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Speaker 1: and I when Joe can talk. Joe is currently in

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Speaker 1: timeout and he's trying to figure it out. So I

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Speaker 1: am going to start this bad boy up hanging with

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Speaker 1: you guys, hanging with a bunch of you guys, glad

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Speaker 1: to see you. We have got a Dodgers game on

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Speaker 1: where Joe and I are both sweating some Bobby Miller strikeouts,

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Speaker 1: so we'll see if Joe comes back and he can

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Speaker 1: sweat with Otherwise, it's everybody's opportunity to ask questions, and

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Speaker 1: you also can come on and talk if you want, so,

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Speaker 1: just raise your hand and I will bring you up

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Speaker 1: and hopefully you will be able to continue coming on

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Speaker 1: as long as you behave behave. So let's see where

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Speaker 1: we had somebody who wanted to pop in earlier, but

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Speaker 1: I think they unraised their hand. So what that means is,

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Speaker 1: let's get to some of the questions that I am

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Speaker 1: going to start answering to you guys. I traded Caleb

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Speaker 1: Ferguson and Oswaldo Cabrera for Bednar. Is Bednar a bust

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Speaker 1: this year from T baby?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: I think I liked I liked what Roddy Tilez was doing,

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Speaker 1: and just in support if like, listen, this is an

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Speaker 1: all star, he's gonna get it right. I will say this,

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Speaker 1: I do think that this could lead to some you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe like a couple weeks off opportunities for a world

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Speaker 1: as Chapman. But I think they're going to just go

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Speaker 1: end up just going right back to Bednar. They're also

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Speaker 1: winning games, so I think they're more likely to want

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Speaker 1: to not screw anything up, you know, and there are

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Speaker 1: as in obviously they don't want to lose games. But

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Speaker 1: I don't think they're going to like move away from

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Speaker 1: fine pick. All right, going down here, we had a

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Speaker 1: lot of like nobody could hear Joe, So let's go

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Speaker 1: through the questions here. Oh yeah, somebody said right here,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if Chapman gets the next save

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Speaker 1: opportunity until Yeah, I think you could get like two

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Speaker 1: and they just go to I would not be surprised

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Speaker 1: at all if that's what they went, all right, color

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Speaker 1: bear sell High on Holiday in a twelve team head

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Speaker 1: to head categories redraft. Maybe I'm open to it.

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Speaker 2: It just depends.

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Speaker 1: I think the the determination of what sell High is

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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be hard for like whatever. I

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Speaker 1: think most people's expectation of Jackson Holiday right now is

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Speaker 1: probably a little bit beyond what maybe it even should be.

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Speaker 1: Have somebody that is like the O'Neill Cruz, if somebody

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Speaker 1: is willing to offer oneal cruise, I probably would move

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Speaker 1: off of that in redraft. But I also still think

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Speaker 1: I had done I did that CBS show where I

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Speaker 1: was giving some projections. I thought Jackson Holiday could be

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Speaker 1: ONNEO Cruise, yeah, then that's I'm gonna jump on that.

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Speaker 2: So can you hear me now?

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Speaker 1: Joey p in the house?

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Speaker 2: What's up? Joey yay? Are we recording?

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Speaker 1: We are recording. We've already even in the show.

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Speaker 2: We've started the show. That's good. I'm glad you started

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Speaker 2: the show. I'm very excited about that. Sorry, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It kept saying it saw my microphone, but I guess

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Speaker 2: it didn't really see it. So Sy, what are you

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Speaker 2: gonna do? I can only assume we're talking about Jackson Holiday.

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Speaker 1: Right, we were talking about the sell high potential, and

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Speaker 2: No, I would agree with that sentiment. And look, everybody,

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Speaker 2: if you want to speak to us, just raise your hand.

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Speaker 2: We'll call you up here because it's good to you know,

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Speaker 2: sometimes when you get the questions, it's better to have context.

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Speaker 2: It's nice to ask roster questions. It's nice to get

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Speaker 2: on with your teams.

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Speaker 1: And people, by the way, left Joe as soon as

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Speaker 1: you weren't here. They're just like, I hate the Welsh garbage,

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Speaker 1: can't do the show. So we had some people leave

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Speaker 1: who wanted to ask questions, and Joe comes back. Guess

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Speaker 1: what numbers are?

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Speaker 2: Back up?

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Speaker 1: I get where I stand, So feel free to talk

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Speaker 1: to your favorite Joe piece of Pia. I'll just sit

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Speaker 1: and watch. I'll just sit and watch you guys talk

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Speaker 1: to each other, So please come on.

