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Speaker 1: Falcons fans. What's up. We are here to introduce you

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Speaker 1: to the Atlanta Falcons twenty twenty five rookie draft class.

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Speaker 1: Tory mclaney here with me and Tory. The Falcons have

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Speaker 1: wrapped up Day three of the NFL Draft. They made

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Speaker 1: two selections.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 1: Today, it's it's been a long weekend. It's been an

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Speaker 1: exciting weekend. The defense feels like it's in a very

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Speaker 1: different place. But let's start before we kind of get

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Speaker 1: into the entirety of the class and also maybe take

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Speaker 1: a quick look around the division in kind of our

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Speaker 1: wrap up two draft weekend. What do you think of

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Speaker 1: Day three?

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Speaker 2: I was very interested in Day three. I think that

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Speaker 2: it's actually it was actually a very productive day for Atlanta,

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Speaker 2: specifically because of pick onein eighteen, Billy Bowen Junior. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I truly was not. I mean, I'm in the same

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Speaker 2: camp as I think what ARIA scouts are saying, what

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Speaker 2: Jeff Albrick was saying. I don't think think anyone truly

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Speaker 2: thought that he was going I don't think anyone thought

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Speaker 2: that Bowman was going to be there at eight when eighteen.

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Speaker 2: That was the prevailing theme of that pick was that

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Speaker 2: they were shocked that he was going to be there.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I I the video which I think people

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Speaker 2: can see this on our social channels, the video of

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Speaker 2: Jeff Olbrick not in the war room but the room

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Speaker 2: next door banging on the wall when this pick came

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Speaker 2: through because he was so excited about it. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I just I think that.

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Speaker 1: He again he is so We've said this, I think

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Speaker 1: on every podcast, but like the energy from Olbrick has

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Speaker 1: been so palpable this week.

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Speaker 2: And well, if you're a defensive coordinator and you just

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Speaker 2: got four potential starters ye that have kind of the

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Speaker 2: ceiling of being full time starters for your defense very

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Speaker 2: early on in their careers, you do feel pretty good

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Speaker 2: about it. I think that we said it on day one.

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Speaker 2: We said it again last night when we were talking

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Speaker 2: about Xavier Watts. This is a team, an organization that

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Speaker 2: just took a major step forward defensively because of the

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Speaker 2: picks made. And then of course there's Jack Nelson kind

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Speaker 2: of to round out the group. I think that was

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Speaker 2: a very safe, solid pick. You go out and you

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Speaker 2: get an offensive line. When you build up along the

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Speaker 2: offensive line, you can always, always, always, always use offensive lineman.

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Speaker 2: There's never a time when you don't need one. So

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Speaker 2: I think collectively Day three was a little bit surprising

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Speaker 2: because of Billy Bowman Junior, and then the Jack Nelson

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Speaker 2: pick makes a lot of sense. I just I think

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Speaker 2: when I look at this draft class in totality, this

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Speaker 2: is I think has the potential to be one of

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Speaker 2: Terry font knows best.

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Speaker 1: I agree, and it is his smallest. It ties for

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Speaker 1: the fewest number of picks in Falcon's history with that

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Speaker 1: two thousand and six draft class, which our guy DJ

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Speaker 1: Shockley was part of, but it will be I think

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Speaker 1: an impactful one. And that was kind of the theme

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Speaker 1: leading into it. Was Terry Fondo, you know, sitting there

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Speaker 1: on Wednesday, saying, yeah, we only have five picks, and

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Speaker 1: who knows I load more or not. But like, regardless

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Speaker 1: of how many picks you have, you have to hit

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Speaker 1: on the players that you take, and you need to

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Speaker 1: get impact players, and that was their goal and time

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Speaker 1: will tell ultimately, Like we're in reactive mode, but like

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Speaker 1: we got await a couple of years to really evaluate

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Speaker 1: a draft class, and I think though we will look

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Speaker 1: back on it feeling the same way that we do now,

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Speaker 1: which is Okay, you went and got some really proven

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Speaker 1: high level SEC pass rushers to come in here and

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Speaker 1: you know, together kind of take on as James Pierce

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Speaker 1: called it, a mission. Yeah, and then you added two

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Speaker 1: guys on the back end, one of whom will truly

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Speaker 1: and Billy sorry not Billy Bowman, say you're w Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then Billy Bowman will be the kind of nickel

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Speaker 1: like inside competing with the Alford Clark Phillips like that

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Speaker 1: I agree, like I didn't expect him to be there

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Speaker 1: either in the fourth round. He's actually a player. When

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Speaker 1: we were doing our Day two like best available prospects, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that I put down and I.

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Speaker 3: Put him down.

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Speaker 1: I did you put him out?

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Speaker 3: I put him down?

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Speaker 1: Okay, well I thought about putting him down. I may

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Speaker 1: have then put him down again for Day three or

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Speaker 1: I wrote about but yeah, yeah, he was saying I

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Speaker 1: So I think I debated between both of those guys.

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Speaker 1: You were smart enough to go with the Billy Bowman.

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Speaker 1: I went the wrong direction, but yeah, he so then

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Speaker 1: when I saw him for the Day three one. I

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Speaker 1: So if him being available it at first blush is

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Speaker 1: like they doubled up on edge and then they doubled

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Speaker 1: up on safety, But that's not it's how you're using

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Speaker 1: it exactly.

