WEBVTT - Dr. Drew 0:00:01.000 --> 0:00:06.000 This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast. 0:00:08.360 --> 0:00:10.719 Chris Harrison coming to you from the home office in Austin, 0:00:10.800 --> 0:00:13.800 Texas today. This interview is brought to you by the 0:00:13.840 --> 0:00:16.440 Wellness Company, which we are going to talk about here 0:00:16.440 --> 0:00:19.319 in just a little bit. A great endeavor that doctor 0:00:19.400 --> 0:00:23.840 Drew is involved with. Doctor Drew Pinsk is a legend 0:00:24.239 --> 0:00:29.280 board certified physician internal and addiction medicine. Obviously, he's a 0:00:29.280 --> 0:00:34.120 popular television host Loveline. He's been around for decades. I 0:00:34.200 --> 0:00:36.920 met him in the late nineties when I first came 0:00:36.960 --> 0:00:40.280 to LA and started hosting The Bachelor and was on Loveline. 0:00:40.800 --> 0:00:44.839 I have so much to doctor Drew about his connection 0:00:44.920 --> 0:00:47.320 to The Bachelor. A question I've never asked him before 0:00:47.760 --> 0:00:50.040 and joining me now is doctor Drew. It's good to 0:00:50.040 --> 0:00:50.640 see you again. 0:00:51.320 --> 0:00:53.199 You as well. You're looking well, Everything cool with you? 0:00:53.320 --> 0:00:57.639 Where are you Austin, Texas? Like a few of our 0:00:57.680 --> 0:01:01.320 friends headed east No. 0:01:01.480 --> 0:01:04.840 I was going down there every six weeks to do 0:01:05.319 --> 0:01:09.920 a weekly streaming or YouTube podcast for your mom's house, 0:01:10.400 --> 0:01:13.360 and so I got very familiar. I did that for 0:01:13.400 --> 0:01:15.039 like three years. I got very familiar with us. 0:01:15.120 --> 0:01:17.000 It's a great Austin's a great, great town. We've been 0:01:17.000 --> 0:01:18.920 here for a couple of years now and I absolutely 0:01:18.959 --> 0:01:21.800 love it and it has It's been a healthy lifestyle 0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:23.200 down here. You just have to try and stay away 0:01:23.200 --> 0:01:25.959 from the kso and the Fijiitas every day. But other 0:01:26.000 --> 0:01:28.600 than that, the barbecue. The barbecue will do it to you. 0:01:29.640 --> 0:01:31.800 I'm so by the way, there's so much I want 0:01:31.840 --> 0:01:32.560 to talk to you about. 0:01:32.800 --> 0:01:33.000 Good. 0:01:33.600 --> 0:01:35.400 I realized that I was kind of prepping for this. 0:01:35.480 --> 0:01:39.120 I was thinking, was like, man, I've known doctor Drew 0:01:39.240 --> 0:01:42.720 for two decades. I don't know if you remember the 0:01:42.720 --> 0:01:46.800 first time we met was I'm assuming you were on 0:01:46.840 --> 0:01:49.160 the world famous k Rock with Corolla back in the 0:01:49.200 --> 0:01:51.800 day and we were doing love Line or you were 0:01:51.840 --> 0:01:54.080 doing love Line. I would come in. That's right when 0:01:54.080 --> 0:01:55.040 The Bachelor started. 0:01:55.840 --> 0:02:00.160 Yep, And I remember that. That was the mid to 0:02:00.240 --> 0:02:03.320 late nineties and we were actually I think we were 0:02:03.320 --> 0:02:05.960 in Culver City at that time, but k ROK was 0:02:06.000 --> 0:02:09.760 our local affiliate. Yeah, there's that, and Loveline was on 0:02:09.919 --> 0:02:13.200 MTV back in those days also, if you remember, Yeah, 0:02:13.240 --> 0:02:15.800 and Corol and I still do a podcast. Once you 0:02:15.800 --> 0:02:17.799 and I finished our conversation, I got to rush out 0:02:17.800 --> 0:02:19.079 to his studio and talk to him. 0:02:19.360 --> 0:02:21.480 You're a glutton for punishment. Still, I know, I know 0:02:21.560 --> 0:02:24.760 it's crazy, but after twenty years of knowing you, there's 0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:27.360 there's a question that I have never asked you. And 0:02:27.400 --> 0:02:30.880 I'm curious about this because you may not have even known. 0:02:31.800 --> 0:02:35.240 Did you know or were you up for the role 0:02:35.680 --> 0:02:36.919 of host of the Bachelor? 