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Speaker 1: All right, Henry, we're recording this before Thanksgiving. I just
Speaker 1: wanted to be known. So your Thanksgiving plans entail. Frankie
Speaker 1: Luvu on the grill, y, Yes, So it's gonna be
Speaker 1: not your traditional Thanksgiving meal. We'll still have some some
Speaker 1: of the traditional sides like well sweep pteto cast role,
Speaker 1: weve some mashed potatoes, will have um some of the
Speaker 1: we'll have some pies and stuff for dessert. But instead
Speaker 1: of and well, I think we're gonna have ham as well,
Speaker 1: but instead of the turkey, I think we're gonna have
Speaker 1: a little Hawaiian uh Hawaiian barbecue, which is Frankie's specialty.
Speaker 1: And have you had any of it before? Yeah? I
Speaker 1: love it. I'm upset. It's like my favorite. It's like
Speaker 1: my favorite dish now like is his. He does these
Speaker 1: chicken thaghs that he marinates in his his secret family
Speaker 1: recipe that he refuses to give me because I've asked
Speaker 1: him numerous times for it, but he never gives it
Speaker 1: to me. But yeah, he marinates it overnight and puts
Speaker 1: it on the grill and it's just incredible. It's like,
Speaker 1: I don't know Hawaiian barbecue. I don't think he's big
Speaker 1: out out here on the East Coast. I would say
Speaker 1: it's not. Yeah, when I was at Stanford, it's like
Speaker 1: it's really popular out in California and there's a lot
Speaker 1: of restaurants out there that the Hawaiian barbecue restaurants. So um, Anyway,
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to that meal because I haven't had
Speaker 1: his his Hawaiian barbecue and and probably a couple of months.
Speaker 1: It's his Hawaiian barbecue recipe trump some of the Hawaiian
Speaker 1: barbecue that you've had. Let's say it's Stanford. It's like
Speaker 1: that good. Yeah it is. It's incredible. And I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: I'll try to get this recipe from him so many
Speaker 1: times and he just won't give it to me. It's
Speaker 1: Frankie one of the most well like in the locker
Speaker 1: room and feels that way. Yeah, I mean, yeah, he's uh,
Speaker 1: he's just the chill dude. Like I feel like any
Speaker 1: a lot of the Polynesian guys that I've played with
Speaker 1: in the league and in college or just kind of
Speaker 1: like the chill, kind of island vibe guys. So they're
Speaker 1: always fun to be around. And uh, yeah, Frankie's Franki's
Speaker 1: an awesome dude. We all love them. I feel like
Speaker 1: I want Frankie if I had a barbecue or like
Speaker 1: a beach barbecue, I want Frankie on the grill and
Speaker 1: Frankie d Jane because I feel like he's yeah, he does,
Speaker 1: he does. We had a barbecue. Uh this was like
Speaker 1: right after the preseason at Leo's Um and Frankie Like
Speaker 1: I felt bad because Frankie was on the girl for
Speaker 1: like hours, just cooking his trap. I feel like I
Speaker 1: like should have paid him or something, because it was yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, he was like I mean, the girl
Speaker 1: was in the middle of where everyone was sitting, but
Speaker 1: like We're all just sitting there crushing food and Frankie's
Speaker 1: like laboring over the girl for hours. I was like
Speaker 1: feel like, yeah, you know, he does, he does. I
Speaker 1: think he likes the fact that we all are like
Speaker 1: obsessed with it because like, it's not just me that
Speaker 1: loves the like everybody that eats it loves to check it.
Speaker 1: You just you just mentioned Leonard Williams, so of course
Speaker 1: was traded a few weeks back to the Crosstown Giants.
Speaker 1: What's the relationships like with you guys along the defensive line?
Speaker 1: Because you were at the radio show inside the Jets
Speaker 1: across the street of Vanderbilt Sports and spirits inside to
Speaker 1: Windham Hamilton Park with Town Monday nights, you along lock
Speaker 1: it up Steve McClendon, uh, full of Runzo Fatakasi, Nathan
Speaker 1: Shepard and you guys really seemed like a tight group.
Speaker 1: Yeah we are we uh, we get along great together.
