1 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode, a little thing we 2 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: like to call the after party. This is the show 3 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 1: after the show, the party after the party, the bridge 4 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 1: to get from one full episode or Disgraceland to the other. 5 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 1: The backyard, to dig into the dirt, our mission to 6 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: uncover the truth and to confront the myth, to reclaim 7 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: the story. On this bonus episode, we discuss how Oasis 8 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: is this year's actual World Cup winner. We take a 9 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:54,639 Speaker 1: look at Happy Mondays in their rock and roll debauchery. 10 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,319 Speaker 1: Preview next week's new episode, where you'll find out how 11 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: Dolly Parton defied the expectations of startup in more ways 12 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: than you thought. Plus we get into your emails, comments, dms, 13 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: and as always, a whole lot of rosie. This is 14 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: the podcast for the musically obsessed, the outsiders, the independent 15 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: thinkers who know that the best history is the history 16 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: that gets buried. Disgrace Lands, where I tell the stories 17 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 1: they didn't want told, the kind you'll end up telling 18 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: to someone else. All right, justs goes, Let's get into it. 19 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: All right, we are here, we are all together. I'm 20 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: playing hurt today. I got something I came down with 21 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: this morning and man, it's hitting me. It's hitting me hard. 22 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: But you know what, I can't be stopped. I cannot 23 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:46,119 Speaker 1: be contained because I have a game today. All right. 24 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: We all have a game today, three o'clock Eastern England Argentina. 25 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: I too have, somehow, like most people that I've spoken 26 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: to over the last few weeks, managed to become a 27 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: soccer fan this summer. All right, the world has been riveting, 28 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: and it's been pretty rock and roll. Okay, rock and 29 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,519 Speaker 1: roll is gloriously at the center of the World Cup 30 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: this year thanks to England's team and their fans. The 31 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: images of star player Harry Kane locking arms with his 32 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: teammates after the victory against Mexico and running to the 33 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: stands while being deafened by England supporters serenading their team 34 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: with Oasis's Wonderwall was riveting television. So by the time 35 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 1: you hear this episode, it's gonna be Thursday at least. 36 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 2: And England will have either won or lost against Argentina 37 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 2: for the. 38 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:39,839 Speaker 1: Semi finals, and Wonderwall will either be further cemented into 39 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: the zeitgeist or put on mute for the time being. 40 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: Hopefully we're still hearing Noel Liams chorus though, ringing in 41 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: our ears, and hopefully we're getting ready for Caine's men 42 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: to take on Spain in the finals this weekend. Go England, 43 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: is what I'm saying. And yes, it's because of rock 44 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: and Roll. It's because of Wonderwall. Before the World Cup, 45 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 1: I could give a shit about English soccer players, and 46 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:04,839 Speaker 1: then I got pulled into the action like everybody else. 47 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: At first, I found myself glued to a big outdoor 48 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: screen in a park in Budapest with my family while 49 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 1: on vacation, rooting for the US against Australia. 50 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 2: As the Cup progressed. 51 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: I was watching games without the United States just got 52 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: pulled into it. 53 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 2: It was curious, what's all this about, you know? 54 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: And I found myself rooting for the underdogs so that 55 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 1: the US would theoretically have an easier path to winning 56 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: the tournament. They were eliminated though, in the last round, 57 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: but it didn't matter because by that time the games 58 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: themselves had pulled me in. Okay, the game, this game, 59 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: this amazing game. Subtle violence, it's lulling vibe, flow and rhythm, 60 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: and the game's quick flashes of aggression when the players 61 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: break through with the goals. The game itself pulled me in. 62 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: There's a weird sensation to watching this game. It's different 63 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: from any other sport I've watched. It's like some flow 64 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: state high. You get glued into the action and then 65 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: a goal happens and you're euphoric for an instant and 66 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: then immediately you're thrust right back into the tide that 67 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: doesn't really stop for about two straight hours, except for 68 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: those pesky hydration breaks, of course, which are quite controversial, 69 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: as I'm coming to learn. 70 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 2: But back to rock and roll, all right. 71 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 1: I intended to root for Mexico over England in the 72 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: Round of sixteen. I really did, because fuck England. I'm American, 73 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: and despite our own insane geopolitical history of oppression and corruption, 74 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: rooting for imperialists it just ain't my bag, baby, so Mexico. 75 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,359 Speaker 2: But I couldn't root for Mexico. I tried. It was 76 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 2: the way they played. 