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Speaker 1: The second date up date.

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Speaker 2: Our word of the day for this segment is forgiveness.

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Speaker 2: Can you forgive a guy for making a mistake in

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Speaker 2: the middle of a date?

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Speaker 1: For sure, I'm sure you can. But should you forgive him?

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Speaker 1: Though probably not.

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Speaker 2: Forgiveness is a dangerous slope towards other feelings like understanding

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Speaker 2: and compassion, gratitude. None of those things sound fun or

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Speaker 2: sexy in the world, though not.

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Speaker 1: In the dating party.

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Speaker 2: But one of our listeners has decided to exercise forgiveness today,

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Speaker 2: even though she says he totally let her down.

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Speaker 1: Kelsey, are you sure about doing this?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: No, I'm sure.

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Speaker 5: Oh my god. So wait, he let you down and

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Speaker 5: he's the one not calling you back?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: Well, first of all, I apologize on beh half of

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Speaker 2: this guy and for all men in general, but tell.

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Speaker 5: Us apologizing for me.

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Speaker 1: We are sorry.

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Speaker 2: What is the name of this particular man who wronged you?

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Speaker 3: His name is Stephen?

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Speaker 1: Stephen. Everybody that I know named Stephen is terrible.

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Speaker 2: Anything about me too, and one of my best friends'

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Speaker 2: names are our producer was named Stephen. That guy, So

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Speaker 2: it sounds like you brought this on yourself. But what

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Speaker 2: did Stephen do?

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Speaker 4: So Stephen and I went on a date, and you know,

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Speaker 4: it was a good day. Like we went to the

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Speaker 4: place that I suggested, which was nice. It was like

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Speaker 5: Was it, like you're out to dinner? Is that you

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Speaker 5: guys are doing.

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Speaker 4: Or just yeah, it was dinner. It was dinner, okay,

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Speaker 4: And there was just a couple of things that kind

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Speaker 4: of irked me. I'm not gonna lie, Like, so we

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Speaker 4: saw each other for the first time, and like he

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Speaker 4: waited to me, I wait to him, but before he

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Speaker 4: second and like hold the door open for this other lady,

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Speaker 4: which fine, whatever, but I'm like, dude, we're literally just meeting.

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Speaker 2: He was just being somebody, and you're saying that upsets

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Speaker 4: Yes, totally, okay, shut the.

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Speaker 5: Door on someone.

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Speaker 1: Well, he should be focused on her.

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Speaker 4: That's why I let us slide, right, Okay.

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Speaker 1: You're more forgiving than any of us would be at

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Speaker 1: that point.

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Speaker 6: Like it's strange that it was even a flag at

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Speaker 6: all for you, but yes, okay, maybe you let it go.

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Speaker 1: Seems like it was more of a moment for her that.

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Speaker 2: She was like, excuse me, are you on a date

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Speaker 2: with me? Or on a date with this old lady

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Speaker 2: trying to get into the door.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it was probably a short though.

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Speaker 2: I could see where she's coming from. Okay, Kelsey, everyone

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Speaker 2: else is against you, but I'm on your side.

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Speaker 4: I think that's a total valid Like that, should I

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Speaker 4: even tell what the big problem was? Problem? Okay? So then,

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Speaker 4: like the game, I'm fine whatever. I was looking past

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Speaker 4: his stupid haircut.

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Speaker 1: Anyways, stupid haircut the photos.

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Speaker 6: It doesn't feel like you're looking past it when then

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Speaker 6: you call it a stupid haircut.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm on the phone with you guys talking about it,

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Speaker 4: so young, I'm looking past it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, she wants to see him again, remember that, So.

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Speaker 6: He's got a dumb haircut.

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Speaker 1: Attention to other people? So far? Did he make more mistakes?

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Speaker 5: She did?

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Speaker 1: Oh god?

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Speaker 5: What did he do next?

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Speaker 4: At the end of the gate, I was like, this

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Speaker 4: was nice to get me my uber home? And he

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Speaker 4: was like, no, you can get it.

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Speaker 5: Wait what you want to order? You? An uber?

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Speaker 3: Is that?

