1 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:09,120 Speaker 1: Welcome in another edition of OG podcast, or we get 2 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: a chance to talk to some of the OG's in 3 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: the NFL who came through the Houston Texan locker room. 4 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: Today's a very very special day. This man needs no introduction. 5 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: I don't need to go through his stats, his years, 6 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: everything that he accomplished. All I have to do is 7 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: say three words. Hall of Fame. The first Houston Texan 8 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer Andre Johnson sitting down with us OG Podcasts. 9 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 1: Welcome in, my brother, and congratulations. Appreciate you man. Appreciate 10 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 1: you first of all, appreciate you for I've been trying 11 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 1: to get you in the studio for ten years now, 12 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 1: so I'm glad I finally got you. 13 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 2: But does it ever get you know, we're. 14 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: Gonna be transparent, We're gonna have some fun here over 15 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: the next thirty forty minutes. Did you ever get annoyed 16 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 1: or like, oh, here we go again. Another congratulations on 17 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame, Because as soon as I heard 18 00:00:57,800 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: about it, and I just told y'all sitting in my 19 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: limit living room and I was screaming like it was 20 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: my blood brother when I found out. But I know 21 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: every time somebody sees you they want to hear the story, 22 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 1: they want to congratulate you. 23 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 2: Are you getting tired of it yet? Nah? 24 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 1: Actually, I don't think it's something you can really get 25 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: tired of. 26 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 2: Man. 27 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: For me, it's just it just like just the city 28 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 1: of Houston and what it means to everybody, you know, 29 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: like your teammates, coaches. You know, I got a chance 30 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: to see coach Kobiakt this weekend and it's like, you know, 31 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:37,839 Speaker 1: it's like they made it, you know what I'm saying, 32 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: Like it's so exciting for everybody. So I don't think 33 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: it's something you could get tired of because it's made 34 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: so many people so happy, you know. So I think 35 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: for me, I just enjoyed that. Like to I don't 36 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: want it to be just about me, you know what 37 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, man, you would the battle on the 38 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: field together, so I want you to feel a part 39 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: of that too. So I think that's what makes it special, 40 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: because everybody else feels a part of it, you know 41 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: what you just said. I think that's why so many 42 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 1: of your teammates, you know that you played with, even 43 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: guys that you weren't that close with, were so excited 44 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 1: because of how genuine you are, Like in my twelve years, 45 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: I played with like six Hall of famers, I was 46 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:19,959 Speaker 1: never more excited than when I heard your name. And 47 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: I'm if Brian Dawkins was sitting there, I would literally 48 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: say the same thing. It's because of what you just 49 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: said and how humble you were. I'll never forget my 50 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: first week here, and you won't remember this conversation. But 51 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 1: I remember after a week of practice, I pulled you 52 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: aside and I was like, man, you practiced like a 53 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: rookie trying to make the team, and I'll never forget 54 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: you said that's the only way I know. Like you 55 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: weren't even like, hell, thanks, man, it's because you were like, 56 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: that's it was almost like you were saying, that's a 57 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: stupid ass statement because that's the only way I know. 58 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 2: How to go. 59 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: But I don't know if you realize how that resonates 60 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: with your teammates, Like just kind of talk about that 61 00:02:55,760 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: thought process. It's so for me as a as a player, 62 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 1: I just always was like, because you know, you you're 63 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: coming into the NFL and you hit a story, so 64 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: it's always a story or they're gonna try to replace 65 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:17,399 Speaker 1: you every year. So I just had a mindset where 66 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: I was like, I ain't gonna give him no reason 67 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,679 Speaker 1: to replace me, you know like that, And that's that's 68 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: how I approached it. And it was never in a 69 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: selfish way though, like I always wanted to help and 70 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: bring other guys along with me. So that was just 71 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: always my approach. You know, I'm gonna go out here, 72 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna work my ass off, and whoever want to 73 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: follow on following who don't they not and you know 74 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: they they'll fall off on the wayside. So that was 75 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: just always my approach to it. When did you realize 76 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: because when you hear the leader, uh, you know, you 77 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: think of the raw, raw guys. And I'm not saying 78 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: a negative way, like Dimigo Ryans was a leader, but 79 00:03:57,800 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: it was obviously the way he carried himself and the 80 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: things he said. You were a quiet leader, like the 81 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: few times you said something was like shut up, mazing, 82 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: Like when you realize, like, man, my voice has power. 83 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: Like about what year in the league did you did 84 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 1: you realize that? Man, this is this is crazy. I 85 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: remember my rookie year. Jonathan Wells probably could tell you 86 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: about this story. Dumb Capers was out head coach when 87 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 1: I first got here and I remember like, man, like 88 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 1: you know, dumb old school, like you grinding every day 89 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: and dudes was like really like beat down, like you know, 90 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 1: just tired, you know. And it was like Dre, man, 91 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 1: you're the only person here listen. 92 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 2: To as a rookie. As a rookie. 93 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: So I'm like what they was like, I'm talking about 94 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 1: they they It was like it was so funny, Broke. 95 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: We were sitting in the team lounge and I got 96 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: all these veteran dudes around me telling me what I 97 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: needed to say, the dumb capers. So I go up there, 98 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: I say what I say to him, and you know, 99 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 1: they gave me, told me everything what to say. It 100 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:08,919 Speaker 1: was all playing out and you know he actually he 101 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: actually listened. And but I think in that moment it 102 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: was just like even though I was a rookie. And 103 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: another story, we was playing against Buffalo. I think it 104 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 1: was my second either my second or third. 105 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 2: Year in the league. 106 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: Jay Well, same dude he came up to He was like, man, 107 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: you need to speak to the teams before the game, 108 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: and like that was my first time ever doing that, 109 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: like in my life, like in all my years of 110 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 1: playing football, our school, college, first time ever like I 111 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: actually spoke in front of the genes and the way 112 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 1: like could do. Dudes was listening to what I'm saying, 113 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: like it's just kind of like damn like like they 114 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's a sense of respect, you know. 115 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 1: So I'd probably say that's probably the first time I 116 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: really really like realized because it was the first time 117 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 1: I ever did it. So with the success you had 118 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 1: in high school, college, you know, early on in the NFL, 119 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: did you think they wouldn't listen or you just didn't 120 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: think about it. You were so focused on just the grind. 