77 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 1: They annoyed me just watching them, the way they're fucking annoying, 78 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,359 Speaker 1: and the crowd was on their side, and I like 79 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: an underdog because like I mentioned, I'm an American. And 80 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,799 Speaker 1: then England went down a man and had to play 81 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 1: with just ten players against Mexico was eleven, so I was. 82 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 1: I was in and I like the Harry Kane dude, 83 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 1: I do. 84 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 2: I just like him. I like him on the field, 85 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 2: I like how he plays. And there was the whole 86 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 2: Wonderwall of it all. 87 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 1: I knew that in the moment in that game, because 88 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: a few days earlier I was rooting hard against England 89 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: and four dier Congo and dier Congo had them on 90 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 1: the ropes and they almost beat him, but Caine and 91 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 1: the boys came back and won, and the stands went 92 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: nuts with Wonderwall and I caught it and I was like, 93 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 1: what the fuck is this? And then I saw Courtney 94 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: Love on Instagram waving an English flag talking about soccer, and. 95 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 2: I was like, cool. 96 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 1: So when the Mexico game happened, when that was happening, 97 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: I should say, and my allegiance was shifting. Part of 98 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: the reason was that I was hoping to catch a 99 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: little more of that Wonderwall magic at the end of 100 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: the game. And what do you know, England beat Mexico 101 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: and anyway, here's Wonderwall and it. 102 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 2: Was fucking glorious, man, it was awesome. It's fucking you Fork. 103 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 2: Like I said, all these people just so happy. 104 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: And I know all winning team soccer fans, football fans 105 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: are happy in the World Cup, but they. 106 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 2: Don't have wonderwall Man. That's the difference. 107 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: It's glorious, or is Liam Gallagher tweeted after hearing his 108 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 1: voice ring out through as Techas Stadium. I sounded fucking biblical. 109 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: He said something like that, It's perfect England. You are 110 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: my team for the rest of the tournament, however long 111 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 1: that may be all right. Hopefully again when you're hearing this, 112 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: England's on their way to play in the finals against 113 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: against Spain, but who knows, it might be Argentina. One 114 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: of the coolest things back to rock and roll here. 115 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: One of the coolest things that I've learned in all 116 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 1: my research on Disgraceland subjects is ha Liam's brother Noel 117 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: developed his musicality. It was from soccer or football. It 118 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 1: was from sitting in the stadium watching his team, Man 119 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: City and listening to their supporters. It's directly responsible for 120 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: Noel Gallagher's and theemic songwriting in Oasis. 121 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 2: Here's what I mean. 122 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: This is from part one of our two parter a 123 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 1: an Oasis mat give them the clipp four years old 124 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: with his dad at Maine Road Soccer Stadium, the hallow 125 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: ground where Manchester City's sky blues hovered above the drudgery 126 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: of working class Manchester, England. Noel Gallagher sat amongst two 127 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: thousand other kids, stashed away in the stands by their 128 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: fathers who fucked off to the stadium's bars. And it 129 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: was here that one of the cornerstones of Noel Gallagher's 130 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: songwriting was cemented by the rockous sound of man City's 131 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: goal celebrations, thunderous rolls of noise from the bounce of 132 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: stadium attendees, poe going out of their seats and erupting 133 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: into song whenever City found the back of the net, 134 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: a full throaded, community wide chorus of the working class, 135 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: united in their support of and commitment to their club. 136 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 2: Warring their team's chance. Boys in Blue were really not. 137 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: Here nineteen sixty two and the show stopper Blue Moon, 138 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:55,679 Speaker 1: and not in the lame ass, rogers and heart style 139 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: that Elvis Presley popularized with his falsetto. At Maine Road, 140 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: the Moon was shouted staccato style, a sort of pre 141 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: punk gang vocal, being hammered out by thirty five thousand strong. 142 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: It was simple, easy to latch onto, anthemic, fucking epic 143 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: nol Gallagher would. 144 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 2: Never forget it. 145 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: So, like I said, rock and Roll has me rooting 146 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: for England. Okay, no offense to the rest of the 147 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: teams in the World Cup who remained after the US 148 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: gut bounced. But England has the richest musical history. They 149 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: really do. But who knows. Again, like I said before, 150 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:32,839 Speaker 1: by the time you hear this, maybe Messi magic has 151 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: struck and England has been dismissed. Let's hope not. If 152 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: that opens, If that happens opens. 153 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 2: If that happens, I guess I'm rooting for Messi. I 154 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 2: like that guy too. 155 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: I do because not just because he's like, you know, 156 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 1: the Michael Jordan of soccer, but like Mike, like Mike Kane, 157 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: like Michael Kane, like Harry Kane. Messi's got hair that 158 00:08:56,679 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: is that is not decidedly on ll Okay, like ninety 159 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 1: percent of the players in this tournament. I don't know 160 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 1: what's up with the soccer haircut, the shaved bowl cut, 161 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: Lloyd Christmas starter kit. I can't stand it. Everybody's got it. 162 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: It's like ninety percent of the players have this haircut. 163 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 2: It's awful. 