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Speaker 1: Yeah, Welcome to another edition of Big Blue Kick Off

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Speaker 1: live right here on Giants dot Com as special Friday night,

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Speaker 1: Day two of the Draft Draft edition. I am John Schmilk.

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Speaker 1: He is Paul Latino on the phone number for you

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Speaker 1: is two oh one nine nine four five one three.

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Speaker 1: A busy show. We'll hear from se Quon Barkley's head

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Speaker 1: coach at Penn State. Later on in the show, Jonah

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Speaker 1: Tolls from n d T Scouting, and of course a

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Speaker 1: lot of your calls will take you through the two

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Speaker 1: rounds of the draft through the giants second third round pick.

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Speaker 1: They have two of them, and we'll try to get

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Speaker 1: all three picks live on the air as well. Paul,

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Speaker 1: how are you doing great? John, It's been a long week.

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Speaker 1: But where are at the finish line here? With the

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Speaker 1: weekend and of course two and three or tonight, rounds four,

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Speaker 1: five and six and seven will be tomorrow. We know

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Speaker 1: the Giants don't have any six or seventh round picks

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Speaker 1: at least at the moment. Certainly trades could occur and

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Speaker 1: maybe they will get back into those rounds, but as

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Speaker 1: of now they'll be done in the fifth round, and uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, they still got some more work to do.

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Speaker 1: Let's face it, If you hit big on the first

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Speaker 1: round and then don't collect other guys later who are

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Speaker 1: going to be valuable to your team, it's not a

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Speaker 1: successful draft. So these are very important picks. And I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure if you heard. The Giants already added a

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Speaker 1: player in the first night of the draft last night

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Speaker 1: on Thursday. They took Jon Barkley, the running back out

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Speaker 1: of Penn State. The highest of running back has been

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Speaker 1: drafted in quite a while since Trench richardson Cleveland in

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Speaker 1: two thousand twelve, which is also the second overall pick

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Speaker 1: in the draft. Correct, and Pott Sherman was the coach

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Speaker 1: there too, correct And by the way, he had fifty

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Speaker 1: receptions in that first year with Cleveland, So that might

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Speaker 1: be a preview of what might happen with sake Kwon Barkley,

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Speaker 1: but obviously a big piece of this Giant's puzzle. Another

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Speaker 1: weapon on offense, Paul. But as we've talked about, in

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Speaker 1: order for running back to be successful, you have to

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Speaker 1: have a good offensive line in front of you, and

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Speaker 1: that kind of leads to where the Giants are at

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Speaker 1: pick thirty four tonight. Only one team will pick before

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Speaker 1: the Giants at thirty three. That's the Cleveland Browns. So

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Speaker 1: is that what you're talking here? Are you looking at

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Speaker 1: an offensive lineman? Well, let's face it, John, We've often

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Speaker 1: talked about where does value meet need on the board,

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Speaker 1: and then in this case, I think it does. You

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Speaker 1: look at the guys that that are still there, guys

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Speaker 1: are just itching to pick those guys off now at

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Speaker 1: the top of the second round, which is why the

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns will probably be taken a whole bunch of

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Speaker 1: phone calls, because much like when the Giants traded up

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Speaker 1: first round a couple of years ago, there's activity there.

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Speaker 1: Now you're talking about guys like Daniels the center from Iowa,

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Speaker 1: from you Chap, my personal favorite, who has no health

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Speaker 1: issues but is still on the board. Level of competition

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Speaker 1: certainly one of the reasons why he might have dropped

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Speaker 1: then you look at another guy, um like Conna Williams

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Speaker 1: People thought he'd be a first rounder. He could play tackle,

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Speaker 1: he could play guard, but the medical file drops him

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Speaker 1: down a few spots, and so every team has to decide, John,

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Speaker 1: where are they going to rank? You know, the conditions.

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Speaker 1: Are they gonna put medical high? Are they gonna put

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Speaker 1: um uh interaction high? Are they're gonna put locker room

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Speaker 1: demeanor high? Are they gonna put game film high? What

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Speaker 1: of the player. Will her Nandez is a clean player,

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Speaker 1: and he's a good player. I would take him if

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Speaker 1: second round. Of course, he's got to be there first

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Speaker 1: now exactly, and the Browns pick ahead of the Giants.

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Speaker 1: The Browns do not need a guard. They have Zeisler

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Speaker 1: you wouldn't think they need to add a guard. However,

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Speaker 1: Adam Schefter did that there is a lot of action here,

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Speaker 1: always a chance that the Browns, who from what we understand,

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Speaker 1: the same thing at thirty three overall tonight if another

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Speaker 1: team values someone like well Hernandez. However, I want to

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Speaker 1: make sure we touch on our bases here. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: Another position that teams tend to value an awful lot,

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Speaker 1: draft class is pass rusher. And there's really only one

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Speaker 1: premium pass rusher left on the board, and that's Harold Landry,

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Speaker 1: the defensive end that of Boston College coming into the

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Speaker 1: year before they played the seventeen college season people thought

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Speaker 1: he might have be a top five pick. He had

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Speaker 1: double digit sacks last year, seven force fumble, sixteen and

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Speaker 1: simply based on position, value and skill, the highest graded

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Speaker 1: and I wouldn't be surprised the teams are talking to

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Speaker 1: the Browns that might want to trade up for Howld

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Speaker 1: Landry as well. I know the Giants want him. Who knows.

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's any doubt that there are teams

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Speaker 1: looking at him right now because a lot of folks

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Speaker 1: was healthy. He is an incredibly dangerous edge rusher now

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Speaker 1: because of the ankle injury. Also because he did not

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Speaker 1: a transition that folks are gonn want to talk about

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Speaker 1: I think he's the only one of the pass rushers

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Speaker 1: position where there is terrific value is at cornerback. Yes,

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Speaker 1: and that's that's the other three guys that I want

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Speaker 1: to bring up. Three very good players sitting on the board.

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Speaker 1: At the cornerback position. You have Isaiah Oliver, a long

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Speaker 1: Another guy that fits a similar profile is Carlton Davis

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Speaker 1: we have found out is as teams look for guys

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Speaker 1: both know John, when these rookies get here into the NFL,

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Speaker 1: Do you think he's a pass rusher? His production at

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Speaker 1: team might roll the dice in a guy like Lorenzo Carter.

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Speaker 1: John I projected him as an outside linebacker in a

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Speaker 1: three four, and quite frankly, there are those who think

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Speaker 1: the tools to rush the passer. But as you said,

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Speaker 1: the speed to play will Oh, there's no doubt. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: He's got the ability to play strong side, which is

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Speaker 1: really cool if you're gonna have a versatile scheme like

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Speaker 1: Now the question becomes is it too high at thirty four?

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Speaker 1: Does the value meet need with him? Most people think

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Speaker 1: didn't see anybody say he should be a first round pick,

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Speaker 1: so that tends to make you believe he might drop further.

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Speaker 1: only because I've gotten questions about it. I know a

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Speaker 1: lot of Giant fans wanted the Giants to take a

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Speaker 1: took se Kwan Barkley. But now Giant fans are asking, well,

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Speaker 1: do we wanna you know, hedge our bets as a

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Speaker 1: for a backup to Eli Manning to compete with Davis

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Speaker 1: Webb there's only two quarterbacks on the roster presently. Uh.

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Speaker 1: To me, Paul, the only guy at the top of

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Speaker 1: the second round I would consider is probably Mason Rudolph

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Speaker 1: out of out of Oklahoma, UM Oklahoma state part of me,

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Speaker 1: but I think you can get a guy like Mike

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Speaker 1: White later on Kyle Loletta. They might be later on

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Speaker 1: way gave Dave Gentleman spoken as press conference last night,

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Speaker 1: if they get a pick. I just want him traded

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00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,000
Speaker 1: off the two. Well, Charlie, here's the trick though. If

428
00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:50,639
Speaker 1: they don't get a picked back, Roger Goodell is not

429
00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:52,719
Speaker 1: going to announce the trade on the podium, so you

430
00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:54,679
Speaker 1: can't exactly have it that way, you know what I mean?

431
00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,959
Speaker 1: It could be a pick in two thousand five conditional

432
00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,919
Speaker 1: seventh rounder. That will be fine with me, you know

433
00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,640
Speaker 1: that will be that would make my day, make my night,

434
00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:09,080
Speaker 1: and better, isn't it better if you discussed the players

435
00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,199
Speaker 1: you'd like to get on the team as opposed to

436
00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,080
Speaker 1: guys you'd want to get rid of what you make

437
00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:17,320
Speaker 1: your night. Come to that. I think this thirty four pick,

438
00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,760
Speaker 1: I mean I would really I think we need a tackle,

439
00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:26,199
Speaker 1: not the guard. But it depends on if gentlemen and

440
00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,159
Speaker 1: company think we can get a tackle later and we

441
00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,359
Speaker 1: can get the guard now, or we there's not a

442
00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:35,040
Speaker 1: lot of tackles later, so we should take the tackle

443
00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:38,440
Speaker 1: now and get the guard later. Now. I would probably

444
00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,280
Speaker 1: go for the tackle. I think the Browns though, might

445
00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,920
Speaker 1: take Connor Williams, which is the guy I'm thinking about,

446
00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,159
Speaker 1: but they also might go for Landry since they passed

447
00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,639
Speaker 1: on Chub, which I can't understand how the hell they

448
00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:53,239
Speaker 1: ever did that passing on Chubb, So they need they

449
00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,680
Speaker 1: still need a pass rusher to go along with Garrett,

450
00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,720
Speaker 1: so I think Landry might be in play there or

451
00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:02,000
Speaker 1: are left tackle because they need a left tackle. So

452
00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:06,399
Speaker 1: I'm hoping that they don't take corners and that we

453
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,040
Speaker 1: can weetn Connor Williams and we can take him, because

454
00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,399
Speaker 1: I think we really need to tackle first, because I

455
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,439
Speaker 1: think they're better guards that we can get in the

456
00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,680
Speaker 1: third round. Even though I love Hernandez and I think

457
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,360
Speaker 1: he would be great, I just really feel we need

458
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,680
Speaker 1: a right tackle. So I think Charlie the the medical

459
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,919
Speaker 1: file does not bother you at all with him. He

460
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,280
Speaker 1: said he had three knee injuries within the last year

461
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,960
Speaker 1: and a half. That doesn't bother you. Yeah it does,

462
00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,400
Speaker 1: it does a little bit. I mean. And by the way,

463
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:35,879
Speaker 1: go ahead by actually let me hold on here. By

464
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,680
Speaker 1: the way, many scouts think Connor Williams is going to

465
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,040
Speaker 1: be a better guard than he is a tackle, because

466
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,919
Speaker 1: he's actually a shade under three hundred pounds. He is

467
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 1: a finesse technique tackle, and quite honestly, there are those

468
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 1: who think he's gonna have to bulk up and add

469
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 1: power and strength and some girth because he's not necessarily

470
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,639
Speaker 1: a pro ready tackle. These are things you got to

471
00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:01,080
Speaker 1: be able to chew on before you make that pick. Okay, Paul,

472
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 1: who do you think is the best tackle? And if

473
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 1: we could pick at thirty four, who do you think

474
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 1: is the best tackle left? I think Connor Williams. I

475
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:17,119
Speaker 1: think Williams because if his file was not damaged, he

476
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 1: would be the guy. You could probably make a case

477
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:24,199
Speaker 1: for Crosby as the next best tackle on the board.

478
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:28,240
Speaker 1: But I don't necessarily think he's worth pick number thirty four.

479
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,680
Speaker 1: But he's got a clean file. Charlie, that doesn't mean something.

480
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 1: I actually think, Charlie, you have a shot to get

481
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,160
Speaker 1: and one of the tackles I like in this draft.

482
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,200
Speaker 1: And I've said it before, I'm higher on Jamaco Jones

483
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,719
Speaker 1: from Ohio State more than some other people are. I

484
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:43,400
Speaker 1: think he could step in and be a day one

485
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,359
Speaker 1: right tackle starter for you. You know, he's not gonna

486
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,160
Speaker 1: be an all pro, but I think he'll step into

487
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 1: a solid job. He's from a big program, he goes

488
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 1: against big competition, and he's a big man and he's

489
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 1: very good in past protection. I think if you and

490
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,199
Speaker 1: there's a chance he's gonna be there at the top

491
00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:58,919
Speaker 1: round three. I can't guarantee it to you, but I

492
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 1: think there's a chance that I think would be a

493
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,399
Speaker 1: good third round tackle if you go guard at the

494
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 1: top around and you know, if if you, if you

495
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,639
Speaker 1: want to be a little bit more gambling, because his

496
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 1: tape was a little bit inconsistent Martine's Rankin is also

497
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 1: another guy who you could take who is a tackle,

498
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 1: and you could certainly make an argument that you in

499
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,159
Speaker 1: round two or round three, he'd be a guy in

500
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 1: that vicinity. All right, that makes sense, you know, as

501
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:24,960
Speaker 1: long as I think we should go definitely in the

502
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 1: next two picks though guard, tackle or tackle guard, I

503
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 1: don't care which way it is, whoever they think is

504
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:34,400
Speaker 1: the best player to take at that time. And then

505
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 1: after that I think we should go linebacker or the

506
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,159
Speaker 1: rusher or cornerback, and and that's how we should finish

507
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,399
Speaker 1: it out. But uh, you know, I'm you know, the

508
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,359
Speaker 1: Browns need to tackle, so maybe we'll trade Towers to

509
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 1: the brown You know what, I don't necessarily disagree with

510
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 1: your your assessment of positions of need. I don't think

511
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 1: there's much doubt that the Giants could use an offensive lineman,

512
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 1: they could use a cornerback, they could use a linebacker,

513
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,119
Speaker 1: and they could use a defensive end or or a

514
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 1: hatch rusher of some type. I don't think anybody would

515
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 1: disagree with those four positions. Now, the Giants have three

516
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,159
Speaker 1: picks tonight, and then of course tomorrow they've got a

517
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 1: fourth and a fifth. So I don't necessarily know that

518
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 1: it's got to be done in a certain order, except

519
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,920
Speaker 1: the value board, to me, is gonna dictate that more

520
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 1: than the position. And and I'm not gonna sit here

521
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 1: and say it's got to be the tackle now, or

522
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 1: the linebacker now, or the cornerback now. I'm gonna say,

523
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 1: where does the value board meet the need? And that's

524
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 1: how I'm gonna let it dictate. And I think it's

525
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 1: old line in cornerback at the top a round two

526
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 1: and yeah, And I think for me, if you're just

527
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 1: gonna go old line, Hernandez is the best value at

528
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 1: this spot. And I'll say this too, if if depending

529
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 1: on the health, I don't know what the medicals say.

530
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 1: If Landry is okay for you medically, he's good value

531
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,440
Speaker 1: here too. Oh, there's no doubt. But again the medical

532
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,440
Speaker 1: is an issue that has scared a lot of teams

533
00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 1: away because otherwise he wouldn't have dropped around too. How

534
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 1: about Hernandez at thirty four and then the top of

535
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 1: the third round, we are are the second pick in

536
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 1: the third round, we take a Lando Brown. I think

537
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 1: of him, you know what. I worry about his athletic testing.

538
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 1: But if you can get him in the third round,

539
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 1: I like Jamarco Jones better than him, to be honest

540
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 1: with you. But if he's the best tackle left, and

541
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 1: I have to know who else is on the board,

542
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 1: obviously i'd like Crosby if he drops that fall, I agree,

543
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,680
Speaker 1: I like him better than I like Orlando Brown as well.

544
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,360
Speaker 1: But if Brown's sitting there, do I think he's a

545
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: bad value pick in the third round. I don't think

546
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 1: it's a bad value. I don't know if it's great though, either.

547
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 1: Good news, Charlie. At least there are people in the

548
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 1: on the offensive line who are in the pool and

549
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 1: are gonna be looked at over the course of the

550
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 1: next several picks. I know that's what we need. And

551
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 1: now we got Barkley and we have our quarterback for

552
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 1: the next two years at least. And I'm excited and uh,

553
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 1: we just need, uh you know, something on defense a

554
00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 1: little bit. Another cornerback would be helpful. And um, I

555
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:05,400
Speaker 1: can't wait. We'll talk to you all later. Great, Thank you, Charlie,

556
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 1: appreciate it. To five one, three, or about a minute

557
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 1: away from the draft starting, we'll track over the Browns pick,

558
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,400
Speaker 1: or if there's a trade, we'll let you know. Then

559
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 1: we'll get the Giants on the clock and we'll see

560
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 1: what they're going to do with their draft pick. The

561
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,919
Speaker 1: draft of course taking place down in Dallas or Fort Worth.

562
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 1: One more call Bradley, New Jersey, notal. I think it's

563
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 1: been holding since the start of the show, and make

564
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 1: sure I get him in before we start getting into

565
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 1: the pick. Bradley, what's going on? How are you? Hey? John?

566
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,400
Speaker 1: Hey Paul, it's thanks so much thing the call, Yeah,

567
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: just to pick up with the other call is I

568
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 1: definitely think Hernandez is the guy that take I don't

569
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 1: think if you were was an offensive tackle, the Browns

570
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 1: were definitely take him because Joe Tom is obviously you

571
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:51,400
Speaker 1: know you were tired after the season was over. So

572
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 1: with that being said, I think regarding if for a

573
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: team trays up to get to thirty three to the

574
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 1: brown spot. I definitely think he's a US pick for

575
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 1: the Giants. And four now, Sean Coleman, their third round

576
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,919
Speaker 1: pick from two thousand sixteen, is there starting left tackle

577
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,400
Speaker 1: as we speak here in the off season, and over

578
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 1: at right tackle. They got Chris Hubbard, who they signed

579
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 1: as a free agent from the Pittsburgh Steelers, So both

580
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 1: of those guys are on the young side of the ledger.

581
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily know. You know, they want Hubbard because

582
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,640
Speaker 1: they signed him to some decent money, so he's gonna

583
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 1: be starting, there's no doubt about that. I don't know

584
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 1: how they feel about Coleman, I really don't. I don't

585
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 1: know how they feel about his future. I don't know

586
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 1: how they feel about him right now, so that may

587
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 1: come into play as to whether or not they're desperate

588
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 1: to draft a left tackle now. The other thing I

589
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 1: have to tell you is that they also could move

590
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 1: Joel Patonio, who is a very versatile player who many

591
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 1: people said that when he came out of school he

592
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 1: might be able to play tackle, guard, or center. Maybe

593
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: they say Hernandez is so good they take Hernandez and

594
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 1: they move Pretonio out to tackle. I mean, you gotta

595
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 1: think about these things. Sure, and and but Tonio Bally

596
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 1: was one of the guys that they thought could swing

597
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 1: between guard and tackle when he got drafted. I don't

598
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 1: know what they think from now though. That's the point.

599
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: So I don't know that. I don't know that it's

600
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: a safe bet that her end is would be there

601
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 1: for the Giants. I just don't know that. I don't know. Yeah, yeah,

602
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 1: we don't know yet. But as far as there's two

603
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 1: third round picks, and I I think, uh, they're gonna

604
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: go defense just to buff up, because now they're gonna

605
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: being a three four into of a traditional four three

606
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,479
Speaker 1: that they've been the last like you know, uh decade, seems.

607
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: I think they'll take I want to say, a linebacker

608
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 1: or d ND and maybe in a corner. But that's

609
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 1: as far as I think they'll do in the third

610
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 1: round with the sixty six and sixty nine pick in

611
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,239
Speaker 1: the draft. Hey, look, and I always say this, when

612
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 1: you get down to the third round, I get picking

613
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 1: for need, but at that point there's a finite number

614
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 1: of players left on the board that you think can

615
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 1: be a starter. I'm not picking a guy that I'm

616
00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 1: not sure it can be a starter at a position

617
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 1: of need. If I can get a player, then I'm

618
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 1: pretty darn sure can be a starter, even if it's

619
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 1: not a need spot. So at that point you really

620
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 1: have to you really have to let your board dictate

621
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 1: what you do. Yeah, at the very minimum, that guy

622
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 1: has to be a heavy rotational player. You've got to

623
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 1: get a lot of snaps out of that guy in

624
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 1: the third round, actual top of the third round in

625
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 1: this case, two third round picks, both at the top

626
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 1: of the third Yeah. And you know, as far as

627
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: just about yesterday when the Giants at Barkley, I was

628
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 1: saying with my dad, and you know the last time

629
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 1: you remember, and you know, Giants big number two and

630
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 1: they draft they got, but they have a belt taste.

631
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 1: So me, this is my first son seeing the Giants

632
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 1: strap number two. I hope this guy, you know, he

633
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 1: doesn't something special for the Giants the next several years

634
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: to come. So welcome to the Giants, and I hope

635
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 1: they do work. I appreciate thanks for the call, Bradley.

636
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 1: All Right, we got one more call on the line. Uh, Now,

637
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 1: let's try to get him in before we get to

638
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 1: the Browns making their pick here at seven o'clock. And

639
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 1: it looks like they are on the clock officially, or

640
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: they not put them on the clock yet. It looks

641
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 1: like they're about to put him on the clock. They're

642
00:30:58,360 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: not on the clock yet. They're doing a little month

643
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: ash room yesterday. So let's get Devon in New Jersey.

644
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 1: He's up next. What's up, Devin? What's up? You know? Uh?

645
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 1: I think Santon Barkley is like, I think he'll be

646
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: pretty good for ey because he den Giants fans and

647
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 1: you know, it's about time that we have somebody that's gonna,

648
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 1: you know, protect Uli because for the longest time we

649
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 1: haven't had anybody block an Eui. So I think he's

650
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 1: pretty I think it's gonna be pretty good for us.

651
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: I agree, he Devin, do me a favorite when you call,

652
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: and you gotta make sure you turn the volume down

653
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 1: on your computer or your phone and listen through the phone,

654
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 1: otherwise we get a bad echo on the air. I agree,

655
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: and look and and that's the part of the budding

656
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: back thing. I think Santon Barkley is like the best

657
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 1: for you. I because yeah, we heard you. We Uh,

658
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: we haven't had anybody blocking UI for like the longest time,

659
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 1: so it's a good position. And uh, what do you

660
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 1: guys think about her name? Does like I think he

661
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,719
Speaker 1: should be part of the Giants too, Like he seems

662
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: he seems like he'll be pretty Yeah, hey, look, Devin

663
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 1: and Devin, thanks to the call. We appreciate it. And

664
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people don't go deep in

665
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 1: the draft with stuff like this, So I think a

666
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: lot of people say frankly or learning about what Hernandez

667
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 1: for the first time, I think that's true. But I

668
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 1: can tell you for the last two months, for those

669
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 1: of you that are loyal listeners and watchers of the

670
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: program here, um, I wouldn't say it's been a bull's

671
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 1: I because quite frankly, we weren't sure he was gonna

672
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: make it out of the first round. But since I

673
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 1: was in Mobile for the Senior Bowl and I texted Paul,

674
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 1: I found the guy that you're gonna fall in love

675
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 1: within the next two months. He was right. We've had

676
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 1: her Nandez circled in red marker on our lists, in

677
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 1: our minds, and we've thought that he could be a

678
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 1: great option for the Giants. You know, he's a big guy.

679
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 1: He's got the neck role, he's built like a tank.

680
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: You know, we'll bring outitude. He's just when you picture

681
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: the mental image of what you think Dave Gentleman thinks

682
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 1: that hog Molly is supposed to be, it's Will Hernandez.

683
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: And when I watched him in mobile the Senior Bowl,

684
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: he was man handling people, not just beating them in

685
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: drills tossing them around. He was I'm not gonna say

686
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 1: the man amongst boys, because Nathan Shepherd at a Fort

687
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: Hayes actually beat him a couple of times during the week,

688
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 1: but he was just so physical and imposing, and you

689
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 1: stand near him and you're like, that's an NFL offensive one.

690
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 1: You know, John will testify to this. When we left

691
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 1: the combine in Indianapolis, I was kind of down, and

692
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 1: I remember kind of thinking of myself, I guess that's

693
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: not gonna happen. And and I remember you saying, Paul Dots,

694
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: what's up. Like everybody's telling us here what the combine.

695
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 1: Will Hernandez is sneaking into the bottom of the first round.

696
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: They're not going to get him at thirty four. I

697
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: was really bummed. And now we and Behold, we're at

698
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 1: thirty three and Hernandez is still on the board. Hey, Paul, Look,

699
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: we had our list of and by the way, that's

700
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 1: because he tested well at the Combine. He tested very

701
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: very well at the Combine, which had him shooting up

702
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: the charts into the mid twenties. See. And I think

703
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 1: the number of offensive lineman that win the first round

704
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: was about where we thought it was gonna be. You

705
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: and Nelson McGlinchey, Colton Miller, rag Now, Billy Price, Isaiah Win.

706
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,359
Speaker 1: So there were six offensive linemen that win the first round.

707
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 1: I think that's where we thought it was gonna be.

708
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,879
Speaker 1: But here's the two we weren't sure, but we thought

709
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 1: maybe Colton Miller might not be a first round pick.

710
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 1: Recently we kind of thought he would be. But I

711
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 1: think we were both taken a little bit by surprise

712
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,720
Speaker 1: that both Billy Price and Frank ragg Now were taken

713
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 1: before Will Hernandez and James Daniels. I think we believed

714
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 1: those two rag Now on Price would be in the

715
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: second round and her Nandez and Daniels would be in

716
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,959
Speaker 1: the first round. That's not how it went down, which

717
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 1: is why I think her Nandez is sitting there at

718
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 1: thirty four. The offensive lineman went like we thought there

719
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 1: was a run between twenty and thirty, just like we

720
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,399
Speaker 1: predicted different guys than we thought went off the board. Though. Yeah,

721
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 1: I think Jeams decided that the two centers, because center

722
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,320
Speaker 1: is so important and making the line calls and helping

723
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 1: out with your past protection, they decided that that became

724
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: a much more important quantity or or or or piece

725
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 1: of the puzzle than maybe others of us did. I

726
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 1: think the other thing we should tell you is that

727
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 1: the Browns around the clock with less than six minutes

728
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,359
Speaker 1: to go to make the first pick number thirty three

729
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: overall before the Giants get ready to go. And I

730
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 1: think the other thing too is that because Price had

731
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 1: heard his pick lifting weights at the combine a partially surgery,

732
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 1: a lot of folks thought we heard from from one

733
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 1: of the experts the other day they said, not June,

734
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 1: he's probably not gonna be ready to maybe even August.

735
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,359
Speaker 1: But his doctor put out a note and to all

736
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 1: the NFL teams. I think it was either early in

737
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: the week or last week that he will be ready

738
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 1: full goal for training camp helped him. That turned him

739
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,280
Speaker 1: into a basketball was he bouncing down into the second

740
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 1: round or was he gonna bounce back up again? And

741
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 1: apparently he bounced back up again because he was gone

742
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 1: last night. All right, five minutes to go before the

743
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: Browns make their selection than the Giants are on the

744
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 1: clock at thirty four. Overall, we just talked a lot

745
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 1: about well, Hernandez, let's briefly go through the other guys

746
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: we think could be in the mix for the Giants.

747
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 1: I know we've talked about him, but people might be

748
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 1: joining the show a little bit late, so we talked

749
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: about Hernandez. Another offensive lineman James Daniels, the center guard

750
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 1: out of Iowa. Of course, he played for Kirk for

751
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: Ins and Iowa a pro system. He's a guy that

752
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: knows how to play the sport. They coach up their

753
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 1: offensive lineman there extremely well. But as we mentioned Paul,

754
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: he did have knee surgery in twenty sixteen, and based

755
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: on some reports out there today, that seems to have

756
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 1: raised a bit of a red flag with some teams

757
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: and might be one of the reasons he's dropping. But

758
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 1: he's a really smart player, he's athletic, he'd be great

759
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: in his own blocking scheme. The question is the medical

760
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: which we as we've said many times on the show,

761
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 1: we talked about the player on tape, what he does

762
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 1: as a player, we just don't have that medical information

763
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 1: and we don't like to speculate on it. No, and

764
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: quite frankly, I asked a retired scout who is now

765
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: working for sports radio in Chicago, Uh of that very question, John,

766
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 1: how are teams now waiting the medical file on these players?

767
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 1: Always have knocked them down when they have found a

768
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 1: yellow flag or a red flag, But it just seems

769
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: to me that more and more guys are getting knocked

770
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 1: down further. And maybe that's because, quite honestly, you can't

771
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 1: take as many risks these days because people don't have patience.

772
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: They want instant gratification with guys. And when guys are

773
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: banged up and nicked up, you know what, they missed

774
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 1: time at training camp, They missed time at practice, and

775
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, the coach says, well, you know what,

776
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: he hasn't gotten enough reps in he's not ready to

777
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: play in the game, So now he doesn't get a

778
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 1: jersey on Sunday, and all of a sudden, before you

779
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: know it, he's inactive for the first way six weeks

780
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 1: of the season. And it's not a wasted pick, but

781
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: it's a delayed production on a pick, and that gets

782
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 1: people and organizations very nervous. Three and a half minutes

783
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 1: to go, the Browns are on the clock. Let's go

784
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 1: to the third offensive lineman we think could be in

785
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 1: the mix. And again, this is a guy that suffered

786
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,280
Speaker 1: in knee injury in the middle of the seventeen season,

787
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 1: did not have any surgery, came back, played the final

788
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 1: two games and played well. It's Connor Williams, offensive tackle

789
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 1: out of Texas. You can also move into guard. He's

790
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: a player that's very athletic. Heading into this draft uh season,

791
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 1: or heading into the seventeen college season, excuse me. He

792
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 1: was considered the top tackle in the class. He had

793
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 1: a great sixteen. His twenty seventeen tape wasn't nearly as good. Again,

794
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: it's a medical issue. But at full strength Connor Williams,

795
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 1: if you're getting the twenty sixteen Connor Williams, he's the

796
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 1: and that's healthy. He's a guy that can step in

797
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 1: and probably start fewing year one. Well. People like him

798
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: because he has played some left tackle at a big

799
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 1: program at Texas. Obviously, he's got versatility where a lot

800
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 1: of folks think he's gonna move inside the guard in

801
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 1: the NFL. And by the way, it looks like the

802
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 1: Browns are not trading their pick because the pick is

803
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 1: in Well, that should be good news for some folks

804
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: who thought that another team would come in and swoop

805
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 1: that pick away from Cleveland and perhaps take the guy

806
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 1: the Giants want. Ian Rapp reports making some type of

807
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 1: report here that we can't hear, so we'll let you

808
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 1: know when we hear what he's saying. In any event, Uh,

809
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,879
Speaker 1: the point about Williams is if you really like his versatility,

810
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 1: you like his techniqueak you like the fact that he's

811
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: played left tackle, those are all good reasons to want

812
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: to pick him. But again, why would you not want

813
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,919
Speaker 1: to pick him? A bit undersized, a little bit under

814
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 1: three hundred pounds, and also the medical as we alluded to.

815
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 1: But certainly he's gonna be a viable second round pick

816
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 1: for somebody, whether or not it's up here at the

817
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 1: top of the round or later on in the round.

818
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,439
Speaker 1: You have to believe he's not getting a Round three John,

819
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: no question about it. And I will point out that

820
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 1: as the NFL has done in the past. They're gonna

821
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: have players announced their picks in the second round the Giants,

822
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 1: and Justin Tuck has just tweeted out a picture of

823
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 1: him holding the card that's not filled that yet because

824
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 1: Giants haven't put their picket. I was gonna say, wait

825
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 1: a minute for breaking the Giants pick on video on

826
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: Twitter before the pick is in, though, because he does

827
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:47,800
Speaker 1: not know they're picking up, but he will be announcing,

828
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 1: well what the pick is going to be. You can't

829
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 1: pick himself, by the way, So even though they need

830
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 1: a pass rush here, Tuck's not coming back now again.

831
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 1: The Browns pick is in at thirty third overall, the

832
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 1: Giants four overall. We'll see what ends up happening. We

833
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 1: talked about the three offensive linement very quickly, Paul. We're

834
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 1: gonna have somebody head to the podiums anounced to pick momentarily.

835
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,879
Speaker 1: We'll have that for you here on Big Blue Kickoff Live,

836
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 1: Um Cornerback. Three pretty good players Carlton Davis, Joshua Jackson,

837
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,280
Speaker 1: and Isaiah Oliver. Three guys that are available. Harold Landry

838
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: to me, is the wild card, the best pass rusher left.

839
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: Who's the smallest, smaller guy. People worry about him stopping

840
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 1: the run, but he can get after the quarterback, another

841
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 1: guy with an injury concern and and to me, those

842
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 1: are the main culprits in my eyes, that are in

843
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,879
Speaker 1: the mix here for the Giants at their thirty fourth

844
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 1: overall pick in this in the second round, Yeah, I

845
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,359
Speaker 1: would think so. I also think that, you know, if

846
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 1: you're not the Giants, you have to say this because

847
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 1: maybe Cleveland's thinking about this. There are a couple of

848
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 1: wide receivers who were fringe first round, early second round,

849
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 1: guys who maybe either the target of the Browns or

850
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 1: a team that was trying to trade up that obviously

851
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,959
Speaker 1: didn't get to trade up. Christian Kirk, d d Chart,

852
00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 1: Courtland Sutton. Three wide receivers who were resumed to be

853
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 1: end of the first round, early second round. They were

854
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 1: in the neighborhood where we are right now. Maybe the

855
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 1: Browns wanted running back to go with Carlos Hide and

856
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 1: Darius Guys, Ronald Jones, Nick Chubb, a bunch of guys

857
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 1: that are available. Somebody tweeted earlier report that they thought,

858
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 1: I think it was schefter that Nick Chubb will be

859
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 1: the first running back off the board and round number two.

860
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,240
Speaker 1: There were some whispers that maybe some off the field

861
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:27,240
Speaker 1: stuff might be um influence Darius Guys dropping in the draft.

862
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 1: We can't spa again, that's one of the things that

863
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 1: we can't speak to. We don't have that information. But

864
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 1: most people thought he might be the second running back

865
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 1: off the board, and obviously that was not the case

866
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: with Rashad Penny going at the end of round one

867
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 1: to the Seattle Seahawks. If Cleveland's taking a running back,

868
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 1: they've got the right guy with the card in hand.

869
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 1: It is Hall of Fame running back Jim Brown, who

870
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 1: was going to announce the pick at the podium momentarily. So, uh,

871
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,439
Speaker 1: we will see if Cleveland decides they need to beef

872
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 1: up the running game. There weren't even some people who

873
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 1: thought that they might take Blankly in the first round

874
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 1: with either pick number one or pick number four. So

875
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 1: this is not a reach here. If they decided to

876
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 1: keep it on the ground to go for a running back,

877
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 1: Chow and again Carlos Hyde is there, but wow, they

878
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 1: do go with an offensive lineman Paul and they do

879
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 1: pick a tackle, but it's not Connor Williams. They go

880
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 1: with Austin Corbett, who was a four years starter at

881
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: left tackle and Nevada. Most people project him to guard

882
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 1: at the pro level because of some of his athletic testing.

883
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 1: Maybe it wasn't where they wanted to beat for him

884
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: to be a starting offensive tackle day one in the NFL,

885
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 1: But the Browns must think he can stay there. They

886
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: need a left tackle to replace Joe Thomas. So Austin Corbett,

887
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 1: who I thought was a second round pick um at

888
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,840
Speaker 1: some point in this round, goes to Cleveland Browns and

889
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: thirty third overall. Yeah, Ata Nevada and the things that

890
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:46,320
Speaker 1: were mentioned about him, uh nineteen raps at the combine,

891
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 1: he did not show a hawful lot of strength when

892
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 1: they got to the bench press, and that's something that

893
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: kind of hurt him a little bit. And also, quite honestly,

894
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:58,760
Speaker 1: the level of competition UH in the Mountain West at Nevada. Again,

895
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 1: these are the kinds of things, folks, when scouts are

896
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 1: trying to project you to the next level, they'll look

897
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 1: at the competition and they'll say, you know what, if

898
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 1: you didn't dominate as much as we wanted you to

899
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 1: at a lower level league, that's gonna raise a question mark.

900
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 1: So those are the two biggest question marks about Corbett. No,

901
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:19,479
Speaker 1: no doubt he would have been late second, maybe even

902
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: early third. This might have been a reach, to be

903
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: honest with you, but he is a legitimate prospect and

904
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 1: well the Brown's got him now. Now. He is a

905
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: good technician though, and that's one thing you gotta give

906
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 1: him credit for. He's not the best athlete in the world. Oh,

907
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 1: and the Giants have Boy, they weren't wasting any time.

908
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 1: But the Giants pick his in. Justin Tuck is to

909
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: the podium. Um, I would make a guess, what do

910
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 1: you think? Gotta be hog Molly Hernandez got to be

911
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 1: I agree, I think you're correct. We'll see what the

912
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: Giants doing. Number two. Boy, Dave got him and likes

913
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 1: to get those picks and fast. He doesn't this around Douzzy.

914
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 1: He said he would have gotten the Barkley pick in,

915
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 1: but the NFL made him wait till the five minute

916
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 1: mark before he made the selection. And Justin Tuck is

917
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 1: making the pick for the Giants at thirty four overall

918
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 1: and round number two, and the Giants will select their

919
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:08,720
Speaker 1: second player of the two thousand and eighteen NFL Draft

920
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 1: in Dallas Justin Tuck announced the Giants have in fact

921
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 1: selected You Get Tell by Paul Smile. Will Hernandez had

922
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:21,359
Speaker 1: a you tep A big fella. We talked about him

923
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 1: during the show a lot already, folks. He comes in

924
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 1: at six to seven pounds, he's built like a tank.

925
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: He gets his hands on you, he moves you. He's

926
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 1: a powerful guy, and he's somebody that will certainly make

927
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 1: the Giants first round pick. Se Kwon Barkley a more

928
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 1: effective running back notes that I took on him when

929
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:46,240
Speaker 1: I looked at the tape. Left guard four years starter power,

930
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 1: uh terrific with his hands, He's smart, he gets to

931
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: the second level. He's got a punch. He anchors well. Honestly, folks,

932
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 1: when you are that big, that wide and that powerful

933
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 1: athleticism isn't gonna be your forte. So you're not gonna

934
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:05,879
Speaker 1: see him do a lot of pulling all the way

935
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 1: out to the side and stretch plays. That's not what

936
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 1: he does. He sees people in front of him and

937
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 1: he obliterates them. He wipes them off the face of

938
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: the earth, just runs straight ahead and knocks the trees

939
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 1: down in the middle of the forest. That's what will

940
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 1: her Nandez does and they got a great shot at

941
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,280
Speaker 1: him with his family celebrating the pick on NFL Network.

942
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:30,280
Speaker 1: And it's always good to see how happy the players get. Anyway,

943
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,399
Speaker 1: give you a couple of stats about this particular pick

944
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 1: for the Giant sees the sixth Giants guard picks since

945
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 1: two thousand three. Only the seventh, however, picks ninth. Since

946
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 1: it's the twelfth time the Giants have gone UH to

947
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 1: a guard in the first or second round. UH. They

948
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,320
Speaker 1: had three first rounders over the course of their history,

949
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 1: John Hicks, Eric Moore, William Roberts UH. The last time

950
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 1: that they took a first or second round guard was

951
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 1: Chris Snea in two thousand four, who, by the way,

952
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 1: was pick number thirty four in that draft. How's that

953
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 1: for a coincidence. This is the fifth time the Giants

954
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: have taken a player from U TEP. The last one

955
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 1: was Kevin Belcher. He was a center guard taken in

956
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 1: the sixth round in you remember Belcher started a number

957
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 1: of games, was a good player, had a lot of potential,

958
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 1: had a broken leg on a car accident and sidetracked

959
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 1: his career. Interesting NFL stat that I want to give

960
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 1: you folks, and since the sary cap era started in

961
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 1: Nick Chubb running back from Georgia ghost to Cleveland with

962
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 1: the next pig also wasting no time getting that selection in.

963
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 1: By the way, since the Sary cap eras start of

964
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 1: the n thirty six guards okay, have been taken inside

965
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 1: the first thirty four picks of the draft. Sixteen of

966
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 1: them have made the Pro Bowl. John it is fertile

967
00:46:56,200 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 1: territory for guards in the National Football League and uh

968
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 1: in terms of taking a guard on the first two

969
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 1: picks of the second round, well, that's only been done

970
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: six times in the salary cap era. Two of them

971
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 1: made the Pro Bowl, Trey Johnson of the Redskins, Chris

972
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:16,839
Speaker 1: Sny of the Giants. There's the background, there's the perspective.

973
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 1: Will Hernandez, welcome to Big Blue. And Paul, we talked

974
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 1: about it a few weeks ago. We had Um a

975
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 1: guest on that wrote article UM and it detailed the

976
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,760
Speaker 1: bus rates at certain positions, and one of the safest

977
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 1: positions that you could always select was an interior offensive lineman.

978
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 1: They tend to have higher hit rates then some of

979
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 1: the other spots, mostly because teams don't tend to reach

980
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 1: for players like that, So I think the Giant's got

981
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,879
Speaker 1: excellent value here. And a couple of things I want

982
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 1: to touch on. One. This is actually the highest Dave

983
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 1: Gentleman's ever taken an offensive lineman as general manager. He

984
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 1: picked Trey Turner in the third round for the Panthers,

985
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,839
Speaker 1: So clearly he's a guy Hernandez that Gettleman really likes

986
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 1: to think he's worth a second round pick, because I

987
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 1: think Dave Gettleman has confidence in his ability to find

988
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 1: offensive lineman later in draft and undrafted free agents. Obviously

989
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 1: saw what happened with his undrafted free agent that signed

990
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 1: that pig money contract. This office isn't so yeah, Andrew

991
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,399
Speaker 1: Nora well of course at the Jacksonville Jaguar, so UM

992
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 1: a very very impactful pick with her Nandez, and you

993
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 1: really think that um, he can help their first round

994
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 1: pick Sae Kwon Barkley Paul because for a running back,

995
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 1: you need to have an offensive line in front of

996
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 1: you to be effective, and will her Nandez will help

997
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,919
Speaker 1: them do that. Well. I think the fact that Dave

998
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 1: Gettlman went so quickly to make that pick tells you

999
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 1: that he wasn't interested in fielding any phone calls. Wasn't

1000
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 1: interested in any kind of movement whatsoever. He was committed

1001
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 1: to Will her Nandez. He he must have felt that

1002
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 1: the value was was absolutely sensational and that there was

1003
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 1: going to be quite a drop between her Nandez and

1004
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 1: the other offensive linement because they basically hustled justin Tuck

1005
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 1: up to the podium. Well, and then the Browns hustle

1006
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 1: their guy up to the podium the picnic jobbing, and

1007
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 1: the Colts pick is in as well, and we'll see

1008
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 1: what they end up doing with the selection. So, um,

1009
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,919
Speaker 1: we'll keep keep that in mind as we move forward here,

1010
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 1: Um with the with the pics and let's take your

1011
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,280
Speaker 1: calls here, we'll get some reaction to the Will Hernandez

1012
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 1: pick at two A one nine four, five one three

1013
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 1: two one nine four or five one three. Let's go

1014
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 1: back to the phones and say what's up to var

1015
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 1: in Atlanta online too? What's up to bar? How are

1016
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 1: you hey? What's going on there? Um? Off season has

1017
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: been crazy so far, but I think we got our

1018
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 1: two guys that we've been I guess dreaming for. Oh,

1019
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 1: so that that kind of locks up two spots for us.

1020
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:49,840
Speaker 1: Call it because um, I wanted to talk about round

1021
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 1: three and what I feel like is our busy, biggest

1022
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:58,320
Speaker 1: need moving forward. And after about two years of watching

1023
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 1: Andrew Adams and uh Darius Thompson and even DRC a

1024
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 1: little bit back back there playing safety, I feel like

1025
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 1: it's tim gonna get an upgrade at that position, and

1026
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 1: I really want us to take a safety in round three.

1027
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 1: Tavarious More safety out of Southern Mississippi. Yeah, you know

1028
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 1: what he and you actually, Tavar, It's funny you mentioned him.

1029
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 1: He got He's a guy that was snubbed from the

1030
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 1: combine and I think a lot of people regret that

1031
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:26,839
Speaker 1: I've heard his name mentioned a lot as a third

1032
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 1: round pick. So I think that's a good one, right.

1033
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 1: He's six two, the runs, the four, three, four, Yep,

1034
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 1: he's he's a playmaker. I feel like that will be

1035
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 1: the perfect compliment to landing Collins to the entire defense.

1036
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:40,720
Speaker 1: And it will finally, because I mean to be honest,

1037
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 1: there's been so many big plays last season where, uh,

1038
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:47,840
Speaker 1: you know, big touchdowns where Darry and Tom Darry Thompson

1039
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 1: would just missed the tackle, you know, So we don't

1040
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 1: have any short tacklers back to their accent of of Collins.

1041
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:55,879
Speaker 1: So I think that that should be our next pick. Um.

1042
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 1: All right, I know wide receiver is another you know,

1043
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 1: uh position to it that we should look at, but

1044
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,320
Speaker 1: I feel like we should go safety. I appreciate the

1045
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 1: call it of our good stuff. Man. Yeah, I look.

1046
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 1: I think I think safety is what I would call

1047
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 1: a sneaky need. You know you have Andrew Adams, you

1048
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 1: know what he is, obviously, Darren Thompson's I know he's

1049
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 1: technically give me a third year player, but it's really

1050
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 1: going to be a saft Michael Chomps Thomas too, you do,

1051
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 1: That's true. Who's more of a special teams guy, but

1052
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 1: he can also play safety, no question about it. So

1053
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 1: I think that's one of those sneaky needs. If you

1054
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 1: see moving this way, Tavar, if you see a guy

1055
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,799
Speaker 1: that has a second round grade and he's by far

1056
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 1: the best player on the board and he's a safety

1057
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 1: and he's there in the third round, I wouldn't have

1058
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 1: a problem picking him, but I wouldn't consider it on

1059
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 1: the same level as say, cornerback or linebacker or pass rusher. Yeah.

1060
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 1: I'm with you on that, John, And quite honestly, the

1061
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 1: Giants do have two picks at the beginning of the

1062
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 1: third round? Who knows? I mean, this second round just started.

1063
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 1: Is it possible that they do something with those picks.

1064
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 1: Maybe they move up into the bottom of the second round.

1065
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 1: If they see something they really like, maybe they moved

1066
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 1: down to the third round. I have no idea, So

1067
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you I'm way premature here to be

1068
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 1: talking about who the Giant should be looking at in

1069
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 1: the third round. That's just me. Remember, they only have

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00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 1: six picks, so it's not like they have a lot

1071
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 1: of inventory here to try. They don't. They really don't.

1072
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 1: So you know, I just assume kind of let this

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00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 1: round play out and then we'll get we'll get to

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00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 1: who we think should be the third round picks as

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00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 1: we get a lot closer. Right now, I think it's

1076
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 1: just pretty cool that Will Hernandez is gonna be coming

1077
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 1: to the medal lands. Because I gotta tell you something, folks.

1078
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:31,839
Speaker 1: From the moment John told me about him, and then

1079
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 1: I started scouting him. Uh, this guy is just a

1080
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 1: horse and he he's a left guard, by the way,

1081
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 1: which must mean that mamma is gonna wind up flopping

1082
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 1: the right guard. I don't think you can always have

1083
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 1: an end to play right if you I don't. I

1084
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 1: don't know if if that is the power side by

1085
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 1: the way you always talk about it, it is, it is,

1086
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 1: But I'm thinking her Nandez and Solder next to each other.

