1 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:10,120 Speaker 1: Hey, it's Dominic de Brago met Tom gonna help you. Hey, 2 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:14,319 Speaker 1: you slimy piece of shit meat ball, Tony scum, This 3 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: is Tony at le Oh. You were supposed to send 4 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 1: me six pounds of duck and you sent me three 5 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: pounds of pork. You're the fucking swine. I'm gonna fuck 6 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 1: you over my saute station, you little bitch. I send 7 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: my fucking best guys over to you every fucking morning 8 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: at five am. Might give you my fucking best ducks, 9 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 1: and I throw in free fall grown fucking Christmas. And 10 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: this is how you treat me. Fuck your mother, fuck 11 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: your sister's ass all the way fucking to Poughkeepsie, you 12 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: little fucking bitch. I will no longer deliver duck eggs 13 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 1: or quai leggs to you. Don't you fucking dare Fatten 14 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: to not deliver me quail eggs right before the busiest 15 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: weekend of the year. I will stick my goddamn me 16 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: sing highly sharp and Japanese knife all the way up. 17 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: You're stupid fucking cool, Oh, you little Italian piece of shit. 18 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: I've been buying duck eggs for you for eighteen years. 19 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: You wouldn't know a goddamn restaurant in this town if 20 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 1: a warrant for me. I introduced you to everybody in 21 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 1: the West Village. I introduced you to everybody in Tribecca. 22 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 1: You owe me a goddamn life, you owe me a 23 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: sister's life, You owe me your firstborn. So how about this, 24 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: you little fucking prick. I will send my guys over 25 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: there right now. They will be there in twenty minutes. 26 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: They will crash every freaking Cardinal Lincoln tunnel, and I 27 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: will give you an extra tea bone. But you know what, 28 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: those extra tea bones are going to be shoved so 29 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 1: far up my ass. You are gonna taste last week's 30 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: at dinner that my wife made me. And you know what, 31 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: it wasn't her fucking best night. It was one of 32 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: her wife's nights. She's a shitty cook. And my ass 33 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: as full of shit, You motherfucking piece of shit. I 34 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: will never never some meat to you again. Goodbye. I 35 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: will pay you double to suck the Rigatoni out of 36 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: your fucking little hole, your goddamn prick, and I will 37 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: put your first time through college. You better send those 38 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: quail leggs over to my walking right now. I'm jacking 39 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 1: off right now. Excuse me? Oh, I just came thinking 40 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: about your goddamn eggs, the little pizza shit. I love you. 41 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: You're gonna be at my wedding. You're my fucking best man. 42 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 1: See you in twenty minutes. Who's that knocking at the door. 43 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: It's all your friends, your filthy horse. Your husband's gone, 44 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: and we've got books and a bottle of wine to kill. 45 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: It's books, it's gossip. I'm shook. It's memoir, It's Martini 46 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: Cleok Club. Read it while it's hot. Clebrity Book Club, 47 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 1: Tell your secrets. We won't talk clebrity books. No boys 48 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 1: are alloud, Celebrity book say it loud and cloud Clebrity 49 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: Book Club. Buzz man. I brought the queer foe. Hey, 50 00:02:55,639 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: best friend, Hey, best freaking friend. How the hell are you? Dude? 51 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: Happy December? My good bitch. How was your thanks Gorvy? 52 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: How was your thanks gorving? Um? My thanks Gorving was 53 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: a pretty chili chill. Hello. I didn't have to drive anywhere, 54 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 1: didn't miss life. Um yeah, just went to my gf's 55 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: mom's house two blocks away. That's very cool. It's really 56 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: cool to be in a long term relationship with no extreme. 57 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 1: Everybody loves a super traditional experience. It was very ultimate. 58 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: Everybody loves Raymond vibes. Um and I watched a King 59 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: of Queens Thanksgiving episode that all took place at the 60 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: grocery store, and yeah, I was laughing my freaking a 61 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: bottle episode, as we think when you shoot at one location. 62 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: Really fun stuff. And the food was good. I know 63 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: your girlfriend's mother is a bit of a chef. Yeah, 64 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: I'm assuming it was. It was nice. We got we 65 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: had oysters, excuse me, left out on her system from 66 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: a cooler she got wait, sorry, left out on herself. 67 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: So she got the neighborhood like put orsers out, like 68 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: get your oysters. Yeah, and you like put in twenty bucks. 69 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: I love that, I know, and it's a whole thing. Um. 70 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: I did because I am a huge basic bitch. I 71 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: did make the Allison Roman stuffing recipe. What kind of 72 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: bread does she use? Okay, so she calls for sour dough, 73 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 1: and so I went shopping in Bensonhurst, the Italian neighborhood 74 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,359 Speaker 1: before and I asked the woman. I went to this 75 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 1: totally old school bakery and I was like, to have 76 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 1: sour dough, and She's like, no, and I was we 77 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 1: got summoline, and we got brick oven, we got for coccia. 78 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 1: She was being sorry, what do you think this is 79 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: some sort of French baker bitch? Fuck off? We got 80 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: summolina and then and then I was like, all right, 81 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: I'll do the brick oven. And then she goes, I've 82 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 1: never had sour dough. What does it taste like? Stop? Yeah, 83 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 1: by the way, I'm on Christopho Columbus Avenue Bakery. Okay, 84 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 1: all right, I mean you are really deep in the 85 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: heart of Italian American sopranos. Yeah, anyway, you're not fuck 86 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 1: with sour do they do not? It's like, oh, it's 87 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 1: fucking sour bread? Why would I want that? Yeah? It 88 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 1: sounds like shit. So I got the bread coven. Yeah, 89 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: all right, Pierre, go suck a dick, Go suck a bagette, bitch. Yeah, 90 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: my bread, it's cooked in a freaking oven. Where's your 91 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: bread cooked? What's funny? So, my we had sour dough 92 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: stuffing because but my father actually baked wademic boots, I know, 93 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: pandemic to the vibes. My dad got into baking sour 94 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: dough and he was like making multiple loaves. This week. 95 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: It was being so just like, well you have the 96 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: right baking soda and used from Wada starter and you know, 97 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't we're talking about But he made 98 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: like absolutely delicious sour dough. Wait, that was just like 99 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: stopping the inside crust in the outside and you have 100 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: to say crust on the outside. Imagine there's no crust. 101 00:05:56,360 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 1: And it was absolutely delicious. I thought this duffin really 102 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: nailed it. I'm so impressed. The rest of the meal 103 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: was was a little I'll say it. It wasn't the 104 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 1: most incredible year for the for the accouterment. Okay, the 105 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 1: turkey was fine. My brother overcooked the Brussels sprouts and 106 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: they were very just like awesome, these are wet. Oh, 107 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:25,679 Speaker 1: it was just like Kato's lacked flavor, soggy Brussels sprouts, 108 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: like not crispy, No, no crispy bits. They were definitely 109 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 1: no crispy bits. I mean, the tea about turkey is 110 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: that it's a bad bird. Whatever you love to like 111 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: beat such a turkey truther and say like everyone's top 112 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: making turkey. Like I think turkey is great because it 113 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: goes well with cranberry sauce, which I addure, I adule 114 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: the tautness no I dot. I love a tart Peano 115 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 1: noir with you know, with notes of cranberry. So it's like, 116 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,679 Speaker 1: you know, I'm very much attracted really because I always 117 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: feel like when I order a Peano noir, you look 118 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: at me and say, oh, we're getting a Pinot noir, Lily, 119 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 1: I do not say that, you see, I'm like mister 120 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 1: will Lammit Ballet pino over here. I have like, oh 121 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: a Lamit Valley, just like team flat, like Pennant, like 122 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: on my limit, like full flag. Okay, I do want 123 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: to all lament letterman jacket. You need that wait merch okay, okay, Well, 124 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: speaking of food, if we should we get to the book, 125 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: I guess we should get to the book. Um we 126 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: are reading. Yeah, he is a rock star without being 127 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: a rock star. He We've each have read this book 128 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: probably three times. This was my third time reading this book, 129 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: and I was so glad to have another crack at it. Um. 130 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: This is one of the most influential books in the 131 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: food industry. It is one of the best books that 132 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: I would I can probably say we both agree that's 133 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: one of the best books we ever read. For the podcast, 134 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: we of course are talking about Anthony bore Jane. Hell, yes, 135 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: the If You May and his book Kitchen Confidential. So 136 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: I was really saying, this book is I think the 137 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: only book we've ever read where the celebrity in question 138 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: was not famous at the time they wrote the book, 139 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: because the book is what made him. Yes, wow, yeah, 140 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: like this is the first time. It's like, this is 141 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: literally what I hold in my beautiful, soft, non like 142 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 1: labored hands. Yeah, your hands scar covered in callouses from 143 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: lobsters and burning myself on so many saute pans. But yeah, 144 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 1: this book is what made famous change their