1 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:20,799 Speaker 1: What's going on y'all? 2 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 2: Welcome back to No Fouls Given, presented by Prize Picks 3 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 2: on Big Wise as always, joined by the two NBA 4 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 2: legends to my right and to my left, Paul. 5 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: Pierce Danny Green. Welcome back to another show, y'all. 6 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 2: Sir, the energy we Boston hat No, no, no, no, this 7 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 2: is this is Brooklyn. 8 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: This is Brooklyn. Boklyn is a Brooklyn Dodgers joint. 9 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. 10 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 2: I would never put Boston on my body. I can't 11 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 2: skin with the incinerate like a New York Yeah. 12 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, this is a New York thing. 13 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 2: There will never be a Massachusetts related not even like 14 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 2: Martha Vineyard or anything like that. 15 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 3: We can't drink wine up can't even drink wine up 16 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 3: there too. 17 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, to here we Go. 18 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 2: Wouldn't be an episode of No Fouls Given without some 19 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 2: Boston propaganda. 20 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: But hey, man, I. 21 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 3: Feel it feels like we've been stirring up some Yeah, 22 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 3: you know you've been stirring. We gotta get to this, 23 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 3: and I fully blame it's definitely you, bro. We got 24 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 3: to bring this to attention. 25 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 2: So before we get on the slate, we had a 26 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 2: segment a few episodes, a few episodes ago about Miles 27 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 2: Turner going on at the Analysis Podcast, and you know, 28 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 2: we kind of pulled up a quote of something he 29 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 2: had without context, without the context of something he had 30 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 2: to say about Halliburton, and I thought, you know, maybe 31 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 2: four months after the finals, you don't say like he 32 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 2: ain't really liked, Like maybe maybe not. Don't say that 33 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 2: for but you know whatever. But shouts to the Analysis 34 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 2: Podcast because they reached out to us and corrected the record. 35 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: Yes, before he. 36 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 2: Called him a studio gangster, he did say three positive 37 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 2: things about him first, So I guess that makes it 38 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 2: way better. 39 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 3: You are stretching it. Though you are stretching. It's crazy, 40 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 3: that's not what he did. Like you quoting right now 41 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 3: is not. 42 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 2: Anything like he didn't say studio like he. 43 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 3: Said he would bro Like the context is everything. Now 44 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 3: you got this man doing the policy, going back to 45 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,679 Speaker 3: Indiana and getting booed because you put the you put 46 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 3: the guess you put the gasoline on. 47 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: No, honestly, I thought it was kind of over the top. 48 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 3: The way the fans, Yeah, they out of pocket, the 49 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 3: way out of pocket. 50 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 4: The ten Years ten Years went to the finals and 51 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 4: went to the finals because of he supposed to get 52 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 4: his tribute standing ovation. Yeah, because you came out without 53 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 4: the context context and said he was you know, I 54 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 4: did not get this guy booed. 55 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 2: But I stand by that I said on that episode, 56 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 2: although we probably should have added the caveat that next. 57 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 3: Time, we bringing the clip to make nice because throw 58 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:28,519 Speaker 3: in there. Oh yeah he was while he's talking nice 59 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 3: about the guy, he just said, you know, he probably 60 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 3: won't say it in the street, but you know we 61 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 3: got us to back him up. 62 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, And then you know, I did kind of feel 63 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 2: bad because he was just like, yo, I spent a 64 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 2: lot of time on the trade block there, and like 65 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 2: it's definitely a human. 66 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 3: He was disappointed bro saying he's a little man. He 67 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 3: was expecting to come back with a warm welcome Indiana. 68 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 3: All right, and Wise, fuck that up. 69 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 2: Stand business, that's all all right, moving right along, We're 70 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:57,839 Speaker 2: gonna walk him down reviewing our fics. 71 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 3: Man, we'll have Philly man. Really, money was good, Wise, Yeah, 72 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 3: money was good. I looked at I got. 73 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: Money right there. 74 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 2: I got to pick Chicago, Chicago to win Chicago one. 75 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: That was a Paul pick. 76 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 2: I had MAXI going for less than twenty seven and 77 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 2: a half and Danny and Paul were like, no, I 78 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 2: changed the change for more. Danny was the only one 79 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:32,559 Speaker 2: that got it right. Uh, he had thirty nine forty. 80 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 2: He smoked that he is on an absolute tear. Joel 81 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 2: embiid more than eighteen and a half. Uh, we all 82 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 2: said more. 83 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 1: We all got that right. Next we had the Sons. 84 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 3: We are talking about that game though, bro oh yes, yes, 85 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 3: gotta talk about please, because again Josh Getty is on 86 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 3: another tear or two. He even though he was balling 87 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 3: last year, he's getting thirty point triple doubles like he 88 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 3: on his at the most improved. 89 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 5: Damn. 90 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 3: And this is without Kobe White. They had a twenty 91 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 3: four point comeback win. Is that I I stopped watching 92 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 3: the score. I want to put the kids asleep. Like 93 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 3: what I'm saying, go take a shower. In Chicago, they're 94 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 3: showing it. I'm they're showing more of it. Not like contention, 95 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 3: but they're gonna they're gonna be like like how Orlando 96 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 3: was last year. 97 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 2: They feel like they're gonna be at the bottom of 98 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 2: the East playoff situation likes. 99 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: I don't know about five seems like a stretch right 100 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: now to me. 101 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 2: They kind of gotta feel not exactly the same, but 102 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 2: they do remind me of Indiana from last year. 103 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 3: I think they'll be top five bro in the sense. 104 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 2: That they play so such a unique brand and it's 105 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 2: obviously just hard for teams to play against right now, 106 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 2: Like teams just aren't ready for what they're bringing. And 107 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 2: there's probably an element of underestimating these because they weren't. 108 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: Very good last year. But this is impressive. 109 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 4: Josh Study is your best player. How far can you 110 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 4: go right without Kobe? He's like, because he's a good player, 111 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 4: but unproven. I mean, he's kind of been a journey man. 112 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 4: It was in uh okay, okay, see here, they didn't 113 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 4: want him. I mean I thought he always was good 114 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 4: and okay see too. 115 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: Though yeah, it's just a fit thing. He seemed like 116 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: they didn't really need what he brought to the team. 117 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 4: We have to warm up to Josh Giddy being one 118 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 4: of the best point guards in the East. If he 119 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 4: continues like this consistency, they got. 120 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 3: Something who's had a knight had a night. And again, 121 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 3: I don't think he's the best player. When Kobe White 122 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 3: comes back, you got and Kobe White, and then. 123 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: Kobe White is the best player. I thought he was 124 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: their best. 125 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 3: Player, the best player. 126 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's certainly. I don't think last year he was 127 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 2: as good as Josh Giddy. 128 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: Is playing right now. 129 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 6: That's what I'm saying. 130 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: So that might have changed, but goddamn, he's. 131 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 3: A I can't believe they love game. I said, I 132 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 3: have Philly winning the game. It was up. I was like, Yo, 133 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 3: we're good. 134 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: And we know that's one of your horrific that you're watching. 135 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 3: Chicago did to them what they was doing to teams, 136 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 3: because Philly did that to Washington, they did it to Boston. 137 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 3: They came back like, I don't know that that fourth 138 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 3: quarter was bad for him? Man? Is that I turned 139 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 3: turned it for like twenty fifteen twenty minutes next, you know, 140 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 3: I mean, there's no way Chicago went that. 141 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: Dad won that. 142 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 2: Well, they're showing their team that's playing together a lot 143 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 2: of resilience. 144 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 3: They're on the map now. So if they continue to 145 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 3: win games, I'm saying top five. I think they get 146 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 3: top five of these. 147 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: I'm not going there with them going there. 148 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 3: Orlando looks not good. 149 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: Orlando has to turn it around. 