WEBVTT - Wring In The New Season 0:00:01.200 --> 0:00:04.920 Welcome to Fantasy Football Weekly, a production of iHeartRadio. 0:00:07.040 --> 0:00:11.320 Time now for Fantasy Football Weekly from iHeartRadio, your weekly 0:00:11.360 --> 0:00:15.360 source for the nation's best fantasy football advice, speculation, and 0:00:15.400 --> 0:00:18.079 whatever stupid stuff they decided to drop into the show. 0:00:18.520 --> 0:00:20.560 Now here's your host, Paul Chargion. 0:00:22.200 --> 0:00:26.800 It's another edition of Fantasy Football Weekly. My co host 0:00:26.880 --> 0:00:30.960 today Matt Harrison. Hey, Matt, welcome back to the show. 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:32.559 It's only been a couple of weeks for you. 0:00:34.040 --> 0:00:36.400 Yeah, it's only been a couple of weeks for me. 0:00:36.400 --> 0:00:38.440 A couple of big weeks for you, though, as you're 0:00:38.479 --> 0:00:42.400 now fully in that state with all we can you know, 0:00:42.560 --> 0:00:44.960 right angles on everything. 0:00:45.760 --> 0:00:48.280 Yes, exactly. I'm going to see our other co host, 0:00:48.320 --> 0:00:51.800 Scott fish this weekend. It's the first Scott fish Bowl 0:00:52.000 --> 0:00:56.280 live event of the year is coming this weekend. He's 0:00:56.280 --> 0:00:59.280 flying to Las Vegas. I'm driving to Las Vegas. We'll 0:00:59.280 --> 0:01:03.160 have our first opportunity to uh to draft our Scott 0:01:03.200 --> 0:01:06.039 fish Bowl teams and not. 0:01:06.040 --> 0:01:09.720 Feeling mostually unprepared, I do I draft right now. 0:01:09.760 --> 0:01:13.600 I prepared because he's got of course, he's got all 0:01:13.600 --> 0:01:15.959 the weird scoring system stuff and this this year is 0:01:16.040 --> 0:01:18.679 all about just like usage you're just looking for guys 0:01:18.680 --> 0:01:20.160 who get the ball in their hand as much as 0:01:20.200 --> 0:01:26.080 you can. I'm hoping the Fantasy Life cheat sheet is 0:01:26.160 --> 0:01:30.280 going to be of a supreme help here the the 0:01:30.600 --> 0:01:33.319 I have not done my I've done my own season 0:01:33.319 --> 0:01:36.280 long rankings, but not attuned to the Scott fish Bowl 0:01:36.640 --> 0:01:37.800 scoring system. 0:01:38.319 --> 0:01:41.360 So yeah, the Scott fish Bowl is always the one 0:01:41.360 --> 0:01:44.920 for me that it catches me off guard every year, 0:01:45.000 --> 0:01:49.640 like it's like, oh, no studying, because it's always like 0:01:49.720 --> 0:01:52.840 right after the fourth of July and everything, and I'm 0:01:52.920 --> 0:01:55.480 usually coming back from a family trip and I haven't 0:01:55.520 --> 0:01:59.160 really dug into fantasy football for the season yet, and 0:01:59.240 --> 0:02:01.760 so it's always It's always a fun one for me. 0:02:02.160 --> 0:02:06.520 But I have a new strategy this year charge since 0:02:07.160 --> 0:02:09.800 for about the last five years, my Scott fish Bowl 0:02:09.840 --> 0:02:14.320 team has just been plagued by this curse. And it's 0:02:14.480 --> 0:02:20.040 every player I draft get hurt, retires, Andrew Luck retire 0:02:20.120 --> 0:02:23.200 on me like the day after I drafted him, all 0:02:23.200 --> 0:02:26.520 that stuff. So I decided this year as as a 0:02:26.560 --> 0:02:29.880 Minnesota Vikings fan, yeah, drafting at the live draft in 0:02:29.919 --> 0:02:33.680 Minnesota in the Minnesota Vikings Division, mind you right, that 0:02:34.160 --> 0:02:37.919 I will only be taking NFC North teams that are 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:38.760 not the Vikings. 0:02:39.360 --> 0:02:41.280 You're taking all Bears, Packers, and Lions. 0:02:41.880 --> 0:02:45.440 I'm going to bring. I might sprinkle in an Eagle 0:02:45.520 --> 0:02:47.680 in there or a ram or something like that, but 0:02:48.040 --> 0:02:52.120 I think I'm just gonna take highest adp guy within 0:02:52.440 --> 0:02:53.440 from those teams. 0:02:53.919 --> 0:02:56.239 I think you should go hardcore and do only those 0:02:56.280 --> 0:02:56.920 three teams. 