1 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 2: COWS. 4 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: This is Girls Talk Boys Talk, presented by invisil Line, 5 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:20,760 Speaker 1: trusted by over five hundred NFL players for their winning smiles, 6 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: and broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World Headquarters at the Star. 7 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: Now your host, Nicole Hutchison, Wake. 8 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 3: Up, Cowboys Nation, Welcome in the Girls Talk Boys Talk, 9 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 3: presented by invisil Line in the s WBC studio. I'm 10 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 3: no Cole hutcheson alongside Brianna Aldridge, Christy Scales, Aisha Morrison. 11 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 4: Ladies, what's up? Good morning? 12 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 5: I think everybody's I'll do it. I got to yell 13 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 5: at them as much because. 14 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 2: No, it's still gonna o'clock. 15 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 6: That was so much fun this weekend. Oh, all those 16 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 6: games outstanding, even the Sunday night game, which was low 17 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 6: scoring and not great for those of us who love 18 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 6: Justin Herbert, But even that, what a great, you know, 19 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 6: hard hitting game, but man outstanding and the only thing 20 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 6: more fun. 21 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 4: I know, Brie, you and I enjoy Monday. 22 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 6: Morning listening uh locally on the fan here in Dallas 23 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 6: when they play the call ins to Philly. 24 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 4: After Philly Boston. It was particularly delicious. 25 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 5: Literally, they're undefeated. 26 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 7: Every time I will for entertainment purposes, I will go 27 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:31,919 Speaker 7: listen to Philly radio when they have a bad loss, 28 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 7: and it is it is incredibly entertaining. 29 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 5: You honestly ain't gotta go to fighting and go. 30 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 4: Right to Twitter. It's like it's MTV back in the day. 31 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 5: Though it's too much the meet us and cant coon stuff, 32 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 5: like I can't with these people. 33 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 7: But yeah, today's said how Joys Nicole is part of 34 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 7: the reason why I have the energy I. 35 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 4: Have today is because thank you, Philly, Yes appreciation. See, 36 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 4: we'll see it down next year. 37 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 6: To see that was that was tough though to root 38 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 6: for San Francisco. 39 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 4: I mean, that's like both of two weeks Nemesis. 40 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's like it's playoffs, so it can't end in 41 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 6: a scoreless tie, so I didn't get my true wish. 42 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:12,799 Speaker 4: Somebody had to win. 43 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 6: But wow, and the way it ended too, And and 44 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 6: of course my first thought was after Eric Kendricks breaks 45 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 6: it up, it's like we couldn't use him this year. 46 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 4: He was he was free till the end of November Thanksgiving. 47 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 7: And it's interesting too because when he was here. Was 48 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 7: he dealing with something. 49 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 6: Well in the off season he had I think shoulder 50 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 6: surgery because one thing he was playing hurt when he 51 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 6: played here. 52 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 7: And that makes sense because I remember when the option 53 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 7: came up to re sign him, I was concerned because 54 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 7: he struggled and coverage and has some issues, and finding 55 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 7: out that he was kind of banged up makes more sense. 56 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 7: I definitely think that he's somebody that Dolly should have kept. 57 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:56,239 Speaker 7: I mean, but also to that San francistem, I mean, yeah, yeah, 58 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 7: their system. 59 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 5: So deep in that depth chart and some of those positions, 60 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 5: it was just crazy what they're able to do with 61 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 5: kind of nothing. 62 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 4: Which is why I'm on six and seven linebackers, which 63 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 4: is why I'm okay with them. Like out Philly aside, 64 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 4: you just talked about the playoffs. 65 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 7: This is what like how cool is when you watch 66 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 7: the playoff games, you can see this is the best 67 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 7: of the best. 68 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 5: Does that make sense? 69 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 7: You can feel the upticking talent and performance and all 70 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:24,959 Speaker 7: that stuff. So that's one of my favorite parts of 71 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 7: the postseason. It's just getting to see like, oh okay, and. 72 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 4: Then to make you sit there and look think about 73 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 4: your team. 74 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 8: You be like they're not ready and just just looking 75 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 8: at everybody who's still alive right now going into the 76 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 8: divisional round, it's just like anything can happen right now. 77 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 5: I love that there's nobody that I'm like, Like, we 78 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 5: were trying to pick who we thought was going to 79 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 5: make it to the super Bowl, and we were having 80 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 5: a tough time because I think originally I had the 81 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 5: Packers and Ravens. Well that didn't last, so now I 82 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 5: had to I had to jump off someone else's bad 83 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 5: wagon for my new for my new picks. But like, 84 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 5: literally there's no team that I'm like, yup, they got 85 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 5: it because any any any given day, something different can happen. 86 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 5: And besides the third game last night, I was I 87 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 5: was locked in all the way. 88 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 7: It's exciting though, I feel like we love I love 89 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 7: when there's like dominant teams, like everyone likes a dynasty 90 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 7: and things like that, but it's oil. 91 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 4: But this is now the league. 92 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 7: Is turning into We're seeing multiple teams that have struggled 93 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 7: and rebuilt. You think about the Rams who gave around 94 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 7: all their gave away all their first round. 95 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 4: Picks to go win that Super Bowl. 96 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 7: A lot of people thought it was gonna take them 97 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 7: a long time to get to being competitive again. Sean mcvasis, 98 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 7: we can coach over here. They get that team ready. 99 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 7: You look at the Patriots who've been through coaching changes 100 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 7: and all that stuff, and now they're back to a 101 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 7: place to where you're looking at them as one of 102 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 7: the more respectable teams in the NFL. 103 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 4: You talk about San fran I. 104 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 7: The reason why I was rooting for San fran is 105 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 7: because of what they were able to do. 106 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 4: Like Bree just talked about, they are. 107 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 7: On second third, you know, string players. 108 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:06,359 Speaker 4: You're seeing good coaching too. That's that's what makes me excited. 109 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 7: And I'm sure we're gonna talk about that with the 110 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 7: presser that we just absolutely one team we didn't talk 111 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 7: about is the Bears either. 112 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 4: Oh yes, yeah, that's another team in Francisco. 113 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 5: That game, Williams, how about the off balance. 114 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 3: That it was just it was ridiculous coming back from 115 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 3: twenty one to three. 116 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's another team. 117 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 5: It's another team. 118 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 7: It's another team that's rebuilding. Yeah, and it's showing you 119 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 7: it's possible. 120 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 5: I feel like the common denominator of all these teams 121 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 5: that were watching and even people who snuck into the 122 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 5: wild Wildcard round. The defense. Everybody has defense that, even 123 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 5: if it's not dominating, it's what the word will been 124 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 5: thrown around, serviceable and in the big moments, even though 125 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 5: it hasn't been perfect, they show up in big moments. 