1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,279 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Carly and this is Dakota, your favorite 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: Okay Storytime hosts, and we've got some great stories coming up. 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:08,479 Speaker 2: But before that, we have a quick two minute break 4 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 2: from the sponsors that keep the show alive. 5 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 3: My brother's new girlfriend lost it because someone else ordered 6 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 3: the meals she wanted. 7 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 4: Oh I'm sorry. They only make one thing for one person. 8 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:23,799 Speaker 3: I don't even understand why this is an issue, but 9 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 3: the drama and the fallout is getting to me and 10 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 3: I'm tired of hearing about it. By the way, this 11 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 3: comes from Okay Lobster sixteen ninety two, and if you 12 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 3: want to asmit your own stories, go to the r slush. 13 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 3: Okay Storytime severed it. I'm Sophia, I'm Savannah, I'm Carly, 14 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 3: and we're here to give good advice scoofy, but we 15 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,239 Speaker 3: don't have all the answers. We only know what we'd do, 16 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 3: So let us know what you would do in the comments. 17 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 3: And Opie says my thirty two male younger brother Dave 18 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 3: thirty one male, has a new girlfriend, Rachel thirty's female. 19 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:55,279 Speaker 3: My parents fifty four male and female, already met her 20 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 3: once and they said they would take everyone out for 21 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 3: dinner so she could meet the rest of us. Myself 22 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 3: and my older brother, Steve thirty three mail. We didn't 23 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 3: go anywhere expensive. My parents just took us to Canadian 24 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 3: brew House. At first, everything was fine, but then it 25 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,320 Speaker 3: got weird when it came time for us to order. 26 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 3: After Steve gave his order mac and cheese, Rachel said, but. 27 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 4: I was going to order that you can. 28 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 3: We were all confused because no one said Rachel couldn't 29 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 3: also order the mac and cheese. Our server was confused too, 30 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 3: and told Rachel the kitchen. 31 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 4: Wasn't sold out of mac and cheese. 32 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 3: But Rachel said she needed another minute with the menu. 33 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,759 Speaker 3: She asked Steve twice before the server came back if 34 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 3: he was sure about his order. She ended up ordering 35 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 3: something different, but for the rest of the night she 36 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 3: kept talking about how she wanted was the mac and cheese. 37 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:45,119 Speaker 4: It was really weird. 38 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 3: Dave is mad at Steve for not ordering something else 39 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 3: to accommodate Rachel, and at the rest of us for 40 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 3: not defending her. 41 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 4: Defending her over what you two can both get that 42 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 4: same dish. I'm confused. Did she never learn how to share? 43 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 4: And she's not even sharing her food I'm. 44 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 2: Confused if she was like trying to plan, like they'd 45 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 2: each order something and then share it. I have no idea, 46 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 2: because that's the only way that it makes sense to 47 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 2: not order the same thing, and. 48 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,399 Speaker 4: That's just order the same thing. That's what you want, 49 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 4: Just get it to you and another person might want 50 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 4: you might just be like, I'm also in the mood 51 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 4: for mac and cheese. Boom. 52 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 3: I don't even know what he means by that. The 53 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,839 Speaker 3: rest of the dinner was so awkward because Rachel kept 54 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 3: talking about wanting the mac and cheese. 55 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 4: Oh my god, girl, give it up. 56 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 3: My parents picked the restaurant because Dave said Rachel had 57 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 3: been there before and liked the food. 58 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 4: It was so weird. 59 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 3: My dad and I both ordered the same sandwich with 60 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 3: the side salad, and there was no problem with us 61 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 3: eating the exact same thing, even though Rachel asked us 62 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 3: twice if one of us wanted to change or order. 63 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 3: Is this some sort of like no divergencies? 64 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 4: Goodoo, Yeah, that's I mean, that's the only explanation I 65 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 4: would yeah, like take, because why else would she be 66 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 4: really weird about people? Just I want her to go 67 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 4: somewhere where it's like there's only two different meals, and 68 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 4: then she's like, no one else can have the steak, 69 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 4: You guys can all take the chicken. What does she 70 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 4: do on airplanes? 71 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I honestly don't get what the issue was or 72 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 3: why she was so upset about Steve for ordering the 73 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 3: same things she wanted. I know this is a small 74 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 3: thing compared to some of the things that get posted here, 75 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 3: but I'm tired of Dave being upset and causing drama 76 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 3: over this. He wants Steve to apologize to his girlfriend, 77 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 3: but obviously Steve says he didn't do anything wrong. I 78 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:32,839 Speaker 3: just need an event about how I'm sick of Dave 79 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 3: making a big deal about this and bothering me and 80 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 3: everyone else about how hurt Rachel is. I don't even 81 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 3: get why it's a problem. Rachel gave no explanation, and 82 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 3: neither has Dave and comments. Mapauline says, Rachel sounds exhausting. 83 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 3: Opie says she is. When Dave first started mentioning her, 84 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 3: everyone was happy for him. Steve and I were excited 85 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 3: because we both served in the Armed Forces and found 86 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 3: out she did as well, and we thought we would 87 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 3: have lots in com with her. But now all this 88 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 3: has soured me on her. Steve can barely stand to 89 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 3: be around her after how she and Dave acted hungary. 90 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 3: Breadfruit says she's served. Opie says, yes, she served in 91 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 3: the RCAF, different branch than either Steve and Iren. 92 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 4: But we still thought we would have lots in common 93 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 4: with her. Well wait, was she the only one serving? 94 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, other people's also, was anyone else in that group? 95 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 3: Douc Wedding says, does she try to sample what everyone 96 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 3: else ordered? Either way, other people's food orders are not 97 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 3: her business. 98 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 4: Oh Pie says no. 99 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 3: As I mentioned in my post, the restaurant we had 100 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 3: gone to are not the kind where everyone orders for 101 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 3: the table and chairs. Everyone orders their own separate meal, 102 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 3: and no one would share it, especially with someone they 103 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 3: barely know. Missus Peanut Butter says, only thing I can't 104 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 3: imagine is that it's some kind of OCD. But whatever 105 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 3: it is, it's her responsibility to manage. It's absolutely wild 106 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,479 Speaker 3: that they won't explain and just seem to expect you 107 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 3: all to know what a grave sins Steve committed out 108 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 3: of cre curiosity. Did she react at all to you 109 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 3: and your dad eating the same thing at the restaurant, 110 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 3: like keep glancing over or seem uncomfortable or anything. 111 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 4: I mean, we already know that. She asked them if 112 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 4: they were gonna do Wait, are you sure you guys 113 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 4: want to eat the same thing. She's like, ooh, that's 114 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 4: not a good sign. The f guy's gotta break down 115 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 4: the door. Everyone's gonna get arrested. Oh, pisas. 116 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, she asked both of us if we were sure 117 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 3: that we didn't want to order something else twice. She 118 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 3: brought it up multiple times once the food came. She 119 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,239 Speaker 3: doesn't like it when anyone orders the same meal, even 120 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 3: if it is other people. It's so bizarre. And we 121 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 3: have an update seven months later. Any thoughts, I mean, 122 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 3: this girl, I don't know what's wrong. There has to 123 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 3: be some underlying thing that no one's mentioning, because this 124 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 3: makes absolutely no sense to a normal, sane person. So yeah, 125 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 3: I do think like if she did have OCD or 126 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 3: something else, it would be so easy for them to say, oh, hey, 127 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 3: you know, girlfriend, Rachel just has this quirk. If you 128 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 3: could accommodate it in a like saying that in advance. 129 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 4: Yeah. Also, I don't think that, like it's the family's 130 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 4: duty to appease this girl, no, especially with absolutely no communication. Yeah, 131 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 4: and no explanation either. 132 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. 133 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 4: Bo, We've got an update seven months later. 134 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 3: It's not a long update or exciting story, but the 135 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 3: update is that I will no longer go to restaurants 136 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 3: if Rachel is gonna be there. 137 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 4: She doesn't get upset if. 138 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 3: We're having dinner at someone's home and everyone is eating 139 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 3: the same thing. My parents met her once before the incident. 140 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 3: In my first post, they made lasagna for dinner, and 141 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 3: Rachel didn't say a thing about everyone getting a piece 142 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 3: of lasagna from the same pan. She ate it without complaining. 143 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 3: Rachel only gets weird and upset if we're at a 144 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 3: restaurant or getting takeout, not if it's a home cooked 145 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 3: meal at someone's home. After the first incident, the one 146 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 3: I mentioned in my first post, Dave was insistent that 147 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 3: Steve apologized to Rachel and make amends, even though Steve 148 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 3: didn't do anything wrong. Dave always defends Rachel when she 149 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 3: acts weird about this. I get that you're supposed to 150 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 3: be on the same team as whoever you're dating, but 151 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 3: Dave refuses to see that Rachel isn't the wrong and 152 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 3: I'm not the only one who's tired of it. The 153 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 3: last draw for me was at my cousin's sixteenth birthday. 154 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 3: Rachel got upset because my cousin ordered the meal that 155 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 3: she wanted, and she tried to get my cousin to 156 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 3: change his mind. My aunt and my uncle were not happy, 157 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 3: and they really don't like Rachel. Now, no one knows 158 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 3: what her problem is. She just says she doesn't like 159 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 3: it when people order the same thing and won't explain more. 160 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 3: She even asks other people who order the same meal 161 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 3: if one of them wants to change their order. I 162 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 3: don't understand why this bothers her so much, but I 163 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 3: just won't go to restaurants if she's there now, because 164 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 3: she makes such a big deal about it and you 165 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 3: can't even enjoy yourself. I'm not the only one who 166 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 3: avoids her either. Successful Witch says, did anyone ask her 167 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 3: why she didn't order the mac and cheese? Opie says, 168 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 3: she just said it was because someone already ordered it. 169 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 3: She didn't elaborate or explain when asked. She was asked 170 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 3: at least once to elaborate before the server returned to 171 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 3: finished taking our orders or the rest of the dinner. 