121 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 1: I was just more just a grinder, Like I didn't 122 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: really I always felt like that was for everybody else, 123 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 1: like to be talking, and I just never really that 124 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: just wasn't me. I wasn't my who I was. Eventually 125 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: I had to grow into that, you know, but early 126 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: in my career. Now, I just even in high school 127 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: growing up, I just never was that guy. Like I 128 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: never felt like I needed to talk to the team 129 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: or but I used to always have coaches tell me, 130 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: like you're the leader, you know, But I just wasn't 131 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 1: a raw rock guy. Did you feel like the way 132 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: you work, like your work ethic. Could you you tell 133 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 1: people were trying to get in Like for me when 134 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: we when we became teammates, it was like year nine 135 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 1: or ten. For me, I had two knee braces. My 136 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: knees were hurt. But when I saw you working, I 137 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: was like, you know what, I need to step it up. 138 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: Like I actually thought that I need to step it up, 139 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: Like could you sinse? Like even though I'm not a 140 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: vocal guy, guys are kind of getting in line of 141 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 1: Well I just for me, man, Like I had some 142 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: great guys like in college, like Santana Moss and Reggie Wayne, 143 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: you know guys I played behind. I always tell people 144 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: those are like my big brothers. Like that's where I 145 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: learned that from. Like if you saw these guys like work, 146 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: Like I remember my receiver coach Curtis Johnson, he was 147 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: you know, I was a freshman, and you know back 148 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: then we had freshmen practice before the you know, the 149 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: veteran guys would come in and he was like, don't 150 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: worry way to these other guys, wait to Santanna RESI 151 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: don't get here. Y'all gonna really see what it is. 152 00:07:56,400 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: Cause like our first day, me and Kevin Beard, the 153 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: other guy named Anthony Johnson, like, man, we he used 154 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: to make us do cone drills before, like that was 155 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: our first name. We would do like right out of 156 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: warm ups and we would be like dead, like and 157 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: I didn't really realize like how greatest shape you had 158 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: to get in like all that. That was a real 159 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: like learning experience for me. So but just being around 160 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: those guys and Reggie like they gave me like the 161 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: blueprint of what it was as far as like just 162 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: working and grinding and really working on your craft, you 163 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: know as a wide receiver. So you know, that's interesting 164 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: because everyone always talks about the culture, the culture, but 165 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: it sounds like y'all really had the culture of when 166 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: you get to the U and for those under a 167 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: rock who don't know he went to Miami, once you 168 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: get there, you know you're gonna have to put in 169 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: the work. Michael Irvin way before your time, they even 170 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 1: had that same mentality. So do you even know where 171 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: it started from as far as that culture, Well, I 172 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 1: mean it had to start from the guys that was 173 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 1: you know, Yeah, I think Mike, like Mike, Lonzo hot Smith, 174 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: Jerome Brown, god Reschi saw all those guys like they 175 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: laid the foundation, you know, and it was a standard 176 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:21,959 Speaker 1: that was set, Like you knew when you went to 177 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: the University LAM it was a certain standard. You had 178 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: to carry yourself a certain way. But at the same time, 179 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: it was just like when you come out that tunnel 180 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: on Saturday. It was you would see so many guys 181 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: like former players, Like the support was crazy, so and 182 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 1: you ain't want to let them dudes down because for me, 183 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: I grew up watching it, you know, so I knew 184 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 1: what it was about, and I as a kid, I 185 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: used to always be like, man, I want to be 186 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: a part of that, Like it's something special about you know, 187 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: them dudes that were that you on their helmets. So 188 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 1: I always wanted to to be a part of it. 189 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: And you know when you got that man like, man, 190 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 1: I don't seen dudes get called out. 191 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:08,439 Speaker 2: Man. 192 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: We used to have we used to have a some 193 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: couches set up in the locker room. We used to 194 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: call it the ring. And you want to do it 195 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:20,079 Speaker 1: what you was supposed to do. You had to get 196 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: in that ring like it was. It was. It was 197 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: like that and what oh yeah, no, you're gonna wrestle, okay, 198 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: like with somebody who calls you out. Yeah, okay, yeah, 199 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 1: like it's going down, like someone's real about that. If 200 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: you call someone out, you better handle your business. It 201 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: was definitely. But if somebody called you out, trust me, 202 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 1: you're gonna be in for a fight. Like it was. 203 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: It was, It was. It was just different. 204 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:43,959 Speaker 2: Man. 205 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: I tell people all the time because they always be like, man, 206 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: how was it that? How was it at Miami? I'm like, man, like, 207 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 1: I don't think words can really describe it. You had 208 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: to be there to see it, but it was a standard. 209 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: Like man, you might have had some guys that didn't 210 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: get aloan, but we got on that football off heeld. 211 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: We knew it was about one thing and one thing only, 212 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: you know, So that's what made it special. Man, it 213 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: was it was. I tell people all the time talking 214 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:13,199 Speaker 1: the best days of my life. I'm getting goose because 215 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: I could I could feel it. But I didn't experience 216 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: that in my college, which is kind of hard to 217 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: believe considering I went to rights. You probably thought we 218 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: had that same you know, don't laugh too hard, but 219 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:25,199 Speaker 1: you know that I'm getting goosebumps listening, and you kind 220 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 1: of answered what my next question was gonna be. I 221 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 1: was gonna ask you, But it sounds like from day 222 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: one you knew that was the school you wanted to 223 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: go to. When did you know that that was gonna 224 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 1: be a reality? Like what year in high school? So 225 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 1: I probably say my it probably didn't really hit me 226 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 1: until my senior year. I think for me, I was 227 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: just kind of enjoying high school, you know, while I 228 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 1: was there. And I remember my my high school coach. 229 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: One day he put me to the site like, hey, man, 230 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: like you don't talk about college, Like you don't talk 231 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 1: about nothing. 