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Speaker 1: by Vanduel here at the volume. Happy Tuesday, everybody. Hope
Speaker 1: all of you guys are having a good start to
Speaker 1: your week. Nice and quick show. Today, we're just gonna
Speaker 1: hit on two games. The Pacers going into Golden State
Speaker 1: down a bunch of guys and kind of man handling
Speaker 1: the Golden State Warriors. That was really interesting game. Andrew Nemhardt,
Speaker 1: the same guy who executed the Los Angeles Lakers a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, had the game of his life
Speaker 1: and we're gonna dive into that a little bit um
Speaker 1: and then the Los Angeles Clippers went into Charlotte and
Speaker 1: beat the Hornets last night on the strength of a
Speaker 1: game winner from Kawai Leonard and not a huge statistical
Speaker 1: performance from Kauai, but he more or less looked like
Speaker 1: Kauai with a couple of possessions at the end of
Speaker 1: the game, which I thought was really incur jinks. So
Speaker 1: we're gonna do a little check in on the Los
Speaker 1: Angeles Clippers in the second half of the show. Also,
Speaker 1: we did release a video. It's the Anthony Davis Lakers
Speaker 1: segment from yesterday. But we're experimenting with using some footage
Speaker 1: and there were a lot of specific concepts that I
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Speaker 1: get your podcasts under Hoops tonight. So in this game,
Speaker 1: the Pacers jumped out to a huge lead early. Uh,
Speaker 1: the Warriors made it a game twice, middle of the
Speaker 1: second quarter, in the middle of the fourth quarter. Uh,
Speaker 1: the Warriors actually led one nine nine with less than
Speaker 1: five minutes left. But then from there Andrew Nampard step
Speaker 1: back three, lob dunke, Isaiah Jackson step back three, floating
Speaker 1: bank shot in the lane. Kind of very Steph Curry
Speaker 1: esque on that floating bank shot, all in pick and roll.
Speaker 1: The Warriors only scored two points during that span and
Speaker 1: the game was over. You know, it's funny because we
Speaker 1: talk a lot about pick and roll on this show.
Speaker 1: It's one of the foundational concepts of NBA basketball these days.
Speaker 1: In terms of shot creation. We talked a lot about
Speaker 1: the different coverages that teams use, but also I'm fascinated personally.
Speaker 1: I'll just I've always been fascinated with skill sets and
Speaker 1: skill development. It's kind of what I do when I
Speaker 1: coach my high school kids. It's been a huge thing,
Speaker 1: and just my love for the game manifests in a
Speaker 1: lot of ways of round skill sets and different dribble
Speaker 1: combinations and shot making and all the different things that
Speaker 1: it takes to be a successful score in any in
Speaker 1: any level of basketball, and specifically when it comes to
Speaker 1: pick and roll. As you guys know, I always talk
Speaker 1: about how you have to have a couple of very
Speaker 1: specific skills. You have to be able to shoot off
Speaker 1: the dribble at all three levels. So if you're coming
Speaker 1: off the screen and the biggest too far back and
Speaker 1: the guard defender gets caught on the screen, you need
Speaker 1: to be able to knock down a pull up. Three.
Speaker 1: If the guard fights over the screen and you can
Speaker 1: use an escape dribble to get away from him, in
Speaker 1: the biggest steel too far back, you need to be
Speaker 1: able to hit a pull up eighteen foot twenty or
Speaker 1: fifteen foot or somewhere along those lines. If the guard
Speaker 1: is actually chasing you over the top of the screen
Speaker 1: and applying back pressure and the biggest too far back.
Speaker 1: You need to be able to hit a floater in
Speaker 1: the lane, or you need to be enough of an
Speaker 1: athlete to attack a rim protector and finish through contact.
Speaker 1: And then if the if the big stays with the
Speaker 1: roll man, you need to be able to finish around
Speaker 1: the rim with either hand on any footwork that you
Speaker 1: might need to use. And then from there you also
Speaker 1: have to be able to make high level passing reads.