whole food 145 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: industry change, the food industry, changed how we view chefs, 146 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: changed how we view restaurants. His whole thing is being 147 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: like anti celebrity chef. But you could almost say like 148 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: even though he became one, even though he became one. 149 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: It also, this is only groundbreaking to my family. I 150 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 1: would say, it's like one of the only books that 151 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: like me, my sister and dad have like all read. 152 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: Oh no, I saw that on the Wikipedia page for 153 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: Anthony Burjane. It was like Charles Gianna and Liliana Marada 154 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: famously all read this book first time in history. It's 155 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: I mean, it's really ground breaking. I know everyone's kind 156 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: of jaws on the floor. But you know, you know, 157 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: this book came about at a time right before the 158 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: Russian industry definitely shift and became much more celebrity chef 159 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 1: focused than I think, like foodie culture became much more 160 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: mainstream and diners became much more like, you know, discerning 161 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: and like you I have an opinion. You know, it's 162 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: it's also shifted from oh, people who got to fancy 163 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: restaurants it's just like midtown and fancy steak to like, 164 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,439 Speaker 1: I have an opinion and I can like discover a 165 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: restaurant and I know the chef is, and I'd like 166 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: maybe make my own Demi gloss at home. The amount 167 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: of times the phrase Demi gloss, Demi gloss is demigloss, 168 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 1: sue play the gold, the gold the system comes up 169 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: quite a lot. But I think, you know, and obviously, 170 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: like this book was also hugely influential because of all 171 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:13,599 Speaker 1: the secrets that exposed, and so I think, yeah, I 172 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:17,959 Speaker 1: think the biggest thing people remember this book for is 173 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,079 Speaker 1: that it was like it was so controversial because he 174 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 1: basically like there's one specific chapter where he just goes 175 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 1: through and like says all of the horrible scary things 176 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: that people do in restaurants that like are supposed to 177 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: freak out diners, And you're like, you what I would 178 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: say it? Also, here's the name about Anthony Bourdain complicated Feelings. 179 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: I mean obviously he used the goat works us like 180 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: we I think both of us reference parts in this book. 181 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: M I don't know weekly I feel like the part 182 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: that I resonates with me most few things one charlottes Yeah, Allison, 183 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: you know it's like we wouldn't be at Charlotte Pasta 184 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: without yes, and he and he was being like, uh, 185 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 1: you know, an evangelist for Shalott's long before a roman 186 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: Can went to the scene, was like he'd literally listened 187 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: to this book. I like things that everyone needs to 188 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:07,319 Speaker 1: have his Shalotte and he's like most people don't have 189 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,719 Speaker 1: them in their mus on plas. I am, like I've 190 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 1: said from the day one Shalotte Shalotte Shalot sharp knives. 191 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: But it is kind of hard because you're like he 192 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: gave way to like also such annoying culture, which is 193 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:21,719 Speaker 1: like I don't want to blame him for, but it's 194 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: like he gave way to just one the kind of 195 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: the neolib of him and Obama, like having a beer 196 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,079 Speaker 1: in Vietnam. Okay, so this brings up I actually, it's 197 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: really insane. You said that, and the spirit is president. 198 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: So I just google googled. I just searched my own 199 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: tweets for this Bourdain take. And you think you just 200 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 1: crystallize exactly what I was saying in twenty eighteen to 201 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:51,079 Speaker 1: quote myself from twenty eighteen, to quote myself from twenty eighteen, 202 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: and I will say I read this. I think maybe 203 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: before I read Anthony Bourdaine's book and got a new 204 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,959 Speaker 1: fun love for him. The earnestness epidemic that has infected 205 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: our culture, Fat Pod, Save Queer Eye, etc. Can be 206 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 1: directly traced to our worshipful elevation of quote sensitive badass 207 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: daddy figures like Bourdain and Obama with their motorcycle adjacent 208 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: Zegna jacketed non threatening alpha treacle. Ooh okay, that was 209 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 1: a mouthful, kind of a classic knee tweet A lot 210 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,679 Speaker 1: of words, but I feel like this is exactly what 211 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: you're saying, where it's just like there was this like 212 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 1: they are sensitive badass dads and everyone's gonna be like, Yeah, 213 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 1: these guys are so fucking cool and they have friends 214 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: who have motorcycles and they travel the world, and like 215 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 1: it spawned like a very very i would say gross 216 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,959 Speaker 1: kind of just like Earnest and like chatted at like 217 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,439 Speaker 1: beta culture, chaff punk aesthetic. And if I may read 218 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: a quote from kind of toward its towards the end 219 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: of the book, and he's talking about this is when 220 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,439 Speaker 1: he's at le Hall, which is the steakhouse where he 221 00:12:54,559 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: kind of lea Ley All is like a typical brasserie, 222 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:08,199 Speaker 1: Martini's Steak etc. And like he was, you know, a 223 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: chef there. But it's not like people were like, oh 224 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 1: my god, you need to go to Bourdain's restaurant all. 225 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: But you're talking about before this restaurant, before this restaur 226 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: before this book came out. Yes, so he was like 227 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,319 Speaker 1: he had this chef, he had this restaurant that was 228 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: quite popular. It was just like a booming grasserie. But no, 229 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: Bourdain was not a name chef or a named person 230 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: by any meats. And there's this kind of big section 231 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 1: at the end of the book where he's talking about 232 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:32,199 Speaker 1: kind of oh, one day in the life at like 233 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: and he gets to earlier. He says, I've assembled a 234 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 1: pretty good collection of mid seventies New York punk classics 235 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: on tape, Dead Boys, Richard Hell and the Voids, Heartbreakers, 236 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: Were Mounds, Television and so on, and my Mexican grill 237 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: man enjoys it. So also, like the whole thing the 238 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: book is he is just being so like, shout out 239 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: to my fucking badass Ecuadorians and my fucking Bottos Locos. 240 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: All has call to Locos. He absolutely adores the Latins 241 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: work ethic and like doesn't fail. Do you bring it 242 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 1: up every five seconds or say that just like oh 243 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: the fucking pisspoort, like spot up their ass. White boys 244 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 1: like me so fucking pretentious, thinking they know all their 245 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: ship because they went to CIA, which is the culinary 246 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: Institute of America, not the actual scare. I'm like, couldn't 247 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: hold a fucking candle to my Equadorian badass pirates. So 248 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, we're we're I think we're like circly 249 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: what it is like that is so sort of annoying 250 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: about this like straight male culture at the same time, 251 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: And so that was kind of my impression of Bourdain. 252 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: I think before I read this book, and I would 253 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: blamed him for that kind of just like obnoxious like 254 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: post punk like esthetic, just like straight guy esthetic of 255 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: like collecting vinyl, but like being a bit beta, right exactly. 256 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: And that's like and then for all the guys who 257 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: you see now who are also like totted chefs, who 258 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: are like it's kind of the reverse thing of what 259 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: we talk about like female slabs being like I was 260 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: so thin and so like and like awkward. The chef 261 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: thing is like there is no other fucking place for me. 262 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: Like that's a big thing to just be so like, dude, 263 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: my kitchen is where people who have nowhere else to 264 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: fucking go, because we're everyone's a fucking criminal and a 265 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: drifter and a prostitute and a drug dealer or a 266 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: murderer and like this is the only place on earth 267 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: where they're accepted. But the thing when I read the 268 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: book the first time, I was just like, Okay, this 269 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: guy actually is a legitimate like swashbuckler. He has like 270 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: a like benedictor so many drugs and just like worked 271 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: in so many restaurants and like earned his stripes and 272 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: he is a really good writer. And it's like really 273 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: fun and like there is there is a legitimate lust 274 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: for life here that is not the kind of like 275 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: more sanitized Obama like version that I think we think 276 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: of when we think of no reservations and we think 277 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: of just like you know, why Okay is going to Bangkok? 