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Speaker 2: Also like okay, doubling up on edge. When you're talking

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Speaker 2: Pierce Junior, it's like, okay, kind of yeah.

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Speaker 1: Sort of, but it's not the same as like ezeraku

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Speaker 1: and and James Pearce right exactly.

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Speaker 2: They're different mechanics, different type of players in different builds,

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Speaker 2: different ways that they're going to play. Even though Jeff

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Speaker 2: Oulbrick did say today we had a media availability with

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Speaker 2: Jeff Ulbrick and he kind of reiterated what he told

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Speaker 2: me earlier in the week where he's like, you know,

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Speaker 2: I really want Jalen Walker to be able to focus

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Speaker 2: on like one thing, really finding him a home specifically

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Speaker 2: as an edge rusher. And I think like that was

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Speaker 2: be like, look, yes he can do all these things,

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Speaker 2: but they do feel like they're in a good spot

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Speaker 2: with Kaden Ellis. They do feel like they're in a

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Speaker 2: good spot with Divine Diablo Troy Anderson, So that inside

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Speaker 2: linebacker group is an okay spot. Being able to bring

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Speaker 2: if you're listening, you're like, where is she going? But

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Speaker 2: to take him up a level in terms of his

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Speaker 2: pass rush is only going to pay dividends moving forward

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Speaker 2: when you potentially could get him moving around and doing

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Speaker 2: more things in the versatile style of which we've known

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Speaker 2: him to be the last year at Georgia. So he's

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Speaker 2: a completely different player than what James Pearce Junior is.

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Speaker 2: James Piers Junior is a guy who's gonna come off

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Speaker 2: the edge and literally go do one thing. Go get

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Speaker 2: the quarterback, beat your guy, beat your guy, then get

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Speaker 2: the quarterback, whatever comes first.

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Speaker 3: Honestly, he's probably beat your guy and then get the quarterback.

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Speaker 3: But that's the deal.

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Speaker 2: And then with Xavier Watts and with Billy Bowman Jr.

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Speaker 2: of this like almost like mirror to Jesse Bates in

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Speaker 2: a way. And obviously his player comp is Jesse Bates.

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Speaker 2: He says, he's marveling. He's he's taking his game and

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Speaker 2: mimicking it with Jesse Bates. And that's something you said

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Speaker 2: all the time throughout the pre draft process. So that's

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Speaker 2: his role, that's his niche. And then Billy Bowman junr

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Speaker 2: I was talking to Jerry Gray today, you were talking

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Speaker 2: to tarn was talking to Jeff all Brick this morning,

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Speaker 2: and both of them confirmed, They're like, we're moving him

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Speaker 2: to nickel. They're like, we're going to see what he's

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Speaker 2: most comfortable in. We're gonna kind of see. And he's

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Speaker 2: done a little bit of everything for Oklahoma. He's been

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Speaker 2: a four year starter there in the box, in the slot,

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Speaker 2: nickel safety, like field safety, Like he's done just about

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Speaker 2: everything at the position. But they really really valued him

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Speaker 2: a niche. And I think that's something that was a

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Speaker 2: theme for these picks, especially these four defensive guys, is

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Speaker 2: there is a very specific role that this coaching staff

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Speaker 2: wants to carve out for each of them to go

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Speaker 2: and be successful.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's important and I think Honestly, if anybody

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Speaker 1: hasn't yet, go listen to Jeff ulbricks press conference today, Like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: go listen to everything. Go check out all the great

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Speaker 1: video content that when you were saying from here to here,

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Speaker 1: and even though again this is an audio medium unless

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Speaker 1: you're watching on our YouTube channel, I was like, if

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Speaker 1: anybody's seen Terry Fonteau over the last three days, they

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Speaker 1: know exactly what you were doing, because.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is this is this movie, he lives in this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. But Olbrick is very I think intense and mindful

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Speaker 1: of exactly how he wants to use these guys. And

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Speaker 1: when you have a player and I wrote about this

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Speaker 1: a little bit today on Saturday as we record about

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Speaker 1: Jalen Walker and kind of a player who he has

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Speaker 1: watched closely, who he has a relationship with in Micah Parsons.

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Speaker 1: And I know that is a weighted comparison to make,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not even necessarily making the comparison because they

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Speaker 1: are different players. But in kind of talking about that,

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Speaker 1: Olbrick said, yeah, versatility can be a superpower, but it

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Speaker 1: can also be your kryptonite a little bit. And one

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Speaker 1: of my favorite players as a prospect in like draft

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Speaker 1: history is Isaiah Simmons coming out of Clemson. Unfortunately, his

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Speaker 1: think it's exactly the right approach for the Falcons to say, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you can do all of that, and that's great that

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Speaker 1: we know one day we can build you out in

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Speaker 1: some of these other skill trees. But to start, we

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Speaker 1: Here's what we're really going to have you work on.

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Speaker 1: And the benefit in the luxury of having a guy

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Speaker 1: and even honestly like Leonard Floyd, Braylan Trice, Arenold eb Katie,

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Speaker 1: the guys that they do have all over the place

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Speaker 1: will allow them to maybe more specifically narrow in Jalen's role.