0:02:57.280 --> 0:02:58.600 It would it would be really funny. 0:02:58.639 --> 0:03:01.240 It would be funny. Your teams won't do any worse 0:03:01.240 --> 0:03:02.320 than they've done in the past. 0:03:02.560 --> 0:03:06.119 So oh yeah, and if I curse them all, it's fantastic. 0:03:06.440 --> 0:03:09.360 Do any of them share a bye week because that 0:03:09.400 --> 0:03:10.359 would be a problem. 0:03:10.800 --> 0:03:13.200 Yeah, that might be an issue. So I might have to, 0:03:13.280 --> 0:03:15.680 you know, in the twentieth round of the draft, might 0:03:15.720 --> 0:03:19.120 have to, you know, go off the board a little bit, right, 0:03:19.200 --> 0:03:22.440 But I think I will probably stay completely in the NFC. 0:03:22.960 --> 0:03:25.560 And it's not a secret. I told everybody in my 0:03:25.680 --> 0:03:28.440 draft that I was doing this, so they know what's coming. 0:03:28.800 --> 0:03:31.519 I go NFC north Man, go hardcore on, just lean 0:03:31.560 --> 0:03:34.280 into this thing. That's my advice. Yeah, that's my advice. 0:03:35.440 --> 0:03:39.560 On this week's show, we are talking about older players 0:03:39.600 --> 0:03:44.200 and can we ring one more good year out of 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:47.840 these aged players? Who've been good. These are in some 0:03:47.960 --> 0:03:51.920 cases players that are potentially even like Hall of Fame 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:55.040 level players. Can we get one more good year out 0:03:55.040 --> 0:03:57.360 of these guys? Man, we'll both do a thumbs up 0:03:57.360 --> 0:04:00.280 thumbs downs. We'll see how many we agree on disagree. 0:04:01.600 --> 0:04:04.600 I bet we're going right here in a little bit 0:04:04.600 --> 0:04:06.400 of Cisco and Ebert. Do you think the kids know 0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:07.800 who Ciskel and Ebert are? 0:04:08.560 --> 0:04:09.240 Not A chance? 0:04:09.400 --> 0:04:09.960 No chance? 0:04:10.440 --> 0:04:13.520 Okay, I would guess there's not too many kids listening 0:04:13.560 --> 0:04:14.160 to this show. 0:04:14.480 --> 0:04:15.240 That's probably true. 0:04:15.480 --> 0:04:16.800 Our demo is a little older. 0:04:17.000 --> 0:04:19.520 Yeah, well, that's probably true. They've probably I'd like to 0:04:19.520 --> 0:04:22.279 think people our listeners have grown up with us, gotten 0:04:22.360 --> 0:04:24.680 ranked with us, scotten overweight. 0:04:24.520 --> 0:04:28.599 Understanding that like churches, the Aura Maxer or something like that, 0:04:28.720 --> 0:04:31.200 you know, like then it makes sense. 0:04:31.240 --> 0:04:33.000 I don't know what that means. Do I want to 0:04:33.000 --> 0:04:34.160 be an Aura max. 0:04:33.960 --> 0:04:38.960 In Skibbety all that stuff. I'm just repeating stuff my kids, 0:04:39.000 --> 0:04:39.560 your kids say. 0:04:39.600 --> 0:04:42.080 I don't. Yeah, I don't. I don't. I don't know 0:04:42.200 --> 0:04:43.920 what any of that means. I'm sorry to say. I 0:04:43.960 --> 0:04:48.040 guess that makes me really word all right? We begin 0:04:48.480 --> 0:04:53.880 with Houston running back Joe Mixon we're going to go 0:04:53.960 --> 0:04:56.040 youngest to oldest. By the way, this is the youngest 0:04:56.120 --> 0:04:58.479 player we're going to talk about. He's aged twenty nine. 0:04:59.080 --> 0:05:04.680 He's had two thousand, three hundred career touches, so that's 0:05:04.760 --> 0:05:11.120 you know, the touches, obviously rushes and receptions. So can 0:05:11.160 --> 0:05:14.040 we ring out one more good year from Joe Mixon. 0:05:14.240 --> 0:05:16.479 I will let you take the stage first match. 