Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Scott Patterson, I am all In podcast. This
Speaker 1: is going to be part two of season five, Episode
Speaker 1: twenty two. House is not a Home. We just got
Speaker 1: to talk and so much about it. We had so
Speaker 1: much to say, we need to split it up into
Speaker 1: two episodes, so this is going to be part two.
Speaker 1: Enjoy it everyone. Have we ever seen Rory so distressed? No,
Speaker 1: she broke down, Yes, she broke Okay, yeah she's actually
Speaker 1: you're right, she was upset with Logan and yes, but
Speaker 1: this is a life crisis. This is the beginning of
Speaker 1: her life crisis. And she went to she went, she
Speaker 1: went to the Gilmore House. She went to her grandparents
Speaker 1: to unload. She had nowhere else to go. Mommy doesn't
Speaker 1: understand me. She's not hearing me, she doesn't want to
Speaker 1: hear me out. She just wants to dictate policy to.
Speaker 2: Me, because twenty year olds are stupid and they shouldn't quit.
Speaker 1: Then that goes against everything that Laura I told her
Speaker 1: about herself, How smart she was, how true great, how
Speaker 1: what great instincts she has. You'll figure it out. Now,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, she's pulling the dictator card. So
Speaker 1: she drove them into her grandparents' arms. I listen, however
Speaker 1: you feel about Rory out there. It's a young kid
Speaker 1: who comes from, you know, a somewhat oddly privileged background
Speaker 1: without any of the accoutrement, right, and and now she's
Speaker 1: getting real support from her grandparents in terms of Chiltern
Speaker 1: and now paying for Yale and all of this guidance
Speaker 1: and this, you know, it's a seminal moment in her
Speaker 1: life where it's like, maybe this is not what I want.
Speaker 1: And how does how does she not know from the
Speaker 1: time she's a sophomore in high school or junior in
Speaker 1: high school going to Chiltern that oh gosh, I don't
Speaker 1: want this. It happens, It happens.
Speaker 2: Correct, LAURAAI said, you don't have to be a journalist,
Speaker 2: then I don't care. Go back to Yale. They have
Speaker 2: every option for you there and figure out what you
Speaker 2: do want to do. Lourl like, look, I'm team Laurai.
Speaker 2: I'm team Lorli. How mad are you if you're Laura
Speaker 2: LII and you go to Richard and Emily and you say,
Speaker 2: we all need to link arms and really work together
Speaker 2: to get her to go back to school, and then
Speaker 2: they switch a roo on you.
Speaker 3: And don't do it so mad. I'd be so mad
Speaker 3: if I.
Speaker 4: So mad.
Speaker 1: But her anger at her daughter isn't helping anything. It's
Speaker 1: just driving her daughter.
Speaker 2: I don't think she's angry, don't. I don't see it
Speaker 2: that well.
Speaker 5: Sorry, I don't know. I was going to say the same.
Speaker 5: I was going to say, I don't see her being
Speaker 5: angry either. I think she just wants to help.
Speaker 1: Well, she's barking. I get it, and it's tough love.
Speaker 1: But she's barking at her own daughter. She's not listening
Speaker 1: to her daughter. She didn't give her daughter a chance
Speaker 1: to express how.
Speaker 2: She did it.
Speaker 1: I know she didn't. I just started dictating policy. This
Speaker 1: is how it's going to be.
Speaker 2: I don't think I didn't see it. Well, yes, she
Speaker 2: said you can't live at home and just do nothing right,
Speaker 2: but I think she didn't. She's saying, go back to Yale. Like,
Speaker 2: first of all, Logan's there, her friends are there, her
Speaker 2: boyfriend's there, So don't be a journalist. Quit the paper.
Speaker 2: I don't care. Quit those classes. Go learn ceramics. I
Speaker 2: don't know art like whatever. I can't think of anything.
Speaker 2: I'm so fired up. But it's like, go back to
Speaker 2: Yale and then she brings.
Speaker 1: Up is it surprising she's got you know, she's got
Speaker 1: Christopher DNA in her He's the biggest screw up in
Speaker 1: the world.
Speaker 2: Very good point. Good point. This is a good point.
Speaker 2: I think the most important point is we didn't know Rory,
Speaker 2: like we thought.
Speaker 1: Was DNA's destiny.
Speaker 2: Yeh, and I thought it was a low blow. And
Speaker 2: she's like, you've been dreaming of this, Well, actually I
Speaker 2: was dreaming of Harvard. Well you should have gone to
Speaker 2: Harvard then, because you got in, you picked Yale, you started.
Speaker 2: That's my other thing too, is like she picked Yale,
Speaker 2: she started this. She's got to be a grown up
Speaker 2: and finish college.
Speaker 3: Do you think it has anything to do with.
Speaker 1: Pre programming, programming, He's already pre programmed to do this.
Speaker 5: No, No, I was gonna say at the dinner, I
Speaker 5: don't know.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say about the dinner.
Speaker 5: When they were like, she has a job, Like basically
Speaker 5: they wanted Rory to be someone who's just there.
Speaker 3: I'm talking about the Huntsburger dinner.
Speaker 5: And so do you think Rory's like, well, maybe like
Speaker 5: if I just sit back and you know, sit back
Speaker 5: and figure out my life and then I'll be with
Speaker 5: Logan and then they'll love me.
Speaker 2: Tara, I never thought of this until this very moment
Speaker 2: when you're saying this, Oh my god, there is a
Speaker 2: total chance you're the dinner with the Hunts where they
Speaker 2: were like telling her all the things they don't want
Speaker 2: about her.
Speaker 3: Like she wants to be a journalist, she wants a career, right.
