1 00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: Quality dams. But Joseph's gotten more. There are a lot 2 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: of things, you know, in our history in America that 3 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: are associated with the Mississippi River. It cuts through the 4 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 1: center of America, essentially. I'm sure some people will dispute 5 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:26,159 Speaker 1: that because it's not the absolute geographic center, but for me, 6 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: it's the center. It's actually the region that I was 7 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: born into, and I have a certain affection for it. 8 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: The landscape doesn't vary too much to get way way 9 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: way up north. It's hot, sticky, and very humid, particularly 10 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 1: in the summer. You draw flies, you draw gnats, you 11 00:00:53,080 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: draw skeeters. But something has occurred this week within almost 12 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: a stone's throw of Old Man River, and it is 13 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 1: an absolute horror show that police are feverishly working right 14 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: now up in northwest Tennessee. I'm talking about a quadruple 15 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: homicide involving four people, obviously quadruple, and also one baby 16 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:40,479 Speaker 1: that was left abandoned in a yard. I'm Joseph Scott 17 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: Morgan and this is body Bags, Dave. I wanted to 18 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: cover this case. You know, I guess every case that 19 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: we cover on body Bags is tragic, but something you know, 20 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: you know how you and I love babies. I mean, 21 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: we do. It's it's something I can't run from. It's 22 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: something I refuse to run from. And when I heard 23 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: the story of this little angel that was left in 24 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: a car seat out in somebody, and it's been kind 25 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: of murky, been found in a car seat at the 26 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: end of a driveway or in a yard, and those 27 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: two things have been kind of fuzzy. And that's who 28 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: in the world would do this, Joe. 29 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 2: When you have an eyewitness statement, okay, that actually says 30 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 2: the type of vehicle they saw dropping off the infant 31 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 2: in the car seat, and they are opposites. It's either 32 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 2: a dark colored minivan or a white suv. There's a 33 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 2: big difference between those two types of vehicles. And certainly 34 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 2: those two colors, even if you're color blind, you can 35 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 2: tell dark and light. And yet those are That shows 36 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 2: you how eyewitness accounts very I know that's a very 37 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 2: dramatic look at it, but that is the truth that 38 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 2: eyewitness accounts are. They're only good to give you an 39 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 2: idea of something. The one thing we do know is 40 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 2: that nine to one one is called Hey, a baby 41 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 2: is abandoned in my yard at the end of the driveway. 42 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 2: Here and as police show up, and you know, they 43 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 2: come and check out the baby, which, by the way, 44 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 2: baby is fine, perfect health. Yes, but this is an infant, 45 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 2: this is a newborn. And yet the first thought that 46 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 2: crosses a lot of our minds is, I hate to 47 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 2: say this, a mother dropped the baby off. You know, 48 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 2: you know, we hear stories of moms doing amazing things 49 00:03:55,920 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 2: to incredible, horrible things with babies. And that's the first 50 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 2: thought that I had in my head. 51 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: And well, I think I think any any reasonable person 52 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: would come to that conclusion. And David, look there, I 53 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: got to tell you. Let me tell you something real quick. 54 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 1: There are cases that I come across that I want 55 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: to pitch to you. There's something within me when I 56 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: see them and they're so horrific. I think, well, is 57 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: this going to have utility for what we do on 58 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 1: body bags? And I guess to a certain degree. But 59 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 1: there's just certain these cases where I learn about, uh, 60 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: where I'll find, you know, a child that's literally I 61 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: mean I'm talking when I say child, I mean infant 62 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 1: that's tossed into a dumpster where they find the baby later, 63 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 1: or they'll you know, in a garbage can, dumpsters, bathrooms, 64 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: and the Internet is littered with these stories and it 65 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: happens with great frequency. But there was something different about 66 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: this in the sense that you've got a baby in 67 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: a car seat, which was you know, first off, it 68 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: implies and then you've got the eyewitness stuff going on 69 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: where it implies that you've got a child being conveyed 70 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: by a very kind of non specific vehicle where they 71 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: was a child actually strapped into that vehicle. And I 72 