232 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 2: Like he was like, what you playing on doing? You know? 233 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: Like I was just focused on I was just having 234 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,079 Speaker 1: fun playing football man, like you know, I'm a kid 235 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 1: like so, but my senior I remember my senior he 236 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: put me to the side. 237 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 2: He was just like, you know what schools you like? 238 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: You know, so he was like, if you had to 239 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: give me five schools, give me five schools. So that's 240 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 1: kind of like where it started, Like when I really 241 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: started taking a I always wanted to go to college, 242 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: but I just didn't, you know, I ain't really know 243 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 1: the whole process of getting cleared by the Clarehouse and 244 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: after you know, to do certain stuff before you're able 245 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: to go. But so that's when it kind of like 246 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 1: really took off. It Like once he told me about it, 247 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: that's when I really just like after that, it was 248 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: just like, Okay, I need to do this. I need 249 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: to make sure I got certain GPA, got to take 250 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,439 Speaker 1: my SA T, A C T, all that stuff. So 251 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: it was I probably say that some of my going 252 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,439 Speaker 1: into my senior was when it really like just kind 253 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:07,719 Speaker 1: of hit me. So he asked for five, I'm only 254 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 1: going to ask for two outside of the U. What 255 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 1: was your second choice? I tell people this, they don't 256 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 1: believe it. I almost went to USC to be honest. 257 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 2: That's a long way from home. Yeah, did you take 258 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 2: a visit? Yeah? Is that? What did it? Yeah? 259 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 1: Okay, we'll leave that one or that's for the after hours. 260 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:34,199 Speaker 1: O Jeron was recruiting. Oh wow, yeah, now Keishawn Johnson 261 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: has already gone, right, Yeah, he's gone. He's what he's definitely, yeah, 262 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 1: he's he's with the Jets. At the time, Paul Hackett 263 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: was the coach, Hugh Jackson was the offensive coordinator. O 264 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 1: Jeron was the d Lion coach. Cossa Pomer Yeah was 265 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 1: the quarterback. Okay, so I could definitely see why that 266 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: would have been exciting. I like what you said because 267 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 1: you know, you've met my sons there of the age, 268 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: and I think a lot of their friends don't appreciate 269 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: just having fun in high school because now it's what 270 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 1: are you rated? 271 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 2: Who's looking at you as a sophomore? 272 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:11,199 Speaker 1: And I always feel like a lot of these kids 273 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: aren't enjoying just the process and playing at high school ball. 274 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: So now I'm going to ask you a tough one. 275 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you a tough one. You you obviously 276 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: played in Florida. You're a Miami guy. You've been here, 277 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: and I know you love the sport of football. You 278 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: go to some of the high school games. I don't 279 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: know if you know where I'm going Texas high school football, 280 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: high school football or Florida. Hey, you know I'm biased. 281 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: I'm taking Florida all day. Speed. It's because of the 282 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: speed or just now, I wouldn't say speed, I think. 283 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: And this is just my personal paid upon and what 284 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: I see from just being here. So I've been here 285 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: twenty twenty years now. If you go see a little 286 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: league football game in Miami, and you go watch a 287 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: litle league football game in Texas. It's different. It's totally different. 288 00:14:56,440 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: How lit League football in Miami is different. Like when 289 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 1: I say different, like you might go to the park, 290 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: it might be ten thousand people out there for a. 291 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 2: Little league game. Yeah, huh okay, that's all you have 292 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 2: just said. 293 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: No, But it's like it's different, bro, Like little league 294 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: football in Miami is crazy. I'm talking about people coming 295 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: out there seven in the morning with they barbecue grills. 296 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: You want to see the pretty ladies for pee wee football, 297 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: little to go to the park? Wow football season. Look, 298 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: I've never seen You've seen both, so I guess I 299 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: can't argue with that. I will say this the guys 300 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 1: that I and you don't like to put these umbrella 301 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: statements because there's outliers. But growing up in Texas, I'm 302 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: a little biased. But I will say this. When I 303 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 1: played with somebody, I could tell before I asked, Oh, 304 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: he probably from Florida, you know, just by the way 305 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: they care in a positive way, the way they carry 306 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: themselves on the field, the grind. 307 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 2: And if I'm wrong and. 308 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: They're not from Florida, they're typically from Mississippior, Alabama. There's 309 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: just something about where the Texas high school players. I 310 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: think they call them stars before they're stars, where y'all 311 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: are very talented, but y'all still have that grind. But 312 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: I tell you the difference too, is like it's the 313 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: the facilities and things you guys have here. We don't 314 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: have that, gotcha, so to me. And it's no disrespect 315 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: to anybody that's played in Texas, uh within our high 316 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: school here. Like like like you said, I go to games. 317 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: I think Houston has a lot of talent Texas period, 318 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: just in football. But I think there may be a 319 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: little spoil a little more spoiled than we are because 320 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: like I go to these stadiums and I'm like, damn, yeah, 321 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: in Miami, you ain't playing in that like you playing 322 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: they might have to fit covered up with some dirt, 323 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: like you know, Like it's just it's just different. 324 00:16:57,760 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 2: Now. 325 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: You know, they're starting to put a lot of the 326 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: field turf down now and a lot of the stadium 327 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:07,199 Speaker 1: like the stadium I played and they finally put you know, 328 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: field turf and stuff in and now there we're doing 329 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:11,679 Speaker 1: a lot of the parks and stuff down there. But 330 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: like when I got here and I saw some of 331 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: the high school facilities, I'm like, if you just saw 332 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 1: my high school weight room, bro, like trash terrible. But 333 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: when I came here, I saw some of the stuff, 334 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:27,199 Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, this this is high school. 335 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 2: Like we don't we don't have that back on. Do 336 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 2: you think that gives y'all more of an appreciation when 337 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 2: you do have? 338 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: Oh, definitely, the facilities definitely like you because when you 339 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: see it, when you see it, it's almost like even 340 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 1: when I when I first got here, bro, I'll never 341 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 1: forget I went to north Shore. I want to watch 342 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: north Shore play. That was the first time I ever 343 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 1: seen the jumbo trun in the high school stadium, and 344 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,679 Speaker 1: Earl Mitchell was played on that team. Like I was 345 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: like when I walked understand, I'm like, this is a 346 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: high school. Like I'm like, we don't have this back home, 347 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: like you know. So, if if I had to say 348 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 1: the difference with that between the Miami and the Florida 349 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: and the Texas thing, that's probably what I would kind 350 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: of compare to. Within Florida are the rivalries Like here 351 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:23,880 Speaker 1: you have Houston versus Dallas Austin area, they have something. 352 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, So. 353 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:34,199 Speaker 1: In Miami, man, like Northwestern Central, those are like booger 354 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 1: T like those are like the heartsm like Columbuses has 355 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: has really came up from when I was playing. But 356 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: Northwestern booger T, Caarras City Central like those teams have 357 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 1: always been pretty consistent. Saint Thomas they have a man, 358 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: I think you you could go look at Saint Thomas history. 