Speaker 2: Create herself to just be the perfect wife in the
Speaker 2: dar for Logan. Mm hm, Because here's what I was
Speaker 2: gonna say. A good boyfriend is enough to make you
Speaker 2: want to go back to Yale? Do you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying? Like if I was in college, say I
Speaker 2: was just my classes were lame, you know whatever, having
Speaker 2: a fun boyfriend would have been enough reason to go back,
Speaker 2: go back, you totally would go back. You'd be like, Yeah,
Speaker 2: but I wonder if you're right, Scott. You have to
Speaker 2: admit Tar's got a theory here where maybe she's just
Speaker 2: trying to become the perfect potential wife for Logan. There
Speaker 2: is and Mary there.
Speaker 5: Maybe it's not like that's not her mindset, but maybe
Speaker 5: like it's like in the back of her head, like
Speaker 5: oh maybe, like you know, I don't think that's her
Speaker 5: like game plan, but maybe psychologically, maybe she is.
Speaker 2: Pretty obsessed with Logan more than any of the guys
Speaker 2: she's ever been with. But why would she jump to Yale?
Speaker 2: Like because they don't want her to be this career woman,
Speaker 2: but they don't want her to not be an ivy
Speaker 2: like that that breed wants IVY league people like I
Speaker 2: don't think like, I don't think that's Do we know
Speaker 2: where went That's a good question. I don't thank you.
Speaker 2: I don't think she went to you. Where did mitcham go?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, he went to Yale. That's how we knew about
Speaker 2: the secret Society.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a theory.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Okay, to we talk about Lane for
Speaker 2: a minute because we still have to go back and
Speaker 2: I want to talk about the ending. So what do
Speaker 2: you all think about Lane and sort of where the
Speaker 2: band situation was going and that missus Kim just fully became.
Speaker 1: I feel two ways. I have to feel two ways
Speaker 1: about the direction of this. The first way is, uh,
Speaker 1: it's preposterous, It's beyond preposterous. And then there's a part
Speaker 1: of me that is really enjoying it.
Speaker 6: Actually totally it's almost predictable that the Palladinos were going
Speaker 6: to have uh, missus Kim be the one that says,
Speaker 6: you're not quitting and I'm gonna I'm going to put
Speaker 6: together it.
Speaker 1: I'm going to be your tour manager basically, right. I
Speaker 1: saw that government Uh but uh yeah, I didn't hate it.
Speaker 1: I I liked I liked all. I thought Sebastian was funny.
Speaker 1: I thought Zach was funny.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought Zach was really funny, and he had
Speaker 2: some witty lines. Again, I agree Sebastian box steals the
Speaker 2: whole thing, just from his outfit to his responses to
Speaker 2: I'm coming there.
Speaker 1: I thought it was strong. I thought it was I
Speaker 1: thought it was strong for Zach too. When he got
Speaker 1: out of bed. Yeah, he's playing video game, Yeah, shouting
Speaker 1: a Lane.
Speaker 2: And you kind of have that moment too where you
Speaker 2: realize the cloths are all over the drums that you're like, oh, wow,
Speaker 2: they've really fallen into sort of a bad marriage, meaning
Speaker 2: I know they're not married, but you know, I'm saying
Speaker 2: all the four.
Speaker 1: We know what you mean, Gott just we didn't think
Speaker 1: it was literal, thank you.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm sort of happy where that's going. And
Speaker 2: Lane looks stoked, and I was missus Kim for all
Speaker 2: her everything. Was really proud of her. I know that
Speaker 2: sounds kind of dumb to say, but I was. She
Speaker 2: really pulled through and became an awesome mom.
Speaker 7: And literally planned out a whole tour for the churches.
Speaker 3: What the w is that the van?
Speaker 1: Which is exactly which is exactly what Laurel I should
Speaker 1: have done when Rory said she wanted to quit school.
Speaker 2: I don't disagree with you have come up with a
Speaker 2: plan as to why, and sort of I don't disagree
Speaker 2: with that.
Speaker 1: Be a better psychologist, right, more psychology, less dictator.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll give you. I'll give you that. I like that.
Speaker 2: I like that it might not be her way, So okay,
Speaker 2: there's a few standout scenes that I think we must
Speaker 2: talk about. First of all, the scene in the kitchen
Speaker 2: when Laureli makes it like its prison, gives her the
Speaker 2: piece of bread and water for her breakfast, and then
Speaker 2: says await and puts the phones out.
Speaker 3: I mean that's pretty funny.
Speaker 2: I was and has her mugshot and her mugshot on
Speaker 2: the fridge like the fridge. That was hysterical. And then
Speaker 2: also they say like, don't call Graham and Grandpa about this,
Speaker 2: like we'll find a lawyer blah blah blah. So then
Speaker 2: I also like Logan calling Lorelei and being all kind
Speaker 2: of squirrely and she's all not happy about it, and
Speaker 2: he's like, my father's lawyers will take care of this.
Speaker 1: Listen, let's let's let's talk about the eight hundred pound
Speaker 1: elephant in the room here at the end end of
Speaker 1: the day. How mentally tough or psychologically mature, uh or
Speaker 1: how confused is a child going to be raised by
Speaker 1: a mother who is basically a stand up comic and
Speaker 1: riffing on every possible situation in your day when it's
Speaker 1: hard to have a normous you're not having normal conversations.
Speaker 1: So it's like, is I don't want to use the
Speaker 1: you know, the s the in insane word, but is
Speaker 1: Laula a bit insane? And Laurel and Rory has to
Speaker 1: sort of like survive that and learn how to coexist
Speaker 1: within that insanity even though it's this wonderful madness of
Speaker 1: jokey jokes and quips and quick lines and all of
Speaker 1: this stuff. I mean, if we if we ground it
Speaker 1: in reality, and I'm probably ruined it for a lot
Speaker 1: of people that and I enjoyed watching the show too,
Speaker 1: But that's that's your daughter, I know.
Speaker 2: But here's the thing. I wouldn't like it if we
Speaker 2: hadn't have had the heartfelt moment in the jeep the
Speaker 2: night before.