Speaker 1: Um obviously, Uh, you know, losing Leo was was tough
Speaker 1: because we were all really close with him and he
Speaker 1: was such a good dude. Um. We all still keep
Speaker 1: in touch with them, and like I've been talking to
Speaker 1: some of the other guys on the on the line,
Speaker 1: we all tested him pretty much every week, just checking
Speaker 1: in on seeing how he's doing so. Um, so we
Speaker 1: still keep up with him. But yeah, I mean we
Speaker 1: just we we we hang out together. Um, we all
Speaker 1: get along to other We're all um, I mean we
Speaker 1: a bunch of good dudes up front, Like, no one,
Speaker 1: no one's like kind of doing their own thing, like
Speaker 1: not really hanging out with the other guys. So we're
Speaker 1: we're just a tight knit group. Um. We spend a
Speaker 1: lot of time together obviously in the building, and then
Speaker 1: um we'll do some stuff outside the building as well,
Speaker 1: and um, yeah, we've all got good relationships and uh
Speaker 1: I think that's that's uh, that's important. What kind of
Speaker 1: activities do you guys do outside the building. I'm sure
Speaker 1: that involves eating. Oh yeah, yeah, well if includes Frankie
Speaker 1: on the grill clearly. Yeah, I mean he's an honorary
Speaker 1: remember the defensive line. I guess. Yeah, obviously eating, we'll
Speaker 1: we'll have some barbecues, Like we'll go out to eat
Speaker 1: at restaurants, and like sometimes if we're we're playing away
Speaker 1: game and we get in uh we get into that
Speaker 1: city earlier, we'll go all, well, we'll go eat together somewhere.
Speaker 1: Um this off season, so yeah, I mean most of
Speaker 1: the time it's it's eating related, which doesn't come as
Speaker 1: a surprise this this off season. Like during O t As,
Speaker 1: we went paintball together. Yeah, that was a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: That was although actually, no, it wasn't paint It wasn't paintball.
Speaker 1: It was like it was like rubber pellets or something that.
Speaker 1: Uh that, yeah, that it hurt pretty bad. Jordan Jenkins
Speaker 1: snuck up behind me one time and popped me a
Speaker 1: few times, and uh, I had some welts for a
Speaker 1: few days. Who else is good at the rubber pellet ball?
Speaker 1: Who else was good? I was Actually, I'm gonna give
Speaker 1: myself a little crow. I was out there being being
Speaker 1: pretty uh, pretty strategic out that was doing my my
Speaker 1: army crawl. I could definitely see because we just had
Speaker 1: him on the podcast a couple of weeks ago when
Speaker 1: we talked about his military background that's part of his DNA. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: he was. He was good though. He he pulled a
Speaker 1: nice little flank on me at then on one game
Speaker 1: and uh, but yeah, the guns just kept it was
Speaker 1: funny because like it was I forget how many. It
Speaker 1: was like maybe seven on seven, Like we just split
Speaker 1: it up, so seven on seven, and the guns would
Speaker 1: always just keep jamming like they were just they were
Speaker 1: not great guns and they would always keep jamming. And uh,
Speaker 1: I remember it was like four on one at the
Speaker 1: end of the game on in one game and I
Speaker 1: snuck up flank this dude, I like I'm staring at him.
Speaker 1: Like he turns around, he sees me, He's like surprised,
Speaker 1: and I try to pop in my gun jams and
Speaker 1: I don't like and then he turns around and like
Speaker 1: shoots me three times. I'm like, yeah, that's not right. Um,
Speaker 1: who's the funniest guy up front? M the funniest dude.
Speaker 1: I mean, Quinn is pretty funny. Yeah, Like does he
Speaker 1: try to always funny? Yeah, I think he does, but
Speaker 1: like he's just naturally funny too. I always just laugh
Speaker 1: at like his his accent, his southern his Southern draws
Speaker 1: is always funny to me. Just the way some of
Speaker 1: the words that like, the way he pronounced his words
Speaker 1: is um. I just I don't know, I'm easily amused,
Speaker 1: but it's it's pretty funny to me. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: had to know this for a couple of years now,
Speaker 1: since you got traded um here in Indianapolis, you hurt
Speaker 1: your throat. In the moment that you get hurt, like,
Speaker 1: can you physically tell people what's wrong with you? Or
Speaker 1: are you like so much in pain that you're just
Speaker 1: like that was. It was just something where like I
Speaker 1: feel like if somewhere would give you like a quick
Speaker 1: little chop in the throat, you'd be like to kind
Speaker 1: of take you back for a second, and then you'd
Speaker 1: just be back to normal in a couple of minutes.