359 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:02,719 Speaker 1: That's what Michael Irvan went to school at. But like 360 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: the Bosa Brothers, like Florida, they went the same thumbs. Yeah, 361 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 1: so like but that's up and brower. But they they 362 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 1: they got to Saint Thomas got some players that I 363 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 1: came up out of that. Yeah, yeah, all right, So 364 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: that's what helped molds you to become the Hall of 365 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: Fame player. Uh, you know that you are today. You'll 366 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: always be a part of the Hall of Fame. When 367 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 1: how did you truly find out? What was it what 368 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: we saw on TV the knock on the door or 369 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 1: was that more just for the cameras? Like did you 370 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: know that was actually I actually didn't know, So before 371 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 1: the knock, you didn't know you were about to be 372 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 1: brou I had no clue really, So somebody said that 373 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 1: up good? Yeah, so Canard agent he set it up. 374 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: So I was I tell people this story day laugh. 375 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: So he told me. He called me one day he 376 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 1: was like, hey, man, I need to come by the house. 377 00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:59,439 Speaker 1: Uh me and my wife were gonna come by the 378 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: house on Thursday, and I need you to he said, 379 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 1: I'm changing my wheel. And he was like, his dad 380 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: is you know, going through cancer. He said, it's sister 381 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 1: add cancer. So it made sense, you know, like when 382 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:21,959 Speaker 1: he was telling me. So he was like, man, I 383 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: just want to you know, if something ever happened to me, 384 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 1: I just want to make sure my son is okay, 385 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: and I want you to be the person to be 386 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:32,159 Speaker 1: responsible for him. So he was like, I'm gonna have 387 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: my lawyer come over, you know, I sign some papers. 388 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 1: And he was like, but we got to have two witnesses. 389 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:39,640 Speaker 2: He said. 390 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: I'm like okay. He was like, so your mom and 391 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: your brother gonna be the witnesses. So I was like, 392 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 1: all right, cool, So bro, I ain't thinking nothing. Yeah, 393 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: I'm like all right whatever, Like we get this over with. 394 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 1: I gone about my day, you know. So we're at 395 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: the house and my mom brother comes, so is he 396 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 1: already there? He gets that first him and his wife 397 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: and then my mom and my uh my mom gets 398 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: that next day. My brother gets there like two minutes after, 399 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:19,360 Speaker 1: and they know they don't know. Oh yeah, they don't 400 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: know either. He the only one who know. That's why 401 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:25,679 Speaker 1: my mom screamed when when I opened the door. She 402 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:30,919 Speaker 1: had no clue. So we we at the house and 403 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:35,400 Speaker 1: he gives this whole speech about hey, you know, obviously 404 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: we know why we hear what's going on, and you know, 405 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 1: I'm changing my whib blah blah blah. You know, I 406 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: just want Andre to be responsible for a little canard. 407 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: It was a whole speech like I'm like all right, 408 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 1: Like you know, I'm like a let get this over that. 409 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 1: Let's sign in these papers so he can busts out 410 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: and say what the lawyer the lawyer's playing. His flight 411 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 1: was delayed, so he was like, he'll be about thirty 412 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: minutes late. 413 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 2: So I was like, all right. 414 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: My brother, him and his girlfriend just had a baby boy, 415 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: so he he had his son with him. So my nephew. 416 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,199 Speaker 1: I grabbed my nephew, I go outside and I'm just 417 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: walking around in the backyard, walking around the pool. So 418 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: my brother came outside. He was like, hey, Kana, I say, 419 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: come in the house. So I'm thinking, like Okay, the 420 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: lawyer here, like we're finished sign these papers and we're 421 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 1: going by our business. So I go in, I give 422 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 1: my brother his son back, and I'm kind of like 423 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: standing in the kitchen and because I think I had 424 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: went to get like a bottle of water. So and 425 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: then I heard his knock at the door. So ConA 426 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:53,239 Speaker 1: was like, hey, man, grab that. So I was like 427 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 1: all right, Like bro, I'm in my head, I'm like 428 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,439 Speaker 1: why you can't grab it, Like it's your lawyer like 429 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: to grab it. So but I ain't think. I'm just 430 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 1: like yeah, all right. So the way my house is 431 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: like I had to kind of like walk around because 432 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: I can't see the front door from where I'm standing 433 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:17,479 Speaker 1: at So when I walked out, I seen like you 434 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 1: can't see who's out. You can make out what's outside, 435 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: but you can't tell who it is. Okay, so I 436 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: could tell that somebody's standing there, but I can't see, 437 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: like you still don't know. No, That's when I knew. 438 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: When I when they knocked on the door and I 439 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: walked around and I saw it, I was like, I 440 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 1: know this is not about to happen. Like I was like, 441 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 1: I know this is not about to happen right now 442 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: because I can see a guy, I can see a camera, 443 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,880 Speaker 1: and I can see a guy in a gold jacket. 444 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:53,719 Speaker 1: So like, I'm just like, bro, I'm literally walking to 445 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 1: the door and I'm nervous as hell, Like wow, I'm like, man, like, 446 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 1: I know this is not about it happened. So when 447 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 1: I opened the door and I saw Chris, I was 448 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,199 Speaker 1: just kind of like, that's why, like you saw Like 449 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: I just turned around to put my hand around my 450 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: mouth and I was just like damn, like I did, 451 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:13,640 Speaker 1: like I made it. 452 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 2: That's awesome. 453 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, shout out to Canor because that's an elaborate plan 454 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 1: right there. And the crazy thing me Kyl already knew, 455 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 1: but he didn't tell Hannah. But the funny thing was me, 456 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: Kyle and Hannah and Travis. We was at the Rockets 457 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: game the night before it happened. So it's funny because 458 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,719 Speaker 1: Cayle asked me, he said, you think you're gonna get 459 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: in this year? But he already knew the answer, so 460 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: I told him, I said, yeah, I say, I think. 461 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,199 Speaker 1: I said if it's any year that I felt the 462 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 1: most confident about it, it was this year. And he 463 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: was like okay. So when I called inform him I 464 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 1: made it. He was like, oh I already knew. Wow 465 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,719 Speaker 1: it's a great store. Yeah. So it was. It was 466 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: it was a good it was a good time, good moment. 467 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 1: My daughter she didn't have a clue, like because she's 468 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,360 Speaker 1: like why, she was like why all these cameras here? 469 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 1: Like what's going on? Like now fifteen wow? Fast wow. 470 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,880 Speaker 1: So so you probably can't even explain the emotion. I mean, 471 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 1: so you knew before you open the door because you 472 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 1: saw a camera, because so that's when I that's when 473 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: I knew. Like I was like damn, like because I 474 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 1: started thinking about everything he was telling me in the 475 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:36,439 Speaker 1: whole story. 