WEBVTT - Roses are Red, Headlines are Dramatic 0:00:01.000 --> 0:00:06.000 This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast. 0:00:07.480 --> 0:00:09.560 Chris Harrison and Lauren Zema coming to you from the 0:00:09.560 --> 0:00:13.600 home office in Austin, Texas. We have a day full 0:00:13.640 --> 0:00:18.800 of headlines and we have so much to cover today. 0:00:19.120 --> 0:00:21.159 I wish that we could start by talking about the 0:00:21.160 --> 0:00:25.119 True Detective Siri. No, sorry, not series season finale. Yes, 0:00:25.160 --> 0:00:27.160 but you wouldn't watch the show with me. This is 0:00:27.240 --> 0:00:30.920 huge on HBO. By the way, season finale knows watched. 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:34.400 Season finale was Sunday night. You've skipped an entire season. 0:00:35.040 --> 0:00:37.239 I've now learned. You've never watched anywhere. 0:00:36.960 --> 0:00:39.559 Speaking an entire franchise, I haven't watched. I didn't even 0:00:39.600 --> 0:00:41.360 watch the one because the big one was what Matthew 0:00:41.440 --> 0:00:42.880 McConaughey and his brother. 0:00:43.640 --> 0:00:47.239 Harrelson ten years ago. It came out this year and 0:00:47.280 --> 0:00:49.519 you're you're ten years late? Are You're not going to 0:00:49.560 --> 0:00:50.080 even try? 0:00:50.280 --> 0:00:53.440 Look, you know, I just jumped into the office, So 0:00:53.840 --> 0:00:56.760 that's true. And I was like thirteen years late on 0:00:56.840 --> 0:00:59.320 Game of Thrones. So just give me time. You know, 0:00:59.360 --> 0:01:02.279 by the time we're fifty, you know, you're fifty, I'll 0:01:02.320 --> 0:01:04.520 be what sixty something, We'll I'll jump into it. 0:01:04.600 --> 0:01:06.880 You're seeing in twenty years? What is the math? 0:01:07.520 --> 0:01:10.440 No, okay, everybody is talking about it, so I know 0:01:10.480 --> 0:01:14.000 I'm missing out. Are these sequential? I know they change 0:01:14.040 --> 0:01:15.520 stars and all that. Do I need to go all 0:01:15.520 --> 0:01:16.680 the way back and watch them. 0:01:16.840 --> 0:01:20.039 No, each season stands alone. I'll be honest. I was 0:01:20.080 --> 0:01:21.840 not a fan of season two. I don't even think 0:01:21.880 --> 0:01:24.880 I ever finished it. So true Detectives had some ups 0:01:24.920 --> 0:01:27.760 and downs. Like the first season Woody here elseon Matthew 0:01:27.800 --> 0:01:32.800 McConaughey absolutely crushed, incredible mystery, a little scary. Second season 0:01:32.959 --> 0:01:35.160 was Vince Vaughn and somebody not good. 0:01:35.240 --> 0:01:37.039 I was gonna ask you who the big who you 0:01:37.080 --> 0:01:38.800 think the best stars have been? 0:01:39.000 --> 0:01:40.039 Well, definitely season one? 0:01:40.160 --> 0:01:41.000 Sorry tons? 0:01:41.040 --> 0:01:44.000 Yeah, third season Mahershela Ali and Stephen Dorf it was 0:01:44.040 --> 0:01:48.480 pretty good. And then fourth season Jody Foster and a 0:01:48.880 --> 0:01:51.520 newcomer whose name I'm forgetting so I'm gonna look her up. 0:01:51.520 --> 0:01:53.480 But she's incredible. I think she's even kind of new 0:01:53.520 --> 0:01:54.000 to acting. 0:01:54.440 --> 0:01:58.640 But each season stands on its own, and there are 0:01:58.680 --> 0:02:01.720 some little nods that like kind of connect them, but 0:02:01.960 --> 0:02:04.800 it's totally a standalone story. You don't need to have 0:02:04.880 --> 0:02:07.720 seen them to understand the other seasons, and. 0:02:07.680 --> 0:02:09.919 It's so good and it's doing really well for HBO. 0:02:09.960 --> 0:02:12.480 And what makes me happy about it too is that 0:02:12.960 --> 0:02:15.440 it's been a show that's on every week, like not 0:02:15.560 --> 0:02:18.280 being dropped just to binge. Like, so my sister and 0:02:18.320 --> 0:02:20.120 mom and I have been watching it and talking about it. 0:02:20.160 --> 0:02:22.959 Okay, So if you're gonna plug what you're watching while 0:02:23.000 --> 0:02:25.400 you look that up, I agree, because I've been watching 0:02:25.520 --> 0:02:27.760 Masters of the Year on Apple. 