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Speaker 1: So I think that even though there is some redundancy

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Speaker 1: on paper when you look at the positions these guys play,

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Speaker 1: no they've added, for true kind of like pieces to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, and I think it's really interesting if

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Speaker 2: we're just talking about like drafting strategy.

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Speaker 3: And I'll probably write this.

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Speaker 2: In a column as we're recapping this specific draft class.

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Speaker 2: But something that I was just thinking off the top

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Speaker 2: of my head is the surprise of what this draft was.

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Speaker 2: And I think the Falcons are a really interesting case

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Speaker 2: study in how the draft ultimately fell and being pleasantly

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Speaker 2: surprised by what you had and not so obviously, it's

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Speaker 2: no secret they did not think that Jalen Walker was

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Speaker 2: going to be there at number fifteen, right, Yeah, they

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Speaker 2: didn't think he was going to be there. I think

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Speaker 2: James Pierce Junior was their guy through and through. They

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Speaker 2: wanted him, they liked him.

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Speaker 3: He's a jeff.

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Speaker 2: Oldbrig type of player, and they fell in love with

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Speaker 2: him and the way his play style. But when you're

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Speaker 2: sitting there at fifteen and you're looking dead in the

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Speaker 2: eyes of Jayleen Walker.

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Speaker 1: They've been listening to you just literally raft season, being like,

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Speaker 1: he's not getting past Carolina. Guys, I don't know what

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because you need this defense if you believe that

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Speaker 3: Impact.

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Speaker 1: To be you absolutely will again. I think that it's

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Speaker 3: It's it's Xavier Watts.

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Speaker 2: I feel kind of silly by not saying either Jaalen

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Speaker 3: I think that Xavier.

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Speaker 2: Watts is going to be exceptionally impactful if he becomes

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Speaker 2: And I'm if you listen to our podcast breaking down

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Speaker 2: to entertain the thought of Jalen Walker because I don't

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00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,359
Speaker 2: think he's gonna be there, like and then he was,

438
00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,840
Speaker 2: and it's like, oh wow, that's fun, Like that's great.

439
00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,000
Speaker 2: And then to meet Jalen Walker and to meet James

440
00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,280
Speaker 2: christ Junior and to get into their heads and hear

441
00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:40,280
Speaker 2: their stories is fantastic. But Xavier Watch the player is

442
00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:44,200
Speaker 2: the one that I personally gravitated towards the most out

443
00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,960
Speaker 2: of this group in what he could be if he's

444
00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:48,320
Speaker 2: partnering with Jesse Bates.

445
00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:50,879
Speaker 1: You love a ball hawk, I do, of course. That

446
00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:52,399
Speaker 1: would Actually, that would be a fun episode. Like what

447
00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,639
Speaker 1: are the types of players if we were going to

448
00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,119
Speaker 1: power rank, if you could have any archetype, Yeah, the

449
00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:00,359
Speaker 1: player like a gunslinger versus just like a scap.

450
00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:02,080
Speaker 3: That would be fine. I would love it.

451
00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,760
Speaker 2: I'm a very traditional though I do think I am

452
00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:06,199
Speaker 2: way more traditional than I am not.

453
00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,280
Speaker 1: Okay, it's fair, but I'll go with Jalen Walker. It

454
00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:13,000
Speaker 1: kind of obvious, feels like, and I have high hopes

455
00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,520
Speaker 1: for James Pearce. I have high hopes for everybody. It's

456
00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,600
Speaker 1: more the kind of characteristics, the leadership traits, like being

457
00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:20,520
Speaker 1: able to talk to him in that press conference when

458
00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,720
Speaker 1: he was introduced to the Atlanta media. It's very clear

459
00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,760
Speaker 1: how thoughtfully is how smart of just kind of like

460
00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:30,639
Speaker 1: composed all of those things. And I was just thinking about,

461
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,480
Speaker 1: you know, in the same offseason that you part ways

462
00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,679
Speaker 1: with Grady Jarrett, who has forever been kind of like

463
00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,480
Speaker 1: viewed as the leader, the central figure.

464
00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:40,320
Speaker 3: The heart and soul of the defense.

465
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, the statesman of this Atlanta Falcons defense, You kind

466
00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,800
Speaker 1: of have a void there, right, and Jesse Bates incredible

467
00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:48,960
Speaker 1: leader in his own right of defensive team captain, like

468
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,720
Speaker 1: I would expect him to step in there, right, Leonard

469
00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,920
Speaker 1: Floyd probably as well as like the connection of Raheem Morris,

470
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,800
Speaker 1: things like that. I think, yeah, they'll all emerge to

471
00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,560
Speaker 1: leadership naturally takes kind of like it falls as it does.

472
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,800
Speaker 1: But I think it is important that you drafted a

473
00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 1: player who is universally like Kirby Smart, all of his

474
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:11,480
Speaker 1: Georgia teammates a school of alphas. Yeah, honestly, the University

475
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:12,879
Speaker 1: of Georgia is and.

476
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:14,840
Speaker 3: As too alphas ourselves exactly.

477
00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 1: And Jalen Walker is the alpha of alphas, right at

478
00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:19,879
Speaker 1: least according to everything I've read, everything I've heard. But

479
00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 1: sitting there in that first press conference, I was like,

480
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,120
Speaker 1: all right, I get it. I get it. So if

481
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,080
Speaker 1: he's even, you know, three quarters of as good on

482
00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,720
Speaker 1: the field as I expect him to be, I'll be thrilled.