Speaker 1: And that's kind of what it was like for me.
Speaker 1: Like I got hit and then I was kind of
Speaker 1: running like the quarterback through it. I turned and run
Speaker 1: to the ball, and I'm like that kind of felt
Speaker 1: weird my throat, and then I was like, it's nothing,
Speaker 1: Like I didn't think you could do anything to your
Speaker 1: throat anyway. And then uh yeah, Like that was in
Speaker 1: the first half, and by halftime it was like starting
Speaker 1: to hurt, like drink water and stuff. And then in
Speaker 1: the third quarter, I made a tackle and I got
Speaker 1: up and like screamed, and as I screamed, like my
Speaker 1: voice just cut out in the middle of my scream,
Speaker 1: which was weird, and I was like, some might not
Speaker 1: be right, and like it just kept hurting worse and
Speaker 1: worse as I was trying to like drink water on
Speaker 1: the sideline, and I just like I still literally think
Speaker 1: anything of it. I just thought it was maybe swollen
Speaker 1: or whatever, and then uh, after the game, it was
Speaker 1: like bad, like I couldn't do it, like I couldn't
Speaker 1: swallow at all, and uh the doctors were like, yeah,
Speaker 1: why don't you come in tomorrow, we'll check it out.
Speaker 1: And they didn't seem like too concerned about it and
Speaker 1: got it scanned and ended up being bad. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it wasn't wasn't a thing one of those things where
Speaker 1: I like I knew immediately that it was just like
Speaker 1: yeah that it was bad, but looking back at it,
Speaker 1: was that because I know a lot of people termed
Speaker 1: that potentially career threatening. Was that the case? Uh no,
Speaker 1: they said, I mean it it's uh no, it wasn't
Speaker 1: career threatening. They said, like if I was there, I
Speaker 1: got kind of lucky because they said it could be
Speaker 1: like life threatening because like obviously the thing that I
Speaker 1: that I fractured, I fractured like cartilage, and the cartilage
Speaker 1: that I fractured protect your windpipe and so once it's fractured,
Speaker 1: if it gets hit again, like the cartilage can collapse
Speaker 1: your windpipe and like you can stop breathing. So the
Speaker 1: the doctors were explaining that to me, and I was
Speaker 1: like I got pretty lucky there, um because I played
Speaker 1: like another half on that and luckily didn't get hit
Speaker 1: there again. So um, but yeah, I mean they said
Speaker 1: it happens a lot like in car accidents, like people
Speaker 1: whiplash and like hit their throat on like the steering
Speaker 1: wheel or something. Um, and people can like die because
Speaker 1: like it collapses their windpipe and they can't breathe. So
Speaker 1: have you ever got hitting the throat in the game
Speaker 1: after that? Yeah? Well, I get so paranoid about it too, because,
Speaker 1: like I did natural It's like I played ice hockey.
Speaker 1: I was a goalie. Anytime I get hit upstairs like
Speaker 1: in the neck area, like okay, what's happening now, I
Speaker 1: feel like my throat is like swallowing closing. As we're
Speaker 1: talking about this, they did say it happens in hot
Speaker 1: he a lot too, with the puck like coming up
Speaker 1: and hitting them, that that injury does happen a lot hockey.
Speaker 1: But now, like it'll, I'll hit and practice sometimes and
Speaker 1: like I'll I have to kind of wiggle it around
Speaker 1: and make sure it's okay, and I'll still I think
Speaker 1: I kind of piss our doctors off a little bit
Speaker 1: because I'm always kind of coming up to him like hey,
Speaker 1: like is my throat good? And they're like, yeah, you're fine,
Speaker 1: Like quit worrying about it. How does the dude who
Speaker 1: grew up in Georgia end up it's Stanford? Yeah. Um,
Speaker 1: So I liked Jim Harbaugh was there at the time. Uh,
Speaker 1: and he had he was kind of starting to turn
Speaker 1: that program around. They won, like I think one game
Speaker 1: a few years before I committed, Uh, and he was
Speaker 1: slowly starting to turn that program around. The year before
Speaker 1: I committed, they went to a bowl game, and uh,
Speaker 1: he was just a good recruiter. Like I liked his
Speaker 1: competitive attitude and uh, I really liked what what he
Speaker 1: was doing with with the program. And I think the
Speaker 1: biggest thing, Like the biggest thing too was um, was
Speaker 1: just the education that that Stanford provided. I want to
Speaker 1: private schooling to land and education and was important to me.
