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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Official Chests Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Dangling a stake in front of the lion and you

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Speaker 2: ain't got no cage in between you. He gonna get

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Speaker 2: to that state.

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Speaker 3: So let's go inside the matchup. I Motivated Aaron Rodgers?

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Speaker 3: Is it Dangerous? Aaron Rodgers?

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Speaker 1: Shine Bright, Do Good with Kendrew Scott. Happy New Year's Deal,

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Speaker 1: Happy New Year's what's a resolution?

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Speaker 5: I don't have any resolutions?

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Speaker 3: Do you have any? Yeah? To keep my hair? I

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Speaker 3: think your hair like maybe a man may. I'd be

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Speaker 3: happy to sit there there, put put my coconut oil.

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Speaker 3: This You're still young guy, no more man. You know

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Speaker 3: it's crazy. You know.

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Speaker 2: I was sitting there and I was watching the The

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Speaker 2: George Foreman, The George Foreman Story.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm like, damn, I'm only one year younger

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Speaker 3: than he was. When you want a championship, Remember how

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Speaker 3: we looked at George. He's George's like old grandpa. He

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Speaker 3: had his pants, so I'll look to him. Tell me

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Speaker 3: and stuff like that. I'm like, damn, I'm one year

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Speaker 3: younger than when he won the title.

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Speaker 2: Michael Moore, Yes, I'm like, man, So like technically I'm

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Speaker 2: like an old dude now. Like remember how we used

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Speaker 2: to look at forty four forty five back in the day.

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Speaker 1: Well, we were just talking about it before.

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Speaker 4: Like when you go back and look at old games

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Speaker 4: and you see the player snapshot up there, and like

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Speaker 4: a rookie out of Penn State, the dude who was

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Speaker 4: twenty one or twenty two years old years old about

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Speaker 4: twenty five years ago, he looks like he was forty.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, man, rookies different.

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Speaker 2: Remember Greg Olden came in, Greg Olden came out the

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Speaker 2: wounds as a teenager.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, nuts nuts. So no resolutions, then keep my hair, Okay,

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Speaker 5: So that's one.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's fine.

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Speaker 3: I'm not crowning.

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Speaker 4: Jet season is ending Sunday against Miami Dolphins.

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Speaker 3: It's that late slot.

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Speaker 4: Do you make anything of Hey, potentially you can be

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Speaker 4: a spoil against the division rival, because what's at hand

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Speaker 4: here for the Dolphins is they need the Chiefs to

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Speaker 4: beat the Broncos. If that happens, Miami can go to

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Speaker 4: the postseason with the win over the Jets.

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Speaker 2: I just think, you know, Miami's flying high saying, hey, listen,

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Speaker 2: look what all we've been through. We lost our starting

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Speaker 2: quarterback and we still have an opportunity to get in

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Speaker 2: a tournament.

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Speaker 3: And we get in a tournament. Who knows And you're like, yeah, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 3: no no, yeah. If I'm not going, you're not going.

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Speaker 2: Like you may make your reservation for Cabo a little

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Speaker 2: later than me, but trust me, you going to Cabo too,

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Speaker 2: And like that's what the motivation is. And the motivation

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Speaker 2: also is like, hey, this is our last game maybe ever.

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Speaker 2: You know, you got guys like Tyron Smith, you know,

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Speaker 2: who knows what Morgan Moses want to do. He's battled

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Speaker 2: like a champion, you know, throughout the entire year. But

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Speaker 2: you know he may have to he may decide to retire.

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Speaker 2: So you always want to show respect to the last

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Speaker 2: guys who gains. It could be the last game to

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Speaker 2: ever play. You want them to remember, hey man, my

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Speaker 2: last game I won. You know, you want to have

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Speaker 4: What are you literally talking about that in the locker

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm seriously.

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Speaker 2: I remember when it was Deon Sander's last game and

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Speaker 3: We went out there like, let's let's have fun for prime.

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Speaker 3: No for that.

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Speaker 4: But I'm saying as far as keeping Miami absolutely, come on,

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Speaker 4: well absolutely we went out here like yeah, yeah, y'all.

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Speaker 3: Think y'all going somewhere.

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Speaker 2: Y'all ain't going nowhere, Okay, Like, just think how Miami

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Speaker 2: of years.

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Speaker 1: Well, the Jets should have beat him to the first meeting.

