point zero. You know, it's just so exciting. Plus

1104
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 1: all the constant the run concepts, I think there's just

1105
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:37,720
Speaker 1: an absolute enormous ceiling. And honestly, while I think Trevor

1106
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 1: Lawrence is the better football prospect for fantasy purposes, Trey

1107
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 1: Lance's ability to run closes the gap for me, and

1108
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 1: I don't think there's that big, that sizable gap between

1109
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 1: the two. Like you mentioned christ the only uncertainty though,

1110
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 1: is he going to be the Week one starter. I

1111
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 1: think he is my over under for him, just to

1112
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 1: show you how bullish I am, I have it at

1113
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 1: two and a half week two and a half is

1114
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 1: where I think that over unders.

1115
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 2: Might takes a little more complex on his Jeff, I

1116
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 2: think that Trey Lance is clearly the better quarterback. I

1117
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 2: think he's queerly the better dynasty prospect. I think he

1118
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,879
Speaker 2: has the better supporting cast of the two. I'm reluctant

1119
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 2: to rank him ahead of Fields for season long because

1120
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 2: now I'm just looking at the path to start and well,

1121
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:21,399
Speaker 2: I do think that Jimmy g you know, long term,

1122
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 2: is a guy that's probably not in their plans. I

1123
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 2: just think that he's a guy he's still a guy

1124
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 2: that went twenty two and eight regular season twenty four

1125
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 2: to nine. Overall, he's a guy that, unlike goff with

1126
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 2: McVeigh for example, like Shanahan acquired Jimmy G like McVeigh

1127
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 2: inherited Gosh, So it's a little different. So I just

1128
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 2: think that when you're talking about Andy Dawton in front

1129
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 2: of you with a tough schedule versus like Jimmy G,

1130
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 2: a guy who's won games with a team that has

1131
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 2: a defense, injuries are really hard to predict. So like

1132
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 2: I have it more at like week six because I

1133
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:53,840
Speaker 2: think Jimmy G is more likely to miss games and

1134
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 2: most quarterbacks.

1135
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 1: But if Jimmy G were just stay healthy, like let's

1136
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 1: say he.

1137
00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 2: Doesn't get hurt, I actually do think there's a good

1138
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 2: chance that Jimmy G starts all the games and they

1139
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:04,320
Speaker 2: actually treat it more like a MA home situation where

1140
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 2: then they just look to offload Jimmy G next year.

1141
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:08,799
Speaker 2: I think I think that's how they would approach it.

1142
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 2: It's not like it's not this is not. This is

1143
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 2: more of like just kind of a field situation. This

1144
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 2: is not I don't have any inside sources, so Sean,

1145
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 2: I'll let you kind of break the tie here, like

1146
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 2: where are you on you know how the Niners are

1147
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 2: kind of thinking about approaching Trey Lance.

1148
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's a that's a fair point. I think,

1149
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 4: you know, Field is probably more likely to start earlier

1150
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 4: in the season, but that's you know, that's uncertainty that

1151
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 4: we don't really know. I think when they are both starting,

1152
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:37,319
Speaker 4: I rather have Lance. That's why I'm leaning towards him

1153
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 4: at his ADP. I mean, if you just if you

1154
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 4: were to do a creative player in Madden for like

1155
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 4: the ultimate fancy football player, it probably look a lot

1156
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 4: like Trey Lance. I mean, great running ability can for

1157
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 4: an arm and I already mentioned just Kyle Shanahan was

1158
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 4: able to make Nick Mullens like a QB two for

1159
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 4: a good period of time. And you know Jimmy g

1160
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:01,319
Speaker 4: he's led the league and yard defter the catch over

1161
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 4: the past two seasons. Like this system does help out

1162
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 4: the quarterback and whereas Lance is going to help out

1163
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 4: the system as well. So you know, we have the

1164
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:11,800
Speaker 4: situation where I think he has legit QB one upside.

1165
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 4: We don't know when that's gonna be. But Raybun you

1166
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:17,360
Speaker 4: mentioned it you're really just drafting the usable games. We'll

1167
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 4: know when to use him. He'll be starting, he'll be

1168
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 4: a starting quarterback, will know when to play him. And

1169
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 4: you know, the forty nine ers have the easiest strength

1170
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 4: of schedule this year. And I think we've talked about

1171
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 4: it with like Lamar Jackson, like he does better when

1172
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 4: they're playing ahead, and I think Lance will be that

1173
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 4: type of quarterback. So I think the easy stoft schedule

1174
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:36,919
Speaker 4: is going to help him out even more so. I think,

1175
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 4: you know, I think we see him sooner than later.

1176
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 4: I think we see him before the week six, but

1177
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 4: I think it is a week five. But yeah, like

1178
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:46,799
Speaker 4: you said, there is enough uncertainty where if you have

1179
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 4: pause in him and you prefer fields, you know you can.

1180
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:51,320
Speaker 4: I can go either way on that, but I prefer

1181
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 4: Lance when they're both starting. Yeah, I hope Lance starts sooner.

1182
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 2: I just I just don't know that that's the most

1183
00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 2: likely more likely than the fields, just because like Andy do,

1184
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 2: and it's just I can't see this dude, last did me.

1185
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 2: I don't even know if he makes it through. Can't

1186
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 2: to be honest. Let's move on to the Carson Wentz Jeff.

1187
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:10,879
Speaker 2: Is he broken can did Doug Peterson break him? Did

1188
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 2: this that horrible supporting cast? And when I say horrible

1189
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:15,840
Speaker 2: and Philly, I mean at the tail end when you

1190
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 2: had no receivers, when when you made Travis Fogan look

1191
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:21,280
Speaker 2: like you know, Randy Moss because you had nobody else

1192
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 2: and Zach Ertz couldn't run or stay healthy or or

1193
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 2: I guess and does does Wentz now coming back you

1194
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 2: know to Frank Reich? Does he now inherit some of that?

1195
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 1: You know?

1196
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 2: Andrew luck upside when Luck threw all those passes that

1197
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 2: year and just you know, stopped running but just really

1198
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 2: became a great passer, even better passer, or his upside

1199
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 2: kind of more in that Philip Rivers.

1200
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 1: Rank, like where what do you what? What do I

1201
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 1: do with Wins? I wouldn't give him Luck territory for sure,

1202
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:53,720
Speaker 1: but maybe Rivers plus something along those lines. We can't

1203
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 1: really discount the impact of the offensive line. We don't

1204
00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 1: know what the impact of just drafting Jalen hurts All

1205
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 1: ultimately was on Carson Wentz. I know, we could spin

1206
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 1: narratives all day long, but the offensive line is a

1207
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:09,319
Speaker 1: very easy area to look at. That was a huge

1208
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:12,240
Speaker 1: problem for the Philadelphia Eagles. They were decimated even entering

1209
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:14,320
Speaker 1: the season, and it just continued to get worse throughout

1210
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:18,240
Speaker 1: the season. And by the midpoint of the year, you saw,

1211
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 1: you know, as you mentioned, a completely broken quarterback who

1212
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 1: couldn't even identify open receivers because he looked like he

1213
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 1: was scared he was going to get hit, you know,

1214
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:28,959
Speaker 1: and he took one too many hits for sure early

1215
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 1: in the year. I don't think we're beyond the point

1216
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 1: of no return, though. The one thing that I would say,

1217
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 1: you know, if if we're comparing him to somebody who

1218
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,760
Speaker 1: we're going to talk about in a minute, Ben Roethlisberger,

1219
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 1: the physical decline is concerning. We haven't seen the physical

1220
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 1: decline from Carson Wentz that last year. I think was

1221
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 1: was really purely mental. I don't you know. His arm

1222
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 1: strength really wasn't a problem. He had. He had all

1223
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 1: those games where he remember the John High Tower, He'd

1224
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 1: have like four targets and have two hundred and eighty

1225
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 1: are yards or whatever. It was like, the arm streak

1226
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 1: wasn't an issue. It was definitely be the nine inch

1227
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 1: space between his ears that was the issue. And Frank

1228
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:12,840
Speaker 1: Reich him and Frank Reich there. It's been well documented

1229
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 1: they got along very well. That was the big year

1230
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 1: for him, and let's not forget he was not the

1231
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 1: MVP that year. Tom Brady was still the MVP regardless

1232
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 1: of what Carson did. But Carson Wentz was in the discussion.

1233
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 1: He was like a top five player overall that season

1234
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 1: before getting hurt. Nick Foles cementing his legacy in the

1235
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 1: lore of Philadelphia. But I think he's fine. I don't

1236
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 1: like the risk. I do like the surrounding cast. I

1237
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 1: think Michael Pittman's really going to take a step where

1238
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 1: Chris Ballard has gone out of his way to highlight

1239
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 1: Michael Pittman heading into this year. If Paris Campbell could

1240
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 1: finally stay healthy, that could be really nice. You have

1241
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 1: a veteran presence in t Y Hilton, You have arguably

1242
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:55,919
Speaker 1: the best offensive line out there, close to the best

1243
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 1: offensive line. If you don't have him as the number one,

1244
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 1: you have tight ends, which you mean historically Carson Wentz

1245
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 1: has loved to throw the football too. And then you

1246
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 1: have Niam Hines. While with Jonathan Taylor is decent enough

1247
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 1: pass catcher out of the backfield. It all sets up

1248
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 1: well for Wentz. I do like your call out, though

1249
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 1: I do hope he hangs around a little bit more

1250
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 1: because in Philly I felt there were far, far too

1251
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 1: many times where he looked to run. And I hope

1252
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 1: he goes through his progressions and really works it, but

1253
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 1: he could be successful enough. I don't think he's completely shot,

1254
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 1: but I also don't think that he has like top

1255
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 1: twelve upside. I think he's kind of perfect right where

1256
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 1: he's going, and I think that's about where he's going

1257
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 1: to wind up.

