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Speaker 1: Hi everybody, and welcome to the Renee Stubs Tennis podcast.

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Speaker 1: I am Renee Stubs and we are not together. Caitlyn

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Speaker 1: is in New York and I am in Kahn. I

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Speaker 1: am in Khan for can Lyon. I'm doing a bunch

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Speaker 1: of stuff over here for my couple of different companies.

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Speaker 1: And I am hot, Caitlin, and I don't mean yes,

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Speaker 1: I'm hot, I mean it is hot over here, dude.

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Speaker 1: So we are fully set in the summer of our

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Speaker 1: lives and also tennis because the French Open is over.

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Speaker 1: We're on the grass now. We're all excited, but we

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Speaker 1: are really going to talk a little bit about We're

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Speaker 1: going to fast forward because I've been texted and tweeted

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Speaker 1: at and black mixed doubles. There's excitement, there's WTF is

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Speaker 1: going on? Your first initial thoughts Kaitlin on the partners

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Speaker 1: spakes that are happening. It's crazy.

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Speaker 2: This player's list, this lineup goes unbelievably hard. It goes

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Speaker 2: hard and it doesn't quit. Okay, let me just read

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Speaker 2: you some of the highlights and then we'll get into it.

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Speaker 2: The pairings are unhinged, unhinged, Okay, Chinwin Jung Jack Draper,

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Speaker 2: Yannick Sinner, Emma Navarro. We got two Italians Yasmin Paulini,

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Speaker 2: Lorenzo Mussetti, Americans Tommy Paul Jpeg, Jessica Pegula, Rushians together,

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Speaker 2: Mir and.

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Speaker 3: Reva, Danielle Medvedev.

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Speaker 2: Then it gets funky, ready for this Taylor Fritz, Elena Rebakna,

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Speaker 2: Sure why not, Arina Sblanka, Grigor Dimitrov, two Serbs, Olga Danilovich,

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Speaker 3: Young big ball striker, and Novak Djokovic.

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Speaker 2: That'll be fun all American Francis Tiafo, Madison Keys. That

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Speaker 2: one got a lot of shine. A lot of people

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Speaker 2: are very excited about that. Igish Fiantek Caspar Rude boyfriend

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Speaker 2: girlfriend Tzipas Bodosa. No surprise there the one that everyone

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Speaker 2: seems to be the most excited about, even though it's

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Speaker 2: not my top pick, even though they are very cute

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Speaker 2: and awesome. Am Aratakanu Carlos Alcoraz. This sort of like

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Speaker 2: mirrors the stan narrative that's going on the Internet, where

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Speaker 2: people are convinced that Carlos Alvarez has a crush on

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Speaker 3: Maybe that's true, maybe it's not.

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Speaker 2: I'm skipping over my favorite pair to highlight name Osaka

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Speaker 2: and Nick Kirios, which we can get into. There is

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Speaker 2: the reigning champions, uh Sarah Irani and Vasivori from Finland.

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Speaker 2: I think I'm leaving somebody off, but the one I'm

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Speaker 2: going to win the tournament, Ben Shelton and Taylor Townsend.

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Speaker 2: What a murderer's row of lineups. Everybody's doing it?

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Speaker 1: Yes, nuts, Yeah, I think that. I think that Ben

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Speaker 1: Shelton Taylor Townsend stands out just because you know Lefty's big,

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Speaker 1: you know, big serving Ben. But look, who do I

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Speaker 1: think is gonna win and all of that? Maybe those

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Speaker 1: guys I don't just don't think that Irani and Vavasori

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Speaker 1: doubles players as well. Sarah Ronnie Serve will be questionable.

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Speaker 1: But then again, when isn't it When when isn't it?

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Speaker 1: So I don't know. Part of me is so excited

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Speaker 1: it feels a little exhibition y, right, So I can't.

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Speaker 2: Talk about the format because I think that is one

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Speaker 2: of the main critiques of this feeling a little exhibition

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Speaker 2: y right, because it is not a full length match.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it is a first to four I believe games

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Speaker 1: three sets. Is that correct?

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Speaker 3: I understanding it was first of three, but first of four.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, which is basically everyone's serving once, and it feels

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Speaker 1: like a little bit Team Tennessee, which, by the way,

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Speaker 1: Team Tennis was first of five. In the end it

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Speaker 1: were playing five sets of singles, doubles and mixed in

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Speaker 1: World Team Tennis. So it did go quick and it

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Speaker 1: That's shit. It's terrible. I think it should be to six.