278 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? That was no reservations also 279 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: like season seventeen, so and yeah, it's like I also 280 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: have to say, it's like, yeah when he talks about 281 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: going to this fucking dive bar, Siberia Bar in fiftieth 282 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: and Broadway, after like a seventeen hour work, like you 283 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: know day and the Cramps are playing on the jukebox. Yeah, 284 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: am I like instantly searching if that bar is still 285 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: open because I want to go there. Sure, um that 286 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: thinks he is just like a very yeah good I'll 287 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: say it, don't say very good writer. And he's like 288 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: I think so of admittedly a better writer than he 289 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: is a chef, which is like refreshing because of like 290 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: all the celebrity chefs that have also gone on to 291 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: like do these shows and write books, is like they 292 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: are also claiming to be amazing chefs, where I feel 293 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: like personalities and they like don't really have that and 294 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: whereas I feel like Tony. If I may be familiar, 295 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 1: it will be like, yeah, you know, we'll say like, hey, 296 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: look like I'm no Eric repair or like, you know, 297 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: I'll just be like I'm a cook. I mean, he 298 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: writes an incredibly dramatic style that's like very excited and 299 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: but like very over the top and very part of 300 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 1: this just like male, like worshipful, tatted aesthetic. He's talking 301 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: about the first restaurant ever worked in Provincetown. In the kitchen, 302 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: they were like gods. They dressed like pirates, chef coats 303 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: with arms slashed off, blue jeans, ragged and faded headbands, 304 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:23,640 Speaker 1: gore covered aprons, gold hoop arians wrist cuff, turquoise necklaces 305 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 1: and chokers, rings of scrimshawn, ivory, tattoos, all the decorative 306 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 1: detritus of the long past summer of love. Okay, I mean, 307 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: I look back on summers and Petown and I think, 308 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: definitely after reading this book, because we've spent a lot 309 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: of summers, there is like I am regret that I 310 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 1: didn't like have like our dear Yeah, anyway, I am 311 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: full of regret that I didn't have a badass summer 312 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,439 Speaker 1: in a restaurant in Pettown. Oh, like actually working at 313 00:17:56,480 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: a restaurant. Yeah, these guys were master criminals, sexual athlete eats. 314 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 1: Compared to my pitiful college hijinks, highwaymen, rogues, buccaneers, cutthroats, 315 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: they were like young princess to me, still only a 316 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 1: lowly dishwasher. The life of the cook was a life 317 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:14,120 Speaker 1: of adventure, looting, pillaging, and rock and rolling through life 318 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: with a carefree disregard for all conventional morality. It looked 319 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: pretty damn good to me on the other side of 320 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: the line. Oh, I mean, yeah, his reading this insane numbers, 321 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 1: like everyone's a total fucking pirate. And there's this scene 322 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: where he gets a cut and you know, he complains 323 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 1: and he's like, do you have a first aid kit? 324 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: And then this like badass, total pirate chef like grabs 325 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: like a cast iron bare hand that was like on 326 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: the stove and just grabs it bare hands, and it's like, sorry, 327 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: where's the first aid kit? Bitch? Just like you build 328 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 1: your scars. There's also a scene in Provincetown and where 329 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: he like decides he wants to become a chef. Was 330 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: when he sees the other chef a bridal party. A 331 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 1: wedding party comes into the restaurant and the bride is 332 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,640 Speaker 1: already like she's like getting kind of wasted, and she's 333 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: in full like eighties wedding dress. Yeah, like just like 334 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: so satin and shiny and like probably veil, probably just 335 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:16,439 Speaker 1: like looks like Lena Dunhams, Christopher Kane, Lenny Rests actually, 336 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 1: and she's like leaning over the like Dutch door, like 337 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: whispering with the chef, and like Anthony Ordane is like 338 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: clocking and being like what's going on? And then he's 339 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 1: just like five minutes later, we all peer out like 340 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 1: the side entrance and there is like our head chef 341 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: and he's got the bride bent over a fifty pound 342 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 1: oil drum and he's fucking her from the backside and 343 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 1: her eyes are rolling into the back of her head 344 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: and he's pound in a way, and we're all looking 345 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 1: and I just thought, damn, I want to be a chef, 346 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: And You're like, okay, okay, yeah, it's kind of insane, 347 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 1: you know. In his post mortem life of you know, 348 00:19:56,320 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 1: he was with his wife Nancy since high school, who 349 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 1: like was with him through his heroin addiction and like 350 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: being like so wasted all the time and crazy. They 351 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 1: got divorced, and then he was with famous well famous 352 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 1: quotes mm a UFC fighter Octavia Bourdain, who he had 353 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 1: a child with, and then he was with Asia Argento 354 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:24,120 Speaker 1: in his last two years yeah before he committed suicide. Yeah, 355 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 1: but he never in this book kind of like the 356 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: whole thing is like, oh yeah, like I fucked her 357 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 1: like over the oil drum. But like he he doesn't 358 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 1: get into his own romances at all. He talks about 359 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: his wife and actually stood by him through his dug 360 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:40,400 Speaker 1: addiction whatever, but like, I don't know, do you think 361 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: he was Like I kind of think he wasn't. And 362 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 1: I think that again, this is a testament more to 363 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: him as a writer that he is dramatizing like everyone 364 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: else's experiences in the kitchen be like these guys like 365 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,880 Speaker 1: fucked everything that moved and stole everything that wasn't nailed down, 366 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: And it's just like but actually, like maybe that means 367 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: he saw like a waiter, like steal twenty dollars one 368 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: heard about one person having sex ones well, because I 369 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 1: kept on thinking about all these times and he'd be 370 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 1: like I was on my couch and my dust field 371 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 1: apartment on twentieth and Broad, pizza piling up. I slept 372 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 1: for five days, and it's like our reach assume his 373 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: wife is like alto passed out with him. I guess 374 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,640 Speaker 1: I was like, are you fucking these? Most junky relationships 375 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 1: are like both people are on heroin? Isn't that their vine? 376 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: I've never done H. Yeah, I've actually never done H either. 377 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 1: It's really interesting you bring that up. I would love 378 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 1: to talk to someone who has. I always feel like 379 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: heroin is one of those drugs where you can do 380 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 1: a lot of it, and if you don't die from it, 381 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: it's not going to like permanently affect you. 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Can we talk about the 418 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: most famous section of the book, which is where he 419 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 1: basically lists like everything that happens in a restaurant that 420 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: is unsavory that diners don't know about. So, of course, 421 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: the most famous thing that he says in this book 422 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 1: is do not order fish on Monday. I remember, I 423 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: mean my sister like committed that to memory. Like my 424 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 1: sister like telling me that is like gospel, because I 425 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 1: feel like she read it in college when she was 426 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 1: like working at restaurants and was like, I'm reading this 427 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 1: crazy book and dover fish. So it's daughter fish on 428 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 1: Mondays and it's basically he goes to this whole thing 429 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,880 Speaker 1: about about how they the restaurants get their fish delivered 430 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 1: on Tuesday or Thursday, so by Sunday and Monday, it's 431 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: all the leftover fish. And that's why. And honestly it's 432 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 1: you go to restaurant, you always see like a seafood 433 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:06,919 Speaker 1: special on a Sunday that's just like an octopus cod 434 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 1: muscle stew, and you're like, that's suspicious. Well, I got 435 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: food poisoning from seviche in Palm Springs, And that was 436 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: one time where I was dru really not listening to Bourdain. 437 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 1: Why was I ordering seviche? It was like Monday in 438 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 1: the sounds good and it was like the portion was 439 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: so big. No, they were they were literally just trying 440 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 1: to unload like all their left over, like sitting out 441 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,479 Speaker 1: for five days in the walk in. You's always talk 442 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 1: about how the walk in like refrigerator is getting open 443 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 1: and clothes all the time. It's just like really not 444 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 1: ideal conditions for preserving food. I mean, I remember getting 445 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: yelled at so much when I worked at Dimes for 446 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:53,160 Speaker 1: like four months because for leaving the fridge no more 447 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: like not putting the milk or like the things that 448 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 1: we're going to be expired sooner towards the front and 449 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 1: the walk in, because you're supposed to like take you know, 450 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: use up the things that are obviously going to expire 451 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 1: a fast or interesting. That's a good strategy. Oh and 452 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 1: you were always hiding the milk in the back and 453 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: then no one was knowing that it was going bad. 454 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 1: Last hiding, I was more just like being sloppy, and 455 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: I was like who cares, Like who the fuck? Like, 456 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 1: I don't care if this milk goes bad. These dumb 457 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 1: bitches can get all the bad milk they want. Ordain 458 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,640 Speaker 1: also says, which is like it's people just can't get 459 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 1: into their brains, just like brunch again is also just 460 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 1: like full of like nasty nasty leftovers. Yeah, well either a. 461 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:33,880 Speaker 1: He was like, hollandaise has never been made to order, 462 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 1: like in the history of hollandaise, hollandaise is like a 463 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 1: breeding