164 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 1: Seth and I are going to get into this riveting 165 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: subject of soccer player's hair to some degree, along with 166 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,719 Speaker 1: more World Cup talk and behind the scenes look at 167 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 1: the new episodes of Disgrace sand that we're putting together 168 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 1: for you right now. 169 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:28,959 Speaker 2: We're trying to figure out what we're putting together right now. 170 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: Some of these are coming from your suggestion, some of 171 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 1: them are just stories we've wanted to tell ourselves for 172 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: a long while, and we're trying to figure out which 173 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: ones are next. Okay, And specifically, I'm trying to figure 174 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: out what story I'm going to sit down and research 175 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: next week and then right the week after or. 176 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 2: Two weeks after, I should say. 177 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:54,719 Speaker 1: That's all happening in the exclusive section of this year 178 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: after Party. Go to Disgrace sampod dot com to sign 179 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 1: up and get exclusive content, behind the scenes content like this, 180 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: plus add free listening on everything we do here, all 181 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 1: right in your. 182 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 2: Feed right now. 183 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: We have our Happy Monday's episode coming up next right 184 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 1: after this after party, our two part Rewind episode from 185 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: our archive on the Notorious Big originally released in May 186 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty one. 187 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 2: This episode gets into who I believe murdered the hip 188 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 2: hop icon. 189 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 1: Now you're not gonna want to miss these episodes, all right, listen, 190 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: and you're gonna find out what Sugar Night's payroll, what 191 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:33,439 Speaker 1: a mysterious ninety five Chevy and Pala at a red 192 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: light next to Biggie Small's on the night he died, 193 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: and a cop who was connected to both Big and 194 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 1: pak all has to do with Biggie Small's death. Perhaps 195 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: Tubacs as well? 196 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 2: All right? 197 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: Then after the rewind, coming next Tuesday, our brand new 198 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: episode on Dolly Parton. Just a question, why can't female 199 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: global music starts just make music and not have to 200 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: deal with threats to their lives? That's the question I'm 201 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: asking it, all right. This story gets into those death threats, 202 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:05,559 Speaker 1: gets into the murder ballad that almost was Dolly Parton's career, 203 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: and it tells the story of one of the greatest 204 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:11,839 Speaker 1: comebacks ever. So when you're listening to the new Disgraceland 205 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 1: Dolly Parton episode, be thinking about artists like Dolly and 206 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: give us a call at six one seven nine oh 207 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: six six sixty three eight and let us know who 208 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: your favorite crossover artist is. Okay, Dolly Parton, She's thought 209 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: of as a country artist, but she has had massive 210 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: pop hits. 211 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 2: She's crossed over. Is the point? So which crossover artist 212 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 2: is your favorite? Or what's the best example of a great. 213 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: Crossover artist other than Dolly Parton from music history? Can 214 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: be from any genre, can be from country to pop 215 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: like Dolly Rapp, to rock like the Beasties. There's a 216 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: million examples. Who's the greatest artist to go from one 217 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: genre to the other? Let us know six one seven, 218 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: nine oh six sixty sixty three eight, voicemail and text. 219 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: You can email us at Disgrace lamp Pod at gmail 220 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 1: dot com or hit us on the socials at Disgrace 221 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: lampod and you might hear your answer on next week's 222 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: after party. 223 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 2: Our disc goes. 224 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 1: Your answers to last week's question of the week with 225 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,199 Speaker 1: your voicemails, your text, your DMS, your emails and more 226 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:27,199 Speaker 1: coming up right after this. All right, so you want 227 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: to be a rock and roll star, then listen now 228 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: here what I say. I'm in the phone booth, It's 229 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 1: the one across the hall discos. I'm hanging on the 230 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: telephone with you. Six one seven nine oh six six 231 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 1: six three eight. We asked two questions relative to our 232 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: disgrace lamd episode on Happy Mondays, what's the most rockstar 233 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:45,439 Speaker 1: that you've ever been and who's the most transgressive hedonistic 234 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:49,079 Speaker 1: Debaucher's wild, drugged out band of all time? Got a 235 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:52,439 Speaker 1: bunch of different answers, uh coming in and all from 236 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 1: all different ways. Want to go to Anita in the 237 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: five to one two. Here with her text, Jake, I 238 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: just finished the Happy Monday's episode fantastic job. 239 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 2: I loved it. 240 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: To answer your question this week, this is the most 241 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 1: rock star shit that has ever happened to me? Yes, 242 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: that is me on stage with the Damned. I was 243 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: tossed up on stage during their finale Anti Pope and 244 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: Dave grabbed a hold of me and we sang together. 245 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: Captain Sensible came over and draped his guitar over me and. 246 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 2: I closed the show. 247 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 1: I got a hug and a kiss from both Dave 248 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: and the Captain. Greatest night of my life. Rock a 249 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: rolla Anita in the five to one two, This is perfect. 250 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 2: I love it. Thank you very much. Delbert. 