Speaker 1: So if you engage the big, you need to be
Speaker 1: able to make a pocket pass or a lot pass
Speaker 1: up towards the rim. If they help out of the
Speaker 1: weak side corner, you need to be able to make
Speaker 1: those slingshot one arm passes across the court to hit
Speaker 1: the shooter, or if there's a shooter relocating to the
Speaker 1: top of the key, or if it's like a pick
Speaker 1: and pop or something along those lines, you've got to
Speaker 1: be able to pass across your body to somebody who's
Speaker 1: behind you. But if you can do all of those things,
Speaker 1: and you can do them at a really high level,
Speaker 1: then you can score and run pick and roll successfully
Speaker 1: in the n b A. And you know there's a
Speaker 1: lot of players like the overall skill level in the
Speaker 1: NBA right now is at a point where there's dozens
Speaker 1: and dozens and dozens of players who can do all
Speaker 1: of those things. Andrew Dampart isn't is an exciting rookie.
Speaker 1: You know, flashed a lot of this stuff when he
Speaker 1: was at Gonzaga. But he's not a guy that you
Speaker 1: think of is like a prototypical lottery level high end creator. Right,
Speaker 1: He's not a guy that you think of as a
Speaker 1: future All Star. But he's a damn good basketball player.
Speaker 1: And if you allow him to get comfortable and allow
Speaker 1: him to get to his spots, he's got all of
Speaker 1: the necessary traits to make you pay for that. You know.
Speaker 1: It's funny, Um, that machine that all those different things
Speaker 1: that I was talking about was in full effect last night.
Speaker 1: This was crazy. I put this video together. You can
Speaker 1: find it on my Twitter feeds. Go at Underscore. Jason
Speaker 1: LT scrolled down to the Andrew Nambart tweet. He ran
Speaker 1: thirty five pick and rolls last night against the Warriors
Speaker 1: and they resulted in fifty two points. That's almost one
Speaker 1: and a half points per possession. He just completely and
Speaker 1: utterly barbecued the Golden State Warriors and pick and roll.
Speaker 1: On the season, he's been pretty solid, a hundred fourteen
Speaker 1: pick and rolls for a hundred seventy seventeen points, which
Speaker 1: is in the seventy percentile, but that was also elevated
Speaker 1: by his performance last night, So a good percentage of
Speaker 1: that is this was a below average pick and roll
Speaker 1: ball handler who had the night of his life at
Speaker 1: the expense of at the expense of a Warrior's defense
Speaker 1: that didn't bring the requisite effort. So I want to
Speaker 1: shout out Andrew and empar but also point out the
Speaker 1: obvious fact that the Warriors weren't good enough. You know,
Speaker 1: in general, he was too comfortable getting to his jump shot.
Speaker 1: That means the guards weren't doing their job fighting over
Speaker 1: the top of screens. They were a handful of times
Speaker 1: that he got switches onto Kevan Luny. Cavan Luney was
Speaker 1: given him too much space, allowing him to step into
Speaker 1: shots too comfortably. The Warriors are an overhelped team and
Speaker 1: they got punished for over helping a lot during this
Speaker 1: game off of shooters. You know, you could see it
Speaker 1: from the open just I'm sure all you Warriors fans
Speaker 1: noticed watching that game. There was a weird energy just
Speaker 1: kind of surrounding the whole team as the Pacers would
Speaker 1: go down and score, and then the Warriors would go
Speaker 1: down to miss a shot, and the Pacers would go
Speaker 1: down to score, and the Warriors would go down to
Speaker 1: miss a shot. Next thing, you know, it's like four
Speaker 1: and you have no momentum, and everything just kind of
Speaker 1: feels clunky. And some of this is just the reality
Speaker 1: of the NBA schedule. You know, sometimes you've got to
Speaker 1: play a game against the lower level NBA set of talent.