150 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 3: And every Indianna's got injuries. They're not the same. Yeah, Cleveland, 151 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 3: New York, so coming up slowly, it's open. In the East, 152 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 3: it was wide over. I'm saying top five. 153 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 6: Really is it is? 154 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 4: Because think about this, we thought Cleveland and New York 155 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 4: is headed shoulders like it was them too, and it 156 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 4: was like, all right, the rest of y'all gonna fall 157 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 4: in line. Well, New York looks vulnerable, Cleveland look vulnerable. 158 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 4: So I'm just saying the door open, though I don't 159 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 4: know who coming out there. 160 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: I don't know who's gonna. 161 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 6: Win the East, Who's gonna be a top four seed. 162 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go out on the limb and say the 163 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 2: Bulls are not gonna win the East this year. 164 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 3: Like I don't think. I think they're gonna go. I 165 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 3: think they have a good chance of getting home court 166 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 3: advantage in the top four. But I say I said five, 167 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 3: so like I think they could be, they're gonna be. 168 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 3: They're gonna for sure be in the playoffs, not have 169 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 3: to be the player this year. 170 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 4: I'm gonna have to study them. I'm gonna have to 171 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 4: watch them. I'm not but you're not there yet. 172 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:33,439 Speaker 1: I love this style. 173 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 3: Though it's got everybody putching in it, Like I'm gonna 174 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 3: watch them and saying, everybody put in. 175 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,559 Speaker 2: They're believing in themselves. And I think that's one of 176 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,319 Speaker 2: the coolest things that you see in the league, when 177 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 2: a young team kind of catches something and everybody's playing 178 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 2: hard and it feels brand new and it feels playing free. 179 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 2: That's really cool. The Suns at the Warriors, Devin Booker 180 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:00,199 Speaker 2: more or less. 181 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: Than twenty eight and a half? All three of us 182 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: said less. Then Paul changed at the end and said more, 183 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:09,839 Speaker 1: and he ended up getting. 184 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 2: Thirty eight tonight. Let me get that in a blowout, 185 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 2: l but thirty eight. 186 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 4: Y'all want the truth picks the price Jimmy I heard 187 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 4: giving you the pp. 188 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 2: Picks playing into the into the third he only played 189 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 2: fourteen minute. Oh okay, he might have. He might have 190 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:29,839 Speaker 2: left the game early. Then, got you damn it, Jimmy. 191 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 2: So Jimmy Butler more or less than twenty and a half, 192 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 2: we both said more. 193 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: Paul said less. Yees do. 194 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:41,599 Speaker 6: Only lost one game. 195 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 3: Four? 196 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:47,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, come on, man, pretty good. 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He's putting the Bucks 236 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 2: on his back. Thirty two points per a game, twelve rebounds, 237 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:52,319 Speaker 2: six assists, sixty eight percent from the field. 238 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 3: I mean, did y'all leave him out of your top three? No? 239 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 3: I left Wemby out, Okay, you had Jannis in the. 240 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was crazy. 241 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 2: I don't like this for him, though, I wanted to 242 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 2: speak on that, because he's thirty years old. In his 243 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 2: age thirty season, he's looking like a clear cut MVP 244 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 2: kind of candidate, if not even favorite at the moment. 245 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 1: Do you think he can sustain this though over the 246 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: course of the season. 247 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 4: I think he can. I do think he can sustain this. 248 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:28,559 Speaker 4: But my concern, especially like over the last couple of 249 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 4: years he's dealt with injuries in the playoffs, that I 250 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 4: don't want him carrying this type of load all season 251 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 4: long just for them to make the playoffs, Like he 252 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:41,199 Speaker 4: needs more. When you start getting older and you've been 253 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 4: dominant for so long, you need people to take pressure off. Yes, 254 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 4: Like if you got to go out here and score 255 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 4: thirty five and thirteen and six and for y'all to win, 256 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 4: that's gonna be a tough every night for eighty two 257 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 4: or harvm ygaate say sixty five. 258 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 6: That's tough. 259 00:12:57,679 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 4: Your body is just gonna have so much wear and 260 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 4: tear on it, and then you don't even think about 261 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 4: the mental and physical grind of playoffs. 262 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 1: That's tough. 263 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 3: That's tough it is. But I will say the team 264 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 3: is better than what I expected him to be. And 265 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 3: even the game that he sat out against Gold and State, 266 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 3: they got a dub like Ryan Rounds who Cools is 267 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 3: showing like signs of Cole Anthony, Like they got some 268 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 3: guys pitching in like at moments. So if they can 269 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 3: continue to do that, AJ Green, if they can continue 270 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 3: to do that and he can play the level and 271 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 3: he can still get some Knights to rest, then he'll 272 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 3: be alright. But yes, of this whole season. 273 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 4: And one more thing, these numbers like Giannis puts up, 274 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 4: I mean not Gianni's, but the Joker puts up these 275 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 4: similar numbers. But the way he plays compared to Joker, 276 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 4: he plays with more reckless abandon throwing his body on 277 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 4: the defensive end. Offense, he's jumping over everybody, dunking on 278 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 4: where his Joker plays like he doesn't play above the rim. 279 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:53,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, so it just it just looks like, yeah, the 280 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: durability factor. 281 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 2: To me, that's the biggest thing. Because Giannice is one MVPs. 282 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 2: I don't think he needs to prove the people that 283 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 2: he's one of the best players it's ever played. You know, 284 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 2: he's put up numbers, he's had incredible stretches, he's had 285 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:07,959 Speaker 2: postseason success, and but you know, at the same time, 286 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 2: I think a superstar is supposed to. 287 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: Carry the burden. 288 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 2: But to me, it's like to what end, Like, what 289 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 2: is going to be the ultimate result of this I 290 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 2: think about I think it was the year right before 291 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 2: they drafted commingus, So the year right before Golden State 292 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 2: ended up going to the finals and winning it. 293 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: Like people. A reporter was asking Steve Kerr about like Steph. 294 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 2: Curry's pick and roll numbers, like he had great pick 295 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 2: and roll numbers, and Steve's like, yeah, we could go 296 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 2: out and play that way and maybe win, you know, 297 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 2: a few more games on the margin. Stephan have all 298 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 2: of these stats and all of that, but to what end, 299 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 2: Like this is not that type of team. Yeah, and 300 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 2: we're putting all of that on his body and to 301 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 2: do what right? 302 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: And so we'll see. 303 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 2: I think Giannis is the kind of guy he doesn't 304 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 2: know how to dollar back, like he's going to be 305 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 2: in this kind of attack moment for the whole season. 306 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 3: And he has to be honestly, yeah, he has to be. 307 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: But so just a little bit about the Raptors. 308 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 3: Uh balling or they are not balling that balling there 309 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 3: get you? 310 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I kind of I kind of slept on them, 311 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: especially in. 312 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 2: The off season because I didn't understand how brandon ingram and. 313 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 3: And it doesn't look like yeah RJ. 314 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 2: And I'm like where where is how is this gonna work? 315 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 2: But they're not moving the ball and letting that thing 316 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 2: fly from three, and they're super athletic, and I like 317 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 2: what Quickly is doing as well. They're playing way better 318 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:30,479 Speaker 2: than I thought they. 319 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 3: I gotta give credit to Darko. They got them, got 320 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 3: them playing. You know, I saw them preseason in Vancouver. 321 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 3: They were jumping the trap like they picking up full 322 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 3: court jump trap, like forcing turnovers against Denver. I'm mind 323 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 3: judis preseason, but yeah, to show that they're playing and 324 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 3: they getting you know, one through ten, like they're going 325 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 3: pretty deep, deep into the bench and some of those 326 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 3: guys are doing well, you know, so I could see 327 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 3: them being a team said that can sneak, But I 328 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 3: still think they do need shooting though. They're missing the 329 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 3: shit with with all piece that you mentioned, they are 330 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 3: lacking shooting aspect, and I think it's gonna come to 331 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 3: bite them at some point. 