0:02:27.960 --> 0:02:29.400 Is this the show about World War Two? 0:02:29.840 --> 0:02:31.959 Well, yeah, it's based around World War Two. 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:34.680 The pilots, world War two content. 0:02:35.200 --> 0:02:38.280 By the way, yes, I do this. This comes from Hanks, 0:02:38.480 --> 0:02:44.480 the playtone crew, Spielberg. So the best, hands down mini 0:02:44.560 --> 0:02:48.760 series ever was Band of Brothers, based on our invasion 0:02:48.760 --> 0:02:51.920 of World War Two, the Greatest Generation from D Day on. 0:02:52.760 --> 0:02:55.320 Then they took it to the Pacific, which was also good, 0:02:55.360 --> 0:02:58.080 but Band of Brothers was hands down the best ever. 0:02:58.680 --> 0:03:01.119 The same crew is now doing taking it to the Air. 0:03:01.160 --> 0:03:03.040 It's kind of Band of Brothers, of our pilots and 0:03:03.080 --> 0:03:08.640 our bombers. It is just gut wrenching, brutal. But to 0:03:08.720 --> 0:03:12.959 your point, I like it's Friday to Friday. Every Friday, 0:03:13.120 --> 0:03:16.560 a new episode drops the anticipation. My boys and night. 0:03:16.600 --> 0:03:19.359 We talk about it at the golf course, and it's 0:03:19.720 --> 0:03:22.120 fun to kind of have something you have to anticipate 0:03:22.160 --> 0:03:23.800 and look forward to it, and it gives you a 0:03:23.840 --> 0:03:27.400 week to kind of take in what you just saw 0:03:27.560 --> 0:03:28.320 because it's heavy. 0:03:29.040 --> 0:03:31.160 Yeah, well and true to you know what kind of 0:03:31.200 --> 0:03:33.640 Similarly true Detective is a mystery, So you're kind of 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:37.440 processing analyzing the episode and you get a lot more 0:03:37.480 --> 0:03:39.640 out of it mentally than if you would just sit 0:03:39.680 --> 0:03:41.680 and binge it all and like get the answer right away. 0:03:42.280 --> 0:03:42.400 Gain. 0:03:42.560 --> 0:03:43.680 I liked trying to figure it out. 0:03:43.760 --> 0:03:47.080 What I did to Game of Thrones was should be illegal. 0:03:47.320 --> 0:03:50.000 I watched so much of it so quickly you're not 0:03:50.080 --> 0:03:52.560 meant to ingest it like that. I was getting years 0:03:52.600 --> 0:03:59.160 and years, decades of performances, casting changes. You know, it 0:03:59.200 --> 0:03:59.720 was too much. 0:04:00.000 --> 0:04:02.560 The TV is that good when it's on that scope 0:04:02.640 --> 0:04:06.840 and it's of that quality acting writing. Again, if something's 0:04:06.880 --> 0:04:10.640 like a mystery, you wanted to unveil slowly. You want 0:04:10.680 --> 0:04:12.080 to enjoy it and savor it, and you want to 0:04:12.080 --> 0:04:15.720 discuss it with people. And when that TikTok trend was 0:04:15.720 --> 0:04:19.520 going around of guys thinking about the Roman Empire all 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:22.159 the time. Yeah, and people were like, why do women 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:24.640 were finding out that they're straight? Male partners thought about 0:04:24.640 --> 0:04:25.200 the Roman Empire? 0:04:25.240 --> 0:04:27.000 How often do you think about the Roman Empire? 0:04:27.240 --> 0:04:29.680 I thought that was a little misguided. I think it's 0:04:29.720 --> 0:04:30.400 World War two. 0:04:30.960 --> 0:04:33.080 I don't know anybody that ever thinks about the Roman 0:04:33.120 --> 0:04:35.279 Empire that. I don't know who thought that up, because 0:04:35.320 --> 0:04:39.400 that's nobody. I would say, zero, nobody world War two. 0:04:39.920 --> 0:04:44.279 There's not a man around of adult age that doesn't 0:04:44.279 --> 0:04:47.120 think about World War Two five times a week. 0:04:47.440 --> 0:04:49.240 What is the interest factor? 