Speaker 1: This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1: Chris Harrison and Lauren Zema coming to you from the
Speaker 1: home office in Austin, Texas. We have a day full
Speaker 1: of headlines and we have so much to cover today.
Speaker 2: I wish that we could start by talking about the
Speaker 2: True Detective Siri. No, sorry, not series season finale. Yes,
Speaker 2: but you wouldn't watch the show with me. This is
Speaker 2: huge on HBO. By the way, season finale knows watched.
Speaker 2: Season finale was Sunday night. You've skipped an entire season.
Speaker 2: I've now learned. You've never watched anywhere.
Speaker 1: Speaking an entire franchise, I haven't watched. I didn't even
Speaker 1: watch the one because the big one was what Matthew
Speaker 1: McConaughey and his brother.
Speaker 2: Harrelson ten years ago. It came out this year and
Speaker 2: you're you're ten years late? Are You're not going to
Speaker 2: even try?
Speaker 1: Look, you know, I just jumped into the office, So
Speaker 1: that's true. And I was like thirteen years late on
Speaker 1: Game of Thrones. So just give me time. You know,
Speaker 1: by the time we're fifty, you know, you're fifty, I'll
Speaker 1: be what sixty something, We'll I'll jump into it.
Speaker 3: You're seeing in twenty years? What is the math?
Speaker 1: No, okay, everybody is talking about it, so I know
Speaker 1: I'm missing out. Are these sequential? I know they change
Speaker 1: stars and all that. Do I need to go all
Speaker 1: the way back and watch them.
Speaker 2: No, each season stands alone. I'll be honest. I was
Speaker 2: not a fan of season two. I don't even think
Speaker 2: I ever finished it. So true Detectives had some ups
Speaker 2: and downs. Like the first season Woody here elseon Matthew
Speaker 2: McConaughey absolutely crushed, incredible mystery, a little scary. Second season
Speaker 2: was Vince Vaughn and somebody not good.
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you who the big who you
Speaker 1: think the best stars have been?
Speaker 3: Well, definitely season one?
Speaker 1: Sorry tons?
Speaker 2: Yeah, third season Mahershela Ali and Stephen Dorf it was
Speaker 2: pretty good. And then fourth season Jody Foster and a
Speaker 2: newcomer whose name I'm forgetting so I'm gonna look her up.
Speaker 3: But she's incredible. I think she's even kind of new
Speaker 3: to acting.
Speaker 2: But each season stands on its own, and there are
Speaker 2: some little nods that like kind of connect them, but
Speaker 2: it's totally a standalone story. You don't need to have
Speaker 2: seen them to understand the other seasons, and.
Speaker 3: It's so good and it's doing really well for HBO.
Speaker 2: And what makes me happy about it too is that
Speaker 2: it's been a show that's on every week, like not
Speaker 2: being dropped just to binge. Like, so my sister and
Speaker 2: mom and I have been watching it and talking about it.
Speaker 1: Okay, So if you're gonna plug what you're watching while
Speaker 1: you look that up, I agree, because I've been watching
Speaker 1: Masters of the Year on Apple.
Speaker 3: Is this the show about World War Two?
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, it's based around World War Two.
Speaker 3: The pilots, world War two content.
Speaker 1: By the way, yes, I do this. This comes from Hanks,
Speaker 1: the playtone crew, Spielberg. So the best, hands down mini
Speaker 1: series ever was Band of Brothers, based on our invasion
Speaker 1: of World War Two, the Greatest Generation from D Day on.
Speaker 1: Then they took it to the Pacific, which was also good,
Speaker 1: but Band of Brothers was hands down the best ever.
Speaker 1: The same crew is now doing taking it to the Air.
Speaker 1: It's kind of Band of Brothers, of our pilots and
Speaker 1: our bombers. It is just gut wrenching, brutal. But to
Speaker 1: your point, I like it's Friday to Friday. Every Friday,
Speaker 1: a new episode drops the anticipation. My boys and night.
Speaker 1: We talk about it at the golf course, and it's
Speaker 1: fun to kind of have something you have to anticipate
Speaker 1: and look forward to it, and it gives you a
Speaker 1: week to kind of take in what you just saw
Speaker 1: because it's heavy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well and true to you know what kind of
Speaker 2: Similarly true Detective is a mystery, So you're kind of
Speaker 2: processing analyzing the episode and you get a lot more
Speaker 2: out of it mentally than if you would just sit
Speaker 2: and binge it all and like get the answer right away.
Speaker 1: Gain.
Speaker 3: I liked trying to figure it out.
Speaker 1: What I did to Game of Thrones was should be illegal.
Speaker 1: I watched so much of it so quickly you're not
Speaker 1: meant to ingest it like that. I was getting years
Speaker 1: and years, decades of performances, casting changes. You know, it
Speaker 1: was too much.
Speaker 2: The TV is that good when it's on that scope
Speaker 2: and it's of that quality acting writing. Again, if something's
Speaker 2: like a mystery, you wanted to unveil slowly. You want
Speaker 2: to enjoy it and savor it, and you want to
Speaker 2: discuss it with people. And when that TikTok trend was
Speaker 2: going around of guys thinking about the Roman Empire all
Speaker 2: the time. Yeah, and people were like, why do women
Speaker 2: were finding out that they're straight? Male partners thought about
Speaker 2: the Roman Empire?
Speaker 1: How often do you think about the Roman Empire?
Speaker 2: I thought that was a little misguided. I think it's
Speaker 2: World War two.
Speaker 1: I don't know anybody that ever thinks about the Roman
Speaker 1: Empire that. I don't know who thought that up, because
Speaker 1: that's nobody. I would say, zero, nobody world War two.