483
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,959
Speaker 1: But like the leadership qualities, I just can't wait to

484
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,080
Speaker 1: continue to talk to him to see how he grows

485
00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 1: and matures as a player, because that's one of the

486
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 1: fun parts of this job is seeing a fresh face

487
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,359
Speaker 1: Grady Jarrett in your one and then kind of talking

488
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,119
Speaker 1: to him in your seven ye and you did the

489
00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,720
Speaker 1: whole decade like peace on him, and I'm sure that

490
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:48,440
Speaker 1: was a lot of reflecting for you as well. And

491
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,840
Speaker 1: it's just cool to see these guys grow and change, mature.

492
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,879
Speaker 2: And like, well you think about Ajtrell coming out of here,

493
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 2: Yeah too, I remember, and I won't say names, but

494
00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,560
Speaker 2: I remember one time being like, I was talking to

495
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,159
Speaker 2: a friend of mine who covered AJ at Clemson and

496
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 2: and they were like, he doesn't really talk.

497
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 3: All that much. He's not really a big talker.

498
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:12,919
Speaker 2: And now seeing how AJ has blossomed into a he

499
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,640
Speaker 2: still is not a huge talker, but he's so confident

500
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:20,359
Speaker 2: in himself and you trust and he has such a

501
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 2: like presence about him, and he's kind of become so

502
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,239
Speaker 2: comfortable in his own skin and so confident in his

503
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 2: own skin that even when I did a podcast with

504
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,440
Speaker 2: him recently and thinking back, because he was the very

505
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,359
Speaker 2: very first podcast guest that I did for Falcons and

506
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 2: Focus like at the Stadium, it wasn't it was just

507
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:40,440
Speaker 2: kind of the original idea that we had and he

508
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,200
Speaker 2: was the first one I remember even then thinking back

509
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 2: on like he's now been in the podcast chair with

510
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:49,720
Speaker 2: me three times and who he was, Like even this

511
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 2: is even in like year two or year three that

512
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 2: he was here, but now going into like his contract

513
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,400
Speaker 2: extension and having him talk about his career, I mean,

514
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 2: that's there's something validating in that. And it's also not

515
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 2: just validating, but it's I think the human experience not

516
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 2: to get philosophical on this, but the human experience of

517
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,119
Speaker 2: like people changing, people grow, and who people are in

518
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 2: their first year in the league when they're drinking water

519
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:14,880
Speaker 2: out of a fire hydrant in their rookies and they'd

520
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 2: never stop and it's just all the time, non stop,

521
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 2: is not who they're going to be down the road,

522
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 2: and they're going to grow and change and evolve, and

523
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 2: give them the chance to give them the chance to

524
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 2: get better, give them the chance to make their mistakes

525
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 2: and grow from those. And I think like that's something

526
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:35,119
Speaker 2: that if these players have the opportunity to be starters

527
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 2: very early on, they're not going to be one hundred

528
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 2: percent all the time.

529
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 3: No player is.

530
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 2: But I feel really good about where they could be

531
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 2: and honestly, where.

532
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,120
Speaker 3: They may even be seven or eight games in too.

533
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,160
Speaker 3: You know, you don't know. Right now, we're in.

534
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 2: The very early stages of evaluating these players. We haven't

535
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 2: even seen them in a Falcons uniform yet. We haven't

536
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,919
Speaker 2: even seen them on the practice field yet. Even though

537
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 2: I can look at James Friers Junior and be.

538
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:02,360
Speaker 3: Like, you're a tall dude, Like you're huge, how do.

539
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 2: You run a four four seven? But like, we haven't

540
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,159
Speaker 2: seen them yet, we don't know what the vision is.

541
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 2: We can hear Jeff uhlerbrig talk about what he would

542
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,880
Speaker 2: like to do with these guys. Maybe that changes, maybe

543
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:13,239
Speaker 2: that evolves very early on.

544
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:13,919
Speaker 3: We don't know.

545
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 2: I think ultimately there is optimism about this draft class

546
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:21,360
Speaker 2: and the impact they can make.

547
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. I like your perspective there, though, because we are

548
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 1: viewing them like it's so easy to forget that when

549
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,880
Speaker 1: when Jayalen Walker and James Pearce walked in this facility

550
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,679
Speaker 1: like bright wide eyes, like oh my god, I've just

551
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 1: gone through the craziest period of my life. This is

552
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 1: my dream coming to and we're all sitting here being like, yeah,

553
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,879
Speaker 1: but how versatile can you really be? Are you biting

554
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:46,920
Speaker 1: off too much before you can do one thing? Or

555
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 1: should you do. And like now they're nick picking and

556
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 1: doing all this and they're just like, you know, mini

557
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 1: camps a little while away, right, I just got selected,

558
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:56,919
Speaker 1: I got my new job, my family's here. So it's like,

559
00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:01,160
Speaker 1: it's a great kind of let's keep perspective. Let's let's

560
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 1: not put the cart before the horse. They'll get out

561
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 1: there on the field, we'll see how they grow mature,

562
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 1: we'll see the rules they'll change.

563
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 3: And I'm excited about it.