gun for bacteria and has been sitting at someone 464 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 1: station for six hours by the time it gets on 465 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 1: top of your eggs, And it's just like oil eggs. 466 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 1: I never or hollandaise. Anything that's in a like a 467 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: shepherd's pie or chili special sounds like leftovers to me. 468 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 1: He's like swordfish have parasitic worms. Chili and sea bass 469 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: is always frozen it's just like he's going down the list, 470 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: and I will say, all these things do feel like 471 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: red flaggy to me. Swordfish I'm not suspicious of. And 472 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 1: if I'm on Nantucket, I assume it's fresh. Well that's 473 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 1: what if you're on Nantucket. But you do have to 474 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: look and ask, because sometimes it's like you can be 475 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 1: at a fancy seafood market and you're seeing this tuna 476 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 1: and you're seeing the swordfish. It like you don't know, 477 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 1: it's still you know, ask what's local. It could be 478 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: frozen or be coming from somewhere fast on a menuh 479 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 1: a menu at the Ritz. Actually the other day in 480 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: Boston at the like really shitty restaurant they have in 481 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:40,640 Speaker 1: the lobby artists and artisan and one of the salads 482 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 1: listed local goat cheese, and I was like, local Boston 483 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: goat cheese, Like what are you talking about? Well, I 484 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 1: assume they mean like mass even so I'm just like, 485 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,959 Speaker 1: are we known for our cheese? Other big thing? I mean, 486 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 1: this is a note just more for home chefs. Is 487 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: that sharpen your god damn knufs. Well, it's it's dangerous 488 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 1: to not because then you'll try and cut too hard 489 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 1: and you'll slip on the avocada when you'll go right 490 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: through if thumb. And he also says, if you're going 491 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 1: to buy this hundred dollars knife, then be sharpening every week, 492 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 1: because then, truly, what's the point oitherwise you're not getting 493 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: your mind You're not now They're huge reveal in this 494 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 1: book that rocked the restaurant industry was the revelation that 495 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,959 Speaker 1: they reuse bread when they take away, when they take 496 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: away the bread bast from the table that people haven't 497 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 1: finished it, that gets repurposed and put into someone else's 498 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 1: basket for later. And he was like, honestly, like, get 499 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 1: over yourself if that bothers you, like, it's bread whatever, 500 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 1: and I you know, and that's again this is his 501 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 1: kind of like, you know, his outlook on the world 502 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 1: that I agree with, because he's like, yeah, like some 503 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 1: things are gross, but some things aren't, and just like 504 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 1: don't be a little bit oh wait, which brings me 505 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 1: reminds me of the thing that I quote from Anthony 506 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: Borden probably literally every time I go to a restaurant 507 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 1: is if the bread service is bad, then the food 508 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 1: is probably bad too. See. This was interesting. So we 509 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 1: because we had not that great bread service at a 510 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: friend restaurant recently, and I remember you bringing this up, 511 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 1: and yet the read the food was I had that 512 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 1: truffle cream soup that was like pretty good. The waitress 513 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: also gave you free like wine at the end of 514 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 1: the night, which was like such a fun you know, 515 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: she was fun and bring in the world, which is 516 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: being French, and like, you know, I think he's always saying, 517 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 1: like be a regular, go on Tuesdays and Thursdays, like 518 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 1: that's when you're going to get the best service. Like 519 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: that's when they want to impress you, and they want 520 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 1: to like find repeat customer. Friday Saturdays for the bridge 521 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 1: and tunnel. It's for the hordes. I guess I will 522 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: say I could tell at that restaurant where it's like 523 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 1: I thought that was totally fun and she was giving 524 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: me port and like we were there at the end 525 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: of the night, and maybe the bread was just old. 526 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 1: I did feel like the scar go was a little rubbery. Yeah, 527 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 1: I felt that this grog was also, I mean, this 528 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 1: is rare, but it was actually it was like over sauced. 529 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 1: It was it was it was so it was supposed 530 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 1: to be drowning in butter. But it was like the 531 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 1: butter was actually trying to conceal right, what was going on. 532 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: I was like, this, something's a little off with this 533 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 1: Guss cargo and we will not name names of this restaurant. 534 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 1: I was kind of on my now third read read 535 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: of this book, like looking up the like legendary chefs 536 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: and like owners that he talks about. Um, I just 537 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 1: tried to follow. I just requested to follow the person 538 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: that he talks about as on grill Bitch. Oh yeah, 539 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 1: but her account was private. Um so yeah, I'll just 540 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 1: I'll let you know what grill Bitch allows you Grill Bitch, 541 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,479 Speaker 1: except yeah, it was definitely like I don't know when 542 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: I was looking up and I was like, okay, well, 543 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 1: I haven't been to any of these closed down West 544 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 1: Village restaurants except for one of the restaurants. When he 545 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: starts working, he's very like disdainful at the beginning of 546 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 1: his career of Italian food, which of course I was offended. 547 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 1: And he's like fuck pasta because he's like ethnically French 548 00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:00,120 Speaker 1: whatever Brode and like, you know, French cuisine is the 549 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 1: kind of the cuisine that like invented the way people 550 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: cook and so he's like Italian, so simple whatever. But 551 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 1: then when he works at that Italian that actual good 552 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 1: Italian restaurant, and he realizes, like all the required should 553 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 1: be made to cook simply al dente, how to truly 554 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 1: use three ingredients and make something beautiful. That pasta should 555 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 1: stand up on its own when it's done cooking or 556 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: like right before it goes back into the pan to 557 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 1: like finished with the sauce or whatever, but it should 558 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: not be just be like rolling around the plate like 559 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 1: wet marbles. Right, and you know he went to he's 560 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 1: from Friend of the Pod or actually now guest of 561 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 1: the Pod. He's from Leonia, where DJ Physical Therapy is 562 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 1: from are he's like originally from that. It is surprising 563 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 1: he has his upbringing. It's very similar to Danny Meyer, 564 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 1: where it's just like he's definitely like upper middle class 565 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 1: enough that he's going to France like as a child 566 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 1: and having so many experience every summer Denny Meyers like 567 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 1: introduction and I guess he's like family there or whatever. Um, 568 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 1: But it's just like because all his his like his 569 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 1: first big introduction to like realizing food could be a 570 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 1: thing was when he had cold soup on this like 571 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 1: ocean liner that he took to France, because I guess 572 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 1: it's like the thirties. Oh, it was like a viqua, 573 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: like what was it? It was like a Swalls which 574 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 1: is is it a leak potato soup? Which is similar 575 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 1: to like what you wanted to make the other week. 576 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 1: I am almost one hundred percent positive that it is 577 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 1: a leak potatoes soup. Do you remember the meal that 578 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 1: changed you to turn you into a gourmet? It was 579 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 1: also a soup for me, and it was also a French. 580 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 1: It's a soup for me. Sus sus sis, It's the 581 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 1: soup for me. I was at the restaurant jule Van, 582 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 1: which is in the Eiffel Tower, Okay, I can, and 583 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 1: it's like fancy rest. I don't think it's like a 584 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 1: Michelin star restaurant, but it's it's kind of a touristaurant, 585 00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 1: but it is like a nice restaurant. And I was 586 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 1: there my parents. I was like ten years old or something, 587 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 1: and I ordered a fish soup and the waiter comes 588 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: over and he puts this like, you know, sort of 589 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 1: shallow chreen down on my plate, and there's like a 590 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:11,959 Speaker 1: little piece of fish with like a garnish on top 591 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 1: of it in the plate, but there's no soup. And 592 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: I'm going, what, there's no soup. You brought me a 593 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 1: fish soup, but there's no sup. Then comes a second 594 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 1: waiter with the like metal cauldron of the hot soup 595 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: and he ladles it onto my plate around this like 596 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 1: beautifully presented little piece of fish. And it was at 597 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 1: that moment I realized food can be an event. Food 598 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 1: is like temporal, like food actually has a time based 599 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 1: element to it, that it can be like this experience, 600 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 1: not just something that is like made somewhere else and 601 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 1: brought to you and you shoved on your goalet. That 602 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 1: food is actually something to be like taken in viscerally 603 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 1: and like something to activate all your senses at once. 604 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I was blown away. I was so excited 605 00:33:55,320 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 1: and pressed untililated and surprised. Your bussy was abst at least, 606 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 1: so I was so keen all the way down to 607 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 1: the foundation of the Eiffel Tower, people down there with 608 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 1: their binoculars getting drips. And I've been chasing that goddamn 609 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 1: high ever since. And that's why I just opened my 610 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 1: old school hot Dog. It's old school soups salad joint, 611 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 1: recreating the chopped salads of my working days in my twenties. 