1258
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was really mental with him and

1259
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 2: and I mean that's concerning in his own right because

1260
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 2: like we've seen, like if you're in a week quarterback,

1261
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 2: like we've seen those guys survive without as the physical declines,

1262
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 2: like you know Drew Brees, you know, even Rochtersberg. I

1263
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 2: think he's physically declining.

1264
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 1: I don't think.

1265
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 2: I think if his arm was the way it should

1266
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 2: have been last year, that offense wouldn't have run.

1267
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 1: The way it did. Like I think, I think.

1268
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 2: There's a lot of guys that can survive with that.

1269
00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:00,959
Speaker 2: It's harder to survive the mental issues. Uh, in Wes,

1270
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 2: you correct them really fast. So I do think right

1271
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 2: can And I do like the comparing comparing Wentz to Roethlisberger,

1272
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:09,919
Speaker 2: because again, I think some of these choices are really

1273
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 2: gonna come down to, especially if you're not in a

1274
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:14,439
Speaker 2: TWQB league, They're gonna come down to what you're gonna

1275
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 2: do with these guys right off the bat. Wentz starts

1276
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 2: the year with two home games, Seattle and the Rams.

1277
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 2: Now the Rams obviously not ideal, but you know, and

1278
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 2: then you know at Tennessee in Week three, Pittsburgh starts

1279
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 2: at Buffalo. So if you get through that, you have Vegas,

1280
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 2: then you have Cincinnati. So but I don't like that

1281
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 2: that week one, like starting a guy like Ben at Buffalo.

1282
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 2: So I'd probably still win Wentz home vers Seattle just

1283
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 2: for that reason, and then I go from there. If

1284
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 2: Wentz still looks broken, you know, I would drop him

1285
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 2: after Week one or something like that.

1286
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 1: No biggie, But.

1287
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 2: But Sean, where are you on this Wentz versus Roethlisberger comparison?

1288
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 4: That's a tough I think Wentz offers the most upside,

1289
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 4: but there's no denying how bad he was last year.

1290
00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 4: I mean, he loved the league and picks and sacks

1291
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 4: despite only playing twelve games. I mean he was benched

1292
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:04,760
Speaker 4: for the final four, so I mean he was really bad.

1293
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 4: A lot of the blame can be placed on the

1294
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:10,400
Speaker 4: Eagles offensive line decimated, lack of you know, pass catchers,

1295
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:12,440
Speaker 4: but he held on the ball too long. I mean

1296
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 4: he had a two point nine to one second time

1297
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 4: to throw in the pocket. So you know, maybe if

1298
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 4: he got rid of it quicker, it's been a little

1299
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 4: bit better. He will have an elite offensive line to

1300
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 4: play behind, so that's going to help him out a ton.

1301
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 4: Jeff already mentioned he has a ton of pass catchers

1302
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 4: I do like, so he could bounce back. I'm a

1303
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 4: bit luke warm at ADP. I think it's about right

1304
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 4: QB twenty. If he falls, you know, to twenty two

1305
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 4: or twenty four, sure I'll take a flyer. But you know,

1306
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 4: he has that QB one two fringe upside that we've seen,

1307
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 4: so he's worth a flyer. There Where's big Ben. I

1308
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 4: think he's just more of a high floor guy. I

1309
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 4: don't think he really has top ten upside anymore. But

1310
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 4: you know, Wentz, this is the part in the draft

1311
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 4: for if you want to take gamble, sure take him.

1312
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 4: ADP twenty probably won't be me doing it, but I

1313
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 4: can't blame anybody that does.

1314
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 3: All right, let's move on to a guy who's high risk.

1315
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:07,240
Speaker 2: It feels at least high risk, high reward, probably more

1316
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 2: than it should have given his kind of pedigree, but

1317
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 2: to a tongue of II LOA not quite as good

1318
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 2: as he probably should have been last year. But Jeff,

1319
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 2: he's got jaylen Wadow, He's got will Fuller Hope, you know,

1320
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 2: after what is it week one?

1321
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 3: So he's got he's got some weapons.

1322
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 2: He's in year two of the system and to a

1323
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 2: bea a consistent QB one ers is he kind of

1324
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:34,640
Speaker 2: destined to be this low end QB two?

1325
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 1: You know what? I think The answer is, we don't know,

1326
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:40,160
Speaker 1: and I know that you know a lot of people

1327
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 1: may not want that answer, but here's what we do know.

1328
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 1: He was coming off of devastating injury that obviously ended

1329
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:51,120
Speaker 1: his college career and was one of the big talking

1330
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 1: points at the combine UH last year. You know, we

1331
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 1: were out there in Indianapolis and that was what people

1332
01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:59,040
Speaker 1: were talking about. You know, how's to hip house the hip?

1333
01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 1: How's the hip? He manages to get through the injury,

1334
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 1: get on the field and was in a weird situation. Obviously,

1335
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:09,720
Speaker 1: with Ryan Fitzpatrick playing pretty good football. Fitzpatrick a class act,

1336
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:13,480
Speaker 1: even giving him reps in practice, given the rookies reps

1337
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 1: so that they can get out there because he kind

1338
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 1: of knew his place and then goes out and plays.

1339
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 1: But he played in really the worst year for rookies

1340
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 1: in NFL history in terms of getting acclimated to the NFL,

1341
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 1: which is already a hard enough process. I mean, there's

1342
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 1: a reason why rookie Mini caamp is right after the draft.

1343
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:32,320
Speaker 1: It takes that long for these guys to get up

1344
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:34,800
Speaker 1: to speed, and even then some of these players it

1345
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 1: takes yet the whole year to really get fully up

1346
01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:41,080
Speaker 1: to speed. So we don't quite know. What we do

1347
01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:45,280
Speaker 1: know is Tua was very impressive at the college level. Now.

1348
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:47,640
Speaker 1: I know the detractors are going to say that he

1349
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 1: played with a bunch of all stars, and sure he did,

1350
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 1: but you could stink with a bunch of all stars.

1351
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 1: I think we overlook that fact as well. He's got

1352
01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:58,760
Speaker 1: a little bit of extra mobility that I don't think

1353
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 1: people realize that he has as well. He had that

1354
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:04,360
Speaker 1: he showed that last year. So I'm looking for him

1355
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 1: to take a step forward this year. I don't know

1356
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 1: about long term QB one upside this year. I'd be

1357
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 1: really surprised if he finished top twelve, but I wouldn't

1358
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:16,000
Speaker 1: be surprised if he finished top twenty. And I am

1359
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 1: willing to take a stab on him in the later

1360
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:21,160
Speaker 1: rounds as an upside guy because of that surrounding cast,

1361
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:23,720
Speaker 1: because you know, in addition to those guys DeVante Parker,

1362
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:26,240
Speaker 1: who gives you you kind of have like a quasi

1363
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 1: Houston set up here, Demonte Parker somewhat of a similar

1364
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:32,760
Speaker 1: skill set to DeAndre Howkins, like a poor man's DeAndre Hopkins.

1365
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 1: He's not a burner, but he can play above the rim, short, intermedia,

1366
01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:38,520
Speaker 1: all of that, and be your ex will fuller to

1367
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 1: stretch the field. Jalen Waddle with the familiarity to go

1368
01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 1: all over the place in that offense, Mike Kasicki, who's

1369
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:47,640
Speaker 1: basically your fourth wide receiver because he's not a tight end,

1370
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:52,360
Speaker 1: and then a pretty interesting running back out of the backfield,

1371
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:54,360
Speaker 1: and Miles Gaskin as long as he can hold up,

1372
01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:57,360
Speaker 1: it's not a bad setup for him at all to produce.

1373
01:03:57,760 --> 01:03:59,480
Speaker 1: So I'd take a stab on him, but you know,

1374
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 1: we just at this point don't quite know what he's

1375
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:05,480
Speaker 1: going to be. Yeah, I think that's kind of the

1376
01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:06,200
Speaker 1: thing with Tua.

1377
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:09,200
Speaker 2: He's one of the harder guys to get a read on. Sean,

1378
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:11,280
Speaker 2: can can you help us add at all? What's your

1379
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 2: kind of read on on Tula?

1380
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 4: Sorry, can't help you out here on the same boat.

1381
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:18,760
Speaker 4: I think certainly his adp at QB twenty two. Why

1382
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:20,760
Speaker 4: not take the risk. I think he's worth it. I

1383
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:24,600
Speaker 4: know I'm less concerned about Jacoby Brissette than you, ray Bon,

1384
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:27,960
Speaker 4: but I think that we can bank on him, you know,

1385
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:30,440
Speaker 4: playing an entire game and not getting subbed halfway like

1386
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:33,120
Speaker 4: last year. But you know, how can you not like

1387
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:35,760
Speaker 4: him with the surrounding talent. I mean, this is a

1388
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:37,920
Speaker 4: make or break here. If he can't really step up

1389
01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:40,720
Speaker 4: in here two with these weapons, then you know, I'm

1390
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:42,960
Speaker 4: ready to move on from him. But as Jeff mentioned,

1391
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:45,880
Speaker 4: you know, he was coming off the hip injury, you know,

1392
01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:49,640
Speaker 4: very limited offseason, no preseason, So I'm taking a little

1393
01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 4: bit easy on Tua. But this year he definitely has

1394
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:55,080
Speaker 4: to step up. But yeah, QB twenty two, You're not

1395
01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:57,560
Speaker 4: taking on that much risk by taking him, so I

1396
01:04:57,560 --> 01:04:58,600
Speaker 4: can definitely get behind it.

1397
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:01,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm here's where I am on Tua.

1398
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 2: I don't like him at ADP and I actually would

1399
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:07,480
Speaker 2: put his in the first five.