564
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're not. They're not stuck in in cement right now,

565
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 1: and they're not a finished product at all. But there's

566
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 1: so much exciting about their game and the possibility of

567
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 1: what they could become. So let me ask you, after

568
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,400
Speaker 1: the draft, free agency, you know, the waves have come

569
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,399
Speaker 1: and gone. There will be a small mini wave, as

570
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 1: there usually is after free agency, But what else is

571
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 1: left for the Falcons to do with their roster?

572
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 3: So I think that one a is Kirk Cousins.

573
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 2: He's going to continue to be the elephant in the

574
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 2: room until he's not and whatever that means. And I

575
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,959
Speaker 2: think that seeing how the quarterback market shook out from

576
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 2: the draft is going to make some other dominoes across

577
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 2: the league fall I think that there is going to

578
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 2: be some quarterback movement, some quarterback conversations, probably in the

579
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,119
Speaker 2: next week or two, especially when you get closer to

580
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 2: that June one cut off date.

581
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,919
Speaker 3: So that's one A, and'll.

582
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 1: Be we'll be keeping track of that monitoring in so Yeah, Kirk.

583
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 2: Cousins watch is it's gonna be again. It's gonna be

584
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 2: a thing until it's not a thing. So that's one A.

585
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 2: I do think just kind of looking at the scope

586
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 2: of what the Falcons need, I do want to see

587
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 2: them bring in a little competition for Ryan Noozle at center.

588
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 2: I know I've said this a couple times over the

589
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 2: podcast the last couple of days. I didn't think it

590
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 2: was absolutely necessary that they drafted a center, but let's

591
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 2: see kind of some guys that they get off the

592
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,919
Speaker 2: UDFA market that bring in and who can kind of

593
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 2: push Ryan Newsal a little bit. It's like, you need

594
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 2: you need someone in there. You can't just kind of

595
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 2: give the guy no no player, whether it's Drake London,

596
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 2: Jon Robinson, Michael Pennix, like you gotta have a little

597
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 2: bit of that pushing.

598
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, how single coach wants to create competition right, right?

599
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 3: That's that's what you do this for. So I would

600
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:53,119
Speaker 3: really like to see them go.

601
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 2: And maybe that's a veteran somewhere that may still be

602
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 2: out and about roaming around, or someone off of a

603
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 2: practice squad. So cinner is kind of a little bit

604
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 2: of a question mark.

605
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 3: Dot dot dot for me.

606
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 2: I also think that if there are some big time

607
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 2: D tackles out there, you know, if there are some

608
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 2: big body D tackles that are coming off of the

609
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 2: they're still on the free agency market or their UDFA.

610
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,199
Speaker 1: Who's this year's Eddie Goldman?

611
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 2: Right? Yeah, Who's who's this big body defensive lineman that

612
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 2: can come in and eat up space in the middle

613
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 2: and be a rotational player if and when needed.

614
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 3: Those are the two areas. Again.

615
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,400
Speaker 1: It's funny the guys like right across from each other.

616
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 2: Literally is right in the middle of that of the

617
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,959
Speaker 2: line of scrimmage is where I'm looking in terms of

618
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 2: this this roster.

619
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 1: You want a package deal? Yeah, I think makes a

620
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 1: lot of sense. And it's kind of as Day three

621
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 1: was going along and everybody was like who should we

622
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: still take, Like who's on the board, I was kind

623
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: of defaulting to some of those same things. Because when

624
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 1: you're looking at the roster, you're like, all right, if

625
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 1: I was going to pick and choose and plug you

626
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: know here, here, and here, the one I will say

627
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 1: in addition to those two would be wide receiver. Right. Yeah,

628
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 1: it was kind of the other spot that I thought

629
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 1: the Falcons could could maybe target in the seventh round.

630
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 1: There there were some interesting players, but they chose not

631
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: to of the positions though, like center, a big more

632
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: run stuffing tackle, and a third slash fourth receiver. Those

633
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 1: you can find those. Yes, I think the Falcons will

634
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 1: be able to add those as the summer takes along,

635
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 1: Spring turns into summer or whatever. So yeah, if those

636
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 1: are your kind of needs coming out of the draft.

637
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 3: I'll take it.

638
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 1: You're you're sitting pretty pretty I'll take.

639
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 2: It, especially considering how many defensive needs we have talked about.

640
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 1: O crazy howver again gotten here from where they were

641
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: in the off season.

642
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, very beginning of the off season.

643
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 2: Because remember I think I even said a podcast very

644
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 2: early on and we kind of you kind of gave

645
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 2: me a look. I remember this because I was like,

646
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 2: you know, there may be seven or eight starters of

647
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 2: the Falcons are looking to get like defensively, and I

648
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 2: think I said maybe I said six or seven, not.

649
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 3: Seven or eight.

650
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 2: And here we are now at the end of the draft,

651
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 2: and it's like, there's to your point, there's gonna be

652
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 2: a lot of new faces and a lot of new

653
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 2: rotations and a lot of new groupings, and I'm very

654
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 2: excited to see kind of what everything pans out to be.

655
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Speaker 1: Cool. Well, let's go ahead and wrap up today's podcast

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Speaker 1: with a quick look around the division. The Panthers made

657
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 1: seven picks. I believe the first round pick Ted McMillan,

658
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 1: out wide receiver, a bit of a surprise for everybody.