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:19.600 Well, last year, I thought since he let mix and 0:05:19.680 --> 0:05:22.479 walk because I thought that the Bengals knew that he 0:05:22.640 --> 0:05:25.520 was cooked. So all the preseason I was like, don't 0:05:25.560 --> 0:05:28.640 draft Joe Mix and don't draft Joe Mix and and 0:05:28.720 --> 0:05:30.599 I looked like I had some egg on my face 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:33.279 for the first two months of the year because despite 0:05:33.320 --> 0:05:35.599 even missing a couple of games in weeks three through 0:05:35.640 --> 0:05:39.560 five through Week eleven, Mixon had six one hundred yard 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:42.719 rushing days and it scored eleven touchdowns. He looked awesome. 0:05:43.120 --> 0:05:45.800 He was thriving in an offense that really had some 0:05:45.920 --> 0:05:49.520 noted offensive line issues and vary those are still there, 0:05:50.440 --> 0:05:53.400 by the way, But then the gales of November turned 0:05:53.400 --> 0:05:54.159 gloomy there. 0:05:54.200 --> 0:06:00.400 Reference then, Yeah, from Week twelve through the Texans two 0:06:00.520 --> 0:06:05.080 playoff games, Mixon averaged fifteen carries per game and only 0:06:05.120 --> 0:06:09.200 managed fifty six yards per game with stone could killers 0:06:09.640 --> 0:06:12.800 in the Fantasy playoffs, where he failed the top eight 0:06:12.960 --> 0:06:15.800 PPR points in weeks fifteen through seventeen. 0:06:15.880 --> 0:06:18.960 So all the people who rode him into the playoffs 0:06:20.000 --> 0:06:22.200 rowed right out of the playoffs if they were still 0:06:22.200 --> 0:06:24.240 on the back of Joe Mixon, because three point six 0:06:24.360 --> 0:06:27.799 yards per carry down the stretch. To me, I guess 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:31.840 that's screams that he's done, Like stick a fork in him. 0:06:32.520 --> 0:06:35.880 So the other thing here is they signed Nick Chubb, 0:06:36.040 --> 0:06:39.520 who is also twenty nine years old and missed most 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:41.920 of the last two years with a knee injury. And 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:44.640 I've seen some of the videos of his rehab where 0:06:44.680 --> 0:06:48.440 he was jumping literally head into the ceiling tiles in 0:06:48.560 --> 0:06:52.120 the gym he was working out in. I feel like 0:06:52.320 --> 0:06:55.720 Nick Chubb and Joe Mixon are at least splitting carries 0:06:55.760 --> 0:07:00.480 this year, if not maybe worse. Maybe it goes in 0:07:00.600 --> 0:07:03.359 Nick Chubb's favor, because yeah, maybe he is a little 0:07:03.360 --> 0:07:06.880 bit more fresh off of basically two years of not 0:07:06.920 --> 0:07:08.520 having wear and tear on him. 0:07:08.440 --> 0:07:13.440 Right other than the reconstructive knee surgery, Yes, there was 0:07:13.440 --> 0:07:17.440 some tear and it's a literal tear, Yes, the wear 0:07:17.480 --> 0:07:17.840 and tear. 0:07:18.760 --> 0:07:21.520 So with that said, I'm just going to be out 0:07:21.520 --> 0:07:25.280 on Joe Mix and again if I'm wrong again, I 0:07:25.280 --> 0:07:27.280 feel like I jumped out a year two early than 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:29.000 a year too late, and I'd rather do that. 0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:32.840 Yeah, I have almost all the exact same talking points here. 0:07:33.560 --> 0:07:36.760 Texans offensive line that was bad last year doesn't look 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:39.000 any bit better this year. I thought, I thought after 0:07:39.040 --> 0:07:42.000 they traded Laramie Tunsel, the Texans were going to do 0:07:42.120 --> 0:07:45.840 a massive overhaul. Nope. They ranked thirtieth in run block 0:07:45.920 --> 0:07:49.080 win rate last year, twenty seventh in PFF's run block rating, 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:51.680 and honestly, talent wise, this line doesn't look much better. 