1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: Welcome to Fantasy Football Weekly, a production of iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 2: Time now for Fantasy Football Weekly from iHeartRadio, your weekly 3 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 2: source for the nation's best fantasy football advice, speculation, and 4 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 2: whatever stupid stuff they decided to drop into the show. 5 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 2: Now here's your host, Paul Chargion. 6 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 1: It's another edition of Fantasy Football Weekly. My co host 7 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: today Matt Harrison. Hey, Matt, welcome back to the show. 8 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 1: It's only been a couple of weeks for you. 9 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's only been a couple of weeks for me. 10 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 3: A couple of big weeks for you, though, as you're 11 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 3: now fully in that state with all we can you know, 12 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 3: right angles on everything. 13 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 1: Yes, exactly. I'm going to see our other co host, 14 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: Scott fish this weekend. It's the first Scott fish Bowl 15 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 1: live event of the year is coming this weekend. He's 16 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 1: flying to Las Vegas. I'm driving to Las Vegas. We'll 17 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: have our first opportunity to uh to draft our Scott 18 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 1: fish Bowl teams and not. 19 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 3: Feeling mostually unprepared, I do I draft right now. 20 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: I prepared because he's got of course, he's got all 21 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: the weird scoring system stuff and this this year is 22 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 1: all about just like usage you're just looking for guys 23 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: who get the ball in their hand as much as 24 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: you can. I'm hoping the Fantasy Life cheat sheet is 25 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: going to be of a supreme help here the the 26 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: I have not done my I've done my own season 27 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: long rankings, but not attuned to the Scott fish Bowl 28 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: scoring system. 29 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 3: So yeah, the Scott fish Bowl is always the one 30 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 3: for me that it catches me off guard every year, 31 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 3: like it's like, oh, no studying, because it's always like 32 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 3: right after the fourth of July and everything, and I'm 33 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 3: usually coming back from a family trip and I haven't 34 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 3: really dug into fantasy football for the season yet, and 35 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 3: so it's always It's always a fun one for me. 36 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 3: But I have a new strategy this year charge since 37 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 3: for about the last five years, my Scott fish Bowl 38 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 3: team has just been plagued by this curse. And it's 39 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 3: every player I draft get hurt, retires, Andrew Luck retire 40 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 3: on me like the day after I drafted him, all 41 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 3: that stuff. So I decided this year as as a 42 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 3: Minnesota Vikings fan, yeah, drafting at the live draft in 43 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 3: Minnesota in the Minnesota Vikings Division, mind you right, that 44 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 3: I will only be taking NFC North teams that are 45 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 3: not the Vikings. 46 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: You're taking all Bears, Packers, and Lions. 47 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 3: I'm going to bring. I might sprinkle in an Eagle 48 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 3: in there or a ram or something like that, but 49 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 3: I think I'm just gonna take highest adp guy within 50 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 3: from those teams. 51 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,239 Speaker 1: I think you should go hardcore and do only those 52 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 1: three teams. 53 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 3: It would it would be really funny. 54 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 1: It would be funny. Your teams won't do any worse 55 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: than they've done in the past. 56 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:06,119 Speaker 3: So oh yeah, and if I curse them all, it's fantastic. 57 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 1: Do any of them share a bye week because that 58 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 1: would be a problem. 59 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, that might be an issue. So I might have to, 60 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 3: you know, in the twentieth round of the draft, might 61 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 3: have to, you know, go off the board a little bit, right, 62 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 3: But I think I will probably stay completely in the NFC. 63 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 3: And it's not a secret. I told everybody in my 64 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 3: draft that I was doing this, so they know what's coming. 65 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,519 Speaker 1: I go NFC north Man, go hardcore on, just lean 66 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: into this thing. That's my advice. Yeah, that's my advice. 67 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: On this week's show, we are talking about older players 68 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: and can we ring one more good year out of 69 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: these aged players? Who've been good. These are in some 70 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: cases players that are potentially even like Hall of Fame 71 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: level players. Can we get one more good year out 72 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: of these guys? Man, we'll both do a thumbs up 73 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: thumbs downs. We'll see how many we agree on disagree. 74 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: I bet we're going right here in a little bit 75 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: of Cisco and Ebert. Do you think the kids know 76 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: who Ciskel and Ebert are? 77 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 3: Not A chance? 78 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: No chance? 79 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 3: Okay, I would guess there's not too many kids listening 80 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 3: to this show. 81 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: That's probably true. 82 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 3: Our demo is a little older. 83 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, that's probably true. They've probably I'd like to 84 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 1: think people our listeners have grown up with us, gotten 85 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: ranked with us, scotten overweight. 