126 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 5: They lean on something that they know they can execute. 127 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 5: And that's just something Dallas didn't have all season. I 128 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 5: think that's the hardest part because Dallas. When you looking 129 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 5: at who has first round buys, the Seahawks, the Broncos, 130 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 5: Dallas's offense is outstanding compared to what we're seeing. Those 131 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 5: are defensive teams that are getting first round bys. Like, 132 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 5: to me, that's the sickening part. 133 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 6: And you watch the games and they're able to sustain 134 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 6: pressure on the quarterback. You know, they may not be 135 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 6: landing and getting sacks once a quarter, but it's enough 136 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 6: to affect the quarterback. And so you saw that with 137 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 6: some of the key turnovers late in some of these games. 138 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, this is playoff football of the house. 139 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 4: I'm gonna pop. 140 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 7: I need. 141 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 4: She can't help herself. 142 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 5: I'm all right real fast. 143 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 3: Before we forget, I do want to make sure we 144 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 3: shine a light on the All Pro selections. 145 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:48,679 Speaker 5: Shout out to that list. 146 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 2: Christy I want you want to go ahead and take 147 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 2: it away. 148 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, Well, three of the Cowboys were named second team 149 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 6: All Pro. So congratulations to George Pickens. It's his first 150 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 6: time to be named to an All Pro team, and 151 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 6: he actually got the nod this year over Cde Lamb 152 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 6: so CD was first team All Pro last year but 153 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 6: didn't make the All Pro team this year. Of course, 154 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 6: he missed a few games and his stats weren't what 155 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 6: they were last year. But congratulations to George Pickens and 156 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 6: the players receivers who were first team in front of George, 157 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 6: Puka Nakua, Jackson Smith and Jigba and Jamar Chase, so 158 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 6: certainly in great company there. Congratulations to Brandon Aubrey All 159 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 6: Pro again. Every year he's been All Pro either first 160 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 6: or second team, so second team this year behind will 161 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 6: Rykert of Minnesota who had just such an outstanding season. 162 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 6: How can Dicker the kicker not be an All Pro? 163 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 6: Is that amazing? We're in an era, a golden era 164 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 6: of kickers. Really, I mean there's some outse standing great kickers. 165 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 6: And then Cavante Turpin second team All Pro and Ray 166 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 6: Davis of Buffalo was first Team. So three Cowboys second 167 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 6: Team All Pro, no first teams this year, but represented 168 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 6: in special teams and. 169 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 2: On Offensey Davis. I covered him in Kentucky. 170 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 5: So love this good kid. 171 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 4: Any of these surpris so awesome. 172 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 5: He did fumbled the ball last night, though, Yeah, I'm 173 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 5: a play I need you. I was mad at him. 174 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 5: I loved me some Ray Davis. His story is, his 175 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 5: background story is amazing. 176 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 6: But are we surprised by any of the selections Turping? Yeah, 177 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 6: I was waiting for k Yeah, honestly, I thought there 178 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 6: were a lot of yards left on the field this year. 179 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:34,199 Speaker 5: Talk about it. 180 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 7: I was, I'm trying not to skip to. 181 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 6: The and and the kid in Denver, I thought he 182 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 6: would get second team so the returner. 183 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:46,599 Speaker 4: Yeah, they be on the money too. Though, Yeah, it 184 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 4: surprised me as well. 185 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 7: I feel like special teams is a unit that you know, 186 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 7: we've talked about this season, and I knew that with 187 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 7: the loss of Bones it was going to uh Bones fossil, 188 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 7: that the efficiency probably was gonna take a drop because 189 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 7: this is one of the best special team which is 190 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 7: in the league. Not only is he one of the 191 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 7: best special team coaches in the league, he is he 192 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 7: had a huge hand in scouting some of your best 193 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 7: special teams players also too, if I'm not mistaken, he 194 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 7: was a part of the conversations and creating some of 195 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,319 Speaker 7: the rule changes and how things were going. So when 196 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 7: you have that input, when you have a guy that 197 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 7: specializes in it, I expected for the Cowboys to take 198 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 7: a drop, but I felt like it really affected you 199 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 7: this year. And we heard in the presser even Shoddy 200 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,719 Speaker 7: even mentioned start and field position things like that, so 201 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 7: they are aware that the Special Teams unit did not 202 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 7: perform to the level that it needed to this year. 203 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 7: That's why I was very surprised about the Turpin selection 204 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 7: as well. 205 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 3: You guys feel like with the drop in the way 206 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 3: the Special Teams unit has performed, is that on the 207 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 3: unit or is that on the way that maybe a 208 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:54,199 Speaker 3: Nick Sorenson is kind of coaching? Because I feel like 209 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:57,839 Speaker 3: we can all agree is that John Fossil was really 210 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 3: good at teaching the technique fundamentals of the special teams? 211 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 9: Right? 212 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 3: Do y'all feel like that could there's maybe like a 213 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 3: miscommunication there on. 214 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 6: I guess I think there's a newness factor, right. I 215 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 6: don't know if miscommunication is necessarily the way to describe it. 216 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 6: I think I think there's just a natural change, right 217 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 6: and uh, and that can be in the way that 218 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:26,559 Speaker 6: you teach it. But at the same time, who was 219 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 6: the best special teams player this year other than your specialists, right, 220 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 6: Aubrey and Anger and sig And that's Brevin Space by far. 221 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 4: That's by a million miles, by. 222 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 6: A million miles, Brevin Spanford. And he hadn't played before 223 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 6: so that position. You know, he wasn't a core special 224 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 6: teams guy, but he sure became one this year. And 225 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 6: so you know, you have to give credit where credit's 226 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 6: due in developing a guy like that. 227 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 4: We should also. 228 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 6: Mention Carlos Polk, who is the assistant special teams coach, 229 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 6: and he's been with Cowboys before, so it's not his 230 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 6: first swim this year coaching Cowboys special teams. 231 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 4: But yeah, I just it was middling to lower level 232 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 4: this year, you know. 233 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 6: And when you have a defense that struggled as much 234 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 6: as the Cowboys did this year, you were going to 235 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:20,679 Speaker 6: have to win two out of three phases to have 236 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 6: a chance to win the game. They won most of 237 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 6: the time on offense, but they needed to win on 238 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 6: special teams and most of the time they didn't or 239 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 6: it was level, and you know, I think it really 240 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:36,119 Speaker 6: hurt him. And we were joking on Cowboys radio broadcasts 241 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 6: where the Cowboys would be, you know, they'd get the 242 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:40,839 Speaker 6: ball at their own eight yard line and Brad and 243 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 6: Babe would say, ah, Dak's got him right where he 244 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 6: wants them, because you know, they had a lot of 245 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 6: long sustained drags and stuff, but there were so many 246 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 6: times where they were backed up. 247 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 7: Yeah, starting from there. 