612 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 1: I do need to create like a nostalgic like for 613 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 1: like work salads like once we're like in our forties 614 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 1: and millennials do want like up and salad. Oh we 615 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 1: do remember that place super salad, Yes, from when we 616 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 1: were cats. And it's like so noodles and company, right, 617 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,320 Speaker 1: and you get this like broccoli cheddar and like a 618 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,400 Speaker 1: half grilled cheese. I mean I've said this before, like 619 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 1: gays love soup, and straight guys like think soup is 620 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 1: too gay, but out I get that like soup no 621 00:34:56,360 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 1: put intended is like the backbone of many cultures. Um, yes, yes, 622 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 1: stocks oh, but it's just like I don't know, I'm 623 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 1: not I know some people are just like soup as 624 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 1: my favorite food, like I crave soup. I just don't. 625 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't love soup the way some do. 626 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 1: Of course, I respect so and I get that part 627 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 1: of it isn't fantilizing, and then it takes you back 628 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 1: to I mean, it's mother's milk, right, and I want 629 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 1: something to grizzle. I want my extra teeth filled mouth 630 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 1: because I did have seven and a half. Yes you 631 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 1: heard me, a half teeth pulled as a child. Um, 632 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,360 Speaker 1: oh my god, so you had all your teeth pulled, 633 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:48,360 Speaker 1: a lot of teeth. I had so many cavities. I was. 634 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,320 Speaker 1: I like thought a cavity was like getting a filling, 635 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,760 Speaker 1: was just like what happened when you went to the dentist, 636 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,799 Speaker 1: because I was. I was getting every time I went 637 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 1: to the denting. Yeah, I guess it was gushers and 638 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:01,920 Speaker 1: store rece come in Milloway fris and uritas and whatever 639 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,320 Speaker 1: and who knows. And it was creasy and like I 640 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 1: had to speak to as a child. Of course I 641 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 1: don't anymore now you know that I'm a savory gully. 642 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 1: Stop absolutely, okay, I know it. I want to talk 643 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,399 Speaker 1: about when he works at the gay restaurant, the Wrinkle Room. 644 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 1: Oh my god, we need to talk about. It's like 645 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,360 Speaker 1: these two old gays and they were just like and 646 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 1: he basically describes them as just like having thrown a 647 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 1: lot of dinner parties, and so they think that that 648 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 1: means that you can open a restaurant because you like 649 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 1: having dinner parties. This is okay, this is the biggest takeaway. 650 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,479 Speaker 1: Another thing I quote all the time randomly to people, 651 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 1: and people are like, I don't care. I'm not trying 652 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 1: to open a restaurant. Litleast like do shut up? Is 653 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,280 Speaker 1: I'm always like, well, you know what Anthony Bourdain says, 654 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 1: the problem with opening restaurants is is that you're a 655 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 1: great cook and people come up with your house and 656 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,839 Speaker 1: they say, Susan, you throw the grandest dinner parties. You're 657 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:57,400 Speaker 1: a visual your roast chicken, the wine, the atmosphere. You 658 00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,080 Speaker 1: should open a restaurant. And then our husband is some 659 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 1: retired dentist and they're like, we have some money, Okay, 660 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 1: that'd be really fun. They open a restaurant, all their 661 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:11,359 Speaker 1: friends come, they expect free drinks, they expect free drinks 662 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 1: every weekend. They're giving them out. Honey, you're not You're 663 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 1: in the red. You are not in the black at 664 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,840 Speaker 1: this point, because what is the whole the statistics about restaurants. 665 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,360 Speaker 1: You're not in the black till after two years is 666 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,480 Speaker 1: like the normal, right, And it's just like and all 667 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 1: you're doing is giving away free drinks all your friends 668 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,719 Speaker 1: because you want body is on the floor. You're not 669 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,959 Speaker 1: gonna get the kind of regulars that you need. Because 670 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:33,719 Speaker 1: these people are one and done. They're coming in for 671 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 1: oh that was fun, goodbye, they don't come back. The 672 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,640 Speaker 1: real test is if you have the stomach to like 673 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 1: just churn out food in a consistent way over and 674 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 1: over gun and a lot of pieces lack consistency. So 675 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 1: he's working at this restaurant with these two gay guys 676 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,320 Speaker 1: and they just like clearly don't have the stomach for 677 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:53,880 Speaker 1: running like it consistent operation, and they're they're constantly being like, well, darling, 678 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:55,960 Speaker 1: Lauren Bacall was in here two weeks ago, and it's 679 00:37:55,960 --> 00:38:00,239 Speaker 1: just like, honey, Luren Bacall's dead. And also it was 680 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 1: like in a Brownstone in Hell's Kitchen, which does sound 681 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 1: really fun. It sounds like Townhouse, which is this gay 682 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,960 Speaker 1: bar that is so just like old withered queens, just 683 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 1: like and show tunes, which is actually really sweet and 684 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,759 Speaker 1: I love the vibe. Said that I would if I 685 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 1: was to live in Manhattan, I would want to live 686 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,719 Speaker 1: in Hell's Kitchen. And again, you are six year old 687 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 1: man who owns an antique shop in Palm Springs. I well, 688 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,080 Speaker 1: this part was interesting. So it's like, so then all 689 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 1: the younger like gay waiters like call the restaurant, the 690 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,440 Speaker 1: Wrinkle Room and there, and they're just like savage and 691 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,799 Speaker 1: making fun of these desperate old queens. Let me think, 692 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 1: like a huge part of the gay economy is basically 693 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:46,240 Speaker 1: like older lustful queens like supporting financially like younger gays, 694 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,320 Speaker 1: like inviting them to their houses in the Hamptons, like 695 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 1: buying them drinks that show tunes, bars, and just like 696 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:57,399 Speaker 1: generally being supportive and like having this this economic side 697 00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 1: will continue, and like you know, and when I'm sixty five, 698 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,120 Speaker 1: I'm sure I'll be like coming up to some twenty 699 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,759 Speaker 1: five year old and just being like, I like the 700 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,640 Speaker 1: cutting edge ship. You want to my tea comes to 701 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,440 Speaker 1: my cottage and you're gonna be like, oh those are 702 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:15,239 Speaker 1: really that's a really fun jacket. Hey, yeah, are you 703 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,839 Speaker 1: doing anything over New Year's? A couple of friends in mine. 704 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,399 Speaker 1: We're going in Nantucket a way for high out. Why 705 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 1: don't you? And you just want them to be around 706 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 1: to make you feel young. I was like Club Cafe 707 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:29,920 Speaker 1: this past week in Boston, which is like now like 708 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,719 Speaker 1: Boston's last gay bar, and there was this guy I 709 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 1: was I'll say it, I was on a date and 710 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,600 Speaker 1: there was a guy next to me like a middle 711 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:43,040 Speaker 1: aged guy having massive chicken salad at the bar alone 712 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:47,920 Speaker 1: at just like six thirty pm. That's so Boston. It 713 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 1: was so Boston at one point. And of course, and 714 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:52,680 Speaker 1: you know it's like the lighting there is just like 715 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,800 Speaker 1: so bright, so you can really see your grilled chicken 716 00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:57,840 Speaker 1: just like and it was that kind of the salad 717 00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 1: where there's like twice as much chicken to let us ratio. 718 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,880 Speaker 1: So like, my date goes into the bathroom and then 719 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:05,360 Speaker 1: this guy starts talking to me. He turns to me, 720 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,560 Speaker 1: he's just like, okay, I want I want you to 721 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:09,920 Speaker 1: hazard a guess. How old do you think I was 722 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 1: the first time I kissed a boy? Stop? No, no, 723 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 1: And I was there, well, I'm guessing from your sort 724 00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,560 Speaker 1: of tone that made it was later than I mean expect. 725 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 1: So like, let me guess. I'll say thirty four, which 726 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 1: is my age. Let's put a pin on it. And 727 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:29,640 Speaker 1: he was just like sixty two. No, yeah, And I 728 00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:31,000 Speaker 1: was like, oh wow, I didn't even think you're in 729 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 1: your sixties. And then he goes, all right, your next 730 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 1: four drinks are on me. Okay. I love that's like 731 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 1: so also like radio sweep steaks four drinks like to 732 00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,400 Speaker 1: drink seats. You get a fifty dollars about your at 733 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,520 Speaker 1: Club Cafe. Um, that just makes me think about I 734 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,600 Speaker 1: feel like this is a very boordain about how like 735 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,640 Speaker 1: food is context, Like when he's on the boat, like 736 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,880 Speaker 1: having this first oyster. Oh, the first oyster. Yes, and 737 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:59,279 Speaker 1: food is context is well that that also was a 738 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,800 Speaker 1: moment that change just him because his parents won't try it, 739 00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,560 Speaker 1: and so he needs everyone spread out by the oyster 740 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:08,040 Speaker 1: and he was he like impresses everyone and then he 741 00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:13,600 Speaker 1: goes food is power. Food, Food is power. All I 742 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:15,759 Speaker 1: was going to say about food is context is one 743 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,799 Speaker 1: time we were also at I was with you at 744 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:23,160 Speaker 1: Club Cafe in Boston and you were off with a 745 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:27,840 Speaker 1: group of men and I couldn't find you, and I said, okay, 746 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,239 Speaker 1: you know, but I realized we still did need I 747 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 1: needed to go home with you at the end of 748 00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:36,399 Speaker 1: the nights we were staying at your condo with your doormen. Um. Yeah, 749 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:38,920 Speaker 1: listen to our Patreon if you want to hear us 750 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,840 Speaker 1: go off on doormen. We will go into Dorman culture 751 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:46,480 Speaker 1: in the vip lounge this episode, So stick around and subscribe. 