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Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome back to another episode of the

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Speaker 1: cycle the Fantasy Pros Fantasy Baseball Podcast. I am your host,

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Speaker 1: Mike Mayer. I am not Ryan Wormley. He is not

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Speaker 1: here with us today. He just absolutely refuses to host

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Speaker 1: the show with me. I just recently saw him in

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Speaker 1: Vegas and he said, I'm having shoulder surgery next week.

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Speaker 1: Do the show without me, and I will just say

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Speaker 1: I had the same surgery as Worm did, and I'm

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Speaker 1: here and he is not. So you can say maybe

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Speaker 1: the fact that my surgery was seven weeks ago and

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Speaker 1: his was on Monday, as to why I'm here and

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Speaker 1: he's not. But I feel like that's irrelevant. I would

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Speaker 1: still be here regardless, but he's not here. And I'm

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Speaker 1: going to talk about the twenty twenty five Fantasy Baseball drafts,

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Speaker 1: strategies and targets that you need to know. And I'm

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Speaker 1: joined today by Kelly Kirby, an upgrade Overworm. Fun fact,

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Speaker 1: Kelly's nickname in high school was actually the upgrade, so

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Speaker 1: we can talk about that as well. Kelly, how are

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Speaker 1: you doing today?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing pretty well. I think some players rehab a

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Speaker 2: little bit faster than other players, but I do think

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Speaker 2: we should cut them a little slack for it being

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Speaker 2: four days ago for the most part, but yeah, I

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Speaker 2: know I am doing pretty great. I am looking at

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Speaker 2: all the players, look at all the strategies, trying to

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Speaker 2: figure out what I want to do for some of

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Speaker 2: the bigger drafts, and for the most part, it just

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Speaker 2: makes my brain spin. So it'll be great.

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't know how much slack we can actually

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Speaker 1: cut him for having surgery on Monday, because he had

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Speaker 1: surgery on Monday. He's not here. You, by the looks

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Speaker 1: of your backdrop, actually passed away recently and are doing

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Speaker 1: the show from heaven. Yes, because that is a blindingly

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Speaker 1: white backdrop. We desperately have to send you a backdrop.

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Speaker 1: But it is fun for this show, and it's especially

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Speaker 1: fun because you're doing it from you know, the other side,

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Speaker 1: and more committed than worm for.

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Speaker 2: Sure, more committed. I died and came back to talk

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Speaker 2: about pocket ass. So let's do this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, all right, So let's dive right in. As

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Speaker 1: I mentioned, we're going to talk about Fantasy Baseball draft

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Speaker 1: strategies and targets. I'm going to hit on some strategies

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Speaker 1: right here at the top, and then what we're going

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Speaker 1: to do is kind of go through some of our

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Speaker 1: topics or our favorite targets, we will hit on, you know,

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Speaker 1: kind of when you can draft these guys based on

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Speaker 1: the different strategies that you're using. So a quick intro.

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Speaker 1: We're not going to do all the strategies because there

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Speaker 1: are a ton of them, but you know, some of

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Speaker 1: the most popular ones. One of the more popular ones

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Speaker 1: in recent years is pocket aces, which is drafting two

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Speaker 1: at the top. There's best player available, which is a

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Speaker 1: people who want to build those balanced rosters, just drafting

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Speaker 1: know about you, Kelly. Do you ever go into a

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Speaker 2: But no, like two years ago, I was I think

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Speaker 1: But you know, if you went pocket aces with Spencer

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Speaker 1: You can also call it like zero SP if you

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Speaker 1: And we'll talk about one of them later, just you know,

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Speaker 2: the strategies that are that extreme, like once you decide

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna do this during the draft and

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Speaker 1: On it right away.

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Speaker 2: Like you you kind of have to commit to it

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And that is a pretty important distinction between head

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Speaker 1: have to buy in, but you're just trying to win

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Speaker 1: one one week at a time, and you know, there's

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Speaker 1: like you know, in April, you are not winning that league,

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Speaker 1: which is just the worst feeling. That is a good

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Speaker 1: distinction we can kind of we'll talk about throughout kind

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Speaker 1: of like head to head versus ROTO, because I'm in

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Speaker 1: a bunch of both leagues and the strategies do vary.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I kind of lean head to head.

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Speaker 1: I know, like the traditional like baseball fantamies should like

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Speaker 1: I think what I might try in a couple of

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Speaker 1: leagues is what we just talked about, where if I

435
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Speaker 1: have a late first, I might try to double tap

436
00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:31,320
Speaker 1: Skiins in Schooble and see if I get them both.

437
00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,919
Speaker 1: If I have a mid round first and I I

438
00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:38,480
Speaker 1: still might go Skiens knowing I'm not going to get Schooble,

439
00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:42,639
Speaker 1: but then I can get a hitter in that early window,

440
00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,160
Speaker 1: and then I can still depending on where my pick comes,

441
00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,840
Speaker 1: I can still get a Wheeler or a Logan Gilbert

442
00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,000
Speaker 1: or potentially a Gara Crochet, who I am willing to

443
00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,840
Speaker 1: take in the third round. I would prefer a safer pick,

444
00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:56,440
Speaker 1: but I do think Eric Crochet has an interesting ceiling.