Speaker 1: There's not a man around of adult age that doesn't
Speaker 1: think about World War Two five times a week.
Speaker 3: What is the interest factor?
Speaker 1: The interest factor was and is especially for people my age,
Speaker 1: is it was not that long before we were all born.
Speaker 1: I mean it's you know, we're talking thirty years separated.
Speaker 1: So people are our grandfathers, some of our fathers, even
Speaker 1: if they were old enough, were involved in this, and
Speaker 1: it was it was just so impactful, obviously the Holocaust
Speaker 1: and everything that went into all of World War Two,
Speaker 1: and then it obviously going into the Pacific theater. It
Speaker 1: was just something that still mesmerises and captures our generation
Speaker 1: on a lot of levels. It's just something honestly, when
Speaker 1: I watch I just see these young men, I'm just
Speaker 1: I am so amazed, and I'm thinking about this generation
Speaker 1: of We talked about this at lunch. We literally talked
Speaker 1: about World War Two at lunch today with me and friends. Yeah,
Speaker 1: me and our friends. There was four of us, and
Speaker 1: I said, you know, honestly, and it's I'm not dogging
Speaker 1: on this generation, but I'm like, what would happen with
Speaker 1: this generation if they had to go to war? Like
Speaker 1: the Greatest generation storming the beaches of Normandy or in
Speaker 1: this case Masters of the Air. They knew ninety percent
Speaker 1: chance going up on these missions, they weren't coming back.
Speaker 3: And these are kids eighteen ninets.
Speaker 1: Are eighteen to twenty five year old men that are
Speaker 1: pilots in bombardiers and gunneries, you know, in the It's
Speaker 1: just it's crazy how brave these men were and how
Speaker 1: they did it day in and day out, and mentally
Speaker 1: what this must have done to them emotionally. I just
Speaker 1: try to put myself in their shoes, and it just
Speaker 1: shakes you to the core.
Speaker 2: It is so interesting when you think about what someone like,
Speaker 2: all the different life places that an adult around like
Speaker 2: age eighteen, nineteen or twenty can be in, like even today,
Speaker 2: and I hear what you're saying my grandfather, I never
Speaker 2: met him. He died before I was born, but he
Speaker 2: fought in World War Two. And when you think of
Speaker 2: I even think about my grandparents on my mom's side,
Speaker 2: who had kids at eighteen, Like you know, but even today,
Speaker 2: you can be eighteen and you might have a child
Speaker 2: and be working in supporting a family, or you might
Speaker 2: be a freshman in college and totally financially dependent on
Speaker 2: your parents. You can lead all sorts of different lives
Speaker 2: entering adulthood. But yeah, it would be interesting to see.
Speaker 2: I mean, God forbid, I hope we don't have a
Speaker 2: war tomorrow, but I just wanted to ask you about it, because,
Speaker 2: for example, I don't think there's the same interest fascination
Speaker 2: with like Vietnam. And I don't know if that's because
Speaker 2: World War Two has so many different I think you're
Speaker 2: also interested in like the way the battles went and
Speaker 2: the strategy and all that well, and.
Speaker 1: Vietnam captured our imaginations for decades too, just because of
Speaker 1: the draft. And when I turned eighteen, you had to
Speaker 1: register for the draft.
Speaker 3: And that's wait, something's hitting me right now. Sorry, I finished.
Speaker 3: I think so that's just it.
Speaker 1: It's something that all of us that.
Speaker 3: So you registered for the draft.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the idea was just commonplace when when I was
Speaker 1: of the agent. I don't know, I don't think you
Speaker 1: still do, like I don't know if Joshua did. But
Speaker 1: when I turned eighteen, you know, you get your license,
Speaker 1: you get the voting and all that stuff, and then
Speaker 1: you would register for the draft. And obviously that has
Speaker 1: not happened since Vietnam and our country, and you think
Speaker 1: about what's happening in Ukraine right now, and they're forcing
Speaker 1: people to go to the front lines up to sixty
Speaker 1: years old. It's crazy, but it wasn't that long ago,
Speaker 1: Like you're talking about Vietnam, where we were, you know,
Speaker 1: kind of forced into action and forced into military service
Speaker 1: for our country. And you think about what would happen
Speaker 1: to this generation. And one of the guys I was
Speaker 1: with at launch said, well, that's now they are almost
Speaker 1: playing video games because they're drone pilots and they're you know,
Speaker 1: doing this from thousands of miles away. It's very different warfare,
Speaker 1: very interesting.
Speaker 3: That's true, very different than being their face to face.
Speaker 1: But it's something that stuck with me when I was
Speaker 1: in high school that that was because that was our fathers,
Speaker 1: that was our father's age who were going to Vietnam.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean it's been yeah, it's been a while since.
Speaker 2: I mean again, you're talking about like this generation like
Speaker 2: I was in high school in nine to eleven happened
Speaker 2: and I mean so the Iraq War, Like you know,
Speaker 2: I know people who've my cousin's husbands in the war,
Speaker 2: and so it's that's more. I think millennials still have that.
Speaker 2: But yeah, gen Zers and the generation below them, like
Speaker 2: they have not really lived and felt. I think that's
Speaker 2: maybe why people sort of like find found Ukraine so
Speaker 2: shocking or something almost like as if war couldn't happen anymore,
Speaker 2: because it's been so long since we've been actively part
Speaker 2: of something and where people have had friends or a
Speaker 2: lot of friends in an active war situation. But yeah,
Speaker 2: well that really took a turn. But Okay, here's something
Speaker 2: I think I just figured out. So women, like I'm
Speaker 2: watching True Detective, you're watching this World War two show. Yes,
Speaker 2: I feel like women can get very into true crime.