86 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 3: Understanding that like churches, the Aura Maxer or something like that, 87 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 3: you know, like then it makes sense. 88 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: I don't know what that means. Do I want to 89 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 1: be an Aura max. 90 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 3: In Skibbety all that stuff. I'm just repeating stuff my kids, 91 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 3: your kids say. 92 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: I don't. Yeah, I don't. I don't. I don't know 93 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 1: what any of that means. I'm sorry to say. I 94 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 1: guess that makes me really word all right? We begin 95 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: with Houston running back Joe Mixon we're going to go 96 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 1: youngest to oldest. By the way, this is the youngest 97 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 1: player we're going to talk about. He's aged twenty nine. 98 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: He's had two thousand, three hundred career touches, so that's 99 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: you know, the touches, obviously rushes and receptions. So can 100 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 1: we ring out one more good year from Joe Mixon. 101 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 1: I will let you take the stage first match. 102 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 3: Well, last year, I thought since he let mix and 103 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 3: walk because I thought that the Bengals knew that he 104 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 3: was cooked. So all the preseason I was like, don't 105 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 3: draft Joe Mix and don't draft Joe Mix and and 106 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 3: I looked like I had some egg on my face 107 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 3: for the first two months of the year because despite 108 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 3: even missing a couple of games in weeks three through 109 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 3: five through Week eleven, Mixon had six one hundred yard 110 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 3: rushing days and it scored eleven touchdowns. He looked awesome. 111 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 3: He was thriving in an offense that really had some 112 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 3: noted offensive line issues and vary those are still there, 113 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 3: by the way, But then the gales of November turned 114 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 3: gloomy there. 115 00:05:54,200 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 4: Reference then, Yeah, from Week twelve through the Texans two 116 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 4: playoff games, Mixon averaged fifteen carries per game and only 117 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 4: managed fifty six yards per game with stone could killers 118 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 4: in the Fantasy playoffs, where he failed the top eight 119 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 4: PPR points in weeks fifteen through seventeen. 120 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 3: So all the people who rode him into the playoffs 121 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 3: rowed right out of the playoffs if they were still 122 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 3: on the back of Joe Mixon, because three point six 123 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,799 Speaker 3: yards per carry down the stretch. To me, I guess 124 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 3: that's screams that he's done, Like stick a fork in him. 125 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 3: So the other thing here is they signed Nick Chubb, 126 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 3: who is also twenty nine years old and missed most 127 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 3: of the last two years with a knee injury. And 128 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 3: I've seen some of the videos of his rehab where 129 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 3: he was jumping literally head into the ceiling tiles in 130 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 3: the gym he was working out in. I feel like 131 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 3: Nick Chubb and Joe Mixon are at least splitting carries 132 00:06:55,760 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 3: this year, if not maybe worse. Maybe it goes in 133 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,359 Speaker 3: Nick Chubb's favor, because yeah, maybe he is a little 134 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 3: bit more fresh off of basically two years of not 135 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 3: having wear and tear on him. 136 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: Right other than the reconstructive knee surgery, Yes, there was 137 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: some tear and it's a literal tear, Yes, the wear 138 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: and tear. 139 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 3: So with that said, I'm just going to be out 140 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 3: on Joe Mix and again if I'm wrong again, I 141 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 3: feel like I jumped out a year two early than 142 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 3: a year too late, and I'd rather do that. 143 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I have almost all the exact same talking points here. 144 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: Texans offensive line that was bad last year doesn't look 145 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: any bit better this year. I thought, I thought after 146 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: they traded Laramie Tunsel, the Texans were going to do 147 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: a massive overhaul. Nope. They ranked thirtieth in run block 148 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: win rate last year, twenty seventh in PFF's run block rating, 149 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: and honestly, talent wise, this line doesn't look much better. 150 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: So there's that. You've very correctly noted how Mixon ran 151 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: out of gas last year, and so the question, So 152 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: last year ran out of gas in November December, So 153 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: this year, a year older, does it turn into October 154 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: November December? And you mentioned the Nick Chubb part. You 155 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: and I are both no on Joe mix and ringing 156 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: out another year. You know, I wish we had we 157 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:19,239 Speaker 1: don't have. I don't know with the sound of ringing 158 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: out like of a mop, I don't we don't have 159 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: like a splashy, watery sound. But what about ringing of 160 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: a bell? Do we have a bell? Maybe that really 161 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:35,439 Speaker 1: I mean, that's Sad Trombonesky right there. Yes, yes, we 162 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: don't need. 163 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 3: To talk about Mitch Trubisky enough, no. 164 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: Never anymore. And honestly, you know all the great nicknames 165 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: we've had in the history of this show, Matt, I 166 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 1: think I think Sad Trombonesky is right at or near 167 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: the top. And maybe it's because I came up with 168 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:54,079 Speaker 1: that