251 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: I got your voicemail and Delbert, you're too debauch, too 252 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 1: rock and roll for the airwaves, man, even for the rss. Okay, 253 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: can't get you in here too. 254 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 2: Just a little too much, my man, too much. I'm 255 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 2: glad to hear you're alive. I truly am. 256 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:55,679 Speaker 1: I'm happy to hear you made it and that you're 257 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 1: still kicking down there in Louisville, all right. Appreciate the message, though. 258 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 1: Let's check out this recommendation from the eighth eight. 259 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 3: Hey, it's Michael who from Bowling Green, Kentucky. I was 260 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 3: just wondering if you ever have our will or could 261 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 3: be planning on what would consider doing an episode of 262 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:17,559 Speaker 3: Craft the UK Punk Man and the nr CO punk 263 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 3: band Craft and Gee Voucher and all the different members 264 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 3: of Crafts and kind of the backstory and the connection 265 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 3: to Tumblewamba. I think that would be a really interesting 266 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 3: podcast to hear you do, because you're the best when 267 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 3: it comes to behind the scene rock and roll podcast stuff. 268 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 3: So thanks uh, looking forward to hearing it back. Appreciate it, 269 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 3: have a good one and keep up with the great work. 270 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 2: Michael. 271 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: Appreciate the call man, Thanks so much, great suggestion. Don't 272 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: have it on our list, It's now on the list. 273 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: Appreciate you, Crass. Appreciate all the discos sending in their recommendations. 274 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: We need them, man, keep them coming. Okay, let's go 275 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: to the four to one seven. 276 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 4: Great. 277 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 5: This is Josh from the four one seven Man. I 278 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 5: love your show. I was listening to your Sonic Youth 279 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 5: episode and you were talking about married couples in rock 280 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 5: and roll bands, and there's one that I don't think 281 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 5: you know about that you really should. One of my 282 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 5: favorite bands out there is called Shovels and Rope. They're 283 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 5: a married couple out of South Carolina. And not only 284 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 5: are they a married couple in rock and roll, they're 285 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 5: the only two people in the band, so everything you 286 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 5: hear is just the two people up on stage, and 287 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 5: they are magic on stage together. They got several albums 288 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 5: out I really think you should check them out. Maybe 289 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 5: do a show on them sometime. They're really they're a 290 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 5: great show. They're still touring around. Maybe catch a show 291 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 5: for them sometime. Again, Love your show, man, Take it easy. 292 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, Josh, amazing call. 293 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: Thanks so much, dude. I don't know Shovels and Rope. 294 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: I know the name, I've seen the names on festival 295 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: bills before. I know nothing about the band, and I 296 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: love this idea that married couples can make it in bands, 297 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: because it's an insane lifestyle in business to try to 298 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: just maintain a marriage, never mind romance. I mean maintaining 299 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: romance and marriage is hard over time anyways, and hearing 300 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: about when it works is inspiring in any world, really, 301 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: but especially in music for sure. And you know you 302 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: made me think when you mentioned shovels and rope, you 303 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: made me think of another one that you're probably hip two. 304 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: And I'm not even sure if this is accurate. But 305 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: Gillian Welch and Dave Rawlings, and is it Jillian or 306 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: Gillian by the way, I never fucking know. I apologize Gillian, Gillian. 307 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: I've heard of a million different ways. Same thing with 308 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: Gillian Flynn. Gillian Flynn, you know what I mean. It's 309 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: but whatever, you know what I'm saying. Gillian Welch and 310 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: David Rawlings. I believe they're married, and they're fucking great. 311 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 1: They are so good, they're so fantastic. Seen them live twice, 312 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: definitely once, no twice, and I particularly remember seeing them 313 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 1: the House of Blues in Boston right around the time 314 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: of that what's that record called what Time the Revelator? 315 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: Is it called Time the Revelator? That album there, fantastic 316 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 1: album whatever it's called. 317 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 2: You know what I'm talking about. 318 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: It's kind of just after they worked with Ryan Adams 319 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 1: on Heartbreaker, and I don't even think Helse of Blues 320 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: was House of Blues yet. I think it was still 321 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: called the Avalanche and they destroyed. They were so great. 322 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:27,679 Speaker 2: I think they're married. 323 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 1: If not, hey, good excuse for a recommendation there, Gillian Slash, 324 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: Jillian Watch and David Rowling. Someone please call me and 325 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 1: tell me how to pronounce her name and I'll apologize 326 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 1: to her when we get it right. Okay, six one seven, 327 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: nine of six, six sixty three eight. You want to 328 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: leave me a voicemail? You want to send me a text? 329 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 1: Onto the subject of Happy Mondays this week's full episode 330 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: of disgrace Land, we asked the question what's the most hedonistic, 331 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: debaucherous transgressive band from music history? And, oh boy, do 332 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: we get a lot of comments. I'm just going to 333 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 1: click through a bunch of the thez it from where 334 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 1: Instagram and it's I mean, this is great. This is 335 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 1: like fantastic, not just recommendations on what to listen to, 336 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: but recommendations on podcasts. We've done podcasts we can do. 337 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:15,120 Speaker 1: I'm going to click through a bunch of these because 338 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: this is a ton ef and good music rights MC five. 339 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 2: The White Panther Party. 