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Speaker 1: I think we should play exactly how they played the

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Speaker 1: system before they already went to the bit of the

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Speaker 1: chuck raffle. And anybody's listening to our podcast in the path,

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Speaker 1: you know what the chuck raffle is. It's what Todd

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Speaker 1: I don't like the first of four. I think that

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Speaker 1: there's a history behind the mixed doubles, and there used

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Speaker 1: And it also there's so much money now in tennis,

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Speaker 1: so they don't need to play mixed doubles or doubles

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Speaker 1: fact that they're not playing a regular scoring system. I

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Speaker 1: too taxing on them, I don't agree with that. I

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Speaker 1: It's not like they're all going to be playing the

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Speaker 1: think there should be a little onus on if you're

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Speaker 1: tournament because you know, Okay, before I go on another

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Speaker 1: tangent on you know, singles players versus doubles players, all

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Speaker 3: On I think people are going to watch it.

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Speaker 1: I don't disagree with that, Caitlin.

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Speaker 2: I think, at the end of the day, totally valid

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Speaker 2: and I want to hear your tangent about top ten

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Speaker 2: of the spectrum, mixed doubles is awesome. It's one of

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Speaker 3: It is the only sport in the world where.

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Speaker 2: Men and women compete at the same time on the

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Speaker 2: absolute limit. We saw skiing and other sports attempt to

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Speaker 2: of having dual gender The dual gender tournaments get the

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Speaker 2: done relays. Yeah, but like skiing, swimming is a relay

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Speaker 2: system which is about as good as you can get.

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Speaker 2: This is everybody's playing at the same time, and it's

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Speaker 2: I watch Roger Federer play against Serena Williams. And this

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking back, as was Lou Suer, the outgoing CEO

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Speaker 2: of the USTA, who allegedly came up with this about

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Speaker 2: the Andy Murray Serena Williams pairing at Wimbledon a couple

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Speaker 2: I'm really glad that people care about it and we'll

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Speaker 2: so it's what we call fan week, and we'll see

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Speaker 3: And this is.

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Speaker 2: Something that people will watch, and I think you know,

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Speaker 2: it doesn't It's not terribly more complicated than that for me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, I don't disagree with anything you've just said.

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Speaker 1: I think that you know, watching it is important, it's exciting,

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Speaker 1: it's fun, like mixed doubles is great to watch. Doubles

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Speaker 1: tennis enthusiasts that play play doubles. At a certain age,

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Speaker 1: The list is long, very very long. Anybody can look

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Speaker 1: it up. Who was ranked number one in singles in

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Speaker 1: sometimes at the same time. That will never happen anymore.

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Speaker 1: So that's a shame because the quality of doubles was

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Speaker 1: gonna sound like a slight to players that are playing

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Speaker 1: go for it. Because I played ten years of singles

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Speaker 1: know you know where to stand at the net. You

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Speaker 1: have to be able to bolly you're at the net,

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Speaker 1: and teams at the net that are good at the

431
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Speaker 1: net are always going to win doubles matches. I don't

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Speaker 1: care who you are. And the reason why Paolini and

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Speaker 1: you know Irani do well is because the Rani's great

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Speaker 1: at the net. She's got great hands. She knows when

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Speaker 1: where to hit the volley, how to hit the volley,

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Speaker 1: and where to stand even though her serf is so bad,

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Speaker 1: they just stand back Paolini. Remember we talked about this.

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Speaker 1: Everyone hits the ball then to Paolini and a RUnni

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Speaker 1: runs into that. I'm like, if you're smart, you hit

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Speaker 1: the ball to a Rani and then you keep hitting

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Speaker 1: the ball to a running on the bay and you

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Speaker 1: cannot lose.

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Speaker 2: Then well listen, I really hope you are going to

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Speaker 2: commentate this because it seems like we had a thorough

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Speaker 2: technical maybe live from our footprint in New York.

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Speaker 3: Stay tuned for more details about that.

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Speaker 2: The other cutey p Tuity power ranking couple that I

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Speaker 2: want to call out is Chinwin Jung and Jack Draper.

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Speaker 2: I mean, face Card meets face Card, whoa like that

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Speaker 2: is giving Vogue editorial.

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Speaker 1: That is giving Vogue editorial. I see major. I wonder

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Speaker 1: if they have the same agents, but having very likely

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Speaker 1: that is an interesting pairing. That is an interesting pairing.