248 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 6: Yeah. 249 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 3: Ten. 250 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:56,199 Speaker 7: And what the special teams thing is, well, to your point, Nicole, 251 00:11:56,280 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 7: to answer your question, I do think roster changes, injuries, 252 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 7: those things had a lot to. 253 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:02,319 Speaker 10: Do with it. 254 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 7: Because you take a guy like Markue's Bell, who typically 255 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 7: is you know, doing a lot on special teams, he's 256 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 7: having to play some safety snaps. 257 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 4: I feel like also to the injuries and guys having. 258 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 7: To play elsewhere because of injuries on defense might have 259 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 7: taken away from some of the efficiency as well. 260 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 6: And sometimes it's good news when you have a Ryan 261 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 6: Flinoy who's your gunner, but now he's doing so well 262 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 6: on offense that you're taking him off gunner because he's 263 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 6: your third wide receiver now. 264 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:34,079 Speaker 4: So it's not always injury. But here's the thing, look 265 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:34,839 Speaker 4: around the league. 266 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 6: Everybody deals with that, every team with injuries and guys 267 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:42,959 Speaker 6: getting called up and playing more defense and offense. 268 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 4: So you know, it's not an excuse. It can't be 269 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 4: an excuse. Is it a reason? Yeah, but you can't 270 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 4: use it. It's an excuse because everybody deals with that. 271 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 5: Sects and if Nick being here, Nick Ranson being here, 272 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:57,319 Speaker 5: after what this unit has done overall, I think a 273 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,199 Speaker 5: lot of times you just look at the stats and 274 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 5: you're like, Okay, you point the finger at the main 275 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 5: guy in charge, and so far it sounds like his 276 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,439 Speaker 5: job isn't in jeopardy, like there hasn't been much and 277 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 5: you kind of hate that they were asked in the 278 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,839 Speaker 5: press conference yet. And I do want to say, like 279 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 5: when you're looking at because Nicole had brought up bones 280 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 5: in Tennessee and when you're talking about penalties, Schottenheimer brought 281 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 5: that up about Dallas being the second most penalized special 282 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 5: teams unit while Tennessee was ahead of them. So it's 283 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 5: just like it's I think special teams is harder when 284 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:33,599 Speaker 5: you're talking about offense and defense because it's easier to 285 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 5: point the finger on the question on what it is, 286 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:39,959 Speaker 5: so you can't necessarily do that, because if we're doing that, 287 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 5: then you got to look at who we just said 288 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 5: was one of the best in the business and they're 289 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:45,839 Speaker 5: having issues on that side as well. 290 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a very good point. 291 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 3: Well, you might not be able to point the finger 292 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,079 Speaker 3: at special teams, but you can point the finger of 293 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 3: possibility of. 294 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 2: You know, Turpin's lack of production at the wide receiver role. 295 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 3: I want to get to that later in the show, 296 00:13:57,880 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 3: but up next we are going to be breaking down 297 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 3: the season ending press conference. 298 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 2: I want to talk big takeaways and more. 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Download 346 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 5: the app now to join. 347 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 3: Welcome back in a Girlstar Voice Talk presented by and 348 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 3: Visiline in the SWBC studio Nicole Hutchison, Breonna Aldridge, Christie Scales, 349 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 3: Aisham Morrison and as promised, we are going to be 350 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 3: breaking down this season ending press conference with Jerry Jones, 351 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 3: Stephen Jones, and head. 352 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 2: Coach Brian Schottenheimer. 353 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 3: And there was a lot of things to of course 354 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:59,359 Speaker 3: unpack there, but I want to start with the priorities 355 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 3: this off season for Dallas. You know, Jerry, Steve and 356 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 3: all of them agreeing that you know it is to 357 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 3: take care of Pickens, Javonte Williams, geneveon Clowney, Where do 358 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 3: you feel is the most urgent and why, ladies, which 359 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 3: do you feel is the most urgent? 360 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 2: That's better? 361 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 6: Okay, I'll start off. I'll say Pickens number one, because 362 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,439 Speaker 6: it's the number one. It's going to be the highest 363 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 6: monetary commitment. 364 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 11: Right. 365 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 6: Also, and we spoke about this a little bit last week. 366 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 6: Clayton Adams, the offensive coordinator, and his final press conference 367 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 6: of the year, was asked about in the off season 368 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 6: what he's going to focus on, and he said that 369 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 6: he would focus on having two number one wide receivers, 370 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 6: two elite guys and how that affects everything, even the 371 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 6: run game, and how you can deploy them and things 372 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 6: like that. So, and then the Gavonte Williams, you want 373 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 6: to get him and Clowney done, because once you get 374 00:17:56,520 --> 00:18:00,200 Speaker 6: all that monetarily figured out, you know how much you 375 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 6: have in free agency to spend, right, And so I 376 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 6: think Jerry indicated that, you know, they're not going to 377 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 6: be bottom feeders. 378 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 4: Necessarily this years. 379 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 6: They've been most years in free agency kind of nibbling 380 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 6: and hoping to hit on some you know, older veterans 381 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 6: and things like that, or some real inexpensive guys. So 382 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 6: I think that you've got to get those players locked 383 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 6: up number one, so that you have them so that 384 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 6: the coaches know what to plan for in the off season, 385 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 6: but also how much money you have to allocate elsewhere. 386 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, said Davante. Is they're trying to get him to 387 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 2: a multi year Yeah. 388 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 6: So yeah, and that's great because you know, is he 389 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 6: going to be a guy that gets ten million or 390 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 6: more average, I don't know, eight or nine million. 391 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 4: Whatever it is. 392 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 6: You sign him to a multi year deal, you can 393 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 6: kind of spread that out and you can have a 394 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:55,640 Speaker 6: lesser cap impact this year, and that would help. 395 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 4: The Other thing that. 396 00:18:56,520 --> 00:19:00,400 Speaker 6: Really stood out was Jerry in his mind a log 397 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 6: to start even before the Q and A talking about 398 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 6: the Micah trade and how we will we wouldn't be 399 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:12,719 Speaker 6: able to have George Pickens or Javonte. You know, if 400 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 6: we had made that monetary commitment to and I'm paraphrasing 401 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 6: to Micah, that you wouldn't have the ability to bring 402 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 6: back some of these guys and to be in the 403 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 6: market for some high, higher price free which. 