Speaker 1: All right, you guys want to hear the craziest thing
Speaker 1: that I just realized.
Speaker 2: Yes, always I love the Twilight Zone.
Speaker 1: Mmmm, the old black and white, the Sling original.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can tell you my favorite episodes, Like I
Speaker 2: know all the classic ones, like the Glasses one, you know,
Speaker 2: the End of the World.
Speaker 1: My favorite episode is the one where.
Speaker 2: It's all from a POV of a woman getting surgery
Speaker 2: and people keep coming in but they're wearing masks and
Speaker 2: they're trying to make her normal and the whole and
Speaker 2: then it turns out that she's that they're all pig faces.
Speaker 3: Model.
Speaker 2: I like, you know, every single episode of twilight Zone.
Speaker 2: And we were I was watching something or talking with
Speaker 2: my wife, and I realized, I have never seen an
Speaker 2: episode of Twilight Zone. But yeah, what I had as
Speaker 2: a kid was a book that described every episode. And
Speaker 2: I had the studio teacher on lems my or actually was.
Speaker 1: She wasn't even a student teacher, she was.
Speaker 2: A social worker and she would tell us Twilight Zone
Speaker 2: episode stories as like scary stories. In our dressing room,
Speaker 2: she would turn off all the lights. So I've memorized
Speaker 2: every episode of Twilight Zone. And then she got me
Speaker 2: this book as like a going away gift. So I
Speaker 2: would read it and i'd see black and white frame
Speaker 2: shots from but I've never seen an episode.
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jensen just said it's the Twilight Zone companion book.
Speaker 4: Yes, had it as well.
Speaker 2: Yes, and it was a way for me to read
Speaker 2: and what I read, But I had never realized that,
Speaker 2: I because I have images from the ferns. But isn't
Speaker 2: that weird that I've absorbed this entire pop cultural reference
Speaker 2: without ever seen it?
Speaker 1: Go watch them?
Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 2: Yeah, now I'm excited because I actually think Indy would
Speaker 2: really love them too. And I'm like, and it's you know,
Speaker 2: it's scary, but it's not really, It's just good storytelling.
Speaker 2: But it's so funny that this thing has influenced me
Speaker 2: so much. Like I think about those stories all the time.
Speaker 2: I you know, I use them for how I think
Speaker 2: about writing, and I have like irony and stories and reversals.
Speaker 1: And yet I've never seen an episode. Isn't that you were?
Speaker 6: You?
Speaker 1: Were? You a Tales from the Crypt fan? Too? Uh? No,
Speaker 1: But again, I know some stories, but I've never watched them. Yeah.
Speaker 6: Oh, Tales from the Crypt was great. That was a great,
Speaker 6: great show too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember, see, we never had television, so I
Speaker 2: remember getting my grandparents TV out because there I had
Speaker 2: heard about there was a couple one off or anthology
Speaker 2: series when we were kids, like they that were based
Speaker 2: on the horror films like Friday the Thirteen and Nightmare
Speaker 2: on Elm Street. They had their own like one up
Speaker 2: and Channel fifty would air them. And so I would
Speaker 2: get my grandparents TV and try and get the sad like.
Speaker 1: The end of.
Speaker 2: And I got to get it in black and white
Speaker 2: and would and I would try. It never worked. I
Speaker 2: wanted so bad to be able to see these, like,
Speaker 2: you know, scary stories that I could never get.
Speaker 1: But yeah, this is so weird the way we absorb
Speaker 1: media like.
Speaker 2: You can you can have absorbed like I've gone my
Speaker 2: entire life thinking I've seen all these twilightsises and never
Speaker 2: actually never actually seen it.
Speaker 3: I mean, it sounds perfect for me because I don't
Speaker 3: ever want to watch anything, but I love to read.
Speaker 3: So I'm like, ooh, you tell me I could sit
Speaker 3: down and consume five episodes of a.
Speaker 4: Show without having to watch anything.
Speaker 1: It's watching is a show that I have seen.
Speaker 3: Those two episodes writer mentioned the reading one with the
Speaker 3: End of the World The Glasses and I of the
Speaker 3: Beholder is.
Speaker 6: The episode of the episode that told us about Yeah no,
Speaker 6: it's yeah, the whole thing back in the day of
Speaker 6: you know, trying to find your shows and all this stuff.
Speaker 1: The anthology thing with the horror stories. I'd love to find.
Speaker 1: But did you did you.
Speaker 6: See the thing that one artist did where there's some
Speaker 6: lake up by a campsite somewhere and he made a
Speaker 6: full size Jason, like the mask everything, and he put
Speaker 6: it down with chains into the lake. So if you
Speaker 6: scuba dive down there, there's a full Jason that's like
Speaker 6: wrapped up in the thing. And so it's like it's
Speaker 6: like the way they ended the movie where he's down there.
Speaker 6: So he's actually down at the bottom of the lake.
Speaker 6: And there's become a place where people go and they
Speaker 6: scuba dive and they take pictures of it. It's really
Speaker 6: creepy because you don't know where it is, and then
Speaker 6: you have to have shine a light on it and
Speaker 6: Jason down there.
Speaker 7: At the bottom.
Speaker 1: Super cool nighttime scuba dive people have been doing so
Speaker 1: they can find Jason right at the bottom of the lake. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's so cool, totally cool.
Speaker 4: Welcome to pod Meets World.
Speaker 1: I'm Daniel Fischel, I'm Rider Strong, and I'm Wilfordell.
Speaker 3: When we started this podcast, we barely knew what we
Speaker 3: were doing. We knew we wanted to be truthful and
Speaker 3: replicate the conversations the three of us were having at
Speaker 3: dinners during conventions, but as far as how we'd go
Speaker 3: about it, that was always a let's mold it as
Speaker 3: it's happening type of thing. So we both our production
Speaker 3: team and went about the process of living and learning.
Speaker 3: If you remember, at first we were only going to
Speaker 3: do one episode a week. A second episode would be
Speaker 3: a treat. Then we realized we couldn't stop ourselves from
Speaker 3: talking endlessly for hours even if we tried, so two
Speaker 3: shouldn't be a problem. We tried having outside guests sit
Speaker 3: in on recaps, we obviously adapted during the strike.
Speaker 4: And hell, we've even podcasted from a car.
Speaker 3: This show has always been its own living organism, and
Speaker 3: we're happy it's still breathing. And when we kicked everything off,
Speaker 3: we wanted to interview a few of the later season
Speaker 3: guest stars right off the bat, even before they'd appear
Speaker 3: in the rewatch. The actors with the most episodes to
Speaker 3: their name seemed important first, so we started with Trina
Speaker 3: McGhee and our guest this week, Matthew Lawrence back in
Speaker 3: season one of the pod. We learned quickly we didn't
Speaker 3: really have any episodes to talk about with them yet,
Speaker 3: considering you all know how little we remember, and we
Speaker 3: figured we'll get to everyone when they pop up and
Speaker 3: have scenes to dissect, in questions to ask. And now
Speaker 3: here we are in season five, our Jack Hunter era,
Speaker 3: and so this week we are thrilled to welcome back
Speaker 3: an actor who's synonymous with Boy Meets World, almost seventy
Speaker 3: episodes worth, actually debuting in the season five premiere and
Speaker 3: staying until the very last episode of the show. He
Speaker 3: began his career as a little boy on Dynasty and
Speaker 3: appeared in classics like Planes, Trains and Automobiles and Missus Doubtfire.
Speaker 3: You know him from shows like Give Me a Break,
Speaker 3: Blossom and Brotherly Love, a sitcom he starred in alongside
Speaker 3: his two brothers, Joey and Andy and his co hosts
Speaker 3: now on a podcast of the same name. Today on
Speaker 3: Pod meets World, back when we have more to talk about.
Speaker 3: It's the half brother we never knew we had. Let's
Speaker 3: say hello to Matthew Lawrence.
Speaker 1: Eh, say God, good to see you. What's going on?
Speaker 4: Not much?
Speaker 1: How you doing? I'm doing all right? How are you
Speaker 1: look like you're in a pro studio? Is this your
Speaker 1: home studio? Yeah, it's like there's that nice. I've been there.
Speaker 7: I've been there or speaking of which, speaking of being here, guys,
Speaker 7: I would love if you would all be on the show.
Speaker 1: I know it's a lot to ask.
Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, of course, would we love it?
Speaker 1: Love? Okay, amazing, I already did it. I'm not I
Speaker 1: don't want to go.
Speaker 3: Yeah, please please, please please.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 3: So we are very excited to have you because we
Speaker 3: have now entered the Jack Hunter era of Boy Meets World,
Speaker 3: and now we have a lot of very specific questions.
Speaker 3: But first, before we get into that, I would like
Speaker 3: to know if you could tell me more about this
Speaker 3: recent Lawrence Brothers vacation that you guys went on.
Speaker 1: That you seem to be gone for three months or something.
Speaker 3: I lived vicariously through this entire vacation, and I need
Speaker 3: to know more about this sleeping situation where you and
Speaker 3: Joe had to share a room.
Speaker 4: Tell me what who was on the vacation. What would
Speaker 4: what did you do? I want to know everything?
Speaker 7: Okay, cool, Yeah, I'm glad to talk about it. We
Speaker 7: got very lucky. So the girl my nieces are one's
Speaker 7: going into high school and one's going away to college.
Speaker 1: Jeez.
Speaker 7: And we hadn't been believed it or not like people.