445
00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,040
Speaker 1: What about your hitter? What about your early round hitter

446
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Speaker 1: that you're that is intrigued that you would like to

447
00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:01,840
Speaker 1: discuss here on the.

448
00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,040
Speaker 2: Cycle I feel like I may end up overdrafting this

449
00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:06,920
Speaker 2: guy because I never draft this guy, and every time

450
00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,520
Speaker 2: I write his player I always draft this guy. Every

451
00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:11,479
Speaker 2: time I write his player note, I'm always just like,

452
00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,200
Speaker 2: why do I not draft this guy? So Francisco Lindor

453
00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,520
Speaker 2: is just like a walking thirty thirty season. He only

454
00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,080
Speaker 2: stole twenty nine games last year or twenty nine bases

455
00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:23,720
Speaker 2: last year, but that's close enough in my world. And

456
00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,560
Speaker 2: now he gets too bat in front of Juan Soto.

457
00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:29,400
Speaker 2: I don't care if you put him in front or behind,

458
00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,960
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter like that. And then you get Alonso

459
00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,280
Speaker 2: in there, like he's a score you a ton of runs,

460
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Speaker 2: and he's just got that floor that I mean, you can't.

461
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Speaker 2: I feel like he's just got the highest floor of

462
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Speaker 2: anyone in the first like three rounds that you can

463
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Speaker 2: just count on, no questions asked, this is what you're

464
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Speaker 2: going to get. So yeah, he's easily my favorite, and

465
00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,359
Speaker 2: like he would probably be the player that would stop

466
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Speaker 2: me from doing pocket ass just because his ADP is

467
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Speaker 2: what twelve sixteen, so you got to get him in

468
00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,359
Speaker 2: that second round. So it's hard to do the pitching.

469
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Speaker 1: I don't want to say he's been underappreciated because he's

470
00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:07,439
Speaker 1: been an All Star. He's been like a really good player,

471
00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,680
Speaker 1: but like even in Fantasy, he's been like so reliable,

472
00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,720
Speaker 1: and even last year got off that slow star and

473
00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:14,119
Speaker 1: everyone was kind of worried about him, and then by

474
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Speaker 1: the end of the year he was an MVP candidate

475
00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:17,639
Speaker 1: and everyone was talking about how underappreciated he is and

476
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Speaker 1: how awesome it is, and I was like, I know,

477
00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,200
Speaker 1: he's always been awesome. I always dropped in fantasy because

478
00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,480
Speaker 1: he's always great. He's always just like producing across the board.

479
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,199
Speaker 1: And it's it's again, you know, you can get him

480
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Speaker 1: at the end of the first round, early second round,

481
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Speaker 1: depending on your league, probably late first round, but uh,

482
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Speaker 1: you know, depending on where the ADP falls. But where

483
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Speaker 1: his ADP right now, just looking at the different leagues,

484
00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,840
Speaker 1: it's right at the turn. You know. It's it's eleven

485
00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:45,200
Speaker 1: on Yahoo, it's fifteen on ESPN, NFBC is fifteen. You

486
00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:46,600
Speaker 1: can get him in the second round in some really

487
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:50,360
Speaker 1: good leagues. So yeah, I completely agree. We've been spent

488
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Speaker 1: a ton of time on Franciss Colondora. Not early early round,

489
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:59,040
Speaker 1: love for him, but you completely agree. Mine is Mookie

490
00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:02,160
Speaker 1: Betts for kind of similar reasons. He had a bit

491
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,399
Speaker 1: of a down year, if you want to call it that,

492
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:08,600
Speaker 1: but also still really good despite missing some time. He's

493
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Speaker 1: someone you can get in like the middle to late

494
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Speaker 1: of the first round. Still his ADP is around like

495
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Speaker 1: seven nine to ten depending on the format, and the

496
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Speaker 1: only players going ahead of him are Otani, Bobby Witt,

497
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:25,600
Speaker 1: Aaron Judge, Jose Ramirez, Juan Soto, Gunner Henderson, Kyle Tucker,

498
00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:30,440
Speaker 1: and maybe not ahead of the top five, but ahead

499
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Speaker 1: of the next few. I think I would still prefer

500
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Speaker 1: Mookie Bets, especially when we talk about what we talked

501
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,520
Speaker 1: about before, is that positional versatility, because he's gonna have outfield,

502
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,480
Speaker 1: second base, and shortstop versatility. So if you take an

503
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,960
Speaker 1: early Mookie Bets, your roster construction is just wide open.