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Speaker 2: I just somebody was like, oh, chin Win's a nerd

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Speaker 2: and he's sort of soft boy, and I was like,

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Speaker 2: chin Win would eat him for breakfast. Don't make no mistake,

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Speaker 2: chin Win is going to be the boss of that team.

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Speaker 1: Which what we should do is have a power ranking

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Speaker 1: of who is going to be the captain of every

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Speaker 1: tame good point.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so Madison, Francis, Tiafa.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna go through those because they got in

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Speaker 1: front of me. Navarro Finner, I think that is an

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Speaker 1: equal captaincy Agree, Okay. Neither of them are super outgoing.

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Speaker 3: Or loud, two introverts, very chill, yep.

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Speaker 1: Draper chin Win We've already discussed definitely going to be

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Speaker 1: chin Win, Pagoula, Tommy Paul, very similar personalities. I would

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Speaker 1: say a little bit of this and a little bit

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Speaker 1: of that on the team. I think Jess will be

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Speaker 1: a little bit of guiding light and Tommy will be

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Speaker 1: the fun, you know. And it was kind of like

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Speaker 1: a bit of back and forth and they'll both be

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what they'll be doing. They'll be doing

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Speaker 1: a lot of smiling, a lot of laughing.

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Speaker 3: I think that's actually the team to watch. That's my

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Speaker 3: peck to win it.

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Speaker 1: They're like passively aggressively funny, so they will be perfect together.

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Speaker 2: I think them and Ben Shelton Taylor turns End are

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Speaker 2: my two faves for Okay, anyway, please go on, please

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Speaker 2: keep going.

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Speaker 1: Paulini and Rssetti, I would say Pawelini is going to

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Speaker 1: be the boss of that team. She's like, dude, look

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Speaker 1: I've won a few double titles over the last few years.

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Speaker 1: Let me to be the boss, and you just look

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Speaker 1: pretty and I'm gonna tell you what to do. Revakina

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Speaker 1: Taylor Fritz, I think that's a combined captain c because

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Speaker 1: both as neither of them exactly type Ah Andreva Medvedev.

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Speaker 1: I think that's going to be all about Mira Andreva.

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Speaker 1: She's gonna draw that, She's gonna run that ship. I

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Speaker 1: think Danil is just going to be along for the ride,

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Speaker 1: and you're going to see him smiling a lot on

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Speaker 1: the tennis court because he's not winning a lot of

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Speaker 1: singles matches right now. And this might be his chance

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Speaker 1: to get some confidence back. Madison Keys Tiafo. That is

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Speaker 1: just going to be I think that's a combined Maddie

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Speaker 1: will probably be the one telling Francis to calm down

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Speaker 1: and to concentrate. Dimitrov and Sablenka. There's no question we

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Speaker 1: know the boss team IgA Kaspar. I think that's going

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Speaker 1: to be a combined captain. C Podosa sits the pass.

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Speaker 1: We know the Podoza is definitely going to be wearing

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Speaker 1: the pants in that situation and telling exactly what to

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Speaker 1: do for Stefan, stephan Us, Radikanu and al KaAZ. I

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Speaker 1: don't even know what to say. I think that's just

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Speaker 1: gonna be.

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Speaker 3: You think that's the blind leading the blind.

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Speaker 1: I think that is going to be just the cutest

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Speaker 1: situation to see them look at each other and go,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. What do you think

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Speaker 1: Benchicch and Zverev definitely Benschic she's the mother now, She's

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Speaker 1: gonna definitely tell Zverev what to do. Danelovich and Djokovic.

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Speaker 1: I think Danilovich is going to be the captain of

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Speaker 1: that team because she is like serious attitude and I

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Speaker 1: think it's actually that combination is going to be kind

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Speaker 1: of funny. Actually, I think Novak's gonna just be like,

515
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Speaker 1: I'm playing tennis for fun and this feels great.

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Speaker 2: I'm really excited, just on a note for this to

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Speaker 2: see the Novak of old, who's like goofy and silly

518
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Speaker 2: and like truly having a good time on the court

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Speaker 2: in a way that doesn't really cast any meaning onto

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Speaker 2: his quest.

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Speaker 3: For a slam or his quest for gold. You know

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Speaker 3: all these things.

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Speaker 1: They played the Olympics, they played them. I think he

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Speaker 1: pulled out because he was hurt.

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Speaker 3: I think they did, but he didn't play. He didn't

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Speaker 3: end up playing.