Speaker 1: So uh, I had some people close to me told
Speaker 1: me that if I turned out a free, full scholarship
Speaker 1: to Stanford, I'd be stupid. So I tried to follow
Speaker 1: that advice. Did Harbaugh actually come into your house during
Speaker 1: the recruitment period. Did he have that opportunity to not
Speaker 1: only talk to you, put impress mom and dead? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he did he did he Uh? I remember he had dinner.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, we had dinner together and he had a
Speaker 1: lot of food. I think he had the most food
Speaker 1: out of anybody there. And we had another there was
Speaker 1: another offensive lineman that committed to Stanford with me, who
Speaker 1: was from Atlanta, and he came with his parents. So
Speaker 1: we were all at the dinner table and Hardbay more
Speaker 1: than any of us. Um And then what was this pitch?
Speaker 1: I don't remember, but I remember beating I think it was.
Speaker 1: I think it was like a beef tender one if
Speaker 1: I remember correctly. I could be totally wrong there because
Speaker 1: it was probably about ten years ago. But he did
Speaker 1: eat a lot. And then we we went upstairs and
Speaker 1: watched Modern Family for did you really want? But now
Speaker 1: his hard but talk during the episode or does he
Speaker 1: just take it in and smile or is he outwardly laughing?
Speaker 1: And how does he take I don't remember since we
Speaker 1: brought up Modern Family now I have so last year,
Speaker 1: isn't it? I don't know. But what I do want
Speaker 1: to know is I want to create, Like I want
Speaker 1: to match someone in the locker room to a character
Speaker 1: in Modern Family, So like who's the Phil Dunphy who's
Speaker 1: Jay Pritchett, who's um awfully difficulty? Well, go ahead, figure
Speaker 1: who or what's the easiest pairing? How about that? It
Speaker 1: doesn't need to be all of them, but what's the
Speaker 1: most the one that comes to mind most naturally? Who
Speaker 1: would uh Phil dunphye be? I don't know, I don't
Speaker 1: Maybe you got any ideas. I don't, I can't think
Speaker 1: of anything. Someone that's uh, I don't know, well tough.
Speaker 1: It's such a nice guy. I'm just thinking of someone
Speaker 1: that's like, he's funny, yeah, but kind of like spacey, right,
Speaker 1: wouldn't you consider phail kind of spacing? Can you use
Speaker 1: the word dorc and in these these times, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I want to be politically correct, okay, yeah, yeah, but
Speaker 1: a little i'd say, Q is like the who's the
Speaker 1: little who's the manny? Yeah? Yeah, okay, I see that
Speaker 1: that's funny. Uh were you disappointed? You're there a year
Speaker 1: and hard bus is for me to go and they're like,
Speaker 1: oh God, thanks for the tenderloin and new coaching staff.
Speaker 1: Who's this David Sea? Yeah? It was I guess it
Speaker 1: was something that had been kind of tossed around while
Speaker 1: I was getting recruited it. He was he was like
Speaker 1: a hot coaching prospect and um could potentially leave, so
Speaker 1: uh yeah, I mean after after the after my red
Speaker 1: shirt ear, he did end up leaving, and um, it
Speaker 1: was definitely different because his coach Shaw was kind of
Speaker 1: the polar opposite of Hardball. He's more of a calm,
Speaker 1: relaxed dude. He doesn't really show much emotion on the sideline,
Speaker 1: and obviously hardball is the total opposite. So, um, but
Speaker 1: now it was good coach Shaw's Coachhaw has done an
Speaker 1: awesome job there. They've they've had a little trouble this year,
Speaker 1: but um, but I enjoyed all five of my years there,
Speaker 1: and uh, I'm definitely glad with that decision. What about
Speaker 1: your education, why, Polly sigh? He said, Stanford, it was
Speaker 1: important to you to get that education and and not
Speaker 1: turned down and offer. Yea, what did you take from
Speaker 1: classes there and why did you opt to go in
Speaker 1: that direction? Yeah, So my dad, my dad went to Lost,
Speaker 1: he did policygh my beds an attorney. He went to
Speaker 1: he went to the University of Wisconsin and he did
Speaker 1: policy and ended up going to law school. So I
Speaker 1: I had I was kind of thinking along those lines,
Speaker 1: and uh, well, initially a Stanford I wanted to do
Speaker 1: kind of like the business management agree but I took
Speaker 1: I think one math class and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: but this, this is gonna be too hard for me,
Speaker 1: because the math and science classes at Stanford are like
Speaker 1: stupid unbelievably hard, and I just didn't have the time
Speaker 1: to to like to study and and put in the
Speaker 1: work that I that I needed to do well in
Speaker 1: those classes. So I was like, I gotta do something else.