0:02:37.760 --> 0:02:40.600 No one, not that I recall. Is that is that 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:41.640 something that you heard? 0:02:42.120 --> 0:02:45.000 I because this is when I got into it. This 0:02:45.040 --> 0:02:47.480 is would have been like May of ninety nine, early 0:02:47.520 --> 0:02:49.880 two thousand when I when I got on you know 0:02:49.919 --> 0:02:53.080 the list. There was always a list, and when I 0:02:53.120 --> 0:02:56.480 got down to the final four, I said, you know 0:02:56.720 --> 0:02:58.720 who else is on this list? They named a couple 0:02:58.720 --> 0:03:01.440 of guys and they said doctor Drew. And at this 0:03:01.520 --> 0:03:03.760 point I had never met you. I only knew of 0:03:03.800 --> 0:03:07.760 you and obviously Love Line and all that, and I thought, hysterical, 0:03:07.919 --> 0:03:09.320 I said, you know what, that makes a hell of 0:03:09.360 --> 0:03:11.600 a lot of sense. He's hosting love Line, So it 0:03:11.680 --> 0:03:14.040 makes sense of why you were on in that spectrum 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:16.840 of why you would clearly they win a completely different 0:03:16.880 --> 0:03:19.920 direction of the type of post of not getting a 0:03:19.960 --> 0:03:24.560 doctor and someone who had any really skill set but 0:03:25.520 --> 0:03:28.360 they they told me back then that you were a 0:03:28.400 --> 0:03:29.440 part of the final four. 0:03:29.840 --> 0:03:32.440 Isn't that something? I didn't thank you for telling me that. 0:03:32.520 --> 0:03:37.880 I don't think I knew it, But I remember when 0:03:37.920 --> 0:03:41.080 you came on being sort of confused by the whole 0:03:41.280 --> 0:03:44.280 notion of this is what it was and how this worked? 0:03:45.040 --> 0:03:45.800 Oh totally. 0:03:45.880 --> 0:03:47.840 There was a lot of stuff in my head around 0:03:47.920 --> 0:03:50.880 reality television. I'm going to do what? And then how 0:03:50.920 --> 0:03:53.920 does that work? So I'm not sure if I'd been 0:03:54.040 --> 0:03:57.000 asked a host, if I would have understood what I 0:03:57.080 --> 0:03:58.920 was being asked to do, I'm sure I wouldn't know. 0:03:58.960 --> 0:03:59.440 I'm certain I. 0:03:59.400 --> 0:04:02.800 Would I got I'm so thankful. I had that dumb 0:04:02.800 --> 0:04:04.360 look on my face, as we all did in the 0:04:04.360 --> 0:04:06.960 early two thousands when we were inventing reality TV. But 0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:10.920 I happened to run into Jeff Probs at of All 0:04:11.000 --> 0:04:15.040 Things Celebrity Dodgeball and he had a survivor had been 0:04:15.040 --> 0:04:16.760 on for like six months, and I met him and 0:04:16.800 --> 0:04:18.320 I just walked up and I said, Hey, you know, 0:04:18.360 --> 0:04:21.960 my name's Chris Harrison. I'm hosting this new show. This 0:04:22.040 --> 0:04:24.839 is the basic outline of it. Can you give me 0:04:25.000 --> 0:04:27.800 any sort of insight as to what the hell this is? 0:04:28.279 --> 0:04:29.840 And he said, you know, all I can tell you 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:32.800 is you will. It's not like, you know, I was 0:04:32.839 --> 0:04:36.200 a newscaster, sportscaster, I'd done all that stuff sports radio, 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:38.200 but this was a whole different animal. And he kind 0:04:38.240 --> 0:04:41.000 of explained to me, you'll find your sea legs, and 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:43.039 no show is going to be the same, Like what 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:46.359 I'm doing on Survivor is kind of game show host story, 0:04:46.440 --> 0:04:48.760 Yours is going to be totally different. So that talk 0:04:48.839 --> 0:04:52.920 actually really kind of helped me figure my way and 0:04:52.960 --> 0:04:54.919 start my way on The Bachelor, which I kind of, 0:04:54.920 --> 0:04:56.400 you know, made my own after twenty. 