332 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, Scotty has been more of a willing shooter this 333 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 2: season than he's been in the past. Ingram too's like 334 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 2: not a bad shoot, you just never like letting the 335 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 2: three pointers fly. I think he's trying to make it 336 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 2: more of a concerned effort. But I like about with 337 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 2: Scotty and Ingram, especially in this game, they're just more 338 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 2: in their distributed bag than you typically expect them to be, 339 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 2: especially Ingram, So that's been pretty cool to see heating up. 340 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 2: As we continue on, the Heat of four and three 341 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 2: beat the brakes off the Clippers. 342 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: On Monday night. Quick fun fact, this is the first 343 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: time that he was. 344 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 3: Just thinking about some guys on it bro. 345 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 2: Nice close victory against the Clippers. Just a quick fun fact. 346 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 2: This is the first time the Clippers have excuse me, 347 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:08,679 Speaker 2: this is the first time the Heat have beaten Kawhi 348 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 2: Leonard since the twenty fourteen NBA Final. 349 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 3: Like ten years. 350 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, so san Antonio. 351 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 3: Again, he's missed a couple of years. 352 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,120 Speaker 1: Though he missed a couple of years, but once. 353 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 3: He's played unbelievable. 354 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what three separate teams, and tonight is the 355 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 2: first time they've beaten Kawhi Leonard and the Heat fans 356 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 2: got to see Kawhi Leonard l in ten years. 357 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 3: That's crazy. 358 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 2: Bam Outabayo had another just incredible night and to start 359 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 2: the season, he's kind of just been on a tear. 360 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 2: He's leading all centers and three pointers made, surprising, and 361 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 2: the Heat are playing at a top three level on defense, 362 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 2: which obviously he's the anchor of which is kind of crazy. 363 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 2: And I'm told by producer Chris that this might be 364 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 2: the a's. 365 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 3: Your effect, Angel Wilson effect. I think he said he'd. 366 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 2: Getting married as soon as he finished winning the finals. 367 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 1: He's determined to get married. That's why he's playing. 368 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 6: Whatever. 369 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: What do you think about that determination and. 370 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 6: Whatever inspires you. 371 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,679 Speaker 4: Obviously he's having a career in the year and the 372 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 4: bar is set high in his house because. 373 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, hell yeah, you. 374 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 4: Know you got FOV Like the bar is high over there, 375 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 4: so uh, you know, he can't let her completely outshining, 376 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:37,919 Speaker 4: So it's probably motivating him to go out there and 377 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 4: do you got to bring him dark? 378 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 3: I think it's been a little bit dark, but for 379 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 3: him to lead the centers and three being out there, 380 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 3: it's impressive. 381 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's he's he's making three thirty thirty six percent 382 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 2: clip decent volume. I'm I thinking the past has kind 383 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 2: of been the biggest knock on man and it's him 384 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 2: not being aggressive enough on offense, trying to look for 385 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 2: his own shot. 386 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: But he's doing more of that this year, which is dope. 387 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 3: I like the system, you know, with s normous out 388 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 3: he's back now, but with Tyler herro Bean out. They 389 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 3: have to do, they have to figure something out. They 390 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 3: don't have real star power without those two guys. So yeah, 391 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 3: it's more of a drive, kick less, pick and roll 392 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 3: type of game. You got guys like Fontech Yo Yo, 393 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 3: May hotkaz Jovich, Like, they're out there playing confident and 394 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 3: giving you good production, and they're in every one of 395 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 3: these games, if not winning something, but they're in these games. 396 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,719 Speaker 3: So they're playing at a like better than I expected. 397 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,199 Speaker 3: I thought Miami was gonna be trash to start the season, honestly, 398 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 3: I just. 399 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 2: I mean, you always got to have confidence in his ability. Yeah, 400 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 2: it's it's tough. Davion Mitchell, when he showed in the 401 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 2: playoffs last year, earned a nice little extension. He's always 402 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 2: been a great, like head of the snake defender type, 403 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 2: but the shot wasn't always consistent. But it's way more 404 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,360 Speaker 2: consistent now, Like in the playoffs is like this guy 405 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 2: was just making all of his open shots. 406 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 4: You're talking about Mitchell from Miami. Yeah, they made the 407 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:06,120 Speaker 4: playoffs last year. 408 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was It wasn't a long stint. 409 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 6: But yeah, who they play? 410 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 1: Who did they play? Yeah? 411 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 3: Got smoke? 412 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was that quick. It was it was 413 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 1: it was it was that. 414 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 3: It was ugly, bro, That's why you don't remember half 415 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 3: court shots on them consistently. 416 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:31,400 Speaker 4: I know they traded it, it got Jimmy out of there. 417 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 4: I just I just didn't notice them after Jimmy left. 418 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they were playing team, you know, playing 419 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 2: team for like the seventh year in a row. But yeah, 420 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 2: I just think bringing that group together is pretty impressive. 421 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 2: Just another miracle my coach and the Heat organization. I 422 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:51,439 Speaker 2: know we make fun of like Heat culture and all 423 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 2: of that stuff, but like you look at that roster, 424 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 2: like they shouldn't be that good. 425 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 6: Well, you know, early in the season still. 426 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 3: It's but before that they shouldn't have been. They were 427 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 3: talented enough to not be a playing team. 428 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: Is one of the. 429 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 4: Best coaches though, just hands down. I mean he just attest. 430 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 4: This is like this is what coaching really is. Like 431 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 4: he ain't got no superstar. He got an All Star, 432 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 4: bam is an All Star. But like, come on, we 433 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 4: can't even name I can't even name too many. 434 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 2: Guys on the and I think the cool thing is 435 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 2: like yours accomplishes him and you bring in a guy 436 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:32,120 Speaker 2: who Memphis just fired to come in and revamp your offense, 437 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 2: your power, empower a new dude, and you get the 438 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,479 Speaker 2: guys to buy into this new style and it's words. 439 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 2: That's pretty dope to say, Yeah for sure. All right now, 440 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 2: let's get to our Picks of the Night, presented by 441 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,400 Speaker 2: Prize Picks. I think we got a pretty good lineup. 442 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 2: Let's get right to it. The Spurs are playing the Lakers. 443 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 2: Uh going to be at that game. Actually want to 444 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 2: watch bro looking forward to my first Laker game of 445 00:21:59,720 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 2: the sea. 446 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: He's in Lakers this When. 447 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,959 Speaker 3: Is this game tomorrow night? Well tonight, it's tonight. 448 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:10,880 Speaker 1: Well, they don't know that we do a night show. 449 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 1: Well they know we up here early in the morning. 450 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 3: They don't know. 451 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 2: Lakers have won four straight very little consistency in the 452 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 2: line of the town. 453 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: Uh. 454 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 2: Wenby coming off his worst game of the season, so 455 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 2: you know he's gonna want to bounce back. Everybody gets 456 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 2: up to play the Lakers. Wenby one of the most 457 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 2: competitive guys like this guy has a just a nasty 458 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 2: competitive streak. I wouldn't be surprised if he's super duper keyed. 459 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:42,880 Speaker 1: Into this game. 460 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 2: So I'm really getting excited to see that in person, 461 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 2: and this might be my first n b A This 462 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 2: might be the first time I've seen him in the 463 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 2: NBA in person. 464 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not all star, which doesn't. 465 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 3: Count enjoy brother, it's gonna be. 466 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 2: It's gonna be excited to see that. So let's get 467 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 2: right into some of our picks. Luca more or less 468 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 2: than thirty. 469 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: Three and a half points. Last time he came back from. 470 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 3: He had a forty. He took a rest game. So 471 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:14,919 Speaker 3: I'm gonna say more. I'm gonna say. 472 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 1: Thirty three and a half. 473 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 3: Huh, Bro, he's averaging like thirty five. 474 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 2: Actually, agree with you. He's just he just looks so good, 475 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 2: so in command of his game right now, arrest like 476 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 2: thirty four points seems doable. 