340 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: Deserves its own one crazy Night style movie, absolutely does, 341 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: and we get into that in the MC five episode 342 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 1: a little bit. Jeff Baker eight three five up in 343 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 1: Boston says, hey might have to go with the Luvin Brothers. 344 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: Fantastic recommendation. And I know a little bit about the 345 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 1: Louvin's story. I need to know more about it. We 346 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: need to do an episode on them. Too Fast for Love, 347 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: Too Fast for Love images. Excuse me, just writes in 348 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: Wilson Phillips. They're kidding, can't ground visual? Hey, butthole Surfers 349 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: should be on this list. The new documentary on them 350 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: is amazing. I want to talk about that for a 351 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: second before I read the rest of that. I don't 352 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: know a lot about butthole surfers. I seen butthole surfers, 353 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,959 Speaker 1: I think twice. But anyways, Gibby came up a bunch 354 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:07,679 Speaker 1: in the John Fruchiante research that I just finished. I 355 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: just finished putting that episode together for you guys, and 356 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: complete and total psychopath and there's footage I saw them 357 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 1: on the Lallapaluza tour, the first one, and I remember 358 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: I think I remember hearing about I don't remember seeing it. 359 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: The shotgun on stage. There's footage of this online. You 360 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: can see Gibbey Haynes, some butthole surfers on stage at 361 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: Lollapalooza firing off. 362 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 2: A fucking shotgun on stage. What's that all about? You 363 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 2: get away with it? 364 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,360 Speaker 1: So I can't imagine what this documentary is. I don't 365 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 1: know what it is, but I need to get into it. 366 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 1: See Jewels, Rights and the Birthday Party. They were all 367 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,640 Speaker 1: wildly insand and made great music. Nick Cave was mild 368 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: compared to Tracy Pugh, the bass guitarist. The documentary, recently 369 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 1: released Mutiny in Heaven, captures the full story beautifully. A 370 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: definite must watch. I love this, Thank you, See Jewels. 371 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: I will absolutely watch this. I've been looking for an 372 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: angle into Nick kay for a while and this might 373 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 1: help me out. Thank you all right, This one is 374 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: the one I want to get to. Richie Underscore V 375 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: one two three Rights saying Hey Believe it or not? 376 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: Country star Johnny Rodriguez, his piano player slash tour manager 377 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,120 Speaker 1: was a regular guy at my bar, and the stories 378 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: that that guy told me, if even half of them 379 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: were true, Johnny belongs on the list. And I wrote that, really, 380 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: I wonder what stories there are. I give us a taste. 381 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: And someone named Scott underscore Ward wrote, Johnny did jail 382 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 1: time for stealing a go. 383 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 2: I don't know what that's. 384 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 1: About, but I think there's murder connected to this story. 385 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 1: And you know, there's a bunch of other mentions here 386 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:46,640 Speaker 1: though the gig allens the Norwegian black metal, whole bunch 387 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: of stuff, weird spring rites in any band involved in 388 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 1: the Boston hardcore scene in the early odds. I'm not 389 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: touching that. I like being on this side of the ground. Tsol. 390 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:03,160 Speaker 1: Now that's funny. That's not funny. That's actually really interesting 391 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 1: to me. 392 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 2: Jack in that. 393 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 1: Whole scene, great great answers, guys, appreciate it. Thank you. 394 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 1: That's over at Graceland Pod on Instagram. Get in the 395 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: conversation there if you want. You can also, if you 396 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,959 Speaker 1: wanted more direct line six one seven nine six six 397 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 1: six three eight, voicemail and text. The way to jump 398 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 1: in the conversation with myself and the rest of the 399 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:25,360 Speaker 1: discos is over on Patreon. In the chat, Eric, I'm 400 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: happy to see that the ac DC show you went 401 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,719 Speaker 1: to was incredible and happy to see you wearing your 402 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: disgrace Land hat. Thank you very much, pretty badass out 403 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 1: in Charlotte, North Carolina. Also happy to see the Kimberly 404 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,679 Speaker 1: Whitehead has rejoined us. Thank you, Kimberly, we missed you. 405 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 1: Also like to welcome Katie Crook to the Patreon. Katie 406 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: is our most recent All Access member. Katie, get in here, 407 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 1: get in the chat. Introduce yourself, Ryan. 408 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:50,719 Speaker 2: Elle, I see you. 409 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: I see you in the comments on the Happy Monday's episode. 410 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: Thanks my man, Happy you enjoyed it. Appreciate you. You 411 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 1: guys want to become All Access members. You want a 412 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: deeper conversation with us and the rest of your Disgraceland 413 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: fellow listeners. Disgrace lampod at gmail dot com to sign up. 414 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 1: All right, so where are we here? Six one seven 415 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: nine oh six six six three eight voicemail and text. 416 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:14,439 Speaker 1: You want to get at us with the answer to 417 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: the question of the week next week, which is gonna 418 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: be who's. 419 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 2: Your favorite crossover artists? 