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: agree with you, because baby strapped into car seats that 73 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:42,919 Speaker 1: are placed on the road, I'm automatically going to think, 74 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:47,359 Speaker 1: like you that this is a parental abandonment kind of 75 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:52,919 Speaker 1: thing going on. Here said abandonment, Yeah, yeah, and you 76 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: know it's but it appears that that's not what we're 77 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 1: dealing with here, Man. 78 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 2: And Joe when we were dig into this. Now, yeah, 79 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 2: they're trying to figure out this abandoned infant, and you know, 80 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 2: they start with zero, who is this baby? Now, I'm 81 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 2: going to guess from an investigative standpoint, they're going to 82 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 2: I immediately recognize that the baby is in the last 83 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 2: couple of months old, So they're going to call for 84 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 2: birthing records in the area. They're going to call hospitals 85 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 2: and find out the different children who have been born. 86 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 2: And we're talking about northwest or Northwest Tennessee, very rural area, 87 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 2: so they're probably going to be able to identify fairly 88 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 2: quickly within a couple of different people whose baby it is. 89 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 2: And I'm sure that's how they came about starting the investigation. 90 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 2: But a second nine to one one call comes in, 91 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 2: and this is where it really takes a left hand turn, 92 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 2: because now we have an abandoned baby, but we have 93 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 2: a fan family massacred found in well, we know very little. 94 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 2: We just know there are four dead people that have 95 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 2: been found in a wooded area, a very rural area, 96 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 2: again about forty miles now from where the baby was, 97 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 2: and they're dead. We don't know how. We just know 98 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 2: there's four people dead. And the question is are the 99 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 2: four people found dead related to the infant? I don't 100 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 2: know how you begin to tie that together. 101 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: Well, I think actually it might be a bit more 102 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: simple than we think you. First off, you have to 103 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: consider and this is kind of an obvious one here 104 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: you have to consider is mom and nearby? Okay? And 105 00:07:56,040 --> 00:08:01,239 Speaker 1: is there a female among these man ask her victims 106 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: that would fall within age range of having having given 107 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: birth to a child of this age. And as it 108 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: turns out, we've got two females that are well within 109 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: the ranges. Uh, one a bit on the high end 110 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: and one kind of right in that sweet spot when 111 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: you think about uh, women giving birth and and this 112 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: is listen, this is a healthy baby. When you see 113 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: for people that have not seen the images of this 114 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: precious angel, this child has not missed a meal. I mean, 115 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: this child is robust looking. Uh. Somebody has cared for 116 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: this child along the way. And you you know, you're 117 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: going to try to connect the dots here and try 118 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 1: to understand, well these people that have died have when 119 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: you begin to get them identified, you go out and say, hey, 120 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: is you know this young lady given birth in the 121 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: last year or so last two years, and you begin 122 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: to put that together. You know, I guess you know, 123 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 1: let's just say, let's go back to the idea that 124 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 1: this was an abandoned child and you didn't have the 125 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: four bodies. Then you get off into this idea, well, 126 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: how are you going to get this child identified? And 127 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: there have been cases in our history day where there 128 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: are abandoned children that they never knew. You know who 129 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: the parents were. The children were just abandoned, and you 130 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: know where you know all these old stories of babies 131 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: being left on the stoop of a church or on 132 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:43,839 Speaker 1: a door. You know, there's a quick knock and then 133 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: the person flees into the darkness. It kind of envelops them, you. 134 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:56,439 Speaker 2: Know, Joe, as as you and I have done these 135 00:09:56,480 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 2: shows and I figured out and investigat techniques that you 136 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 2: guys used to have to use. I'm wondering how quickly 137 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 2: social media comes into play. Because if you've got a 138 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 2: child an infinite less than a year old, ye, and 139 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 2: you have an idea of who the person is that 140 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:18,959 Speaker 2: might have given birth, you go online. You're just searching 141 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 2: names now and on social media, you know, pictures are 142 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 