1087
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 1: That's a lot of skin and bones and muscle and beef.

1088
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 1: Solder at six seven, he's a big dude, and of

1089
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 1: course you stick Hernandez next to him, four year starter

1090
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 1: at that position. Do you really want to change him

1091
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:08,799
Speaker 1: and make him go to the other side. I don't know.

1092
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:10,839
Speaker 1: They'll probably talk to both of them and see how

1093
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 1: it works out. But I wouldn't be surprised if Fernandez

1094
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 1: is the left guard. And omam Aid did play right

1095
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 1: guard his little three two years in the League of

1096
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 1: Tampa in Chicago, but his last two years he's been

1097
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 1: at left guard. So that's the way I'm seeing there

1098
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 1: has there is some historical flexibility there on omam May's part.

1099
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 1: And Darius Leonard Paul, one of your potential third round

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00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:33,319
Speaker 1: linebacker targets off the board to the Indianapolis Colts at

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00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 1: pick number thirty six. Yeah, now that's high for me,

1102
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:40,359
Speaker 1: but I do like him. Uh. He plays extremely well

1103
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:44,320
Speaker 1: in space tracks the ball down very well. He's athletic,

1104
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 1: he's quick, he's got good horizontal movement. Um. I like him.

1105
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:51,880
Speaker 1: He avoids traffic, he makes plays, he's a good player.

1106
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 1: And uh wow. But but that I thought was a

1107
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 1: little bit high. And you know what I'm seeing in

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00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 1: the draft, Paul. We had four linebackers go in the

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00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:01,360
Speaker 1: first round. Now even the linebacker here Goo at the

1110
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:04,839
Speaker 1: top of the second round, and is this their second pick?

1111
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,359
Speaker 1: The Colts are they announcing anybody looks like they are.

1112
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:09,320
Speaker 1: The pick is in the thirty seven the culture picking

1113
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 1: back to backburn. That's one of the guys we talked

1114
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 1: about as a second round selection, but he's taken over

1115
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:19,720
Speaker 1: James Daniels. You're right, Paul, there must be serious medical

1116
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:22,399
Speaker 1: concerns with that name and should we also know that

1117
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 1: in the first five picks of the second round, we

1118
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 1: are now seeing three offensive lineman go off the board.

1119
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:30,840
Speaker 1: That's the run right now, folks. And that's the trend.

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00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 1: And by the way, what the point I was making before,

1121
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 1: you know, Dave got them and talking about the myth

1122
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 1: of the de value of the running back, and we've

1123
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 1: seen it kind of come back in recent years. The

1124
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 1: running back position. I think we're seeing it with the

1125
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:44,879
Speaker 1: linebacker position now too. And do you know why? It's

1126
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 1: the run pass option. Yeah, those plays happen so quickly.

1127
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 1: Corners and safeties don't help all that much. You need

1128
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,399
Speaker 1: the You need smart, fast linebackers to get in those

1129
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 1: passing lanes to disrupt those type of rhythm plays. And

1130
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 1: I think teams understand that you need good linebackers to

1131
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:05,240
Speaker 1: disrupt those new things that are coming into NFL offenses.

1132
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:07,320
Speaker 1: And I think linebackers are gaining a little bit of

1133
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 1: value because of that. All right, let's get some more reaction. Uh,

1134
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 1: Sean and Philly not only online one, Let's go to

1135
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 1: him next. What's up Sean? Hey, how you guys doing? Hey? Lance? Hey,

1136
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 1: Pauliddon legend? How isn't here? Wait? Wait? First of all,

1137
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:23,359
Speaker 1: First of all, Lance is a lot shorter than John. Yes,

1138
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 1: and much less good looking by myself. That's okay, I'm

1139
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:31,240
Speaker 1: just messed with you, Shan, It's all good. What's up, hey, Paully?

1140
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 1: How good does it feel to have a draft for

1141
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,799
Speaker 1: the first time in such a long time where what

1142
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 1: you want and what you expect actually happens. It's not

1143
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 1: a shot at Jerry Lease. But like I'm very excited

1144
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 1: about gettleman Um so impressed. I love how quick to

1145
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 1: pick is into he knows what he wants, he trust

1146
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 1: his board, and for the most time I've been waiting

1147
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 1: for a draft like this. How excited are you about

1148
00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 1: Boon Barkley? Paul D I think that Sequon Barkley does

1149
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 1: so much for this club, not just because of the

1150
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:07,720
Speaker 1: versatility that he brings, but because he changes the entire

1151
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 1: dynamic of this football team, from the defensive coordinators on

1152
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 1: Monday Night who will stay up late worrying about how

1153
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:18,240
Speaker 1: to defend him and Odell Beckham Jr. To the time

1154
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 1: that you actually get him on the field in the game,

1155
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:25,799
Speaker 1: to where he will allow the Giants defense to dictate

1156
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:29,399
Speaker 1: whatever it is they want to do on Sunday, which

1157
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:33,319
Speaker 1: will in turn help field position and also help them

1158
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:36,440
Speaker 1: with time of possession, two critical things that we have

1159
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 1: learned over the years have become more and more important

1160
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:44,760
Speaker 1: as teams try to shorten games and try to strategically

1161
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 1: beat the opposition instead of just going out there and

1162
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 1: winging the ball around. Teams are finally starting to turn

1163
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:53,399
Speaker 1: the corner on this John to where it's not just

1164
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 1: throw the ball like a video game. They're starting to

1165
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 1: play more field position and a little bit more running game,

1166
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:04,319
Speaker 1: figuring out that that kind of strategy could be extremely effective. Absolutely,

1167
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 1: and I'm just so grateful to the organization for the

1168
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 1: respect and the love that they're given the Eli. This

1169
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:14,360
Speaker 1: is gonna prolong his life, make them so much more effective.

1170
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 1: I just think the way that they're setting it up,

1171
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 1: it seemed like it never was a question about Eli

1172
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 1: with gettleman Um and like, I just love him and

1173
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 1: he takes a lot of hits and and takes you know,

1174
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 1: he gets the praise when it's good and he gets

1175
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 1: all the bad when it's bad. I'm just so grateful

1176
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 1: that it's going to prolong Eli's life, his his playing

1177
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 1: at the top nots level. I'm I'm just very excited

1178
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 1: about the season. I appreciate you guys taking the call,

1179
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 1: and I just love the show. Thanks very thank you

1180
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 1: for calling. And he shouldn't just think that about Barkley,

1181
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 1: because I have a feeling Eli is going to like

1182
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 1: Will Hernandez too. Yeah, no question. And let me say

1183
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 1: this too, by the way, know you mentioned it's nice

1184
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 1: to be able to go into a draft and get

1185
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 1: the players you want. Well, not to be dour, that's

1186
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 1: what happens. And you're picking so high. Yeah, when you're

1187
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 1: picking second, is only one team in front of it's

1188
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 1: easy to get the guy that you want. You don't

1189
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 1: have to wait eight team picks before you're selecting somebody.

1190
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 1: It makes your life a lot easier. Now, that's exactly

1191
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 1: the point I was gonna make, makes it a lot simpler.

1192
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 1: It's something that every general manager who I've dealt with,

1193
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 1: from George Junk to early. Of course you did, Jerry

1194
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 1: reached to Dave Gettlman have made a point of singing,

1195
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 1: we would not like to have a habit of doing this. Yes,

1196
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:29,439
Speaker 1: the Buccaneers pick at thirty eight is in their heading

1197
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:31,919
Speaker 1: to the podium. Rob rang one of our good draft

1198
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 1: analyst Paul Is, tweeted out hearing that LSU running back

1199
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 1: Darius Guys may tumble today, So something to keep an

1200
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 1: eye on um. And then we're gonna see who the

1201
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 1: Buccaneers select. I believe that's Ronde Barber up there is

1202
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 1: un once it's tick in a buck's disguise. I'm pretty

1203
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 1: sure that's Ronde, and he'll be announcing the Buccaneers pick

1204
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 1: here and number thirty eight overall in round number two.

1205
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 1: I'll have that pick just to say, yeah, by the way,

1206
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 1: we do expect Will Hernandez to be coming on our

1207
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 1: program at some time. He soon. We just want to

1208
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 1: keep you informed of that. Stay tuned here because uh,

1209
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 1: you know the hog Molly is going to be on

1210
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 1: the line, and we'll be very glad to uh to

1211
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 1: find out a little bit what he's thinking as he

1212
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 1: gets picked by the Giants tonight. Ronald Jones running back

1213
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 1: usc off the board to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. For sure,

1214
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 1: that's a nice fit for them. They need a running

1215
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 1: back with Doug Martin moving on, so uh, try to

1216
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 1: add some balance of that Buccaneers offense. We'll see how

1217
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 1: that goes for them. Two five, one three. Let's get

1218
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 1: back to the phone to say what's up. What's gonna

1219
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 1: line to Natalie Huan Texas. He's up next? What's up you? Hey,

1220
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 1: how's it going? What's up? Buddy? Yeah? So I said here,

1221
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 1: what's up Hugh? Yeah, Well, I was just calling say

1222
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 1: I'm just so happy about this draft. Will Hernandez is

1223
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 1: gonna open up our run game. I'm happy that Eli

1224
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 1: will be out quarterback and I will be at the

1225
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 1: Houston Ticks and game. It's very good. So I'm just

1226
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 1: it's been a great draft and I've been listening to

1227
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 1: you guys for a long time and I'm finally getting through.

1228
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 1: So i just wanted to let you guys to say him,

1229
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 1: I'm glad that things are going our way. Friendly. Well,

1230
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 1: I appreciate you calling in. Thank you so much. Enjoy

1231
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 1: the rest of the draft. There are more picks to come.

1232
01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 1: Thank you you great stuff, and appreciate you being a

1233
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 1: loyal listener, and thank you for calling in. We're happy

1234
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:28,480
Speaker 1: to get you on and chat Giants football with you.

1235
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 1: Don't be a stranger. We love to hear from you again.

1236
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 1: Let's go to Andre and Rochester. He's up next on

1237
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:35,320
Speaker 1: Big Blue Kick Golf Live Special Friday Night Draft Edition.

1238
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 1: What's up, Andre, it was going on. I'm I'm with

1239
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:44,440
Speaker 1: other fans. I'm loving this draft, man, And just to

1240
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 1: shuttle off the other color um. It does seem like

1241
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 1: every time the draft comes, the other team picks whoever

1242
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:54,960
Speaker 1: point he was. But this year is different because the

1243
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 1: Giants are picking second. You know, that's happened so often

1244
01:00:58,040 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 1: to me in the last half a dozen years of

1245
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 1: especially in the first round. D J Fluker, Jack Conklin,

1246
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 1: Oh sure that's right, Sheriff, that's right, Zack Martin. How

1247
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 1: many of these guys, And by the way, James Daniels

1248
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:15,920
Speaker 1: off the board to the Bears at thirty ninth overall,

1249
01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 1: So how about this, We've had seven picks, four have

1250
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 1: been offensive linemen, to have been running backs, and one's

1251
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 1: been a linebacker. So much for premium positions. Huh, well,

1252
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:36,880
Speaker 1: bottom line yet our hands. I believe he will be

1253
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:39,800
Speaker 1: available in round three. I'm not positive he's going to

1254
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 1: be available, and round number four he is in Dallas.

1255
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 1: By the way, they showed him on tell. He's a

1256
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 1: great kid. He has he has made the trip, and

1257
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 1: they certainly are hoping that he will get picked tonight

1258
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:51,920
Speaker 1: because you know that'll be a big splash of excitement

1259
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 1: for him. But I really think that, you know, when

1260
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 1: just discussing for one second and call, I'll let you

1261
01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:58,200
Speaker 1: get to your on the point. I just want to

1262
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 1: say this, John's pointing out how the offensive linemen are going.

1263
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:07,760
Speaker 1: This again reaffirms the philosophy that football once again is

1264
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 1: going back to being one of the trenches. Here just this. Yes,

1265
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:14,840
Speaker 1: I I really am funny. Thank you called it please.

1266
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:16,960
Speaker 1: I needed I needed to make that ps A. So

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Speaker 1: thank thank you so much. Go right ahead. You're welcome, guys.

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Speaker 1: You guys feel like family. And um do you think,

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01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:26,320
Speaker 1: um he'll fit into James Betcher's system if we do

1270
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:28,800
Speaker 1: get our hands on him and I'll take it off. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate the call, Andrey, thanks. So. Look, the good

1272
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 1: thing about James Betcher and his philosophy, now we haven't

1273
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 1: seen him actually do it in person yet, but what

1274
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:37,200
Speaker 1: we saw in Arizona and what he kind of talked

1275
01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 1: about when we spoke to him a few weeks ago,

1276
01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:44,240
Speaker 1: Paul was he will adjustice defensive schemes based on the personnel.

1277
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:47,480
Speaker 1: And Jackie Griffin. If there's one thing he is, well,

1278
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 1: it's a great athlete. The second thing he is is

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01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 1: that he's really versatile. He can rush the passer, he

1280
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 1: can play linebacker. He ran a four four, so he

1281
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 1: can even run around. Maybe it's safety at some point.

1282
01:02:57,360 --> 01:03:00,280
Speaker 1: So I do think James Betcher would find a way

1283
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:02,640
Speaker 1: to use him in one way, shape or form in

1284
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 1: a sub package. Yeah, you know, a a veteran Pro

1285
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:09,960
Speaker 1: Bowl linebacker who I was speaking with over the course

1286
01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:12,240
Speaker 1: of the last couple of days, said to me, he

1287
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:14,959
Speaker 1: will certainly help you on special teams, and he will

1288
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:17,280
Speaker 1: help you in the sub package. In sub way, he

1289
01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 1: won't probably be in every down linebackers, but he's only

1290
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 1: two twenty. That's unlikely. So the question becomes, how high

1291
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 1: do you draft a guy who you believe isn't going

1292
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 1: to be a guy who plays the majority of the plays.

1293
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:35,760
Speaker 1: You know he'll be on specials, even in the sub package,

1294
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 1: he may not be in the majority of those. So

1295
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:42,480
Speaker 1: how do you how do you rate that? Where where

1296
01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:45,919
Speaker 1: do you go? Fourth round, fifth round? Where that's where

1297
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 1: it comes down to. It's how many plays a game

1298
01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 1: do you think you can get out of him? It's

1299
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 1: an extra question in addition to the talent, the medical,

1300
01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 1: the intangibles, which by the way, are all good in

1301
01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 1: his case, off the charts by the great, great, great kid.

1302
01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 1: And again that's why I think top of round three

1303
01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:06,880
Speaker 1: might be a little rich. I do think that, but

1304
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:08,920
Speaker 1: I think I think once you get to you know,

1305
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:11,960
Speaker 1: a pick eighty, I think you're getting in the neighborhood.

1306
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:13,720
Speaker 1: And we had some guys, some of the experts we

1307
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 1: had during the combine when we were out there say

1308
01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 1: they thought probably fourth and fifth was the most likely scenario,

1309
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:22,920
Speaker 1: didn't we That was before he worked out and he

1310
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 1: did well. Yeah, that's why I think maybe back in

1311
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:27,840
Speaker 1: the round three, if if, if things go well for him,

1312
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:29,560
Speaker 1: off to wait and see the Broncos pick his in.

1313
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 1: We'll let you know what it is when they make

1314
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:33,880
Speaker 1: the announcement. Julian and Florida. Let's go to him next.

1315
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:40,680
Speaker 1: What's up? Julian, Hey, what's up? And a great how

1316
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:43,640
Speaker 1: are you? Lance? Again? I don't know how this is happening,

1317
01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 1: because trust me, if this was Lance, you would see

1318
01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 1: probably about the top of his head. Now it is

1319
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 1: John Schmelkin, Paul to Tino, how are you? Julian? I

1320
01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 1: should let you know you got you and Lance down

1321
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:57,760
Speaker 1: very very You know what. It's funny, Julian, you know

1322
01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 1: who always used to tell us that Mike Garret Solo

1323
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 1: used to joke that me and Land sounded exactly alike

1324
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 1: when we used to have on the phone to do

1325
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 1: interviews and he could never figure out who was asking

1326
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 1: the question. He can yeah, he couldn't tell the difference.

1327
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:12,920
Speaker 1: I promise you That's why that guy A couple of

1328
01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 1: I'm sure, said Lance, and Johnny. I am PAULI sorry,

1329
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:17,960
Speaker 1: I don't even know Johnny. And by the way, I'm

1330
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 1: not sure if I should take that as a compliment

1331
01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 1: or not. Anyway, No, no, you guys a man. Okay,

1332
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:24,440
Speaker 1: this this least to my next point. First of all,

1333
01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:28,400
Speaker 1: you guys are awesome. Thank you. I am an avid lizard,

1334
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 1: a listener. I'm just probably like the fifth time I

1335
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:33,720
Speaker 1: called in, But uh, I really appreciate what you guys

1336
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:36,320
Speaker 1: have done throughout the whole draft. Last year I thought

1337
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:38,440
Speaker 1: was stressful at the whole tight end thing. The year

1338
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:41,400
Speaker 1: before that was the whole apple thing. There is not

1339
01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:44,560
Speaker 1: have been a draft that was more stressful than the

1340
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:47,360
Speaker 1: number two picks, unless PAULI can attest the two thousand

1341
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:50,000
Speaker 1: four being more stressful. You know, I have to tell

1342
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:52,600
Speaker 1: you after what has happened here in the last year,

1343
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:56,080
Speaker 1: with the team having a subpar season and then all

1344
01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:59,280
Speaker 1: of the hoop blon and the change in administration and

1345
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:02,200
Speaker 1: the coaching half and the headlines and so forth and

1346
01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:05,240
Speaker 1: so on, it it was. It was quite an eventful

1347
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:09,120
Speaker 1: twelve months. And maybe for that reason, and and Dave

1348
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:11,440
Speaker 1: Gentleman coming in with so much promise, and those of

1349
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:16,360
Speaker 1: us who know him have tremendous confidence in his ability

1350
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:19,920
Speaker 1: to make this thing right. Uh. Maybe for that reason

1351
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:22,400
Speaker 1: because I like Dave so much and I know Dave

1352
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:25,360
Speaker 1: so well, and I believe in him so much. Yeah,

1353
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 1: maybe I'm I'm triple stressed, more so than I would

1354
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:31,560
Speaker 1: have been otherwise because that's how I feel so much

1355
01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 1: for this guy and I and I know he's the

1356
01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 1: guy who can make it right. Hey, look, I wanted

1357
01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:37,919
Speaker 1: to be right for him. We talked about it though.

1358
01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:40,480
Speaker 1: The strength of this draft, based on where the Giants

1359
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:43,439
Speaker 1: were taking matched up well way well, and we've had

1360
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:47,360
Speaker 1: the last few drafts, it hasn't necessarily played out at all. Well,

1361
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:50,440
Speaker 1: desperate for a tackle and there's like one guy that

1362
01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:52,560
Speaker 1: you want and you pray that he gets to you.

1363
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:55,520
Speaker 1: That wasn't the case this year, thankfully, you know. Yeah,

1364
01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:58,640
Speaker 1: And maybe that added to the stress because you knew

1365
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:01,240
Speaker 1: that there was going to be fruit there at the

1366
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:03,520
Speaker 1: market and you were hungry for the fruit and if

1367
01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 1: you don't get it, you stressed out over everything with

1368
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:07,680
Speaker 1: the Giants, doesn't matter what it is. Let's be honest,

1369
01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:10,480
Speaker 1: I'm Italian. What do you want? Courtland Sutton by the way,

1370
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:13,600
Speaker 1: to the different Broncos, there's a receiver for you. Put

1371
01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:16,360
Speaker 1: him with various Thomas. Those are two big boy wide receivers.

1372
01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:19,800
Speaker 1: Right there. Go ahead, Julia. What's your second point? Go ahead? Um. Well, first,

1373
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:21,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say just being a Giant fan is very stressful,

1374
01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:23,920
Speaker 1: even when we won those Super Bowls and wasn't very easy.

1375
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:27,880
Speaker 1: So you know, Julian hate to tell you. I hate

1376
01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:31,120
Speaker 1: to say, Julian, every NFL, every NFL fan feels that

1377
01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:33,280
Speaker 1: way rooting for their team. To Juliana, got some recommend

1378
01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:36,680
Speaker 1: a recommendation for you. It works from me, at least somewhat.

1379
01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:40,560
Speaker 1: Try to get at least five try to get in

1380
01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:44,240
Speaker 1: at least five miles a day. It does help. It

1381
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:46,240
Speaker 1: takes the edge of and by the way, sleeping more

1382
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:51,120
Speaker 1: than five hours helps to Paul Dave get him is

1383
01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 1: a does at two point? Oh guys, by the way,

1384
01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:57,200
Speaker 1: just so you know, they've get them in and pulse

1385
01:07:57,280 --> 01:08:00,200
Speaker 1: to share the same brain. So if they've got the man,

1386
01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:02,160
Speaker 1: every goes out the doorfall. I wouldn't mind you being

1387
01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:08,320
Speaker 1: a GM Why would you go that way? Yeah, go ahead,

1388
01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 1: thank you? So, Um, I would say that, uh, we

1389
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:15,320
Speaker 1: have we have to we absolutely have to go defense

1390
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:17,559
Speaker 1: all the way here. Now, I mean, I don't know,

1391
01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:19,840
Speaker 1: so I guess when I wanted to ask, well, here's

1392
01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:22,240
Speaker 1: two things. Do we go corners or do we go

1393
01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:24,320
Speaker 1: linebackers next? Or the third pick? I know what I

1394
01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:25,800
Speaker 1: know you guys are gonna say it depends on which

1395
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 1: talent is there first. And my next question would be

1396
01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:33,840
Speaker 1: which defenses in the playoffs this year ran three four

1397
01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:42,639
Speaker 1: I would love to know. Patriots, Patriots, Steelers, rams um

1398
01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:44,760
Speaker 1: trying to go out to top of my head, Jaguars

1399
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:50,720
Speaker 1: ran a four three, Chiefs ran a three four. UM

1400
01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:54,479
Speaker 1: trying to think Falcons ran a four three, Panthers ran

1401
01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:58,000
Speaker 1: a four three. UM who came out of the a

1402
01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:01,080
Speaker 1: f C. South. What are the Titans run? They run

1403
01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:02,840
Speaker 1: a four three? Titans run a four three. So I

1404
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:04,320
Speaker 1: think you look at the three or four teams that

1405
01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:06,120
Speaker 1: run a three four that were in the playoffs, give

1406
01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:07,960
Speaker 1: a take, and and frankly, I might be missing one

1407
01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:10,719
Speaker 1: or two. But you know what, honestly, and thanks called Jilian.

1408
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:13,519
Speaker 1: We appreciate James Betcher. He's gonna run a multiple scheme

1409
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:16,000
Speaker 1: and a hybrid. And even he has said to us,

1410
01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:18,320
Speaker 1: don't call me a typical three four that's just not

1411
01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:21,479
Speaker 1: gonna do with justice. No, absolutely not. And like I've

1412
01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:24,519
Speaker 1: said this before, I think nowadays, with the type of

1413
01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:28,000
Speaker 1: as Paul would call them tweeters, I call them stand

1414
01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:30,679
Speaker 1: up rushers coming out in the draft and a higher volume,

1415
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:32,320
Speaker 1: I think it has actually a lot of times it's

1416
01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:35,080
Speaker 1: easier to find three four personnel these days than it

1417
01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:37,360
Speaker 1: is to find four three personnel with the because you

1418
01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:39,080
Speaker 1: see a lot more three four than four three in

1419
01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:41,519
Speaker 1: college these days, you really do. Yeah, I agree to

1420
01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:45,080
Speaker 1: four five one three. I think Hudson and Brooklyn has

1421
01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:46,680
Speaker 1: been holding along. Let' let's go to him next. Let's

1422
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:53,240
Speaker 1: up Hudson. Hey, what's up? Guys? Are we doing alright? Um?

1423
01:09:53,320 --> 01:09:57,200
Speaker 1: I just wanna say I originally wanted two giants to

1424
01:09:57,240 --> 01:10:02,479
Speaker 1: trade down and get more picks, but it didn't work out,

1425
01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:04,760
Speaker 1: and I'm happy with sa kwan it Hudson real quick.

1426
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:07,840
Speaker 1: I just want to tell you something. The opportunity really

1427
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:09,840
Speaker 1: wasn't there. Uh. Me and Paul talked about it for

1428
01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:12,040
Speaker 1: a long time. If somebody backs up the truck with picks,

1429
01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:14,760
Speaker 1: we we'd beat down for that too. Based on what

1430
01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:17,280
Speaker 1: Dave Geteman said last night and from what we've people

1431
01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:21,599
Speaker 1: we've talked to, that opportunity never came close to presenting himself,

1432
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:25,600
Speaker 1: presenting itself even after teams found out Sam Donald was

1433
01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:28,040
Speaker 1: on the board. So unfortunately, I don't think that was

1434
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:30,719
Speaker 1: a possibility. As as I like to say in the

1435
01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:35,639
Speaker 1: pison vernacular, the offer that they could not refuse never came.

1436
01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:37,920
Speaker 1: As Dave get him and said, hot dogs, pretzels and

1437
01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:43,120
Speaker 1: cracker jacks. Right, Okay, I accept that. I'm happy with

1438
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:46,200
Speaker 1: Sa Kwan anything. I'm happy also with the with the

1439
01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:49,639
Speaker 1: Hernandez pick. Okay, this is just a couple of names

1440
01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:52,360
Speaker 1: I'd like to run off to suggest that we can

1441
01:10:52,479 --> 01:10:54,960
Speaker 1: get they go ahead. I think I think we need

1442
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 1: to use one more pick one of the new two

1443
01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:02,040
Speaker 1: next picks on the office to b Lineman perfectly like

1444
01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:06,160
Speaker 1: you said, John, you mentioned Jamarco Jones, uh Tyrelle Crosby,

1445
01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:09,559
Speaker 1: also Orlando Brown, one of those three I would like

1446
01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:11,840
Speaker 1: to have also up in the line. And if we

1447
01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:15,439
Speaker 1: can't get them, one of those work. Take scenario, there's

1448
01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:19,760
Speaker 1: a guy Wyatt Teller from Virginia Tech. I think he's

1449
01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:23,280
Speaker 1: really good to another road greater. He's a guard though

1450
01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:26,640
Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind having another road gread of guard in

1451
01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:29,640
Speaker 1: the line of for us. Yeah, I honestly don't necessarily

1452
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:33,880
Speaker 1: think that with Greco and Jerry and mom Ay and

1453
01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:38,160
Speaker 1: now Hernandez, you need you need tackles. I can't see

1454
01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:41,320
Speaker 1: them taking another guard. I really can't. I will tell

1455
01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:44,680
Speaker 1: you this. Martinez Rankin is still on the board if

1456
01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:48,120
Speaker 1: you're interested in a tackle. Now. He was a bit inconsistent,

1457
01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:51,120
Speaker 1: especially with his motor in college, but this is a

1458
01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:53,439
Speaker 1: guy who had a solid second round, great on him

1459
01:11:53,439 --> 01:11:56,599
Speaker 1: by by most experts. Uh, he might be a name

1460
01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:58,880
Speaker 1: to watch if you really wanted to take a tackle

1461
01:11:58,920 --> 01:12:02,280
Speaker 1: and he drops to the third out, Okay, I could

1462
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:05,880
Speaker 1: accept that. Uh. After that, I think we need to

1463
01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:09,400
Speaker 1: go all defense. Um, there's a couple of edge defenders

1464
01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:16,120
Speaker 1: I like. I like, uh do two weeks yeah exactly

1465
01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:18,920
Speaker 1: from Lake Forest. They have a guy from Oklahoma, so

1466
01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:23,800
Speaker 1: he's really he's another edge guy. Really, you have a

1467
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:26,640
Speaker 1: long name. It's hard to pronounce. I got it, I

1468
01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:32,000
Speaker 1: got it. I've practiced this obania Okaron quo, n thank you.

1469
01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:38,040
Speaker 1: I've practiced that one. Good good. Um. There's a couple

1470
01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:39,840
Speaker 1: of safeties. I think it's really good. One Your call

1471
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:44,840
Speaker 1: is uh called earlier. Tavarus um More from Southern Myths

1472
01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:50,720
Speaker 1: really good because they're white from West Virginia. Bates from

1473
01:12:50,720 --> 01:12:53,040
Speaker 1: Wake four. I like Jesse Bates. I I think he's

1474
01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:54,920
Speaker 1: a true free safety. If he's there at the top

1475
01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:57,599
Speaker 1: around three, I would certainly think about it. We appreciate

1476
01:12:57,640 --> 01:13:02,599
Speaker 1: the call man, thanks so much. Okay, what real quick,

1477
01:13:02,680 --> 01:13:06,759
Speaker 1: real quick? The cornerbacks, I like, uh that cornerback Pari

1478
01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:09,639
Speaker 1: Nickerson from Tulane really good. I think we could. He's

1479
01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:12,080
Speaker 1: a he's a slot guy. I think right. He's a

1480
01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:18,600
Speaker 1: smaller guy, yes, but really good hands getting fat and

1481
01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:23,640
Speaker 1: who's your last guy? I think that was it. I

1482
01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:26,519
Speaker 1: appreciate the calling, my friend. Good stuff. Um. By the way,

1483
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:29,400
Speaker 1: the Titans traded up with the Raiders. I have not

1484
01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:31,240
Speaker 1: seen details on that trade. Yea, I've been trying to

1485
01:13:31,240 --> 01:13:33,080
Speaker 1: find that. I can't. I want to have him. I'll

1486
01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:35,679
Speaker 1: give him to you. Uh, let's see if Ian Rappaport

1487
01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:39,519
Speaker 1: has it here. Um they do not. Here we go. Um.

1488
01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:42,400
Speaker 1: Oakland traded their forty one overall pick to the Titans.

1489
01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:44,880
Speaker 1: They get back fifty seven and eighty nine, So that's

1490
01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:48,880
Speaker 1: a two and a three. That's a big price to

1491
01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:50,640
Speaker 1: move up. For the Titans. So they did move up

1492
01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:53,120
Speaker 1: all the way from fifty seven to forty one, and

1493
01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:54,760
Speaker 1: they needed a pass rusher and they got the best

1494
01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:57,840
Speaker 1: one left and Harold Landry at a Boston college. So

1495
01:13:58,200 --> 01:14:01,040
Speaker 1: there goes, at least in my opinion, the last premier

1496
01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:04,040
Speaker 1: true pass rusher on the board. And I think he's

1497
01:14:04,040 --> 01:14:06,719
Speaker 1: an outside linebacker in a three four. Now. They also

1498
01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:10,640
Speaker 1: took linebacker Rashaan Evans out of Tennessee UH in the

1499
01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:14,040
Speaker 1: first round, so you know they've got an edge rusher

1500
01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:16,680
Speaker 1: and an outside linebacker. Again, however you want to name

1501
01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:19,160
Speaker 1: them or quantify them, those were the two of the

1502
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:23,080
Speaker 1: top four pseudo outside linebackers if you want to call

1503
01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:26,320
Speaker 1: it by position. UH. Pretty good take for them, no

1504
01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:29,280
Speaker 1: question about it. And you know they have young guys

1505
01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:31,920
Speaker 1: on offense. They've Derek Derrick Henry running back. UH. They

1506
01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:34,280
Speaker 1: have Marcus Mariota quarterback. They used the first round pick

1507
01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:36,080
Speaker 1: on Corey Davis last year. It was kind of slow

1508
01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:38,639
Speaker 1: coming along. They still Delaney Walker. They have a very

1509
01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:41,439
Speaker 1: good offensive line in Tennessee, so they're they're trying to

1510
01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:44,559
Speaker 1: fortify that defense now and hope that Mariota take that

1511
01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:46,439
Speaker 1: next stop on the contra side of the ball, so

1512
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:50,360
Speaker 1: I think it makes sense as well. Two, five, one, three,

1513
01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:51,960
Speaker 1: You guys are great. We still have a full bank

1514
01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:53,719
Speaker 1: of calls. We're more than an hour into the show.

1515
01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:57,280
Speaker 1: Let's go to stops in Washington. He's been holding the longest.

1516
01:14:57,280 --> 01:15:00,400
Speaker 1: How are your stops. I'm doing great. I called you

1517
01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:03,320
Speaker 1: earlier today. I staid, if we pick harry Nandez, I

1518
01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:05,519
Speaker 1: will walk away from this jaft a happy man. So

1519
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:08,439
Speaker 1: you're happy, completely Well, I'm walking away a happy man.

1520
01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:14,160
Speaker 1: We got uh an offensive dynamic weapon. We got Hernandez.

1521
01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:16,519
Speaker 1: I honestly feel like you picked two Pro bowlers, and

1522
01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:18,760
Speaker 1: not only that, I feel like these two guys are

1523
01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:21,400
Speaker 1: gonna put Eli back into the Pro Bowl. O'Dell is

1524
01:15:21,439 --> 01:15:23,559
Speaker 1: gonna go to the Pro Bowl, and we're probably gonna

1525
01:15:23,560 --> 01:15:26,639
Speaker 1: get you know, I just trust gentleman at this point.

1526
01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:28,960
Speaker 1: I feel like he's gonna kids keep making the right

1527
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:30,880
Speaker 1: picks for for the New York Giants, and I think

1528
01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:33,519
Speaker 1: we I atview, we should go defense with the next

1529
01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:36,280
Speaker 1: two picks. In my opinion, with the scheme change, we

1530
01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:39,479
Speaker 1: need the linebackers, we need the corners. Um. But I'm

1531
01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:42,719
Speaker 1: I am completely happy. I really I was nervous about

1532
01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:44,360
Speaker 1: the Barkley pick. I was happy with it, but I

1533
01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:46,840
Speaker 1: was nervous about it because if you don't have the line,

1534
01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:49,640
Speaker 1: what what what does it matter? But now when you

1535
01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:52,599
Speaker 1: look at from left all the way to right guard,

1536
01:15:52,760 --> 01:15:56,080
Speaker 1: I am content with what we have and and and

1537
01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:58,120
Speaker 1: I just think we need an answer right tackle, and

1538
01:15:58,200 --> 01:16:00,360
Speaker 1: you know, I just trust gentleman. I feel like he

1539
01:16:00,439 --> 01:16:02,960
Speaker 1: might pull something in the late round. You know, David

1540
01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:05,559
Speaker 1: Deal was the right tackle who was the late round pick,

1541
01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:09,160
Speaker 1: and the left tackle and the guard and a lot

1542
01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:14,040
Speaker 1: of other things too. He was here the utility man.

1543
01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:16,400
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm excuming happy with this drive. I haven't

1544
01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:21,280
Speaker 1: walked away this excited from just from to pick in

1545
01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:24,800
Speaker 1: a long time. So that's great. And the guy, thank

1546
01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:27,360
Speaker 1: you for all the honor. Cover appreciate, no, thank you, stars,

1547
01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:30,000
Speaker 1: appreciate the call with us. And I think made a

1548
01:16:30,040 --> 01:16:31,880
Speaker 1: couple of good points there. And we kind of talked

1549
01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:34,719
Speaker 1: about the hypothetical effect. We asked multiple guests this question

1550
01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:37,480
Speaker 1: over the course of our three months of draft preparation,

1551
01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:40,160
Speaker 1: and this is the question we asked, would you rather

1552
01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:43,360
Speaker 1: have Quentin Nelson and the running back at the top

1553
01:16:43,400 --> 01:16:45,680
Speaker 1: of the second round, which could be Darius Guys or

1554
01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:47,880
Speaker 1: Nick Trump. Take your pick. It's turned out to drop.

1555
01:16:47,960 --> 01:16:50,280
Speaker 1: Would you rather have, say, Kwon Barkley and the offensive

1556
01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:52,120
Speaker 1: lineman you can get in the top of the second round,

1557
01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:54,559
Speaker 1: which turned out that people Hernandez. Now the big question

1558
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:56,840
Speaker 1: there and what did I tell you what offensive lineman

1559
01:16:56,840 --> 01:16:58,880
Speaker 1: would be available, what running back would be available? What

1560
01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:01,240
Speaker 1: did I tell you? I would take Barkley and the

1561
01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:05,400
Speaker 1: offensive lineman over whoever the other combination, knowing what we

1562
01:17:05,479 --> 01:17:08,080
Speaker 1: know now with who was available, that was the right move,

1563
01:17:08,479 --> 01:17:10,919
Speaker 1: No question about. You got Hernandez and you got Barkley.

1564
01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:14,240
Speaker 1: Those are two excellent players. And that was a calculation

1565
01:17:14,280 --> 01:17:16,160
Speaker 1: that I don't think Dave Gentleman made. He said, you

1566
01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:18,040
Speaker 1: don't want to get too cute and think too far ahead.

1567
01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:19,640
Speaker 1: But we have an hour to fill every day and

1568
01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:22,519
Speaker 1: bigole kick off lives, so that's what we do. So

1569
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:25,400
Speaker 1: I think that was an interesting dynamic and they ended

1570
01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:28,200
Speaker 1: up you know, I think they made the right decision there.

1571
01:17:28,240 --> 01:17:30,080
Speaker 1: I want to say about what the last callers said,

1572
01:17:30,360 --> 01:17:34,560
Speaker 1: Hins making his confidence at pick number forty two overall.

1573
01:17:34,920 --> 01:17:37,639
Speaker 1: Mike Kasicki, the Penn State tight end, who's a heck

1574
01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:40,920
Speaker 1: of a pass receiver, but not as much on the

1575
01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:43,800
Speaker 1: blocking shide. Not really. He hasn't really been asked to.

1576
01:17:43,840 --> 01:17:46,080
Speaker 1: He's kind of been split out wide. But yeah, he's

1577
01:17:46,120 --> 01:17:48,880
Speaker 1: also one of the many Penn State players their strength

1578
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:51,320
Speaker 1: and conditioning program. He blew the combine up with his numbers,

1579
01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:53,720
Speaker 1: that is true. But but his lack of blocking was

1580
01:17:53,720 --> 01:17:56,200
Speaker 1: one of the reasons that Barkley got so criticized for

1581
01:17:56,320 --> 01:17:58,800
Speaker 1: trying to get too fancy because they weren't getting a

1582
01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:01,000
Speaker 1: lot of blocking off the edge. Didn't do that much

1583
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:02,920
Speaker 1: of that. But one thing I want to say to

1584
01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:05,400
Speaker 1: the caller who just hung up, he's talking about the

1585
01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:09,040
Speaker 1: confidence in gettleman, Well, I want to tell I want

1586
01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:10,920
Speaker 1: to tell you there's one thing that he has already

1587
01:18:10,920 --> 01:18:15,200
Speaker 1: shown in these first two picks that should enhance your confidence.

1588
01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:20,639
Speaker 1: He is committed, he is assertive, and as John said,

1589
01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:23,920
Speaker 1: he's not gonna play games and get too fancy. Because

1590
01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:25,840
Speaker 1: both times the Giants were on the clock in the

1591
01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:29,080
Speaker 1: first two rounds, he did not hesitate. He knew what

1592
01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:31,439
Speaker 1: he wanted. He shot that bow and arrow and he

1593
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:34,400
Speaker 1: hit the bull's eye. He's not goofing around, he's not

1594
01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:37,960
Speaker 1: playing games. He's not taking phone calls. He told us

1595
01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:40,200
Speaker 1: the other day when I was five years old, and

1596
01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:42,400
Speaker 1: I lied and I got burned for it, and I

1597
01:18:42,520 --> 01:18:44,800
Speaker 1: never lied again because I just don't lie. I'm not

1598
01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:48,759
Speaker 1: didn't playing smoke screens. Dave Gettleman sees what he wants

1599
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:51,120
Speaker 1: and he goes and gets it, and you can have

1600
01:18:51,120 --> 01:18:53,000
Speaker 1: a lot of confidence in that that's true. But at

1601
01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:54,519
Speaker 1: the same time, I do think he was open to

1602
01:18:54,600 --> 01:18:57,479
Speaker 1: moves like if yesterday he got a great trade offer

1603
01:18:57,520 --> 01:18:58,920
Speaker 1: for number two, he would have listened to it, he

1604
01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:00,840
Speaker 1: would have considered it, and he got a great trade

1605
01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:04,360
Speaker 1: off at four o'clock today forty You can't refuge. But

1606
01:19:04,439 --> 01:19:05,800
Speaker 1: you know, but you said he made the point. He's

1607
01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:08,200
Speaker 1: not making phone calls. He's he is listening to people.

1608
01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:10,479
Speaker 1: I don't think he's He said to us that he

1609
01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:12,680
Speaker 1: got phone calls for the two. He never said he

1610
01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:16,000
Speaker 1: made any right. But I just don't want fans to

1611
01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:18,320
Speaker 1: misunderstand you and think that he was making these picks

1612
01:19:18,360 --> 01:19:20,879
Speaker 1: no matter what. He's someone that does believe in maintaining

1613
01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:24,960
Speaker 1: their flexibility. Without question, his ears were open, but he

1614
01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:27,639
Speaker 1: was not picking up the phone dialing people. At least

1615
01:19:28,240 --> 01:19:31,680
Speaker 1: my impression from everything he has told us is that

1616
01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:34,559
Speaker 1: he was always willing to listen due diligence, but he

1617
01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:37,640
Speaker 1: was not picking up the phone. He was going to

1618
01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:40,120
Speaker 1: uh to be a sort of what it was he

1619
01:19:40,160 --> 01:19:45,000
Speaker 1: wanted to do. Have a Detroit Lions a trade. Patriots

1620
01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:47,360
Speaker 1: had gotten this pick from the forty nine ers. I

1621
01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:49,360
Speaker 1: believe this is the pick they acquired in the Jimmy

1622
01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:52,439
Speaker 1: Garoppolo trick. I'm not mistaken. And now the Lions have

1623
01:19:52,479 --> 01:19:55,960
Speaker 1: gotten it from New England. Shockingly, h New England traded

1624
01:19:55,960 --> 01:19:57,559
Speaker 1: a draft pick. We haven't seen that before. I don't

1625
01:19:57,560 --> 01:20:00,559
Speaker 1: think right, but they moved down. Once we the details

1626
01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:02,080
Speaker 1: of the trade will get it to you, and when

1627
01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:03,559
Speaker 1: most you have the Lion's pick will get that to

1628
01:20:03,640 --> 01:20:06,840
Speaker 1: you as well. I believe Nicholas and Pennsylvania has been

1629
01:20:06,840 --> 01:20:13,920
Speaker 1: holding the longest. Let's go to him next. What's up? Nick? Hello? Hello? Hey?

1630
01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:16,519
Speaker 1: Do you know what the next water thicket is? Because

1631
01:20:17,240 --> 01:20:23,760
Speaker 1: I'm basically called or I don't think that's I don't

1632
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:27,040
Speaker 1: you know, to be honest with you, Uh, these were

1633
01:20:27,160 --> 01:20:31,160
Speaker 1: not difficult with the Giants picking so high and understanding

1634
01:20:31,200 --> 01:20:35,800
Speaker 1: that value met need. Uh you know, it wasn't that

1635
01:20:35,880 --> 01:20:38,000
Speaker 1: hard for me to nail this and so once me

1636
01:20:38,040 --> 01:20:39,960
Speaker 1: and you were in complete agreement on both these picks

1637
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:41,800
Speaker 1: on what we thought the Giants would do. I think

1638
01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:43,439
Speaker 1: we were all on the same page. To be honest

1639
01:20:43,479 --> 01:20:46,720
Speaker 1: with you, it's crazy. It's gonna be a lot tougher

1640
01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:49,519
Speaker 1: when we get to the third round. Those two picks

1641
01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:52,200
Speaker 1: are that are in the first handful, That's when it's

1642
01:20:52,200 --> 01:20:54,280
Speaker 1: gonna get a little bit more difficult. And that's why

1643
01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:57,040
Speaker 1: Dave Gentleman is getting the big box because he needs

1644
01:20:57,080 --> 01:20:59,840
Speaker 1: to make hits on the next few picks as well.

1645
01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:02,280
Speaker 1: It's a lot easier to get one in two when

1646
01:21:02,280 --> 01:21:04,880
Speaker 1: you're picking so high, but to get the productivity out

1647
01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:06,479
Speaker 1: of the next few rounds, it's gonna be tough. What

1648
01:21:06,520 --> 01:21:12,240
Speaker 1: else you got, Nicholas, No friends like thirty seven in

1649
01:21:12,280 --> 01:21:16,920
Speaker 1: the league. Thought all right, Nicholas, thanks for the calling, man,

1650
01:21:16,920 --> 01:21:18,200
Speaker 1: do me a favor if you want to call back,

1651
01:21:18,200 --> 01:21:21,439
Speaker 1: that's cool. Keep makes you. Then whatever is going on

1652
01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:22,880
Speaker 1: in the background, let you if you had this on

1653
01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:25,800
Speaker 1: speaker or whatever, just make sure you clean that up.

1654
01:21:25,800 --> 01:21:27,439
Speaker 1: We'll we'll, we'll be happy to put you back up.

1655
01:21:27,439 --> 01:21:29,880
Speaker 1: And Nate Burlson is at the podium ready to make

1656
01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:32,479
Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions picks that looks like the old every

1657
01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:36,479
Speaker 1: um Eddie Murphy jacket that you study war in um

1658
01:21:36,680 --> 01:21:41,920
Speaker 1: uh Beverly Little Stop. Yeah, oh that's right. Yeah, I

1659
01:21:42,040 --> 01:21:45,479
Speaker 1: love that movie. Don't do that please. I believe Will

1660
01:21:45,479 --> 01:21:47,559
Speaker 1: Hernandez will be coming on with us shortly, and just

1661
01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:49,360
Speaker 1: want to keep your breast of that, folks, And we

1662
01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:50,840
Speaker 1: hope to try to have the two third round picks

1663
01:21:50,840 --> 01:21:52,800
Speaker 1: you haveter we make those selections across our fingers. We're

1664
01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:54,920
Speaker 1: gonna do our best. And Nate Burlson is making quite

1665
01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:56,320
Speaker 1: the speech because he wasn't up there a while and

1666
01:21:56,360 --> 01:21:57,800
Speaker 1: they still haven't put the name of the pick up.

1667
01:21:58,200 --> 01:22:00,439
Speaker 1: Does he though he also played for the Viking, because

1668
01:22:00,520 --> 01:22:03,000
Speaker 1: right now he's acting like a lifelong lion. Yes, well,

1669
01:22:03,040 --> 01:22:04,680
Speaker 1: I think the Lines were his last team, Am I

1670
01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:07,840
Speaker 1: right about that? I believe so. But he did play

1671
01:22:07,920 --> 01:22:10,160
Speaker 1: several years with a guy. I think he still thinks

1672
01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:12,320
Speaker 1: he's hosting Good Morning Football. He's but that for ten minutes.

1673
01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:14,120
Speaker 1: Maybe he wants to get there all the way to

1674
01:22:14,160 --> 01:22:17,519
Speaker 1: the morning and then it will be he's trying to

1675
01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:19,479
Speaker 1: steal the stage like Drew Pearson did last year. And

1676
01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:22,880
Speaker 1: he made that pick. Yeah, exactly, Just so you're aware

1677
01:22:22,880 --> 01:22:25,360
Speaker 1: of the Lions are picking at number forty three. Giants

1678
01:22:25,400 --> 01:22:28,320
Speaker 1: have picks number sixty six and sixty nine. So we

1679
01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:31,160
Speaker 1: got quite a bit of ways as Oh, carry on

1680
01:22:31,240 --> 01:22:35,160
Speaker 1: Johnson running back out of Auburn, who again, folks, he

1681
01:22:35,360 --> 01:22:38,759
Speaker 1: is one of those guys in the second cluster after

1682
01:22:39,479 --> 01:22:42,479
Speaker 1: Blakeley that we've talked about now for several months since

1683
01:22:42,520 --> 01:22:45,639
Speaker 1: the combine. There's there's probably five or six running backs

1684
01:22:46,080 --> 01:22:50,080
Speaker 1: who are who are tightly grouped together in that second cluster.