1400
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:08,000
Speaker 1: Weeks of the season.

1401
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:12,160
Speaker 2: I would put his chances of getting benched in like

1402
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:13,440
Speaker 2: how many games he gets benched?

1403
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:14,560
Speaker 1: That at one point five.

1404
01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:19,800
Speaker 2: And the reason is Miami starts the year at New England, Buffalo,

1405
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 2: at Vegas. That's that's that's a great matchup. But then

1406
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:27,120
Speaker 2: Indianapolis and at Tampa Bay, those are four of the

1407
01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:28,840
Speaker 2: five best defenses in the league.

1408
01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:30,600
Speaker 1: And he's starting the year.

1409
01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 2: And Jacoby Brissett is just waiting there, you know, like

1410
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 2: and that's a to me, that's a perfect replacement for

1411
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:39,520
Speaker 2: Ryan Fitzpatrick, like another veteran where you can bring in

1412
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:42,120
Speaker 2: who can even if the team is struggling throwing the ball,

1413
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:44,600
Speaker 2: can make a few things happen with his legs. Like,

1414
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:48,320
Speaker 2: there's just a lot that could go wrong at for

1415
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:50,800
Speaker 2: as much as could go right with Tua because of

1416
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:53,680
Speaker 2: his talent, because of the supporting cast, there's a lot

1417
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:56,880
Speaker 2: that could go wrong for fantasy owners in the first

1418
01:05:56,920 --> 01:05:57,440
Speaker 2: five weeks.

1419
01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:00,840
Speaker 1: Now Week six, Jackson Bill, Week.

1420
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:04,240
Speaker 2: Seven, Atlanta Buffalo again, but then Houston in Week nine,

1421
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 2: then Baltimore, than the Jets, then Carolina than the jug

1422
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 2: so to what has he can finish.

1423
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 3: The year very strong. But for me, he's not a

1424
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:14,120
Speaker 3: guy I draft.

1425
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 2: He's the guy that I trade for probably after either

1426
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:18,640
Speaker 2: Week two when he after he plays New England and

1427
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:21,240
Speaker 2: Buffalo and then get him for Vegas and see from there,

1428
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 2: or maybe after week five heading into Week six at

1429
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:27,880
Speaker 2: Jacksonville Atlanta that stretch. Like I just he's a mid

1430
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:30,080
Speaker 2: season on quarterback for me, he's not a start the

1431
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 2: year guy.

1432
01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:34,160
Speaker 3: I think he can hurt your rosters if you draft.

1433
01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:37,080
Speaker 2: Him, you know, just just with the intention of starting

1434
01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:37,560
Speaker 2: him early.

1435
01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:39,120
Speaker 1: I think it could. It could get ugly.

1436
01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, could I Could I take some action on that

1437
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:42,680
Speaker 4: under one and a half?

1438
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:45,880
Speaker 1: Under? Okay? Yeah? Yeah, I think do you think it's

1439
01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:47,520
Speaker 1: a fair line? Did you? Or do you think it

1440
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:48,320
Speaker 1: should be point five?

1441
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:48,840
Speaker 4: No?

1442
01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:51,760
Speaker 1: You said one point five? No? No, no, no, I'm giving

1443
01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:52,240
Speaker 1: you the action.

1444
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:56,360
Speaker 4: I'm just wondering from your perspective, which you make good points,

1445
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:58,240
Speaker 4: but yeah, one and a half that's too good to

1446
01:06:58,240 --> 01:06:58,840
Speaker 4: pass up one.

1447
01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:00,840
Speaker 1: Hundred dollars in e chair? Do you want I get

1448
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:02,360
Speaker 1: under one and a half? Okay?

1449
01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, Jacoby Brissett coming in for a goal line package

1450
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:06,640
Speaker 4: does not count, right.

1451
01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:07,840
Speaker 1: That's fair. No, that's fair.

1452
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:11,360
Speaker 2: No, No, I mean Jacoby Brissett has to throw a pass

1453
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:12,200
Speaker 2: not on the.

1454
01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:15,280
Speaker 1: Goal, like yeah, like let's play the rest of the game.

1455
01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:18,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he has to actually come in for

1456
01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:21,640
Speaker 2: the purposes of like not kneeling and yeah, to pass

1457
01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:25,120
Speaker 2: right to take under one and a half. Okay, there

1458
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:27,600
Speaker 2: we go and get some side action going. Jeff, do

1459
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:30,200
Speaker 2: you want any you want to no matter, you stay

1460
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:30,560
Speaker 2: in pack.

1461
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:33,760
Speaker 1: I'll stay foot. But I do think that the signing

1462
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 1: of Brissette is a great indication that Tua has an

1463
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:40,960
Speaker 1: extremely long leash. Really, see why don't you don't.

1464
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:42,240
Speaker 2: See you don't think you don't you were set in

1465
01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:45,360
Speaker 2: that same like top of the top tier, like backup

1466
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:46,560
Speaker 2: that you look at Fitzpatrick.

1467
01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:49,680
Speaker 1: Well, Fitzpatrick I view as a starter. So now I

1468
01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:52,480
Speaker 1: wouldn't put those guys in the same tier. Fitcy was

1469
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:55,600
Speaker 1: good enough to play out last year. But the challenge,

1470
01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:58,960
Speaker 1: and I think going back to Trey Lance, if you

1471
01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:01,960
Speaker 1: draft a quarterback that high, you got to get that

1472
01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:05,439
Speaker 1: kid on the field. Trey Lance drafted at three, they're

1473
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:08,000
Speaker 1: gonna get him on the field very quickly. And then

1474
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 1: also Matt Naggy. Remember Matt Naggy stubbornly stuck to his

1475
01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:15,040
Speaker 1: guns on David Montgomery no matter what. And don't get

1476
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:17,479
Speaker 1: me last year when he faced four of the worst

1477
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:20,839
Speaker 1: six defense run defenses in the league and the Packers

1478
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:22,880
Speaker 1: twice over the final six weeks of the year with

1479
01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:25,479
Speaker 1: nobody else on the roster, so he played every single

1480
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:28,679
Speaker 1: freaking snap. Matt Naggie sticks to his guns. So yeah,

1481
01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:31,559
Speaker 1: I think two at this point. Now you know the

1482
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:34,280
Speaker 1: show is his and I don't know. I don't I

1483
01:08:34,280 --> 01:08:37,000
Speaker 1: don't see much per set out there at all. Interesting.

1484
01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:38,000
Speaker 1: We'll see how it goes.

1485
01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:41,000
Speaker 2: I just I kind of see last year starting this

1486
01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:43,639
Speaker 2: beginning of the years kind of starting more the same

1487
01:08:44,040 --> 01:08:44,760
Speaker 2: as last year.

1488
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:46,639
Speaker 1: But we will see.

1489
01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:49,720
Speaker 3: Uh, let's move on to a couple more guys.

1490
01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:52,799
Speaker 1: I want to get to one. I think it's interesting.

1491
01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:55,200
Speaker 2: I'm higher on this guy than a lot of people,

1492
01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:56,880
Speaker 2: and that's Zach Wilson.

1493
01:08:56,920 --> 01:08:59,000
Speaker 3: So, Jeff, I want to get your take on him.

1494
01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:02,000
Speaker 2: My take on Zach Wilson is and it's more of

1495
01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:03,760
Speaker 2: a value proposition thing.

1496
01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:05,960
Speaker 3: It's like there are quarterbacks going above him.

1497
01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:07,200
Speaker 1: Rookie quarterbacks going.

1498
01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:10,599
Speaker 3: Above him that we don't know how much they're gonna start.

1499
01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:15,760
Speaker 2: Zach Wilson's going where he's could essentially almost be free

1500
01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:18,080
Speaker 2: in a two QB league. He's going at QB twenty eight.

1501
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:21,599
Speaker 2: I just think he has a really high ceiling. Given

1502
01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:23,479
Speaker 2: that the Jets could be a bad team. It could

1503
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:25,840
Speaker 2: be throwing a lot. He does have decent weapons on

1504
01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:28,599
Speaker 2: the outside. He can make all the throws. Now, He's

1505
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:30,400
Speaker 2: not going to give you much running the ball, obviously,

1506
01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:32,280
Speaker 2: and that's you know, that is what it is. That's

1507
01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:34,960
Speaker 2: why he's not a sexy pick. But I just think

1508
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:38,440
Speaker 2: twenty eight, like I'm not like there's almost no downside

1509
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:41,519
Speaker 2: for me there, Whereas if I'm taking a guy, especially

1510
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:43,120
Speaker 2: in a two QB league or when I have a

1511
01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:47,160
Speaker 2: better streaming option, like a little earlier, I just feel

1512
01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:49,680
Speaker 2: like there's more downside there. So tak me in or

1513
01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:52,360
Speaker 2: out of Zach Wilson because I'm really high in him

1514
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:53,720
Speaker 2: at QB twenty eight.

1515
01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:56,599
Speaker 1: Well, he is going to give you running the football.

1516
01:09:56,600 --> 01:10:00,360
Speaker 1: He's extremely mobile. He was awesome last year at EYU.

1517
01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:03,200
Speaker 1: The kid will you know he'll score touchdowns as a runner.

1518
01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:06,320
Speaker 1: He'll run. He's not afraid to do that whatsoever, and

1519
01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:09,120
Speaker 1: certainly athletic enough to do that. Now you mentioned two

1520
01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:11,800
Speaker 1: quarterback league. I think that's really important. And a lot

1521
01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:13,600
Speaker 1: of people when they ask me, well, when should I

1522
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:16,719
Speaker 1: draft a quarterback, and they want me to say round one,

1523
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:20,519
Speaker 1: round two, round three, But Chris, I'm like you, I

1524
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:23,840
Speaker 1: actually say after ten quarterbacks are drafted. So he said twelve,

1525
01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:25,960
Speaker 1: I say ted same thing. I want to get two

1526
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:28,519
Speaker 1: in between ten and twenty basically, And that means if

1527
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:31,519
Speaker 1: you're drafting right now in a two quarterback league or

1528
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:33,880
Speaker 1: a super flex league, and your home leagues, make note

1529
01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:37,840
Speaker 1: of these people, take stock of how many quarterbacks are drafted.