Speaker 1: It's like, what are we surprised that the straight man
Speaker 1: in the in the in the Vaudeville act broke down?
Speaker 1: Does something bad happen to him?
Speaker 2: I'm processing she's the star.
Speaker 1: She's the star of the vaudeville act. She's doing all
Speaker 1: the jokes, and she's teaching her protege how to be funny. Like,
Speaker 1: just just let me do my jokes.
Speaker 2: You know, I understand what you're saying. But I also
Speaker 2: think there's a lot more to LAURAAI, Like, I think
Speaker 2: we do get to see the you know, we see
Speaker 2: the side of her in the jeep. We see the
Speaker 2: side of her when she went to her parents and
Speaker 2: has that real hard to heart with them of I
Speaker 2: need your help, Please help me get her to stay
Speaker 2: at Yale. This is what we've all dreamed of, So
Speaker 2: I can deal with her funny bits like the prison thing,
Speaker 2: because she also can be serious. It's just like Emily says,
Speaker 2: is this one of your bits, so I get it.
Speaker 2: They sometimes right, but she also can be very serious
Speaker 2: and she was very serious at the end, which I
Speaker 2: don't think we're there yet, but we can be. I
Speaker 2: don't think we're there. Let's let's not talk quite about
Speaker 2: the final seies.
Speaker 1: I as job, what's a parent's job. Would you say
Speaker 1: that Laurela is stable? Yes, there's stability there for r Yes.
Speaker 3: Yes, especially at this point in her life.
Speaker 5: Yes.
Speaker 2: And I think she truly loves her kid, and I
Speaker 2: think it's okay to be funny. I think what she's
Speaker 2: doing is sort of like, this situation is so bad
Speaker 2: that you got arrested, that we've had the heart to
Speaker 2: heart you feel like dog do about it, because she
Speaker 2: said she breaks down crying and says I was so stupid,
Speaker 2: and now Laura's like, okay, I'm going to make a
Speaker 2: funny bit to let her know it's okay.
Speaker 1: I think I think they're letting us No, they're just
Speaker 1: they're letting us know. It's a TV show and you're
Speaker 1: gonna laugh. Now we can properties, you know what. I'm
Speaker 1: glad I brought it up. I just wanted to debate
Speaker 1: the issue. You're one hundred percent right, I just think
Speaker 1: it's it's if we're trying to don't draw logic out
Speaker 1: of this saniness. I think we're maybe we're going down
Speaker 1: the wrong road. But I think DNA's destiny. I'll say
Speaker 1: it again. That's the last time I'll say it. I
Speaker 1: think I think she's she's part Christopher And there you go,
Speaker 1: that's what you get. Well, that's who your daddy is,
Speaker 1: and that's what he is, and that's what there's part
Speaker 1: of you that's going to do that too.
Speaker 2: One of the things I think about Gilmore Girls in
Speaker 2: the big picture is exactly what you're saying, that we
Speaker 2: we you know, we become how we were raised and
Speaker 2: history repeats itself and all those many things.
Speaker 5: But you go, I was just gonna say it made
Speaker 5: me think of that. Laurel is kind of always one
Speaker 5: step ahead of Rory. Like how she broke down to
Speaker 5: Luke and she's like, what about her record? I need
Speaker 5: soap to clean off the fingerprint, And then she figured
Speaker 5: this out already and then she goes, this is the
Speaker 5: car and Rory's like, well.
Speaker 3: What about my record? What we don't have soap? But
Speaker 3: do we have soap at home?
Speaker 5: Like I think Laurelies, even though I think that's why
Speaker 5: it's okay for her to crack a joke, because I
Speaker 5: think she's thinking way more.
Speaker 3: Ahead of Rory.
Speaker 1: Do you know that everybody in this show is in
Speaker 1: a scene with somebody else who thinks they're crazy at
Speaker 1: all times? There isn't one single scene that goes by
Speaker 1: where somebody wacky isn't opining on the other one's wackiness directly.
Speaker 2: I literally have every phone call I'm on every day,
Speaker 2: I'm like someone on this concert, especially in Hollywood. As
Speaker 2: they say, I'm like, I'm just talking people off the
Speaker 2: ledge of crazy. So what do we think of the
Speaker 2: bike race? And I do have one flag on this episode?
Speaker 2: Let's let's talk about the bike Okay.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna challenge you, guys. I do I do
Speaker 1: a Nicholas Cage homage in the scene with Taylor? Can
Speaker 1: you can you name which line it.
Speaker 2: Is which when you're signing the papers for the house?
Speaker 2: Which scene was? Okay? Yes, so you're signing the papers,
Speaker 2: I don't know, You're gonna have to tell us.
Speaker 1: I don't know what line it was, but I sang
Speaker 1: the line no. When I sang the line, I.
Speaker 2: Don't have to rewatch this. Wait, can we pull?
Speaker 1: So?
Speaker 2: Can we talk about the bike race?
Speaker 8: Well?
Speaker 2: Maybe somebody on this I don't know his Hannah is
Speaker 2: Hannah in here, Danielle Hannah. Do you think you could
Speaker 2: find a scene where Scott signing the paper so we
Speaker 2: can rewatch it. But in the meantime, Scott, do you
Speaker 2: remember having to navigate through the bikers?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I was supposed to get stunt pay and I
Speaker 1: didn't get stunt packed. And you know, is that true?
Speaker 1: Because I risked my butt doing that. I could they
Speaker 1: could have slammed and they were going fast, they were
Speaker 1: whipping around.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so what did they have it choreographed?
Speaker 6: That?
Speaker 2: Those those must have been stunt bikers because they had
Speaker 2: to full correct. And did you have like they were
Speaker 2: like you have to hit these moments or is it
Speaker 2: up to the bike.
Speaker 1: It was very precisely choreographed.