477 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 3: This is a night of the stars, bro, I'm expecting 478 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 3: the stars to show out. He's playing against Wenby. He's 479 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 3: gonna like, let it be known like I'm still that guy, 480 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 3: Like these are some of the top five players in 481 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 3: the league. Web gonna be the same, especially after a 482 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,439 Speaker 3: bad night, a bounce back game. I'm going more for 483 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 3: Wemby as well. Whatever more, more, more more for Luca. 484 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,360 Speaker 6: I've been rolling with my picks, y'all. 485 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: Less. 486 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 6: I'm just saying because. 487 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 4: Weinby is going to be in the middle of that 488 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 4: pick clogging it up and ain't gonna be nothing easy 489 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,160 Speaker 4: out there. And he coming off a bad game. Yeah 490 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 4: come on now, Yeah, he ain't given them. 491 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 1: And it's in. 492 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 5: Last la is where you really make your name, like 493 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 5: you coming to the to the to the crypto and 494 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 5: you have a big game that's gonna get talked about 495 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 5: for about a week for sure. 496 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 3: Now when we're gonna when we're gonna. 497 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 2: Do his whmb's out of more or less than twenty 498 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 2: seven and a half. 499 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely more more than twenty seven and a half. Again, 500 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 3: I think Luca, because he's smarter, he gonna get some 501 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 3: young guys in foul trouble. He's gonna get to the 502 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 3: free THROWNE got you, So both both of them, I'm going. 503 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 2: Less on the twenty seven and a half for I 504 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 2: think he's not gonna score. I just think, you know, 505 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 2: twenty eight, it's a nice it's a nice amount. 506 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 3: He probably gonna get like twenty six. 507 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 1: That's what I'm That's what I'm thinking, twenty five, twenty four. 508 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 1: I don't see the twenty eight. 509 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 2: Wemb more or less than twelve and a half rebounds. 510 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: More you too big? No, I like more the twenty rebounds. 511 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 2: Eight and like, these aren't just like you know, incredible Lakers, 512 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 2: aren't something credible offensive rebounding team. 513 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 1: DeAndre like though he's like he likes. 514 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 2: To shoot a lot of jumpers, it's not like he's 515 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,880 Speaker 2: super far from the He's gonna be pulling Wenby out. 516 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:10,159 Speaker 1: He likes mid ranges. 517 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 2: So when we're gonna get to be around the bass kids, 518 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 2: he should be able to get some rebounds. 519 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, definitely, So all three of us. 520 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 1: Are more more. 521 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 4: I'm more on Wemby in the points, and I'm more 522 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 4: with the rebounds. 523 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 6: But he keep playing against who are playing against the 524 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 6: and what's the name. 525 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,120 Speaker 1: Coming off a good game too, Yeah, his best game. 526 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 4: He's gonna be up for that. Yeah, for sure, he's 527 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:35,640 Speaker 4: gonna be up for that. He's gonna take some pride 528 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 4: in that. 529 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 3: He gonna get foul trouble man. I mean, I want 530 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 3: to see a good but Wemby again, he's he's smart, 531 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 3: but he's gonna be so like Yeah, and you know 532 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 3: Wemby's whom he's a guy. They're gonna be They're gonna 533 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 3: give him. They're gonna give him the calls. He's the 534 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 3: seven foot version of Lucas, Like Luca's gonna get some 535 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 3: fouls when he's gonna get some fouls. 536 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 4: And this is gonna be one of them games. It's 537 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 4: gonna be prime time to where you know the league 538 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 4: is watching this. Yes, they like, look, we need a 539 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 4: new face in the league. We can't let him look 540 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 4: bad at l. 541 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 3: A these two teams. 542 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,640 Speaker 1: Are you talking about the league office? 543 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 6: Absolutely? 544 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 2: I did you talk about just the guys in the 545 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 2: league is gonna want to watch a big game? 546 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 3: All the above, bro, all of the above got you 547 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 3: to the top teams in the West. Right now, this 548 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 3: is this is like first five and one, six five one, 549 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 3: five and one. Lakers are five and two. 550 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 6: This is major right now. 551 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 3: All right, Lucas having forty one. 552 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 6: By the way, Jess, no, he's not averaging forty one. 553 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 2: Forty one, averaging forty one forty one, Bro, Yeah, no, 554 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 2: he's averaging on the season forty one. 555 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 3: He's on He sat two games, he's played for forty 556 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 3: one forty one. He started he started with season like 557 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 3: he's a great people. He had like forty nine to 558 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 3: start the season. How many games he didn't play four, three, two. 559 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 3: Hold on, I did not know that. I gotta go 560 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 3: back to Oh no, he missed three, right, so okay, 561 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 3: miss three, so five and two. 562 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 4: And so the last time he missed the game, he 563 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 4: had forty forty four forty ye. 564 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 6: Hold on, man, I gotta rethink this. 565 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 1: I'm going more for Luca. Excuse me, We're going more 566 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:25,880 Speaker 1: for Luke. I'm going more for board. 567 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:27,879 Speaker 6: I'm changing it up. I'm going more for Luca. 568 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,120 Speaker 1: More his average forty one. 569 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 3: Bro, that's wild. 570 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 2: Next up, we got the heat at the Nuggets, a 571 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:39,360 Speaker 2: rematch of the twenty twenty three NBA Finals. Bam out 572 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 2: of Bio more or less than twenty and a half points. 573 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:44,679 Speaker 6: It's at the Nuggets. 574 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, so we're talking about Uh, they're going at Yokiic. 575 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 1: Good little altitude altitude Yokic. Denver. I can see Denver, 576 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 1: could see them a bunch of those BAM. 577 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go ahead him that less less less what 578 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 2: you got wise, I'm less, I'm less. 579 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 1: I'm going more less on this as well. 580 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 3: I think he gets up for these games because he's 581 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:07,640 Speaker 3: certain bigs. 582 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. 583 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 3: You seen him against one beat other night. Yeah, like 584 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:12,719 Speaker 3: he was like, all right, I'm gonna go at him. 585 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 3: I feel he's gonna do the same thing as jokers. 586 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: Gotcha, this is this is something. 587 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, I guess it makes sense, but that 588 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 4: altitude is killer. 589 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: It's killer. 590 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 3: And he young and shape yeah yeah, no, he's. 591 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 1: I mean, he's an impeccable talking about yeah, durable and 592 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 1: all of that stuff. I'm gonna go less. 593 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,199 Speaker 2: I just think the the amount of effort that you 594 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 2: gotta put in to trying to contain Joker and not 595 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 2: just that, trying to deal with the Joker and Murray 596 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 2: pick and roll game, like it's his job to literally 597 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 2: like fix that. So that's gonna take a lot. 598 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: Of that's gonna take a lot of physical. 599 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 3: So you predict them to pretty much get blown out. 600 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 1: No, it's not blown out. 601 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 3: It's just the only way in the game. If Bam 602 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 3: scores twenty more. 603 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: It's not. Now it's just to me. 604 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 2: I think Denver has the most well rounded, best offense 605 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 2: in the NBA for sure, and it's gonna be on 606 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 2: bad out of Bio to do something about it. 607 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:13,239 Speaker 4: Yeah, so much her health, there gonna be a lot 608 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 4: of isolation on come on, it's gonna be a lot. 609 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 2: It's gonna be a lot. So that's why I'm going less. 610 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 2: Now let's go to rebound. It's rebounds more or less 611 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 2: than seven and a half rebounds. 612 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: I'm going more. 613 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 3: Man, I think he gets up for these games. 614 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 4: Like he I'm gonna give him more rebounds a make 615 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:34,719 Speaker 4: up for the lack of points. 616 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 6: I can see him with a strong fourteen and fourteen times. 617 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, something like that. More more rebounds for me. 618 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 6: Rebounds, Yeah, strong double double. 619 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 2: That was our prize picks Picks of the night. He 620 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 2: thinks he's gonna get you guys paid, so yeah, let's see. 621 00:29:54,720 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 1: All right. So this this segment I'm really excited. 