1530
01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:40,040
Speaker 1: It sounds so simple, but so many people get so

1531
01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:43,240
Speaker 1: focused on just what they're doing that they neglect to

1532
01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:46,160
Speaker 1: see what their opponents are doing. Right, So pay attention.

1533
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:48,360
Speaker 1: Once those ten are off the board, it might be

1534
01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:50,479
Speaker 1: round three, might be round four when you're up in

1535
01:10:50,520 --> 01:10:52,320
Speaker 1: ten or off the board, or twelve or off the board,

1536
01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:55,000
Speaker 1: might be round five. I can't tell you. But then

1537
01:10:55,080 --> 01:10:57,840
Speaker 1: attack it. Grab two in between ten and twenty or

1538
01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:00,840
Speaker 1: twelve and twenty if you subscribe to chriss I, either way,

1539
01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:03,600
Speaker 1: I'm good with it. The next inflection point for me

1540
01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:05,960
Speaker 1: is twenty four. When twenty four are off the board,

1541
01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:08,360
Speaker 1: I want to get the third quarterback. We don't want

1542
01:11:08,439 --> 01:11:10,160
Speaker 1: to be left. I had this happen to me won

1543
01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:12,680
Speaker 1: too many times back in the day, where all the

1544
01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:15,639
Speaker 1: starters were gone and there were no upside rookies left

1545
01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:17,679
Speaker 1: and I just took a backup to take a backup,

1546
01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:20,400
Speaker 1: and it never works out. Zach Wilson is like the

1547
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:24,439
Speaker 1: target for me is my third quarterback in two quarterback league. Okay, okay,

1548
01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:26,960
Speaker 1: we're on the same page. Then, yeah, exactly. Well now

1549
01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:30,080
Speaker 1: in a one quarterback league, not going to be looking

1550
01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:32,320
Speaker 1: at him. He's going too late. He's a streamer. But

1551
01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:34,479
Speaker 1: the nice thing is he has a long leash. It

1552
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:36,800
Speaker 1: could take a little bit of time here, just in

1553
01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:39,320
Speaker 1: general for the Jets to gel. They have some pieces

1554
01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:42,840
Speaker 1: along the offensive line that are interesting. Elijah Vera Tucker,

1555
01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:48,000
Speaker 1: Makai Becton. They obviously have some intriguing talent a wide receiver, though,

1556
01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:49,760
Speaker 1: I want to know, how are you going to get

1557
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:52,720
Speaker 1: Elijah Moore on the field when you have Jamison Crowder there?

1558
01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:55,400
Speaker 1: So do they try and move Jamison Crowder? We'll see

1559
01:11:55,760 --> 01:11:59,880
Speaker 1: you have some interesting talent Corey Davis coming over den

1560
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:04,240
Speaker 1: On Mims. There the unicorn if he ever hits Chris Herndon,

1561
01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:08,240
Speaker 1: and then of course a very capable Austin Exell Eckler

1562
01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:11,920
Speaker 1: clone out of the backfield in Michael Carter. It's an

1563
01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:15,120
Speaker 1: interesting situation, but it could be very bumpy the ride

1564
01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:17,120
Speaker 1: along the way. Some people out there want to be

1565
01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:20,479
Speaker 1: lazy and say Patrick Mahomes that don't let's not no,

1566
01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:23,080
Speaker 1: We're not compying players to Patrick Mahomes right now. They

1567
01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:26,519
Speaker 1: better be darn generational to come to him. But he

1568
01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:30,640
Speaker 1: can make off platform throws, big boy throws that a

1569
01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:32,800
Speaker 1: lot of quarterbacks can't make, and I think that's where

1570
01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:35,400
Speaker 1: people are going with the Mahomes or sometimes people will

1571
01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:37,760
Speaker 1: say he can make throws like Rogers makes. Rodgers can

1572
01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:42,000
Speaker 1: make throws that ordinary, extraordinary any other human being can't make,

1573
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:46,240
Speaker 1: and Wilson showed that. But it's easier to do that

1574
01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:50,799
Speaker 1: at BYU against that competition than it is against NFL

1575
01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:53,519
Speaker 1: caliber players week in and week out. Also, he is

1576
01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:56,200
Speaker 1: a one year wonder, so we have a couple question marks.

1577
01:12:56,600 --> 01:12:59,400
Speaker 1: But Rayvaughon, like you said, though, for the price, the

1578
01:12:59,479 --> 01:13:03,320
Speaker 1: upside of the getting and the extremely long runway, Like

1579
01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:06,639
Speaker 1: he doesn't even have a backup. Really, there's nobody there.

1580
01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:10,599
Speaker 1: There is no James Morgan. Really that's our backup. He's

1581
01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:12,720
Speaker 1: gonna play the entire year, so it's it's a good

1582
01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:13,559
Speaker 1: spot to take him.

1583
01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:15,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it'll be clear. I didn't mean like he

1584
01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:17,120
Speaker 2: can't run, like he's a statue. I just meant, like

1585
01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:19,280
Speaker 2: when you compare his like scramble rate to some of

1586
01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:22,800
Speaker 2: the other quarterbacks, because I love scrambles, scrambles, like I

1587
01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:25,439
Speaker 2: like scrambles more than design runs, because scrambles are like

1588
01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:27,599
Speaker 2: past attempt yardage out of the time, Like you get

1589
01:13:27,640 --> 01:13:29,320
Speaker 2: like six seven, eight yards on those things.

1590
01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:31,200
Speaker 3: So I like guys that, like they'll drop back to

1591
01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:33,679
Speaker 3: pass and still scramble.

1592
01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:35,400
Speaker 2: And Wilson has it isn't doing as much of that

1593
01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:38,479
Speaker 2: as like fields for example. But yeah, he can, he

1594
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:42,000
Speaker 2: can move, and he's got a cannon arm. Now we're

1595
01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:44,559
Speaker 2: not compared to the Mahomes. All I'm saying is this

1596
01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:48,200
Speaker 2: guy can make all the throws. And I mean I

1597
01:13:48,240 --> 01:13:50,280
Speaker 2: think what we might see is how do you get

1598
01:13:50,280 --> 01:13:52,800
Speaker 2: more on the field to your point, Maybe you go

1599
01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:55,200
Speaker 2: a little more four wide and things like that. I mean,

1600
01:13:55,240 --> 01:13:57,479
Speaker 2: why not I mean you have four good receivers and

1601
01:13:57,520 --> 01:13:59,800
Speaker 2: you don't. You have a tight end that's been on

1602
01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:01,960
Speaker 2: a milk carton for the past like two seasons. So

1603
01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:04,559
Speaker 2: you know, I think we can see a lot of that.

1604
01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:07,000
Speaker 2: But but Sean, like I know I've been like beating

1605
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:07,760
Speaker 2: Wilson in your.

1606
01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:10,200
Speaker 1: Head all summer. Where are you on Wilson at this point?

1607
01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:12,120
Speaker 4: You don't need to beat him in my head? I

1608
01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:15,559
Speaker 4: already agree with you, man like definitely low end QB

1609
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:19,719
Speaker 4: one upside, you know, dual threat ability, willingness to be aggressive,

1610
01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:23,240
Speaker 4: and he's entering a much better situation than Sam Darnold

1611
01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:26,719
Speaker 4: ever had. No Adam Gase OC Michael Floor is gonna

1612
01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:29,599
Speaker 4: run a Shanahan cell offense, which I love. I think

1613
01:14:29,640 --> 01:14:32,920
Speaker 4: Wilson can thrive in that and great pass catching talent

1614
01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:36,160
Speaker 4: around him. I'm very bullish on Elijah Moore, so I

1615
01:14:36,200 --> 01:14:38,400
Speaker 4: hope will figures out a way to get him on

1616
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:38,719
Speaker 4: the field.

1617
01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:39,400
Speaker 1: I think they will.

1618
01:14:40,439 --> 01:14:42,920
Speaker 4: But you know, when it comes to Wilson, like his

1619
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:45,320
Speaker 4: ADP at QB twenty eight, this is a smash spot

1620
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:48,680
Speaker 4: for me because unlike Justin Fields and Trey Lance, like,

1621
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:51,320
Speaker 4: there's no doubt he's the weak one starter Jeff Matchin.

1622
01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:54,360
Speaker 4: He's gonna play the entire season. He has no competition whatsoever.

1623
01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:58,040
Speaker 4: It's really hard to pass him up this late. Definitely,

1624
01:14:58,080 --> 01:15:01,120
Speaker 4: like two QB leagues. Take him late. He could be

1625
01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:03,880
Speaker 4: like on your bench, but he has that upside. You

1626
01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:07,479
Speaker 4: know that's worth taking a It's not even taking a gamble.

1627
01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:09,400
Speaker 4: Like it's so late, there's nothing to lose, you might

1628
01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:10,400
Speaker 4: as well take him this late.

1629
01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:13,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, just to look at that, like

1630
01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:16,840
Speaker 2: early season slate week one, you can start him at

1631
01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:20,479
Speaker 2: Carolina against Sam Donald. That's the comparison I hate, Like,

1632
01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:22,880
Speaker 2: that's the one I hate. It's like, oh, well, Sam

1633
01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:26,120
Speaker 2: Donald was good, Dug Zach Wuston probably you know Jets.