Speaker 1: And so I was pretty good at writing papers and
Speaker 1: that's pretty much all political science is is just reading
Speaker 1: and writing papers. So that's what I ended up doing,
Speaker 1: and uh ended up doing pretty well. And like the
Speaker 1: classes we're interesting too, Like it's it's a lot of
Speaker 1: cool stuff that they cover and in some of those classes.
Speaker 1: So yeah, would you what would you ever think of
Speaker 1: pursuing a LITE after this is all? Probably not? Probably not.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I want to go through law school,
Speaker 1: Like I got some friends that are that are going
Speaker 1: through that right now, and doesn't sound like the most
Speaker 1: the most fun, So I don't think I'm gonna probably
Speaker 1: not going to do that, all right? How about I
Speaker 1: want I wanted to bring up the your off season
Speaker 1: after you hurt your voice, you get traded here, you
Speaker 1: put on weight, you lose weight, you put on weight
Speaker 1: like first of all, and the initial moment where you
Speaker 1: know you have to put on weight again after losing
Speaker 1: all of it. Are you just like like you gotta
Speaker 1: give me a break and like what is your what
Speaker 1: do you do? What was your diet? Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: it was frustrating because I did. I Like, I spent
Speaker 1: the whole off season from like pretty much the time
Speaker 1: I got hurt, so pretty much from like November through
Speaker 1: um let's see April, like just eating Like my mom's
Speaker 1: a pastry chef like I've told you before, and she
Speaker 1: would always have desserts like because I would. I went
Speaker 1: home to Atlanta that offseason I was training Atlanta. It
Speaker 1: would staying with my parents and she always had desserts
Speaker 1: like and I would always have to turn them down
Speaker 1: and like no, I'm like I'm gonna get to this weight,
Speaker 1: Like I want to show the I want to show
Speaker 1: the GM and the coaches that like I'm I'm committed
Speaker 1: to what they want out of me. And uh and
Speaker 1: of course is in Indianapolis front YEP so um so, yeah,
Speaker 1: I was just eating really like just really healthy that
Speaker 1: whole offseason and and I'd have like one cheat meal
Speaker 1: a week, but that was that was pretty much it
Speaker 1: for for the whole off season. And uh so yeah,
Speaker 1: it was frustrating just because I spent so much time
Speaker 1: and dedicated myself that whole off season to losing the
Speaker 1: weight and getting to the to a certain way that
Speaker 1: I that I wanted to be at. And then I
Speaker 1: was there for like less than a week during the
Speaker 1: off season program and then they, uh they traded me.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I knew once once I got traded and
Speaker 1: the jetstrure three four, which is the old defense that
Speaker 1: we ran in Indy, uh that I would have to
Speaker 1: put the way back on. And I was like, God,
Speaker 1: I could I could have. I could have had all
Speaker 1: those desserts that mom was. I know. So I just
Speaker 1: went back home in June and got it. I know
Speaker 1: that's what I should. I did go on a One
Speaker 1: of the things that did help me is I went
Speaker 1: after so I got traded, here went through all O
Speaker 1: t A s and mini camp, and after mini camp,
Speaker 1: I went a week to like an all inclusive resort
Speaker 1: and just crushed food so that that got my weight
Speaker 1: up a little bit um. But yeah, for me, it's
Speaker 1: like it's hard for me to keep my weight up
Speaker 1: to begin with, Like I have to eat just constantly
Speaker 1: to keep my weight up. So I knew if I
Speaker 1: had add weight instead of just like maintained, it was
Speaker 1: gonna be be really hard. So yeah, I was my
Speaker 1: My coach are always my Delone coach would always joking
Speaker 1: me during O t s because I'd be out there
Speaker 1: like puking during like O t A s aren't that
Speaker 1: hard like here in helmets and jerseys, like you're not
Speaker 1: in full pads or anything, and I'm out there puking
Speaker 1: going through like pretty simple drills and he's like, you
Speaker 1: had drinking last night, Like no, I'm just trying to
Speaker 1: crush like a big huge meal before I come out here,
Speaker 1: Like my stomachs just like engorged with food. So I