Speaker 2: It was like frogger.
Speaker 1: And you know it didn't now that I watch it
Speaker 1: all these years later, because I did see it. I
Speaker 1: did see that scene. I saw that in ad R
Speaker 1: when I was looping U huh, because he said, oh
Speaker 1: you want to see the bike scene? You know, because
Speaker 1: I looped some of those lunch before and I said, yeah,
Speaker 1: help me say it, and it looked horrifyingly dangerous. But
Speaker 1: this time it did. Time it didn't look so dangerous
Speaker 1: to me.
Speaker 2: Oh, I think that's because you've seen it like or
Speaker 2: you're used to because it looks great.
Speaker 1: It looked great, though. I thought it looked great.
Speaker 3: You know, well, so you got stunt pay for that.
Speaker 1: I wasn't supposed to do that. A stunt man is
Speaker 1: supposed to do that kind of work. Walk through there,
Speaker 1: But how.
Speaker 2: Could that they show your face? There's no way of
Speaker 2: stunts from behind.
Speaker 1: It was that right time around. I agree, Yes, I
Speaker 1: had to do it. Yes, all right, here we go.
Speaker 2: Let's all right, so let's watch this. You can have
Speaker 2: the audio, Just have the audio. What the hell is.
Speaker 1: Wrong with them? Why can't they just let the bozo
Speaker 1: and back them figure out for himself.
Speaker 2: There's a big hole there. You're awfully crabby for a
Speaker 2: man whose business is boomy because.
Speaker 1: Of this race. I want this kind of business. It's
Speaker 1: so shiny.
Speaker 2: I lobbied the race coordinators for weeks.
Speaker 6: It was a lot of uzzo and karaoke, but I
Speaker 6: bagged our town the coveted first stop.
Speaker 1: Last Stop slide wait, first stop, last stop, meaning they.
Speaker 2: Start here today, circle the state, then in here later
Speaker 2: this week.
Speaker 1: Every one of them will be coming back big, oh big,
Speaker 1: oh unbelievable.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's so good.
Speaker 1: The unbelievable line. What is it from Honeymoon in Vegas
Speaker 1: when he's when he takes Sarah Jessica Parker to Vegas
Speaker 1: to marry her finally and he can't wait to get
Speaker 1: her up in the suite and they're all hot and
Speaker 1: bothered and all that, and nobody's at the front desk
Speaker 1: and he's ringing the bell and he says, can I
Speaker 1: get a room? And he starts singing stuff. I was
Speaker 1: on location to a Little Big League and we watched
Speaker 1: Honeymoon in Vegas every single day, multiple times a day,
Speaker 1: for three months in Timothy Busfield's trailer, and we were
Speaker 1: obsessed with Cage's performance. And it just shows you how
Speaker 1: things can influence you.
Speaker 2: So, speaking of the bike race, there is a scene
Speaker 2: I think it's the scene maybe where the lane gets
Speaker 2: the guys the fries and they're all in the din
Speaker 2: in the in Luke's diner and the people from the
Speaker 2: Bike Grace are in there, and can I just throw
Speaker 2: a flag that like one of the people from the
Speaker 2: bike race is still wearing their helmet while they're sitting
Speaker 2: in the diner eating, Like, wouldn't you take your helmet off?
Speaker 1: No, some people don't do that. No, some people do
Speaker 1: not do that, and it annoys me. Like when I'm skiing,
Speaker 1: they come into the lodge and they get their lunch
Speaker 1: and they sit down and keep their are freaking helmets on.
Speaker 2: Bizarre that scene for me, it was really hard for
Speaker 2: me to watch Lane and Gil and Brian and Zach
Speaker 2: because I was so distracted by all the extras. I
Speaker 2: was just couldn't take my eyes off.
Speaker 5: Even that scene with Taylor and Luke even just now,
Speaker 5: I was like, there's a lot of people on the back.
Speaker 2: The other thing is, I think Michelle was pretty funny
Speaker 2: in this episode. You know, like it's the big gift
Speaker 2: basket and obviously, uh, you know, that's the sort of
Speaker 2: a funny banter with the two of them, and then
Speaker 2: you know, Luke comes over to fix the banister and
Speaker 2: that's where he realizes, like, wait a minute, what's going
Speaker 2: on with Mike Armstrong in this job? And he gets
Speaker 2: all pissy and which is what leads us to the
Speaker 2: moment where he froggers through the bikers because he's like,
Speaker 2: draw up my three days to mull it over, Like I'm.
Speaker 1: Out, wait, you're missing the Luke's funniest moment ever.
Speaker 2: Oh I thought it was his most important moment.
Speaker 1: No, it's not the funniest, funniest right, yeah, and then
Speaker 1: at the kid and then he but like he let
Speaker 1: it out and then he had to recover. That was
Speaker 1: Luke's funniest moment ever.
Speaker 2: I agree, funniest, but also wow, it was also his
Speaker 2: most real were like.
Speaker 1: Right, God, so much on the line, right, yes.
Speaker 2: So I love that whole scene. I think that whole
Speaker 2: scene is so important.
Speaker 1: That gave up. She gives up college. Everybody's quitting.
Speaker 2: It's the ind But oh you mean, oh well, we'll
Speaker 2: get into the scene at the diner too. But do
Speaker 2: you think Luke was a little over the top worrying
Speaker 2: so much.
Speaker 1: I had to set up a joke. That's why it
Speaker 1: was so funny.
Speaker 2: Right, what about the kids? Right?
Speaker 1: You had to you had to go over the top
Speaker 1: with it to set up the joke.
Speaker 2: Lauren Graham had to do some solid face acting, and
Speaker 2: so did you in this some solid face acting.
Speaker 1: It's it's different from regular acting.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 1: No, it's not. It's all connected.
Speaker 2: Let's face acting. Wait, let's watch you frauderant.