172 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 3: We kept trying to change the topic whenever she brought 173 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 3: up the mac and cheese because it was so awkward. Now, 174 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 3: Dave won't give an explanation when anyone asks why this 175 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 3: caused such a problem for Rachel, even if he gets 176 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 3: asked why. I honestly have no idea why this became 177 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 3: such a big issue. My dad and I both ate 178 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 3: the exact same thing, and everything's fine, op to a 179 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 3: long thread. If Dave and Rachel didn't want to order 180 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 3: the same thing so they could share it, it wouldn't 181 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 3: be weird, same for my parents. It was weird because 182 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 3: Rachel didn't want to order the same food as her 183 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 3: boyfriend's brother, someone who would not be sharing with her. 184 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 3: Even if two people in a relationship wanted to share 185 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 3: their meals with each other, the restaurant we were at 186 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 3: wasn't the kind where people normally share. Each person got 187 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 3: their own separate meal. Rachel and Steve are not dating 188 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 3: and I'd just met each other for the first time. 189 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 3: It was also weird because Rachel asked slash hinted that 190 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 3: Steve should change his order and wouldn't stop talking about 191 00:08:58,240 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 3: it for the rest of the night. 192 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 4: I just don't understand what the issue is. Like, there 193 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,199 Speaker 4: has to be like, you know, I just want to 194 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 4: reason an explanation as to what is going on, Like 195 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 4: you don't need to go too far into detail if 196 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 4: you don't feel comfortable, but just be like, you know, 197 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 4: you could even just say, oh, it's just something that I, 198 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 4: you know, feel uncomfortable with. But they're not even saying that. Yeah, 199 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 4: just like just no one gets an explanation, and it's 200 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 4: just like, just don't order the same thing because I 201 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 4: want that. You can't have it because I want it. 202 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 3: Not Actually that's actually also the end of the story 203 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 3: because everything was dis repeating. It was just that the 204 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 3: comments were all saying the same thing. 205 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 4: There's just no explanation. We just don't know why. We'll 206 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 4: never know why. 207 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 3: That's the worst, Okay, but I think Gop was mad 208 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 3: made the right decision and just saying, you know what, 209 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 3: just not going to go to restaurants with her anymore. 210 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, if that's the thing that's bothering everyone, 211 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 4: But that's just like annoying that every single person, including 212 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 4: the waiter, was like, yeah, we're not out of it. Actually, 213 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 4: if you also want it, no, no, no, just like 214 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 4: I want it, but I don't want it. If someone 215 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 4: else is thinking about eating it, I will not even 216 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 4: touch it. 217 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 3: She's like, I'm doing you, guys a favor. The people 218 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 3: next to you have the same Why would you tell 219 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 3: me about. 220 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 4: It's like an ratitude when they're like, oh, do you 221 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:12,319 Speaker 4: want something else? 222 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 5: We want? 223 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 4: We want something new, we want something off the menu. 224 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 2: And that's the end of this story. We're gonna go 225 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 2: to the next one. 226 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 4: I bought a camera to shoot my brother's wedding for free. 227 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 4: Now he refuses to pay me back for what My 228 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 4: brother and my now sister in law got married back 229 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 4: in October. My spouse and I agreed to help them 230 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,719 Speaker 4: out by being the photographers for this wedding as long 231 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 4: as they paid for the camera required to do the 232 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 4: work back in July for the camera, yes, three months 233 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 4: before the wedding. We asked what their budget was for 234 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 4: the camera, as we had the extra cash to purchase 235 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 4: it in advance, and they told us no more than 236 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 4: six hundred dollars. So we went to the store and 237 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 4: found an open box deal for a camera at five 238 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 4: fifty plus tax. By the way, hey, this comes from 239 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 4: Risky one Delta twenty five and if you want to 240 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 4: spit your own stories, go to the r slash Okay 241 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 4: storytime Separate and I'm Savannah, I'm Sophia, I'm Carly, and 242 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 4: we are here to give some good advice on little 243 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 4: Goofy Way. But we don't have all the answers. You 244 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 4: only tell you what we would do. We usual let 245 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 4: us know what you would do down in the comments. 246 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 4: As Opie says, we confirmed the price point again via 247 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 4: phone call and then bought the camera. We were told 248 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,319 Speaker 4: they would pay us back for the camera before the 249 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 4: end of October. After a little while, my sister in 250 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 4: law and brother called me and asked if I can 251 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 4: ordain their wedding as they had a fight with the 252 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,199 Speaker 4: cousin who initially was going to and wanted to change ministers, 253 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 4: and I am an ordained minister. I agreed to do 254 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 4: such and agreed not to charge them as a gift 255 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 4: to them. I was later also called a clown for 256 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 4: my hair color and told I needed to diet back 257 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 4: to natural colors and get it cut because her mom 258 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 4: did not approve of my hair, as well as being 259 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 4: told I needed to wear a suit since I was 260 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 4: assigned mail at birth. In my spouse wear a dress. 261 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 4: I would I would have to cover these expenses. 262 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 3: What if you were not if you don't identify it 263 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:05,439 Speaker 3: as a male and you want to wear a dress, you. 264 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 4: Should wear a dress. Yep, you should be able to 265 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 4: do that. 266 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 3: And genuinely, if they were like, oh well, we just 267 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 3: we need you to do this and this and change 268 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 3: like who you are and also pretend to be something 269 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 3: that you're not, I'm not going to be doing photography 270 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 3: for free. 271 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, I don't like it. But luckily my family 272 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 4: stood up for me and threatened to cancel over it. 273 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 4: Given they covered a fair portion of the wedding expenses, 274 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 4: but that's regardless to me. The wedding day comes and goes, 275 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 4: and my spouse and I do the job as well 276 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 4: as a boudoir session as an extra gift. One issue, 277 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 4: we have not received any payment for the camera. We 278 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 4: were also not informed of the wedding dates and rehearsal 279 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 4: times until less than a month out, on top of 280 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:49,679 Speaker 4: several other issues throughout the process. Their wedding wasn't mid October, 281 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 4: so I didn't say anything, assuming they would have the 282 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,439 Speaker 4: money to us soon. But after a week or two 283 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 4: we are contacted and told they didn't have the full 284 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 4: amount and would have to pay us in installments of 285 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 4: twenty every week or every other week, as well as 286 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 4: being told that she was pregnant. Oh lord. She initially 287 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 4: sent us two payments of twenty dollars and then has 288 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 4: sent nothing that says, so we got forty dollars of 289 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 4: the five hundred dollars five hundred and fifty okay, so 290 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 4: we still have five hundred and ten left. 291 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 3: Nice just for future reference. When someone says, oh, can 292 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 3: you buy this for me, they send. 293 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 4: You the money first, and then we buy it with 294 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 4: that money, yes, or just take their car be You're like, yeah, 295 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 4: I'll take your car and bring it back. 296 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:32,679 Speaker 1: You go buy. 297 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 4: We had left the camera with my father after the 298 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 4: wedding as we were going out of town very quickly 299 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 4: after the wedding and things were hectic. It stayed with 300 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 4: my father until this past week, where we got it 301 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 4: back from him after he moved. I was not concerned 302 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 4: with retrieving the camera and photos as we had not 303 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 4: been paid even half of what is owed. They are 304 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:52,839 Speaker 4: now saying they only agreed to a three hundred dollars 305 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 4: camera and only agreed to pay for half of the 306 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 4: camera one hundred and fifty dollars and that we need 307 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 4: to give them the photos and that they will sue 308 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 4: us if we don't. How are you gonna sue us 309 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 4: for that? How am I the a hole for refusing 310 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 4: the photos since they have not met their end of 311 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:09,199 Speaker 4: the deal. 312 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 3: No, you're not gonna get that money if you do 313 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 3: give them the photos. This is your only leverage. 314 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 4: Yeah. Literally, I was gonna say, this is your only 315 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 4: only leverage against them because you don't like give the money. 316 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 4: Give me my money. It's very easy. It's very easy. Yeah. 317 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 3: And if they really want the photos that bad, then 318 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 3: make them sign some sort of contract that says you're 319 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 3: gonna pay me back. Yeah, and then I'm gonna sue 320 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 3: you if you don't deal with it. 321 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 4: I miscilla. Do they have the text? 322 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: Yeah? 323 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, they have to. I'm sure they would have to 324 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 4: have some sort of trail. Yeah. There's an edit here. 325 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 4: Thanks to everyone for the responses. So general update and 326 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 4: clearing up of things. My spouse was the one doing 327 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 4: any photography outside of one or so hours on wedding 328 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 4: day for them to rest. I also remember they did 329 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 4: photos at the bridal shower too, which only adds to 330 00:14:58,960 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 4: the cost of the whole fair. 331 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 3: Oh boy, I don't give them the photos. Don't give 332 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 3: them the photos. That's my final thought. 