1685
01:22:50,160 --> 01:22:52,320
Speaker 1: He's not many of them left for shot. Penny's gone,

1686
01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:55,360
Speaker 1: carry On, Johnson's gone, Ronald Jones has gone, Nick Chubb

1687
01:22:55,439 --> 01:22:58,439
Speaker 1: is gone, which tells me you're looking at Darius Guys

1688
01:22:59,600 --> 01:23:03,559
Speaker 1: and I think that's the last one. If I'm not mistaken, Paul,

1689
01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:06,040
Speaker 1: I'm not missing anyone, am I. No, he's He's the

1690
01:23:06,080 --> 01:23:08,559
Speaker 1: next one in the cluster. After that, there's a little

1691
01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:11,200
Speaker 1: bit of a break. Hines is a scat back on

1692
01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:14,120
Speaker 1: a full timer. He's another level down, And we talked

1693
01:23:14,120 --> 01:23:16,160
Speaker 1: about it that you could get a top running back

1694
01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:17,639
Speaker 1: to the top of the second round. That turned out

1695
01:23:17,640 --> 01:23:21,160
Speaker 1: to be true. Um, unless unless Darius Guys doesn't pull

1696
01:23:21,240 --> 01:23:24,120
Speaker 1: the parachute and pick up somewhere here. There isn't gonna

1697
01:23:24,120 --> 01:23:26,760
Speaker 1: be an every down starting caliber running back available at

1698
01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:29,120
Speaker 1: the top round three. The way this is going in

1699
01:23:29,240 --> 01:23:32,920
Speaker 1: one to three, four, five, we've had eleven picks here

1700
01:23:33,560 --> 01:23:37,799
Speaker 1: in the second round. We've now had three running backs taken,

1701
01:23:38,760 --> 01:23:42,720
Speaker 1: and we've had four offensive linemen taken, and we've had

1702
01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:45,320
Speaker 1: two linebackers taken along with one wide receiver and a

1703
01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:48,559
Speaker 1: tight end. That's pretty good. Well, you know, John, I

1704
01:23:48,560 --> 01:23:51,599
Speaker 1: will tell you one thing, um a lot of what

1705
01:23:51,640 --> 01:23:53,960
Speaker 1: we had learned to combine. And by the way, folks,

1706
01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:55,519
Speaker 1: if you did get a chance to watch our combined

1707
01:23:55,520 --> 01:23:57,920
Speaker 1: shows from Indianapolis, we had a blast. We hope you

1708
01:23:58,000 --> 01:23:59,800
Speaker 1: did too. Yeah, and we invite you to do it

1709
01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:02,280
Speaker 1: next year. If you missed them this year, please try

1710
01:24:02,280 --> 01:24:04,880
Speaker 1: to watch them next year. Because we really took out

1711
01:24:04,880 --> 01:24:07,160
Speaker 1: the shovels and dug deep and and tried to get

1712
01:24:07,200 --> 01:24:10,519
Speaker 1: as many draft experts as possible who were all there.

1713
01:24:10,520 --> 01:24:13,280
Speaker 1: It's like an NFL Conventions of I mean, and and

1714
01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:16,519
Speaker 1: we really felt so well prepared after coming back from

1715
01:24:16,520 --> 01:24:19,280
Speaker 1: Indy and a lot of what we learned is coming

1716
01:24:19,280 --> 01:24:21,479
Speaker 1: to the forefront here this weekend. And we got to

1717
01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:22,880
Speaker 1: I got to go to the Senior Bowl for the

1718
01:24:22,880 --> 01:24:24,320
Speaker 1: first time this year. That was a lot of fun.

1719
01:24:24,320 --> 01:24:26,960
Speaker 1: I learned a lot about these prospects in January that

1720
01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:30,320
Speaker 1: I usually wouldn't figure out until I got to the combine. So, uh,

1721
01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:32,040
Speaker 1: if you haven't checked out our draft covers before, and

1722
01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:33,760
Speaker 1: make sure you can even go back and look at

1723
01:24:33,760 --> 01:24:35,360
Speaker 1: the archives if you want. Not sure it's gonna help

1724
01:24:35,400 --> 01:24:38,120
Speaker 1: you now that the drafts could be complete tomorrow, but uh,

1725
01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:41,120
Speaker 1: I'm telling you we try to do our best to

1726
01:24:41,280 --> 01:24:44,120
Speaker 1: get you ready so you're not surprised by some of

1727
01:24:44,120 --> 01:24:47,320
Speaker 1: the names you're hearing here in round two. And these

1728
01:24:47,320 --> 01:24:49,000
Speaker 1: are the guys that we've talked about a lot over

1729
01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:51,519
Speaker 1: the course of the year. So it's uh, just something

1730
01:24:51,560 --> 01:24:53,320
Speaker 1: that if you like the draft, that this is fun

1731
01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:55,560
Speaker 1: for you. Big Blue Can Golf Live definitely gets you

1732
01:24:55,600 --> 01:24:58,240
Speaker 1: all the draft coverage you would want. The Niners pick

1733
01:24:58,360 --> 01:25:01,360
Speaker 1: is in at forty or this is a pick they

1734
01:25:01,640 --> 01:25:05,439
Speaker 1: m acquired in a trade, I believe yesterday um in

1735
01:25:05,439 --> 01:25:07,960
Speaker 1: in some way, shape or form. So we'll get that

1736
01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:09,639
Speaker 1: pick for you when we have a second We should

1737
01:25:09,640 --> 01:25:11,400
Speaker 1: be joined by Will Hernandez in a moment as well.

1738
01:25:11,479 --> 01:25:14,880
Speaker 1: And by the way, folks, remember tomorrow in rounds four, five,

1739
01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:16,960
Speaker 1: and then six and seven. All of the Giants don't

1740
01:25:16,960 --> 01:25:19,679
Speaker 1: have six and seventh round picks. We will be back

1741
01:25:19,720 --> 01:25:21,800
Speaker 1: here on Giants dot com Big Blue kick off live

1742
01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:24,639
Speaker 1: starting at eleven thirty a m. Eastern time. Third day

1743
01:25:24,640 --> 01:25:27,479
Speaker 1: of draft coverage here on Giants dot Com. We invite

1744
01:25:27,479 --> 01:25:29,439
Speaker 1: you to definitely check us out there as well. All right,

1745
01:25:29,479 --> 01:25:31,719
Speaker 1: and now let's bring in the Giants second round pick.

1746
01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:38,000
Speaker 1: He is Will Hernandez from the University of Texas El Paso, Utah.

1747
01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:40,559
Speaker 1: Will you got John Schmulkin Paul to you know inside

1748
01:25:40,560 --> 01:25:44,080
Speaker 1: the Giants facility in East weather Frond, New Jersey. Congratulations

1749
01:25:44,080 --> 01:25:47,400
Speaker 1: and welcome to Big Blue. Oh, thank you so much.

1750
01:25:47,479 --> 01:25:50,559
Speaker 1: I'm I'm excited. I'm excited to get there. Will. The

1751
01:25:50,600 --> 01:25:53,040
Speaker 1: first thing that anybody says when they look at your

1752
01:25:53,040 --> 01:25:57,120
Speaker 1: tape is that you're big, You're strong, you're powerful. Your

1753
01:25:57,240 --> 01:26:00,920
Speaker 1: male people are on the offensive line. Dave Gentleman likes

1754
01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:04,360
Speaker 1: to talk about the hog Molly's in the trenches. To

1755
01:26:04,479 --> 01:26:07,759
Speaker 1: find out that you are one of his prized hog mollies.

1756
01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:12,160
Speaker 1: What does that mean to you? I mean, damn, I

1757
01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:15,000
Speaker 1: think every football player should be described as that. But

1758
01:26:15,600 --> 01:26:18,120
Speaker 1: no I mean, it means everything to me that you know,

1759
01:26:18,280 --> 01:26:21,679
Speaker 1: people actually you know, washed me and think think highly

1760
01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:23,800
Speaker 1: of me. Uh, it just makes you want to step

1761
01:26:23,880 --> 01:26:26,720
Speaker 1: up even more. You know. Well, my my, my introduction

1762
01:26:26,760 --> 01:26:29,200
Speaker 1: to you was at the Senior Bowl, and I did

1763
01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:31,040
Speaker 1: not know a lot about you before I showed up there.

1764
01:26:31,280 --> 01:26:33,400
Speaker 1: And the minute I saw the offensive line, Droe's out

1765
01:26:33,400 --> 01:26:35,360
Speaker 1: sitting in the end zone watching you do your drills

1766
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:38,799
Speaker 1: and you just watch and you go, wow, he plays

1767
01:26:38,840 --> 01:26:41,960
Speaker 1: with the attitude you want um from an offensive lineman.

1768
01:26:41,960 --> 01:26:44,679
Speaker 1: What is it about the position that gets you going

1769
01:26:44,760 --> 01:26:48,479
Speaker 1: and really impassions you to play the game. But you

1770
01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:51,400
Speaker 1: know what, first, it's it's a sport of football on

1771
01:26:51,439 --> 01:26:53,759
Speaker 1: it by itself, you know, I take it very seriously.

1772
01:26:53,800 --> 01:26:56,320
Speaker 1: It's something that's completely you know that just as of

1773
01:26:56,400 --> 01:26:58,840
Speaker 1: today has changed my entire life. And so I've always

1774
01:26:58,880 --> 01:27:01,400
Speaker 1: taken in with that serious this. Uh, it's more than

1775
01:27:01,439 --> 01:27:02,920
Speaker 1: a game to me. It's just not a game I

1776
01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:04,800
Speaker 1: have phone with. They don't get me wrong, but it

1777
01:27:04,920 --> 01:27:07,840
Speaker 1: just means so much to me. So, you know, not

1778
01:27:07,880 --> 01:27:10,439
Speaker 1: only pull my weight for the team, but have everybody

1779
01:27:10,439 --> 01:27:13,160
Speaker 1: come together and make something good happen. That's why it's

1780
01:27:13,200 --> 01:27:15,920
Speaker 1: ultimate teams for and and I'm in love with the sport.

1781
01:27:16,920 --> 01:27:19,240
Speaker 1: That's a great answer drive for me. That's what drives

1782
01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:21,320
Speaker 1: for me to play like that every single slap and

1783
01:27:21,439 --> 01:27:23,640
Speaker 1: will you know, and I don't think a lot of

1784
01:27:23,680 --> 01:27:25,479
Speaker 1: people being from you tep. You guys had a rough

1785
01:27:25,560 --> 01:27:27,880
Speaker 1: year last year. I knew really who you were before

1786
01:27:27,920 --> 01:27:30,639
Speaker 1: that Senior Bowl. How important was that event for you

1787
01:27:30,720 --> 01:27:34,120
Speaker 1: in this process to get on people's radar against some

1788
01:27:34,160 --> 01:27:36,759
Speaker 1: of the other best prospects in the country, to show

1789
01:27:36,800 --> 01:27:39,240
Speaker 1: what you could do against other great players on the

1790
01:27:39,360 --> 01:27:44,320
Speaker 1: field with helmets and pads on where you're the most comfortable. Well,

1791
01:27:44,439 --> 01:27:46,120
Speaker 1: you know what, I knew it was gonna it was

1792
01:27:46,160 --> 01:27:49,160
Speaker 1: part of the process. Especially being from a smaller school.

1793
01:27:49,400 --> 01:27:51,560
Speaker 1: I knew that I wasn't gonna get the same recognition

1794
01:27:51,600 --> 01:27:53,760
Speaker 1: as somebody else had a bigger school out of one

1795
01:27:53,800 --> 01:27:55,679
Speaker 1: of the power of five school so it was really

1796
01:27:55,720 --> 01:27:58,599
Speaker 1: important for me to get noticed. I did everything I could.

1797
01:27:58,680 --> 01:28:00,880
Speaker 1: I played as hard as I could every matt, so

1798
01:28:01,160 --> 01:28:05,120
Speaker 1: you know, coaches and scouts would would notice me somehow. Um,

1799
01:28:05,160 --> 01:28:07,000
Speaker 1: you know, it's funny. It was one of the reasons too,

1800
01:28:07,000 --> 01:28:08,880
Speaker 1: why I put the Neir goal on. It was something

1801
01:28:08,920 --> 01:28:12,920
Speaker 1: that differentiated me and something that stood out, So I

1802
01:28:12,960 --> 01:28:15,000
Speaker 1: wanted to that that was that was my goal. I

1803
01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:18,080
Speaker 1: knew it wasn't just based on recognition and people knowing

1804
01:28:18,120 --> 01:28:20,280
Speaker 1: who you are that gets you to the next level.

1805
01:28:20,320 --> 01:28:22,080
Speaker 1: But I knew it was part of the process and

1806
01:28:22,080 --> 01:28:25,200
Speaker 1: I knew I needed it. So, um, yeah, that's that's

1807
01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:28,080
Speaker 1: what I did. Well, it is important to me. Let

1808
01:28:28,080 --> 01:28:30,800
Speaker 1: me build off of what you just said about understanding.

1809
01:28:30,840 --> 01:28:33,519
Speaker 1: You didn't play for one of the Power Conferences and

1810
01:28:33,560 --> 01:28:35,400
Speaker 1: so a lot of people may have overlooked you a

1811
01:28:35,479 --> 01:28:38,240
Speaker 1: little bit. As you make the transition into the National

1812
01:28:38,280 --> 01:28:41,320
Speaker 1: Football League as a rookie, what do you believe you're

1813
01:28:41,360 --> 01:28:44,120
Speaker 1: going to have to do to make as quick an

1814
01:28:44,120 --> 01:28:48,840
Speaker 1: impact as possible on the New York Giants. Well, first,

1815
01:28:48,840 --> 01:28:50,679
Speaker 1: I gotta be able to protect you know, I gotta

1816
01:28:50,720 --> 01:28:53,160
Speaker 1: be able to protect elive. I gotta come out with

1817
01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:55,519
Speaker 1: the same attitude that got me here. I gotta give

1818
01:28:55,600 --> 01:28:58,759
Speaker 1: him exactly everything that you know, everything that's the reason

1819
01:28:58,880 --> 01:29:01,559
Speaker 1: that they're drafting me for give him that and more

1820
01:29:01,920 --> 01:29:05,680
Speaker 1: build off of that, you know. But and will, I

1821
01:29:05,720 --> 01:29:08,800
Speaker 1: think what some people don't realize is you played in

1822
01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:12,120
Speaker 1: a pretty pro style system to you tap, so how

1823
01:29:12,160 --> 01:29:14,720
Speaker 1: well prepared do you think you're gonna be for the

1824
01:29:14,760 --> 01:29:16,759
Speaker 1: type of game that waits for you in the NFL

1825
01:29:16,840 --> 01:29:20,519
Speaker 1: because of the offense you ran it, Utap, you know

1826
01:29:20,600 --> 01:29:22,960
Speaker 1: that's that was the best part about being at un type.

1827
01:29:23,000 --> 01:29:25,960
Speaker 1: I got to play for Sean Cooler, coach, a great coach,

1828
01:29:26,000 --> 01:29:30,200
Speaker 1: former NFL coach and current NFL coach now. Um and

1829
01:29:30,520 --> 01:29:34,040
Speaker 1: he you know, he made it. He made it exactly

1830
01:29:34,600 --> 01:29:37,400
Speaker 1: what almost the NFL is now. So I got to

1831
01:29:37,479 --> 01:29:39,760
Speaker 1: learn a lot, even though without a smaller school, I

1832
01:29:39,800 --> 01:29:41,840
Speaker 1: got to learn so much from him. And not just

1833
01:29:41,880 --> 01:29:45,280
Speaker 1: saying but coach refers to my online position coach. Him

1834
01:29:45,320 --> 01:29:49,200
Speaker 1: and Sean Coolin were really good friends and they have

1835
01:29:49,360 --> 01:29:51,920
Speaker 1: basically the same mentality when it came to football. So

1836
01:29:52,040 --> 01:29:53,719
Speaker 1: the fact that I was able to learn from both

1837
01:29:53,720 --> 01:29:56,040
Speaker 1: of them, um, you know, I think that's what really

1838
01:29:56,040 --> 01:29:58,759
Speaker 1: got me to prepare for the next level for the NFL,

1839
01:29:59,040 --> 01:30:01,560
Speaker 1: and I think I'm gonna be very well what a

1840
01:30:01,640 --> 01:30:04,400
Speaker 1: dead had start. Of course, still ot to learn, but

1841
01:30:04,520 --> 01:30:08,000
Speaker 1: with with a nice had start. Will Hernandez of you,

1842
01:30:08,160 --> 01:30:10,640
Speaker 1: Chap is the Giants second round pick. He joins us

1843
01:30:10,680 --> 01:30:13,800
Speaker 1: here on Big Blue Kick Off Live. Will, what is

1844
01:30:14,000 --> 01:30:17,080
Speaker 1: the thing that gratifies you the most about your game

1845
01:30:17,120 --> 01:30:19,680
Speaker 1: As an offensive lineman. You just mentioned Eli Manning, you

1846
01:30:19,680 --> 01:30:22,040
Speaker 1: want to protect him. That's a great thing for an

1847
01:30:22,040 --> 01:30:24,720
Speaker 1: old lineman to do. To block for somebody like say

1848
01:30:24,840 --> 01:30:28,080
Speaker 1: Kwan Barkley is probably going to get your juices flowing

1849
01:30:28,120 --> 01:30:30,760
Speaker 1: as well. I would imagine as an old lineman you

1850
01:30:30,880 --> 01:30:34,600
Speaker 1: love to make pancake blocks. What what is the aspect

1851
01:30:34,680 --> 01:30:37,400
Speaker 1: of the game that you enjoy the most, that gives

1852
01:30:37,400 --> 01:30:41,120
Speaker 1: you the most gratification you know, well, of course, like

1853
01:30:41,200 --> 01:30:43,200
Speaker 1: you said, I gotta protect and I gotta be able

1854
01:30:43,200 --> 01:30:45,439
Speaker 1: to open up poles. That just comes with the job.

1855
01:30:45,800 --> 01:30:49,120
Speaker 1: But what it really gets me excited is being able

1856
01:30:49,120 --> 01:30:51,200
Speaker 1: to connect with the rest of the old lineman and

1857
01:30:51,240 --> 01:30:53,920
Speaker 1: work together. You know. Also the line as a security

1858
01:30:54,439 --> 01:30:57,000
Speaker 1: everything has to come together and work exactly the same

1859
01:30:57,560 --> 01:30:59,800
Speaker 1: all throughout. If there's one little scene that goes wrong,

1860
01:31:00,040 --> 01:31:02,920
Speaker 1: offens blind is long. So the fact that we have

1861
01:31:03,000 --> 01:31:05,559
Speaker 1: to come together and work together to make you know,

1862
01:31:05,640 --> 01:31:09,880
Speaker 1: to to have a good a good team going going

1863
01:31:09,920 --> 01:31:13,120
Speaker 1: on is what really gets me excited. And you know,

1864
01:31:13,360 --> 01:31:16,559
Speaker 1: I I'm really close with the office the linement back

1865
01:31:16,600 --> 01:31:18,160
Speaker 1: at you just have to actually most of them are

1866
01:31:18,200 --> 01:31:20,840
Speaker 1: here and you know, I can't wait to get to

1867
01:31:20,880 --> 01:31:23,120
Speaker 1: know these guys and need them, and you know, weren't

1868
01:31:23,160 --> 01:31:25,439
Speaker 1: with them, And I feel like that's the best part

1869
01:31:25,479 --> 01:31:28,479
Speaker 1: about FOS, that bond you made with with the teammates.

1870
01:31:28,840 --> 01:31:32,599
Speaker 1: Will final question, You're coming to New York, the big city,

1871
01:31:33,800 --> 01:31:36,879
Speaker 1: all the lights, and you're also coming with se Kwon Barkley,

1872
01:31:37,080 --> 01:31:38,760
Speaker 1: a guy that you get to pave the way for.

1873
01:31:39,479 --> 01:31:41,120
Speaker 1: Just what do you think the experience is gonna be

1874
01:31:41,120 --> 01:31:42,800
Speaker 1: like and what are you most looking forward to getting

1875
01:31:42,840 --> 01:31:45,599
Speaker 1: up here to New York, meeting your teammates and blocking

1876
01:31:45,640 --> 01:31:49,000
Speaker 1: for a guy like Barkley, who the Giants took last night. Oh,

1877
01:31:49,240 --> 01:31:51,600
Speaker 1: I already know about that this experience is gonna be

1878
01:31:51,640 --> 01:31:55,080
Speaker 1: awesome because I'm going to the New York China, great fans,

1879
01:31:55,080 --> 01:31:58,320
Speaker 1: amazing fans, the coaching staff I got to meet back

1880
01:31:58,360 --> 01:32:00,800
Speaker 1: when I went on my on my thirty dirty visit,

1881
01:32:01,160 --> 01:32:02,880
Speaker 1: you know, So I already know that I have a

1882
01:32:02,880 --> 01:32:05,840
Speaker 1: great coach and a great family behind me. So I

1883
01:32:05,960 --> 01:32:08,799
Speaker 1: know that this is gonna be great and I'm excited

1884
01:32:08,840 --> 01:32:12,599
Speaker 1: to go for it. Will we look forward to meeting you. Congratulations.

1885
01:32:12,880 --> 01:32:15,920
Speaker 1: I'm sure your family must be absolutely thrilled. I know

1886
01:32:15,960 --> 01:32:18,760
Speaker 1: the Giants are thrilled as well, and their fans. They're

1887
01:32:18,760 --> 01:32:20,920
Speaker 1: looking forward to seeing you. Thank you so much, thank

1888
01:32:20,960 --> 01:32:24,400
Speaker 1: you well, thank you, and we'll see in a couple

1889
01:32:24,439 --> 01:32:26,880
Speaker 1: of days. That's Will Hernandez, the newest member of the

1890
01:32:26,880 --> 01:32:30,639
Speaker 1: New York Football Giants. Guard Out of you tep in folks,

1891
01:32:30,640 --> 01:32:31,920
Speaker 1: if you don't know what he was talking about. At

1892
01:32:31,920 --> 01:32:35,120
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl, he wore one of those old school

1893
01:32:35,320 --> 01:32:38,639
Speaker 1: neck rolls and if you go back to like Carl

1894
01:32:38,680 --> 01:32:41,120
Speaker 1: Banks in the eighties used to wear the big neck

1895
01:32:41,240 --> 01:32:45,920
Speaker 1: roll and it just makes you look so intimidating and

1896
01:32:46,040 --> 01:32:48,840
Speaker 1: it's funny. And I didn't I didn't realize he didn't

1897
01:32:48,880 --> 01:32:55,480
Speaker 1: wear that when he was but it's funny and he understood.

1898
01:32:55,479 --> 01:32:58,360
Speaker 1: And we talked about the Senior Bowl being important for

1899
01:32:58,400 --> 01:33:00,320
Speaker 1: small school guys, and he gave the end there. He

1900
01:33:00,400 --> 01:33:03,599
Speaker 1: knows that and he stood out and that's why, well

1901
01:33:03,600 --> 01:33:05,759
Speaker 1: it's not that's why the Giants watched him on tape anyway,

1902
01:33:06,000 --> 01:33:07,640
Speaker 1: but it's something that I think kind of put the

1903
01:33:07,680 --> 01:33:09,920
Speaker 1: spotlight on him a little bit. Being one of the

1904
01:33:09,920 --> 01:33:13,960
Speaker 1: most dominant players against players that went to USC and

1905
01:33:14,080 --> 01:33:17,760
Speaker 1: Ohio state Power Conference schools, and he was at there

1906
01:33:17,760 --> 01:33:20,320
Speaker 1: tossing these guys around from a team that didn't win

1907
01:33:20,320 --> 01:33:23,120
Speaker 1: a game last year at Utah, and he showed up

1908
01:33:23,280 --> 01:33:25,519
Speaker 1: and he impressed a lot of people. Check the boxes,

1909
01:33:25,840 --> 01:33:29,320
Speaker 1: you know, you check the boxes. Clean, medical, terrific player,

1910
01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:34,559
Speaker 1: terrific attitude, good teammate. I mean, it's a really really

1911
01:33:34,760 --> 01:33:39,120
Speaker 1: terrific value and need pick for Dave Gettleman. And now

1912
01:33:39,400 --> 01:33:41,639
Speaker 1: they move on and look to the two picks they'll

1913
01:33:41,640 --> 01:33:43,080
Speaker 1: have in the th round. Look, he was just a

1914
01:33:43,160 --> 01:33:45,559
Speaker 1: three star recruit. He came as a defensive tackle, moved

1915
01:33:45,560 --> 01:33:47,960
Speaker 1: to the offensive tackle. And the answer that I loved

1916
01:33:47,960 --> 01:33:50,360
Speaker 1: the most, and I wasn't even fishing for the answer.

1917
01:33:50,360 --> 01:33:54,559
Speaker 1: He just gave it his love and passion for the game.

1918
01:33:54,720 --> 01:33:57,479
Speaker 1: Or you could hear it because the offensive line, you're

1919
01:33:57,520 --> 01:34:01,040
Speaker 1: not getting bouquets throwing at you. You're not a glamor guy.

1920
01:34:01,080 --> 01:34:05,200
Speaker 1: It's something that you make other people look good. And

1921
01:34:05,240 --> 01:34:07,400
Speaker 1: in order to do that every day and take the

1922
01:34:07,439 --> 01:34:11,200
Speaker 1: beating and offensive lineman does you gotta love it? That

1923
01:34:11,320 --> 01:34:13,599
Speaker 1: kid just based on how he signed on the phone

1924
01:34:13,600 --> 01:34:15,000
Speaker 1: with us, and because it might be the best day

1925
01:34:15,040 --> 01:34:16,559
Speaker 1: of his life he just got drafted. I expect him

1926
01:34:16,560 --> 01:34:20,640
Speaker 1: to be happy. But boy, he loves football, and he

1927
01:34:20,760 --> 01:34:22,960
Speaker 1: made sure that he let us know that he loves football.

1928
01:34:23,040 --> 01:34:25,920
Speaker 1: He is like a buzz saw. He takes trees down

1929
01:34:26,080 --> 01:34:29,599
Speaker 1: and flattens him. Folks, if you haven't gotten a chance

1930
01:34:29,720 --> 01:34:32,360
Speaker 1: to see him play, and I'm sure you saw some

1931
01:34:32,400 --> 01:34:35,479
Speaker 1: of the highlights during the draft shows, please get a

1932
01:34:35,520 --> 01:34:39,560
Speaker 1: look at at his play online number seventy six offensive

1933
01:34:39,600 --> 01:34:42,719
Speaker 1: lineman left guard for you tip get a look online.

1934
01:34:42,840 --> 01:34:46,559
Speaker 1: Call up that video, check out the highlights. He is

1935
01:34:46,840 --> 01:34:54,719
Speaker 1: a defensive players nightmare. He really is. All right. Two, um,

1936
01:34:54,800 --> 01:34:56,600
Speaker 1: let's take the guys we have on hold here, I

1937
01:34:56,640 --> 01:34:58,840
Speaker 1: got three callers on hold. We're gonna talk to you again.

1938
01:34:58,920 --> 01:35:00,360
Speaker 1: More reaction the Wild Herd, and then is then we're

1939
01:35:00,360 --> 01:35:02,559
Speaker 1: gonna go, and we're gonna roll back the interview I

1940
01:35:02,600 --> 01:35:05,479
Speaker 1: did with Penn State head coach James Franklin a little

1941
01:35:05,520 --> 01:35:08,880
Speaker 1: bit earlier today talking about s Kwon Barkley. And then

1942
01:35:08,920 --> 01:35:11,800
Speaker 1: we'll get to Jonah Toll's previewing the Giants picks at

1943
01:35:11,800 --> 01:35:14,000
Speaker 1: the top of round three. Let's go to coach Marvin

1944
01:35:14,240 --> 01:35:18,839
Speaker 1: online one. Coach Marvin, what's up? How you doing? Hey Marvin,

1945
01:35:18,920 --> 01:35:21,559
Speaker 1: good to talk to you again. Yeah, I haven't talked

1946
01:35:21,600 --> 01:35:24,400
Speaker 1: to you guys in a little bit. Uh, I've been

1947
01:35:24,439 --> 01:35:28,280
Speaker 1: traveling a little bit, but come back now. UM. Happy

1948
01:35:28,360 --> 01:35:32,200
Speaker 1: with with the job that Mr Gentleman has done. UM,

1949
01:35:32,280 --> 01:35:34,000
Speaker 1: I would love to be one of the ones to

1950
01:35:34,080 --> 01:35:38,439
Speaker 1: coach a team like this. Three wins last year, and

1951
01:35:38,520 --> 01:35:41,719
Speaker 1: what he's putting together is the outstand And I would

1952
01:35:41,720 --> 01:35:44,679
Speaker 1: love a coach a team like this and and Prague

1953
01:35:44,680 --> 01:35:48,599
Speaker 1: in and make them hungry for losing three games. How

1954
01:35:49,439 --> 01:35:52,320
Speaker 1: you could get those guys to work this year? Coach Marvin,

1955
01:35:52,320 --> 01:35:55,120
Speaker 1: could I ask you a question if you don't mind, No,

1956
01:35:55,280 --> 01:35:58,519
Speaker 1: I don't mind. If you were this team and you

1957
01:35:58,640 --> 01:36:02,720
Speaker 1: added I say, Kwan Barkley into that backfield, the versatile

1958
01:36:02,760 --> 01:36:05,679
Speaker 1: offensive weapon that he is, and a guy like Will

1959
01:36:05,760 --> 01:36:10,960
Speaker 1: Hernandez who brings such beef to the trenches. Uh, what

1960
01:36:10,960 --> 01:36:14,000
Speaker 1: what kind of mentality? What kind of style of offense

1961
01:36:14,280 --> 01:36:16,720
Speaker 1: would you like to implement? I mean it seems to

1962
01:36:16,760 --> 01:36:19,240
Speaker 1: me this is these are the kinds of additions that

1963
01:36:19,280 --> 01:36:22,000
Speaker 1: will help the Giants control tempo and impose their will

1964
01:36:22,040 --> 01:36:25,439
Speaker 1: on the opposition. UM. I mean this is the kind

1965
01:36:25,439 --> 01:36:27,479
Speaker 1: of team I kind of had the way we was

1966
01:36:27,680 --> 01:36:30,840
Speaker 1: coaching in the when I was coaching in Boston. UM,

1967
01:36:30,880 --> 01:36:34,000
Speaker 1: we're a physical team. So a team that he's putting

1968
01:36:34,040 --> 01:36:37,200
Speaker 1: together that I see kind of what I'd like is

1969
01:36:37,640 --> 01:36:41,160
Speaker 1: no matter you know what we're trying to do, the

1970
01:36:41,240 --> 01:36:44,280
Speaker 1: question is can you stop us. When I was coaching

1971
01:36:44,760 --> 01:36:48,760
Speaker 1: and we would have scrimmages and um in August, I

1972
01:36:48,800 --> 01:36:52,240
Speaker 1: would actually walk along the line of scrimmage by my

1973
01:36:52,240 --> 01:36:54,720
Speaker 1: team was in the huddle and I would tell I

1974
01:36:54,720 --> 01:36:57,000
Speaker 1: would whisper to the other team. Their coach said, no,

1975
01:36:57,479 --> 01:36:59,720
Speaker 1: I will whisper to the other team what our play

1976
01:36:59,760 --> 01:37:05,240
Speaker 1: well us beautiful. I wanted this absolutely beautiful. I wanted

1977
01:37:05,280 --> 01:37:08,400
Speaker 1: to see if my team can be physical with a

1978
01:37:08,479 --> 01:37:11,679
Speaker 1: team that knew what we wanted to do. How would

1979
01:37:11,680 --> 01:37:14,160
Speaker 1: we react if they knew what we were doing, if

1980
01:37:14,160 --> 01:37:18,000
Speaker 1: they can jump that gap before we get there? And

1981
01:37:18,040 --> 01:37:20,240
Speaker 1: I wanted to see how those kids react to that

1982
01:37:20,360 --> 01:37:22,599
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. And I you know, I never told

1983
01:37:22,640 --> 01:37:25,920
Speaker 1: the kids until the season started that I did that

1984
01:37:26,040 --> 01:37:28,920
Speaker 1: to them. And I made sure they played with one

1985
01:37:28,960 --> 01:37:32,360
Speaker 1: hand tied behind their back until we got into the

1986
01:37:32,439 --> 01:37:36,280
Speaker 1: last couple of simats before our season open. Then I

1987
01:37:36,320 --> 01:37:39,120
Speaker 1: wanted to really see what we were when I untied

1988
01:37:39,160 --> 01:37:42,960
Speaker 1: those hands and allowed them to play. And that's how

1989
01:37:43,000 --> 01:37:45,519
Speaker 1: we went into the season very physical. He sees building

1990
01:37:45,560 --> 01:37:48,880
Speaker 1: a physical team someone like Barkley. And what we ran

1991
01:37:49,000 --> 01:37:51,920
Speaker 1: was a motion offense. Um that's what I called it

1992
01:37:52,160 --> 01:37:54,600
Speaker 1: because what happens when we was playing, A lot of

1993
01:37:54,640 --> 01:37:59,200
Speaker 1: teams don't recognize when kids are moving around and when

1994
01:37:59,200 --> 01:38:01,240
Speaker 1: they go in most so they never knew who was

1995
01:38:01,240 --> 01:38:03,960
Speaker 1: in motion. And the kid liked Barkley. What I could do.

1996
01:38:04,040 --> 01:38:05,720
Speaker 1: I could put him in the backfield and I can

1997
01:38:05,840 --> 01:38:08,080
Speaker 1: hurt him. And I had one like that he played with.

1998
01:38:08,400 --> 01:38:11,320
Speaker 1: Uh he played with Victor Cruz at you mask named

1999
01:38:11,360 --> 01:38:15,000
Speaker 1: Jonathan Hernandez. You should look at this. I know of him.

2000
01:38:15,120 --> 01:38:19,120
Speaker 1: I told you about him, and I coached him, and um,

2001
01:38:19,120 --> 01:38:20,840
Speaker 1: I actually was the first one to put him in

2002
01:38:20,880 --> 01:38:24,719
Speaker 1: the backfield and uh he I used to utilize them

2003
01:38:24,760 --> 01:38:27,599
Speaker 1: in a way that Barkley could be utilized, put them

2004
01:38:27,640 --> 01:38:30,080
Speaker 1: in motion where they thought we had him in the backfield.

2005
01:38:30,320 --> 01:38:32,080
Speaker 1: A lot of times the defense couldn't have just that

2006
01:38:32,160 --> 01:38:35,040
Speaker 1: they didn't know what we had going on at the time.

2007
01:38:35,479 --> 01:38:37,439
Speaker 1: So a lot of times we did a lot with

2008
01:38:37,479 --> 01:38:40,360
Speaker 1: those kind of players. And uh, it's a great pick.

2009
01:38:40,920 --> 01:38:43,760
Speaker 1: I mentioned that to you before the free agency. I

2010
01:38:43,840 --> 01:38:46,160
Speaker 1: always went for Barkley a lot of people say were

2011
01:38:46,320 --> 01:38:49,280
Speaker 1: their offensive line. I wasn't talking about the officer line

2012
01:38:49,280 --> 01:38:52,519
Speaker 1: he had last year. If he the office line in

2013
01:38:52,640 --> 01:38:56,360
Speaker 1: free agency and then the draft, it all justified the

2014
01:38:56,400 --> 01:39:01,120
Speaker 1: pick of Barkley, and that's what exactly he is. I'm

2015
01:39:01,160 --> 01:39:04,519
Speaker 1: so proud of them. Set me here. I am so

2016
01:39:04,640 --> 01:39:09,000
Speaker 1: proud of this organization, Todd. We'll always been proud of them. Um,

2017
01:39:09,040 --> 01:39:12,840
Speaker 1: they are classy organization. But today it's unbelievable what this

2018
01:39:12,880 --> 01:39:17,280
Speaker 1: guy has done in this period of time. He still

2019
01:39:17,320 --> 01:39:19,439
Speaker 1: got more to do. Thank you for the call, buddy.

2020
01:39:19,439 --> 01:39:21,519
Speaker 1: We appreciated great stuff. And you're one of our very

2021
01:39:21,560 --> 01:39:24,560
Speaker 1: knowledgeable and and and very good cars we have and

2022
01:39:24,720 --> 01:39:27,160
Speaker 1: and we thank you for joining us on the Friday

2023
01:39:27,280 --> 01:39:29,080
Speaker 1: edition of Big Blue Kickoff Live. At the Draft, some

2024
01:39:29,120 --> 01:39:31,800
Speaker 1: picks went down since we last spoke. I think the

2025
01:39:31,840 --> 01:39:33,519
Speaker 1: last one I gave you was the carry and Johnson

2026
01:39:33,520 --> 01:39:36,080
Speaker 1: picked to the Lions. That was at forty three overall,

2027
01:39:36,120 --> 01:39:38,759
Speaker 1: eleventh pick in the second round. Since then, the twelve

2028
01:39:38,880 --> 01:39:41,000
Speaker 1: in the second round, the forty nine are selected. Dante

2029
01:39:41,160 --> 01:39:44,479
Speaker 1: Pettis the wide receiver of Washington. We even talked much

2030
01:39:44,479 --> 01:39:47,360
Speaker 1: about and Paul this he's been hurt through this draft. Process,

2031
01:39:47,680 --> 01:39:51,120
Speaker 1: but good slot receiver, good production this year Joshua Jackson

2032
01:39:52,640 --> 01:39:55,480
Speaker 1: and he went to the forty Niners. Joshua Jackson, cornerback

2033
01:39:55,520 --> 01:39:58,240
Speaker 1: at a Green Bay. That's a nice pick for the

2034
01:39:58,280 --> 01:40:02,920
Speaker 1: Packers at forty fifth in the draft overall, uh in

2035
01:40:02,960 --> 01:40:05,960
Speaker 1: that round and boy, they have a new look secondary Paul.

2036
01:40:06,040 --> 01:40:09,000
Speaker 1: They had Gyr Alexander and round one an excellent cornatic

2037
01:40:10,240 --> 01:40:13,679
Speaker 1: and they have Joshua Jackson of Iowa. Those are two

2038
01:40:14,000 --> 01:40:17,560
Speaker 1: good football players. So you think the Packers trying to

2039
01:40:17,600 --> 01:40:20,240
Speaker 1: rebuild their defense a little bit. There it is, and

2040
01:40:20,280 --> 01:40:25,360
Speaker 1: the Chiefs selected Brelan Speaks, defensive tackle out of Mississippi.

2041
01:40:25,520 --> 01:40:28,000
Speaker 1: So um, that's kind of where we stand right now

2042
01:40:28,320 --> 01:40:32,400
Speaker 1: with Arizona at forty seven, who just selected Christian Kirk

2043
01:40:32,720 --> 01:40:34,800
Speaker 1: wide receiver out of Texas A and M. So a

2044
01:40:34,800 --> 01:40:37,880
Speaker 1: little bit of a mini run on wide receivers here.

2045
01:40:38,200 --> 01:40:41,800
Speaker 1: We've had Courtland Sutton, Dante Pettis, and then Christian Kirk

2046
01:40:41,880 --> 01:40:44,519
Speaker 1: the slot receiver out of Texas slot receiver out of

2047
01:40:44,560 --> 01:40:46,760
Speaker 1: Texas A and M going in the last eight or

2048
01:40:46,800 --> 01:40:49,240
Speaker 1: so picks. And then we won more by the way,

2049
01:40:49,640 --> 01:40:53,920
Speaker 1: channing the Wote Sue who was a potential outside linebacker

2050
01:40:54,000 --> 01:40:56,479
Speaker 1: pass rusher that I thought could have been a target

2051
01:40:56,520 --> 01:41:00,160
Speaker 1: for the Giants, us to go to the sand go

2052
01:41:00,200 --> 01:41:02,320
Speaker 1: to them. I did it, go to the Los Angeles

2053
01:41:02,439 --> 01:41:06,160
Speaker 1: Chargers in the second round of the draft. I'm still

2054
01:41:06,160 --> 01:41:08,519
Speaker 1: doing that, that's all right. Yeah, he was definitely in

2055
01:41:08,520 --> 01:41:11,880
Speaker 1: the cluster coming out of USC and uh good hitter,

2056
01:41:12,000 --> 01:41:16,000
Speaker 1: good tackler, gets to the after the quarterback, like a

2057
01:41:16,080 --> 01:41:18,120
Speaker 1: lot of things that he did. Even though his stats

2058
01:41:18,160 --> 01:41:20,599
Speaker 1: were not gaudy, he was the kind of player who

2059
01:41:20,760 --> 01:41:23,240
Speaker 1: just made his presence felt on the field. I liked

2060
01:41:23,320 --> 01:41:25,320
Speaker 1: him a lot, smart player too, from what you could tell.

2061
01:41:25,400 --> 01:41:27,280
Speaker 1: He was also at the Senior Bowl by the way. Yes, yeah,

2062
01:41:27,280 --> 01:41:28,960
Speaker 1: you got to see him up close. I talked to

2063
01:41:29,040 --> 01:41:31,679
Speaker 1: him for about five minutes actually, because yeah, no question

2064
01:41:31,760 --> 01:41:34,479
Speaker 1: and yeah, I kind of thought early third round would

2065
01:41:34,520 --> 01:41:36,840
Speaker 1: be the the area for him, and he was on

2066
01:41:36,920 --> 01:41:39,400
Speaker 1: my radar for the cluster for the Giants there. But

2067
01:41:39,800 --> 01:41:42,479
Speaker 1: that's not gonna happen now. Lorenzo Karna from Georgia still

2068
01:41:42,479 --> 01:41:44,920
Speaker 1: there though still on the board. We have a trade here.

2069
01:41:44,960 --> 01:41:47,639
Speaker 1: The Eagles have moved up to the forty ninth pick,

2070
01:41:47,680 --> 01:41:50,240
Speaker 1: which has already changed hands I think three times before

2071
01:41:50,360 --> 01:41:53,120
Speaker 1: this trade so now it belongs to the Eagles, who

2072
01:41:53,160 --> 01:41:57,680
Speaker 1: had traded down from the thirty second pick. Remember there

2073
01:41:57,760 --> 01:41:59,439
Speaker 1: was short a couple of picks in this draft because

2074
01:41:59,479 --> 01:42:03,800
Speaker 1: of past trades. They're trying to recoup some of those picks.

2075
01:42:03,800 --> 01:42:05,400
Speaker 1: All right, we got two more calls before we want

2076
01:42:05,400 --> 01:42:07,040
Speaker 1: to get to James frankl the head goes to Penn

2077
01:42:07,040 --> 01:42:09,960
Speaker 1: State to give us some insight on sa Kwon Barkley.

2078
01:42:10,200 --> 01:42:13,080
Speaker 1: Let's go to Doug in Rochester. He's up next. Hey Doug,

2079
01:42:14,320 --> 01:42:17,680
Speaker 1: are you guys doing what's up about? Can you hear

2080
01:42:17,760 --> 01:42:22,519
Speaker 1: me loud? And Claire kill John? And uh good? You

2081
01:42:22,520 --> 01:42:25,200
Speaker 1: gotta do a terrific job. You want to talk about

2082
01:42:25,240 --> 01:42:27,599
Speaker 1: your col Barker, you're talking about the Giants last year

2083
01:42:27,600 --> 01:42:31,280
Speaker 1: and I'll sing rotch. The Giants miss on third ones.

2084
01:42:31,479 --> 01:42:35,160
Speaker 1: They had second and six and they something to kick

2085
01:42:35,240 --> 01:42:37,479
Speaker 1: Colin was horrible and they couldn't even get the first

2086
01:42:37,560 --> 01:42:40,240
Speaker 1: out there on the guard line a couple of times,

2087
01:42:40,320 --> 01:42:43,400
Speaker 1: and you couldn't get into Pombo. So well, I think

2088
01:42:43,479 --> 01:42:46,320
Speaker 1: you cap Barkin is gonna do. He's a change mover there.

2089
01:42:46,439 --> 01:42:48,280
Speaker 1: You can said that it keeps your defense off and

2090
01:42:48,360 --> 01:42:50,720
Speaker 1: kill Pat Sherman said he's gonna keep the defense off

2091
01:42:50,720 --> 01:42:53,400
Speaker 1: the field kind of position. I think Paul you said

2092
01:42:53,439 --> 01:42:56,200
Speaker 1: something about that, and you got the kid the great

2093
01:42:56,280 --> 01:42:58,920
Speaker 1: time possession, and that's what he's gonna do for the Giant.

2094
01:42:59,360 --> 01:43:02,720
Speaker 1: He's gonna be same movie. That's that's keep deferens. He

2095
01:43:03,040 --> 01:43:05,960
Speaker 1: really had time picked down the row last year and

2096
01:43:06,000 --> 01:43:08,800
Speaker 1: he's gonna make a difference in that. And that's what

2097
01:43:08,880 --> 01:43:12,519
Speaker 1: that day so well, think about any short yardage or

2098
01:43:12,640 --> 01:43:15,880
Speaker 1: for that matter, goal line attack when you can run

2099
01:43:15,960 --> 01:43:22,160
Speaker 1: behind Will Hernandez. I mean, that's a very imposing set

2100
01:43:22,439 --> 01:43:28,160
Speaker 1: that you can throw at a defense. That's right following

2101
01:43:30,280 --> 01:43:32,960
Speaker 1: a lot of those times, he an't sad looking at it,

2102
01:43:33,040 --> 01:43:36,240
Speaker 1: but now he's there is a game changer. And I'm

2103
01:43:36,280 --> 01:43:39,800
Speaker 1: gonna leave at this question to you, John and fall Um.

2104
01:43:40,000 --> 01:43:42,559
Speaker 1: Has never been a team that went through the thirteen

2105
01:43:42,680 --> 01:43:44,880
Speaker 1: or some kind of record like that with the Super

2106
01:43:44,920 --> 01:43:48,559
Speaker 1: Bowl wanted the next year. Well, Jacksonville had just won

2107
01:43:48,680 --> 01:43:51,320
Speaker 1: three games two years ago and then advanced far into

2108
01:43:51,360 --> 01:43:54,559
Speaker 1: the playoffs this season. I think that may have been

2109
01:43:54,560 --> 01:43:58,120
Speaker 1: the biggest turnaround. I don't know what for Super Bowl winners,

2110
01:43:58,240 --> 01:44:01,200
Speaker 1: what's the worst record the year, but dark that it's

2111
01:44:01,280 --> 01:44:04,479
Speaker 1: not three and thirteen. I don't know what it is. Yeah,

2112
01:44:04,600 --> 01:44:07,360
Speaker 1: I would imagine it's six or seven. Maybe. Yeah, I've

2113
01:44:07,360 --> 01:44:11,200
Speaker 1: never researched that status hesitate to comment on it. But again,

2114
01:44:11,479 --> 01:44:14,479
Speaker 1: if you're just looking for the possibilities, the Jaguars showed

2115
01:44:14,520 --> 01:44:18,479
Speaker 1: you what is possible by going from three wins to

2116
01:44:18,560 --> 01:44:21,080
Speaker 1: a couple of playoff rounds, and and if that just

2117
01:44:21,120 --> 01:44:25,040
Speaker 1: happened this year, so obviously it's possible. Thank you, Doug,

2118
01:44:30,920 --> 01:44:34,360
Speaker 1: I mean honestly, Doug. And and again thanks, I think

2119
01:44:34,920 --> 01:44:38,240
Speaker 1: I think you're shocked when any team wins the Super Bowl.