Speaker 1: And it's not a separate technique. Obviously we love your acting, Scott,
Speaker 1: but your face acting you should work on. You know.
Speaker 2: I do see how that could have been a stunt person.
Speaker 1: On the on when it was on my back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's way better that it's you.
Speaker 1: I think they tried it, but nobody could nail my walk.
Speaker 2: It's distinct. So can I comment quickly as we're going
Speaker 2: to talk about this scene. I am obsessed with Laura Lai.
Speaker 2: She had that beautiful black floral dress with the pink sweater.
Speaker 2: I mean, the fashion is amazing. But so she goes
Speaker 2: to the Friday night dinner thinking they're going to have
Speaker 2: the plan is going to be in action and Richard
Speaker 2: and Emily. Emily's in her chair and Richard's standing, and
Speaker 2: they drop this bomb on her like she's going to
Speaker 2: live here in the pool house, and it's just kind
Speaker 2: of tragic in a way. It's like, oh my gosh.
Speaker 5: I don't think they delivered it right. Like I think
Speaker 5: if you're going to turn your back on a promise
Speaker 5: and a plan you made with your daughter. There should
Speaker 5: have been a better way to deliver this news, not
Speaker 5: like well, yeah, Rory came to us, she sided with us,
Speaker 5: so we're gonna go, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 5: I think there was just first of all, maybe call
Speaker 5: her and give her heads up before she comes to dinner, right,
Speaker 5: But also just like you can't just say we completely
Speaker 5: scrapped your idea and Rory's right and she were doing
Speaker 5: what's right for her.
Speaker 1: I know he said to Laura l I that that
Speaker 1: your mother and I have had a very thorough discussion
Speaker 1: about this.
Speaker 7: And that's the prob because Lorala needs to be there,
Speaker 7: he needs to They couldn't have.
Speaker 1: That discussion with Laura I because the discussion wasn't about Rory.
Speaker 1: It was about Laurel I. That's why that she couldn't
Speaker 1: be involved in it. And I think they took the
Speaker 1: decision like Laura, I screwed this girl up. We're going
Speaker 1: to fix her. Simple as that, simple as that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that's how they feel. I think that's how
Speaker 1: they feel. And you know they talked about Christopher too,
Speaker 1: being I think they just her father and what a
Speaker 1: horrible example she's had.
Speaker 2: I don't think so trauma of.
Speaker 1: Dealing with this, this loser father of hers who's not
Speaker 1: even around that insult to injury, you know. I mean,
Speaker 1: if if he was off being successful, it would still
Speaker 1: be painful, but at will least he would be setting example.
Speaker 1: He's super successful. Not that that would reinforce anything terribly
Speaker 1: positive on a consistent basis, but at least, but he's
Speaker 1: like not only is an absent father, he's a loser.
Speaker 1: He doesn't succeed in anything.
Speaker 2: I just think they couldn't say no to their crime granddaughter.
Speaker 2: I think grandparents cannot, and aunts and uncles have When
Speaker 2: you love these people so much, right, parents know they
Speaker 2: have to say no, whereas the grandparents, especially grandparents, they
Speaker 2: just couldn't say no.
Speaker 1: Or what would you do if you're if you're Emily,
Speaker 1: what would I do if I was Richard? And I
Speaker 1: know it, and I don't know my daughter the way
Speaker 1: the audience knows that my daughter. The audience loves my daughter.
Speaker 1: They see all these colors, and they see all this grit,
Speaker 1: and they see all this strength, and they see all
Speaker 1: this motivation and wisdom and all this being great mother.
Speaker 1: They don't see that that's not their opinion of their daughter.
Speaker 1: They think she's disturbed, that she's always doing bits, that
Speaker 1: she's a rebel, that she's a maverick, that she's an outsider.
Speaker 1: Now her daughter is failing after we you know, but
Speaker 1: the daughter the money where our mouth is, and we're
Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna get her out of this death spiral
Speaker 1: and get her back on track.
Speaker 2: Laura I wasn't failing, That's what Laura I wanted.
Speaker 1: No, they wanted help.
Speaker 7: It's just interesting because I think if it were anybody
Speaker 7: else would be like, you need to stay in Yale,
Speaker 7: like this is for your future, this is for your livelihood,
Speaker 7: like all those things. But we saw when Rory went
Speaker 7: to Richard at first, like.
Speaker 2: He pawning it off.
Speaker 7: He's like, I need to have this conversation with you know,
Speaker 7: your Emily should here or.
Speaker 2: Whatever he said.
Speaker 7: He like literally tried not having the conversation and then
Speaker 7: she just melted. Yeah, and then and he couldn't take it.
Speaker 2: So I think.
Speaker 7: Boundaries right, well, I think to him it was he
Speaker 7: was so on board with lorealized plans because that is
Speaker 7: the right thing to do in a guiding factor. But
Speaker 7: then when he realized like my granddaughter is crying to
Speaker 7: me right now. It changed his entire world.
Speaker 5: Well, and she didn't have, like she doesn't have a
Speaker 5: father figure to go to, like Richard, is that mother?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 1: Dare you say that Luke is her father?
Speaker 2: I am your fell I think that. I think Tara,
Speaker 2: you're you're putting a button on what Scott has been
Speaker 2: saying that she doesn't even though I don't know that
Speaker 2: it's so much about Christopher, she doesn't have a father figure.
Speaker 2: It would have been interesting to see what Christopher would
Speaker 2: have done in this situation. Richard just caved, like we
Speaker 2: all do. We hate saying no to our kids or
Speaker 2: our grandkids, our nieces and nephews. We want to make
Speaker 2: them feel better. What Laura I was doing was the
Speaker 2: hard thing to say. I'm not just gonna cave and
Speaker 2: give you what you want. I'm going to say no.
Speaker 2: This is a bad idea.