659
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: But then they did double up on the defense side

660
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 1: of the ball with a pair of edges, Nick Schurtzen

661
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 1: and Princely Uman Milan. There you go, I maybe I

662
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:35,239
Speaker 1: don't know, do you stick the landing judges? Okay, it was.

663
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 1: They also got a you know, our George boy Trevor ETN,

664
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Speaker 1: Lathan Ransom out of Ohio State, Cam Jackson defensive tackle

665
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 1: out of Florida, Mitch Levin's out of Notre Dame tight end,

666
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 1: and then they wrapped it up in the sixth round

667
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 1: with Jimmy Horn junior of Colorado. Any of those picks,

668
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 1: like really stand out to you for what Carolina did.

669
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Speaker 2: I mean, Carolina pumps so much into their defense during

670
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 2: free a free agency, so I was even though I

671
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 2: kept giving them Jalen Walker, I understand the Tet McMillan pick,

672
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 2: and I understand the Trevor ETN pick, and I the

673
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 2: Travis Sorry whichever one Trevor sorry. I'm like I literally

674
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 2: went I was like, that's not right, and then I

675
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 2: was like, no, that is right, It is right.

676
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 3: I was second guessing myself, but.

677
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 2: I understood the strategy behind that, and I understood after

678
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 2: all of it was said and done, why they valued

679
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 2: Tet McMillan so highly, because they had they pumped their

680
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 2: free agency resources into that defense. A lot of free

681
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 2: agency resources into that defense. That defense I think has

682
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 2: fundamentally changed. Yes, so you needed someone who can move

683
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,479
Speaker 2: the needle for you offensively, and I think they went

684
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 2: out and got the guy.

685
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 1: Yeah. It's interesting to me that he was comped so

686
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: often too Drake Lennon during the pre draft process, and

687
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 1: it's like the Panthers have just watched Drake London just

688
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 1: tear them up and like do great things for the

689
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 1: last three years and they were like, we'll take one

690
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: of those. Please. What's that table over there? Eating? Man

691
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: looks good? Can I get one of those? Yeah? Yeah?

692
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 1: So and also his size if your quarterback is smaller,

693
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 1: you know, Drew Brees had a lot of tall, wide receivers.

694
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 1: I'm sure that that helps, you know, just being able

695
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: to lob it up there. So that is what the

696
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: Panthers did. Are you feeling better or worse about the

697
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 1: Panthers at this point? Are the same? I feel feel worse.

698
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 2: Honestly, I feel I just feel like the Panthers have

699
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 2: really are really going to take a step in and

700
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 2: be more competitive in twenty twenty five because I really

701
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 2: liked the the the Bobby Brown, the third yeah pick

702
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 2: up extending J C. Horn like they went and got

703
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 2: to think a pair of ed Rusher or another Oh

704
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 2: to shn Wharton. Yep, there are some guys that some

705
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 2: dudes that I think they got for their defense that

706
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 2: I again I think is gonna move the needle for them.

707
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 1: I agree. They were one of the fun kind of

708
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: like stories late in the year, right, So it would

709
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: be all right if the Panthers kind of do well. Right,

710
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: So let's have them take a step forward and the

711
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 1: Bucks and the Saints can just stay at the bottom

712
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: new era. Speaking of this, Saints though, they made let's

713
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 1: see what we have eight selections, starting with Kelvin Banks Junior,

714
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: the offensive tackle in the first round of pick number nine.

715
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: What were your thoughts when they went offensive tackle?

716
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 2: I did give I drafted them. I mocked a couple

717
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 2: of offensive tackles to them because I did know that

718
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 2: was in need for them. They were in need of

719
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 2: a starting tackle more often than not. I went defense though,

720
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 2: I even like cornerback. I went linebacker with them. I

721
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 2: went edge rusher with them. So to see that they

722
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 2: were valuing offensive tackle that need I think so highly,

723
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 2: was very interesting. What's more interesting about the Saints.

724
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 1: Though second round pick is their second round pick, Yeak

725
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 1: Tyler Tyler Shuck out of Louisville quarterback. Everybody you know,

726
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 1: when the Derek Carr kind of reports started coming out,

727
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 1: the Saints were talked about as a shadoor team. Maybe

728
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: they didn't do it in the first round. They waited

729
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: until the second round. What do you think about Tyler Shuck?

730
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 2: I I'm so interested to see what shakes out with

731
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 2: the quarterback situation with the Saints, Like, it's that quarterback

732
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 2: room is fascinating. You can kind of joke about how

733
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 2: some quarterback rooms, like you can talk about the Browns

734
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,320
Speaker 2: who did get sor Sanders and they got Joe Flacco

735
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,720
Speaker 2: and they got Kenny Pickett.

736
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Speaker 1: Or like the Seahawks, you know, yeah, Sea Hawks, we

737
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,720
Speaker 1: came out before they traded Sam Howell back to the Viking, right.

738
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Like there are some interesting like groupings of

739
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 2: quarterbacks across the league, and the Saints are one of

740
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 2: the weirder ones. And what happens if Derek Carr isn't

741
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 2: one hundred percent in twenty twenty five? Who are you

742
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 2: gonna run out there? Like do you do you run

743
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,720
Speaker 2: out Taylor? Do you run out Spencer Rattler?