622 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 2: To with both of you guys, because it's not just 623 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 2: because it's you know, smoke that refuses to get cleared up, 624 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 2: but I just think philosophically, like what kind of Hooper 625 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 2: are you in terms of what's important to you? So 626 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 2: on the Starting five show on Netflix, everybody should go 627 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 2: watch it. 628 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 1: Way better than the first season. So oh my god, 629 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 1: not even close in there too. 630 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's it's really good. So Kevin Durant said 631 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 2: that he disagrees with the old adage that defense wins 632 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 2: championships and stated that offense wins championships. So, of course 633 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 2: the issues between keV and Draymon have been well documented, 634 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 2: and the media, being the media, doing their job, they 635 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 2: bring the question to Draymond. 636 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 1: KD said, Yo, defense don't win champions have to bring. 637 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 2: Who else could be bringing to and Draymond says, quote, 638 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 2: those who don't believe defense is as valuable, as as 639 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 2: valuable as it is, they simply just don't win. I 640 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 2: don't think anyone's ever really been hell bent on caring 641 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 2: about the opinion of those that don't win, because your 642 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 2: opinion equals zero. Of Course, the reporter, obviously, because we're 643 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 2: talking about KD, he says a quote, I hear you, yes, 644 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 2: but Kevin has won. Draymond quickly of course fires back, 645 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 2: he won here and the defense here was almost like 646 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 2: a teacher in the class, like the defense here was 647 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 2: and the reporter. 648 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 1: Was like, the defense was incredible. 649 00:31:55,520 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 2: Draymond answered back, absolutely, Aside from the petty sniping that 650 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 2: these dudes have done for years, I think it is 651 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 2: telling that KD thinks that defense doesn't win championships. I 652 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 2: think that says something about him as an hooper. 653 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 3: Maybe I tried to read too deep into it. I 654 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 3: think he's trying to be different, you know what I'm saying. 655 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 1: It's trying to be you think you. 656 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 3: Trying to get a different qute out. He was trying 657 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 3: to put pulla Yeah, he's trying to put something out there. 658 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 3: I was like, it wasn't catch fire. Maybe, but I mean, 659 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 3: Draymond ain't wrong. 660 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 1: I think if you had to pick somebody to be right, 661 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 1: who's more right? 662 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 3: I'm going Draymond. I'm a defensive player. I'm going Draymond. 663 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 3: And there are nights where your offense is not going 664 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 3: to be rolling. 665 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 4: Well, I think got it came from like coming from 666 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 4: k D when he watched the finals last year. You know, 667 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 4: over the last couple of years, Indiana's been one of 668 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 4: the most explosive offensive teams in the league, leading the 669 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 4: league and scoring I think a year ago and all 670 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 4: of that, which got them to the finals, whereas Okay, 671 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 4: c was more of a defensive team than offensive. 672 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. 673 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 4: And so with the way the game is now where 674 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 4: it's even harder to play defense, I can see what 675 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 4: KD is kind of saying. But like, I think, you 676 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 4: gotta be to win it all. You gotta be equal 677 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 4: and kind of it's got to be a balance between 678 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 4: the two. Yeah, Like, I think you have to have 679 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 4: a top ten offense and the top ten defense to 680 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 4: win it. Now, I don't know what OKC was as 681 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 4: far as they rank, but I'm sure they were in 682 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 4: the top ten and probably both of those categories. 683 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, they were. They might have been a number one 684 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 1: defense in the league. 685 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 4: Last year, the Celtics was like a top three offensive 686 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 4: and defensive team. 687 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think you have to have both to win. 688 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 1: I think it's interested about what KD said. 689 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 3: They rocket times you do need both. But that's a 690 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 3: good breakdown note because in today's league it is different, 691 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 3: it is more offensive. 692 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 2: I just think what KD said is interesting because he 693 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 2: himself has been a good defender since like twenty fourteen, 694 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 2: Like he's never been a bad defender, which I just 695 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 2: think is crazy that he would say that, like like 696 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,879 Speaker 2: when like he actually has been a plus defender, if 697 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:14,840 Speaker 2: not a really damn good defender, like help side, getting boards, 698 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 2: like holding his own in isolation against guys. 699 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 3: But what would argue his best defensive years were probably 700 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 3: in Golden State. 701 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 1: For sure, and the last year in uh in OKC. 702 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 2: I think he was an excellent defense, Like especially that 703 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 2: Spur series. He was so good on defense in that series, 704 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 2: even the series that they lost to the Warriors. Like 705 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 2: I thought KD was playing incredible defense that last OKAC year. 706 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 1: But like, to me, when I look at like how 707 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:44,760 Speaker 1: things went. 708 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 2: In Brooklyn and Phoenix, I'm just like, it's offered me 709 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:53,919 Speaker 2: to not connect this attitude with what went on over there, 710 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. 711 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:59,280 Speaker 4: When you looked at those teams on Piper, you would 712 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 4: have said, this is gonna your offensive juggernaut. 713 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 1: We talk about. 714 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 4: Brooklyn with Kyrie James, James Harden and him is just 715 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 4: unfortunate that it didn't work out the way they wanted 716 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 4: to because of health reasons of course. And then it 717 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,320 Speaker 4: goes to Phoenix when you match him with Booker Bill. 718 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,400 Speaker 4: But that's why it's kind of puzzling for him to 719 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 4: say that, you know, because that Phoenix team when they 720 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 4: traded for Bill, I was like, oh, no, hold on, 721 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,280 Speaker 4: Phoenix is gonna be getting buckets offensive. 722 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,879 Speaker 6: I mean conference finals out. 723 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 4: I had him before the season started, but then once 724 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 4: it started, it was. 725 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 6: Just like they didn't have no chemistry. 726 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 1: It's almost like there's more to life. Than getting buckets. 727 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 4: And it's easier to get a defensive chemistry than an 728 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:46,799 Speaker 4: offensive like it ain't so he knows. 729 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 1: Also, you know what TU tho. 730 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,800 Speaker 2: At the same time, it's like what you have major, 731 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,799 Speaker 2: you can hang your hat on his getting buckets, Like 732 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:58,319 Speaker 2: I understand that mentality as well. 733 00:35:58,320 --> 00:35:59,360 Speaker 1: It's like, it's what I'm great. 734 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 2: I have to believe that this is you contribute to 735 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 2: winning by doing what I do. 736 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean. But just I don't know. 737 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,359 Speaker 2: As a as a as a team concept to go 738 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 2: out and express your team that defense doesn't even championships. 739 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:15,800 Speaker 3: That's why he's not coaching. 740 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,799 Speaker 1: Let's get to some fan questions. 741 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 2: I like, I like some of these, man, I like 742 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,840 Speaker 2: I like some of these because because Paul can't be 743 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:34,799 Speaker 2: political with this. One soldier asked, Baron Davis or Darren Williams. 744 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 1: You're asking me, Yeah, I'm asking you b D or 745 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:40,279 Speaker 1: Darren Williams. 746 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 6: I'm Baron Davis all day? 747 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 1: Why b D? 748 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:48,880 Speaker 4: If he didn't get hurt, would have been one of 749 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 4: the coldest point guards. He can play defense, he can shoot, 750 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,839 Speaker 4: he was athletic, he can path. He had it all 751 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:57,799 Speaker 4: Like I had a chance, you know, I have known 752 00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 4: Bed since he was like sixth grade. 753 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 6: Man, I grew up together out here. 754 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 4: Like Bed was unreal, I'm telling you, a healthy bead. 755 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,800 Speaker 4: Like he had Magic Johnson type passing. He was explosive. 756 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:11,840 Speaker 4: He was one of the first explosive point guards in 757 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 4: the league. You know, I mean you had some guys 758 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 4: before him, but like he put people on notice from 759 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:21,800 Speaker 4: the point guard position, you know what I'm saying. 