2120
01:44:38,200 --> 01:44:39,720
Speaker 1: There's this thirty two of them and only one can

2121
01:44:39,760 --> 01:44:42,360
Speaker 1: win it. I'm serious, Like, even if you look at

2122
01:44:42,360 --> 01:44:44,519
Speaker 1: the odds on these things, even the team that is

2123
01:44:44,560 --> 01:44:47,120
Speaker 1: the best odds, there's still crumby odds to win the

2124
01:44:47,160 --> 01:44:49,040
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. It's just a really tough thing to do.

2125
01:44:49,120 --> 01:44:53,240
Speaker 1: It's really, really hard. I appreciate his enthusiasm. The final

2126
01:44:53,320 --> 01:44:56,280
Speaker 1: fifty three hasn't even been announced yet, so I'm not

2127
01:44:56,360 --> 01:44:59,559
Speaker 1: gonna jump the gun at all. I will simply say

2128
01:44:59,600 --> 01:45:02,479
Speaker 1: to you, the Giants are a better team today than

2129
01:45:02,520 --> 01:45:04,200
Speaker 1: they were at the end of last season. I don't

2130
01:45:04,200 --> 01:45:06,000
Speaker 1: think there's any doubt about there a lot of parody

2131
01:45:06,000 --> 01:45:09,320
Speaker 1: in the league. Anything can happen. So, guys, Giant's gonna

2132
01:45:09,320 --> 01:45:11,040
Speaker 1: make a playoff un next year. And once you're in

2133
01:45:11,040 --> 01:45:15,639
Speaker 1: the playoffs, anything had happened. Ben and Dayton, He's up next.

2134
01:45:15,640 --> 01:45:19,080
Speaker 1: What's up? Ben? Hey, how's it going well? First thing

2135
01:45:19,080 --> 01:45:21,000
Speaker 1: I have to say is, oh my god, I get

2136
01:45:21,080 --> 01:45:24,280
Speaker 1: to be on the air with you, guys, my two

2137
01:45:24,360 --> 01:45:27,880
Speaker 1: favorite from Big Blue. You're making me blush. Ben, You're

2138
01:45:27,960 --> 01:45:32,559
Speaker 1: very kind. Thank you for calling. I mean, I mean, John,

2139
01:45:32,600 --> 01:45:38,800
Speaker 1: I love you, I adore you. Okay, Lancey doesn't like that.

2140
01:45:40,080 --> 01:45:41,920
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, I hope you saved some

2141
01:45:42,000 --> 01:45:45,880
Speaker 1: of that for Jeff Eagles. I understand, Lanz. Jeff is

2142
01:45:45,920 --> 01:45:50,759
Speaker 1: my favorite as far as when it's paired with John,

2143
01:45:51,560 --> 01:45:55,680
Speaker 1: with doing you know who you know who played with

2144
01:45:55,760 --> 01:46:00,680
Speaker 1: Jeff Eagles. That's a fun game game. Thank you. But

2145
01:46:00,960 --> 01:46:05,559
Speaker 1: PAULI love you. You love for the trenches. And I'm

2146
01:46:05,600 --> 01:46:09,960
Speaker 1: an old school guy. I mean, I'm forty, but I

2147
01:46:10,000 --> 01:46:14,280
Speaker 1: remember growing up in the era of true Giants football,

2148
01:46:14,520 --> 01:46:19,479
Speaker 1: when they was just smack mouth. We destroyed them. You know.

2149
01:46:19,600 --> 01:46:23,840
Speaker 1: I missed the power back, I miss having the offensive

2150
01:46:24,000 --> 01:46:28,240
Speaker 1: bog Molly's and I love the Wilhern and hiss rate

2151
01:46:28,800 --> 01:46:34,240
Speaker 1: or pick. I love the pick of Barklay. Now we

2152
01:46:34,240 --> 01:46:39,840
Speaker 1: gotta get some some linebackers. That's because that's what we're missing. Yeah,

2153
01:46:39,920 --> 01:46:42,120
Speaker 1: there's no doubt that would be one of the thin

2154
01:46:42,240 --> 01:46:44,519
Speaker 1: areas that I think the Giants would like to come

2155
01:46:44,560 --> 01:46:48,479
Speaker 1: away with, hopefully in the third round. But if the

2156
01:46:48,560 --> 01:46:50,439
Speaker 1: value is not there, you know, they're gonna have to

2157
01:46:50,479 --> 01:46:53,679
Speaker 1: wait to understand. I understand. You know, Carter is still

2158
01:46:53,720 --> 01:46:56,200
Speaker 1: on the board, Baker is still on the board. I mean,

2159
01:46:56,280 --> 01:47:00,880
Speaker 1: these these guys are both solid third round values if

2160
01:47:00,920 --> 01:47:03,360
Speaker 1: they're still floating around by the time the Giants get

2161
01:47:03,360 --> 01:47:05,960
Speaker 1: around to pick it again, I know. I mean, I'm

2162
01:47:06,000 --> 01:47:07,880
Speaker 1: parts of the corner because that's what I played in

2163
01:47:07,960 --> 01:47:13,240
Speaker 1: high school. However, I love linebackers ring I grew up

2164
01:47:13,400 --> 01:47:16,080
Speaker 1: with Lawrence Teleby in my adult I mean, come on,

2165
01:47:17,240 --> 01:47:20,200
Speaker 1: I get you. Well, you'll like you'll like, You'll like

2166
01:47:20,320 --> 01:47:22,639
Speaker 1: the guy they picked up by named alec Ogul Tree

2167
01:47:22,720 --> 01:47:25,120
Speaker 1: from the Rams. Trust me, he's a very active player,

2168
01:47:25,800 --> 01:47:29,760
Speaker 1: very active play, and I thought it was a nice,

2169
01:47:30,080 --> 01:47:36,000
Speaker 1: nice step in the right direction. I but I want more, Okay,

2170
01:47:36,400 --> 01:47:40,320
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with that, you know, I just want more. Um,

2171
01:47:41,000 --> 01:47:45,559
Speaker 1: I want to have solidity in our linebacking corps, which

2172
01:47:45,600 --> 01:47:50,120
Speaker 1: we haven't had and which feels like ten years since

2173
01:47:50,160 --> 01:47:56,679
Speaker 1: and since a p had that unfortunate injury, we haven't

2174
01:47:56,720 --> 01:48:02,640
Speaker 1: had a real solid linebacker in my opinion, No, no,

2175
01:48:02,800 --> 01:48:05,479
Speaker 1: I and I understand that it's unfortunate that John Beason

2176
01:48:05,640 --> 01:48:07,439
Speaker 1: had so many intervieties by the time he got to

2177
01:48:07,479 --> 01:48:10,200
Speaker 1: the Giants, because he could have been a really good player.

2178
01:48:10,240 --> 01:48:18,200
Speaker 1: For that he's great, but availability on the field dictates

2179
01:48:18,560 --> 01:48:21,160
Speaker 1: he's not up to park. Now you have Alacobo Tree, though,

2180
01:48:21,200 --> 01:48:23,639
Speaker 1: and he plays games man. He's on the field, he

2181
01:48:23,760 --> 01:48:25,960
Speaker 1: and he gets to the ball and he hits and

2182
01:48:26,200 --> 01:48:29,000
Speaker 1: it's gonna it's gonna be when he was on the field,

2183
01:48:29,200 --> 01:48:32,000
Speaker 1: but his availability on the field was so limited and

2184
01:48:32,120 --> 01:48:35,360
Speaker 1: no doubt. All right, Ben, thank you, buddy, hurt me

2185
01:48:35,920 --> 01:48:37,960
Speaker 1: appreciate the call, Ben, Thank you. The Eagles, by the way,

2186
01:48:38,000 --> 01:48:40,160
Speaker 1: trade up in front of the Dallas Cowboys to take

2187
01:48:40,200 --> 01:48:43,519
Speaker 1: a tight end with Jason went announcing his retirement that

2188
01:48:43,560 --> 01:48:46,439
Speaker 1: there was something you think tight end, it's a Dakota

2189
01:48:46,520 --> 01:48:48,360
Speaker 1: State play him with Zach Arts when he got you

2190
01:48:48,360 --> 01:48:50,519
Speaker 1: got a pretty good tight end combination, by the way,

2191
01:48:50,760 --> 01:48:52,320
Speaker 1: and now the Cowboys are on the clock. We'll give

2192
01:48:52,360 --> 01:48:54,320
Speaker 1: you that pick before we get probably by the way

2193
01:48:54,400 --> 01:48:59,720
Speaker 1: up there with the commissioner. Great great defensive tackle, early seventies. Yes,

2194
01:48:59,800 --> 01:49:01,760
Speaker 1: she get drafted in late sixties. Wasn't just early said,

2195
01:49:01,760 --> 01:49:04,120
Speaker 1: oh he was, he was there, believe in the late sixties.

2196
01:49:04,160 --> 01:49:07,400
Speaker 1: It's a Hall of famer. Yes, excellent, excellent defensive lineman.

2197
01:49:07,400 --> 01:49:09,080
Speaker 1: He's gonna be up there with his family making the

2198
01:49:09,120 --> 01:49:11,559
Speaker 1: pick there well of that Cowboys pick before we go

2199
01:49:11,600 --> 01:49:14,080
Speaker 1: to the interview with James Franklin, the Penn State head coach.

2200
01:49:14,080 --> 01:49:15,719
Speaker 1: I got to spend some time with him this morning.

2201
01:49:15,880 --> 01:49:17,760
Speaker 1: We talked about se Kwon Barkley. But we want to

2202
01:49:17,760 --> 01:49:19,639
Speaker 1: get the division rivals. We want to get this pick

2203
01:49:19,680 --> 01:49:23,360
Speaker 1: in absolutely before we get to the interview end. The

2204
01:49:23,360 --> 01:49:25,920
Speaker 1: Eagles just took Dallas Goder, tight end at the South

2205
01:49:26,000 --> 01:49:27,519
Speaker 1: Dakota State. He's really one of the guys I think

2206
01:49:27,520 --> 01:49:29,320
Speaker 1: could be a two way tight end. Actually in this

2207
01:49:29,400 --> 01:49:31,320
Speaker 1: in this group, there's really not many of them. Most

2208
01:49:31,320 --> 01:49:34,080
Speaker 1: of them are receiving type tight ends. Like you've mentioned before.

2209
01:49:34,439 --> 01:49:38,680
Speaker 1: He's a guy didn't run the forty in the postseason process,

2210
01:49:38,920 --> 01:49:40,720
Speaker 1: which got people a little bit nervous. You won their

2211
01:49:40,760 --> 01:49:42,360
Speaker 1: health letic. He is out of a small school in

2212
01:49:42,360 --> 01:49:45,240
Speaker 1: South Dakota State, but they think he could be a

2213
01:49:45,280 --> 01:49:48,559
Speaker 1: pretty good two way tight end, you know. And I'm

2214
01:49:48,600 --> 01:49:51,240
Speaker 1: not trying to to to make anything out of it

2215
01:49:51,280 --> 01:49:53,400
Speaker 1: other than to say, whence it's still coming back off

2216
01:49:53,400 --> 01:49:57,200
Speaker 1: a significant injury, and let's see, you know, how quickly

2217
01:49:57,200 --> 01:49:59,360
Speaker 1: he's able to rehab and get back to a percent.

2218
01:49:59,479 --> 01:50:05,439
Speaker 1: The Cowboy Go offensive line pall and Williams out of Texas. Wow.

2219
01:50:06,080 --> 01:50:08,920
Speaker 1: Not a wide receiver there, which I think would surprise

2220
01:50:09,000 --> 01:50:12,439
Speaker 1: a lot of people. And this is an offensive line

2221
01:50:12,479 --> 01:50:14,800
Speaker 1: that for the last several years has been graded out

2222
01:50:14,840 --> 01:50:17,400
Speaker 1: as one of the better ones in the National Football League.

2223
01:50:17,560 --> 01:50:19,960
Speaker 1: And now they decide to go out and get a

2224
01:50:20,680 --> 01:50:23,160
Speaker 1: left tackle who I don't know if he's gonna tackle

2225
01:50:23,160 --> 01:50:24,559
Speaker 1: a guard for them? What's gonna do. He's not gonna

2226
01:50:24,560 --> 01:50:26,320
Speaker 1: play a left tackle. They got Tyron Smith out there

2227
01:50:26,360 --> 01:50:28,280
Speaker 1: for sure. Well that's the that's the trick. Remember they

2228
01:50:28,320 --> 01:50:31,639
Speaker 1: signed Cameron Fleming to the offensive from the Patriots. But

2229
01:50:31,920 --> 01:50:35,160
Speaker 1: I would I think this signals they're either gonna move

2230
01:50:35,200 --> 01:50:38,000
Speaker 1: Lao Collins inside the guard or are they gonna move

2231
01:50:38,000 --> 01:50:40,120
Speaker 1: Connor Williams inside the guard. I haven't been real happy

2232
01:50:40,160 --> 01:50:43,400
Speaker 1: with Leo Collins lately. Well is he a tackle or guard?

2233
01:50:43,479 --> 01:50:46,040
Speaker 1: Do they know? Does anybody know? And I think they'll

2234
01:50:46,160 --> 01:50:48,240
Speaker 1: figure out if they want Williams a tackle and move

2235
01:50:48,320 --> 01:50:51,120
Speaker 1: Collins to guard or or vice versas. So Cowboys trying

2236
01:50:51,120 --> 01:50:53,800
Speaker 1: to add to a strength. Boy, I'll tell you what,

2237
01:50:53,880 --> 01:50:56,920
Speaker 1: this is gonna be a division that's becoming more and

2238
01:50:56,960 --> 01:51:00,800
Speaker 1: more old school black and blue NFC East Football and

2239
01:51:00,840 --> 01:51:03,599
Speaker 1: it's gonna be fun to watch and the ice John

2240
01:51:03,600 --> 01:51:05,320
Speaker 1: And one of the guys that's gonna contribute to that

2241
01:51:05,320 --> 01:51:07,839
Speaker 1: black and blue football is sa Kwon Barkley, the Giants

2242
01:51:08,200 --> 01:51:11,120
Speaker 1: top running back pack in the draft this year. Went

2243
01:51:11,160 --> 01:51:13,120
Speaker 1: to Penn State. His his coat. His head coach was

2244
01:51:13,200 --> 01:51:15,160
Speaker 1: James Franklin, and I had a chance to talk to

2245
01:51:15,240 --> 01:51:18,920
Speaker 1: him earlier today. And now we're joined by the head

2246
01:51:18,920 --> 01:51:21,759
Speaker 1: coach of the Penn State, Nitney Lyons, James Franklin. James

2247
01:51:22,000 --> 01:51:25,280
Speaker 1: was in Dallas yesterday with st Kwon Barkley. He had

2248
01:51:25,320 --> 01:51:27,519
Speaker 1: a great interview on NFL Network earlier in the day

2249
01:51:27,560 --> 01:51:29,880
Speaker 1: as well. James, you got John Schmilk here and he's Rutherford,

2250
01:51:29,920 --> 01:51:36,120
Speaker 1: New Jersey. How are you today? Hey? We appreciate you

2251
01:51:36,160 --> 01:51:38,439
Speaker 1: coming on to talk about the Giants second overall pick

2252
01:51:38,439 --> 01:51:42,719
Speaker 1: in the draft, and Sa Kwon Barkley obviously an impact player.

2253
01:51:42,840 --> 01:51:44,799
Speaker 1: And I think we talked to a lot of scouts

2254
01:51:44,800 --> 01:51:46,559
Speaker 1: over the course of this show in the last month,

2255
01:51:46,600 --> 01:51:49,679
Speaker 1: and the way Dan Shanko, a former NFL scout described

2256
01:51:49,760 --> 01:51:54,200
Speaker 1: him to me was he's a weapon. Why do you

2257
01:51:54,280 --> 01:51:57,280
Speaker 1: think Sa Kwon Barkley on offense and even on special

2258
01:51:57,280 --> 01:52:01,360
Speaker 1: teams is such a weapon. Well, the only person that's

2259
01:52:01,400 --> 01:52:04,759
Speaker 1: happier than James Franklin right now is is Eli Manning.

2260
01:52:05,160 --> 01:52:07,680
Speaker 1: Is uh. He got a guy that's going to be

2261
01:52:07,720 --> 01:52:10,920
Speaker 1: a tremendous teammate. He's gonna be unbelievable in the locker room.

2262
01:52:10,960 --> 01:52:13,720
Speaker 1: But I think back to your point, there is you know,

2263
01:52:13,800 --> 01:52:16,000
Speaker 1: in today's day and age, the way the way you

2264
01:52:16,080 --> 01:52:17,920
Speaker 1: use a running back is not just line them up

2265
01:52:17,920 --> 01:52:20,360
Speaker 1: in the iron, hand him the ball thirty times the game.

2266
01:52:20,439 --> 01:52:23,479
Speaker 1: It's it's using him as a runner, it's using him

2267
01:52:24,000 --> 01:52:26,439
Speaker 1: out of the backfield as as a as a receiver,

2268
01:52:27,080 --> 01:52:29,120
Speaker 1: free releasing him. It's lining him up in the slot

2269
01:52:29,120 --> 01:52:31,960
Speaker 1: and creating matchups. And he can do all those things.

2270
01:52:32,040 --> 01:52:35,200
Speaker 1: You know, He's also been a dynamic kickoff return guy.

2271
01:52:35,920 --> 01:52:38,200
Speaker 1: But he's a guy that that understands, you know, the

2272
01:52:38,240 --> 01:52:40,120
Speaker 1: more things that he can do to bring value to

2273
01:52:40,120 --> 01:52:43,880
Speaker 1: the organization than um, you know, the bigger impact he's

2274
01:52:43,920 --> 01:52:45,360
Speaker 1: going to have. And that's how we used him at

2275
01:52:45,400 --> 01:52:49,479
Speaker 1: Penn State. So he's smart, he's thoughtful, he's caring, he's

2276
01:52:49,479 --> 01:52:53,080
Speaker 1: going unbelievable teammates have great in the community. He's gonna

2277
01:52:53,120 --> 01:52:54,800
Speaker 1: make your locker room better to day steps in it.

2278
01:52:55,120 --> 01:52:57,320
Speaker 1: All Right, Well, let's let's take his skills one by one.

2279
01:52:57,360 --> 01:52:59,160
Speaker 1: Let's start at the running game before we get back

2280
01:52:59,160 --> 01:53:01,479
Speaker 1: to to the path asking attack. I thought you had

2281
01:53:01,479 --> 01:53:05,160
Speaker 1: an interesting quote yesterday on NFL Network because I watched

2282
01:53:05,160 --> 01:53:07,120
Speaker 1: a lot of his twenty seventeen film and he ran

2283
01:53:07,200 --> 01:53:09,160
Speaker 1: mostly out of the shotgun. But you talked on NFL

2284
01:53:09,160 --> 01:53:11,880
Speaker 1: Network about how when he first got there, used him

2285
01:53:11,880 --> 01:53:14,280
Speaker 1: a lot out of the I formation. So I guess

2286
01:53:14,320 --> 01:53:17,040
Speaker 1: my question is how versatile is he in terms of scheme,

2287
01:53:17,320 --> 01:53:19,559
Speaker 1: in terms of how you use him as a back

2288
01:53:19,600 --> 01:53:23,839
Speaker 1: out of the gun in power zone power? How versatile

2289
01:53:23,920 --> 01:53:25,960
Speaker 1: is he in terms of his running style and adapting

2290
01:53:26,000 --> 01:53:28,880
Speaker 1: to what the giants might want to do. Well, you know,

2291
01:53:28,960 --> 01:53:31,280
Speaker 1: I was, I was with the Green Bay Packers. So

2292
01:53:31,520 --> 01:53:33,840
Speaker 1: I have a West Coast offensive background. That was the

2293
01:53:33,840 --> 01:53:37,000
Speaker 1: offense I ran when I was the offensive coordinator at

2294
01:53:37,040 --> 01:53:41,200
Speaker 1: Maryland and at Kansas State and then at Vanderbilt as well,

2295
01:53:41,240 --> 01:53:42,880
Speaker 1: and then when we first got to Defense State. So

2296
01:53:42,920 --> 01:53:45,720
Speaker 1: he started his career all you know, running a pro

2297
01:53:45,840 --> 01:53:50,479
Speaker 1: style West Coast offense, terminology, protections, all of it. You know,

2298
01:53:50,479 --> 01:53:53,680
Speaker 1: it's a true freshman. He lines up in the backfield

2299
01:53:53,760 --> 01:53:56,519
Speaker 1: behind a quarterback under center, and Russia has far almost

2300
01:53:56,560 --> 01:53:58,920
Speaker 1: two hundred yards against Ohio State the year they won

2301
01:53:58,960 --> 01:54:02,240
Speaker 1: the national championship. So he's gonna he's gonna be a

2302
01:54:02,240 --> 01:54:03,960
Speaker 1: guy that's gonna be able to learn the system, and

2303
01:54:03,960 --> 01:54:07,439
Speaker 1: he's gonna understand concepts, um, and you're gonna be able

2304
01:54:07,439 --> 01:54:09,439
Speaker 1: to use him in so many different ways. And that

2305
01:54:09,600 --> 01:54:12,840
Speaker 1: that's why he's valuable. Um. You know, There's there's been

2306
01:54:12,840 --> 01:54:14,680
Speaker 1: backs that have been big and strong, and there's been

2307
01:54:14,720 --> 01:54:17,200
Speaker 1: backs that have been quick and fast. There's been backs

2308
01:54:17,200 --> 01:54:19,920
Speaker 1: that are great receivers. He's a guy that really has

2309
01:54:19,920 --> 01:54:22,760
Speaker 1: got to check mark in all of those Fox. Yeah,

2310
01:54:22,800 --> 01:54:25,800
Speaker 1: it's funny. Dave Gentleman said yesterday, I think the quote

2311
01:54:25,840 --> 01:54:29,000
Speaker 1: that hit me the most. He said, athletically he has

2312
01:54:29,040 --> 01:54:31,280
Speaker 1: been touched by the hand of God. He has the

2313
01:54:31,560 --> 01:54:35,240
Speaker 1: quick feet of a small guy, but he's two thirty pounds,

2314
01:54:35,240 --> 01:54:38,120
Speaker 1: which is a combination you don't very often see. How

2315
01:54:38,160 --> 01:54:42,800
Speaker 1: does that combination in terms of quickness and size manifested

2316
01:54:43,120 --> 01:54:46,640
Speaker 1: on the football field and the way he carries the football? Well,

2317
01:54:46,720 --> 01:54:48,280
Speaker 1: I think the thing, you know, I've been doing this

2318
01:54:48,360 --> 01:54:51,080
Speaker 1: for twenty four years that I've never really seen anybody

2319
01:54:51,120 --> 01:54:53,640
Speaker 1: like him, and that's including my time in the NFL

2320
01:54:54,200 --> 01:54:56,560
Speaker 1: with the Green Bay Packers. I mean, he's a complete

2321
01:54:56,560 --> 01:54:59,160
Speaker 1: freak show, you know. So you're talking about a guy

2322
01:54:59,240 --> 01:55:01,360
Speaker 1: who can run for power when you need him to

2323
01:55:01,440 --> 01:55:04,560
Speaker 1: on short yardage situations. You know. One of the things

2324
01:55:04,600 --> 01:55:06,480
Speaker 1: that I think he's you know, he's gonna have to,

2325
01:55:06,800 --> 01:55:09,040
Speaker 1: you know, focus on and get better at is he

2326
01:55:09,120 --> 01:55:11,760
Speaker 1: was such a creator for us, you know, and and

2327
01:55:11,880 --> 01:55:14,880
Speaker 1: our line wasn't the strength of our team, you know.

2328
01:55:14,960 --> 01:55:17,360
Speaker 1: So I think in the NFL, you gotta understand, you

2329
01:55:17,440 --> 01:55:19,640
Speaker 1: gotta sometimes you just gotta lower your shoulder and be

2330
01:55:19,680 --> 01:55:22,760
Speaker 1: happy with within the ugly two or three yards and

2331
01:55:22,880 --> 01:55:25,720
Speaker 1: fight for it and stay on schedule. Where he you know,

2332
01:55:25,760 --> 01:55:28,680
Speaker 1: he had a mentality in college every time he touched

2333
01:55:28,680 --> 01:55:30,920
Speaker 1: the ball, he was gonna go for eight. And you know,

2334
01:55:31,680 --> 01:55:33,520
Speaker 1: for us, he did it. He did it a lot,

2335
01:55:33,640 --> 01:55:36,480
Speaker 1: you know, so he had a lot of creativity for us.

2336
01:55:36,480 --> 01:55:38,000
Speaker 1: But I think that's an area that I know he's

2337
01:55:38,000 --> 01:55:40,600
Speaker 1: going to focus on, he's going to grow on, he's

2338
01:55:40,600 --> 01:55:43,760
Speaker 1: gonna grow with. But he just does so many things. Well,

2339
01:55:43,960 --> 01:55:45,920
Speaker 1: that does so many things well, and you're talking about

2340
01:55:45,920 --> 01:55:48,000
Speaker 1: a guy who can run for power, can run for speed,

2341
01:55:48,040 --> 01:55:51,680
Speaker 1: can run for quickness, use them out of the backfield, um,

2342
01:55:51,720 --> 01:55:53,440
Speaker 1: And he takes a lot of pride in being able

2343
01:55:53,440 --> 01:55:55,840
Speaker 1: to protect the quarterback as well. And well, I want

2344
01:55:55,840 --> 01:55:58,000
Speaker 1: to get to that now, because as you well know, coach,

2345
01:55:58,320 --> 01:56:00,640
Speaker 1: you can be a great receiver catching the ball, but

2346
01:56:00,680 --> 01:56:02,800
Speaker 1: if you can't pass protect, you're not getting on the

2347
01:56:02,840 --> 01:56:05,440
Speaker 1: field on third downs in the NFL. You know that

2348
01:56:05,840 --> 01:56:09,280
Speaker 1: everyone here knows that in terms of his past protection.

2349
01:56:09,360 --> 01:56:13,240
Speaker 1: How advanced is he in terms of a recognizing where

2350
01:56:13,240 --> 01:56:15,560
Speaker 1: the blitz is coming from and then be at of

2351
01:56:15,560 --> 01:56:18,120
Speaker 1: course thy pounds being able to take on that blitz

2352
01:56:18,240 --> 01:56:21,800
Speaker 1: and physically handle that defender coming after the quarterback. Well,

2353
01:56:21,840 --> 01:56:24,880
Speaker 1: it's a very similar transition, you know, from high school

2354
01:56:24,920 --> 01:56:27,080
Speaker 1: to college in terms of what I mean is with

2355
01:56:27,280 --> 01:56:29,360
Speaker 1: running backs. That's the area that you know, it is

2356
01:56:29,400 --> 01:56:32,000
Speaker 1: going to determine whether they play early as as as

2357
01:56:32,040 --> 01:56:35,520
Speaker 1: college players as well. So, you know, very similar philosophies.

2358
01:56:35,600 --> 01:56:38,520
Speaker 1: Matt standpoints something that takes great pride, and I mean,

2359
01:56:38,560 --> 01:56:40,880
Speaker 1: the guy can bench whatever you put on the bar.

2360
01:56:41,480 --> 01:56:46,560
Speaker 1: Um plays, plays with great leverage, understands hand placement. Um.

2361
01:56:46,680 --> 01:56:48,839
Speaker 1: And And also you know two years ago, I remember

2362
01:56:48,880 --> 01:56:50,640
Speaker 1: meeting with with say quant at the end of the

2363
01:56:50,720 --> 01:56:52,720
Speaker 1: year and I said, you know, Um, you know the

2364
01:56:52,840 --> 01:56:56,040
Speaker 1: running back that we had seen at Ohio State, Zeke Um.

2365
01:56:56,080 --> 01:56:58,040
Speaker 1: You know, that was the thing that I was impressed

2366
01:56:58,040 --> 01:57:00,720
Speaker 1: when people were talking about him for the draft. It

2367
01:57:00,840 --> 01:57:02,320
Speaker 1: was you know, they're saying he may be one of

2368
01:57:02,360 --> 01:57:05,120
Speaker 1: the best blockers to run a back position to come

2369
01:57:05,120 --> 01:57:08,160
Speaker 1: out and you know ten years uh, And I said,

2370
01:57:08,200 --> 01:57:10,520
Speaker 1: you know, look look at what they're talking about about.

2371
01:57:10,560 --> 01:57:12,800
Speaker 1: You know, this running back at Ohio State and the draft,

2372
01:57:12,840 --> 01:57:14,560
Speaker 1: and this is something that you can be and need

2373
01:57:14,600 --> 01:57:17,160
Speaker 1: to work on. So he's a guy. You tell him

2374
01:57:17,200 --> 01:57:19,680
Speaker 1: something that needs to work on and he tacks it.

2375
01:57:19,960 --> 01:57:22,280
Speaker 1: You know, same thing this offseason talking to him about

2376
01:57:22,360 --> 01:57:24,280
Speaker 1: you know, the passing game, Hey, don't run routes with

2377
01:57:24,320 --> 01:57:26,600
Speaker 1: the running backs the summer, run routes with the receivers

2378
01:57:26,680 --> 01:57:31,560
Speaker 1: all summer long. Get comfortable running receiver routes from out wide. Um,

2379
01:57:31,600 --> 01:57:34,160
Speaker 1: and he did it. And UM, you know that's that's

2380
01:57:34,160 --> 01:57:37,120
Speaker 1: where I think he just kind of understands. I think

2381
01:57:37,160 --> 01:57:39,000
Speaker 1: this generation, a lot of these kids like to just

2382
01:57:39,000 --> 01:57:41,000
Speaker 1: go out and work on the things that they're good at.

2383
01:57:41,040 --> 01:57:45,800
Speaker 1: Where Skauten wants to take weaknesses and turn the ministrings. Well,

2384
01:57:45,800 --> 01:57:48,040
Speaker 1: you know, coach, and you mentioned his route running, and

2385
01:57:48,040 --> 01:57:49,360
Speaker 1: that's where I want to go next. It was a

2386
01:57:49,360 --> 01:57:52,360
Speaker 1: perfect segue. You know, he had more than fifty catches

2387
01:57:52,440 --> 01:57:54,440
Speaker 1: last year, more than six yards. He had more than

2388
01:57:54,480 --> 01:57:57,640
Speaker 1: a thousand yards receiving in his three years at Penn State.

2389
01:57:57,880 --> 01:57:59,600
Speaker 1: And I think when most people think of running backs

2390
01:57:59,600 --> 01:58:01,040
Speaker 1: out of the bat actually think, oh, you know, he'll

2391
01:58:01,080 --> 01:58:02,400
Speaker 1: dump it off and I'll make a couple of guys

2392
01:58:02,440 --> 01:58:05,040
Speaker 1: miss will gained seven eight yards. But Barkley is a

2393
01:58:05,080 --> 01:58:07,520
Speaker 1: guy that you can split out wide, he can run

2394
01:58:07,600 --> 01:58:10,440
Speaker 1: slot routes, he can run wheel routes down the field.

2395
01:58:10,840 --> 01:58:13,320
Speaker 1: How advanced is he in terms of his route running

2396
01:58:13,360 --> 01:58:16,960
Speaker 1: and being a receiver not just a guy that catches

2397
01:58:17,000 --> 01:58:19,840
Speaker 1: dump bossom the quarterback. Yeah, I think he's got a

2398
01:58:19,920 --> 01:58:21,800
Speaker 1: chance to be a weapon there. And I think you know,

2399
01:58:21,920 --> 01:58:24,480
Speaker 1: you have to look at him that way, UM, in

2400
01:58:24,600 --> 01:58:27,480
Speaker 1: terms of your offensive coordinat or your head coach trying

2401
01:58:27,520 --> 01:58:31,200
Speaker 1: to get him UM in favorable situations and in matchups

2402
01:58:31,240 --> 01:58:34,280
Speaker 1: that cause the defense headaches and stress. You know, whether

2403
01:58:34,360 --> 01:58:37,000
Speaker 1: that you know, wheel routes out of the backfield, whether

2404
01:58:37,080 --> 01:58:39,920
Speaker 1: that's lining them up in the slot and and running

2405
01:58:40,000 --> 01:58:42,040
Speaker 1: vertical stuff with him. We would run you know what

2406
01:58:42,080 --> 01:58:44,440
Speaker 1: we call big box, which is like an inside fade

2407
01:58:44,720 --> 01:58:47,920
Speaker 1: matched up against the linebacker or a safety. UM, whether

2408
01:58:48,000 --> 01:58:50,120
Speaker 1: that's line him up in the slot and running you know,

2409
01:58:50,240 --> 01:58:54,240
Speaker 1: mesh routes, rubbed routes, pick routes, those types of things. UM,

2410
01:58:54,280 --> 01:58:56,160
Speaker 1: you know, where you're able to get him matched up

2411
01:58:56,160 --> 01:58:58,600
Speaker 1: with a mic lineback or um. You know we were

2412
01:58:58,640 --> 01:59:00,520
Speaker 1: able to, you know, put him on the size the

2413
01:59:00,600 --> 01:59:04,040
Speaker 1: number one receiver as well. Determine one type of coverage

2414
01:59:04,080 --> 01:59:06,080
Speaker 1: people are in. Are they in man coverage and they're

2415
01:59:06,080 --> 01:59:08,240
Speaker 1: gonna take the bi lineback round of the box and

2416
01:59:08,240 --> 01:59:10,280
Speaker 1: match up. Are they gonna do it with the corner? Well,

2417
01:59:10,320 --> 01:59:11,680
Speaker 1: then if you do it at the corner, and then

2418
01:59:11,720 --> 01:59:14,240
Speaker 1: the number one receiver is now lined up in the slot.

2419
01:59:14,280 --> 01:59:17,720
Speaker 1: Now he's got a favorable situation. So you know, he's

2420
01:59:17,760 --> 01:59:20,520
Speaker 1: really gonna help um, you know, the Giants in so

2421
01:59:20,520 --> 01:59:22,160
Speaker 1: many ways. He's really gonna help you live in so

2422
01:59:22,200 --> 01:59:25,280
Speaker 1: many ways, because here's a guy that you could be

2423
01:59:25,320 --> 01:59:29,040
Speaker 1: creative with, and he's also the best quarterback's best friends.

2424
01:59:29,040 --> 01:59:30,680
Speaker 1: And when you do hit him on the check down,

2425
01:59:30,960 --> 01:59:32,640
Speaker 1: he's got a chance to take it to this And

2426
01:59:32,680 --> 01:59:34,520
Speaker 1: there's nothing better as a quarterback to throw a four

2427
01:59:34,600 --> 01:59:37,440
Speaker 1: yard past to get credit. Freid, no question. We're joined

2428
01:59:37,440 --> 01:59:39,280
Speaker 1: by James frankl head coach, and the neately lines a

2429
01:59:39,320 --> 01:59:41,880
Speaker 1: couple more for him. Talking about the Giants second overall pick,

2430
01:59:42,120 --> 01:59:47,640
Speaker 1: say Kwon Barkley, UM coach. Analytics say the modern ones

2431
01:59:47,720 --> 01:59:50,560
Speaker 1: that maybe the running back position has lost some value

2432
01:59:50,560 --> 01:59:52,800
Speaker 1: and and and and it's a replaceable position. Dave get

2433
01:59:52,840 --> 01:59:56,000
Speaker 1: him in, the Giants general manager last night called that nonsense.

2434
01:59:56,000 --> 01:59:58,240
Speaker 1: He called it a myth. And I think the one

2435
01:59:58,280 --> 02:00:01,520
Speaker 1: thing a lot of these analytics can measure is the

2436
02:00:01,560 --> 02:00:04,440
Speaker 1: impact the presence of a running back on the field

2437
02:00:04,480 --> 02:00:06,360
Speaker 1: has on the rest of the offense. So as a

2438
02:00:06,400 --> 02:00:09,840
Speaker 1: guy that's seen Quan for three years and has seen

2439
02:00:10,600 --> 02:00:12,840
Speaker 1: the impact he has in your offense. What does his

2440
02:00:12,960 --> 02:00:16,560
Speaker 1: presence on the field due to a defense that helps

2441
02:00:16,600 --> 02:00:19,200
Speaker 1: your offense in ways that don't show up in the

2442
02:00:19,320 --> 02:00:22,320
Speaker 1: numbers and in the analytics and in the metrics. Yeah,

2443
02:00:22,480 --> 02:00:25,400
Speaker 1: I think that's they're they're the two most important points.

2444
02:00:25,400 --> 02:00:29,040
Speaker 1: It's not just the raw output of the running back

2445
02:00:29,120 --> 02:00:31,960
Speaker 1: position in the raw numbers and the yards rushing yards

2446
02:00:31,960 --> 02:00:33,920
Speaker 1: and things like that. That's where people missed the boat

2447
02:00:34,280 --> 02:00:36,440
Speaker 1: with Say Kwan and what he did for us. Everybody

2448
02:00:36,480 --> 02:00:39,520
Speaker 1: was so focused on just rushing yardage. The guy impacted

2449
02:00:39,520 --> 02:00:41,560
Speaker 1: the game in so many different ways. So I think

2450
02:00:41,880 --> 02:00:44,720
Speaker 1: you know your GM is exactly right. It's it's going

2451
02:00:44,760 --> 02:00:48,400
Speaker 1: to show up in more than just say Kuans stats.

2452
02:00:48,440 --> 02:00:52,280
Speaker 1: You're gonna see the whole offense um improved based on

2453
02:00:52,400 --> 02:00:54,520
Speaker 1: his presence on the field, you know. I think the

2454
02:00:54,600 --> 02:00:58,200
Speaker 1: other thing is, you know, if you're talking about the

2455
02:00:58,320 --> 02:01:01,520
Speaker 1: back that you've evaluate is on film that you've seen

2456
02:01:01,640 --> 02:01:04,840
Speaker 1: someone similar to this, uh that you could get in

2457
02:01:04,880 --> 02:01:07,840
Speaker 1: around two and three and four. I get it if

2458
02:01:07,840 --> 02:01:10,680
Speaker 1: you've if you've evaluated this running back and he's similar

2459
02:01:10,680 --> 02:01:13,200
Speaker 1: to what you've seen over the last five ten years,

2460
02:01:13,280 --> 02:01:15,480
Speaker 1: and that's fine. But when you see a guy that

2461
02:01:15,560 --> 02:01:17,920
Speaker 1: you feel like is different and from everything I've heard

2462
02:01:17,960 --> 02:01:21,440
Speaker 1: about the GM, his evaluation to say Kwon Barkley is

2463
02:01:21,480 --> 02:01:24,280
Speaker 1: this is something that doesn't come around very often. Absolutely,

2464
02:01:24,600 --> 02:01:28,000
Speaker 1: I think the rules change when you feel so strongly

2465
02:01:28,040 --> 02:01:32,160
Speaker 1: about your evaluation as a of a player, not only physically,

2466
02:01:32,400 --> 02:01:34,840
Speaker 1: but also when you sit down and you talk to

2467
02:01:34,840 --> 02:01:39,240
Speaker 1: to say Klon Barkley, his character is higher, uh than

2468
02:01:39,320 --> 02:01:42,840
Speaker 1: than his film grades are. Yeah, coach, and and that's

2469
02:01:42,840 --> 02:01:44,480
Speaker 1: the final thing I want to touch you touch with

2470
02:01:44,520 --> 02:01:46,280
Speaker 1: you on and that's the off the field stuff he's

2471
02:01:46,320 --> 02:01:48,080
Speaker 1: that's something that you know, I got game film here

2472
02:01:48,080 --> 02:01:50,040
Speaker 1: where I can watch it. But unless you're around the

2473
02:01:50,080 --> 02:01:51,640
Speaker 1: kid every day, you don't know what he brings to

2474
02:01:51,680 --> 02:01:55,160
Speaker 1: the locker room. What are the giants getting in say

2475
02:01:55,280 --> 02:01:57,880
Speaker 1: Kwon Barkley as a person in the locker room and

2476
02:01:57,920 --> 02:02:00,240
Speaker 1: as a worker in the weight room, as this someone

2477
02:02:00,280 --> 02:02:04,520
Speaker 1: that sets a good example for his teammates. Things you know,

2478
02:02:04,560 --> 02:02:08,520
Speaker 1: I don't want to you know, set up unrealistic expectations

2479
02:02:08,560 --> 02:02:11,000
Speaker 1: for say Kwon. He's an unbelievable person and he's an

2480
02:02:11,080 --> 02:02:17,760
Speaker 1: unbelievable player. Still known his mistakes, um, but but I'll

2481
02:02:17,800 --> 02:02:21,560
Speaker 1: tell you what um, it's been a pleasure. It has

2482
02:02:21,600 --> 02:02:25,240
Speaker 1: been a blessing in my life. UM, being around say Kwan.

2483
02:02:25,440 --> 02:02:27,320
Speaker 1: You know how he was with my two daughters. I

2484
02:02:27,360 --> 02:02:29,280
Speaker 1: have a ten year old eleven year old daughter and

2485
02:02:29,960 --> 02:02:34,160
Speaker 1: tremendous mentor tremendous big brother. Um. Great guy in the

2486
02:02:34,200 --> 02:02:38,480
Speaker 1: locker room, great leader, leader through actions and leader verbally

2487
02:02:38,560 --> 02:02:41,320
Speaker 1: as well. UM, guy that never asked for the ball.

2488
02:02:41,480 --> 02:02:43,680
Speaker 1: Never was one of these guys coming to the sideline

2489
02:02:43,720 --> 02:02:45,920
Speaker 1: and upset if he didn't get the ball, you know

2490
02:02:46,000 --> 02:02:48,560
Speaker 1: a certain number of times, not once in four years

2491
02:02:48,560 --> 02:02:51,000
Speaker 1: that he ever asked for the ball. Um. You know.

2492
02:02:51,040 --> 02:02:53,000
Speaker 1: So you're just talking about a guy that you know

2493
02:02:53,160 --> 02:02:56,200
Speaker 1: is gonna embrace community service. He's gonna embrace making an

2494
02:02:56,240 --> 02:02:59,360
Speaker 1: impact in the community. He's gonna make the guys in

2495
02:02:59,440 --> 02:03:00,920
Speaker 1: the locker is gonna trying to make the guys in

2496
02:03:00,960 --> 02:03:04,080
Speaker 1: the locker room around him better. Um, he's gonna be,

2497
02:03:04,720 --> 02:03:07,560
Speaker 1: you know, a an extension of the coaching staff and

2498
02:03:07,640 --> 02:03:11,400
Speaker 1: an extension of the GM and the ownership UM in

2499
02:03:11,480 --> 02:03:14,480
Speaker 1: terms of how he conducts himself and how he represents

2500
02:03:14,520 --> 02:03:18,000
Speaker 1: So I just you know, I'm biased, obviously, but I

2501
02:03:18,080 --> 02:03:20,240
Speaker 1: love the guy and I think the role of him

2502
02:03:20,280 --> 02:03:24,280
Speaker 1: and his family and everything that he represents the final question, coach,

2503
02:03:24,440 --> 02:03:28,240
Speaker 1: and I think that is represented in how a player

2504
02:03:28,360 --> 02:03:30,800
Speaker 1: improves and when he steps in your building to when

2505
02:03:30,800 --> 02:03:36,120
Speaker 1: he leaves your building. How much and where did Barkley

2506
02:03:36,280 --> 02:03:38,520
Speaker 1: improve from the first day he walked in at Penn

2507
02:03:38,520 --> 02:03:42,320
Speaker 1: State to yesterday getting drafted into the NFL And how

2508
02:03:42,400 --> 02:03:44,839
Speaker 1: is he able to make those big jumps and improvement

2509
02:03:44,840 --> 02:03:47,560
Speaker 1: in terms of his game? Well, you know, I think

2510
02:03:47,800 --> 02:03:50,200
Speaker 1: you get that question a lot about like one area.

2511
02:03:50,200 --> 02:03:52,320
Speaker 1: And I think that's the thing that makes say Kwan

2512
02:03:52,520 --> 02:03:55,840
Speaker 1: unique is it's not one area. It's the combination of

2513
02:03:55,920 --> 02:03:59,320
Speaker 1: traits and skills that he has, uh, And really each

2514
02:03:59,440 --> 02:04:03,040
Speaker 1: one is strong where where most facts you know, and

2515
02:04:03,160 --> 02:04:05,960
Speaker 1: most players they may be really stronger than some areas,

2516
02:04:05,960 --> 02:04:08,480
Speaker 1: but they have weaknesses and other And with say quantity,

2517
02:04:08,560 --> 02:04:12,200
Speaker 1: just got so many skills. The body type you're looking for,

2518
02:04:12,280 --> 02:04:15,240
Speaker 1: the size that you're looking for, the strength, the speed,

2519
02:04:15,320 --> 02:04:18,040
Speaker 1: the power, um, the vision, you know, all if you

2520
02:04:18,120 --> 02:04:20,360
Speaker 1: list out all the qualities you're looking forward to running back,

2521
02:04:20,400 --> 02:04:23,240
Speaker 1: he's he's got a lot of them. So um, that's

2522
02:04:23,280 --> 02:04:26,320
Speaker 1: that's that's where I think kind of he differentiates himself.

2523
02:04:26,560 --> 02:04:28,200
Speaker 1: But I think the other thing is is the way

2524
02:04:28,200 --> 02:04:30,800
Speaker 1: he attacks that. He has a drive and a passion

2525
02:04:31,200 --> 02:04:33,520
Speaker 1: to be special. He wants to be, you know, the

2526
02:04:33,520 --> 02:04:35,400
Speaker 1: greatest running back to ever play the game. You know,

2527
02:04:35,440 --> 02:04:37,960
Speaker 1: at his at his party last night, you know, Jim

2528
02:04:38,000 --> 02:04:40,400
Speaker 1: Brown is there and someone obviously he looks up to,

2529
02:04:40,560 --> 02:04:42,720
Speaker 1: and he wants to be the greatest running back to

2530
02:04:42,720 --> 02:04:46,120
Speaker 1: ever play the game. And you know is really approached

2531
02:04:46,160 --> 02:04:48,400
Speaker 1: at that way since the day he stepped on our campus.

2532
02:04:48,440 --> 02:04:51,160
Speaker 1: He loves the game of football and has driven and

2533
02:04:51,280 --> 02:04:55,440
Speaker 1: passionate about being special. Jay Coach, I saw him at

2534
02:04:55,440 --> 02:04:58,000
Speaker 1: the combine close up. I saw him standing at the podium,

2535
02:04:58,000 --> 02:05:00,120
Speaker 1: and my first reaction was, my goodness. He has the

2536
02:05:00,160 --> 02:05:02,360
Speaker 1: thighs the size of tree trunks. And I can only

2537
02:05:02,400 --> 02:05:05,440
Speaker 1: imagine he had to work. That must have went into

2538
02:05:05,560 --> 02:05:09,760
Speaker 1: just developing his athleticism and athleticism and his body. Uh,

2539
02:05:09,800 --> 02:05:11,920
Speaker 1: the way he has. And I gotta be honest, I

2540
02:05:11,920 --> 02:05:13,280
Speaker 1: feel a little bad for you because I think your

2541
02:05:13,320 --> 02:05:16,640
Speaker 1: offense might see some fewer eight man fronts in the

2542
02:05:16,680 --> 02:05:20,040
Speaker 1: next couple of years with Taken no longer with the team. Uh.