0:04:49.320 --> 0:04:53.520 The interest factor was and is especially for people my age, 0:04:53.560 --> 0:04:56.640 is it was not that long before we were all born. 0:04:56.720 --> 0:04:59.640 I mean it's you know, we're talking thirty years separated. 0:04:59.720 --> 0:05:03.480 So people are our grandfathers, some of our fathers, even 0:05:03.600 --> 0:05:06.640 if they were old enough, were involved in this, and 0:05:06.839 --> 0:05:11.360 it was it was just so impactful, obviously the Holocaust 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:15.440 and everything that went into all of World War Two, 0:05:15.440 --> 0:05:18.240 and then it obviously going into the Pacific theater. It 0:05:18.279 --> 0:05:22.160 was just something that still mesmerises and captures our generation 0:05:23.000 --> 0:05:25.480 on a lot of levels. It's just something honestly, when 0:05:25.520 --> 0:05:27.279 I watch I just see these young men, I'm just 0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:30.000 I am so amazed, and I'm thinking about this generation 0:05:30.120 --> 0:05:32.520 of We talked about this at lunch. We literally talked 0:05:32.560 --> 0:05:35.800 about World War Two at lunch today with me and friends. Yeah, 0:05:35.800 --> 0:05:37.600 me and our friends. There was four of us, and 0:05:37.640 --> 0:05:40.839 I said, you know, honestly, and it's I'm not dogging 0:05:40.880 --> 0:05:43.440 on this generation, but I'm like, what would happen with 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:46.560 this generation if they had to go to war? Like 0:05:46.640 --> 0:05:50.240 the Greatest generation storming the beaches of Normandy or in 0:05:50.279 --> 0:05:55.280 this case Masters of the Air. They knew ninety percent 0:05:55.400 --> 0:05:57.800 chance going up on these missions, they weren't coming back. 0:05:57.920 --> 0:05:59.760 And these are kids eighteen ninets. 0:05:59.880 --> 0:06:02.520 Are eighteen to twenty five year old men that are 0:06:02.560 --> 0:06:07.920 pilots in bombardiers and gunneries, you know, in the It's 0:06:07.960 --> 0:06:13.560 just it's crazy how brave these men were and how 0:06:13.640 --> 0:06:15.799 they did it day in and day out, and mentally 0:06:15.880 --> 0:06:19.280 what this must have done to them emotionally. I just 0:06:19.920 --> 0:06:22.159 try to put myself in their shoes, and it just 0:06:22.200 --> 0:06:23.200 shakes you to the core. 0:06:23.640 --> 0:06:27.880 It is so interesting when you think about what someone like, 0:06:27.960 --> 0:06:32.560 all the different life places that an adult around like 0:06:32.600 --> 0:06:36.120 age eighteen, nineteen or twenty can be in, like even today, 0:06:36.279 --> 0:06:38.760 and I hear what you're saying my grandfather, I never 0:06:38.839 --> 0:06:40.520 met him. He died before I was born, but he 0:06:40.880 --> 0:06:45.840 fought in World War Two. And when you think of 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:48.520 I even think about my grandparents on my mom's side, 0:06:48.720 --> 0:06:51.360 who had kids at eighteen, Like you know, but even today, 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:53.480 you can be eighteen and you might have a child 0:06:53.960 --> 0:06:56.000 and be working in supporting a family, or you might 0:06:56.000 --> 0:06:59.279 be a freshman in college and totally financially dependent on 0:06:59.320 --> 0:07:02.640 your parents. You can lead all sorts of different lives 0:07:03.200 --> 0:07:06.159 entering adulthood. But yeah, it would be interesting to see. 0:07:06.640 --> 0:07:08.600 I mean, God forbid, I hope we don't have a 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:11.880 war tomorrow, but I just wanted to ask you about it, because, 0:07:11.920 --> 0:07:17.840 for example, I don't think there's the same interest fascination 0:07:17.960 --> 0:07:20.280 with like Vietnam. And I don't know if that's because 0:07:20.320 --> 0:07:23.200 World War Two has so many different I think you're 0:07:23.200 --> 0:07:25.720 also interested in like the way the battles went and 0:07:26.160 --> 0:07:27.720 the strategy and all that well, and. 0:07:27.760 --> 0:07:31.720 Vietnam captured our imaginations for decades too, just because of 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:35.080 the draft. And when I turned eighteen, you had to 0:07:35.200 --> 0:07:36.280 register for the draft. 