0:04:56.240 --> 0:04:59.200 Years, which is interesting. And Jeff is such a great guy, 0:04:59.320 --> 0:05:02.080 I mean, a good guy, truly a good guy, and 0:05:02.160 --> 0:05:04.600 so I'm not surprised he gave you something meaningful. The 0:05:05.920 --> 0:05:10.320 what I'm curious from your standpoint, what how you perceive 0:05:10.520 --> 0:05:13.760 reality television? I did you know I was. I've been 0:05:13.800 --> 0:05:17.240 involved with it too, in many different ways. It's always 0:05:17.400 --> 0:05:20.520 kind of confusing to me. It feels like it's many 0:05:20.600 --> 0:05:22.960 different things. Like Jeff said, it's hard to call it 0:05:23.000 --> 0:05:25.840 one thing. But what as it was evolving, what did 0:05:25.880 --> 0:05:28.440 you imagine you were doing? Did how did that affect you. 0:05:28.440 --> 0:05:30.280 You know what I mean, Yeah, no, and that and 0:05:30.360 --> 0:05:31.800 you you kind of hit the nail on the head. 0:05:31.800 --> 0:05:33.800 It's many different things. And I always tell people when 0:05:33.800 --> 0:05:35.960 I speak at schools or whatever, I say, you have 0:05:36.040 --> 0:05:37.760 to think of a spectrum. You know, this is not 0:05:37.880 --> 0:05:40.640 black and white. It's not reality TV or not. There 0:05:40.720 --> 0:05:43.120 is this huge spectrum that is reality TV. And there 0:05:43.160 --> 0:05:46.080 are the the game shows where like Jeff Probes and 0:05:46.120 --> 0:05:49.560 Survivor are Dancing with the Stars. There's very heavy standards 0:05:49.600 --> 0:05:53.720 and practices. There are lawyers because there's money involved, and 0:05:53.800 --> 0:05:58.279 so that's that's a different animal into itself. Then there's 0:05:58.480 --> 0:06:00.920 you know some shows I'm not going to name anybody, 0:06:00.960 --> 0:06:05.839 but they're one hundred percent scripted. You know, they you 0:06:05.880 --> 0:06:08.280 set up the scene, they know what they're going to 0:06:08.360 --> 0:06:12.120 talk about. They you know these people that a lot 0:06:12.120 --> 0:06:15.760 of it's the bio you know, the type lifestyle shows 0:06:15.760 --> 0:06:19.120 where they're following these people around. Nobody's that interesting. Let's 0:06:19.160 --> 0:06:22.080 be honest, even the Kardashians in and of themselves their 0:06:22.120 --> 0:06:24.400 daily lives, they're not that interesting. You have to create, 0:06:24.440 --> 0:06:27.200 you have to produce. And then there's a show like 0:06:27.200 --> 0:06:29.320 The Bachelor, which I always said fell in the middle, 0:06:29.839 --> 0:06:33.559 because what we did so well was produce that fish 0:06:33.600 --> 0:06:37.440 bowl environment that you had to live within. So it 0:06:37.920 --> 0:06:40.840 wasn't a surprise that Doctor Drew and Adam Carolla, who 0:06:40.920 --> 0:06:44.120 hated each other, were on the same date. Now, what 0:06:44.320 --> 0:06:49.320 happened within that date that was reality TV. We didn't 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:51.400 tell you what to do. But there's a reason that 0:06:51.440 --> 0:06:53.400 you guys both like the same girl and hated each 0:06:53.440 --> 0:06:54.279 other and you're together. 0:06:54.600 --> 0:06:58.000 Yeah. And there's even another category which I participated in, 0:06:58.040 --> 0:07:01.440 which they generally call sort of therapeutic category, which is 0:07:01.480 --> 0:07:03.800 you you come in and just let the cameras roll 0:07:04.200 --> 0:07:07.680 and you just you and it's it still has the 0:07:07.720 --> 0:07:10.120 oddity of and this I'm I want to ask you 0:07:10.160 --> 0:07:12.720 about this. This is one of the odd things about Well, 0:07:12.880 --> 0:07:15.120 it's it's an odd experience because you're having these very 0:07:15.120 --> 0:07:19.119 intimate encounters and there is a camera guy, a cable guy, 0:07:19.360 --> 0:07:22.320 a sound guy over here, the same thing behind you. 0:07:22.400 --> 0:07:24.600 As soon as there's at least six people, maybe nine 0:07:24.680 --> 0:07:27.440 in the room with you. A odd how quickly you 0:07:27.440 --> 0:07:30.160 forget they're there. That's so odd to me. And that's 0:07:30.200 --> 0:07:33.480 number one, and then number two, there's something about the 0:07:33.600 --> 0:07:37.000 environment of reality shows that makes everything intensified. Did you 0:07:37.040 --> 0:07:38.440 experience that? Oh? No. 