2543
02:05:20,120 --> 02:05:22,720
Speaker 1: I can only imagine, um what an impact he had

2544
02:05:22,760 --> 02:05:25,520
Speaker 1: overall on your program. And it's been great listening to

2545
02:05:25,560 --> 02:05:27,400
Speaker 1: you talk about him today. We appreciate the time. Thanks

2546
02:05:27,440 --> 02:05:32,680
Speaker 1: so much, a great thank you. That's James Franklin, head

2547
02:05:32,720 --> 02:05:35,480
Speaker 1: coach of Penn State. Coach Stake Kwon Barkley a very

2548
02:05:35,520 --> 02:05:37,640
Speaker 1: thorough interview there, Paul, and a few things that jumped

2549
02:05:37,640 --> 02:05:40,160
Speaker 1: out to me. Um. We talked about Barkley ran a

2550
02:05:40,200 --> 02:05:42,640
Speaker 1: lot of the shotgun at Penn State. Well as a freshman,

2551
02:05:42,680 --> 02:05:44,320
Speaker 1: he ran out of the I formation a lot, so

2552
02:05:44,360 --> 02:05:48,160
Speaker 1: he does have a lot of flexibility in that way. Um,

2553
02:05:48,240 --> 02:05:50,320
Speaker 1: without me even asking the question. He did bring up

2554
02:05:50,360 --> 02:05:52,880
Speaker 1: the one weakness with his game that we had spoken

2555
02:05:52,920 --> 02:05:55,040
Speaker 1: about during the draft process that you know he used

2556
02:05:55,080 --> 02:05:57,000
Speaker 1: to learn maybe to take the dirty two or three

2557
02:05:57,040 --> 02:05:59,040
Speaker 1: yards instead of trying to bounce everything and make a

2558
02:05:59,080 --> 02:06:02,000
Speaker 1: big play. Coach brought that up on his own. Um.

2559
02:06:02,000 --> 02:06:04,080
Speaker 1: But the one thing that really jumped out to me

2560
02:06:04,360 --> 02:06:08,040
Speaker 1: was he talked to him. He said last year or

2561
02:06:08,040 --> 02:06:11,400
Speaker 1: two years ago, when Ezekiel Elliott was in the draft,

2562
02:06:12,160 --> 02:06:15,320
Speaker 1: and he said, Kan, what do you hear all these

2563
02:06:15,360 --> 02:06:18,040
Speaker 1: people saying about Ezekiel Elliott? And he goes, he's a

2564
02:06:18,040 --> 02:06:20,000
Speaker 1: great running back and he says, well, what else did

2565
02:06:20,000 --> 02:06:24,040
Speaker 1: they mention? He's a great pass protector. You want to

2566
02:06:24,080 --> 02:06:27,920
Speaker 1: get noticed protect the passer. And he said the two

2567
02:06:27,960 --> 02:06:30,160
Speaker 1: things that Barkley when he got the Penn State wasn't

2568
02:06:30,160 --> 02:06:33,680
Speaker 1: great at that he had to improve that was catching

2569
02:06:33,680 --> 02:06:36,720
Speaker 1: the football and protecting the passer. And those are two

2570
02:06:36,760 --> 02:06:39,240
Speaker 1: things that he really worked on. And he said, you know,

2571
02:06:39,320 --> 02:06:42,960
Speaker 1: Barkley somebody that likes to pinpoint weaknesses and improve on

2572
02:06:43,040 --> 02:06:45,560
Speaker 1: those and get better at them. And that's something that

2573
02:06:46,040 --> 02:06:48,120
Speaker 1: we saw in his years at Penn State. And he

2574
02:06:48,160 --> 02:06:50,800
Speaker 1: couldn't speak more highly the type of guy that he was,

2575
02:06:51,200 --> 02:06:53,440
Speaker 1: which tells me he's the guy that loves the game.

2576
02:06:53,600 --> 02:06:56,360
Speaker 1: He's a good kid, he works hard, likes to improve.

2577
02:06:56,960 --> 02:07:00,680
Speaker 1: That spells a good formula for NFL success at the

2578
02:07:00,680 --> 02:07:03,360
Speaker 1: next level. Well, I'm going to take that a step further, John,

2579
02:07:03,600 --> 02:07:07,120
Speaker 1: because that tells me he's a self motivator. Yes, and

2580
02:07:07,200 --> 02:07:10,120
Speaker 1: you need self motivators as you went through the NFL,

2581
02:07:10,240 --> 02:07:13,760
Speaker 1: because we've talked about it so many times that you know,

2582
02:07:13,800 --> 02:07:16,960
Speaker 1: these guys coming to the league and maybe they can't

2583
02:07:17,000 --> 02:07:19,760
Speaker 1: spend as much time on the fundamentals and the coaching

2584
02:07:19,760 --> 02:07:22,000
Speaker 1: and the polishing up that they need to right away.

2585
02:07:22,280 --> 02:07:23,720
Speaker 1: And that's why a lot of rookies don't make a

2586
02:07:23,800 --> 02:07:27,560
Speaker 1: quick impact because it takes time and they just don't

2587
02:07:27,560 --> 02:07:30,040
Speaker 1: get the time with the limited amount of practice hours

2588
02:07:30,040 --> 02:07:33,320
Speaker 1: that they get in the NFL to fully develop their skills.

2589
02:07:33,360 --> 02:07:36,120
Speaker 1: So if you're a self motivator, it gives you an

2590
02:07:36,120 --> 02:07:39,280
Speaker 1: advantage to accelerate your development, no question about it. And

2591
02:07:39,280 --> 02:07:41,400
Speaker 1: of course we'll end up putting that interview up on

2592
02:07:41,400 --> 02:07:43,360
Speaker 1: its own on giants dot com as well, probably at

2593
02:07:43,360 --> 02:07:45,480
Speaker 1: some point over that or tomorrow, so you can check

2594
02:07:45,520 --> 02:07:47,760
Speaker 1: that out as well as for the show. We're gonna

2595
02:07:47,760 --> 02:07:49,560
Speaker 1: continue taking a few more of your calls, and in

2596
02:07:49,600 --> 02:07:52,360
Speaker 1: a few minutes, Jonah Tolls from n d T Scouting

2597
02:07:52,560 --> 02:07:54,600
Speaker 1: will kind of break down some of the surprises he's

2598
02:07:54,600 --> 02:07:56,480
Speaker 1: seemed so far in the second round, and then we'll

2599
02:07:56,480 --> 02:07:58,240
Speaker 1: look ahead to the Giants pick at the top around

2600
02:07:58,280 --> 02:07:59,760
Speaker 1: three and poll. We should go through the rest of

2601
02:07:59,760 --> 02:08:02,400
Speaker 1: the elections that were made during that interview. We are

2602
02:08:02,440 --> 02:08:08,080
Speaker 1: ten picks away from the Giants next selection. Not that close. Sorry, Yeah,

2603
02:08:08,080 --> 02:08:10,680
Speaker 1: they're up to pick number sixty six or fifty six

2604
02:08:10,680 --> 02:08:15,600
Speaker 1: and the Giants picking sixty six. There you go through

2605
02:08:15,640 --> 02:08:19,200
Speaker 1: the man excellent and I think we were that close anyway.

2606
02:08:19,240 --> 02:08:21,200
Speaker 1: The picks that we missed while we were away. Uh,

2607
02:08:21,200 --> 02:08:24,240
Speaker 1: Anthony Miller went to the Bears at fifty one, Colts

2608
02:08:24,240 --> 02:08:28,280
Speaker 1: took to Comoco Terrey at fifty two, Bucks took m J. Stewart,

2609
02:08:28,280 --> 02:08:30,720
Speaker 1: the cornerback out of North Carolina at fifty three, and

2610
02:08:30,760 --> 02:08:33,480
Speaker 1: the Bengals took safety Jesse Bates at a wake Forest

2611
02:08:33,920 --> 02:08:35,880
Speaker 1: at fifty four. We've talked about a lot of these guys.

2612
02:08:35,960 --> 02:08:38,320
Speaker 1: Mill are very good, productive wide receiver at in Memphis.

2613
02:08:38,480 --> 02:08:39,920
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan is. I think he was the

2614
02:08:39,960 --> 02:08:43,040
Speaker 1: third best wide receiver in the class. Tore the very

2615
02:08:43,160 --> 02:08:46,120
Speaker 1: raw pass rusher at a Rutgers former basketball player, had

2616
02:08:46,120 --> 02:08:49,240
Speaker 1: a couple of shoulder surgeries in twenty sixteen, but all

2617
02:08:49,280 --> 02:08:51,360
Speaker 1: the physical talent you could want. He played well at

2618
02:08:51,360 --> 02:08:54,880
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl. M J. Stewart slot defender at a

2619
02:08:54,960 --> 02:09:05,480
Speaker 1: North Carolina. Uh, he's somebody that. And then you have

2620
02:09:05,640 --> 02:09:07,800
Speaker 1: m Jston. You have Jesse Bates, safety at a wake

2621
02:09:07,880 --> 02:09:12,080
Speaker 1: Forest who went to the Bengals. Um. So again, let's

2622
02:09:12,080 --> 02:09:13,400
Speaker 1: go to the calls we have. Will go to Nick

2623
02:09:13,400 --> 02:09:16,280
Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania first before we get Joan on the line.

2624
02:09:16,280 --> 02:09:17,840
Speaker 1: In a few minutes, Nick, what's going on now? How

2625
02:09:17,880 --> 02:09:25,840
Speaker 1: are you hi what's up? Oh my god, forever and

2626
02:09:26,040 --> 02:09:29,480
Speaker 1: talk to you guys, and working so much. We've been

2627
02:09:29,480 --> 02:09:34,480
Speaker 1: working pretty hard too good to talk to you. Oh

2628
02:09:34,520 --> 02:09:37,920
Speaker 1: my god, I don't know what to say. First of all, Paul,

2629
02:09:38,280 --> 02:09:40,280
Speaker 1: do you know what the lottery numbers are? Because you've

2630
02:09:40,320 --> 02:09:43,920
Speaker 1: picked every freaking jock we've been calling for, so I

2631
02:09:43,920 --> 02:09:45,840
Speaker 1: thought that you're the only one getting credit for this.

2632
02:09:45,920 --> 02:09:48,800
Speaker 1: By the way, I'm getting a little annoyed because because

2633
02:09:48,800 --> 02:09:52,280
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, these two weren't nearly as hard

2634
02:09:52,320 --> 02:09:55,800
Speaker 1: as some of the other ones over the years. But nonetheless,

2635
02:09:56,080 --> 02:09:58,960
Speaker 1: the good news is the Giants got these players. I

2636
02:09:59,000 --> 02:10:01,560
Speaker 1: could care less about getting credit for it. I'm just

2637
02:10:01,600 --> 02:10:05,320
Speaker 1: happy they got him, all right, So who do you think?

2638
02:10:07,120 --> 02:10:11,840
Speaker 1: Who do you think? You? Guys? Well, can you can

2639
02:10:11,880 --> 02:10:14,000
Speaker 1: you tell me who's gonna be there? I mean, I

2640
02:10:14,120 --> 02:10:19,560
Speaker 1: love Isaiah Oliver, I love Carlton Davis, I love Jamarco Jones. Uh.

2641
02:10:19,600 --> 02:10:21,840
Speaker 1: Those are all guys that would be very, very attractive

2642
02:10:21,880 --> 02:10:24,240
Speaker 1: to me. And I'm still gonna tell you I love

2643
02:10:24,280 --> 02:10:27,440
Speaker 1: Lorenzo Carter, the outside linebacker around at Georgia. If he's there,

2644
02:10:27,440 --> 02:10:30,520
Speaker 1: that's an option, Paul, Absolutely, I'll be honest with you.

2645
02:10:30,640 --> 02:10:32,960
Speaker 1: John as highly rated as the corners are, and I

2646
02:10:32,960 --> 02:10:37,480
Speaker 1: think there's good value in need there. Lorenzo Carter. I

2647
02:10:37,680 --> 02:10:40,040
Speaker 1: got a feeling he's gonna be a better pro than

2648
02:10:40,080 --> 02:10:42,760
Speaker 1: he was in college. And Dante Jackson just went off

2649
02:10:42,760 --> 02:10:44,720
Speaker 1: the board at corner to the Panthers, by the way,

2650
02:10:45,080 --> 02:10:52,800
Speaker 1: and the Patriots still there. That here's the thing about Carter,

2651
02:10:52,920 --> 02:10:55,560
Speaker 1: and we talked about his versatility, could play week side,

2652
02:10:55,600 --> 02:10:59,000
Speaker 1: could play strong side, see and Betri's scheme. I like that.

2653
02:10:59,360 --> 02:11:01,520
Speaker 1: I really not a guy who's gonna be able to

2654
02:11:01,680 --> 02:11:04,600
Speaker 1: physically adapt to the different things that Betcher is going

2655
02:11:04,640 --> 02:11:07,560
Speaker 1: to want him to do. That's the confusion that bet

2656
02:11:07,640 --> 02:11:10,360
Speaker 1: youer wants to wreck, or that the kind of havoc

2657
02:11:10,400 --> 02:11:13,720
Speaker 1: he wants to wreck on another team's offense. So I'm

2658
02:11:13,800 --> 02:11:15,840
Speaker 1: high for him right now and we'll see if he

2659
02:11:15,840 --> 02:11:19,960
Speaker 1: can drop now. I want all the Giant fans to

2660
02:11:20,000 --> 02:11:24,400
Speaker 1: know this, and you guys are the best to answer this. Well,

2661
02:11:24,440 --> 02:11:27,760
Speaker 1: Hernandez is not going to be going against speed pass rusher.

2662
02:11:29,120 --> 02:11:34,400
Speaker 1: No wonder things that he always his beet by speed rushers,

2663
02:11:34,440 --> 02:11:37,800
Speaker 1: well nine times about ten. You're not gonna go against

2664
02:11:37,840 --> 02:11:40,920
Speaker 1: a defensive tackle that's a speed rusher. Correct, Hey, look, look,

2665
02:11:40,960 --> 02:11:42,840
Speaker 1: I think, well, Hernandez, it's fair to say he may

2666
02:11:42,880 --> 02:11:44,880
Speaker 1: be struggles a little bit with some of the quicker guys.

2667
02:11:44,920 --> 02:11:47,800
Speaker 1: But but again, he he's a guard. It's not like

2668
02:11:47,840 --> 02:11:50,840
Speaker 1: he's out on an island against Khalil mack On every

2669
02:11:50,880 --> 02:11:56,160
Speaker 1: player and the Giant fans get so scared just because

2670
02:11:57,160 --> 02:12:02,080
Speaker 1: he's not a hundred saying great again, speed us. Hey,

2671
02:12:02,200 --> 02:12:04,200
Speaker 1: here's the thing. And I said this a million times

2672
02:12:04,200 --> 02:12:05,960
Speaker 1: and and and and Nick, thanks a lot for the call.

2673
02:12:06,000 --> 02:12:10,920
Speaker 1: We appreciate it. Um good stuff. There is no perfect prospect. Okay,

2674
02:12:11,480 --> 02:12:14,760
Speaker 1: every pick that's ever been made in the history of

2675
02:12:14,800 --> 02:12:18,120
Speaker 1: any sport, you can say a reason why this player

2676
02:12:18,200 --> 02:12:20,960
Speaker 1: is not perfect. So yeah, is will hernand is perfect?

2677
02:12:20,960 --> 02:12:24,040
Speaker 1: That everything? No, but that's fine, nobody is. Uh. Patriots

2678
02:12:24,040 --> 02:12:27,440
Speaker 1: of fifty six selected Duke Dawson, and I think the

2679
02:12:27,560 --> 02:12:31,680
Speaker 1: run on corners, by the way, and so is Dante Jackson,

2680
02:12:31,720 --> 02:12:33,480
Speaker 1: and so is M. J. Stewart. So three out of

2681
02:12:33,480 --> 02:12:37,240
Speaker 1: the last four picks are slot corners. Here, this one

2682
02:12:37,320 --> 02:12:41,480
Speaker 1: to the Patriots Duke Dawson, cornerback out of Florida. And

2683
02:12:41,520 --> 02:12:44,720
Speaker 1: yet Carlton Davis was regarded as a potential late first

2684
02:12:44,840 --> 02:12:47,960
Speaker 1: rounder and Oliver for sure was going to be an

2685
02:12:47,960 --> 02:12:51,360
Speaker 1: early second and they're both slipping right now. So that's

2686
02:12:51,360 --> 02:12:54,640
Speaker 1: that's gonna be interesting there. Maybe there's something in those

2687
02:12:54,680 --> 02:12:59,120
Speaker 1: files again that teams no medical or otherwise that have

2688
02:12:59,200 --> 02:13:01,600
Speaker 1: not come to the pick forefront. And Darius guy stole

2689
02:13:01,640 --> 02:13:04,440
Speaker 1: on the board as well, well, wasn't one of the

2690
02:13:04,760 --> 02:13:06,920
Speaker 1: ranks said that I think he could fall. They said

2691
02:13:06,960 --> 02:13:09,960
Speaker 1: that that was possible. So anyway, we're getting closer Pick

2692
02:13:10,000 --> 02:13:12,680
Speaker 1: fifty seven Giants or at sixty six. Joseph and the

2693
02:13:12,680 --> 02:13:14,320
Speaker 1: Bronx health of the interview. Let's get to him and

2694
02:13:14,360 --> 02:13:16,440
Speaker 1: then we'll get Joe up on the phone. Natalie, what's

2695
02:13:16,480 --> 02:13:20,000
Speaker 1: going on, Joseph? How are you? Hey? Hello? What about that? Joseph?

2696
02:13:20,040 --> 02:13:22,280
Speaker 1: You're on the air. Hey, what's my name is? I

2697
02:13:22,520 --> 02:13:25,800
Speaker 1: Ve actually? Oh sorry about that? Thank you for calling?

2698
02:13:27,560 --> 02:13:29,480
Speaker 1: All right? So I'm calling him because a lot of

2699
02:13:29,520 --> 02:13:33,680
Speaker 1: people are now speaking about urdin Key that he has

2700
02:13:33,720 --> 02:13:37,080
Speaker 1: a lot of off the field stuff in addition to

2701
02:13:37,600 --> 02:13:41,320
Speaker 1: an injury file that does not make teams feel very good,

2702
02:13:41,320 --> 02:13:44,480
Speaker 1: and those two things are very scary. Well, he could

2703
02:13:44,480 --> 02:13:47,360
Speaker 1: take a flyer on him towards the end. Oh yeah,

2704
02:13:47,400 --> 02:13:50,360
Speaker 1: but I would not take a flyer on him on

2705
02:13:50,480 --> 02:13:52,880
Speaker 1: day two. He's a Day three flyer to me, not

2706
02:13:52,960 --> 02:13:54,720
Speaker 1: a Day two flying I think a lot of people

2707
02:13:54,760 --> 02:13:59,120
Speaker 1: probably feel well, way, oh well, thank you, I'm I'm

2708
02:13:59,120 --> 02:14:03,560
Speaker 1: gonna go hig him. Okay, Joy, thank you, Joseph, appreciate it.

2709
02:14:05,440 --> 02:14:08,320
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, why not? Why do I find that hysterical?

2710
02:14:08,480 --> 02:14:16,360
Speaker 1: I've I've never heard anybody equated us. Let's let's let's not.

2711
02:14:16,920 --> 02:14:19,320
Speaker 1: Let's We'll have Jonah Tolls from n d T Scouting

2712
02:14:19,400 --> 02:14:21,960
Speaker 1: joining us in uh in just a second. Um. The

2713
02:14:22,040 --> 02:14:24,040
Speaker 1: Raiders selections in the fifty seven, so we're gonna have to

2714
02:14:24,000 --> 02:14:25,800
Speaker 1: to go pretty quick with Jonah to make sure. But

2715
02:14:25,840 --> 02:14:27,600
Speaker 1: you know, we always end up getting the prediction. Our

2716
02:14:27,600 --> 02:14:31,040
Speaker 1: experts have nailed the picks for the Giants and rounds three, four,

2717
02:14:31,040 --> 02:14:33,240
Speaker 1: and five. John Ledyard especially will be with us. Yesterday's

2718
02:14:33,240 --> 02:14:35,680
Speaker 1: being great picking some of these guys. We'll get Joda's

2719
02:14:35,680 --> 02:14:37,800
Speaker 1: opinion on kind of what's coming up here for the

2720
02:14:37,800 --> 02:14:40,880
Speaker 1: Giants at the top of round number three. When we

2721
02:14:40,880 --> 02:14:42,600
Speaker 1: get him on the phone again, Jonah Tolls from n

2722
02:14:42,640 --> 02:14:45,920
Speaker 1: d T Scouting, we'll be joining us in just a second, um,

2723
02:14:45,920 --> 02:14:48,160
Speaker 1: waiting for the Raiders selection here at the fifty seven

2724
02:14:48,280 --> 02:14:52,560
Speaker 1: overall pick, and they select p J. Hall, a defensive

2725
02:14:52,600 --> 02:14:55,840
Speaker 1: tackle out of sam Houston State. And I gotta be honest, Paul,

2726
02:14:56,240 --> 02:14:58,960
Speaker 1: this is the first guy that's been selected that I'm

2727
02:14:59,000 --> 02:15:01,360
Speaker 1: really not that familiar with. What do you got on PJ? Hall?

2728
02:15:01,480 --> 02:15:03,760
Speaker 1: For me? All right? I got on PJ Hall a

2729
02:15:03,840 --> 02:15:07,280
Speaker 1: four three defensive tackle or possibly playing a three or

2730
02:15:07,280 --> 02:15:11,920
Speaker 1: four defensive and I said that he was athletic, uh,

2731
02:15:11,960 --> 02:15:14,640
Speaker 1: he has a quick get off at the snap. Looked

2732
02:15:14,680 --> 02:15:17,120
Speaker 1: like he's a very smart player and understands what he's

2733
02:15:17,120 --> 02:15:20,200
Speaker 1: got to do very well. My questions on him the

2734
02:15:20,200 --> 02:15:23,280
Speaker 1: repertoire moves that he showed, as well as perhaps a

2735
02:15:23,320 --> 02:15:25,920
Speaker 1: lack of power. At six three, three eleven, he should

2736
02:15:25,920 --> 02:15:28,440
Speaker 1: play stronger than he does, at least that's the way

2737
02:15:28,520 --> 02:15:31,520
Speaker 1: I saw it. I had him as a solid second rounder,

2738
02:15:31,920 --> 02:15:36,080
Speaker 1: so he's going pretty much in the vicinity of where

2739
02:15:36,120 --> 02:15:37,960
Speaker 1: he should be. Now, you're also a sucker for the

2740
02:15:37,960 --> 02:15:41,160
Speaker 1: small school guy too, Sam Euston say, you know, I

2741
02:15:41,280 --> 02:15:43,400
Speaker 1: confess I I have a little bit of a soft

2742
02:15:43,440 --> 02:15:45,520
Speaker 1: spot for those guys because I think that you know,

2743
02:15:45,920 --> 02:15:48,400
Speaker 1: they put something on tape, they put the production out there,

2744
02:15:48,440 --> 02:15:50,200
Speaker 1: they got the skill set. I don't want to. I

2745
02:15:50,240 --> 02:15:52,480
Speaker 1: don't want to hold things against them. Now they got

2746
02:15:52,560 --> 02:15:54,360
Speaker 1: Jones on the line or not yet? All right, let's

2747
02:15:54,640 --> 02:15:56,240
Speaker 1: let us know when you haven't call him back again.

2748
02:15:56,240 --> 02:15:59,680
Speaker 1: When we get him, we'll we'll we'll throw him right on. Um.

2749
02:15:59,760 --> 02:16:03,280
Speaker 1: So a pick p J Hall, the defensive lineman um

2750
02:16:03,280 --> 02:16:05,320
Speaker 1: out of Sam Houston Stad he goes to the Oakland Raiders.

2751
02:16:05,360 --> 02:16:07,560
Speaker 1: All right, Paul, let's go through our list here. Um.

2752
02:16:07,600 --> 02:16:10,240
Speaker 1: Who are some of the guys that you're earmarking that

2753
02:16:10,280 --> 02:16:12,600
Speaker 1: are on the board and have not been selected yet?

2754
02:16:12,840 --> 02:16:15,600
Speaker 1: That could be the Giants selections when they pick in

2755
02:16:15,720 --> 02:16:19,080
Speaker 1: round number three at pick number sixty six and pick

2756
02:16:19,200 --> 02:16:23,400
Speaker 1: number sixty nine, there are three four, five, six, seven,

2757
02:16:23,800 --> 02:16:26,560
Speaker 1: eight selections of the Giants pick at sixty six, and

2758
02:16:26,600 --> 02:16:29,360
Speaker 1: then there are two picks between the Giants selections at

2759
02:16:29,400 --> 02:16:31,280
Speaker 1: sixty six and sixty nine. What do you got for me?

2760
02:16:31,760 --> 02:16:34,840
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any doubt John, If Carlton Davis

2761
02:16:34,959 --> 02:16:38,200
Speaker 1: is there, the value is too good for me to

2762
02:16:38,240 --> 02:16:40,320
Speaker 1: pass up at the top of the third round, unless

2763
02:16:40,360 --> 02:16:43,880
Speaker 1: there's something in his files again that we don't know about,

2764
02:16:43,920 --> 02:16:46,120
Speaker 1: that is forcing him. The drop that causes you to

2765
02:16:46,200 --> 02:16:48,640
Speaker 1: have a yellow or a red flag. You know, it's

2766
02:16:48,680 --> 02:16:50,360
Speaker 1: hard for me to pass up the value because I

2767
02:16:50,400 --> 02:16:53,480
Speaker 1: gotta think his value is much higher than top of

2768
02:16:53,520 --> 02:16:55,720
Speaker 1: the third round. But I'm going to continue to say

2769
02:16:55,840 --> 02:16:58,879
Speaker 1: I hope, I really hope they get Lorenzo Cartered with

2770
02:16:58,920 --> 02:17:01,560
Speaker 1: one of those three two third round picks. I like

2771
02:17:01,600 --> 02:17:03,680
Speaker 1: I said, Oliver two, and I think I might like

2772
02:17:03,879 --> 02:17:05,360
Speaker 1: a little bit more than Carlton Davis, but I think

2773
02:17:05,400 --> 02:17:07,520
Speaker 1: they're both in the same category. I think both would

2774
02:17:07,520 --> 02:17:10,520
Speaker 1: be fine selections. Uh, this late in the process, all right,

2775
02:17:10,600 --> 02:17:13,840
Speaker 1: let's bringing our guest, Jonah Tolls for m DT Scouting.

2776
02:17:14,120 --> 02:17:16,160
Speaker 1: He joined us now he's one of our frequent guests

2777
02:17:16,200 --> 02:17:18,640
Speaker 1: during the draft process. He does a great job, Jonih.

2778
02:17:18,640 --> 02:17:20,960
Speaker 1: He got smelking Detino here in New Jersey. How are you.

2779
02:17:22,000 --> 02:17:24,000
Speaker 1: I'm doing good. Thanks trying me on, guys, appreciate it.

2780
02:17:24,000 --> 02:17:26,640
Speaker 1: Thanks for being with us. We appreciate it. Let's start

2781
02:17:26,720 --> 02:17:30,400
Speaker 1: this first in going in this direction, biggest surprise for

2782
02:17:30,440 --> 02:17:32,920
Speaker 1: you and round number two so far, Jonah, give me

2783
02:17:32,959 --> 02:17:35,440
Speaker 1: a couple of what he got. Yeah, there already been

2784
02:17:35,440 --> 02:17:38,320
Speaker 1: a couple of Yeutesmember Breland speaks going the first round

2785
02:17:38,320 --> 02:17:40,600
Speaker 1: of the Chiefs. Not only did he go to the Chiefs,

2786
02:17:40,600 --> 02:17:42,120
Speaker 1: but they traded up for him. I had him in

2787
02:17:42,160 --> 02:17:44,000
Speaker 1: the late fifth round. I think it was more of

2788
02:17:44,040 --> 02:17:48,440
Speaker 1: a project and trading up for nonetheless forty pick with

2789
02:17:48,520 --> 02:17:50,560
Speaker 1: a massive reach, of my opinion, and the one that

2790
02:17:50,640 --> 02:17:53,360
Speaker 1: just went p J Hall to the Oakland Raiders so

2791
02:17:53,480 --> 02:17:55,280
Speaker 1: far to the Oakland Raiders, the drafted Colton Mill and

2792
02:17:55,280 --> 02:17:57,400
Speaker 1: Puja Hall. Colton Mill was a fourth round grand on

2793
02:17:57,400 --> 02:17:59,480
Speaker 1: my board and Pja Hall was a sixth round grad

2794
02:17:59,560 --> 02:18:02,040
Speaker 1: on my board. So Jon Gruden is really going out

2795
02:18:02,080 --> 02:18:03,480
Speaker 1: of the box right here with the couple of first

2796
02:18:03,480 --> 02:18:07,680
Speaker 1: picks as far as you're concerned right now, besides guys

2797
02:18:08,000 --> 02:18:10,320
Speaker 1: which I think we are all looking at with our

2798
02:18:10,400 --> 02:18:13,320
Speaker 1: jaws dropping that he has just fallen like a stone,

2799
02:18:13,760 --> 02:18:15,920
Speaker 1: is there anybody else? And and by the way, we

2800
02:18:15,959 --> 02:18:17,720
Speaker 1: don't have the volume of the TV on here, we're

2801
02:18:17,760 --> 02:18:20,279
Speaker 1: doing a show. Do you know why guys is falling?

2802
02:18:20,280 --> 02:18:22,800
Speaker 1: And is there anybody else who was just plumbering that

2803
02:18:22,840 --> 02:18:25,959
Speaker 1: you didn't expect to see dropped like that? Yeah? I

2804
02:18:26,040 --> 02:18:28,760
Speaker 1: understand the maturity concerns with guys like from the fall

2805
02:18:28,800 --> 02:18:30,720
Speaker 1: in the first round, but for him to almost fall

2806
02:18:30,840 --> 02:18:33,720
Speaker 1: the second round is absolutely sanity. To me. This is

2807
02:18:33,720 --> 02:18:35,760
Speaker 1: a guy that is one of most productive running backs

2808
02:18:35,959 --> 02:18:37,520
Speaker 1: you know, come out with lu he was sitting behind

2809
02:18:37,520 --> 02:18:40,440
Speaker 1: the lending four net. He's had two great seasons over there.

2810
02:18:40,640 --> 02:18:42,440
Speaker 1: He's almost powerful one back to this cost, there's no

2811
02:18:42,480 --> 02:18:44,040
Speaker 1: reason for him to be falling this far. So you

2812
02:18:44,080 --> 02:18:47,120
Speaker 1: see here pretty quickly out of bed. The next guy

2813
02:18:47,200 --> 02:18:49,720
Speaker 1: that has really dropped that did not, such as Isaiah Oliver,

2814
02:18:49,920 --> 02:18:54,039
Speaker 1: the corner from Colorado. Because the seventeenth, seventeenth overall player

2815
02:18:54,000 --> 02:18:56,000
Speaker 1: on my draft board. I think this guy's the most

2816
02:18:56,080 --> 02:18:58,840
Speaker 1: upside of any cornerback in the draft than Denzel Ward.

2817
02:18:58,879 --> 02:19:02,199
Speaker 1: Haislan Alexander. Guy has the wink. Guys, the ball feels

2818
02:19:02,200 --> 02:19:04,520
Speaker 1: to be a number one quarterback in a press Man scheme.

2819
02:19:04,879 --> 02:19:07,120
Speaker 1: This is like that deserves to go somewhere in the

2820
02:19:07,160 --> 02:19:10,000
Speaker 1: top twenty, no less almost the third round. So this

2821
02:19:10,080 --> 02:19:13,320
Speaker 1: guy's legitimate steal along with there's guys. Um, how about

2822
02:19:13,320 --> 02:19:16,480
Speaker 1: Carlton Davis. Are you surprised he's still around on the

2823
02:19:16,480 --> 02:19:19,480
Speaker 1: board as well? This is about where I expect him

2824
02:19:19,520 --> 02:19:21,800
Speaker 1: to go. I think he's he's just like all of

2825
02:19:21,800 --> 02:19:24,360
Speaker 1: our big press corners, doesn't great ball skills, so le's

2826
02:19:24,360 --> 02:19:27,480
Speaker 1: probably why he's not. He's not gone yet. But again, um,

2827
02:19:27,520 --> 02:19:28,920
Speaker 1: he's just one of those guys where he's just really

2828
02:19:28,959 --> 02:19:30,400
Speaker 1: solid and he's just one of the guys I think

2829
02:19:30,400 --> 02:19:32,440
Speaker 1: he's as a high swore, he'd be a low ceiling

2830
02:19:32,440 --> 02:19:34,400
Speaker 1: maybe never be a Pro Bowl kind of player, but

2831
02:19:34,440 --> 02:19:36,600
Speaker 1: he'll always be the kind of a reliable press corps.

2832
02:19:36,600 --> 02:19:38,039
Speaker 1: So I am a little b surprised he's still here.

2833
02:19:38,040 --> 02:19:40,040
Speaker 1: How about linebackers? Giant fans think there's a need a

2834
02:19:40,080 --> 02:19:41,879
Speaker 1: linebacker here at the top a round three. Who do

2835
02:19:41,920 --> 02:19:43,320
Speaker 1: you like that's still on the board. That could be

2836
02:19:43,400 --> 02:19:46,720
Speaker 1: a giant target about eight or nine picks. Yeah, I

2837
02:19:46,760 --> 02:19:48,160
Speaker 1: think you guys should keep an eye on a couple

2838
02:19:48,200 --> 02:19:50,560
Speaker 1: of players. Lorenzo Carters from Georgia makes a lot of sense.

2839
02:19:50,560 --> 02:19:54,480
Speaker 1: That's a big, big, long guy who's really athletic, a

2840
02:19:54,600 --> 02:19:58,000
Speaker 1: lot of potential. This guy has Anthony Barr like potential.

2841
02:19:58,040 --> 02:20:00,880
Speaker 1: If you guys, you can develop him, right, I'm actually

2842
02:20:00,879 --> 02:20:02,800
Speaker 1: really surprised he still on the board right at this point.

2843
02:20:03,120 --> 02:20:06,359
Speaker 1: Another guy's Josie Jewel. Josie Jewels, the guy who's really instinctive,

2844
02:20:06,360 --> 02:20:08,640
Speaker 1: the guy who goes sign on the sideline, can really

2845
02:20:08,640 --> 02:20:10,920
Speaker 1: get down the field. I really like his ability to

2846
02:20:10,959 --> 02:20:14,440
Speaker 1: make tackles and finished play. So keeping on those two guys. Well, Jonah,

2847
02:20:14,560 --> 02:20:17,520
Speaker 1: the suspense is over. Isaiah Oliver is off the boards

2848
02:20:17,560 --> 02:20:25,320
Speaker 1: of the Atlanta Falconsall that's it. We should stop talking

2849
02:20:25,320 --> 02:20:29,760
Speaker 1: about Lorenzo Carda because now he's gonna go next. Um

2850
02:20:29,800 --> 02:20:32,320
Speaker 1: about um, how about the safety position. We've seen a

2851
02:20:32,360 --> 02:20:34,320
Speaker 1: couple of guys going along the board. I think a

2852
02:20:34,320 --> 02:20:36,640
Speaker 1: lot of people are surprised that Ronnie Harrison is still

2853
02:20:36,680 --> 02:20:38,480
Speaker 1: sitting there. What do you think of the rest of

2854
02:20:38,520 --> 02:20:41,960
Speaker 1: the safety class? Oh, I am really surprised and safety

2855
02:20:42,000 --> 02:20:44,520
Speaker 1: class is dropped this far because there's a big drop

2856
02:20:44,520 --> 02:20:46,160
Speaker 1: off of the first couple of guys. Like we just talk,

2857
02:20:46,240 --> 02:20:48,640
Speaker 1: Jessie Bates go off the board earlier, and I'm starting

2858
02:20:48,640 --> 02:20:50,640
Speaker 1: to wonder when Justin Reeves can go off the board.

2859
02:20:50,840 --> 02:20:54,000
Speaker 1: It's got tested tested off the roof at the Combine.

2860
02:20:54,240 --> 02:20:56,560
Speaker 1: And this guy's who had great production as final Susan

2861
02:20:56,560 --> 02:21:00,280
Speaker 1: at Stanford. Um, young guy, great upside, can play man, average,

2862
02:21:00,280 --> 02:21:03,680
Speaker 1: really versatile player. I'm surprised that the Patriots passed on him. Um.

2863
02:21:03,720 --> 02:21:06,200
Speaker 1: But uh, the only guy Ronnie Harrison you just mentioned him.

2864
02:21:06,200 --> 02:21:07,800
Speaker 1: He's kind of an enforcer in the run game, A

2865
02:21:07,840 --> 02:21:09,920
Speaker 1: true strong safety. But he's a guy who is a

2866
02:21:09,920 --> 02:21:12,480
Speaker 1: strong safety plus nothing. It's this fox guy. He can

2867
02:21:12,520 --> 02:21:15,280
Speaker 1: play deep, he can play cover to guy who who

2868
02:21:15,320 --> 02:21:17,879
Speaker 1: play man coverage. I'm was surprised those safety strong the board,

2869
02:21:17,920 --> 02:21:20,520
Speaker 1: so Junia safety. Um, there's still so much for you

2870
02:21:20,520 --> 02:21:22,520
Speaker 1: guys a draft. You know, we knew coming in that

2871
02:21:22,600 --> 02:21:25,400
Speaker 1: the defensive end crop was not going to be great.

2872
02:21:25,480 --> 02:21:29,520
Speaker 1: But nonetheless, Sam Hobbard from Ohio State I thought I

2873
02:21:29,680 --> 02:21:32,360
Speaker 1: thought might be gone by now. I see him more

2874
02:21:32,400 --> 02:21:34,440
Speaker 1: as a left defensive end in a four three than

2875
02:21:34,480 --> 02:21:37,280
Speaker 1: necessarily playing in a three four. But that's a guy

2876
02:21:37,320 --> 02:21:39,680
Speaker 1: who should start intriguing some people at this point, don't

2877
02:21:39,720 --> 02:21:42,560
Speaker 1: you think? Yeah? And you know why that this guy

2878
02:21:42,640 --> 02:21:44,280
Speaker 1: is not a sexy pick, this guy around. No, he's

2879
02:21:44,280 --> 02:21:47,000
Speaker 1: not in this pro day and so like people are

2880
02:21:47,000 --> 02:21:48,520
Speaker 1: going to pass on him because he doesn't have the

2881
02:21:48,560 --> 02:21:50,360
Speaker 1: flashy traits that some of these guys are reaching for.

2882
02:21:50,560 --> 02:21:53,600
Speaker 1: He's just a studies yeah, something you guys are reaching for.

2883
02:21:53,680 --> 02:21:55,840
Speaker 1: Breedlan speaking in p J. Hallward fits six strong guds

2884
02:21:55,840 --> 02:21:58,240
Speaker 1: on board. Sam Hobwards is a dang good football player,

2885
02:21:58,440 --> 02:22:00,440
Speaker 1: the guy who's getting some job done. And I think

2886
02:22:00,600 --> 02:22:01,879
Speaker 1: this is the guy you should take in the BOMA

2887
02:22:01,879 --> 02:22:03,640
Speaker 1: A second early third round is good value pick. You

2888
02:22:03,640 --> 02:22:05,720
Speaker 1: mentioned he is a really safe player. I think he's

2889
02:22:05,720 --> 02:22:07,160
Speaker 1: gonna start right away in this league. By the way,

2890
02:22:07,160 --> 02:22:09,200
Speaker 1: I want to point out Jonah with jon by Jonah

2891
02:22:09,240 --> 02:22:11,760
Speaker 1: tolds n d t scatting this tweet from Ian rappaport

2892
02:22:12,160 --> 02:22:14,520
Speaker 1: Uh and he's like he listened to Paula Tino's question,

2893
02:22:14,720 --> 02:22:17,360
Speaker 1: why is l s U running back Darius Guy sliding? Well?

2894
02:22:17,440 --> 02:22:21,360
Speaker 1: This is Ian's answer. Sources describe him as immature, high maintenance.

2895
02:22:21,640 --> 02:22:24,359
Speaker 1: His visits did not go well. Some incidents in college

2896
02:22:24,360 --> 02:22:27,600
Speaker 1: teams found out about that we're not previously reported, So

2897
02:22:27,680 --> 02:22:30,960
Speaker 1: that's that's the word there. How about offensive tackles, we

2898
02:22:31,040 --> 02:22:33,120
Speaker 1: saw Connor Williams I think for a little bit further

2899
02:22:33,160 --> 02:22:36,520
Speaker 1: than I thought he would. Jonah, what offensive tackles do

2900
02:22:36,560 --> 02:22:38,560
Speaker 1: you still like that are out there? I'm a little

2901
02:22:38,560 --> 02:22:41,400
Speaker 1: bit uh in favor of Jamarco Jones. I think he's

2902
02:22:41,400 --> 02:22:43,480
Speaker 1: just a very solid player out there at tackle. Who

2903
02:22:43,480 --> 02:22:46,240
Speaker 1: do you like from that class that's left. Yeah, I'll

2904
02:22:46,280 --> 02:22:48,280
Speaker 1: mention Connor Williams really quick. I think he's one of

2905
02:22:48,280 --> 02:22:49,920
Speaker 1: the best value picks of the draft. I had him

2906
02:22:49,920 --> 02:22:51,920
Speaker 1: ahead of Mike mcglench and Connor Williams, who both in

2907
02:22:51,920 --> 02:22:54,039
Speaker 1: the first round. And if you remember right before the

2908
02:22:54,080 --> 02:22:59,200
Speaker 1: costball season, this guy, Connor williamsensis a consensus top five

2909
02:22:59,240 --> 02:23:03,080
Speaker 1: pick in Montdraft before seventeen costtball season. So this is

2910
02:23:03,120 --> 02:23:04,640
Speaker 1: the guy that I think is a great Dill pick

2911
02:23:04,640 --> 02:23:06,160
Speaker 1: for the Dallas Show with the fifty who can plug

2912
02:23:06,160 --> 02:23:07,920
Speaker 1: in and play and let's go on the right tackle,

2913
02:23:07,959 --> 02:23:10,840
Speaker 1: So great pick for them. I think I'm ruthur pri offensive.

2914
02:23:10,840 --> 02:23:13,240
Speaker 1: The tackle classes really fallen as far. We've seen a

2915
02:23:13,240 --> 02:23:15,400
Speaker 1: lot of guards so early, but I think the offen tackle,

2916
02:23:15,440 --> 02:23:18,480
Speaker 1: the Kyral Crosby, Jamarco Jones to Cuma or core for

2917
02:23:18,760 --> 02:23:20,720
Speaker 1: you're gonna be able to find a starting offensive tackle

2918
02:23:20,760 --> 02:23:22,960
Speaker 1: in the third round. And I probably would have said

2919
02:23:22,959 --> 02:23:25,160
Speaker 1: that was coming into the second round. And by y

2920
02:23:25,240 --> 02:23:27,560
Speaker 1: Darius Guys is off the board to the Redskins Jonas,

2921
02:23:27,600 --> 02:23:30,520
Speaker 1: so they have their uh guy that's gonna tote the

2922
02:23:30,520 --> 02:23:32,000
Speaker 1: ball for them now for the rest of the year.

2923
02:23:33,200 --> 02:23:35,640
Speaker 1: I gotta go ahead. I'm sorry, Yeah, I got a

2924
02:23:35,680 --> 02:23:38,640
Speaker 1: puzzler for you. I mean, we have all seen the

2925
02:23:38,720 --> 02:23:43,400
Speaker 1: stories and the headlines positive and negative about Orlando Brown.

2926
02:23:43,840 --> 02:23:47,280
Speaker 1: Zeus junior, and when we were to combine, we are

2927
02:23:47,360 --> 02:23:50,440
Speaker 1: all kinds of things like, okay, as high as second round,

2928
02:23:50,440 --> 02:23:52,640
Speaker 1: but then he has a horrible combine. All of a sudden,

2929
02:23:52,640 --> 02:23:55,360
Speaker 1: there's some people saying he's fifth round, and ah, you know,

2930
02:23:55,400 --> 02:23:58,200
Speaker 1: I wouldn't touch him at all all over the map

2931
02:23:58,240 --> 02:24:01,640
Speaker 1: on this guy? What what is your perspective? And as

2932
02:24:01,640 --> 02:24:04,879
Speaker 1: we continue to go through these picks, is this somebody

2933
02:24:04,920 --> 02:24:07,360
Speaker 1: who you think is is being considered by I don't

2934
02:24:07,360 --> 02:24:09,440
Speaker 1: know half the teams, or are there really a bunch

2935
02:24:09,480 --> 02:24:12,400
Speaker 1: of teams that wiped him off their board? Yeah? I

2936
02:24:12,400 --> 02:24:14,200
Speaker 1: think you probably right. I think he might be off

2937
02:24:14,200 --> 02:24:16,600
Speaker 1: the board for some teams just because how badly he tested.

2938
02:24:16,879 --> 02:24:18,560
Speaker 1: I know it sounds harsh, but I mean somebody seems

2939
02:24:18,560 --> 02:24:20,720
Speaker 1: to have a light tresh thresholds these guys need to

2940
02:24:20,800 --> 02:24:23,240
Speaker 1: hit and Brown obviously did not hit those because he's one.

2941
02:24:23,280 --> 02:24:26,440
Speaker 1: But what worst combine testors in combine history. So I

2942
02:24:26,480 --> 02:24:28,200
Speaker 1: think he has to worry a little bit about dropping

2943
02:24:28,200 --> 02:24:30,680
Speaker 1: the days three at this point. But again, the offense

2944
02:24:30,680 --> 02:24:33,000
Speaker 1: Pacold round has how started yet. We just had you know,

2945
02:24:33,040 --> 02:24:35,360
Speaker 1: Connor Williams about the board. We haven't seen the Tyrell Crosby,

2946
02:24:35,440 --> 02:24:37,959
Speaker 1: the Jamaco Jones, the Oakahore Force. They haven't seen those

2947
02:24:37,959 --> 02:24:39,520
Speaker 1: guys go off yet. So Brown sold the chance to

2948
02:24:39,520 --> 02:24:41,680
Speaker 1: go here in the third round. But again you mentioned it.

2949
02:24:42,040 --> 02:24:44,080
Speaker 1: He's awesome team boards just because he didn't meet those

2950
02:24:44,120 --> 02:24:46,520
Speaker 1: at the light thresholds. Two guys, I want to touch

2951
02:24:46,560 --> 02:24:48,279
Speaker 1: on with you before we try to get your predictions

2952
02:24:48,280 --> 02:24:49,840
Speaker 1: to the two giant picks. And the pressure is on

2953
02:24:49,840 --> 02:24:52,400
Speaker 1: because your boy John Ledyard not nails these every single

2954
02:24:52,480 --> 02:24:55,080
Speaker 1: year when of your coworkers does. So I'm just warning

2955
02:24:55,120 --> 02:24:56,520
Speaker 1: you the pressure is on if you don't get him right,

2956
02:24:56,560 --> 02:24:59,840
Speaker 1: John's gonna make you hear about it. Um, they said, Rudolph,

2957
02:25:00,160 --> 02:25:02,280
Speaker 1: what do you think the landing spot is for him?