Speaker 7: You know, I'm sure you guys can relate. People see
Speaker 7: you on a podcast together and they think that you're
Speaker 7: together all the time and you're hanging out, but actually
Speaker 7: when you do podcasts and you're working together, your hangout
Speaker 7: time becomes work, so it's not really like hangout times
Speaker 7: as a family. We hadn't been on vacation in probably
Speaker 7: over like a decade, no joke, we hades. So the
Speaker 7: girls wanted to go to Disneyland before they kind of
Speaker 7: went into these new phases in their lives, and it
Speaker 7: was to go to Disneyland for like four or five days,
Speaker 7: stay at the hotel.
Speaker 1: Do it was astronomical?
Speaker 3: Oh Yeahsney doesn't us like they used to.
Speaker 4: No guides, no, no guides, nothing dollars.
Speaker 1: We're like, wait a minute. We were like this is crazy.
Speaker 7: And so I happened to go to Sandals with my
Speaker 7: girlfriend at the beginning of the year, and so we
Speaker 7: reached out to Sandals and they have a family partner,
Speaker 7: which is Beach's Resorts, and they had they were they
Speaker 7: were so gracious. They were like, yeah, come down, you know,
Speaker 7: have fun. We had no idea. We thought, Okay, this
Speaker 7: will be you know, it'll be cool to all be together.
Speaker 1: No matter what happens, it'll be fun.
Speaker 7: But this was one of those like all time great
Speaker 7: family vacations. So it was Joe, me, Andy, Andy's girlfriend,
Speaker 7: my mom, and our nieces and yeah, it was sweet and.
Speaker 1: But the room situation was hilarious. It was this beautiful room.
Speaker 7: But when we got in there, the girls like freaked
Speaker 7: out over the main suite because of the bathroom and
Speaker 7: the vanity and all this stuff. So Joe and I
Speaker 7: were like, well.
Speaker 4: We should let them have that.
Speaker 7: We're gonna let the girls have the main suite and
Speaker 7: we're gonna take the two beds. And it was the
Speaker 7: first time since we were like sixteen that we had
Speaker 7: shared a room together.
Speaker 1: A lot of interesting stuff. Apparently I snore.
Speaker 8: Joe's literally much like the episode and yeah, oh my god,
Speaker 8: yeah did you did you?
Speaker 1: And Joe whistle That's the question we we did.
Speaker 7: We you know, our wrestling was about the bathroom. Spends
Speaker 7: hours in the bathroom.
Speaker 1: I think that's like when you have kids. It's like
Speaker 1: for a.
Speaker 7: Guy, it's a sectuary sanctuary exactly. Joe and I did
Speaker 7: have an issue over the bathroom, but outside of that
Speaker 7: it was all right.
Speaker 1: No no major fights.
Speaker 6: But no way you were at sandals where where exactly
Speaker 6: where he was this Jamaica.
Speaker 7: Jamaica beach is a grill. It's beautiful seven Mile Beach. Guys,
Speaker 7: if you ever get a chance to take your family there,
Speaker 7: I just want to go.
Speaker 1: It's so beautiful.
Speaker 3: Seven for will If you need location, yeah, security.
Speaker 4: Used to walk around, the safe to walk around.
Speaker 7: That's yes, absolutely, it's beautiful. You know you have to
Speaker 7: there's always those issues when you go, you know, to places,
Speaker 7: and I know that they have these alerts sometimes for safety,
Speaker 7: but I never felt unsafe once.
Speaker 4: Did anyone go herping with you?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 3: No, But I just I just didn't know if anybody was, like,
Speaker 3: were you alone?
Speaker 4: Did you solo herp?
Speaker 1: I did?
Speaker 7: I did?
Speaker 6: You know? Herping is forever? There is no cure. So
Speaker 6: it's so true you're just throwing what is.
Speaker 1: Hunting? That's right. Yes.
Speaker 7: The study of reptiles amphibians is called herpetology. So when
Speaker 7: you go out into the field and you you look
Speaker 7: for them, it's called herping.
Speaker 1: It's an absolutely unfortunate title for it. It really is.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you, I've gotten it all my life.
Speaker 7: Everybody, whenever I say it, they always either give me
Speaker 7: a double take, or if they have enough to, you know,
Speaker 7: want to say something, they will They're like, well, staying
Speaker 7: away from you, right, yeah, but yeah, I did most
Speaker 7: of the nights. I love There's these little colloquial frogs
Speaker 7: that make these little like whistling Oh cool, And I
Speaker 7: caught a bunch of those.
Speaker 1: I was checking those out.
Speaker 7: There's a bunch of different geckos and endemic anoles and uh,
Speaker 7: all sorts of stuff and birds, bats.
Speaker 3: Do you know of the I think that I don't
Speaker 3: know if this is like its official term, but it's
Speaker 3: called a Tokay gecko.
Speaker 4: Do you know that? Okay?
Speaker 7: I love it.
Speaker 3: So Jensen and I when we went to Thailand, Okay
Speaker 3: splurged in this on this one night in this gorgeous
Speaker 3: hotel that was like fully in a jungle, and our
Speaker 3: room was up high and we had the bathroom was outside,
Speaker 3: and we we get into bed and we hear oh yeah,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, I'm like what I look at I'm like,
Speaker 3: did you okay?
Speaker 1: That was weird?
Speaker 3: And then we go back like I'm in I'm reading
Speaker 3: my book. Jensen's on his phone. We hear.
Speaker 1: I love it. It's a bit of a seductive to.
Speaker 3: It really was kind of sexy, and I was like,
Speaker 3: what is going on?
Speaker 4: I look at Jensen again. He's like I heard at
Speaker 4: that time? What is it?
Speaker 3: And I'm like hearing it from my right side, but
Speaker 3: there's nothing except forest out the right, Like there's just
Speaker 3: jungle out there, and I'm like, this is so weird,
Speaker 3: and I go, I.
Speaker 4: Haven't washed my face yet. What if I what is?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 4: Who's out there? What is it? What's talking? So we
Speaker 4: end up going outside quickly trying to get ready. The
Speaker 4: whole time I'm like, this is the craziest thing ever.
Speaker 1: So we quickly wash.
Speaker 3: Our face, brush our teeth, run back in and it
Speaker 3: keeps happening. So I call down. I'm like, Hi, this
Speaker 3: is gonna sound so so weird. But there is someone
Speaker 3: saying okay.
Speaker 6: And.
Speaker 4: Somebody's and uh Anyway, she was like, oh, it's the
Speaker 4: toe k get go. They really do, just go, Okay,
Speaker 4: they do.
Speaker 1: They're they're amazing.
Speaker 7: I was in the Philippines and I was staying in
Speaker 7: a similar place like that where it was just jungle,
Speaker 7: and we had some massive they can get big, and they're.
Speaker 1: Called little factory.
Speaker 7: They're called the pit bulls of the of the gecko
Speaker 7: community because they have a really gnarly bite, like they
Speaker 7: can actually bite the crap out of you.
Speaker 1: Their heads are like awesome.
Speaker 7: I would have seen I would have been like and
Speaker 7: I would have been out in the jungle flash headlamp
Speaker 7: or something.
Speaker 4: So oh man. Well, once we knew what it was,
Speaker 4: we were like, okay, well, okay.
Speaker 7: You should sleep easy because they will take care of
Speaker 7: all the other bugs you don't want around.
Speaker 4: Great. Great, I love to hear that.
Speaker 3: Okay, thank you for I wanted to make sure I
Speaker 3: wasn't totally crazy, because anytime I've told the story to somebody.
Speaker 4: Else, they're like, hmm, that's a cute story.
Speaker 3: We don't know anything about the to We don't believe you,
Speaker 3: but I knew Matt would know.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 7: They're beautiful too. They're like cream colored with these range spots.
Speaker 1: The gorgeous. Yeah, really really cool.
Speaker 8: Get go.
Speaker 3: Before we jump into boy meets World chat, I just
Speaker 3: wanted to acknowledge because you mentioned your girlfriend Chili earlier,
Speaker 3: and I just want to say we were all present
Speaker 3: when you guys met.
Speaker 4: It was at Nineties Con.
Speaker 2: We were all there and as welcome, Yeah, bringing the
Speaker 2: nineties icons together, and.
Speaker 3: I feel like we had a little hand in this
Speaker 3: love story and it just makes me happy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you guys did. I think that's why
Speaker 1: I think it's definitely true. That was crazy.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 1: I almost didn't go. Really, I almost couldn't go. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was like the down to the last minute. Wow, yeah,
Speaker 1: my friend.
Speaker 7: And then the only reason why I actually had a
Speaker 7: long conversation with Chili is because I had to get
Speaker 7: back for work and I had to change my flight
Speaker 7: and I don't know if you remember, it was snowstorm
Speaker 7: and they were like, so I was supposed to fly
Speaker 7: through I think Detroit, LA. And then the other flight
Speaker 7: I was able to get was through Atlanta, which is
Speaker 7: where lives was going. So we actually connected on the
Speaker 7: plane ride back that that first leg of the plane
Speaker 7: ride because we were sitting shoes sting right behind me,
Speaker 7: so we just started chatting and stuff nice.
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: We were literally just like talking like people were so
Speaker 1: just been like, oh god, I hate this. So yeah,
Speaker 1: it was. It was terrible.
Speaker 3: That plane was furious. They were like, long are these two?
Speaker 3: And when they started dating, they were like all right,
Speaker 3: all right, okay, boy meets World chat. When was the
Speaker 3: last time you watched an episode of Boy Meets.