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Speaker 1: He played. He pulled out against the Australian team of

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Speaker 1: Peers and Ash Barty for the bronze medal and because

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Speaker 1: he was hurt. So so they played together the ball

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Speaker 1: and they're really good friends. And Novak's been a like

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Speaker 1: literally a mentor to Danilovich. So that'll be fun to watch.

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Speaker 1: This is like dad playing with his daughter out there.

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Speaker 1: Funny Taylor and Ben Taylor. Taylor's going to be telling

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Speaker 1: Ben and then Irani Barvasori. We already know the answer

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Speaker 1: to that. We saw the final last year at the

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Speaker 1: US Open and Sarahronie was the best player on court,

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Speaker 1: and she was like looking at Baba's story and be like, look,

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Speaker 1: calm down, I got you. Just just follow my lead.

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Speaker 1: Osaka and Curios. I didn't even know if they're going

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Speaker 1: to play. Yeah, let's that's my guess.

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Speaker 2: We can come back to that if they actually show up.

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Speaker 2: There's another team that we're leaving off that. I feel

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Speaker 2: like it's very it's very of adventures. We didn't talk

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Speaker 2: about them in the sort of power rankings beforehand, and

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Speaker 2: you know, I think for me, the benchic dynamic that

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Speaker 2: you describe is the right one.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think no matter.

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Speaker 2: What I am, titilated, people are talking about this, people

549
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Speaker 2: are excited. I think they will have absolute attention. Kudos

550
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 2: Solution the outgoing US Taco for innovating a new product

551
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Speaker 2: that's not something we've said that much about the USTA

552
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Speaker 2: in years past, and totally hats off because I think

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Speaker 2: centering mixed doubles in this way is just super smart

554
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Speaker 2: and it leans into one of the many things that

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Speaker 2: tennis has going for it, which is that there's all

556
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Speaker 2: these different products like wheelchair tennis, Legends, Tennis, Junior tennis,

557
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Speaker 2: men's tennis, women's tennis, mixed tennis, like yes, is the

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Speaker 2: answer to all of it. And I think for me,

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Speaker 2: just the idea that tennis takes all these different forms,

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Speaker 2: and I was getting a little bit of shine. I

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Speaker 2: would love, as you suggest, for this to be a

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Speaker 2: real match with real scores and real formatting. And so

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Speaker 2: maybe the idea here is if this gets a ton

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Speaker 2: of attention, a ton of press as it already has,

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Speaker 2: and a ton of you know, revenue and enthusiasm from

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Speaker 2: the players, then maybe this is something that they continue,

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Speaker 2: because I'd certainly love to see it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, I think this is a you know, this

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Speaker 1: is the start of a sort of I don't know,

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Speaker 1: the wall falling in mixed doubles. I think, yeah, the

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Speaker 1: Grand Slams are going to see what happens to this,

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Speaker 1: and they're going to decide how they're going to do it.

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Speaker 1: I cannot imagine Craig Tyley doing this in this format,

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Speaker 1: but I would imagine. I know, Wimbledon won't change it,

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Speaker 1: and I hope they don't because I just I don't

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Speaker 1: know Wimbledon is. It's different, Caitlin. People go and watch

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Speaker 1: mixed doubles and doubles at Wimbledon. They do. They love tennis,

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Speaker 1: they get it, grounds pass and they just want to

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Speaker 1: go and watch tennis. So I don't see them really

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Speaker 1: doing it. We'll see, and I might be wrong, but

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Speaker 1: we'll see. But it's definitely exciting this came out, and

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Speaker 1: it's a buzz on the Internet and tennis Twitter and

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Speaker 1: all the other socials are like losing their minds over

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Speaker 1: the potential of all of this stuff, and it will

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Speaker 1: be an incredible week. ESPN wallabys to be showing it

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Speaker 1: and loving it. Before we sign off, because this is

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Speaker 1: going to be a quick one today because this was

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Speaker 1: the talk we wanted to talk about. And we're late

589
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Speaker 1: getting our podcasts out this week, but I've been sleeping

590
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Speaker 1: very rarely hear and can but can we just touch

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Speaker 1: on really quickly last week first time we had a

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Speaker 1: women's event at Queen's Love and tut Tiana Maria slicing

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Speaker 1: her forehand to a victory on the grass at Wimbledon,

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Speaker 1: and it just blows my mind that people and coaches

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Speaker 1: cannot get their players to play a certain game to

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Speaker 1: beat this player on grass who cannot literally hit a

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Speaker 1: passing shot, and it just proves to you. If you're

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Speaker 1: going to teach your player how to win in tennis,

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Speaker 1: please teach them how to hit volleys, because she showed

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Speaker 1: you why playing on grass is a whole different animal.