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:42.560 I always said TV and reality shows they don't change you. 0:07:43.360 --> 0:07:47.240 I think they just exponentially magnify who you are or 0:07:47.280 --> 0:07:47.880 what you are. 0:07:48.000 --> 0:07:50.480 But I don't know why. I couldn't. I couldn't explain why. 0:07:50.960 --> 0:07:53.520 I just always aware of it. Maybe it's because everybody's 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:56.239 sort of the lights or the cameras. Something about it 0:07:56.280 --> 0:07:57.280 gets everybody going. 0:07:57.600 --> 0:07:59.440 I think it's what you see. So, you know, we 0:07:59.480 --> 0:08:02.520 always had the this. I always said, Look, if you're 0:08:02.560 --> 0:08:05.560 a good guy, you know, like doctor Drew, you'll come 0:08:05.600 --> 0:08:07.520 off like the greatest guy in the world. If you're 0:08:07.640 --> 0:08:10.640 kind of a snarky pain in the butt, you really 0:08:10.680 --> 0:08:14.280 come off like a villain. It's really magnified magnificently. 0:08:14.720 --> 0:08:14.880 You know. 0:08:14.920 --> 0:08:16.520 I always say, you know, these people on the show, 0:08:16.520 --> 0:08:19.240 they're not that bad, you know, the quote unquote villains. 0:08:19.520 --> 0:08:23.400 But the other thing is TV really magnifies things, for example, religion. 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:27.000 Religion's a very touchy subject. And I was told and 0:08:27.040 --> 0:08:30.000 it's kind of true, if you say the word Jesus Christ, 0:08:31.120 --> 0:08:33.959 that really has a powerful punch. And if you say 0:08:34.080 --> 0:08:37.520 Jesus Christ once in a conversation, it's like you've said 0:08:37.520 --> 0:08:41.240 it twenty times. Oh yeah, And so there's just ways 0:08:41.280 --> 0:08:45.160 that TV magnifies things because it has like viceral reaction. 0:08:45.240 --> 0:08:48.880 And I remembered that specifically about religion when we would 0:08:48.880 --> 0:08:50.360 cover it on the show, and it's like, well, we 0:08:50.400 --> 0:08:51.800 don't you know, they don't need to say it so 0:08:51.880 --> 0:08:53.720 much because once they say it once, it just has 0:08:53.760 --> 0:08:56.679 that impact. And I found that fascinating. And again you 0:08:56.720 --> 0:08:58.920 would have to dive into the psychology of it, which 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:01.280 is why I love TV so much. Yeah, what is 0:09:01.320 --> 0:09:03.760 that psychology? And is that when we hear certain things 0:09:03.880 --> 0:09:07.440 or see certain things, it really is magnified in our minds. 0:09:08.000 --> 0:09:11.360 I don't know that anybody it's really and it's very 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:14.400 specific to television. Obviously, there are certain things that pack 0:09:14.440 --> 0:09:16.640 a punch in the human psyche, and religion, of course, 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:19.280 is one of these things that is deeply meaningful in 0:09:19.360 --> 0:09:24.559 various ways for people. And you know, I've over the 0:09:24.679 --> 0:09:26.880 years talked to people about television and they will say 0:09:26.960 --> 0:09:30.199 things like, well, you're you're going into people's living rooms 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:33.680 and bedrooms and you're there with them. It's something more 0:09:33.760 --> 0:09:37.120 than that. I don't it's no one's ever really studied 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:40.120 I studied the kinds of people that go into these shows. 0:09:40.160 --> 0:09:41.720 I get that all documented. 