Speaker 1: On a Monday night in December, Pacers were on a
Speaker 1: back to back. They were on a road trip where
Speaker 1: I believe they had lost all four games or they
Speaker 1: had only won one out of the five games, and
Speaker 1: that was against the Lakers. On that game winner, Tyrese
Speaker 1: Haliburton was out, Miles Turner was out. They're starting some
Speaker 1: cast offs, right, Like Aaron E. Smith is a lottery
Speaker 1: pick from Boston that is in his second stint already
Speaker 1: with the Pacers. Same thing for Jalen Smith, a guy
Speaker 1: that was a lottery pick for Phoenix that they got
Speaker 1: rid of. So it's kind of like a weird vibe
Speaker 1: right where it's like, yeah, you're looking across the way,
Speaker 1: and it's a lot of lower level NBA players. But
Speaker 1: the truth of the matter is is those low level
Speaker 1: NBA players are highly motivated. This is Ben Mathurin's first
Speaker 1: NBA start. You don't think he wants to bring a
Speaker 1: level effort again. Andrew Nambard is a rookie who's getting
Speaker 1: his for the first time, really getting the keys to
Speaker 1: an NBA offense to do whatever the hell he wants.
Speaker 1: He's excited about that opportunity to show what he can do.
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith again, former lottery pick, Aaron E. Smith, former
Speaker 1: lottery pick. You don't think those guys realize that if
Speaker 1: they don't play really well and these types of situations,
Speaker 1: that they might not get another contract in the league.
Speaker 1: Like that's the kind of motivation they're facing. Meanwhile, the
Speaker 1: Warriors are at home, they feel invincible. They're not going
Speaker 1: to be very motivated, and so it and you combine
Speaker 1: that with some other factors, like Steph just had a
Speaker 1: god awful shooting night and it wasn't you know, there
Speaker 1: was some tough shot selection in there, but there was
Speaker 1: like some airballs there was. His first shot of the
Speaker 1: game was a wide open twenty footer that Steph almost
Speaker 1: never misses that he missed. Jordan Pool had another game
Speaker 1: where his decision making was just all over the place,
Speaker 1: and Andrew Wiggins is it there. So suddenly you're super
Speaker 1: thin on the wing and you're relying heavily on young
Speaker 1: players and you end up losing a game that you
Speaker 1: shouldn't lose, you know. And here's the thing, Like lots
Speaker 1: of Warriors fans are gonna point to the bench, and
Speaker 1: I saw lots of people calling for trades again last night.
Speaker 1: And again I'm not saying that those things aren't issues,
Speaker 1: and they are and they need to be addressed. But
Speaker 1: the reality is is that your starters got your ass
Speaker 1: kicked again and you were in the lead with less
Speaker 1: than five minutes left, and you couldn't get a stop
Speaker 1: to a backup ball handler with a backup role man
Speaker 1: on an inferior basketball team. You fail for the trap
Speaker 1: game that happens. That these are trap games are in
Speaker 1: the NBA schedule, That happens to everybody. It's just in
Speaker 1: the grand scheme of things. It's a lot harder to
Speaker 1: kind of like cope with that when your record isn't
Speaker 1: as good as it should be because this has happened
Speaker 1: a little bit too often, but at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, you just got to move on and play better.
Speaker 1: I mean that Warrior's lineup, like I said, is the
Speaker 1: best lineup in basketball this year. They need to be
Speaker 1: held to the standard that they should be able to
Speaker 1: get stops on Andrew Nemhard and and and win a
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Speaker 1: moving on to the Clippers and the Hornets So Quiet,
Speaker 1: Paul George had a cool sequence in this game. Um
Speaker 1: Terry Rozier had a really nice pull up jump shot
Speaker 1: on the right baseline to put the Hornets up one
Speaker 1: seventeen one fift. Hornets are a weird team. They can't score,
Speaker 1: but they have tons of length and athleticism like Kelly U.
Speaker 1: Brady leads the league and deflections. They've got all this athleticism.