Speaker 7: World outside of literally when we wrapped last night, because
Speaker 7: I wanted, I swear, I mean I had, like I'd
Speaker 7: seen clips obviously on social media people are always posting stuff,
Speaker 7: but uh, I actually actually I got an email from
Speaker 7: your crew and they were like, hey, they're on this
Speaker 7: episode on Disney Plus.
Speaker 1: And I was like, hey, you know, I was getting
Speaker 1: to bed. It was like instead of.
Speaker 7: Putting on, you know, some not geo specials, like I'm
Speaker 7: gonna put on Boy Mets World and I'm gonna watch
Speaker 7: some of it.
Speaker 1: And it was a good episode. It was a great episode, guys.
Speaker 1: I gotta say I was.
Speaker 7: I was honestly expecting to be like, cringe, I can't
Speaker 7: watch myself.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to. I was actually really pleasantly described.
Speaker 7: So much fun like and I was I absolutely got
Speaker 7: such a joy watching you guys.
Speaker 1: I mean, you guys were all so great.
Speaker 7: It's weird because I was like still coming into my
Speaker 7: own when it comes to like the timing and the
Speaker 7: show and you guys. But you guys were so like
Speaker 7: in the in the I mean you were just in it. Man.
Speaker 7: You were so on point and good. I enjoyed every
Speaker 7: single one of your characters.
Speaker 1: It was great. The storyline was great.
Speaker 7: I genuinely laughed, like genuinely was like, wow, yeah, they don't.
Speaker 1: They don't make them like they used to.
Speaker 3: In the few episodes leading up to this spectacular episode,
Speaker 3: we have absolutely watched you become very comfortable. We see
Speaker 3: it happening. There are some really funny line deliveries. There's
Speaker 3: some really interesting choices. It's been such a joy to
Speaker 3: watch you and kill culminated in this episode. It's just
Speaker 3: an incredible performance by you. I need to know that
Speaker 3: boxing dance.
Speaker 4: Yeah, did you just do that? It was so genius?
Speaker 7: Did you I appreciate it? No, I was super nervous
Speaker 7: about doing that. So that was like an out of
Speaker 7: body experience. It was like, I'm just gonna go with
Speaker 7: it here.
Speaker 1: It works, and it works.
Speaker 7: Sometimes that happens right Sometimes, you know, actors always say
Speaker 7: you can come off of stage and you like, that's
Speaker 7: the worst performance ever did.
Speaker 1: People were like, we love it.
Speaker 7: And then you can come off stage and be like,
Speaker 7: that was probably the best performance I've ever given and
Speaker 7: people are.
Speaker 1: Like, oh, yeah, we got to do that again. You
Speaker 1: never know sometimes as an actor. So, but you and
Speaker 1: I were doing so much physical stuff in this episode.
Speaker 1: Did we have a stunt? Court? I don't remember? Or
Speaker 1: did we just I was.
Speaker 7: Thinking of a lot of this stuff I didn't even
Speaker 7: remember doing, like I was we did that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wait, I don't I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know if we had a stump and they're
Speaker 2: good because it's all time to the dialogue and it
Speaker 2: was just believable enough that we could.
Speaker 1: Keep pinning each other. It's like there's like four reversals.
Speaker 4: I was like, how did.
Speaker 1: We pull this off? But we didn't know that.
Speaker 6: We did?
Speaker 1: Fun, guys, it was so much fun.
Speaker 7: It brought back so many good memories and yeah, I just,
Speaker 7: like I said, I just such a joy to watch
Speaker 7: you guys so so great.
Speaker 3: Well, we're gonna keep putting it back on you, Matt,
Speaker 3: because we feel exactly the same way about you, and
Speaker 3: you've really settled into your own in such a beautiful way.
Speaker 3: One of the little Easter eggs that we've noticed of
Speaker 3: the guy's apartment is that there is art, photographic art
Speaker 3: above the kitchen sink that keeps changing.
Speaker 4: Change every week.
Speaker 3: It's a food, it's a food item, and they changed
Speaker 3: the food every week every week. Did you have any
Speaker 3: memory of this last week, not this week with you guys,
Speaker 3: with the with the sharing a room, but the week.
Speaker 4: Before it was a hot dog, it was a with mustard.
Speaker 3: The week before there was something with like some Chinese food,
Speaker 3: kim chi.
Speaker 4: Maybe do you remember anything about that?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 7: I have a I don't know if this is correct
Speaker 7: or accurate, but I do have a vague memory of
Speaker 7: the set deck and props talking about how they used
Speaker 7: to do funny things in the kitchen, said on Seinfeld.
Speaker 7: And he was friends with that guy and he was
Speaker 7: trying to incorporate I remember him trying to incorporate certain
Speaker 7: things like that that were.
Speaker 1: Remember. I remember him saying that.
Speaker 7: I remember going, wait a minute. I remember one time
Speaker 7: going wait a minute, was that there? And he was like, no, no,
Speaker 7: that's our little that's our little thing.
Speaker 5: I know.
Speaker 6: One of the things they took from Seinfeld is Seinfeld
Speaker 6: had his in his kitchen, had his cereal boxes.
Speaker 1: Yes, I mean just like one of his favorite things.
Speaker 6: And one of his cereals was and of course they
Speaker 6: had to greek out some of the some of the titles,
Speaker 6: so one of his cereals was Waffel Crisp instead of
Speaker 6: waffle cross minute, And so we for a while in
Speaker 6: the apartment had Vaffel Crisp. We had the same they
Speaker 6: like greet did out in exactly the.
Speaker 1: Same way because of Seinfeld. So great.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, there was a lot of like plays on
Speaker 7: that show when they were in the certain sets, you know,
Speaker 7: in these familiar living room kitchen sets.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Super cool.
Speaker 3: So your relationship with Sean is such a big starting
Speaker 3: point for your character, and it starts off pretty emotional.
Speaker 3: Do you have any memories of getting to know writer
Speaker 3: and working on those scenes as actors?
Speaker 7: Well, I think I don't know if this was what
Speaker 7: you experienced, but for me it was we weren't supposed
Speaker 7: to really know each other very well, so I didn't
Speaker 7: put any emphasis on, Hey, we got to develop these mannerism,
Speaker 7: we got to like really work it was almost like, hey,
Speaker 7: let's kind of go into this a little cold and
Speaker 7: see how it goes, because that uncomfortable kind of freshness
Speaker 7: of it would be I think perfect for the performance.
Speaker 1: So that's what I was feeling.
Speaker 7: I was kind of actually purposefully just sort of going
Speaker 7: in that my relationship, get to know you kind of
Speaker 7: as the characters. I knew that the first couple of
Speaker 7: weeks it.
Speaker 1: Needed to be bumpy. I mean it was going to
Speaker 1: be bumpy. So yeah, I don't remember.
Speaker 7: I don't even know if we like went off on
Speaker 7: the side and even rehearsed once, right, like we just
Speaker 7: kind of we were on set.
Speaker 1: We did it.
Speaker 7: We obviously had our run throughs and stuff, so we
Speaker 7: were able to get up to speed, but we never
Speaker 7: had that like let's go aside and really form that
Speaker 7: because you and I did.
Speaker 1: You and I did that several times.
Speaker 7: We had to because we were getting paired together and
Speaker 7: kind of like a buddy couple type of things. So
Speaker 7: it made sense for us to do because that had
Speaker 7: to that had to kind of catch up much quicker,
Speaker 7: whereas our relationship as brothers was somewhat estranged and and
Speaker 7: we didn't really grow up together, so it was best.
Speaker 1: I felt if we did keep a little bit of
Speaker 1: distance there.
Speaker 7: As much as I wanted to be like, let's go
Speaker 7: to lunch to hang out, you know, of course I
Speaker 7: wanted to do that, but I thought, let's see if
Speaker 7: we can work this in.
Speaker 1: But it worked out great.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's that this episode, when we finally are
Speaker 2: able to like do scenes and work together, it's so refreshing,
Speaker 2: Like it's so good. It makes everything better. Like I
Speaker 2: wish this had been the first episode, you know, because
Speaker 2: when they played it for the drama, it just because
Speaker 2: both of us were very you know, both of us
Speaker 2: were very serious actors. We both wanted to be more
Speaker 2: dramatic actors than commedys, right, and so you put two
Speaker 2: of those together and it just didn't wear as you
Speaker 2: and will because you could be the more straight guy
Speaker 2: against his like wackiness. You just had so much more chemistry.
Speaker 2: But then this episode where we're allowed to be a
Speaker 2: little silly together.
Speaker 7: It was I was thinking the same thing, and dude
Speaker 7: that I was so impressed too with you Ryder because
Speaker 7: you know, you took on more of the brunt of
Speaker 7: carrying the more serious, you know, subtexts when it came
Speaker 7: to the plot of the show.
Speaker 1: That was kind of you know, put on you and
Speaker 1: and and rightfully so that you know, you're really great
Speaker 1: with that stuff. But it was so much fun.
Speaker 7: Too to get to see you like, yeah, you can
Speaker 7: do both.
Speaker 1: It was awesome, dude.
Speaker 7: It was so much fun to see, Yeah, you get
Speaker 7: to lighten up because you have that side to you
Speaker 7: as well. And I feel like for a couple of
Speaker 7: years there you had been really hammering out the.
Speaker 2: Serious conte and then I think for the rest of
Speaker 2: the show, yeah, you kind of drama.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was great to see.