0:09:41.960 --> 0:09:44.600 I think we have this voyeuristic you know, I know 0:09:44.640 --> 0:09:48.280 the Bachelor is it's we all want to judge. You know, 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:50.200 you look at society, you look at social media and 0:09:50.200 --> 0:09:52.320 why it's so popular. We want to flip through and 0:09:52.360 --> 0:09:55.520 just judge everybody's pictures and lives and yeah, cancel them 0:09:55.559 --> 0:09:57.120 or not or put them in the box. That makes 0:09:57.160 --> 0:09:59.600 us feel good about ourselves. And I think reality TV 0:09:59.720 --> 0:10:04.520 was that first initial kind of social you know, societal 0:10:04.760 --> 0:10:07.199 kind of idea where we can sit on our couch 0:10:07.240 --> 0:10:10.960 with our pint of chunky monkey and judge, and we 0:10:11.080 --> 0:10:14.120 love that voyeuristic thing. It makes us feel better about 0:10:14.120 --> 0:10:17.280 ourselves maybe or it also makes us envious. It makes 0:10:17.320 --> 0:10:21.560 us feel all those emotions. It's very It really is interesting. 0:10:21.600 --> 0:10:24.800 How then you see social media now and how now 0:10:24.880 --> 0:10:27.440 kind of reality TV has struggled a little bit because 0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:29.440 it's not as impactful as social media. 0:10:29.320 --> 0:10:31.960 Is, right, that's exactly right. It is all kind of 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:36.040 and look when when humans watch plays and all the 0:10:36.080 --> 0:10:39.600 way back to Greek tragedy, right, these aren't healthy people 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:44.000 acting healthy. It's always sick people being sick. Yeah, and 0:10:44.120 --> 0:10:47.439 so and and reality does a and I don't mean 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:51.240 that pejoratively. I mean, you know, it's just that it 0:10:51.400 --> 0:10:53.959 you know, it's healthy people. What's the what did tools do? 0:10:54.120 --> 0:10:56.640 I say, you know, healthy families are all healthy in 0:10:56.679 --> 0:11:00.160 the same way, but dysfunctional families are all dysfunk on 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:03.720 their own unique way. And it's those stories that get us. Yeah. 0:11:03.800 --> 0:11:06.840 I am not been a fan of rally television until 0:11:06.880 --> 0:11:10.520 the pandemic and then I got wrapped into ninety Day 0:11:10.600 --> 0:11:12.600 Fiance and my. 0:11:12.559 --> 0:11:15.080 Wife loves that. You did Special Forces. 0:11:15.480 --> 0:11:17.599 I did Special Forces and that was that was a 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:19.160 great experience. 0:11:18.840 --> 0:11:21.600 They asked me to do it. I'm really curious, You're 0:11:21.640 --> 0:11:24.240 really curious about your experience on it. 0:11:24.360 --> 0:11:26.920 That's another show where they just let the cameras roll. 0:11:27.400 --> 0:11:29.960 You don't see producers, you don't even see cameras ninety 0:11:30.000 --> 0:11:32.440 percent of the time. They just they just put you 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:36.600 in there and that's enough. Shit will go down. Trust me. 0:11:37.000 --> 0:11:38.960 I would like to think of myself as athletic and 0:11:38.960 --> 0:11:41.400 can handle that. But I'm like, yeah, okay, doctor Drew 0:11:41.400 --> 0:11:46.199 went down with you know, heat, exhaustion and dehydrations. I'm like, yeah, 0:11:46.200 --> 0:11:47.560 I'm like, I don't know if I want my ass 0:11:47.640 --> 0:11:48.200 kick that much. 0:11:48.360 --> 0:11:50.120 So how do you mind? If I ask gold you 0:11:50.160 --> 0:11:53.880 are fifty two, Yeah, you're you're They shouldn't have people 0:11:53.880 --> 0:11:56.480 in their sixties in there. That's what I've decided because 0:11:56.840 --> 0:11:59.480 your relationship with the environment is quite different. Because I 0:11:59.679 --> 0:12:02.360 I really was ready for it, and it was not 0:12:02.640 --> 0:12:05.280 The physical part did not bother me at all. I 0:12:05.280 --> 0:12:07.680 mean a little bit. Obviously it's rough, but but that 0:12:07.800 --> 