2: going to pop up. A mom in this day and 143 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 2: age has baby pit photos on site and everything else 144 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 2: and other family members. So that just kind of hit me. 145 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 2: You know that this is one of those things where 146 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 2: social media actually can an aside to helping identify the family, And. 147 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, it can, and I think that you know, and 148 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: now investigative agencies have entire sections that are devoted to 149 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 1: searching social media. Oh yeah, I don't think people truly 150 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 1: understand depth and breadth here, Joe. 151 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 2: You know what, when we're doing researching for journalists too, 152 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 2: back in the day, we would like, you get a 153 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 2: name of somebody. And I'm not kidding when I tell 154 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:07,839 Speaker 2: you this. A lot of times when you're trying to 155 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 2: find a family member, you actually would go to the 156 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 2: phone book that was this huge thing that was really 157 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 2: thick and had a lot of pages half of yellow, 158 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 2: and you're at and we're looking there and identical and 159 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 2: you find names that are similar. It's like watch the 160 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 2: First Terminator movie, and that's how we used to find 161 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 2: to find names. I'm looking for Joseph Scott Morgan. I 162 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 2: got a js Morgan. I got a Joe Morgan. I 163 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 2: got a Scott Morgan. You just start calling all of 164 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 2: them until you find the person you're looking for. Now 165 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 2: you're at your desk and in five minutes time, you 166 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 2: can have somebody's credit history pulled. 167 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, it's an amazing tool and it plays 168 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,319 Speaker 1: a big role I think in this case. And I 169 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 1: am you know, I'm guilty at charge here because I 170 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: put up images, you know, on my social media. But 171 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: one of the things I have done when my granda 172 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 1: because we're really young. Was uh, you know, I put 173 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:09,559 Speaker 1: pictures of them sitting in my lap, okay constantly, and 174 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:15,079 Speaker 1: that's just me. That's not like my daughter or my wife, 175 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 1: you know who really you know, poured those pictures in 176 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: And that's where you have to start. I think in 177 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: a case like this, given the tools that you have today, 178 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: because here's the reality, whatever prompted this massacre. You've got 179 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: a community in a region that has been rocked by this. 180 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: But let's not forget there's a baby out there who 181 00:12:45,600 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: was left abandoned and their life is forever changed. Well, 182 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 1: one mystery solved, Dave. You know, we were talking about 183 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: social media, how exactly did this go down? Because this 184 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:17,719 Speaker 1: is this is not just about getting a baby identified. 185 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: This is following investigative bread crumb's at this point in time, 186 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: and this baby, oh lord, I hate to say this, 187 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: but this baby is a big, big clue here and 188 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: what kind of transpired relative to to how this went down? 189 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 2: Law enforcement says the baby was identified with the help 190 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 2: of community members. So you know, an abandoned baby is 191 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 2: going to have they're going to have a picture posted online. 192 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 2: Help us identify this this baby. And it didn't take long. 193 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 2: So they just said community members responded. So that's that's 194 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 2: how they saw it. Now they knew right away, okay, 195 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 2: from the community members that they knew they wanted to 196 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 2: speak to three different people. Courtney Rose, Matthew Wilson, and 197 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 2: Adrianna Williams. Those were the three names closely associated with 198 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 2: this child. Adriana and Matthew are the parents biological mom 199 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 2: and dad. Adriana's twenty, Matthew's twenty one. Courtney Rose is 200 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 2: thirty eight. She is the grandmother of the little baby 201 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 2: found and the mother of Adriana. And that's how when 202 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 2: you started off at the top and we're talking about 203 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 2: the ages of the people found and how they could 204 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 2: have been. You know, you've got Courtney Rose at thirty eight, 205 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 2: certainly within the realm of possibility at thirty eight year 206 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 2: old would have a baby, and Adriana at twenty certainly 207 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 2: right there. So that's where the investigation. And again something 208 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 2: that I was going to say twenty years ago, but 209 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 2: really twenty thirty years ago wouldn't have happened this way. 210 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 2: It would have taken longer, I would think, to identify 211 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 