744
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, I don't know, And.

745
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 2: I'm glad I don't have to make any decisions on

746
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 2: that because that that whole situation seems really kind of

747
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 2: up the creek without a paddle. It's like nice, that's

748
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 2: that's kind of how I feel about it, that quarterback situation.

749
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,359
Speaker 1: Well, they've they've gotten out of the creek, they've found

750
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 1: their banks, and now they can move forward with the

751
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 1: offensive line. You're looking at me like I was ready

752
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 1: to just end this.

753
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 3: I was going back.

754
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 2: And forth between like just booing on the spot or

755
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:11,760
Speaker 2: like throwing my computer.

756
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 3: It went back and forth. I didn't either. I kept

757
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 3: it together.

758
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:18,280
Speaker 1: This is a very regular occurrence. So I am totally

759
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 1: normal and cool with this, and we'll take it in shred.

760
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:25,240
Speaker 1: Moving on, Vernon Broughton, the defensive tackle out of Texas

761
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: with the third round pick. Jonas Sanker, safety out of Virginia.

762
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: Another third round pick for them, Danny Streutzman, Oklahoma linebacker.

763
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: A lot of Oklahoma defenders kind of in this cycle,

764
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 1: Notre Dame, like good, good, solid, like big school defensive players.

765
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 1: I always like to see that. Quincy Riley cornerback out

766
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 1: of Louisville, Devin Neil running back Kansas, Malachy Mataveo, Yep,

767
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: pretty sure I nailed that one. Yep, tight end UCLA

768
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: and Fidel Diggs wrapping it up in the seventh round.

769
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 1: The Edge out of Syracuse, who was somebody like I

770
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 1: kind of kept looking at just going through the mock

771
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 1: drafts in the seventh round for the Falcons. So did

772
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,439
Speaker 1: the Saints move the needle in any way for you?

773
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: With kind of their offensive tackle selection in the first round.

774
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 2: No, no, no, because I think they have bigger issues

775
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,720
Speaker 2: than offensive tackle. I think they have bigger fish to fry,

776
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 2: and I don't know what's gonna happen with them.

777
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 3: So the needle didn't.

778
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 2: I mean, I can say that it got like worse,

779
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 2: like you know, like I can't say that it dipped,

780
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 2: but I don't think it moved.

781
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 3: For me at all.

782
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotcha. I feel the exact same way. So

783
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 1: moving on to Tampa Bay, who won the NFC South

784
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 1: last year, they went with Amikagbuka in the first round

785
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 1: of again a kind of a surprise. I watched a

786
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 1: receiver pick for the Bucks. He's somebody who's constantly kind

787
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: of comped to Chris Godwin. Right, so now you got

788
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: just a couple of them.

789
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 2: Hey, you know they're kind of just trying to outscore

790
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 2: people at this point, you know, like they're just like,

791
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 2: we feel good about Baker, Mike Evans, Chris Godwin. Now

792
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 2: now you have a third option, which, like, at.

793
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 1: That's a good third receiver.

794
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 3: He is, the fact that.

795
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 2: Your third receiver is a number well, but also the

796
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 2: number nineteen overall first round pick is kind of like bananas.

797
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,359
Speaker 2: But like when you have Mike Green or Mike Green.

798
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,959
Speaker 2: When you have Mike Evans and then you have Chris

799
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 2: Godwin out there, it's kind of like, well, dang, Like.

800
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm looking, didn't they draft last year McMillan

801
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 1: out of Washington? Did they? So don't they have I'm

802
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: trying to the internet here. We have body all the weekend.

803
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 2: That is one thing that is we've all been working

804
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 2: so hard. There's so many people in Flowery Branch that

805
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 2: the Wi Fi is like.

806
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 1: All right, but I got their roster pulled up. Let's

807
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 1: see wide receiver. Yeah, Jalen McMillan. They drafted them right

808
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 1: last year, so they are just like draft picks, draft picks,

809
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: draft picks at wide receiver. Yeah, you know, you can't

810
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: blame them, but it feels like there's a logjam a

811
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 1: little bit.

812
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 3: It does well.

813
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 2: It's like with the same conversation that you always have

814
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,720
Speaker 2: with the Falcons when you have coll Pits, Drake London,

815
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 2: but John Robinson, Tyler Algier, Darnelle Mooney, like, you have

816
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 2: so many offensive weapons, how can you possibly make all

817
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 2: of them happy?

818
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 3: How can you possibly get the ball in all of

819
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 3: their hands? And the truth is you can't. The truth is,

820
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,959
Speaker 3: it's like you have to hope that like.

821
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 2: Egos don't stand in the way, because then there's like

822
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 2: if they do, then then you got guys being pissed

823
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 2: that they're not getting the ball and they're not, you know,

824
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 2: potentially gonna get paid their next contract. But I think,

825
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,240
Speaker 2: like that's not been a problem here in Atlanta. It'll

826
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 2: be interesting to see kind of what happens with the

827
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 2: Bucks moving forward. They're a lethal offense, though they have

828
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 2: been I think for a while. Ever since Baker Mayfield

829
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 2: has really dug his heels down in that offense, they've

830
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,439
Speaker 2: been really good and they're hard to stop. I think

831
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 2: they just got harder to stop. But I don't know

832
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 2: if they did anything to shure up like certain positions

833
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 2: future Like that was the big thing with me, is

834
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 2: why I kept going to hide Campbell to them linebacker

835
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 2: Ount of Alabama at nineteen. It was because Levonte David

836
00:38:58,600 --> 00:38:59,720
Speaker 2: is not getting any younger.