0:12:10.120 was an issue. It was the environment that just took 0:12:10.160 --> 0:12:12.080 it tole on me and that was it and I 0:12:12.120 --> 0:12:14.959 was out. I was I was confused. I can't always 0:12:14.960 --> 0:12:16.599 tell people. I want to create a T shirt that 0:12:16.640 --> 0:12:19.280 says Jamie Lynn Spears saved my life because she's the 0:12:19.280 --> 0:12:22.080 one that when I when I got in cephalopathic, I 0:12:22.120 --> 0:12:23.439 was kind of out of my mind. I didn't know 0:12:23.440 --> 0:12:25.360 where I was. She grabbed me, she goes, you don't 0:12:25.400 --> 0:12:27.439 look right, come with me, and dragged me into the 0:12:27.480 --> 0:12:28.160 medical office. 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:31.760 Wow, Jamielyn Spears saves DOOC. That's the headline. Saves doctor Drew. 0:12:31.840 --> 0:12:32.719 She did. She did. 0:12:44.720 --> 0:12:48.559 Doctor Fauci testified in front of the House Subcommittee. 0:12:48.880 --> 0:12:49.400 Yeah. 0:12:49.480 --> 0:12:51.080 I have to get her because I know I've I've 0:12:51.080 --> 0:12:55.480 listened to so many interviews from you, what was your take. 0:12:55.760 --> 0:12:57.679 So it's a little complicated, so let me try to 0:12:57.760 --> 0:13:01.120 lay it out. Yeah. It made me reflect on the 0:13:01.120 --> 0:13:04.880 fact that back in the AIDS epidemic, I relied on 0:13:04.880 --> 0:13:08.160 doctor Fauci and the CDC so much, and they were wonderful. 0:13:08.200 --> 0:13:11.360 They were guides, they were led us through it, helped us, 0:13:11.400 --> 0:13:14.480 advised us. They did not tell us what to do. 0:13:14.920 --> 0:13:20.160 They were advisory, as the CDC has always been. And 0:13:20.280 --> 0:13:23.040 so when this pandemic hit, one of the things you 0:13:23.080 --> 0:13:25.240 will not see in the various videos of me telling 0:13:25.280 --> 0:13:27.760 people to calm down at the end of every one, 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:30.560 I would say, just listen to Fauci, listen to the CDC. 0:13:31.480 --> 0:13:33.960 And that was actually the only thing I got wrong. 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:37.240 They turned out they went sideways in a weird way 0:13:37.400 --> 0:13:41.080 that I was just astonished. I couldn't believe it. And 0:13:42.200 --> 0:13:45.280 some of the things he was saying yesterday were sort 0:13:45.320 --> 0:13:49.360 of disturbing in their lack of insight into the impact 0:13:49.440 --> 0:13:53.320 he had. That kind of bothered me, particularly when he 0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:56.520 was asked about the lab leek hypothesis. I thought about 0:13:56.559 --> 0:13:59.200 all the people that were crushed under his direction for 0:13:59.280 --> 0:14:03.480 even entertaining the idea, and his words, specifically that it 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:07.000 was just another shiny object. He expected it to go away. Now, 0:14:07.440 --> 0:14:09.360 the reality is he said he was open minded during 0:14:09.360 --> 0:14:12.920 the whole thing. He was. I've seen documentation of how 0:14:12.960 --> 0:14:15.800 he helped to try to come to an understanding where 0:14:15.840 --> 0:14:18.080 it came from. He was open mind, that is true, 0:14:18.440 --> 0:14:21.960 but he also said things that really affected the practice 0:14:21.960 --> 0:14:24.720 of medicine and other people. So that bothered me. But 0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:28.000 the part that bothered me even more was that there 0:14:28.000 --> 0:14:30.560 were no good questions. The only good question was that 0:14:30.880 --> 0:14:36.480 er doctor who laid out his story. But I came 0:14:36.520 --> 0:14:41.120 away thinking, oh no, this is probably because all these 0:14:41.120 --> 0:14:46.720 guys are encumbered with contributions from research organizations and pharma organs, 0:14:46.920 --> 0:14:50.040 so they can't ask the real questions. And that was 0:14:50.120 --> 0:14:53.680 the most troubling part for