Speaker 1: was just always like I was just always having to eat,
Speaker 1: and it was it was not fun. There's gonna be
Speaker 1: a lot of people jealous of you when you say
Speaker 1: that I have to eat just to keep my weight up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I just gotta That's gotta be the case
Speaker 1: even now during the regular season, though you're so active. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's it's it was hard then and it's still
Speaker 1: hard now because I'm trying to eat like clean food
Speaker 1: and when you're eating grilled chicken and like brown rice
Speaker 1: and veggies, if you need to get the calories like
Speaker 1: necessary to to like keep your weight up, like you
Speaker 1: have to eat a ton of that or just constantly
Speaker 1: be eating like different, like smaller meals throughout the day,
Speaker 1: which is harder to do during the season. But yeah,
Speaker 1: So I tried to do that for a little bit,
Speaker 1: and then I was like this, I can't eat enough
Speaker 1: of this healthy food. So I kind of relax my
Speaker 1: diet restrictions a little bit to healthy food. What is
Speaker 1: your last meal a day? Typically, like in season, it's
Speaker 1: I just have like a I have a protein shake
Speaker 1: before bed, like nine o'clock, town of class football. The
Speaker 1: usually a pretty big dinner and then protein shape. Does
Speaker 1: it almost feel like a chore to eat that much? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean because again it's I'm like, oh, if I'm
Speaker 1: out at a steakhouse or something, I can just I
Speaker 1: can eat a ton. But if I'm eating healthier food,
Speaker 1: I don't really like I don't love eating girl chicken
Speaker 1: fish or so you're a young dude still six ft six.
Speaker 1: How much do you win? It's to eighty five? What
Speaker 1: do you think you're walking around? Wait, would be if
Speaker 1: you didn't have to force it, probably to fifty or
Speaker 1: less than that, probably like to fifty five. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: know what fascinates me about you is you participated in
Speaker 1: track and field grown up, but as a runner, this
Speaker 1: dude six ft six, you running like short relayses that
Speaker 1: I mean we were, I mean, did you have you
Speaker 1: go to a small well you said you want to
Speaker 1: a private school. You might have some faulty sources. Because
Speaker 1: I did do they call them fat man relays because
Speaker 1: I was a throw so I threw like shop putting, say,
Speaker 1: and I did do a couple of fat man relays
Speaker 1: which was four by like four by ones, and so
Speaker 1: uh yeah I did that. And I did run like
Speaker 1: a two hundred, like the two hundred meter I think
Speaker 1: a couple of times, but I got toasted. Um yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but we're out there running like against because they do
Speaker 1: them in different like heats, you know, and so I
Speaker 1: think it was something where like it was kind of
Speaker 1: the one of the later heats where they're still like sprint,
Speaker 1: Like they're still smaller dudes out there running, but they're
Speaker 1: just not as fast as like the top dogs. So
Speaker 1: they I guess they didn't have enough teams to fill
Speaker 1: up the whole track, like all the lanes, so they
Speaker 1: were just like, oh, like let's put our fat guys
Speaker 1: out there and like just have them run for fun.
Speaker 1: So I think we ran, and I think I forget
Speaker 1: which leg that I I think I think I might
Speaker 1: have started it, and uh yeah, I mean I'm still
Speaker 1: at that point. I was like two forty five in
Speaker 1: high school or something, which was pretty skinny, but I
Speaker 1: was still like these dudes I was running against for
Speaker 1: less than two hundred pounds. But anyway, I tried to
Speaker 1: keep up with them for like the first little turn there,
Speaker 1: and like by the time I got to the finish line,
Speaker 1: I could barely like I could barely even run, which
Speaker 1: was I don't know, I was reading. I'm sorry it
Speaker 1: was a four by four, not a four by one,
Speaker 1: which was a four by four, like that's the whole
Speaker 1: Like I was trying to sprint like the entire circle
Speaker 1: of the track, So I was dying. It was it
Speaker 1: was bad. It was bad. I couldn't stand up finish.