752 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:48,640 Speaker 1: And Boston has a role that if you're going to 753 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,960 Speaker 1: stay open till four am, you need to serve food. 754 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,120 Speaker 1: So I was just like a lone lesbian and they 755 00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,239 Speaker 1: started serving all this deep dish pizza and I was 756 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 1: just loading up on slide, I says, and it was 757 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,759 Speaker 1: so good. If I had bought that slice at like 758 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,160 Speaker 1: just a regular stand and probably be like, oh, this 759 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:10,320 Speaker 1: is whatever you know during the day, but having that 760 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:16,839 Speaker 1: as the house music is, men are stocky five six 761 00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 1: five five. Men are making out all around me and 762 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:31,799 Speaker 1: I'm just downing to your gullett where board Dad says 763 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:33,440 Speaker 1: he had a bad muscle that sent him to the 764 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:37,879 Speaker 1: bathroom shitting like a mink. Oh yeah, so he does 765 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,200 Speaker 1: a nice really this is nothing where I'm just like 766 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,440 Speaker 1: fully snapping my fingers. I agree with him where he's like, 767 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:49,840 Speaker 1: don't kind of like use your food risk experiences to 768 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,400 Speaker 1: your advantage, like definitely like have the random taco from 769 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,480 Speaker 1: the random taco truck right, because it's like you're when 770 00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:58,440 Speaker 1: how often are you gonna Because he's like, but I 771 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:00,680 Speaker 1: man like Barbados and I can see their like flies 772 00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,160 Speaker 1: going around the like barbecue bit, like I don't care 773 00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:04,960 Speaker 1: like how many times am on the beach like, yes, 774 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,000 Speaker 1: I'll have the ribs, like that's good, right, rather than 775 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:09,840 Speaker 1: I don't know what he was comparing it too, but 776 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,520 Speaker 1: basically he's saying, well, he's just like but like but 777 00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:15,520 Speaker 1: like muscles, like be wary of muscles in general, because 778 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,520 Speaker 1: they're insanely easy to cook. So chefs liked them. They 779 00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:19,320 Speaker 1: just like throw them in a vat and put sauce 780 00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:22,000 Speaker 1: on them, and it's just like it's too easy to make, 781 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,160 Speaker 1: which means that they're not going to be like taking 782 00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,879 Speaker 1: care to make sure that every muscle is actually good 783 00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,880 Speaker 1: or that they've been stored properly or what have you. Right, 784 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:33,399 Speaker 1: kind of these easy specials that happen, but like, yeah, 785 00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,120 Speaker 1: the chef is like ordering something that lets the chef 786 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,520 Speaker 1: cough corners, then they're gonna cut quarters, you know what 787 00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:42,040 Speaker 1: I mean, because they have so many people to deal with. 788 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,680 Speaker 1: So I think that leads us kind of a message 789 00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,040 Speaker 1: to our listeners. The end of the Bourdaine Way before 790 00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:50,080 Speaker 1: segments is you know, I don't use your fucking head. 791 00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:51,560 Speaker 1: I guess I don't know. I guess I was going 792 00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:55,000 Speaker 1: to say, like go on awesome sauce food adventures. No, 793 00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,160 Speaker 1: go and foot it like be insanely brave and like 794 00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:00,279 Speaker 1: take risks and then like also use your head, because 795 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:01,759 Speaker 1: some people who think they're not being risk you are 796 00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:03,880 Speaker 1: going to the same shitty Italian restaurant every week and 797 00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,200 Speaker 1: they're that has like eighteen thousand things on the menu 798 00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:08,880 Speaker 1: and it's so kitchen nightmares, and obviously everything is pre frozen, 799 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,400 Speaker 1: and it's like that's actually the biggest risk, right, Like 800 00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:15,400 Speaker 1: the places you're getting food poisoning will literally be like 801 00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:19,839 Speaker 1: um juice generation, the green juice that's like you get 802 00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:24,719 Speaker 1: it for and it's like, yeah, it's just unwashed lettuce. Yeah, 803 00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,160 Speaker 1: and that's been like gathering E coli all day. Right, 804 00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,719 Speaker 1: that's where you're getting food poisoning, not being like I 805 00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,880 Speaker 1: that like kebab place looks sketchy. Get the sketchy kebabs. 806 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:48,080 Speaker 1: Don't get the frozen like shrimp scalapini or whatever segments sauce. 807 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,000 Speaker 1: What does he eat? What does she wear? How does 808 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:55,960 Speaker 1: she live? All? Right? What does he eat? Everything? I 809 00:44:56,080 --> 00:45:00,440 Speaker 1: mean he's eating brain fucking calf liver man like obviously 810 00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:05,000 Speaker 1: when he wasn't doing no reservations and like traveling to 811 00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:09,759 Speaker 1: a mountain to eat like a goat's balls. Um I 812 00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,759 Speaker 1: think he was so chef and just like dude, maybe 813 00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:16,080 Speaker 1: I shoveled like old penny in my mouth at three 814 00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:19,799 Speaker 1: pm and then got like fucking Chinese food like after 815 00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:25,640 Speaker 1: I left Siberia Bar. Yeah. I mean he's definitely an alcoholic. Um. 816 00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:29,000 Speaker 1: So he's drinking a lot, as we all know, um, 817 00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:33,120 Speaker 1: someone who has you know, m dabbled with alcohol in 818 00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:36,520 Speaker 1: the past. You get drunk, you get home, you make 819 00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:40,279 Speaker 1: the crazy three am pasta and you're and you're like, 820 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,880 Speaker 1: you don't really necessarily convene the garlic. You're just like 821 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:46,200 Speaker 1: throwing it in a pan on with fucking sketchy tomatoes 822 00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:51,680 Speaker 1: and catch up and American cheese. Okay, sketrious meal ever. 823 00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:55,880 Speaker 1: But I think he's like having like crazy late night 824 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,160 Speaker 1: drunk like yeah, Like he's getting the halal food and 825 00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:05,080 Speaker 1: he's like, you know, not fisting. What is the germ pounding? 826 00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:08,480 Speaker 1: Like the halal guy just being like you're dope. As 827 00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:14,120 Speaker 1: he gets over, he's very pound the halal guy. Um, 828 00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:19,080 Speaker 1: what does he wear? I mean leather as I mentioned 829 00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:26,880 Speaker 1: za Nah cropped like zagn but earlier I guess what 830 00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:30,040 Speaker 1: in his like more heroin day. It's like pre pre fame. Yeah, 831 00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,959 Speaker 1: I feel like he was still just like really good 832 00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,920 Speaker 1: jeans and it's almost like Mark, I mean Mark Marin 833 00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:40,440 Speaker 1: is insane, were wearing really good jeans in the eighties. 834 00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,880 Speaker 1: I guess, like like paper denim and cloth in nineteen 835 00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,279 Speaker 1: eighty four. Okay, so he's in paper denim in like 836 00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:51,279 Speaker 1: twenty fifteen. Oh, by the way, I'm wearing specially for 837 00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,279 Speaker 1: this episode. I'll post a selfie to the slack and 838 00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,120 Speaker 1: you can see it if you're part of our Patreon. 839 00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,880 Speaker 1: My pinstripe chef pants that I bought at a restaurants 840 00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,719 Speaker 1: fly store and soho oh fuck yeah, because they're kind 841 00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:06,520 Speaker 1: of giving like Japanese pajama elevated vibes, but they're also 842 00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:10,680 Speaker 1: giving full work wear. It's not stolen valor because you 843 00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,560 Speaker 1: did used to work at times, Yes, thank you. And 844 00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:20,160 Speaker 1: it's also not stolen valor because like, um, I don't know, 845 00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:25,440 Speaker 1: it's pin striped and I'm a gangsta by DNA. Okay, 846 00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:30,560 Speaker 1: walk it back. He speaking of stripes. He familis he 847 00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,160 Speaker 1: wears this sear sucker suit to like his job interview, 848 00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,239 Speaker 1: the one where like the chef like makes fun of 849 00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:38,520 Speaker 1: him for getting his finger burnt where he's like at 850 00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,360 Speaker 1: that other Provincetown restaurant and he like gets this like 851 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,600 Speaker 1: blue searsucker suit and he's like, i'd look like a 852 00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,680 Speaker 1: fucking like two bit loser, like getting off of his 853 00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:50,120 Speaker 1: daddy's yacht with just like eighteen dildos up his ass 854 00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:54,120 Speaker 1: um And I feel like that kind of shows that 855 00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,000 Speaker 1: his style is maybe a little bit more preppy, because 856 00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:57,440 Speaker 1: he did grew up kind of fancy. So I do 857 00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:01,359 Speaker 1: feel like maybe he's a little bit more wearing when 858 00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:04,880 Speaker 1: to say at khakis, and he was more dockers, like 859 00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:10,759 Speaker 1: dockers in T shirt like with chef shoes, and that 860 00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:14,879 Speaker 1: was his like normal everyday stime in the eighties, say, 861 00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,320 Speaker 1: in the eighties and nineties. Yeah, I really think he 862 00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,239 Speaker 1: I think this year sucker suit thing was a big 863 00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,840 Speaker 1: wake up call for him, and I think he switched 864 00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:26,840 Speaker 1: to jeans really fast. He also mentions like some restaurants 865 00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:31,359 Speaker 1: that he only jeans. Yeah, the doctors. I've just never 866 00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,120 Speaker 1: seen him in a pair of doctors. He's always in 867 00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:35,759 Speaker 1: jeans and a white button down. Like I've just never 868 00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,040 Speaker 1: seen him anything. He just like he like what he's 869 00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,600 Speaker 1: picked jeans in like nineteen eighty six and never looked back, 870 00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:42,160 Speaker 1: and I've been in jeans ever since, and he's just 871 00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,239 Speaker 1: gone along with the jean trends. Yeah, and he was 872 00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,600 Speaker 1: like he's gone down on trends, and like then he 873 00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:48,200 Speaker 1: started wearing paper die on the cloth, like in the 874 00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:51,080 Speaker 1: early two thousands when like men's expensive jeans at Nordstrom's 875 00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,480 Speaker 1: became a thing and he became famous. And I think 876 00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:57,400 Speaker 1: he had like a more badass leather coat that's probably cooler. 