0:07:52.080 --> 0:07:55.520 So there's that. You've very correctly noted how Mixon ran 0:07:55.560 --> 0:07:58.240 out of gas last year, and so the question, So 0:07:58.320 --> 0:08:00.640 last year ran out of gas in November December, So 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:04.720 this year, a year older, does it turn into October 0:08:05.120 --> 0:08:09.000 November December? And you mentioned the Nick Chubb part. You 0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:12.560 and I are both no on Joe mix and ringing 0:08:12.600 --> 0:08:16.200 out another year. You know, I wish we had we 0:08:16.240 --> 0:08:19.239 don't have. I don't know with the sound of ringing 0:08:19.360 --> 0:08:21.320 out like of a mop, I don't we don't have 0:08:21.440 --> 0:08:24.560 like a splashy, watery sound. But what about ringing of 0:08:24.560 --> 0:08:30.520 a bell? Do we have a bell? Maybe that really 0:08:31.400 --> 0:08:35.439 I mean, that's Sad Trombonesky right there. Yes, yes, we 0:08:35.800 --> 0:08:36.160 don't need. 0:08:36.160 --> 0:08:38.240 To talk about Mitch Trubisky enough, no. 0:08:38.200 --> 0:08:42.360 Never anymore. And honestly, you know all the great nicknames 0:08:42.440 --> 0:08:45.360 we've had in the history of this show, Matt, I 0:08:45.400 --> 0:08:48.440 think I think Sad Trombonesky is right at or near 0:08:48.480 --> 0:08:51.120 the top. And maybe it's because I came up with 0:08:51.160 --> 0:08:54.079 that one, and I want to just self congratulate myself, 0:08:54.280 --> 0:08:55.319 but maybe that's it. 0:08:56.520 --> 0:08:58.640 I believe I was the one who coined the air 0:08:58.679 --> 0:09:01.040 bear terms that I'm Marshall for that. 0:09:01.559 --> 0:09:03.600 I have the Airbear T shirt I warded a couple 0:09:03.640 --> 0:09:07.959 of days ago. It is a good T shirt. That 0:09:08.080 --> 0:09:13.160 is a good T shirt, all right. Our next contestant, 0:09:13.200 --> 0:09:17.840 age thirty New Orleans running back Alvin Kamara two thousand, 0:09:18.000 --> 0:09:24.120 two hundred career touches and last year Camara in a 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:27.680 really tough spot, quarterback goes down, all the wide receivers 0:09:27.720 --> 0:09:31.200 go down. Offensive line just battered, half of the offensive 0:09:31.200 --> 0:09:36.000 lines missing, and he was still shockingly good. He posted 0:09:36.040 --> 0:09:40.439 his highest yards per carry. In three seasons, he had 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:43.040 an eighteen percent broken tackle rate, which isn't great, but 0:09:43.760 --> 0:09:46.320 that's exactly what Saquon Barkley had. James Cook had an 0:09:46.360 --> 0:09:50.360 eighteen percent broken tackle rate, so it's not terrible. Finished 0:09:50.400 --> 0:09:54.679 with his highest PFF grade in four seasons last year, 0:09:54.720 --> 0:09:57.600 Alvin Kamara. And they did draft a new left tackle, 0:09:57.679 --> 0:10:00.400 Kelvin Banks. He'll be an immediate starter for the and 0:10:00.520 --> 0:10:04.600 hopefully an improvement. And you get Chris Alabby back, you 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:09.760 give Rashid she Heed back. I still think given that 0:10:10.720 --> 0:10:13.079 we don't even know for sure who the quarterbacks going 0:10:13.120 --> 0:10:16.360 to be now, probably Tyler Shuck, but I think Kamara's 0:10:16.400 --> 0:10:17.920 gonna have to carry a lot of the burden again. 0:10:17.960 --> 0:10:19.400 I think he's gonna get a lot of carries, and 0:10:19.400 --> 0:10:22.840 he looked good last year, So I'm on, yes, Alvin 0:10:22.920 --> 0:10:27.280 Kamara ringing out one more good year. What say you, Matt? 0:10:28.760 --> 0:10:32.000 I have just kind of this general thing in the 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:35.400 way that I draft for fantasy, and if you're an 0:10:35.400 --> 0:10:38.280 offense that I deemed to be a bottom five offense, 0:10:38.320 --> 0:10:43.280 I think normally yeah, and there's just too many things 0:10:43.320 --> 0:10:45.760 here that I just think are going against the Saints. 