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Speaker 1: If you keep the ball below the net and you

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Speaker 1: are afraid to going to the net, you're going to

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Speaker 1: get literally no pun intended chopped on grass. And that's

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Speaker 1: what happened.

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Speaker 3: I loved it.

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Speaker 2: I watched so many of Tatiana Maria's matches, including the

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Speaker 2: final against Nissimova. The amount of bafflement that her opponents

608
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Speaker 2: seemed to generate with her slice on both sides was

609
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Speaker 2: quite upsetting because it's like, hey, guys, adjust, make do

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Speaker 2: something different, like please, even though this is coming, come

611
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Speaker 2: into the net, it's gonna float. Interestingly, the best match

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Speaker 2: from the tournament and the one that was the closest,

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Speaker 2: was Mukhova Tauchiana Maria. Not surprisingly, both of them hitting

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Speaker 2: one handed backhands because Mukhova, who has a beautiful slice

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Speaker 2: and a beautiful net games, you know, had a left

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Speaker 2: wrist injury, so she was actually both hitting slice on

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Speaker 2: the one handed backhand and hitting over the one handed backhand,

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Speaker 2: so it was like it looked like tennis that I play.

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Speaker 2: I was so thrilled. I was like, everyone is slicing

620
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Speaker 2: and hitting one handers and coming into the net and

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Speaker 2: utilizing the dimensions of the court. It was such classic

622
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Speaker 2: throwback tennis.

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Speaker 3: Made me so happy.

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Speaker 2: And what a fantastic story that touchdown to Maria h

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Speaker 2: Age thirty nine with two kids wins, you know, wins

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Speaker 2: the first women's event at Queen's Club in forever certainly forever,

627
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Speaker 2: how long? Like what a great outcome. But yes, please,

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Speaker 2: what the lesson is here is teach slaves and teach volleys.

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Speaker 1: The lesson here is too better as coaches, Like, seriously,

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Speaker 1: as a coach, how do you not have your player

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Speaker 1: just say listen. I know you're not comfortable than that.

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Speaker 1: But and I love Tatiana and what she did is incredible,

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Speaker 1: but she doesn't have a puzzling shot. Really, she has

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Speaker 1: to love you. And it's like, how do you not

635
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Speaker 1: teach your player to come in on her ball and

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Speaker 1: be patient and hit the volley away. So it's just like,

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Speaker 1: it's just incredible to me. And if you play a

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00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 1: player like that, you have to come and interview, don't.

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00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 1: She's gonna literally make your life a nightmare, and that's

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Speaker 1: what happened. And she beat big hitters because they were

641
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,479
Speaker 1: refused to come in to beat Madison Keith and then

642
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 1: heath him over back to back because their refusal to

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Speaker 1: be comfortable inside the service line is just beyond me.

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Speaker 1: And it's classic. Anyway. I was so happy to see

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Speaker 1: it because I'm like, good for you, kiddo, good for you.

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Speaker 1: That's unbelievable. And and she is the nicest person.

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Speaker 3: She's a lovely person.

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Speaker 1: Her husband, who is the coach, is the nicest guy.

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Speaker 1: It was just really great to see.

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Speaker 2: He loved it, and also shout out to Taylor Fritz

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Speaker 2: who took Shue Coat on grass beating alex.

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Speaker 3: Verev on his again turf of Germany. Again.

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Speaker 1: That what we call Caitlin. When you beat someone like that,

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Speaker 1: they become your pigeon, and he is. Taylor Fritz looks

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Speaker 1: at Verep and says, you are my pigeon. No argument here,

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Speaker 1: no argument here. Happy to see it.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, France, I see, we will be in I will

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Speaker 2: be in Maymi in a few hours doing some puddle

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Speaker 2: events and tennis because sports playing, I say together. And

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Speaker 2: then I'll be in London on Monday with an event

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Speaker 2: to come, so stay tuned.

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Speaker 1: Great all right, Kaylin, I'll see you in London until then.

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Speaker 1: As they say in France, I won't say Adam because

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Speaker 1: I won't see you tomorrow, but i'll see you next week. Wait. Okay, everybody,

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Speaker 1: thanks for joining you today. All right, beat out everyone. Bye,