333 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't have to. And like you could just 334 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 4: refer be like refer back to you know what you 335 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 4: said before. Yeah, like you said six hundred dollars was 336 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 4: the limit. We went five point fifty, even got you 337 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 4: a deal. Yeah, you're welcome, took all your photos, and 338 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 4: now you're like, yeah, give us our photos and we're 339 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 4: going to give you one hundred and fifty. That's not 340 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 4: even half of what you paid for it, yeah, or 341 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 4: what you even prescussed. So yeah, nope, Now, sir, my 342 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 4: spouse gave them the options to pay the full amount 343 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 4: by January thirty first, or to be polite as this 344 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 4: is my family, to pay us over the course of 345 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 4: the next couple of weeks. Given their supposed struggles financially, 346 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 4: they have continued to buckle down and hold their ground 347 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 4: and have now brought my name properly into the situation 348 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 4: and said they would pay my grandfather the money in 349 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 4: place of my spouse because I owe my grandfather for 350 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 4: my car. Wait, give me the money. Yeah what they now, 351 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 4: it's like you just don't want to give them the 352 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 4: money specifically, but you're still gonna pay the amount but 353 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 4: give it to someone else. Ridiculous Give me the money? 354 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 4: Come on, Yeah, my spouse and I have separated financials 355 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 4: and accounts. This money is not mine in the slightest. 356 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 4: I reiterated what we had said to them, and we 357 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 4: are waiting on their move. Thank you to everyone. We 358 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 4: have definitely learned and we'll never do anything like this again. 359 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 5: Yeah. 360 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 4: Well, I hope that you know you can get the 361 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 4: money back or honestly sell the camera. 362 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, you can probably get some money back that way, 363 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 3: maybe not exactly the amount that you got. 364 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 4: But a little bit. Yeah, but definitely like you'll just 365 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 4: be like, yeah, no, actually I sold it. So yeah, 366 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 4: I'm sure you'll get all. 367 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 2: But the one fifty that they are willing to pay 368 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 2: you back. 369 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 4: Yes. 370 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, you only used it once and that's the end 371 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 2: of this story. We're gonna go to the next one. 372 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 6: My son doesn't want his grandma at his surgery, and 373 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 6: the guilt is eating me alive. 374 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 4: Well, come on, Grandma's been there for everything. 375 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 5: To start. 376 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 6: I am a single mother with two boys aged fifteen 377 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 6: and six. I have a very small very loving village 378 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 6: of supporters in our lives, and the grandmother in question 379 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 6: has been a significant part of that for many years. 380 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 6: This post involves my fifteen year old who will call 381 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 6: Fury for his love of cars. 382 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 7: Okay, all right, naturally, his younger brother who will call 383 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 7: Grimlin for his spice naturally, sure, and Grandma who will 384 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 7: still call Grandma. 385 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 5: You can't do that. 386 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 6: You can't have two baller names and just Grandma. 387 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 5: Golly. 388 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 6: By the way, this comes from Christy zero three two five. 389 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:44,239 Speaker 6: Oh and if you want to spa on stories, you 390 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 6: know exactly where to go. 391 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 4: I'm Riley, I'm Savannah, I'm Carly, and. 392 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 6: We're gonna be hearing this of reading about Fury and 393 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 6: Grimlin ruthfully. If you have anything you want to add, 394 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 6: please add them down. 395 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:57,199 Speaker 5: Below a few cents. 396 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 6: Fury was born with a heart condition that requires two 397 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 6: surgeries and will now be needing his third. He'll continue 398 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 6: to have several more throughout his life, but in the 399 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 6: grand scheme of things, he's doing well. Last month, we 400 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 6: traveled to a well known children's hospital and another providence 401 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 6: for testing, which is what decided the need. 402 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 5: For this surgery. 403 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:19,640 Speaker 6: We were told Fury would be added to the surgeon's list, 404 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 6: and that we'd likely be notified sometime this summer of 405 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 6: when it would be scheduled. A month before the surgery, 406 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 6: we'll need to go back to the hospital for some 407 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 6: closer scans so the surgeon can map out a plan, 408 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 6: speak with us about what to expect, and have us 409 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 6: signed papers. Well, those appointments come with much sooner than expected. 410 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 6: We're scheduled for those scans about two weeks, and we 411 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 6: apparently get the surgery date sent home with us. Now, 412 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:49,120 Speaker 6: for the reason for this post, Fury does not want 413 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 6: me to tell grandma about any of this until we 414 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 6: have the surgery dates. What and now we're reading it 415 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 6: that this is the problem. 416 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 5: This is the problem. This is the problem we're reading about. 417 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, he doesn't want to tell his grandma about his surgery. 418 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:04,360 Speaker 6: It doesn't seem like that big of a deal from 419 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 6: just reading that, does it not. 420 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:09,880 Speaker 4: I feel like probably the grandma is like very worried 421 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 4: and is probably someone who is maybe just very scared 422 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 4: when it comes to that stuff, and so like she 423 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:19,679 Speaker 4: worries and worries or worries and probably gets on his 424 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 4: nerves a little bit. 425 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 6: His reasoning that he doesn't want her constantly hounding him 426 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 6: with phone calls and messages asking how he's feeling about 427 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 6: the date approaching. 428 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 8: There you go. 429 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 6: Grandma also has a terrible habit of never keeping news 430 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 6: to herself and fury. He doesn't want to wage through 431 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 6: the inevitable onslaught of her friends and family. People he's 432 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 6: well acquainted with constantly ask him if he's ready, or 433 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 6: if he's nervous, or probing for details. Sadly, every one 434 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 6: of his concerns is valid. We've dealt with it before. 435 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 6: He also doesn't want Grandma inserting herself into the decisions 436 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 6: he's making about the procedure, or trying to invite herself 437 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 6: to the surgery itself. I understand where he's coming from. 438 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 6: Grandma can be loud, overbearing, and careless when she gets 439 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 6: on a ramble. I know if you feel like that, 440 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:10,439 Speaker 6: but she's also very loving and would bend over backwards 441 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 6: for him. Anne has been a massive support to us 442 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:17,360 Speaker 6: over the years when his father her son didn't step up. 443 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 5: I also know people like that. 444 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 6: She stepped in for the first time a couple of 445 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 6: years ago of Grimlin's life, who has complex needs. When 446 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 6: his father and family vanished. I would have crumbled much 447 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 6: further if it hadn't been for her. So Grandma's pretty solid. 448 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 5: She just likes to talk. 449 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, and she's also overbearing, like it's like, oh, are 450 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 4: you ready? Are you ready? Are you ready? I'd be like, okay, 451 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,679 Speaker 4: So I'm asking me about it. I don't know it's surgery, 452 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 4: and I don't think anyone's ever ready for surgery. They're not, 453 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 4: They're not okay. 454 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 6: Because of that sense of gratitude, I'm feeling incredibly guilty. 455 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 5: Keeping this from her. 456 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 6: I know she'll be her to be left out of 457 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 6: such a certificate medical news about her grandson. She'll feel 458 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 6: oscillated and it'll gut her. She's been involved in every 459 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:05,919 Speaker 6: previous medical situation up until this point. But Fury is 460 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,959 Speaker 6: his own person, and even at his age where he 461 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 6: can deny having a surgery at all if he doesn't 462 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 6: want to, and I, as his mother, won't it be 463 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 6: able to do anything about it? 464 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 5: What should I do? 465 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 6: I feel like if I don't let her in on 466 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:23,120 Speaker 6: the development, she'll be resentful and even back off from 467 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 6: helping or seeing the kids in the future. And selfishly, 468 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,479 Speaker 6: I really can't imagine doing this without a member of 469 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 6: my little village in our corner. But Fury deserves for 470 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 6: me to respect his decision. And it's not like she 471 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 6: won't find out about the surgery once we know the 472 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 6: date ourselves. 473 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 5: So would I be the a hole if I kept. 474 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 6: The news of my son's upcoming appointments from his grandmother. Update, 475 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 6: we're letting her know when we're certain about the surgery date. 476 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:51,439 Speaker 6: She's still gonna know. 477 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 4: She's just not gonna know for like weeks prior. 478 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 2: From what I heard, I think that it's totally valid 479 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:00,959 Speaker 2: his concerns of life, like I don't want to explain 480 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 2: to everyone while I'm getting a surgery. Let me let 481 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 2: me have it and then we can tell grandma and 482 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 2: then she doesn't have to freak out. 483 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, the thing is, they would still be telling 484 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 4: her the date like oh, by the way, like there's 485 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 4: another surgery coming up on this date, but like they're 486 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 4: gonna be telling her probably a couple days before or 487 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 4: that day to be like, oh, yeah, we're going in 488 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 4: for surgery blah blah blah, and you know, and you 489 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 4: can even honestly, you can kind of lie and be 490 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 4: like oh, yeah, you know, it came out of nowhere. 491 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 4: We were supposed to be scheduled like a month later, 492 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 4: but they had an opening and so we're just going in. 493 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 4: We meant to tell you about it, you know, type 494 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 4: of thing. I could say that and then have the 495 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 4: conversation after once everything's settled, and be like, hey, listen, 496 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 4: you know he doesn't really like you know, he feels 497 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 4: kind of pressured and frustrated or whatever. 498 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 5: So updates. 