476 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 2: So I'm like. 477 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 1: Going walking to the door, probably like one of the 478 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 1: most nervous, like I I it was almost like you 479 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 1: didn't I don't want to say I didn't want to 480 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 1: open it, but it was just like it was it 481 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 1: was a nerve like it was a I don't even 482 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: I don't even know if you can explain the feeling 483 00:25:59,200 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: it was. 484 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:00,880 Speaker 2: It was just different. 485 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 1: So you open the door, which we all saw Chris 486 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:08,919 Speaker 1: Carter's there after the cameras are off. What's going I mean, 487 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,439 Speaker 1: are you just still processing it? Like when the cameras 488 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,120 Speaker 1: are turned off. What's going on in the Johnson household? Man, 489 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie in d I I had to 490 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 1: take a moment. Like I was sitting on the couch, bro, 491 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: just like just trying to like gather your thoughts, like 492 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: like what just happened? 493 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 2: Right like? 494 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,159 Speaker 1: And like I'm sitting there, I got my hands and 495 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 1: I'm just like nobody's around me because they were just like, 496 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:44,400 Speaker 1: you know, letting need to Yeah. So it was just, bro, 497 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 1: You're just sitting there trying to take it all in. 498 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:53,199 Speaker 1: And afterwards, you know, we sat around for a while. 499 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 1: Even Candas was at my house. Candics was like crying. 500 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: She was like, these people really just came and knocked 501 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 1: on your door. She came after No, she was there, 502 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:06,439 Speaker 1: Oh during Yeah, okay, got so she for those that 503 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 1: don't know, Kansas Maybury does an awesome job. She runs 504 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: the textan Ambassador. It's called Texting Legends program, and she 505 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 1: obviously the biggest and best legends. She's very close with himself. 506 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: So for those listening, yeah, she couldn't even she was 507 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 1: like she was just she couldn't stop. She was just 508 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,439 Speaker 1: like they really came and knocked on your door, like 509 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 1: because we would joke all the time, like She'll be like, 510 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,439 Speaker 1: we're going to Vegas for Hall of Fame, just you know, 511 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 1: like joking around. Yeah, but you know, you don't you 512 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,679 Speaker 1: don't know when it's gonna happen. So we would just 513 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: be like, yeah, all right, whatever, like I just kind 514 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: of brush off and. 515 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, like it was. 516 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: It was like even I told you, like with my mom, 517 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 1: like when I open that door, she saw Chris, she 518 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 1: just started screaming. 519 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:55,239 Speaker 2: So that's all. 520 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, man, it couldn't happened to a better, better person, 521 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: now you knew. That's how they surprise people, and we 522 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 1: all know. And I guess it's different because it's actually you, 523 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 1: but all your teammates you like, he's going in. It's 524 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 1: just a matter of this year, next year, but he's 525 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 1: going in. I felt like it should be at the 526 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 1: first ballot, like anytime somebody came to your house where 527 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 1: you like, oh man, it's the damn Amazon guy, Like nah, 528 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 1: you know, I never and I tell people this all 529 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: the time, like when I made the finalist list. The 530 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 1: first time, I said to myself, I was like, like, 531 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make it. It's just a matter of time. 532 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: But I never I never really worried about it though, 533 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,959 Speaker 1: really like I never, like like even when I was 534 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: sitting there, like I'm not thinking in my mind like 535 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: are they gonna come knock on my doing it? Really 536 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 1: a couple of days like I'm not because I'm just 537 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: like when it's happened, when it's gonna happen, it's meant 538 00:28:59,280 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: to happen. 539 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 2: So I'm not. 540 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 1: And I think a lot of guys, like I know, 541 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: some guys that's been up for the finals list, like 542 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 1: Devin Hester, he used to get pissed when he didn't 543 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 1: make it. Like I remember Devin called me what time 544 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: and he was like, Yo, they call you yet I'm like, yeah, Brian, 545 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: make it, Like but I'm not tripping, like I don't. 546 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 2: They don't. 547 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 1: They don't bother me like that because like I tell people, 548 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 1: like I can't catch another pass, I can't score another touchdown. 549 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: What I've done, I've done. So when it's due to happened, 550 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 1: it happened. But you know some guys are more passionate 551 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 1: about it, you know. So Devon was like, it's so funny. 552 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 1: We were actually Joe, we were actually in Can not 553 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: too long, maybe about a month ago for our orientation 554 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 1: and like. 555 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 2: Joe Porter, he was like. 556 00:29:55,840 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: Man, I ain't want to call Devin Hester, you know, yeah, 557 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 1: like that we used to get upset, man, But I 558 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 1: never I never took it like that, like they'll call me. 559 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: I remember the first two times they would call me 560 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: inform me I didn't make it, and I would just 561 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 1: be like, man, thank you, like you know, it's just 562 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 1: honor to even be mentioned to be a finalist for 563 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,959 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame, like and it was. It was 564 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 1: funny because they'll be like, well, Andre, we wish everybody 565 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 1: else would accept it, do you know? But yeah, like 566 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 1: that's just that's just how it was, Like you know 567 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 1: you that's that's football royalty, you know what I'm saying. 568 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 1: So like to be in that, like I mean, you 569 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 1: no more nothing else you can ask, right, you know 570 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I was I was always like 571 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 1: I just respect it, man like. So that's that was 572 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,719 Speaker 1: just always my approach to it. I still to this day. 573 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously it's you, so you were had the process, 574 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 1: but I think we were more excited than and you. 575 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: I don't know, are you part of the textan ambassador 576 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: group chat? Yeah, I don't know if you saw all 577 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 1: the messages going back and forth, but you know, and 578 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 1: I think what you just said is probably what makes 579 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 1: you special on why people appreciate it for you the 580 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 1: way they do. Like I've I've liked and loved most 581 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 1: of my teammates. I can't even think of any that 582 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 1: I don't like. And when I heard certain guys made 583 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 1: to Hall of Fame, it's kind of like, oh man, 584 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 1: that's cool. Yeah, that's cool. And again, I don't want 585 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 1: to get too corny because you're sitting here, but when 586 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 1: when we found out you got in, like it was 587 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,719 Speaker 1: kind of like, hey, kids, step away, you know, daddy's 588 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 1: allergies acting up, just because. 589 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 2: Of the type of person you are. 590 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 1: So and even early in this podcast you mentioned like 591 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 1: you've appreciated it because it's like we all got in, 592 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 1: Coach Kubiak, all the guys that you play with, So 593 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 1: that's what made it special for us. So you've processed it. 594 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 1: I'm surprised Travis Johnson didn't mess up this surprise. Was 595 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: he there? I was just about to bring him up 596 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 1: and that you don't understand. So mind you, I found 597 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: out a week a week and a half before Super Bowl. Okay, yeah, yeah, 598 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 1: So I got my knock maybe like a week and 599 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 1: a half before Super Bowl, but you can't tell nobody. 