0:10:45.800 --> 0:10:48.840 I'm more out on him. On Kamara, just because I'm 0:10:48.840 --> 0:10:50.800 out on the Saints, I think he'll get the most 0:10:50.840 --> 0:10:54.520 touches on the team if he's healthy, Tyler Shuck, as 0:10:54.520 --> 0:10:58.839 you said the likely starter. That will cause a lot 0:10:58.880 --> 0:11:02.320 of touches for Alvin kam Yeah, for sure, but it 0:11:02.320 --> 0:11:05.200 will also cause a lot of eight or nine man 0:11:05.240 --> 0:11:10.760 boxes for Helen Kamara. And I just I feel like 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:13.959 it will treat you well if you avoid the Saints roster. 0:11:14.400 --> 0:11:16.040 I don't think that you're going to be sad if 0:11:16.040 --> 0:11:17.400 you missed out on Alvin Kamara. 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:20.080 All right, so we have we're split on this one. 0:11:20.120 --> 0:11:23.280 I'm a yes, you are a no on Alvin Kamara. 0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:26.480 I if he was via Fantasy valuable last year, it's 0:11:26.520 --> 0:11:28.520 hard to believe that this offense will be worse this year. 0:11:28.559 --> 0:11:33.920 For me. Let's go to age thirty Arizona running back 0:11:34.080 --> 0:11:40.280 James Connor one thousand and six hundred career touches. Matt, 0:11:40.679 --> 0:11:42.760 give me. I'll let you go first. On James Connor, 0:11:42.800 --> 0:11:44.320 can we ring out one more good year? 0:11:45.360 --> 0:11:47.760 Well, we've been trying to write him off for about 0:11:47.800 --> 0:11:52.319 five years now. Again, industry, everybody's just been sick of 0:11:52.440 --> 0:11:55.360 James Connor and this goes back to the I have 0:11:55.480 --> 0:11:59.880 this theory that guys with boring names nobody wants to draft, 0:12:00.200 --> 0:12:03.760 and James Connor is about the most boring name in football, 0:12:04.080 --> 0:12:07.680 especially for a running back. Alvin Kamara, that sounds cool, 0:12:07.800 --> 0:12:13.760 Joe Mixon, it's got an X in it. Yeah, you know, 0:12:14.480 --> 0:12:18.280 James Connor. All he's done. As we've been trying to 0:12:18.280 --> 0:12:21.400 write him off, is responded with maybe his best two 0:12:21.440 --> 0:12:24.400 years as a pro. In the last two seasons. He's 0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:27.559 averaged five point zero and four point six yards per 0:12:27.600 --> 0:12:30.120 carry the last two years, top the one thousand rushing 0:12:30.160 --> 0:12:33.319 yards in both seasons. He scored nine times in each 0:12:33.360 --> 0:12:39.400 of the last two years. Charge he doesn't have a 0:12:39.559 --> 0:12:43.240 clear guy competing for touches because Trey Benson is is 0:12:43.240 --> 0:12:46.400 the biggest threat. He was the second running back drafted 0:12:46.520 --> 0:12:49.520 last year, but they only gave him like four touches 0:12:49.559 --> 0:12:53.040 per game last year, and Mari Demarcato and Michael Carter 0:12:53.240 --> 0:12:56.640 almost had the same number of touches as Trey Benson. 0:12:56.800 --> 0:13:00.480 So if Connor falls in drafts, and he's currently going 0:13:00.520 --> 0:13:03.120 in the early fifth round, and I think he will 0:13:03.160 --> 0:13:05.280 because he's old and he's got the boring name, Yeah, 0:13:05.320 --> 0:13:07.200 I'll take a flyer on him if he gets down 0:13:07.240 --> 0:13:10.520 to like the sixth round, for the seventh round in drafts. 0:13:10.559 --> 0:13:13.160 I think that that's great value there. And I think 0:13:13.200 --> 0:13:14.680 it's just going to be more of the same for 0:13:14.800 --> 0:13:17.800 James Connor until he actually does get hurt and then 0:13:17.800 --> 0:13:18.720 it's probably over. 0:13:19.679 --> 0:13:23.520 Yeah, which hopefully we're not wishing for that whatsoever. Yes, 0:13:23.880 --> 0:13:27.120 he's I've got I've also got a Yes, we're gonna 0:13:27.200 --> 0:13:28.880 ring more and one more good year out of James 0:13:28.920 --> 0:13:31.000 Connor from many of the same points that you mentioned. 