Speaker 2: We're very into like true crime shows, podcasts, you know, docuseries,
Speaker 2: and then like and I'm totally making broad sweeps here,
Speaker 2: but then men were saying, can be very into World
Speaker 2: War two, and I just realized, maybe it's because of
Speaker 2: like what we think we might face or what we
Speaker 2: grew up, grew up wondering if we might face this
Speaker 2: at some point. That's interesting, Like women are taught be
Speaker 2: afraid walking to your car in a parking garage, you know,
Speaker 2: like your home can get broken into, you can, like
Speaker 2: we're taught to be on guard, and then you grew
Speaker 2: up knowing you'd have to sign up for the draft,
Speaker 2: and like warps at interesting. Okay, we need to consult
Speaker 2: a therapist on this. It makes sense if anyone else
Speaker 2: has thoughts or please please wait. And I'm always interested
Speaker 2: in where our obsessions come from. And if you've been
Speaker 2: watching True Detective, I'm going to try to get you
Speaker 2: to watch I think you'd love season one. And it
Speaker 2: still holds up because even when it came out, it
Speaker 2: was like set in the nineties, so it was always
Speaker 2: if it doesn't feel dated.
Speaker 1: I tried to watch The Mister and Missus Smith Show.
Speaker 3: Didn't love that.
Speaker 2: Man, I love that movie so much. I'm like, I
Speaker 2: didn't really feel like I needed a TV show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was that was upsetting. Didn't didn't make it
Speaker 1: through more than a couple episodes and had to bail.
Speaker 1: It was not pretty okay, what was wrong with it? Everything?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was just it's really slow and just yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, that whole concept, the concept of the movie is
Speaker 2: only long enough for a movie to me, because it
Speaker 2: was like they didn't know each other was a spy,
Speaker 2: and then by the end of the movie they've you know,
Speaker 2: they figured out each other is a spy. So is
Speaker 2: it the same concept for the show?
Speaker 1: This was no, they were kind of cast together to
Speaker 1: be spies and they.
Speaker 2: So then why are we calling mister and missus Smith?
Speaker 2: Why isn't it just new spy show?
Speaker 1: Yeah it should have been. Yeah, I'm not sure because
Speaker 1: it really was.
Speaker 2: Because our industry is obsessed with remakes and sequels and
Speaker 2: we can't ever do anything.
Speaker 1: Gott to have intellectual property, right.
Speaker 2: Even though you know, Oppenheimer and Barbie crushed it. Let's
Speaker 2: talk headlines, you know, right off the bat, I will
Speaker 2: say People's Choice Awards were Sunday night and we didn't
Speaker 2: watch them. I was watching True Detectives, you know what.
Speaker 1: I'm the trend is going well. The ratings were pretty solid,
Speaker 1: and I'm glad to see that award shows are ticking up.
Speaker 1: Speaking of TV and TV fails, did you hear the
Speaker 1: NBC Morning show The Today Show? Kelly Roland was supposed
Speaker 1: to well, she did appear. She was booked for an
Speaker 1: appearance early on, and then she was supposed to stay
Speaker 1: and she was booked to be a co host with
Speaker 1: Hota Kopy in that final hour that's kind of more
Speaker 1: you know, free lifestyle stuff, and Kelly Roland allegedly her
Speaker 1: and her team kind of threw a fit because they
Speaker 1: weren't happy with their green room, with their dressing room
Speaker 1: at NBC, and they walked off. She left, She left
Speaker 1: Hota copy in a lurch, no co host. Long story short,
Speaker 1: they ended up getting Rita Aura, who was there, and
Speaker 1: she said, sure, I'll fill in, and she just stayed.
Speaker 1: Good for you, rit Aura for pick that up and
Speaker 1: just doing that. But so bizarre.
Speaker 2: When I first saw this, I was a little shocked
Speaker 2: because now, and I never say that I know someone
Speaker 2: just from interviewing them, but I've interviewed.
Speaker 3: Kellen rolland a couple of times.
Speaker 2: She was always very nice, did not give me a
Speaker 2: diva vibe at all, And I've never really heard that
Speaker 2: about her in the industry, like she's always I've never
Speaker 2: heard any stories. You know, some people you hear stories,
Speaker 2: but her I never had heard any. And if this
Speaker 2: is true, like I will say, my spidy sense goes
Speaker 2: up a little bit.
Speaker 3: I'm like, is there more of the story? Because it
Speaker 3: does so weird.
Speaker 1: I know it's true. I mean, I know the story
Speaker 1: is true.
Speaker 2: Like you know that she was supposed to host guest
Speaker 2: host and she did not end up guest hosting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I agree this doesn't pass the smell test.
Speaker 1: There is more to this story somewhere. Now. There is
Speaker 1: a weird kind of sub story to this, and that
Speaker 1: is there was a room upstairs that they, I guess
Speaker 1: thought would work and Jennifer Lopez was up there.
Speaker 2: I love how many people were in this building at
Speaker 2: one time. It does speak to it. And let me
Speaker 2: do Kelly Jlo and her.
Speaker 3: Team are in that green room.
Speaker 1: And let's just say, New York those buildings really do suck.
Speaker 1: They are so old. Ur et building, you guys worked
Speaker 1: in a closet the ABE. I've been in the ABC
Speaker 1: building twenty times over the years. I was hosting on
Speaker 1: Good Morning America, the View you name it, they all
Speaker 1: are tiny. I mean even Kelly and Regis, Kelly and
Speaker 1: Ryan now Mark and Kelly, those studios are atrocious. I
Speaker 1: mean you are in a closet and that's Kelly Rippas.
Speaker 3: This is why don't you're tiny?
Speaker 1: They're tiny.