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Speaker 2: No, I definitely don't want that look Tilde Baggins just

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Speaker 2: followed you on X so I mean, what more do

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Speaker 1: I thought I've always wanted in Tildo Baggins, All right,

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Speaker 1: do you have anything else? We're at Jimbo Jimbo slices

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Speaker 1: up next. I don't know if you can see that

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Speaker 1: in the chat. Is there anything else you want to

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Speaker 2: No, I think we covered a lot of it on

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Speaker 2: leading off. I want to get just enough. K's up

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Speaker 2: here because they've got a question, So just enough, K's

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Speaker 2: welcome to cleaning up. What do you have?

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Speaker 3: Joe Welch, how are we doing? Thanks for having me

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Speaker 3: on real quick, just a quick question because I waited

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Speaker 3: too long on second base? No blaze Alexander a viable

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Speaker 3: coming back probably Midsummer in twelve teams.

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Speaker 1: By the way, categories, okay, all answer it really quick

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Speaker 1: to start.

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Speaker 2: He's not.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to be a long term

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Speaker 1: going to like Jace Peterson to some so his playing

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Speaker 1: I like his offensive side, but defensively he's not great.

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Speaker 1: And that is one thousand percent why when Perdoma is healthy,

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Speaker 1: he will be back.

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Speaker 2: He will be the.

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Speaker 1: Guy, and he'll move it. So the answer is viably

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Speaker 1: long term. No, you could do it short term, so

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Speaker 1: you might want to start, I don't know, look at

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Speaker 1: trade options out there, or I don't know who else

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Speaker 1: to have him for the season in my opinion, I

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Speaker 1: don't Joe, you feel any different.

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Speaker 2: No, I mean I don't have too much to add there,

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Speaker 2: So I think that's again. Early ads are always interesting too,

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Speaker 2: because it just made me laugh the other day just

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Speaker 2: because I saw ur and Mercedes signed with some like

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Speaker 2: independent league thing, and I was like, remember that, Remember

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Speaker 2: that April. That was a fun April, Like you know,

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Speaker 2: these these crazy things happen in April sometimes, and I

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Speaker 2: just think, you know, sometimes you've got to be careful

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Speaker 2: with how we spend our fab It is a long season,

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Speaker 2: depending on how competitive your league is.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, Well, when I was, I was sighing, and

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Speaker 1: if anybody else was, Bobby Miller just gave up a

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Speaker 3: And that's my other second basement Edward.

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Speaker 1: Oh, well, say okay, so Edward, you're doing all right

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Speaker 1: if you got Edward.

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Speaker 4: So Edward, he's just he's so lackadaisical at the plays.

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Speaker 4: He can wait too many balls for strikes. It's like

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Speaker 4: it's almost like he's trying to get a walk instead

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Speaker 1: It's so crazy. I cannot comprehend the I will not

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Speaker 1: then when I get to two strikes, I become Joey Gallow.

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Speaker 1: I'm the most I just don't understand it. It's super frustrating.

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Speaker 1: But he was aggressive there, and he absolutely just launched

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Speaker 2: That you become Joey Vado. I think it's more like

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Speaker 2: Joey Vodo than Joey Gallo. How many pitches that Joey

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Speaker 2: Vodo always look at. I mean it's just I mean.

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Speaker 2: Better hitter than Joey Gallo will ever be. But if

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Speaker 2: you got Edward, I wouldn't be worried. I think you're

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Speaker 2: fine there at second base. All right, let's go to

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Speaker 2: all savages here. And he's called himself Joey's dishwasher, which

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Speaker 2: is for inside baseball for some of us. What's up

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Speaker 2: Joey's dishwasher?

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Speaker 5: Oh man, I just wanted to uh to come spend

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Speaker 5: my lunch with you. Seen Joey p would have been

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Speaker 5: a live stage. Didn't even care that it was baseball.

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Speaker 2: Tell you that we don't even care the base of football.

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Speaker 2: People want to just talk and hang out anyway. This

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Speaker 2: is a baseball one though, Savage.

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Speaker 5: So I just wanted to come say hi to my friend.

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Speaker 2: We miss you. Well. I'll be doing the NFL Draft

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Speaker 2: live for two nights Thursday and Friday, so you'll get

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Speaker 2: eight hours of me in two days. That's plenty. That's

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Speaker 5: Let's go, man, that's awesome.

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Speaker 2: Now, Savage, do you have a baseball rooting interest or

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Speaker 2: you a UH fan? You're Red Sox fan? Okay, so

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Speaker 2: how do you feel about the Red Sox roster this

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Speaker 2: year and losing Trevor's story again.