one, and I want to just self congratulate myself, 169 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:55,319 Speaker 1: but maybe that's it. 170 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 3: I believe I was the one who coined the air 171 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 3: bear terms that I'm Marshall for that. 172 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: I have the Airbear T shirt I warded a couple 173 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:07,959 Speaker 1: of days ago. It is a good T shirt. That 174 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: is a good T shirt, all right. Our next contestant, 175 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 1: age thirty New Orleans running back Alvin Kamara two thousand, 176 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: two hundred career touches and last year Camara in a 177 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 1: really tough spot, quarterback goes down, all the wide receivers 178 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 1: go down. Offensive line just battered, half of the offensive 179 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: lines missing, and he was still shockingly good. He posted 180 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:40,439 Speaker 1: his highest yards per carry. In three seasons, he had 181 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: an eighteen percent broken tackle rate, which isn't great, but 182 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 1: that's exactly what Saquon Barkley had. James Cook had an 183 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: eighteen percent broken tackle rate, so it's not terrible. Finished 184 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 1: with his highest PFF grade in four seasons last year, 185 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara. And they did draft a new left tackle, 186 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: Kelvin Banks. He'll be an immediate starter for the and 187 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: hopefully an improvement. And you get Chris Alabby back, you 188 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: give Rashid she Heed back. I still think given that 189 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,079 Speaker 1: we don't even know for sure who the quarterbacks going 190 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: to be now, probably Tyler Shuck, but I think Kamara's 191 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: gonna have to carry a lot of the burden again. 192 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna get a lot of carries, and 193 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 1: he looked good last year, So I'm on, yes, Alvin 194 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: Kamara ringing out one more good year. What say you, Matt? 195 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 3: I have just kind of this general thing in the 196 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 3: way that I draft for fantasy, and if you're an 197 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 3: offense that I deemed to be a bottom five offense, 198 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 3: I think normally yeah, and there's just too many things 199 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 3: here that I just think are going against the Saints. 200 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 3: I'm more out on him. On Kamara, just because I'm 201 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 3: out on the Saints, I think he'll get the most 202 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 3: touches on the team if he's healthy, Tyler Shuck, as 203 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:58,839 Speaker 3: you said the likely starter. That will cause a lot 204 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 3: of touches for Alvin kam Yeah, for sure, but it 205 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 3: will also cause a lot of eight or nine man 206 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 3: boxes for Helen Kamara. And I just I feel like 207 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,959 Speaker 3: it will treat you well if you avoid the Saints roster. 208 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 3: I don't think that you're going to be sad if 209 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 3: you missed out on Alvin Kamara. 210 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 1: All right, so we have we're split on this one. 211 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: I'm a yes, you are a no on Alvin Kamara. 212 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: I if he was via Fantasy valuable last year, it's 213 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: hard to believe that this offense will be worse this year. 214 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: For me. Let's go to age thirty Arizona running back 215 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: James Connor one thousand and six hundred career touches. Matt, 216 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: give me. I'll let you go first. On James Connor, 217 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 1: can we ring out one more good year? 218 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 3: Well, we've been trying to write him off for about 219 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:52,319 Speaker 3: five years now. Again, industry, everybody's just been sick of 220 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 3: James Connor and this goes back to the I have 221 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 3: this theory that guys with boring names nobody wants to draft, 222 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 3: and James Connor is about the most boring name in football, 223 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 3: especially for a running back. Alvin Kamara, that sounds cool, 224 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 3: Joe Mixon, it's got an X in it. Yeah, you know, 225 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 3: James Connor. All he's done. As we've been trying to 226 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 3: write him off, is responded with maybe his best two 227 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 3: years as a pro. In the last two seasons. He's 228 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,559 Speaker 3: averaged five point zero and four point six yards per 229 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 3: carry the last two years, top the one thousand rushing 230 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:33,319 Speaker 3: yards in both seasons. He scored nine times in each 231 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 3: of the last two years. Charge he doesn't have a 232 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 3: clear guy competing for touches because Trey Benson is is 233 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 3: the biggest threat. He was the second running back drafted 234 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 3: last year, but they only gave him like four touches 235 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 3: per game last year, and Mari Demarcato and Michael Carter 236 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 3: almost had the same number of touches as Trey Benson. 237 00:12:56,800 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 3: So if Connor falls in drafts, and he's currently going 238 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 3: in the early fifth round, and I think he will 239 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 3: because he's old and he's got the boring name, Yeah, 240 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 3: I'll take a flyer on him if he gets down 241 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 3: to like the sixth round, for the seventh round in drafts. 242 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 3: I think that that's great value there. And I think 243 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 3: it's just going to be more of the same for 244 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 3: James Connor until he actually does get hurt and then 245 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 3: it's probably over. 246 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, which hopefully we're not wishing for that whatsoever. Yes, 247 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: he's I've got I've also got a Yes, we're gonna 248 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: ring more and one more good year out of James 249 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: Connor from many of the same points that you mentioned. 