499 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 6: I need to make one thing clear that I must 500 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 6: not have calm across in my original post given some 501 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 6: of the responses. I am absolutely not going against any 502 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 6: of my son's wishes, and I will not be telling 503 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 6: his grandmother or anything he does not want her to know. 504 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 8: Ever. 505 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 6: Oh right, that's awesome, right, Yeah, I like this. If 506 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 6: he's ever asked me to keep anything private, I've kept 507 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 6: it private. He and I have a very good relationship. 508 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 6: He tells me everything all the time and trust me 509 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 6: with things I'm sometimes shocked he'd ever share. I would 510 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 6: never risk that by going behind his back. 511 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 5: So we got a solid fortitude of trust right here. 512 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 4: Yeah. 513 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 6: I caim to read it in regard to my own 514 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 6: feelings of guilt, and I guess looking for some validation 515 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 6: that I'm doing the right thing, even when it has 516 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 6: always been a no brainer. I deal with severe anxiety, 517 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 6: and I'm always questioning myself. Questioning and feeling guilty is 518 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 6: very second nature to me. I'd also like to share 519 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 6: more context around the why of my guilt, since I 520 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 6: saw a few comments about it. When I say Grandma 521 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,239 Speaker 6: is part of my village and helped me pick up 522 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 6: my broken pieces, I mean it. I struggle with high 523 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 6: anxiety and oppression, and I work very hard not to 524 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 6: let them get in the way of taking. 525 00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:58,679 Speaker 5: Care of my children. 526 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 6: While all my folks and energy went into the kids, 527 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 6: Grandma made sure I was still taking care of me, eating, sleeping, showering. 528 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 6: She prompted me to do it all. When things got 529 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 6: really bad in twenty nineteen, she come over and watched 530 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 6: the kids while I did so lean up after me 531 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 6: when I made us all dinner, put the kids to 532 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:21,360 Speaker 6: bed for me. From the outside, I appeared to be okay, 533 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:25,120 Speaker 6: and people were shocked when I finally explained how thinly 534 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 6: my thread was holding on. I'm not mentioning this because 535 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 6: I want to reward I'm just trying to paint how 536 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 6: much attention has always been on my children regardless of 537 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 6: whatever state I'm in. My favorite thing about myself is 538 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 6: how well I've kept my struggles away from my kids awareness. 539 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 6: I never want them to worry about anything beyond the 540 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:46,479 Speaker 6: crap life has already dealt them beyond that. Grandma has 541 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 6: been there for me every single medical emergency. When Fury's 542 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 6: father didn't want to attend an appointment, she came and said, 543 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 6: so we wouldn't be alone, and as second set of 544 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 6: ears for me under stress, I struggled to retain information. 545 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:02,120 Speaker 6: So a second pair of ears is always preferred. When 546 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 6: Fury had a magical emergency, Grandma came to the first 547 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 6: hospital with us and stayed behind to chew his father out. 548 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 6: When his excuse for not coming was not wanting to 549 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,479 Speaker 6: miss a marathon he was in more context? 550 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 5: How do we feel about this? Do we want more? 551 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 5: Do we want more context? I mean, do we want 552 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 5: more context? Everyone? 553 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 4: I feel like I get it now. 554 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 5: Carl, would you like some more context? 555 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 2: I'm trying to see if there's any other good context coming? 556 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 3: Yeah? 557 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 5: How we feel? This is what I expected? I knew 558 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 5: this was gonna happen. 559 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 6: I already knew this well, I didn't know no, but 560 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 6: I got the vibe of it. 561 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 2: I feel like the next one shows the dad. 562 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 4: A little bite, a little bit more of a poo poo. 563 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,880 Speaker 4: Now we're bringing in big Daddy showing his POV. 564 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 6: After Fury's second open heart surgery in twenty twenty one, 565 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 6: it was Grandma and Grandpa who drove three and a 566 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 6: half hours across two provinces to pick. 567 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 5: Us up after Fury's father had. 568 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 6: Left us stranded at the hospital with no way home 569 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 6: and no money. She also helped me arrange drives to 570 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 6: and from this far away hospital to cut costs since 571 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 6: I can't drive, I'm partially and progressively blind, and I'm 572 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,919 Speaker 6: very low income. She's been there for my lowest moments 573 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 6: so I could keep the truth of those hardships from 574 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 6: my kids. 575 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 5: I'm sorry that was so long. 576 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 4: At least she notices taken accountability. 577 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 8: I like that. 578 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 6: Maybe knowing all that helps explain where my guilt comes from. 579 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 6: It's simply because she's always been a part of the equation. 580 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 6: Very used to seek her out, even and wanted her there. 581 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 6: This is actually the first time he's expressed not wanting 582 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 6: her involved. And although it surprised me, I'm not gonna 583 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 6: disrespect him by blurting his personal business and risk breaking 584 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 6: his trust. Also, just to mention this, his father is 585 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 6: no longer in the picture. As of January of twenty 586 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 6: twenty six, Very no longer sees or speaks to him 587 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 6: due to their poor relationship and the terrible way his 588 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 6: father would talk to him. I never wanted to send 589 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 6: him over for core ordered weekends, but I was obligated to. Eventually, 590 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,400 Speaker 6: Fury had enough and told himself that he was done. 591 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 6: He obviously also does not know about these appointments or 592 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 6: future surgery. Doesn't sound like you care. Lastly, I'd be 593 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,919 Speaker 6: lying if I said I didn't depend on the support 594 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 6: of Grandma and my village to keep me sane. But 595 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 6: her feelings don't outweigh my children's, and they never will. 596 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 6: My need for support doesn't outweigh my child's wishes. I've 597 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 6: shut Grandma down before and set boundaries with her for 598 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 6: overstepping or oversharing that she mostly abided by. But she 599 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,160 Speaker 6: gets rambly and she will overshare. 600 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 2: Hmm. 601 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 4: I feel like that runs to the family. 602 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 6: Fury has brought forward this boundary of his own, and 603 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,919 Speaker 6: it's clear and needs to be drawn. She doesn't do 604 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,400 Speaker 6: it with ill intentions, and she's expressed genuine regret when 605 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 6: called out. Sometimes she doesn't catch herself until she's called out, 606 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,199 Speaker 6: but good intentions don't exempt her from the her or 607 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,439 Speaker 6: stress her negligence has caused. I'll be talking with her 608 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 6: privately to remind her of her boundaries and enforce them 609 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 6: point blank. I will stand end up four and by 610 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:02,400 Speaker 6: my children. 611 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 5: Always. 612 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 6: It's about them, not me, not her, not their baby 613 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 6: juice donors them. I suppose I was just looking for 614 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 6: others to hear this situation and tell me I'm being 615 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 6: lily for filling unwarranted guilt and worry. And I eventually 616 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 6: did get that, But for now, I really want to 617 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 6: stress that my grandmother story is just a very, very 618 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 6: awesome person. So when Fury was about six years old, 619 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 6: I was not feeling the best and I was I 620 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 6: think I had a cold, But Grandma came through and 621 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:34,640 Speaker 6: she gave me. 622 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 2: We're just gonna do that. And now you and me 623 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 2: can keep talking, Savannah. They can't hear Riley anymore. I 624 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 2: mute at him, we can't hear them. 625 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 4: Look at that. He's so funny. He's continuing to go. 626 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 6: And I really just help me in under an hour. 627 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 2: And that's the end of this story. We're going to 628 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 2: go to the next one. Hey, it's Carly, your favorite 629 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 2: Axeltel host. 630 00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 4: Here. 631 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 2: We're going to get back to the stories. But here's 632 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 2: three minutes of ads from our sponsors. 633 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 4: My sister made me her maid of honor while I'm ill, 634 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 4: so I left before her wedding. 635 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 2: I'm too sick for this. 636 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 4: Let's start with the history. I, twenty five female, and 637 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 4: my sister, thirty female, have a dysfunctional relationship. Let's call 638 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 4: her Carissa. Carissa as my parents first adopted daughter after 639 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 4: a struggle with infertility, and became a literal answer to 640 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 4: prayers for them. He never told her no, never offered discipline, 641 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 4: and overall, Carissa turned out as well as she could 642 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 4: given the lack of being taught accountability. When she was 643 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 4: five years old, I was adopted as an infant. Carissa 644 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 4: remembers asking her parents to bring her home a sister. 645 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 4: She even took me as her kindergarten show and tell 646 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 4: when I came home. That's kind of sweet, though, I 647 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 4: would say. 648 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 2: My aunt took my dad as show and tell one year. 649 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 4: That's so cute. I would say. We had a fairly 650 00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 4: normal sibling relationship. I noticed a pattern early of Chrissa's 651 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 4: inclination for victimization, and it in turn taught me my 652 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 4: role of being the apologizer. A vivid memory I have 653 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,239 Speaker 4: is when I was in middle school, Carissa and I 654 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 4: had thought about something silly while doing dishes, and it 655 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 4: prompted our mom to call a family meeting. Our mom 656 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 4: asked Carissa what she would say was the root of 657 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 4: all the problems, and in turn, Carissa threw both of 658 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 4: her arms out extended towards me without another word. By 659 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 4: the way, this comes from Cultural Log eighteen thirteen. And 660 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 4: if you want to submit your own stories, good to 661 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 4: the Arslash Showcase Storytime severn at. I'm Savannah, I'm Carly, 662 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 4: and we are here to dog about some stuff, maybe 663 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 4: give some advice. But we really don't have all the answers. 