0:07:37.400 --> 0:07:40.679 And that's wait, something's hitting me right now. Sorry, I finished. 0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:41.840 I think so that's just it. 0:07:42.040 --> 0:07:43.560 It's something that all of us that. 0:07:43.800 --> 0:07:44.960 So you registered for the draft. 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:47.920 Yeah, the idea was just commonplace when when I was 0:07:47.960 --> 0:07:49.800 of the agent. I don't know, I don't think you 0:07:49.840 --> 0:07:51.920 still do, like I don't know if Joshua did. But 0:07:52.280 --> 0:07:54.920 when I turned eighteen, you know, you get your license, 0:07:54.960 --> 0:07:56.720 you get the voting and all that stuff, and then 0:07:56.760 --> 0:07:59.520 you would register for the draft. And obviously that has 0:07:59.560 --> 0:08:02.760 not happened since Vietnam and our country, and you think 0:08:02.760 --> 0:08:06.000 about what's happening in Ukraine right now, and they're forcing 0:08:06.000 --> 0:08:08.080 people to go to the front lines up to sixty 0:08:08.160 --> 0:08:11.320 years old. It's crazy, but it wasn't that long ago, 0:08:11.440 --> 0:08:13.680 Like you're talking about Vietnam, where we were, you know, 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:17.360 kind of forced into action and forced into military service 0:08:17.400 --> 0:08:20.480 for our country. And you think about what would happen 0:08:20.560 --> 0:08:23.040 to this generation. And one of the guys I was 0:08:23.080 --> 0:08:26.400 with at launch said, well, that's now they are almost 0:08:26.400 --> 0:08:30.200 playing video games because they're drone pilots and they're you know, 0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:33.480 doing this from thousands of miles away. It's very different warfare, 0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:34.480 very interesting. 0:08:34.200 --> 0:08:36.520 That's true, very different than being their face to face. 0:08:36.960 --> 0:08:38.439 But it's something that stuck with me when I was 0:08:38.480 --> 0:08:41.640 in high school that that was because that was our fathers, 0:08:41.800 --> 0:08:44.800 that was our father's age who were going to Vietnam. 0:08:45.000 --> 0:08:47.880 Well, I mean it's been yeah, it's been a while since. 0:08:48.040 --> 0:08:50.679 I mean again, you're talking about like this generation like 0:08:50.840 --> 0:08:54.120 I was in high school in nine to eleven happened 0:08:54.520 --> 0:08:58.000 and I mean so the Iraq War, Like you know, 0:08:58.040 --> 0:09:00.960 I know people who've my cousin's husbands in the war, 0:09:01.040 --> 0:09:04.559 and so it's that's more. I think millennials still have that. 0:09:05.240 --> 0:09:07.920 But yeah, gen Zers and the generation below them, like 0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:10.720 they have not really lived and felt. I think that's 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:15.719 maybe why people sort of like find found Ukraine so 0:09:15.840 --> 0:09:18.520 shocking or something almost like as if war couldn't happen anymore, 0:09:18.559 --> 0:09:21.640 because it's been so long since we've been actively part 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:24.120 of something and where people have had friends or a 0:09:24.160 --> 0:09:28.920 lot of friends in an active war situation. But yeah, 0:09:28.960 --> 0:09:32.040 well that really took a turn. But Okay, here's something 0:09:32.040 --> 0:09:36.960 I think I just figured out. So women, like I'm 0:09:36.960 --> 0:09:40.079 watching True Detective, you're watching this World War two show. Yes, 0:09:41.080 --> 0:09:43.559 I feel like women can get very into true crime. 