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Speaker 5: Is that like a normal thing? And Day never asked

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Speaker 5: somebody to buy it.

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Speaker 1: I've never asked. She just takes his phone and orders

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Speaker 4: I have never I've never had a guy tell me

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Speaker 5: That's a thing I had no idea. I also don't

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 1: That's true.

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Speaker 4: I think.

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Speaker 5: So you're mad at him. Is that you're big because

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Speaker 5: you said there was one.

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Speaker 6: Huge Yes, that was my big thing.

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Speaker 4: I was just like, I could be murdered and you

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Speaker 4: wouldn't know. And then on top of it, he didn't

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Speaker 4: even text me to check him and see if I

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Speaker 4: he knows I could be murdered.

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Speaker 2: I think all of these complaints are very, very valid

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Speaker 2: from you, But it is starting to seem like you

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Speaker 6: Why are we getting a hold of him. Is it

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Speaker 6: just because he's not calling you?

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Speaker 4: Like I said before, I got over the fact that

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Speaker 4: he didn't pay so much attention to me, he had

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Speaker 4: a stupid haircut, whatever, But I did like other things,

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Speaker 5: Good, okay, okay, all right?

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Speaker 6: I mean were you can I ask were you critical

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Speaker 6: of any of these things?

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Speaker 5: While on the day, I'm just, you know, part of.

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Speaker 2: Because that's what Brooke would do on a first say

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Speaker 2: that after you literally just railed on this dude.

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Speaker 5: You're the one that I agree.

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Speaker 1: Personally, I think he's a schmuck. He sounds like a

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Speaker 1: terrible person, but she's the one who wants to call him.

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Speaker 1: Jim would never look like that's definite deal breaker.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm not gonna lie, like I have a hard

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Speaker 4: time hiding the look on my face. But I didn't

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Speaker 4: verbally say anything to him, but like, I don't know

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Speaker 4: how my face looks. Okay, I know that you guys

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Speaker 4: always get haircuts.

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Speaker 1: They think it's good the day of, it's good, like

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Speaker 1: three days.

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Speaker 4: Later a lesson too.

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Speaker 2: We don't know when he got his hair cuting whatever

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Speaker 2: it was, doubt so. I know you can't control what

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Speaker 5: And we need to.

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Speaker 2: Figure out what's inside Steven's heart when we call him

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Speaker 2: and then also mess with his face and his hair

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Speaker 2: a little.

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Speaker 5: Bit too to get But you're not going to bring

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Speaker 5: that up.

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Speaker 1: Well, we'll see what happens.

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Speaker 5: Oh, jee, did you.

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Speaker 4: Want to know why he's not asking me out again?

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Speaker 1: Okay, we're going to find out.

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Speaker 2: We're going to call this schmuck coming up with your

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Speaker 2: second date update right after the.

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Speaker 1: Second Date update. We've had a lot of strong, brave

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Speaker 1: women on this segment.

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Speaker 6: Before Brooks in every one of them, Hey, that's actually

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Speaker 6: not hey, I'm in the room to Oh.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah you too. I think Kelsey may be the

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Speaker 1: bravest of them all.

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Speaker 5: Okay.

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Speaker 2: She boldly has chosen to forgive Stephen for his list

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Speaker 2: of mistakes on their first date, paying attention to the

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Speaker 2: old lady when they were introducing to each other.

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Speaker 5: And was old that he holds the door for jem.

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Speaker 1: Why would he hold it for an able doesn't make

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Speaker 1: any sense.

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Speaker 5: All women, Jeff, for gentlemen, anybody.

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Speaker 1: They can open the door themselves if they were able body.

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Speaker 2: She also chose to for give his stupid, dumb haircut.

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Speaker 1: I'm very proud of her for that, and she asked

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Speaker 2: Most importantly, she chose to forgive him for not paying

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Speaker 2: for her uber ride home after the date after she

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Speaker 2: asks after she asked him to, he said no.

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Speaker 5: Such an awkward moment.

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Speaker 2: But despite all of those mistakes that Stephen made, she

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Speaker 2: has chosen to look past them and give him one

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Speaker 2: more chance.