877 00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:00,239 Speaker 1: And then he did switch to the Zenya and came 878 00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:03,560 Speaker 1: just like so Obama casual style. Yeah, soft expensive tea, 879 00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:07,399 Speaker 1: rag and bone, a couple of button downs, really good 880 00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,719 Speaker 1: white button down, certainly no break. He feels very I 881 00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,440 Speaker 1: mean Club Monaco to me. Yeah. The thing about him 882 00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,440 Speaker 1: is I do wonder if he was like because he 883 00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:18,080 Speaker 1: talks about all the chefs having this like crazy pirate style, 884 00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:21,000 Speaker 1: so like in the eighties when his first working restaurants, 885 00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:24,040 Speaker 1: and they all wore like hoop earrings, like door knockers, 886 00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:27,640 Speaker 1: and like so many silk bandanas, and they had like 887 00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,520 Speaker 1: crazy mustaches and like eyeliner, and they all looked like 888 00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:34,959 Speaker 1: Johnny Tapp And I feel like he maybe was too 889 00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:37,799 Speaker 1: intimidated by them to dress like that and then once 890 00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,359 Speaker 1: he started becoming like a better chef, he just felt 891 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,520 Speaker 1: like that wasn't really his culture and so like he 892 00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:46,320 Speaker 1: was going to continue having boring like Prezegna style. I 893 00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:49,560 Speaker 1: think so. I also think he's a little bit homophobic 894 00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:51,479 Speaker 1: in this way, like he think he loves gay folk, 895 00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:53,279 Speaker 1: and he's constantly surrounded by gay folk, and he's always 896 00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:56,440 Speaker 1: say in the restaurant culture is gay culture, because he's 897 00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:58,239 Speaker 1: like everyone is like always just being like you take 898 00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,320 Speaker 1: it up the ass. No, you take it up. They ask, 899 00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,000 Speaker 1: and it's about being comfortable with and it's like so 900 00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:07,480 Speaker 1: much dry humping, and he's like, in restaurant gossip culture 901 00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:10,000 Speaker 1: is gay gossip culture. But I also think that he 902 00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:12,839 Speaker 1: is kind of like, dude, I'm ask and like, dude, 903 00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:15,480 Speaker 1: I'm not going to wear pink, do you because because 904 00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:17,960 Speaker 1: I will get like fucking like if I wear pink, 905 00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,000 Speaker 1: everyone's gonna be like, yo, you take it up the ass. 906 00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:24,000 Speaker 1: He's definitely not wearing pink. I don't think so. I 907 00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:26,640 Speaker 1: think he's not an agassie, you know what. I'm so no, 908 00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,560 Speaker 1: I really own the another like straight man of his 909 00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:32,680 Speaker 1: same general who was like a badass. I think he 910 00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,200 Speaker 1: has four white T shirts and four black T shirts 911 00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:39,560 Speaker 1: and two white button downs and maybe two like gingham 912 00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:43,520 Speaker 1: checked button downs. Yeah, I'm just My only addendum to 913 00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:45,160 Speaker 1: that I agree with you is is that he actually 914 00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:49,120 Speaker 1: has like twenty white T shirts pretty dark gray T shirts. 915 00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:53,600 Speaker 1: I will two. This closet basically looks like the ragon 916 00:50:53,680 --> 00:51:00,839 Speaker 1: Bones section at Neiman Marcus. Yes, absolutely agree. How does 917 00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,120 Speaker 1: he live? Well? Obviously in his like Heroin Days, he's 918 00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:06,320 Speaker 1: been so just like at one pack of saulteenes and 919 00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:08,840 Speaker 1: like an old TV that didn't work on the floor, 920 00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:11,799 Speaker 1: like I slept on a pile of clothes. Right, He's 921 00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:16,200 Speaker 1: like my dusty, dusty, dusty apartment. Every apartment like is 922 00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:19,239 Speaker 1: in kind of like pre Danny Meyer universe where it's 923 00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:24,680 Speaker 1: like you're living in like first and ninth. He wasn't 924 00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:26,880 Speaker 1: even being so Patti Smith. I feel like he was 925 00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:31,200 Speaker 1: so much more like East like Grammercy, like twenty eighth 926 00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:35,120 Speaker 1: and second twenty second. He's like, and I paid two 927 00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:38,200 Speaker 1: hundred dollars, but I paid like seventy five dollars a 928 00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:42,000 Speaker 1: week for like a roach infested like Chambre dab And 929 00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,440 Speaker 1: he's like him and Nancy are there and they're watching 930 00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:47,960 Speaker 1: this TV and he's slapping and he's like fucking work. Okay, 931 00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:49,960 Speaker 1: but what did I want to? Okay? What did he 932 00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:55,080 Speaker 1: How did he live? Though, Like, let's talk twenty eleven, 933 00:51:56,000 --> 00:52:00,440 Speaker 1: all of his shows. I think he did have this 934 00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:05,800 Speaker 1: like French style kitchen A little bit, yes, but I 935 00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:09,520 Speaker 1: think you know what I got to say, Yeah, yeah, 936 00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:12,400 Speaker 1: come on, he has to be doesn't he define? Like 937 00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:16,400 Speaker 1: twenty eleven Buddha. He's like constantly going to Thailand just 938 00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:18,920 Speaker 1: being like I love the people, and he's always searching 939 00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:21,839 Speaker 1: the culture. I love the people he's searching. I also 940 00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,719 Speaker 1: think addend him to what does he wear? I think 941 00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:28,759 Speaker 1: he does have like a just a super simple leather 942 00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:34,160 Speaker 1: strap he wears around his wrist like a not like 943 00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,320 Speaker 1: such a von Dutch cup, No, not more simple like 944 00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:41,400 Speaker 1: an ermez like yeah, and maybe like someone gave it 945 00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:45,800 Speaker 1: to him in Thailand or whatever, like yeah, like a 946 00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:49,760 Speaker 1: really incredible concierge at like the Higher Regency and Goa 947 00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:54,600 Speaker 1: gave him a lend strap as a thank you and 948 00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:56,719 Speaker 1: he's wearing it with his still he's rolled up. I 949 00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,200 Speaker 1: think he's but yeah, absolutely think he's Buddha. I think 950 00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:05,319 Speaker 1: it's French tree kitchen with a Buddha outside and kind 951 00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:09,080 Speaker 1: of this like Rocky garden, a little bit native plants. 952 00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:16,759 Speaker 1: Where is this he does? I think in California, though 953 00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:18,759 Speaker 1: he probably did just like always live in New York. 954 00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:21,680 Speaker 1: He's such a New York gist, you know what I mean. 955 00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:25,279 Speaker 1: I feel like he would hate celebrity, probably had to 956 00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:28,680 Speaker 1: live in la because in Paris though, I feel like 957 00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:30,480 Speaker 1: he did have a Hampton. That makes a lot more 958 00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:34,400 Speaker 1: sense because that's so like chef and my gf did 959 00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:38,560 Speaker 1: see him once at the Southamptons. Sit like living in 960 00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,160 Speaker 1: the Hamptons because they have like the space to have 961 00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:43,120 Speaker 1: a big kitchen on the have An Island. So that's 962 00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:47,080 Speaker 1: why I like Giotta and like um, what's her name Ida, 963 00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:49,120 Speaker 1: and like everyone else just like wants to have a 964 00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:51,640 Speaker 1: Hampton's home and it's close to the city and they 965 00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:55,120 Speaker 1: can also I think like have like make a ton 966 00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:58,200 Speaker 1: of other chefs over and make a ton of money 967 00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:01,200 Speaker 1: through like weird charity thing. That's like I'm sure he 968 00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:04,880 Speaker 1: was doing like Anthony Bourdain is cooking for fifteen people 969 00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:09,120 Speaker 1: at black Rock, Yes, absolutely no fifteen black Rock, and 970 00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:12,719 Speaker 1: like he's making two hundred thousand dollars for two hours right, 971 00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:16,680 Speaker 1: or it's like fakely for a charity. It's like cleft 972 00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:19,520 Speaker 1: Lip Children. Oh and it's yeah, it's so Sharon Stone 973 00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:23,480 Speaker 1: and it's dental buses and like all the money is 974 00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:26,320 Speaker 1: just going to fund like another like diavon Furstenberg, like 975 00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:29,560 Speaker 1: yacht that sings because he's doing just super relaxed. It's 976 00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:33,279 Speaker 1: a much grilled lamb shoulder with Jimmy Churry. I know, 977 00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:34,920 Speaker 1: I wonder if he's still making because like in this 978 00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:39,040 Speaker 1: book happens a little bit before, like obviously the it's 979 00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:41,600 Speaker 1: like Alice Waters was happening in the eighties or whatever, 980 00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:43,400 Speaker 1: but I guess like she hadn't hadn't really gotten to 981 00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:46,120 Speaker 1: New York yet, because this book is still basically everything 982 00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:48,880 Speaker 1: is like the dustiest old old style European way of cooking, 983 00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,520 Speaker 1: like at every restaurant, and he's always being just like, yeah, 984 00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:54,520 Speaker 1: we were doing fucking aspects and like that, like so 985 00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:56,960 Speaker 1: many crazy like gelatine desserts and just like some may 986 00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,600 Speaker 1: like steak dians and it's just like so many coat 987 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:10,480 Speaker 1: of how do you pronounce that? I was like, and 988 00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:13,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, and it's not even this was long before 989 00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:16,239 Speaker 1: farm to table but and and this is why I 990 00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:19,600 Speaker 1: think that, Like he never even mentions Alice watersons they 991 00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:23,200 Speaker 1: have a beef good. He says good ingredients, but he 992 00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:25,640 Speaker 1: doesn't like harp on it. He's not like really good 993 00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:28,400 Speaker 1: olive oil. You know. Again, he's not such a like 994 00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:30,880 Speaker 1: he's not really a chef so much as he is 995 00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:36,040 Speaker 1: like cook fucking getting it on the line, Like he's 996 00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:40,239 Speaker 1: like fucking wan is behind me, Like hell yes, like 997 00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:42,719 Speaker 1: you are my bitch. I'm closer to my suit chief 998 00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:44,520 Speaker 1: than I am to my wife. And that's how it 999 00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:49,520 Speaker 1: suck more often too. Um, not to add another segment, 1000 00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:52,560 Speaker 1: but how does he fuck Oh damn, let's get into it. 1001 00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:55,000 Speaker 1: I mean, does he have such a Terry Richardson just 1002 00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:58,200 Speaker 1: like solid seven and a half dick? Um? I mean 1003 00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:00,520 Speaker 1: he feels it feels like the answer is does have 1004 00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:02,839 Speaker 1: the confidence at seven and a half? I do feel 1005 00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:06,880 Speaker 1: like it's a little bit thin. Oh yeah, I mean 1006 00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:08,880 Speaker 1: you're saying that because Bill Dane is kind of the 1007 00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:15,319 Speaker 1: French name and you think every French guy is gipstick baghetti. 