250 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 1: He's coming off arguably the best season of his career 251 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: last year in a lot of metrics, including avoided tackle rate. 252 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 1: He was third best and avoided tackle rate last year, 253 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:45,319 Speaker 1: but number one if of of running backs at least 254 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty carries. You know, James Connor looked 255 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: good and I don't know, I absolutely passed the eye test, 256 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: the metric test. Now, Cardinals didn't change their offense at 257 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 1: all last year this past offseason, so they rolling with 258 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 1: the same offense like, no substantive changes whatsoever. But so 259 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: I just think it's gonna be more of the same, 260 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 1: which is just you know, consistent, good B level RB 261 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: two levels of production for James Connord. We'll take it absolutely, 262 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: all right. Last guy before the break, Miami wide receiver 263 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill is aged thirty one, Matt. He's got one 264 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: thousand career touches. That includes some runs because he's run 265 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: the ball a bit more than most wide receivers. Last year, 266 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: Hill's play fell off a cliff, a totally different guy. 267 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: And there's a lot of people that are like, oh, well, 268 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 1: TWA missed all that time, all right, yeah, two A 269 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: missed five full games. But in the twelve games with 270 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: Tua twelve, Hill was still not reliable at all. He 271 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: only had two top ten finishes in those twelve games. 272 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: He had five finishes at wide receiver thirty or worse. 273 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: Last year, Tyreek posted a career low PFF grade. He 274 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: had thirty eight fewer receptions than last year, eight hundred 275 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: and forty fewer yards than the previous year. And for 276 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 1: a guy who is known for explosive plays, his yards 277 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: after the catch dropped to three point six per game 278 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: up per catch. That's thirty fifth among starting wide outs. 279 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: That's it. I mean, he's supposed to be like, just 280 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: get the ball in his hands and magic happens with 281 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill. Nothing happened after he got the ball in 282 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: his hands. He got tackled. That's what happened. 283 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 3: No magic. 284 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 2: At all. 285 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 1: Yep. He played all seventeen games. He posted six year 286 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: lows in receptions, yards and explosive plays of twenty more yards. 287 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: I do not think we're gonna ring one more good 288 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: year out of Tyreek Hill. What do you think, Matt? 289 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're you're kind of dead on here. 290 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 3: And I'll just to add for Tyreek Hill to be 291 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 3: a success and to draft him where he's going ADP 292 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 3: in the third round. It feels like you need to 293 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 3: get twelve hundred dish yards and ten touchdowns out of 294 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 3: Tyreek Hill. That seems pretty fair. In an age thirty 295 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 3: one season, those benchmarks have only been hit nine times 296 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 3: by a wide receiver. 297 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: That's it nice. 298 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 3: Ever, in an age thirty one season, the most recent 299 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 3: was ten years ago. What and it was Jordy Nelson. 300 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: Wow, that's an awesome stat. So Jordy Nelson was the 301 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: last thirty one year old receiver to hit twelve hundred 302 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: yards and ten touchdowns. 303 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 3: Correct, That's amazing. So it just doesn't seem like it's 304 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 3: there anymore. It seems he almost had half of the 305 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 3: receiving yards that he had the previous year. And oh, 306 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 3: by the way, he played one one more game in 307 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 3: twenty twenty four than he did in twenty twenty three. 308 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 3: I just think that the end is much closer than 309 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 3: we anticipate, and for a speed guy like that, it 310 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 3: just doesn't seem like it's gonna work out for him. 311 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 3: I'd avoid Tyreek at all costs. 312 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:18,120 Speaker 1: All right, Well, at the cost is the third round. 313 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 1: That's too rich for my blood as well. We are 314 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: both a no on Tyreek Hill. When we come back, 315 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:28,360 Speaker 1: we'll start creeping into age thirty two seasons. Find out 316 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:32,120 Speaker 1: about this next and final batch of old men when 317 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: we come back. Fantasy Football Weekly, Segment two Fantasy Football Weekly, 318 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:45,640 Speaker 1: Paul Charchi and Matt Harrison with you. We're talking through 319 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 1: older players who have been very productive we hope will 320 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 1: continue to be productive. But can we ring out one 321 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 1: more good year from these guys? So far, Matt and 322 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 1: I have agreed on three of our four previous players. 