Speaker 7: I really loved I love seeing that you had a
Speaker 7: complete one eighty reversal.
Speaker 1: It was It was awesome.
Speaker 3: So, as you mentioned, it was a little bit different
Speaker 3: than with your relationship with Will, because you guys did
Speaker 3: have that kind of buddy chemistry. What do you remember
Speaker 3: about your time with Will getting to know each other
Speaker 3: and working on your your scenes together.
Speaker 7: All I know is there was one there was one like, uh,
Speaker 7: there was one note session where we were getting some
Speaker 7: notes and we hadn't quite like really found the pieces
Speaker 7: and you cracked a joke about as long as my
Speaker 7: hip's working or something, as long as the hips working
Speaker 7: I don't know what it was.
Speaker 1: It flored me.
Speaker 7: I and for some reason, that little ad lib you gave,
Speaker 7: not on camera but in a note session clicked with
Speaker 7: your timing for me, and I was like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 7: this timing is freaking hilarious. And then I started to
Speaker 7: watch for it and I realized you had this kind
Speaker 7: of natural syncopation with that.
Speaker 1: Type of timing.
Speaker 7: It just flowed out of you, and I was like,
Speaker 7: I could, I could fill in the beats there and
Speaker 7: give you a launching platform and it felt comfortable, like
Speaker 7: a little real comfortable spot for me.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I love this.
Speaker 7: I love being the guy to like, hey, dude, here's
Speaker 7: here's a here's a.
Speaker 1: That's exactly what it felt like. As soon as I
Speaker 1: as soon as.
Speaker 7: That one note session was over, it clicked for me.
Speaker 7: And then from that point forward, I was kind of like, oh,
Speaker 7: I get it. Now let's just kind of bat off
Speaker 7: each other and let's just play off each other and
Speaker 7: I'll fill in those slots that you.
Speaker 1: And it worked.
Speaker 7: I mean it just worked, dude. Yeah, it totally worked.
Speaker 7: And then it was just it was just pure joy.
Speaker 7: You know, you don't know when you're doing it, But
Speaker 7: when you have space away from it and you try
Speaker 7: to recreate it later on down the road or you
Speaker 7: think you're gonna those pure joy moments on camera doing
Speaker 7: bits with another actor are very few and far between. Yeah,
Speaker 7: and I didn't realize how special they were, but they were.
Speaker 1: It was just pure.
Speaker 7: Joy out there, like you can't beat it, because I
Speaker 7: wasn't even thinking like it was like you're in a
Speaker 7: zen space. You're in this like out of body, like
Speaker 7: bigger than and better than you could expect you to
Speaker 7: be at that moment because you're kind of like you're
Speaker 7: feeding off of someone else's energy and it's just it
Speaker 7: was great, man.
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, it it clicked for the two of us,
Speaker 6: It really did. And and I think also we just
Speaker 6: we would work on it together too, because I know
Speaker 6: there was times where they'd be off doing their scenes
Speaker 6: down the way with you know, the director, everybody, and
Speaker 6: then you and I would run into the set and
Speaker 6: be like, all right, let's let's work through this, and
Speaker 6: you and I would like just the two of us
Speaker 6: go through the scene.
Speaker 1: And it did. We just connected as actors. It was great.
Speaker 7: Yeah, And I started to really care, I mean really
Speaker 7: care about the product. Because I knew it like it
Speaker 7: was work, So why not give it like one hundred
Speaker 7: and eighty percent to see where this could go?
Speaker 1: You know, sorry, go ahead, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I'm curious if you can, because I feel like,
Speaker 2: you know, we've talked over the years about your journey
Speaker 2: as an actor, and I feel like you've had so
Speaker 2: many distinct phases, particularly since you kind of came of
Speaker 2: consciousness already acting. I mean, you were already in shows,
Speaker 2: in commercials, doing stuff. And I've heard you talk about
Speaker 2: before like the pressures you put on yourself and how
Speaker 2: can you like talk about the journeys the journey you've
Speaker 2: been on, are like the major movements that you've gone through,
Speaker 2: like in your approach to acting or what acting has
Speaker 2: meant to you.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean sure, absolutely acting has been you know.
Speaker 7: I mean, guys, you know it's it's it's one heck
Speaker 7: of a journey. I don't wish it on anybody that doesn't.
Speaker 1: Really truly love it.
Speaker 7: I got lucky because I started so young, wasn't necessarily
Speaker 7: a conscious choice. I got lucky that it's something that
Speaker 7: I really really love. And when you really really love
Speaker 7: some than like that everything that goes on in that
Speaker 7: journey becomes worth it, you know, because you would do
Speaker 7: it anyway, and so.
Speaker 1: It was all worth it.
Speaker 7: But you know, there were there were a lot of
Speaker 7: times growing up where I did things kind of all
Speaker 7: out of place, like I I'm sure again you guys
Speaker 7: can maybe relate to this, like things that I should
Speaker 7: have you know, had in my development as a young
Speaker 7: maybe seven to ten or seven to twelve year old.
Speaker 7: I had to figure out a little later in life
Speaker 7: and things that I should have been going through maybe
Speaker 7: and even my twenties, I had to figure out, you know,
Speaker 7: in that age range and that seven to twelve injury.
Speaker 1: So it was all over the place.
Speaker 7: I got lucky that, you know, I was, so I
Speaker 7: was on the right projects, surrounded by people like you guys,
Speaker 7: I had my family.
Speaker 1: It was a nice bubble.
Speaker 7: I didn't you know, get get caught up into, you know,
Speaker 7: the wrong and stuff on the ugly side of the business.
Speaker 1: I was protected, you know in a way.
Speaker 7: But the one thing that I do wish you were
Speaker 7: saying about pressure or I did put a lot of
Speaker 7: pressure and it didn't click until maybe the last season
Speaker 7: of Boy Meets World for me as an actor, where
Speaker 7: I realized those moments I think, you know what it is.
Speaker 7: I had an audition where I went in and my
Speaker 7: agent had gotten all mixed up. They'd given me the
Speaker 7: wrong sides for the wrong character, and I'd spent like
Speaker 7: it was like a pretty big, you know deal. It
Speaker 7: was like a maybe not a studio test, maybe a
Speaker 7: screen test. And they're like, you know, in the old days,
Speaker 7: I used to have like twenty people in the room.
Speaker 7: And they called me in and they literally I get
Speaker 7: in the room, was like I met the receptionist said
Speaker 7: there was a mistake. I get in the room and
Speaker 7: I'm like, all right, let's go and read this character
Speaker 7: of Dan.
Speaker 1: Or whatever it was. And they were like, oh no,
Speaker 1: you're not.
Speaker 7: You're not coming in for that pages three scenes comedy,
Speaker 7: like you gotta be like you know and uh. And
Speaker 7: the executi producer who I remember was a big execut producer.
Speaker 1: I think he had just come off of like Everybody
Speaker 1: Loves Raymond.
Speaker 7: It was like a big and he goes, no, but
Speaker 7: here's three scenes for this other character, and just do
Speaker 7: them cold.
Speaker 1: You're a pro.
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh my gosh, my gosh.
Speaker 1: So it's also kind of freeing in a way, right,
Speaker 1: like hey, yeah, I had to go, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm gonna drop. I had to drop everything. There was
Speaker 1: no room for nerves. There was no room for anything.
Speaker 1: And I had that again, that like out of body experience.
Speaker 1: They were laughing and they were and they were.
Speaker 7: Like at the end, they were like, it was probably
Speaker 7: one of the best reads I had. I didn't get
Speaker 7: the role, but it was probably one of the best reads.
Speaker 7: They've just said that you know you're not right for
Speaker 7: the character, but it was one of the best cold
Speaker 7: reads in a room we've seen.
Speaker 1: A long time.
Speaker 4: Amazing.
Speaker 7: After that, I realized even in those moments like whether
Speaker 7: you got to make people laugh or even cry, if
Speaker 7: you're backstage and you're like, oh my gosh, the nerves.
Speaker 1: Block Yeah, all of.
Speaker 7: The really good stuff, like when you want to just
Speaker 7: naturally have tears flowing, or if you want to just
Speaker 7: naturally make somebody laugh.
Speaker 1: Nerves are the worst thing you can work up for that.
Speaker 7: It's kind to be the opposite, like you got to
Speaker 7: work about let it all go take, you know, do
Speaker 7: breathing exercises, whatever you gotta do to calm yourself and
Speaker 7: center yourself before you go out there and perform.
Speaker 1: Otherwise you're just going to get in your own way.
Speaker 1: It's also over over rehearsing too.
Speaker 6: I mean, the worst audition I ever had in my
Speaker 6: life was one that I just rehearsed too much for
Speaker 6: and then you walk in.
Speaker 1: And I was and it was that was it.
Speaker 7: So it was like that last season, that audition, that
Speaker 7: last season of Woman's World was actually when I became
Speaker 7: an actor. Honestly, before that, I was just kind of
Speaker 7: a young kid. I was finding my way. I was
Speaker 7: trying out different things. I was really hard on myself.
Speaker 7: I didn't like watching the stuff that I had done.
Speaker 1: I wasn't, you know.
Speaker 7: But it was in that moment i'd say, like that
Speaker 7: nineteen or twenty range whatever that was where it kind
Speaker 7: of clicked and then I was like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 7: you mean I can really be free and enjoy this
Speaker 7: thing that I love doing out there. That's something that's
Speaker 7: really special, and then I want to continue to do
Speaker 7: no matter what if people, you know, if i'd get jobs.