Speaker 3: This is why I don't get it. Because Kelly Roland
Speaker 3: has been in this industry since she was a teenager
Speaker 3: and does she's been on these shows. She knows how
Speaker 3: small these dressing rooms are like. And you're totally right.
Speaker 3: I mean in New York, especially, our et offices are
Speaker 3: like I'm not exaggerating the size of an apartment.
Speaker 1: And when you're on the to Night's show, The Old
Speaker 1: Show with David Letterman there at the Old Theater, that's
Speaker 1: the same office that et us. You guys are right
Speaker 1: above them right now.
Speaker 2: When I say our offices are the size of the apartment,
Speaker 2: I mean picture that one sort of normal size apartment
Speaker 2: is holding like five people's offices, a group of desks
Speaker 2: in a tiny interview room space.
Speaker 3: It's not big there.
Speaker 1: And that's everybody in New York. Nobody's better or worse, ABC, NBCCBS,
Speaker 1: They're all terrible. And that's just because these buildings are
Speaker 1: old and you can't renovate them. So it is what
Speaker 1: it is, and it doesn't matter where you go. Foul
Speaker 1: into late night show. Now, I will say, if you
Speaker 1: come to Hollywood, it's better like Kimmel's bigger, Like his
Speaker 1: rooms were a little bigger because you know, they were
Speaker 1: able to build those theaters later and they could renovate
Speaker 1: them a little different.
Speaker 2: If this is true, if this was the only reason,
Speaker 2: well then I say, I could never imagine walking out
Speaker 2: when I was supposed to go yea guest co host
Speaker 2: live hour of television and leaving people.
Speaker 3: In the lurch.
Speaker 1: I'm just curious why. I was gonna ask you why.
Speaker 2: Because I've been in this industry and I know how
Speaker 2: crazy hard that would be.
Speaker 3: And I know I know that you're throwing off.
Speaker 2: People who wouldn't be at fault for this, Like the
Speaker 2: producers have worked at this, the crew is ready to film,
Speaker 2: all you know, dozens of people.
Speaker 1: You're screwing over a lot of people who had nothing
Speaker 1: to do with anything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's their jobs, and like you know, it's not
Speaker 2: their fault that the dressing room isn't big.
Speaker 3: So I could never imagine doing that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I would love for Kelly Roland to speak
Speaker 1: about this, because I agree there has to be more
Speaker 1: to this story because it just doesn't smell. This doesn't
Speaker 1: pass the smell test. Something something. I hope there's more
Speaker 1: me too. Speaking of j Lo, ben Fleck wrote her
Speaker 1: a bunch of private love letters, and ben Fleck was
Speaker 1: apparently taken aback when his wife j Loo shared with
Speaker 1: other songwriters all those private love letters. Awkwardly enough, Ben
Speaker 1: came home to see all of his love letters being
Speaker 1: passed around to all these other songwriters. J Lo was,
Speaker 1: you know, using these letters. I guess they were the
Speaker 1: impetus for her movie that's coming out, which we have
Speaker 1: to talk about when we watch it.
Speaker 2: This is me now, Yes, So, okay, there is a
Speaker 2: Variety article and I love a good old school celebrity
Speaker 2: profile piece because they so.
Speaker 3: Rarely happen anymore.
Speaker 2: And the reporter is very honest in it, like opens
Speaker 2: up the article saying, you know, Jayload canceled on him
Speaker 2: a couple times. He was finally getting to her house
Speaker 2: to interview her for this new album and documentary and
Speaker 2: film Triple Threat she's releasing. Says that he had to
Speaker 2: sign an NDA when he came on property which she
Speaker 2: didn't really understand because he's there to interview her and
Speaker 2: then publish her answers.
Speaker 3: And it's a fascinating profile.
Speaker 2: And she talks in it about how like nobody understands
Speaker 2: this piece, nobody knew what she was doing. She really
Speaker 2: wanted to tell her love story of her and Ben,
Speaker 2: of her past marriages that didn't work out. So I'm
Speaker 2: fascinated and it's doing well, Like the movie has been
Speaker 2: critically well received, the album is doing well, so props
Speaker 2: to Jlo. She financed the thing herself. I've heard it
Speaker 2: is kind of wild and incomprehensible. But would I be
Speaker 2: mad if I was Ben Affleck and my wife had
Speaker 2: pulled out our love letters?
Speaker 1: Well, you and I, you and I write each other
Speaker 1: letters all the time, and notes and things, And if
Speaker 1: you came home and me and all my boys were
Speaker 1: sitting around drinking beers and passing them around, wouldn't you
Speaker 1: be taken? Aback?
Speaker 2: I you got to clear that with somebody one hundred
Speaker 2: So you know, obviously he's probably aware of their love
Speaker 2: story is the base for like this movie and this album.
Speaker 2: But that's so personal, and to share those love letters
Speaker 2: with a.
Speaker 1: Group of people without you asking no, I couldn't.
Speaker 2: I mean, and Ben apparently even said to her like, well,
Speaker 2: I kind of thought part of the magic here was
Speaker 2: that like this was private, right, and and you're calling
Speaker 2: it you know, he viewed it as the greatest love
Speaker 2: story never told.
Speaker 3: And then I.
Speaker 1: Would be very disappointed in you. I would be upset.
Speaker 3: What are other things?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 3: What are I'm just thinking of?
Speaker 2: I don't know we've talked about this before, because like
Speaker 2: my girlfriends and I'll kind of talk about our relationship
Speaker 2: and like, I'm sure you talk to your friends about
Speaker 2: you know, guys talk about marriage and stuff.
Speaker 3: What is the line?