600 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 2: Oh for how long? 601 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,959 Speaker 1: For that weekend half? I didn't realize, So it doesn't 602 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 1: get unveiled until the NFL, honest got you. So I 603 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 1: couldn't tell my family. The only people that knew who 604 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 1: was knew who was at my house. So you couldn't 605 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 1: you had this high nda, you couldn't disclose it to anybody. 606 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 2: So we're in Vegas, Travis Johnson, so rap J. 607 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 1: We were together, so he that was that was that Thursday, 608 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 1: it was announced for the show. We were together earlier 609 00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 1: that day in Vegas. In Vegas and Travis, Yeah, so 610 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 1: are y'all I just want to set the stage. Are 611 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 1: y'all just there just to hang out or no, I'm 612 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 1: in Vegas because I got to be there to get 613 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 1: to walk on the stage. Was already he was just 614 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 1: going to Vegas just for Super Bowl. So you know, 615 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 1: I'm sure he had his appearances is going out there. 616 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 2: But so. 617 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 1: Me, Travis, my mom, my daughter, and my brother, we 618 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 1: were all like sitting in the food court. Mike uh 619 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 1: Parsons used to be the equipment guy. So we all 620 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,239 Speaker 1: kind of was just you know, just catching up, you know, 621 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 1: because I had seen Mike in a while. So really 622 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: we're just catching up with Mike and you know, just 623 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: talking whateverever. And so he said, Travis bus to say, 624 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 1: damn dog is getting about that time. 625 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 2: You ain't get no phone call yet. 626 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 1: So I said, I say, Travis, I got to go 627 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 1: up to the room when I say, they gonna come 628 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 1: knock on the door. But I'm lying. I already know 629 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 1: what's going on. Like but I'm lying because I'm like, on, 630 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 1: y'all gotta go. Y'all need to go get dressed, because 631 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 1: you know they they so they take the family over first, 632 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 1: so like I can't, like I can't take no picture 633 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: with my mama in the red carpet, none of that. 634 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: Like yeah, so like when you go, they take you 635 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 1: in the back, like you go later the show has 636 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 1: already started. 637 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:29,280 Speaker 2: They take you back through this. 638 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 1: Little way, put you in this room, and you sit 639 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 1: there and just watch the show on the TV until 640 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 1: you actually go out to Vietnaunce Hall of Fame. 641 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:43,439 Speaker 2: So Travis is like, I'm in the run. 642 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,240 Speaker 1: So we leave from downstairs in the little food court area, 643 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 1: because you know, I had to get my mom and 644 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 1: my daughter and I'm gonna get to the area where 645 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 1: they needed to get to go to the show with 646 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 1: my brother, and Travis is blowing my phone. 647 00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 2: Up like, dog, you ain't heard nothing. Yeah. 648 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, Travis, were sitting in the room, bro, like 649 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 1: we just waiting to seeboy cursing him out too. Yeah, Like, 650 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:09,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, we just waiting to see what's happening. He like, 651 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 1: where your mom and everybody at. I'm like, we all 652 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,279 Speaker 1: sitting in the room. But I'm lying my mama is 653 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 1: I'm in the room by myself. 654 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 2: I'm not. 655 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 1: So he starts calling me again, you ain't heard nothing yet. 656 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, So it got to the point where I 657 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 1: just stopped answering his call because I'm just like, he's 658 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 1: like trap doing too much. But he was so excited, 659 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,319 Speaker 1: like he just wanted to know. He like, I need 660 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,840 Speaker 1: to know. I need to know, man. So when I 661 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:45,399 Speaker 1: stopped answering this cause he started calling my brother, so 662 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 1: like my brother was sending me the text messages and stuff. 663 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 1: He like, bro, what's the road with Travis? Man, I'm like, man, 664 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 1: he just wanted to know. I say, you know, how 665 00:35:54,280 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 1: trap is. He just excited, so he found out. Of 666 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 1: course I didn't talk to him, like I just literally. 667 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,759 Speaker 2: Like, how hard was that? Just for you? Was hard? 668 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,839 Speaker 1: It was hard because you know how close me. So 669 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:13,360 Speaker 1: like it's like I want to tell you, but I can't, 670 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 1: you know. So he wasn't gonna keep no secret. For 671 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:17,879 Speaker 1: those who don't know, Travis is one of the most 672 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,840 Speaker 1: loyal dudes. He's a huge friend of Andre. There's no 673 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 1: way he would have kept that he was if I 674 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 1: would have told him, he would have went crazy. Yeah, 675 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 1: you know, he'd probably been yelling and all that stuff. 676 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 1: So so we go go to the show, do everything 677 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 1: I see. Uh the Miko, that was a great moment too, 678 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 1: man Like after I came off the stage and we 679 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 1: were walking out, man, Miko saw me. Man, he just 680 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 1: like bro We hugged and just laughed, you know, like 681 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 1: it was. It was a really really good moment afterwards. 682 00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 1: And but Travis, he found out. We went to dinner 683 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 1: that night after it's public. Now, so me, Hannah, you 684 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:12,880 Speaker 1: know a couple of people here with the organization, We 685 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 1: all went to dinner. My mom, agent, Stefph Travism there 686 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:20,879 Speaker 1: and uh he uh he you could tell it really 687 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,239 Speaker 1: hit him. Man Like, he got emotional. You know, he 688 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 1: did get old me though. He was like your ass 689 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 1: already knew you want to tell me, but I just 690 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 1: laughed at him. But h you know it was it was, 691 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 1: like I said, man like, you could tell like it 692 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 1: meant so much to so many people. 693 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:39,680 Speaker 2: Man, people, you. 694 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 1: Probably don't even realize how we're cool, but we don't 695 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 1: talk about you and Travis, and I don't think you 696 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,880 Speaker 1: realized what even meant for me. And it's just because 697 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,760 Speaker 1: of the type of teammates you were, type of person 698 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 1: you still are to this day. This is a weird 699 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 1: I hope I can kind of let people understand how 700 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,680 Speaker 1: oh the story is and they could get a feel 701 00:37:58,719 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 1: for it. 702 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 2: I don't know if you remember this. 703 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,680 Speaker 1: So my first year with the Texans, preseason were going 704 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,799 Speaker 1: on in a way trip and Antoine Peak for those 705 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 1: who don't know, outside linebacker. 