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Speaker 1: With this call today.

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Speaker 5: Oh wow, Bravery, you.

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Speaker 1: Are so strong, so brave for what you did.

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Speaker 5: I know you know, I'm excited. Toe.

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Speaker 6: Can I ask one question? After he said no on

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Speaker 6: that Uber ride? Did you just stand there awkwardly at

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Speaker 6: awkwardly for an Uber ride?

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Speaker 4: No? I walk away?

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Speaker 5: Okay that's how the date ended.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully after this call, you never have to pay for

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Speaker 2: your own Uber ever. Again, that's our goal for you today.

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Speaker 1: So here we go. I'm gonna dial Steven. Let's see

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Speaker 1: if he even answers. Probably won't. I don't trust the guy,

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Speaker 1: don't like him. So here we go. Hello, Hey is

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Speaker 1: this Stephen? Yeah, it was this, Oh Steven, Jeffrey. We've

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Speaker 1: heard a lot about you, Steven.

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Speaker 5: We've heard a lot of good things about you. Steven.

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Speaker 1: I don't know about that man.

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Speaker 5: I listen to his language to Jeffrey, listen, I.

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Speaker 2: Know blandering us. We're a radio show, a very popular

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Speaker 2: one called Brook and Jeffrey in the Morning.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like a prank call.

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Speaker 1: We do do those.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you'd probably be happier if it was.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is called a second date update, and we

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Speaker 2: are trying to help one of our listeners figure out

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Speaker 2: what happened on the date that you went.

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Speaker 1: Out with her.

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Speaker 3: Well, who are you talking about?

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Speaker 1: It's a girl named Kelsey?

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Speaker 3: Oh of course, my god?

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, what's up with that?

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Speaker 3: I was probably the nuttiest girl I ever met.

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Speaker 5: Really, sometimes that can be good? Is that a positive?

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Speaker 1: She's really eccentric.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if i'd want to be called nutty.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we know a little bit about what happened

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Speaker 2: on the date. We're just trying to figure out, like,

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Speaker 2: how did you experience that night?

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Speaker 3: Well, look, so it started okay, we were having a

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Speaker 3: good time, and then towards the end of the day

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Speaker 5: Is this like after dinner?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So after dinner I offer her a ride home.

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Speaker 3: Oh and so we're going there. But halfway through, she says,

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Speaker 3: can you stop at the store for me?

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Speaker 1: Wait? Wait wait, wait wait wait you offered to drive

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Speaker 1: her home?

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Speaker 5: She no, she got an uber.

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Speaker 1: She told us that she wanted an uber home.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, just wait, just wait, we'll get to that. Wait.

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Speaker 6: So she takes the ride, and you guys are in

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Speaker 3: Halfway to her place, she says, stop at the store

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Speaker 3: for me.

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Speaker 5: Okay.

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Speaker 3: You go in there and she's getting all this like skincare,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, eighty four dollars and thirty six cents that.

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Speaker 5: I pay Not that you remember or anything.

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Speaker 1: Did you say you paid it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I paid it because the card declined. She was

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Speaker 1: I think anybody would have picked it up.

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Speaker 5: Like are you mad about it?

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Speaker 3: No. What I'm annoyed with is the mixed part too,

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Speaker 4: Oh.

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Speaker 3: So I tell her, all right, let's get back of

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Speaker 3: I don't feel comfortable with that. I want to get

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Speaker 2: After you had just paid for her dinner and for

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Speaker 5: Well, she was over, she's in the car. Yeah, why

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Speaker 3: I don't know, Like I was just out three hundred

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Speaker 3: So it was just really weird to me, Like, I

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Speaker 1: So you're like, no, because they could drive you home.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we we missed that part of the story, and

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Speaker 4: Stephen, Oh, yeah, he wouldn't do it. Oh, well, what

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Speaker 4: he wouldn't pay for it?

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Speaker 2: Well, hold on, Telsey, you didn't tell us any of

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Speaker 2: the stuff about going to the store and him buying

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Speaker 1: We thought it was after the restaurant matter.