664 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 4: We only tell you what we would do, but you 665 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 4: shall let us know what you would do down in 666 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 4: the comments. As OPI says, Carissa also has a history 667 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 4: of rewriting the past in her mind and wholly believing 668 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 4: in as fact, she has fully convinced herself she had 669 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 4: to raise herself since she was five because our parents 670 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 4: were too busy with me. She has fully convinced herself 671 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 4: we had an absentee father, a blatant lie. She has 672 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 4: fully convinced herself our parents had never done enough for her, 673 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,959 Speaker 4: which is ironic considering what I'm going to say next. 674 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 4: When Chrisa graduated junior college, my parents bought her a 675 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 4: house in a very wealthy, private neighborhood. Dang, a house 676 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 4: as a graduation gift. That's crazy. Oh my god, I 677 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 4: think I just got like maybe like one hundred dollars. 678 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 2: With my dad and like a graduation party and like 679 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 2: a like. 680 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 4: A card from a mom. Oh yeah, this is junior college. 681 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 4: Is that high school? I'm guessing. Yeah, I just got 682 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 4: a graduation party if it's high school graduation party. When 683 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 4: I graduated college, it was during the VID so I 684 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 4: didn't have anything, So that was fun. 685 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 1: Uh. 686 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 4: She got a roommate, didn't like it, and moved home. 687 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 4: The next year, Chrissa moved into another house my parents 688 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 4: bought for her with one of her cousins. She didn't 689 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 4: like it, moved home. When I graduated high school, my 690 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 4: parents moved Chrissa and I into another home they bought. 691 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 4: During that time living together, Carrissa would verbally mistreat me 692 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,239 Speaker 4: for my body, my clothing, my boyfriend who is now 693 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 4: my husband after six years of dating, and my job. 694 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,719 Speaker 4: I still have the voice recording of her referring to 695 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 4: me as a salute for wearing mid thigh length shorts 696 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 4: during our one hundred and nine plus degree summer. I 697 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 4: ended up moving now from behind her back and into 698 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 4: a crappy Rundown apartment with my boyfriend. She wasn't able 699 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 4: to afford living there on her own and was forced 700 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 4: to move home a third time. Bear in mind, my 701 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 4: family kept this home as a rental property important for later. 702 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 4: During the year or so after I left living with her, 703 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 4: it was expressed to me by our mom that the 704 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 4: fact we were distant now was hurting her heart. My 705 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 4: mom begged me to try and repair things, so I 706 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 4: started trying again to foster a relationship with my sister one. 707 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 4: I did not want all to make sure my parents' 708 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 4: emotions were catered to. Oh there is an absurdity warning here, 709 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 4: Oh fabulous. Fast forward to November of twenty twenty four, 710 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 4: Wicked is released in theaters. Yes, this is Caris and 711 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 4: I went to see it together and had a wonderful 712 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 4: night now a bit of a sidebar. My now mother 713 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,719 Speaker 4: in law's favorite movie is Wizard of Oz, and she 714 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 4: was inclined to see Wicked. My own mom loved Wicked 715 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 4: and wanted to see it too, so I reached out 716 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 4: to my now mother in law and checked what show 717 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 4: times worked best for her. So I invited Carissa, letting 718 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 4: her know we were going to buy tickets and seeing 719 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 4: if she was available to come too. Unfortunately, she had 720 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:29,959 Speaker 4: a prior commitment with her horse. Yeah, unfortunately I have 721 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 4: horse duty. 722 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:32,959 Speaker 2: Sorry guys, I can't my horse. 723 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 4: We let her know it was no big deal and 724 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 4: got our three tickets, me, mom, and my mother in law. 725 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 4: Eight or so hours later, that same day, Carissa texts 726 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 4: me stating how hurt and unwanted I made her feel 727 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 4: for not trying to be more flexible and including her 728 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 4: to see the movie a second time. She went off Suddenly, 729 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 4: this was the catastrophe of the century. I was selfish. 730 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 4: I was intentionally hurting her. I was robbing her of 731 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 4: the opportunity to feel part of something, and I had 732 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 4: had enough. I ended up sending a very hateful text, 733 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 4: fueled by about five to six years worth of pent 734 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 4: up rage. I told her. She was a self absorbed person. 735 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 4: She was always playing victim, that she treats our family 736 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 4: like crap, and that I was done catering to her 737 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 4: childish excuses for the way she acts. Carissa cut me 738 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 4: off until after New Year's and those couple months were 739 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 4: the happiest I had been. See, that's how you know 740 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 4: you made the right decision. 741 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, when like your peace. 742 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, when you get rid of something and then you're like, wow, 743 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,840 Speaker 4: what a weight off my shoulder. You're like, wait a second, 744 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 4: hold on. That is until her mom came back to 745 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 4: me saying how hurt she was by her strained relationship. 746 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 4: In November twenty twenty five, I got married. During my 747 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 4: last year of engagement, I went through a devastating set 748 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,320 Speaker 4: of medical crises that have since resulted in a terminal 749 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,840 Speaker 4: illness diagnosis. I have now been battling terminal illness for 750 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 4: nine months. During those medical episodes, it coincided with my 751 00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 4: bridal showers and a bachelorette party. So was my main 752 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,840 Speaker 4: of honor. Not because they chose her, but because that 753 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 4: expectation was thrust upon me by both her and our mom. 754 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 4: To preserve the peace, Carissa never bothered to plan a 755 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 4: bachelorette for me, and the day of the bachelorette she 756 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,839 Speaker 4: skipped my bridal shower and the party that followed that night. 757 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 4: Now Carissa was able to meet someone via online dating, 758 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 4: and he is the physical embodiment of Jaba. 759 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 8: The hut. 760 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 9: Ah. 761 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 4: Some people like that and guess where They started living 762 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,399 Speaker 4: together in a fourth home my parents bought for her 763 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 4: once they started to get more settled in Japa and 764 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,840 Speaker 4: her didn't have enough space, so, surprise, surprise, they moved 765 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 4: into the home my parents had kept as a rental. 766 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,320 Speaker 4: Carissa got engaged and her wedding will be June twenty 767 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 4: twenty six, seven months after mine. The man she has chosen, Jaba, 768 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 4: is thirty three, divorced and has two children by two 769 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 4: different women. Okay, oh a hold on. He also pays 770 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,840 Speaker 4: no child support and has no relationship with either child. 771 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 4: He works three days a week, allows Chrissa to be 772 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,879 Speaker 4: the bread winner, and has Carissa take on financials for 773 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,400 Speaker 4: his hobbies. He has no living family aside from his 774 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 4: two children, and plans to take our family's last name. 775 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 4: So this guy is a sucubis. He does not subis, 776 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:21,359 Speaker 4: so he's a leech. 777 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 2: He's a good one. 778 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a He's a leech. He's just latching on 779 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 4: and taking whenever he can. Thanks, what a little parasite. 780 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 4: I am currently Carrissa's maid of honor, something I was 781 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,799 Speaker 4: told I wasn't allowed to decline in order to say 782 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 4: it with me preserve the peace. I am expected to 783 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:43,920 Speaker 4: partake in planning Carissa's bridal shower, bachelorette party, and deliver 784 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 4: a speech at her wedding, all things she failed to 785 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,239 Speaker 4: do or failed it with my wedding. Now Here is 786 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,400 Speaker 4: why I am asking if I would be in the wrong. 787 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:56,360 Speaker 4: Carissa comprehends that I am battling terminal illness, something I 788 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 4: have recently in the last two months started chemo therapyfore 789 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 4: after multiple rounds of immunotherapy treatments. With my treatment plan, 790 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 4: I also have to give myself injections of an immunosuppressant 791 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,759 Speaker 4: at home every two weeks. When planning dress fittings for 792 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 4: the bridal party, every day Carissa has picked coincides with 793 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 4: one of my at home injections. She has told me, 794 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 4: if you effing care, you'll make it work and be there. 795 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:23,360 Speaker 4: My god, my, I mean give her a break. 796 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,320 Speaker 2: And this is why I'm dropping out of your wedding. 797 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, my god, girl, god awful person. 798 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,239 Speaker 2: I mean we know from the title that you know 799 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,719 Speaker 2: what you gotta do, so I'm I'm glad that you 800 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 2: know to just stop helping her because she sounds awful. 801 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:42,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's just really I think if you just keep 802 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,239 Speaker 4: doing what she asks, nothing's gonna change. The only thing, 803 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,480 Speaker 4: Like I understand, you want to keep or preserve the 804 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,839 Speaker 4: piece you know, as your mom says, preserve the peace 805 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:54,959 Speaker 4: with your sister. But she's a witch, you god, I mean, 806 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,360 Speaker 4: she can't think of one nice thing to do for 807 00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:01,480 Speaker 4: someone that's insane. Her bridles shall or coincides with both 808 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,920 Speaker 4: my at home injections and my chemo schedule. I am 809 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 4: still expected to not only be there, but run the 810 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 4: games we will play and follow up the shower with 811 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 4: a bachelorette outing that night. I can and do forgive 812 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,920 Speaker 4: her for my wedding meaning nothing, to her for blowing 813 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,799 Speaker 4: off my bridal shower, for majorly dropping the ball on 814 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,879 Speaker 4: my bachelorette, but not being able to be bothered enough 815 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 4: to check in on my sister with terminal illness, going 816 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 4: through chemo, and having upwards of thirty hospitalizations under her 817 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:34,360 Speaker 4: belt in the last eight months. That to me is unforgivable. 818 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 4: So would I be the a hole for cutting my 819 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:41,479 Speaker 4: sister off two months before her wedding? No, I see. 820 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:42,919 Speaker 4: The thing is, I feel like you have a really 821 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 4: good excuse, but I don't want you to be weaponizing 822 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:52,440 Speaker 4: that because that I don't know, it just could go 823 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,799 Speaker 4: in a bad direction. I mean, the thing is, it's 824 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:58,719 Speaker 4: gonna go in a bad direction just because you're canceling 825 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,880 Speaker 4: on someone's wedding. There's never I've never known someone to 826 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 4: just be like, oh, yeah, that's fine, but she. 827 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 2: Doesn't want a relationship with her anyway. 