Speaker 1: Well, here's the difference too, and guys talk to wonder
Speaker 1: about this too. With women, women are much more free
Speaker 1: to talk about your sex life. Men do not.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hear that, but I mean but with I
Speaker 2: mean yes, but like women, it's also I'm thinking, I
Speaker 2: don't I don't want to get too much into like
Speaker 2: the weeds on the sex part of it, because that's
Speaker 2: a whole other conversation. I guess I'm now thinking about
Speaker 2: like intimate personal emotional details, because again I think that's
Speaker 2: something where women share more and probably male partners might
Speaker 2: be annoyed if they knew how much were sharing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, any honestly, there's just things we don't need
Speaker 1: to know. Don't tell us you're telling it all ya, okay,
Speaker 1: Like let us live in ignorant bliss and we don't.
Speaker 1: I don't need to know that you are spilling the
Speaker 1: secrets about every part of my family, the dirtiest, deepest things,
Speaker 1: because look a I think you need to share. I
Speaker 1: think women need to share those things. You need to
Speaker 1: bounce these emotions off somebody. We don't need to know
Speaker 1: that you're doing that. I think everybody wins in this scenario.
Speaker 3: Okay, thank you for giving me that freedom.
Speaker 1: I don't feel like you're lying to me. I don't
Speaker 1: feel like you're you're I think it's important.
Speaker 2: Is to trust your partner, to know that they're going
Speaker 2: to make those good decisions, and if you know them,
Speaker 2: you know how far they'll go. Like the difference for
Speaker 2: me with this Ben and JL thing is that she
Speaker 2: was showing the exact love letters. Like there's some different
Speaker 2: about summarizing versus directly quoting someone I might tell my friends.
Speaker 3: Well, Chris was really upset.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say he said this, and the director just
Speaker 2: to explain.
Speaker 1: Hey, Chris wrote me letters every day leading up to
Speaker 1: our wedding. It really meant a lot to me. He
Speaker 1: really bared his soul whatever. That exactly as opposed to
Speaker 1: laying them out. It's but here's another question too about
Speaker 1: j Lo, because the way you talk about her, she's
Speaker 1: a diva in.
Speaker 3: The best way.
Speaker 1: That's That's what I was going to say. There's certain
Speaker 1: people in this world that I kind of want to
Speaker 1: be a diva. Madonna share j Lo, and there is
Speaker 1: a double standard because if anybody else acted like that,
Speaker 1: they would be called on the carpet and just be
Speaker 1: ripped apart. I'm sorry, that's how I want my j Lo.
Speaker 1: That's just I want her to be a diva. That's
Speaker 1: how I expect her to be. So Joe Manger, the guy.
Speaker 3: Who used to be married to so Fia Vergara.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so they got divorced. They broke up what five
Speaker 1: months ago, and he just went Instagram official with a girlfriend,
Speaker 1: Caitlin O'Connor, also an actress, and apparently they met at
Speaker 1: a party last September and have been dating since then.
Speaker 1: Kind of sounds familiar. They kind of kept things under
Speaker 1: wraps for several months, and they have just gone public
Speaker 1: with their Valentine's Week that they had together. People the
Speaker 1: big question, you know, is this too soon? Moving too quickly? No,
Speaker 1: what's too quickly? What's too quickly?
Speaker 3: Sophia Fragar has been reported to be dating people too well.
Speaker 1: And here's the thing. If Joe, one of the reasons
Speaker 1: he broke up, I think he's in his forties, young forties.
Speaker 1: One of the reasons he broke up and wanted to
Speaker 1: move on is he wants kids.
Speaker 3: And you might be on a faster timeline.
Speaker 1: He might be on a faster timeline. His biological clock
Speaker 1: is ticking. Apparently that's why Sophia Vgar left shouldn't want
Speaker 1: to be an old mom. He wants kids.
Speaker 3: So and Sophia said that herself.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah, I'm not outing anybody. So it's it's
Speaker 1: not the craziest thing that he's probably looking for a partner.
Speaker 2: Nuts I'm always more so looking not so much at
Speaker 2: how quickly you're moving on after a relationship, but how
Speaker 2: quickly you're moving period. And by that I mean I
Speaker 2: just feel like when people break up, we never really
Speaker 2: know what's going on behind closed doors, how long it
Speaker 2: was really falling apart, you know, and no one else
Speaker 2: knew or whatever. To me, it's just more how quickly
Speaker 2: are you moving? Like I will say, I'm not the
Speaker 2: biggest champion of speeding into a relationship. I know, statistically,
Speaker 2: I know very few relationships that have lasted and worked
Speaker 2: out well when people met moved in really quickly, got
Speaker 2: married really quickly. Like I'm just a big believer that
Speaker 2: time helps ensure longevity.
Speaker 1: And you know, I also know that considering what you
Speaker 1: and I did and how much we kept secret and
Speaker 1: behind the scenes until we went public. They you know,
Speaker 1: there's a lot we don't know. We're just seeing the
Speaker 1: tip of the iceberg by this latest post. So I'm
Speaker 1: sure they have done their due diligence. They've spent months together.
Speaker 1: So it's something that comes as a shocking surprise to
Speaker 1: those that are fans of theirs, because oh my god,
Speaker 1: this just happened, and oh they're moving in already, And no,
Speaker 1: they've been. They've been falling in love for months now,
Speaker 1: So good for them. I wish them the best. A
Speaker 1: couple stories about Jason and Travis kelce Taylor Swift. First
Speaker 1: of all, Travis Kelcey was given the honor at the
Speaker 1: People's Choice Awards of the Athlete of the Year, which
Speaker 1: I didn't know they did at the Did they just
Speaker 1: invent that for Travis Kelcey.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Like I said, I'm the People's Choice Awards,
Speaker 2: I truly didn't until I sort of saw it coming
Speaker 2: up on social media yesterday.
Speaker 3: I truly didn't remember that. It was like a thing
Speaker 3: that happened.