323 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: We next turn our attention Matt to thirty two year 324 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 1: old or soon to be thirty two year old Los 325 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: Angeles Rams Wide receiver Davante Adams with oney twenty nine 326 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: career touches. What do you think about Davante Adams? Can 327 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 1: we ring out one more good year? 328 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 3: So I mean I could run back kind of the 329 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,919 Speaker 3: same stats about Tyreek and attach them to Adams. But 330 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 3: there's something else I want to mention. It's the new 331 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 3: team bump. Oh, especially the new team bump you sat 332 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 3: franchise like Joe Mixon did it last year. He had 333 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:35,400 Speaker 3: a nice little bump at the beginning of the year. 334 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 3: So did Davante Adams when he was traded to the Jets. 335 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 3: By the way, even Jerry Judy had a new bump 336 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:46,679 Speaker 3: last year. So new situations that teams that want you 337 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 3: often bring some confidence and success. And Adams walks into 338 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 3: a role vacated by Cooper Cup, and Cup averaged eight 339 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 3: targets per game in a season where he just looked 340 00:18:56,480 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 3: cooked and I couldn't get anything done anymore. Adams finished 341 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 3: his wide receiver twelve last year. He's a wide receiver 342 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 3: one in stats, and he's had success everywhere he's been, 343 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:13,400 Speaker 3: even with Gardner Minshew and other quarterbacks in Vegas. He's 344 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 3: been successful wherever he's been. Stafford is accurate and competent 345 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 3: enough for me to be interested. We're going to talk 346 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 3: more about Stafford a little bit later, but I'm in 347 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 3: on Devonte Adams. 348 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 1: How are you? You're in on Adams? I am also 349 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,360 Speaker 1: in on Adams. This is the best offense he's been 350 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 1: in since his Aaron Rodgers days, and I like, I've 351 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: got a lot of the same talking points I Last 352 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:40,199 Speaker 1: year he looked good and last season posted a sixty 353 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: percent catch rate, his highest level since his Green Bay 354 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 1: days when he was catching from Aaron Rodgers. I think 355 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: he gets a quarterback upgrade here. And he's not a 356 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: pure slot receiver like Cooper Cup, but he runs from 357 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 1: the slot enough that'll take some of those routes that 358 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 1: you had mentioned the eight targets per game the Cooper 359 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 1: Cup had when Cooper Cup was, as you may, and 360 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 1: way more cooked than Devonte Adams. So he and he 361 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 1: actually ran more slot routes last year Adams did than 362 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:12,120 Speaker 1: he did outside routes. So you know, I don't see 363 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: the drop off comings. I don't think it's gonna be 364 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: sudden here. I think Adams gets one more good season, 365 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: and with with Pukainakua drawing a lot of attention. It's 366 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of one on one for DeVante Adams, 367 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: and I think he's sitting on a nice season, so 368 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: we both believe he's going to ring out another good season. 369 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 1: Next up, age thirty five Kansas City tight end Travis 370 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: Kelsey twelve. 371 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 3: Harder acting like these guys are so old. 372 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 1: By the way, thirty five years old. 373 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:45,919 Speaker 3: I mean that's ten years younger than me. 374 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 1: Well we are not. Well, you could be a professional ballplayer, 375 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 1: don't get me wrong. I mean I think you absolutely 376 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:53,919 Speaker 1: have it inside you. 377 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, I probably do. 378 00:20:55,960 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 1: Kelsey had it sort of a gentle slide into not mediocrity, 379 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:06,239 Speaker 1: but he took a slide backwards last year. Although I'll 380 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: credit him for staying healthy again. I mean, one of 381 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: the most bankable qualities you get out of Travis Kelcey. 382 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: Dude stays healthy, he plays games. But just looking at 383 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: Travis Kelcey, you can see he's slowing down. And there's 384 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: some metrics to back that up. Per next Gen stats, 385 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:26,640 Speaker 1: his yards per catch plummeted down to three point seven 386 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: yards per catch. That's it, and that's awfully close the 387 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. It's hard to be a fantasy factor 388 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:35,880 Speaker 1: when you're catching the ball four yards downfield. That's down 389 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: from five and a half yards the year before that. 390 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 3: And thank you. 391 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: Kelsey's separation dropped from three point seven yards to three 392 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 1: point two yards, so defenders are getting closer to him, 393 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: which also suggests he's losing a little to speed, little 394 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: to wiggle. And he fell from fifth to thirteenth an 395 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: end zone target percentage, which explains why I only had 396 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 1: three touchdowns in the regular season last year. So and 397 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: here he is entering h thirty five. I mean, I 398 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: just don't I just don't see a tight end at 399 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:11,360 Speaker 1: age thirty five reversing those trends. Matt, So, I am 400 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 1: going to go no on Travis Kelcey will not ring 401 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 1: out another good season. What do you say? 402 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 4: Uh? 403 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 3: To be honest, I was really surprised that he decided 404 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 3: to come back this year. I thought that last year 405 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:25,880 Speaker 3: was going to be the end of it for him. 406 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 3: I think if the Chiefs would have won the Super Bowl, 407 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 3: I think he would have retired because he's just got 408 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,120 Speaker 3: too much other stuff going on in his life. 409 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 1: But life's busy, I. 410 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 3: Mean, besides being a football player, he's on a crazy 411 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 3: popular podcast, He's got products that he's pimping all over. 412 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 3: He's got a beer brand, like his girlfriend is the 413 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 3: most popular person on the planet, like, and his body's 414 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,199 Speaker 3: kind of starting to fail him a little bit, as 415 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 3: yardage total was the worst in his career. Despite catching 416 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 3: ninety seven passes, he only averaged eight point five yards 417 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 3: per catch, down from ten point six and twenty two, 418 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 3: twenty three and twenty twenty two and earlier in his career. 