me. We really need to 0:14:54.360 --> 0:14:57.040 understand what happened. I am not in favor of it 0:14:57.160 --> 0:15:00.760 being a criminal of all this you know, Nuremberg talk, 0:15:01.000 --> 0:15:03.280 because then we'll never find anything out. People will just 0:15:03.480 --> 0:15:06.560 go into their camps and hide, and they'll defend themselves 0:15:06.560 --> 0:15:09.160 to the death because they should. I want to know 0:15:09.200 --> 0:15:10.720 what happened. I want to know what we got to 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:13.840 do to prevent this from happening again. And that's all 0:15:13.840 --> 0:15:14.480 that really. 0:15:14.240 --> 0:15:17.760 Matters, and any which medically because you think of medicine 0:15:17.800 --> 0:15:21.040 and doctors and scientists. And when Fauci was like, I 0:15:21.080 --> 0:15:22.680 am science, I represent. 0:15:22.360 --> 0:15:23.320 Science, it's not good. 0:15:23.760 --> 0:15:26.840 And then he will literally say in the next breath, 0:15:27.000 --> 0:15:31.720 I don't know where social distancing came from. It just appeared. 0:15:32.160 --> 0:15:35.440 And what a silly thing to say, you know where 0:15:35.440 --> 0:15:38.400 it came from, obviously, I So I made. 0:15:38.280 --> 0:15:40.560 It my business. I do a show, a streaming show 0:15:40.640 --> 0:15:43.520 on Tuesday Wednesday Thursday at three o'clock on Mumble and 0:15:43.560 --> 0:15:47.520 other YouTube called Ask Doctor Drew, and early on I 0:15:47.560 --> 0:15:50.160 started interviewing people who had been canceled because they all 0:15:50.200 --> 0:15:53.320 were like consummate professionals people. I admired that why are 0:15:53.360 --> 0:15:56.760 they canceling those guys? Right? They must got to understand 0:15:56.760 --> 0:15:59.520 what happened there. In every single one of them, I 0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:03.680 learned it least one profound insight and one a guy 0:16:03.760 --> 0:16:07.560 named Paul Alexander was there when the six foot distancing 0:16:07.600 --> 0:16:10.960 thing came in, and he objected to it and questioned 0:16:11.000 --> 0:16:13.440 it and tried to understand. Took talk to the CDC 0:16:13.600 --> 0:16:17.920 leaders and his input was they felt they they knew 0:16:18.040 --> 0:16:20.600 it was probably thirty to sixty feet that they should 0:16:20.600 --> 0:16:25.080 be maintaining and they needed to do something. Now, needing 0:16:25.120 --> 0:16:27.800 to do something, in quotes, is the most dangerous thing 0:16:27.840 --> 0:16:30.440 you can ever hear from medical provider. When my residence, 0:16:30.440 --> 0:16:32.520 when I was training, residents would say, when I asked 0:16:32.560 --> 0:16:34.280 them to defend a choice they made and they said 0:16:34.320 --> 0:16:36.600 I needed to do something, I would destroy them. That 0:16:36.720 --> 0:16:39.480 is how you harm patients, That's how you do it. 0:16:39.520 --> 0:16:43.360 So needing to do something is an egregious statement. And 0:16:43.520 --> 0:16:47.040 B he also told me this was really interesting. He 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:51.040 only recently told me this. That the middle level management 0:16:51.120 --> 0:16:56.120 at the CDC, the bureaucrats, the lifelong bureaucrats, decided that 0:16:56.200 --> 0:16:58.560 they were going to make sure this happened, and the 0:16:58.680 --> 0:17:02.080 leadership be damned, and they were the ones that forced it. 0:17:02.200 --> 0:17:05.520 And the leadership of the CDC could not handle the 0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:08.680 middle and lower management who was demanding that they do 0:17:08.760 --> 0:17:12.000 this based on no science. There was no science, There 0:17:12.080 --> 0:17:14.600 never will be science. There is no such term as 0:17:14.600 --> 0:17:18.560 social distancing. They sort of added it to lockdown language. 