Speaker 1: Do you have any thoughts on the Athlete of the Year?
Speaker 3: If I think you as what are we basing that on?
Speaker 1: What are we?
Speaker 3: Oh, it's the People's Choice the words?
Speaker 1: Yeah, who would your athlete of the Year have been?
Speaker 1: Lauren's ema? I can't.
Speaker 2: Mine would have been Travis Kelsey because he's the only
Speaker 2: one I can name, and he's done cool things. He
Speaker 2: just won the Super Bowl, and he's like building a
Speaker 2: dynasty in that way, So that feels like a good
Speaker 2: choice that I could have made. Look, what's interesting to
Speaker 2: me about Travis Kelcey's fame right now is that I
Speaker 2: think it really has the potential for him to create
Speaker 2: now that he's with Taylor a the Rock like career,
Speaker 2: Like he's an entertaining guy's I've seen some clips from
Speaker 2: his podcast.
Speaker 3: He's funny. If he can.
Speaker 2: My prediction is he makes the jump into film and
Speaker 2: television and some additional way. Yeah, and he could crush
Speaker 2: it there. And to me, that's great, Like I'd love
Speaker 2: to see more of that. I can't really think of
Speaker 2: another athlete since the rock Wells.
Speaker 1: Look what Gronk has done his popularity of who he
Speaker 1: is as his endorsements. He's appeared everywhere. He's done massively well,
Speaker 1: and he is minuscule compared to what Kelsey is. The
Speaker 1: only thing I would say on the People's Choice Awards
Speaker 1: was a huge miss. Number one. He's not even the
Speaker 1: best player on the Chiefs. It's Patrick Mahomes. So Patrick
Speaker 1: wasn't nominated, and Patrick wasn't nominated. But here's what I
Speaker 1: think they because it's a bunch. I'm guessing it's the
Speaker 1: young ladies, the swifties who voted for him and made.
Speaker 3: Him you think.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing, young ladies, you missed. The best
Speaker 1: story in sports over the last two years is a
Speaker 1: young woman named Caitlin Clark. She is a basketball star
Speaker 1: University of Iowa, breaking every record in fact, last week,
Speaker 1: the all time scoring record in Cuba hoops Caitlyn Clark
Speaker 1: has changed the game of basketball. Women's INCAA basketball ratings
Speaker 1: are off the charts because of Caitlyn Clark. She is
Speaker 1: a phenomenon right now, hands down the Athlete of the Year.
Speaker 1: Caitlyn Clark. It was a mess that's it.
Speaker 3: Well, I know that you like when you get to
Speaker 3: talk about sports.
Speaker 1: That's it. No. I just think it would have been
Speaker 1: perfect too. Just a young woman. They should have propped up.
Speaker 3: Was she nominated?
Speaker 1: No, that's the craziest thing. It was like Lebron James,
Speaker 1: Coco Goff, who's an amazing young tennis player, Jannis hoops star,
Speaker 1: Lione Messi of course at Miami, a soccer player, Sabrina
Speaker 1: ianis Nescu who's a female basketball player and she's awesome,
Speaker 1: some own Biles, you know, and Steph Curry.
Speaker 3: Wait, didn't Coco golf win big this year?
Speaker 1: She's been playing great. Yeah, she's had a really good year.
Speaker 1: But this other story about Travis Kelsey and Jason are
Speaker 1: is pretty interesting, and that is since dating Taylor Swell,
Speaker 1: he had to move. People were all over his house
Speaker 1: and his property, going through his trash, et cetera. And
Speaker 1: he has moved. And then I think he said, like
Speaker 1: the first day he moved to his new place, someone
Speaker 1: was like knocking on his window.
Speaker 2: I think this is something that is so not talked
Speaker 2: about enough, and it is scary.
Speaker 1: The invasion of privacy.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, now, you know, years ago celebrities were
Speaker 2: already bombarded, but now with like the advent of technology
Speaker 2: in the week, you can like look up where people
Speaker 2: live and and track private jets and do all these things.
Speaker 2: It's actually very scary because there are real and true
Speaker 2: stalkers out there. Taylor and Swift has dealt with someone
Speaker 2: Ariana Grande's dealt with people like breaking and successfully breaking
Speaker 2: into their homes multiple times. And it blows my mind
Speaker 2: when like I am going to come in defense of
Speaker 2: like people have come after Taylor Swift for flying on
Speaker 2: a private jet.
Speaker 3: How is she supposed to get.
Speaker 1: Around you imagine her walking through the Austin airport getting
Speaker 1: on a Southwest flight.
Speaker 2: They if people are coming to where her boyfriend lives, right,
Speaker 2: how is she supposed to.
Speaker 1: Be boyfriend's mom? Mam m Kelsey can't even I mean then.
Speaker 3: How is she supposed to just go get on an airplane?
Speaker 1: It's you know, people the argument of they asked for this.
Speaker 1: They're millionaires. Whoa crime a river? I'm sorry, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna snuff that out. I agree. It's
Speaker 1: not often you'll take up for the billionaires or one
Speaker 1: hundred millionaires. Their life is not normal. They cannot live
Speaker 1: a normal life. They can't go to a restaurant. Just
Speaker 1: you remember the video of Taylor Swift when her jet
Speaker 1: was picked up. She tried to sneak in and go
Speaker 1: to that wedding and that small town. Oh yeah, and
Speaker 1: thousands of people showed up and just it ruined it.
Speaker 2: Like listen, this is from just from January of this year.
Speaker 2: Accused Taylor Swift stalker arrested three times in five days
Speaker 2: outside of her and why see home?
Speaker 3: He's from Seattle.