419 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 3: It was never below twelve in any other year in 420 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 3: his career. So he also only scored four total touchdowns 421 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 3: last year in nineteen games including the playoffs. 422 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a bummer. 423 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 3: You need more than four total touchdowns out of your 424 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 3: tight end. So I kind of wonder if he gets 425 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 3: to training camp and laces them up and maybe he 426 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 3: feels like you and I would if we lay them 427 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,919 Speaker 3: up the training camp on the second day and he 428 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 3: just goes, dang, I'm sore. Maybe I'm just gonna go 429 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 3: hang out with Taylor and do the podcast with my brother, 430 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 3: and like, if I were to draft him in a 431 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,679 Speaker 3: Scott Fish Bowl draft, he would retire, guarantee. 432 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: That's all it would take. That's all it would take. 433 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: I really like the guy, but I think it's over 434 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: Johnny keeping Taylor Swift sexually satisfied as a full time job. 435 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 1: I don't think he can do both. 436 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 3: I mean, you gotta do it right. 437 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you had a choice of spending 438 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:03,959 Speaker 1: a lot of time doing one or the other. I 439 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 1: think I think it's pretty clear what you end up 440 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,159 Speaker 1: doing at age thirty five when you've already won super Bowls. 441 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's pretty pretty straightforward. 442 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 3: Makes a lot of sense. 443 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,880 Speaker 1: Speaking of age thirty five, we have another wide receiver 444 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,880 Speaker 1: that we're going to try to ring out another good 445 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 1: year on, and that's Carolina wide receiver Adam Thelen with 446 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: seven a little over seven hundred career touches age thirty five. 447 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: As I mentioned, what are your thoughts on ringing out 448 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 1: one more good year from Thelen? 449 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 3: Well, Adam Thelen now connected to Jennifer Lopez as his 450 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 3: new girlfriend. 451 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,679 Speaker 1: No, not at all, and his wife would be very 452 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 1: surprised to learn that. 453 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 3: If he can stay on the field, I think that 454 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 3: Adam Theelen's craftiness can just keep him relevant. He didn't 455 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 3: get drafted in the NFL and he didn't become a 456 00:24:56,160 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 3: pro bowler because of He's like an insane physical specimen here. 457 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 3: He got there by being smarter and more technical than 458 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,919 Speaker 3: his counterparts. And when Bryce Young started getting good at 459 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,640 Speaker 3: the end of the year last year, Adam Thielen got 460 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 3: five or more catches in every game, six straight to 461 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 3: finish the year. Now, granted Ted McMillan's there, he's going 462 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 3: to be getting a lot of target share, but the 463 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 3: short and intermediate slot stuff is where THELAN butters his bread. 464 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 3: And speaking of short stuff, Bryce Young kind of has 465 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 3: to get rid of the ball a little quicker. So 466 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 3: I think that THELAN is still still relevant here, and 467 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 3: when he is healthy, I think he's going to be 468 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 3: like a wide receiver three flex play most weeks. So 469 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 3: I'm still in on Adam Thlen for one more year. 470 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: Same I'm in on THEA and out. It's part of 471 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 1: it's the eye test. We know we had that long 472 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: hamstring injury, which you have to factor this, and he's 473 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: had soft tissue injuries a lot Adam Thielen has. But 474 00:25:56,200 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 1: when he came back from Week thirteen forward last year, 475 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 1: he was Pro Football Focus is wide receiver eleven and 476 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 1: just in Fantasy points, he was wide receiver twenty in 477 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 1: PPR points that's you know, that offense was largely going 478 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:14,679 Speaker 1: through Adam Theelen last year, and of the ten best 479 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 1: catches I saw last season, THELAN made two of them, 480 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,679 Speaker 1: and just an astounding catch on the left sideline and 481 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 1: the back of the end zone catch that were just 482 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 1: magnificent and makes me feel like Thelan still got one 483 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 1: more good year left in him. Now he said this 484 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: is this is gonna be his last season. So THELAN 485 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: has acknowledged that this is this is gonna be the 486 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 1: the swan Song season. But I and I don't. As 487 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: you mentioned Teed McMillan, Now there Matt McMillan could could 488 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: end up being very good. But here's THELAN who knows 489 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 1: the Dave Canalis system. They know they can rely on him. 490 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,120 Speaker 1: He's gonna be in the right spot every play. He's 491 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 