2958
02:25:02,360 --> 02:25:04,400
Speaker 1: Or maybe you think Kyle A. Letter and Mike White

2959
02:25:04,440 --> 02:25:05,959
Speaker 1: Mike go ahead of him. Your thoughts on where the

2960
02:25:05,959 --> 02:25:09,360
Speaker 1: next drop some spot is for QB. Well, I think

2961
02:25:09,400 --> 02:25:11,760
Speaker 1: we're getting very close to Mason rules, so spot maybe

2962
02:25:11,760 --> 02:25:16,119
Speaker 1: the very next pick. Pittsburgh Steelers Ben Roethlisberger a big quarterback,

2963
02:25:16,200 --> 02:25:19,200
Speaker 1: That's what Mason. Rudolph is, six five to thirty kind

2964
02:25:19,200 --> 02:25:21,480
Speaker 1: of big looking quarterback with a big arm. He could

2965
02:25:21,480 --> 02:25:23,360
Speaker 1: be a good replaced for brend Roelisberg. One on the

2966
02:25:23,400 --> 02:25:25,920
Speaker 1: road if he can don't sit behind for a couple

2967
02:25:25,920 --> 02:25:28,440
Speaker 1: of years. As it opened, Rolsburg has been contlained retirement

2968
02:25:28,440 --> 02:25:29,680
Speaker 1: for a couple of years. I was I think Pittsburgh

2969
02:25:29,680 --> 02:25:32,000
Speaker 1: needs to start looking for a replacement, so I looked

2970
02:25:32,000 --> 02:25:34,640
Speaker 1: for that there. I'd also look at for the Giants.

2971
02:25:34,760 --> 02:25:37,080
Speaker 1: The Giants have been looking for have been connected to

2972
02:25:37,080 --> 02:25:40,160
Speaker 1: the Mason Rudolph for a while of this draft process process.

2973
02:25:40,160 --> 02:25:42,600
Speaker 1: They have two picks, and I think they could they could,

2974
02:25:42,640 --> 02:25:44,080
Speaker 1: you know, afford to spend one of those on a

2975
02:25:44,160 --> 02:25:46,160
Speaker 1: on a successor for Eli Manning hopefully all right, final

2976
02:25:46,200 --> 02:25:48,120
Speaker 1: one for me before the prediction. I'm sure Paul something

2977
02:25:48,160 --> 02:25:51,040
Speaker 1: else for you too. How about Maurice Hurst? Uh? Three

2978
02:25:51,040 --> 02:25:53,680
Speaker 1: techniques are so valuable in the NFL. I mean, look

2979
02:25:53,720 --> 02:25:56,360
Speaker 1: what Aaron Donald does. And I'm not saying marisharss Aaron Donald,

2980
02:25:56,400 --> 02:25:59,520
Speaker 1: but save body type, he's a penetrator. We don't know

2981
02:25:59,560 --> 02:26:01,560
Speaker 1: about the hard condition, what teams have him on and

2982
02:26:01,600 --> 02:26:03,720
Speaker 1: off the board. I know it's tough, but at what

2983
02:26:03,800 --> 02:26:05,440
Speaker 1: point do you think the team says, you know what,

2984
02:26:05,520 --> 02:26:08,120
Speaker 1: this guy is so darned talented, we gotta roll the

2985
02:26:08,160 --> 02:26:11,039
Speaker 1: dice on him here. Yeah, it is tough. Because from

2986
02:26:11,040 --> 02:26:13,560
Speaker 1: everything I've heard, it's a thickening of the heart. So

2987
02:26:13,640 --> 02:26:15,880
Speaker 1: it's something that if he gets surgery for it or

2988
02:26:15,920 --> 02:26:18,880
Speaker 1: he gets repaired, his falkers over don't builds a physical

2989
02:26:19,160 --> 02:26:20,600
Speaker 1: So I think the lots can I think the majority

2990
02:26:20,600 --> 02:26:23,080
Speaker 1: of teams. I'm saying teams have him off the board.

2991
02:26:23,440 --> 02:26:24,960
Speaker 1: So you're gonna be looking at him, probably the guy

2992
02:26:24,959 --> 02:26:27,119
Speaker 1: who's gonna flip the day three at this point, unless

2993
02:26:27,120 --> 02:26:29,959
Speaker 1: the king believes in him. There are four or five

2994
02:26:29,959 --> 02:26:31,400
Speaker 1: teams I'll have him on the board. If some king

2995
02:26:31,480 --> 02:26:33,440
Speaker 1: believes in him, he could go tonight. But again, I

2996
02:26:33,480 --> 02:26:35,480
Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised to be falls to the day through

2997
02:26:35,520 --> 02:26:37,560
Speaker 1: the draft tomorrow. All Right, I'm gonna go way out

2998
02:26:37,560 --> 02:26:40,440
Speaker 1: of left field with a very generic question. So please,

2999
02:26:40,640 --> 02:26:42,760
Speaker 1: if you can't answer it, or if you just want

3000
02:26:42,760 --> 02:26:47,519
Speaker 1: to absolutely laugh, it's okay. Give me the one undrafted

3001
02:26:47,600 --> 02:26:50,800
Speaker 1: free agent that you just think, Hey, this guy's got

3002
02:26:50,800 --> 02:26:53,080
Speaker 1: no chance of being drafted, but people better keep an

3003
02:26:53,080 --> 02:26:55,320
Speaker 1: eye on him because this name is gonna be heard

3004
02:26:55,400 --> 02:26:59,400
Speaker 1: sometime during training camp. Oh man, that is a tough question.

3005
02:26:59,440 --> 02:27:01,720
Speaker 1: It is a tough I'll give you. I'll give you

3006
02:27:01,760 --> 02:27:03,840
Speaker 1: one name, and I think can really make some noise.

3007
02:27:03,959 --> 02:27:07,199
Speaker 1: And that's the guy named Vincent Smith from Limestone College

3008
02:27:07,680 --> 02:27:10,360
Speaker 1: would be that would be unknown where the heck is

3009
02:27:10,440 --> 02:27:14,640
Speaker 1: Limestone College is a highweight speed freak. He ran four

3010
02:27:14,680 --> 02:27:16,760
Speaker 1: or three in the four four games in the vertical.

3011
02:27:17,080 --> 02:27:18,879
Speaker 1: This guy can make plays. I think he can make

3012
02:27:19,120 --> 02:27:20,680
Speaker 1: You can make noise in some training camp. I don't

3013
02:27:20,760 --> 02:27:22,520
Speaker 1: just gonna make a ross or not. But this guy

3014
02:27:22,560 --> 02:27:24,640
Speaker 1: you're gonna see him on Twitter and on social media

3015
02:27:24,680 --> 02:27:26,680
Speaker 1: saying Okay, this guys make its noise in some training

3016
02:27:26,680 --> 02:27:28,840
Speaker 1: camp as an invite or a preseason free agents for sure.

3017
02:27:28,959 --> 02:27:31,720
Speaker 1: What position does he play? He plays a wide receiver.

3018
02:27:31,920 --> 02:27:33,400
Speaker 1: He's the guy who can really make plays as a

3019
02:27:33,440 --> 02:27:36,000
Speaker 1: catch point. He's an ex receiver who can lose a

3020
02:27:36,040 --> 02:27:39,640
Speaker 1: red zone threat plays down the field. He's really versatile.

3021
02:27:39,760 --> 02:27:44,360
Speaker 1: How big four? WHOA he's a He's gonna be at

3022
02:27:44,400 --> 02:27:47,800
Speaker 1: a training camp all right. I don't think there's any

3023
02:27:47,879 --> 02:27:50,960
Speaker 1: question about it. And uh quite frankly, I think you know,

3024
02:27:51,000 --> 02:27:54,680
Speaker 1: the Giants maybe looking to add some undrafted rookie wide

3025
02:27:54,680 --> 02:27:57,360
Speaker 1: receivers a free agents in particular to add to the

3026
02:27:57,360 --> 02:27:59,520
Speaker 1: competition at the back of the depth. Chard Steelers take

3027
02:27:59,520 --> 02:28:02,480
Speaker 1: a wider Seever, James Washington has been a popular wide

3028
02:28:02,480 --> 02:28:05,039
Speaker 1: receiver class in Round three, and I know Jona do

3029
02:28:05,080 --> 02:28:07,040
Speaker 1: some stuff for the Cowboys, and Cowboy fans are freaking out.

3030
02:28:07,080 --> 02:28:10,600
Speaker 1: They haven't gotten their wide receiver. Uh. Final question for

3031
02:28:10,640 --> 02:28:13,200
Speaker 1: your top around three. Give me your two predictions for

3032
02:28:13,280 --> 02:28:16,800
Speaker 1: the Giants picks at UH sixty six overall and sixty

3033
02:28:16,879 --> 02:28:21,520
Speaker 1: nine overall. All right, I'm not gonna pretty the order,

3034
02:28:21,959 --> 02:28:23,760
Speaker 1: but I'll preak the players. That's fine. I think it's

3035
02:28:23,760 --> 02:28:26,280
Speaker 1: gonna be Lorenzo Carter and I think it's gonna be

3036
02:28:26,280 --> 02:28:30,640
Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph. I love Carter because he's he's one of

3037
02:28:30,680 --> 02:28:33,640
Speaker 1: my two, but but I can't see them draft in

3038
02:28:33,680 --> 02:28:35,760
Speaker 1: the quarterback. So I'm off the board on that second

3039
02:28:35,800 --> 02:28:38,959
Speaker 1: one by you, Jonah. Great stuff. We appreciate in time.

3040
02:28:38,959 --> 02:28:40,320
Speaker 1: I know it's a busy night. We'll talk to you

3041
02:28:40,400 --> 02:28:44,520
Speaker 1: after the draft, right, pal, Well, I appreciate Jonah tells

3042
02:28:44,560 --> 02:28:46,160
Speaker 1: N D. T. Scotting. You find him on Twitter. Does

3043
02:28:46,240 --> 02:28:48,920
Speaker 1: great work on the draft. Wonderful job by him. We

3044
02:28:48,920 --> 02:28:50,800
Speaker 1: thank him for joining us. Turn on a big Blue

3045
02:28:50,840 --> 02:28:53,960
Speaker 1: kickoff Live. And I mentioned James Washington to the Steelers

3046
02:28:54,000 --> 02:28:57,360
Speaker 1: before that, Darius Guys to the Redskins and Isaiah Oliver

3047
02:28:58,000 --> 02:29:00,680
Speaker 1: to the Falcons. And I think when we started the

3048
02:29:00,680 --> 02:29:03,000
Speaker 1: show today, paulf I would have told you Isaiah Oliver

3049
02:29:03,080 --> 02:29:04,920
Speaker 1: and Darius guys will go back to back. You wouldn't

3050
02:29:04,920 --> 02:29:06,840
Speaker 1: be surprised if I told you they went back to

3051
02:29:06,879 --> 02:29:08,920
Speaker 1: back at fifty eight and fifty nine. I think he'd

3052
02:29:08,920 --> 02:29:11,520
Speaker 1: probably be a little bit surprised. Yeah, no, no, for sure.

3053
02:29:11,760 --> 02:29:14,119
Speaker 1: And I will tell you I'm getting some people feeding

3054
02:29:14,160 --> 02:29:16,640
Speaker 1: back here on Twitter at Giants w F A N

3055
02:29:17,120 --> 02:29:20,960
Speaker 1: suggesting that Crosby uh the Orgon tackle should be on

3056
02:29:21,000 --> 02:29:23,920
Speaker 1: the Giants board at the top of the third. I'm

3057
02:29:23,959 --> 02:29:25,960
Speaker 1: still of the belief he's not gonna make it there.

3058
02:29:26,360 --> 02:29:28,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I know we have what five picks left

3059
02:29:28,680 --> 02:29:31,880
Speaker 1: in this round five total, including the Browns at the

3060
02:29:31,920 --> 02:29:34,199
Speaker 1: top of a round three. I I got a hunch

3061
02:29:34,240 --> 02:29:36,320
Speaker 1: he's not gonna make it there. I think you've got

3062
02:29:36,360 --> 02:29:39,800
Speaker 1: a better chance because because let's face it, the tackles

3063
02:29:40,000 --> 02:29:42,360
Speaker 1: have not really gone and all of a sudden they're

3064
02:29:42,360 --> 02:29:44,400
Speaker 1: going to go. I got a hunch he's not gonna

3065
02:29:44,440 --> 02:29:47,040
Speaker 1: be there, So that's why I'm taking the linebacker in

3066
02:29:47,120 --> 02:29:49,360
Speaker 1: the corner. I also think there's really good value there.

3067
02:29:49,560 --> 02:29:52,840
Speaker 1: But if Crosby's there now, I'm gonna have to take him,

3068
02:29:52,840 --> 02:29:56,320
Speaker 1: and I'll probably take him and Carter. To be perfectly honest,

3069
02:29:56,320 --> 02:29:59,520
Speaker 1: if I could get my choice of two, I just

3070
02:29:59,560 --> 02:30:02,080
Speaker 1: don't think Cross He's gonna make it. If Carlton Davis

3071
02:30:02,160 --> 02:30:04,879
Speaker 1: is there, I'm making the pick. He's on my team. Okay,

3072
02:30:05,040 --> 02:30:08,320
Speaker 1: I gotta hunch, I gotta hunt. Something's up there. Maybe

3073
02:30:08,760 --> 02:30:13,240
Speaker 1: we don't so far. I'm gonna say that the NFL

3074
02:30:13,320 --> 02:30:16,680
Speaker 1: folks by dropping a guy this far from late in

3075
02:30:16,720 --> 02:30:20,039
Speaker 1: the first round, I'm gonna say they have something going on.

3076
02:30:20,600 --> 02:30:24,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna shy away and he passed rushers attract your attention?

3077
02:30:24,480 --> 02:30:27,320
Speaker 1: How about Dran how about Hand the kid out of

3078
02:30:27,400 --> 02:30:30,560
Speaker 1: Oakland Kid, Alabama. He's a three or four defensive lineman.

3079
02:30:30,600 --> 02:30:32,920
Speaker 1: Your thoughts on him? Is he in the mix here? Well?

3080
02:30:33,160 --> 02:30:37,080
Speaker 1: How about Josh Sweat out of Florida State? How about

3081
02:30:37,080 --> 02:30:40,959
Speaker 1: open hand hands? Interesting? I had him as I have

3082
02:30:41,040 --> 02:30:43,240
Speaker 1: him as a left defensive end, projecting in a four

3083
02:30:43,400 --> 02:30:47,080
Speaker 1: three or maybe even playing some defensive tackle. He's also

3084
02:30:47,120 --> 02:30:49,199
Speaker 1: coming off an m CL. I think he's a defensive

3085
02:30:49,280 --> 02:30:50,960
Speaker 1: end of the three four and the Giants don't have

3086
02:30:52,640 --> 02:30:55,080
Speaker 1: the Giants don't have a second five technique and they

3087
02:30:55,080 --> 02:30:56,880
Speaker 1: well not they don't. They don't run the five technique,

3088
02:30:56,920 --> 02:30:58,920
Speaker 1: but a second three or four defensive end. He plays

3089
02:30:58,959 --> 02:31:01,240
Speaker 1: three four Abama. Yeah, I don't think that's what he's

3090
02:31:01,240 --> 02:31:02,960
Speaker 1: gonna play in the NFL. I've seen a play, so

3091
02:31:03,040 --> 02:31:04,200
Speaker 1: I know he can do it, which is why I

3092
02:31:05,520 --> 02:31:07,160
Speaker 1: don't know about in the NFL. You don't think he's

3093
02:31:07,160 --> 02:31:10,240
Speaker 1: big enough. I don't think so. You might be right? Um,

3094
02:31:10,320 --> 02:31:14,560
Speaker 1: how about obaniah Okaranquo? Does he gets you excited at all? Here? Uh?

3095
02:31:14,680 --> 02:31:17,080
Speaker 1: You know what you're gonna You're gonna laugh here at

3096
02:31:17,080 --> 02:31:19,520
Speaker 1: six to two fifty three. I got him listed as

3097
02:31:19,520 --> 02:31:22,720
Speaker 1: an outside linebacker in A four three. He played stand

3098
02:31:22,800 --> 02:31:25,360
Speaker 1: up three four. He's an edge rusher. I think he's

3099
02:31:25,400 --> 02:31:27,240
Speaker 1: an edg rusher into three four to be honest with you,

3100
02:31:27,640 --> 02:31:31,840
Speaker 1: in my opinion, again, he runs four seven seven, which

3101
02:31:31,879 --> 02:31:34,080
Speaker 1: is not great for a pass rusher. I was like,

3102
02:31:34,200 --> 02:31:36,040
Speaker 1: that's my problem. You haven't to have his three cone

3103
02:31:36,040 --> 02:31:39,680
Speaker 1: in front of miny chance three cone? What do I

3104
02:31:39,760 --> 02:31:46,720
Speaker 1: have here? Seven? That seven oh nine at the Pro day,

3105
02:31:46,920 --> 02:31:50,879
Speaker 1: which isn't great, that's not I'm just I can't I

3106
02:31:50,920 --> 02:31:52,120
Speaker 1: can't be with you on that one here where you

3107
02:31:52,160 --> 02:31:54,879
Speaker 1: got the Jaguars picking at sixty one. Again, the Giants

3108
02:31:54,920 --> 02:31:58,080
Speaker 1: are next at sixty six. I don't know. I don't

3109
02:31:58,080 --> 02:32:01,240
Speaker 1: know my Jaguars. But when he as Brunell's Mark Brunell

3110
02:32:01,920 --> 02:32:05,360
Speaker 1: j U wide receiver l s U who was a

3111
02:32:05,400 --> 02:32:09,920
Speaker 1: fringe first round projection or early second round projection projection,

3112
02:32:10,000 --> 02:32:12,600
Speaker 1: I did not like DJ Truck that high. I didn't

3113
02:32:12,640 --> 02:32:15,240
Speaker 1: like him that much people did. I think he's gone

3114
02:32:15,240 --> 02:32:18,000
Speaker 1: exactly where he's supposed to go. Um, what boy? Wide

3115
02:32:18,000 --> 02:32:20,199
Speaker 1: receivers have just flown off the board in the second

3116
02:32:20,280 --> 02:32:22,080
Speaker 1: round here, Paul, Yeah, I want to go through him

3117
02:32:22,080 --> 02:32:23,920
Speaker 1: real quick, all the guys that have going off the board,

3118
02:32:23,959 --> 02:32:26,720
Speaker 1: because there's been a lot of them. To me, the

3119
02:32:26,760 --> 02:32:29,600
Speaker 1: best wide receiver left and I don't think it's really

3120
02:32:29,640 --> 02:32:32,720
Speaker 1: close either, as I get the same round from Notre Dame.

3121
02:32:33,000 --> 02:32:36,160
Speaker 1: I like Michael Gallup better than him. Okay, well you know,

3122
02:32:36,360 --> 02:32:38,120
Speaker 1: but I think st Brown and him are definitely the

3123
02:32:38,160 --> 02:32:40,880
Speaker 1: next best to Uh. Then you get to the the

3124
02:32:42,000 --> 02:32:45,120
Speaker 1: day Shawn Hamilton's at a Penn State. You get to

3125
02:32:45,160 --> 02:32:47,800
Speaker 1: the you know Deon Kane is still there. Yeah, I'm

3126
02:32:47,800 --> 02:32:49,680
Speaker 1: not a huge Deon King guy. All right, And you

3127
02:32:49,720 --> 02:32:51,920
Speaker 1: have Trey Kwan Smith at a unit as in Central Florida.

3128
02:32:51,920 --> 02:32:54,480
Speaker 1: If you like him, then you mentioned Hamilton's from Penn

3129
02:32:54,480 --> 02:32:57,039
Speaker 1: State who have a slot guy though, really good route runner,

3130
02:32:57,440 --> 02:33:00,879
Speaker 1: very good possession receiver. He's a guy I on a

3131
02:33:00,959 --> 02:33:03,640
Speaker 1: third and four, he'll get you five. He'll get it,

3132
02:33:03,920 --> 02:33:06,560
Speaker 1: he'll get you five. So d J. Chark, he's one

3133
02:33:06,560 --> 02:33:09,040
Speaker 1: of those guys. And here's the funny thing. And guys

3134
02:33:09,080 --> 02:33:11,240
Speaker 1: like DJ Chark confused the hell out of me. He

3135
02:33:11,440 --> 02:33:13,680
Speaker 1: was a four three four, Paul. I watched him at

3136
02:33:13,680 --> 02:33:17,240
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl and one on one drills. You know,

3137
02:33:17,760 --> 02:33:20,200
Speaker 1: with one on one drills against defensive backs, what an

3138
02:33:20,200 --> 02:33:23,080
Speaker 1: advantage that is for the wide receiver. You could not

3139
02:33:23,120 --> 02:33:26,360
Speaker 1: get open? And he was a four three four. Well,

3140
02:33:26,400 --> 02:33:29,119
Speaker 1: you know what's interesting. I wrote about him, John I liked.

3141
02:33:29,200 --> 02:33:33,119
Speaker 1: I like his yak yardage and his quickness. Uh and

3142
02:33:33,120 --> 02:33:35,520
Speaker 1: and I thought that his straight on separation was there.

3143
02:33:35,600 --> 02:33:39,080
Speaker 1: But the things that I knocked them down on lean okay,

3144
02:33:39,120 --> 02:33:43,320
Speaker 1: because he's six a body catcher, doesn't reach out and

3145
02:33:43,360 --> 02:33:47,640
Speaker 1: catch with his hands, and limited route running at L

3146
02:33:47,800 --> 02:33:50,400
Speaker 1: s U, which is part of what you're talking about.

3147
02:33:50,440 --> 02:33:52,840
Speaker 1: Why he couldn't joke guys because he didn't run a

3148
02:33:52,879 --> 02:33:55,600
Speaker 1: lot of complex routes with the Tigers lack of separation

3149
02:33:55,680 --> 02:33:57,040
Speaker 1: at the top of the route and the more I

3150
02:33:57,240 --> 02:33:59,720
Speaker 1: we've done this over the years, Paul, when I look

3151
02:33:59,760 --> 02:34:03,480
Speaker 1: at wide receivers, the most important thing to me, it's

3152
02:34:03,520 --> 02:34:07,000
Speaker 1: not high point balls, it's not contested catches. It's the

3153
02:34:07,040 --> 02:34:09,640
Speaker 1: guy at the top of the rout that can get separation.

3154
02:34:10,120 --> 02:34:12,920
Speaker 1: And d J. Chark can't do that. Guy like Anthony

3155
02:34:12,959 --> 02:34:15,640
Speaker 1: Miller and Calvin Ridley, d J. Moore, they can do that.

3156
02:34:16,480 --> 02:34:18,280
Speaker 1: This guy can't. The vikings are on the board here.

3157
02:34:18,320 --> 02:34:20,840
Speaker 1: Let's see they select with their pick at sixty second

3158
02:34:20,879 --> 02:34:22,959
Speaker 1: over and there were just three picks away from the Giants.

3159
02:34:22,959 --> 02:34:26,199
Speaker 1: There's another tackle, Brian O'Neil, the offensive tackle. I'm actually

3160
02:34:26,200 --> 02:34:29,280
Speaker 1: surprised he lasted this long with his athletic profile. He

3161
02:34:29,360 --> 02:34:31,120
Speaker 1: tested really well at the combine. I think he's a

3162
02:34:31,160 --> 02:34:35,520
Speaker 1: converted tight tight end because I'm not mistakeble and you know,

3163
02:34:35,600 --> 02:34:37,680
Speaker 1: his tapes not great, but he's a guy that has

3164
02:34:38,160 --> 02:34:40,720
Speaker 1: the traits you're looking for at six six, just over

3165
02:34:40,760 --> 02:34:43,800
Speaker 1: three hundred pounds to be a starting left tackle one day.

3166
02:34:43,879 --> 02:34:47,000
Speaker 1: He's just not ready to be a starting left tackle today. Well,

3167
02:34:47,080 --> 02:34:50,760
Speaker 1: he doesn't have the power, and he doesn't anchor very

3168
02:34:50,800 --> 02:34:52,680
Speaker 1: well ed. He's a he's a good athlete, but he's

3169
02:34:52,680 --> 02:34:54,680
Speaker 1: not a great line. Yes, Like they just showed him

3170
02:34:54,720 --> 02:34:56,720
Speaker 1: run an end of round for a touchdown and another one.

3171
02:34:56,959 --> 02:34:59,039
Speaker 1: They just showed two ender rounds for a touchdown on

3172
02:34:59,080 --> 02:35:01,400
Speaker 1: the on the network. Tell as your broadcast. You know,

3173
02:35:01,480 --> 02:35:03,560
Speaker 1: if you're if you're an offensive lineman and you get

3174
02:35:03,640 --> 02:35:06,240
Speaker 1: drafted in the NFL, you'd like to think the highlight

3175
02:35:06,320 --> 02:35:09,199
Speaker 1: would be a pancake or a block of any kind.

3176
02:35:09,360 --> 02:35:12,520
Speaker 1: Perhaps what they showed him running with the ball for

3177
02:35:12,640 --> 02:35:15,879
Speaker 1: two touchdowns. It shows you what a terrific athlete he is.

3178
02:35:15,920 --> 02:35:19,680
Speaker 1: That's great. I love that, But I was not a

3179
02:35:19,680 --> 02:35:21,720
Speaker 1: fan of his. I thought he was probably gonna go

3180
02:35:21,840 --> 02:35:24,600
Speaker 1: third round despite his athleticism. Yeah, I had him behind

3181
02:35:24,680 --> 02:35:27,039
Speaker 1: Crosby to be honest, Well, I think Crosby is a

3182
02:35:27,040 --> 02:35:30,000
Speaker 1: better project. But I assumed, much like the Raiders did

3183
02:35:30,000 --> 02:35:32,440
Speaker 1: for Colton Miller, then NFL team would look at the

3184
02:35:32,480 --> 02:35:34,520
Speaker 1: measurables and say, oh, we gotta get this guy. But

3185
02:35:34,760 --> 02:35:37,200
Speaker 1: he dropped. I think this is about where he belong.

3186
02:35:37,240 --> 02:35:39,000
Speaker 1: I don't think he was overdrafted by too much at

3187
02:35:39,000 --> 02:35:40,520
Speaker 1: the end of round two. I think this is about

3188
02:35:40,760 --> 02:35:42,760
Speaker 1: where he probably deserved to go. All right, we got

3189
02:35:42,760 --> 02:35:44,560
Speaker 1: a few minutes before the Giants pick. Let's squeeze in

3190
02:35:44,560 --> 02:35:46,600
Speaker 1: a couple of calls, Paul, Um, we got three guys

3191
02:35:46,600 --> 02:35:48,000
Speaker 1: in the line. I want to get you in. Let's

3192
02:35:48,040 --> 02:35:50,320
Speaker 1: go to Chris in l A. You go first, Chris,

3193
02:35:50,360 --> 02:35:53,560
Speaker 1: what's up hey, first time ever calling and thank you

3194
02:35:53,600 --> 02:35:58,160
Speaker 1: for taking call. Thanks and Paul, uh and just John,

3195
02:35:58,160 --> 02:36:00,320
Speaker 1: thanks for doing the show every day. And Douce, you're

3196
02:36:00,320 --> 02:36:03,720
Speaker 1: forgetting the great guests on the last few weeks. Has

3197
02:36:03,720 --> 02:36:08,360
Speaker 1: just been amazing. We're glad you could. So I want

3198
02:36:08,400 --> 02:36:10,640
Speaker 1: to talk about David's web because I saw him play

3199
02:36:10,680 --> 02:36:14,199
Speaker 1: in person. Um, I'm a cal fan, girlfriends of Caligrad,

3200
02:36:14,320 --> 02:36:18,440
Speaker 1: best friends that professor up there, so I have some

3201
02:36:18,560 --> 02:36:20,879
Speaker 1: knowledge of him. And you know, he was a transfer,

3202
02:36:21,720 --> 02:36:23,600
Speaker 1: he was a Spring transfer, and then he made a

3203
02:36:23,680 --> 02:36:27,920
Speaker 1: captain immediately. Yes, uh so he's got great leadership skills.

3204
02:36:28,160 --> 02:36:30,680
Speaker 1: And I saw him play against Stanford and in terrible weather,

3205
02:36:31,840 --> 02:36:35,000
Speaker 1: very cold, rainy, foggy day up there in the Bay Area,

3206
02:36:35,680 --> 02:36:38,360
Speaker 1: and um, you hit a quiet four yard game and

3207
02:36:38,480 --> 02:36:41,560
Speaker 1: a couple of touchdowns and um, of all the fans

3208
02:36:41,560 --> 02:36:45,720
Speaker 1: that are concerned about him transferring from that air raid

3209
02:36:45,720 --> 02:36:49,640
Speaker 1: type of offense to the NFL, Baker Mayfield has to

3210
02:36:49,680 --> 02:36:52,680
Speaker 1: do it. Uh, Pat Mahomes has to do it. So

3211
02:36:52,760 --> 02:36:55,160
Speaker 1: that type of offense is coming to the NFL and

3212
02:36:55,160 --> 02:36:58,840
Speaker 1: you're seeing more of that integrated into what they do.

3213
02:36:59,520 --> 02:37:03,400
Speaker 1: Even Kevin Jilbride threw the ball around like that out

3214
02:37:03,400 --> 02:37:06,279
Speaker 1: of the shotgun back into days and we're winning Super Bowls.

3215
02:37:06,560 --> 02:37:10,400
Speaker 1: Different system, go ahead, I I just had different system.

3216
02:37:10,440 --> 02:37:12,280
Speaker 1: And you know the spread he ran a cal is

3217
02:37:12,360 --> 02:37:15,040
Speaker 1: very different than the running shooting, no question. But Kevin

3218
02:37:15,080 --> 02:37:18,039
Speaker 1: did like to throw a deep yes, absolutely right, right,

3219
02:37:18,040 --> 02:37:19,480
Speaker 1: but but it goes chuck out with some of the

3220
02:37:19,520 --> 02:37:22,160
Speaker 1: stilman I think called I did. There's a great game

3221
02:37:22,160 --> 02:37:24,800
Speaker 1: on YouTube, and I think that game against Texas when

3222
02:37:24,840 --> 02:37:28,160
Speaker 1: he was throwing to the sideline and deep pass into

3223
02:37:28,200 --> 02:37:31,000
Speaker 1: the sideline and being very accurate, very reminiscent of that

3224
02:37:31,040 --> 02:37:33,959
Speaker 1: throw that Eli made to Mario Manning hamp You know,

3225
02:37:34,040 --> 02:37:37,640
Speaker 1: Pat Shermer, the coach, the coach here made very specific

3226
02:37:37,720 --> 02:37:40,160
Speaker 1: points when talking about Davis Webb over the course of

3227
02:37:40,200 --> 02:37:42,920
Speaker 1: the last couple of months since he's gotten here. He

3228
02:37:43,160 --> 02:37:45,800
Speaker 1: always says it every time he praises Davis Webb about

3229
02:37:45,840 --> 02:37:51,160
Speaker 1: his strong arm. He can make he can make every throw. Remember,

3230
02:37:51,160 --> 02:37:52,840
Speaker 1: he was a great hockey player in high school. Yes

3231
02:37:52,840 --> 02:37:56,119
Speaker 1: he was. Oh, he watches hockey here at the facility

3232
02:37:56,320 --> 02:37:59,320
Speaker 1: every day. He's he's he's eating, he's lunched, he's got

3233
02:37:59,400 --> 02:38:01,880
Speaker 1: NHL at work on in the lunch room. I mean,

3234
02:38:01,959 --> 02:38:05,080
Speaker 1: the guy loves his hockey. Yeah, and you know they

3235
02:38:05,120 --> 02:38:07,840
Speaker 1: said he was a twelve hour day um student athletes

3236
02:38:08,160 --> 02:38:11,560
Speaker 1: is Derek cal too, So that was the background on him.

3237
02:38:11,600 --> 02:38:13,560
Speaker 1: And he also has the tie that Baker Mayfield. I

3238
02:38:13,560 --> 02:38:18,119
Speaker 1: mean he beat up Baker Mayfield on Mayfield and then

3239
02:38:18,160 --> 02:38:20,080
Speaker 1: Mahomes beat him out when he was injured. And then,

3240
02:38:20,320 --> 02:38:22,160
Speaker 1: like I said, he had that extra eligibility, and he

3241
02:38:22,200 --> 02:38:24,320
Speaker 1: obviously has the smart Baker Mayfield was also a walk

3242
02:38:24,360 --> 02:38:26,040
Speaker 1: on freshman. I'm not going to make too much out

3243
02:38:26,080 --> 02:38:29,680
Speaker 1: of that. No riding and seven quarterbacks at a time,

3244
02:38:29,840 --> 02:38:32,920
Speaker 1: of course. Yeah. So you know, but you know, I

3245
02:38:32,920 --> 02:38:34,960
Speaker 1: think he's gonna be a great player. You know, hopefully

3246
02:38:34,959 --> 02:38:38,240
Speaker 1: you're transition. When Eli decided to hang it up, I

3247
02:38:38,240 --> 02:38:41,000
Speaker 1: still think he's got gas in the tank. That team

3248
02:38:41,080 --> 02:38:43,680
Speaker 1: last year was terrible that he was playing with guys

3249
02:38:43,720 --> 02:38:46,039
Speaker 1: that are wide receivers that we got off the street,

3250
02:38:46,640 --> 02:38:49,560
Speaker 1: and uh, the offensive line was a mess. And we

3251
02:38:49,600 --> 02:38:50,959
Speaker 1: have a long way to go, I think before we're

3252
02:38:51,000 --> 02:38:55,600
Speaker 1: back into um consideration for any titles or divisions. But um,

3253
02:38:55,640 --> 02:38:57,160
Speaker 1: we're on the right path here and I think we

3254
02:38:57,200 --> 02:39:02,120
Speaker 1: can transition uh eli to um David's weft, just like

3255
02:39:02,160 --> 02:39:05,000
Speaker 1: they the Green Bay Packers day Brett Farve to uh

3256
02:39:05,560 --> 02:39:08,320
Speaker 1: to Rodgers. Appreciate, appreciate the thought. I just want to

3257
02:39:08,400 --> 02:39:11,520
Speaker 1: let you know Carlton Davis, the corner out of Auburn

3258
02:39:11,640 --> 02:39:13,680
Speaker 1: just went to the Bucceteers. That's why I put my

3259
02:39:13,720 --> 02:39:17,320
Speaker 1: fist on the table pick number sixty three, just so

3260
02:39:17,440 --> 02:39:19,760
Speaker 1: you know he was my guy there. I appreciate the call,

3261
02:39:19,840 --> 02:39:22,600
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, all right, Uh, I think Johnny

3262
02:39:22,680 --> 02:39:24,680
Speaker 1: or j J Natal let's go to Johnny first in

3263
02:39:24,720 --> 02:39:28,360
Speaker 1: New Jersey, talk about se Kwon Barky. What's up, Johnny? Hey,

3264
02:39:28,760 --> 02:39:31,440
Speaker 1: let me ask you us something we have sa Kwan

3265
02:39:31,520 --> 02:39:33,840
Speaker 1: when we picked that second and I know the shelf

3266
02:39:33,879 --> 02:39:37,440
Speaker 1: life for running backs is kind of short. Do you think,

3267
02:39:37,840 --> 02:39:41,720
Speaker 1: um the Jets, if what's his name? If Donald was

3268
02:39:41,800 --> 02:39:43,720
Speaker 1: playing in ten years and Sa Kwan has done in

3269
02:39:43,800 --> 02:39:46,280
Speaker 1: five years? Do you think the pick is worth it?

3270
02:39:46,400 --> 02:39:49,240
Speaker 1: Even though the shelf life for running backs is so short?

3271
02:39:49,440 --> 02:39:51,160
Speaker 1: What did the Giants do in the five years they

3272
02:39:51,160 --> 02:39:53,280
Speaker 1: have Sa Kwon Barkley on the roster? Do they win

3273
02:39:53,280 --> 02:39:57,080
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl? Then it's worth it? Right? And then

3274
02:39:57,240 --> 02:39:59,320
Speaker 1: I was also hoping if I could switch that into

3275
02:39:59,320 --> 02:40:02,240
Speaker 1: because back to just part up Davis Webb, I heard

3276
02:40:02,280 --> 02:40:04,959
Speaker 1: you looked good these last few days throwing, But would

3277
02:40:04,959 --> 02:40:07,280
Speaker 1: it be crazy if we looked at Rudolph right now

3278
02:40:07,360 --> 02:40:09,600
Speaker 1: because we still need a quarterback for the future and

3279
02:40:09,920 --> 02:40:13,240
Speaker 1: I dasn't that guy, Johnny, I don't sense that's what

3280
02:40:13,320 --> 02:40:16,120
Speaker 1: Dave Gentleman is gonna do. Poll doesn't either. Um. Could

3281
02:40:16,160 --> 02:40:18,000
Speaker 1: you make the argument that it makes sense? Yeah? I

3282
02:40:18,120 --> 02:40:19,880
Speaker 1: think you can make the argument you want to get

3283
02:40:19,879 --> 02:40:22,000
Speaker 1: as much back up for Eli as you can in

3284
02:40:22,040 --> 02:40:25,920
Speaker 1: terms of young quarterbacks. I just don't see it happening. Okay, Yeah,

3285
02:40:25,920 --> 02:40:27,720
Speaker 1: thank you guys so much, and keep on doing the

3286
02:40:27,760 --> 02:40:29,600
Speaker 1: South well then, thank you, Johnny. Appreciate all right. JJ

3287
02:40:29,680 --> 02:40:31,200
Speaker 1: has been holding too. Now I want to squeeze j

3288
02:40:31,320 --> 02:40:32,520
Speaker 1: j N because the Giant is gonna be in the

3289
02:40:32,560 --> 02:40:34,160
Speaker 1: clock in a couple of minutes. I want to make

3290
02:40:34,160 --> 02:40:35,720
Speaker 1: sure j J gets a shot. Go ahead, j J?

3291
02:40:37,160 --> 02:40:39,879
Speaker 1: All right, man, Hey, what's up guys? When I'm out

3292
02:40:39,879 --> 02:40:42,000
Speaker 1: here and therewith Mary and I'm a giant sham my

3293
02:40:42,080 --> 02:40:44,880
Speaker 1: mind from Jersey and I've been watching him since the

3294
02:40:44,959 --> 02:40:48,080
Speaker 1: Jim Bird and Lawrence Dallas days. But with that being said, no,

3295
02:40:48,720 --> 02:40:52,880
Speaker 1: I don't mind the pick and the decision to move

3296
02:40:52,920 --> 02:40:55,200
Speaker 1: were with Eli and all that. But you know, I

3297
02:40:55,240 --> 02:40:58,440
Speaker 1: look at a lot of different coaches and what's really

3298
02:40:58,520 --> 02:41:01,720
Speaker 1: interesting to me is at this new regime, what is

3299
02:41:01,720 --> 02:41:04,720
Speaker 1: going to be the team's attitude? Because by the time

3300
02:41:04,760 --> 02:41:07,640
Speaker 1: you drafted a player and you put your due diligence,

3301
02:41:08,000 --> 02:41:11,840
Speaker 1: you know what their weaknesses and you're playing to coach

3302
02:41:11,920 --> 02:41:16,920
Speaker 1: that weakness and the effectiveness of it. Since Betton McAdoo

3303
02:41:17,080 --> 02:41:21,680
Speaker 1: was so you know, lacking in that category. So you know,

3304
02:41:21,760 --> 02:41:26,160
Speaker 1: with the Pat Schimer and and uh Gentleman regime, you know,

3305
02:41:26,200 --> 02:41:30,480
Speaker 1: how are they gonna address installing a decent attitude and

3306
02:41:30,520 --> 02:41:32,640
Speaker 1: work ethic with all these young players? You know what

3307
02:41:32,680 --> 02:41:36,040
Speaker 1: I mean? Eli, He's got Davis and you know, and

3308
02:41:36,480 --> 02:41:38,280
Speaker 1: I feel good about Davis. I feel good about the

3309
02:41:38,360 --> 02:41:40,800
Speaker 1: roster and the direction in the picts and all that.

3310
02:41:41,080 --> 02:41:44,840
Speaker 1: I'm very satisfied. As a giant thing. I just want

3311
02:41:44,879 --> 02:41:48,120
Speaker 1: to know, you know, how do you think they'll do

3312
02:41:48,879 --> 02:41:53,320
Speaker 1: with coaching the weaknesses of the roster that we have. Well,

3313
02:41:53,400 --> 02:41:55,080
Speaker 1: part of the way they're going to do that is

3314
02:41:55,120 --> 02:41:57,840
Speaker 1: that they brought in about a dozen guys during the

3315
02:41:57,879 --> 02:42:00,480
Speaker 1: early part of the off season, whether via raid or

3316
02:42:00,600 --> 02:42:04,160
Speaker 1: free agency, and most of those guys have a connection

3317
02:42:04,240 --> 02:42:07,400
Speaker 1: to somebody on this coaching staff in one way or another.

3318
02:42:07,920 --> 02:42:10,720
Speaker 1: So we're talking about all guys who are high character

3319
02:42:10,800 --> 02:42:14,199
Speaker 1: guys and all guys who have worked with at least

3320
02:42:14,200 --> 02:42:16,840
Speaker 1: one member of the staff in one way, shape or form.

3321
02:42:16,879 --> 02:42:20,080
Speaker 1: So they will not only help translate and communicate what

3322
02:42:20,160 --> 02:42:22,560
Speaker 1: this new staff wants, but they can also set an

3323
02:42:22,600 --> 02:42:25,200
Speaker 1: example for some of the other guys as to what

3324
02:42:25,280 --> 02:42:27,600
Speaker 1: this staff wants. And I think that was a very

3325
02:42:27,600 --> 02:42:30,920
Speaker 1: intentional part of what Dave Gettleman did. Stewart sold are

3326
02:42:31,000 --> 02:42:33,040
Speaker 1: these veterans are gonna be a big, big part of

3327
02:42:33,120 --> 02:42:35,440
Speaker 1: trying to get that locker room back where he wants

3328
02:42:35,440 --> 02:42:37,160
Speaker 1: it j J. Thanks to the calling Man, we Gotta run.

3329
02:42:37,520 --> 02:42:40,400
Speaker 1: We are at pick sixty with the Oakland Raiders. The

3330
02:42:40,480 --> 02:42:43,200
Speaker 1: Giants will be on the clock. Next first pick of

3331
02:42:43,280 --> 02:42:45,800
Speaker 1: round number three, Taekwon Lewis just winning the final pick

3332
02:42:45,840 --> 02:42:49,720
Speaker 1: of round number two to the Indianapolis Colts. And I

3333
02:42:49,800 --> 02:42:52,520
Speaker 1: am now going to say, since Carlton Davis and that

3334
02:42:52,600 --> 02:42:55,440
Speaker 1: Tatino jinks continue since I mentioned him a few picks

3335
02:42:55,440 --> 02:42:58,240
Speaker 1: ago for the Giants, he has been taken by the

3336
02:42:58,280 --> 02:43:02,440
Speaker 1: Buccaneers at pick six the three. So I'm now going

3337
02:43:02,480 --> 02:43:08,840
Speaker 1: to switch off. Everybody quiet, don'tal anybody, Okay, So who

3338
02:43:08,840 --> 02:43:13,000
Speaker 1: do you want? Paul, I'm gonna go with Crosby and

3339
02:43:13,080 --> 02:43:16,879
Speaker 1: Carter for my two guys for the Giants early in

3340
02:43:16,920 --> 02:43:20,920
Speaker 1: the third round. But everybody keep it quiet or somebody's

3341
02:43:20,959 --> 02:43:22,840
Speaker 1: gonna steal. Don't mean to tell you who. I think

3342
02:43:22,840 --> 02:43:24,440
Speaker 1: they're gonna pick where I want them to pick, because

3343
02:43:24,480 --> 02:43:27,520
Speaker 1: I think they're they're they're two different answers. I'm gonna

3344
02:43:27,600 --> 02:43:30,039
Speaker 1: to who I would pick. Raiders are picking now, so

3345
02:43:30,080 --> 02:43:32,240
Speaker 1: you better be quick. I would pick. I would take

3346
02:43:32,280 --> 02:43:34,640
Speaker 1: Jamarco Jones, the offensive tackle on to Ohio State. I

3347
02:43:34,640 --> 02:43:37,480
Speaker 1: know you do like him, and I know card is

3348
02:43:37,520 --> 02:43:41,160
Speaker 1: a great athlete. I think this team needs another cover linebacker.

3349
02:43:41,360 --> 02:43:43,879
Speaker 1: I like Ogle Tree as a thumper. Um I like

3350
02:43:43,959 --> 02:43:46,200
Speaker 1: Fred Warner out of b y U as a linebacker.

3351
02:43:46,760 --> 02:43:50,080
Speaker 1: Those would be my two choices. I think they'll pick

3352
02:43:50,160 --> 02:43:53,520
Speaker 1: Crosby with the next pick in the third round, and

3353
02:43:54,640 --> 02:43:56,600
Speaker 1: none of the other cornerbacks. I'd love to find the

3354
02:43:56,640 --> 02:43:58,640
Speaker 1: corner here, Paul that I really like, but I don't.

3355
02:43:59,280 --> 02:44:02,959
Speaker 1: I don't see that I'm in love with. Alright, the

3356
02:44:03,000 --> 02:44:05,680
Speaker 1: Giants are on the clock, are on the clock. Alright, Alright,

3357
02:44:05,680 --> 02:44:07,879
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say they're gonna pick Crosby and I'm gonna

3358
02:44:07,879 --> 02:44:10,120
Speaker 1: say they gonna pick Anthony Averett. How about that? Out

3359
02:44:10,120 --> 02:44:12,840
Speaker 1: of Alabama. Anthony Average is another guy who was on

3360
02:44:12,879 --> 02:44:16,440
Speaker 1: my radar, but but I have him just a notch

3361
02:44:16,520 --> 02:44:18,959
Speaker 1: down below the guys who were at this value fund.

3362
02:44:19,040 --> 02:44:21,720
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna I'm gonna go with Crosby and Averett.

3363
02:44:21,840 --> 02:44:23,360
Speaker 1: Those are the two guys I think they're gonna take.

3364
02:44:23,360 --> 02:44:27,160
Speaker 1: But I would like Joan Jamalco Jones and Fred Warner

3365
02:44:27,680 --> 02:44:29,640
Speaker 1: and the Raiders pick his in The Giants are on

3366
02:44:29,680 --> 02:44:32,600
Speaker 1: the clock here, uh pick sixty six and round number two.

3367
02:44:32,760 --> 02:44:35,480
Speaker 1: The Raiders will select to pick sixty five first. Obviously,

3368
02:44:35,800 --> 02:44:38,080
Speaker 1: then you have two selections before the Giants are up

3369
02:44:38,080 --> 02:44:40,240
Speaker 1: at sixty nine. That was the draft pick they got

3370
02:44:40,240 --> 02:44:42,959
Speaker 1: from Tampa Bay in the trade for Jason Pierre. Paul

3371
02:44:43,760 --> 02:44:46,640
Speaker 1: I had average, uh, a little not as strong as

3372
02:44:46,640 --> 02:44:48,440
Speaker 1: I wanted him to be. I thought when he got

3373
02:44:48,480 --> 02:44:50,760
Speaker 1: to the pro level he would have some trouble with

3374
02:44:50,760 --> 02:44:54,240
Speaker 1: with strength fighting off some of these receivers and and

3375
02:44:54,280 --> 02:44:56,400
Speaker 1: being able to fight them for the ball. I did

3376
02:44:56,400 --> 02:44:58,360
Speaker 1: not think that that was where it needed to be.