2: the baby, you know, and who the variants were. 212 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, isn't that amazing Because listen there and I'll go 213 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: ahead and you know, do a big reveal here, Dave. 214 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: These individuals that are found, these massacre victims, for lack 215 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: of a better term, I think that there was specific 216 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: intent to conceal them, okay, and it just so happens 217 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: that they're found and that the baby is identified. This 218 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: I think that the idea of concealing the bodies so 219 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: that a perpetrator or possible perpetrate tours and keep that 220 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: in mind here have an opportunity to put as much 221 00:15:55,160 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: distance between themselves and what they have left behind. Now 222 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: that timeline for this individual has been completely thwarted because 223 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: this was kind of quickly resolved as far as identification goes, 224 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: and once you can you know, I've always I've always 225 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: held to this proposition, Dave, in death investigation that some 226 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: people I think that they believe that they believe that well, 227 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: if you can tell me what happened to the dead, 228 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: that's going to help us expedite solvent of the crime. 229 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: I submit to you. More important to that than that 230 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: and what Trump's everything is identification of the dead, because 231 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: if an investigator is armed with information about a subject, 232 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: relative to their id All of a sudden, particularly when 233 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: you're talking about homicide, all of a sudden, all those 234 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: little pieces begin to fit together relative to who is 235 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 1: in the intimate circle. You know, it's all finding good 236 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 1: to try to diagnose things and and draw conclusions of 237 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 1: physical evidence. You know that the physical evidence leaves behind 238 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 1: the scene. But more importantly, I think, is who is 239 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 1: this person? Okay? Because if you can figure out who 240 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: it is, and Dave, we're you know, the term massacre 241 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 1: keeps getting thrown out there. And also they're using the 242 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 1: term execution style. I've read that when you begin to 243 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 1: think about who who has this much anger that they're 244 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 1: going to point it at directed at these four souls, 245 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 1: and how are these four souls connected to the one 246 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: individual that may have may have been the executioner? If 247 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: you will. I think that that's that's an important point here. 248 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 2: And one of the things, you know, two of the 249 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 2: things that we're still hanging on the breeze right now 250 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 2: and trying to cover this story because it's a curren. 251 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 2: We've been told two different things about the vehicle that 252 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 2: drop the infant off, either you know, the dark minivan 253 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 2: or the white suv. But then different reports say that 254 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 2: the bodies the massacre, the bodies were found in a home. 255 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 2: We are talking outside of Memphis, Tennessee. To give you 256 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 2: an idea baby is found about twenty five miles north 257 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 2: of Memphis. The massacred family members about forty miles from 258 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 2: that site. So just to give you a I'm good, 259 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 2: I'd like to picture a map in my head of 260 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 2: where we're talking about. And the thing is is that 261 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 2: when the police go to investigate the family members that 262 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 2: they believe are related to this infant. Remember, at the 263 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 2: time they're looking for the family members, they only have 264 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 2: a baby that's been abandoned in one hundred degree heat 265 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 2: and then three o'clock in the afternoon, hottest part of 266 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 2: the day. Smell, yes, in a seven month old baby. 267 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:11,959 Speaker 2: So they're trying to find mom, dad, grandma. Where are 268 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 2: these people who supposedly take care of this infant. And 269 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 2: so they go to the house the address they have. Now, 270 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 2: do they find the bodies in the house or do 271 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 2: they find the bodies in two vehicles that we saw 272 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 2: being removed from the woods at a dead end road. 273 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, yep, And anytime I hear dead end road, Dave, 274 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:45,479 Speaker 1: oh buddy, and a deposit of this magnitude at the 275 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: end of that dead end road that just screams familiarity 276 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: to me. Yes, because I got to tell you, I 277 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,919 Speaker 1: don't know how many dead end roads you've driven down, 278 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: and I don't want to know metaphorically because you and 279 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: I could match stories relative to in reality. You know, 280 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 