706 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:10,839 Speaker 2: I love playing with Pete, but he was. 707 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 1: Deathly afraid of flying and we had we didn't have 708 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,880 Speaker 1: a signed seats, but for some reason he always sat 709 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 1: behind Andre Johnson and at the time, keep in mind, 710 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,440 Speaker 1: this is my first trip as a Houston Texan. It's 711 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 1: a flight and when I say Antoine is deathly afraid 712 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 1: of flying, like that's not an exaggeration, and I'm me 713 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,439 Speaker 1: and Antoine are sitting on the same aisle, but he's 714 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 1: directly behind Andre. And when the the engine starts and 715 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:41,320 Speaker 1: we hit the runway, he literally wraps his arm around 716 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,759 Speaker 1: Andre in the seat and he's like bear hugging him 717 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 1: because he's afraid. And I'm thinking, because I just met Andre, 718 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:50,880 Speaker 1: but obviously I knew who he was, Like, man, this 719 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,879 Speaker 1: Andre is gonna turn around start swinging on him. And 720 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,719 Speaker 1: when when I tell y'all, who are listening, Andre just 721 00:38:56,719 --> 00:39:01,080 Speaker 1: acting like nobody was grabbing him. You just like it 722 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,280 Speaker 1: was the weirdest but coolest thing at the same time, 723 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,359 Speaker 1: like you weren't phased by it, you weren't bothering. And 724 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,440 Speaker 1: in my mind, I'm like, does this happen every trip? 725 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 1: But when he grabbed you and he's shaking your seat, 726 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:14,760 Speaker 1: you were literally like if you were on the phone, 727 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 1: you wouldn't have skipped a beat, like explain, kind of 728 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,880 Speaker 1: explain that relationship to where that didn't bother you. So 729 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,239 Speaker 1: me and Pete were drafted. We were in the same 730 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:31,919 Speaker 1: draft class, came in together and the first time we 731 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:36,759 Speaker 1: traveled my rookie year. It was when I experienced it, 732 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:41,400 Speaker 1: like I was just like, damn, like this dude really 733 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:45,319 Speaker 1: like I've never seen nobody scared of flying like that 734 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:49,960 Speaker 1: ever in my life. So it was one other time 735 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,279 Speaker 1: that the people don't know about this, of course because 736 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,480 Speaker 1: they not on a plane with us. I was sleep 737 00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:59,160 Speaker 1: one time before we actually took off. He literally had 738 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 1: me like face and everything like hug, like just like 739 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,360 Speaker 1: this dude is crazy. But he was really really scared 740 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,640 Speaker 1: of flying. And it just became something I was just 741 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:14,920 Speaker 1: used to. Like, I'm like, if it helped him feel comfortable, 742 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:18,319 Speaker 1: I guess to be able, you know, because it would 743 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,359 Speaker 1: only last for like a few seconds. But it was 744 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 1: just you know, he was I was just used to it. 745 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,680 Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie or I used to be like, well, 746 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:30,279 Speaker 1: they keep putting it, but I did use I did 747 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,440 Speaker 1: used to say that, but but it didn't really bother me. 748 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:35,439 Speaker 1: It was something I guess. It's something you just kind 749 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,760 Speaker 1: of it just becomes y'all, uh yeah, yeah, process. 750 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:39,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. 751 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,680 Speaker 1: But when I say and I wish I had the 752 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,400 Speaker 1: words so people could kind of picture it. 753 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:45,120 Speaker 2: It was like it. 754 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:48,880 Speaker 1: Wasn't happening like you weren't laughing, you weren't like, man, fool, 755 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,560 Speaker 1: get off me. Like I don't know what exactly you 756 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:55,040 Speaker 1: were doing. You might have been texting, but you just didn't. Yeah, 757 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,799 Speaker 1: because they kip a beat. Yeah, it becomes like and 758 00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:59,359 Speaker 1: I'm looking at him like, man, get it, get your 759 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 1: hands off. Yeah, like it becomes it's almost like it 760 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:06,279 Speaker 1: it just became normal, you know. Yeah, I knew when 761 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,000 Speaker 1: we hit that run we were about to take off, 762 00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,719 Speaker 1: like all right, it's coming, like yeah, you know, and 763 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,359 Speaker 1: it just it was just normal for me. Man, Like 764 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 1: it didn't like it got to that point where it 765 00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:18,880 Speaker 1: just didn't even phase you no more, Like. 766 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,800 Speaker 2: That's amazing, Like I don't know that. That's always stuck 767 00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:22,120 Speaker 2: with me. 768 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,279 Speaker 1: And it just shows what type of and you know, 769 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,040 Speaker 1: there's this stereotype that wide receivers in the NFL are 770 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:32,279 Speaker 1: prima Donnas, which you're the complete opposite of that stereotype. 771 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:36,279 Speaker 1: But like that vision, it kind of just encapitulates who 772 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,919 Speaker 1: you are, like the fact that you know, the most 773 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,319 Speaker 1: important person on the team, the best player on the team. 774 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:42,759 Speaker 1: I know you would never say it's almost say it 775 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,880 Speaker 1: for you and it's obvious, isn't phase that a backup 776 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:49,720 Speaker 1: linebackers bear hug you know before we're going on a flight, 777 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:53,280 Speaker 1: and that's when it first kind of hit me, like, oh, okay, 778 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,719 Speaker 1: this guy's a little bit different. Like even though from 779 00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,280 Speaker 1: the way he practices and the fact that he doesn't 780 00:41:58,280 --> 00:41:59,440 Speaker 1: mind getting. 781 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:03,759 Speaker 2: Roughed up on and away trip, he's a little bit different. Man. 782 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,799 Speaker 1: Look, we've already reached our time limit. There's so many 783 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,680 Speaker 1: other things that we want to discuss, but we'll probably 784 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,440 Speaker 1: get to it another day, another time. I just want 785 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,319 Speaker 1: to congratulate you on behalf of the entire city, and 786 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:17,479 Speaker 1: more importantly, all of your teammates, because, like I said, 787 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:19,760 Speaker 1: not even the guys you and Travis are best of friends. 788 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:22,440 Speaker 1: We all have a respect for you, but the guys 789 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,960 Speaker 1: that you probably didn't even realize you've impacted. I just 790 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,400 Speaker 1: want you to know how we feel and how excited 791 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,520 Speaker 1: we were. So I'm gonna keep saying it. Next time 792 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,160 Speaker 1: I see you in an event, I hug you and say 793 00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:35,360 Speaker 1: it again. My son was so excited. He still remembers 794 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 1: when you told him he was taller than me. Like 795 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:41,280 Speaker 1: little things that you say like they just last with people. 796 00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,399 Speaker 1: But man, from the bottom of my heart, like I've 797 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,560 Speaker 1: played with hundreds of guys just like you have, and 798 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,160 Speaker 1: I don't know if I could think of one guy 799 00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:53,480 Speaker 1: that practices harder, that holds himself, you know, in a 800 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:57,560 Speaker 1: way that we all should so much enjoy it. It's 801 00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,279 Speaker 1: on my birthday, so that's gonna be a present for 802 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:04,239 Speaker 1: me watching you get honor publicly. But man, just just 803 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,600 Speaker 1: basically wanted you on this podcast so we can say congratulations. 804 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:08,960 Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Man. 805 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:13,720 Speaker 1: I think for me, like with this whole process is happening, 806 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,960 Speaker 1: is like you say, like you don't realize how many 807 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,880 Speaker 1: people you've I mean guys I didn't even play with, 808 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:26,040 Speaker 1: you know, and like here like hearing a guy like 809 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,560 Speaker 1: Marshall and Lynch come up to you and be like, man, 810 00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:33,200 Speaker 1: you was a guy like I watched, like I just 811 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:37,120 Speaker 1: watched the way you carried yourself. Like to hear that 812 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:41,839 Speaker 1: from you know, those guys, Man, it's it's a it's 813 00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:45,719 Speaker 1: a great feeling because you don't know who who you're yeah, 814 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:47,840 Speaker 1: who you're affecting, you know what I'm saying. So like 815 00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,160 Speaker 1: I never thought in a million years, man, like playing 816 00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:55,040 Speaker 1: a game, man, the kids game, and you can you know, 817 00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:56,920 Speaker 1: just hearing people say Man, you the reason why I 818 00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,080 Speaker 1: play football? Are you the reason why I'm in Texans? 