1634
01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:29,160
Speaker 2: It's like, nah, man like this, Like if Zach Wilson fails,

1635
01:15:29,160 --> 01:15:31,439
Speaker 2: it will be for different reasons, I think than Sam Donald,

1636
01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:34,160
Speaker 2: who I just think wasn't a very good quarterback. But

1637
01:15:34,439 --> 01:15:38,479
Speaker 2: you have week one at Carolina and then weeks two

1638
01:15:38,479 --> 01:15:41,120
Speaker 2: and three. I stashed him because he's playing New England

1639
01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:43,719
Speaker 2: and at Denver. I don't want my quarterback playing the

1640
01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:47,120
Speaker 2: Patriots defense this year. I'm saying that now. And I

1641
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:50,439
Speaker 2: don't want my quarterback playing early season in Mile High

1642
01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:53,200
Speaker 2: either as a rookie, So those two I probably stashing

1643
01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:55,040
Speaker 2: him if you can get away with dropping him and

1644
01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:55,880
Speaker 2: you think he'll be there.

1645
01:15:55,920 --> 01:15:56,360
Speaker 1: Maybe.

1646
01:15:56,520 --> 01:16:00,160
Speaker 2: But Week four Tennessee, Week five at Atlanta, you as

1647
01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:03,120
Speaker 2: Zach Wilson, you can get three QB one performances in

1648
01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:06,000
Speaker 2: the first five weeks, maybe three even high end if

1649
01:16:06,040 --> 01:16:08,160
Speaker 2: the Jets are really you know, go down big and

1650
01:16:08,240 --> 01:16:11,040
Speaker 2: you know Tennessee Atlanta, those two teams can score, and

1651
01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:13,760
Speaker 2: Carolina is you know their defense was soft last year,

1652
01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:15,960
Speaker 2: So highlight Wilson a lot.

1653
01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:18,680
Speaker 1: Uh let's uh one and the.

1654
01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:22,400
Speaker 2: Other major kind of question mark I think heading into

1655
01:16:22,439 --> 01:16:24,640
Speaker 2: the season for for some people more than others is

1656
01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:28,040
Speaker 2: Jeff like, what's going on with the Saints like Taysom Hill,

1657
01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:28,919
Speaker 2: Jameis Winston.

1658
01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:31,679
Speaker 3: Both of these guys have been high end QB ones

1659
01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:32,799
Speaker 3: when they played.

1660
01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:36,839
Speaker 2: Where how are you projecting how they're kind of starts

1661
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:41,960
Speaker 2: kind of shake out for those two guys, I think.

1662
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:45,240
Speaker 1: That Jamis Winston is ultimately going to be the quarterback.

1663
01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:47,679
Speaker 1: And I point to a couple you got to read

1664
01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:50,080
Speaker 1: through the lines, read the tea leaves a little bit.

1665
01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:55,360
Speaker 1: But Mickey Loomis appeared on the Adams Shine podcast and

1666
01:16:56,280 --> 01:17:00,799
Speaker 1: had a really interesting quote. He said, I think Taysom

1667
01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:03,599
Speaker 1: Hill is a very good football player. He said, heck,

1668
01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:06,639
Speaker 1: he could even be a top flight tight end to

1669
01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:10,120
Speaker 1: top flight h back if he wanted to be. He

1670
01:17:10,360 --> 01:17:15,280
Speaker 1: very carefully said football player, not quarterback. And I think

1671
01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:19,040
Speaker 1: that's really telling. Now, obviously they're going to compete. Drew

1672
01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:21,200
Speaker 1: Brees has come out and said that he thinks we're

1673
01:17:21,280 --> 01:17:23,840
Speaker 1: still going to see plenty of Taysom Hill. But I

1674
01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:26,960
Speaker 1: do think it's Jamis's jobs. Like Jamis could have potentially

1675
01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:30,520
Speaker 1: went other or you know, elsewhere that is in free agency,

1676
01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:35,200
Speaker 1: and he didn't. He stuck around. So to me, did

1677
01:17:35,240 --> 01:17:38,519
Speaker 1: Tasom Hill do enough to pass the audition last year?

1678
01:17:39,280 --> 01:17:41,920
Speaker 1: It ain't baseball. I don't care what the win lost

1679
01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:45,519
Speaker 1: record is. It doesn't matter to me. At quarterback, the

1680
01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:48,920
Speaker 1: performance is what matters. And when you went from Tasom

1681
01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:51,960
Speaker 1: Hill to Drew Brees, you had to dramatically alter your offense,

1682
01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:55,080
Speaker 1: and in a lot of ways, you cannibalized your top

1683
01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:58,759
Speaker 1: offensive weapon by having Taysom Hill in the field because

1684
01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:03,639
Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara for stretches was almost nonexistent. So I don't

1685
01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:06,479
Speaker 1: see that happening now. Obviously, Jamis has his own set

1686
01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:09,760
Speaker 1: of problems to come with him, but I do think

1687
01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:13,720
Speaker 1: ultimately it's gonna be his job. Now again, here we

1688
01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:16,720
Speaker 1: are in July talking about this and what I've done.

1689
01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:19,160
Speaker 1: You know, I've certainly loaded up on either one of

1690
01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:22,080
Speaker 1: these guys in best balls, because if either one of

1691
01:18:22,120 --> 01:18:25,879
Speaker 1: them gets a job, they're gonna dramatically outplay their their ADP. Currently,

1692
01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:29,240
Speaker 1: I don't know if ADP rises that much by the

1693
01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:31,439
Speaker 1: time we get into the heart of fantasy draft season

1694
01:18:31,479 --> 01:18:33,479
Speaker 1: next month, because well, I don't know if we're gonna

1695
01:18:33,479 --> 01:18:37,160
Speaker 1: actually fully know who the starter is gonna be almost

1696
01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:40,040
Speaker 1: maybe until Week one. It's gonna be a really interesting setup.

1697
01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:42,200
Speaker 1: But if I had to choose one, it is Jamis.

1698
01:18:42,240 --> 01:18:44,639
Speaker 1: I think he's ultimately gonna be the He's the better

1699
01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:48,240
Speaker 1: quote unquote quarterback for the team. Taysom's the better weapon

1700
01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:50,920
Speaker 1: for the team. Will still see him our fair share

1701
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:53,719
Speaker 1: as well. John, what do you think on this one?

1702
01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:57,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's tough because this is you know, not only

1703
01:18:57,800 --> 01:18:59,960
Speaker 4: is it tough to project the quarterbacks, but the entire

1704
01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:03,920
Speaker 4: offense changes based on who's hunder center. So it makes

1705
01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:07,599
Speaker 4: the Saints one of the biggest headaches to project right now,

1706
01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:10,160
Speaker 4: And I agree with Jeff where I think Jamis will

1707
01:19:10,160 --> 01:19:12,800
Speaker 4: probably start the year as the quarterback, but he, of

1708
01:19:12,800 --> 01:19:15,439
Speaker 4: all people, can play his way out of this pretty quickly.

1709
01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:18,960
Speaker 4: We've seen him be very turnover prone. So I prefer

1710
01:19:19,160 --> 01:19:21,639
Speaker 4: Tamos or there.

1711
01:19:21,479 --> 01:19:25,439
Speaker 1: You go, there it is rightos.

1712
01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:27,920
Speaker 4: You could take both of them in best ball if

1713
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:31,320
Speaker 4: you want, but I prefer Taysom Hill just because like

1714
01:19:31,439 --> 01:19:34,640
Speaker 4: he's there. If if Jamis falters, Taysom Hill will come in.

1715
01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:38,200
Speaker 4: And we saw he has you know, QB one upside

1716
01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:41,559
Speaker 4: when he's playing because of his rushing ability. But even

1717
01:19:41,640 --> 01:19:45,559
Speaker 4: if Jamis starts all sixteen games or seventeen games, you know,

1718
01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:47,639
Speaker 4: Taysom Hill has a role. So there's gonna be weeks

1719
01:19:47,640 --> 01:19:50,599
Speaker 4: where he scores a touchdown, catches the pass, runs the ball,

1720
01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:54,559
Speaker 4: so he'll at least give you some scores. Whereas you know,

1721
01:19:54,880 --> 01:19:59,120
Speaker 4: like if Taysom Hill takes over, he's the quarterback, so

1722
01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:01,360
Speaker 4: that's very possible. I just think Taysom Hill offers the

1723
01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:06,360
Speaker 4: highest ceiling in this range and a higher weekly for Yeah.

1724
01:20:06,200 --> 01:20:10,120
Speaker 2: I actually Land, I'm pro Taysom as well. I think

1725
01:20:10,160 --> 01:20:14,880
Speaker 2: Taysom makes more starts. I actually wean toward Taysom starting

1726
01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:16,559
Speaker 2: Week one as well. And here's why.

1727
01:20:16,600 --> 01:20:17,040
Speaker 1: Here's why.

1728
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:19,400
Speaker 2: And I've kind of thought this through and I could

1729
01:20:19,400 --> 01:20:21,880
Speaker 2: be very wrong, but I just try to put my

1730
01:20:22,200 --> 01:20:23,839
Speaker 2: mind in like the franchise.

1731
01:20:23,920 --> 01:20:27,080
Speaker 3: I like that point that you made, Jeff about Mickey Loomis.

1732
01:20:27,160 --> 01:20:29,920
Speaker 2: What I will say to that is that, first of all,

1733
01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:34,080
Speaker 2: I know that that positional thing comes into play with contracts,

1734
01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:37,160
Speaker 2: you know, right, So like if he calls him a

1735
01:20:37,160 --> 01:20:39,880
Speaker 2: flat out quarterback and they want to keep him sometime

1736
01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:41,640
Speaker 2: down the line, they're gonna have to pay him as

1737
01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:43,960
Speaker 2: a quarterback. That could be the reason why he was

1738
01:20:44,080 --> 01:20:47,200
Speaker 2: very careful around that. But ultimately the guy making the

1739
01:20:47,280 --> 01:20:48,240
Speaker 2: decisions is going.