404 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 5: My follow up, my favorite follow up was after that him. 405 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 5: You know, Jerry's explaining how big and how much they 406 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 5: can do because they traded mic of Parsons and he 407 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 5: brought up George Pickens being the first name. And I 408 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 5: think it's funny the follow up as well, have have you? 409 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 5: Have you started those conversations? Didn't sound like it? And 410 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 5: then is it a fail if you don't get them 411 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 5: because you just kind of bragged about and that was 412 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 5: that was kind of like fload under. So you're hoping 413 00:19:56,480 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 5: these conversations if they haven't already started in motion because 414 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 5: George Pickens, to me, is the difference between last year's 415 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 5: offense and this year's offense, excluding the fact that Dak 416 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 5: wasn't healthy, obvious like that is when I'm talking about 417 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 5: with you guys every week about the foundation. He is 418 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 5: what I'm talking about moving forward. I love what Javonte 419 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 5: William brings. I think you saw towards the end of 420 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 5: the season you need to have a second running back 421 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 5: because we talked about it from the beginning. Okay, his 422 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 5: body's gonna start to get wear and tear. He's a 423 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 5: physical back and he's not afraid to get hit. He's 424 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:33,439 Speaker 5: a big part of your past protection. I think that's 425 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:36,360 Speaker 5: why you want him to stay here because you could 426 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 5: argue there are other running backs who can do similar 427 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 5: things of what Javonte brings, and when you're talking about 428 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 5: the coaching you have, that's someone who can make them 429 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 5: better past protectors in that aspect as well. Right, But 430 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 5: I think when you're talking about the overall picture of 431 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 5: what the running backs look like, Javonte Williams, I don't 432 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 5: know if I'm signing him making him ten eleven million 433 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 5: a year type of guy. I don't think that's typically 434 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 5: what the Cowboys have done in the past. So that's 435 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,160 Speaker 5: why not that he's I don't want to say he's disposable. 436 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 5: I think it's great if you can figure out, but 437 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 5: that's not my priority because I think that's one of 438 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 5: the Well, that's something that you can that's not the foundation. 439 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 5: That's just that's that's luxury to me. 440 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 4: But it's so weird, is it? 441 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 6: Not? Like it is? 442 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 7: But it's no. I think that your points are your 443 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 7: points are valid. I feel like I do think I 444 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 7: agree with you on if they can find a number. 445 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:37,159 Speaker 7: I do agree that number ten up and near it 446 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 7: sounds like a lot. Now, maybe you can get him 447 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 7: in seven and try to figure out how you can 448 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 7: work the insent. 449 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 5: Bonuses and things like that. 450 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 4: But that's what stood out to. 451 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 7: Me, Ladies, to your point about Jerry, I'm gonna try 452 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 7: to say this in the right way. I felt like 453 00:21:52,400 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 7: him hammering home the Micah thing was explanation. It was awesome, 454 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 7: so a little like I'm not gonna say boastful, but 455 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 7: it was definitely like, y'all asking me all these questions. 456 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 4: About what we're gonna do. 457 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 7: The only reason why we can do any of that 458 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:13,919 Speaker 7: is because I made this trade. 459 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 4: And I think that that was to me. 460 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 7: I think he was verbalizing justifying the trade to us. Sure, 461 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:23,919 Speaker 7: and he's gonna keep hammering at home because a lot 462 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 7: of people are questioning it. And he also he also 463 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 7: started off saying, Hey, we're gonna talk about Michael Parsons. 464 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 7: Don't play with me. Let's talk about it in the 465 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 7: way that it needs to be talked about it. He said, 466 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 7: I wanted he talked about boundaries. 467 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 4: He does not want to. He want He. 468 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 7: Feels like they feel very strong about this trade and 469 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 7: they feel like they did the right thing, and I 470 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 7: feel like listening to them too, hammering home, we couldn't 471 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 7: have signed. We couldn't have signed Pickings if this didn't happen. 472 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 7: We couldn't have signed obviously, Quinn Williams. We're gonna see 473 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 7: the future, he was saying, like, we're gonna see a 474 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 7: lot of the benefits of that trade later. We've only 475 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 7: got to see a little bit of it on the 476 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 7: field now. But feel and I think that's great. But 477 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 7: the other side of it was Ao, what I'm hearing is, 478 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 7: you know you got money. You know that you have 479 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:17,159 Speaker 7: the resources. So whereas they're explaining like he's explaining it 480 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 7: and the explanation is valid, it's also telling me as 481 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:24,719 Speaker 7: a media person and telling fans, you know you got 482 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 7: some kids ash and so if you don't spend it, 483 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 7: it stuff go wrong. I think people will be a 484 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 7: little bit more even harder on them about it because 485 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 7: you are saying to us one of the reasons why 486 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 7: you even made the trade is to benefit you in 487 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 7: the future. So if you're not aggressive, if you don't 488 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 7: attack free agency the way that you need to, if 489 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,360 Speaker 7: you don't, if you don't do these things, I think 490 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,159 Speaker 7: it's gonna come back on your tenfold because you're hanging 491 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 7: your hat on the fact that we made this trade 492 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 7: to benefit us in the future, and we wouldn't get 493 00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 7: some of these guys, We wouldn't be able to even 494 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 7: touch some of the guys that we have on here 495 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 7: to build this team if we had done this, So 496 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 7: it's like a double edged sword. I felt like with 497 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 7: some of the way that he framed things like, Okay, yeah, 498 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 7: we hear you, but you better do something with it 499 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 7: because if you don't, it's gonna be a lot of 500 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 7: people wondering what you're doing with your pocketbook. 501 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:22,159 Speaker 5: The criticism and if you guys feel different, let me know. 502 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 5: But the criticism where I feel is it's how in 503 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 5: the timing of the trade that happened that was hard 504 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 5: to justify because when it happened, we, when I say we, 505 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 5: Cowboys Nation was sold on the fact that they were 506 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 5: still felt like this was a team that could win, 507 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 5: right now with that trade that was without a Quinn 508 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 5: Williams on this team. Logan Wilson didn't pan out to 509 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:47,120 Speaker 5: what they thought. 510 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 4: But that was without later, Yeah, that was too much. 511 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:50,360 Speaker 4: It was so late. 512 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 5: So I'm saying is they had everyone believing that Kenny 513 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 5: Clark and OSA was going to make the difference and 514 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 5: keep this thing afloat, and we saw very quickly that 515 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:03,120 Speaker 5: that was not the case. 516 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 4: We did this to stop the run, and I think 517 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:06,919 Speaker 4: that's the criticism. 