Speaker 1: They're kind of like scrappy. They're not what you would
Speaker 1: expect from the old school Hornets, which were a lot
Speaker 1: more offensive skilled and couldn't get stops and had a
Speaker 1: lot of guys that you you know, had injury issues.
Speaker 1: This is like a young, freaky athletic, kind of fun
Speaker 1: to watch team. And they had a two point lead
Speaker 1: with under a minute left and Marcus Morris ended up
Speaker 1: getting a wide open three on the right wing that
Speaker 1: he missed, and Paul George just massive winning type of
Speaker 1: play where the there's kind of like a contested rebound,
Speaker 1: he just jumps up and taps it to Kawhi lan
Speaker 1: Or directly under the basket, easy lay up to tie it.
Speaker 1: And by the way, that's that's a the second time
Speaker 1: that Paul George has made kind of like a hustle
Speaker 1: play that helped his team win a game this year.
Speaker 1: I can't remember specifically which team it was. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I was against the Calves when Jared Allen tried to
Speaker 1: make that lay up on that drop off pass and
Speaker 1: Paul George just made that one extra effort that ended
Speaker 1: up forcing a stop which led to a run out
Speaker 1: in a Clippers basket. Like Paul George, you know, rightfully
Speaker 1: got criticized a lot for some of his lack of
Speaker 1: success in Oklahoma City. Towards the end with Indiana, he's
Speaker 1: turned into a damn good, like just kind of gritty,
Speaker 1: scrappy winning player in this league. It just can't stay
Speaker 1: healthy long enough for it to matter. But then Kawhi
Speaker 1: leonards one seventeen, one seventeen, they go down, uh the
Speaker 1: Hornets end of uh generating a wide open three. I
Speaker 1: believe it was either for PJ. Washington or Jalen McDaniels,
Speaker 1: but they missed a wide open three. Clippers don't call
Speaker 1: a time out. They go down the floor. Kauai ISOs
Speaker 1: on the right, uh block a right kind of like
Speaker 1: extended short corner block area, and uh Kauai just goes
Speaker 1: through kind of like a really nifty kind of like
Speaker 1: jab step high gather um. Uh. That kind of gets
Speaker 1: Jalen McDaniels to buckle a little bit, and then he
Speaker 1: just hits like a jab step and gets enough separation
Speaker 1: and knocks down an eighteen foot or game over. It's
Speaker 1: a season high sixteen points on fifteen shots for Kauai.
Speaker 1: Still clearly a little bit out of rhythm, not quite
Speaker 1: the efficiency you expect from him. He had like a
Speaker 1: step back three on the right wing a little bit
Speaker 1: earlier in the fourth quarter that was like two ft
Speaker 1: too long and a foot too far to the left.
Speaker 1: It's just a brick. Damn ever put a hole in
Speaker 1: the backboard. That's like one of those moves that Kawhi
Speaker 1: Leonard like when he's really got it going, that's either
Speaker 1: are going in the basket or he's just barely missing
Speaker 1: it short long, you know, something like that. Um But
Speaker 1: overall that's rhythm related. I think his legs actually looked
Speaker 1: as good last night as they've looked all season. There
Speaker 1: was a specific play I clipped this play. You can
Speaker 1: find it on my Twitter feed. It's I just say,
Speaker 1: it's the one that just has the caption that says,
Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard looking like Kawhi Leonard, and he's is suing
Speaker 1: on Jala McDaniels out of the left corner, and he
Speaker 1: does a hard jab step dribble towards the baseline, gets
Speaker 1: cut off, crosses back over with the retreat dribble, and
Speaker 1: then takes three dribbles into the lane and elevates over
Speaker 1: the top and gets tons of separation and knocks down
Speaker 1: like a fifteen foot jumper right around the foul line,
Speaker 1: and I was like, Wow, that looks like Kawhi Leonard.
Speaker 1: And it's one of those things where it's gonna take time.