0:09:43.920 --> 0:09:50.240 We're very into like true crime shows, podcasts, you know, docuseries, 0:09:50.840 --> 0:09:54.000 and then like and I'm totally making broad sweeps here, 0:09:54.040 --> 0:09:56.400 but then men were saying, can be very into World 0:09:56.440 --> 0:10:00.559 War two, and I just realized, maybe it's because of 0:10:00.600 --> 0:10:03.840 like what we think we might face or what we 0:10:03.920 --> 0:10:06.320 grew up, grew up wondering if we might face this 0:10:06.400 --> 0:10:10.080 at some point. That's interesting, Like women are taught be 0:10:10.160 --> 0:10:13.080 afraid walking to your car in a parking garage, you know, 0:10:13.200 --> 0:10:15.040 like your home can get broken into, you can, like 0:10:15.240 --> 0:10:17.960 we're taught to be on guard, and then you grew 0:10:18.040 --> 0:10:20.240 up knowing you'd have to sign up for the draft, 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:25.120 and like warps at interesting. Okay, we need to consult 0:10:25.160 --> 0:10:28.920 a therapist on this. It makes sense if anyone else 0:10:28.960 --> 0:10:31.760 has thoughts or please please wait. And I'm always interested 0:10:31.800 --> 0:10:34.480 in where our obsessions come from. And if you've been 0:10:34.520 --> 0:10:36.480 watching True Detective, I'm going to try to get you 0:10:36.520 --> 0:10:39.240 to watch I think you'd love season one. And it 0:10:39.320 --> 0:10:41.680 still holds up because even when it came out, it 0:10:41.720 --> 0:10:43.600 was like set in the nineties, so it was always 0:10:44.120 --> 0:10:45.079 if it doesn't feel dated. 0:10:45.559 --> 0:10:47.600 I tried to watch The Mister and Missus Smith Show. 0:10:49.400 --> 0:10:49.920 Didn't love that. 0:10:50.480 --> 0:10:52.400 Man, I love that movie so much. I'm like, I 0:10:52.400 --> 0:10:54.040 didn't really feel like I needed a TV show. 0:10:54.160 --> 0:10:56.440 Yeah, that was that was upsetting. Didn't didn't make it 0:10:56.480 --> 0:10:58.760 through more than a couple episodes and had to bail. 0:10:59.640 --> 0:11:03.280 It was not pretty okay, what was wrong with it? Everything? 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:03.640 Oh? 0:11:03.720 --> 0:11:06.719 Yeah, it was just it's really slow and just yeah. 0:11:06.480 --> 0:11:09.880 Well, that whole concept, the concept of the movie is 0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:11.600 only long enough for a movie to me, because it 0:11:11.640 --> 0:11:14.120 was like they didn't know each other was a spy, 0:11:14.800 --> 0:11:16.560 and then by the end of the movie they've you know, 0:11:16.720 --> 0:11:18.959 they figured out each other is a spy. So is 0:11:19.000 --> 0:11:20.560 it the same concept for the show? 0:11:20.600 --> 0:11:23.320 This was no, they were kind of cast together to 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:25.280 be spies and they. 0:11:25.400 --> 0:11:27.040 So then why are we calling mister and missus Smith? 0:11:27.040 --> 0:11:28.520 Why isn't it just new spy show? 0:11:28.679 --> 0:11:30.320 Yeah it should have been. Yeah, I'm not sure because 0:11:30.360 --> 0:11:30.679 it really was. 0:11:30.880 --> 0:11:34.040 Because our industry is obsessed with remakes and sequels and 0:11:34.080 --> 0:11:35.000 we can't ever do anything. 0:11:35.360 --> 0:11:37.200 Gott to have intellectual property, right. 