518 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 5: And now like shout out to him for going out 519 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 5: there and being aggressive, but he kind of left himself 520 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 5: no other choice. But this is where I also I 521 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 5: remember last year and I have to go back and 522 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,360 Speaker 5: look to make sure I wouldn't trip him last year. 523 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 2: I feel like when these questions were. 524 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 3: Asked about a OSA, about other guys on the roster, 525 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 3: they didn't necessarily straight out come out here and say 526 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 3: we're going to make these guys a priority, right, And 527 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 3: they waited till March to finally get those deals done. 528 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 5: But now it's what is. 529 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 3: January twelfth for them to already be saying, hey, these 530 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,439 Speaker 3: guys are going to be a priority. George Pickens, We're 531 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 3: trying to make sure that happens. Javonte Williams. He is 532 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 3: on the top of our list. Jade Jon Clowney. I 533 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 3: feel like this they see the urgency of trying to 534 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 3: make sure all of these guys are resigned. 535 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 5: That's not a sense of that I'm feeling. 536 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 4: I got a sense of urgency. 537 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 7: I also got a sense of understanding from this presser 538 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 7: because I think so much of like especially them sticking 539 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 7: with Shoddy, which ended up working out. But I feel 540 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 7: like so much of this offseason come into this year, 541 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 7: the word continuity comes up a craptone when it comes 542 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 7: to the coaching staff, and we've hammered home on Dallas 543 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 7: not having steady coaches and a conglomerate of guys stay 544 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 7: together for a you know, extended period of time, especially 545 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 7: on the defensive side. What I took from it is 546 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 7: that it felt like Jerry and those guys really understand 547 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 7: if you got good coaches, they gonna go. You need 548 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 7: to be you need to be so sure of yourself 549 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,640 Speaker 7: and what you have as far as vision and communication 550 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 7: that when that happens, you're not in a place to 551 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 7: where you're trying to figure out your identity through whoever's 552 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,640 Speaker 7: coming in here, your identity is established, so as you're 553 00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 7: seeking out coaches, you are prepared for or when your 554 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 7: coaches that are good leave. 555 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 4: He was I heard him talking about, like that's. 556 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 7: The normal now. 557 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 4: It's it is. 558 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,120 Speaker 7: We're seeing turnover and coaches, Like think about this, all 559 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,120 Speaker 7: the vacancies right now that are not even filled. We're 560 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 7: seeing turnover and coaches. These coaches, and good for them. 561 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 7: When they see opportunity, they're jumping at it. 562 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 5: That's what we do in this business. 563 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 4: And so I'm like, Okay, I get it. 564 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 7: But I just felt like the continuity thing has become 565 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 7: to this point has been almost like a crutch or 566 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,640 Speaker 7: not like an excuse almost as to Okay, well that's 567 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 7: why we're bringing and that's why we're just elevating this guy. 568 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 4: No, this is the league now, and. 569 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,640 Speaker 7: You might have to get you know, a little creative 570 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 7: and go out and get college coaches. You might have to. 571 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 4: You might bring in a guy that's never coached before, 572 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 4: but you're his first shot. 573 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 7: Like that's the norm now, So you can't be looking 574 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 7: for a ready made person all the time. So for me, 575 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 7: I think that was encouraging to me that it seems 576 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:59,199 Speaker 7: like they get they can't use the continuity thing and okay, 577 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 7: well and all this stuff as like a reason not 578 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 7: to be aggressive in the coaching search anymore. 579 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 4: It's going to happen. 580 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, his exact words were, who really has the continuity? 581 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 4: I love that because it's the truth. 582 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 3: Is it the players who you bring in the off season, 583 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 3: free agency whatever, or is it the coach who comes 584 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,879 Speaker 3: in with his you know, of course his scheme or 585 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 3: has been here for years to come, but they do 586 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 3: have to be able to adapt. 587 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,120 Speaker 2: And I feel like that's where Shoddy. 588 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,400 Speaker 3: Was kind of like hinting towards the scheme fit as well, 589 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 3: like don't come in here and just expect the guys 590 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 3: to be able to or trying to force guys to 591 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 3: fit into a scheme. 592 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 2: You got to be able to figure out a scheme that. 593 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 4: Works with your guys. 594 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 2: And that's what I feel like Dallas has really been missing. 595 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 6: Well, think about the previous summer when Mike Zimmer comes 596 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 6: in and you need some big bodies, you need some 597 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 6: defensive tackles, and let's just say the cupboard was bare, 598 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,719 Speaker 6: and so during training camp, you know, you get through 599 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 6: the off season and Zimmer sees that, oh my gosh, 600 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 6: we need some and these were the people that were 601 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 6: brought in, involved Joseph Carl Laws and Jordan Philips. 602 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 4: Remember when they were bringing in guys went. 603 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 6: To camp started, they were out and office and stuff 604 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 6: and so, and that's why we were talking about this 605 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 6: the last couple of weeks is you don't want to 606 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 6: rush this process of hiring a new defensive coordinator so 607 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 6: much that you're missing out on some good candidates that 608 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 6: may not be the most obvious that the media is 609 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 6: talking about. You don't want to rush it. You want 610 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 6: to make sure you get it right. But at the 611 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 6: same time, if you're not scouting and drafting and bringing 612 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 6: in free agency the guys, if you're waiting until training 613 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 6: camp like we were in twenty twenty four defensive tactic, 614 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 6: it's just not going to work, you know. And so 615 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 6: but Nicole, I love what you said about, you know, 616 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 6: having the structure in place. That's why I think in Baltimore, 617 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 6: John Harball leaving getting fired is seismic because it's like 618 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 6: Tomlin but Harball just that identity and the emphasis on 619 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 6: the defense and things like that. I mean, that's going 620 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 6: to shake up that division for a long time because 621 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 6: that's the one thing you could always count on with 622 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 6: Baltimore and then you you know, you're getting frustrated with 623 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 6: lack of playoff success and wash your hands and now 624 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 6: you're going a different direction. 625 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 4: I mean, wow, that that I'm still I'm still surprised. 