1: if you're driving, if you're driving along and do you 281 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 1: you know you hit a dead end, Well, unless you 282 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: know somebody that lives on that road, or maybe you're 283 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: considering buying property out in a rural area, you have 284 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: no reason to go down to dead end road. Maybe 285 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 1: if you're a deer hunter and you're going to pull 286 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: off at the end of it. But what what do 287 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: you gain? What do you gain by going down to 288 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: dead end road? And why why this? Well? I think 289 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: that a big part of this, Dave, is concealment. It's 290 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 1: to take take someone and or some people and dump 291 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 1: them in this particular area. My thing is, and what's 292 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 1: so curious about this case, Dave, is that if you've 293 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: got two vehicles, and each vehicle has two bodies, and 294 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:04,120 Speaker 1: you have got a baby that was in another vehicle 295 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 1: and that baby is dumped out of said vehicle on 296 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: vehicle speeds away. How do you pull that off? You say, yeah, 297 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: how do you pull that off? By yourself? So I 298 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: think that probably in my estimation at least uh, there 299 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 1: is going to be a lot more revealed about potential 300 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: perpetrate tours, again in the plural sense as opposed to singularly, 301 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 1: because I just don't see this as being an event 302 00:21:40,359 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: that one individual could pull off. The question is, of course, why, Lord, 303 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,959 Speaker 1: I just misspoke, Dave, I used the I used the 304 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 1: Y word, and I hate why? Maybe what? What's the motivation? 305 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: What happened? Because I'm thinking about these these vehicles, every 306 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:22,479 Speaker 1: every bit of this area where and it's the TBI 307 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,880 Speaker 1: of the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation, which by the way, 308 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: is a gam up organization. I mean they they for 309 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 1: years and years they had to conducted investigations with fewer 310 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: resources and a lot of state police, and they've kind 311 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:43,159 Speaker 1: of jumped ahead now. They're very, very good at what 312 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: they do. 313 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 2: I will tell you, Joe. They also are very accessible 314 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 2: to the media. They have their own have their own 315 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 2: PR machine, and I mean that in a good way, 316 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 2: because one of the best ways to solve anything is 317 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 2: to get the word out to get pictures out that 318 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 2: people can identify with. And that's exactly what happened here. Now, 319 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 2: at this point, beyond local sheriff's departments, you've got the TBI, 320 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 2: the FBI, and US Marshall Service because they have identified 321 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 2: a suspect. And you and I were talking about the 322 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:21,880 Speaker 2: suspect a little while ago off the air, and I'm 323 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 2: to be perfectly clear, I believe in second chances. I 324 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 2: believe in people turning their lives around. 325 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: Yep. 326 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 2: But this person of interest suspect now, his name is 327 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 2: Austin Drummond. Austin Drummond if you start at the end here, 328 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 2: starting at the end, we have Austin Drummond is a 329 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 2: friend of the family. Austin Drummond dated the all. But 330 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,120 Speaker 2: this is going to get so confusing, and I apologize 331 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 2: for that. 332 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,199 Speaker 1: But no, no, it is confused. It's layered. 333 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 2: My mother's name is Courtney Rose. He's thirty eight. Austin Drummond, 334 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 2: who is twenty eight, dated Courtney Rose's sister. He became 335 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 2: familiar with the family due to that relationship, and now 336 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,120 Speaker 2: that he's been named a suspect in this the family 337 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:25,360 Speaker 2: is just beside themselves so family members are saying, he's 338 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 2: the nicest guy. We love him, we thought he loved us. 339 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 2: We know they are just dumbfounded, Joe. They really are 340 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 2: looking at this and saying, what happened? We don't know, 341 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 2: but we know that a couple hours after the baby 342 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 2: was identified, you know, police are knocking on the door 343 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 2: in Tiptonville, Tennessee, and they either found the victims in 344 00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 2: the house or they found the victim in two vehicles 345 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:03,880 Speaker 2: down the road in the woods. 346 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 1: Yep. 347 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 2: Now I say that because again, right before we started taping, 348 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 2: you were talking about Kim has really been focused on this. 349 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 1: She had. Yeah, and I'll go right up front, Yeah, 350 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: that woman loves babies, probably more than I do. But yeah, 351 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 1: and that's that's a lot. But go ahead. 