Speaker 1: Don't get you.
Speaker 7: It'll just be something until you know, hopefully I can
Speaker 7: do until my eighties if I live that long.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's come up a few times on our show,
Speaker 3: especially the season because we've really noticed some differences in
Speaker 3: the show right off the bat with season five, and
Speaker 3: we've talked about some of the hurdles that we had.
Speaker 3: Do you remember working with Alan Myerson, the director of
Speaker 3: most of this season.
Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely.
Speaker 7: You know I'm getting like weird flashes of his face
Speaker 7: and kind of his mannerisms. I haven't honestly thought about
Speaker 7: this probably I don't know, decades, but yeah, I think.
Speaker 1: Again, I was a little bit in a bubble because you.
Speaker 7: Guys obviously had had previous experience and we're coming into
Speaker 7: this and then it had this experience with him. But
Speaker 7: I do recollect that there was a tension on set.
Speaker 7: I do remember that, and I remember there were some
Speaker 7: conflicts between the cast and him. I do remember that
Speaker 7: for sure. And so I think there was a moment
Speaker 7: where but I I didn't have the I didn't feel
Speaker 7: like I had the my feet underneath me enough to
Speaker 7: come state my position. But I think there was a
Speaker 7: couple of points where you were giving me some notes
Speaker 7: where I was like, ah, I don't know, or the
Speaker 7: way he gave me the notes.
Speaker 1: I think I was a little like that didn't feel great.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 6: Maybe I don't remember one specifically. I remember one very
Speaker 6: specific moment, and you stood up for yourself. I did,
Speaker 6: you did, and and your read made it in and
Speaker 6: it was one of the funniest reads of the show.
Speaker 6: He wanted to change the Ushgar I want to break up.
Speaker 1: Remember where we were, yes the Henry.
Speaker 6: Episode, and he wanted you to engage her and do
Speaker 6: a different thing. And you're like, no, because I remember
Speaker 6: you came and talked to me about it. You're like, no,
Speaker 6: the comedy is I'm not looking at her. I'm looking
Speaker 6: away and finishing my thought and he doesn't want me
Speaker 6: to do it, and I'm like, well, go tell him that.
Speaker 6: You're like, you're right, I'm gonna and then you just
Speaker 6: did it your way and you got a big laugh.
Speaker 6: So it was he was Yeah, he was very hands on,
Speaker 6: I think is the nice way of putting it.
Speaker 3: And Matt, we get tons of comments on our Instagram,
Speaker 3: specifically about the way you delivered that line. But that
Speaker 3: is a fan favorite, bush Car, I want to break
Speaker 3: Up is a fan favorite.
Speaker 1: And you fought for that.
Speaker 6: That was you fought for that moment because he tried
Speaker 6: to change that, full on change it, and you were like, no,
Speaker 6: this is how it has to be. Done and it
Speaker 6: became a great line.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 7: How cool is that? You know again that how when?
Speaker 7: How often does that happen? Where you you want to
Speaker 7: do something and that happens to work.
Speaker 1: That's super cool.
Speaker 6: I have a question because you and I were standing
Speaker 6: next to each other at the time. Do you remember
Speaker 6: a certain actor who was a guest star blowing up
Speaker 6: at Alan on set?
Speaker 1: Yes? Yes?
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I mean do you remember there's the two
Speaker 6: of us looking at each other. It was Paul Gleeson, Yes,
Speaker 6: who has since passed away. But he just and it
Speaker 6: came out of nowhere. Is the thing I remember is
Speaker 6: you and I were like sitting there in the middle
Speaker 6: of the scene and he just slammed his script down
Speaker 6: and went I'm not a puppet and we were like,
Speaker 6: oh damn.
Speaker 1: Like it just came out of nowhere. Do you remember
Speaker 1: that moment?
Speaker 7: Do I do?
Speaker 1: I totally remember that moment.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: Yeah. It was super awkward, But again I.
Speaker 7: Felt kind of like, well, you know, maybe not the
Speaker 7: best approached, but I'm glad somebody's kind of speaking up
Speaker 7: and saying things because it was so it really was.
Speaker 7: It was and look, you know, in certain regards, I
Speaker 7: respect that he you know, had this opinion and wanted
Speaker 7: to do it, but it's always a collaboration. Yeah, I
Speaker 7: just especially for you guys. I was like, you know,
Speaker 7: they've been doing this a long time. I think if
Speaker 7: they if you pressure them on something and they pressed
Speaker 7: back enough with all these different things about why their
Speaker 7: character wouldn't or how they feel, I feel like you
Speaker 7: go with when a cast has been doing it for
Speaker 7: you know, four or five seasons at this.
Speaker 1: Point, you know.
Speaker 7: So I was kind of like, yeah, but yeah, that
Speaker 7: was awkward. It's always awkward when somebody blows up.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Blake Clark has been talked about a lot on the show,
Speaker 3: and we had him as a guest. You when you
Speaker 3: first come onto the show, you have kind of a
Speaker 3: right away you have a little bit of a heavy
Speaker 3: scene with him.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Was he somebody that in your scenes?
Speaker 3: Was Do you remember having like everyone else has talked
Speaker 3: about how hard it was for them to keep a
Speaker 3: straight face around him because he was just constantly so funny.
Speaker 3: Do you also remember having that experience or were in
Speaker 3: most of your scenes? Was it pretty heavy?
Speaker 7: You know, it was pretty heavy there. I think there
Speaker 7: was a couple moments where I started to realize how
Speaker 7: talented and funny he was. When it was those off
Speaker 7: moments and he started to just riff on cutting up
Speaker 7: when the camera wasn't rolling, that's when he kind of
Speaker 7: had me really going. But in those yeah, those first
Speaker 7: especially that first episode, Yeah, it was so serious and
Speaker 7: I was again, like we were talking about Rider, I
Speaker 7: was so in my head and so like again, I
Speaker 7: just I wanted to be able to match your intensity
Speaker 7: on screen. So I was so in my head about
Speaker 7: that that I it was probably I was probably pretty
Speaker 7: bulletproof too when I came to comedy at that point.
Speaker 1: Especially in those scenes, I was so you know.
Speaker 7: But then again when off camera, that's when he would
Speaker 7: just would have me rolling. I was a massive, like
Speaker 7: mega respect, you know for him. He's such a funny,
Speaker 7: such a funny guy.
Speaker 6: I mean, he's one of the He's arguably, if I
Speaker 6: had to go back and think of the complexity that
Speaker 6: is Blake Clark, he might be truly.
Speaker 1: One of the most interesting human beings I've ever met
Speaker 1: in my life.
Speaker 6: Yeah, sure, because when you hear the stories that he
Speaker 6: had from back when you was a soldier compared to
Speaker 6: then starting as a comedian stand up I mean you're
Speaker 6: just sitting there and where he was raised, in the
Speaker 6: life he was raised. You walk away going like that
Speaker 6: is truly one of the most interesting human beings I've
Speaker 6: ever met. It was, Yeah, for sure, amazing, amazing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, Yeah, he's super cool. Yeah, stories were unbelievable.
Speaker 6: Do you do you remember was there ever a conversation
Speaker 6: that we had with anybody at any time anywhere where
Speaker 6: you and I? They told us we were gonna be
Speaker 6: paired up where it was going to kind of Okay,
Speaker 6: this is your new buddy and now it's going to
Speaker 6: be Jack and Eric. I don't remember that ever happening,
Speaker 6: do you No, I don't remember that.
Speaker 1: The only thing.
Speaker 7: The thing that I remember was when they were going
Speaker 7: to bring a female counterpart into.
Speaker 6: Our So you do you remember you remember a conversation
Speaker 6: about that you were there?
Speaker 5: What?
Speaker 1: I don't remember this at all? What happened? We were
Speaker 1: talking about what happened?
Speaker 7: You were there, and I know because they were they
Speaker 7: were they were it was like the week before and
Speaker 7: uh it was we were pulled aside saying, hey, we
Speaker 7: want to add in you know, this female counterpart for
Speaker 7: you guys to have this tug and pull and then
Speaker 7: and they're gonna have a casting session, want you guys
Speaker 7: to come up?
Speaker 1: Remember we walked up there? No, I remember this at all.
Speaker 1: We went to Maitland's casting session. Yes, yes, absolutely.
Speaker 7: It was like it was like, you know, it was
Speaker 7: one of those moments as an actor where you're like, man,
Speaker 7: maybe I finally have arrived.
Speaker 1: I'm going to casting sessions and I've already got the
Speaker 1: job too.
Speaker 2: You on the other side, right, So you were sitting
Speaker 2: there and and yeah, yeah we were that was that?
Speaker 1: Remember that at all? Oh? I'm sure it did. I
Speaker 1: don't remember that even slightly.
Speaker 6: And and I would love to figure out who else
Speaker 6: was there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, so funny.
Speaker 3: Okay, So going back to exactly kind of what we
Speaker 3: were talking about, with the different relationship between Sean and
Speaker 3: Jack and then Eric and Jack, we would absolutely be
Speaker 3: remiss and are some of our listeners would be very
Speaker 3: upset with me if I didn't talk to you about
Speaker 3: something that Will has brought up before, which is that
Speaker 3: Eric seemed to be the character with the biggest heart,
Speaker 3: seemed to understand relationships better than most. We did a
Speaker 3: whole episode where he was giving all the different guys
Speaker 3: advice and yet is the only care to not have
Speaker 3: a real relationship on the show. And there are a
Speaker 3: lot of people who are a big fan and a
Speaker 3: believer of the idea that somewhere in some universe Jack
Speaker 3: and Eric were maybe secretly in love.