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Speaker 2: Well, that part of the story does matter, because we're

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Speaker 2: oh god, what.

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Speaker 4: Did we do?

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Speaker 5: We outed her?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we didn't out her. Stephen did he's the jerk.

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Speaker 2: I told you you can't trust this.

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Speaker 6: Guy, the guy who got taken on a day.

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Speaker 3: Of answering her questions.

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Speaker 2: Stephen, do you feel bad for making her look like

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Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, I feel so terrible for her.

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Speaker 1: Wow, why would you speak?

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Speaker 2: I can't believe you didn't offer to pay for her

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Speaker 3: I don't even get like why she called you in

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Speaker 5: That's what she told us. She kept saying like you

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 2: She's a kind soul who's willing to forgive you for

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Speaker 2: all the mess ups that made.

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Speaker 3: What are the mess ups that she even mentioned?

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Speaker 5: You did some horrible things?

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Speaker 1: Is long? My friend? Do you really want to dive

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Speaker 1: into this?

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Speaker 6: I don't know if you realize this, but you opened

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Speaker 3: Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 2: In the of greeting Kelsey, so she felt belittled that.

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Speaker 5: You do know that Jeffery's being sarcastic right now?

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Speaker 3: Right, Stephen, I don't know you guys, so I have

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Speaker 1: That was rude.

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Speaker 2: We've been talking for the last like five minutes, and

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Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying. Kelsey had a point.

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Speaker 6: How far into the date did you realize that you're

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Speaker 3: Well, once we get to the store and she gets

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Speaker 3: all the skincare products, I thought it was weird when

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Speaker 2: It's it's skin care products to look beautiful for you.

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Speaker 1: I'm not That's what you don't get, Steven. That purchase

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Speaker 5: You know, you don't really under when she's not on

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Speaker 2: Somebody needs to stand up for brave Kelsey, who bravely

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Speaker 3: You're gonna die on that hill.

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Speaker 5: Huh, he will die on that hill. It's gonna be

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Speaker 5: a very lonely hill, but he's on you know what.

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Speaker 2: I've never done this before, Steven, and honestly, I'm not

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Speaker 2: a big fan of you, but I'm still going to

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Speaker 2: offer to give you a gift certificate to pay for

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Speaker 2: a new haircut.

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Speaker 3: Oh Jack, my hair, well me.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Kelsey said that she liked it a lot,

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Speaker 2: but Brooke and Studio when she saw your photo was like,

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Speaker 2: we got to make a change the.

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Speaker 5: Steve, that's not true. I've never seen your picture.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I could send you a few different pictures.

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Speaker 5: Brook and Jeffrey in the morning.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I just got done sending Brooks contact in f.

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Speaker 2: Steven, So Brooke, there should be some photos arriving in

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Speaker 2: your box and a couple of.

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Speaker 5: I don't any photos any man.

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Speaker 2: You can sort them like you normally do, and all

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Speaker 2: your color coded hot guy folders, which is very bold

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Speaker 2: of you to do on your work computer.

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Speaker 1: But more power to you.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's just of employees.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's that's allowed. That's fair.

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Speaker 5: That they're all not hot is the problem.

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Speaker 1: With what you're giving.

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Speaker 2: So as far as Kelsey goes from that call, I

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Speaker 2: gotta say I appreciate a woman who knows exactly what

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Speaker 2: she wants, and what she wanted was to rudely hang

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Speaker 1: I respect her for that. Did she know what she wanted?

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Speaker 5: I don't know. It's hard to make up products.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and the guy to pay for everything, which is fair.

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Speaker 6: I guess I still feel bad that a card was

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Speaker 1: Knew was going to be declined.

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Speaker 5: How she's a scammer. You just shut your card off

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Speaker 5: on the app. It takes two seconds.

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Speaker 1: You Oh, you're in the negative already.

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Speaker 5: I was about to buy her face cream.

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Speaker 1: She's scamming her way right into all of our hearts.

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Speaker 2: And you can do if you email the show, we'll

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Speaker 2: call that person who's not calling you back and go.

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Speaker 2: Check out all of our Second Date podcasts, all of

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