0:11:37.000 --> 0:11:51.920 Even though you know, Oppenheimer and Barbie crushed it. Let's 0:11:51.960 --> 0:11:56.199 talk headlines, you know, right off the bat, I will 0:11:56.240 --> 0:11:58.200 say People's Choice Awards were Sunday night and we didn't 0:11:58.200 --> 0:12:01.240 watch them. I was watching True Detectives, you know what. 0:12:01.280 --> 0:12:05.520 I'm the trend is going well. The ratings were pretty solid, 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:09.000 and I'm glad to see that award shows are ticking up. 0:12:09.360 --> 0:12:13.199 Speaking of TV and TV fails, did you hear the 0:12:13.320 --> 0:12:19.679 NBC Morning show The Today Show? Kelly Roland was supposed 0:12:19.800 --> 0:12:22.800 to well, she did appear. She was booked for an 0:12:22.840 --> 0:12:25.319 appearance early on, and then she was supposed to stay 0:12:25.360 --> 0:12:27.200 and she was booked to be a co host with 0:12:27.280 --> 0:12:30.440 Hota Kopy in that final hour that's kind of more 0:12:30.920 --> 0:12:38.480 you know, free lifestyle stuff, and Kelly Roland allegedly her 0:12:38.520 --> 0:12:40.920 and her team kind of threw a fit because they 0:12:40.920 --> 0:12:43.680 weren't happy with their green room, with their dressing room 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:49.360 at NBC, and they walked off. She left, She left 0:12:49.360 --> 0:12:53.960 Hota copy in a lurch, no co host. Long story short, 0:12:53.960 --> 0:12:56.200 they ended up getting Rita Aura, who was there, and 0:12:56.240 --> 0:12:58.160 she said, sure, I'll fill in, and she just stayed. 0:12:58.160 --> 0:13:00.520 Good for you, rit Aura for pick that up and 0:13:00.600 --> 0:13:03.160 just doing that. But so bizarre. 0:13:03.920 --> 0:13:06.679 When I first saw this, I was a little shocked 0:13:07.120 --> 0:13:09.880 because now, and I never say that I know someone 0:13:09.960 --> 0:13:12.880 just from interviewing them, but I've interviewed. 0:13:12.559 --> 0:13:13.720 Kellen rolland a couple of times. 0:13:13.760 --> 0:13:16.400 She was always very nice, did not give me a 0:13:16.440 --> 0:13:19.280 diva vibe at all, And I've never really heard that 0:13:19.400 --> 0:13:24.160 about her in the industry, like she's always I've never 0:13:24.200 --> 0:13:26.520 heard any stories. You know, some people you hear stories, 0:13:26.559 --> 0:13:29.920 but her I never had heard any. And if this 0:13:30.320 --> 0:13:33.559 is true, like I will say, my spidy sense goes 0:13:33.600 --> 0:13:34.120 up a little bit. 0:13:34.120 --> 0:13:35.680 I'm like, is there more of the story? Because it 0:13:35.720 --> 0:13:37.280 does so weird. 0:13:37.760 --> 0:13:39.560 I know it's true. I mean, I know the story 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:40.120 is true. 0:13:40.400 --> 0:13:42.679 Like you know that she was supposed to host guest 0:13:42.679 --> 0:13:44.360 host and she did not end up guest hosting. 0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:47.959 Yeah, but I agree this doesn't pass the smell test. 0:13:48.120 --> 0:13:51.240 There is more to this story somewhere. Now. There is 0:13:51.400 --> 0:13:55.440 a weird kind of sub story to this, and that 0:13:55.600 --> 0:13:58.600 is there was a room upstairs that they, I guess 0:13:58.679 --> 0:14:02.440 thought would work and Jennifer Lopez was up there. 0:14:02.640 --> 0:14:04.280 I love how many people were in this building at 0:14:04.280 --> 0:14:06.719 one time. It does speak to it. And let me 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:08.400 do Kelly Jlo and her. 0:14:08.320 --> 0:14:09.320 Team are in that green room. 0:14:09.480 --> 0:14:13.240 And let's just say, New York those buildings really do suck. 0:14:13.600 --> 0:14:17.200 They are so old. Ur et building, you guys worked 0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:20.280 in a closet the ABE. I've been in the ABC 0:14:20.440 --> 0:14:23.360 building twenty times over the years. I was hosting on 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:27.760 Good Morning America, the View you name it, they all 0:14:27.840 --> 0:14:30.800 are tiny. I mean even Kelly and Regis, Kelly and 0:14:30.880 --> 0:14:34.760 Ryan now Mark and Kelly, those studios are atrocious. I 0:14:34.760 --> 0:14:38.479 mean you are in a closet and that's Kelly Rippas. 