1: gonna catch every ball that comes his way. There's so 492 00:26:56,560 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: many advantages that THELAN has that I still think he's 493 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 1: going to be the go to receiver this season on 494 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 1: an offense that everybody thinks was you know it knows 495 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 1: that got way better over the course of last year 496 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 1: and could pick up right where it left off. 497 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 3: I think if Adam Feelen stays healthy, and the Panthers 498 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 3: are not in contention for a wild card spot. I 499 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,679 Speaker 3: think that they probably try to move him near the deadline, 500 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 3: and I think they would love to try to move 501 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 3: him back to Minnesota so he could finish be amazing. Yeah, 502 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 3: and I think it wouldn't take much to do it. 503 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 3: Probably a very late round pick. But if the Vikings 504 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 3: are in contention, that would be a perfect guy to 505 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 3: add to that roster as a third wide receiver. Again, 506 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 3: all stretch. 507 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: Feeling can play every position, he can run from everywhere, 508 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: but he's great out of the slot. And the Vikings 509 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 1: really and the Vikings receivers also need to be able 510 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 1: to play everywhere, but they don't have a kind of 511 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 1: a pure slot guy. Felan, could that I like your 512 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,679 Speaker 1: call mark the tape as they used to say in 513 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: the old days. Thursday, June nineteenth, as we're recording this Friday, 514 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 1: June twentieth, as it airs, we're not recording Fridays, as 515 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,159 Speaker 1: I mentioned, right into the scott Fish Bowl tomorrow. There 516 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,879 Speaker 1: you go. Yeah, Okay, are you bringing your swim trunks 517 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 1: by the way, I am, because we're draft to get 518 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 1: stadium swim so you know, for the people that go. 519 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 1: You get to see the majesty of my chest hair. 520 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean so, if you're anywhere near the Las 521 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 3: Vegas area, get to stadium swim tomorrow, that's right to 522 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,439 Speaker 3: see churches chest hair. I'm sure he's gonna shave something 523 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 3: really wonderful into it. 524 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a self portrait, self portrait, tasteful nude 525 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: shaved into I'm gonna do that with the back hair 526 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: actually shaved into the back hair. 527 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 3: You'll have to do that. 528 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 1: You can't do it myself. It's really hard to shave 529 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: an image into your own back. I don't even know. 530 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 1: I don't even know what it would take for you 531 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 1: to shave. Just if you want to raise shave all 532 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 1: the hair off your back, what would could you physically 533 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 1: do it? 534 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 3: You have to get a stick or something, you know. 535 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: I'm imagining getting getting an elect buzz style razor and 536 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: draping it on my back and then pulling it by 537 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: the cord over my shoulders so it drags line at 538 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 1: all I can go wrong. 539 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 3: I think you need a friend, phone a friend on 540 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 3: that one. 541 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:22,719 Speaker 1: You and I have known each other for twenty years. Yeah, 542 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 1: have we ever seen each other shirtless? 543 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 3: I plead the fifth. 544 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: Other than that time in Tijuana. Have we ever seen 545 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 1: each other shirtless? Donkey show no our final player? 546 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 3: I don't think we have. But I don't think neither 547 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 3: of us have a swimming pool, so wouldn't seem like we. 548 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 1: Would, No, I don't think. 549 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 4: So. 550 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 3: I'll have to have Scott Fish send me some photos. 551 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 1: I think. Uh, I think that's very possible that you'll. 552 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: You'll they do a great job of promotion. There'll be 553 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 1: a lot of promotion around Saturday's big draft, no doubt. Yeah, absolutely, yes, 554 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 1: you got one more guy to talk about it. We do, 555 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 1: and he's thirty seven years. 556 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 3: Old, are Yeah? 557 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,239 Speaker 1: Speaking of back here, I feel like I need to 558 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 1: really qualify the fact now. And I mean it shouldn't 559 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 1: matter to any of our listeners, but I really don't 560 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: have any back here, So I just feel like it now, 561 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 1: I don't need to say that. 562 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 3: Oh, I don't know why you felt like you. 563 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 1: Needed to say that, because who wants back here? Nobody's like, 564 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 1: nobody wants to have back here. Rams quarterback Matthew Stafford 565 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 1: aged thirty seven eight thousand pass attempts spanning sixteen seasons. 566 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: Matt do you believe you can ring out one more 567 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 1: good year out of Matthew Stafford. We already said we 568 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 1: like Devonte Adams, So. 569 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think QB just hits a little 570 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 3: bit differently with this age thing. So I cited that 571 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 3: thirty one year old wide receiver stat before. Yeah, there 572 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 3: has been sixteen different seasons that a quarterback has thrown 573 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 3: for over four thousand yards in his age thirty seven 574 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 3: season or older. 