Speaker 4: They have a nickname Jeric.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this has.
Speaker 7: Popped up on my Instagram feed. Yeah, it's like if
Speaker 7: this show was made now, these two guys that wouldn't
Speaker 7: have been buddies, they would have been a couple.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, what do you think about that?
Speaker 7: I don't think that genuinely was any aspect involved in
Speaker 7: in our totally totally was a like a a bromance
Speaker 7: in a in a platonic way, platonic way.
Speaker 1: Totally. I think that when it comes to you and
Speaker 1: why I think.
Speaker 7: Your character worked so darn well, is that because this
Speaker 7: this is a is a very real fact in normal life.
Speaker 7: A lot of the times, the people that have the
Speaker 7: best advice.
Speaker 1: For others are the ones that have the worst advice
Speaker 1: for themselves. It's like I can be.
Speaker 7: Your therapist, but I can't tell myself that I make
Speaker 7: all the mistakes. And that's why I'm so good at
Speaker 7: giving people advice. And it's also the yin and the
Speaker 7: yang of when it hits you out of a guy
Speaker 7: who usually comes in with the really funny, comedic kind
Speaker 7: of you know, airheady type comedy and then hits you
Speaker 7: with the truth that to me is like the best
Speaker 7: you can't deliver. It's like wrapping you know, the good
Speaker 7: stuff up in a donut. You know, it's like wrapping
Speaker 7: broccoli up in a donut. It's like you can't get
Speaker 7: people to eat and consume good stuff better than it
Speaker 7: being delivered by your character. So in that way, it
Speaker 7: really worked for me, you know, one percent, because that's
Speaker 7: a very real thing too. It's actually a very grounded
Speaker 7: thing that is about your character is that yes, you
Speaker 7: can give the best advice about others, but for yourself,
Speaker 7: you know, you're possible.
Speaker 6: There is also a little bit of the nice guy
Speaker 6: finishes last. Yeah, Eric was always the nice guy, especially
Speaker 6: towards the end. I was a little overweight, and I
Speaker 6: was just the nice guy. And there is unfortunately kind
Speaker 6: of that, Hey, that guy doesn't always end up with
Speaker 6: somebody right away, or you know, you really have to
Speaker 6: search to find the right person as opposed to just
Speaker 6: women throwing themselves at you.
Speaker 1: So yeah, there's something there to that as well.
Speaker 2: All right, let's let's let's talk about clothing, because they
Speaker 2: brought up I was watching these episodes, these early episodes
Speaker 2: that you're in, and you were wearing gigantic clothing, which
Speaker 2: I was like, why, Matt is like the most fit dude?
Speaker 2: It doesn't And then Danielle was but it wasn't you
Speaker 2: said that and I kind of was like, oh yeah,
Speaker 2: but actually, Matt, I mean, we used to make a
Speaker 2: very fitted shirt because he wore.
Speaker 1: Very fitted T shirts.
Speaker 6: He was ahead of the head of a fitted T shirts,
Speaker 6: para jeans, pair of shoes, and.
Speaker 1: To the point where we like it became like a
Speaker 1: running joke.
Speaker 2: It was like, Matt, you are so well dressed, and
Speaker 2: we we called him a pretty boy to his face,
Speaker 2: and it was like a point of contention. We gave
Speaker 2: each other a lot of it on the set and
Speaker 2: in retrospect, like do you remember like making a conscious
Speaker 2: choice or having any input on the wardrobe or was
Speaker 2: the wardrobe just out of your control or did it
Speaker 2: feel like do you have any comments?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I do, I do.
Speaker 7: I So the the getting in shape thing happened right
Speaker 7: at the end the break between the first season. I
Speaker 7: was on the show with You Guys, and the next
Speaker 7: and the second season I was on You Guys, which
Speaker 7: would have been between five and six, I actually started
Speaker 7: to go to a gym and change things. Here's where
Speaker 7: it comes from, guys. I was actually always a very skinny,
Speaker 7: underweight kid, very skinny. Like my nickname was envelope boy
Speaker 7: because when you turned me to the side.
Speaker 1: You can see me.
Speaker 4: Oh geezh, Boy's a terrible name.
Speaker 1: I know everybody there to live you.
Speaker 7: Yeah, So I started doing that in my own life.
Speaker 7: I love that fashion was big, baggy clothes in that era, yeah,
Speaker 7: which has actually come back around another topic, thank god,
Speaker 7: a baggy clothes because they would cover my I would
Speaker 7: wear layers upon layers. So when I got there, my
Speaker 7: only thing was I didn't really have an input when
Speaker 7: it comes to what the stuff was.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 7: I just said, I want him big and baggy. I don't.
Speaker 1: Okay, wow. Now flash forward to the next season.
Speaker 7: I come in, I probably throw the wardrobe people at
Speaker 7: big curvebalgs and.
Speaker 1: Like only tight, I'm going off off in the gym. Okay,
Speaker 1: so that's what I'm remembering. I remember next season, so
Speaker 1: we'll see, okay, cool.
Speaker 2: Yes, Well, because became super fashionable, and I remember like realizing,
Speaker 2: I was like, wow, you know, because we're working together
Speaker 2: every day. And I remember at some point realizing I've
Speaker 2: never seen Matt wear the same clothes twice. Like you
Speaker 2: were well dressed, and you had like you had a closet.
Speaker 2: You were like, you know, fashionable in a way.
Speaker 1: That I was not until my thirties for Christ's sake.
Speaker 2: But like back then you were like way like into
Speaker 2: it and you looked great. But in the show, I'm like,
Speaker 2: why is it wearing all these baggy clothes?
Speaker 1: Okay, that makes sense. Yeah, that's what it was.
Speaker 7: And when it comes to the wardrobe thing, you know,
Speaker 7: I had an older brother who had set a real standard.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, set the bis like the bar a little high.
Speaker 1: So like I had, I'll never forget it.
Speaker 7: I had maybe a dresser of things that I would
Speaker 7: wear like with just when I was either doing around
Speaker 7: the house or going out for but to work, I
Speaker 7: had a whole other like closet that was just work
Speaker 7: close to work clothes and like costumes and anything I
Speaker 7: could pull. It was like a big you know wardrobe
Speaker 7: backlot almost. So that's that's where that came from. It
Speaker 7: wasn't like and again now you would see me again
Speaker 7: with podcasting, I have to have like a rack.
Speaker 1: But outside of that, like I you're a white you
Speaker 1: sure guy, Yeah, I'm a jeans and teacher. Like I'm
Speaker 1: a very minimalist.
Speaker 7: So it's just because of what we do that I
Speaker 7: kind of look at as like a costume department.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well we've mentioned the Witches of Penbrook, which was a
Speaker 3: big Jack Romp episode and we had a very high
Speaker 3: profile ninety sitcom guest star Kandas Cameron who played your
Speaker 3: love interest huh and Melissa General. Yeah, but Melissa didn't
Speaker 3: work with right mat But but you know Candace did.
Speaker 3: Do you remember Candace being there? And you know, was
Speaker 3: that a lot of pressure?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 7: It was mainly because you know, I mean we had
Speaker 7: to kiss and stuff. Yeah, it's like, you know, bubble
Speaker 7: gum and mints, and you're like conscious about what all
Speaker 7: this is going to be. And she was obviously, you know,
Speaker 7: someone I had, you know, in a way sort of
Speaker 7: grown up watching as well. So yeah, sure there was
Speaker 7: that there and she was very sweet and then when
Speaker 7: I saw that she was a little nervous, it made
Speaker 7: me feel better, Like I was like, Okay, we're both
Speaker 7: a little nervous here, we're in the same boat.
Speaker 1: So you know, it made a little a little better.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Told us she was she felt a little weird because
Speaker 3: she wasn't kissing Joey because she knew Joey.
Speaker 7: Yeah remember, Yeah, I'm sure actually because yeah, they were
Speaker 7: in a sense more, I was like a younger brother.
Speaker 1: In that, right, And that's what she said.
Speaker 3: She was like, I remember being like I thought I
Speaker 3: would have kissed Joey first.
Speaker 7: Yeah, for sure, Yeah, I remember that.
Speaker 1: I remember that being interesting.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So did your family used to come to tape nights?
Speaker 3: How did your parents split up their support since you
Speaker 3: guys were all taping things at the same time.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, No, they came to a bunch.
Speaker 7: It would always be uh, it would always be one
Speaker 7: or both of my parents or or maybe towards the
Speaker 7: end there actually was. I was a little bit more
Speaker 7: on my own. It was by choice.
Speaker 1: I kind of like that.
Speaker 7: I was like growing up and like doing my own thing.
Speaker 7: But yeah, they were always my mom, of course, you.
Speaker 1: Know she was.
Speaker 7: She would have we'd get into arguments. Can I please
Speaker 7: be in the audience this week?
Speaker 1: You're like, mom, come on.
Speaker 7: When I go out there, I don't want to you know,
Speaker 7: and I want to see my mom come on.
Speaker 1: You know, looking back, I'm like, of.
Speaker 7: Course, all I want to do is you know, see
Speaker 7: how how great is that to be able to have
Speaker 7: your mom in the audience.
Speaker 1: But you know, when you're going through those teen years,
Speaker 1: you're like kind of want to just be on my own. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 6: And then when I when I did your podcast, I
Speaker 6: asked Joe about that.