760 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 6: So I gotta go bea D all day. 761 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go beat d too. But but Darren Williams 762 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,840 Speaker 3: was a problem because he was shifted as that crossed, 763 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 3: that double crossed. He was one of the best point 764 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:34,799 Speaker 3: guards in the league. I want to like he was 765 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,920 Speaker 3: ahead of Chris Paul at one point, and like he 766 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,440 Speaker 3: was on a team and I was like, yo, he. 767 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 1: Used to go crazy, notes had to head with Paul. 768 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,799 Speaker 3: He was in Utah, he was killing people and when 769 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 3: he went to Jersey they weren't good. But he was 770 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,400 Speaker 3: still getting you know, forty fifty. But like you know 771 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. But yeah, I'll give it to Bed 772 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,359 Speaker 3: because I think he had a longer stint in doing it. 773 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,919 Speaker 3: But Darren had to run himself. Like Darren Williams was 774 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 3: was nasty. 775 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, Darren was nasty and god. 776 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:01,280 Speaker 1: Yeah I probably I probably. 777 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 2: I'm probably going Darren Williams, to be honest, not just yeah, 778 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:09,400 Speaker 2: just because he was because he got forced into that 779 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 2: Jerry Sloan system. He had the sort of physicality athleticism, 780 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,160 Speaker 2: could get by people, could shoot the three, but he 781 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 2: had this kind of point guarded mentality and he guarded 782 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:22,320 Speaker 2: people and all of that stuff. 783 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 1: And not to say that Baron didn't play defense or 784 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:25,520 Speaker 1: he wasn't that. 785 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 2: I just think, you know, just as a point guard, 786 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:31,400 Speaker 2: especially when he was at his top in Utah. 787 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you. 788 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,440 Speaker 6: Think Darren did better than Bed? 789 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 2: Just floor management, just sort of running the show organization. 790 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, probably shoot it better as well. 791 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:48,440 Speaker 3: I think b D probably got. 792 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,000 Speaker 2: But Darren Williams had hobbs too. He used to dunk 793 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 2: on people. To pull those up on YouTube. 794 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:57,360 Speaker 1: He could not a BD level, not a dunk contest level. 795 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 6: Was he a scored and bea D. That's kind of close. 796 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 2: If it's just like one on one score problems, it's 797 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 2: a little close. I'm just on my old school, get 798 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,640 Speaker 2: off my long point guard type of thing with. 799 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 6: Like tonight, this is what I want you to do. 800 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:15,279 Speaker 6: Go home and YouTube bea. 801 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:19,960 Speaker 1: Dy do my homework. I'm gonna do my homework. 802 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:25,239 Speaker 3: Dirk Top five ever power forward for the twenty eleven ring. 803 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 2: Is Dirk Navisky a top five power forward ever? 804 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 3: For that two thousand? 805 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,480 Speaker 1: Who's the top power forwards ever? 806 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:37,880 Speaker 3: I mean Tim duncan ca power forward. Really it is 807 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:43,840 Speaker 3: a center bro for sure. Center Robinson there when he 808 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:45,719 Speaker 3: was there, I mean four. 809 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 2: Years of a twenty year career. Whiskey, Oh, Giannie is 810 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,880 Speaker 2: a power forward. Yeah, Dirk Giannis. 811 00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:02,560 Speaker 1: Was DRKA power forward. Yeah, I mean definitely, Yeah. 812 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:09,360 Speaker 3: He always had Hayward or somebody. 813 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,799 Speaker 6: Tim is not almost. 814 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:15,080 Speaker 2: Like Bro because I'm saying that because Tim was guarding 815 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 2: the paint his whole career, but probably the best paint 816 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:20,239 Speaker 2: freaking guard he had. 817 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,120 Speaker 3: He had a center with him all the time, whether 818 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:27,080 Speaker 3: it was mcdis or Dave Robinson, Marcus, we always had 819 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 3: another center. 820 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:33,319 Speaker 2: Top five top five So we're giving Tim duncan power forward. 821 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,160 Speaker 1: Fine, I don't know he's a KG. 822 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,239 Speaker 3: I mean guard the paint. 823 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:41,240 Speaker 2: KG played a lot of center with y'all, especially towards 824 00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 2: the end. 825 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,920 Speaker 1: But I can see KG being a power forward. Sure. 826 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:50,080 Speaker 6: This is for y'all. 827 00:40:55,560 --> 00:41:02,919 Speaker 1: No, I'm probably KG. Probably, I'm always I'm probably KG. 828 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:04,320 Speaker 1: But that's who it is is KG. 829 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:11,520 Speaker 2: I'm gonna gork, it's Jannie, it's calm alone. I guess 830 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:15,040 Speaker 2: he's had a move and stop like he yeah, you know, 831 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:19,600 Speaker 2: like he implemented something the game that forever forever live 832 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,080 Speaker 2: on and is unstoppable, Like his face is one leg FA. 833 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,200 Speaker 1: I rate Dirkicic. I do. 834 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess I'm GOKG because I just I grew 835 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:32,719 Speaker 3: up watch his passion for the game and top top 836 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 3: ship talkers and like he just he tried to take 837 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:36,880 Speaker 3: everything from you. 838 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:41,880 Speaker 2: So Dirk's top five for sure, top five question. We 839 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:45,640 Speaker 2: just discounted all of Like the seventies legends. 840 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 3: Were kind of missing out. We're kind of forgetting right. 841 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:53,239 Speaker 2: Who Okay, the lost Okay, we're just putting them to 842 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:53,720 Speaker 2: the side. 843 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:57,239 Speaker 1: I like this question from poet A. C. Not five 844 00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:57,880 Speaker 1: eighty six. 845 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,200 Speaker 2: If you were running the New Orleans is a tough question. 846 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,600 Speaker 2: What's the first thing you would do in rebuilding? First 847 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:12,440 Speaker 2: thing I would do is fire joke, that is the 848 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:13,200 Speaker 2: first thing. 849 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:15,520 Speaker 1: A couple of nights. 850 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 3: Ago saying if you're the owner, you're saying. 851 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,320 Speaker 1: Well, that's how that's who gets the rebuilding. 852 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:26,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I'm selling the team. 853 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,280 Speaker 6: For your first rebuilding damn. 854 00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:33,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's kind of bad what's happening. 855 00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:34,880 Speaker 3: They're in a very bad situation. 856 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,080 Speaker 1: The record, the lack of a lottery pick next season. 857 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:40,640 Speaker 1: We like what Fears is doing. 858 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 3: I'm selling the team. 859 00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:44,719 Speaker 1: I'm selling the team. 860 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:48,160 Speaker 2: Are you trying to find some type of value for Zion? 861 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,440 Speaker 2: Are we finally getting him out of the paint or 862 00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:53,560 Speaker 2: you have. 863 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,600 Speaker 3: To trade everybody? You have to trade Zion Trey Murphy Murray, 864 00:42:56,640 --> 00:43:00,120 Speaker 3: like you have to really start over over over that 865 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:04,400 Speaker 3: point again, I'm selling the team. Yeah, but yeah, if 866 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:05,879 Speaker 3: you're gonna start over, that's the only way you can 867 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:07,919 Speaker 3: get back to getting picks and being like okay, see, 868 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:09,920 Speaker 3: but it's gonna take another five six years just to 869 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:13,200 Speaker 3: get ten. Yeah, to get a to stay afloat, like 870 00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,239 Speaker 3: to get a team that's you can do it quick though, 871 00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:18,160 Speaker 3: because the drafts these years are getting PT ten. 872 00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:24,520 Speaker 4: We saw Philly the process and they still in the process. 873 00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,600 Speaker 3: Okay, see did it in like five six years? 874 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:27,200 Speaker 1: Yeah? 875 00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,879 Speaker 4: They got to get a franchise player though, Yeah, okay. 876 00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,960 Speaker 3: He got with the draft. If they get like a 877 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,040 Speaker 3: j they got super. 878 00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:40,600 Speaker 4: They got lucky, they got lucky processes ten years to rebuild. 879 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,440 Speaker 3: It could be bro, Spurs didn't take them ten years, 880 00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:45,040 Speaker 3: all right, So. 881 00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:49,200 Speaker 4: Look at this, when did When did the okay okay 882 00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:50,320 Speaker 4: see started rebuilding? 883 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:55,120 Speaker 3: Once KD left iterations they had CP they had that 884 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,759 Speaker 3: they had was in the playoffs. 885 00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:05,200 Speaker 2: That's not they made the little playing they played against 886 00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:06,400 Speaker 2: the Rockets or whatever. 887 00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, but like that was there was and the only 888 00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:14,080 Speaker 1: there was in the bubble. Yes, it was the bubble. 889 00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,520 Speaker 3: Four guys averaging twenty c made All stars. 890 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:17,920 Speaker 1: Was rebuild rebuilding. 891 00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:19,760 Speaker 3: I'm not considering a playoff team a rebuld. 892 00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:21,160 Speaker 1: B happened? 893 00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,799 Speaker 3: They know, they kept making up. Bill Donovan was making 894 00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:25,040 Speaker 3: playoffs multiple years with them. 895 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:28,160 Speaker 1: They traded, they traded for didn't go to them. He 896 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,120 Speaker 1: ended up being a borderline All Star right out the gate. 897 00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:33,640 Speaker 1: They didn't think that was going to be the case. 898 00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:34,399 Speaker 1: Nobody did. 899 00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,239 Speaker 3: Clippers did know they did. They didn't want to give 900 00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,120 Speaker 3: him up at first. They talked about it. Doc was 901 00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:40,640 Speaker 3: talking about it. They knew he was like that. 902 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,120 Speaker 2: Bro, But Danny, why would you have to give up 903 00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,919 Speaker 2: all of these unprotected picks if you knew shape? 