626 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, that sugar that made it when it was like 627 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 5: Ibra Flus was let go and there was a story 628 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 5: and then that that was under the rug because that 629 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 5: came out right after. But the thing that stood out 630 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 5: to me in reference to the candidates and what they're 631 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 5: looking for in that fresh look, if you will, everything 632 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 5: that Schotenheimer said is making it hard for me to 633 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 5: buy into the fact that he had the amount of 634 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 5: input in hiring Maddie refused to talk about it because 635 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 5: I was like, I was like, everything he just said 636 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 5: he's looking for and you know, understanding what Connor O'Reilly 637 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 5: has done for this team and the freshness of a 638 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 5: Clayton Adams and like you said, bringing people in who 639 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 5: have not maybe as much experience and in the Cowboys 640 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 5: trending in DC's they're typically guys who have the experience 641 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 5: and who are veterans and have been who they. 642 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 4: Know and familiarity with the Jones family. 643 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 5: All that kind of stuff, and it just from listening 644 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 5: just from Shottenheimer, and you know, he's never going to 645 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 5: really throw anyone of the ust. We saw that a 646 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 5: He's stuck by Matt Eberflus like I'm gonna stick beside him, 647 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 5: and it was getting real ugly and he could have 648 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 5: said it certain things and he never did. And that's 649 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 5: just the type of guy he is. But all the 650 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 5: qualities that he listed, I'm like, there is no way 651 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 5: that this man was sitting there and like, hey, Matt Iberflus, like, no, 652 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 5: what I think happened and how I envision it is 653 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 5: this was a guy again Shotthheimer. I think we all 654 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 5: can agree deserves to be where he's at right and 655 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 5: he's proven that. But this again, this was not a 656 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 5: guy who had who else was trying to hire Brian 657 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 5: Schottenheimer as a head coach, So I think it was 658 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 5: kind of giving in to the front office what they 659 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 5: wanted to get this opportunity and feeling like, Okay, well 660 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 5: I got to make this work and it obviously didn't work. 661 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 5: So I hope what they're saying now and him having 662 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 5: that input with who he brings in as DC is 663 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 5: actually realistic because I think that's going to make or 664 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 5: break what this team is able to do. Because you 665 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 5: can ask someone to pay a masterpiece and you choose 666 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 5: all the colors. That doesn't work. 667 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 4: That's a great way to put it. 668 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 5: Come on, girl, the bars heavy with that. 669 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 3: Would y'all like someone who has experience or would y'all 670 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 3: like for the Cowboys to give somebody a chance that 671 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 3: maybe this is their first opportunity to get a defensive 672 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 3: coordinator position? 673 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 2: What would y'all like? 674 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 7: Dang, I want somebody that is a fresh mind that 675 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 7: is going to fit with what the team is now. 676 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 7: And also to you know, one thing that we heard 677 00:32:55,920 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 7: repeated through this press conference was flexibility. Yep, a teacher 678 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 7: in a communicator. Hey, when you're talking to these young guys, 679 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 7: I mean, don't get it twisted. I think that the 680 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 7: Quentin and quinnin rather and Clark trades were huge because 681 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 7: you are getting guys in here who are leaders in 682 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 7: that sense, and they're good foundational leaders, but they need 683 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 7: a coach that communicates and teaches and breaks down the 684 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 7: game and it kind of has that open door policy, 685 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 7: I want to say, and I think that's what we 686 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 7: were hearing from this presser. So for me, I just 687 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 7: want the guys whoever comes in, whatever he does to 688 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 7: fit what the NFL is relevant in the NFL is 689 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 7: something that can carry over, and also that his temperament 690 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 7: fits what the team is either trying to become or 691 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 7: what it is. Because I feel like, and I could 692 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 7: be wrong, I feel like there was a big difference 693 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 7: in temperament on the defensive side of the ball and 694 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 7: the offensive side of the ball, and that type of 695 00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 7: imbalanced I don't think can exist in that way because 696 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 7: I'm sure I can't explain it, but I feel like 697 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 7: the offense is in the defense is in over looking 698 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 7: at the offense having all this fun and all this 699 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 7: personable stuff, and then you have and again it's no 700 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 7: not to ebra Flus, his temperament is just a little 701 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 7: bit more, you know, chill, and that he's just a 702 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 7: little bit more reserved. 703 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 4: Absolutely nothing wrong. They're also not having success, so it's 704 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 4: not fun, so it's not fun. Poorly, Yeah, no, I 705 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 4: mean it is. 706 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:26,440 Speaker 7: I think the. 707 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 4: Biggest thing is the flexibility whoever it is. 708 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 7: I want them to have a multiple versatile scheme that 709 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,959 Speaker 7: can tap into what these other teams are doing. 710 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 4: I mean, you look at the. 711 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 7: Rams, you look at some of these offenses. There's so 712 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 7: much flexibility in these offenses. You need a DC that 713 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 7: can adjust end game. 714 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, but let me ask you this. 715 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 6: So three of the young guys who are getting a 716 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,879 Speaker 6: lot of attention and interviews and stuff. So if it's 717 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 6: Jim Leonard or Deronte Jones or Bonda, right, they haven't 718 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 6: They've called a place at the college level, but not 719 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 6: the NFL level. Y'all cool with them coming in and 720 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 6: being the first time defensive play caller rich Dallas Cowboys. 721 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,400 Speaker 6: I think because they're young and personable and gonna relate 722 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:15,320 Speaker 6: and probably great communicators and maybe great teachers and all that. 723 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:19,760 Speaker 6: But no, I'm really asking y'all cool with someone that's 724 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:21,360 Speaker 6: called at the college. 725 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:22,240 Speaker 4: Level, I'm not at the NFL. 726 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,319 Speaker 7: I'm cool with it at this point because we've seen 727 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 7: the inverse we've seen we are seeing now, don't get 728 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 7: it twisted. 729 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 4: There's some salty dogs in this game. 730 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,919 Speaker 7: When you think about the fan Jio's and those guys, 731 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,880 Speaker 7: those are proven even I'll go as far as the 732 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,880 Speaker 7: forty nine ers. Yes, Salah, there are some guys in 733 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 7: this league, decoordinators that are dogs. That are known and 734 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:45,839 Speaker 7: they're gonna get it done. However, outside of that, all 735 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 7: these other guys are guys that people just gave a chance, 736 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 7: and so it's kind of give and take. You got 737 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 7: to see if they're proven in some senses and see 738 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 7: if it fits. But also too though, I don't have 739 00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 7: a problem with it, because we have seen this team 740 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 7: higher former head coach over and over and over and 741 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:07,279 Speaker 7: over again, and there's clearly a communication disconnect and there's 742 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 7: clearly a flexibility disconnect with some of these guys. 743 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 4: And I so I'm I'm open. I want to open 744 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 4: mind that is going to. 745 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 7: Be relatable, but also to be firm in what they 746 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 7: believe as far as they're scheme. Yeah, I want to 747 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 7: come compare it, sorry, compared to like last year, I 748 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 7: think a little more. What brings comfort is like it's 749 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 7: not a complete wipeout, right, So we're not seeing Shotenheimer 750 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 7: calling plays for the Dallas Cowboys for the time and 751 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,399 Speaker 7: seeing a fresh new mind DC come here and calling 752 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,879 Speaker 7: places for the first time. Of course, it's a little 753 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,320 Speaker 7: weary because you know it's going to naturally come with 754 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,399 Speaker 7: bumps and bruises, But so did this offense and there's 755 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,400 Speaker 7: still things like, okay, well he can improve here when 756 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,760 Speaker 7: you're talking about red zone, when you're talking about time management, 757 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 7: things like that. 758 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 5: But that offense was thing good, right, And so I 759 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,359 Speaker 5: feel like, and it's sad to say, but look, we're 760 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 5: starting like you can't really do much worse. When we 761 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,239 Speaker 5: saw the man on the field, you put him in 762 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 5: the booth. Okay, were about to put him in his. 763 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 4: Car to call the plane. 