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Speaker 2: Donna thank you about how Tyreek Hill hit us with

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Speaker 2: the who the Jets, all those the memes and stuff

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Speaker 2: like when he Birdy would come in here, but use

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Speaker 2: us for all that, man, all that? Yeah, yeah, how

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Speaker 2: many playoff games if you want since you've been down there, Tyrek, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you ain't going to the playoffs this year too.

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Speaker 3: Oh man, you just I'm telling you, okay, So.

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Speaker 4: You're rooting for if you're a Jet, you're rooting for

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Speaker 4: the Chiefs to win because you want to be the

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Speaker 4: person responsible or the team responsible.

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Speaker 1: We shut the door on you, guys.

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Speaker 2: But also, like listen, I hate everybody. Yeah, I know

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Speaker 2: I can't do nothing to hate on the Chiefs, but

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Speaker 2: I want.

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Speaker 3: I want them.

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Speaker 2: I want the Broncos because we should have beat All

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Speaker 2: with the field goal. So like I want you to

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Speaker 2: So listen, remember what Sean Payton said about us. So

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Speaker 2: I'm like, man, I forget you. I know my boy

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Speaker 2: Franklin Myer is there, but I don't get right. Damn

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Speaker 2: hell no, I ain't going. We can meet at cowbo Yo.

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Speaker 2: How crazy would that be?

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Speaker 3: If?

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Speaker 4: Okay, Kansas City in the reserves. You think they're gonna

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Speaker 4: play a lot of the regular.

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Speaker 1: Well have you can't play?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, outside of guys like Chris Johones, but Calophus

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Speaker 2: and like all the young guys like you gotta play.

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Speaker 2: Xavier Worthy, Juju Smith, Shooter is a guy that's going

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Speaker 2: but they're backup tight end. I forget his name.

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Speaker 3: Gray, no Gray, No Grey, no Gray, been putting putting

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Speaker 5: Right, So Kansas City beats done for Broncos.

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Speaker 3: In Miami all height we got a shot.

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Speaker 1: So winning.

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Speaker 5: Son of the Jets beat Miami, that means the.

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Speaker 1: Door would be open for Joey Burrow Ye.

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Speaker 3: See Cincinnati he's Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, see, I got less hate for them, like because

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Speaker 3: They I ain't got nothing to do with them. I

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Speaker 2: But I'll tell you what, the Bengals get in, there'd

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Speaker 3: Baltimore don't want to see them. Nobody wants to see them.

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Speaker 2: And then if they beat if they get in, did

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Speaker 2: they mean they beat the Steelers? That Dealers don't want

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Speaker 1: They would probably play Buffalo.

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Speaker 3: Josh Allen don't want to see him.

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Speaker 2: Remember what he's went up to Orchard Parker in one

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Speaker 2: that don't affect him, right, and you know, and Kansas

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Speaker 4: So how difficult is it for you as a player

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Speaker 4: to get up dust yourself off after what happened in Buffalo.

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Speaker 4: I was talking to a number of players in the

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Speaker 4: this was a piss poor performance from us.

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Speaker 3: Well, you feel.

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Speaker 2: The game is about moments, yeah, right, and it can

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Speaker 2: you know, you had the two turnovers.

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Speaker 3: It was twelve nothing going to halftime.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, turnover on down right, that should that should have

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Speaker 2: and it just kind of snowball. And sometimes it happens

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Speaker 2: bad pace, but it's just what happens when you know,

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Speaker 2: when things go wrong and you're losing, you've been losing

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Speaker 2: all year, you just think that they're going to continue

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Speaker 2: to go bad, opposed to when things you know, when

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Speaker 2: turn around, because we always turn around, right, So it's

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Speaker 2: like the whole belief system thing.

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Speaker 4: Complimentary football too, right, Yeah, I know fans hate hearing that,

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Speaker 4: but there is something to be said for that, because

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Speaker 4: if you do have points on those first two possessions

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Speaker 2: Feel good about, if the energy is electric, you're like,

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Speaker 2: oh man, you're feeling good. Yeah, it's games about momentum

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Speaker 2: and defensively.

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Speaker 4: When you go in and you're playing okay, yeah, the

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Speaker 4: number of penalties on that first drive, but you go

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Speaker 5: How deflating is that.

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Speaker 4: Even though your offense was able to move the ball

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Speaker 4: a little bit again, but not finish.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's what it is. It's like disappointing.

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Speaker 2: But you know when you make the decision to say, hey,

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Speaker 2: know when you got your points potentially there. It's always tough,

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Speaker 2: and just to see like the the score scoreboard turn

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Speaker 3: Okay, so how can.

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Speaker 4: The Jets get the ball through the hoop this week

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Speaker 4: against the Dolphins.