420 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 1: Is at Dolly Parton Going from Joe Len to nine 421 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 1: to five Ray, Charles. 422 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 2: Beastie Boys like I said. 423 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: This is so many examples Hit us up six one 424 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: seven nine oh six six six three eight, voicemail and 425 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 1: text at Disgraceslampod on the socials Disgraceslampod at gmail dot 426 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 1: com if you want to email me, or you can 427 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 1: jump in the Patreon chat and you can sign up 428 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 1: at disgracelampod dot com to do that all right. On 429 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:46,120 Speaker 1: the subject of Happy Mondays, there are many musicians, many 430 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 1: actors who have run for office Sonny Bono, jellybiaffro Arnold Schwarzenegger, 431 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: Ronald Reagan, but not many have created their own political party. 432 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:02,439 Speaker 1: In twenty fourteen, Mark also known as Bez from Happy 433 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: Mondays founded the We Are the Reality Party. But Bez 434 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: he's not your usual musician. Okay, he doesn't write songs, 435 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: he doesn't play any traditional instruments. But what he does 436 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,400 Speaker 1: do is play the Moroccos along with his signature quote 437 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 1: unquote freaky dancing in England's most hedonistic and transgressive band ever, 438 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 1: Happy Mondays. So when his party ran for seats in 439 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: three English constituencies, people were amused and despite running on 440 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 1: a platform of free energy, free food and free anything. 441 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: Bez in his platform. His party here only received seven 442 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,360 Speaker 1: hundred and three votes. Okay, Bez is not the usual musician, 443 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: that's the point. And he definitely was not the usual politician. 444 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 1: He's Bez from the Happy Mondays. And if you want 445 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: to hear more about that, you got to check out 446 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 1: the latest episode of Disgrace Sam Don't Go Anywhere discos. 447 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,400 Speaker 1: We'll be back right after this, a few emails and more. 448 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 2: All right, we are back, guys. 449 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 1: Thanks for hanging in there with us. I don't know 450 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 1: what I've come down with here, but it's coming fast. 451 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 5: Man. 452 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:13,959 Speaker 2: It sucks because you know, I want to watch that 453 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 2: game today. 454 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 1: I'm still gonna watch it. I'm gonna play hurt. Okay, 455 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 1: nothing's gonna keep me off the pitch, That's what I'm saying. 456 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 1: Disgraceing Pod at gmail dot com. You guys want to 457 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 1: email me on any subject at all, that's how you 458 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 1: do it. This one comes from Jeremy Stein subject wildest 459 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,439 Speaker 1: thing seen at a show back in nineteen ninety one. 460 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: I was at a Fishbone Primus show in Toronto and 461 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: in the middle of one of the songs, Angelo, the 462 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 1: lead of Fishbone, climbed up the speaker stack to the 463 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 1: balcony while singing, worked his way to the back of 464 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,679 Speaker 1: the theater, stood on the edge of the balcony and 465 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: dropped off. 466 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 2: Knowing, of course, hit his fans would catch him. 467 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 1: As a twenty year old, this blew my skull that 468 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: someone would do this. 469 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 2: Fast forward to. 470 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:02,439 Speaker 1: About five years ago, Fishbone came around again, and this 471 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 1: time there are may be twenty dudes in the crowd, 472 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 1: and all of them were in their forties. 473 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 2: Sure enough, in the middle of a. 474 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 1: Song, Angel did the same thing, dove into the crowd, 475 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: knowing that this fans would catch him. 476 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 2: And they did. 477 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: Even though my back hurt for a week, it was 478 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: still worth it. Jeremy, I hope you're back. It's okay. 479 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: First and foremost. Second, I admire your commitment to Fishbone, 480 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 1: great band, Truth and Soul, which is one of the 481 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: greatest albums it start to finish, no skips, incredible. That 482 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:38,199 Speaker 1: album doesn't get enough enough talkie talk. All right, what 483 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 1: are you guys watching? I am almost all caught up, 484 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: No I am, I'm all caught up with Cape Fear 485 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 1: and I am loving it. Zeth Lundy, you don't know 486 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 1: what the fuck you're talking about. Zeth doesn't like this show. 487 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,400 Speaker 1: It's great. You know, it's not you know, au tour cinema. 488 00:25:55,760 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: But it's great television, scary, actually scared, and I'm digging it, 489 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 1: so I'm almost done there. I'm also loving Sugar. I 490 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,160 Speaker 1: think I talked to you guys about Sugar last week. 491 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 1: I can't remember. Sugar's great as well. Get a new 492 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,120 Speaker 1: episode to watch tonight if I can make it that far, 493 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: and then, of course I'm watching everything Zeth Lundy tells 494 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: me to watch in the hollywood Land screening room. If 495 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: you don't know about the Hollywoodland screening Room, it's Zeth's 496 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: episode in the hollywood Land Feed on Fridays where he 497 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 1: tease up a film that we watch over the weekend 498 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: required viewing, and then we come back and we talk 499 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:28,919 Speaker 1: about it. 500 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 2: A week after. 