Speaker 1: You know, he's gonna have to get to the point
Speaker 1: where he's got his conditioning and rhythm where it can
Speaker 1: be where he can consistently play eight minutes a night
Speaker 1: at a high level for the Clippers to really crawl
Speaker 1: into that more serious conversation at the top of the West.
Speaker 1: But it's baby steps here, especially with all of his
Speaker 1: injury history, and I thought last night was a good
Speaker 1: baby step in the right direction in terms of the
Speaker 1: way his athleticism looked. Game winner ends a two game
Speaker 1: skid for the Clippers. Their fourteen and eleven they're the
Speaker 1: sixth seed in the West right now. There's still twenty
Speaker 1: eight in offense, but their fifth in defense. Let's just
Speaker 1: put it this way in terms of their injury luck,
Speaker 1: the Clippers have played twenty five games and Paul George
Speaker 1: and Kwai Leonard have combined to play in twenty three
Speaker 1: of them, so they're two best players have combined to
Speaker 1: play in less than the total number of games that
Speaker 1: the team has played this year. They're also having a
Speaker 1: really tough shooting season. So last year they were one
Speaker 1: of the best jump shooting teams in the league. They
Speaker 1: were third and three point percentage twelve and three point
Speaker 1: makes per one possessions. This year there seventeenth the makes
Speaker 1: and percentage. Outside of Luke Canard, who continues to just
Speaker 1: shoot the laces off the basketball sware every time he
Speaker 1: gets a good look, it's going in. Outside of Luke
Speaker 1: Nard and Brandon Boston, who really isn't in their rotation,
Speaker 1: every single Clippers player is shooting below from three, and
Speaker 1: this is a good shooting team from his from like
Speaker 1: a talent standpoint, So even despite all the injuries, their
Speaker 1: offense should probably be a little bit better than even
Speaker 1: than it has been there probably due for some positive regression,
Speaker 1: and shooting really is going to be the big thing
Speaker 1: that helps them. I don't think it's a coincidence that
Speaker 1: Luke and Ard has been their best plus minus guy
Speaker 1: when he's shooting the laces off the damn basketball and
Speaker 1: the team is struggling so much to score. You know.
Speaker 1: The thing is is that with Paul George and Kawhile
Speaker 1: Leonard being out, a great deal of the ball handling
Speaker 1: responsibilities have fallen on Reggie Jackson and John Well, and
Speaker 1: both of them just haven't been very good. Reggie's below
Speaker 1: average and pick and roll this year zero point nine
Speaker 1: six point per possession uh including passes and an iceo
Speaker 1: zero point nine two points per possession, just not quite
Speaker 1: the player that he was a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1: And then John Wall, it's like, you know, he has
Speaker 1: these moments where like you'll hit the jets in transition
Speaker 1: and get all the way to the rim for a layup,
Speaker 1: or he'll draw a foul, or he'll collapse the defense
Speaker 1: and make a really nice pass to a shooter, and
Speaker 1: you're like, oh man, that looks kind of like John Wall.
Speaker 1: But the totals in terms of the shot result or
Speaker 1: team result per action that he runs are not good.
Speaker 1: Zero point nine five points possession and pick and roll
Speaker 1: which is below average, and zero point seven six points
Speaker 1: per possession and ISO i'm pretty decent volume, which is horrible.
Speaker 1: So really, I mean, all of it comes back to
Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard and Paul George. I do believe they'll start
Speaker 1: shooting better. I'm a huge believer in their set of
Speaker 1: role players, but you need that top end talent. I'd
Speaker 1: I would use the Lakers as an example. For instance,
Speaker 1: the Clippers have much more talent on the roster than
Speaker 1: the Los Angeles or than the Lakers. They've got wings
Speaker 1: that can shoot and dribble. They've got these guards that
Speaker 1: can get consistent dribble penetration. But at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, their overall shot quality isn't good enough because
Speaker 1: they're not consistently getting in the getting the defense and rotation,
Speaker 1: because they don't have the super duper stars and their
Speaker 1: ability to truly warp the defense and create high quality
Speaker 1: shots for everybody else. Look at how Lebron and a
Speaker 1: d like hit a groove and added that shot making piece,
Speaker 1: that like ability to hit shots over the top of
Speaker 1: the defense. Because that's the thing with the Clippers too.