3377
02:44:58,400 --> 02:45:01,000
Speaker 1: But it's something you can certainly ray ease the level

3378
02:45:01,040 --> 02:45:03,240
Speaker 1: of a guy strength and get him in the weight room.

3379
02:45:04,240 --> 02:45:07,680
Speaker 1: I like him and I absolutely would take him if

3380
02:45:07,680 --> 02:45:10,360
Speaker 1: he was there in the fourth round, four, three, six.

3381
02:45:10,480 --> 02:45:12,760
Speaker 1: He's got the speed. I'm not questioning that at all.

3382
02:45:12,760 --> 02:45:15,880
Speaker 1: It's his physicality. I'm a little concerned some pounds, so

3383
02:45:16,040 --> 02:45:18,640
Speaker 1: that that makes sense. I'm with you, you know, I, Paul,

3384
02:45:18,680 --> 02:45:20,560
Speaker 1: I just think it's really important to get a corner.

3385
02:45:21,160 --> 02:45:24,080
Speaker 1: And I don't I like, you know, I like I

3386
02:45:24,120 --> 02:45:25,880
Speaker 1: would not be upset they picked the guys you liked.

3387
02:45:25,879 --> 02:45:27,440
Speaker 1: I like Lorenzo Carda. I think he's a really good

3388
02:45:27,480 --> 02:45:30,480
Speaker 1: there's needs at all three of those positions. Absolutely, and

3389
02:45:30,520 --> 02:45:32,760
Speaker 1: I wish that one of those other corners had dropped.

3390
02:45:32,760 --> 02:45:35,000
Speaker 1: But it might be a reach to pick a corner here.

3391
02:45:35,000 --> 02:45:36,880
Speaker 1: It's a good point. I I think Carter would be

3392
02:45:36,920 --> 02:45:39,480
Speaker 1: the upside pick if you want to take would take

3393
02:45:39,959 --> 02:45:41,760
Speaker 1: Would they take the defensive and think he's more of

3394
02:45:41,760 --> 02:45:45,040
Speaker 1: a four three D I wouldn't take him, But if

3395
02:45:45,040 --> 02:45:46,800
Speaker 1: they did, would you be shocked? No? And he's a

3396
02:45:46,800 --> 02:45:48,800
Speaker 1: good player, so I wouldn't be upset about it. Sixty

3397
02:45:48,879 --> 02:45:51,120
Speaker 1: five is being called out by the Raiders finally, as

3398
02:45:51,160 --> 02:45:54,400
Speaker 1: the Giants remain on the clock and the Raiders uh

3399
02:45:54,640 --> 02:45:57,920
Speaker 1: get their pick out to the crowd. Brandon Parker, North

3400
02:45:57,920 --> 02:46:02,000
Speaker 1: Carolina A and T offense some tackle. He is a raw,

3401
02:46:02,120 --> 02:46:05,400
Speaker 1: raw guy. He was at the Senior Bowl. I actually

3402
02:46:05,400 --> 02:46:07,960
Speaker 1: had a conversation with Brandon Parker at the Senior Bowl

3403
02:46:08,120 --> 02:46:11,240
Speaker 1: from North Carolina. Anti if I remember right, you starter

3404
02:46:11,320 --> 02:46:14,360
Speaker 1: at left tackle for them. Yes, he's he's an athletic guy.

3405
02:46:14,520 --> 02:46:17,160
Speaker 1: He's not the biggest guy in the world though, UM,

3406
02:46:17,200 --> 02:46:19,959
Speaker 1: and I think they won there. How much UM that's

3407
02:46:20,000 --> 02:46:23,160
Speaker 1: gonna transfer. He's six seven and a half three oh five,

3408
02:46:23,240 --> 02:46:25,400
Speaker 1: so he's a big dude in terms of height. He's

3409
02:46:25,440 --> 02:46:28,080
Speaker 1: got a good reach. His arm length came in the

3410
02:46:28,200 --> 02:46:32,160
Speaker 1: thirty five inches for arm length, which is fantastic for

3411
02:46:32,200 --> 02:46:35,480
Speaker 1: an offensive tackle. But North Carolina Anti obviously a very

3412
02:46:35,520 --> 02:46:38,480
Speaker 1: low level program, and I wonder hasn't been a transferred

3413
02:46:38,480 --> 02:46:40,959
Speaker 1: to the NFL level, especially on the offensive line. That

3414
02:46:41,040 --> 02:46:42,879
Speaker 1: could sometimes take a year or two for the guy

3415
02:46:42,879 --> 02:46:44,240
Speaker 1: to get used to that. And again, I like to

3416
02:46:44,280 --> 02:46:46,720
Speaker 1: have a soft spot for some of the lower competition guys,

3417
02:46:46,760 --> 02:46:49,240
Speaker 1: but it is something when you're that low in competition,

3418
02:46:49,360 --> 02:46:51,800
Speaker 1: that's a big jump now. And then also they drafted

3419
02:46:51,800 --> 02:46:54,720
Speaker 1: Colton Miller yesterday, so that's two offensive tackles they brought in.

3420
02:46:55,000 --> 02:46:57,600
Speaker 1: And by the way, two guys with similar profile. Giants

3421
02:46:57,600 --> 02:47:02,320
Speaker 1: pick is already in once again, Dave gettleman with lightning quickness,

3422
02:47:03,240 --> 02:47:05,520
Speaker 1: hustling the pick up to the podium. He's not the

3423
02:47:05,560 --> 02:47:12,640
Speaker 1: one running it up himself. This is true. He's here.

3424
02:47:13,240 --> 02:47:15,800
Speaker 1: We have our good buddies, Patrick Hanscom, one of our

3425
02:47:15,840 --> 02:47:18,200
Speaker 1: members of our scouting staff down in Dallas Buckets, who

3426
02:47:18,240 --> 02:47:19,920
Speaker 1: was taking care of that down there. Yeah, I did

3427
02:47:19,920 --> 02:47:23,800
Speaker 1: not think that Crosby would be here. So that's why

3428
02:47:24,200 --> 02:47:26,720
Speaker 1: you know, I'm still gonna go for Carter with the

3429
02:47:26,760 --> 02:47:29,400
Speaker 1: next pick. I'm gonna make Crosby my first third round pick,

3430
02:47:29,440 --> 02:47:32,640
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna go Lorenzo Carter with my second third

3431
02:47:32,720 --> 02:47:35,120
Speaker 1: round pick. Now, he doesn't play with quite the physicality,

3432
02:47:35,200 --> 02:47:37,440
Speaker 1: but his body type and size actually reminds me a

3433
02:47:37,480 --> 02:47:39,840
Speaker 1: little bit of Cree mackenzie. Um the way he kind

3434
02:47:39,840 --> 02:47:42,680
Speaker 1: of sits there and stands. He's not the physical maler

3435
02:47:42,800 --> 02:47:44,520
Speaker 1: that Mackenzie is. I think that's actually one of the

3436
02:47:44,560 --> 02:47:47,560
Speaker 1: weaknesses in his game. He's not physical enough. But I

3437
02:47:47,560 --> 02:47:49,480
Speaker 1: think he's a future right tackle. I'm not sure if

3438
02:47:49,480 --> 02:47:51,320
Speaker 1: he hasn't to be a left tackle. He's struggled a

3439
02:47:51,360 --> 02:47:55,320
Speaker 1: little bit. No, they don't, which is fine. Um, I

3440
02:47:55,360 --> 02:47:57,920
Speaker 1: think he would. I think he's a guy that has

3441
02:47:57,959 --> 02:48:00,440
Speaker 1: a chance at earning a starting spot as a rookie.

3442
02:48:00,520 --> 02:48:02,039
Speaker 1: I think it takes some development, there will be some

3443
02:48:02,120 --> 02:48:04,560
Speaker 1: rough stretches along the way, but in the third round

3444
02:48:04,560 --> 02:48:07,000
Speaker 1: to get an offensive tackle that you think can start

3445
02:48:07,000 --> 02:48:09,520
Speaker 1: in year one if everything goes right, that's a very

3446
02:48:09,600 --> 02:48:11,680
Speaker 1: high quality pick right there. Did have a bit of

3447
02:48:11,680 --> 02:48:15,039
Speaker 1: a foot issue when he was at Oregon, but overcame

3448
02:48:15,080 --> 02:48:17,960
Speaker 1: that it was minor. Um. I had some people tell

3449
02:48:18,000 --> 02:48:21,760
Speaker 1: me because I jotted the the the notation down that

3450
02:48:21,800 --> 02:48:24,240
Speaker 1: he may actually be uh able to also play some

3451
02:48:24,280 --> 02:48:27,160
Speaker 1: guard in the NFL. Believe it or not. I agree

3452
02:48:27,160 --> 02:48:29,879
Speaker 1: with that. So so you know this, this would be

3453
02:48:29,920 --> 02:48:33,039
Speaker 1: another one of those offensive lineman who has versatility and

3454
02:48:33,040 --> 02:48:35,360
Speaker 1: brings it to the table. Hernandez. By the way, if

3455
02:48:35,400 --> 02:48:38,400
Speaker 1: we didn't mention it before, and I apologize, he's strictly

3456
02:48:38,400 --> 02:48:41,360
Speaker 1: a guard. He's not playing anything else. He never played

3457
02:48:41,400 --> 02:48:43,920
Speaker 1: center in college, didn't play tackle in college, and his

3458
02:48:44,000 --> 02:48:47,400
Speaker 1: body type and skill set indicates he is a power guard.

3459
02:48:48,120 --> 02:48:52,600
Speaker 1: Crosby again projection possibility of guard. But he would be

3460
02:48:52,640 --> 02:48:55,000
Speaker 1: in my mind a a right tackle. He has played

3461
02:48:55,040 --> 02:48:59,800
Speaker 1: both right tackle and left tackle in college with the Ducks. Uh.

3462
02:48:59,840 --> 02:49:02,959
Speaker 1: I had him down as being very agile with a

3463
02:49:02,959 --> 02:49:07,080
Speaker 1: good punch, gets to the second level, quick feet, um,

3464
02:49:07,120 --> 02:49:10,000
Speaker 1: you know, good off the snap, with a quick move

3465
02:49:10,080 --> 02:49:12,680
Speaker 1: coming off of the snap. What I said he had

3466
02:49:12,680 --> 02:49:16,040
Speaker 1: to anchor or do better on with more power, chisel

3467
02:49:16,160 --> 02:49:19,480
Speaker 1: his body get getting a little more conditioning and more

3468
02:49:19,520 --> 02:49:22,320
Speaker 1: power and also anchor a little bit better in the

3469
02:49:22,360 --> 02:49:25,039
Speaker 1: lower body. I mean, he's got good technique in his anchor,

3470
02:49:25,080 --> 02:49:26,920
Speaker 1: but I didn't think he had a lot of weight

3471
02:49:26,920 --> 02:49:29,400
Speaker 1: in the caboose. Yeah, I agree, which is why I

3472
02:49:29,400 --> 02:49:31,800
Speaker 1: said I don't think he's the maller that he's not

3473
02:49:32,400 --> 02:49:34,760
Speaker 1: McKenzie is, but remember he played left tackled Oregan. We

3474
02:49:34,800 --> 02:49:37,000
Speaker 1: know the type of offense that Oregon role played both

3475
02:49:37,000 --> 02:49:39,160
Speaker 1: both tackles, which is good, but again, you know the

3476
02:49:39,200 --> 02:49:41,200
Speaker 1: type of offense that Oregon runs, so they're not he

3477
02:49:41,520 --> 02:49:44,320
Speaker 1: I get. I guarantee probably wasn't a three point stance

3478
02:49:44,720 --> 02:49:46,480
Speaker 1: hardly at all at that school. So that's gonna be

3479
02:49:46,480 --> 02:49:49,200
Speaker 1: an adjustment. He's gonna have to make yes, yes at

3480
02:49:49,240 --> 02:49:51,400
Speaker 1: the pro level, which is why probably some of his

3481
02:49:51,480 --> 02:49:53,600
Speaker 1: run game blocking and stuff like that isn't as physical

3482
02:49:54,040 --> 02:49:55,320
Speaker 1: as you would like it. He was also with the

3483
02:49:55,320 --> 02:49:57,280
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl, by the way, Tyroll Crosby and I thought

3484
02:49:57,400 --> 02:49:59,959
Speaker 1: he actually had a better Senior Bowl than Brian O'Neil.

3485
02:50:00,080 --> 02:50:03,480
Speaker 1: Chris Canty is stepping up there. He's getting ready to

3486
02:50:03,520 --> 02:50:06,560
Speaker 1: take over the podium. Troy Vincent has replaced Roger Gerdell

3487
02:50:06,640 --> 02:50:07,800
Speaker 1: up there too. By the way, I'm looking for the

3488
02:50:07,800 --> 02:50:12,000
Speaker 1: big seas or Carter Well. Kennedy could be picking somebody

3489
02:50:12,040 --> 02:50:14,520
Speaker 1: that's not quite as tall as he is, but someone

3490
02:50:14,560 --> 02:50:16,040
Speaker 1: that's nearly as tall as he as. We'll see you

3491
02:50:16,120 --> 02:50:18,520
Speaker 1: the Giants select here. As Chris Canty is at the

3492
02:50:18,560 --> 02:50:21,440
Speaker 1: podium trying to pump some people up as he makes

3493
02:50:21,440 --> 02:50:24,600
Speaker 1: the Giants selection with the sixty six overall pick, the

3494
02:50:24,640 --> 02:50:27,200
Speaker 1: Giants first third round pick, they do pick again at

3495
02:50:27,240 --> 02:50:28,959
Speaker 1: sixty nine. Will it be a tackle, Will it be

3496
02:50:29,000 --> 02:50:31,320
Speaker 1: a corner? Will it be a linebacker? Will be something

3497
02:50:31,320 --> 02:50:34,760
Speaker 1: we did not think about heading into this pick. Dave Gentleman,

3498
02:50:34,840 --> 02:50:36,920
Speaker 1: he got the picking quick. He knows who he wanted,

3499
02:50:37,000 --> 02:50:42,760
Speaker 1: and he selects Lorenzo car Baby, linebacker out of Georgia.

3500
02:50:43,320 --> 02:50:46,840
Speaker 1: I'm with three for three, and that's and that that

3501
02:50:46,959 --> 02:50:49,320
Speaker 1: was a hard one. The other two were easy. I

3502
02:50:49,360 --> 02:50:51,760
Speaker 1: don't think that the Carter was a little bit, a

3503
02:50:51,800 --> 02:50:56,600
Speaker 1: little bit. Lorenzo Carter weak side, strong side, put him

3504
02:50:56,640 --> 02:51:01,080
Speaker 1: anywhere you like he could. He he he is versatile again,

3505
02:51:01,400 --> 02:51:06,160
Speaker 1: not a stap monger, not with tremendous not with tremendous

3506
02:51:06,200 --> 02:51:09,280
Speaker 1: numbers and production. He's one of those projection guys. He's

3507
02:51:09,280 --> 02:51:11,320
Speaker 1: a guy that you can draft for his traits and

3508
02:51:11,400 --> 02:51:14,440
Speaker 1: you have to coach him up to fit him in

3509
02:51:14,520 --> 02:51:16,600
Speaker 1: on the NFL field, to figure out exactly where he's

3510
02:51:16,640 --> 02:51:18,840
Speaker 1: gonna wind up. And Paul, look, this team also needs

3511
02:51:18,840 --> 02:51:22,080
Speaker 1: pass rushers. He's a guy that on third down. I

3512
02:51:22,080 --> 02:51:25,240
Speaker 1: know he's a linebacker, but he can put his hand

3513
02:51:25,320 --> 02:51:27,200
Speaker 1: in the dirt and get after the quarterback at six.

3514
02:51:28,200 --> 02:51:29,760
Speaker 1: He's the guy who can use as a pass rustaurant

3515
02:51:29,720 --> 02:51:32,959
Speaker 1: on third down. There's no question about it. So Carter,

3516
02:51:33,040 --> 02:51:35,040
Speaker 1: what do I have? I have for him? Okay, here's

3517
02:51:35,040 --> 02:51:38,879
Speaker 1: what I wrote. I love his frame, his ability to

3518
02:51:38,920 --> 02:51:43,160
Speaker 1: shed blocks. I wrote down he's got range, he can

3519
02:51:43,200 --> 02:51:47,360
Speaker 1: get to the quarterbacks straight ahead speed. And I wrote

3520
02:51:47,400 --> 02:51:50,480
Speaker 1: down questionable on cover because he didn't do a lot

3521
02:51:50,520 --> 02:51:52,600
Speaker 1: of coverage. Wasn't asked to do that. Didn't do much

3522
02:51:52,600 --> 02:51:54,560
Speaker 1: of that, and you do a lot of backup. I

3523
02:51:54,680 --> 02:51:59,080
Speaker 1: put down his immediate change of direction quickness off the line.

3524
02:51:59,120 --> 02:52:01,600
Speaker 1: Once again, he wasn't asked to do it, so that's

3525
02:52:01,640 --> 02:52:04,240
Speaker 1: a question mark. And I also wrote down simply put

3526
02:52:04,360 --> 02:52:07,520
Speaker 1: stats because he was not a stat filler. That's not

3527
02:52:07,600 --> 02:52:10,760
Speaker 1: what he did. He's just a pure football player and

3528
02:52:10,800 --> 02:52:13,439
Speaker 1: he comes from a heck of a program, the Georgia Bulldogs.

3529
02:52:13,440 --> 02:52:16,600
Speaker 1: And this is the summary from Dame Bruegler's draft guide

3530
02:52:16,800 --> 02:52:22,199
Speaker 1: on Mr Carter very quickly. Overall, Carter has enticing athleticism, length,

3531
02:52:22,240 --> 02:52:25,320
Speaker 1: and versatility to play an outside linebacker role in any

3532
02:52:25,400 --> 02:52:28,600
Speaker 1: NFL scheme, but he needs to get stronger and develop

3533
02:52:28,680 --> 02:52:32,120
Speaker 1: his diagnosed skills to land and secure starting job. Freaky

3534
02:52:32,160 --> 02:52:35,720
Speaker 1: athleticism and length will half him drafted high, maybe as

3535
02:52:35,760 --> 02:52:37,720
Speaker 1: early as the top of the first round. But of

3536
02:52:37,720 --> 02:52:39,960
Speaker 1: course the Giants get him in round three, which means

3537
02:52:39,959 --> 02:52:42,120
Speaker 1: he wasn't overdrafted and they got him exactly where he

3538
02:52:42,120 --> 02:52:44,000
Speaker 1: should have gotten picked, which is why it's such a

3539
02:52:44,000 --> 02:52:48,320
Speaker 1: good selection by Dave Gentleman. Value meets need on all

3540
02:52:48,640 --> 02:52:52,280
Speaker 1: three of the Giants picks so far, John, How could

3541
02:52:52,320 --> 02:52:55,600
Speaker 1: anybody possibly complain? And the reason why the Carter pick

3542
02:52:55,720 --> 02:52:58,360
Speaker 1: makes so much sense that I like it, Paul is

3543
02:52:58,800 --> 02:53:01,560
Speaker 1: you mentioned his verse ability, so he can be a

3544
02:53:01,640 --> 02:53:03,640
Speaker 1: run and chase linebacker if you need him too, because

3545
02:53:03,640 --> 02:53:06,320
Speaker 1: of his speed. But again, like I said before, Paul,

3546
02:53:06,480 --> 02:53:08,800
Speaker 1: he can put his hand in the dirt and rush

3547
02:53:08,879 --> 02:53:11,440
Speaker 1: the quarterback. He had five sacks as a junior. He

3548
02:53:11,520 --> 02:53:13,600
Speaker 1: had four and a half sacks. As a senior, he

3549
02:53:13,640 --> 02:53:15,760
Speaker 1: had four and a half sacks starting just five games

3550
02:53:15,760 --> 02:53:18,920
Speaker 1: as a freshman. This guy can get after the quarterback

3551
02:53:19,280 --> 02:53:21,879
Speaker 1: and I think that's a big part of this selection.

3552
02:53:22,320 --> 02:53:25,800
Speaker 1: And he's one of these athletic weapons that James Betcher

3553
02:53:25,920 --> 02:53:28,600
Speaker 1: loves to have on his team. You know, he can

3554
02:53:28,600 --> 02:53:30,600
Speaker 1: put him in a bunch of different spots. You confuse

3555
02:53:30,680 --> 02:53:33,120
Speaker 1: defenses with him, bus he's so versatile, and I think

3556
02:53:33,160 --> 02:53:35,760
Speaker 1: it's a really, really, really good fit. And this is

3557
02:53:35,800 --> 02:53:37,640
Speaker 1: the guy that we talked about a lot leading up

3558
02:53:37,640 --> 02:53:39,760
Speaker 1: to this, that he was a guy in around three

3559
02:53:39,800 --> 02:53:41,560
Speaker 1: that if he's there, you would target. In fact, and

3560
02:53:41,640 --> 02:53:43,920
Speaker 1: a lot of fans actually sent me mock drafts with

3561
02:53:43,959 --> 02:53:45,560
Speaker 1: there getting Carter on around three, and I think we

3562
02:53:45,640 --> 02:53:48,160
Speaker 1: told him he's not gonna be there around three, and

3563
02:53:48,320 --> 02:53:50,440
Speaker 1: I didn't think he was gonna be there in round three,

3564
02:53:50,480 --> 02:53:52,920
Speaker 1: but at this part of the third round, I thought

3565
02:53:53,160 --> 02:53:54,959
Speaker 1: top of the second round was too rich for Quarter.

3566
02:53:55,440 --> 02:53:57,959
Speaker 1: I think this is a great spot for Quarter, and

3567
02:53:58,000 --> 02:53:59,680
Speaker 1: I think he's a very very good fit at the

3568
02:53:59,680 --> 02:54:02,560
Speaker 1: top of round three for the Giants. Yeah, now guess what,

3569
02:54:03,080 --> 02:54:06,000
Speaker 1: uh we are at pick number sixty eight. Detections are

3570
02:54:06,000 --> 02:54:08,760
Speaker 1: already on the board, and so the Giants are now

3571
02:54:08,800 --> 02:54:11,440
Speaker 1: only you pick away as Houston is about to announce there,

3572
02:54:11,560 --> 02:54:14,240
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go Crosby here. You know, I wanted

3573
02:54:14,240 --> 02:54:17,640
Speaker 1: the two seeds. I wanted Carterbine Crosby. I'm gonna Crosby

3574
02:54:17,680 --> 02:54:19,360
Speaker 1: should not be here, by the way, real quick. One

3575
02:54:19,360 --> 02:54:22,760
Speaker 1: more thing on Carter, real fast pall Uh Kenley Platt

3576
02:54:22,800 --> 02:54:25,000
Speaker 1: who does the relative athletics scores and he does the

3577
02:54:25,240 --> 02:54:30,440
Speaker 1: computation safety justin Reid Stanford to Houston UM Lorenzo Carter

3578
02:54:31,879 --> 02:54:37,640
Speaker 1: ranked number one out of every linebacker ever tested on

3579
02:54:37,720 --> 02:54:41,959
Speaker 1: the r A S at ten out of ten. His

3580
02:54:42,080 --> 02:54:47,720
Speaker 1: athletic skills are unmistakable correct. But again also keep in mind,

3581
02:54:47,920 --> 02:54:49,480
Speaker 1: look at the team he played for. You don't know

3582
02:54:49,480 --> 02:54:53,640
Speaker 1: how equality players were on that defense, which is one

3583
02:54:53,640 --> 02:54:56,520
Speaker 1: of the reasons why you can't kill him for not

3584
02:54:56,600 --> 02:54:59,800
Speaker 1: having huge stats because there are only so many tackles

3585
02:54:59,800 --> 02:55:02,720
Speaker 1: in he plays to go around. You follow I do.

3586
02:55:03,280 --> 02:55:06,080
Speaker 1: He's a guy that you know. Coach McGovern will now

3587
02:55:06,080 --> 02:55:08,200
Speaker 1: have a chance to coach him up the Giants linebackers

3588
02:55:08,240 --> 02:55:10,800
Speaker 1: coach and turn him into a really good football play

3589
02:55:10,840 --> 02:55:14,640
Speaker 1: again with Betcher's versatile scheme where he wants guys to

3590
02:55:14,720 --> 02:55:17,039
Speaker 1: be guessing on the other side of the ball as

3591
02:55:17,080 --> 02:55:20,800
Speaker 1: he looks to move his defensive players around. Lorenz O'carter

3592
02:55:21,440 --> 02:55:24,840
Speaker 1: is that guy who really will help out quite a

3593
02:55:24,840 --> 02:55:27,119
Speaker 1: bit in that scenario. And by the way, Chad Thomas

3594
02:55:27,120 --> 02:55:29,480
Speaker 1: defensive in Miami went to the Colts at sixty seven.

3595
02:55:29,520 --> 02:55:32,680
Speaker 1: By the way, before Justin Reid went to the Texans

3596
02:55:32,720 --> 02:55:34,880
Speaker 1: at sixty eight. So the Giants at the clock at

3597
02:55:34,920 --> 02:55:36,920
Speaker 1: sixty nine, and look, I think, and the pick is

3598
02:55:36,920 --> 02:55:39,520
Speaker 1: it's already again wasting no time. And look, I think

3599
02:55:39,600 --> 02:55:42,760
Speaker 1: offensive tackle is where you go here. Whether it's Tyrell

3600
02:55:42,840 --> 02:55:45,560
Speaker 1: Crosby or Jamarco Jones, I'm good with either one of them.

3601
02:55:46,080 --> 02:55:47,800
Speaker 1: I think that would be a really, really good pick

3602
02:55:47,840 --> 02:55:51,640
Speaker 1: for the New York Football Giants if Crosby gets picked here, man,

3603
02:55:51,800 --> 02:55:55,160
Speaker 1: I am definitely no. I'm just going to the Delhi

3604
02:55:55,200 --> 02:55:56,960
Speaker 1: to get my lottery ticket tonight. On the way home,

3605
02:55:57,240 --> 02:56:01,840
Speaker 1: I'm telling your luck could have happened to all right.

3606
02:56:03,080 --> 02:56:07,440
Speaker 1: J Hill, defensive tackle, North Carolina, Folks, I'm totally off

3607
02:56:07,480 --> 02:56:09,600
Speaker 1: the board on that one. I I really didn't see

3608
02:56:09,640 --> 02:56:11,959
Speaker 1: it coming. You can't get him, all right, Paul. But

3609
02:56:12,040 --> 02:56:14,400
Speaker 1: you know what, and you know here's what we made

3610
02:56:14,440 --> 02:56:17,160
Speaker 1: the mistake, Paul, what position more than any other? As

3611
02:56:17,240 --> 02:56:21,720
Speaker 1: Dave Gentleman drafted as general manager at the Carolina Panthers,

3612
02:56:22,160 --> 02:56:27,240
Speaker 1: defensive did defensive lineman and specifically defensive tackles. He drafted

3613
02:56:27,280 --> 02:56:30,120
Speaker 1: star Low to Lale and Cowan Short with back to

3614
02:56:30,200 --> 02:56:33,560
Speaker 1: back picks one year. So B J. Hill. Here's what

3615
02:56:33,640 --> 02:56:36,720
Speaker 1: Dame Brewer has about him in the draft guide. UM. Overall,

3616
02:56:37,040 --> 02:56:39,200
Speaker 1: Hill was the athletic bounce and upper body strength to

3617
02:56:39,240 --> 02:56:43,800
Speaker 1: control multiple blockers, projecting as a scheme versatile NFL nose tackle.

3618
02:56:44,200 --> 02:56:47,480
Speaker 1: Uh six ft three, three eleven pounds. UM. He bench

3619
02:56:47,560 --> 02:56:51,600
Speaker 1: pressed at the combine thirty five reps. He's a very

3620
02:56:51,640 --> 02:56:54,720
Speaker 1: strong guy. Um. And he's a guy that's going to

3621
02:56:54,760 --> 02:56:58,000
Speaker 1: be a run stuffer in the Giants three four defense.

3622
02:56:58,160 --> 02:57:00,480
Speaker 1: I had him, believe it or not, as a four

3623
02:57:00,600 --> 02:57:04,120
Speaker 1: three defensive tackle or a three four defensive end. That's

3624
02:57:04,120 --> 02:57:06,080
Speaker 1: how I project and I think that's where he's gonna fit.

3625
02:57:06,120 --> 02:57:08,280
Speaker 1: And we talked about I mentioned that with the hand

3626
02:57:08,360 --> 02:57:10,800
Speaker 1: kid from Alabama. I think he fits that role as

3627
02:57:10,800 --> 02:57:13,400
Speaker 1: at three four d M. Yeah, Um, I'm with you.

3628
02:57:13,560 --> 02:57:16,199
Speaker 1: What I liked looked like you were smart and assertive,

3629
02:57:16,400 --> 02:57:19,440
Speaker 1: very athletic for his size and gets off on the

3630
02:57:19,480 --> 02:57:22,840
Speaker 1: snap very quickly, which is really a good thing, especially

3631
02:57:22,840 --> 02:57:25,480
Speaker 1: for an interior alignment. Uh. And and he will be

3632
02:57:25,520 --> 02:57:27,400
Speaker 1: playing some of that and and what the Giants are

3633
02:57:27,400 --> 02:57:29,879
Speaker 1: gonna schemer at. What I did say is he had

3634
02:57:29,920 --> 02:57:32,440
Speaker 1: to add some more moves to his repertoire. Needed to

3635
02:57:32,520 --> 02:57:36,560
Speaker 1: expand his moves, and I I wanted to see him

3636
02:57:36,600 --> 02:57:39,520
Speaker 1: get a little stronger as well. Only three sacks as

3637
02:57:39,520 --> 02:57:42,520
Speaker 1: a senior, but again that's not the position and the

3638
02:57:42,560 --> 02:57:45,039
Speaker 1: type of player that you're looking for a big sack

3639
02:57:45,440 --> 02:57:47,760
Speaker 1: from either. So correct, he's gonna stop the run. He's

3640
02:57:47,760 --> 02:57:50,039
Speaker 1: gonna be a solid guy inside. I'm surprised they didn't

3641
02:57:50,040 --> 02:57:52,000
Speaker 1: go with an offensive tackle. They must not have thought

3642
02:57:52,320 --> 02:57:54,840
Speaker 1: that whoever was on the board, whether it's uh, Martinus

3643
02:57:54,879 --> 02:57:59,680
Speaker 1: Rankin or Tywell Crosby or Jamarco Jones, was worth the

3644
02:57:59,720 --> 02:58:01,320
Speaker 1: pick here in the third round, as Da've got him

3645
02:58:01,320 --> 02:58:02,920
Speaker 1: in the said he's gonna draft the guys that he

3646
02:58:03,000 --> 02:58:07,320
Speaker 1: thinks are the best players, and he believes, um that

3647
02:58:07,400 --> 02:58:09,280
Speaker 1: Hill is the best player on the board here, and

3648
02:58:09,320 --> 02:58:11,920
Speaker 1: it makes sense for the New York Football Giant said, look, uh,

3649
02:58:11,959 --> 02:58:15,040
Speaker 1: they didn't help defensively. Uh, the team did struggle against

3650
02:58:15,040 --> 02:58:17,200
Speaker 1: the run last year. He can't hide that fact. They

3651
02:58:17,280 --> 02:58:20,039
Speaker 1: certainly did, and Hell will certainly help them try to

3652
02:58:20,240 --> 02:58:23,760
Speaker 1: rectify that situation. Now we know the Giants have Snacks Harrison,

3653
02:58:24,320 --> 02:58:26,600
Speaker 1: and we know they have Dalvelin Tomlinson, and we know

3654
02:58:26,720 --> 02:58:29,720
Speaker 1: they have Robert Thomas, and then of course you know

3655
02:58:29,800 --> 02:58:32,000
Speaker 1: there are other bodies that they will have a training camp,

3656
02:58:32,040 --> 02:58:35,000
Speaker 1: guys trying to win another job. But uh, you know,

3657
02:58:35,120 --> 02:58:38,320
Speaker 1: it looks to me like at least their top three

3658
02:58:39,200 --> 02:58:43,640
Speaker 1: defensive tackle spots are probably you know, pretty secure. So

3659
02:58:43,920 --> 02:58:45,959
Speaker 1: if you draft a guy like this in the third round,

3660
02:58:46,000 --> 02:58:48,080
Speaker 1: you figure he's gonna make the team. So that would

3661
02:58:48,080 --> 02:58:51,640
Speaker 1: be the four spots unless somebody surprises somebody and and

3662
02:58:51,720 --> 02:58:54,400
Speaker 1: steals a spot. Maybe the problem is that the way

3663
02:58:54,440 --> 02:58:58,199
Speaker 1: Betcher uses guys. I I almost hate the pigeonhole people

3664
02:58:58,200 --> 02:59:01,800
Speaker 1: into spots. Us has been so many different places, and

3665
02:59:01,480 --> 02:59:04,119
Speaker 1: that's a good point. Figure it out. That's a good point.

3666
02:59:04,520 --> 02:59:06,360
Speaker 1: But but you know, if you're gonna consider more of

3667
02:59:06,360 --> 02:59:09,320
Speaker 1: a d ND while on the other side, opposite h Vernon,

3668
02:59:09,959 --> 02:59:12,200
Speaker 1: you know that d N spots gonna be probably your

3669
02:59:12,320 --> 02:59:15,520
Speaker 1: Kuara or carry Win. I mean, oh, maybe they think

3670
02:59:15,600 --> 02:59:17,680
Speaker 1: he's got a little bit more stuff in the rear

3671
02:59:17,800 --> 02:59:19,200
Speaker 1: end to stop to run a little bit better than

3672
02:59:19,240 --> 02:59:22,000
Speaker 1: those guests. That could be. That could be. Now he's

3673
02:59:22,040 --> 02:59:23,880
Speaker 1: a he's a probably a first and second down player,

3674
02:59:24,000 --> 02:59:26,800
Speaker 1: and there's uh Josh Morrow there too. Yeah, I would

3675
02:59:26,800 --> 02:59:28,840
Speaker 1: imagine he's probably a first and second down player more

3676
02:59:28,879 --> 02:59:31,039
Speaker 1: than he's a third down game. Yeah, I would agree that. Yeah,

3677
02:59:31,080 --> 02:59:35,640
Speaker 1: I would agree with that. M they have b. J. Hill.

3678
02:59:35,720 --> 02:59:37,000
Speaker 1: If you guys want to get on the line and

3679
02:59:37,160 --> 02:59:39,959
Speaker 1: react to that pick, you can at two, four five

3680
02:59:40,040 --> 02:59:43,200
Speaker 1: on three. Uh, well, we'll try to get one or

3681
02:59:43,320 --> 02:59:45,879
Speaker 1: both of the players on if we can. We'll give

3682
02:59:45,959 --> 02:59:49,000
Speaker 1: that a the old college try. In fact, they're trying

3683
02:59:49,000 --> 02:59:51,240
Speaker 1: to get Lorenzo for us right now. If we do,

3684
02:59:51,360 --> 02:59:53,640
Speaker 1: then we'll probably say goodbyes shortly thereafter. We'll see how

3685
02:59:53,720 --> 02:59:55,920
Speaker 1: that goes. Um. Oh, in fact, we're gonna having a

3686
02:59:55,959 --> 02:59:58,000
Speaker 1: line in a second. Excellent, Good well, Lorenzo Carter in

3687
02:59:58,040 --> 03:00:01,080
Speaker 1: a moment here, Um on the line here talk about

3688
03:00:01,280 --> 03:00:02,960
Speaker 1: one of the newest members of the Giants. Again, the

3689
03:00:03,000 --> 03:00:06,720
Speaker 1: Giants like Lorenzo Carter, versatile linebacker out of Georgia at

3690
03:00:06,760 --> 03:00:09,959
Speaker 1: sixty six, and then at sixty nine they sele b J. Hill,

3691
03:00:10,040 --> 03:00:14,000
Speaker 1: defensive tackle out of NC State. And we're gonna have

3692
03:00:14,120 --> 03:00:18,000
Speaker 1: a Lorenzo on the line in just a moment. So

3693
03:00:18,200 --> 03:00:20,680
Speaker 1: paul Um things a Carter to talk about. I think

3694
03:00:20,680 --> 03:00:22,480
Speaker 1: it's I think we have to ask him about where

3695
03:00:22,520 --> 03:00:25,120
Speaker 1: he feels most comfortable, what role and how he plays,

3696
03:00:25,600 --> 03:00:27,280
Speaker 1: and you know how he thinks he can grow at

3697
03:00:27,280 --> 03:00:28,800
Speaker 1: the NFL level. I think those are the main things

3698
03:00:28,840 --> 03:00:30,920
Speaker 1: we gotta cover with him. Well, let's face it, one

3699
03:00:31,000 --> 03:00:33,640
Speaker 1: thing for sure, coming out of a program like Georgia,

3700
03:00:33,959 --> 03:00:35,960
Speaker 1: he's not gonna be afraid of the bright lights that

3701
03:00:36,320 --> 03:00:39,120
Speaker 1: we know, and we also know because he's played with

3702
03:00:39,240 --> 03:00:42,280
Speaker 1: so many other terrific players over his college career. Uh,

3703
03:00:42,320 --> 03:00:44,800
Speaker 1: He's certainly is going to understand the responsibility that he

3704
03:00:44,879 --> 03:00:47,120
Speaker 1: has coming into the pro level. Because when you play

3705
03:00:47,160 --> 03:00:49,959
Speaker 1: on a team that that's it's that good, you pick

3706
03:00:50,040 --> 03:00:51,600
Speaker 1: up your game because you don't want to be the

3707
03:00:51,640 --> 03:00:53,720
Speaker 1: week link on a team like that, you know, so

3708
03:00:53,879 --> 03:00:55,760
Speaker 1: you have to have pride, you have to be a

3709
03:00:55,800 --> 03:00:58,240
Speaker 1: self motivator because you gotta fit in with the rest

3710
03:00:58,280 --> 03:01:01,000
Speaker 1: of what is a very good squad, no question about it.

3711
03:01:01,080 --> 03:01:02,600
Speaker 1: And Well, Lorenzo on the line with us here on

3712
03:01:02,680 --> 03:01:05,480
Speaker 1: Big Blue Kickoff Live. UH. In just a moment, we're

3713
03:01:05,520 --> 03:01:10,439
Speaker 1: joined by Lorenzo Carter, now the Giants third round pick. Lorenzo. Congratulations,

3714
03:01:10,520 --> 03:01:12,680
Speaker 1: Welcome to the Giants. My name is John Schmilcolm with

3715
03:01:12,720 --> 03:01:15,440
Speaker 1: Paul Detino. We're in the Giants facility in East Weatherford,

3716
03:01:15,480 --> 03:01:18,960
Speaker 1: New Jersey. Congratulations must have been a hell of a night. Huh,

3717
03:01:20,040 --> 03:01:22,640
Speaker 1: hell of a night, man, Thank you, thank you man.

3718
03:01:22,800 --> 03:01:27,520
Speaker 1: I'm just excited, Lorenzo. We we have seen so many

3719
03:01:27,600 --> 03:01:30,600
Speaker 1: projections about you as a week side linebacker, a strong

3720
03:01:30,680 --> 03:01:35,039
Speaker 1: sign linebacker. Your physical tools allow you to be incredibly versatile,

3721
03:01:35,440 --> 03:01:40,080
Speaker 1: which will fit James Betcher's defensive scheme here extremely well.

3722
03:01:40,720 --> 03:01:44,119
Speaker 1: How do you see yourself stepping in to this defense

3723
03:01:44,240 --> 03:01:47,560
Speaker 1: at the pro level again with so many different skills

3724
03:01:47,600 --> 03:01:51,480
Speaker 1: in your Russian? Yeah? Um, first, I just want to

3725
03:01:51,520 --> 03:02:00,400
Speaker 1: get up there. I'm I've been waiting, Um, get up there.

3726
03:02:00,680 --> 03:02:02,960
Speaker 1: Just do it in a coach his ask. I mean,

3727
03:02:03,040 --> 03:02:04,720
Speaker 1: like you said, I'm versus. I can do a lot.

3728
03:02:05,040 --> 03:02:07,400
Speaker 1: But what's because he asked me to do something and

3729
03:02:08,000 --> 03:02:10,440
Speaker 1: lock me in there, and I'm sure the sky's the limit.

3730
03:02:11,120 --> 03:02:14,240
Speaker 1: Is there a role that you're more comfortable in right

3731
03:02:14,320 --> 03:02:18,720
Speaker 1: now coming out of Georgia than others? Yeah? I mean

3732
03:02:19,160 --> 03:02:22,720
Speaker 1: this naturally. I'm a pass rusher, Uh, get to the quarterback.

3733
03:02:22,840 --> 03:02:25,640
Speaker 1: Just I've been working on that a lot and I'm

3734
03:02:25,760 --> 03:02:28,480
Speaker 1: looking forward to getting to show that. But in my

3735
03:02:29,120 --> 03:02:32,119
Speaker 1: being a pass rush I'm probably the most comfortable, uh,

3736
03:02:32,600 --> 03:02:35,800
Speaker 1: guy that can pass for us, that can also drop

3737
03:02:35,959 --> 03:02:38,560
Speaker 1: into space and just do a lot of different things

3738
03:02:38,760 --> 03:02:42,920
Speaker 1: like my valuable, very valuable. You know you're chiming Landing

3739
03:02:43,000 --> 03:02:46,720
Speaker 1: to the Giants is very fortuitous because a fellow Georgia linebacker,

3740
03:02:46,800 --> 03:02:50,440
Speaker 1: alec Ogletree from the Rams, was just treated here recently

3741
03:02:50,560 --> 03:02:53,000
Speaker 1: during the off season. How well do you know him,

3742
03:02:53,040 --> 03:02:55,240
Speaker 1: because I know he's very proud of his Bulldogs and

3743
03:02:55,320 --> 03:03:00,880
Speaker 1: follows that club very closely. Oh yeah, I'm looking forward

3744
03:03:00,920 --> 03:03:04,440
Speaker 1: to over gonna be there a like you mean that

3745
03:03:04,520 --> 03:03:06,520
Speaker 1: have a big brother, that's a big bro to me. Um,

3746
03:03:07,480 --> 03:03:09,640
Speaker 1: just growing up watching him at Georgia, even in the

3747
03:03:09,640 --> 03:03:12,720
Speaker 1: recruit prices, just seeing seeing the stuff he did. So

3748
03:03:12,800 --> 03:03:14,720
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to getting up there and getting the

3749
03:03:15,200 --> 03:03:18,320
Speaker 1: tedded U and be with another dog, that's for sure.

3750
03:03:18,720 --> 03:03:21,600
Speaker 1: The guys besides him that you model yourself after as

3751
03:03:21,640 --> 03:03:26,560
Speaker 1: a player, Oh yeah, the Marcus where this off grip

3752
03:03:26,920 --> 03:03:30,680
Speaker 1: just because the type of player he is, the type

3753
03:03:30,720 --> 03:03:32,800
Speaker 1: player he is now definitely a type player I see

3754
03:03:32,840 --> 03:03:35,760
Speaker 1: myself game and the he wasn't I see myself then

3755
03:03:35,840 --> 03:03:39,160
Speaker 1: in the future. But just as even as he came

3756
03:03:39,160 --> 03:03:43,440
Speaker 1: into the league a little bit underside, not even under side,

3757
03:03:43,560 --> 03:03:46,200
Speaker 1: just not not as big. I see myself developing into

3758
03:03:46,320 --> 03:03:49,920
Speaker 1: something like that. Lorenzo, you absolutely were join Lorenzo Card

3759
03:03:49,920 --> 03:03:52,720
Speaker 1: of the Giants, third round pick, linebacker round at Georgia. Um,

3760
03:03:53,280 --> 03:03:55,480
Speaker 1: you blew up the combine. You would some of the

3761
03:03:55,800 --> 03:03:58,760
Speaker 1: best numbers at your position. Frankly in the history of

3762
03:03:58,800 --> 03:04:02,000
Speaker 1: the combine going back third years as a linebacker. How

3763
03:04:02,040 --> 03:04:05,800
Speaker 1: do you think you take those athletic traits and translate

3764
03:04:05,879 --> 03:04:08,080
Speaker 1: them onto the field to make you as good as

3765
03:04:08,120 --> 03:04:12,560
Speaker 1: a football player as you are? Yeah, just play, just

3766
03:04:12,680 --> 03:04:15,680
Speaker 1: play with speed. A lot of that same speed a

3767
03:04:15,720 --> 03:04:17,760
Speaker 1: lot of guys can't keep up with, especially in the

3768
03:04:17,840 --> 03:04:23,840
Speaker 1: fourth quarter. Uh, Georgia were paying ourselves on just hanging

3769
03:04:23,920 --> 03:04:26,480
Speaker 1: in there and being the last guy standing. And that

3770
03:04:26,720 --> 03:04:29,120
Speaker 1: just really carried into my blood. It's part of my

3771
03:04:29,240 --> 03:04:35,480
Speaker 1: DNA now. So people, and I'm sure, I'm I'm I'm

3772
03:04:35,520 --> 03:04:40,520
Speaker 1: at the Giants and it is the same thing out there. Lorenzo,

3773
03:04:40,640 --> 03:04:42,279
Speaker 1: I know you want to get back to the party.

3774
03:04:42,440 --> 03:04:44,600
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't want to keep you too much longer.

3775
03:04:44,959 --> 03:04:47,760
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this. The Georgia Bulldogs program has

3776
03:04:47,800 --> 03:04:49,640
Speaker 1: been one of the tops in the n C Double

3777
03:04:49,720 --> 03:04:52,120
Speaker 1: A for a while and they've had so many pro

3778
03:04:52,320 --> 03:04:55,880
Speaker 1: guys succeed at the NFL level. What is it about

3779
03:04:56,000 --> 03:04:59,480
Speaker 1: the program, the coaching staff? What is it about there

3780
03:04:59,640 --> 03:05:01,840
Speaker 1: at ward you that you think has helped prepare you

3781
03:05:02,280 --> 03:05:05,640
Speaker 1: to be an NFL player, maybe even quicker in terms

3782
03:05:05,680 --> 03:05:09,879
Speaker 1: of making an impact than some other guys might. Yeah,

3783
03:05:10,080 --> 03:05:13,720
Speaker 1: just it's a culture. Um, we don't prepare ourselves just

3784
03:05:13,879 --> 03:05:17,160
Speaker 1: for just for college. Man, it's it's beerod than that. Friends,

3785
03:05:18,200 --> 03:05:21,480
Speaker 1: big prepares for life outside of football and as well

3786
03:05:21,520 --> 03:05:24,760
Speaker 1: as pushing us to be even better football players than

3787
03:05:24,760 --> 03:05:31,600
Speaker 1: we y'all have to do so has I mean, Georgia, man,

3788
03:05:32,120 --> 03:05:34,680
Speaker 1: everybody here is the best. And not to mention the

3789
03:05:34,760 --> 03:05:37,119
Speaker 1: fact you guys are on a very pro style scheme

3790
03:05:37,200 --> 03:05:38,600
Speaker 1: there too. That that's got to give you a bit

3791
03:05:38,640 --> 03:05:40,280
Speaker 1: of a leg up here to try to adjust quickly

3792
03:05:40,280 --> 03:05:42,640
Speaker 1: at the NFL level heading into a three four defense right,

3793
03:05:43,560 --> 03:05:47,360
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's not too many defense uh, come on top.