Speaker 5: And I guess it's also just going off of what
Speaker 5: I said about the father figure, Like if you have,
Speaker 5: let's say, an argument with your mom, you're just gonna
Speaker 5: go to your dad.
Speaker 3: Right and then and then your mom's gonna get up.
Speaker 5: It is hypothetical, but like your mom's gonna get upset
Speaker 5: because then you're getting your dad on your side.
Speaker 3: I think it's worse for Laura I to go that it's.
Speaker 5: Going to her parents, like then she really feels defeated.
Speaker 2: I agree with that. Uh huh, So okay, there's so
Speaker 2: much more to even still break down.
Speaker 1: But you know, Laura Lai and her parents don't have
Speaker 1: a real relationship, so there's no that's right. And that's
Speaker 1: why it was right.
Speaker 2: That's why it was so painful when she comes to
Speaker 2: them and says, I need your help, and they tell
Speaker 2: her they were on her side. They agreed with her.
Speaker 2: They were all linked arms.
Speaker 1: And then Rory, well they I think they still are
Speaker 1: on the same page. They just diverged on the methodology, right,
Speaker 1: what they wage methodology to apply.
Speaker 2: But they should have said it, you'll move in here,
Speaker 2: the same goal, right. But what they well that's what
Speaker 2: they claim. But what they should have said, what do
Speaker 2: you think they want to do with her? They're What
Speaker 2: they should have done is say you'll move in here
Speaker 2: for the summer. We're going to take care of you.
Speaker 2: We're going to get through this. But with the plan
Speaker 2: being in August, they really start to say you're going
Speaker 2: back like it's it's just bananas that she's quitting Yale.
Speaker 2: That being said, my favorite scene is the final scene
Speaker 2: where Laura l II goes into the diner and she
Speaker 2: tells Luke Roy dropped out. She's moved in with my parents.
Speaker 2: They've stabbed me in the back. She was supposed to
Speaker 2: have more than me, right, So you get this powerful like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, you really understand where she's coming from.
Speaker 2: And then Luke really does what Laura Lai needed and
Speaker 2: you see it in her face, this smile, this she's
Speaker 2: not in pain. She's so in love with him because
Speaker 2: he's like, Okay, we'll call Yale. We'll do this. Well, uh,
Speaker 2: you know, we'll we'll take shifts and follow her to
Speaker 2: class and you know, I'll work around your schedule. And
Speaker 2: he's just being so amazing and that's where the face
Speaker 2: acting comes in. She's so in love and says, will
Speaker 2: you marry me?
Speaker 1: What? Well?
Speaker 2: It was amazing? What did everybody think?
Speaker 3: I have some thoughts ahead?
Speaker 7: So this is my This is my take, I think
Speaker 7: Lorlai because one thing that I don't think we really
Speaker 7: addressed fully is Luke earlier in the episode said for
Speaker 7: the kids, so like this is his time. He's addressing
Speaker 7: that he wants kids.
Speaker 2: Right. What we talked about.
Speaker 7: In the last episode is now actually a factual thing.
Speaker 7: So and we saw how Laura forgot about that. So
Speaker 7: that's that's the first thing that stuck in my head.
Speaker 7: The second thing is she has single handedly lost all of.
Speaker 2: Her people in this episode.
Speaker 7: Rory has quote unquote turned on her and is now
Speaker 7: living with Richard and Emily. Richard and Emily.
Speaker 2: Are with their granddaughter.
Speaker 7: So Lourla is on this little island, and I think
Speaker 7: she is feeling very alone and the last thing she
Speaker 7: can lose is Luke, and you're securing him at all costs,
Speaker 7: even though maybe she doesn't want to have children, or
Speaker 7: even though maybe she doesn't want to, you know whatever.
Speaker 2: Like I don't. I didn't see it. I had a
Speaker 2: different genuine to be honest.
Speaker 8: I.
Speaker 1: Agree with that.
Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't have that take.
Speaker 7: That was a hail Mary, that was a please don't
Speaker 7: ever leave me. I'm so alone, you cannot leave me.
Speaker 2: I did not have that take. I look at her
Speaker 2: face and I see her hearing Luke being so on
Speaker 2: her side, being so the partner that she's longed for.
Speaker 2: That She thought she could go to her parents and
Speaker 2: get them to, like I said, link arms with her,
Speaker 2: all hands in the middle, be her teammate. So she
Speaker 2: goes to the diner just devastated. I say it again,
Speaker 2: Rory dropped out. She's moved into my parents. They stabbed
Speaker 2: me in the back. She was supposed to have more
Speaker 2: than me, So not not. He doesn't just say it'll
Speaker 2: be okay, I love you. He is like her teammate
Speaker 2: on it. Here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna do this.
Speaker 2: We're gonna do this. We're gonna do this. And you
Speaker 2: see in her face. You see her face change right
Speaker 2: from being so upset to smiling to me. She knows
Speaker 2: she's found the partner she's always been looking for. And
Speaker 2: so she has this calm and happiness and says, will
Speaker 2: you marry me? Because she's saying, I don't need any
Speaker 2: more information other than what I've just received that you
Speaker 2: are the guy, you are the one. We're in this together.
Speaker 7: Yeah. I took it as you are the only one
Speaker 7: on my team. You're you're getting, you are getting.
Speaker 1: I've got sign you to a contract. God, I just
Speaker 1: I gotta go out there and Okay, I couldn't sign
Speaker 1: my own daughter. I couldn't sign my grandpa. I am
Speaker 1: offering you a lifetime deal right now.
Speaker 2: Respectfully disagree, does a house? Please watch her face, you
Speaker 2: dous Just do me the solid and watch her face.
Speaker 7: I know what you're talking about.
Speaker 2: No, I know.
Speaker 3: It's also her timing.