0:13:31.000 --> 0:13:34.200 He's coming off arguably the best season of his career 0:13:34.360 --> 0:13:38.640 last year in a lot of metrics, including avoided tackle rate. 0:13:39.080 --> 0:13:41.560 He was third best and avoided tackle rate last year, 0:13:41.679 --> 0:13:45.319 but number one if of of running backs at least 0:13:45.320 --> 0:13:48.720 one hundred and sixty carries. You know, James Connor looked 0:13:48.720 --> 0:13:51.360 good and I don't know, I absolutely passed the eye test, 0:13:51.400 --> 0:13:55.760 the metric test. Now, Cardinals didn't change their offense at 0:13:55.760 --> 0:13:59.080 all last year this past offseason, so they rolling with 0:13:59.160 --> 0:14:04.920 the same offense like, no substantive changes whatsoever. But so 0:14:05.000 --> 0:14:06.400 I just think it's gonna be more of the same, 0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:10.680 which is just you know, consistent, good B level RB 0:14:10.840 --> 0:14:17.040 two levels of production for James Connord. We'll take it absolutely, 0:14:17.120 --> 0:14:21.400 all right. Last guy before the break, Miami wide receiver 0:14:21.520 --> 0:14:26.080 Tyreek Hill is aged thirty one, Matt. He's got one 0:14:26.080 --> 0:14:29.720 thousand career touches. That includes some runs because he's run 0:14:29.760 --> 0:14:33.720 the ball a bit more than most wide receivers. Last year, 0:14:35.080 --> 0:14:38.960 Hill's play fell off a cliff, a totally different guy. 0:14:39.080 --> 0:14:40.840 And there's a lot of people that are like, oh, well, 0:14:40.840 --> 0:14:43.440 TWA missed all that time, all right, yeah, two A 0:14:43.520 --> 0:14:47.960 missed five full games. But in the twelve games with 0:14:48.200 --> 0:14:52.640 Tua twelve, Hill was still not reliable at all. He 0:14:52.720 --> 0:14:57.320 only had two top ten finishes in those twelve games. 0:14:57.880 --> 0:15:01.960 He had five finishes at wide receiver thirty or worse. 0:15:02.240 --> 0:15:07.920 Last year, Tyreek posted a career low PFF grade. He 0:15:08.000 --> 0:15:12.280 had thirty eight fewer receptions than last year, eight hundred 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:15.840 and forty fewer yards than the previous year. And for 0:15:15.880 --> 0:15:19.280 a guy who is known for explosive plays, his yards 0:15:19.320 --> 0:15:23.040 after the catch dropped to three point six per game 0:15:23.160 --> 0:15:28.680 up per catch. That's thirty fifth among starting wide outs. 0:15:29.280 --> 0:15:31.360 That's it. I mean, he's supposed to be like, just 0:15:31.440 --> 0:15:33.520 get the ball in his hands and magic happens with 0:15:33.560 --> 0:15:36.680 Tyreek Hill. Nothing happened after he got the ball in 0:15:36.680 --> 0:15:38.800 his hands. He got tackled. That's what happened. 0:15:38.840 --> 0:15:39.640 No magic. 0:15:41.120 --> 0:15:41.480 At all. 0:15:41.600 --> 0:15:46.160 Yep. He played all seventeen games. He posted six year 0:15:46.320 --> 0:15:49.960 lows in receptions, yards and explosive plays of twenty more yards. 0:15:50.560 --> 0:15:53.120 I do not think we're gonna ring one more good 0:15:53.160 --> 0:15:56.080 year out of Tyreek Hill. What do you think, Matt? 0:15:56.920 --> 0:15:59.240 Yeah, I think you're you're kind of dead on here. 0:15:59.280 --> 0:16:03.040 And I'll just to add for Tyreek Hill to be 0:16:03.040 --> 0:16:07.120 a success and to draft him where he's going ADP 0:16:07.280 --> 0:16:09.480 in the third round. It feels like you need to 0:16:09.520 --> 0:16:13.360 get twelve hundred dish yards and ten touchdowns out of 0:16:13.400 --> 0:16:18.160 Tyreek Hill. That seems pretty fair. In an age thirty 0:16:18.200 --> 0:16:23.080 one season, those benchmarks have only been hit nine times 0:16:23.120 --> 0:16:24.000 by a wide receiver. 0:16:24.760 --> 0:16:26.440 That's it nice. 0:16:26.920 --> 0:16:29.600 Ever, in an age thirty one season, the most recent 0:16:30.360 --> 0:16:33.840 was ten years ago. What and it was Jordy Nelson. 