819 00:43:59,080 --> 00:43:59,279 Speaker 2: Shit? 820 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,319 Speaker 1: And like it's crazy like to hear that stuff so 821 00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:06,040 Speaker 1: or even like I came in contact with guys who've 822 00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,439 Speaker 1: been in prison and they was like, man, you don't 823 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,799 Speaker 1: know how much easier you made it for me when 824 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:14,080 Speaker 1: I was locked up. Really yeah, that's strong. Yeah, So 825 00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,520 Speaker 1: it's it's crazy, man. So you never really know the 826 00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:20,840 Speaker 1: effect you can have on people by just carrying yourself 827 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:24,000 Speaker 1: the right way and just knowing you know, I'm not perfect, 828 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:27,600 Speaker 1: but you know I tried to be the best person 829 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:29,839 Speaker 1: I can. So a couple of things, and I know 830 00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:34,160 Speaker 1: I said we were over, I have two more because 831 00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:39,080 Speaker 1: again the effect. So the the Courtland Finnegan incident that 832 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:42,320 Speaker 1: was the year after I retired. So I'm actually upstairs 833 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,240 Speaker 1: when I say I had to hold myself from taking 834 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,720 Speaker 1: down the first of all, my old ass was probably 835 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,440 Speaker 1: not even make it downstairs. But I know how you are, 836 00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,960 Speaker 1: so to see you that upset it just to this 837 00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:57,200 Speaker 1: day annoyed the heck out of me. So I want 838 00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,560 Speaker 1: to just real quick because people did it. When I 839 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:03,160 Speaker 1: had my racevideo show. Every quarter of the year, somebody 840 00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:06,360 Speaker 1: will bring it up. Have y'all met since that has happened? 841 00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:11,760 Speaker 1: Have you had a chance to saw once since that happened? 842 00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:16,920 Speaker 1: But we don't. We don't speak because of that. I 843 00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:21,960 Speaker 1: just don't. I just don't really fool with dude man 844 00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:23,399 Speaker 1: like I don't. 845 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:23,879 Speaker 2: I don't. 846 00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:31,120 Speaker 1: I don't know him personally. The crazy thing is before 847 00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:35,560 Speaker 1: that happened, he we were at the Pro Bowl and 848 00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:39,440 Speaker 1: this year I think it was like three guys out 849 00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,359 Speaker 1: of their secondary they had They had a really good 850 00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,160 Speaker 1: year this year. I can't remember what year it was, 851 00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:48,360 Speaker 1: but they had like three guys out of their secondary. Him, 852 00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:51,719 Speaker 1: Chris Hope, and Mike, Mike Griffin. They all made the 853 00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:57,759 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl and men, Chris Hope was real tight. So, uh, 854 00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,680 Speaker 1: we were sitting on the back of the bus and 855 00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:05,000 Speaker 1: it's just it's so funny because it's like I'm sitting 856 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,320 Speaker 1: on the back of the bus, but I'm surrounded by 857 00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:11,799 Speaker 1: Tennessee tights, right, So we all sitting on the bus. Man, 858 00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,400 Speaker 1: Like I said, Man, Chris is real tight because we 859 00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,759 Speaker 1: played against each other in college, you know, Florida State. 860 00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:23,520 Speaker 1: So we're talking and Chris was more trying to kill 861 00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:29,360 Speaker 1: the he could tell it was like some tension between 862 00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,160 Speaker 1: me and him. So, now is this before the incident? Yeah, 863 00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,640 Speaker 1: this was before, So there was tension before that. Yeah, 864 00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,920 Speaker 1: because he's been trolling for Yeah, okay, gotcha, gotcha. So 865 00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,359 Speaker 1: a lot of people don't realize we actually got in 866 00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,640 Speaker 1: a fight. You just couldn't see it because it wasn't 867 00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:48,040 Speaker 1: as big as but we got in a fight in Tennessee. 868 00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:49,919 Speaker 2: Okay, so. 869 00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:54,680 Speaker 1: On the on the actually it was actually on our 870 00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:56,799 Speaker 1: side on our sideline. 871 00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,560 Speaker 2: Same year, the same season. No, this was the year before. Okay. 872 00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:04,480 Speaker 1: So Chris was kind of trying to you know, easey 873 00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:08,680 Speaker 1: whatever whatever. So I actually talked to him on the 874 00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:12,600 Speaker 1: back of the bus that day, so I thought everything 875 00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:16,080 Speaker 1: was cool after we talked on the back of the 876 00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:22,759 Speaker 1: bus and man, I don't know, I guess. So we 877 00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:28,040 Speaker 1: played them in Tennessee earlier that season, and that game 878 00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:32,480 Speaker 1: I got the best of them, and he I just 879 00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:36,319 Speaker 1: he was he was he was talking to me real reckless. 880 00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:41,719 Speaker 1: So I just told him like, yeah, like I was 881 00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:43,919 Speaker 1: thinking everything it was cool. Like, you know, I don't 882 00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,080 Speaker 1: played against a lot of guys and dudes talk a 883 00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,640 Speaker 1: little trash on the field, right, but it's just certain, 884 00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,600 Speaker 1: like we grown man, certain stuff you just don't say okay, 885 00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:55,880 Speaker 1: and he was talking kind of reckless and I was 886 00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,720 Speaker 1: just kind of, you know, had we exchanged a few words. 887 00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:05,080 Speaker 1: Fast forward, we come back, we play here, and he 888 00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:10,480 Speaker 1: just kept like hitting me up under my helmet and 889 00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:13,319 Speaker 1: if you if you look go back. I was miked up. 890 00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:15,840 Speaker 1: That was a crazy thing. I was micd up that 891 00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,439 Speaker 1: game and I told her ref like, I was like hey, 892 00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:21,160 Speaker 1: Like he was like, oh, I'm watching them, you know. 893 00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:26,000 Speaker 1: And after that we was up twenty to nothing, and 894 00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,160 Speaker 1: I was just like, I was sitting on the sideline. 895 00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,000 Speaker 2: I was just like, you know what. I was like, 896 00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:35,600 Speaker 2: I'm just and that's just how it went. 897 00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:39,360 Speaker 1: Like. It wasn't even because I was I just I 898 00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:41,799 Speaker 1: don't know whatever. I just was sitting on the sideline 899 00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,959 Speaker 1: and I looked up at the skowboard and I saw 900 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,839 Speaker 1: the score and I was like, we got this under wrap. 901 00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,760 Speaker 2: So I was like, that's awesome. 902 00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:54,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, man, you've dropped so many gyms today that that's awesome. 903 00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:56,919 Speaker 1: All right, that's gonna do it. We went way over. 904 00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,400 Speaker 1: But it's only once you could have not just a 905 00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,279 Speaker 1: Hall of fame, but the first ever. And they can 906 00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,400 Speaker 1: never take that away from a first ever Hall of 907 00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:08,760 Speaker 1: Famer in the organization's history. Andre Johnson, appreciate the time. 908 00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:10,719 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to give a candace so we could 909 00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:12,960 Speaker 1: do a part two, three, four, a five, because there's 910 00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:14,719 Speaker 1: so much I want to talk to you. But man, 911 00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:18,439 Speaker 1: I know you busy, like I said, and the words 912 00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,600 Speaker 1: kind of express how proud and happy we are for you. 913 00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,879 Speaker 1: So congratulations and thanks for jumping in with us. Thank you, man, 914 00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,000 Speaker 1: appreciate you for having all Right, that's gonna do it 915 00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,960 Speaker 1: for our most special episode of the OG podcast. I'm 916 00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:32,680 Speaker 1: Indi Kalu. That was Andre Johnson aka hof. We got 917 00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:36,360 Speaker 1: to find a new nickname for him. That gold Jacket 918 00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:39,400 Speaker 1: go GJ GJ. Now I'm gonna work on it. We're 919 00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,520 Speaker 1: gonna find a new nickname for my man, Andre Johnson. 920 00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,160 Speaker 1: So we all realize we're talking to a Hall of Famer. 921 00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,960 Speaker 1: We appreciate you, the listener. Don't touch that down.