Speaker 5: Like I'm always like, oh, Laura, I like if you
Speaker 5: just like I think she just doesn't think things through,
Speaker 5: Like if I because I I agree with Danielle. But
Speaker 5: if with what you're talking about, Amy, If that's the case,
Speaker 5: why tonight Why the second that she's having a bad night,
Speaker 5: suddenly getting married to Luke is going.
Speaker 1: To fix that's he's constantly showing his loyalty and his
Speaker 1: love to her.
Speaker 2: And like, okay, so when you even aha moment, you
Speaker 2: have the moment of you go, this is the moment.
Speaker 2: This is the moment. So you're right, why tonight? Why
Speaker 2: not tonight? This is the moment.
Speaker 3: Because her head's in a different her heads in a
Speaker 3: different places.
Speaker 2: That's not what I saw from her face. If you
Speaker 2: watch her face, I see it change, and I see
Speaker 2: her have that moment of going even when the poop
Speaker 2: is hitting the fan, this guy's in it with me,
Speaker 2: and that's what I want. I want, I.
Speaker 1: Want to be But he's always been like that.
Speaker 2: But the moment everyone has.
Speaker 1: Every episode, every time we see him, he's like that
Speaker 1: went to the.
Speaker 7: Hospital when Richard was sick.
Speaker 2: Like all the things, He's younger.
Speaker 1: I mean, he was younger back then. He looked the people,
Speaker 1: why not have a moment and propose to him in
Speaker 1: the because people don't.
Speaker 2: Have that moment till they have that moment. In his prime,
Speaker 2: didn't have the moment until they have the moment. So
Speaker 2: she had it at that very moment.
Speaker 1: I mean, they could have had a bunch of kids
Speaker 1: by now, she'd have just but it's just.
Speaker 2: I don't know. It just didn't feel right to me.
Speaker 2: Right watch her face.
Speaker 7: Watch I get I know what you're talking about because
Speaker 7: I saw that and I was like, But the more
Speaker 7: I think about it.
Speaker 1: This is what I'm tired. I'm going to tell you
Speaker 1: what I'm tired of. I'm tired of everything that Laura
Speaker 1: l I does is right, it's what is going on.
Speaker 1: Why can't she be criticized, right?
Speaker 2: She can just not by me. Everybody can criticize her.
Speaker 2: But I'm just through and through team Laura.
Speaker 1: You're questioning her motives here, we're questioning why.
Speaker 2: Now that's right, you three are all on the same ten.
Speaker 1: I mean, she's hell bent for leather. She's gonna screw
Speaker 1: this up too by proposing to him. Let's talk about
Speaker 1: the appropriateness or inappropriateness of that. What what I said?
Speaker 2: Obviously wait for season six Team Laura Lai. I'm like,
Speaker 2: hell yeah, And I love the last line? What what
Speaker 2: that was? That was good acting? Scott, How you responded
Speaker 2: to that last line? I was like, that was a
Speaker 2: good on that? So not only is he good that
Speaker 2: what you're good at voice acting?
Speaker 4: Stop?
Speaker 1: How good at finger acting? Yeah, you're like talking about
Speaker 1: this really good face acting.
Speaker 2: But just let me let me world, let me live
Speaker 2: in my laurel Li. I mean I think, Look, I
Speaker 2: want to be Lorelei. I love Laura I everything about Loralai.
Speaker 2: I felt it since I watched this twenty years ago.
Speaker 2: So I'm glad you all have a different perspective. I
Speaker 2: don't hate you for it. I just don't think you're right.
Speaker 1: I think it's a way, it's almost a way to
Speaker 1: sabotage her relationship with Luke in a weird unconscious way.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm really gonna screw everything up now. I'm
Speaker 1: going to put the cherry on top of this cake,
Speaker 1: and I think I'm going to propose to this guy
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 2: It's like what I also think she didn't think it through.
Speaker 2: She just saw how awful she drove. It was amazing.
Speaker 2: I loved it.
Speaker 1: Literally, it was definitely a show stopper for sure. It
Speaker 1: was entertaining, it was.
Speaker 2: Shocking, great cliffhanger.
Speaker 1: It was worth the price of admission. I'll tell you this.
Speaker 7: Actually, this was a really good episode because it's like,
Speaker 7: is Rory going back to Yale, or luc and Laura
Speaker 7: getting married or they engage, like she's staying in the
Speaker 7: is Rory staying in the in the poolhouse? With what's
Speaker 7: going on with Mitchell, Like there's so many things to
Speaker 7: set up season six.
Speaker 2: Danielle, before we go, give us like your I don't
Speaker 2: know one minute predictions of what you think will happen
Speaker 2: in season six.
Speaker 7: I think Rory goes to Yale, Like, I don't think
Speaker 7: she drops out. I think she's still in love with Logan.
Speaker 2: Maybe she goes.
Speaker 7: I think she stays in the poolhouse and maybe she
Speaker 7: starts to be like a little bit more adventurous and
Speaker 7: then look and Lorla, I think are going to being
Speaker 7: quote unquote engaged.
Speaker 2: But it doesn't.
Speaker 7: It's not a solid foundation in my opinion. And that's
Speaker 7: that's my prediction.
Speaker 2: We'll see.
Speaker 3: Are you going to watch when?
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Billy, I'm so sorry I forgot to announce that
Speaker 2: people are worried about that Danielle will keep up while
Speaker 2: she's on maternity leave. I might send you voice memos.
Speaker 3: Please do please do one voice.
Speaker 7: An episode that you can just play at the end.
Speaker 8: And we have a Danielle's say, we will have a
Speaker 8: surprise uh what do we call it, Scott, a surprise
Speaker 8: special guest for during maternity leave, A surprise host guest
Speaker 8: co host.
Speaker 2: During the maternity leave that we will reveal in when
Speaker 2: we do episode one of season six. Danielle worked hard
Speaker 2: to plan her maternity leave, tied right to the end
Speaker 2: of season five of the I Am All In Podcast.