Speaker 1: It's not just about getting that initial advantage to get
Speaker 1: guys good spot up opportunities. You need Paul George and
Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard to hit a three dribble pull up at
Speaker 1: the free throw line in the fourth quarter. You need
Speaker 1: Paul George hitting that classic fade away along the baseline,
Speaker 1: like you need shot making to help rescue possessions. Like again,
Speaker 1: if you look at offensive ratings, you know the best
Speaker 1: team in the league might be eighteen points possession, but
Speaker 1: the worst team in the league is not that far behind.
Speaker 1: You know, they're still scoring a hundred you know, seven
Speaker 1: points per possession or points per hunter possession or whatever
Speaker 1: it is. So it's like, really that the difference between
Speaker 1: those two outcomes might be shot making and just having
Speaker 1: four or five possessions a game where dude just rises
Speaker 1: up over good defense and knocks down a shot. And
Speaker 1: so when you're two stars Kawai and Paul George are
Speaker 1: missing more than half of their potential games, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be really hard for you to hang with teams offensively.
Speaker 1: But this is a credit to Taylu into the organization
Speaker 1: as a whole in terms of their competence, because in
Speaker 1: spite of all of that, you're sitting at fourteen and eleven,
Speaker 1: your solidly, solidly in the playoff. Hunt the West is
Speaker 1: such a ship show that you can easily recover. That's
Speaker 1: what it takes. Competent management that provides your roster with
Speaker 1: quality players that fit a modern scheme, a coach that
Speaker 1: actually recommends and promotes that modern scheme, you know, and
Speaker 1: Tyler too, like he's big on switching he's big on
Speaker 1: that spread spread pick and roll spread is so. But
Speaker 1: I've also been really impressed with a lot of the
Speaker 1: sets that they've been running lately, which they've had to
Speaker 1: lean on a lot more because they haven't had the
Speaker 1: top end talent. They run this like variation of Spain
Speaker 1: pick and roll, where instead of the big man rolling
Speaker 1: to the basket, he'll just roll into a screen for
Speaker 1: like Luke Kennard or some other shooter coming out of
Speaker 1: the right wing, and they end up getting a ton
Speaker 1: of good looks out of that because typically that screen
Speaker 1: defender is staying back and so essentially Luke Nard is
Speaker 1: getting a flare screen with no help or no hedge
Speaker 1: or anything. He's getting a lot of good looks out
Speaker 1: of that. Tyler is just manufactured wins with this screwup,
Speaker 1: despite being down a ton of players. But the optimistic
Speaker 1: look is again sixth place in the standings, three games
Speaker 1: over five hundred. Kawhi last night looked better physically than
Speaker 1: he had all season. Paul George first game back looked
Speaker 1: pretty good. The reinforcements are coming, and your shot results
Speaker 1: should get better. Guys should shoot better than they have
Speaker 1: been so far this season. That's the advantage of being
Speaker 1: competent as an organization from the top down. For the Lakers,
Speaker 1: they're superstars played like super duperstars to crawl back to
Speaker 1: ten and eleven because of organizational incompetency. The Clippers not
Speaker 1: even really getting that from their stars, hoping to get
Speaker 1: it in the future. Fourteen and eleven deep roster filled
Speaker 1: with modern basketball players and excellent coach, excellent management. Al Right, guys,
Speaker 1: that is all I have for today. As always, I
Speaker 1: sincerely appreciate your support. Don't forget to check out that
Speaker 1: Anthony David's video. We also have one coming out with
Speaker 1: some footage on Zai and Williamson and the Pelicans, so
Speaker 1: he and eye on that as well. As always, I
Speaker 1: sincerely appreciate you guys support and I will see you tomorrow.
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