501 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 1: Clinton Reese on Patreon says, Hey, I've been in the 502 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: habit lately of pausing the screening room during the playlist 503 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 1: segment and going to listen to the songs the good 504 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,400 Speaker 1: Doctor that seth puts me onto from his list, And. 505 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 2: I heard that Arim song before. I just never learned 506 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 2: what the hell the title was. Thank you Jeth. 507 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 1: See, I'm not going to tell you what the title 508 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: of that song is here. You're gonna have to go 509 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: to the screening room and check that out. Point is, 510 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 1: we're learning stuff together in the screening room, not just 511 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 1: about music, but not just about movies, but about. 512 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 2: The music in the movies as well. 513 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,640 Speaker 1: Okay, and we get to our recommendations, my music recommendations 514 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,679 Speaker 1: jumping off of our movie conversation that happens in the 515 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 1: Hollywood Land rap party every week. We had a great 516 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:17,399 Speaker 1: one this week. We were discussing songs about fashion. Okay, 517 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: this stems from our Gianni Versaci episode and I went 518 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 1: deep into some wormholes here and pulled out some choice 519 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 1: nugs that you're likely not going to get anywhere else. 520 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 1: And I can't wait for you to hear this. Go 521 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: to Hollywood Land and subscribe on the iHeartRadio, ap Apple 522 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:36,160 Speaker 1: Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. You get three 523 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:37,959 Speaker 1: episodes a week over there. Two of them are new, 524 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 1: one of them's an archive, plenty of content. Great conversation 525 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 1: with Zazi as a master. Make sure you're checking that out. 526 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 1: Zeth and I also talk once a month for now anyways, 527 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:51,159 Speaker 1: once a month about our favorite music from our favorite movies. 528 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 1: It's our music in Film video podcast called this film 529 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 1: should be Played Loud, and we just we got a 530 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:03,679 Speaker 1: new one coming next week right or at the end 531 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,479 Speaker 1: of the month whenever that is on Do the Right Thing. 532 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 1: And I just I just watched the cut this morning. 533 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 1: It's the by far the best one we've done yet. 534 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 1: It's so good. It's it's a movie that we clearly 535 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,640 Speaker 1: both love. The music in this movie is about as 536 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 1: impactful as music in a movie can get. Spike Lee 537 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 1: does things in a way that other filmmakers do not 538 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: when it comes to music. So it kicked off a 539 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,959 Speaker 1: great conversation. And just you know, sweet Dick Willie Man, 540 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 1: Sweet Dick Willy is a poet and he needs to 541 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 1: be celebrated as much as possible in culture. And I 542 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: don't think that sweet Dick Willy has gotten enough of 543 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: a shake, if you know what I'm saying. And we 544 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 1: give all the shakes to sweet Dick Willie in this 545 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 1: film should be played loud, Matt, give us a little, 546 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 1: give us a little taste. 547 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 2: Will all the sort of like. 548 00:28:55,280 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 1: Hammon and Hahn over the influence of Public Enemy on 549 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: White America and whatever you know. 550 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 4: What I mean, like we were what they were worried about, 551 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 4: you know, like we were the kids in suburbia that 552 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 4: we're hearing this shit, you know, and and it really 553 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 4: it really changed me. It literally forced me to seek 554 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 4: out Malcolm X and to read his autobiography and it 555 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 4: forced me to really I mean that. 556 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 2: Video was like it was chilling. Oh the video that's 557 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 2: intrinsically galvanized. 558 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 5: I hate it. 559 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 2: It's intrinsically involved with this film, right, and the whole 560 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 2: thing together was just like it was like a wake 561 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 2: up call that summer. You know, I say summer. 562 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 1: I feel like I watched it during the summer because 563 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 1: summer is such the theme of the movie and the 564 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 1: song and the video. 565 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I do remember. 566 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 1: I remember hanging up on High Street and clinting with 567 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 1: my friends and you know, looking for a buyer and 568 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 1: listening to the song when it came out on a 569 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: boom box and like just it was constantly being played. 570 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 2: It was it was a big part of our little zeitgeist. 571 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 6: Was this was my intro to like hip hop, to 572 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 6: like real hip hop, you know, like not no shade 573 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 6: to like tone logo or anything. But like, you know 574 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 6: what I mean and unlike you. I wasn't really familiar 575 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 6: with Public Enemy until this song happened. And this song 576 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 6: just like grabbed me and would not let go. And 577 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 6: and like I said, this was where I was like, shit, 578 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 6: this music is electric, you know, and I need to 579 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 6: hear more of it. 580 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's it's my favorite Public Enemy recording. It is, 581 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 2: It is everything, and I. 582 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 1: Don't know much of I know, I don't know much 583 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: about the recording, but I know, you know, it's post 584 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 1: Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back, which is their 585 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 1: classic album, right, that's the one that people consider like 586 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 1: their kind of masterpiece. 587 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 2: This comes out after it, right now, but it comes 588 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 2: out as a single right first. 