0:14:39.720 --> 0:14:41.120 This is why don't you're tiny? 0:14:41.160 --> 0:14:41.680 They're tiny. 0:14:41.760 --> 0:14:43.360 This is why I don't get it. Because Kelly Roland 0:14:43.360 --> 0:14:45.479 has been in this industry since she was a teenager 0:14:45.520 --> 0:14:48.360 and does she's been on these shows. She knows how 0:14:48.400 --> 0:14:51.680 small these dressing rooms are like. And you're totally right. 0:14:51.720 --> 0:14:55.320 I mean in New York, especially, our et offices are 0:14:55.360 --> 0:14:59.080 like I'm not exaggerating the size of an apartment. 0:14:59.200 --> 0:15:01.160 And when you're on the to Night's show, The Old 0:15:01.160 --> 0:15:03.280 Show with David Letterman there at the Old Theater, that's 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:05.560 the same office that et us. You guys are right 0:15:05.600 --> 0:15:06.440 above them right now. 0:15:06.480 --> 0:15:08.680 When I say our offices are the size of the apartment, 0:15:08.760 --> 0:15:13.640 I mean picture that one sort of normal size apartment 0:15:14.040 --> 0:15:17.240 is holding like five people's offices, a group of desks 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:18.880 in a tiny interview room space. 0:15:19.000 --> 0:15:19.920 It's not big there. 0:15:20.160 --> 0:15:25.680 And that's everybody in New York. Nobody's better or worse, ABC, NBCCBS, 0:15:26.200 --> 0:15:28.560 They're all terrible. And that's just because these buildings are 0:15:28.600 --> 0:15:31.680 old and you can't renovate them. So it is what 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:33.720 it is, and it doesn't matter where you go. Foul 0:15:33.720 --> 0:15:36.600 into late night show. Now, I will say, if you 0:15:36.640 --> 0:15:39.800 come to Hollywood, it's better like Kimmel's bigger, Like his 0:15:39.920 --> 0:15:42.360 rooms were a little bigger because you know, they were 0:15:42.400 --> 0:15:45.560 able to build those theaters later and they could renovate 0:15:45.600 --> 0:15:46.680 them a little different. 0:15:47.280 --> 0:15:51.400 If this is true, if this was the only reason, 0:15:52.160 --> 0:15:56.840 well then I say, I could never imagine walking out 0:15:56.920 --> 0:15:59.880 when I was supposed to go yea guest co host 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:02.320 live hour of television and leaving people. 0:16:02.040 --> 0:16:02.480 In the lurch. 0:16:02.720 --> 0:16:04.880 I'm just curious why. I was gonna ask you why. 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:07.440 Because I've been in this industry and I know how 0:16:07.520 --> 0:16:08.720 crazy hard that would be. 0:16:08.760 --> 0:16:11.280 And I know I know that you're throwing off. 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:14.280 People who wouldn't be at fault for this, Like the 0:16:14.320 --> 0:16:16.840 producers have worked at this, the crew is ready to film, 0:16:16.880 --> 0:16:18.360 all you know, dozens of people. 0:16:18.480 --> 0:16:20.240 You're screwing over a lot of people who had nothing 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:20.920 to do with anything. 0:16:21.080 --> 0:16:23.440 Yeah, it's their jobs, and like you know, it's not 0:16:23.560 --> 0:16:25.680 their fault that the dressing room isn't big. 0:16:25.720 --> 0:16:27.560 So I could never imagine doing that. 0:16:27.760 --> 0:16:30.120 Yeah, and I would love for Kelly Roland to speak 0:16:30.120 --> 0:16:32.960 about this, because I agree there has to be more 0:16:33.080 --> 0:16:37.360 to this story because it just doesn't smell. This doesn't 0:16:37.440 --> 0:16:39.800 pass the smell test. Something something. I hope there's more 0:16:39.920 --> 0:16:45.840 me too. Speaking of j Lo, ben Fleck wrote her 0:16:46.560 --> 0:16:51.160 a bunch of private love letters, and ben Fleck was 0:16:51.160 --> 0:16:55.880 apparently taken aback when his wife j Loo shared with 0:16:56.000 --> 0:17:01.240 other songwriters all those