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Speaker 5: I haven't followed, honestly, man, that's been it's been been

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Speaker 5: an odd year for me. I haven't even haven't even

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Speaker 2: Well, Savage, this be the day that you turn that corner.

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Speaker 2: This is the day where things go different. You get

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Speaker 2: you got excited about baseball because you're hanging out with

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Speaker 2: me in the Welsh and I want you to go

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Speaker 2: watch some baseball and I'll be talking NFL with you

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Speaker 2: very soon. But it's good to see you or sort

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Speaker 2: of or hear you or talk to you. Savage. You're

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Speaker 2: a good dude. I wish the dishwasher situation had worked

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Speaker 2: out better, but Savage did literally everything he could for

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Speaker 2: that song.

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Speaker 1: Oh savages, Oh I know savages.

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Speaker 2: Now with the dish you and a Welsh knows the

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Speaker 2: inside baseball of the Dishwashington that took a month from

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Speaker 2: Low's to get delivered. And he was trying to help

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Speaker 2: me because it turns Oh, what are the chances I

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Speaker 2: What movie is that? From Welsh? The dishes are done? Man?

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Speaker 1: He's walking more batters right now, he's getting hit harder.

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Speaker 1: He's already given up a one fourteen point four Max

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Speaker 2: I bet you can get Meryl Kelly plus for Max Freed.

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Speaker 2: Here's a great question from Jimbo Slice, Good afternoon, gents,

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Speaker 2: trade Trout and Logan Allen for Julio twelve man head

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Speaker 2: to head points. Look, Julio is hitting under two hundred

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Speaker 2: want Julio rest of season more than Trout. I know

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Speaker 2: I can't shake that difference. And it's the same that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm that's just the class. Like if I can't

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Speaker 1: It's a struggling pitching and struggling. It's almost too much

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Speaker 1: of an anomaly to me. But we know Trout's trade

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Speaker 1: hitch history. This is this is the quintessential trade of trades.

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Speaker 1: This encompasses everything you want to do in the trade market.

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Speaker 1: You have an awesome, cool Mike Trout who has a

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, this is what it's all about.

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Speaker 2: Baby. Yeah, I'm with you. So if you've got questions

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Speaker 1: I want to talk to you guys here. Everybody South

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Speaker 1: African G said, at what point does your quote worry

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Speaker 2: May. That's my answer is May. Like it's still two

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Speaker 2: You know, some guys sometimes are tip and pitches and

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Speaker 2: I'm worried for sure, but panic is not until I

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Speaker 2: along where you don't get to you know, sell high

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Speaker 2: But the way pictures are dropping like flies Welsh like

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Speaker 2: these guys like it's tough. It is really tough in

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Speaker 2: newt Bar. You're the new Bar guy, what you expect

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Speaker 2: when he returns, and maybe an honest timeline. I think

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's I think he was a triple a rehab

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Speaker 2: Here's another question from Finner. You guys write these pitching

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, Turnble's just been so good it's hard

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Speaker 2: No? No, but you gotta add him over those guys.

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Speaker 1: I like the change up. I think he's gonna keep

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Speaker 1: inducing some strikeouts and you know, if he doesn't lose command.

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Speaker 1: I think he's kind of sneaky and finner. Asked Paddock,

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Speaker 1: compared to all those guys, you probably like Turnbull's probably

436
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Speaker 1: got to just be the guy because he's been so ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: But I would go Paddock after Turnbull.

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Speaker 2: Here's an interesting one. I'm thinking a lot of questions

439
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Speaker 2: in the last couple of days about Jung Hu Lee.

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Speaker 2: He is not in the lineup today against the Nats.

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Speaker 2: Maybe a little day off there. The slashes at two

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Speaker 2: fifty five, three fifteen, three forty not great. Would he

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Speaker 2: be a bye for you because he would be a

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Speaker 2: bye for me.

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Speaker 1: Well, Joe, you didn't listen to my trade video because

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Speaker 1: in my trade video, fine, I I'm actually into Jung

447
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Speaker 1: Huli and I wasn't out.

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Speaker 2: I was drunk off WrestleMania for for you were too busy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, watching one of the greatest wrestling moments of all time,

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Speaker 1: do you actually consider by the way the Row, the

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Speaker 1: Sina to Rock to Undertaker and then Cody winning one

452
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Speaker 1: of the greatest wrestling moments like everybody talks about.