352 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,400 Speaker 2: Well, she and I both noticed this when we saw 353 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 2: Kim and I noticed the same thing when we saw 354 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 2: video of the vehicles being pulled out of the woods. 355 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 2: We saw them trailered on the back of vehicles. I 356 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:40,919 Speaker 2: was looking to see if they had them covered, if 357 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 2: they had tarps over the cars, and I didn't see that. 358 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 2: I didn't see any sign of blood on the vehicles. 359 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 2: I didn't see windows blown out. I didn't see anything. 360 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 2: So the way it's been explained to us is that 361 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 2: the bodies were discovered in a home. That's what's been said, 362 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 2: is being reported. I don't know, it doesn't it does 363 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,880 Speaker 2: matter in the grand scheme of things, but right now 364 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 2: they had they being The police haven't told us any 365 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 2: real specifics other than they're looking for a convicted fella 366 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 2: in Austin Drummond and they have already charged him with murder, 367 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 2: attempted murder, and drug crimes. And there are some weapons 368 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 2: charges here too. One of the charges is having a 369 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 2: weapon during the commission of a felony. So, even though 370 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 2: they're not telling us how the victims died, I don't 371 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 2: believe it's a big leap to believe they were shot, 372 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 2: and the fact that it's been mentioned execution style, I'm 373 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 2: thinking shots to the head. Is that a fair assumption, 374 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,159 Speaker 2: Joe or really going to I. 375 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: Think that it is, because I don't know. I mean, 376 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: I guess you could. You could come up with other 377 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,919 Speaker 1: methodologies for, you know, ending someone's life. Obviously that's an 378 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 1: obvious statement, but it's seems to be the most expedient. 379 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: And I'm still amazed that we only have one at 380 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 1: this point in time, suspect that, by the way, as 381 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 1: of this recording, he is out out there somewhere. It's 382 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 1: a terrifying set of circumstances. Even though the police have said, 383 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 1: and I saw this early on, they said that the 384 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:34,640 Speaker 1: public are not to be alarmed by this, and that's 385 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:39,880 Speaker 1: that's Morgan's phraseology. I think you should be alarmed about 386 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: this because if this individual is associated with a massacre 387 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 1: and they are out running the streets at this point 388 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: in time, first off, they're desperate, and they're probably armed. 389 00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 1: And if it's this fellow who they suspect that it 390 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 1: might might be associated with this, This Drummond fellow, Dave. 391 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 1: He just got out of the joint. 392 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 2: Last year, last September, last. 393 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:14,120 Speaker 1: September, and he got out. He had been I think 394 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: it was armed robbery. 395 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:16,199 Speaker 2: It was. 396 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 1: He had served time for he was. 397 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 2: Convicted on twenty fourteen of armed robbery and he just 398 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 2: got released last September. 399 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and he was a very young person when he 400 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:28,199 Speaker 1: went into the joint for that. 401 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 2: He's only twenty eight. 402 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,679 Speaker 1: Now, yeah, he's only twenty eight, so you figure, you know, 403 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: you do the arithmetic here, but yeah, I mean, he 404 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 1: was very young. When he went in and now he's out. 405 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: In twenty twenty. 406 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 2: Four, Joe, two months after he got out, Yeah, he 407 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 2: was arrested again. And before I get into that, you 408 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 2: actually have seen pictures of Austin Drummond's prison cell. Yeah, 409 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 2: as an investigator, what does his prison cell tell you 410 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 2: about the convict that occupies as a base. 411 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 1: Well, he's uh, he's obviously got access to a commsary 412 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 1: and funds. Because there's one image and the image actually 413 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: that I saw comes from the Sun. Wink wink on 414 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:27,959 Speaker 1: you know the Sun, and uh, he has access to commsary. 415 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: H he's got stuff just stacked in there, I mean food, 416 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 1: other items. But the one disturbing image that he that 417 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: the Sun has published is he's standing there with I 418 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 1: guess a fella selly. I guess it's in there, and 419 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 1: he is there and I never know how to pronounce this, 420 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: this name of this this vodka. But they're holding actually 421 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: a bottle of vodka in the joint and you, well. 422 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 2: It's not it's not like you're saying it's vodka, but 423 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 2: it's in a clear bottle. It's actually a vodka bottle 424 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 2: with a label on it. 425 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And so that's that's one of the things 426 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: you know that. I mean, look, you got to do. 427 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 1: What you got to do is survive in the joint. 