0:16:35.080 --> 0:16:40.760 Wow, that's an awesome stat. So Jordy Nelson was the 0:16:41.000 --> 0:16:44.080 last thirty one year old receiver to hit twelve hundred 0:16:44.120 --> 0:16:45.840 yards and ten touchdowns. 0:16:45.840 --> 0:16:52.360 Correct, That's amazing. So it just doesn't seem like it's 0:16:52.400 --> 0:16:55.480 there anymore. It seems he almost had half of the 0:16:55.680 --> 0:16:58.720 receiving yards that he had the previous year. And oh, 0:16:58.760 --> 0:17:01.320 by the way, he played one one more game in 0:17:01.400 --> 0:17:03.560 twenty twenty four than he did in twenty twenty three. 0:17:04.520 --> 0:17:07.280 I just think that the end is much closer than 0:17:07.280 --> 0:17:10.960 we anticipate, and for a speed guy like that, it 0:17:11.080 --> 0:17:13.120 just doesn't seem like it's gonna work out for him. 0:17:13.240 --> 0:17:15.480 I'd avoid Tyreek at all costs. 0:17:15.600 --> 0:17:18.120 All right, Well, at the cost is the third round. 0:17:18.200 --> 0:17:20.359 That's too rich for my blood as well. We are 0:17:20.359 --> 0:17:23.280 both a no on Tyreek Hill. When we come back, 0:17:23.680 --> 0:17:28.360 we'll start creeping into age thirty two seasons. Find out 0:17:28.400 --> 0:17:32.120 about this next and final batch of old men when 0:17:32.240 --> 0:17:42.240 we come back. Fantasy Football Weekly, Segment two Fantasy Football Weekly, 0:17:42.280 --> 0:17:45.640 Paul Charchi and Matt Harrison with you. We're talking through 0:17:45.960 --> 0:17:49.440 older players who have been very productive we hope will 0:17:49.440 --> 0:17:52.120 continue to be productive. But can we ring out one 0:17:52.200 --> 0:17:55.040 more good year from these guys? So far, Matt and 0:17:55.080 --> 0:17:58.120 I have agreed on three of our four previous players. 0:17:58.480 --> 0:18:02.600 We next turn our attention Matt to thirty two year 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:05.680 old or soon to be thirty two year old Los 0:18:05.760 --> 0:18:11.800 Angeles Rams Wide receiver Davante Adams with oney twenty nine 0:18:12.119 --> 0:18:15.800 career touches. What do you think about Davante Adams? Can 0:18:15.840 --> 0:18:17.160 we ring out one more good year? 0:18:18.000 --> 0:18:19.960 So I mean I could run back kind of the 0:18:20.000 --> 0:18:22.919 same stats about Tyreek and attach them to Adams. But 0:18:23.040 --> 0:18:26.000 there's something else I want to mention. It's the new 0:18:26.040 --> 0:18:29.600 team bump. Oh, especially the new team bump you sat 0:18:29.840 --> 0:18:33.639 franchise like Joe Mixon did it last year. He had 0:18:33.640 --> 0:18:35.400 a nice little bump at the beginning of the year. 0:18:35.720 --> 0:18:38.359 So did Davante Adams when he was traded to the Jets. 0:18:38.440 --> 0:18:43.119 By the way, even Jerry Judy had a new bump 0:18:43.200 --> 0:18:46.679 last year. So new situations that teams that want you 0:18:46.920 --> 0:18:50.240 often bring some confidence and success. And Adams walks into 0:18:50.240 --> 0:18:53.560 a role vacated by Cooper Cup, and Cup averaged eight 0:18:53.600 --> 0:18:56.400 targets per game in a season where he just looked 0:18:56.480 --> 0:19:00.639 cooked and I couldn't get anything done anymore. Adams finished 0:19:00.680 --> 0:19:03.400 his wide receiver twelve last year. He's a wide receiver 0:19:03.480 --> 0:19:07.800 one in stats, and he's had success everywhere he's been, 0:19:08.000 --> 0:19:13.400 even with Gardner Minshew and other quarterbacks in Vegas. He's 0:19:13.440 --> 0:19:17.480 been successful wherever he's been. Stafford is accurate and competent 0:19:17.560 --> 0:19:19.200 enough for me to be interested. We're going to talk 0:19:19.200 --> 0:19:21.720 more about Stafford a little bit later, but I'm in 0:19:21.760 --> 0:19:22.639 on Devonte Adams. 