764 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 7: It was this is what I'm saying, she why are 765 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 7: you like this? 766 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,280 Speaker 5: I'm just I'm an analogy person. 767 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 4: I'm just saying. 768 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 5: But I also want to say, when you look, just 769 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:19,719 Speaker 5: because you grab a guy who's working under someone from 770 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,959 Speaker 5: a defense like the Broncos, or from a defense where 771 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 5: like the Vikings, that doesn't necessarily mean it's going to 772 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:30,719 Speaker 5: copy and paste that defense to us. But it does 773 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,400 Speaker 5: excite me that they were working under someone in Saul 774 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 5: to your point a Shad being able to mix things 775 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,719 Speaker 5: up and be creative, because that's just something that this 776 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:40,440 Speaker 5: team didn't have. 777 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:43,799 Speaker 4: A second break. 778 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,839 Speaker 3: Yes, my brain and everybody in Vision line still more 779 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,759 Speaker 3: to break down. And we said we're gonna talk about turping, 780 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 3: but I'm gonna wait for another week for that, because 781 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,920 Speaker 3: there's a lot to unpack from that press conference. 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Welcome Back. 830 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:29,799 Speaker 3: In a Girls tar Boys Talk presented by and Vicis 831 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:33,840 Speaker 3: Line in the SMBC studio, Nicole Hutcheson, Brionna Alders, Christie Scales, 832 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:35,240 Speaker 3: Aisha Morrison. 833 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:35,480 Speaker 5: Y'all know what Tom? 834 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:35,840 Speaker 10: It is? 835 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:36,520 Speaker 3: What? 836 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:37,600 Speaker 4: What what got? 837 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 5: The people are up? 838 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,320 Speaker 4: I don't know sure he was about to go on 839 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,840 Speaker 4: lunch they all got maybe not. 840 00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 7: I don't know. 841 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,560 Speaker 4: I think it's brunch. It's brunch. I really thinks it 842 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:52,239 Speaker 4: is brunch. Tom what hey? 843 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 5: Oh starring brunch? Don't know? 844 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:56,440 Speaker 4: People who slept it. 845 00:40:59,280 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 7: Hungover? 846 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:03,880 Speaker 5: Pele listen started confuses me, like should I beat breakfast 847 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:05,600 Speaker 5: or do I grab a sad? I don't know. 848 00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 2: It's a lot. 849 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:07,280 Speaker 5: It's a lot on your mind. 850 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:07,840 Speaker 6: You know. 851 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:13,040 Speaker 3: It doesn't confuse me what Jerry said about the secondary Actually, Stephen, Sorry, 852 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,960 Speaker 3: uh said about the secondary that that will be obviously 853 00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 3: an area for fixing. Of course the linebacker position as well, 854 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,400 Speaker 3: But I do want to touch on the secondary because 855 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,600 Speaker 3: even as Steven mentioned, between the injuries and things like 856 00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,719 Speaker 3: that they've got, they need some help on the back end. 857 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:29,759 Speaker 4: Are you sure? 858 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 3: Thoughts on what Stephen Jones and Jerry Jones had to 859 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:35,440 Speaker 3: say about the secondary. 860 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,400 Speaker 5: Well, to me, it's sound like they won't be a. 861 00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:45,120 Speaker 7: Drafting gentleman that uh, I have injuries and the's trying 862 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,040 Speaker 7: to work that. That's something that Dallas has done for 863 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 7: a long time. And don't get it twisted. I understand 864 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,759 Speaker 7: the value aspect of it when it comes to draft 865 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,840 Speaker 7: because I'm telling y'all, scouting is a totally different language. 866 00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:58,640 Speaker 4: They got all these numbers and all this stuff. 867 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:03,319 Speaker 7: It was the right thing to take savon Revel where 868 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,719 Speaker 7: they took him given his evaluation. 869 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:08,960 Speaker 4: They mentioned the fact that you know, he's raw. He 870 00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:09,640 Speaker 4: was kind of raw. 871 00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:11,520 Speaker 7: He had to kind of just bounce in there. But 872 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:15,080 Speaker 7: I really feel like they are realizing the injuries that 873 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:18,239 Speaker 7: they have dealt with in that room. I said it before, 874 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,400 Speaker 7: I saying again, they gotta basically start fresh at this 875 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,920 Speaker 7: position and that also goes back to coaching, because I 876 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:27,960 Speaker 7: think I heard them mention things about you know, we're 877 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,520 Speaker 7: talking about the flexibility, we're talking about the communication that 878 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,560 Speaker 7: secondary didn't know what the heck they were doing. You 879 00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:34,680 Speaker 7: even have the veterans not knowing what the heck they 880 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,279 Speaker 7: were doing for a lot of this time. I feel 881 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 7: a revamp coming on for that secondary, and I mean 882 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:46,560 Speaker 7: I think it's obviously necessary. I mean, these guys struggled 883 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,040 Speaker 7: in every way that is possible. They didn't even get 884 00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,560 Speaker 7: the opportunity to take the ball away. Shody mentioned the 885 00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:55,279 Speaker 7: lack of turnovers. Yeah, I mean so for me, I 886 00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,480 Speaker 7: guess where I'm at is I hope that they are 887 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,920 Speaker 7: still sharing the same sentiment of kind of starting fresh 888 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,280 Speaker 7: because I love dron Bland. He's coming off of another 889 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:10,960 Speaker 7: foot surgery. Like he's coming off another foot surgery. I mean, 890 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,680 Speaker 7: Hooker is a little long under in the tooth Donovan 891 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,000 Speaker 7: Donovan Wilson like it's. 892 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:16,439 Speaker 4: A free agent. 893 00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,839 Speaker 7: It's a free agent. You there are really no guarantees 894 00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,280 Speaker 7: at the corner spot right now. I love guarantees. 895 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,799 Speaker 3: I love the accountability from Jerry with mentioning that they 896 00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:27,719 Speaker 3: didn't realize how detrimental. 897 00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:29,279 Speaker 2: Losing Jordan Lewis. 898 00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:30,680 Speaker 6: Was love. 899 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,000 Speaker 4: Talk about it. I was about to faint when I've 900 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:36,840 Speaker 4: seen it. Yeah, everybody. 901 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:41,400 Speaker 3: I mean, I feel like Colway's nation understood that Jordan 902 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,160 Speaker 3: Lewis was a huge loss and they were expecting, of 903 00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,200 Speaker 3: course Bland to be able to move in and out, 904 00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:50,640 Speaker 3: but he battled with injuries and just the entire cornerback room, 905 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,120 Speaker 3: which I mean, I feel like girls, boys talk talked 906 00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:53,400 Speaker 3: about it. 907 00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:54,240 Speaker 2: Check out the shows. 