Speaker 1: Do you ever run a mile? Not? Not in track
Speaker 1: and field, but the timing was yeah, like in seventh grade? Yeah,
Speaker 1: which was I think. I don't know if I ever
Speaker 1: broke seven minutes. I hated a mile. You were probably decent,
Speaker 1: but I wasn't a track and field guy. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I've always wanted to clear six and I don't think
Speaker 1: I ever did. I think one like most sixes, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think I've cleared. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: these people running marathons are running miles in four or something.
Speaker 1: There's some sick people there are. Yeah, we respect that.
Speaker 1: We respect Henry. What Thanksgiving side? Could you eat the
Speaker 1: most of probably sweet potato castroll? You could just yeah,
Speaker 1: sweep potato castro with like some marshmallows on top. That's obvious.
Speaker 1: Lot of that. No, see, I don't know how much
Speaker 1: that gets up to the northeast to sweep. Yeah. What's
Speaker 1: the popular like mash? Yeah, mashed potatoes very popular. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Do you call stuffing stuffing or dressing stuffing? Thank you?
Speaker 1: I call it stuffing. Do you consider pumpkin pie and
Speaker 1: sweet potato pie cousins same family? Kay? Do you like both.
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm no, I don't really like. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'll eat them like a right, we don't like him? Yeah,
Speaker 1: like rather, I like them both. Oh, I don't like either.
Speaker 1: I think they're okay, but like, I'd much rather have
Speaker 1: a different type, Like I'm more of like a chocolate
Speaker 1: or like I don't know, even pecan pile, like better
Speaker 1: than than like a pumpkin. I agree with that. But
Speaker 1: your mom is also a pastry chef, so I feel
Speaker 1: like Thanksgiving, she's probably whipping up something pretty nice. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think it's usually usually be a chocolate cream pie.
Speaker 1: I think that I've told you about before. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: sounds very good. Yeah, you know what I can do
Speaker 1: without and Thanksgiving or Thanksgiving? We can cranberry sauce. Get
Speaker 1: it out. I thought you either. Yeah, I thought I
Speaker 1: thought for sure you're gonna take Have you ever played
Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving? No? What about growing up? Did you guys
Speaker 1: have any traditions in terms of the fellows in the
Speaker 1: neighborhood you got together and a or not? Really? Yeah,
Speaker 1: we'd we'd go out and just throw the foot like
Speaker 1: we'd have a little football game. And during the day
Speaker 1: and then obviously at night um, Thanksgiving dinner and then
Speaker 1: we'd watch the we'd watch the Thursday the Thursday games.
Speaker 1: So nothing crazy though, just family in town. And and hey,
Speaker 1: since we were talking about Stanford a little bit before,
Speaker 1: how about the Elon Elon Musk want to Stanford for
Speaker 1: two days? I believe, so he never really graduated there.
Speaker 1: Did you see the car that they just came out
Speaker 1: of the truck? Did you see the throw the throw
Speaker 1: the rocks there at the demonstration? How does that happen?
Speaker 1: They threw the rocks at the truck because it's supposed
Speaker 1: to be unbreakable glass or windows or and the shatters.
Speaker 1: Then they then they try it again, it shatters again.
Speaker 1: It sounds like the Titanic, like, oh, the Titanic can't ship.
Speaker 1: I can't the ship can't sink. The ship can't sink
Speaker 1: the first time. It's out. Well, he's doing quite well
Speaker 1: for himself, but maybe he should have stayed at Stanford
Speaker 1: a couple more days. I don't know. I don't know
Speaker 1: what happened there. Yeah, that was wild though. I feel
Speaker 1: like if they're gonna throw a rock at a window,
Speaker 1: they'd want to test it. Yeah, a couple of billion times. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like you want to throw a couple of
Speaker 1: rocks before you show everyone throwing the rock. So, speaking
Speaker 1: of the laughs, can you give us any kind of
Speaker 1: glimpse into what it's like to be in a Greg
Speaker 1: Williams meeting room because he's so intense. You guys love him.
Speaker 1: I think everybody inside the building response to his coach.
Speaker 1: And but with that being said, there's only so much
Speaker 1: you can really leak out because he is, uh, colorful
Speaker 1: with his word choices, right, yeah, he is. He's uh.