0:19:22.680 --> 0:19:25.080 How are you? You're in on Adams? I am also 0:19:25.160 --> 0:19:27.360 in on Adams. This is the best offense he's been 0:19:27.400 --> 0:19:32.960 in since his Aaron Rodgers days, and I like, I've 0:19:33.000 --> 0:19:35.040 got a lot of the same talking points I Last 0:19:35.080 --> 0:19:40.199 year he looked good and last season posted a sixty 0:19:40.200 --> 0:19:43.600 percent catch rate, his highest level since his Green Bay 0:19:43.680 --> 0:19:45.879 days when he was catching from Aaron Rodgers. I think 0:19:45.920 --> 0:19:51.000 he gets a quarterback upgrade here. And he's not a 0:19:51.040 --> 0:19:53.280 pure slot receiver like Cooper Cup, but he runs from 0:19:53.280 --> 0:19:55.399 the slot enough that'll take some of those routes that 0:19:55.440 --> 0:19:58.119 you had mentioned the eight targets per game the Cooper 0:19:58.160 --> 0:20:00.159 Cup had when Cooper Cup was, as you may, and 0:20:00.359 --> 0:20:04.240 way more cooked than Devonte Adams. So he and he 0:20:04.320 --> 0:20:08.399 actually ran more slot routes last year Adams did than 0:20:08.440 --> 0:20:12.120 he did outside routes. So you know, I don't see 0:20:12.119 --> 0:20:14.040 the drop off comings. I don't think it's gonna be 0:20:14.080 --> 0:20:16.560 sudden here. I think Adams gets one more good season, 0:20:16.760 --> 0:20:22.600 and with with Pukainakua drawing a lot of attention. It's 0:20:22.640 --> 0:20:24.480 gonna be a lot of one on one for DeVante Adams, 0:20:24.520 --> 0:20:26.040 and I think he's sitting on a nice season, so 0:20:26.119 --> 0:20:29.040 we both believe he's going to ring out another good season. 0:20:31.240 --> 0:20:38.240 Next up, age thirty five Kansas City tight end Travis 0:20:38.320 --> 0:20:40.000 Kelsey twelve. 0:20:39.640 --> 0:20:41.639 Harder acting like these guys are so old. 0:20:41.640 --> 0:20:43.159 By the way, thirty five years old. 0:20:43.800 --> 0:20:45.919 I mean that's ten years younger than me. 0:20:47.440 --> 0:20:51.160 Well we are not. Well, you could be a professional ballplayer, 0:20:51.200 --> 0:20:53.200 don't get me wrong. I mean I think you absolutely 0:20:53.200 --> 0:20:53.919 have it inside you. 0:20:54.680 --> 0:20:55.439 Yeah, I probably do. 0:20:55.960 --> 0:21:02.440 Kelsey had it sort of a gentle slide into not mediocrity, 0:21:02.480 --> 0:21:06.239 but he took a slide backwards last year. Although I'll 0:21:06.280 --> 0:21:08.040 credit him for staying healthy again. I mean, one of 0:21:08.080 --> 0:21:10.520 the most bankable qualities you get out of Travis Kelcey. 0:21:11.240 --> 0:21:16.080 Dude stays healthy, he plays games. But just looking at 0:21:16.119 --> 0:21:19.240 Travis Kelcey, you can see he's slowing down. And there's 0:21:19.240 --> 0:21:22.280 some metrics to back that up. Per next Gen stats, 0:21:22.320 --> 0:21:26.640 his yards per catch plummeted down to three point seven 0:21:26.960 --> 0:21:30.080 yards per catch. That's it, and that's awfully close the 0:21:30.119 --> 0:21:32.240 line of scrimmage. It's hard to be a fantasy factor 0:21:32.400 --> 0:21:35.880 when you're catching the ball four yards downfield. That's down 0:21:35.880 --> 0:21:37.800 from five and a half yards the year before that. 0:21:38.560 --> 0:21:41.040 And thank you. 0:21:41.800 --> 0:21:45.720 Kelsey's separation dropped from three point seven yards to three 0:21:45.760 --> 0:21:48.560 point two yards, so defenders are getting closer to him, 0:21:48.560 --> 0:21:51.240 which also suggests he's losing a little to speed, little 0:21:51.280 --> 0:21:56.040 to wiggle. And he fell from fifth to thirteenth an 0:21:56.200 --> 0:21:59.280 end zone target percentage, which explains why I only had 0:21:59.280 --> 0:22:02.480 three touchdowns in the regular season last year. So and 0:22:02.520 --> 0:22:04.280 here he is entering h thirty five. I mean, I 0:22:04.320 --> 0:22:06.320 just don't I just don't see a tight end at 0:22:06.320 --> 0:22:11.360 age thirty five reversing those trends. Matt, So, I am 0:22:11.400 --> 0:22:14.720 going to go no on Travis Kelcey will not ring 0:22:14.760 --> 0:22:17.680