504
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 1: You can do whatever you want. And so that's someone

505
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 1: that someone who has my you know, it's we don't

506
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:52,440
Speaker 1: spend a ton time with early round talents, like, hey,

507
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,480
Speaker 1: Mooki Bets is really good, Frantisical Door is really good,

508
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,359
Speaker 1: like of course, but it is interesting to kind of

509
00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 1: talk about, like why we're talking retarding them, and so

510
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Speaker 1: if we have an early for our early first round pick,

511
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,119
Speaker 1: like if I was one on one, I'm picking on Tony,

512
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,160
Speaker 1: so it is what it is. If not probably Bobby

513
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,159
Speaker 1: Wit and then you can talk about some of the

514
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 1: other ones. And then before we jump in the middle round.

515
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Speaker 1: The one thing I wanted to mention a little bit

516
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Speaker 1: about like kind of that second round, like the pocket

517
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 1: ace Tweeners, if you're going like early pitcher hitter second

518
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:22,879
Speaker 1: round and then third round. I didn't preface this for

519
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,199
Speaker 1: you at all, so you have no preparation for what

520
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 1: I'm about to talk about, except for the fact that

521
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:28,919
Speaker 1: I tease it a little bit in the sheet. I

522
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,879
Speaker 1: do players I like targeting in that second round. If

523
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Speaker 1: you're kind of going to try and split the difference,

524
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,680
Speaker 1: I call like Tweeners, Lindor who we already talked about,

525
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 1: Jaron Durant who just had a fantastic season, and then

526
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:43,679
Speaker 1: Jackson Curio. All three you're getting kind of across the

527
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 1: board production like power speed, combo average. So those are

528
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,119
Speaker 1: players if you're going to try and double dip that,

529
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 1: I like to kind of like build my roster around,

530
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 1: because then you're getting two pocket aces and still a

531
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 1: really good foundation of contributors. So is there anyone putting

532
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 1: you on the spot kind of in the second round

533
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 1: tween er category that you would try to like sandwich

534
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 1: around pocketaces other than the guys I mentioned, or maybe

535
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Speaker 1: you disagree with the guys I mentioned.

536
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,159
Speaker 2: We'll see, No, I like the guys you mentioned. I

537
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,359
Speaker 2: think that that's I feel like that would be your

538
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 2: best like what there should be a name for it,

539
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 2: like your third pocket ace, but like just something in

540
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 2: along lines of those are such solid contributors. And again

541
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 2: they they give you across the board. And if you're

542
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 2: going to do this like that's what you need is

543
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 2: in that second round, whoever's going to give you the

544
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 2: most of the five hitting categories is the one to

545
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 2: go after. I think Cherio scares me just a smidge,

546
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 2: not a tongue, just a little bit. But Lindor and Duran,

547
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:41,880
Speaker 2: I'm I'm okay, I'm I would be fine with either

548
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,119
Speaker 2: one of them if that was your strategy that you

549
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 2: were using.

550
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the difference there we're talking about the you know,

551
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 1: five category contributors that the other players kind of in

552
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 1: that tier or vlat not you know, not getting any speed.

553
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,680
Speaker 1: Jordan Jordan Alvarez, whichever name is going by this year,

554
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,920
Speaker 1: Bryce Harper, Freddie Freeman. So still really really good players.

555
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 1: But if you're going pocket aces and pitching early, I

556
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,119
Speaker 1: prefer like have more of a you know, across the

557
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,439
Speaker 1: world contributor, Okay, anything else before I jump to the

558
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 1: next tier.

559
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 2: I would only say that for sure when you mentioned that,

560
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 2: I'm like, the one position I would absolutely not draft

561
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 2: in the second round is first place, So like, why

562
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 2: not if you're going to do that for the exact

563
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,199
Speaker 2: reason that, like, yeah, you've got power there, but I

564
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 2: feel like there's options later, So for sure that's my plan.

565
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good advice. That is why you're on the

566
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 1: show for sure. Oh let's talk little round targets, and

567
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 1: let's start with your first pitcher. Another intriguing one, I

568
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 1: would say.

569
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Speaker 2: So my pick here is Sandy al Contra, and I

570
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,679
Speaker 2: don't know if if I would have picked this prior

571
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,919
Speaker 2: to watching yesterday's live stream with Welsh and Joe, but

572
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:58,400
Speaker 2: they kind of gave monologues about how much we should

573
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 2: be kind of focusing on all contrac coming back, and

574
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,879
Speaker 2: that's sort of He's a very interesting case when you

575
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 2: talk about coming back from Tommy John surgery because a

576
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,640
Speaker 2: lot of times their velocity goes up and it takes

577
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 2: them a while to find their control. But he's such

578
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 2: a control picture. So it's like, I am curious to

579
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 2: see if he will be able to recover that maybe

580
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,880
Speaker 2: a little bit faster because that was a specialty beforehand

581
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:26,159
Speaker 2: and get the increased pilosity could just make him a

582
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,399
Speaker 2: steal and where he's currently going, which is an ADP

583
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 2: of one point fifty nine, So I feel like he's

584
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 2: worth the risk in the fourteenth round or in that

585
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 2: vicinity because if he hits and comes back fully, like

586
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 2: I mean, that's he could be an easy sp two.