1740
01:20:48,160 --> 01:20:48,920
Speaker 1: To be Sean Payton.

1741
01:20:49,280 --> 01:20:53,320
Speaker 3: Sean Payne showed me last year that who where he

1742
01:20:53,320 --> 01:20:53,760
Speaker 3: wants to go.

1743
01:20:53,840 --> 01:20:56,040
Speaker 2: He showed it for a while now he's it's always

1744
01:20:56,120 --> 01:20:58,640
Speaker 2: gay Taysoum's always been kind of his man crush. But

1745
01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:03,479
Speaker 2: remember Taysom's involved in the game plan. So when he's

1746
01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:06,040
Speaker 2: not starting a quarterback, he's involved in a special team's

1747
01:21:06,040 --> 01:21:07,240
Speaker 2: game plan, he's involved in.

1748
01:21:07,200 --> 01:21:08,160
Speaker 1: The offensive game point.

1749
01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:10,439
Speaker 2: He was one of their better receivers for the last

1750
01:21:10,439 --> 01:21:14,280
Speaker 2: couple of years, to be honest, So yeah, the first

1751
01:21:14,280 --> 01:21:17,040
Speaker 2: time Breeze gets hurt, Jamis is the guy that's gonna

1752
01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:19,800
Speaker 2: come in because Taysom has a role in the rest

1753
01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:21,640
Speaker 2: of the game plan. But the minute they had a

1754
01:21:21,720 --> 01:21:24,599
Speaker 2: chance to shift that, you didn't see Jamis again. You

1755
01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:28,040
Speaker 2: saw Jamis again like a glorified what Jakobe we said,

1756
01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:29,680
Speaker 2: like he threw like a pass in the postseason or

1757
01:21:29,680 --> 01:21:33,320
Speaker 2: something like, you really didn't see him again. I think

1758
01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:36,479
Speaker 2: that in his heart of hearts, regardless of what anything like,

1759
01:21:36,640 --> 01:21:39,280
Speaker 2: regardless of what they're saying, Like, I think Sean Payton

1760
01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:42,160
Speaker 2: wants to start Taysom, and so I think even if

1761
01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:44,840
Speaker 2: Jamis does get denied, I think he's going to have

1762
01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:47,760
Speaker 2: a really short leash as he's always had because that's

1763
01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:50,720
Speaker 2: the one thing. It's like Taysom wasn't Taysoum was still

1764
01:21:50,720 --> 01:21:53,200
Speaker 2: making better decisions than Jamis. And I'm not really buying

1765
01:21:53,200 --> 01:21:56,840
Speaker 2: into the Camara him killing Kamara's value because for one,

1766
01:21:57,280 --> 01:22:00,840
Speaker 2: Taysom was very successful with Michael Thomas. So it's like, oh,

1767
01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:03,240
Speaker 2: are we now gonna say that like Drew Brees couldn't

1768
01:22:03,280 --> 01:22:05,479
Speaker 2: play with Michael Thomas anymore, because like you know what

1769
01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:07,439
Speaker 2: I mean, I think it was just a very small sample,

1770
01:22:07,680 --> 01:22:10,240
Speaker 2: and like if you have a whole year of offseason

1771
01:22:10,439 --> 01:22:13,040
Speaker 2: and and and every week to game plan, you're gonna

1772
01:22:13,080 --> 01:22:15,040
Speaker 2: get the ball to Kamara and Thomas. It was just

1773
01:22:15,160 --> 01:22:16,920
Speaker 2: you had that one game with Denver where they bear

1774
01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:19,320
Speaker 2: me through, and then another game where Thomas had like

1775
01:22:19,360 --> 01:22:20,120
Speaker 2: all the targets.

1776
01:22:20,120 --> 01:22:22,000
Speaker 1: Like, I just think that was a small sample. So

1777
01:22:22,479 --> 01:22:23,200
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know.

1778
01:22:23,240 --> 01:22:25,559
Speaker 2: I just think that, like I don't think Sean Payne

1779
01:22:25,560 --> 01:22:27,360
Speaker 2: can help himself. I guess this is what I'm saying.

1780
01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:30,080
Speaker 2: I just think that he's gonna be We're gonna see

1781
01:22:30,120 --> 01:22:31,519
Speaker 2: more taste them. But like, I don't know, am I

1782
01:22:31,560 --> 01:22:33,360
Speaker 2: crazy for just like kind of writing that off as

1783
01:22:33,360 --> 01:22:35,680
Speaker 2: a small sample With the Kamara thing, Like I get it,

1784
01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:37,920
Speaker 2: Taysom's not gonna They're not gonna have as many attempts

1785
01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:39,400
Speaker 2: as they would under Jamis.

1786
01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:41,400
Speaker 1: But like you could game point and get the ball

1787
01:22:41,439 --> 01:22:45,599
Speaker 1: to Kamara, right, I mean there, yes, can you execute

1788
01:22:45,640 --> 01:22:48,479
Speaker 1: it all? I mean, I mean there's an argument to

1789
01:22:48,520 --> 01:22:50,800
Speaker 1: be made that Jamis can't execute that either. You know,

1790
01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:54,519
Speaker 1: they never watched what does he do? He only looks

1791
01:22:54,520 --> 01:22:58,160
Speaker 1: straight downfield, He looks fifteen plus yards downfield, and whoever's

1792
01:22:58,200 --> 01:23:01,240
Speaker 1: there if they're triple covered, even He's gonna throw him

1793
01:23:01,240 --> 01:23:03,679
Speaker 1: the freaking football. That's what James does. So I don't

1794
01:23:03,680 --> 01:23:07,639
Speaker 1: know if he has the capability to check down and

1795
01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:10,320
Speaker 1: deliver the ball a lot of those breeze targets as well.

1796
01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:13,719
Speaker 1: Definitely a transitional phase, I will say, though, now anybody

1797
01:23:13,960 --> 01:23:16,840
Speaker 1: people are like, oh, listening to this being nervous about Kamara,

1798
01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:19,920
Speaker 1: he also has the Al Bundy likability to score six

1799
01:23:20,000 --> 01:23:23,200
Speaker 1: touchdowns in a single football game, So we have we

1800
01:23:23,320 --> 01:23:24,680
Speaker 1: have to note that that's.

1801
01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:27,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's this is why I like, I try to

1802
01:23:27,479 --> 01:23:30,639
Speaker 2: keep the Kamara argument out of like the Jamis versus

1803
01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:32,760
Speaker 2: Taysom thing. Like, I get it. It's a good it's

1804
01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:35,559
Speaker 2: a great thing. It's a great observation. I just don't

1805
01:23:35,560 --> 01:23:38,040
Speaker 2: think it's like it carries over I guess, is what

1806
01:23:38,040 --> 01:23:40,720
Speaker 2: I'm saying. But all right, let's let's wrap it up

1807
01:23:40,760 --> 01:23:44,599
Speaker 2: with any Is there anyone else we care about, you know,

1808
01:23:45,160 --> 01:23:50,640
Speaker 2: Ryan Fitzpatrick, Derreck Carr, Daniel Jones, Cam Newton, Matt Jones,

1809
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:55,799
Speaker 2: you know, Darnold obviously, like anyone else we care about?

1810
01:23:56,000 --> 01:23:57,960
Speaker 2: Or do we kind of hit on all the guys

1811
01:23:57,960 --> 01:23:59,720
Speaker 2: that people should be worried about Yeah.

1812
01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:03,519
Speaker 1: I mean, for me Fitzpatrick first and foremost, I talk

1813
01:24:03,560 --> 01:24:06,519
Speaker 1: about a long leash. He doesn't. He has Taylor Heineke

1814
01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:09,160
Speaker 1: as his backup. This is not a situation where Washington

1815
01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:11,560
Speaker 1: drafted a quarterback. I think they're trying to make a

1816
01:24:11,640 --> 01:24:14,040
Speaker 1: legit playoff push. They have the defense to do so.

1817
01:24:14,400 --> 01:24:16,800
Speaker 1: They made some key additions on the offensive side of

1818
01:24:16,840 --> 01:24:20,240
Speaker 1: the ball. Obviously, keeping Brandon Schurf in house helped the

1819
01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:23,880
Speaker 1: cause as well. He's got great weapons. And now it's

1820
01:24:23,960 --> 01:24:28,400
Speaker 1: not a situation where Terry mcclaurin put up really big

1821
01:24:28,479 --> 01:24:31,120
Speaker 1: numbers last year, not touchdown numbers, but really big catch numbers,

1822
01:24:31,200 --> 01:24:34,120
Speaker 1: yardage numbers with nobody throwing them the football. Now he

1823
01:24:34,160 --> 01:24:35,519
Speaker 1: has a guy with some mocks and he's going to

1824
01:24:35,560 --> 01:24:39,000
Speaker 1: push the ball downfield. You bring it, Curtis Samuel, hopefully

1825
01:24:39,880 --> 01:24:42,439
Speaker 1: Ron Rivera you watching and listening. I know you are.