575 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 1: Wow. 576 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 3: Okay, seven of which are Tom Brien. 577 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, you have to be pretty good 578 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 1: to even be slinging the ball at thirty seven. 579 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, so thirteen of those quarterbacks through at least twenty 580 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 3: four touchdown passes. And by the way, some of the 581 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 3: guys on this list Peyton Manning, Philip Rivers twice, Drew Brees, Warren. 582 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 1: Moon for the Vikings, Oh yeah, there you go, Brett. 583 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 3: Harv twice, once in Green Bay and once for Minnesota, 584 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 3: and Aaron Rodgers. Now, Stafford hasn't hit four thousand yards 585 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 3: since twenty twenty one, and that was his first year 586 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 3: in LA and he only made it to the twenty 587 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 3: four touchdown pass mark once in the last three years. 588 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 3: But the accuracy in the zip still seems to be there. 589 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 3: And Sean McVay he's one of the best coaches in 590 00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 3: the league. And he's also a coach who will get 591 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 3: rid of an aging star if he thinks they no 592 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 3: longer possess the skills. Yeah, so he's ready to jettison 593 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 3: a guy at the drop of a hat. He let 594 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 3: go of Jared Goff to go get Matthew Stafford, and 595 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 3: God turned out to be a pretty good quarterback in 596 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 3: the league. So I think Matthew Stafford finishes kind of 597 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 3: middle of the pack as a starter. He's quarterback twenty 598 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 3: two in Fantasy pros ADP right now, and it seems 599 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 3: like he's kind of the bottom of a tier with 600 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 3: JJ McCarthy, Toua, Trevor Lawrence, Drake May They're all above 601 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 3: him in ADP. Stafford's a guy, I mean outside of JJ, 602 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 3: because I think JJ's gonna have a fantastic season. Stafford's 603 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 3: a guy that I'd probably take above those other guys though, 604 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,719 Speaker 3: And I think that you'd be okay, I mean, you're 605 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 3: gonna be able to wait for him and get him later. 606 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 3: But I think that I would like him better than 607 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence and TUA and Drake may So. 608 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 1: I think that's a yes. So you're on yes, we 609 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 1: can ring out one more good year out of Matthew. 610 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 3: Stafforks So, and he's by the way on year to 611 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 3: year contracts now in LA So I think that any 612 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 3: year could be as last year, and I think that 613 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 3: this might be it. But they definitely don't have a 614 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 3: plan in place to replace. 615 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 1: No, which is a little odd, right, It's not like 616 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 1: his age is sneaking up on the team. I'm a 617 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 1: little bit surprised that the Rams haven't done more to 618 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 1: put themselves in a position to have somebody that they 619 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 1: could be grooming to be the replacement for Matthew Stafford 620 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 1: because it's not Jimmy Garoppolo and it's not Stetson Bennett. 621 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 3: Well, they do have two first round draft picks in 622 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 3: next year's draft, which is supposed to be much better 623 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 3: quarterback draft. Well, I imagine they probably packaged two of 624 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 3: them to get up or if things don't go well, 625 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 3: they'll just take one. 626 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 1: I'm also on yes on Matthew Stafford. Last year he 627 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 1: finished his quarterback nineteen across the whole season, but as 628 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 1: everybody knows, he played the first forty percent of the 629 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 1: season without Cooper Cup and pokin Akua once those guys 630 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 1: came back. From Week eight forward, including the playoffs, Stafford 631 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 1: average two hundred and forty two passing yards, which was 632 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 1: good enough to be quarterback thirteen and one point eight 633 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,840 Speaker 1: touchdowns per game, which is good about enough to be 634 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,760 Speaker 1: quarterback six across a full season. One point eight touchdowns 635 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 1: in two hundred and forty two yards. Those are good 636 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 1: numbers that we're getting out of. You mentioned going off 637 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: the board best Ball Quarterback twenty two. I'm in on 638 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 1: Stafford at that level. I think he outperforms that spot, 639 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 1: and the talent upgrade from Cooper Cup to Devon Day 640 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,879 Speaker 1: Adams is going to be real for him. So I'm in. 641 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 1: I'm in on Stafford, particularly at his UH, at his 642 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 1: price point, and I think he's got another good season 643 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 1: left in him and let's just hope he plays most 644 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 1: are all the full season. Matt, absolutely, Yeah, this has 645 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 1: been fun, great job. 646 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you appreciate it. Only a couple of h here, 647 00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 3: we'll give ourselves out. 648 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 1: There, you go, Yeah, can we give ourselves one of these? 649 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:06,840 Speaker 3: I mean, you do deverve it? 650 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 1: I think so? I think so? So do you? Listeners? 651 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,320 Speaker 1: Getting to the end of the silly podcast. We always 652 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 1: appreciate you listening, and we'll be back next week for 653 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,760 Speaker 1: more Fantasy Football Weekly. Fantasy Football Weekly is a production 654 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 1: of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, 655 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,400 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.