587
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's the key there. I was kind of

588
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 1: doing the math where you're talking. I was like, his

589
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 1: ADP is outside the top one fifty, which is pretty

590
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 1: interesting for a picture of his caliber. Still terrifying that

591
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 1: it's coming off of an injury like that. Yeah. I

592
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:54,439
Speaker 1: don't really like to let Joe talk me into too

593
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 1: many things, so you know, you didn't really sell me there,

594
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 1: But if you and Welsh are also interested, then maybe

595
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 1: that bounces out Joe's opinion. No offense, Joe, I know

596
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 1: you're not going to watch that. It's okay, just kidding, everybody,

597
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 1: don't fire me. It's scary because of the injury, but

598
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 1: it's also, like you said, the price is kind of

599
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 1: accounting for that. So he's outside of the top one fifty.

600
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 1: He's like between like the thirteenth, fourteenth round. That's a

601
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,160
Speaker 1: really good time to take a gamble on a picture

602
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 1: like that. I wonder how many innings we're going to

603
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 1: get from him, but he's projected to like do over

604
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 1: one hundred fifty innings thrown over in fifteen innings, maybe

605
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 1: even touching like one eighty, which might be aggressive, but

606
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 1: he did throw you know, other than the the COVID

607
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 1: kind of you know, mini season twenty nineteen one hundred

608
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 1: ninety seven innings, twenty twenty one, two hundred and five,

609
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, twenty eight, twenty twenty three, one hundred

610
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 1: and eighty four. So he you know, granted he just

611
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 1: missed over a year, but he has had that workhorse

612
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 1: ability in the past. So getting up to one one

613
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy innings, which I think is probably what

614
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 1: you would need in order to recoup this value, especially

615
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 1: because he's not a high volume strikeout guy, although maybe

616
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 1: he is. Maybe he comes back with that Rookie of

617
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 1: the Arm, Rookie of the Year arm and he you

618
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 1: know he is a strikeout guy. Now, Yeah, really intriguing

619
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 1: name for those reasons, my pitcher. It's also a little

620
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: scary but also very exciting. Jared Jones, And there's no

621
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 1: Tommy John this year to talk about with Jared Jones.

622
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,199
Speaker 1: I don't know, I just feel like his ADP is

623
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:25,719
Speaker 1: way too low and he's a picture that if things

624
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,959
Speaker 1: go he's he's going right around the same area as

625
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,159
Speaker 1: all contract maybe around before him, around like that one

626
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 1: forty one fifty range. I really think he has ace upside.

627
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 1: His main thing is he needs to develop a third pitch.

628
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 1: But it's like even if his curveball or change up

629
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 1: are just like just not terrible, just a little bit

630
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 1: better than last year, he could be an ace and

631
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: like he's already like even without them, he's already still

632
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 1: really good. So if he can just you know, he's

633
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 1: kind of overshadowed by overshadowed by Paul Skens And I didn't

634
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 1: realize right now I picked two pirates pitchers, which, like

635
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 1: what a way to start off the advice too, pittures,

636
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 1: But I am really, really intrigued by Jared Jones because

637
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: even last year only throw one hundred and twenty one

638
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 1: and two thirds innings are right around four expected numbers

639
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 1: were a little bit better and there were some kind

640
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 1: of like hot and cold streaks there where I think,

641
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 1: if he can put it together, you could get a

642
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 1: really good return on investment around the one hundred and

643
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,959
Speaker 1: forty and fifty range. So what is your take on

644
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 1: Jared Jones this year?

645
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,239
Speaker 2: Pretty much exactly what your take is where when we

646
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 2: were talking about adding another pitch and we're both just.

647
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 1: Like, I mean, it doesn't have to be great.

648
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 2: The hitters just have to know you have it and

649
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 2: you know you can locate it. I feel like if

650
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 2: he gets that he can jump, he would jump a

651
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 2: tier pretty quickly. And again depending on what strategy you're using,

652
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 2: Like if you do the hit or heavy strategy and

653
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 2: wait six seven rounds before you take a picture, like

654
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 2: these are the guys that you're gonna want to get

655
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 2: and they're not necessarily safe floor, but they have that

656
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 2: ability and that potential to do what you skipped out

657
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 2: on by in the first six rounds. So from a

658
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 2: strategy perspective, if if you're gonna go hit or heavy

659
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 2: like with Jared Jones and al Contra and other pictures

660
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 2: in that range are the ones you're gonna kind of

661
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 2: want to go on a run with. I think, to

662
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 2: kind of show up your your rotation with just more

663
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 2: risk than what some people can tolerate. So no, I'm

664
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 2: a I'm a fan of Jones too.