0:17:19.240 --> 0:17:22.439 Six feet was invented out of thin air, and it 0:17:22.560 --> 0:17:26.639 probably did well. It certainly did nothing except disrupt Again, 0:17:26.920 --> 0:17:28.639 think about it, what you had to stand in the 0:17:28.680 --> 0:17:30.960 corners of elevators, like, what is that going to do? 0:17:31.320 --> 0:17:35.159 It has left such a scar on a generation and 0:17:35.200 --> 0:17:38.280 so oh my god, and predictably and you look at 0:17:38.359 --> 0:17:40.120 you look at what happened to our kids, and how 0:17:40.160 --> 0:17:42.520 this it shut down businesses, it shut down school. So 0:17:42.560 --> 0:17:46.639 it's like we kind of I'm not saying, I'm not 0:17:46.640 --> 0:17:48.959 saying he laughed it off, but I agree. 0:17:49.000 --> 0:17:50.320 What really I. 0:17:50.240 --> 0:17:53.520 Felt was missing with him was the gravity of his 0:17:53.680 --> 0:17:56.200 decision making. And I would love And again, I don't 0:17:56.200 --> 0:17:57.680 want to see him strung up. I don't want to 0:17:57.680 --> 0:18:00.480 see him out jail. No, but I would love for him. 0:18:00.600 --> 0:18:03.760 And I know we'll never get this, but just say, hey, god, 0:18:03.840 --> 0:18:07.840 we made some mistakes. It was such a traumatic, chaotic time. Yes, 0:18:07.920 --> 0:18:10.120 we thought this was happening, but man, did we make 0:18:10.160 --> 0:18:13.400 some mistakes. We got to learn from this. Like, that's 0:18:13.440 --> 0:18:15.720 what I want my doctors and my scientists to say, 0:18:15.840 --> 0:18:16.639 one hundred percent. 0:18:16.720 --> 0:18:19.199 And what keeps me up at night is that they 0:18:19.240 --> 0:18:21.960 were able to do this to us and we haven't 0:18:21.960 --> 0:18:24.119 put anything in place to prevent it from happening again. 0:18:24.200 --> 0:18:26.439 Yeah, that's not what I want My doctor, especially my 0:18:26.560 --> 0:18:29.560 lead doctor and scientists who's you know, the face of 0:18:29.600 --> 0:18:32.199 our country in the face of medicine. That part, to 0:18:32.240 --> 0:18:32.920 me is horrifying. 0:18:33.040 --> 0:18:36.440 That was never his job. He was a research grant organizer, 0:18:36.480 --> 0:18:39.159 he was he was a advisor. He was worked in 0:18:39.280 --> 0:18:43.040 conjunction with the CDC who made recommendations to us. The 0:18:43.160 --> 0:18:46.600 fact that the state governments took that is thus saith 0:18:46.640 --> 0:18:49.760 the Lord. That's the disgusting part. That's where things went 0:18:49.800 --> 0:18:52.399 off the rail. And the fact that they kept things closed. 0:18:52.440 --> 0:18:54.919 I kept saying early on that we were sacrificing eight 0:18:55.000 --> 0:18:58.040 to fifteen year old just sacrificing them and two years 0:18:58.080 --> 0:19:02.560 of school closure in this county ridiculous. I want to transition, 0:19:02.600 --> 0:19:04.359 if you don't mind, over to the Wellness Company, because 0:19:04.400 --> 0:19:07.440 police is also a response to this. You know doctor 0:19:07.520 --> 0:19:10.080 Kelly Victory, who's on our medical board also, and she's 0:19:10.119 --> 0:19:12.199 been a friend of mine for quite some time. She 0:19:12.280 --> 0:19:15.439 said something the other day that really rung true for me. 0:19:15.560 --> 0:19:19.040 She goes, you know, we are helping people get access 0:19:19.119 --> 0:19:21.639 to these emergency kids and travel kids that fulled with 0:19:21.680 --> 0:19:24.080 antibiotics and medication. I mean things I give to my 0:19:24.119 --> 0:19:26.720 patients when they travel, for instance, or I have on 0:19:26.840 --> 0:19:29.439 hand here for my family and she said, you know, 0:19:29.560 --> 0:19:33.439 five years ago the idea of giving people access to 0:19:33.480 --> 0:19:35.840 this the way we're doing it with board, with a 0:19:35.880 --> 0:19:39.399 manual and with telehealth support and backup. She's I'm not 0:19:39.400 --> 0:19:41.919 sure I would have signed up. I might even have 0:19:41.920 --> 0:19:44.480 thought it was crazy to do this. She goes, but now, 0:19:45.080 --> 0:19:47.800 given what they've done, is crazy not to do this. 0:19:48.119 --> 0:19:50.919