Speaker 1: So I was like, I didn't.
Speaker 6: Think you liked me at all and you never came
Speaker 6: to the show. And he's like, well, I did that
Speaker 6: on purpose because it was Matt show. He's like, I
Speaker 6: didn't want to be the guy sitting there. It's true,
Speaker 6: you know with my following in fandom, when it's like
Speaker 6: this is my brother's show, this is his chance. He's like,
Speaker 6: so that was that was done on purpose? Like, okay,
Speaker 6: I still was he liked me, But that's that's the
Speaker 6: whole different story.
Speaker 7: No, no, no, no, no, no, no not at all, no, no, there,
Speaker 7: it was never never liked that. Uh so he yeah,
Speaker 7: he was, you know, he was like it's like a
Speaker 7: mini pop star. Wherever he went, there was a wake.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I actually really appreciated that he respected that wake. Yeah,
Speaker 7: and and no matter where if he crawls intersected my
Speaker 7: life in some way or another, the wake and you
Speaker 7: know just what it was at that point for him,
Speaker 7: you know, So I I really, I really respected that.
Speaker 7: And then he also respected the fact that he saw,
Speaker 7: probably for the first time outside of our family dynamic,
Speaker 7: that I was connecting with another comedic actor, and.
Speaker 1: He was very respectful of that.
Speaker 7: So it was it was just more of a respect
Speaker 7: for the for our situation versus I'm not liking him. Yeah,
Speaker 7: it wasn't like that at all. Yeah, but I understand
Speaker 7: that people always said that about me too, Like I
Speaker 7: don't know if you guys, uh, well, of course you
Speaker 7: remember this, but when in Sync kept coming over to
Speaker 7: the set, and uh, I found out years later when
Speaker 7: I bumped into Justin that he thought I was not
Speaker 7: very nice.
Speaker 1: He didn't like me, and he flat out told me
Speaker 1: to my face.
Speaker 7: I went up to him and I was like, dude,
Speaker 7: you're because justified it like just coming out like a saw.
Speaker 1: Record and I was a huge fan.
Speaker 7: I didn't have any recollection of this, and he was like,
Speaker 7: oh yeah, yeah, Now you want to be friends with me?
Speaker 1: You were so mean on the set.
Speaker 4: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: I was like.
Speaker 7: And then just shy, right, or I was super shy.
Speaker 7: And also I had, you know, kind of a crush
Speaker 7: on Yeah, and these guys kept rolling up on set
Speaker 7: like trying to hit.
Speaker 2: On just around Danielle and constant which one of them?
Speaker 1: Which one of them?
Speaker 3: I was wondering if you were going to say it?
Speaker 3: I was like why he was probably a little stand off.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember us guys would always be like these dudes,
Speaker 2: Oh my god. We would watch Danielle like completely ignore
Speaker 2: all of us would lose our sister, lose her, and
Speaker 2: we'd be like, god, she's so she totally changes around them.
Speaker 2: She just totally changes exactly exactly.
Speaker 6: Also had a one in five chance, and hey, let's
Speaker 6: be honest with the pick here.
Speaker 1: I mean, come on.
Speaker 7: She changed.
Speaker 3: Security knowing nothing was gonna happen.
Speaker 1: Bloomer the safest guy in the bunch.
Speaker 7: So I didn't get a chance to explain that to him,
Speaker 7: But that's what was going on.
Speaker 6: The thing I remember is you and I one time
Speaker 6: Matt were hanging out. It was it must have been
Speaker 6: season seven, Like they just had the baby whenever the
Speaker 6: baby happened on the show, because at one point there
Speaker 6: was they gave us the baby the doll.
Speaker 1: I remember that and Justin I think it was Justin
Speaker 1: and Joey were there.
Speaker 6: I forget who it was, but I was just playing
Speaker 6: with a doll and putting the cigarette in its mouth
Speaker 6: and then like making it cough and like doing it.
Speaker 6: Justin just look at me, went, are you actually crazy?
Speaker 1: I don't think so.
Speaker 4: He's like, dude, just insane.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, this is what we do, this is
Speaker 1: our day work.
Speaker 3: Well, we recently watched the a very Topanga Christmas episode,
Speaker 3: which I remembered precisely zero of until we got to
Speaker 3: the scene where we kissed, and then I was like, wait,
Speaker 3: I do remember this episode.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 3: The fact that we kissed briefly in that episode kind
Speaker 3: of startled all of us at first, because you first
Speaker 3: see us and we just hug and I thought, oh,
Speaker 3: of course, no kiss, because they wouldn't have Topanga do that.
Speaker 4: And then like two seconds later we're kissing. Whoa, there
Speaker 4: is a kiss.
Speaker 3: So do you remember any of the any of the
Speaker 3: behind the scenes of this scene. You had already obviously
Speaker 3: kissed Candice Cameron Beret.
Speaker 4: So it wasn't.
Speaker 3: Too big of a deal for you, But do you
Speaker 3: remember anything about that episode?
Speaker 7: Yes, and the fact that, yeah, that the fact that
Speaker 7: I was going to be doing that I think was
Speaker 7: the big the big deal you know.
Speaker 1: That was uh, that was yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 7: It took up all of my thought process on that
Speaker 7: that episode because you know, I mean, yeah, I genuinely
Speaker 7: thought you were white the gale oh and so.
Speaker 1: Yeah and uh yeah, and it's funny.
Speaker 7: I don't know, I'm sorry, I'm getting like Twitty's Yeah.
Speaker 7: The one thing I do remember where you had wonderful lips.
Speaker 1: Oh, thanks, that was the one memory.
Speaker 7: I remember going like, wow, possibly the most wonderful lips
Speaker 7: I will ever wow.
Speaker 5: Thank you.
Speaker 6: Quite a compliment and also one of the best comedic
Speaker 6: lines right before when you walk in and you just
Speaker 6: got true and you're like, look, I know that I
Speaker 6: don't know you very well, but thanks for marrying me,
Speaker 6: because that's all.
Speaker 1: Great. It's so funny.
Speaker 3: There's another scene earlier where you're like, I don't really
Speaker 3: know her, and then you mentioned it again.
Speaker 4: You're like, maybe y'all get to know her, but I
Speaker 4: don't know.
Speaker 1: It's just you're like I might get to know her.
Speaker 1: Am I not all right?
Speaker 5: Bargaing on?
Speaker 6: Guys, My god, how thick are your glasses? I just
Speaker 6: saw the past.
Speaker 7: Oh I literally I can't see the screen, Like, yeah,
Speaker 7: really strong.
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, it's so funny. So I do want
Speaker 4: to know.
Speaker 3: In relationship to that episode, when was your prom? Because
Speaker 3: I was your prom date, which was such a fun evening.
Speaker 3: We posted a picture. We posted a picture of us,
Speaker 3: and everyone was like, wait a minute, did they get married?
Speaker 3: And my dress, my prom dress did very much look
Speaker 3: like a wedding dress. And I told that story. When
Speaker 3: I saw the picture, it reminded me. Remember I was
Speaker 3: telling you that story. We told it a live show
Speaker 3: about like at some point I came out and I
Speaker 3: was in a wedding dress and you said, I do
Speaker 3: quiet land your breath. It wasn't a wedding dress. It
Speaker 3: was when I first came out in my palm dress.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's what it was.
Speaker 3: I remember, That's what it was. Yeah, for sure, that
Speaker 3: was so that all then clicked. When I saw the picture,
Speaker 3: I was like, wait, that's what the memory was. So
Speaker 3: where was this a very topanga Christmas? In relationship to
Speaker 3: your prom. What year was that? So this was we
Speaker 3: were about seven. When was your prom?
Speaker 1: Ninety eight?
Speaker 4: Ninety eight, okay, ninety eight proms? So we were we
Speaker 4: were still months ag away from you.
Speaker 6: Know at that time in California, you wearing that dress
Speaker 6: and him saying, I do you're legally married?
Speaker 1: Did you not know that?
Speaker 3: Somebody tell Jenson, We've got to get someone in here
Speaker 3: to a know this.
Speaker 1: Jeez, that's crazy. Good times.
Speaker 3: We also recently recapped Last Tango in Philly, which has
Speaker 3: a very viral dance.
Speaker 4: Scene at the end.
Speaker 3: It seems to make the rounds online every few months,
Speaker 3: and everyone always pointed to you as being the skilled dancer.
Speaker 3: When we watched the episode, we were like, you're the one.
Speaker 3: You can actually come on, you're incredible. Oh that's very sweet.
Speaker 7: No, I mean I I honestly watched that thing and
Speaker 7: that was still krims worthy for me. What yeah, oh yeah,
Speaker 7: wearing guys.
Speaker 4: I don't remember what you're wearing, but I know I.
Speaker 1: Think I was like a leathers so I don't know.
Speaker 7: I literally couldn't look at it any longer.
Speaker 1: I was like, I can't watch this.
Speaker 6: You're where You're the only one I can watch because
Speaker 6: the rest of us dancing, not Bill's good myself.
Speaker 1: Oh my solo moment. I was very enjoyable. Actually, it
Speaker 1: was very funny and enjoyable. I did like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a cool episode.
Speaker 7: You know, I love the I love the writing, the
Speaker 7: way that they you know, turned around men don't dance
Speaker 7: and men in a relationship and that was great though.
Speaker 7: It was a really well written episode, you know, very lighthearted,
Speaker 7: but very well grafted.