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Speaker 2: It's the same thing we've been saying all day and

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Speaker 2: I'm sure it be the the mantra for the entire year.

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Speaker 3: You gotta finish.

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Speaker 2: Like it's great to move the football, it's great to

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Speaker 2: gotta finish, man, and you know that's that's what you

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Speaker 2: gotta do. And so this week you start with finishing

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Speaker 2: attention in detail, right, because it gets more difficult to

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Speaker 2: close you get because it's less space, so it's easier

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Speaker 3: So you got to figure out a way how to

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Speaker 3: get into the end.

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Speaker 4: ZO no surprise for you late in that ball game

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Speaker 4: when Aaron Rodgers came out at that point fortyen or

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Speaker 2: But yeah, because I feel like it was late in

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Speaker 2: the game and it's at that point. You know, it's

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Speaker 2: a zero sum game, and you know, tyrod deserved the

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Speaker 2: opportunity to play a little bit, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: He's been here and going through the due diligence.

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Speaker 1: And consummate professional Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Doing everything for a holy season, and it's good to

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Speaker 2: allow the fans and allow people to see what he

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Speaker 2: looks like.

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Speaker 3: And he looked down good.

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Speaker 4: So we're gonna hear from Aaron Rodgers here later this week.

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Speaker 4: We're taping New Year's Eve. It is Tuesday. I imagine

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Speaker 4: he'll go talk on McAfee and then talk to the

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Speaker 4: media here Wednesday, like he typically does at one Jets Drive.

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Speaker 4: What do you think is going through his head? Is

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Speaker 4: he just focuses on this game, knowing of all this

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Speaker 4: that continues to swirl as far as what his future

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Speaker 4: looks like here, maybe retirement, maybe somewhere else.

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Speaker 2: I mean, well, like right now, you just need to

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Speaker 3: Was like, man, does it ever go away? Bro?

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Speaker 2: He's like, man, it's been seven years, and it's like,

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Speaker 5: Would you ever want to go out that tunnel again

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Speaker 3: No? I mean at this point it's a rot for me.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes I have Sometimes I have dreams that I'm going

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Speaker 3: Excitement.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but like no, a real dream, like I'm a

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Speaker 3: Go to practice. I'm like, man, you trip it? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: It's interesting when you look at a guy like Rogers

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but see what I've been around great players. What

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Speaker 3: Greatest players all the time, that's a harder pill to swallow.

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Speaker 5: So it's gonna be a lot for Rogers to digest.

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Speaker 5: He really hasn't had the ability to take a step back.

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Speaker 2: And only the thing is like if he comes and

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Speaker 3: To be a a backup.

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Speaker 2: No, So it's not like he's going to that like

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Speaker 3: Did Philip Rivers do that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So interesting next few days for the Jets entire

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Speaker 3: We're going to be hearing names.

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Speaker 4: Left and right, and you got to have a comprehensive search,

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Speaker 2: Well, the last time they were in a coaching search

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Speaker 5: All solves higher January fourteen, twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 3: Yep, it's a four season, four season. Wow. Yep, Joe

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Speaker 1: Joe came in before Robert.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you definitely want to get it you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was under gay, So you definitely want to

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Speaker 3: You want to be able to have a program that

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Speaker 2: You look at guys like Andy Reid, you look at

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Speaker 2: You're you're allowed to allow of programs. Really easy to

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Speaker 1: Of this, because means it goes all the way back

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Speaker 1: in the day.

444
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Speaker 3: It's a build. Correct.

445
00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:09,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's rare, right because I feel like Steve A.

446
00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:13,560
Speaker 2: Shoddy enhanced the culture, right because you know his infrastructure.

447
00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:15,920
Speaker 3: But also like the continuity.

448
00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:17,960
Speaker 2: Like I said, I go over there and I still

449
00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,240
Speaker 2: see the same people cooking the eggs that was there before.