904 00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:49,080 Speaker 3: Even if they went and got CP. They went't got Gallinario, 905 00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,960 Speaker 3: got short Those other guys average twenty. They had four 906 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,040 Speaker 3: guys averaging twenty. That's not a rebuilt team in the playoffs. 907 00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:59,520 Speaker 1: It's not a tank team, which I think. That's what 908 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:00,960 Speaker 1: I don't think. That's the same thing. 909 00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:05,320 Speaker 4: I think because listen, all those guys were short term 910 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:06,480 Speaker 4: except for Shay. 911 00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:07,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, so that's a rebuild. 912 00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:12,719 Speaker 4: We just getting some veterans around the figure it out. 913 00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,080 Speaker 3: I'm thinking I'm thinking tank as rebuild. That's how I'm 914 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,279 Speaker 3: putting it. Rebuilt to me is if you're a playoff team, 915 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:18,800 Speaker 3: you're not rebuilding. 916 00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:20,440 Speaker 1: Let me ask you something. Let me ask you something. 917 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:27,560 Speaker 2: So like Utah having marketing in and and having clarkson 918 00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:31,440 Speaker 2: and dragging them on moving all of their veterans that 919 00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:35,279 Speaker 2: could contribute to other teams, they're rebuilding. But they were 920 00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,239 Speaker 2: like screw it, like we're gonna keep good players on 921 00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:40,680 Speaker 2: our team. It wasn't that they wasn't rebuilding, it just 922 00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:43,560 Speaker 2: wasn't treating it like the nasty ass process sixers. 923 00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,400 Speaker 1: I think there's a kind of a difference there. 924 00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:50,000 Speaker 3: I think I think a tank team is a rebuild team. Bro, 925 00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,560 Speaker 3: There's no way you're rebuilding if you're in the playoffs 926 00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:57,799 Speaker 3: and playing your guys after after that, okay, seeing them 927 00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,040 Speaker 3: didn't make the PLAYFFS, that's when they started really tanking. And 928 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:01,520 Speaker 3: that was like five six years ago. 929 00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:03,000 Speaker 1: But that's part of the rebuild. 930 00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,239 Speaker 3: But it wasn't again. They were still good after you 931 00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,959 Speaker 3: got Georgian. Okay, they got Russ. Russe was still getting 932 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,040 Speaker 3: Buck like bro. They had Victor, a DEEPO, they had 933 00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:15,439 Speaker 3: all these they were still hooping. But yeah, after Katie left, 934 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:18,000 Speaker 3: you said after Katie left, Rust was still triple double MVP. 935 00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,960 Speaker 2: They wouldn't get the After Russ got out of there 936 00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:22,120 Speaker 2: was the rebuild. 937 00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,040 Speaker 1: They fake pretended that they could. 938 00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:25,800 Speaker 3: And they still got CP. They still made the playoffs 939 00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:26,520 Speaker 3: that year after. 940 00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,600 Speaker 1: That, still rebuilt, Still rebuild. You don't think that the 941 00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:32,000 Speaker 1: team that's winning the championship. 942 00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:34,840 Speaker 3: It's not crazy how you rebuilding in the playoffs with 943 00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:36,440 Speaker 3: like fifty wins. 944 00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:38,719 Speaker 6: Look at you didn't know was going to be. 945 00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,080 Speaker 3: That even without Shade. They still got CP and Shroeder. 946 00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,880 Speaker 3: They had team guys that Schroeder. 947 00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,040 Speaker 1: You think that's a team that's not in They had all. 948 00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:50,360 Speaker 3: The pieces, but they were no. Forty forty five plus wins. 949 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:51,280 Speaker 3: You not rebuilding. 950 00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,840 Speaker 2: Bro, they overachieved, but that doesn't mean they weren't trying 951 00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:55,480 Speaker 2: to rebuild. 952 00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:57,480 Speaker 3: If you're trying to rebuild, that means you're just like 953 00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:58,680 Speaker 3: I'm going to take. 954 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:05,799 Speaker 2: Another example, Utah right now, that year that Wemby was available, 955 00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:10,280 Speaker 2: they're in rebuild mode. They don't have no franchise pieces. 956 00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,640 Speaker 1: And none of that. But they didn't break it down 957 00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:13,320 Speaker 1: to the studs. 958 00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:15,640 Speaker 2: They didn't say, oh, we're gonna put a ship team 959 00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:17,480 Speaker 2: together so that we could go try to get we 960 00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:20,960 Speaker 2: So they were just completely like not in the wen 961 00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,719 Speaker 2: Beyama sweep steaks basically because of that. 962 00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,560 Speaker 1: But you can't tell me they wasn't rebuilding. They just 963 00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:27,239 Speaker 1: didn't do it. 964 00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:31,000 Speaker 3: That's tank they did. They definitely did. No, Bro, Utah 965 00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:32,600 Speaker 3: was in a tank mode last year, all those teams 966 00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:33,759 Speaker 3: last year. 967 00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,440 Speaker 1: I'm talking about two three years ago. 968 00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:40,919 Speaker 3: That available has been in tank mode for the last 969 00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:41,359 Speaker 3: five years. 970 00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,280 Speaker 1: I disagree, but we have to move on because they lost. 971 00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,960 Speaker 3: Who did they lose that made Utah Gordon Haywards. 972 00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:49,600 Speaker 2: No, it was it was when they got rid of 973 00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:51,160 Speaker 2: Donovan Mitchell and Rudy Gobert. 974 00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:54,000 Speaker 3: How long is Donovan in Cleveland? Like four or five 975 00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:58,879 Speaker 3: years now, sure, yeah, Nah, it's got to be four 976 00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,840 Speaker 3: five years. Bro, Rudy been in Minnesota about four. 977 00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:05,320 Speaker 1: Because because the Mother Playoffs, Donovan was on their team. 978 00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:07,160 Speaker 3: Oh that's right after the bubble. 979 00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:09,000 Speaker 1: Yes, so four years. 980 00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:10,680 Speaker 6: This is four year right now. 981 00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:12,839 Speaker 3: So Utah has been in the tank for about four 982 00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:17,319 Speaker 3: years now. Wenby was drafted three years ago. I'm just 983 00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:18,520 Speaker 3: sounds like my point. 984 00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,359 Speaker 2: I'm just telling you like there's a difference between how 985 00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,720 Speaker 2: Utah looks and how the Brooklyn Nets. 986 00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,400 Speaker 1: How Utah looked that year, how the Brooklyn. 987 00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,960 Speaker 2: Nets look right now. That's a pure tank team Utah. 988 00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:32,080 Speaker 2: That's just that's just unabashed. 989 00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:33,399 Speaker 3: I think you need to go back to that year 990 00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:34,759 Speaker 3: Utah looked like that. 991 00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:37,520 Speaker 1: No they didn't, they didn't. 992 00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:39,960 Speaker 3: I'll let you check that we're coming. We're coming back 993 00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,200 Speaker 3: David's tape. You checked that tape, Yes, yes, yes, we're 994 00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,479 Speaker 3: coming back. In the dumps for a couple of years. 995 00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:50,560 Speaker 1: Now, what do we got here? 996 00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:52,359 Speaker 6: I think? 997 00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:58,600 Speaker 3: And you're not rebuilt like you're you're trying to build rhythm. 998 00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:00,600 Speaker 3: You not rebuilt to me is like tank like you 999 00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:02,799 Speaker 3: tanking rebuilds like I'm going to the bottom to get 1000 00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:04,719 Speaker 3: the best most draft picks, the highest draft picks. 1001 00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,440 Speaker 4: That's rebuilt, Well rebuild, it could be developing in your 1002 00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:07,960 Speaker 4: young talent. 1003 00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:11,960 Speaker 3: What was that? What was building city before rebuild? That's 1004 00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:12,480 Speaker 3: more building. 1005 00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,920 Speaker 1: What was de Troy considered before this? Before they made 1006 00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:16,799 Speaker 1: the playoffs last year? 1007 00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:21,399 Speaker 2: It's like, this is a team rebuilding, right, Like they 1008 00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:22,600 Speaker 2: hadn't been proven anything. 1009 00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:24,960 Speaker 3: Again, it's still in the rebuild, but they weren't. They've 1010 00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:30,719 Speaker 3: been rebuilding for like twenty years. Brotroit was good. Yeah 1011 00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:31,680 Speaker 3: when Chauncey. 1012 00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:34,120 Speaker 1: Them left, Like, Bro, they weren't tanking. 1013 00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,080 Speaker 3: They've been building for a long time. 1014 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,759 Speaker 1: It's like, Yo, this team is in a rebuild. And 1015 00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,520 Speaker 1: then now they they played decent against the niggas, Like. 1016 00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:43,480 Speaker 3: Oh, it's hard to use Detroit is rebuilt because they've 1017 00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:45,840 Speaker 3: been out of it so long, like a San Antonio 1018 00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:47,719 Speaker 3: team that had been in the dumps for a couple 1019 00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,600 Speaker 3: of ye like you know what I'm saying, Utah, certain 1020 00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:52,680 Speaker 3: teams that okay, see you for a couple of years 1021 00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,279 Speaker 3: that actually were good at one point. Detroit hasn't been 1022 00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:58,400 Speaker 3: good to even say, oh, we rebuild like Boston, Like Okay, 1023 00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:00,720 Speaker 3: this is a down year. We're going to try to 1024 00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:02,160 Speaker 3: figure way to rebuild it. 1025 00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:06,240 Speaker 1: I just, I just I think we need to move on. 1026 00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:11,319 Speaker 2: It's a good question. This is a good conversation. I 1027 00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:15,200 Speaker 2: like this question from Celsius X. If you guys were 1028 00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:18,680 Speaker 2: didn't have NBA careers, what do you think you'd have 1029 00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:19,600 Speaker 2: been doing instead. 