665
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they're both high upside picks. And you know,

666
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 1: it's a good point you make that, you know, if

667
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 1: you're going hitter early, this is where you're gonna be

668
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 1: taking picture pictures, and it's you know, do you want

669
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 1: to take Jared Jones, Do you want to take a Contra?

670
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 1: Other names like I'd rather have them than like Ronaldo

671
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 1: Lopez or you know, not to be a hater like

672
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 1: I ended last year, but I'm not big Louis heal guy,

673
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 1: and he's going in the same range. Code SENGA A

674
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 1: lot of question marks there, very intriguing but also like

675
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 1: terrifying injury stuff there. Jack Flaherty probably rather have Jared

676
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 1: Jones and al Contra and those guys. Spencer Strider is

677
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 1: a name in that area I'd be very interested in,

678
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 1: assuming he starts. They're relatively soon, but also we'll see

679
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,719
Speaker 1: how it goes there. Yeah, I like you said, if

680
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: you go hitting early, this is where you'd be taking pictures.

681
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: But what about a hitter that you're trying to target

682
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: in the middle rounds and you have another interesting one.

683
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 2: I have another interesting one. So my hitter in the

684
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 2: middle rounds is of any Pascantino and mostly just because

685
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 2: what he did last year prior to the thumb injury,

686
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 2: and they said that the thumb should be fully healed,

687
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 2: so I can I can ride this out with the

688
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 2: Italian breakfast. I think he drove in ninety seven, like

689
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 2: because he bats behind Bobby Witt and Seal Pras And

690
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 2: as long as you're going to do that, like, he's

691
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 2: going to have people to bat in all day long.

692
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 2: The reason he's going so much later than the other guys,

693
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 2: I think is the power is just not expected to

694
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 2: be there as much, so you're kind of sacrificing home

695
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 2: runs from what should normally be a power position. Right,

696
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 2: But otherwise, I like, I mean, his average is in

697
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 2: the two sixties. He doesn't he doesn't. Is he the

698
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,080
Speaker 2: one that doesn't strike out like at all? Yeah? His

699
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 2: story out rate is twelve point eight percent. And his

700
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 2: whiff rate is fourteen point five percent, and both of

701
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 2: them are in the ninety six percentile in the league.

702
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,959
Speaker 2: So like, you're gonna he's gonna make kind of he's

703
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 2: gonna make contact. And if his babbitt says, like if

704
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 2: he's not stak snake bit by the babbitt and he's

705
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 2: going to give you a lot of power, he's going

706
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 2: to give you a lot of like doubles power. And

707
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 2: in the tenth or eleventh round, I'm fine with that.

708
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, And what you said was exactly what I was

709
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 1: going to push back on a little bit. Is that

710
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: the power, you know, we're we're still kind of like

711
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: projecting the power for him. He's still a pretty young hitter,

712
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 1: but it's like we're still kind of like waiting for

713
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: the power to continue to develop. And we saw it

714
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 1: last year a little bit. You know, still hit nineteen

715
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 1: home runs in one hundred and thirty one games, but

716
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 1: he had only hit nineteen home runs in his previous

717
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 1: previous two seasons, but still like right around the same

718
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: amount of games across those two seasons. So like they're

719
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 1: projecting him to like top twenty home runs, which would

720
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 1: be nice. Twenty five would be incredible. With all the

721
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 1: other counting stats that you mentioned. He's going outside the

722
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 1: top one hundred, right around like one ten, one twelve.

723
00:32:58,080 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: You know who else is going in that range? Very

724
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: intriguing player, Christian Yelich. Christian Yelich manage every podcast.

725
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 2: Do we have to do this?

726
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 1: Okay? But Christian Yelich is not the player I'm going

727
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 1: to talk about. I'm going to talk about a player

728
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: very different from Christian Yelwich. But this is very much

729
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: a I don't want to like abuse the term like

730
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 1: league winner, but this player has the potential where he's

731
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 1: being drafted to be a league winner. And it's Jason

732
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: Jason Dominguez j A. S. S O N Domingas of

733
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: the Yankees, who was projected to start for the Yankees

734
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 1: and they're in their outfield. He's got that very intriguing

735
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 1: short portra and red field. He's being drafted outside the

736
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 1: top one fifty, and I don't know, I just feel like, like, again,

737
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 1: we're projecting a lot here. It's a young hitter. You know,

738
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:54,959
Speaker 1: we were hoping he's going to stay up the whole year,

739
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: so there is I'm not saying this is not without risk,

740
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 1: but out thought. The top one fifty is a great chance,

741
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: a great time to roll the dice on a player

742
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 1: like this because there's twenty five to twenty five potential

743
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 1: here in that ballpark, and you know he can run

744
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: a little bit, and you know, if you can get him,

745
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 1: I mean like there's a there's a world where you're

746
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 1: getting Jackson Cherio production from Jason Domingez twelve rounds later,

747
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:24,800
Speaker 1: you know, like crazy.