3794
03:05:48,440 --> 03:05:51,520
Speaker 1: So it's that's why I'm looking forward to the playbook.

3795
03:05:51,760 --> 03:05:55,680
Speaker 1: I'm it's gonna be tempered and a Georgia Laurentzo. Final

3796
03:05:55,800 --> 03:05:59,240
Speaker 1: question for me, what was it like in terms of

3797
03:05:59,600 --> 03:06:03,080
Speaker 1: your until mind, setting your emotions as you're watching the

3798
03:06:03,240 --> 03:06:06,160
Speaker 1: second night of the draft, the picture coming off the board.

3799
03:06:06,640 --> 03:06:09,680
Speaker 1: Is there a lot of anticipation? Excitement? Is it angst?

3800
03:06:09,879 --> 03:06:12,680
Speaker 1: Is it nervousness? Is it stress? I don't know if

3801
03:06:12,720 --> 03:06:15,720
Speaker 1: you thought the Giants had you on their radar or not.

3802
03:06:16,160 --> 03:06:18,440
Speaker 1: Could you describe that for me? I'm guessing your home

3803
03:06:18,480 --> 03:06:21,840
Speaker 1: with your family. It must have been a wild time. Yeah,

3804
03:06:22,040 --> 03:06:25,640
Speaker 1: I'm getting I'm home with my family. Man. We had

3805
03:06:25,640 --> 03:06:28,160
Speaker 1: a we had a little fish far today, so getting

3806
03:06:28,160 --> 03:06:30,560
Speaker 1: ready for the draft, just chilling, laying fish fro but

3807
03:06:31,120 --> 03:06:33,560
Speaker 1: watching it. I watched probably the first couple of pigs,

3808
03:06:33,640 --> 03:06:36,320
Speaker 1: but I couldn't sit. There is to raking for me.

3809
03:06:36,440 --> 03:06:40,040
Speaker 1: So I just started playing pinball. I'm playing all night.

3810
03:06:40,440 --> 03:06:44,200
Speaker 1: I got the call. I had my pinball peddle and

3811
03:06:44,280 --> 03:06:47,720
Speaker 1: tell my moment. Do you even remember what they said

3812
03:06:47,760 --> 03:06:49,160
Speaker 1: to you on the phone or was it just going

3813
03:06:49,240 --> 03:06:52,560
Speaker 1: so nuts over there that you don't even remember. No.

3814
03:06:52,760 --> 03:06:57,960
Speaker 1: I remember seeing the UH number and I was like, wow,

3815
03:06:58,879 --> 03:07:08,080
Speaker 1: I got the call. Fondly, that's alright, so enjoy the

3816
03:07:08,160 --> 03:07:12,640
Speaker 1: rest of your night. Congratulations. Fans are gonna be really

3817
03:07:12,720 --> 03:07:14,960
Speaker 1: buzzing up here to get you on on the field

3818
03:07:15,000 --> 03:07:17,000
Speaker 1: in a giant uniform all the best to you and

3819
03:07:17,040 --> 03:07:20,920
Speaker 1: we'll see you soon. Yes, thank you, Lorenzo. The Giants

3820
03:07:21,000 --> 03:07:22,880
Speaker 1: love pass rushers and they're gonna love to have you here.

3821
03:07:23,000 --> 03:07:24,440
Speaker 1: You'd like to rush the pass a You're gonna fit

3822
03:07:24,560 --> 03:07:27,000
Speaker 1: right in De Marcus ware. That's not a bad comparison,

3823
03:07:27,680 --> 03:07:30,720
Speaker 1: you know. I tell you again, we're talking to a

3824
03:07:30,800 --> 03:07:34,760
Speaker 1: guy who, much like the other picks that we've experienced

3825
03:07:34,800 --> 03:07:37,720
Speaker 1: in the first and second rounds, really appears to have

3826
03:07:37,840 --> 03:07:41,560
Speaker 1: his head screwed on straight. A guy who understands team concept,

3827
03:07:41,840 --> 03:07:45,480
Speaker 1: a guy who is football savvy, a guy who seems

3828
03:07:45,520 --> 03:07:49,080
Speaker 1: to be just on conversation seems to get it. Oh yeah,

3829
03:07:49,240 --> 03:07:51,360
Speaker 1: and you know what, it's funny and and I don't

3830
03:07:51,360 --> 03:07:53,160
Speaker 1: know how I why I'm picturing it this way, but

3831
03:07:53,240 --> 03:07:55,320
Speaker 1: I am. Did it sound like he was just answering

3832
03:07:55,360 --> 03:07:59,160
Speaker 1: every question like the biggest smile on his face the

3833
03:07:59,440 --> 03:08:00,760
Speaker 1: hill I can tell of that, But that was my

3834
03:08:00,920 --> 03:08:04,720
Speaker 1: sense that it was just like, wow, this is awesome

3835
03:08:04,800 --> 03:08:09,840
Speaker 1: bad he was having an incredible evening tonight. I don't

3836
03:08:10,000 --> 03:08:11,560
Speaker 1: blame him. I mean, this is one of the best

3837
03:08:11,680 --> 03:08:14,640
Speaker 1: nights of this young man's life, and life without question,

3838
03:08:14,800 --> 03:08:17,800
Speaker 1: and it only gets better when you succeed in the

3839
03:08:17,920 --> 03:08:20,480
Speaker 1: National Football League. All Right, we got a couple of calls.

3840
03:08:21,320 --> 03:08:24,040
Speaker 1: If we have a chance to get b J. Hill

3841
03:08:24,200 --> 03:08:25,720
Speaker 1: before we get off, we will do our best to

3842
03:08:25,840 --> 03:08:29,000
Speaker 1: do it. But in the meantime, let's get these two calls.

3843
03:08:29,040 --> 03:08:32,960
Speaker 1: And William in Memphis is first. William, Welcome to Big

3844
03:08:33,000 --> 03:08:36,240
Speaker 1: Blue Kick Golf Live. How are you good evening, and gentlemen,

3845
03:08:36,240 --> 03:08:38,320
Speaker 1: how are you going? How's it going well? How are

3846
03:08:38,360 --> 03:08:41,560
Speaker 1: you good? Just want to say, first off, I follow

3847
03:08:41,560 --> 03:08:43,200
Speaker 1: you both a gentim on on Twitter, and you both

3848
03:08:43,200 --> 03:08:45,080
Speaker 1: are amazing with with your information. Thanks a lot. I

3849
03:08:45,160 --> 03:08:47,240
Speaker 1: appreciate you following. Thank you very much. Happy to know

3850
03:08:47,280 --> 03:08:52,280
Speaker 1: at least one of you guys aren't bots. I just

3851
03:08:52,400 --> 03:08:55,520
Speaker 1: had a question. I'm not necessarily shocked, but kind of puzzled.

3852
03:08:55,680 --> 03:08:58,680
Speaker 1: Was there any bad information on Tyrrell Crosby. I'm wondering

3853
03:08:58,720 --> 03:09:01,200
Speaker 1: why we want b J Hall over him when getting

3854
03:09:01,280 --> 03:09:03,160
Speaker 1: had a chance to get a starting right tackle out

3855
03:09:03,160 --> 03:09:05,480
Speaker 1: of Crows, but he didn't give up a one quarterback

3856
03:09:05,560 --> 03:09:08,000
Speaker 1: kit or a fact the whole year last year. You know,

3857
03:09:08,080 --> 03:09:10,320
Speaker 1: it's a good question. I think part of that is

3858
03:09:10,440 --> 03:09:13,920
Speaker 1: scheme translation. As I mentioned Oregon. You know, they play

3859
03:09:13,959 --> 03:09:15,520
Speaker 1: a scheme where they don't have their hand in the

3860
03:09:15,600 --> 03:09:18,440
Speaker 1: dirt really, So I think that's probably something for a

3861
03:09:18,480 --> 03:09:21,480
Speaker 1: guy like Dave Geedlman really like super physical players. And again,

3862
03:09:21,560 --> 03:09:24,400
Speaker 1: like we mentioned, he's not the most physical guy. But

3863
03:09:24,520 --> 03:09:27,280
Speaker 1: I have not heard of any information medically or off

3864
03:09:27,360 --> 03:09:30,440
Speaker 1: the field that would be a big time red flag

3865
03:09:30,520 --> 03:09:31,960
Speaker 1: for him. I think the Giants just sat b J.

3866
03:09:32,080 --> 03:09:34,920
Speaker 1: Hill was a better player. Yeah, you know, I will

3867
03:09:34,959 --> 03:09:37,680
Speaker 1: tell you this. And again, we do as much research

3868
03:09:37,760 --> 03:09:39,960
Speaker 1: as we can. We'll look at tapes, we'll talk to

3869
03:09:40,120 --> 03:09:43,600
Speaker 1: as we did previewing the draft every every day, in

3870
03:09:43,720 --> 03:09:46,200
Speaker 1: case you're not a regular on bb K, every day.

3871
03:09:46,280 --> 03:09:49,040
Speaker 1: We picked different schools, and we got a hold of

3872
03:09:49,240 --> 03:09:52,920
Speaker 1: media guys, radio guys, newspaper guys in Oregon, right, And yeah,

3873
03:09:52,959 --> 03:09:56,000
Speaker 1: I didn't and and and so we dig in with

3874
03:09:56,200 --> 03:09:59,760
Speaker 1: the guys who know these players better than anybody to

3875
03:10:00,000 --> 03:10:03,440
Speaker 1: try to uncover anything that we can positively and negatively

3876
03:10:03,480 --> 03:10:05,959
Speaker 1: about them. And you know, I'm gonna look back here

3877
03:10:06,000 --> 03:10:08,680
Speaker 1: again at Crosby, and what do I have for Crosby.

3878
03:10:09,720 --> 03:10:11,720
Speaker 1: I'll be darned all I have here There was a

3879
03:10:11,840 --> 03:10:15,200
Speaker 1: minor foot issue. That's it. It was not it was

3880
03:10:15,320 --> 03:10:19,840
Speaker 1: not something significant. I just minor foot. I can't see

3881
03:10:19,959 --> 03:10:22,360
Speaker 1: that that would drop him this far. In any event,

3882
03:10:22,760 --> 03:10:25,680
Speaker 1: he's not he's not. Uh, he's still on the board,

3883
03:10:25,760 --> 03:10:28,320
Speaker 1: hasn't been picked. Maybe if he's there in the fourth round,

3884
03:10:28,400 --> 03:10:32,600
Speaker 1: maybe the Giants take him in. Hey, look, he'd be

3885
03:10:32,720 --> 03:10:35,640
Speaker 1: good value based on his film in the fourth round.

3886
03:10:35,680 --> 03:10:41,080
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any doubt about that than he sure.

3887
03:10:41,120 --> 03:10:43,000
Speaker 1: Thank thanks for calling it good stuff. Appreciate you being

3888
03:10:43,040 --> 03:10:45,520
Speaker 1: part of the program. Uh, let's go to Duke in

3889
03:10:45,680 --> 03:10:48,800
Speaker 1: Queen's He's up next, I Duke, Hey, guys, how's he

3890
03:10:48,879 --> 03:10:52,840
Speaker 1: going doing well? Hey? I wanted to ask, out of

3891
03:10:52,959 --> 03:10:55,120
Speaker 1: all the pigs that we've drafted so far, do you

3892
03:10:55,160 --> 03:10:59,360
Speaker 1: see everyone's starting like from day one of this upcoming season? Um?

3893
03:10:59,520 --> 03:11:02,560
Speaker 1: I think both pawn. I believe that Will Hernandez and

3894
03:11:02,840 --> 03:11:04,960
Speaker 1: I think San Barkley might build the funds way onto

3895
03:11:04,959 --> 03:11:06,720
Speaker 1: the field and on day one. I'm not sure about that,

3896
03:11:06,840 --> 03:11:10,720
Speaker 1: but yet I think those two guys for sure. I

3897
03:11:11,280 --> 03:11:16,160
Speaker 1: thinking Barkley practice squad Carter. Carter has the athleticism to

3898
03:11:16,280 --> 03:11:20,760
Speaker 1: do it. I think trying to find his spot where

3899
03:11:20,840 --> 03:11:24,680
Speaker 1: he's most effective might take some time. I think Carter

3900
03:11:24,879 --> 03:11:27,800
Speaker 1: off the bat will be a sub package guy that

3901
03:11:27,879 --> 03:11:32,480
Speaker 1: will play maybe the snaps to start the year, and

3902
03:11:32,520 --> 03:11:34,560
Speaker 1: they'll be used a lot as a pass rusher, and

3903
03:11:34,640 --> 03:11:36,960
Speaker 1: then they'll try to work him into the defense and

3904
03:11:37,080 --> 03:11:39,040
Speaker 1: expand his game as a running chase guy and a

3905
03:11:39,040 --> 03:11:40,320
Speaker 1: guy that can do a little bit of coverage. What

3906
03:11:40,320 --> 03:11:43,959
Speaker 1: do you think about that, Paul, I think I'm gonna

3907
03:11:44,040 --> 03:11:46,440
Speaker 1: reserve the right to to make a decision on that

3908
03:11:46,680 --> 03:11:50,160
Speaker 1: until I see him here. Give me a guess, he guess,

3909
03:11:50,320 --> 03:11:52,360
Speaker 1: give me a guest. I think I think right now.

3910
03:11:52,920 --> 03:11:57,640
Speaker 1: My guess is he's gonna take the Devon role. Yes,

3911
03:11:57,720 --> 03:12:00,720
Speaker 1: because I think right now Kareem martinon ver In are

3912
03:12:00,800 --> 03:12:04,560
Speaker 1: the two starting outsidelnebackers. That's how and I think Carter,

3913
03:12:04,879 --> 03:12:07,959
Speaker 1: I think on sub package, I think Cree Martin moves

3914
03:12:08,000 --> 03:12:10,440
Speaker 1: inside is the three technique. I think Carter and Vernon

3915
03:12:10,440 --> 03:12:12,520
Speaker 1: put their hands on the dirt and as you would say,

3916
03:12:13,000 --> 03:12:16,040
Speaker 1: foom and rushed the pastor Paul. And that's about as

3917
03:12:16,080 --> 03:12:18,560
Speaker 1: far as I'm gonna go right now, because we certainly

3918
03:12:18,600 --> 03:12:20,720
Speaker 1: need to see him here, see what Betcha wants to

3919
03:12:20,760 --> 03:12:23,640
Speaker 1: do with him. But but I just think I think

3920
03:12:23,760 --> 03:12:26,200
Speaker 1: right now he's Devon Kannard to start off and he

3921
03:12:26,320 --> 03:12:28,840
Speaker 1: will give this team significant snaps. I'm telling you that

3922
03:12:29,000 --> 03:12:32,000
Speaker 1: right now. He is a player. Okay, and I have

3923
03:12:32,040 --> 03:12:35,400
Speaker 1: another question, Um, do you think we can get somebody

3924
03:12:35,440 --> 03:12:38,920
Speaker 1: else for Oline? Or is that the rest of the draft.

3925
03:12:39,680 --> 03:12:42,040
Speaker 1: A couple of names I'll give you. I'll give you

3926
03:12:42,080 --> 03:12:44,600
Speaker 1: a couple of names. Okay, Crosby, we've already talked about.

3927
03:12:44,720 --> 03:12:47,880
Speaker 1: If he drops Jamaco Jones. Okay, you mentioned Jones. You

3928
03:12:48,000 --> 03:12:52,720
Speaker 1: like Jones? Orlando Brown. I don't know about Orlando Brown,

3929
03:12:52,840 --> 03:12:55,480
Speaker 1: but I suppose right I'm just throwing names out there.

3930
03:12:55,640 --> 03:13:00,480
Speaker 1: I'll give you a guy I like. I like Christian

3931
03:13:00,560 --> 03:13:03,560
Speaker 1: from Louisville. He he just went, did he really? He

3932
03:13:03,720 --> 03:13:08,440
Speaker 1: just went? Yeah? The Redskins, No, the re stop making

3933
03:13:08,480 --> 03:13:11,200
Speaker 1: me name names. They keep getting taken off the board

3934
03:13:11,240 --> 03:13:12,960
Speaker 1: every time my name off. You were in a good mood,

3935
03:13:13,000 --> 03:13:16,360
Speaker 1: like twenty minutes ago. What the hell? Cald Down? We

3936
03:13:16,520 --> 03:13:18,240
Speaker 1: but then the day to go with this, Paul, Relax?

3937
03:13:18,959 --> 03:13:21,040
Speaker 1: How about this? Yeah? I want to throw a couple

3938
03:13:21,040 --> 03:13:23,640
Speaker 1: of names. Will Richardson is a guy that I think

3939
03:13:23,680 --> 03:13:26,520
Speaker 1: could be a Day three picket tackle. And you want

3940
03:13:26,520 --> 03:13:28,440
Speaker 1: to really you want to sleep on somebody is the

3941
03:13:28,480 --> 03:13:33,040
Speaker 1: Western Michigan kids. Still there. Uh chakumafor yes, he is

3942
03:13:33,040 --> 03:13:34,720
Speaker 1: still there. He's still on the board. Do you know why?

3943
03:13:34,760 --> 03:13:36,880
Speaker 1: I like to as a And this is not a

3944
03:13:36,920 --> 03:13:38,880
Speaker 1: guy that's gonna start right away. This is a project.

3945
03:13:39,520 --> 03:13:42,960
Speaker 1: Desmond Harrison out of West Georgia. He originally went to

3946
03:13:43,040 --> 03:13:45,240
Speaker 1: North Carolina, had a couple off the field things, he

3947
03:13:45,320 --> 03:13:49,080
Speaker 1: transferred to West Georgia and he is a great athlete.

3948
03:13:49,160 --> 03:13:51,800
Speaker 1: He's six six. He ran a four nine at the

3949
03:13:51,879 --> 03:13:54,600
Speaker 1: combine for an offensive tackle, which is excellent. He's a

3950
03:13:54,640 --> 03:13:56,920
Speaker 1: little light in the behind now, but he's a guy

3951
03:13:57,000 --> 03:13:59,440
Speaker 1: that has some tools. Is maybe a fifth round project

3952
03:13:59,520 --> 03:14:01,360
Speaker 1: at offense attack. I want to go back to a

3953
03:14:01,480 --> 03:14:05,119
Speaker 1: core four first s Western Michigan, three years starter, two

3954
03:14:05,240 --> 03:14:10,200
Speaker 1: years starter at left tackle, six six three. If you

3955
03:14:10,680 --> 03:14:15,200
Speaker 1: if Crosby is gone, a core of four would be

3956
03:14:15,280 --> 03:14:17,080
Speaker 1: a guy if you're really looking to pick up an

3957
03:14:17,120 --> 03:14:20,200
Speaker 1: offensive tackle in the fourth round, that's where I would go.

3958
03:14:20,520 --> 03:14:22,959
Speaker 1: But I would also warn you of this. The Giants

3959
03:14:23,040 --> 03:14:25,360
Speaker 1: could certainly at a corner, and there may be some

3960
03:14:25,520 --> 03:14:29,800
Speaker 1: value with corner in the fourth round too. But besides Crosby,

3961
03:14:30,240 --> 03:14:34,840
Speaker 1: who what what's the one player you guys? She may

3962
03:14:34,879 --> 03:14:38,920
Speaker 1: be possibly starting the Seine out of like every position, Like,

3963
03:14:39,080 --> 03:14:41,800
Speaker 1: what's the one player that might have like the quickest

3964
03:14:41,879 --> 03:14:47,080
Speaker 1: start for the Giants that that's still available. Yes, that's tough.

3965
03:14:47,160 --> 03:14:48,959
Speaker 1: I mean you're talking about the guys that are gonna

3966
03:14:48,959 --> 03:14:50,760
Speaker 1: be available in the fourth round that you want to

3967
03:14:50,800 --> 03:14:53,720
Speaker 1: start right away. That's generally not how the draft works

3968
03:14:54,959 --> 03:14:59,440
Speaker 1: as soon as possible. That's a good question. You know

3969
03:14:59,560 --> 03:15:01,760
Speaker 1: who's a ailable and I don't think he's gonna be

3970
03:15:01,800 --> 03:15:03,440
Speaker 1: available on the Giants pick of the fourth And I'll

3971
03:15:03,440 --> 03:15:06,600
Speaker 1: be Ronnie Harrison. How is he still on the board?

3972
03:15:07,560 --> 03:15:11,560
Speaker 1: How is he on the board? I mean, he's got

3973
03:15:11,600 --> 03:15:16,840
Speaker 1: to be the guy, right, I don't know, no, no, no,

3974
03:15:16,920 --> 03:15:22,160
Speaker 1: no no. I I am the Jinks, So I'm not

3975
03:15:22,200 --> 03:15:24,560
Speaker 1: going to mention his name. You said his name? I did?

3976
03:15:24,680 --> 03:15:33,840
Speaker 1: Lorenzo Carter lasted? Yes he did. Maybe the jinks is broken? Broken? Nice, Okay,

3977
03:15:36,320 --> 03:15:39,000
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I think sorry about that. Let's go to

3978
03:15:39,120 --> 03:15:43,000
Speaker 1: a Walter in Nebraska online one. What's up? Author? It

3979
03:15:43,200 --> 03:15:45,640
Speaker 1: was going on? Fellers man? Uh I just wanted to

3980
03:15:45,680 --> 03:15:47,960
Speaker 1: give a call in and talk about the draft picks.

3981
03:15:48,040 --> 03:15:51,320
Speaker 1: And uh I know, well a poly dots man, you

3982
03:15:51,440 --> 03:15:53,760
Speaker 1: gotta be happy? Is all get out right now? And

3983
03:15:53,879 --> 03:15:56,800
Speaker 1: I in two with you. Man. I just the last

3984
03:15:56,840 --> 03:15:59,280
Speaker 1: couple of years, that oftensive the line has just been

3985
03:15:59,360 --> 03:16:02,600
Speaker 1: a pain in my you know what. And um, I'm

3986
03:16:02,640 --> 03:16:06,200
Speaker 1: happy about the uh Hernandez pick Man. That guy looks

3987
03:16:06,280 --> 03:16:08,120
Speaker 1: like I just wouldn't want to run into him on

3988
03:16:08,160 --> 03:16:09,960
Speaker 1: the alley and if I did, hopefully he was on

3989
03:16:10,120 --> 03:16:15,879
Speaker 1: my side. So um, you know the Barkley pick. Um,

3990
03:16:17,200 --> 03:16:19,360
Speaker 1: I was just it was weird. I was sitting there

3991
03:16:19,400 --> 03:16:23,280
Speaker 1: watching the draft and I'm sitting there thinking like I

3992
03:16:23,440 --> 03:16:26,000
Speaker 1: was hoping for Rosen that we would go to Rosen,

3993
03:16:26,320 --> 03:16:29,520
Speaker 1: and um, I just my mind really wasn't made up.

3994
03:16:29,560 --> 03:16:31,959
Speaker 1: So I just found myself yelling. I didn't even realize

3995
03:16:31,959 --> 03:16:35,000
Speaker 1: the name was read when the pig went off. But

3996
03:16:35,160 --> 03:16:37,959
Speaker 1: I am I'm happy. I'm just looking about the upside

3997
03:16:38,000 --> 03:16:41,640
Speaker 1: of Barkley being on the team, and um that's all

3998
03:16:41,680 --> 03:16:44,440
Speaker 1: I got. And I just, um, you guys, man, I

3999
03:16:44,600 --> 03:16:48,000
Speaker 1: just um. I've watched I've been watching the guy's show

4000
03:16:48,120 --> 03:16:51,560
Speaker 1: for years and thank you this year you guys have

4001
03:16:51,680 --> 03:16:58,160
Speaker 1: been surgically on point on where um or what what positions?

4002
03:16:58,240 --> 03:17:00,960
Speaker 1: Will you know? Where it's just on up like ducks,

4003
03:17:01,160 --> 03:17:03,120
Speaker 1: you know, shooting ducks in a barrel right now on

4004
03:17:03,240 --> 03:17:06,360
Speaker 1: how you guys have lined it up and going offensive line,

4005
03:17:06,360 --> 03:17:08,520
Speaker 1: and it made sense going offensive line at the pick

4006
03:17:08,560 --> 03:17:12,920
Speaker 1: and Barkley, but um, and I am I'm I'm a

4007
03:17:13,000 --> 03:17:16,000
Speaker 1: web fan, so I'm excited about that, but I would

4008
03:17:16,040 --> 03:17:19,480
Speaker 1: have liked to hedge our bets and having another quarterback

4009
03:17:19,560 --> 03:17:22,560
Speaker 1: in there to um, you know, to definitely see. But

4010
03:17:23,080 --> 03:17:25,360
Speaker 1: in any event, man, I'm just looking forward to the

4011
03:17:25,440 --> 03:17:28,160
Speaker 1: season and and I just want to thank you guys,

4012
03:17:28,240 --> 03:17:30,280
Speaker 1: and just like everyone else has been thanking you guys

4013
03:17:30,320 --> 03:17:32,840
Speaker 1: all the hard work that you guys have put in

4014
03:17:32,959 --> 03:17:36,480
Speaker 1: in all the draft prospects and reporters and coaches and

4015
03:17:36,560 --> 03:17:39,520
Speaker 1: people calling in so um, thanks a lot for you guys.

4016
03:17:39,600 --> 03:17:41,840
Speaker 1: And I do watch the show every day and the

4017
03:17:41,920 --> 03:17:44,680
Speaker 1: only time that I really don't watch the show. I

4018
03:17:44,720 --> 03:17:47,080
Speaker 1: didn't watch you too much during the during the season

4019
03:17:47,160 --> 03:17:49,880
Speaker 1: with a crappy season that we had. But other than that,

4020
03:17:50,080 --> 03:17:52,440
Speaker 1: once the all season started, I got up all pumped

4021
03:17:52,480 --> 03:17:56,320
Speaker 1: up about what's gonna happen. Thank you. M Yeah, um,

4022
03:17:56,480 --> 03:17:58,720
Speaker 1: that's all I had just had comments and I'm just

4023
03:17:58,840 --> 03:18:01,280
Speaker 1: excited about the picks him and hopefully we get some more,

4024
03:18:02,120 --> 03:18:08,360
Speaker 1: um good prospects. Thank you. Called back any time, and

4025
03:18:08,400 --> 03:18:10,440
Speaker 1: we appreciate you being such a loyal watcher and listener

4026
03:18:10,440 --> 03:18:13,720
Speaker 1: to the show over the years. And then again, we're

4027
03:18:13,760 --> 03:18:15,440
Speaker 1: gonna try to hang onto we get b J. Hill.

4028
03:18:15,480 --> 03:18:17,240
Speaker 1: Any word on that yet, Natalie, not yet? All right,

4029
03:18:17,240 --> 03:18:19,680
Speaker 1: We're gonna give it a shot. We got one more caller.

4030
03:18:19,720 --> 03:18:21,480
Speaker 1: I want to update the board here because a bunch

4031
03:18:21,480 --> 03:18:24,680
Speaker 1: of guys have gone um since we were talking on

4032
03:18:24,800 --> 03:18:27,680
Speaker 1: the phone with Lorenzo Carter. So let me knock through

4033
03:18:27,720 --> 03:18:31,280
Speaker 1: all these guys, right, okay, UM seven overall, sixth round,

4034
03:18:31,600 --> 03:18:34,920
Speaker 1: sixth overall pick. Rather in the third round, Fred Warner linebacker,

4035
03:18:35,000 --> 03:18:36,920
Speaker 1: b y U. That's one of my guys that I liked,

4036
03:18:37,080 --> 03:18:41,600
Speaker 1: good coverage linebacker. Um seventh pick in the third round,

4037
03:18:41,680 --> 03:18:45,280
Speaker 1: seventy one overall to the Broncos. Royce Freeman, running back

4038
03:18:45,360 --> 03:18:47,920
Speaker 1: out of Oregon. I thought a little little little early

4039
03:18:48,080 --> 03:18:53,920
Speaker 1: for him, but good powerful back questioned, no question. Um.

4040
03:18:53,959 --> 03:18:55,560
Speaker 1: I thought he was an early Day three, but I

4041
03:18:55,640 --> 03:18:57,400
Speaker 1: think here it's fine. I think he's probably the next

4042
03:18:57,400 --> 03:18:59,000
Speaker 1: best running back out there, at least close to it,

4043
03:18:59,080 --> 03:19:01,440
Speaker 1: depending on the style of back that you want. A

4044
03:19:01,520 --> 03:19:03,960
Speaker 1: New York Jets pick a guy that I like, Nathan Shepherd,

4045
03:19:04,040 --> 03:19:07,840
Speaker 1: defensive tackle out of Fort Hayes State. Paul, there was

4046
03:19:07,959 --> 03:19:12,760
Speaker 1: one person at the Senior Bowl that beat Will Hernandez

4047
03:19:12,959 --> 03:19:16,960
Speaker 1: more than once. It was Nathan Shepherd at He was

4048
03:19:17,120 --> 03:19:19,400
Speaker 1: very good and then he heard himself. He actually I

4049
03:19:19,480 --> 03:19:22,280
Speaker 1: think the third day of practice or wasn't at the game.

4050
03:19:22,320 --> 03:19:23,879
Speaker 1: He might have broke his foot at the Senior Bowl

4051
03:19:24,320 --> 03:19:26,080
Speaker 1: and he couldn't could have finished off the week, but

4052
03:19:26,200 --> 03:19:30,560
Speaker 1: he was good. Has probably stepped on him. Uh, Miami,

4053
03:19:30,640 --> 03:19:34,040
Speaker 1: it's seventy three. Picked Jerome Baker, linebacker out of Ohio State,

4054
03:19:34,080 --> 03:19:37,440
Speaker 1: and you've talked about him. Um. The Redskins then selected

4055
03:19:37,440 --> 03:19:40,760
Speaker 1: Paul's guy, Jaren Christian offensive tackle out Louisville, which I

4056
03:19:40,760 --> 03:19:43,400
Speaker 1: think is a pretty good value. Picking around three Chiefs

4057
03:19:43,440 --> 03:19:46,879
Speaker 1: McK Derek Noddy of b J. Hill style defensive tackle

4058
03:19:46,959 --> 03:19:49,280
Speaker 1: that's gonna stop the run out of Florida State. And

4059
03:19:49,360 --> 03:19:52,760
Speaker 1: then the Steelers and Jodah Toles predicted this in around two.

4060
03:19:52,879 --> 03:19:56,280
Speaker 1: It didn't happen, but happen around three. Mason Rudolph to

4061
03:19:56,360 --> 03:20:01,720
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers, perhaps trying to find the air apparent too.

4062
03:20:02,959 --> 03:20:07,199
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger and the Bengals pick is in at seventy

4063
03:20:07,720 --> 03:20:10,680
Speaker 1: overall pick and round number three. All Right, Natalie, I'm

4064
03:20:10,680 --> 03:20:12,240
Speaker 1: putting a time clock on this. We don't take these

4065
03:20:12,240 --> 03:20:14,440
Speaker 1: two calls. We don't have b J. Yeah, we're gonna

4066
03:20:14,440 --> 03:20:16,600
Speaker 1: say goodbye. Okay, hold me to that if I don't

4067
03:20:16,640 --> 03:20:19,160
Speaker 1: throw the water at me. Okay, let's put to Rodrigo

4068
03:20:19,360 --> 03:20:24,680
Speaker 1: in Texas. He's on next. Hi, Rodrigo, Hey you guys.

4069
03:20:26,600 --> 03:20:28,600
Speaker 1: I was wondering what the draft with the good draft

4070
03:20:28,640 --> 03:20:32,000
Speaker 1: picks that we've been picking up so far in a

4071
03:20:32,120 --> 03:20:35,200
Speaker 1: position to uh perhaps pick up das Ran and so

4072
03:20:35,440 --> 03:20:38,520
Speaker 1: will we even have the capital go ahead, Paul, I've

4073
03:20:38,520 --> 03:20:40,240
Speaker 1: had my spiel on this too many times. I can't

4074
03:20:40,280 --> 03:20:42,560
Speaker 1: do anything. I'm gonna make it real simple. There are

4075
03:20:42,800 --> 03:20:47,560
Speaker 1: several hurdles you'd have to clear before that's realistic. Hurdles. Yes,

4076
03:20:47,800 --> 03:20:50,920
Speaker 1: one would be the medical, the other would be the economic.

4077
03:20:51,280 --> 03:20:53,960
Speaker 1: The other would be the locker room chatter and and

4078
03:20:54,040 --> 03:20:57,760
Speaker 1: the reputation that he would bring into any new locker room. Uh.

4079
03:20:57,920 --> 03:21:00,200
Speaker 1: Those things have to be cleared before you can even

4080
03:21:00,280 --> 03:21:04,440
Speaker 1: realistically assess the chances that he would be uh coming

4081
03:21:04,520 --> 03:21:07,400
Speaker 1: into this uh into this situation. So I'm gonna say

4082
03:21:07,520 --> 03:21:10,680
Speaker 1: right now, with three high hurdles to clear. Uh, it

4083
03:21:10,840 --> 03:21:13,520
Speaker 1: is highly unlikely. It's not to say that you can

4084
03:21:13,600 --> 03:21:16,600
Speaker 1: never say never, but that's that's a lot of doing

4085
03:21:16,720 --> 03:21:22,240
Speaker 1: right there. I appreciate the call. I will say this,

4086
03:21:22,800 --> 03:21:24,840
Speaker 1: I do expect the Giants to to bring in a

4087
03:21:24,920 --> 03:21:27,960
Speaker 1: six three or six ft four wide receiver at some

4088
03:21:28,200 --> 03:21:30,720
Speaker 1: point over the course of the next couple of weeks,

4089
03:21:30,760 --> 03:21:34,680
Speaker 1: if not in this draft on undrafted rookie free agents.

4090
03:21:34,680 --> 03:21:36,200
Speaker 1: You know who one guy we should have mentioned in

4091
03:21:36,240 --> 03:21:38,840
Speaker 1: the third round that we didn't that wouldn ame me

4092
03:21:38,879 --> 03:21:41,160
Speaker 1: is st. Brown. We did mention him earlier. Yeah, but

4093
03:21:41,200 --> 03:21:42,840
Speaker 1: not for the Giants. Not not as a guy we

4094
03:21:42,879 --> 03:21:45,120
Speaker 1: thought the Giants would pick and and because I didn't

4095
03:21:45,160 --> 03:21:48,360
Speaker 1: think that with the value in the need, the other

4096
03:21:48,440 --> 03:21:50,800
Speaker 1: positions had better value and need. For me, I think

4097
03:21:50,879 --> 03:21:52,720
Speaker 1: better need. But I think this is around the time

4098
03:21:52,760 --> 03:21:54,680
Speaker 1: where I think St. Brown is gonna go. I I

4099
03:21:54,959 --> 03:21:58,240
Speaker 1: definitely think that this would be around the ballpark, but

4100
03:21:58,879 --> 03:22:01,440
Speaker 1: that the need didn't match the value as well as

4101
03:22:01,480 --> 03:22:03,600
Speaker 1: the other guys did. By the way, a couple of

4102
03:22:03,720 --> 03:22:06,440
Speaker 1: nice picks for the Bengals here, all right, They back

4103
03:22:06,520 --> 03:22:08,600
Speaker 1: to back picks. I'm not sure which one of the

4104
03:22:08,680 --> 03:22:11,120
Speaker 1: eighteen thousand trains that have happened over the past two

4105
03:22:11,200 --> 03:22:13,280
Speaker 1: days got him this pick, but they do have it

4106
03:22:13,760 --> 03:22:17,360
Speaker 1: via Kansas City from Washington. First. It's seventies seven overall.

4107
03:22:17,440 --> 03:22:19,920
Speaker 1: This was their own pick. They took Sam Hubbard, defensive

4108
03:22:20,000 --> 03:22:23,240
Speaker 1: end out of Ohio State. That nice, nice pick for them,

4109
03:22:25,200 --> 03:22:27,760
Speaker 1: and then they just selected and they had on the board.

4110
03:22:27,760 --> 03:22:29,160
Speaker 1: They took it down and now I have to look

4111
03:22:29,200 --> 03:22:32,440
Speaker 1: it up. Belie Jefferson, the linebacker round of Texas, who

4112
03:22:32,640 --> 03:22:36,640
Speaker 1: a very raw player. UM similar to Lorenzo Carter in

4113
03:22:36,760 --> 03:22:40,160
Speaker 1: that he's a very good athlete but really hasn't found

4114
03:22:40,320 --> 03:22:43,160
Speaker 1: his way yet and where he's gonna wind up. But

4115
03:22:43,440 --> 03:22:45,000
Speaker 1: he's out of Texas, and he was one of those

4116
03:22:45,040 --> 03:22:46,800
Speaker 1: five star recruits out of Texas, one of those big

4117
03:22:46,840 --> 03:22:49,400
Speaker 1: time Texas football players, but he never really kind of

4118
03:22:49,440 --> 03:22:52,199
Speaker 1: figured it out at the pro level. Of the Seahawks

4119
03:22:52,280 --> 03:22:56,000
Speaker 1: on the board, this is from their trade with the Cardinals, UM,

4120
03:22:56,640 --> 03:22:58,920
Speaker 1: when they tried to acquire extra picks when they moved back.

4121
03:22:59,280 --> 03:23:01,600
Speaker 1: I believe in the first round. So we'll see what

4122
03:23:01,680 --> 03:23:04,920
Speaker 1: the Seahawks pick here with the seventy ninth overall pick,

4123
03:23:04,959 --> 03:23:07,199
Speaker 1: fifteen pick and round number three, and they pick another

4124
03:23:07,240 --> 03:23:09,160
Speaker 1: pass rusher pass rusher is a little bit of a

4125
03:23:09,200 --> 03:23:15,440
Speaker 1: runnere Polly dots green defensive end out of the USC,

4126
03:23:15,680 --> 03:23:17,520
Speaker 1: and you know what we're seeing in your Paul. We're

4127
03:23:17,560 --> 03:23:20,200
Speaker 1: seeing all the traits guys Maine reads another guy. He's

4128
03:23:20,240 --> 03:23:22,720
Speaker 1: an athlete that does a lot of things. When I

4129
03:23:22,760 --> 03:23:24,400
Speaker 1: remember we did that, you weren't on the air with

4130
03:23:24,440 --> 03:23:26,240
Speaker 1: me and Lance. We did the USC guy and he said,

4131
03:23:26,520 --> 03:23:28,360
Speaker 1: if he stays in school another year, he could be

4132
03:23:28,400 --> 03:23:31,360
Speaker 1: a first round pick, if he cleans up his technique

4133
03:23:31,360 --> 03:23:34,080
Speaker 1: and becomes a better football player. Came out early, good athlete.

4134
03:23:34,080 --> 03:23:35,760
Speaker 1: They think they could turn him into something in Seattle.

4135
03:23:35,800 --> 03:23:39,199
Speaker 1: Also came off an a c L injury he played

4136
03:23:39,200 --> 03:23:41,160
Speaker 1: this year, though that was the prior season. I understand,

4137
03:23:41,240 --> 03:23:43,520
Speaker 1: of course, that's It's one thing that's already in the

4138
03:23:43,600 --> 03:23:45,600
Speaker 1: books on him, which is why I again, I think

4139
03:23:45,640 --> 03:23:47,320
Speaker 1: he would have been better off staying in school one

4140
03:23:47,360 --> 03:23:50,360
Speaker 1: more year. Um, all right, we'll take one more call

4141
03:23:50,440 --> 03:23:52,040
Speaker 1: here and we'll see if he can get b J.

4142
03:23:52,120 --> 03:23:53,720
Speaker 1: If we can't, nobody, we'll try to g him on

4143
03:23:53,760 --> 03:23:55,840
Speaker 1: tomorrow show. That'd be great. Okay, let's go to Josh

4144
03:23:55,879 --> 03:23:58,720
Speaker 1: and San Diego. He's our final caller. The program, Josh,

4145
03:23:58,760 --> 03:24:01,560
Speaker 1: what's going on? Hey, fellas, how are you doing today?

4146
03:24:01,560 --> 03:24:05,040
Speaker 1: What's up? Josh? Uh? Well, I just wanted to say,

4147
03:24:05,480 --> 03:24:07,720
Speaker 1: like everyone else that you know, you guys have done

4148
03:24:07,720 --> 03:24:10,400
Speaker 1: an amazing job of this offseason and it doesn't really

4149
03:24:10,440 --> 03:24:12,520
Speaker 1: seem like you guys just nailed it as far as

4150
03:24:12,600 --> 03:24:15,119
Speaker 1: you're the guests that you brought on and they keep

4151
03:24:15,160 --> 03:24:17,160
Speaker 1: their picks that you guys made, as far as you know,

4152
03:24:17,440 --> 03:24:21,720
Speaker 1: calling the will Ernandez pick long ago, Holli dash, that

4153
03:24:21,879 --> 03:24:23,800
Speaker 1: was pretty awesome. Well, you know, Josh, let me tell

4154
03:24:23,840 --> 03:24:27,560
Speaker 1: you because sped them and the Josh, it's funny, you know.

4155
03:24:27,640 --> 03:24:29,879
Speaker 1: And and again I'm not trying to tune our own horns,

4156
03:24:29,920 --> 03:24:32,120
Speaker 1: but a lot of times, uh, we sit here and

4157
03:24:32,240 --> 03:24:35,280
Speaker 1: we wonder sometimes, you know, how much people do enjoy

4158
03:24:35,360 --> 03:24:37,640
Speaker 1: the guests and trying to get as much information out there.

4159
03:24:37,680 --> 03:24:39,200
Speaker 1: We know, we don't take a lot of calls sometimes

4160
03:24:39,240 --> 03:24:41,480
Speaker 1: in the month of April because you're doing all these guests,

4161
03:24:41,720 --> 03:24:43,320
Speaker 1: and it actually, I think it makes me happy. I

4162
03:24:43,360 --> 03:24:45,280
Speaker 1: think it makes poor happy too, that it seems like

4163
03:24:45,360 --> 03:24:47,039
Speaker 1: you guys have really enjoyed a lot of the guests

4164
03:24:47,080 --> 03:24:49,000
Speaker 1: and you've really learned a lot about this draft class.

4165
03:24:49,000 --> 03:24:50,440
Speaker 1: Over the last month because that's what we tried to

4166
03:24:50,520 --> 03:24:52,840
Speaker 1: do and it is satisfying that we've done it. Thank

4167
03:24:52,840 --> 03:24:55,440
Speaker 1: you for that. We appreciate people we have on are

4168
03:24:55,560 --> 03:24:57,800
Speaker 1: up close and personal with all these prospects, and I've

4169
03:24:57,840 --> 03:24:59,840
Speaker 1: said it a billion times. They know more about them

4170
03:24:59,879 --> 03:25:05,040
Speaker 1: the we do, so why shouldn't we bring them to you. Yeah,

4171
03:25:05,080 --> 03:25:08,480
Speaker 1: and I actually bought the Dane Burglars Draft Guide that

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Speaker 1: you guys recommended, and that was a huge help just

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Speaker 1: being with you know, all these stats. The only thing

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Speaker 1: I wanted to say was I'm really happy with the

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Speaker 1: draft pick. The only the only thing I feel bad

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Speaker 1: for is Brett Jones, just because I think he's gonna

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Speaker 1: look like a midget out there next to everyone else.

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Speaker 1: You don't want the mommy on one side. And I'm

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Speaker 1: glad you said no. I'm glad you said this those

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Speaker 1: time out. This is such an important point and I

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Speaker 1: forgot to mention it earlier. So thank you. When you

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Speaker 1: have a bit of an undersized center and you can

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03:25:40,760 --> 03:25:45,400
Speaker 1: put two oversized guards either side of him, do you

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Speaker 1: know how much better and how much easier that makes

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Speaker 1: his job? If you have a chance a bot. Seriously,

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Speaker 1: I did an interview with the Mommy the other day

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Speaker 1: and Giants. He's next to me, I look like Lens.

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Speaker 1: I saw that. I thought he's a big man. So this,

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Speaker 1: this is very helpful of Brett Jones. Undersize center with

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Speaker 1: two huge building blocks on each side. That's a that's

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Speaker 1: a very big component. That's a good thing. I agree. Well,

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Speaker 1: thank you, guys, and I can't wait for this season.

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Speaker 1: Go big, thank you. Thank you by the way you

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Speaker 1: guys have been thanking. Also show give us a chance

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Speaker 1: to thank you, because great we have for the last

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Speaker 1: four months of the three and thirteen season, we have

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Speaker 1: had literally a full bank of calls on every single

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Speaker 1: show we've done. And whenever we want to go to

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Speaker 1: the phones and take calls and talk Giants football, you

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Speaker 1: guys are there, and you guys are the reasons that

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Speaker 1: Paul and I can you know, talk about this an

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Speaker 1: hour a day with Lands and Jeff and have fun

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Speaker 1: with this and it's a ball. We love it. It's fun.

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Speaker 1: And if you guys weren't out there downloading the podcast

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03:26:43,879 --> 03:26:46,120
Speaker 1: and watching online and watching on the app and all

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Speaker 1: that out of the stuff, we wouldn't be able to

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Speaker 1: do it. So thank you, guys for being a part

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Speaker 1: of the show. And here's the good news. You're gonna

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Speaker 1: have to deal with these two idiots for another day.

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Speaker 1: We're back tomorrow for coverage of Day number three of

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Speaker 1: the NFL Draft, rounds four through seven. Now, we're not

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Speaker 1: gonna say we're happy about it, but the Giants only

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Speaker 1: have pics in the fourth and fifth round, so we're

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Speaker 1: not gonna have to sit here for four hours tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: This is not happy. I want more picks. I want

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Speaker 1: more players. I'm just saying we're not gonna have to

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Speaker 1: sit here for five hours and talk. That's it. Uh,

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Speaker 1: let's see, we've been here for three and a half.

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Speaker 1: That is gonna kill you. You know that, Right, I

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Speaker 1: got plenty of time. Well, I'm not sleeping tonight anyway,

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Speaker 1: so what's the difference, all right? Anyway, the Giants have

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Speaker 1: two picks tomorrow, and I also want to promote eleven thirty, right, Natalie,

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Speaker 1: is the press conference we're gonna have. Um se Kwon.

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Speaker 1: Barkley's in the building. He walked in tonight, so I'm

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Speaker 1: walking the lobby. He will have his introductory press conference,

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Speaker 1: which we will stream on giants dot com on eleven

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Speaker 1: at eleven thirty tomorrow, and I imagine then we'll start

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Speaker 1: the show immediately thereafter, but we can't stream both at

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Speaker 1: the same time, so well, maybe we'll start to Shirley

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Speaker 1: and then we'll throw into the press comps. So we'll

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Speaker 1: figure it out. Eleven thirty Giants dot Com the se

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Speaker 1: Kwon Barkley press conference tomorrow, and then we'll a big

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Speaker 1: kick off live tomorrow again uh covering Day UH three

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Speaker 1: of the NFL Draft, the fourth and fifth round picks

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Speaker 1: for the New York Football Giants. Paul A lot of

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Speaker 1: fun is always my friend. It's been cool. John, Thanks everybody,

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Speaker 1: We appreciate you. Yes, then we'll try to be j

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Speaker 1: Hill tomorrow as well, and then maybe the Giants fourth

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Speaker 1: and fifth round picks as well. Everybody, thanks for being

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Speaker 1: with us. Good night, We'll see you tomorrow. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: being with us.