1030 00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:22,560 Speaker 3: I'm a big movie guy man. 1031 00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:29,440 Speaker 4: Probably uh lead security guard for Taylor Swift on. 1032 00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:35,800 Speaker 1: Right now, d it's your security license? 1033 00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,320 Speaker 6: And make good money. 1034 00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:43,160 Speaker 3: Yeah yo, he making making real good money. 1035 00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:46,960 Speaker 1: You mentioned movies. What what would you have been? 1036 00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:49,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would probably do something in the film industry, 1037 00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,799 Speaker 3: like I always thought about, like think about acting, but 1038 00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:57,440 Speaker 3: seeing how much time and how I mean today's age now, 1039 00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:58,759 Speaker 3: I don't know how much they get paid. Like some 1040 00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,719 Speaker 3: actors still have to go like get a job job 1041 00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,279 Speaker 3: because an abundance of them, Like you have to be 1042 00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:06,280 Speaker 3: a top tier actor to get paid because if you're. 1043 00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,759 Speaker 1: Not, so what you wanted to try to be an actor. 1044 00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:13,040 Speaker 3: Or being director, writer, maybe something in the film like 1045 00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:15,680 Speaker 3: you know, but definitely on. 1046 00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:17,760 Speaker 1: The screen, like doing something you want to be on TV. 1047 00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:19,480 Speaker 3: I'm cool with be behind the. 1048 00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:22,840 Speaker 1: When we do this episode. 1049 00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,120 Speaker 4: Since he put him with a picture up next to 1050 00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:26,600 Speaker 4: Melvin Greg Oh. 1051 00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, Chris, please find a picture of Melvin greg Chance. 1052 00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:37,880 Speaker 3: So you've seen power, I mean Snowfall. Yeah, okay, everybody, 1053 00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,200 Speaker 3: I've got man boy, a lot. 1054 00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:48,719 Speaker 1: Gods looking like this. 1055 00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:51,400 Speaker 3: It looks like you Christians. 1056 00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:56,560 Speaker 4: So he looked like you got a real life Twitter. 1057 00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:59,839 Speaker 1: Right, the same facial hair and the light skin. 1058 00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:02,120 Speaker 3: Dude, that's a lot of light skinned guys. 1059 00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:06,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, you got that brother in contact with each other. 1060 00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:14,160 Speaker 3: Man and me figure like related this. 1061 00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:20,360 Speaker 2: Oh my god, Okay, let's see. Oh, Danny, they wanted 1062 00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:27,520 Speaker 2: to know. Jason Tuarte wants to know. He said you 1063 00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:31,880 Speaker 2: were an avid exotic pet owner in the past. Was 1064 00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,799 Speaker 2: that your snake that they discovered in the Miami Heats 1065 00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:36,680 Speaker 2: locker room during the. 1066 00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:40,080 Speaker 3: Twenty fourteen I think he's got a fact check. I 1067 00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:41,920 Speaker 3: don't There was a snake found in the locker room, 1068 00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:44,960 Speaker 3: but it wasn't in the finals, and it wasn't against Miami. 1069 00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,799 Speaker 3: I forget when it was. But in San Antonio they 1070 00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,359 Speaker 3: got snakes there. They got rattle snakes in the San 1071 00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,000 Speaker 3: Antonio arena, just in the city. But I think there 1072 00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:56,160 Speaker 3: was one. They found one in the arena. Oh at 1073 00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:58,440 Speaker 3: one point, I forget who we're playing against. But no, 1074 00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:01,440 Speaker 3: it's not my snake. But yes, I used to own snakes. 1075 00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,400 Speaker 3: Don't have them anymore. They were just easier. Reptiles were 1076 00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:05,439 Speaker 3: easier to handle at the time. 1077 00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:07,960 Speaker 2: I want to ask you a question related to the 1078 00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:11,399 Speaker 2: San Antonio locker room and the high jinks. Will y'all 1079 00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:15,080 Speaker 2: really be turning the AC off on guys make people 1080 00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:15,680 Speaker 2: cramp up? 1081 00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:16,960 Speaker 1: Was that a thing that y'all was? 1082 00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:20,560 Speaker 3: Were you a here fan at the time? Honestly, you know, 1083 00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:22,279 Speaker 3: I didn't even know that. I didn't know the AC 1084 00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:24,440 Speaker 3: was off till end of the game. I didn't know 1085 00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:26,839 Speaker 3: what was going on. But it was hot as hell 1086 00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:28,800 Speaker 3: in there. I was, so I'm like, damn, halftime, we 1087 00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:30,440 Speaker 3: had fans of locker and what the fuck's going on? 1088 00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:32,000 Speaker 3: I'm like, end of the game, like, oh, the a 1089 00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:33,480 Speaker 3: C broke. Oh that makes a lot of sense. 1090 00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:34,480 Speaker 1: It was not in there. 1091 00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:38,040 Speaker 3: And then your college told me, oh, they turned it 1092 00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:41,040 Speaker 3: off on purpose. Bro We ain't used to those type 1093 00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:46,439 Speaker 3: of hazardous weather conditions. Like DJ college heing on first 1094 00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:48,360 Speaker 3: take or something said we did it on purpose. 1095 00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:50,799 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, so good. 1096 00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:55,600 Speaker 2: Maybe we got room for one more here, Paul, Do 1097 00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:59,879 Speaker 2: you know that you are in some people's the real 1098 00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:04,640 Speaker 2: show Tizzies Show all time. 1099 00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:08,640 Speaker 6: Okay, appreciated the real show Tizzy. 1100 00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:10,000 Speaker 1: Top five of all time. 1101 00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:15,000 Speaker 2: Big, you got some big Paul Pierce fans in the viewership, which. 1102 00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:19,319 Speaker 1: Would make sure appreciate that. Yeah, I think it's good 1103 00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:22,640 Speaker 1: on fan questions here, bro, Okay. 1104 00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:24,200 Speaker 3: You don't know if I don't, I ain't play with 1105 00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:27,480 Speaker 3: cold enough or against them enough to know. 1106 00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:29,480 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. 1107 00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:38,600 Speaker 3: Okay, twenty bro, I told you like Clippers would start 1108 00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:39,120 Speaker 3: out the gate. 1109 00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:41,600 Speaker 6: Yeah every time. 1110 00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:44,920 Speaker 3: No choirs, like they ain't no shot. They might have 1111 00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:46,000 Speaker 3: had a chance of quid play. 1112 00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:48,520 Speaker 2: All right, Let's get us out of here with this 1113 00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:54,839 Speaker 2: last one. Okay, See is undefeated, and who do we 1114 00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:57,960 Speaker 2: think right now? They're eight and. 1115 00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:00,239 Speaker 3: And this is their their schedule coming up? So who 1116 00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:03,240 Speaker 3: on the schedules and give them their first loss? Yeah, 1117 00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:07,960 Speaker 3: let's get a close up. Yeah see what we got here? Yeah, 1118 00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:12,879 Speaker 3: because so we're in November right now. Today is next. 1119 00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:17,239 Speaker 4: They got at Portland at sack at Memphis. 1120 00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:20,840 Speaker 3: Golden State at home, Lakers, Charlotte. 1121 00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:25,200 Speaker 1: Losing at Portland, Oh, losing at Portland. 1122 00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:28,759 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go Golden State, man, I think Golden State 1123 00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:31,560 Speaker 3: got a shot. If anybody if it's not gold State, 1124 00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:31,919 Speaker 3: I think. 1125 00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:33,120 Speaker 1: The Lakers have a shot. They might go. 1126 00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:35,560 Speaker 2: Oh, I think the Lakers have a shot as well, 1127 00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:37,600 Speaker 2: because it'd be the second night of a back to back. 1128 00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:40,440 Speaker 3: Again, we don't know who's gonna be for the Lakers. 1129 00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:44,960 Speaker 2: The Lakers had a great game against them at the 1130 00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:45,719 Speaker 2: end of last year. 1131 00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:47,560 Speaker 1: They had Lakers fans taking they was headed to the. 1132 00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:50,720 Speaker 2: Finals, which just tells me that they got a great 1133 00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:54,719 Speaker 2: matchup against OKC. Just the physicality they can, like kind 1134 00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:57,360 Speaker 2: of big boy then with Luca and other guys in Lebron. 1135 00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:03,759 Speaker 2: So I like that November twelfth and November eleventh. 1136 00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:05,680 Speaker 3: Back to back, that would take one of those games 1137 00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:06,359 Speaker 3: they're gonna drop. 1138 00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:09,319 Speaker 2: That would take them to twelve and oh before going 1139 00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:10,600 Speaker 2: into the Golden State game, I. 1140 00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:12,120 Speaker 3: Think they're gonna be They're gonna drop one of those 1141 00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:15,160 Speaker 3: games like that. I'm saying gold State because Golden State 1142 00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:21,040 Speaker 3: they for those games agains, especially against Denver. Yeah, they 1143 00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:24,520 Speaker 3: always get like Stephan game, Jimmy a game. They're gonna 1144 00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:25,120 Speaker 3: get up for that game. 1145 00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:27,560 Speaker 2: Paul thinks they're gonna fall for a trap game against 1146 00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:30,520 Speaker 2: Portland or November fifth, even before that. 1147 00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:34,480 Speaker 3: Oh yes, tonight, yeah, oh, but. 1148 00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:36,839 Speaker 1: Back to back. 1149 00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:46,640 Speaker 4: Okay, legs, yeah, travel, come on, you know I got it. 1150 00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:49,120 Speaker 3: Prospects, y'all know who to pick, who to follow ship? 1151 00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:54,480 Speaker 2: You paid getting y'all. Right, So that's our show for today. 1152 00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:57,720 Speaker 2: Make sure you guys are subscribed on YouTube or wherever 1153 00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:01,120 Speaker 2: you're getting this. If you're on Apple podcast or Spotify, 1154 00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:04,560 Speaker 2: leave a comment for us. 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