1008 00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:21,320 Speaker 1: I feel like he had years of coke dick, absolutely 1009 00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:23,320 Speaker 1: had years of cooked dick where he was just like 1010 00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:26,880 Speaker 1: having slightly soft sex for three and a half hours 1011 00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:30,120 Speaker 1: with Nancy on a cot and just like on East 1012 00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,799 Speaker 1: twenty sixth Street and then rolling into the restaurant at 1013 00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:35,920 Speaker 1: seven forty five in the morning, and just like because 1014 00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:40,040 Speaker 1: throughout the whole book, right, he's like, I never saw Nancy, 1015 00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:43,440 Speaker 1: and so you're like, I feel like maybe he was 1016 00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:46,560 Speaker 1: having a little more sober tantric sex with the Mma 1017 00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:51,480 Speaker 1: wife Octavia. Yeah, and then by the Argento days, like 1018 00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:55,080 Speaker 1: they're having I think more like, I mean, she seems 1019 00:56:55,080 --> 00:57:00,799 Speaker 1: a little bit woman on top. She seems very Italian girl, 1020 00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:08,359 Speaker 1: upside down cowgirl, and like he's trying to keep up, 1021 00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:10,840 Speaker 1: but he is like fifty seven at this point, and 1022 00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:15,600 Speaker 1: she's really rocking him into the free world. Do you 1023 00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:17,600 Speaker 1: think he's so like going down in a woman for 1024 00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:20,200 Speaker 1: forty five minutes? I think he look because I think 1025 00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:23,160 Speaker 1: he's so oral, because I think he probably has trouble 1026 00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:26,400 Speaker 1: getting hard because of the working hours and the heroine 1027 00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:28,840 Speaker 1: and the coke and the beer. So he's like eat, 1028 00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:34,440 Speaker 1: I mean, no, I will. Yeah, you're a tactic. You're 1029 00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:37,640 Speaker 1: so right. It's like when I'm sometimes not not to 1030 00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:40,400 Speaker 1: get to personal of its growth that I'm talking about sucks, 1031 00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:42,440 Speaker 1: like please stop me and I won't because this is 1032 00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:45,400 Speaker 1: a Christian pod. But like, sometimes if I'm having trouble 1033 00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:48,960 Speaker 1: getting hard, like you can immediately just either go down 1034 00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:51,720 Speaker 1: to a guy or even more so, I think, actually, no, 1035 00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:53,920 Speaker 1: this is the thing I'm having trouble getting hard. I'm 1036 00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:58,280 Speaker 1: more likely to rim a gentleman because I'm like it 1037 00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:03,040 Speaker 1: feels more toppy. I'm like, take, I'm like compensating for 1038 00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:04,680 Speaker 1: the fact that I'm like not getting hard. So I'm like, 1039 00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:06,520 Speaker 1: let me just like rim you where it's like if 1040 00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:08,800 Speaker 1: I'm sucking dick, then it's just like I'm not really 1041 00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:10,800 Speaker 1: compensating for the fact that I'm not getting hard for them. 1042 00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:13,000 Speaker 1: So I feel, no, it gets things. I've got to 1043 00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:17,479 Speaker 1: go to the pussy going Who am I in the book? 1044 00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:20,520 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously like I want to be Bourdaine, um, 1045 00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:26,760 Speaker 1: but I think both of us sure have Bourdain's is 1046 00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:30,480 Speaker 1: ms in us. I also feel like maybe I'm just 1047 00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:34,080 Speaker 1: like grill bitch and I'm so like fucking like m 1048 00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:36,280 Speaker 1: being so like fuck me up the ass chokes with 1049 00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:39,160 Speaker 1: the boys in the kitchen. No, yeah, I mean because 1050 00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:41,640 Speaker 1: this whole book is very this very like sass or 1051 00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:44,520 Speaker 1: be sassed attitude to me too, where it's just like 1052 00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:47,240 Speaker 1: every time something they're sexual harassment happening, and it's always 1053 00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:50,320 Speaker 1: like and you throw it right back, like we're the 1054 00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:52,640 Speaker 1: guy who like the one when he's like work at 1055 00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:54,720 Speaker 1: the rainbow room and the guy that's like always slapping 1056 00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:56,760 Speaker 1: his ass and then whenday, he just stabs him in 1057 00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,240 Speaker 1: the hand and the guy's just like bleeding, has to 1058 00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:01,080 Speaker 1: go to the hospital and he's like and after that, 1059 00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:05,000 Speaker 1: everyone respective or the one. It was like the other? 1060 00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,360 Speaker 1: Is it the grill bitch? I think it's grill bitch? Fuck? 1061 00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:11,120 Speaker 1: They like Ecuadorian lion cook over the steam yeah, because 1062 00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:12,840 Speaker 1: he was always timing her house and then she like 1063 00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:16,080 Speaker 1: dry hums him for like fully forty minutes and it's like, 1064 00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:19,440 Speaker 1: how do you like it now, bitch? And he was 1065 00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:24,200 Speaker 1: so ashamed and he like never tried it again. Um okay, yeah, 1066 00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:28,640 Speaker 1: I are you fucking like the lion Cook? I mean, 1067 00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:32,240 Speaker 1: I know I kind of identified with Adam the breadmaker, 1068 00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:35,800 Speaker 1: who's like thinks he's such a like artist, but he's 1069 00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:38,440 Speaker 1: like being so annoying and like not showing up and 1070 00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:41,160 Speaker 1: like being like like being such a fucking little shit. 1071 00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:43,320 Speaker 1: But they like put up with him because his bread 1072 00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:50,200 Speaker 1: is so fucking good. Yeah. I was also thinking, like, yeah, 1073 00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:53,200 Speaker 1: are you also like the GM like at one of 1074 00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:56,920 Speaker 1: the restaurants who's always like having martinis with like him, 1075 00:59:57,040 --> 01:00:00,280 Speaker 1: but like actually being so self and faced and like 1076 01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:02,560 Speaker 1: not doing anything and just talking shit about everyone. Yeah. 1077 01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:05,480 Speaker 1: Oh his, well, his two chef Stephen that's like collects 1078 01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:07,800 Speaker 1: the gossip about everyone. Yeah, you are that too. I 1079 01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:10,000 Speaker 1: was talking about this other GM, But I do think 1080 01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:11,880 Speaker 1: both of us have a little bit of Stephen, who 1081 01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:14,160 Speaker 1: are always like taking others out for drinks and like 1082 01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:17,680 Speaker 1: getting the dish. We're also both waiters at Wrinkle in 1083 01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:26,480 Speaker 1: Time or whatever Wrinkle in Time room. Yeah, no, we're waiting. 1084 01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:28,880 Speaker 1: We're just waiters at this gay restaurant that's absolutely going 1085 01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:31,000 Speaker 1: ontoer and we don't care in Midtown and we're like 1086 01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:34,880 Speaker 1: we're the laziest people in the book. Um anyway, I 1087 01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:41,560 Speaker 1: give this book. Uh ten, like extremely sharp Japanese chef 1088 01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:44,840 Speaker 1: knives out of Town. I give this. Can't recommend it enough? Yeah, 1089 01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:50,000 Speaker 1: ten Demi frozen Demi gloss cubes to be put on 1090 01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:53,240 Speaker 1: the saute pan before girls service. Out of ten. This 1091 01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:56,240 Speaker 1: book is required reading if you eat, if you've ever 1092 01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:59,960 Speaker 1: been to a rest living like reading. They should tea 1093 01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:03,160 Speaker 1: to this in schools. It's about fucking life, dude. Yeah, seriously, man, 1094 01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:06,480 Speaker 1: this is like fucking Finnigan's weak Man, one of the 1095 01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:10,560 Speaker 1: most epic books ever. Okay. Also, so hey, we're in 1096 01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:12,520 Speaker 1: the beginning where he's like, yeah, I know it's lay 1097 01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:20,320 Speaker 1: my heroes. Oh shut up. Oh okay. Next week we 1098 01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:26,920 Speaker 1: are reading well in many ways. Okay, we are reading 1099 01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:30,320 Speaker 1: a book by the biggest celebrity in the entire world. 1100 01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:33,920 Speaker 1: It's written by God and the book is that called 1101 01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:40,880 Speaker 1: the Bible. So really can't wait to just dig into 1102 01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:45,040 Speaker 1: God's memoir as it were. Um, a lot of fun 1103 01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:47,880 Speaker 1: stories in there. I've heard a lot about this book. 1104 01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:53,080 Speaker 1: It's been a must read for super controversial. Yeah, the 1105 01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:55,720 Speaker 1: Daily Mail has been talking always on the bestseller list. 1106 01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:59,360 Speaker 1: Got my hardcover at the airport at Hudson News. Can't 1107 01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:04,160 Speaker 1: wait to dig it. Gift guide Boots. Oh, thank you 1108 01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:06,560 Speaker 1: so much, you guys. We will see you next weekend. 1109 01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:08,480 Speaker 1: For those in the VIP lounge, we will see you 1110 01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:26,880 Speaker 1: right right now. Best best welcome to them the key Low. 1111 01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:29,240 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming. We have so much 1112 01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:32,360 Speaker 1: to cover in today's secret segment, so let's just get 1113 01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:36,880 Speaker 1: right to it. Let's get into it first topic. Everyone's 1114 01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:38,840 Speaker 1: talking about it as in you and me because you 1115 01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:41,520 Speaker 1: can see me. Is my cold sword that's been here 1116 01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:47,040 Speaker 1: for about a full week eve of my thirty fifth birthday. 1117 01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:51,160 Speaker 1: Massive cold sore. Thirty five obviously, as we all know, 1118 01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:57,080 Speaker 1: the canonically saddest age of all time that you're about 1119 01:02:57,120 --> 01:03:00,240 Speaker 1: to enter into. 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