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Speaker 2: I just dropped the In This League, In This Ring

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Speaker 2: podcast for my wrestling podcast, and I'll say this, it

455
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Speaker 2: was overbooked. It was amazing. It was fun. I think

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Speaker 2: if you're gonna do WrestleMania forty, you want to have

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Speaker 2: something that kind of encompasses kind of the then, now

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Speaker 2: together forever kind of feeling of what they're doing where

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Speaker 2: you took the past and the present, but it all

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Speaker 2: related to romans, so it was all great. It was

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Speaker 2: top three. I think it's still WrestleMania three, WrestleMania seventeen,

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Speaker 2: and WrestleMania forty in terms of like giving you the

463
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Speaker 2: best moments ever? Was it was that good? I don't

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Speaker 2: know the number. Well, three is Hogan, Hogan and Andre

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Speaker 2: that's that's a very special one. Iconic. It is iconic.

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Speaker 2: And then of course seventeen is like the peak of

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Speaker 2: the Attitude era, and then you know kind of the

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Speaker 2: transition out of that question.

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Speaker 1: Also answer real quick, hold on Lee, Yes, by hard

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Speaker 1: hit numbers have been through the roof. He's barreling a

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Speaker 1: whole bunch. My take, go watch the video, but my

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Speaker 1: take is that like the way he's hitting the ball.

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Speaker 1: It's going to equate two numbers that I didn't think

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Speaker 1: he could have in the preseason. So I'm a buye

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Speaker 1: or a pickup or whatever on Jung Houley right now.

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Speaker 2: So sorry, Luis Monto's by the way, has two homers

477
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Speaker 2: sins being sent down, just putting that out there too.

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Speaker 2: So if their struggle to be had, that might be

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Speaker 2: a guy to you know, maybe pick back up. It's

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Speaker 2: it's possible, not saying impossible. By the way. Also, I

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Speaker 2: don't know if you so this breaking new. So Donni

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Speaker 2: rafaela eight year contract extension just came down.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that was yesterday. That happened yesterday, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: he signed the big eight year.

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Speaker 2: And I guess he signed it today because it just

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Speaker 2: said one hour ago since we started eating off.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they like announced it yesterday. But what's interesting, I didn't.

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Speaker 1: I still don't know these things, like I'm always getting

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Speaker 1: new news. So, like, first off, if if everybody doesn't know,

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Speaker 1: Jackson Holliday is still eligible for the PPI, the Prospect

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Speaker 1: Incentive Program because he was up April tenth, so that

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Speaker 1: was a part of the program, and Jackson Turio was

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Speaker 1: not eligible because he signed an extension in the off

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Speaker 1: season before the season started. But Rafaela is eligible for

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Speaker 1: this because he signed the extension after the season started. So,

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Speaker 1: and I'm talking about the extra pit compensation if they

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Speaker 1: were to win Rookie of the Year. So Raphaela is,

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Speaker 1: Jackson Holiday is, but like Churio isn't because he signed

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Speaker 1: a contract extension before. So just interesting stuff added to

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Speaker 1: raphael and just the whole pit compensation.

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Speaker 2: Is there another guy right now you'd be stashing from?

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Speaker 2: I know we talked about Jordan Beck, I know some

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Speaker 2: guys that you know we've talked about already, the stash

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Speaker 2: guys I mentioned either plas Meyer has looked really good

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Speaker 2: for Pittsburgh. Is there anybody else stash worthy for you

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Speaker 2: right now that you say, well, there might be an

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Speaker 2: opportunity in this rotation or in this lineup sooner than later.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's actually I'm gonna be putting in my article

509
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Speaker 1: together if people want to check that out. Bobby Miller

510
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Speaker 1: does not look good right now. That's not good.

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Speaker 2: Great now, I'll go oh in five, after two days.

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Speaker 1: Of this one hurts because I really like this one.

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Speaker 1: He's got one on. He just walked Austin Martin. It's

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Speaker 1: just and their pitching coat.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's not the like the Twins have some k's

516
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Speaker 2: in there, like I don't know, man, very frustrating.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well they're one of the highest strikeout teams. But

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Speaker 1: I have to dig back in. You can go and

519
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Speaker 1: check out my article. I'll have it posted tomorrow and

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Speaker 1: on the Thursday edition of Leading Off, we do the

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Speaker 1: prospect segment. But like Heston, Kerstatt is still up there.

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Speaker 1: Paul Skeen, Paul Skeene's is still the one I'm really

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Speaker 1: focused on. I kind of thought that they would have

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Speaker 1: been good if the would brought him up today, simply

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Speaker 1: because they have. He's only had like forty pitches through

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Speaker 1: two starts. He's not going over three innings, not over forty,

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Speaker 1: and I wonder if that's to save the Bullets for

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Speaker 1: the season. So Skeans is still at the top. Kurstatt

529
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Speaker 1: is the hottest hitter in the minor leagues right now,

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Speaker 1: and they'll probably give up on doing the Austin Hayes stuff.