748
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 2: That's my hesitation with Chario is literally it's Domingos. It's

749
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 2: it's the idea of they remind me of each other

750
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 2: in a lot of ways. And everyone's been talking about

751
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 2: Jason or Jasan since he was what like twelve, and

752
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 2: so it's really exciting to like have him finally be

753
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 2: up and have a position and you know, to get

754
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 2: some playing time every day because I think, yeah, I

755
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 2: think he could light the world on fire. So it's

756
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 2: I'm with you entirely on the intrigue of getting him

757
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 2: as late as is going perfect.

758
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: You agree with me, so you're correct. Let's jump over

759
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: to late round targets where it gets really fun and

760
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,919
Speaker 1: we can talk a little bit about like sleepers or

761
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 1: if you went really zero sp you're gonna need to

762
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:13,320
Speaker 1: uh probably grab some of these pictures, or if you

763
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 1: went like stars and scrubs in like a salary cap league.

764
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 1: You know, we're in the scrub charrector, we're in scrub areas.

765
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: So your picture is a favorite of mine, as many

766
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 1: know listen to the show. So why don't you talk

767
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: about the picture that I almost said by accident right now,

768
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: I almost said his name for you.

769
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 2: So I picked Jeffrey Springs, And to be perfectly honest,

770
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 2: I feel like there's a small part of me that

771
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 2: I felt like we missed out on so much in

772
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, like that he was going to be

773
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 2: so good and then just it was over after three games,

774
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:50,760
Speaker 2: and it's like I feel like I am I want

775
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 2: a second chance with that. He's two years out from

776
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 2: the Tommy John. He's thirty two, which is always surprising

777
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 2: to me because I feel like he should be way

778
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,320
Speaker 2: younger than that. He has a fastball changeup like combo

779
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 2: that I think is really it's really really effective, and

780
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 2: he threw in a slider as well last year, so

781
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 2: it's kind of like around that twenty second twenty third round,

782
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 2: I feel like he's again. I don't mean to I'm

783
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:20,439
Speaker 2: usually very injury risk averse, but like he's two years out,

784
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 2: I think it'll be worth seeing when he comes back.

785
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 2: With the scary part, of course, is that he's not

786
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 2: in Tampa anymore. He's going to be in Sacramento. But

787
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 2: we don't know for sure how that ballpark is going

788
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 2: to play, so to say that, you know one way

789
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,879
Speaker 2: or the other. But I think I just think he's

790
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 2: got stuff that would be worth having that late to

791
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 2: take a chance on.

792
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:42,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the one thing I was going to ask about.

793
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: It is the ballpark. The interesting thing is that, you know,

794
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: you hear like we're going to like a minor league

795
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 1: kind of ballpark, and everyone thinks of like Dunedin with

796
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 1: the Blue Jays, where they were just like home run

797
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: city all the time. It's kind of the same dimensions

798
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 1: as where they were playing in Oakland, not as much

799
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 1: foul territory. But we also don't know, like that's not

800
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: like a one to one comparison. We don't like the

801
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 1: ball might just travel, you know, really well there, which

802
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: is which is the thing that can happen in smaller

803
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 1: ballparks where you don't have the huge kind of like

804
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 1: stadium built around it, the ball might jump out of there,

805
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 1: so we don't really know, like you said, kind of

806
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,359
Speaker 1: how that's gonna play. But also like Tampa is not

807
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 1: like the best most pitcher friendly ballpark anyway, but they

808
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: just have such great pitching development that you kind of

809
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 1: overlook some of that stuff. But yeah, I like the

810
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: Jeffer Springs take. I was gonna say. The innings thing

811
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 1: is he's probably gonna get like one hundred and thirty

812
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 1: innings out of him, which is kind of the same

813
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 1: thing that for I have a much different pick. I'm

814
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 1: going to go with Kumar Rocker. It's just like the

815
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,720
Speaker 1: opposite of a safe pick. Like this is like another

816
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: one of those sexy dart throws, Like he came up

817
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: and he just like he looked really good last year

818
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 1: and really exciting, and he's supposed to start for the

819
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: Rangers this year. This is a late round dart throw,

820
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,320
Speaker 1: like see if you can catch lightning in a bottle,

821
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: especially if it's like a keeper league or something like that,

822
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: Like you know that we are in an auction salary

823
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,439
Speaker 1: cap keeper league where you could probab to get someone

824
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: like Kamar Rocker pretty cheap, and I hold onto him

825
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,720
Speaker 1: for a few seasons that could be really exciting. But again,

826
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: for him, like our Max, you're probably get a hundred

827
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 1: twenty innings at him, so that kind of caps some

828
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:12,800
Speaker 1: of the excitement, Like one hundred and thirty is probably

829
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 1: absolute Max, but we're probably talking like one ten, one twenty.

830
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 1: But any interest in Kamar Rocker.