450
00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:22,119
Speaker 2: And you see that over here. I come here, I

451
00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:26,600
Speaker 2: see Rosie Ronaldo Wan. You know, guys are still Here's

452
00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:28,960
Speaker 2: like that that's important, you know what I mean. People

453
00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,719
Speaker 2: are staples, right, Like Valve is still there. She's been

454
00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:33,920
Speaker 2: there for twenty years, you know what I mean. That's

455
00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:37,399
Speaker 2: that's important. Your consistency, continuity, right, and you have to

456
00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:42,159
Speaker 2: build that and you know, when you look at like

457
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Speaker 2: like I said, Kansas City, that culture like and you

458
00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:46,399
Speaker 2: look at what Harrorball is doing, like he's going to

459
00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:48,320
Speaker 2: leave a culture. And when you when you have an

460
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Speaker 2: opportunity to really plan to see, then everybody starts to

461
00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,080
Speaker 2: think that way. So even if the guy who was

462
00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:55,960
Speaker 2: part of the big part of the setting the culture

463
00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:59,120
Speaker 2: isn't there anymore, the culture remains because they know that

464
00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,000
Speaker 2: that's how this is how success looks, right, So you

465
00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,879
Speaker 2: have to maintain like when people that helped set the

466
00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:09,080
Speaker 2: culture lead, like so Ozzie's gone, he's been going, of course,

467
00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,040
Speaker 2: and like now Eric Dakas is there, right, but the

468
00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:16,240
Speaker 2: culture remains, so it becomes a standard and you have

469
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Speaker 2: to be able to like it takes time, and you

470
00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:20,800
Speaker 2: have to be consistent with it, and you have to

471
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Speaker 2: make sure that you continue.

472
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Speaker 4: Let is there a lesson there in what your hometown

473
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Speaker 4: team has been able to do.

474
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Speaker 3: A little Lions because they changed their culture, right, and

475
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Speaker 3: it took a while. Yeah, it took a while.

476
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Speaker 1: Because it doesn't happen overnight.

477
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Speaker 4: And you Buffalo was a joke, right, like Buffalo's Homecoming,

478
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Speaker 4: So I wanted to ask you about Buffalo too. Is

479
00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:44,080
Speaker 4: because they hired McDermott first, and then they went out

480
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Speaker 4: looking for the GM and they ended up hiring Brandon Bean.

481
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Speaker 4: We'll work with McDermott in Carolina, So there was a

482
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Speaker 4: past relationship there.

483
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Speaker 1: When you look at the.

484
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Speaker 4: Jets searches, how important is it that these guys have

485
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Speaker 4: some kind of relationship going in.

486
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Speaker 3: A relationship can be developed. It's hard for me to

487
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Speaker 3: say that it's one way to do something.

488
00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:15,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, but we know that going in with

489
00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,280
Speaker 2: trust and belief makes it easier.

490
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Speaker 3: Right.

491
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Speaker 2: I don't know if Dan Campbell had a relationship with

492
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Speaker 2: the general manager from I think he was at New

493
00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:25,640
Speaker 2: England before.

494
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Speaker 3: I don't know if he had a relationship with him.

495
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Speaker 2: So it can be developed, it and it can be

496
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Speaker 2: and it can be a persistent relationship.

497
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Speaker 4: So you need guys to actually have confidence in their

498
00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:41,800
Speaker 4: plans but also be malleable. But also there has to

499
00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:45,040
Speaker 4: be a great working relationship behind everybody.

500
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Speaker 3: We're all top, we're all on the same team, right

501
00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:49,920
Speaker 3: and we're all trying to pull the rope the same way.

502
00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,520
Speaker 2: And you may not always agree with what I said,

503
00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,600
Speaker 2: but understand that it's coming from the right place.

504
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,600
Speaker 3: So you should want it to be successful. You shouldn't

505
00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:58,840
Speaker 3: want it to fail because.

506
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Speaker 2: You want to say that your way was right, Like

507
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,840
Speaker 2: we can always adjust plans, but we got to realize

508
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,480
Speaker 2: that we're all in this together, Like my success is

509
00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,480
Speaker 2: your success, and you know your success is my success.

510
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Speaker 4: Is this an exciting time for the Jets organization when

511
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 4: you're talking about starting a new after just going through

512
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,439
Speaker 4: the pains of this season? You've done here, if you

513
00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,399
Speaker 4: played here, you've made your home here, you work in

514
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:25,160
Speaker 4: the media here. There was so much expectation headed into

515
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,120
Speaker 4: twenty twenty four, and now as we under the final week,

516
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:29,639
Speaker 4: the Jets are sitting there four and twelve.

517
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's not ideal, and you know, but

518
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,439
Speaker 2: you know, if you give up and you just you know,

519
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 2: give into it, then it's not going to change. You

520
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 2: got to go on with the energy and the passion

521
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:41,960
Speaker 2: and say, listen, this is the time where we're going

522
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,480
Speaker 2: to fix it because eventually you'll be right, you know.