Speaker 2: He had gone to New York to find her home
Speaker 2: and is he was arrested for a third time in
Speaker 2: five days, less than an hour after being released a
Speaker 2: second time by a Manhattan judge. So he got out
Speaker 2: and went back within an hour back to her house.
Speaker 2: Like it's scary, So you know, and.
Speaker 1: She's she's probably more adept at this and used to it.
Speaker 1: Kelsey is not, you know, he was played football and
Speaker 1: so yeah, he's popular in Kansas City, but you know,
Speaker 1: some fans might want his autograph from time to time.
Speaker 1: But now what's happening to him. He's on a different level.
Speaker 1: He's having to get security, he's having to change his life.
Speaker 1: That's a lot. It's a lot for anybody to adapt to.
Speaker 1: And it also shows you why a lot of these
Speaker 1: relationships are kept, you know, behind the scenes, because it's
Speaker 1: just it's hard to live in that limelight.
Speaker 2: But I did love seeing them together on the field
Speaker 2: after the Super Bowl. Well you know, I mean, we're
Speaker 2: a little belated on this conversation, but it just so nice.
Speaker 2: I am a longtime swiftie, Yeah, and it was nice
Speaker 2: to see her happy, and it was nice to see
Speaker 2: her nice to hear him being so grateful for her
Speaker 2: coming and being there, like on those hot mic moments
Speaker 2: he was caught on.
Speaker 3: And I thought it.
Speaker 2: Was really nice for you know, just people at home
Speaker 2: to see people working hard at their career, these athletes
Speaker 2: winning and like a love story happening like this is nice.
Speaker 2: We need this content, and you know, especially because the
Speaker 2: Joe Alwyn relationship was so behind the scenes for so long,
Speaker 2: it was nice. I'm going to transition to a different
Speaker 2: but similar celebrity story vibe.
Speaker 3: I remember Gwyneth Paltrow in the skiing trial?
Speaker 1: Do who I remember?
Speaker 2: So, in case you missed it captivated but it was
Speaker 2: pretty it was pretty viral. Gwyneth Paltrow went to court
Speaker 2: last year with a man from Utah, an optometrist, over
Speaker 2: a collision they'd had years before while skiing, and he
Speaker 2: was claiming she should be paying him because of injuries
Speaker 2: he sustained and trauma.
Speaker 3: She was saying that.
Speaker 2: It wasn't her fault that he ran into her. And
Speaker 2: so this was played out in court to many viral moments,
Speaker 2: including but not limited to Gwyneth telling him, I wish
Speaker 2: you well, Gwennath saying she lost half a day of
Speaker 2: skiing over it. Elevated neutrals their outfits. Yes, so many
Speaker 2: great quotes. There is now a musical about this. I
Speaker 2: didn't know about this. It is called Gwyneth Goes Skiing
Speaker 2: and it is going to premiere at the Egyptian Theater
Speaker 2: in Park City, Utah, where it all happened. And there
Speaker 2: are big people involved in this. Darren Chris, formerly of Glee.
Speaker 2: Trixie Mattel is joining as playing Paltrow's mother blythe Danner like.
Speaker 3: If I was there, I would go check it out.
Speaker 3: I love stuff like that.
Speaker 1: It's the The run is December thirteenth of the twenty third.
Speaker 1: This is playing in London. It's moving I think, to Edinburgh,
Speaker 1: and then it's going to be coming to Park City,
Speaker 1: Utah December thirteenth of the twenty third. That is, we're
Speaker 1: going to.
Speaker 3: Go in London.
Speaker 1: No, when it comes over to Utah, Oh, we have
Speaker 1: to we have to go. Uh. This is fascinating. It
Speaker 1: sounds like it is going to be funny. They did
Speaker 1: a great they're poking fun at it.
Speaker 2: There was one Scott. I had not thought about it
Speaker 2: until just now. There was once some kind.
Speaker 3: Of like bachelor parody play or maybe it was a musical.
Speaker 1: I think I went to see it off Broadway, Off, off,
Speaker 1: off off, Yeah, you know, I because I remember getting
Speaker 1: an invite to come to it and I couldn't go.
Speaker 1: I definitely would have gone. I would have supported it.
Speaker 1: I forget what I went. It wasn't bad, wasn't it
Speaker 1: like it was it a one woman play or a
Speaker 1: one no no, no.
Speaker 3: There were more people involved remember at all. But it
Speaker 3: wasn't bad.
Speaker 2: I love stuff like this because it's like we're just
Speaker 2: I don't know. That was the perfect trial because you know,
Speaker 2: there wasn't a lot of like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's the harm, No, No, I got hurt.
Speaker 2: Really it was an optometrist and well, I don't know
Speaker 2: this guy claimed he got hurt. But these were two
Speaker 2: pretty well off people just arguing in court over skiing.
Speaker 3: I mean, it was funny.
Speaker 1: We'll go with Kelly Osborne first, who is on Ozimpic,
Speaker 1: on the weight loss drug. Fine, nobody has a problem
Speaker 1: with that. Millions and millions of people are on it.
Speaker 1: It's Kelly's take about ozempic that really really hit home
Speaker 1: with some people and kind of stirred things up on
Speaker 1: the internet when she said, why wouldn't you just be
Speaker 1: on ozimpic. It's a lot better than a boring workout.
Speaker 3: I'll give her direct quotes here.
Speaker 2: She was doing an interview with Eyes and she said,
Speaker 2: I think it's amazing. There are a million ways to
Speaker 2: lose weight. Why not do it through something that isn't
Speaker 2: as boring as working out? Well, Kelly, like one, by
Speaker 2: the way, I'm not saying working out it's like the
Speaker 2: most exciting thing in the world, but it's like super
Speaker 2: good for your mental health and your physical health, Like
Speaker 2: we're advocates for working out here on the podcast. Then
Speaker 2: she went on quote people hate on it because they
Speaker 2: want to do it, and the people who hate on
Speaker 2: it the most are the people who are secretly doing
Speaker 2: it or pissed off that they can't afford it.