831
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, He's also on my list without any question,

832
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 2: So for like kind of the same reasons that he

833
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 2: when he came up, I just loved, so I streamed

834
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 2: him kind of toward the end of the season, I think,

835
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 2: and he got me what I wanted, uh at a

836
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 2: very important time. So yeah, how much are they gonna

837
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 2: let him throw is a problem. But again you're this

838
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 2: is a late, late pick, Like you don't it's okay

839
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 2: to grab somebody who's only going to land in that

840
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 2: area of the one twenty one thirty because what you're

841
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 2: what are you asking for at that point? Like if

842
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 2: he gives you sp three four numbers in one hundred

843
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 2: and thirty innings, like congratulations you won the twenty third

844
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 2: round or wherever he is. So yeah, so I know

845
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 2: I'm a big fan.

846
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: I didn't even notice until right now that the consensus

847
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: ADP for Jeffery Springs two ninety six, Kramar Rocker to

848
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: ninety seven. So we pick two people, two players right

849
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: next I keep saying people instead of players, two players

850
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:12,879
Speaker 1: right next to each other. I mean they are people.

851
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 1: Say there are people. That's so good, But yeah, for

852
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 1: our purposes, they are players. So now a very deep pull.

853
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: Why don't you talk about a potential homer pick for you?

854
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: But an intriguing one nonetheless, So why don't we talk

855
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 1: about your hitter and your later round.

856
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 2: Hitter a one hundred percent homer pick and minus a

857
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 2: couple of things. My late round pick is Matt Shaw.

858
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,760
Speaker 2: The Cubs haven't had a third baseman since Chris Bryant,

859
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 2: and they brought in forty year old Justin Turner. And

860
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 2: there's no way he's going to play every day, and

861
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 2: there's I mean, there's no way that he's gonna play day.

862
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,439
Speaker 2: There's no way he's going to play well every day.

863
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 2: And so I feel like he's just kind of either

864
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 2: keeping the spot warm or he's there to sort of

865
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 2: like mentor him, because I just feel like I personally

866
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,320
Speaker 2: believe he should be the opening day third basement for Chicago.

867
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 2: If he's healthy and good to go. But I mean

868
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,479
Speaker 2: last year he hit twenty one home runs, stole thirty

869
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:07,359
Speaker 2: one bases, and everything that I've read about him is

870
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 2: kind of that. He has a strong hard hit percentage,

871
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 2: he maintained a high on base percentage, like he just

872
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,240
Speaker 2: kind of I feel like his floor for a rookie

873
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 2: would be higher than most other players. And again that's

874
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 2: if he has second base third base eligibility, because he's

875
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 2: played second base for the most part, Like why not

876
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 2: that late in the in the game. So again, he's

877
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 2: an one hundred percent flyer and ninety nine percent homer pick.

878
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, I kind of I saw his name in the

879
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 1: sheet and I was a little stunned. But then I

880
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 1: kind of, you know, I was like, all right, let

881
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 1: me research this a little bit. And I was like,

882
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: all right, I could see it, like, you know, just

883
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:46,839
Speaker 1: even looking like in a minor league number from last year,

884
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 1: like twenty thirty in one hundred and twenty games. I

885
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 1: can get down with that some positional versatility. Batt at

886
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: twenty four, has had a high batting average throughout his

887
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 1: minor league career. I'm like, all right, I can get

888
00:40:58,040 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 1: down with this. I can mess around this a little bit.

889
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 2: And again let me stress, there's no one else like

890
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 2: to play a third base in Chicago.

891
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think he's the resources projecting him to

892
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: start at third base, but lower in the lineup, but

893
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 1: you know he can work his way up. Very intriguing.

894
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:16,399
Speaker 1: Name who's going very late. I don't even know where

895
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,439
Speaker 1: he's going. Oh no, he's going even before the guys

896
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: we just mentioned. So he's right around the two fifty marks,

897
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:25,399
Speaker 1: still really late. Adp could rise as we get into

898
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: like spring training, especially if he's you know, hitting really

899
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 1: well like he's if he has a hot spring training,

900
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 1: we're going to see his name on a lot of

901
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:35,959
Speaker 1: sleeper lists come March, potentially even my sleeper list in March.

902
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: My my late run hitter is kind of a cop out.

903
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 1: It's a catcher. It's Ivon Herrera. But you know I

904
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 1: love late run catchers, you know, dollar catchers in salary

905
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 1: cap leagues. But like, if you're picking a catcher really late,

906
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: why not pick one that's going to hit three hundred

907
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 1: and probably get down hum rounds playing every day for

908
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 1: you know, a not great Cardinals team. He's finally he

909
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 1: should kind of like get a hundred starts as a

910
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 1: catcher or you know, duligible, you know, maybe like DH,

911
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 1: I don't know, probably fine, more catcher, but like if

912
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 1: you can get someone really late and for you know,

913
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 1: a dollar or where his ADP is is, I imagine really late.