523
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:46,840
Speaker 2: So you got to go in there and say, hey,

524
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Speaker 2: what can we learn from the mistakes we went into

525
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 2: some of the hires and things that decisions that we

526
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,879
Speaker 2: made that didn't work out. You know, because if you repeat,

527
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,480
Speaker 2: you repeat the same thing. That's a true definition of

528
00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:00,720
Speaker 2: insanity if you expect a different result. Awful for the

529
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Speaker 2: fan base.

530
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Speaker 4: But and I've always said this, and I think people

531
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Speaker 4: roll their eyes at it because where I get my

532
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:13,480
Speaker 4: checks from. But Woody Johnson is committed to putting a

533
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 4: winner on the field. He wants it just as bad

534
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,680
Speaker 4: as anybody's going to the stadium on Sunday or buying

535
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,679
Speaker 4: a sweatshirt or you know, taking their kid out to

536
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:24,359
Speaker 4: training camp.

537
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Speaker 5: He wants it bad.

538
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's never been a lack of want to write.

539
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 2: And sometimes you know, you can want something a lot,

540
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Speaker 2: but it doesn't guarantee it.

541
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Speaker 3: So you just have to say, listen, how do I

542
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Speaker 3: get it right?

543
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Speaker 2: Like like I said, it's many examples of many organizations

544
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,399
Speaker 2: that they flipped it. They flipped it that that you

545
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,680
Speaker 2: know didn't have it together for a while, you know

546
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 2: what I mean, And they figured it out, and you

547
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 2: just keep you know, you keep swinging, you keep getting up,

548
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 2: you keep analyzing, you keep getting all the information you

549
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 2: can do to be a high, high percentage decision maker.

550
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Speaker 5: All right, So let's get inside the games.

551
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 4: Dolphins schematically while the Jets moved the ball big time,

552
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 4: against the Dolphins in that first meeting. They should have

553
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 4: won if we go back to that late game situation.

554
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,879
Speaker 3: When they had the ball.

555
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,879
Speaker 4: Garrett wasn't in a huge game. You're talking about Deavonte

556
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 4: Brisall didn't even play that first meeting. Dolphins though when

557
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 4: you look at.

558
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 5: Him statistically, their defense spent pretty solid this year.

559
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,440
Speaker 3: But Jets got after him in the first May. Yeah.

560
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,439
Speaker 2: I mean styles make fights, and you know, you know,

561
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:31,159
Speaker 2: certain teams you may have better matchups.

562
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:34,120
Speaker 1: With, right, Garrett got after Jalen Ramsey that first.

563
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,639
Speaker 2: Man, right, and now you know you look at you know,

564
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:41,160
Speaker 2: Davante's more locked in as well, So you picked your

565
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 2: poison that way. Uh, I think Brice should get some

566
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 2: touches you know in the past game, but also running the.

567
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,360
Speaker 3: Ball right, and you have to mix it up, right.

568
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 2: This is a team that has good players. But you know,

569
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 2: I think they still you know, lack at the linebacker position, right,

570
00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 2: you know, opportunities they don't have, you know, you know,

571
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 2: great defensive tackles. They got Khalasis Campbell, who's the mountain

572
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 2: of a man still playing at a high level. I

573
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,119
Speaker 2: still don't know if they well, I think they held

574
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 2: on to him because it was a report that they

575
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 2: were going to release him so he can get picked.

576
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 2: I know I saw that body. But now when they

577
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 2: legend we have hilarion. Yeah, so now it's like, ah,

578
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 2: let's hold on. Yeah yeah, better I.

579
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Speaker 3: Wonder what happens because you can't release him out of

580
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 3: his game. So I know he's like, man, we better win. Yeah. Exactly.

581
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:28,880
Speaker 4: Defensively, Jets going against Dolphins too, did not play last

582
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 4: week Tyler Huntley play. What kind of changes do you

583
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 4: anticipate from the Jets because you know that Tua is

584
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 4: not going to take off while he get down exactly history.

585
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 4: But Huntley, he's a thrown on the ground. He got

586
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 4: into the end zone last week against the Brons, and

587
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:51,359
Speaker 4: he can keep plays a lift.

588
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,639
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean that that just tells you what you

589
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 3: can and can't do.

590
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 2: Sometimes you can't go cover one because he sees that

591
00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 2: he's just going to turn off take off, So you

592
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 2: got to maybe have a spy air for him. You

593
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 2: got to understand that the RPO game, he's a legitimate

594
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:06,880
Speaker 2: threat to keep the ball if you you know, if

595
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 2: you don't pay him any attention, you just flattening it

596
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 2: down to the dive play out of run play, you know,

597
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:12,439
Speaker 2: so you got to be able to you know, have

598
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 2: a plan for him then, so it creates more preparation time.