Speaker 1: That's so, which one of those quotes is the best,
Speaker 1: the one where not working out it's better than the
Speaker 1: boring working out or people are just mad because they
Speaker 1: can't afford it.
Speaker 2: I don't agree with her that people hate on it
Speaker 2: because they want to do it, I mean, and so
Speaker 2: I just don't agree, Like I that's just completely siphoning
Speaker 2: off all the legitimate questions about like is this creating
Speaker 2: a shortage for people who need it? And what is
Speaker 2: the long term research? I mean, we did an incredible
Speaker 2: podcast episode with a doctor all about this. Go check
Speaker 2: it out if you haven't. We just asked a bunch
Speaker 2: of questions and he answered them, and I did not
Speaker 2: walk away like hating ozempic from that podcast. I just
Speaker 2: still have a lot of questions about it, Like, for example,
Speaker 2: I learned that most of the weight you lose is muscle.
Speaker 2: I didn't know that. That's a red flag for me.
Speaker 2: But Kelly's saying to me, the worst part is that
Speaker 2: she says people hate on it because they quote, are
Speaker 2: pissed off that they can't afford it. How do you
Speaker 2: say that when you're on it, Like you're basically saying, Haha,
Speaker 2: I can and you can't. I can afford it and
Speaker 2: you can't. I'm on it and I can afford it
Speaker 2: and you can't, and you're just angry that you don't
Speaker 2: have the money I have. Right?
Speaker 3: What else does that convey?
Speaker 1: Very interesting, by the way, because her mom, she is,
Speaker 1: was totally against ozepic. She was on it for over
Speaker 1: a year, and she's come out saying, you know, kind
Speaker 1: of warning people about it. Kelly is kind of all
Speaker 1: for it. By the way. Whether you're ford or against
Speaker 1: it totally up to you. If you want to do it,
Speaker 1: that's fine. But I also think that the boring workouts
Speaker 1: and a good healthy diet are always going to be
Speaker 1: kind of important.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Interestingly, Rob Low had just talked about it. I saw that, Yeah,
Speaker 2: in a new interview where he says, and I agree
Speaker 2: with with Rob's take.
Speaker 3: He said, quote, I see people who.
Speaker 2: Are taking all the new weight loss drugs, and that's
Speaker 2: great and it's really changed their lives. But my concern
Speaker 2: always is, Okay, now, what's the plan for the longevity?
Speaker 2: And yeah, that was another question we had on the podcast,
Speaker 2: what's the long term research on this? And per that doctor,
Speaker 2: there really isn't any.
Speaker 1: Jimmy Kimmel live tell this story. This is you know,
Speaker 1: this has been going on for months on this show.
Speaker 2: I'll be honest, I don't really watch Kimmel and I
Speaker 2: don't know Jimmy at all.
Speaker 3: You know him a little bit.
Speaker 1: I've been on a show, oh maybe a dozen times.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but this just makes no sense to me. I
Speaker 2: don't know why. I don't know why you would do
Speaker 2: it unless he just wants to cost people some money. Basically,
Speaker 2: what happened is George Santos, who I am not defending
Speaker 2: the guy who was like elected to Congress and is
Speaker 2: now being accused of all sorts of fraud.
Speaker 3: Not here to defend him.
Speaker 2: But apparently Kimmel and his team submitted created fake profiles
Speaker 2: on the app cameo and submitted fake, made up cameo
Speaker 2: requests to George Santos. He then did them, thinking these
Speaker 2: requests were from real people, and they were kind of absurd,
Speaker 2: Like one of them was asking him to make a
Speaker 2: message for a blind woman who just passed a driving test,
Speaker 2: and he filmed them and then they aired them on
Speaker 2: Jimmy kim Alive.
Speaker 3: And you know, they call it a prank.
Speaker 2: But like I'm just saying, Santos is now apparently and
Speaker 2: I think it completely as grounds for this, like it
Speaker 2: is in cameos. You and I have both been on cameo.
Speaker 2: The whole premise of cameo is it is you're paying
Speaker 2: a set fee to license this one video for this
Speaker 2: one purpose from someone, like it says in there, like
Speaker 2: you can't use these videos for commercials or for movies
Speaker 2: or TV or other things because obviously then they'd cost
Speaker 2: a different amount.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So Jimmy Kimmel lives being sued. ABC is being sued.
Speaker 1: And again we're not for Santos in life. And I've
Speaker 1: known Jimmy for decades. I've known him since he got
Speaker 1: on the show, and I like Jimmy. I've always gotten
Speaker 1: along with Jimmy very well. They're very wrong here. They
Speaker 1: are so in the wrong, and they are going to
Speaker 1: have to settle, which they will. They'll settle out of court.
Speaker 1: Two really horrible things don't make a right and someone
Speaker 1: needed to be the adult in the room, going, guys,
Speaker 1: we are fraudulently making up who these people are.
Speaker 2: It's not really about George Santo's it's just about the
Speaker 2: press exactly.
Speaker 1: That's what I mean. Yeah, we're not taking up for
Speaker 1: Santos in general. It's just he happens to be the
Speaker 1: case here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you know it's it's just not yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: it's the same. It's a similar thing to me as
Speaker 2: when the Oscars just sat there after Will Smith slapped
Speaker 2: Chris Rock and it's like, what precedent is this setting?
Speaker 1: Always enjoy talking to you, LZ. I hope you enjoyed
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Speaker 3: I hope you go watch True Detective and I will
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