Speaker 1: Now that's what I call good timing. I think, Glora,
Speaker 1: I can use a little lesson or two, a thing
Speaker 1: or two from the book of Danielle.
Speaker 2: I do think we have one. Unless Danielle goes into
Speaker 2: labor early, we'll have one episode with the four of
Speaker 2: us one, two, three, four and the new person, and
Speaker 2: then Danielle can pass on the I Am All in baton.
Speaker 2: It makes me so depressed. I'm like literally like I'm
Speaker 2: going to.
Speaker 7: Watch these episodes and want to talk about them.
Speaker 2: So it's weird because you're going to miss all of
Speaker 2: season five basically, I mean, sorry, you're going to miss
Speaker 2: all of these six.
Speaker 1: Just newborn. Your newborn is going to be inductrinated into
Speaker 1: the I Am all in vibe right away anyway. So
Speaker 1: I think at this point, I think, at this point,
Speaker 1: you know what, I think you want to ask me
Speaker 1: what I think about season six and what's going to happen.
Speaker 2: I think it, Yeah, I want to ask you, but
Speaker 2: I don't know what you know and what you don't.
Speaker 1: Well can I speculate?
Speaker 2: Sure?
Speaker 1: Thank you? Uh. I just think at this point, Luke's
Speaker 1: frustration is biblical, to use a word. I mean, how
Speaker 1: frustrated does this guy have to be with a single
Speaker 1: the single focus of his his his heart before he
Speaker 1: just decides to, you know, like close up shop, go
Speaker 1: to Israel, you start the twelve tribes again. You don't
Speaker 1: have as many babies as he can with multiple women
Speaker 1: and you know, like Joseph, right, did Joseph do that?
Speaker 1: So it's like the guy wants to have some kids. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he wants he wants to start a Dane's clan so
Speaker 1: that maybe they can return to the United States and
Speaker 1: defeat the Huntsburgers and the Gilmours. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: think that'd be a pretty good storyline actually, And no, seriously,
Speaker 1: who the heck knows? Who knows well we are?
Speaker 9: And I do well, I don't he knows just the
Speaker 9: entire twenty years ago.
Speaker 2: It is kind of awesome that you guys don't totally know.
Speaker 2: I mean, Scott, you probably remember it things I know.
Speaker 1: I don't remember a thing about season six. I have
Speaker 1: the what's going to happen?
Speaker 7: You know?
Speaker 1: I don't know that much about the movies. I don't
Speaker 1: to know. And whatever I did know, I forgot because
Speaker 1: I wanted to forget the movies.
Speaker 2: Are the movies are bad? Wait? Am I hot or cold?
Speaker 2: Can you just tell me that?
Speaker 1: No, don't don't.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to answer that now. Also because people
Speaker 2: will will go crazy on me. They get so mad.
Speaker 2: But I guess I can't protect our girl on Instagram.
Speaker 1: All right, what are we all right, let's wrap this up?
Speaker 1: What are we giving this.
Speaker 2: To? Ten? Ten? Bread and waters?
Speaker 1: Tara? What are you rating this? Puppy m I'll.
Speaker 5: Give it a nine point eight Rory mudg Why.
Speaker 1: Why the deduction? Why the two tenths deduction? Tell me to.
Speaker 5: Me, it's like, I'm just frustrated by them, and it's
Speaker 5: not my favorite final. I mean it's like pretty big,
Speaker 5: which not my favorite finale.
Speaker 7: Danielle nine point nine five stunt bikers.
Speaker 1: Oh man, uh yeah, I'm gonna get up. I'm going
Speaker 1: to deduct for the ending, even though it was really strong.
Speaker 1: Now you can't, you can't deduct. I think it's it's
Speaker 1: consistent with her character to do something like that, so
Speaker 1: I don't want to deduct. I'll deduct for maybe the
Speaker 1: Missus Kim stuff, but only a little. I think it's
Speaker 1: a nine point nine six three. No, nine point nine
Speaker 1: six two. Smudged contracts.
Speaker 2: No, wait, we have to figure out what's going to
Speaker 2: happen with the Twickham House. But we'll have to worry
Speaker 2: about that in season six.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you want to do favorite lines, Amy, what's your
Speaker 1: favorite line?
Speaker 2: Oh? So many?
Speaker 1: Everything about There was some hesitation.
Speaker 2: What what's but it's also what about the kids? What
Speaker 2: about the kids? Right about the kid?
Speaker 1: There you go, I think, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: And also honorable mention too. My god, those are good genes.
Speaker 1: Mm hm.
Speaker 2: Anyway, I mean Rory Stole yacht, I have so many
Speaker 2: wash you with that logan, kid.
Speaker 3: What My favorite was what it's just because I said it.
Speaker 1: Aloud to My favorite was was what about the kids? Yeah.
Speaker 1: Also I gotta put the tailor's line about the Mark
Speaker 1: Jacobs right right up there. It was my first chuckle,
Speaker 1: first chuckle. Anyway, all right, thanks kids, best fans on
Speaker 1: the planet. Next episode season six, oh my episode one,
Speaker 1: know and improved, Laurele, I, we will see ya on
Speaker 1: the backside if you're gon't if you're now on the
Speaker 1: front side, uh whatever that means. Thank you, Tara, thank you, Danielle,
Speaker 1: thank you Amy. Best fans on the planet. And here's
Speaker 1: a fun little tidbit. We're gonna launch season six with
Speaker 1: the girl, the woman, the actress who played my sister
Speaker 1: Kathleen Wilhoyt Liz is coming on a pod. We're real excited.
Speaker 1: We had a really great talk with her.
Speaker 4: So good.
Speaker 1: Anyway, that's gonna do it. Thanks for you downloads. Keep
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Speaker 1: need you, You need us. You hate to admit it.
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