908 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:58,440 Speaker 3: Injuries have been an issue within that cornerback room for years. 909 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:02,680 Speaker 3: And if draft a Civone Revel, who we knew he 910 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:06,080 Speaker 3: wasn't gonna be ready fully one hundred percent. Trayvon Diggs 911 00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:09,840 Speaker 3: as well, battling injuries has not been fully healthy and 912 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:13,800 Speaker 3: since twenty twenty one, honestly, like I feel like you 913 00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:15,760 Speaker 3: have to be able to draft well at that position 914 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,279 Speaker 3: if or or just bring in some veteran guys that 915 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:19,800 Speaker 3: you know can come in and produce. 916 00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:23,480 Speaker 2: And I feel like that's where the drop off has 917 00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:24,480 Speaker 2: well and really been. 918 00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:27,440 Speaker 6: And they they tried right and cold, because we were 919 00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:29,360 Speaker 6: talking about it in the last couple of weeks. You know, 920 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,719 Speaker 6: you brought in a Kyrie Elam basically to be a 921 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:35,600 Speaker 6: placeholder right until the guys come back from injury or 922 00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,279 Speaker 6: you know, revel because you're right, they knew he wasn't 923 00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,520 Speaker 6: gonna be there for the start of the season, and 924 00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:44,360 Speaker 6: so Elam is your starter of the first month and 925 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:44,880 Speaker 6: a half or. 926 00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,360 Speaker 4: Two months of the season and then you know gets 927 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:47,719 Speaker 4: let go. 928 00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:51,279 Speaker 6: So but that goes back to what we talked about 929 00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:54,839 Speaker 6: in free agency, and the first segment is sometimes when 930 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,040 Speaker 6: you don't have a lot of resources, you got to 931 00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,920 Speaker 6: kind of you know, bottom feed and things like that. 932 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:04,399 Speaker 4: That so, but yeah, that was the whole thing. Though 933 00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:05,399 Speaker 4: it doesn't matter. 934 00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:07,719 Speaker 6: You can get Jim Thorpe himself, or you can bring 935 00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:11,120 Speaker 6: back Yon Sanders at at one hundred percent, but if 936 00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:12,719 Speaker 6: you don't have a pass rush. 937 00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,080 Speaker 4: If you can't rust the pass, they're gonna get cooked. 938 00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:16,200 Speaker 4: So one d P. 939 00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,680 Speaker 5: And when I look at the corners and how you 940 00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:21,800 Speaker 5: read some names about some of the big boys that 941 00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,759 Speaker 5: came in Oxnide, right the experience they bought veterans, I 942 00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,560 Speaker 5: feel like when the corners, the problem I always had 943 00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:32,920 Speaker 5: with Kyer was he wasn't he was a veteran, I 944 00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,919 Speaker 5: guess for the roster, but he wasn't proven. He didn't 945 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,200 Speaker 5: do anything in Buffalo that you covered him there. I 946 00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,400 Speaker 5: saw it, you know, I saw the same thing. It 947 00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:46,600 Speaker 5: was this extraordinary camp. It was some takeaways and then 948 00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,600 Speaker 5: he got cooked. I mean, and that's why they felt 949 00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:53,040 Speaker 5: like maybe another system he'd be better. But like speaking 950 00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,120 Speaker 5: of Buffalo, for those of you guys who watched last. 951 00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,000 Speaker 4: Night, they got some old dbs. 952 00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:01,640 Speaker 5: Trey White made the game winning stuff. And I've seen 953 00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:05,120 Speaker 5: him go through two season ending injuries and bounce around 954 00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,680 Speaker 5: and back at Buffalo. So I think when I look 955 00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:09,759 Speaker 5: at that group and how they're successful, so that they 956 00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:13,760 Speaker 5: have the veteran, real veteran pieces and they can tackle 957 00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:16,839 Speaker 5: that I know a lot we were talking about about 958 00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,799 Speaker 5: the past rush and being the turnovers, but them boys 959 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:20,719 Speaker 5: were not tackling. 960 00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:20,960 Speaker 8: Oh. 961 00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,880 Speaker 7: I've been fussing about that even in the draft. Conversation 962 00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:25,680 Speaker 7: is we need corners. 963 00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,480 Speaker 4: That are yes your secondary. 964 00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:32,000 Speaker 7: These offenses now they are gonna force your secondary to 965 00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:32,880 Speaker 7: come up and tackle. 966 00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:34,480 Speaker 4: You used to be able to get away with it. 967 00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,320 Speaker 7: There's plenty of corners we've seen play this game that 968 00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:39,160 Speaker 7: were not strong tacklers. 969 00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:40,840 Speaker 4: No dice, They're. 970 00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,239 Speaker 7: Gonna go after you and make you have to come 971 00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,840 Speaker 7: up on the edge and have to tackle. And to 972 00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,560 Speaker 7: your point, Bree, that is somewhere where you got killed 973 00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,400 Speaker 7: this year from the linebacker spot and secondary. 974 00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:53,799 Speaker 4: And so I agree with you. It's Cole Bishop too 975 00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:54,880 Speaker 4: was huge. 976 00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:59,120 Speaker 5: For them safety safety and that's another tackle safety. 977 00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,040 Speaker 6: And by the way, way the thing that that's still 978 00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:05,279 Speaker 6: costing you, Kayer elim bring him in because that was 979 00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:09,879 Speaker 6: the trade right with Buffalo and so you got him 980 00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:13,040 Speaker 6: along with the sixth round pick for last year's fifth 981 00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:14,760 Speaker 6: round pick and this year a seventh rounder. 982 00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:16,480 Speaker 4: So yeah, so. 983 00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:20,160 Speaker 2: No returns, no returns on that. 984 00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:20,800 Speaker 5: I don't like it. 985 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,759 Speaker 3: It's like when you go to the store you can't 986 00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:25,880 Speaker 3: return your stuff back because you don't. 987 00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:26,680 Speaker 4: Know they charging. 988 00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,960 Speaker 7: Now store credit charge you the charging they charge they 989 00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:32,440 Speaker 7: was charging doing the holiday season returns. 990 00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:34,520 Speaker 5: Trifling online is crazy. 991 00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,480 Speaker 2: I like it all right. Unfortunately we got to go 992 00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:38,000 Speaker 2: this is great. 993 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,320 Speaker 3: By the way, the Cowboys have the twelfth and the 994 00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:44,120 Speaker 3: twentieth pick. What the NFL draft, I think we should 995 00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:44,319 Speaker 3: be had. 996 00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:45,000 Speaker 2: That's something to behind. 997 00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:49,759 Speaker 4: I'm ecstatic with it. I gotta get you guys next week. 998 00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,239 Speaker 6: Let's go through what the Cowboys have done when they've 999 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:55,400 Speaker 6: had multiple first round picks. Because there there have been 1000 00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:58,319 Speaker 6: some big hits, because a few misses, but some really 1001 00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,920 Speaker 6: big hits, and Cowboys hit Street when they've had two 1002 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:02,400 Speaker 6: first run Top twenty picks. 1003 00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:02,560 Speaker 11: Eight. 1004 00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,600 Speaker 4: Appreciate you, ER's appreciate you. 1005 00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,000 Speaker 2: All Right, We're gonna sign off. 1006 00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:11,080 Speaker 3: Unfortunately, we are gonna be breaking that down the history 1007 00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,919 Speaker 3: of the twentieth or first round picks uh next week, 1008 00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,320 Speaker 3: So make sure to stick with us here on Girls Talk. 1009 00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:16,759 Speaker 4: Boys Talk. 1010 00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:20,239 Speaker 3: But for Brionna Audridge, Christy Scales, Aisha Morrison. 1011 00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:20,720 Speaker 5: I'm an cool hutcheson. 1012 00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:22,839 Speaker 4: We'll see you back here Monday at ten am. 1013 00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,520 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 1014 00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:29,560 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.