599
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 6: Would you zone it up more back then, well you can,

600
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:22,640
Speaker 6: you can zone it up, but when you go man,

601
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 6: you still want to be able to get hands on

602
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 6: guys and have help over the top, and you know,

603
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 6: see if you can stop this run game with a

604
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 6: light box, but you want to be able to have

605
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 6: you know, multiple people out there so that if he

606
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 6: does that, you make him play.

607
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Speaker 4: I know people are looking ahead, but I just want

608
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 4: to ask you from the game plan perspective. The Dolphins

609
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 4: got after the Jets with their screen game in that

610
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,639
Speaker 4: first meeting, Yeah, what did the Jets have to do

611
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 4: as a counter because we saw that, especially in overtime,

612
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 4: Jonathan Smith didn't do anything throughout those first four quarters.

613
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 5: Then he took over the game in the fifth quarter.

614
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and you know they may start the

615
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 2: game off that way, right because you know, tight ends

616
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,400
Speaker 2: are using you know, big match mismatches because of their

617
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 2: size and speed and also his ability, like like really

618
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 2: the biggest thing and the theme of the year for

619
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 2: me has been, you know, when you're a blocker and

620
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 2: you get beat, you turn around and become the receiver. Right,

621
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 2: So it's like, you know, damn if you do, damn

622
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 2: if you don't, if you're a defender, because you feel

623
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 2: like you need a bull rusher upon him because you

624
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 2: just beat him off the back, he just turns around

625
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 2: to be a wide open guy. Yeah, so I feel

626
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 2: like you maybe have to switch it up. Have guys

627
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 2: on the second level that's responsible for him. You got

628
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 2: to have good eyes because you know you saw the

629
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 2: other day. I mean even yesterday you saw the port

630
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 2: with the lions and you saw a kiddo sneaking out

631
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 2: trying to block and then hold and hold it.

632
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 3: We used to call it the old it play.

633
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 2: And like guys are kind of just doing that and

634
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 2: throwback because they're saying, go ahead, beat me, beat me.

635
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 3: Like guys, so you don't know what to do, Like

636
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,120
Speaker 3: you don't know do I hit him? Do I hold

637
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 3: on to him? So what do you do?

638
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm making sure that the person that's responsible

639
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,719
Speaker 2: for him is a person behind him that if I'm

640
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 2: going man and man, I got somebody for him. I

641
00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 2: don't have somebody like I don't want you like like

642
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:02,479
Speaker 2: we used to call it green dog. I don't really

643
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,360
Speaker 2: want you green dog, and you know what I mean,

644
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 2: because I rather like like you be able from distance

645
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 2: to kind of see the whole picture, because you get

646
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,680
Speaker 2: too close to sometimes you forget it. A lot of

647
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 2: these big plays has been one of those block block blocks.

648
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 2: Oh let me go get the quarterback. Oh you beat me?

649
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 2: Oh you beat them. Legitimately, they catch the ball and

650
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 2: then they run for forty yards because everybody else is

651
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 2: tied up.

652
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 3: Man the man this guy's running. Nobody knows he even

653
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:24,919
Speaker 3: has the ball, which Dolphins.

654
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:29,719
Speaker 4: Can't get off in this game. TYREEQ Waddell, hn Smith?

655
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:31,880
Speaker 4: Which guy you circling?

656
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 2: I would say, h ad because if you can't stop

657
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 2: the run, then you got to put more resources. That

658
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 2: opens up for everybody because that means now you got

659
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 2: eight men in the box and it's creating all these

660
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 2: you know, outside one on ones.

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Speaker 3: You don't want that. But this team has way too

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Speaker 3: much speed.

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Speaker 1: Kind of a weird atmosphere.

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Speaker 4: Do you expect the Sunday more imperative than ever for

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Speaker 4: the gets.

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Speaker 5: For the Jets get on them?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Well you think that. You know they're gonna they're

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Speaker 3: gonna be fighting for their lives.

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Speaker 2: You know, especially if what happens, you know, you know

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Speaker 2: what we think going to happen happens. So I mean,

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Speaker 2: I think, you know, the Jets have to get out

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Speaker 2: to a fast start, keep the crowd out of it.

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Speaker 3: But you know this is going to be a four

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Speaker 3: quarter fight for sure. Four quarter fight. Well, I'm not

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Speaker 3: going to fight you right now. Go bring me back though,