828 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, what doesn't matter. And she also like didn't give 829 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,759 Speaker 4: her didn't give op any of what she wanted for 830 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,439 Speaker 4: her wedding, So it's kind of, you know, fair game 831 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,600 Speaker 4: at this point. I would, you know, I would still 832 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,600 Speaker 4: try to be a part of the wedding, maybe just 833 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:24,400 Speaker 4: drop out as made of honor or something, and also 834 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,720 Speaker 4: maybe have a discussion with like your mom and sister 835 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:31,239 Speaker 4: saying I don't know if you know this, but I'm 836 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,840 Speaker 4: actually going through chemo right now and I can't do 837 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,440 Speaker 4: a lot in terms of like planning parties when I 838 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,760 Speaker 4: literally have to inject myself every two weeks with something 839 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 4: that helps me live. She knows she's going through that, 840 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 4: Yeah she does, but she doesn't care. I would just 841 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:49,520 Speaker 4: kind of maybe reiterate again, which is. 842 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 2: Why I don't think that you should care about dropping 843 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 2: out of her wedding. 844 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think you. I don't think it would 845 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 4: be the a hole because you do have other things 846 00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 4: going on that are bigger than her wedding. 847 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:02,960 Speaker 2: You have a terminal illness. Yeah, you're like, no, spend 848 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 2: your time in peace away from her. 849 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 1: True. 850 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:07,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think as long as you have peace of 851 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,360 Speaker 4: mind in whatever decision you make, I think you should 852 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 4: be good. 853 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:12,640 Speaker 2: And that's the end of this story. We're gonna go 854 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,799 Speaker 2: to the next one. I bought a DNA kit to 855 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:21,480 Speaker 2: plan a vacation. It exposed a secret kept hidden for years. 856 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,799 Speaker 4: Uh oh, what have momben up? 857 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:28,239 Speaker 2: Two? I haven't really discussed this with anyone since it's 858 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,080 Speaker 2: a touchy subject, but figured why not drop it here 859 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,520 Speaker 2: and get it off my chest since it's the most 860 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,879 Speaker 2: dramatic thing that's happened in my life so far. By 861 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 2: the way, this comes from after store sixty eight oh nine, 862 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 2: And if you want to make your own stories, go 863 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:42,920 Speaker 2: to the r slash Okay storytime sub brought it. 864 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:44,520 Speaker 4: I'm Carly, I'm Savannah, and. 865 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,520 Speaker 2: We're here to give good advice Goofily, but we don't 866 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,400 Speaker 2: have all the answers. We only know what we would do. 867 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:49,920 Speaker 2: Let us know what you would do in the comments 868 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,719 Speaker 2: and no pieceas So a little backstory. My mom and 869 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,560 Speaker 2: dad ended up getting divorced when I was ten, and 870 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:57,839 Speaker 2: my dad has been out of my life since for 871 00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 2: the most part. He's a heavy dream and ended up 872 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,959 Speaker 2: losing visitation rights for a bit and then was able 873 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,880 Speaker 2: to have supervised visits that were few and far between 874 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:11,320 Speaker 2: and eventually stopped when I was around fourteen. No birthday cards, 875 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,120 Speaker 2: no request to visit or meet up. Even when I 876 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:17,239 Speaker 2: got into my adult years. There are photos of him 877 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,279 Speaker 2: holding me as a baby, and I ended up with 878 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,200 Speaker 2: the exact same hair and eye color, so there was 879 00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,640 Speaker 2: no thought in my mind that he wasn't my dad. 880 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:26,880 Speaker 2: I grew up with a lot of guilt and shame 881 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,120 Speaker 2: that I was potentially the reason they ended up getting divorced, 882 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:35,239 Speaker 2: and then anger that he chose booze overseeing his kids. Anyways, 883 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,080 Speaker 2: lots of drama with all of that. Flash forward to 884 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:42,600 Speaker 2: April thirtieth, twenty twenty three, I twenty seven female at 885 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:46,839 Speaker 2: the time, decided to purchase an ancestry DNA kit. At 886 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,480 Speaker 2: the time, I was big into watching Outlander and got 887 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 2: the itch to investigate my bloodline and history since I 888 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,799 Speaker 2: have a common Irish last name and I knew I 889 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:58,200 Speaker 2: was of Irish and slash Scottish descent on my dad's side, 890 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,760 Speaker 2: and I wanted to travel to the UK at some point. 891 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,040 Speaker 2: I sent in my sample, got my results, and began 892 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,120 Speaker 2: building my tree with a little help from my maternal grandmother, 893 00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:09,319 Speaker 2: just to get my mom's side filled out the best 894 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,239 Speaker 2: I could. I went to her house and we spent 895 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,799 Speaker 2: the day pouring over family history documents she had in 896 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 2: a binder, and it was so fun comparing the information 897 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,440 Speaker 2: she had to what was already inside the ancestry database. 898 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,400 Speaker 2: I texted my mom and told her what I was 899 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 2: up to and if she knew much about Dad's side 900 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,560 Speaker 2: that I could put in. She didn't respond with anything helpful, 901 00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:31,480 Speaker 2: and I figured she was busy with work. But I 902 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,600 Speaker 2: moved on and continued filling it out myself. Jump scared 903 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,800 Speaker 2: a Mother's Day May fourteenth, I head to the store 904 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,280 Speaker 2: and pick up flowers and cards for my mom and grandma, 905 00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,560 Speaker 2: which I honestly had never done, but I must have 906 00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,920 Speaker 2: been feeling nostalgic or whatever. I had to my grandma's 907 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:47,840 Speaker 2: house for lunch and to hang out with the family. 908 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,360 Speaker 2: It's our typical group of seven at the time, myself, 909 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:55,120 Speaker 2: my grandma, grandpa, mom, brother, sister, and her boyfriend. We 910 00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:58,080 Speaker 2: go through the day hanging out and have lunch chatting, 911 00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,600 Speaker 2: and I even bring up the ancestry thing during lunch 912 00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,280 Speaker 2: and talk about possibly planning a trip with my siblings 913 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,960 Speaker 2: to Ireland to check things out. Eventually, lunch ends and 914 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,120 Speaker 2: my mom declares that we need to convene in the 915 00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:13,239 Speaker 2: living room for something important, just my brother's sister and me. 916 00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,759 Speaker 2: My first thought is that someone's passing away based on 917 00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,799 Speaker 2: past experiences with conversations that start like this. 918 00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:21,680 Speaker 4: The four of us head. 919 00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,320 Speaker 2: Into the living room and instantly the mood is tense 920 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:26,879 Speaker 2: and we just prowd my mom to spit it out. 921 00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:30,000 Speaker 2: She proceeds to tell me that I'm adopted, that my 922 00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,080 Speaker 2: birth father is a guy that my mom went to 923 00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,879 Speaker 2: high school with who was a few years older than her. 924 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:39,200 Speaker 4: Wait Adopted is a crazy way of saying, yeah, I 925 00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:44,520 Speaker 4: had a baby before I was married to your dad. Yeah, 926 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:48,000 Speaker 4: like that's what I'm getting here, but you're mine. 927 00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:49,960 Speaker 2: He didn't want a baby, didn't need to know that. 928 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,440 Speaker 2: Thanks Mom. She tells me that he signed away his 929 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,120 Speaker 2: rights after I was born, and she updated my birth 930 00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,279 Speaker 2: certificate with my dad's last name and put him down 931 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,560 Speaker 2: as the father. He is apparently never reached out since then. 932 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:09,400 Speaker 2: I was obviously feeling a slew of emotions all at once. Shock, confusion, hurt, embarrassment, anger, shock. 933 00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:11,600 Speaker 2: This was the very last thing I thought would be 934 00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,080 Speaker 2: coming out of her mouth, of all the things she 935 00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:17,200 Speaker 2: could have said that was not on my Bengo card. Confusion. 936 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,400 Speaker 2: I had gone my whole life with the thought that 937 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,000 Speaker 2: this other man was my father, and suddenly I was 938 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,799 Speaker 2: being told that there was an other that existed in 939 00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,719 Speaker 2: a parallel universe that I had just never met, and 940 00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:29,000 Speaker 2: that just didn't make sense to me. 941 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:29,720 Speaker 1: Hurt. 942 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,120 Speaker 2: I was almost thirty, and this had never been brought 943 00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,960 Speaker 2: up by her, or anyone on my mom or dad's 944 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,520 Speaker 2: side that had known this information and kept it from me. 945 00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,480 Speaker 2: It couldn't be real. I would have noticed at some 946 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:45,960 Speaker 2: point that something was off right. How had I not embarrassment, 947 00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,600 Speaker 2: everyone had known and it was the odd man out 948 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,279 Speaker 2: of my own parentage. Why was she telling me this 949 00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:55,000 Speaker 2: life changing information in front of my siblings now half siblings, 950 00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,719 Speaker 2: No offense, but this was obviously triggering information that I 951 00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,120 Speaker 2: would think she would have wanted to discuss one on one, 952 00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:04,520 Speaker 2: not in a group of others to witness anger all 953 00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:06,719 Speaker 2: the reasons above, Why would she wait so long to 954 00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,960 Speaker 2: say something? I was almost thirty, for Christ's sake? How 955 00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,400 Speaker 2: could she pass up all the opportunities in life to 956 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,600 Speaker 2: tell me something so vital? If I had never started 957 00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,920 Speaker 2: looking into my genealogy, would she have ever said anything? 958 00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,560 Speaker 2: Would I still be in the dark? Why would she 959 00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,960 Speaker 2: not afford to give me the courtesy of getting to 960 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,719 Speaker 2: process this alone with her instead of with my siblings 961 00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,560 Speaker 2: to witness. I ended up going home right after all 962 00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,640 Speaker 2: of this as I needed space to process. Passed forward 963 00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,360 Speaker 2: to now it's been over two years and I still 964 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,960 Speaker 2: haven't contacted the other. I found his mom on Facebook, 965 00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,239 Speaker 2: confirmed her profile pick with him in it, and I 966 00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,880 Speaker 2: think his sister, but I don't think they've used the 967 00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,279 Speaker 2: app much and I haven't been able to find him 968 00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:47,920 Speaker 2: on anything. 969 00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:52,799 Speaker 4: M Yeah, so you know, not your fault that your 970 00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:53,719 Speaker 4: parents divorced. 971 00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:58,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think I can understand the shock and 972 00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:01,239 Speaker 2: her but she probably just was thinking that deep into 973 00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,600 Speaker 2: it unfortunately, or maybe she thought you'd want your siblings there. 974 00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:05,040 Speaker 2: I don't know. 975 00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:09,520 Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean, I wonder what. I guess 976 00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,920 Speaker 4: the ancestry kit is what prompted that, because I was like, 977 00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:17,480 Speaker 4: why did she even say anything with the dads? That's true. 978 00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,440 Speaker 2: I tried messaging the sister, but she hasn't read the message. 