589 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 6: Right, Well, it was conceived for this movie and it 590 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 6: might be the single greatest moment and recorded music history 591 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 6: where they had the explicit instructions where Spike Lee was like, 592 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 6: you need to make the anthem of the summer. I 593 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 6: need the biggest fucking song that's gonna speak to this 594 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 6: movie and speak to the culture and everything. 595 00:30:58,800 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 596 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 6: And they came through on this challenge, you know. I 597 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 6: think Hank Shockley talked about how we wanted to make 598 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 6: it sound like the streets of New York sounded at 599 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 6: the time. 600 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 2: Oh he fucking killed it. 601 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: And all right, that is a preview of our do 602 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: the Right Thing episode from this film should be played loud. 603 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 1: That's coming up end of this month. Go to this 604 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:21,959 Speaker 1: grace sampod dot com to sign up to be an 605 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 1: all access member so you can you can gain access 606 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 1: to this film should be played loud over on Patreon. 607 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 1: Next we we've already done the next months. Next month 608 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 1: is gonna be on Licorice Pizza, and then we need 609 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 1: your help figuring out what we're doing beyond that. We'll 610 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 1: get into the Patreon chat with all you and we'll 611 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 1: do that together. Okay, speaking of exclusive content, speaking to Zeth, 612 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 1: we're talking about a lot of stuff in the exclusive 613 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 1: section of this after party coming up right after this 614 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 1: we get into the World Cup. I don't even remember 615 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 1: what the point of our conversation was, but we just 616 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 1: kind of fell into this conversation, a real kind of 617 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 1: behind the scenes thing about what we're writing, what's coming 618 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 1: up next, what we should be doing next, based in 619 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 1: part on your recommendations, and we thought you guys would 620 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 1: like it. 621 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 2: Bring you into the conversation. Get in here with us. 622 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 2: That's coming up for all Access members right now. All right, 623 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 2: we'll be back after this. All right, we're back. We're 624 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 2: ready to split. 625 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 1: Before we do, just want to say that we mentioned Oasis, 626 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 1: we mentioned Tupac among others in this episode, and of 627 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 1: course we have episodes on those artists, stories about those 628 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: artists in our archive of over two hundred and I 629 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 1: don't know seventy artists at this point. Matt's going to 630 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 1: grab that episode info on those subjects and put them 631 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 1: in the show notes here so you. 632 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 2: Can easily navigate your way to those stories. Let's recap, 633 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 2: shall we. 634 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 1: Number one this week our new episode on Happy Mondays 635 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 1: that's available for you to check out right now. 636 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 2: Number two in the rewind slot this weekend. 637 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: Our classic two part art episode on the iconic notorious 638 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 1: Big Number three. Next week coming up, our new episode 639 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 1: on Dolly parton. Number four, Zeth gives you those Hollywood 640 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 1: and crime vibes in Hollywood Lands, so make sure you 641 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 1: are subscribed, and I give you my music recommendations in 642 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: the rap party over there in that feed. 643 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 2: Number five. Currently, this film should be played loud. The 644 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 2: video podcast episode. 645 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 1: On Dazed and Confused is available right now in Our 646 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 1: next episode on do the Right Thing is coming July 647 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 1: twenty ninth. 648 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 2: That's what it is. July twenty ninth. 649 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: Go to Disgrace sampod dot com to sign up to 650 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 1: become an all Access member and unlock exclusive content just 651 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 1: like this, along with ad free listening. Six one seven, 652 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 1: nine oh six six sixty three eight. Your voice keeps 653 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 1: us digging into the dark corners of music history, So 654 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 1: keep calling, texting with your answers to this week's question 655 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 1: of the week, or with. 656 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 2: Whatever else you want to talk about. Number seven. Don't 657 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 2: forget discos. This isn't just content. 658 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: It's a community, a community of the obsessed, and no 659 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 1: one cares about music, books, records in the crime and 660 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:58,480 Speaker 1: grime that ties them all together like you do. 661 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 2: And that's a discord, all right. 662 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 1: Back on January seventeenth, nineteen ninety two, Happy Mondays landed 663 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 1: in Barbados and all hell broke loose, and this is 664 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 1: what America. 665 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 2: Was listening to on that day. 666 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 1: According to the Billboard Charts, Number one End of the 667 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 1: Road from Boomerang Boys to Men last week one peak 668 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 1: position one weeks on chart nine. 669 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,359 Speaker 2: Number two Baby Baby Baby. 670 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:29,360 Speaker 1: TLC last week's two peak position number two weeks on 671 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: fifteen and number three Humping around Bobby Brown last week. 672 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 1: Vogue Peak position three weeks on Day six, number four 673 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 1: November Ring Guns and Roses last. 674 00:34:44,360 --> 00:35:04,479 Speaker 2: Week three weeks peap position three weeks on show. Quit 675 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:06,720 Speaker 2: talking and start mixing.