private love letters. Awkwardly enough, Ben 0:17:01.320 --> 0:17:04.440 came home to see all of his love letters being 0:17:04.480 --> 0:17:07.960 passed around to all these other songwriters. J Lo was, 0:17:08.560 --> 0:17:10.480 you know, using these letters. I guess they were the 0:17:10.480 --> 0:17:13.600 impetus for her movie that's coming out, which we have 0:17:13.640 --> 0:17:15.119 to talk about when we watch it. 0:17:15.880 --> 0:17:19.440 This is me now, Yes, So, okay, there is a 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:22.679 Variety article and I love a good old school celebrity 0:17:22.720 --> 0:17:25.720 profile piece because they so. 0:17:25.800 --> 0:17:26.920 Rarely happen anymore. 0:17:27.680 --> 0:17:31.119 And the reporter is very honest in it, like opens 0:17:31.200 --> 0:17:33.639 up the article saying, you know, Jayload canceled on him 0:17:33.640 --> 0:17:36.200 a couple times. He was finally getting to her house 0:17:36.200 --> 0:17:39.320 to interview her for this new album and documentary and 0:17:39.600 --> 0:17:43.600 film Triple Threat she's releasing. Says that he had to 0:17:43.640 --> 0:17:45.800 sign an NDA when he came on property which she 0:17:45.800 --> 0:17:48.560 didn't really understand because he's there to interview her and 0:17:48.560 --> 0:17:50.320 then publish her answers. 0:17:50.760 --> 0:17:52.880 And it's a fascinating profile. 0:17:53.280 --> 0:17:56.639 And she talks in it about how like nobody understands 0:17:56.680 --> 0:17:59.480 this piece, nobody knew what she was doing. She really 0:17:59.520 --> 0:18:03.000 wanted to tell her love story of her and Ben, 0:18:03.160 --> 0:18:07.280 of her past marriages that didn't work out. So I'm 0:18:07.480 --> 0:18:10.720 fascinated and it's doing well, Like the movie has been 0:18:10.720 --> 0:18:14.280 critically well received, the album is doing well, so props 0:18:14.280 --> 0:18:17.080 to Jlo. She financed the thing herself. I've heard it 0:18:17.200 --> 0:18:22.199 is kind of wild and incomprehensible. But would I be 0:18:22.400 --> 0:18:26.040 mad if I was Ben Affleck and my wife had 0:18:26.080 --> 0:18:27.359 pulled out our love letters? 0:18:27.680 --> 0:18:29.199 Well, you and I, you and I write each other 0:18:29.280 --> 0:18:32.760 letters all the time, and notes and things, And if 0:18:33.040 --> 0:18:35.240 you came home and me and all my boys were 0:18:35.240 --> 0:18:38.119 sitting around drinking beers and passing them around, wouldn't you 0:18:38.160 --> 0:18:39.479 be taken? Aback? 0:18:40.000 --> 0:18:42.639 I you got to clear that with somebody one hundred 0:18:43.520 --> 0:18:47.480 So you know, obviously he's probably aware of their love 0:18:47.520 --> 0:18:50.960 story is the base for like this movie and this album. 0:18:51.560 --> 0:18:57.959 But that's so personal, and to share those love letters 0:18:57.960 --> 0:18:58.240 with a. 0:18:58.160 --> 0:19:02.040 Group of people without you asking no, I couldn't. 0:19:02.040 --> 0:19:04.720 I mean, and Ben apparently even said to her like, well, 0:19:04.760 --> 0:19:06.560 I kind of thought part of the magic here was 0:19:06.560 --> 0:19:10.080 that like this was private, right, and and you're calling 0:19:10.119 --> 0:19:12.760 it you know, he viewed it as the greatest love 0:19:12.800 --> 0:19:13.960 story never told. 0:19:14.119 --> 0:19:15.240 And then I. 0:19:15.160 --> 0:19:18.159 Would be very disappointed in you. I would be upset. 0:19:18.480 --> 0:19:20.000 What are other things? 0:19:20.640 --> 0:19:20.760 Like? 0:19:20.760 --> 0:19:22.080 What are I'm just thinking of? 0:19:22.920 --> 0:19:24.919 I don't know we've talked about this before, because like 0:19:25.160 --> 0:19:27.840 my girlfriends and I'll kind of talk about our relationship 0:19:27.880 --> 0:19:30.240 and like, I'm sure you talk to your friends about 0:19:30.280 --> 0:19:32.119 you know, guys talk about marriage and stuff. 0:19:32.160 --> 0:19:33.280