979 00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,560 Speaker 2: I finally friend requested both about a month ago, just 980 00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,279 Speaker 2: to see if I could make contact and get the 981 00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,240 Speaker 2: ball rolling and nothing. How do I go about making 982 00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:33,120 Speaker 2: contact without encroaching on their lives and dragging them into 983 00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,080 Speaker 2: a mess? Should I even reach out? It's obvious that 984 00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,120 Speaker 2: if you wanted to know me, he would have contacted 985 00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:41,440 Speaker 2: my mom or found a way to reach me. I'm conflicted, 986 00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,560 Speaker 2: but I do want to speak to him at least once, 987 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:45,759 Speaker 2: just so that I can explore that part of my 988 00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,959 Speaker 2: life and decide what to do from there. My mother 989 00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,719 Speaker 2: and I's relationship has been tense ever since, and I'm 990 00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,200 Speaker 2: pretty much in a no contact situation with her for 991 00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,160 Speaker 2: my own insanity I'd rather figure this out on my 992 00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:00,680 Speaker 2: own than have her help. Very healthy, I know. Anyways, 993 00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:04,080 Speaker 2: any advice would be very helpful and sorry for the novel. Honestly, 994 00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,120 Speaker 2: my advice was going to be it's probably easiest to 995 00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,160 Speaker 2: go through your mom, and I know that's not what 996 00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:08,839 Speaker 2: you want to hear. 997 00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:13,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I'm sure mom has his number at least, 998 00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:17,200 Speaker 4: you know, I would think, but also I don't know, 999 00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:23,000 Speaker 4: maybe maybe they don't. But also, op this, we always 1000 00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,920 Speaker 4: get these in like these, you know, adoption stories of 1001 00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,960 Speaker 4: like I want to contact my birth parents, I want 1002 00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,240 Speaker 4: to do this, I want to do that, which great, 1003 00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,440 Speaker 4: if that's what you want to do, totally do it. 1004 00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:38,080 Speaker 4: But you also have to be prepared for the outcome. 1005 00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:40,680 Speaker 4: It could be good, it could be bad, or you 1006 00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:42,719 Speaker 4: could just not receive an answer, and you have to 1007 00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,320 Speaker 4: be okay with that as well. There's so many factors 1008 00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:48,839 Speaker 4: that go into it, and I think that you are. 1009 00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:52,480 Speaker 4: It's a huge thing right now and you're trying to 1010 00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:57,000 Speaker 4: find some sort of uh, some sort of way to 1011 00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:01,360 Speaker 4: cope and being like, oh, like my family, you know 1012 00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,879 Speaker 4: they lied to me for all these years, blah blah blah. 1013 00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,000 Speaker 4: I want to go see what this other family is 1014 00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:09,439 Speaker 4: about and then they obviously either don't use social media 1015 00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,360 Speaker 4: or recognize your name and are like, no, we're not 1016 00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,200 Speaker 4: gonna do that. So but that has no reflection on 1017 00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:18,359 Speaker 4: you though, Like you have to understand that everything that 1018 00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,960 Speaker 4: you have done for yourself and all the things that 1019 00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,600 Speaker 4: you have been through you know shape who you are. 1020 00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:27,560 Speaker 4: But you can't like judge yourself on what other people 1021 00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:31,279 Speaker 4: think or do towards like what you want, you know. 1022 00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:34,279 Speaker 2: And that's the end of this story. We're gonna go 1023 00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:35,800 Speaker 2: to the next one. 1024 00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:39,000 Speaker 1: Hey, it's Dakota, your favorite good time boy host. 1025 00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:39,279 Speaker 9: Here. 1026 00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,680 Speaker 1: We're gonna get back to the stories. But here's three 1027 00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:43,440 Speaker 1: minutes of ads from our sponsors. 1028 00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:47,560 Speaker 3: My fiance demanded I change my last name after marriage. 1029 00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:49,480 Speaker 4: I almost called off the wedding. 1030 00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,080 Speaker 5: Well that's a power move. 1031 00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,240 Speaker 3: My fiance thirty three male, and I thirty three female, 1032 00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:58,720 Speaker 3: have been together for five years, engaged for six months. 1033 00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,600 Speaker 3: We recently started designing or save the dates and had 1034 00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,920 Speaker 3: a huge argument over me not changing my last name. 1035 00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:08,239 Speaker 3: We both have extremely generic last names, and a good 1036 00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:12,759 Speaker 3: example of what I'm talking about is Schultz versus Schultz Oi. 1037 00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:16,480 Speaker 3: That's the same name, it just has a C in it. 1038 00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,799 Speaker 3: Can I get a OIV It is the difference of 1039 00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:24,680 Speaker 3: a single silent letter. I explained to my fiance that 1040 00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:26,840 Speaker 3: I do not want to change my last name because 1041 00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,000 Speaker 3: I am a journalist and all of my work is 1042 00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:30,359 Speaker 3: tied to my current name. 1043 00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:32,480 Speaker 4: If I were to change my name, it would mess 1044 00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:34,960 Speaker 4: up my future career opportunities. 1045 00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:38,720 Speaker 3: And by the way, Kean, who does this come from? 1046 00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,359 Speaker 8: This comes from last name? Throw? 1047 00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:44,960 Speaker 3: And if you want to spent your own stories, you 1048 00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:47,080 Speaker 3: should go to our slash okay storytime separate it. 1049 00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:50,520 Speaker 1: I'm Sophia, I'm Dakota, I'm Keon, and we're here to give. 1050 00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,719 Speaker 4: Good advice scoofly. But we don't have all the answers. 1051 00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:54,600 Speaker 3: We only know what we do, So let us know 1052 00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:57,520 Speaker 3: what you do in the comments. And Opie says, plus, 1053 00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:00,520 Speaker 3: my name is the traditional spelling, while my fia is 1054 00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:04,960 Speaker 3: the americanized spelling. What he just got off ellis island. 1055 00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:06,719 Speaker 4: Change it back. 1056 00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,360 Speaker 3: My fiance has told me that he could not fathom 1057 00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:11,640 Speaker 3: having a wife with a different last name, but his 1058 00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:15,200 Speaker 3: only explanation was that it bothered him. He said that 1059 00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:18,319 Speaker 3: it wasn't about tradition, it just felt wrong to him. 1060 00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,359 Speaker 3: I already offered that our children would have his last name, 1061 00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:23,839 Speaker 3: but we're at an impasse. It just feels like he 1062 00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:26,600 Speaker 3: doesn't care about how this will impact my career, or 1063 00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,279 Speaker 3: even that we already share the same last name. The 1064 00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,600 Speaker 3: argument was such a huge blow up that I don't 1065 00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:33,520 Speaker 3: want to get married if it means having to give 1066 00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:35,840 Speaker 3: in to what feels like an unreasonable demand. 1067 00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:36,799 Speaker 4: On top of. 1068 00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,480 Speaker 3: Everything, changing my name would be a huge pain in 1069 00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:42,839 Speaker 3: the butt, as I would probably do everything over and 1070 00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,920 Speaker 3: over again because companies are assuming my last name is 1071 00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:49,319 Speaker 3: misspelled instead of seeing it as my new married name. 1072 00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,680 Speaker 3: And we do have some relevant comments, but do you 1073 00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:53,560 Speaker 3: got any comments of your own? 1074 00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:55,799 Speaker 1: I mean, there's people in our chad being like, well, 1075 00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:57,399 Speaker 1: then he should change his last name. 1076 00:50:57,800 --> 00:50:58,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1077 00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:03,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, everyone knows what a last name is. That's lame, 1078 00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,120 Speaker 1: it's a lamb, it's a lame. You've got a fame 1079 00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:07,920 Speaker 1: as your first name and a lame fame name. 1080 00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,760 Speaker 3: That is also an option if it doesn't affect his job. 1081 00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,120 Speaker 3: But also it is kind of ridiculous that he's making 1082 00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:14,399 Speaker 3: such a huge. 1083 00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:16,480 Speaker 4: Deal out of it, And why did this not come 1084 00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:17,600 Speaker 4: up before? 1085 00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:20,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like I've been super up, you know, 1086 00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,440 Speaker 3: upfront to everyone I know that I want to keep 1087 00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:26,120 Speaker 3: my last name. Yeah, So I feel like, if that 1088 00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:28,200 Speaker 3: was something that was important to you, why was no 1089 00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:29,959 Speaker 3: one talking about it and he did? 1090 00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:31,680 Speaker 4: Why did he change up? 1091 00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:34,400 Speaker 1: I want to point out Kim finding our comments section, 1092 00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,440 Speaker 1: he says, a boo booe he worked at our old school, 1093 00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,719 Speaker 1: sick and you will always remember boe boe. M hmm, 1094 00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,760 Speaker 1: just like you would always remember Sultz Schultz. The fiery 1095 00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:47,000 Speaker 1: commentary of op Schul Schultz. 1096 00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:48,840 Speaker 4: Schultz relevant comments from future. 1097 00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:51,840 Speaker 3: Crazy cat Lady says, if he insists that it isn't 1098 00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:54,720 Speaker 3: tradition but just that it feels wrong to have different names, 1099 00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:57,799 Speaker 3: you could take yours right, especially if he isn't in 1100 00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:00,880 Speaker 3: a career that depends on older work. Did you discuss 1101 00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:03,560 Speaker 3: that option? Opie says, he was something that I brought 1102 00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:07,239 Speaker 3: up and he is adamantly opposed, and ironically it's for 1103 00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:09,880 Speaker 3: the same reasons he doesn't want the work he's published 1104 00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:11,880 Speaker 3: to not be tied to him if he changed his 1105 00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:15,000 Speaker 3: last name. Panic Bread says, that kind of tells you 1106 00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,799 Speaker 3: all you need to know about his reasonableness, doesn't it. 1107 00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:19,920 Speaker 3: What else is he going to refuse to compromise on 1108 00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,960 Speaker 3: in the marriage Opie says, out of the five years 1109 00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,360 Speaker 3: we've been together, this is the only thing we have 1110 00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:28,560 Speaker 3: ever not been able to work past. He is reasonable 1111 00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:31,400 Speaker 3: on everything except this, and he said that he feels 1112 00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:34,160 Speaker 3: horrible about it, but he doesn't think he could marry 1113 00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:35,000 Speaker 3: someone without her. 1114 00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:37,640 Speaker 4: Taking his last name deleted. 1115 00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:39,920 Speaker 3: Says, I see your point, but at one point you 1116 00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,400 Speaker 3: call your last name generic. Do you really want to 1117 00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:45,160 Speaker 3: take the argument to the heights. It's going over something 1118 00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,719 Speaker 3: you find generic, and if you're in a fight that 1119 00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:49,920 Speaker 3: is blown up to these proportions to where you think 1120 00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,520 Speaker 3: you may not even marry the guy. If he doesn't concede, 1121 00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:55,000 Speaker 3: then you don't need to get married when something really 1122 00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:57,239 Speaker 3: big comes up. Will that be your solution or train 1123 00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:00,319 Speaker 3: of thought? Also, Opie said, it is generic, but my 1124 00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:03,239 Speaker 3: last name is the traditional spelling. If I asked to 1125 00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:05,800 Speaker 3: spell either one of our names after hearing it, ninety 1126 00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:07,800 Speaker 3: nine out of one hundred people would spell it the 1127 00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,360 Speaker 3: way my last name is spelled, not the way his 1128 00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:11,040 Speaker 3: is spelled. 