1826
01:24:43,120 --> 01:24:46,400
Speaker 1: No he's not, but just don't use Curtis Samuel the

1827
01:24:46,439 --> 01:24:48,719
Speaker 1: way that he was used in twenty nineteen. It did

1828
01:24:48,720 --> 01:24:51,960
Speaker 1: not work. An a dot of fourteen plus yards doesn't

1829
01:24:51,960 --> 01:24:53,880
Speaker 1: work for Curtis Samuel. Take a page out of Joe

1830
01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:56,040
Speaker 1: Brady's book and give him a nice like seven and

1831
01:24:56,439 --> 01:24:58,880
Speaker 1: a half yard a dot. Get him in space, let

1832
01:24:58,960 --> 01:25:00,639
Speaker 1: him do the things he did at all Ohio State,

1833
01:25:00,880 --> 01:25:03,479
Speaker 1: Logan Thomas, let him just be a tight end. Now

1834
01:25:03,479 --> 01:25:06,599
Speaker 1: he's not a converted quarterback anymore. You have some really

1835
01:25:06,640 --> 01:25:10,000
Speaker 1: good role players plus Miami Brown there Adam Humphries. If

1836
01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:12,479
Speaker 1: he can stay healthy. Obviously the concussion issue a little

1837
01:25:12,479 --> 01:25:14,840
Speaker 1: bit concerning, but hey, if he's there on the field,

1838
01:25:14,840 --> 01:25:16,960
Speaker 1: we know he can still be productive even at his age.

1839
01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:20,599
Speaker 1: The backfield, Mackissic and of course Antonio Gibson. It's really

1840
01:25:20,640 --> 01:25:23,760
Speaker 1: set up quite well for FITZI and he can run

1841
01:25:23,760 --> 01:25:25,960
Speaker 1: the football a little bit. And I'm still willing. I'm

1842
01:25:25,960 --> 01:25:27,960
Speaker 1: willing to give Daniel Jones the benefit of the doubt

1843
01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:30,000
Speaker 1: one more year. If he doesn't do it this year,

1844
01:25:30,040 --> 01:25:32,320
Speaker 1: he's dead. To me. It's never going to happen. But

1845
01:25:32,479 --> 01:25:35,679
Speaker 1: you got Kenny Galladay in Kadarius Tony when he eventually

1846
01:25:35,720 --> 01:25:37,720
Speaker 1: gets on the field, because it doesn't look like he'll

1847
01:25:37,720 --> 01:25:39,720
Speaker 1: be a starter from the gate, but you got to

1848
01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:43,120
Speaker 1: get him on the field at some point. Weapons weapons, weapons,

1849
01:25:43,160 --> 01:25:45,640
Speaker 1: and if Saquon can stay healthy, that opens things up

1850
01:25:45,680 --> 01:25:48,840
Speaker 1: even more. Daniel Jones has the wheels. We know He's

1851
01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:51,960
Speaker 1: a good running quarterback, so I'm willing if it's like

1852
01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:55,120
Speaker 1: a last round, I'll pay that. I have no issue

1853
01:25:55,120 --> 01:25:57,479
Speaker 1: spending basically nothing, because the best part, too is if

1854
01:25:57,479 --> 01:26:00,840
Speaker 1: he doesn't hit, you just cut him, Like there's not

1855
01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:02,920
Speaker 1: much value costs there to your team if you just

1856
01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:04,600
Speaker 1: caught him. So those are the two guys who I

1857
01:26:04,640 --> 01:26:07,200
Speaker 1: would say late round guys in one quarterback leagues that

1858
01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:08,280
Speaker 1: we didn't discuss.

1859
01:26:08,800 --> 01:26:11,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, and listeners of this show probably are having deja

1860
01:26:11,560 --> 01:26:14,280
Speaker 2: vu because Jeff I said the same thing to Sean

1861
01:26:14,320 --> 01:26:17,760
Speaker 2: about about about Curtis Samuel about my concerned, I'm like,

1862
01:26:17,760 --> 01:26:19,840
Speaker 2: oh man, they brought in Adam Humphries. That means they're

1863
01:26:19,840 --> 01:26:21,360
Speaker 2: going to try to play Samuel like they did in

1864
01:26:21,400 --> 01:26:24,599
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen and it's not gonna go. Well, that's really

1865
01:26:24,640 --> 01:26:27,679
Speaker 2: my only concern. I do like fits beyond that Jones.

1866
01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:30,080
Speaker 2: I would just caution people because because even you know,

1867
01:26:30,120 --> 01:26:31,760
Speaker 2: I was high on Jones last year, but it was

1868
01:26:31,760 --> 01:26:35,160
Speaker 2: like a similar situation. Uh, the first couple of weeks

1869
01:26:35,160 --> 01:26:38,080
Speaker 2: are tough, and this year it's kind of the same thing.

1870
01:26:38,240 --> 01:26:40,760
Speaker 2: Denver and at Washington, you're probably not going to use

1871
01:26:40,800 --> 01:26:42,840
Speaker 2: him to Week three against Dwana so keep that in

1872
01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:45,920
Speaker 2: mind through thinking of investing in Jones. But Sean, anyone

1873
01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:48,360
Speaker 2: else for you that we haven't really kind of gone

1874
01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:50,120
Speaker 2: over that you may be targeting.

1875
01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:53,320
Speaker 4: No, you guys stole my thunder. My guy is Daniel

1876
01:26:53,400 --> 01:26:57,640
Speaker 4: Jones at QB twenty six, specifically for Best Ball. You know,

1877
01:26:57,720 --> 01:26:59,640
Speaker 4: he has that sneaky, rushing upside where I think it

1878
01:26:59,720 --> 01:27:01,400
Speaker 4: was weak twelve last year he started to have the

1879
01:27:01,439 --> 01:27:05,040
Speaker 4: handy issues, the ankle injury. So he comes with that

1880
01:27:05,200 --> 01:27:07,360
Speaker 4: upside you want in Best Ball where you get those

1881
01:27:07,439 --> 01:27:08,840
Speaker 4: bike weeks and then you don't have to worry about

1882
01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:11,920
Speaker 4: the duds, which there will certainly be duds, but you

1883
01:27:11,920 --> 01:27:14,479
Speaker 4: know that late How how can you pass him up there?

1884
01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:19,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally agree. Like Daniel, think he's got a lot

1885
01:27:19,720 --> 01:27:22,560
Speaker 2: around him. Worried about the first couple weeks in a redraft,

1886
01:27:22,600 --> 01:27:24,080
Speaker 2: but season one.

1887
01:27:23,920 --> 01:27:24,759
Speaker 1: Still has some upside.

1888
01:27:24,840 --> 01:27:27,599
Speaker 2: Just just just stay upright, Daniel, don't strip over your

1889
01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:30,679
Speaker 2: own feet when you can have wide open touchdowns. Because Bro,

1890
01:27:31,320 --> 01:27:34,400
Speaker 2: I mean bro, We're going to close the show now,

1891
01:27:35,240 --> 01:27:38,679
Speaker 2: So I'm just gonna ask both of you guys a question.

1892
01:27:39,040 --> 01:27:40,320
Speaker 1: It's really a two part question.

1893
01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:44,760
Speaker 2: Part one, you are your favorite late round quarterback targets.

1894
01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:47,599
Speaker 2: So that's you know, quarterback about thirteen to twenty four

1895
01:27:47,880 --> 01:27:49,599
Speaker 2: in ADP thirteen to twenty two.

1896
01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:51,080
Speaker 1: Whatever you want to want to want to do.

1897
01:27:51,640 --> 01:27:54,479
Speaker 2: And then part two is just your your two QB

1898
01:27:54,600 --> 01:27:58,639
Speaker 2: League best ball deep sleepers, like like like those guys

1899
01:27:58,640 --> 01:28:01,120
Speaker 2: that are really going late, you know, outside the top

1900
01:28:01,160 --> 01:28:04,400
Speaker 2: twenty Definitely most of them outside the top twenty four.

1901
01:28:04,479 --> 01:28:05,479
Speaker 1: So yeah, so your late.

1902
01:28:05,439 --> 01:28:08,760
Speaker 2: Round quarterback guys and then your deep sleepers. Jeff, I'll

1903
01:28:08,760 --> 01:28:09,240
Speaker 2: start with you.

1904
01:28:09,760 --> 01:28:12,040
Speaker 1: I think the top guy I'm targeting is a guy

1905
01:28:12,080 --> 01:28:15,600
Speaker 1: we talked about sort of glowingly earlier, rookie quarterback for

1906
01:28:15,640 --> 01:28:18,840
Speaker 1: the San Francisco forty nine ers, Trey Lance. If I'm

1907
01:28:18,880 --> 01:28:23,439
Speaker 1: going after him, though, and there is uncertainty in terms

1908
01:28:23,439 --> 01:28:25,160
Speaker 1: of when he's going to start, then I do have

1909
01:28:25,320 --> 01:28:27,760
Speaker 1: to grab one of these, whether it's Baker Mayfield, whether

1910
01:28:27,800 --> 01:28:29,680
Speaker 1: it's Kirk Cousins, or whether it's Matt Ryan, one of

1911
01:28:29,680 --> 01:28:32,400
Speaker 1: those safer guys. I don't want to take another volatile

1912
01:28:32,479 --> 01:28:35,040
Speaker 1: guy because you could set yourself up for a rough

1913
01:28:35,040 --> 01:28:37,599
Speaker 1: start to the season. And remember, you know, we often

1914
01:28:37,640 --> 01:28:41,240
Speaker 1: think of fantasy football as well, usually a sixteen week

1915
01:28:41,280 --> 01:28:44,679
Speaker 1: thing now a seventeen week thing, but it isn't. It's

1916
01:28:45,320 --> 01:28:47,919
Speaker 1: last year a thirteen week thing and now a fourteen

1917
01:28:47,960 --> 01:28:50,120
Speaker 1: week thing, and we're lucky enough to maybe get into

1918
01:28:50,120 --> 01:28:52,679
Speaker 1: the playoffs. So if you go like oh and four

1919
01:28:52,680 --> 01:28:54,720
Speaker 1: in your first month, you're putting yourself in a hole.