837
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 1: He's been not getting any younger for like seven years, right,

838
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: And I.

839
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,800
Speaker 2: Think at a certain point you got to start thinking about, Okay,

840
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 2: like what is the the kind of second wave of

841
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 2: your defense look like? And what does it look like

842
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:14,320
Speaker 2: when some of these guys who are aging are aging out,

843
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 2: and what do you do next? So I think it's

844
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 2: it's interesting, it's an interesting strategy, and we'll kind of

845
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 2: see where those holes are for the bucks.

846
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:23,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's kind of like, what was that space

847
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: for improvement? If you are already A, if you're already minus, Like, yeah,

848
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: you go to an A is like a small jump

849
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 1: as already C plus to a B plus.

850
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 2: Right, when you already have Mike Evans, when you already

851
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 2: have Chris Gonw when you already have like million, what's.

852
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 1: The opportunity costs for another position to get better? Right,

853
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 1: to make an incremental gain for a fourth receiver? Ye, yeah,

854
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 1: that's I'm with you on that. It's interesting. But they

855
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 1: Kate Oughten too, right, And plus Baker Mayfield noted dual

856
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 1: threat quarterback. He's got to get his touches, got to

857
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:54,320
Speaker 1: design some bootlegs for him. They they went defense. So

858
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,720
Speaker 1: the next four picks doubled up at corner Benjamin Morrison

859
00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 1: out of Notre Dame. A lot of people, you know,

860
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 1: some mocked him to the Falcons, tied him to the Falcons.

861
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 1: Kansas State cornerback Jacob Parrish was their third round pick,

862
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 1: and then they went edge with David Walker from Central

863
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: Arkansas or no, I'm not even gonna try to say

864
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: how the the like Irish LA a lot of international fans. Yeah, yeah,

865
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 1: but it was it was like an Arkansas in there.

866
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 1: And then Elijah Roberts out of SMU, another edge defender,

867
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 1: before they wrapped it up with Oregon wide receiver Tes

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Speaker 1: Johnson in the seventh round. Who was I know, he's tiny.

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Speaker 1: He was one of my favorite players at the Senior Bowl,

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Speaker 1: but he lit it up at the Senior Bowl. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so two wide receivers. I like both of them there

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Speaker 1: their corners. I do like Benjamin Morrison. David Walker somebody

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Speaker 1: I looked at, but he makes sense for them. Not

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Speaker 1: so much Atlanta because like he could be a fourth

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Speaker 1: or fifth pass rusher and more of a designated like

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Speaker 1: go get them kind of guy. But out of everybody

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Speaker 1: aside from Atlanta, the other NFC South teams, I kind

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Speaker 1: of liked the Bucks draft.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, to me, it's the most interesting, it's the most intriguing.

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Speaker 2: It's the one that I'm most curious about. And I

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Speaker 2: think that I said the Saints didn't really move the

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Speaker 2: needle for me, I said, the Panthers, you know, kind

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Speaker 2: of maybe did a little bit the Bucks. I do

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Speaker 2: think according to how some of these second third round pick,

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Speaker 2: the day two picks kind of pan out for them,

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Speaker 2: I think will be very interesting to see something that

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Speaker 2: I want to bring up though, before we hop off,

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Speaker 2: as Warren Sharp just tweeted the best value twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: five NFL draft classes, Atlanta Falcons came in at number one.

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Speaker 1: Let's go.

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Speaker 2: So, I think, how about that and by a pretty

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Speaker 2: significant margin, I'm looking at most valuable based on that.

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Speaker 1: Goes to your point though, they let the draft come

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Speaker 1: to them right right, And we're always saying that about

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Speaker 1: teams like the Eagles and the Steelers and the raven

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Speaker 1: and it's like, hey, look at us, Yeah, who would

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Speaker 1: have thought?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, in terms of like values versus reaches, Atlanta is

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Speaker 2: way on the value side number one.

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Speaker 1: In fact, top two hundred and fifty picks, Falcons had

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Speaker 1: five of them. That means a lot of value. Nailed

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Speaker 1: nailed all their their picks.

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Speaker 2: And it's what they to your earlier point and what

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Speaker 2: you wrote about earlier this week, it's what they had

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Speaker 2: to do.

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Speaker 1: Yep. So that's a great place I think to wrap

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Speaker 1: up this podcast, wrapping up the twenty twenty five NFL

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Speaker 1: Draft for the Atlanta Falcons. So thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for joining me for each of these. Tory, thank you

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Speaker 1: to Jared, our producer for all of these. He's been

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Speaker 1: pulling some late nighters, early mornings to make sure that

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Speaker 1: we get that out there. But I am Will McFadden

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Speaker 1: for Tory mclaney. Thank you guys for following along all

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Speaker 1: draft weekends. Stay tuned for some more excellent coverage, But

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Speaker 1: until then, take care

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Speaker 3: And we're going to go get some sleep.