Speaker 1: You know, yes, it was.
Speaker 4: It's very cute.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So you guys just did your first live podcast recently,
Speaker 3: and I know you're going to be going out to
Speaker 3: nineties Consume with Joe and Andy. Has it been fun
Speaker 3: reconnecting with fans in person.
Speaker 7: Absolutely. Yeah, it's a whole different experience now when you
Speaker 7: open up and you do these sort of podcast type
Speaker 7: of things, it really changes the whole the dynamic and
Speaker 7: the narrative with your fans in particular. And that's been
Speaker 7: the best part about it is it it's it's sort.
Speaker 1: Of like, you know that you reconnect with the community
Speaker 1: that you almost didn't.
Speaker 7: You sort of forget that you have, you know, it's weird,
Speaker 7: and and then you realize there's this community around you know, you.
Speaker 1: Guys and you're all together.
Speaker 7: It's not like you're here and there there, it's like
Speaker 7: you all kind of grew up in this process or
Speaker 7: watching it.
Speaker 1: And it's really cool, it really is. It's nice.
Speaker 7: And you'll never get that with anybody else, you know,
Speaker 7: you can't. You can only grow up with somebody once.
Speaker 7: That's the that's the only one time thing. And so
Speaker 7: there's a connection you have with you know, these type
Speaker 7: of people that you'll never be able to have with
Speaker 7: anybody else.
Speaker 1: So it's super cool.
Speaker 4: What is the Brotherly Love live show?
Speaker 7: Like?
Speaker 4: I want to know what what do you what do
Speaker 4: you guys do with your live show?
Speaker 1: Well, there's a lot of there's a lot of singing.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of are you singing? Do you sing?
Speaker 1: But I haven't heard you sing like by yourself on stage.
Speaker 1: I think it's a huge fear. I have huge fear.
Speaker 1: I did this one.
Speaker 7: I had this one Broadway audition where it was a
Speaker 7: big it was a big auditions for they were bringing
Speaker 7: it was cry Baby, remember that Johnny Depp movie Baby
Speaker 7: bringing it to bro and it was I think Atwater
Speaker 7: and all these great people and they brought me to
Speaker 7: New York, and I had no idea.
Speaker 1: I had no idea what I was up against.
Speaker 7: Guys. I had practiced the song, I knew the words,
Speaker 7: I could sing it, but I didn't practice it with
Speaker 7: a pianist or an orchestra.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and that was part of your audition.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 7: It was the biggest bomb I've ever had on stage
Speaker 7: because the pianist.
Speaker 1: And that's fine.
Speaker 7: I should have been able to if I'd worked with
Speaker 7: the pianist. You know, they'll they'll put in the harmonies
Speaker 7: and they'll put in their own inflections and then the
Speaker 7: orchestra's going.
Speaker 1: I didn't know where I was in the song. I
Speaker 1: mean I was lost.
Speaker 7: I couldn't get through it to the point where I
Speaker 7: was like, wait, let me try again. They were like no, thank.
Speaker 1: You, No, you got the hook.
Speaker 7: And there they had brought in all these famous faces
Speaker 7: to kind of watch, like I see like David Letterman
Speaker 7: and I'm.
Speaker 1: Like, oh no, And.
Speaker 7: The guys before me like washed it, I mean knocked
Speaker 7: it out of the park to like a roaring applause.
Speaker 1: It was happening. I would have cast him and he
Speaker 1: was phenomenal. Anyway, after that, it was the last time
Speaker 1: I sung.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you were like, I'm not doing that on stage.
Speaker 7: I walked the entire island of Manhattan before I could
Speaker 7: go back to my hotel.
Speaker 1: The worst stage experience I've ever had in my life.
Speaker 1: So I'm sorry.
Speaker 6: Dude.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks for bringing up brighter. So I've heard you sing.
Speaker 1: I know you can sing, so you should have no
Speaker 1: insecurity about it. Man. That's that's that's an extreme experience.
Speaker 1: That was extreme. That was terrible.
Speaker 4: Okay, so the there's a lot of singing. What do
Speaker 4: you guys do you guys break things apart? Do you do?
Speaker 4: You propose a topic and then the three of you
Speaker 4: guys discuss it. What's what does it look look?
Speaker 7: Well, we have like we kind of do it like
Speaker 7: like a little variety show in the sense that you
Speaker 7: have like an opening monologue and then we'll break down
Speaker 7: into shows well, answer questions. We'll bring up someone out
Speaker 7: of the audience and you know, have them, you know,
Speaker 7: be a guest for a second. Do stuff like that,
Speaker 7: you know, try to keep it the audience involved as
Speaker 7: best as possible.
Speaker 1: Actually kind of learned that from you guys. You guys
Speaker 1: had this in the Get Up the Kids and Dance tours.
Speaker 1: You guys had the costume party.
Speaker 7: I thought that was a really clever idea to get
Speaker 7: you know, you know, fan involvement. So we don't do
Speaker 7: anything like that, but we do bring up people and
Speaker 7: we talk and sometimes we'll have a guest. We had
Speaker 7: a guest on that live show for a minute as well.
Speaker 7: And yeah, kind of have like a you know, a
Speaker 7: more broadened out podcast, you know, live where we'll do
Speaker 7: some more songs if we like. On our podcast, we
Speaker 7: will break into stuff. But if we break into a song,
Speaker 7: we'll actually break into a song, and any will whip
Speaker 7: out his guitar and do stuff like that.
Speaker 1: So I think we should do that. We should steal that.
Speaker 1: We should we should break into song. The three guys
Speaker 1: do it please, I'll I'll bring out a guitar.
Speaker 4: I don't know how to play it out.
Speaker 3: I think, are the three of you looking to make
Speaker 3: stuff together? Are you making anything together.
Speaker 4: Outside of the podcast? Are you guys working on projects?
Speaker 1: We are.
Speaker 7: We're always working on stuff, always always writing stuff, always
Speaker 7: trying to throw stuff up against the wall.
Speaker 1: We have a couple of movies we have written.
Speaker 7: One it's closer to being made, the others just very
Speaker 7: pre just have an idea and a kind of an outline.
Speaker 1: We're working on a show. We have some other.
Speaker 7: Ideas that we're throwing up there constantly. It's it's this
Speaker 7: place has turned into just a constant workflow. There's constantly
Speaker 7: people in and out, constantly things being written or shot,
Speaker 7: and it's super cool that way.
Speaker 1: It keeps me very.
Speaker 7: Busy, which is great because yeah, I gotta stay busy otherwise.
Speaker 1: Your mind starts going yeah crazy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Well.
Speaker 3: We have loved seeing you finally getting comfortable and really
Speaker 3: settling into season five with us. It has been so
Speaker 3: much fun right off the bat. We are going to
Speaker 3: need you to swing by again before.
Speaker 1: You guys anytime. I love it.
Speaker 7: It's like catching up with you guys at lunch, which
Speaker 7: we should also do.
Speaker 4: I know we should do that too. Well, Listen, we
Speaker 4: are welcome to go on your show.
Speaker 1: You're coming on.
Speaker 7: I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm reaching out please, And then
Speaker 7: I'm going to have our production coordinator who is my
Speaker 7: cousin everything in directions and time.
Speaker 3: I've been there, Will and Ile carpool so perfect, that'll
Speaker 3: save a parking space.
Speaker 1: Excellent. We love it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't wait. We can't wait to be a
Speaker 3: guest on your show. Thank you so much back here.
Speaker 1: So good to you as a guys. Be well, I
Speaker 1: love you all so much.
Speaker 7: Yeah, let's see each other so yeah, definitely, I love it, guys.
Speaker 4: Ohn him.
Speaker 1: He's the worst. He really is. I don't like that.
Speaker 4: It's just like.
Speaker 3: Pulling teeth to talk about anything. Man. So much fun,
Speaker 3: so so so much fun. And it's funny, like how
Speaker 3: you know the way he mentioned what was the memory
Speaker 3: he brought up that he kind of remembered the other
Speaker 3: the other side of it where we were like.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and it did.
Speaker 3: It fully helped form another picture for me of Allan Myerson.
Speaker 3: I very much remember now Matt and I having conversations
Speaker 3: where he was like, I'm the new kid here. I
Speaker 3: can't be saying to him. I can't be saying to
Speaker 3: Alan Myerson, hey man, why are you talking to us
Speaker 3: that way?
Speaker 4: He's like, I'm I'm brand new.
Speaker 1: But the irony there is that Alan was brand new. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know none that I know.
Speaker 2: He didn't, and I think I think that's part of
Speaker 2: the problem is that he thought, oh, this guy is
Speaker 2: in charge and I have to listen to him.
Speaker 1: But the reality is he kind of wasn't he was
Speaker 1: new well, you know, yeah, but I didn't have a
Speaker 1: conflict with him.
Speaker 2: I know I didn't either very positive memories of it too,
Speaker 2: because along.
Speaker 1: Very well too.
Speaker 2: But in retrospect, his directing style was probably too authoritarian
Speaker 2: for most actors. Yeah, yeah, and you can tell. You
Speaker 2: can tell by the performances, the comfort level.
Speaker 6: Again, I'm going to find that clip. I'm going to
Speaker 6: find that clip that's the end of news Radio where
Speaker 6: you clearly see him coming in and directing somebody and
Speaker 6: it's like it just brought me right back to it.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, please send that to us. I didn't really
Speaker 3: want to see that. Thank you all for joining us
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