1920
01:28:54,760 --> 01:28:56,360
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you can't dig out of it, but

1921
01:28:56,760 --> 01:28:58,400
Speaker 1: you really put yourself in a big hole. So you

1922
01:28:58,439 --> 01:29:00,760
Speaker 1: have to at least cover that those base is. In

1923
01:29:00,840 --> 01:29:02,400
Speaker 1: terms of the deep names, I mean some of the

1924
01:29:02,400 --> 01:29:05,240
Speaker 1: guys that we did talk about. Obviously we talked about

1925
01:29:05,560 --> 01:29:08,720
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson, one of the New Orleans guys. And I

1926
01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:11,160
Speaker 1: want to throw another name out there who you probably

1927
01:29:11,160 --> 01:29:14,519
Speaker 1: could get for absolute free who looks like he could

1928
01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:16,960
Speaker 1: be a starting quarterback for a good chunk of the season,

1929
01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:20,800
Speaker 1: Tarrod Taylor. If you're in a two quarterback league, I

1930
01:29:20,840 --> 01:29:23,240
Speaker 1: do not think Deshaun Watson is going to be under

1931
01:29:23,240 --> 01:29:26,160
Speaker 1: center at all for the Houston Texans regardless. The one

1932
01:29:26,280 --> 01:29:30,400
Speaker 1: drawback to Tarad Taylor from a game standpoint is the

1933
01:29:30,439 --> 01:29:32,920
Speaker 1: team looks like they are going to be pretty rough

1934
01:29:32,960 --> 01:29:35,679
Speaker 1: this year. Right They really don't have much that stands

1935
01:29:35,720 --> 01:29:39,880
Speaker 1: out really almost at any level. Their backfield, combined, like

1936
01:29:39,880 --> 01:29:43,719
Speaker 1: people are like, you know, okay, well David Johnson's older

1937
01:29:43,920 --> 01:29:47,919
Speaker 1: and Mark Ingers old, but Philip Bizzy No, phil Bizzey's

1938
01:29:47,920 --> 01:29:50,720
Speaker 1: twenty seven, Like he's already old too for running back.

1939
01:29:50,800 --> 01:29:55,000
Speaker 1: They are really old at that position. So they could

1940
01:29:55,160 --> 01:29:57,439
Speaker 1: ultimately go to Davis Mills at some point. So that's

1941
01:29:57,439 --> 01:30:01,040
Speaker 1: the one drawback there. But Toarrod Taylor with his ability

1942
01:30:01,080 --> 01:30:04,639
Speaker 1: to run, he's a quarterback too, you know, as a starter.

1943
01:30:05,240 --> 01:30:08,680
Speaker 1: He's a quarterback too, top twenty four guy. Just we

1944
01:30:08,760 --> 01:30:11,720
Speaker 1: don't know exactly if he's going to start as of now,

1945
01:30:11,760 --> 01:30:13,679
Speaker 1: but I do think you will and then for how long.

1946
01:30:14,040 --> 01:30:16,000
Speaker 1: But you get him for absolutely nothing. So if you're

1947
01:30:16,040 --> 01:30:17,960
Speaker 1: really stuck in a two quarterback league you didn't get

1948
01:30:17,960 --> 01:30:20,640
Speaker 1: that second quarterback, I would or a third quarterback that is,

1949
01:30:20,640 --> 01:30:24,200
Speaker 1: I would definitely look up to Rod Taylor. What about you?

1950
01:30:25,120 --> 01:30:28,559
Speaker 4: So my favorite late round QB targets in one QB

1951
01:30:28,680 --> 01:30:32,400
Speaker 4: leagues are the two rookies Justin Fields and Trey Lance.

1952
01:30:32,439 --> 01:30:35,840
Speaker 4: I think those guys you really want to stash, you know,

1953
01:30:35,960 --> 01:30:39,519
Speaker 4: QB one upside guys. Those are the guys and you

1954
01:30:39,560 --> 01:30:41,880
Speaker 4: know you're gonna be streaming QB to start the year

1955
01:30:41,960 --> 01:30:44,960
Speaker 4: that's totally fine. The easy and they might not start

1956
01:30:45,040 --> 01:30:47,280
Speaker 4: for a few weeks, but that's the easiest time of

1957
01:30:47,320 --> 01:30:49,680
Speaker 4: the year to kind of like stash guys in your

1958
01:30:49,680 --> 01:30:51,799
Speaker 4: bench because you know, we don't have bye weeks, injuries

1959
01:30:51,800 --> 01:30:54,160
Speaker 4: really haven't hit by then, so it's very easy to

1960
01:30:54,160 --> 01:30:56,040
Speaker 4: stash guys like that, and then you have a potential

1961
01:30:56,120 --> 01:30:58,719
Speaker 4: QB one the rest of the season once they do start.

1962
01:30:59,240 --> 01:31:02,320
Speaker 4: And for two Q leagues or Best Ball formats, I

1963
01:31:02,400 --> 01:31:04,920
Speaker 4: really love the other rookie, Zach Wilson, who goes way

1964
01:31:04,920 --> 01:31:07,000
Speaker 4: too late. You know he's going to start Week one,

1965
01:31:07,080 --> 01:31:10,040
Speaker 4: He's probably gonna start all seventeen games. He has that

1966
01:31:10,240 --> 01:31:13,040
Speaker 4: low end QB one upside, so I love getting him

1967
01:31:13,080 --> 01:31:16,439
Speaker 4: late and for Best Ball leagues, Taysom Hill as your

1968
01:31:16,520 --> 01:31:20,400
Speaker 4: third quarterback. Typically I only draft two quarterbacks, but I

1969
01:31:20,439 --> 01:31:23,360
Speaker 4: love to sneak him in as my third QB. He offers,

1970
01:31:23,439 --> 01:31:25,479
Speaker 4: you know, QB one upside when he does start, and

1971
01:31:25,520 --> 01:31:27,559
Speaker 4: I think he will make some starts this year, So

1972
01:31:27,640 --> 01:31:30,120
Speaker 4: I love getting you some Taysom Hill late late in drafts.

1973
01:31:30,360 --> 01:31:32,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is obviously the hardest part of going last,

1974
01:31:32,840 --> 01:31:35,679
Speaker 2: because you guys essentially stole all my guys but I'll

1975
01:31:35,720 --> 01:31:39,080
Speaker 2: just say this way for late round quarterbacks, anyone who

1976
01:31:39,080 --> 01:31:43,400
Speaker 2: can run. So that's Lance, that's Fields, that's and then

1977
01:31:43,880 --> 01:31:45,880
Speaker 2: the one guy I'll throw in there because again I

1978
01:31:45,880 --> 01:31:48,120
Speaker 2: think what I do look at schedule a little bit.

1979
01:31:48,479 --> 01:31:50,760
Speaker 2: I like Kirk the way Kirk Cousins starts the year

1980
01:31:51,040 --> 01:31:56,200
Speaker 2: with Minnesota at Cincinnati at Arizona, Seattle, Cleveland, Detroit at

1981
01:31:56,240 --> 01:32:01,120
Speaker 2: Carolina by Dallas. Like that's like seven six or seven

1982
01:32:01,200 --> 01:32:04,800
Speaker 2: startable QB one weeks to start off the year. So

1983
01:32:04,840 --> 01:32:07,160
Speaker 2: I really like him as a weight round target as

1984
01:32:07,200 --> 01:32:10,840
Speaker 2: well as a year opening streamer target. And then for

1985
01:32:10,840 --> 01:32:14,000
Speaker 2: for deep sleepers, I love Zach Wilson. I would almost

1986
01:32:14,040 --> 01:32:17,320
Speaker 2: put him in the weight round category because he's gonna

1987
01:32:17,320 --> 01:32:19,160
Speaker 2: start every game, so I think you could draft him

1988
01:32:19,160 --> 01:32:20,840
Speaker 2: in a redraft. I think he has a good week

1989
01:32:20,880 --> 01:32:25,160
Speaker 2: one as well, and then I'm tas him over over

1990
01:32:25,360 --> 01:32:28,360
Speaker 2: over Jamis and one other name I'll throw out there,

1991
01:32:28,560 --> 01:32:31,800
Speaker 2: the ugliest, most unsexy pick of all time. But if

1992
01:32:31,840 --> 01:32:34,040
Speaker 2: you're drafting a guy that you don't know will make

1993
01:32:34,080 --> 01:32:36,120
Speaker 2: all the starts in a best ball and so you

1994
01:32:36,160 --> 01:32:38,599
Speaker 2: want to draft a third guy who will make all

1995
01:32:38,640 --> 01:32:41,280
Speaker 2: the starts for a really bad team that will be

1996
01:32:41,320 --> 01:32:44,720
Speaker 2: throwing the ball because they have to. Jared Goff is

1997
01:32:44,760 --> 01:32:47,280
Speaker 2: still there. He's still there. He's free. So you know,

1998
01:32:47,920 --> 01:32:51,160
Speaker 2: you'll you'll get you'll get some value there. It's disgusting,

1999
01:32:51,400 --> 01:32:53,920
Speaker 2: but I'll just put that out there. But this has

2000
01:32:53,960 --> 01:32:56,519
Speaker 2: been the Action Network Fantasy Flex podcast.

2001
01:32:56,640 --> 01:32:57,519
Speaker 1: Jeff Radquiff.

2002
01:32:57,600 --> 01:33:00,280
Speaker 3: What a great guest, Jeff, thanks for doing his other

2003
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Speaker 3: people what's your rep?

2004
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2005
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2006
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2007
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2008
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2009
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2010
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2011
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2012
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2013
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2014
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2015
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2016
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2017
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2018
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2019
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Speaker 3: There you have it, man, go check out Jeff.

2020
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2021
01:33:53,479 --> 01:33:57,040
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2022
01:33:57,720 --> 01:34:00,160
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2023
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2024
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2025
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2026
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2027
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