914
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: It is two eighty five, So you're right in that

915
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 1: same range we're talking about. Give me a catcher that's

916
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 1: going to hit three hundred and you know I could

917
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 1: talk about to you, but I imagine you don't have

918
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 1: any strong feelings on Evander Era. But I do have

919
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 1: another late round pitcher that I knew you would want

920
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,800
Speaker 1: to talk about a little bit. What about Max Scherzer?

921
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: Can we do a late round Max ser any interest? Nothing?

922
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 2: Can we tell them what I did in the sheet

923
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 2: when you put his name in there.

924
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 1: He ken you wrote that he's old, Well.

925
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 2: You wrote Max Suser with a question mark, So I

926
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 2: answered your question that he's old. I don't have any

927
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 2: interest in him or Verlander, and that is I haven't

928
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 2: had interest in them for like the last couple of years. Yeah,

929
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 2: they could do great things. Were not great anymore, but

930
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 2: they could do above average things probably at this point

931
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 2: in their careers. I feel like at that point, I'm

932
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 2: gonna take someone with a much like steadier floor. I'd

933
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 2: rather have a steady floor hitter than Max Suers are,

934
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 2: So that's fair.

935
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: But if you're going completely zero SP or late round SP,

936
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 1: he's outside the top three hundred, like he's free. He's

937
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: free in drafts right now and he can. I mean,

938
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 1: he's not gonna win you your league, but I just

939
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 1: feel like Max Suers are someone who's like, just until

940
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 1: he had this run of like old man injuries, he

941
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 1: just had like a rubber arm and like defied logic

942
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 1: of how much he could throw. And I just feel like,

943
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 1: after you know, pretty much a semi year off, he's

944
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 1: with the Blue Jays now, not that they're like a

945
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 1: pitching powerhouse, but I don't know, there's just something about

946
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 1: a late round outside the top three hundred maxtures or

947
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 1: that I'm I'm in the league with a guy who,

948
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: like I call it the the Carlos Gonzales rule, where

949
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 1: every year he drafts like two or three just like

950
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 1: absolutely washed up veterans, and it's like it never works

951
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: out for him. It works one time frame with like

952
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 1: Carlos Gonzalez, but he does it like every year. So

953
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 1: it's like it's just like a running joke in our

954
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 1: league now, but like I guarantee you he drafts Max

955
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 1: shirts or in that league unless I draft him first,

956
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 1: because I might. I think we can get out of

957
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 1: there in that one. Anything else before I before I

958
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:17,359
Speaker 1: shut it down.

959
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 2: No, I mean I think that you know the depending

960
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 2: on what strategy you want to use, just it'll change

961
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 2: who you're looking at and what rounds. So as you

962
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 2: practice them, and you can practice them in Draft Wizard,

963
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 2: just kind of like figure out who are you drawing

964
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 2: to make a list of them, and then if you

965
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 2: find yourself doing one of the strategies and really kind

966
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 2: of staying with it, like then you'll have your your

967
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,439
Speaker 2: short list of people you're gonna target. And I think

968
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 2: that's really helpful on draft days so that you're not

969
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 2: kind of scurrying around trying to learn about some of

970
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 2: these players that you're gonna need suddenly because you waited

971
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 2: on starting pitching. So that's that's my biggest strategy is

972
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 2: to just that whoever's going like to fifty and beyond

973
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 2: know a little something about a lot of them, and

974
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:00,080
Speaker 2: that's where you're.

975
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great advice. I feel like I shouldn't even

976
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 1: close it out now. I should just you know, just

977
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 1: hit stop record on that. But I do have to

978
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 1: close us out. But I will say, as I mentioned

979
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: earlier in the show, jump into YouTube comments and let

980
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 1: us know what you think about the different strategies for

981
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 1: this year, the targets that we mentioned, anyone we missed,

982
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 1: talking about, anyone that you would want us to include,

983
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 1: And if you have any questions, throw them in there

984
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 1: and I'll either respond in YouTube or we'll talk about

985
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 1: on next week, because next week, presumably Worm, we'll be

986
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 1: back and we're supposed to talk about some guys who

987
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 1: are just impossible to rank this year. Some of the

988
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,720
Speaker 1: you know, Kelly and I participate in the rankings contest.

989
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 1: I think Worm might participate this year too, And you know,

990
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 1: some players are easier to rank than others, and some

991
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 1: people are going to kind of like make or break

992
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 1: seasons and accuracy contests in the rankings accuracy contests. So

993
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 1: on the next episode, we're going to break down some

994
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 1: of those toughest players, some of those players giving us headaches,

995
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 1: So let us know in the YouTube comments again, continuing

996
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 1: to play with the YouTube comments, who you'd like us

997
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 1: to talk about because I haven't created the list yet,

998
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 1: and so if you have any good players that you're

999
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 1: really struggling, throw them in there and maybe we'll talk

1000
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 1: about it next week. But that is all we have

1001
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 1: for today. For Kelly Kirby, I am Mike Mayor. This

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00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,440
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1003
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:17,120
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