428 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: But I'm thinking about this, and I'm thinking, well, he's 429 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 1: not afraid of breaking rules, particularly if he's allowing himself 430 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 1: to be photographed with this. This is a contraband and so. 431 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think about that. Totally totally went past me. 432 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: Joe. Yes, it's problematic. 433 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 2: So he handed one to ten with Forrest Gump over here, 434 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 2: I mean he's below. 435 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 1: That, Yeah, yeah, exactly. He just he he just doesn't 436 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 1: care coming Joe. Yeah, that's that's the thing about it. 437 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 1: He just has nothing left to you know. 438 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. Two months, two months after he's released, he completed 439 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 2: his sentence. He charged. Two more months again after his release, 440 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 2: he's charged with attempted murder and drug crimes. The allegations 441 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 2: he was out on parole are out on probation. No, 442 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 2: what is it parole? Right? 443 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 1: Yea po. 444 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 2: And he was out on bond on those charges. That's 445 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 2: what I was trying to get to. So you've got 446 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 2: a guy who completed his sentence ten years he was 447 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 2: a charge, is convicted in twenty fourteen. It's out last 448 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 2: September of twenty twenty four, after ten years, and then 449 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 2: two months later he's charged again with trying to kill 450 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 2: somebody and he's out on bond on that charge. When 451 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 2: he is the suspect now not could be somebody different. 452 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 2: It could be bad timing on his part. Maybe he is. 453 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 2: Maybe he just took off and he's actually gambling in 454 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 2: Vegas or doing whatever. You know, he's on the beach 455 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 2: somewhere chilling, and somebody else did this. Hain't his crime. 456 00:31:55,960 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 2: Now all of the family members of the massacre victims 457 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 2: are saying, we liked him, thought he liked us, didn't 458 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 2: know there was a problem. So they're all shocked by 459 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 2: this as well. No telling what happened. The police are 460 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 2: not telling us how the victims were murdered. Joe. But 461 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 2: based on what you've been told and the charges, the 462 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 2: fact that he's charged with a convicted felon in possession 463 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 2: of a firearm during the commission of a felony, is 464 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 2: that lean in the direction they were shot? 465 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 1: Well, I don't know, you know, does he have access 466 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 1: to a firearm? And I guess, going back to what 467 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 1: you had said, Dave, one of my big questions here 468 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 1: is What the hell is he doing walking the streets 469 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 1: because he's violated at this point in Tom, he's a 470 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: convicted felon and you're looking at he's been hooked up 471 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 1: on charges as a suspect in an tempted murder. And 472 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 1: why is he breathing free air? I don't understand, and 473 00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 1: that's a question for another day. 474 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 2: But I know you're talking sucking in generalities. Why was 475 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 2: he out at all? But Joe, Austin Drummond has been caught. 476 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 2: He's accused of killing the four people we've been talking 477 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 2: about and dumping the infant off in a driveway. While 478 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 2: Austin Drummond was on the LAMB, authorities had arrested three 479 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 2: other people who are all charged with the same thing, 480 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 2: accessory after the fact, the first degree murder. Dearra Sanders 481 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 2: was arrested Monday before that, to Knock A. Brown and 482 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 2: Giovanni Thomas were arrested, and finally Austin Drummond has been captured. 483 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 1: We're going to keep you up to speed on this 484 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 1: case as it develops. I got to tell you, I'm 485 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 1: incredibly intrigued about this. I want to know more about 486 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 1: this baby, in particular, I want to know that the 487 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 1: I want to be reassured that the baby is okay. 488 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: I'm sure that the baby is, but I want to 489 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 1: know how the baby plays in to this horrific set 490 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 1: of circumstances, because this is I think probably a family's 491 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 1: worst nightmare come to fruition. I'm Joseph Scott Morgan, and 492 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,280 Speaker 1: this is body Backs.