1129 00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:12,040 Speaker 1: This is so dumb. 1130 00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:15,080 Speaker 8: This is literally just like my from my point of view, yeah, 1131 00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:16,920 Speaker 8: to my point of view, it's just like. 1132 00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,680 Speaker 1: Honestly, yeah, my point of view, the Jedi are even well, 1133 00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:20,560 Speaker 1: then you are lost. 1134 00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:23,719 Speaker 3: I don't think it matters how it's spelled. I think 1135 00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:27,280 Speaker 3: the real issue here is that your careers are affected. 1136 00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:27,560 Speaker 9: Yeah. 1137 00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,680 Speaker 1: No, the real issue is you guys are totally passing 1138 00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:33,040 Speaker 1: up the opportunity of a lifetime to get you know, 1139 00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:36,480 Speaker 1: all of the storious news articles. People are like, I 1140 00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:38,640 Speaker 1: don't want to read that. But the news article of 1141 00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:42,799 Speaker 1: like this quirky couple overcame their differences by taking the 1142 00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:46,959 Speaker 1: name Schultz Schultz, and it's hilarious. Everyone's gonna know about. 1143 00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,080 Speaker 1: You're gonna be a vital sensation. You're on the Tonight Show, 1144 00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:51,759 Speaker 1: You're on the Today Show, You're on every time of day. 1145 00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:57,040 Speaker 3: Imagen Michaels versus Michael or Green versus and. 1146 00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:58,520 Speaker 1: Those are two different names. 1147 00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,360 Speaker 3: This is the only major dis agreement we have ever had. 1148 00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:03,920 Speaker 3: Things got a bit heated, but it was never to 1149 00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:06,720 Speaker 3: the point of yelling. We each just set our side, 1150 00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,120 Speaker 3: couldn't agree, and then went to bed. Delete it says, 1151 00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:14,120 Speaker 3: but you're seriously contemplating not getting married over it, op says, 1152 00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:16,440 Speaker 3: I will not marry someone who I feel does not 1153 00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:18,200 Speaker 3: respect who I am and my career. 1154 00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:20,560 Speaker 4: If that's unreasonable, then I don't know what to say. 1155 00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:23,279 Speaker 8: I can see them both shouting at each other from 1156 00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:24,080 Speaker 8: both hills that. 1157 00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:24,799 Speaker 4: They're on I don't know. 1158 00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:28,040 Speaker 3: I'm personally on Op's side, and Obody doesn't want to 1159 00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:29,120 Speaker 3: change their name. 1160 00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:32,319 Speaker 8: As someone who has both last names. Just do both 1161 00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:32,920 Speaker 8: last names. 1162 00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:33,680 Speaker 5: Schltz. 1163 00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:38,360 Speaker 1: Like you can eat green greens, We're the green greens. 1164 00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:41,680 Speaker 1: Come on, dude. Could have been fun, Come on. 1165 00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:43,919 Speaker 4: Man, but we got an update two days later. 1166 00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,640 Speaker 3: I was planning on updating this yesterday before I went 1167 00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:49,000 Speaker 3: to bed, but decided to wait until this morning. I 1168 00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,560 Speaker 3: also had to repost this since I edited a major 1169 00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:54,200 Speaker 3: part of the text and kept forgetting to put the tldrn't. 1170 00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:56,879 Speaker 3: I first posted on Wednesday while waiting to lead work. 1171 00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:59,560 Speaker 3: It gave me a lot of time to think, so 1172 00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,800 Speaker 3: I I decided to drop the conversation until after Christmas 1173 00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,239 Speaker 3: to think about everything, and also to not cause more 1174 00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:09,239 Speaker 3: unneeded stress at the holidays. A lot of people suggested 1175 00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:11,520 Speaker 3: that I take my husband's last name and keep my 1176 00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:13,520 Speaker 3: maiden name for professional use, and. 1177 00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:14,839 Speaker 4: I have one thing to say to you all. 1178 00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:17,720 Speaker 3: I have had my name for a thirty three years 1179 00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:20,319 Speaker 3: so far, and suggesting that I do the one thing 1180 00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:23,640 Speaker 3: I don't want to do, which has changed my name 1181 00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:26,840 Speaker 3: in any form is just really shortsighted. With the difference 1182 00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:29,279 Speaker 3: of one letter. No one would assume my name is 1183 00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:32,440 Speaker 3: different because I'm married. They would assume it's a typo 1184 00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:34,920 Speaker 3: since a letter was deleted, which is far more of 1185 00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:38,400 Speaker 3: a nightmare than changing my name to something completely different. 1186 00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:40,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, why don't you guys just decide on a brand 1187 00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:41,879 Speaker 1: new last name. 1188 00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:43,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, change the spelling entirely. 1189 00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:46,520 Speaker 3: As I said in one of my comments, I had 1190 00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:49,319 Speaker 3: already spoken to my fiance's parents about it before I 1191 00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:51,799 Speaker 3: posted it. Had heard our argument. We live in that 1192 00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:55,040 Speaker 3: same house. Now, it's not weird because the house is huge. 1193 00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:58,600 Speaker 1: Okay, it's not weird. 1194 00:55:58,920 --> 00:55:59,840 Speaker 4: It's a big house. 1195 00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:00,600 Speaker 1: Were you say anything? 1196 00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:01,200 Speaker 5: Though, it's not weird. 1197 00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,040 Speaker 4: It's a lot of room for all the Schultzes. 1198 00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:07,200 Speaker 3: And my fiance's dad, father in law, has agreed with me. 1199 00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:10,200 Speaker 3: His wife, my fiance's mom, mother in law, had kept 1200 00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:12,440 Speaker 3: her maiden name and it wasn't an issue at all. 1201 00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:16,360 Speaker 3: So his mom did the same thing. And he still 1202 00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:17,080 Speaker 3: doesn't get it. 1203 00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:18,160 Speaker 8: This is what your parents did. 1204 00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:20,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, my mom kept her maiden name. Yeah, and then 1205 00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:22,000 Speaker 3: we got obviously my. 1206 00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:25,239 Speaker 8: Dad's and look how Cypia turned out perfect. 1207 00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:27,760 Speaker 4: My father in law had to talk with my fiance 1208 00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:29,359 Speaker 4: on Christmas. 1209 00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:31,040 Speaker 3: Before I had woken up. I don't know what all 1210 00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:33,279 Speaker 3: the details were, but the part of it was that 1211 00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:36,480 Speaker 3: their family name had been Schultz for hundreds of years 1212 00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:39,200 Speaker 3: before it was changed to Schultz, and that my fiance 1213 00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:43,040 Speaker 3: was technically going against centuries of family history by insisting 1214 00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:45,240 Speaker 3: that I changed my name and that he would actually 1215 00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:49,520 Speaker 3: be honoring the family by bringing back the traditional name. Wow, 1216 00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:53,800 Speaker 3: marketing level one hundred. This guy's a genius. 1217 00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:56,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, so what if you just instead spin that around? 1218 00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:59,439 Speaker 1: You go, oh, well, just like we started the new 1219 00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:02,320 Speaker 1: tradition centuries ago, we were going to start a new 1220 00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:06,839 Speaker 1: new tradition now, and hundreds of years from now, our 1221 00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:11,480 Speaker 1: children will look back and say, oh, well, our children's 1222 00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:13,800 Speaker 1: children's children will say. 1223 00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:18,880 Speaker 9: Oh, three hundred years ago, family changed from Shultz with 1224 00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:23,720 Speaker 9: his ee to Shultz with a nest. 1225 00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:26,840 Speaker 4: This what is all right? 1226 00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:30,240 Speaker 3: After I woke up, my fiance asked if I would 1227 00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:32,480 Speaker 3: talk with him. I agreed, and he and I had 1228 00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:35,160 Speaker 3: a long discussion about the whole thing. The talk was 1229 00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:38,080 Speaker 3: with his dad about why it bothered him, et cetera. 1230 00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:41,120 Speaker 3: My fiance told me that he loved me regardless of everything, 1231 00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:43,480 Speaker 3: and that it just hadn't occurred to him that he 1232 00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:46,120 Speaker 3: was demanding that I change a fundamental part of me. 1233 00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:48,880 Speaker 3: He also added that my stubbornness about the issue is 1234 00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:51,280 Speaker 3: part of why he likes me. He was like, I 1235 00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:55,600 Speaker 3: really was attracted when you were trying to say no 1236 00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:56,400 Speaker 3: the whole time. 1237 00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:58,200 Speaker 4: It made me love you more, and that's why I 1238 00:57:58,240 --> 00:57:58,680 Speaker 4: kept pushing. 1239 00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:01,240 Speaker 8: I don't know, this is weird because I'm. 1240 00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:02,840 Speaker 4: Not the type of woman to roll over it. 1241 00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:04,160 Speaker 1: They called me in high school. 1242 00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:05,840 Speaker 4: Tuck and roll or final thoughts. 1243 00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:08,800 Speaker 1: Both both of those things. 1244 00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:12,080 Speaker 8: Tucking thoughts, happy not marriage. 1245 00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:15,280 Speaker 4: I guess happy not marriage. 1246 00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:15,760 Speaker 1: I guess. 1247 00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:16,960 Speaker 4: I think they've resolved. 1248 00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:17,960 Speaker 5: Is it resolved? 1249 00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:21,400 Speaker 4: Seems so okay. I think he's coming to an understanding. 1250 00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:24,160 Speaker 3: In the end, my fiance and I agree that he 1251 00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:27,000 Speaker 3: would keep his name, I would keep my name, and 1252 00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:28,160 Speaker 3: our children. 1253 00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:29,520 Speaker 4: Will be named Schultz. 1254 00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:30,440 Speaker 8: Which one? 1255 00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:31,000 Speaker 4: Which one? 1256 00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:31,880 Speaker 8: Is that exactly? 1257 00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:34,200 Speaker 4: But then they could choose whatever they like once they 1258 00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:34,800 Speaker 4: turn it toe. 1259 00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:39,080 Speaker 8: Wow, you're giving them really two yes, small doors here, 1260 00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:40,000 Speaker 8: all right, children. 1261 00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:42,720 Speaker 1: I'm really holding out that the kids pick something funny. 1262 00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:44,440 Speaker 8: I really hope. Yeah, It's like I really hope the 1263 00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:45,240 Speaker 8: kids pick Schultz. 1264 00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:47,959 Speaker 4: Yeah. Wow, but Opie finishes off. 1265 00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:50,360 Speaker 3: As for his mom, it was clear after we kept 1266 00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:53,280 Speaker 3: talking during the first argument that made make my first 1267 00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:55,920 Speaker 3: post that he hadn't even thought about it. He told 1268 00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:58,440 Speaker 3: me yesterday that thinking about his mom made him change 1269 00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:01,120 Speaker 3: his mind because he had never seen any problems come 1270 00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:03,560 Speaker 3: between his parents that were caused by a last name. 1271 00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:05,920 Speaker 3: After we did some more talking, he let me know 1272 00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:09,040 Speaker 3: that he felt weird, partially because it wouldn't feel like 1273 00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:11,080 Speaker 3: a family, but he didn't need to look beyond his 1274 00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:13,600 Speaker 3: own parents to see that was untrue. But that's the 1275 00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:14,200 Speaker 3: end story.