Speaker 1: I mean obviously I can't repeat pretty much ninety nine
Speaker 1: percent of the things that he says in the meetings
Speaker 1: on here, Yeah, because this Yeah, he uh, he's a
Speaker 1: funny dude though, and like obviously he's he's I guess
Speaker 1: calmer for the most part than I was expecting because
Speaker 1: I saw him, like I saw him on Hard Knocks
Speaker 1: last year. I think it was last year, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: So I mean I saw that, and I feel like
Speaker 1: I feel like some of that was I mean, they
Speaker 1: probably picked out the most intense parts of the meeting
Speaker 1: to put on the show because that's what I was
Speaker 1: just expecting constantly from him. And he'll be like that
Speaker 1: when he's really trying to get a point across or
Speaker 1: if we if we screw something up bad, Like he's
Speaker 1: he's gonna be he's gonna be loud, and he's gonna
Speaker 1: be intense. But I mean he's pretty calm, but yeah,
Speaker 1: he he does have some interesting or choices sometimes. And
Speaker 1: I swear like there's once or twice a meeting where
Speaker 1: he pulls a word out and I'm like, that can't
Speaker 1: be a word like that. He completely made that up,
Speaker 1: like I think. And on a Saturday night he was
Speaker 1: talking and um, he used the word safetyhood and I
Speaker 1: was like, what, There's no way that's a word. So
Speaker 1: it's like the meeting. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: be the grammar police with Jet up because I don't
Speaker 1: want to kiss him off. But he'll he'll pull some
Speaker 1: words out that I'm that I'm like, I'll kind of
Speaker 1: look around and be like, see if anybody else like
Speaker 1: notices that. Usually I think I'm the only guy that
Speaker 1: really notices the you know, it's funny, like I'll just
Speaker 1: kind of sometimes I'll just be in the back of
Speaker 1: the meeting here, I'm like laughing to myself and no
Speaker 1: one probably knows why I feel like it. What would
Speaker 1: happen if Greg caught you laughing? Uh, he probably yelled
Speaker 1: at me and tell me to get my eyes up
Speaker 1: and pay attention. I feel like just being out at
Speaker 1: training camp. His phrasing of words is pristine, like it's elite.
Speaker 1: Like the way that Greg says something versus the way
Speaker 1: like I would say it. Whatever comes out of his
Speaker 1: mouth is ten times funny. Oh yeah, And because I
Speaker 1: think that's part of his coaching. His his coaching technique
Speaker 1: is he'll try to say something in a way that
Speaker 1: makes you remember it so that the next time you're
Speaker 1: in that situation you think back to like what he said,
Speaker 1: and uh, it is effective. It is effective because I
Speaker 1: still again I can't repeat pretty much every every any
Speaker 1: any of those phrases back on here, but it is effective. Well,
Speaker 1: he's hilarious. Um, he is supremely intelligent. He's a defensive genius.
Speaker 1: And then on top of that, he is such a
Speaker 1: nice man. If you get an opportunity to spend time
Speaker 1: with Greg Williams, there like, wow, this guy is really
Speaker 1: a gentleman. So I think people on the outside are
Speaker 1: thinking one thing to him is that he's a complex dude.
Speaker 1: But he's one of the nicest guys in the building period. Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1: And I was like, I was kind of I was
Speaker 1: a little intimidated by him just because you you you
Speaker 1: hear about like the reputation and and everything like that.
Speaker 1: But then once you actually get to sit down and
Speaker 1: talk with him, he's he's just a totally he's the
Speaker 1: nicest guy. And uh, well, I want to say the
Speaker 1: nicest guy, but he's he's he's he's a fun dude
Speaker 1: to be around. He's um, he's a genuine guy. He
Speaker 1: wants the best for for everybody in that room. And uh,
Speaker 1: he's yeah, I mean, he's a he's a good dude.
Speaker 1: One more thing before we let you go, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: give you an opportunity here on the Official Jets Podcast.
Speaker 1: You can accept it, you can decline it. Feelings won't
Speaker 1: be hurt. But do you want to reveal where the
Speaker 1: nickname Goose started? Says stays in the locks secret? I
Speaker 1: don't think, uh yeah, I don't think anybody knows yet
Speaker 1: in the locker room, so I'm just gonna keep it
Speaker 1: keep it close to my chest for now. Alright, anybody
Speaker 1: ends up, Yeah, there's a lot of half truths out there,
Speaker 1: but he likes the mystery. A man of mystery. Alright,
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