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Speaker 1: Those two. And I'm still in the fringe territory of Camonaro,

532
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Speaker 1: like I could, I could see you not having Cameronaro.

533
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Speaker 1: But we're getting close to him.

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Speaker 2: Now, I'm in the I'm in the having Camonaro for sure.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I just don't want to sit for a

536
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Speaker 1: month with my problem. Like somebody had me for suggesting

537
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Speaker 1: to cut him the other day, and it's just like, well,

538
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Speaker 1: I just want to sit for a month on him.

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Speaker 2: And if it's for a month for him, if you can,

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Speaker 2: and if you're in a ten team league, it's a

541
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Speaker 2: little harder, but you know.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 2: One more here from Dan Seido Foughts on Logan Web

544
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Speaker 2: getting hit a lot of the first restarts. He's been

545
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Speaker 2: getting hit a lot all twenty twenty four. We talked

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Speaker 2: about this. You're getting hit all over the ballpark in

547
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Speaker 2: the spring, So this one, to me is also very troubling.

548
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Speaker 2: Like Logan Webb. Somebody asked me this before the show.

549
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Speaker 2: My buddy Chris asked me, would you trade Logan Web

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Speaker 2: for CJ. Abrams? Is that a trade that you would make?

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Speaker 1: Oh man, just can you imagine?

552
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Speaker 2: I said no, but I understood it like that's that.

553
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Speaker 2: That was my answer, no, because starting pitching is dropping

554
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Speaker 2: like flies. If you have anything, I keep it still,

555
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Speaker 2: but that's like right on the border where I get it.

556
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Speaker 2: But I don't know if I would do that trade,

557
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Speaker 2: But that's my problem.

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine trading like healthy pitching, like top ish

559
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Speaker 1: tier pitching right now? I can't. Abrams looks insane and credible,

560
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Speaker 1: but I just don't think I could.

561
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Speaker 2: Right, here's a Cohler Bear wants to rate his five

562
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Speaker 2: round prospect draft eighteen Dynasty points League, Langford, Cameronio, Jenkins, Job,

563
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Speaker 2: and Mayo A plus. It's pretty eighteen, so it better

564
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Speaker 2: be a plus.

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Speaker 1: It better be well Jenkins though. My only problem with

566
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Speaker 1: Jenkins is like in a f if you only have

567
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Speaker 1: five minor leaguers, I do care about proximity, and Jenkins

568
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Speaker 1: is hurt right now by it. He's got a quad strain.

569
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Speaker 1: He might not even play for a month, Like he's

570
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Speaker 1: a ways away. But every one of your guys are

571
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Speaker 1: gonna come off of they're gonna graduate this year, so

572
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Speaker 1: then like you just have maybe one of the top guy.

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Speaker 1: I'm down with it. It's but it's it's awesome, It's

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Speaker 1: still awesome, all right.

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Speaker 2: Cole's got one more question. I said that was the

576
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Speaker 2: last question, but we got to have another question here.

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Speaker 2: Do you think the A's are gonna keep Mason Miller?

578
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Speaker 2: As the closer. Yes, I said that all offseason. It's

579
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Speaker 2: the only way to keep him healthy, clean innings, no

580
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Speaker 2: up and down. Take care of him. You can have him.

581
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Speaker 2: How many days are gonna have three? Save Portunia to

582
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Speaker 2: row for the A's none, So yes to me, that's

583
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Speaker 2: absolutely as roll. It always was his role. That's the

584
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Speaker 2: way to go. And Cole says, you guys are both

585
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Speaker 2: the best? Are we the best? Welsh? You agree? Right,

586
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Speaker 2: Mason Miller is the closer, that's it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Mason Miller is the guy. Bobby Miller's not the answer,

588
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Speaker 1: but Mason Miller's the answer for sure.

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Speaker 2: Well either way, it's Miller time. So that's gonna do

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Speaker 2: it for us. But we'll be back again next Wednesday

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Speaker 2: to do this again. Thanks for joining us for the

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Speaker 2: bonus here cleaning up on our discord. If you haven't

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Speaker 2: already join our discord Fancybros dot Com slash chats, you

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Speaker 2: can get in here, ask us questions. We can get

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Speaker 2: a little deeper dive into some of your teams, some

596
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Speaker 2: of your players, some of your issues there and you

597
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Speaker 2: can talk to us live here on the channel, which

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Speaker 2: is always fun. So join the discord every Wednesday after

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Speaker 2: leading off for cleaning up. That'll do it for me

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Speaker 2: and the Welsh, but the story of the game goes on.

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Speaker 2: We'll see you next time kids, Happy holiday,